No Jumper - The OMB Peezy Interview

Episode Date: June 5, 2021

OMB Peezy gets real with Adam about the stumbling blocks in his life, how he overcame them, not using beef to sell music, only using props in videos moving forward, relationship with E40 and more! https://www.instagram.com/omb_peezy/ https://twitter.com/omb_peezy ----- CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5tesvmDS8h50LkjnSAWMOs?si=j6sJD6DkR4mk5NZZWnlK7g FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/nojumper iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/no-jumper/id1001659715?mt=2 Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFICIAL http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world. And today, we got a rapper. I'm a very big fan of OMB Peasy is in the building. How you feeling my guy? I'm feeling good. I ain't going to lie. I'm feeling good. I'm living life, though.

Yeah? A lot of people expect you to be moving around stressed out. I'm glad to see that's not the case. Hell no. I'm type of a nigga that don't let nothing stress me out. I feel. I'm a smile through anything, you feel. Right.

That's an important part of being a rapper. You got to just have shit hanging over your head and you just keep on going, right? Yeah. type shit. And then, like, if you let shit fuck you up, like, and then you just go around, and then you, like, go through that every day, like, feeling down and thinking negative and shit, like, more negative shit going to come, you feel. That's one thing I get from a lot of the rappers that I'm around is I will see a rapper

with the craziest shit hanging over the head, or it'll be all in the news that he did this, this, and this, and they're just out here just still having a good time. And that's very motivational to me because I feel like if, if I'm a lot of, I had a shoplifting case hanging over my head. I'd be out here sweating and twitching and nervous as fuck. I mean, but that doesn't do you any favors, right? Yeah, it ain't going to do you no better. Like, you feel, but crying about this shit,

ain't going to help at all. I'd be like, fuck it, though. I'm a fucking type of a nigga. I'd be like, fucking. See, yeah, what it is. Be a rapper, you got to look on the bright side. Yeah, no what I'm saying? Like, it could be a lot worse for me.

You know what I can be going through this shit and not having no money coming in. Like, and, like, I'm thinking. time I like really not have no money like no plans to get no money or nothing like still trying to find somebody to rob or something. That's your last uh last option basically yeah that's good i mean we got a bunch of employees here who honestly would be pretty good to rob i think that some of these people here don't say that man you know there's a lot of jack boys and shit will be watching the old shit man yeah i mean i'm not like really profitable to rob but i just feel like they would hand the shit

Yuri would just hand it over, but he got like 20 bucks to his name. But these niggas out here who like roared for nothing. Like I'm talking about I ain't got no food to eat. You feel what I'm talking about going to take that shit. You know what I'm saying? Just because you're going to give it to him. Watch out, Yuri. Let's talk about your younger days growing up in Sacramento and shit.

We interviewed a lot of different rappers from Sacramento recently, but I feel like you are on a very different wave, music style-wise and everything. I'm from Mobile, I'm from Mobile, Alabama. Oh, originally? Yeah, that's where I'm from. Until what age? See, I had moved my first time in California.

I was 12. Oh, okay, 12. So you get most of your growing up out there. Yeah. So we got down. And then, like, I ain't never, like, like, you know how some people are moved somewhere else and then they'll start, like, okay, like, I'm from over here.

Like, no, I was always on some shit. I'm from my practice. I'm from one-grown practice. I'm from Mobile, you feel? And then like ain't nobody moved to California but my mama. So all my cousins and shit, you feel, me. Stilling all my cousins, ain't to your uncle, still in my bill, you feel him?

So when I get on the front of talking to my people, they ain't got down, they're out of the way. You feel? Ain't nobody out of here with me, but my brother, no. I stayed in Pensacola, Florida for a little while. Pensacola, they're like 30 minutes for a room. They're so close, but there's the fucking time difference right there. So if you drive over the state border, all of a sudden, the time changes confusing as Fuck, your time will be changing multiple times throughout your day.

How long he was in Chicago? I only stayed there for a couple years. I was back in maybe like 2004. What you was I there for? Rodden bikes. Oh, shit. Yeah. But we went to Mobile a few times.

What are your memories of growing up there and what it was like? Shit, I ain't gonna lie. Like, you know, you only know what you see. You feel? Like, you don't know what you see. So I had a good, like, it was good for real for the most part. You feel? But I ain't had shit.

Like, I don't have shit. Like, you know what I'm saying? nothing you feel me I'm saying I used to stay with my grandma and shit or I p my grandma me my lord I used to stay with my grandma on the north side of town on grow the bottom and the camp and shit mm-hmm but when you look back at what your life was like when you're 12 it's kind of crazy to think about how much you didn't know what the fuck was going on that is right I'd be looking I'd be looking back at some of the shit and be thinking like well how the fuck I survived this

shit like like how the fuck I like get through that shit not like not like survive that shit like literally I'm talking about like how did I survive this shit mentally you feel man like I'm a I'm a full functioning grown man I like you feel man I ain't got no mental problems no nothing you feel like but did you see crazy shit out there like do you have memories of seeing some wild-ass terrible things going down like yeah I ain't I ain't I ain't know well near close to no normal childhood but I ain't know And so I got to California

And I was like Like five years into being in California, you feel? And then you start to really realize like, damn, oh, the shit I saw growing up is different than what I'm seeing out here. But okay, give me an example of the types of shit you'd seen in Mobile that blew your mind. Yeah, like, I was like, shit,

I don't even want to say, I think nine or some shit like that. Like around the age of eight, nine, and ten. You feel? My white boy partner, Joe killed this. in front of me and my brother Iceberg, you feel me. O'em jeez. O'em.

Outside or in the house. By mistake, you feel me? By mistake. I'm in a living room playing rock band on the, on TV, you feel him. Like, you know the rock band guy? Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm gonna be playing a rock band guy.

He's behind my brother behind his girl sitting on the couch, you feel him. So got down, you feel me? He's 16, you feel him? He's named Joe. And he got an, I ain't. lot down there it's different you know what I'm saying you know about the solid it's different everybody got guns he got a he got a he got a shotgun you feel I don't really remember what type of shotgun

or war but I know it alone though you feel him boom so got damn he playing with it and shit he always was playing with you feel me like I remember he had killed the snake with it you feel me like a couple of day back we were walking through the uh through the trees and shit it's like a little we were walking through the woods and shit you feel we were staying the grand baby so god down. Nicker, like, he, I ain't gonna lie on God

that kids and that on my little boy and my grandma gray. You feel me? He put the, oh, that motherfucker long as fuck

so that motherfucker like right here and he put his toe he pulled the trigger with his toe but before he pulled the trigger he's like,

he's like, I bet you the motherfucker ain't gonna go off like I betcha you're in hell, you feel boom that motherfucker go off

you feel but I ain't really paying no attention you feel me like I is on the corner of my eye I'm playing the game you feel

my brother really seen the shit, you feel, my iceberg really seen this shit, like, and a girlfriend, like, piece of meat slapped on her face out of the type of shit, you feel him. Boom, so got down. I'm playing the guy. I just hear, boom, I look over, you feel me. He's not already feeling and shit, you feel. Me and my brother ran out of the hall around. And was it, like, the craziest looking scene you could ever imagine? I'm picturing, like, blood all over the wall. I ain't a lot of, I ain't even going to sit here a lot, like I was just scanning the room, you feel? Like, when I heard, boom, and I, like, you know what I said? I ran the fuck up out of

I ain't just look at it or whatnot. I got the fuck on. Right, because are you immediately thinking, like, I don't want to be here when the cops come. No, I'm a little black light. I didn't think about no police. You feel what I'm thinking like? This is fucked.

