No Jumper - The Peso Peso Interview: "Hoe Gayo" Diss Record, Recent Arrest, Sauce Walka & More

Episode Date: September 28, 2020

Peso is back on the No Jumper podcast, to talk about his new music, Slim Thug, Sada Baby, Sauce Walka, past beef, fatherhood, and more! https://www.instagram.com/pesopeso/ https://twitter.com/pesopeso409 ----- FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 FOLLOW OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/529mn7of2HBKdLfrAMUzcK?si=rWVBWCuWSXeh0TFYb2P-dQ CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/nojumper iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/no-jumper/id1001659715?mt=2 Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/No-Jumper-198283650194402/ http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 and adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumper, coolest podcast on the world. And today, we got one of my favorite rappers, Paiso Paiso in the building. How are you feeling, man? Man, I'm feeling great, bro. Really shit. It feels great to be back. I was just banging out to your new project. What is it, Mavita Loka or some shit, some Spanish shit, I forget.

Me Vita Loka. I was driving around and listening to that shit today. I felt like I was about to get a car chase or something. It was so lit. It was a good project right there. I appreciate that. Yeah. So how are you living?

And I feel like the first time that you came on this show, you were like brand new. It was like your first time in L.A.? You said you just hopped in the sprinter with all the homies and just took off to L.A. that time. Yeah. That made an impression on all of us. It's crazy because I was working so hard that I wasn't even in my city when I lived. I was in Fort Worth and I was like, fuck it. We're going to go splash off, right in it right from right here.

You've been me? Fuck the plane. We're going to hop in the sprinter. I called my nigga Kenny B when they picked my nigga from stop six. Yeah. And it went down. We always kind of talk about that, man. Had Julo with me.

Peso pulled up, like, 20 dudes in a sprinter deep, and they just pulled out spilling out of that thing. Mad, fucking blunt smoke everywhere. Yeah. That was tight. So how much has changed since then in terms of your lifestyle, in terms of how everything's going? Because you were, like, brand new as a rapper at that moment.

New. a whole lot of new money you know what I'm saying a whole lot of new music a whole lot of a whole lot of new jury new cars what was the inspiration behind that

that piece right there that I'm so fascinated about with a little little dude I don't know how to describe it well this guy I've been having I've been having I've been working on him

for probably about like my jewelist started on him probably like in February Okay Maybe like early March What was the inspiration What did you tell him he wanted right there? Um

I told him I exactly wanted this He added We talked about with the peso chains Like it being connected to like The pesos So shit He just he just threw his own little shit You know what I'm saying

You see that as like a cartoon version of yourself Yeah okay So basically This is the monkey The Mexican monkey out Dreamcast Oh okay Sam of the Amigo And um

I don't I'm not really into like the games and all that stuff don't get a twist it I'm I'm into some of the stuff but I know like I know about like I know about Dragon Ball Z like how I got the Android 17 on my arm right here like I know I know about that stuff but I wasn't really in the dream cast like that I was but I wasn't I really didn't know about the monkey but I knew of the monkey you know what I'm but um but um I figured with the monkey so hard and like a man like look like me and shit oh he got the pints in his hands and shit too huh yeah you got the paint I don't know you see it but it kind of like yeah lights up you feel I just out walk right there huh and um I got

I got the chain on red band-dand-on on his neck you feel me with the with the with the Mexico hat motherfucker me pace up peso oh yeah oh yeah stop playing we got the Mariachi hat the pace oh place oh AK-47 holding that bitch up with the babes. So basically Mexican pride on a hundred. Basically what the, basically this monkey is me. Right. You know what I'm saying?

This monkey is me. Like this cartoon character, this is the cartoon character that describes me the most. Right. You get me? I've received that. Because out of all the characters, he's Mexican. You know what I'm saying? Right.

he is so shit. That goes with me. That's how I feel when I look at Charlie Brown. Right. That's me in cartoon form. A little white boy can't kick the football. They pull the football away. Right. You know? So since that's the only cartoon that's Mexican that describes me, I just stripped them and put off my shit on them. You think that it's even more important than ever right now for you to be representing the Mexicans and hip-hop in a good light since, you know, certain people are out here snitching and talking and shit?

