No Jumper - The ppcocaine Interview: Stripping at 18, Cries Discussing Past Drug Use, Rich Off OnlyFans & More

Episode Date: November 18, 2020

Rapper on the rise ppcocaine has been intriguing for about a year. From "PJ" to "DDLG" the girl knows how to make bangers! Today on her first No Jumper interview, she shares about her upbringing, scho...ol years, leaving substances in the past and only making music as she sees fit. ----- FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 FOLLOW OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/529mn7of2HBKdLfrAMUzcK?si=rWVBWCuWSXeh0TFYb2P-dQ CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/nojumper iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/no-jumper/id1001659715?mt=2 Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/No-Jumper-198283650194402/ http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 and adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No Jumper. Coolest podcast on the world. And today I'm in here with one of the littest rappers in the universe, Phoebe Cocaine. How you doing? I'm good. That was a stretch. But thank you.
Starting point is 00:00:10 You think that's a stretch? Yeah, right now. Not like forever, but for now, yeah. Lay, listen, you came out and you made a splash. I was showing my girlfriend your page earlier, and she was, like, amazed by how good your Instagram engagement and shit is. I think you need to own your star power. Okay.
Starting point is 00:00:26 I'll start. Yeah, because I'm going to be honest. When I first saw your music, your video, we were playing that shit in here like crazy. Like there had to be a couple weeks where I showed everyone who came in the office, the DDLG video. Don't cap. Facts! Ask anyone. Laura?
Starting point is 00:00:47 Right. They know. They've all had to watch it probably more times than they wanted to. I was just shocked and amazed and like couldn't believe that this was real. Yeah, it's pretty real. Okay, so who is peep of cocaine? Where are you coming from? coming from? Like where I was born? Yeah. I was born out here kind of like not LA but like Santa
Starting point is 00:01:05 Corrida. Like I was born in Panorama but I lived in Santa Clarita. Okay. How old are you right now? 19. 19. Yeah. Okay and so what was your upbringing like? I've been in Santa Clarita. I've been to all the malls out there and shit. There's one mall out there. Yep, but I've been to it like 18 times. My grandparents, they raised me because my mom's not shit. Not shit like what? Like she's fucked up? Yeah. She's just got a lot of problems. Really? So she was just kind of never around? She was like in and out.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Like it was either jail or the crib, so. Wow. So your grandparents, though, you had a pretty good upbringing from them? Yeah, but it's not like it's different than going to your grandparents every weekend and they spoil you. Like, it was just like being raised by my parents, but they're my grandparents. Right. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:51 And so you still don't have a relationship with your mom? I did and then I cut it off. Really? Why? She's just still kind of fucked. It's fucking insane. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:01 There's something wrong with her. I hope she sees this and I hope she decides to get help. Really? Yeah, because I got to get help so she can get help too. You need to get help? Yeah. In terms of what? My mental health.
Starting point is 00:02:12 Are you currently pursuing your mental health? Like, am I getting help right now? Yeah? Yeah. What, you have a therapist or? Yeah, I see, um, I don't know if that you call her a psychic or a witch doctor, but like I'm seeing one of them right now. Really?
Starting point is 00:02:26 And I'm going to see a therapist, too. This is a big thing. I realized when I saw the thing about Asian doll saying that King Vaughn was speaking to her through like a third party, like she had like a witch doctor of some sort of, I'm not sure exactly how she would identify. I realize like girls are really out here
Starting point is 00:02:42 communicating with the, I don't know, spiritual realm. Yeah, I'm more so like just wanted my chakra balance and a spiritual cleansing. What is that chakra exactly? Because I've been calling Nali Chapa and only chakra ever since he decided. that he was a fucking yoga guru, but I don't actually know what that is.
Starting point is 00:03:01 So it's like, so like, for example, the most common chakra that people know is, like, your third eye chakra. Okay. And so it's like, there's seven of them, they, like, go up your body. And, like, if they're blocked, it's just, it's a lot to explain. Who put you on to this? Technically, I don't really remember. Like, I've always been into crystals, but, like, I didn't know really about chakra until
Starting point is 00:03:25 Next Young and showed me Avatar. Okay. Okay, we will get to her. What did you, what was your high school career like? What kind of kid were you and shit? Bad. I realized it was like very recent. Yeah, I was a bad kid. Right.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Through elementary school I was bad and the middle school I was bad. And high school I was bad. I'm just messy. Bad in what way? You were smoking cigarettes in the bathroom? No, I mean, like, yeah, I would hit the vape in the bathroom. But like, not cigarettes. No, cigarettes are old school.
Starting point is 00:03:56 All the kids in high school don't smoke cigs anymore. No. Yeah. Think about how old school I am that, well, I never did it, but I would see kids smoking cigarettes in the bathroom. That's gross. Yeah. But wait, so were you getting in trouble or what was going on? Were your grandparents just horrified by your bad behavior?
Starting point is 00:04:11 I was just messy. Like, I just was in drama all the time. Like, I'd put myself where I didn't need to be. What, like fighting, beefing with other girls? I mean, like, yeah, I probably beefed with a bunch of bitches, but, like, I've only ever gotten in a few fights. Okay. Yeah. And in San Clarita, like, where, like, where?
