No Jumper - The Peysoh Interview: Seeing His Father Murdered at 6, Being On The Run, Pill Addiction & More

Episode Date: November 22, 2021

Peysoh recently sat down with Adam for this interview just a few days before getting arrested in LA. Peysoh talks about his rough upbringing, seeing things no kids should see, trying to make a life for himself with music and more. ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumper. Coolest podcast on the world. And today I got a young man who's on the rise, absolutely killing shit in the city. Right now, it's the one and only peso. How you doing? What's the deal, man? I appreciate you having me. Yeah, I'm excited to have you on here, man. We got a little glimpse of you when we did the Trappzilla interview. You came and pulled up on the screen for a little bit. But I'm glad to get in here for a deeper conversation. Yep. How's everything going?

Shit, it's going good. It's going good. Life's good. You got a lot of chains for a young man. No, just a little son for now How does someone get that many change at such a young age? I got them when I first barely popped off, so I even got some new shit. You bought them all at once? Yeah.

Really? How many? We were looking at like four? That's an easy four. Yeah, four. And you bought them all when you first started getting money off music? Yep. Really?

Blue that motherfucker. How much? It's not even worth saying. Blew that motherfucker. But that's not like, You're not signed, right? It's complicated. Okay, but so was it like you got a big advance check?

Or are we just talking about you got money off of your YouTube or whatever? I got my advance and I blew it on chains. Oh, okay. Yeah, I ain't mad at that. You got to do what you got to do sometimes. What's done is done. Now you just got to make another advance or another bag. Yeah, I was just, you know, it was just a lot of money at once.

I was like, what should I get? I get changed. How old were you when you first popped off? I was early 17. Okay. early 17 and you had never really had money like that before so you just went crazy uh yeah yeah like you know we was getting money like how we was getting money but like to get like a lot at once yeah yeah to get a lot at once and not had to like you know what I'm saying yeah it was it felt good so

you know when you got money like how we got money you had to go pon your chain after a while you got to go so I was just like I don't got a pond these boom just go spend that shit and you went gold with it too huh yeah that was just a style you always appreciated Yeah, like it like it like for us like the homies and shit like herniggas. You got big gold chains like oh yeah he's getting to it right like he got money How old are you now 18 19? No I'm still 17 still 17 okay so tell me a little bit about you being a young man in Mayworth because or Maywoods sorry Jesus Christ they're gonna kill me for that

Being from over there because they're saying that this is like a section of LA that I guess that there hasn't been a lot of rappers from over the years And there ain't actually been any. Right. Uh, I don't know. I didn't even, like, try to blow up. It just happened type shit. Really? Yeah, like, I ain't even try to blow up.

Like, um, I shot that video in August. Right. So, I was six, I was 16 and a half. Uh-huh. I turned 16, and I wasn't even trying to blow up. You just wanted to shoot a video and figured it would be some regular shit? I just shot a video. I just shot a video and, uh, because like I said, uh, Sway was like, getting ready to turn himself in.

Right. So it was August and I had just shot a video because I made Six Block. I made that song. Right. And everybody was like, it's a banger. You shoot a video to it. And I'm like, man, fuck rap. Like, I ain't worried about rap right now.

Like, I'm trying to figure it out because, you know, I was dropped out. You know, I didn't really have like, you know what I'm saying? I wasn't, I didn't, I didn't figure it out. I knew I wasn't going to get no job, shit like that. So. You thought you were going to be a street. dude for the rest of your life? Yeah, for sure.

Pretty much. End up going to the county and then going up stay and then just, you know. Are you kind of excited to see what the county was like? Hell nah. I wasn't excited to even to be in there. I was just, but I knew that's what like, in my head that's what I, oh, I'm destined for that. I wasn't going to work no regular-ass job.

But let me, let me ask you this. Is like, do you feel like that that is all that you ever, like, considered? Like, did you never even, like, realize that you could be something bigger than just another statistic getting locked up? shit no not really like that's all i really like thought about like just that that's what i was destined to be you know right that's what i thought my cards were like you know you know how like some people have like a fucked-up-ass life yeah i thought oh shit i'm just i just got those cars like do you think for those who don't know you uh were there at the i mean i guess you could tell us

about it if you want but you saw your father murder when you were six yeah yeah six you think that sort of like painted your your vision of what was possible in life and It painted the rest of my life for sure. Not yet for sure. It did. Because I was supposed to die that night. They were supposed to kill you too. And you're six.

I was six, yep. What was your dad into that there would be people who were supposed to kill him and his child? My dad was a regular-ass man, believe it or not. Really? Yep. My dad was a regular-ass man. He was a hard worker.

And so why would people want to do this to him? I don't know. Really? Yep. I mean, I just feel like, you know, regular-ass people don't often have people going out of their way to kill him and especially if they're like how did you know that you were supposed to be killed as part of that because i was they had us both like in in the room

oh type shit yeah and so do you remember this clear as day or is it kind of blurry after all these years no that shit clear as day and how did you get away from the situation he did like uh like he went like he was big as fuck he was like six-wife like he was big as fuck and he was like he was a bodybuilder too wow he was big as fuck And so they was like, how old were they? They were young. One of them was like 18. And another one was like, I don't remember, but they were both young.

So he was kind of older already too. So he had that grown manpower. So when he got up, like he was, you know what I'm saying? He's big. So this was just like a robbery at first? They just were trying to take shit out the house? That's not even a robbery because I done robberies and it ain't never went like that. Right.

Or we don't, you know what I'm saying? They don't ever. But they didn't know who your dad was prior to this. Shit, I don't know. You know what I'm saying? I don't know. I don't know. I was only six.

I don't really know. You know what I'm saying? I didn't go through my dad's phone, none of that shit. I don't know, so. Right. I mean, I realized how important it was to you when I heard you mention it over and over in different songs,

and I heard you, like, your first big song. Like you fully mentioned it. Like, you weren't going to come out and tell people that this is you without all the things. explaining that that was part of what made you who you are. Yeah, that shit changed me a lot because, like after that, everything just went, like, sideways, you feel me, like behavior problems, you know, lots of focus and a lot of stuff.