Dead bad. You feel? Like, I'm good. Like, I ain't think about no police. Holy shit. I just, I don't know what I'm saying? A ring. Damn.

So when you look back at that, though, do you see that as being like a moment that, you know, I feel like a lot of kids who grow up in these crazy-ass areas and stuff, they go through very serious trauma and they don't really regard it that way. Like, you probably, like, did you go to sleep that night or were you walk around the next day

thinking about how fucked up what you just saw it was? Or did you just kind of be like, well, keep it moving? That shit got done. I ain't really, I ain't really know how serious that shit was,

because I was really like a baby, you feel? Like, I didn't really know how to see her that she wore, for real. Like, until I got older and then I'm telling people the story and they're like, like, both the fuck, you feel? Right.

And then it started done and I'm like, damn. I'm like. Uh-huh. That shit crazy, you feel? Wow. Were the cops making a big deal about it and try to talk to you and shit? Hell not.

That's the crazy part. The police ain't say nothing to us. I don't mind, nothing, you feel, man. You don't remember being in the news and shit? Yeah, it was in the news and shit. Wow. I mean, there's a lot of places where if a kid kills himself in a high school, like the whole high school got to go to, you know, therapy, sessions and shit to get over it.

It's like a, I ain't a lot. It was different, though. This ain't. time. Like, we're staying in Grand Bay. This is like a small city outside of Mobile, you feel? I'm jeez. Definitely. So, okay, when you found out that you were going to move to Sack,

what was your reaction? How did you feel about that as a kid? At that time, I was staying with my dad. I was twill. At that time, I was staying with my dad and shit. Got down, I'm like, shit. Yeah, yeah. My mama had caught our phone.

We staying on my dad at work, you feel? My mama called out of jail. So when she had got out of jail, she's like, she called her. She's like, y'all want to go to California. She had already been before. You feel me? And were you thinking in California

as this crazy, great place with girls roller skating on the beach and shit? Man, fuck it. Exactly that. I swear to God, exactly that. You feel me? I'm just like, I'm thinking it's like no race sales, you feel?

And I'm like, I'm going to go. I'm thinking it's damn like a perfect place. You feel me, I'm jeez. Sacramento, a little different. A little different. It's not quite Santa Monica. A little different. Then they were like,

I always had a mind stay like shit I'm not from my house I can do the fuck I want and go right back to do I can't run shit right. Sorry about that we got a little fly issue

right now I don't know where these things are coming from I ain't tripping off no flies I'm from a project man I ain't got to apologize with this shit I like that attitude

we need that attitude or not the black China attitude of she didn't even want to go in the bathroom and I thought it was a little too dirty I don't know yeah but okay

so why did you why was your mom in prison and why did she want to move to second minute she didn't go to prison she was just in jail I don't know I still don't know I still don't know to this day

why the fuck she was in jail for I'm good interesting but do you know why she wanted to move to sack was like a job opportunity it was like in sex

I don't know if you know but like in California it's like more like help like from the girl it's more government assistance shit I say you feel me like with pregnant women like they get them

what it's called GA or some shit like like they get like homes people like they'll take them out of the street you feel like they got a shelter program to what You stay in a shelter for a certain amount of time

that helped you get an apartment, you feel me? Like, they got shit like that. Mobile don't got that type of shit, you feel me? So, like, you know what I'm saying? They help people with kids. Like, they help single women with kids and shit like that. Right.

You feel me? So in Mobile, we had went to a shelter before the Penelipa house, but it was like a, they had the same type of program, but it was way more difficult, you feel me? Like, it was way more difficult, you feel me? So in Sacramento, it was way easy. You feel me?

Like, they really helping everybody. For real, for real. So, that really was going on. Yeah, it's crazy how different Sacramento is from the rest of California even. For real. I'm thinking the whole California like that. But my buddy was just telling me that in Sacramento is super easy to get a concealed carry permit for your gun, which is not the case at all in L.A.

In L.A., you basically got to be doing something where you're dealing with large amounts of money and shit. And he's telling me that it's super easy to get a concealed carry permit out there just because the cops know that there's so much bullshit going on, that they're fucking happy to put people in that position. I don't know. I'm sure you don't know anything about firearms. I ain't gonna lie though. I feel like

I feel like when there's more guns, I feel like when there's more guns in the city or whatever city it is, I feel like it's gonna be less crime. You feel like if everybody's got a gun, it's gonna be less crime. Because if I walk in the room and I don't know,

it might be one motherfucker and this motherfucker with a gun, you feel him? Like, shit, I slap this nigga right here. He ain't got no gun. You feel? I do this. Like, this is how people be thinking like. But if everybody got a gun this motherfucking nigga,

no, nine times out of ten, it's going to be a shootout. You feel him? Like, you might die or you might have to kill somebody. And a lot of people aren't ready for that shit. You have a much better reason to avoid any kind of violence when you know that it's going to be taken to that next level immediately. Yeah, it's going to be right down. You feel it?

It's going to be up. You feel him? So I feel like when, like, the guns, like, when they're strict as fuck, and then niggas be feeling like they're the only ones with a gun. You feel? Like, when you know, like, when you know, know, like, everybody can get no gun, you feel man, you just had to pay shit, $1,500 for your glock,

you feel me, like, shit. You know, man, that group of niggas it might just be two guns over there, you feel me, like, but shit in the South, nigga, it's going to be 30 guns in that little click, you feel me, me? So it's going to be, it's more respect, like, niggas walk in the store, excuse me, bro, you feel about. Right, right. You know what I'm saying? Like, the idea of having a society

where there is no guns is a nice idea, but the reality is that if they were, let's say they were able to get rid of all the guns right now, Well, then all of a sudden, you're in a position where the only people with guns are going to be the people who really, really go out of their way to get a gun, steal a gun, et cetera. And then all the normal people are going to not be able to defend themselves. Only the criminals are going to have straps. Because I ain't going to lie.

I ain't going to lie because I'm considered a criminal, you feel, me. Due to the face that I've been in jail most of the time and shit like that, I hate it, but it's just the statistics, you feel it. So I ain't going to lie. Criminers going to goddamn. I'm gonna find a way to get guns, you know. Like, that shit ain't gonna never stop, you know. So I feel like they might, especially rappers who, feelings who have become rappers, you feel

me, we got this shit on paper that we're getting X amount of money for shows and X amount of money for labor deals, you feel me? I feel like, it should be a way that we can get a concealed weapon's license, you feel? I don't know, I'm God. They feel like, they really just like, shit, fuck what you're doing now, you feel?

Like, they're putting what we did when we were kids on our back, you feel? We can't even protect our stuff, you feel? Like, real talk. Yeah, definitely. I mean, for a rapper to be moving around like that, they're basically putting you in a situation where you either have to do something illegal

by carrying a gun, or you are going to get your chain, snatch, wallet, took, et cetera, et cetera, because you're not going to be a position. Or you get higher security that's way too expensive for even most rappers. Yeah, a lot of rappers don't pay for this shit. And that's super, even if a rapper got more money

than normal people, but a lot of normal people obviously don't have that kind of money for security or nothing. I mean, it's just like a, They make the situation so that rappers basically have to go to jail just to exist or have to get really lucky and not get pulled over with the burner. Exactly, fool. That's why you see something in the rebels and shit, going to jail and shit. And then it don't even be a nigga can't pay for security.

It would be like, like, a lot of niggas ain't comfortable around security. Like, a lot of niggas ain't comfortable around regular people. Like, you feel? They don't want nobody to follow them and being that close up on them all day. Like, he ain't even about, I don't want security because that's pussy shit. It's about a nigga being like, like, I don't know. Sometimes I be getting uncomfortable, you feel it? But sometimes I'd be, like, doing security and shit, you feel me?