Hell yeah, bro, because people ain't people ain't motherfucking me honing down the right way, man. They fucking up at them. So I hear it, man. Okay, so how's the family life and everything? Because I've seen you, like one thing that I've been noticed

over the past few months following you is that you have a very strong relationship of your kids and you're not scared to put some hilarious shit on Instagram. I forget why your kid was crying. What did you do? What was it? Like you threw something in the toilet and the kid was crying.

I forget. Oh, no, it was an animal, right? I remember that. What was it? A lizard or some shit? Yeah. It was a lizard, yeah. It was a lizard.

He ain't want to, he wanted to flush it. Right. Yeah, he didn't want to flesh it. And I was like, well, shit, I'm going to flesh something. He was like, no, no, no. Like, I'm going to flush. He said, no, let me flush. And he flushed it.

And he had the gun in his hand. Right. Yeah, he walks. run all day with a gun. Wait, a little squirt gun type thing? Yeah. That's cool. Like a nerve gun and shit. Right. He keeps, he keeps, he stays strapped to it. Is that, that's got to be weird though, because my first kid's popping out in about six, seven weeks, so I'm very excited about that. Congratulations. Appreciate it. But I feel like that's, that's got to be a weird thing to go through, is like your kid's sort of like confronting death for the first time and realizing that,

you know, sometimes he's not a human being. You got to get flushed. True or false? I know there's a lot of things I gotta look forward to and become an apparent, but Yeah, that's crazy. That's definitely one of them, I guess. You gotta teach him about flushing the fucking salamander or whatever the thing was. I don't know. Man, my son goes through air, he goes through all the type of crazy shit like all the time.

Like the other day we had to shoot out in the house. Yeah. Oh, with the nerve gun. Right. But like for some reason he wanted that, he wanted the, like for his weapon he wanted the sword. So I just aired them out. You have to explain, though, like sword versus a gun. It's not going to go that good.

So I just, like, I showed them how, like, it ain't going to go good. I just airs the ass up. Yeah. I was fucked with it, man. Hey, so you, were you shut down for a while because of COVID? Because I get the feeling that you're not shut down at all currently. Just shows. So shows were shut down.

I really couldn't do no. I was doing a whole bunch of shows. I do pop-ups. You know, I'm an independent artist, so I do a lot of my own shit. Right. So I couldn't do no shows because it wasn't, it wasn't no shows going on. Right. I couldn't do no pop-ups because everything was closed.

And then for the people that would let me do it, it was like too much rules, you know what I'm saying? So really couldn't. It wouldn't work out like I wanted to. Right. I was like, I was just away. I was just away. So all I've been doing has been recording. That one of I've been dropping a whole bunch of mixtapes.

Like, I'm going to drop another mixtape. Right. even though I just dropped like I feel like as an artist and as me being and me still like developing and like even though I'm a big artist but me still like developing and getting bigger and bigger and bigger and still trying to get to the to the to the level that I want to be at and much farther I feel like at this point right now I got to drop hell of music you feel me like a lot a lot a lot of music I'm saying I mean that's the best thing you can get out of the the pandemic I feel like as an artist. It's like you can't really make as much money as you would normally. You can't do

all these shows like you would normally, but at least you can really work on the music. Exactly. Exactly. I feel it. So that's what basically I've been doing. I've been doing music, and I've been working on like different merch designs. I've been shooting a whole bunch of videos. Right. And the last past month or two, I've been taking trips. So like I've been going to Miami. and come back and forth to LA and shit. So we're getting back to jiggy now, man. That's fire.

You've been staying out of trouble? Because I've seen you getting arrested and shit, right? Yeah, that shit was so gay. It wasn't even about shit. It's just, I'm fighting the old case back home. It's just the old pistol case. I'm going to beat the bitch, you know what I'm saying? But I've been fighting that bitch for like a year.

Right. The corona shit been having everything so backed up. Yeah, right. Like the last time I went to court, I was supposed to beat it, but my lawyer couldn't come because he has corona. He's just all the type of is weird. Oh, what? Really? Yeah.