Like, I couldn't sit in class, I was jumpy all the time, like, you know, you feel me, I've seen my dad, like I hurt the shots, like I've seen everything. Like, I didn't just, you know, they'd be like, oh yeah, I've seen the homie get killed. Now, you hurt the homie get killed. the homie get killed. No, I seen my dad get killed. Like, it wasn't like, like, I saw everything type of shit. So does your mom or is the school trying to, like, put you in therapy or, like, get you help at that time to deal with the fact that you would dealt through this? At first, I was getting a lot of passes. Like, I didn't culminate fifth grade. I got kicked out for, you know, just being a badass little kid. I took, you know, knives to school. Like, me and we had actually caught my first case in fifth grade. Like, not my first case, but, you know, I'm not my first case, but,

they put me in like like a social worker I had all types of shit on me like like like it was because I mean it was it was stupid like it was stupid like right it was it was it's stupid as fuck like but they were worried about you yeah for sure like I didn't it wasn't even like a case like it was just like I got caught with like you know how they don't play like getting caught with like right so but some kid end up getting poked and they caught me with the knife But, you know what I'm saying? So it was just stupid. And, you know, obviously, I already knew the code at a young age.

I didn't say nothing. So I just, I took the rap for it. You know, they didn't really, like, tell us, they didn't really tell us anything like, because he didn't get stabbed. He just got, like, scraped type shit. Okay. So then I ended up getting kicked out after me

and my little brother beat some kid up. Be some kid up. we got kicked out. And then after that, it just, I ended again, like, I got kicked out of eighth grade, too. I had dropped out, but then with that whole therapy shit, and then plus this new shit called No Kid Left Behind, they ended up just passing me to ninth grade.

And from ninth grade, just, I went to jail and all the types of shit. Damn. How'd your mom deal with it? She kind of, like, already seen it coming type of shit. And it went, like, she hurt my, my, charged she was just like what the fuck like but you know your charge was for stabbing somebody no no in ninth grade oh okay yeah a different charge no hell no i got a uh it was a attempt it was all touch the shit was like a big ass case right it was big as fuck yeah because i

when i'm watching videos about everything with you the you know i don't want to go into a ton of detail but yeah they definitely make it out like you were on some wild ass shit at a very young It was big. It was a big case. And I was, uh, it happened like, like right after school type shit. So it, all that shit went into play. Yeah, they charged me with, uh, men's society, public endangerment, all types of shit. It was, it was big. It was wild. Right. And at the time, when I was 15, this was what? No, was I 15 or 14? I don't remember, but at the time, we didn't have that, uh, all these new, like kids can't get juvenile in our life now. Like, we didn't have all that shit so I was facing some time right and I remember I was an LP in S-1 which is high-risk

offenders and shit and it was doing riots and all types of shit it was going crazy with the how does that even happen though like the older dudes in the in the cell or whatever are telling you that there's gonna be a riot and you're like well fuck it I'm getting down too no hell not we was all facing we was all like getting ready to go up to the compound and shit all of us so we like shit we're not going just like that the fuck like we're gonna be in here like for a long as time might as well have fun so when a supervisor from over there came to to talk to us like to tell us all right this was going to happen is woo-woo we we packed them out oh my god and how much additional trouble do you get in for that uh yeah it was just like a

it wasn't but they hit us back though so it wasn't like they hit us back right so like it was It was our unit plus, like, I think, one more unit, X, X right next to us. I don't know, what was it called X? Yeah, X1 and X2, I think that's what it was called. Right next to we were the last units there. Right. So we were like the last kids there, so, like, I don't know. Like, they fought back with us type of shit.

Like, they were slamming us, macing us on the floor. Like, they did us dirty, too. So it kind of like just, like, we, we, there's cameras. Like, you see where you got that blue? like shit right there right there cameras right there cameras right there we threw shirts over the cameras so they didn't really see wow so it was all word against theirs and we had like beat up marks too we're like man the cameras were closed look the fuck like they they did us we were self-defense i feel like you covering the camera kind of makes you like automatically guilty yeah but still like we did have bruises

though it's not like we beat each other up you yeah so so how long were you in there for this shit and how do you end up beating i was so so so funny funny thing is with that it it was only one witness I can't really speak too much but yeah so but point is no never came to court so I got really yeah wow does that feel like you have like a second lease on life because for a while no I went right back in right back to doing the same shit you were doing no as soon as I got out I went I went right back in I was on a run for like a month and then I ended up doing I ended up doing like another I was on the run for a month, I only went, I only went,

so they had already closed down Los Padrinos, which was my home juvenile hall. Okay. So all the other juvenile halls were packed. So like violations, gun charges, like shit like that, little bullshit, it was going home. So since I was violation,

because I cut off my house arrest, I only, I got out on house arrest again. So I ended up doing like a month and some change on home. So you cut the ankle monitor off? Yeah, I cut the monitor off because... And they still just let you out. Like, that's supposed to be like the worst thing.

Like, there's been rappers who did that and they got like five years, because that's what Fujianno's dealing with right now. He did that. I think they gave him five years. Yeah, so after that, like, I went, I was clean for a little bit, and then I started flocking again,

so I went back to jail on Christmas. Christmas Day, I went back to jail. I was trying to, you know, get some little money. On Christmas Day. Yeah, I went back to jail. to jail and I ended up coming home July, late July. Wow. You came home late July, then I started rapping.

Did six block. And so were you thinking like this is going to be something I'm going to do and then I won't have to go and get in trouble anymore? Rap? Yeah. Hell not. I was still fucking around. Were you even thinking about the money side of things?

Hell not. No, you just wanted to rep your shit. Yeah, I didn't have like no, I didn't really have like no like guidance. So I didn't, I didn't. And plus, like when I did. did like rap. It wasn't no managers or no nothing like that to be like and you have talent or like you know what I'm saying it was just like a little bullshit studio. There's a much of little kids with guns in the alley.