But, like, I just feel like, that's why a lot of niggers go to jail, you feel me? Because we got to protect ourselves, you feel me? Like, real talk, we got to. It's like a lose, loose situation. We got to protect ourselves. It's like, and then a lot of niggas rather get caught with it than without it. You feel? I'm like, because you get caught without it, your ass can die.

You feel? And everybody will be posting you up on Instagram, talking about he was rapping all that gang to shit woo-doo now he did wudu you know how they were doing they're gonna crucify a nigga in them coming you feel my god crazy so yeah I was just interviewing

ESTG and he was talking about how growing up in Louisville Kentucky that it was you know everybody can just have a gun so in his neighborhood he's talking about how everybody just walking around with it on him and it is just such a different vibe whereas if I was walking around down here and I saw somebody with a fucking AR walking around

I would, I'm going to run back in here, lock the doors. That would be crazy. They don't got that damn car, but the marsh is going to come out. They're going to block the whole street. They see you walking down the street with that you. But was that your experience growing up that it wasn't that out of the ordinary to see somebody just walking around with a big old gun out? Yeah.

Crazy. Yeah, like, I'm a bit. Everybody got a business that shoots your house up. A girl that shoots your house. For real, you've had that happen? Yeah, not. You were out of there, but they were going on with him playing with this shit, man. That is one thing that I've noticed

interviewing rappers like Rio the young O.G. was telling me like in Detroit or in Flint rather, it'll go down like a girl that really stab you in your sleep or shoot you. Like they're really, they're walking around worried that a girl's going to commit a horrible act upon them with a weapon which is not really

something that I've ever had to think about my whole life. Shit. You still think about this shit. I don't know like a like a girl is a dangerous, a woman is a dangerous motherfucker when they're mad. Like, they can go to it. Yeah.

I ain't going to lie. They do crazy shit. But I ain't ever had no girl put their hands on my or do no gun, shit like that. Really? You feel me? And I don't, I ain't like,

I don't even be arguing, though. I don't know, auger or nothing. You feel, I'm like. But back in the days, I used to be arguing and the shit. And they used to try to say shit that's going to hurt a nigga, like. And they used to be showing me like,

oh, yeah, a girl, like, they're going to try to hurt your feelings. You feel me. So you, you've avoided that. Yeah. I mean, I think that's why me and my girl have worked out because we're good at arguing. We can have an issue.

We can have a mature conversation about it. We can move past it. We get a little emotional, but we don't really like screaming at each other. Definitely never hit each other. One time she smashed a bottle of Henney. That was about the worst thing she did. Man, I'm not arguing.

We can have a grown-up conversation about it, but as soon as you get to raising your boy and shit, because I'll be talking like this. You feel? As soon as you get to, nah, that shit. I'm going to start laughing at you. And now you're going to be calling me childish and shit.

You feel, and I'm going to get the plan. You feel it? Like, I'm going to make it way worse. I'm going to make it way madder than what you can get. Or I'm just going to stay at you like you're stupid. Right. Yeah, I mean, you can't be inviting all that. You're going to have enough trouble in your life dealing with dudes who want to fuck with you

and test you. I'm going to come home and be arguing with you. Exactly. Bitch. You got to be able to come home and have a space of some solitude and some nice vibes, you know. Yeah. Okay, so you're 12 and you moved to Sacramento. What's your initial impression of what it's actually like when you realize

it's not going to be girls roller skating on the beach? Oh, shit. It's like, got down. Really, it was like, because my mom and them, she used to be trying to keep my house shit. So, goddamn. I used to be acting like I'm on a basketball team. You feel, me? Get out the house.

This is in middle school, though. Got, goddamn. I was 14. When I turned 14, I told my mom, I'm like, I came in the house. I was going to, like, man, I smoked weed. I ain't gonna lie, I'll be smoking and shit What was her reaction? She ain't gonna lie

My mom, she was out of the type My mama cool to fuck You feel me like L'n' like, long as the nigga keep it real with him She's great, you feel me And I told her like, I want to tell you that So you don't think a nigga Hid and shit from me and nothing, you feel

me like, that's good Yeah, I feel like That's the kind of thing That you would want your kids But it wasn't like even a question In your mom's mind That she was gonna ground you Or getting you in trouble

For smoking or nothing So goddamn But goddamn But goddamn I said that the say, shit, it wasn't really, it wasn't really, it was different, but you know, the same shit going on in air was, so once I peeped that, that shit, I was thug. I mean, there's still tons of violence in Sacramento, but you don't have people moving around with guns out and shit, so it's probably like a little different.

Yeah, it was like, me, they do it different, but it's still the same shit. So, like, once I peeped that and I, and I, and I seen how they do it, you feel, man, I start, you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't know what I was thinking? Move a little different. Okay, so what kind of kids do you end up? You end up just making friends right away once you go to school? Or is it a little awkward first?

No, it wasn't over awkward. Well, it was awkward kind of like, because I was the, you know what I'm from a whole different. Yeah, everybody's already clicked up by that point. Everybody knows each other. You're not from here and you mad country? Yeah, they've been going to school with each other since elementary and shit, you feel?

And I'm from a whole different state. I feel like I'm from a whole different country. You feel my swarthy girl. I feel like I'm from Jamaica or something. Because they keep like, huh, what did you say? Like, you feel me? Like, I'm talking a different language, you feel?

Are you gonna, are you having to learn how to speak a little bit more, like less slang and less like, you have a draw? Like, I had to learn how to, like, I had to learn how to, like, talk to what they can understand me, you feel, me? Mm.

I feel it. So, but you end up, like, forming good friend groups over, over the years? Like, did you end up sort of falling in? Yeah. Got damn, I started hanging with, see, my, my group of partners

wasn't from Sacramento, you feel? Like, because I always, like, we had that in common, like, we wasn't from here, you feel me, so on. Like, that's what we had in coming. And then it was like seven others, you feel like, it's still like, now, I don't fuck with two of them bitch-ass, niggas, but it's probably like five, you feel, me. Right.

You know what I'm saying? But I still hang with the same niggas, though. They were from all original. I was from Alabama, you know what I'm saying? We both had moved to a city that we wasn't from, you feel? So, though, we had them coming to, like, sure. Right, for sure. Were you always thinking about music and rap?

Was it always something you were obsessed with and were you recording early on in your life? Yeah, like, I wrote my first rap when I was like eight, you feel me? And then I recorded my first song I had got to California. My mama had a boyfriend. You feel, man. He had a studio.

He used to be making beats and she had a microphone. So I had one of that motherfuck when I was tweed, I had one of that motherfuck and recorded my first rap, you feel. Yeah, man. Oh, jeez. Did you, uh, who were you listening to that you were inspired by or that you were looking at like, oh, he's the man? Shit, like, a lot of niggas, like, booze it.

Uh, I was looking at Lou Wayne, you feel, me, juvenile, you feel, you know, the whole hot boys, you feel, man. Right. I was still on them, you feel, me. I was fucking with Tupacupac, you feel, me. Uh, goddamn. I was fucking with Kevin Gates around that time. Mm.

It's a lot of nays. A lot of good shit. Did you start to get interested in any of the Sacramento music and the stuff that was going on locally? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what I'm saying? Because it was intrigued.

I was intrigued by that shit because it was so different. So I wanted to find out why they liked it so much. I wanted to find out why they loved it, you feel? I started listening to my favorite Bay Area My favorite big rap all the time is the jacket. I love the jacket. You feel, my art piece of the jacket. I'm just.