Damn, so they've just been fucking trying to get you in various places because you still? No, so basically, uh, so the reason why they came and locked me up is because I had a bond for it. It's your eye, so, you know, whenever you, uh, whenever you post-born, if, if you, like, if they ain't fucking with, something that you're doing like if you're doing something that they ain't fucking with the bond people that that uh that you under the bond with they can like take a bond away and like and so basically like you won't be under bond with them on one so now you ain't so now you just got a warrant because you got to you got to rebond out you know what I'm saying so they give you a warrant so basically that's in Galveston like that like that my case is in Galveston I was in Houston

I was in Houston doing an interview with a little flip and they came all the way from Galveston to come and fuck with me so they did all that

so imagine like they came all the way they drove a whole hour and just to swarm me like that like bro I ain't gonna lie Adam I was like what the fuck

I was like bro what like there's no reason why I'm getting done like this because I haven't did nothing like they they They motherfucking me. They're doing me like I got a motherfucking.

You know what I'm saying? Right. Well, that's some Texas shit. I feel like right there that they would want to terrorize a rapper and go mad out of their way to pull some shit to get some attention or something. Yeah, I ain't know what the fuck was going on. And then I found out that it was just for the bond shit. So I was like, okay, man, I'm fin just go do a walkthrough.

Right. I just had to pay $5,000 to get up. Uh-huh. I bonded out in like an hour. It's easy to bond out where I'm from because the city's so small. So it ain't like a whole bunch of like, it ain't like the booking area ain't like real, real busy. You feel me? Right.

Like don't get twisted. Like it gets busy, but it's not busy. Like Houston, when I got locked up in Houston, I was locked up in Houston for three days in booking before I was able to bond out. Right. And my bond was paid for it right before, like right when I got locked up. That's like the most offensive thing when you get locked up and you're like so you know you're just going to take three days in my life here just to just to process me just to get me through this fucking system you're going to rob me a three days in my life like you have no idea how much three days in my life is worth right I haven't been locked up in a long time but they don't and they don't give too fucks who you are what you got going on the only people who it would it would ever give a fuck is if like you just you just don't you just you're going on what you just just got a fan that's a fucking guard or something. Right.

Sada baby was just in here telling me that when he got locked up. That's so rare. That the cops were playing his music in the cell, telling everybody before they even got in that he was there and shit. Yeah, that's how he do you. Yeah. Yeah, that's exactly how they do it. Right.

Exactly. It's a shit show. You're a Sada baby fan? Hell yeah. He's hard as fuck, right? That's my nigga though. Yeah. But I'm definitely a Sada baby fan.

His music is crazy. Yeah. That's my brother. How does he fit into the whole overall sauce? factory, family. Because there's certain people who aren't 100% officially sauce, but, you know, I see him with you

guys all the time. He got, like, his own lane, you know what I'm saying? He got his own he got his own lane, especially with the Detroit shit, like, he's killing, he's killing that shit, and he's fucking him up all around. You feel of me? So, shit, he got his own

lane, you know what I'm saying? At the end of the day, but shit, he fits in perfect, you know what I'm saying? That's one thing I noticed listening your project that you've been tapping in with a lot of Detroit artists. Yeah. Hey, I fuck with Detroit. Right. I forgot their music. Definitely. Yeah, yeah. GT on that project. Yeah. A bunch of people, really. Hey, I forgot Detroit's music. Yeah, they're just hard as fuck right now. And it's like, it feels like shit has changed so much that like Detroit has a super signature sound right now,

but it's not so different from a lot of what's going on in Texas and shit. Like, a lot of people are, like, I don't know. It's like y'all definitely sound like you make sense together. Yeah. Right. Right. I like the Texas and Detroit Nation. A lot of the trip people have been fucking around in Houston too. Yeah, yeah. There's been a lot of trip people in Houston.

I see it. I see it. There's all these like dope underground scenes all over the country that are sort of meshing together. All right. In a way that you probably wouldn't have seen a long time ago, you know?

Yeah, yeah. For sure. But I see you tapping in with the older guard as well. You got that video with Slim Thud that just came out and shit. How did that come about? So shit. You know, I'm always seeing Slim Thug in Houston, you know what I'm saying? I'm always passing by him and shit.