Exactly like we were just like fucking around like we wasn't even like I didn't even really think oh yeah it's gonna be a way out right I wasn't thinking like that hell no I was thinking like well the people you have problems when the street might see this and and see what you're really on right we're not even not fuck that no hell we're not worried about none of that I was just like Swade was just like, oh, come do this song real quick. Swade helped you make that first song. Yeah, like he got me in the studio. Like, he was like, man, you got to get off the streets.

Like, you, you know? Right. But isn't the irony of, like, you trying to get out the streets and then also making a video where you're talking about a bunch of crazy shit, you got guns in the video. Obviously, the cops are going to see it. And then obviously the cops are going to, even if you're not, like, actively breaking the law right then,

they're going to see that video and they're going to all of a sudden have a big-ass target on you. Yeah. Even before that. They've seen it. They pulled you over and they knew your name immediately and shit. Yeah, no, yeah. Well, they've been knowing me since I was a little-ass boy. So it ain't nothing new.

Like us in Maywood, we don't got no police department. Right, because they defunded it. They defunded it a long last time ago. So we got sheriffs, and they know me, sheriffs and gang unit. That's all we got. So they'd be all up on the block. Really? They're around all the time.

You're like constant presence? Yeah. Wow. That's crazy. So do you feel like the cops are, you know, horrible to you and your people? or do you feel like they're dealing with a very hard situation and that they're relatively reasonable? Like, how bad are they?

They're relatively reasonable. They are decent? Hell yeah. Like, they cool, like, they cool, but they just, like, you know what I'm saying? We do be doing a lot, too, though. Yeah. So they do, like, you know what I'm saying? I guess for the safety of the people.

But have you seen cops do, like, terrible shit to people that you love, like beating the fuck out of them and all this stuff that... Nah, hell not. Really? I haven't seen that. Hell no. Interesting. Shit.

Hell, I'm a, what? Fire on the cop. Don't do that to me, because I'm a juvenile. I'll beat that case. I don't do that to me. I'm going to suck your ass right back. But you're not going to be able to use that juvenile card for much longer, huh? Yeah.

The day you turn 18, you got to clean up your act. I'm on a run right now. Oh, right, yeah. I heard. So when do you have to turn yourself in? Well, I mean, you're on the run, so whenever you can. Catching. Damn, so how long you've been on the run for?

Hold on, I got the messages. And what are you supposed to turn yourself for in for at this point? Uh... Both of the rappers I interviewed today are on the run from the law for the record. Uh, shit. They're trying to hit me with some bullshit, but... Like, as far as it goes, it was like, it's just some bullshit, it's just, it's some bullshit. But still, they're trying to give me, they're trying to give me some time.

I'm gonna lie. Hmm. How do you feel about that when you feel about that when you're just, it's just, it's just, it's some bullshit. you think about that when you the idea of doing a couple years uh that's just sucks you know back then i didn't give a fuck you know but now and they got money bitches all types of shit right you kind of don't even i don't want to give that up you know yeah right like you but the shit that they're mad at you about is stuff that probably happened before you started out money and shit yeah yeah yeah yeah for sure yeah damn yeah because i mean now you're seeing things

You're seeing what the possibilities are, right? Now you're starting to be around bigger rappers. You're seeing what these sold-out shows are like. Seeing what the bag looks like, what the streaming checks start to look like. Yeah. Fuck. That should be crazy.

For sure. But are you at risk, like if you turn yourself in, are you confident that they're going to treat you like a juvenile? Or are they going to treat you like an adult because it's so close and because you might have serious shit? I don't know. It just all depends. It just all depends on like how, like, it plays.

plays out like weird like I don't know I don't know how it's gonna play out right you don't never know like what you in our cases like it just either takes a turn for the best or the worst you don't you don't never know right fuck um so what are you trying to do like what's the most important shit for you to do in terms of your career and stuff right now while you're you're still free like are you just recording like crazy obviously an interview makes sense I ain't even been recording what's you even doing but but like like I mean I'm not like, I'm not like worried about it, worried about it because with the whole like, because it already, I caught the case as a juvenile.

So no matter what happens, I'm not getting charges in the dog. I know for a fact. Plus with all this new law shit going on, COVID, all types of shit. Like, my car got a body and he got eight months. Really? They found him guilty of murder? Yeah, juvenile though. Oh, okay.

Geez A camp program It's really like Like 12 months Good behavior You come home in eight months Have you always felt like you were really Desensitized to violence?

What you mean? Like you've seen enough violent shit at a young age That it just doesn't really affect you The way that it does with normal people Yeah like it just don't Like it just make your like fight or flight A little bit more like trigger fast Like you're just more precautions, paranoid

All that shit Right Like not like I wouldn't say like that big as word you use, I don't know what that meant. Desensitized. Yeah, that shit. You know, like, you're born sensitive.

You know, you're a baby. Somebody makes a loud noise. You start crying. Then all of a sudden you're like 18 and you see somebody get killed in front of you and you like, I mean, that's the definition of being desensitized. Yeah, yeah, for sure. But like, yeah, no, that shit do make you like, ooh shit. Like any little thing.

Ooh, what the fuck. Right. Did you find yourself resorting to violence a lot or like very quickly when you were young? Like if somebody pissed you off, you would just be so quick to fire on? Yeah. Yeah, because of my dad, my pops, though, though. Like, because of that, though.

It wasn't because of, like, I was trying to be active. It was really because of my pops, you know? Yeah. Yeah, for sure. It wasn't, like, no, I'm going to try to be the biggest bully or... Nah, it wasn't no shit like that. Hell not. It was just, like, no, I didn't have no pops.

Like, do you still feel like you deal with anger issues? Like, you have a hard time with your temper and shit? Hell, yeah. I'm trying to work on it, though. Like, I'm trying to work on it. Because, like, in this industry, that shit and not get you booked. that shit or not. Like, I don't already, like,

fucked up a lot of shit, you know? Really? Hell, yeah. Like, so I'm trying to, like, work on that a lot. Because, you know, you do, like, in this industry and in this world of music, you do deal with a lot of, like, slow people, a lot of, like, you can't just be, what?