I fuck with the jacket. It was hard, yeah. But it's interesting because, like, Sacramento kind of has its own world of music, its own sound, its own shit going on. It's, like, kind of real different from what you were growing up around. Yeah, I was intrigued by that shit.

I was like, damn, this shit crazy. Like, all of the world. Right. And then I peeped that shit early. I'm like, I'm like, shit. I'm done like getting the best of both. Like, you know, I'm learning shit that people where I'm from ain't learning you feel me and I

already know shit that people out here don't know you feel like you know what I'm like I peep that shit early I'm like yeah I can use that shit to my advantage right were you getting in trouble all through high school and shit or were you kind of keeping your nose clean yeah I was man I was thinking what kind of shit what kind of shit like we used to be we'd be beatings up and taking the iPhone shit you know what I had got called for you feel okay I used to be I ain't know, well, yeah, back in the days, I ain't never got cuffing no serious shit, you feel like,

right. I ain't never got covered no serious shit. But in high school, like, I stayed on probation. Before I just got out probation, I was on probation for seven years. Yeah. What was that case about? That was from that little shit. They had gave him a strong, warm robber with assault,

but they had dropped it down to a feeling in the theft of a person with a misdemeanor. the battery, you feel. Okay. If I was on probation with that, to start with, then, like, back in the day, you feel man, you feel, me. Even when we got to California, you feel me, like, we were living in California. And my mom, I always made shit we had a roof on out here, over out here, but, like, shit,

I used to be goddamn having to get it out to, get it in a way I can. So before I used to be stealing my clothes, I had to, uh, stole it right before school, and I changed, you feel my way to school, you feel me? So I had got caught for doing that shit one time, you feel me? Then I had, went to our juvenile house for that, you feel me. for that, you feel me. And then, we was on some little kids shit.

I was a little boy, probably like 14, 15. You feel, man? We had all got down, stole the little golf court at the apartment complex, you feel? They tried to give a grandthel for that shit, man. What the good, bro?

I'm Jesus, but they dropped it down to. What the fuck they dropped that shit down to? I would have never thought that stealing a golf cart would be that big a deal, but I guess it makes sense. Damn, I forgot what I forgot. fuck they called this shit. But they tried to give a grand thump of this shit. That was so gay.

That's hilarious. I don't mean gay, like, you know what I'm saying? Matter of fact, I take that back. That was so weak. When you, when you went to Juvenile Hall, though, did you start to feel like you were really figuring out? Because then you're around all these kids

from the same city, but they're, like, worse than you. They've been in worse trouble than you. They're from all over the city, so you start to really see what's going on in there, right? It's like that damn. It's like shit. When I got the juvenile high, they already knew me, though, you feel

me? Like I got the juvenile high, they already knew like who I wore, you feel me? Like I'm saying, like, that's just what I got caught for when I was looked, you feel me? So I was already, my name was already ringing bids and shit. So when I got to juvenile how they're like, oh yeah, they called me Belma.

They're like that Bama, you feel, who to who, you know. So goddamn juvenile, oh, cool, you know. That shit like a little, that shit like a little boys camp or something, you feel like. Yeah, but all the bad kids Yeah, but all the bad kids and this motherfuckers old. It's like, if you ain't no bitch, you're having fun because the bitch of a niggas getting beat up and shit,

like, and getting picked on and shit. But I ain't really like no bullish shit. I ain't, I stopped that shit. I don't like no bullish. Yeah, picking on the weakest guy out of the group or whatever. That's corny. I was in, okay, so at that point, though, like when did you actually get serious about the music

and really started having videos? and start getting some level of attention from it. When I was about 16, 17, 17. Okay. I had got down, I had got down. Drop my first, first, first video is called Scrilla. I did a remix to Kodak Blake. That was the first Kodak song I ever heard,

and that's what made me think he was amazing back in the day. Oh, good. I still for Kodak, I didn't know. Well, got down, I had remixed that shit. That was my first video on the office. I want you to see how I look. Oh my God, this is great. Is it still on YouTube and shit?

Yeah, it's still on YouTube. How many of views he got now? I don't know if I see. I don't know. I dropped it to go, though. I'm talking about it before my first song, laid out on near time. Late on, really what got me,

like, you know what I'm saying? Like most of my core fan base know me for type of shit. Yeah, but man, I remember the Scrilla era. People were going crazy for this song. Look at this shit. He got a nice little 200K on it. When I first had dropped them up with me at like 5,000 views.

Definitely robbing somebody in like a field here for this video. That's pretty dope. Oh yeah, you were already definitely on some bad kids shit. Look at you guys robbing this full. Damn, it's crazy. This was only four or five years ago. Oh, good. God damn.

Who did you have to shoot this video? What's your memory of what was going on in your head before you actually shot this? I forgot the nigger nine, though. Like, we're begging it like, round that time. around that time I had I already like knew who I was though I knew exactly who I was gonna be I ever knew like you know what I'm gonna

I really know what I'm gonna step or not you feel and so then what it is yeah you got the blicky out you got all these guys with you with their shirts off you were definitely ready to do something this is this is not a kid who had his head necessarily screwed on straight at this point of your life right

I was thinking though I ain't like oh I was thinking When I was interviewing Mack Jay the other day, he was saying that basically he don't feel like there's ever, like nobody could really be from Sacramento as a rapper and not, and be able to fuck with both sides in terms of like, you know. To my live with DMI's. That and, you know, just like the overall, like people were kind of on both sides of that and everything. Like, did you ever feel like you had to get drawn into picking a side and all that? They used to be trying to. Man, yeah, yeah, man.

When you first came out and shit, they're looking at you like, oh, he's popping now. We got to sign him up. No, no, no, no, not even that, you feel? Oh yeah, that too. No, not even that, though, for real. Not even so much that, though, you feel? Like, it was like, I'm like, oh, what I'm gonna'n't. Like, boom, back in the day, like, I'm really talking about back in the day,

because you know I had to stay out there, you feel? Like, I was really living out there, you feel? Like, I'm going to jail out here and everything, you feel? So the police, like, and then I had this, like, when I was younger, when I first, started growing my dress, I had this side right here, died red, you feel, just the tips, you feel? Okay. So goddamn, it was like just a little pet real. So every time I go to jail, the police used to I always think I was a blood, you feel

me? So I'm like, shit, I'm from over here, Alabama, you feel? I'm like, you know what I'm saying? They used to think I was lying, you feel me? I'm going to God. So they'll send me to the side, they'd send me over there that where, they send people from the south side from the south of the second middle. You feel me?

I'm like, shit. So I walk up in that motherfucker, they'd be like, boy, you look like one of them niggles, you feel? I'm from mobile out of Belmont. You feel me? You know what I'm saying? There's always somebody in there who knows me, though. You feel me?

I don't know. It never feel. So you never really got pressed on some, like, total stranger shit? Yeah. It's always somebody who knows me. They'd be like, no, that nigga ain't like. You feel me? Like, that nigga, ooh, you feel?

So point, I'd be like, bam. You feel me? They call me, bail me from me all that. But you always had that in your head that you wanted to avoid having a really, like, click up or get super political with it and all that? I ain't never really, I ain't never really, I ain't never really like go through out of the day

thinking about this shit like shit because just like I see I know exactly where I'm from my family I ain't even not this motherfucker you feel me like everything I'm doing it's with on beat you feel me and it's only seven us you feel me like you know what I'm saying

my family and my cousins and shit is in Alabama you feel right know what I'm saying right right and then around this time I ain't got another money to fly to my feel right up but I mean there's a lot of people who even if they're having success with music etc as soon as they get

chance to label themselves as something from the street, et cetera. They just, they run at the opportunity because they just, you know, either they want the protection or they want to have people at home know that they're associated with this, this and this. I don't know. That ain't never been me, you feel, me. I know God got me, you feel, you feel, I know what I'm saying? And I know everything I go through for a reason, you feel me.