And I got a producer that I fuck with in Houston named B-Dun and G-Luck. You feel me? They're like a duo, you feel me, G&B. And he'd be going through their studio and shit. I'd be tapping it would be done. We'd be on the phone and shit, shit. One day I was on the phone to be done and he was over there and shit. We hopped on the phone and shit

I pulled up We did that shit Yeah yeah And we shot the video Probably like the next week Do you think it's important to Tap in and show respect to The grandfathers of hip hop

In particular because I feel like A lot of younger artists Don't rush to go do songs With the established legends In their scene Because they got their heads up their ass And they think they If they do a song with OG

It's gonna make them look old school in comparison thoughts not i'm not saying it i'm saying some people that okay so nah i don't think like that because shit i'm so hard shit you know but i don't know i don't know that's a hard it's crazy because because shit it's like before all this shit i was a fan you know what i'm saying like especially the o g's like i grew listening to something to i grew listening to zero, SPM, J-Dog, you know what I'm saying? Like, all the screwed up click, you feel me? Mm-hmm.

So, even with, even other rappers, like, A-Baw, MJG, you know what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. Shit, what other rappers? I even grew up listening to Meek Mill. Mm-hmm. I'm saying? So it's like, it's like, shit, I don't know. It's just kind of crazy because it's like, that is the kind of thing that will give you a lot of respect from the OGs, I feel like,

but it's interesting that some people choose trying to seem like they're brand new like they invented the hip hop shit over showing respect to the OGs. Yeah, and it's like, not even that I'm showing respect to the OGs, but like I'd be genuinely excited. You feel, me?

And I'm sure that's respect right there because it's genuine, you know what I'm saying? But like, I'd be genuinely wanting to fuck around. Like, I don't even like think like, all right. I gotta, I gotta get this song with this dude and this dude because that, that's gonna be a good look and that's being, I need to do it to pay home, like, hell nah, I just wanna work, you feel me? Right. I always wanna do a song with them, you know what I'm saying? Definitely.

I'm some real shit. Has it been crazy seeing your fan base get bigger and just, like, expand past the, the smaller audience that you were making music for at first? Like, do you feel an additional responsibility and shit? Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Yeah, yeah. So additional responsibility, though, I guess. More money, more problems, you know what I'm saying?

So, yeah, more cloud, more money, more money, more problems. That comes that way. But as your fan base gets bigger, you get more people that are a little bit further away from the culture that you come from and are a little bit more, you know, just like random-ass kids that don't know necessarily anything about where you're coming from. Is it ever feel like you see people popping in in your comments and you're like, man, they really don't know what the fuck is going on in terms of the lifestyle that I'm talking about.

Yeah, but shit, if they supporting the peso-p peso shit, man, I'm rocking with them. And if they're hating in a negative way, then shit, I don't even give a fuckin' shit. At the end of the day, all publicity, good publicity. Like, I don't get too fucked.

Like, I don't, like, I'd be looking at my comments. And I respond back, I respond back to stupid comments. Don't ever. I just feel like this comment so stupid. Like, what the fuck? Yeah. Because on one hand, you want to ignore the stupid comments, but on the other hand, you want to like, yeah, why not? I'm going to wait in here and let him know what I think about what they're saying. I don't even be wanting to answer it for him. I'd be wanting to answer so everybody else can see it. Right. But I'm undefeated with the comments, man. All my comments go up.

Yeah? You want to get in there and do battle with them? These fucking assholes in the comments? How's everything going with sauce? Because he keeps making noise And like, you know, I feel like That's one of the more underrated movements In hip-hop, the whole sauce thing And I think you're like a very interesting

Participant in that Because it's like you do stand out in comparison To all of them But you bring your own flavor to it And you also fit in very well in that Right So shit, he just been bawling Buying a whole bunch of cars

my fall I'm the lighter thief that's all right it's like fire no jumper lighter I would be happy for you to thief this from Josh he just been buying a whole bunch of cars and dropping a whole bunch of music and shit recording a whole bunch of music and just been shit yeah

how much time you guys spend together you guys kick it all the time yeah yeah we kick it with we be working so much this shit it'd be a lot of time where shit we all don't be with each other you feel me but hey yeah any any time that we're in houston we link up every night you remember but yeah he's just been he's just been buying a whole bunch of crazy and shit like a whole bunch of jewelry a whole bunch of cars been buying his artist shit been signing new artists right all that shit is he only fans rich um I don't want to say only