Quick to fight on something, you know, you. Right. They'll be like, oh, yeah, we're not fucking with him. He a liability or he, this, this, this. So I kind of, like, I'm trying to change that for show. Yeah. Definitely. It becomes essential over time. You hear about people all the time where it's like little things will happen at their shows or whatever and they're kind of blacklisted or just have a hard time getting opportunities just because of some dumb shit they're involved in one time. Yeah. No, yeah, for sure. Yeah, my goal now is like, you know, to be like, you know, from our race, a big artist not to be the biggest gangster. Like that's not what I'm going for.

I realize that also honestly with the shoreline back in the day because we would be at their shows to playing these huge shows for time. 10,000 fucking people and shit. And then all of a sudden, the homies are getting into a fight backstage. And I would be going to get it on my story, just not thinking twice about it, thinking, like, oh, it's a fight and I'm going to put it on my story. And I'd have people from the label and shit, like, diving on top of me, like, no, don't post that, don't post that because they didn't want Shirline to get the reputation for being violent and shit.

So that makes a lot of sense to me now, even though it probably should have been sense to me then, too. Yeah, no, yeah, that's definitely what I do want to go for, like, you know, be cool. like definitely so okay tell me what it was like when you started getting the reaction to six block where do you just put it up on youtube and then all of a sudden it starts going crazy shit yeah honestly like with all honesty i swear to god i'm not lying i put it up and it went crazy right like it just did his thing like at first i put it up and like you know what i'm saying because i ain't gonna lie i was a bully in school i'm not gonna sit here and be like i wasn't i wasn't I was a bully, like my deans hate me, all that shit.

Like they tell you, like, you know, I was a bully and shit. And, uh, cause I never kicked it with like kids my age. I always had older homies and shit. Right. So, you know, with them slapping on me. And plus like, you know, getting, like, you know, with older homies. So I always had like a more advanced squabble. Right.

So I would go into like school and like, you know what I'm saying? If anybody were fucking with you, you'd be quick to pop up. No, not even that. Just, I just, I was. be on purpose like I was a bully I was like an annoying kid I ain't gonna not to you like so at first they was like man he bushed he bushed he but like you know what I'm saying like yeah he's not gonna grab nah nothing you know what I'm saying a bunch of bitches too because I was I was mean to bitches too you're me and the girls yeah throwing milk on there and throwing you know what I'm saying

is the girls like you though were the kind of guy that girls were trying to be around no because look you see that's the thing though like at the time I wasn't going for like trying to be a pretty boy I didn't have clothes you feel me I didn't have like I had what I what I what you know flocking like yeah I did have you know what I'm saying but like now it's way different yeah so back then I wouldn't go for like the pretty boy like I wasn't trying to have bitches I wasn't trying so all I cared about was violence and money but how does that make you feel about women as a whole that they weren't interested in you before you had shit and all of a sudden I ain't fucking no local bitches I'm I'm gonna be fucking under them hose that from my city even the

bad ones from when you were younger, if they wanted to fuck with you now, you're still not interested? I probably already hit. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's that nigga probably already smacked. So I'm not worried about it. Yeah. Because, I mean, that is kind of crazy, though. They're like, you know, their attitude on you could change so much just because you came out and got money.

Well, it was so changed. What? I don't have. Like, bitchy thought it was a joke when I first started doing this shit. Now they all, oh, like, oh, you rapping now? Like, oh, oh, I see you doing your thing. I always believe. Shut your bitch ass up.

Niggas smack you. Oh my God, that's hilarious. And you're still 17. This is like a grown man conversation. Like the conversation about like how girls were when you were in high school and stuff. Like you're still high school. Yeah. Nah, but like, damn.

A lot of bitches do be thinking I'm older though. And I do be lying today. But you're not actually still in high school, right? You stop going or? Yeah, I stopped going as soon as in ninth grade. Okay. And they're not trying to make you go back at this point. It's like the battle's over.

My PO just, well, shit, I got a new PO. She arrested my case. I got a new PO, and she was hard dealing with me. But I haven't even talked to him. I don't care what he's talking about. But, yeah, I ain't going back. So how did you deal with, like, the attention you were getting as soon as that video started blowing up?

All of a sudden, everybody in your neighborhood knows you get a million new Instagram followers, people talking about it. At first, it was like, I was doing my thing. like you know it was like left and right politics and then you know what I'm saying so but shit now everything's like everything's cool so you put that out and all of a sudden you're on the radar for like gang shit like all of a sudden people who didn't even know about you are like very concerned like who is this kid talking like this yeah sure yeah so did you have to kind of like make your allegiances in the street more clear at that point did you have to figure out exactly who you

were down with yeah I had to you know what I'm saying and that that was all smooth sailing the OGs wanted to embrace you oh yeah you've seen the people I was with when I came for the last interview right yeah so yeah so it kind of just stamped it like you know what I'm saying right so you feel like you're like well taken care of in that oh yeah for sure what beyond well taken care of so that's part of how you know trap no okay I knew trap I met him through Swifty. Right. At like a show or some shit, like

We Smoke Festival. I don't know what the fuck it was, but that's how I met him. Right. You met him smoking weed with him? Nah, it was a show. Yeah. And I don't know if he was a deed. I don't know. I don't remember exactly how like weed crossed, but yeah,

it was like through some show shit. You smoke weeds still though? Or, you know, whenever, like, they got it. I don't be like, I don't sit at home and be like, who got some tree for me? Like. But if you're around people and they're smoking 500 buntz, So you're going to hit it a million times? Yeah, for sure.

Yeah, for sure. Okay. You're not on papers right now. You don't have to do P tests or anything? Hell no, I'm on the run. Okay, good point. No, but yeah, so then it started like, I started going up, going up, going up, and then six blocks started catching, like, crazy.