He ain't going to put nothing on me that I can't handle. You feel? And if I can't handle it, I'm going to die. What I'm going to do, die, you feel? And then, like, from what I didn't seem growing up, I look at it. death like a baby being born that shit normal you feel right you know what I'm saying and I don't know if I believe in reincarnation yet or not but I damn the kind of believing that shit so I feel like I'm gonna come back and I think I'm gonna be the boss

every time I come back to this bitch you feel that was kind of a bar right there though I look at death like a baby being born real talk though that's really how I look at you feel me that shit normal as fuck you feel like that she really is life you feel I'm glad I learned that shit at the young age you feel because I can live my life without being scared or nothing. You feel me? Like, I can really have fun with anything. You feel like I can stand on the edge of roof if I want to.

You feel me? I can get down. Jump in the ocean, you feel me if I want to. I can go skydive. I went skydiving. You feel me? How is that? Fun as fuck.

You feel? I'm too scared. You feel me? Yeah. Oh, gee. God damn. No, I mean, I feel like that's a big difference is a lot of times people will see you and you've lost somebody and then they see you

and you're on your Instagram story, having a good time a couple of days later, and they don't understand that, As you get older, and if you're from a certain area or you're from a certain atmosphere, this is just going to be something you get more and more used to in terms of losing people. And it's like you don't think I ever get used to that,

your brain is sort of like getting used to it. Like losing people, like losing people are low. Right. Like, because I know, like, I see, I look at it like a baby being born and it's normal, but it's still I'm going to miss the fake of them being here with the nigga. Like, I'm going to say, I'm going to miss them. Like, family, like, real shit.

I don't know. The thing is, is like some people will, you know, experience a traumatic death and there'll be months of them not being able to be around anybody or whatever.

At a certain point, I think you've got to keep it moving. I'm still communicating, though. Because most of the people I don't know, I ain't never really seen them cry or nothing, you feel me? So I know they wouldn't want me crying, you feel me?

Like, every time I was with them, I was having fun. We were laughing, and joke and playing and shit. So I ain't, yeah, I don't really be on no crying shit, but it'd be hard, it'd be hard to keep that shit in,

though, for real, you lose somebody. Yeah, I'm always amazed when I'm watching like the dudes from Chicago and shit and I'm like, oh my God, they will go through the most craziest traumatic shit and you will see them back to normal the next day, two days later. And it just reminds you like they've seen so much of this that they can't afford to be sad for a week or at least publicly presenting their sadness, you know? Yeah, they're real tough. For sure. Okay, so when you feel like you started to really develop your style or you have a song start popping off because I feel like your style is, you never like really went straight to just rapping strictly street shit.

It always seemed like you wanted to make real good music. Yeah, like I'm still, I feel like I'm still developing my style for real. Really? But I ain't, like, I know everybody don't know how to dance, but everybody been through something So that's what I'd be trying to stick to. Like, I still be wanting to have fun with it sometimes. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, showing them I'm having fun with it,

because this shit is fun, you feel? Like, I do be, I be doing a lot of shit, you feel? Right. But I still be wanting to stick to what? Like, to what I know, you feel? Like, I know people going through shit, you feel? Because I've been going through shit my whole life, still going through shit, you feel?

Mm, definitely. But do you ever feel like you kind of have to make a certain style of music? because your fans expect something from you. And what do they want from me? They want, like, street shit in pain. They want you to really be telling them all the shit that you've been through.

Does it ever feel weird? Because you go through periods in your life where you're probably really happy and everything's great, right? No, I don't know really like... I don't never really like just feel like I got to talk about something. I just talk about what I go through, you feel?

You know what I'm saying? I feel like I feel like I'd be taking the sacrifice and going through the shit what I'd be going through to help somebody, like, to help somebody get through it, go through it. or not go through it. To help somebody get through it, get over, or not go through.

You feel it? That's what I feel like I feel like I take the sacrifice and go through the shit I go through for, you feel. So I don't really be tripping about the shit that be coming, you feel because a lot of shit do be coming, you feel? It be good sometimes, but it'd be bad sometimes, too. Definitely. How successful did you get before you linked up with E40?

I didn't get that. I was going up when I was still rising and shit. I just had reached, like, probably like, couple hundred thousand views some shit like that you okay and how do you reach out to you my nigga Ken had uh and do um

okay yeah and uh what was that like like how did the conversation go and how did that change things for you after that that conversation like he really was like telling me like he he wants to uplift the youth

like you know what I'm saying like he you were like I can't do that I'm like shit yeah yeah I'm like Fuck it. I feel it. You know what I'm a young nigga. I feel like I got the talent. I feel like, you know what I'm saying? I feel like I got it. You feel like, you feel like. He was like shit. I'm going to fucking behind. You feel what I'm saying? So as I sign, we had flew to New York. That's when all the 300 that flew us out. Okay. And you were just going around doing the media rounds and all that? No, I had one out there and did, like, I did a few labor meetings and shit just before I had signed. Because I had signed the distribution deal with 300 through, I had signed a distribution deal with 300 through 6 with the record. Okay.

And you're still with 300 now? Yeah, I'm still with 300. So how do you feel about them? There's been times where 300 was considered like a super hot label. There's been times where people weren't really talking about 300. How you feel about the job that they've done with your careers over the years? Yeah, I love 300. I don't know a lot.

I feel like, they've been the same people the whole time. I've been with them. You feel like, I ain't really felt no, no. Oh, no difference. And if it was a difference, it's them going harder for me, you feel me, like, you know what I'm saying? I'm good.

And it's like, I look at them like a family, like, because I've been fucking with them, like, my whole career, basically, you feel me? Like, soon as I started going up, shit, I flew to New York, you feel, man,

start fucking with them, you feel, and, like, you know what I'm saying? And then I feel like some things look at labels and they blame the labor because, like, they feel like a label both do so much for them, but I really feel like that's true,

but you got to get the label something to work with. Like, you can't just sit back and be like, all right, I can't drop no music because the labor don't want me to drop no music. Okay, what they're doing then, you feel? You can't look at it like that. You got to look at it like, all right, she'll okay. The labor ain't doing that right now.

I'm going to drop this song. I'm going to drop this song. I'm going to drop this single. All right, I'm going to put together this album and then show them the music. If they don't like it, then I'm going to try again. If they like it, then, all right, we're going to put together a role.

Like, then, like, If it go, like, if you drop one of them songs, see, this, all right, this is a perfect example of me. You feel me? For a long time, it was like, my shit was going like this, you feel you feel? And I'm like, shit, I was thinking just how the niggas be thinking, you feel me? Like, damn, damn, anybody fucking with me like, damn. You ain't fucking with me. Like, I'm like, shit, I'm just going to drop.