fan's rich because he's been rich before only fans right but it seems like he's out of here moving and shaking in the only fan world he definitely he definitely is making a big big bag off only fans making a big bag up only fans yes does he manage girls on there or what not that i don't know you're getting in that world no you know that you're ready for it uh no i just don't go for with this shit no too new in the game he'd been around long enough that he can not my flavor slip and slide on over there too it's not my flavor you were never pimping girls back in the day i feel like it's a new version of that uh i mean i didn't i didn't i didn't got some money from from from from some chicks you know what i'm saying but

That's just not my flavor. You feel me? Like, my, my flavor is that, you know what I'm saying? Them bust it up, those and windows, you feel with me? You know what I'm saying? I feel you. On their porch and getting it in. It's been a long time since you did a kick, though?

Not that long. No, it definitely been a while. I haven't did a kick, though, because I was probably like 16. Okay. Yeah. Are you, like, very conscious of staying out of trouble at this point, though? Like, at this point, it just feels like, you missing out on a few days where you could be like you can make a lot of money in three days doing

versus doing shows like it's not right now shows but recording all this shit like it feels like a way bigger sacrifice for you to get caught up now yeah yeah yeah like I don't I don't fuck around at all I just straight rap that's it straight rap record go out of town get fly do video suits right my whole day consistent music other than that Family. That's it. Music and family. Family, music, music, family, family, music. They smoke a lot of weed, I'm saying? Right. That's smoking this shit. What you smoking? You got no limit weed right here, which I think is pretty interesting. It literally has the ghetto D logo on it. I don't know.

Just the ghetto D, you know what I'm saying? Is this Master P's weed? He's still serving? This is Check Boy Stacks weed, what I'm saying? You feel me, geto D? I'm saying made by packeting, you know what I'm saying? I'm saying, I got some weed, you know what I'm saying? Hard as I ever, you feel me? What I'm saying? I'm saying you can roll this up. Oh shit, we can roll this up?

That's you right there. That shit looks good. Is this indica? The shit is it dark? Shit gonna get me stupid hard. Indica or is it inica? Hybrid. Hybrid.

Get O.D. Get O.D. Yeah. You ever think about having your own weed strain? Yeah, I actually got it on the way. Really? Yeah, yeah. What's going to be different about it?

You're just going to have a fucking craziest peso-p peso cartoon on the outside? Hardest Zaza ever. I like that. And I got Taco Truck coming soon, too. Hardest tacos ever. She thought I had my leg up in her. I always mentioned that lyric. I'm always like, yo, that is one of the craziest things I ever heard somebody say.

Oh, that's too bad. So let me ask you this, bro, because I don't get into the beef stuff normally, but you guys got this song out, and I feel like it's one of the hardest songs I heard from you in Soss in a minute. Like, I've really been banging that song, even though I got no issues with the people talking about in the song, et cetera. How did that song come about? Okay, so, I'm going to tell the exact truth how that song came about.

Okay. Because I remember fluently because it was the other day. Sauce, going off Acapella for like two minutes. He always does that. Crazy. Well, him always do it like this rapper, but, you know, he really, he really, with the Acapella. Alright, so,

shit, we was in a studio all night doing what we do, chilling, recording, chopping it up, talking business, whatever, whatever, smoking, vibing, gang banging, whatever, bullying, and around like four or five in the morning, I was actually gonna leave and go pull up on one of my home boys, for I went to the house. house. But when I got my car, that nigga walks in me and said, hey, where you going? I was like,

I'm going to go to the aisle. I'm going to go pull up on bro. Yeah, let's rap, bro. Let's rap again. Let's do a song. Like, damn. I like, fuck, come on. We got rap right now, though. You feel me? Because, you know, we were recording that. It'd be a whole bunch of people where they record. Everybody trying to get on it. If you didn't get on it, somebody else is getting to get on it. Well, it's not that. It's like four rooms. So all of them. All the rooms be, they be, people be in there record.

So I was like, shit, if we're gonna record, we got record right now. So I went in there and shit, I popped that bitch off. But I just popped it off on something. You feel me?