They started doing that King of the Edgar bullshit. Oh, they started calling you that. Yeah, like King of the Eggers. So it kind of like, because, look, man, it's a funny-ass story. behind that bush like my hair I used to have long hair like I didn't have that cut I had I had long hair I had really long hair so when I went on the run I cut it off with like home at home though so you look different yeah so and I didn't have no tattoos no nothing like that and I was like at all the homies I was the only one that always had long hair okay so it was like oh yeah it's the one

with the come over oh it was the one with the come over Oh, it was one with long hair. Skinny long hair. So, oh, yeah, we're going straight to 56. You know where to find them. As soon as they said skinny long hair, they knew exactly who it was. They didn't care about it. It could have been the neighbor.

It could have been another skinny long hair. They're going straight to me every time. Right. So I got tired of that shit. I went on a run. And when I went on the run, I trimmed it down. And so it looked like, I didn't even know that that shit was going around because I didn't have Instagram.

I wasn't on Instagram. I didn't give a fuck about. social media I wasn't even cracking right so I wasn't on Instagram I wasn't doing that shit I've heard an Edgar described as a long shape-up yeah so it was like you know right and I was about to shoot a video so I'm like I gotta go to the barbershop and at least fix like you know so that's how it came out yeah because I mean your haircut is not that different from the normal haircut the dudes get it's just a little bit longer in the front and just overall like it's just not as short as motherfuckers you usually get it yeah yeah

So, uh, is that like a foo's gone wild meme? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, it, it was like a meme. And then, so they started like King of Edgar shit and they like made it go hard. But then like people were like, people would go to like, people would go to looking at it like and say, oh, we're about to clown them. But then they hear the song.

They'd be like, damn like, like, you spend some shit. So I started like going up, going up, going up. Song hit a million, then two million, then three million, then four million, now five million. So it just started catching it. But it went just like that. I didn't know nothing. Like, I started out zero followers. I made an Instagram because the song was picking up,

made Instagram, following, following, following. Right. And then it just went up fast. That's crazy. And you never thought about getting rid of the haircut, though. You were always committed to it? Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to grow my hair back because then it's just, it's going to take too long.

So I'm like, fuck it, just keep it. But I did trim it way more. I feel like it's just a popping haircut in general. Like, I can think of a bunch of different, like, Hispanic rappers who basically have that haircut and are popping. I mean, even if I went short as fuck, they'd still be like, oh, that's an egger, like, oh, my shit. It ain't even arguing no more.

I'm not, yeah, whatever, fool. Right. But so you really feel like you represent the Mexican community? And how important is that to you? I don't, look, that's the thing, though. Like, I do represent, I say I'm Mexican, everywhere I go. They know I'm Mexican. Right.

But, like, when you think of Mexican, you think about a Mexican rappers, you think about a Chicano rapper. I'm not a Chicano rapper. What's the difference to you? Like, they'd be like, like, like, like, I don't know how to explain it. Like, I don't rap about, like, like,

like, I know you've heard about Chicano rapper. I know what you know. Like, I'm not that, though. You're a, I'm a new generation. Yeah, you're a young L.A. Mexican rapper who doesn't necessarily feel like you want to be tied to all these different. I'm not a ballheaded long side baggy clothes.

Like, you know me? I'm a new generation, so I just feel like once the old heads get that through their head, they'll start like, like, you know what I'm saying? Fucking with it. You feel like you get respect from the older dudes already? I feel like you probably do, huh? Yeah, yeah, no, not yet, for sure. But I'm talking about, like, the Instagram older heads.

Yeah. But, like, that should be annoying. Like, as far as, like, huds and everything, they show stupid love, and I show stupid love, too. Like, I mean, I love, I love, too. You think food's gone wild is overall good or bad for the community? As far as from Mexicans, keep me away from that shit. You're not a fan?

Yeah, I'm like, I fuck with their, with their platform for sure. Like, it's funny. But they just, like, I don't know, they just fucked it up. Like, they just, like, I don't know. I feel like when you think about foods gone wild and they say, like, rate this food's flow,

one through 69, you start, like, they think that's just a joke. So, you know what I'm saying? Like, they think all that shit's a joke. And I don't think my race is a joke at all. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

I mean, I feel you. But at the same time, it feels like that kind of says a lot about the community that there are so many jokes that everybody in that community gets or are willing to think it's funny. You know, it kind of says a lot

about like the Mexican identity. You know, that motherfuckers have their own culture. They have all their own jokes and everything. They're like half the time when I'm looking at the Fuzgan Wild Post, I don't necessarily understand it. Yeah. I have to Google a word or some shit,

but, you know, is what it is. Um, okay. I wanted to... Okay, so that one thing I thought was really interesting about you, though, is that you didn't want to pop off young. That you actually were cautious about that. You kind of, like, felt like you were just going to pop off once you came out, so you actually wanted to wait. I wanted to wait. You could have came out when you were 13 or 14. You had music then?

I was fucking around with it. Yeah. Like, music always been a part of me. Like, I feel it in my soul and shit. So it was always something that I did want to do. but I didn't want to pop off this early though for sure. You still think it's too early? Hell yeah.

I'm grateful though don't get me wrong. Like I popped off. Hell yeah. Like shit who don't want to pop off. I'm grateful as fuck for it. But still, I feel like if I would have popped out, like when everybody else popped out, like, it would have just been way better. I would have had like way more shit because now I got like.

But I mean, I feel like, but I'm going to figure it out though. Like I know, like a little dirt when he did the this ain't what you He was so young, like, and now he's out here doing India or just, he even put it. He would have never ever in his life thought, oh, I'm gonna make India now. Like, you know what I'm saying? Because that's like one of the big rules of the music game is that you only get to be new once. Once you got to. There's only one time that they're looking at you for the first time.

So it's like, the question is, is like, do you want to do that when you're super young or do you want to wait to your older? But at the end of the day, being that new face, that new meme, potential to people where they're looking to you for the first time, that will always, like, be good for you, but then it's on you to continue to make good music. Nobody be talking about Dirk right now. Dirk is just like a million other dudes from Chicago, except he went crazy with the music and really, really got nice enough that he gave us a reason that we still got to talk about him, you know?