You see what? I started dropping, boom, because I thought I couldn't drop, you feel, I started dropping, boom. Video, video, video, video. Then I dropped big homer, big homer, go up. You feel me, they gave a label something to work with. behind it you feel me now we now we're moving you feel and that's when they click on my head like okay i got to work you feel never stop working never stop driving i got to know what i'm saying you know i heard you being honest about that in the vlad interview where you were talking about how you felt like

you know a lot of people in your life have basically lost faith in you musically at a certain point and that's something that you never really hear a rapper be honest about is what it must feel like to be doing a couple million views every video and then all of a sudden a year or two go by and you just seeing the numbers go down and you're starting to question yourself and you're starting to wonder like is this really going to work out etc obviously it's like got a happy ending of that story because then you went on to have huge hits after that but how would you describe like the way that you were looking in the mirror thinking about your career and shit at that point when it seemed like things were really not looking great that shit I ain't know a lot of shit got down it fucked with you

mentally like and emotionally you feel because you know shit that you thought was shit that you thought was like love turning like business. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, okay, you got to put your head on it scrapers on a couple of niggas who really fuck with you, you feel me, really believe in, you feel me, for real, you feel me like through thick and thin, like, you know what I'm saying? Like your day one pounders, like my nigga Keen, like, you feel him, like, like, like 300, you feel him? Like, you know what I'm saying?

Boom, 300. I just had to get them something to work with, you feel. But they believe in a nigga, like they paying for shit that they don't even post to pay for it. And I ain't even know, you feel me? at the time, you feel me. I just had to get smart, you feel man, get my head in the game, you feel me?

Like, you know what I'm saying? Definitely. Going backwards a little bit, when you really first started to have those big songs and shit, like what was that time period like in your life when all of a sudden you're not just a normal guy in your neighborhood anymore?

All of a sudden, you're the dude who's got millions of views on YouTube. That's got to really change how everybody's looking at you, right? Shit. Yeah, yeah, I guess. Yeah, I guess, you feel. But it feels good, though. I ain't gonna like feel good.

Because, like, I ain't gonna lie what really feel good to me is the kids. When the kids fuck with the nigga, that shit be making the nigga feel good, you feel because they can be listening to anybody, and there's a lot of niggas talking about anything. I'm talking about just saying it because of the rhyme, you feel. Like, I ain't trying to put no type of message, no substance, no nothing, you feel? So they can be listening to anything, so that shit makes me feel good on that fucking with me. Yeah, like when a 12-year-old comes up to you, Sean Mad, love. There's something about it where you feel like they're not trying to be cool.

Yeah. They're not trying to get down with you. They just really actually fuck with it. And that's kind of like, damn, like, that's extra special in a way. Yeah. Definitely. Okay. So do you remember a time, though, where you really started to have to move differently,

like when it really occurred to you? Like, oh, fuck, I ain't a regular guy anymore. I got to really watch my ass. Yeah, yeah. When I had got locked up and shit. Right. You know what I'm saying? When I had got locked up, I'm like, okay, like, you know what I'm saying?

Nick and like your name can get caught up in some bullshit at any time. You gotta watch how you move, like, and not even just that, like, you can, like, you gotta watch these bitches, you gotta watch everything, like, that's crazy, like, because you gotta watch everything around you, you feel? Like, everything around, you can't miss nothing, you feel like, and you know, a motherfucker ain't nothing but a human, you feel me, like, you're gonna miss it. you're going to miss some shit, but like you gotta try to catch everything. Like you gotta really be your honor. You feel? Like you gotta be your honor.

Mm, definitely. Was there a certain point when you decided like shit? I guess I shouldn't just be living in a regular-ass apartment where I'm a little accessible. Yeah, yeah, but I wasn't even tripping out of the safety part. You feel? I was tripping like the shit. Hey, I'm like, man, I'm like, man, I got to get the fuck up out of this

motherfucker. You feel? Like, no shit. That's how that was, you feel? Because, you know. Yeah. How does that feel, though? like you grew up in the projects, I guess, or, you know, not a nice place.

And then to be able to, like, upgrade your scenario a lot. Like, how much did that mean to you to be able to do that? To be able to basically, like, go from living in the projects to living in a nice apartment or a house or wherever you transitioned into as you saw the success. How did that feel? That feels good because it's like a nigga ain't never had nothing. And then I'm the type of nigga that be looking at the steps it take you for him. I'm like, I was thinking like,

but I'm out of the way at the bottom. It's going to take, like, I got to get right here to, get right here, to get right here, to get right here, to get at the top. You feel me? So I was like, bro, I got a, I got a long-ass way to go. So when I seen the store moving, like, fair, I'm like, okay, like, I still got a long way to go, but I ain't at the bottom no more, you feel, me? Definitely.

When I was watching that video with you and Young Boy and just E-40 having a cameo in there, Where did you shoot that video and what was the vibe like that day? I shot that video in Oakland. Oakland. The vibe was raw. If I was raw, I fulgo, I fought a long way for getting in the video for that point. I want to chill. That was like some, uh, spell the mama type shit too.

It wasn't even playing, you feel me. Like, he didn't have to do that, you feel? Uh-huh. Was that a real trap house or was that like a house you rented out to use as a trap house. That was my pina grandma house. Oh, for real? Yeah, that's a few of your videos. I was wondering. I'm like, so is this a house somebody really trapping out there?

Or is this a house that you went and got off Airbnb? Yeah, that was my part of the grubber house, man. Okay, that's good to know. I've seen a young boy rapping in that video, too. I'm pretty sure he had one of his baby mama sitting there right next to him, too. Yeah, I think so. He's got so many. It's really hard to keep track.

I think so. Yeah. That was so long ago. I think that was. Yeah, definitely. Would you look at him as somebody who was a big influence on your style musically? I feel like he, I feel like he showed a nigga that like street artists can sell, like, can do shows and sell hard tickets, you feel him? He showed him and like, we can do that, you feel him?

Like, no what I'm saying? That's interesting. Yeah, because a lot of rappers don't even ever bother to get into the hard ticket business. Like, people tell me, Rick Ross never, he'll always perform at clubs and shit, but he never really bothered to do the, the real official shows, like the way that you would think. You got to, I feel like, I feel like it's best, like you got to want to fill up them all them, you feel like.

I don't want to say fuck a club because there's money, you feel like, can't say fuck money, you feel. But don't just focus on them clubs, you feel like, you gotta get them hard tickets too, you feel I'm like. It's a totally different fan base too, because like your fans that are gonna go to a real show, you're gonna get the 17, 18 year olds. That's different.

The club is gonna be the 30 year olds, the 25 year olds, the, the more grown-ass people who go there to just sort of show off, they got money and shit. Yeah, yeah. Get a designer fit, pull up to a, nigga. At them venue show, niggas, gonna be a 16-year-old nigga

and that motherfucker with a snapback on, T-shirt, nigga, that you just wore yesterday, nigga, with some motherfucking bands on. In the mosh pit. In the mosh pit. You got a moshin at your shows? Ain't gonna lie at the festival. I love the festivals.

The festivals, they got a mosh. At the festivals, I love that shit. Definitely. But in my personal show, not really not what I want to, though. I mean, you might have to make some Exxatentation style, like crazy-ass songs. I might have to get that going on. I switch on my style one time.

Yeah. Do you feel like that, though? Do you feel like you take a lot of wrist musically, or do you feel like you just sort of go with the flow when you hear these beats? I just go with the flow when I hear the beats for real. I critique my shit sometimes because I don't want to sound like, I don't want to hear that I'm saying the same. something same, you feel but I'll be, I'll be trying to, like, I really be trying to step by side of the box sometime.

Definitely. I saw, you had this new video that was, like, a rest and peace song for your friend Tato. Yeah. Can you tell us how he passed and sort of what he meant to you? Like, got done.

He had got shot, you feel? That was, like, my little brother, you feel me, like, no what I'm saying? Let's hate. Like, they were, they were a nigga, Like for the people who don't know Lutee, you feel me, like, you know what I'm saying? Little bro is a real soldier, you feel me? Like, his brother had got killed in front of him, and he got hit in the head, you feel

me. Let's tell you got hit in the head, got hit in the foot, you feel me, and in the hand, you feel me, and survived, you feel me. Boom, his brother died. His older brother, weewee, you feel. So got down, that all my daughter, too, you feel. So got down. Then like two years later, you feel me, he gets shot again, you feel my, I don't want that, he in the coma for like two days, you feel me.