I was just, you know what I'm saying? Like, I wasn't on no straight dissing shit, you feel me? Like, I was just rapping, you feel me? And, you know what I just threw

a little, through a couple punches in there, you feel me? And then Braids did the same shit and then after the Walker came in that hole and just slammed that. Well, see,

walk, his verse when I was gone, you know what I'm saying? So he walked, walked her into a whole disc record, you feel me? Right. So you didn't know it was going to turn into that, basically? I didn't know, well, I mean, I knew what I said, and I knew, I knew what I said was going to be, you know what I'm saying?

I knew what I knew what that was going to do, but I ain't know it was going to be a whole, like, did, like, line for line, this record, I didn't know, because I would have, I'm not saying I would have said my I'm not saying my verse would have been different but I mean it probably would have been a little different I'm saying but yeah would you have gone harder would you have like because you know if you had recorded it after hearing sauce going this fucking tirade I would definitely went way harder than that right way harder than what I did I thought it was pretty dope but like but like I'm talking not not not far as hard like fire like harder as like I would have said more shit you know what I'm saying right but it's cool to

because shit, at the end of the day, shit, I don't even, I'm not like, I don't even, like, how I say this. That's not even my type of rap anyways. So, it's, yeah, because it's, it's like, you got to be. Like, the way I spilled this shit, that's the way peso spilled this shit, you know what I. Right. No, that is what I like to thought, because you did just kind of get smooth on it for the beginning of it.

Like, that song just keeps increasing in intensity so much. Like, it's, like, I like what you did, but then by the end of it, with Saas's doing that shit, it's just like, wow this is one of my favorite rap songs i heard in a while right like like like it's like yes yeah i see what you're saying that was intense i'm right you also said that um wild kate's perks but you say it's the same as juice yeah is that a constant argument with you guys uh it's not an argument it kind of it's not an argument but it's definitely a debate and um and shit he don't he don't believe it though but he would never know because he never took a perkinset

before never took one never wow he never took no pills before so he would never know that's crazy that's good lean is basically just like a way more expensive delicious version of taking pills right that's right it's like slowed down like you take a pill all at once and you drink lean it's like bit by bit right right right like I feel like like the pill is like right there like like it's it's like hit you like boni like probably hit you faster and a little hard you feel right but shit it's like at the end of the day it's still an opiate You know what I'm saying? He's just trying to give you advice.

You think he's on his good dad shit right there trying to get you to stay away from it? Yeah. I mean, I don't know good dad shit, but he on some big brood shit, you get me. He's on some big bro shit, you get on some, like, you get me? Right. But not even, like, he's just saying, like, he just be saying it ain't the same thing. Right. Yeah.

You got to. I don't be trying to make them pop pills, though. Right. Like, I don't be trying to, like, get them on pills and then. Yeah. I've never tried to like do that. Perks the only one you fuck with you on, Duzanza's shit.

Whenever he says like, whenever he'd be like, when he says like, whenever he's, whenever he talks down the perks, I'm, what I'm trying to say is like shit, y'all tell this nigger man this shit just like drink, man. But, okay, you got to be in a very specific state of mind to do a diss on though.

Like what actually pushed sauce to the point where he really wanted? to go in on Goe Yale. Like what actually took it to that level? Go Yale. So he dropped the track first. Yeah, he dropped the disc record first. It was just, yeah, my fault.

Yeah, Go Yale, dis first. Go Yale dropped the first disc rookie. Right. Oh, so it was like a natural reaction at a certain point? Yeah, and he'd been like saying like all type of lies on the internet shit. Like what? Like, lies. I can't even remember.

a whole bunch of bullshit. Trying to basically say, like, we ain't step around the U.S. like we step around the U.S. Not just Texas because Texas is ours, you feel me? But, you know, little hook shit, you know what I'm saying? Right. So that whole beef just comes from what?

Like him having issues of people that you're associated with or was there ever anything directly between you two? Oh. No. That's it between them to. Oh, it's... Between... But shit.

You beat for one of us, you beat for the other of us, so... Right. I'm saying? That's how we rock. For sure. How do you feel the fans are reacting to it? Is the reaction to that song kind of crazy? Or a lot of people enjoying it as much as me?