Yeah, he's hard as fuck. He's for sure hard. Not yet, but, I mean, I'm still like, I don't know. I feel like I kind of like separated myself. from the LA Sound though and everybody could agree with that. Like I don't sound like an LA rapper. Right. I picked up the North flow.

That's how you define it. Yeah, for sure. Who's the rappers that you listen to that you think actually influence your flow? Mazzie. Mm. Mm. Yeah, that is kind of your, your flavor.

It's like a young ass mazzi. Yep, and I already got two songs with him too. How'd you get introduced to him? Devo. Nice. Yep. I bet Mazzi took him. a liking to you. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. He's hard as fuck. And he'd be showing stupid love too.

Right. Yeah. He's definitely always been somebody's pretty good about supporting a lot of young talent and shit. Yeah, that's good to hear. Um, okay. So what, but in terms of like LA, like, was there anybody you were looking at on more local level to be like, okay, I see him making it. Maybe I can do it as well. Uh, no, I never like compare myself. Hell not. Like, because like I said, I wasn't thinking like I'm going to blow up off my first music video. That was my first music video and I blew up. So I kind of wasn't thinking like, oh, if he did it, I could do it too. The crazy thing about that video is like, you know, I'm so used to hearing young

rappers say gangster-ass shit and just not think it twice about it because I'm just so fucking jaded to it and just used to it. And I know they're all full of shit. I don't know what it is about that song that you just like say a bunch of menacing-ass shit. And it really sticks in your head. Like, oh, fuck, this is serious. I don't know what it is in my brain that I could, like, just tell

that it was coming from a real place. And then I watch your interviews, and I'm like, okay, I believe it even more now. Yeah, like, because I really wasn't, like, expecting to blow up or nothing. I was still, like, fucking up. I still, like, at that time, I was in a very dark place.

You know, I was off pills. You know what I'm saying? Like, you could tell my face now in that video, like, if you were to interview me right then, plus in an interview now, I look way different. I sound way different, like, you know. So I wasn't in a very dark place still.

Right. Yeah, you can really feel like, there's just certain things you say on there that, like, if you weren't angry about something, you probably wouldn't say, or at least it wouldn't come out as believable. Yeah, I was for sure, a thousand percent. I was still in a very dark place, so I was, you know, like, you know what I'm saying?

Like. Do you feel like just having some success and starting to realize that there is more hope for your life? Is that something that's been very helpful in terms of making you get into a better state of mind? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. Hell yeah. Yeah, because I got like, you know,

anxiety, PTSD, all that shit. So it did, like, fuck me up a lot. I know I have, like, very bad panic attacks, all types of shit. So, and, like, I got to the point where, like, I ain't going to lie, like, suicide was in my head a lot. Really? Like, I ain't going on to you.

Yeah, for sure. I ain't, like, like I said, I'm not here to be like, yeah, I'm the biggest gangstone field, shit. Yeah, killing myself, all types of shit, because I just felt like my car's, you know what I'm saying, I was supposed to die that night. Like, so, you know, I lost my soul that night already, too, you know, I saw my, my best friend, my dad get killed, you know? Yeah. And then we were both December babies, birthdays on the same week, so it was like, it took like a big, and I was with them

every day. So it, like, I lost my soul that night, so I was just like, as I got older, I kind of got like I will see like you know what I'm saying like family and I'll be like damn I'm hurt yeah I was in the streets and my mom was working she's trying to figure it out her damn self you feel me yeah because when my dad passed she was in school so she didn't even like wasn't stable herself so like as it right now like you know I got us you know I'm gonna make sure we straight but she work a teen job like right like I could go get hired right right right type shit yeah I mean, honestly, it's interesting that you use the word soul, like saying you lost your soul. Because on that same song, you say, 30 stick with a beam quick to catch me a soul.

And there's just something about the way that you say it that really just felt like, you know, like, it really felt something. And I noticed you're saying that you lost your soul that day. Like, in a way, is there a connection there where it's like that fucked you up so bad that you almost want to have that effect on somebody else? Like, it just make you not care. Like Like it just make you like Not care Like I don't know how to explain it

It's like a feeling Like A cop will tell you the same shit Like yeah that kid is bound to be a cold ass killer Like he is bound Like they could tell they sense it They see it Right

So I mean Jay you could tell off That video I had a P80 That goes a long way That tells you a lot Yeah In that video I had a P80 That's a ghost gun Right

Anything you drop it ain't coming back to you So you've been me like I was riding with that and I was in a rapper like I would tell you too like I was just you know I'm saying right so I was in a very like dark place pills all types of shit like when you think about all those decisions you're making though when your problem pills when you're sort of living in a certain way it's it's almost like you don't care about yourself right yeah like I like I said I didn't care about life like I didn't care I mean taking all those pills and shit it's it's not killing yourself but in the long run it's basically like having a similar effect you know

It's a slower version of that. Yeah, now I've been sober ever since. But, like, at that time, I didn't, I'm thinking, staring shit left me in this world. Like, I don't get about fuck. Like, I'm going to go crazy. Like, and then, you know, I lost my dad. So I was like, do what I got to do until I either get life or they kill me. Right.

You know? So. But do you feel like you're in a better place now where you see, you see what the- I'm seeing what life is, like, about now, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm starting to see, like. What a good life could be. be what what an adult version of you who's happy and has money and has a nice career like a life outside of like jail and streets and yeah is there a part of you though that's kind of gonna have a

hard time leaving behind the the area that you were raised up in and i mean people not not really like because i'm a forever stay tied into that shit like it's not it's gonna always be a part of me you know right that's that's what made me that's what kept me to survive that's you know what i'm saying taught me all my time me everything i know so i'm always like get back to my community on all that You know, all that shit, like, I'm going to still do all that. But as far as, like, not being paranoid and jumping and, hell, that shit ain't never going to leave. Right. And no matter what, like, I could go to the best therapist.

I could have the best securities. I'm still, like, hell not. Right. I'm saying? Definitely. Do you find it hard to connect with girls? Like, do you feel like you felt love from women? Like, it's hard.