Oh, fuck. Come back, he's shake back, shake all the way back, you feel me, he was just at my album release, you feel me? So goddamn. You feel my, I wake up, you feel me, I wake up like, shit, a couple weeks later, you feel me, I just wake up to the messers on Instagram, like, like, got down. You were about to tell you, I seen, I just opened that whole, I ain't, I ain't asked what happened, you feel, me like, I ain't asked what happened yet, you feel my, I got down, I called Ken, you feel my call the 10, he didn't answer, you feel him, I'm like, damn, from my call in the green he didn't answer, you feel, not, not my heart race, I'm like, damn what the fuck on

on, you feel? So got down, I ain't gonna lie, I didn't, I forgot who the fuck, oh, oh, yeah, I forgot, who the fuck oh yeah i doesn't want that what made me mess up back you feel me so i'm like god damn what happened me let's say you feel me see like he got shot you feel me then she missed again like he died you feel me i'm like hell not i ain't believe it at first you feel me god damn god damn i don't believe that shit that shit that's yeah that's the funeral though you feel that's awful uh is that that's the one of your closest people that you've that you've lost yeah yeah that my little niggum yeah yeah that's super sad

Oh, you got him as the background? Yeah, yeah. He got my chain on right now. Oh, God damn. That's super sad. I got that little nigga name on my wild. Hold on, I'm feeling sick. I got that little nigga name with my wild in the house.

You feel? Before he died, though, you feel? He took a picture bag. His favorite was color blue. I got their name in blue right there. That's dope. Damn, you just let your friends do graffiti in your house? No, yeah.

I paid a nigga to do that shit. Oh, okay. Yeah. Damn, rest in peace though. I mean, like when you were making that song for him and shit, though, like, did it feel like a lot of pressure or responsibility that you want to sort of make a song that could really be the anthem? No, I had already had this song.

Oh, really? Yeah, I already had a song. I ain't even want to make the song just because of that reason, you feel, me? Uh-huh. I couldn't make a song, you feel? I couldn't, like, I couldn't get myself to make a song. You know what I'm saying? Um, you never, you never, you never, you never, you never, you never, you never, you never, you never, you

never really like have been a person that that really used any kind of like B for drama to like promote the music for the most part huh? Man hell now you don't want to put it in the lyrics and shit it's very no man they need to be trolling I ain't I ain't fun to be trolling nobody because I'd be on this shit and I don't want to go jail bro yeah I don't feel like jail for no man you feel like that shit for animals and shit I don't even feel like no animals you feel right that shit I'm for like no man I'm really right that shit I'm for no man I'm really right that shit I ain't for no man I'm really I'm really right and that shit I ain't for no man I'm I don't even know who made that shit. Who I made this shit is the bitch. Yeah, it's kind of crazy when I watch jail shows. I'm like, I can't believe this shit still exists. Yeah, man. But doesn't it feel like it should be a lot different?

Like, the world has changed a lot, but prison has pretty much stayed the same. Oh, God, but, like, I don't, I ain't doing the rap even. I got a lot of different shit going on. I got, I got other shit going on. But I just want to make music, you feel? Yeah, I mean, your manager was saying before that he thinks you've never really been one to use drama for your content because you've always been

having cases hanging over your head or being on probation. Yeah, I've been in the real shit. I've been fighting cases and been on probation, kids and cases been on probation. And then on probation, I've been on the run and shit. Like, you know what I'm saying? I ran from my POs and shit. I ran from every PO I had. Every PO I ever had, I ran from.

Wow, really? Yeah. man, jeez. God damn. It's like shit, man. I'm not gonna be beefing with you knickers. I haven't seen what I seen. Like, you feel?

Your childhood was not like mine. You feel? That's honestly a good lesson for a lot of kids out there because I feel like a lot of kids now look at all the popping gangster rappers and they're like, oh, I got to smoke on somebody's dead homie. I got to have all this crazy-ass shit in my lyrics and stuff.

I ain't gonna smoke on a nigga dead on, man. I was I smoke. Yeah. Now, if I smoke on, you feel? or my brother smoked them because that's my brother you feel me but I ain't gonna put it in the song

you feel that's like some me and my brother type shit we're like real you feel my own right you know what I'm saying but I ain't gonna lie

I'll be listening some of this shit though I'll be fucking with that shit though yeah I'll be fucking with it but then I'll be like not telling anybody though I'm fucking with it

I tell the nigga I'll fuck with the shit I listen to what the fuck I want to listen to what the fuck I'll listen to I'll tell them I fuck with it but there's a lot of songs that I would never put it on my story

I would never sing it Because I want to be like making fun of some fucking kid that got killed in this whole gang shit or whatever. Yeah, that's real. They're real. Yeah, real. But I listen to what the fuck I want to live too, though. But I ain't for them to put that shit in my son or thought. I ain't fun to put no one.

Because a nigga rap, I ain't gonna lie a nigga rap by my people. I'm gonna be ready to throw it, I don't go, you feel. So I ain't even fucking take it to that level. They're like I ain't fun to play with no nigger mama, you feel me? Because I know you play with my mom and I'm saying. I'm gonna say fuck everything you feel me like fuck everything that's going on you play with my mom feel me that's all yeah that would be really really hard to to how like some of the shit that you see and rappers do to disrespect each other over the years when you really think about it

you get to plan on two niggas like that like and then yeah i doing this shit trying to sell records and shit don't know if I'm doing like most like most i'm doing i ain't gonna say all along because some of the niggum me and that shit you feel i know that for a fact you feel like something that's me and that shit right but a good majority a good amount of the niggas doing that shit to sell records like right right that shit like season nine bitch he's doing that sell records and shit yeah and i mean you're right for sure that like you know if you if your side was responsible for somebody dying it's one thing for you to rap about it it's another thing for you to just be talking about some shit that has nothing to do

with you that shit when i see that i immediately lose a lot of respect for that person yeah that's another reason why i'm not from to be on instagram screaming the leads to it to like know what's I'm not going to be doing this. I mean, you've had big successes with records. So it's like, you know, there's only a certain level that if you make a diss on, there's only a certain level that it can get to. It's sometimes kind of big, you know, who I smoke. We've seen that.

Like, oh, fuck, there's actually a huge song. But for the most part, if you're making like a drill record, dissing somebody, whatever, you could get a million, get a couple million views. But you're somebody who you've seen 30, 40, 50, 100 million plays slash views on your shit. So it's like that that's something much different to aspire to, knowing that all you have to do is make a really, really good song. And you could make a stupid amount of money and be able to tore off that shit and all that stuff. That's a lot more appealing than just making these murder anthems, you know. But something that like murder, though.

Ain't a lot of... I like this shit, bro. I don't go, bro, but it ain't even just know on no bed on no bad shit, though. Like, all right. It's like, I don't know, bro. I don't know. But I like it. I like the music.

Like, you mean, I like the music. You know what part of it is is that if I listen a song in somebody's rapping about being a good rapper or driving down the street and having a gun, whatever, it's easy to not pay attention. Some of these songs I listen to where I can tell that they're talking about real shit is like I'm literally listening to every word

because I'm really trying to figure out exactly what the fuck he's talking about and who did this. You know, So it's easy to understand why the fans are so attracted to shit that is super violent and super toxic, etc. Oh, good. Oh, good. Like, I'd be trying to, like, I'd be trying to figure out.