The fans love bullshit. Ain't that the truth? Yeah, so shit. The fans love bullshit. So you don't get a fuck. Okay, so when you make a song going at somebody else, are you kind of aware that this? is something that you're doing that is

partially because the fans are going to fucking love it even if, because like some might say that certain people like you guys might choose to handle your shit off wax most of the time. I mean there's certainly one way to handle it. Nah. No, sir.

You don't get down like that anymore. Respect. Do you feel like this war of words is going to keep going? Uh-uh. It's over? He's demolished. flawless victory you feel like that's how the fans feel yeah all right you ain't see walk said that he said that he says a flawless victory and all that he said flawless victory

okay is it like anybody that they have issues with you i accidentally uh hit the side of my uh hit the side of the flow my alexander McQueen well you just started cleaning it off no no oh you quick look uh uh uh Laura hit you with the who I'm ready. So you feel like that's how the fans are viewing it too, though? That was kind of one-punch knockout type thing? Yeah, like, that shit over with. If he fired back, you're not going to come back at him again?

I don't even do this rap. Right. Like I said, that was just like some... I was in the studio. I just wrapped a little 12, and they turned out into a mega-ditch song. Right. That's it. Like, why not?

Yeah, like, I don't even do disc raps. Like, I wouldn't go to the studio and do it and make another, like, make a disc song and put it out. Like, I just, I'm going to keep getting this money, you feel it me, keep, keep grinding, shining, you know what I'm saying? Keep dropping these projects, keep, uh, and getting this big boy Jerry, you know what I'm saying? You cash down these cars, yeah. For sure. Yeah. Are you happily independent, or are you still talking to labels?

Or how's that going? No, I'm independent still. Well, I'm still with TSF, but majorly I'm independent. I'm talking to labels, though. Label's still crawling, but it's just, you know, we're independent. We have to be independent until somebody come with some crazy shit that we can't refuse. But, you know, I'm trying to, if anything, I'm trying to get into, like, some partnerships, you feel me? Mm-hmm.

What kind of advice does Walk give you? you in that regard, because, you know, he's obviously had the opportunity for many years to try to be some big major label type artist or whatever. I'm sure he's had plenty of offers. Yeah, exactly. He just tells me why he's never signed and tells me the reason. It tells me, like, what these labels and tensions are the most of them. You feel, me?

And that's why you got to watch who you fuck with it, and you really can't. And basically, that's why he don't fuck with nobody because shit. He knowing, like, you know what I'm saying? And he got the game, so shit. Yeah, that's why. That's why I haven't jumped head first and signed a deal early in my career. I could have been signed a deal. Take that small check, though, and then, like, you lose control, everything you got going on.

Yeah, it just ain't worth it. Definitely. Never neg anything. Yeah. When sauce is beefing with thug and all them, how do you proceed? You don't really hop in on that? Or like, what's the attitude about it?

I don't really got no attitude about it. Shit. But is that like a beef that you feel like you should hop in on because that's who you're assigned to? Or you just let him handle that? No, I'm just down with anything my brother's down with. You feel me? Like, you know what I'm saying?

I'm not fend to get on the internet and start, you feel me? Start popping shit that nigger there. You know what I'm saying? Right. Anything my brother with, I'm with, you know what I'm saying? Shit. T.S. We're with the Army, you know what I'm saying?

Uh-huh. Shit. Do you think that that shit is good for business or bad for business overall? Because it's like, you know, obviously the fans are tuning in, paying attention to that shit. Well, I'll be, I mean, it just depends. It's good for business and it's bad for business. Mm-hmm. You know what I'm saying?

Some people might know what book you. They feel like there's me violence. It's not. Yeah, it's just. Sometimes it can block the money, you know what I'm saying? Right. It can block the money, man. It definitely can block the money, shit, sure.

But shit, it ain't blocking the money to where niggas ain't, niggas having too much. It's blocking, it's just blocking certain money. You feel it me? Right. Block a certain little opportunity, but it's all, boo. For sure. Why are you calling yourself the salsa God now?