Like, you guys, my manager, like, I don't be, like, if I'm in a room, with bitches, I'm not going to speak. I promise, I swear to God. Really? Until they speak to me. I promise, I swear to God. They like that, though? They like the strong and silent type?

I mean, I don't know. It's just like, I'm not used to that shit. I'm still not used to it. I'm not used to, like I said, I wasn't a pretty boy. And then I wasn't like trying to get at girls and nothing like that. Because I didn't look my best. I didn't, you know what I'm saying?

But so how do you now make sense of the very large number of women that I'm assuming are swimming up in your DMs trying to get piped down. Oh, I don't know. Like, a lot of, a lot of, a lot of girls say I look intimidating. Yeah, having a bunch of face tattoos at 17 could do that. No, not, like, and the shit that I rap about, I don't necessarily rap about having sex. No, it's pretty much the opposite of that.

Exactly. So they'd be like, oh, shit, like, you know what I'm saying? So. Girls love a gangster, though. I know, but then, like, you know what I'm saying? They'd be, like, think, they'd be thinking, like, I do, I used to when I was first blowing Like I said, when I was first blowing up, and I had my little followers and all that shit. I was wild and still.

I was still like, but you know what I'm saying? So, you got to be careful, though, man. I did come off. I did come off. I'm going to push the bitch wood. Hey, man, it's happened to better men than you or I. It's happened to real geez. For sure, for sure.

They want to get their dick wet and they get, you see, that's a thing, though. That's a thing though. I don't be like, I got my go-to's. I'm never thirsty. Like, I'm not there. There's net there. There's nothing in this world. And I'm not saying, look, never say never I pray to God.

It never happened. But I'm not, I think with my head, not my dick. That's good. Like, there ain't, all right, fuck out. Let me take this chance. If I feel any type of gut, like, nope, I'm not doing it. I don't go, fuck who she is. Yeah.

She could be the baddest bitch on planet Earth, money, all the types of things. I'm not doing it. That's why any time you get some new pussy, you need to have your homie sitting in a chair on the other side of the room with a chopper. Like, not only, like. No? hell no if i feel if i feel any type of way i'm just i'm good i'm good good but yeah i do i like i should do be hard because i like i wouldn't say i'm shy but i just like oh no i don't i gotta just get more game as i get older i guess yeah and honestly like

you just being young putting yourself in sloppy-ass situations where you don't know what's going to happen to you is like the worst idea so moving slowly when it comes to the girls is definitely a good idea because there's so many bad things that could happen, especially when you start talking about grown-ass women. I mean, I'm telling you, I was on tour with a little pump. I seen grown-ass women sucking this dude's dick. He's 16. That's when I knew girls were really fucked up. I'm like, you out here, you're a whole pedophile, and you don't even care because he got clout and chains and shit. Yeah. Yeah, that was kind of mind-blowing. For sure. Okay, so, like, are you walking around right now, like, worried about what's going to happen

when you do get locked up? Are you thinking about turning yourself? Are you thinking about turning yourself? in is that any option i mean i'm thinking about it but 18 is right around the corner yeah so i'd rather just wait go to the county have a good birthday party hell yeah hell yeah about to go crazy a lot of bitch is gonna be like well you just turned 18 right but but i don't think oh shit i'm a pedophile too right yeah you know ladies you're all bad Nah, I don't listen to him. I don't listen to him. You're about to be 18, so.

Yeah, I'm about to be 18. Yeah, fuck it. But also, you're a G. You don't snitch. Yep, exactly. So you're not going to tattle on all the girls that took advantage of you. I don't know, but it like that. They're going to be hitting me like, you're a weird.

I can't believe you made me fuck a little boy. I know, I do we lying, though. I do we say I'm 18, but look, it's not a lie, though. You know what I'm saying? I'm doing better than your boyfriend, baby daddy, all that shit. So it's good. man it don't even matter my girl one time little mosey was mad at my girl because little mosey was about the fuck with this this porn star my girl tells the girl she goes that kid's 16 the girl's like

oh my gosh so she doesn't fuck him next time little mosey sees her he's like why you do that to me right what she's like i don't want my home girl to be a fucking pedophile yeah you be around some bad bitch you i ain't about to you once the clock strikes 18 then i'll uh i'll get you in the zone yeah angela white oh man telling you boy he's over twice your age. You're not ready for all that. I'm ready for that. There's not enough perks on the world to get you ready for that. I don't need to. I'm going to go get a rhino. Fuck a perk. What? Put that in a bar. Fuck a perk. Fuck a perk. I'm going to get a rhino. I'm going to get a rhino. I have my shit going, that's a bar. Okay, but so are you walking around feeling stressed out or are

you walking around feeling like fuck it when it happens? No, no. Hell not. We got last time we were in the video and like 30, 30, 40 gang units hopped out on me. And they was like, what a peso? Like, we know what's up? We ain't gonna call your P.O. Like, so I'm kind of like not tripping. Like, because I know what they want

and I'm not gonna do that. What do they want? I'm gonna fuck up again. Oh, okay. I haven't been fucking up. I just been walking a straight line. They want you to do something even worse so they can really throw you in there.

Exactly. Exactly. So I'm like, I've been like, you know, I got, now I got like older guidance with me, like, So they're like, you know, so I've been really thinking now. But they do want me to fuck up. And I mean, and shit, they're probably going to see this interview too. And I'm not going to say the name I'm using, but I do be using a fake name.

And they can't, when there's a minor, they don't have the right to take me to the station and fingerprint. You know, I'm a minor. Right. Can't do all that shit. So they can't tell if I'm lying or not. Wow. They ain't ever going to be able to tell until I turn 18. Because I don't got, you know, the name I'm using, don't got a permit, don't got nothing.