I'd be doing my research. I ain't going to. I'll be trying to figure out what the fuck a nigga talk about. Right. And then I'd be knowing niggums from here, what? Like, you know what I'm saying? I'd be asking. I'd be, I'd be, man.

Right. And that's how I'd be knowing, like, a lot of these niggs that are trying to see a record. Like, I ain't got, niggas be having a man. Imagineer outs. I forgot who the fuck said that shit. But somebody said, the real of shit, what nigg would be having.

Imagineer outs. Imaginary dead bodies. Imaginary dead homies. Niggas down to be making up names. Real talk, bro. Believe it or not, niggas be making up dead homie names. That's crazy.

It's like, it's considered so cool to have a bunch of dead homies that people will actually lie to have an image. On cram, nigga. On cram. Who the fuck is cram?

I was thinking that, I'm like, who's crazy? I'm good. So in terms of your legal situation, has anything changed? You got any kind of updates in terms of everything, or are you still just waiting for your dang court?

I'm just waiting for my damn court, for real. Like, all the updates, I've been getting being good. Like, they permitted me to travel and shit. Like, at first I didn't want me to travel. Like, you know what I'm saying? I could only move around Atlanta for, like, being his purposes and shit. Like, you know what I'm saying?

There's no. I'm on 24-hour or ankle monitor. Right. You know what I'm saying? No curfew on nothing, 24-hour. You feel? So you can go wherever. You just have to have the angle monitor on

and tell them where you are? No, it's a 24-hour inside. Oh, in the house all day. Okay. But now they permitted me to travel, so now I can go out of time. You feel? I just got them, tell them, like,

they got your address. Like, the court in Atlanta got your address. I ain't going to lie to you. Well, if they give it out to anyone, we're going to be pulling up on them. Real talk. I had to tell them, though. You feel?

I'm like, you know what I'm saying? I got to tell them where I'm going. For sure. I got to send it back. I got it to send them and then they got to send it. They got to approve it. Definitely. Like, what do you, like, I noticed where I was just looking at your

Instagram story earlier. I'm like, oh, man, this dude is wilding. Like, you really were like out here and all these cars with your homies. You just drive around all crazy. Burning donuts, all this shit. Yeah. Is that just a hobby? or like that's what you like to do when you come out to LA?

That's just, like, I'd be wanting to have fun and shit. Like, I remember when I was, I used to see the fair cars and shit drive by the we used to play, we used to play keylock, you feel man, and bingo. We used to play bingo and shit. When you see the raw-ass calls, whoever say bingo first, a key lock, that's your car, you feel? Like, you know what I'm saying? Whenever you see it, yeah, that's my car.

Yeah, I remember when I, you know what I'm. Oh, okay. Oh, man, man, I love calls, like, you feel, man. Call, man, and guns, like, you feel, man. But I don't fuck with guns no more, you feel me. I had to put that, I had to leave that shit alone. You feel me? I left that shit alone, like, when I started rapping and shit,

like, you feel. But you used to have them in the videos and shit. No, prox and shit. Okay. Yeah, yeah, man, prox and shit. You know, the kids like that shit, you feel. You know what I'm saying? But I still, like, you know, in my music,

I try not to just rap about murder, murder, murder, you feel, I tell them, like, the shit that people go through in life, that lead them to robbing and killing and stealing, you feel me. or selling drugs, you feel me, and shit like that. I tell them about the scrub. I tell them about the horse. I tell them about the pain.

I tell them about the rain. I tell them about the backstabbing. I tell them about the girl cheating. I tell them about the mama leaving. I tell them about the daddy leave. And you feel him? I tell them about the grandma dying. I tell them about everything.

You feel me? Like, you know what I'm saying? I think that's why I actually listen to your music and why I really have some of your songs on my playlist of shit that I'll listen to when I'm in the gym and shit is because I actually appreciate that. Whereas, you know, being 37, it's like, I can only listen to a motherfucker say, like,

oh, I was selling crack or whatever so long. But then, because I heard, I had rappers that I loved over the years who talked about selling drugs, but then really let you in on how guilty they felt about what they had done to their community, telling you real stories about shit that really happened to them in that world. And that, to me, is just so much more compelling

than I got a rock in my sock or whatever the fuck. If you're like, man, I killed that nigga. Like, you know what I'm saying? Or I, I turn to me. to a monster you feel more they're gonna tell you why they did this or why they turned to a monster like they ain't gonna elaborate like you feel my head that what I had to teach myself I had to make myself I had to make myself more vulnerable in my music like I can't just be like I've been through the rain I've been through the pain I had I gotta tell them what that shit felt like I gotta tell them like exactly like I got to pinpoint stories of my life like exactly what happened like you feel him put names in this shit like you feel me who left you feel like like like no who did this like you film, you know what I mean? There's a lot. If you look at like the biggest rappers and that sort of

style of music, whether it's a young boy or a Kodak, the reason why I think people really fuck with your shit is because there's pain in it and there's emotion in it. It don't just feel like you're just fucking saying something just to say it. You know, it sounds like, you know, there's real feelings behind it. Yeah, it's

real shit. There's real shit that going on, like you feel? And I put it out there. I don't even put it out there hoping that they fuck with it. I put it out the and I express myself and it helped me, you know what I'm saying? I know it's going to help somebody, you know. Just like I said, it's going to help somebody get through it, or not, it's going to help somebody get through it,

not go through it, or get over, you know what I'm saying? Real talk, that's what I be trying to do. Respect. Yeah. Do you got any big plans coming up for this year, aside from beating this case and all that? I'm trying to get down. I'm really trying to drop more music and step up on my performance game on stage for

I'm trying to put together a real, like, show now. You feel, and that what I'm trying to do. Is that partially because you haven't been able to perform much over the past year? No, I've been performing. I ain't going to like. Oh, yeah, you're comfortable down south. You got that audience down there. They never even wore a mask or nothing.

You know what I'm saying? I've been performing and shit, like, you know what I'm saying? And now everything's starting to open back up, so now everything, it's getting back. And then, like, when the shit had locked down, you know, my audience was bigger on the West Coast, you feel me, at first. So when shit had locked down,

I had got down, I focused more on the South because the South was open, you feel me, so now I'm like, okay, I got to, I critique my son a little bit, I'm like, okay, I got a goddamn, boom, I focus more down on here. So then them shows started cranking, so now I got the best of both, you feel?

And now I fulfilled what I really was trying to do, you feel? So now when this over, all the way back up, I got this now, you feel? And I can down there, I can book show with myself and do this over here because I'm so used to doing this on the West Coast and still have these going, you feel? Sure. No, yeah, it's definitely good to see things going your way. Anybody you want to shout out?

Any thanks? Shit, I want to thank everybody on my team, you feel? I want to thank $3,000, you feel? I'm like, shout out my nigga, Ken, you feel, you know. They're going to rolled out. You know, we've been in this shit. since day one. You feel?

You know what I'm saying? Shout out of everybody. That gang gang, shout out I don't want to be. Sure. Shout out God. Shout out to God. That's a fact. Yeah, I appreciate you coming through, man.

I'm glad to do it. Because we were supposed to have this conversation like years ago. I forget it, maybe 2019. I remember the label hit me up about the interview and for some reason it didn't happen. But to be honest, I mean, your shit is blown up a lot since then.

I'm glad. I think it was good timing. I appreciate that shit, man. I ain't a lot. I appreciate you having me and this motherfuck of it. for real. I appreciate you keeping a real with us.

Yeah, yeah, man. Yeah, got to. That's all I know how to do, man. I'm gonna try to be something else and be me by mistake. There it is. Yeah, man.

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