And not with, not with thug, but I'm saying with beef, period. Everything in general. Right. What are you saying? I noticed you're calling yourself the salsa god now. Yeah. Where'd that come from? I dropped the mixtape called the salsa god. Right, yeah. I'm just like thinking about that. I'm like salsa is a big part of the culture that people don't really talk about enough, you know?

So shit, I'm the salsa god, you feel? me, walks to drip good. I'm the salsa good. You hear of me? I drip salsa, you know what I'm saying? I'm Mexican. Shit. T.S. Only Mexican rapper. So shit. Yeah, I'm dripping in salsa.

White people love salsa They love saying salsa You probably didn't watch Seinfeld But there's a clip of Jerry talking about how white people Or no, just people in general just love saying salsa. Right Dude, you got to sample that on a song

Oh my God It would be so good I definitely will What do we need to know about Mexican food in general though Like somebody like me that's kind of On the outside of the culture I'm hitting the taco trucks But like what is the really crucial Mexican food

that people really need. First off, do you put avocados in your tacos? I don't think they really ever offer, so no. You need to do that. Right. What do you eat chicken or feeders? I'm more of a carneasada kind of guy, you know. I think you should always eat steak when you have an opportunity to a...

I love carniazada, but... When you have an opportunity, why would you choose chicken, you know? I love avocados. You gotta try that shit. Oh, yeah. Well, I've had an avocado or two on my desk. But try to eat, but eat it on your, eat in the back because you're going to do this shit. So, you don't eat it, you don't.

This is going to be the intro to your mix of it. That's hard. It must be impossible for a Spanish person to order salsa and not get salsa. You have the salsa? We're going to get copyrighted this all right. Yeah, we got salsa. Yeah, we got salsa. That's my second mixtape.

Right. That's fire. Amen. I don't know. I just like, certain times you just see a rap nickname and you're like, you know what?

That's the one. Salsa God. I don't know. I'm fucking with it. Yeah, yeah. Thorthias. I love Thorthias. What else I eat?

I eat everything, really. You can't miss me when I ate all that shit. Right. I ate all that shit. For sure. You know, I thought it was a fun. My favorite. guess it is and tacos you know i thought it was a pretty good line how you the king of texas

you can get sugar in your tank i don't know why that's just like a because like saying somebody got some sugar in the tank that was like an old man phrase that i just appreciated when i heard you bust that out i don't know where'd that come from who told you to spit such heat I was just freestyling. For sure. I was freestyle. You know, I'm hard at that freestyle game. I don't know right.

That's true. Okay. So what else we need to know in terms of shit that you got on the way? Anybody you're working with that you're excited about? Any new projects you're hyped up, Ma? Hey, yeah, bro. This next mixtape is going to be fucking crazy. I got hella features on there.

I, well, my first mixtape I had a hell of features. My second one, I had like three. This one is just dropped. I had a couple. This one is going to have a lot, though. I usually don't have a lot. Because my first one had a lot of features, so my last one,

they really been having, like, a lot of features. But this one, it's going to be a lot of people on there. And just because lots of want to put this music, it's fire and the music out, you feel, me, A-Sep, because it's just too hard.

Right. They've been in my nose. I've been jamming it too long. I'm going to put it out. I need the un-release. need this because like it's very rare i'll always listen to an artist a shitload before i interview them and then after i interview them i'm just not listening to it for a while but i'm i'm actually going to get back in the car and keep listening to the same tape that i was listening to on the way here

so that's a strong cosign right you feel me um okay anything else we need to know about uh we're going to smoke this ghetto d as soon as we done josh is rolling that ghetto d up pause um shoot this hella songs hella videos um i'm cranking on my label hardest ever en t um you're gonna be you you you fin to see a whole whole whole bunch of people on um coming out you know what I'm saying as far as my brother Julo you feel me um my nigga stacks you feel me um yeah yeah and plenty more you feel me What's up? Drippy.

How Drippy doing? Drippy. Drippy's going in, man. He's in Houston. I'm fascinated by Drippy, man. Sure. Ever since you got that Pikachu on his face, I've just been, like, the biggest drippy fan.

He been going up. Yeah, I'm going to see this on a story, too. Now, when I saw he had the Hitler tattoo, that really blew my mind. He got O.J. Simpson, Monty Burns. Everything. Anyway. Peso, Peso. He out here.

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