They won't got nothing. No record nothing, so they can't tell if it's me or not. You're not worried that you, you know, that they're going to see this as you evading the law for a long period of time and maybe try to get you in worse trouble? No. I appreciate your optimistic attitude because, you know, if I had like a jaywalking ticket hanging over my head,

I'd be nervous as hell, but. No, I'm not really like, like I said, I'm not, like, worried about it. Like, because I know, I already know this jail shit. Like, I already know that shit, But if I do get caught, though, I'm not going to be, I won't be home for like a year and a half, two years maybe. When you think about being locked up again, though, what's the worst part about it? I would think the food would be pretty bad. Hell not.

No, the food's all right? That's just gas. I love that shit. Really? Hell yeah. What's the best stuff that you get in there? Shit, me personally, I don't know what the fuck it is. It's like chicken with like this sauce and like everything in there got vegetables.

Like I don't know that shit fired. I don't know what it is. It's like this like it looks like cat food but it's fire. Wow. That's just fire. I feel like anything looking like cat food would be something that I would probably be coming. Well I guess you get like crab cakes. It kind of looks like a cat food.

It looks like cat food. It really looks like smells weird too but you try it. Oh my God, it's fire. You think you're like institutionalized because you actually like the prison food? like no but it's like like we don't get prison food though we get like can we still kids we still get hot meals they give you decent food yeah they give us good food they give us good food we actually get good food like and then plus like if you juiced up shit if you juice up you get like food you get like food from the outs oh you know what I'm saying depending on the day and the staff I get

chick fillet jack in the box McDonald's walk me up if I get to eat fast food man yeah I'm on the outside I'm not eating fast food you know we get the speaker we get a you know what I'm I can't really say too much but if you juiced up then you know it ain't shit get your own soap you get a

what's the sponge it's called the lufa the lufa you get sandals you know what I'm saying all types of shit that's lit

you get to wear whatever sandals you want when you go in not only if you got juice they bring you some on and then you can switch your shoes too you gotta wear them

bob bakers I'm gonna send you some crocs with a fucking no jumper shive in there Yeah, but you know what I'm saying you just gotta have to you gotta have juice and it'll be straight But I do like what I do be thinking about it like damn if I do get caught like it's gonna suck It just gonna suck like because I'm gonna be in there It's just gonna be all bad it's not as far as like

Fights and all that shit. I'm not worried about that I'm worried about like just how my how my judge is gonna take it Right, but I have a pretty like Solidified reason for cutting off my ankle monitor and all that shit so what's the reason they shot my house up type shit so i'm just gonna be like i was scared that is a good reason it's good it's a very good good reason because my safety should be more important than me cutting off my ankle mater damn it's real out here in these streets huh yeah we gotta get you out of there so that that's what i'm gonna say i'm gonna be like uh uh uh my house got shot up you know i was scared for my life so i cut it Yeah.

I was like everything It was just happening too fast I was stressed out arguing my mom like, damn, you shut the house because you were just too much going on so I was fucking boom cut it in I left

I like that you're like workshoping what you're going to tell the cops here on a jumper man, I like this kid I don't know what it is so you're not really worried about recording more music before you go in

because I would be thinking that that would be a priority is like okay if I'm going to get locked up I want to have 10 videos or whatever yeah yeah like to write music I got to go through shit I write stories. Everybody that listen to my music, I write stories.

Right. And they be saying, oh, you talk about the same shit. Well, that's all I know. I ain't never touched no snow. I didn't this, shit like that. I just barely went to amusement parks. So I got to live life to start rapping about fucking huddles, popping pills, taking, like this.

You feel me? Y'all got to live life. Right. I got to go do shit. I respected. Yeah, I seen there was a video. You're going on Six Flikes for the first time, huh? So it's like, I see I got to do shit.

like that like I gotta go live a little live yeah I got to live I just started eating like berries and shit like so you know I'm down dead serious like I really do got it like you know I'll get to my player after this chapter I'm still in this chapter I got to turn it in a little bit right so once I turn 18 I'm I'm gonna try rapping about some player shit like the blue blocks can and then they'd be having about some shit they'd be saying some harsh or some players they'd be in the club popping in 1944 and all that I'll be in the club too you know what i do you showing out certain clubs yeah don't you know you know you never have problems

getting in the club those walk you right in yeah yeah yeah god damn pays pays to have cloud in this city doesn't it it writ about what it does mm telling you it does what a world um damn i appreciate you uh hitting us with a story hopefully you do not end up locked up for any significant period of time coming up prayers up but either way i mean i'm just excited to see what you keep doing in terms of music and everything, because you've been going crazy, man. For sure. Yeah, I appreciate you having me, man. You know, it's the coolest podcast on planet Earth.

He said it. For sure. You always been spelling peso like that? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That was always the idea. Yep.

Hey, it's crazy because I remember me and my, we used to watch these shits, and now I'm right here. Like, that should be crazy. Right here. Next, next stuff. Like, we used to think, like, remember when you do the, uh, was his new name, John Cabana? Oh, Bunk, yeah. He was all fucked up, and he was just like, bro.

You're like, I want to be doing that. No, I was just like, damn, like, we, like, I always are like, well, once you get a no jumper interview, it's solidified. It solidifies your career, for real, it really do. I mean, this is a fire interview. You really hit us with all the facts, and I just feel like the people are going to love you even more than they already love you. Yeah, like this, this, this, right here, no jumper, solidifies you. You don't have legends. You're going to make me blush.

No, not for real, I'm just keeping it nothing. Like, real, this is just, it's just solidify you. It means more than you probably would ever know. Do you hear you say that. Yeah. I've been working my ass on this for a long time. Hell yeah. Not for y'all.

Yeah, that's the thing about me. I'm going to always be real, and I'm going to give credit words due. That's why every time I get an interview, oh yeah, sway made me go in the studio. Like, you feel me? You're a wise man. Hell yeah, for sure.

An old soul. Hell yeah. Everybody tell me that shit. I know they do. Faso. I appreciate you, man. Much love. No Jumper.

Turn my boy up on all streaming services and everything like that. Like, comment, subscribe. Nojumper.com. If you want to support, YouTube. I said it in the wrong order, but appreciate you, man. For sure. Appreciate you.