Starting point is 00:04:28 are you beefing with girls just at school in the fucking mall what at school in the mall and like you know like how there's that one bus stop that like everybody go to you have that yeah we had that one bus stop that everyone got to so I'd beef with everybody there but it's like I didn't even need to be at the bus stop I had rides from home I had rides to go to home but like I was like fucking I'm gonna go to the bus stop right okay so were you interested in rap music or making music during high school I mean like I always wrote music Well like kind of in the form of poetry But like I always wrote music
Starting point is 00:05:01 I just like Didn't know how to pursue it Uh huh Okay so how did you Well I'm gonna wait to get to that I'm still more interested in like the early version Of peeve cocaine When did you get that name by the way
Starting point is 00:05:12 Um May Yeah it wasn't always Pee Buccan It was trap bunny bubbles Right I heard about that too And you chose to get rid of that Yeah Why it just didn't fit what you were really trying to do
Starting point is 00:05:27 No it was just a bad part of my life and I was ready to let it go but now it's tattered on me so it's forever the trap bunny thing has been there all along yeah like when I turned 18 when I started dancing okay so you went into stripping immediately so as soon as you turned 18th birthday swear and they didn't let me audition because it was a Friday and I was like bro I don't give a fuck but I guess you can't audition on the Friday so then I went back Monday like immediately okay and you just knew that this is what you wanted to do with your life or what? Yeah, I like dancing. Like, dancing is like a stress reliever. Right. I don't like go up on the pool and like shake ass. Like I go and I dance to slow music and
Starting point is 00:06:06 I'm like, I don't know, it's something peaceful about it. Like pool dancing is more of an art. I really wasn't in it for the money because like at the time I was living with my grandparents. So like I didn't need to make money. But I mean being a stripper, there's more to it too. You got to fucking finesse these dudes into giving you money and getting lap dances and shit, right? Yeah, but I didn't care about that. Like, I didn't really care about making money for the club or for myself because I didn't have to make money. I just did it because I thought it was fun. Were you making a lot of money, though? Absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Not really? No. Why? Because I'm not like what they want to see. Oh, really? They want to see a girl go up there and shake ass and be nasty. I want to go up there and I want to use my ballet and I want to use, like, I want to actually dance. That's interesting because I feel like almost no strippers are really, like, there to dance.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Most of them seem like they're there to make money. No, I like to dance. That's dope. You were in dance, like, when you were younger in? What not? I grew up on ballet, tap, jazz, hip-hop, all that. Okay. That's what so.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Did you, were you living the life of a heterosexual woman during your high school career? Or when did you realize you were a lesbian? Not exactly. I mean, like, I had my first kiss, hell of young, like, with this girl in the bathroom. Her name was Justice. Justice? Yeah. Pee-cocaine and justice.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Yeah. It sounds like a fucking, like, it's like, a super-year. superhero plot or something. It was like second grade, I think, or first grade, I don't remember, but like we went to the upper kids' bathroom because you know how like in elementary school you got the lower kids bathroom and the upper kids bathroom? My elementary school was really, I think only had one tier of bathroom. Okay, no.
Starting point is 00:07:39 So we had, there was two bathrooms because it was like the lower kids stayed on one side of the school. Like they had their own playground and shit. Oh, okay. That's smart. Yeah. Oh, okay. That makes sense.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Wait, so when you took on the PeeB cocaine name, Was it because you were doing a lot of cocaine, or does it sound cool? No, I did it because I stopped taking drugs. Really? Yeah. Because, like, basically I was doing all the drugs. I was doing all of them. From what age?
Starting point is 00:08:07 When did you start messing around with drugs? 18. Okay. Yeah. You aren't you 19 right now? Yeah. This is like a very fast forwarded plot. Yeah, I'm going to turn 20 this year.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Oh, okay. Not this year, but like next year. I'm turning 20 in June. Okay, but so when you turned 18, you just started going crazy. doing everything? Yeah, kind of like me, like the girl I was with, we're together for like three days and she was like, try ecstasy.
Starting point is 00:08:31 I was like, fuck it. And so like I did it and we did in the hotel and it was so bad. It was so scary. I never wanted to do it again, but then I did it again with her anyways. How long do you wait to do it again? Um, I don't really remember.
Starting point is 00:08:47 I just know that like we weren't together for long. We were probably together for like three months. Okay. I feel like most people when they do ecstasy, they don't have that experience. Like for me, when I first did XScy, I was just like, holy shit, I didn't know that anything like that was possible. No, I wasn't drinking enough water. Oh, well, that would definitely fuck it up.
Starting point is 00:09:06 So I was really like, it was terrible. It was so bad. I hated it. Getting dehydrated in general is a huge issue with drugs. Like, you need to have gallons and gallons around you at all times. I feel like if you're going to do that stuff. Yeah, definitely. But so how long were you fucking with drugs before you decided to swear?
Starting point is 00:09:22 off them and change your name to include a very popular drug? I don't know. I just, I'm trying to think. I started drugs probably in like July, and then I stopped like May, I stopped May 30th. Okay. Yeah. Do you smoke weed? No.
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Starting point is 00:10:00 So you're like an expert weed smeller, but you don't actually take part? I used to smoke hello weed, but like every time I smoke weed now, like I just have anxiety and like I feel like I can't breathe. Yeah. I hear that sometimes. You ever done mushrooms? Yes and no. Like I did, like I probably took a bite of one, but like I never like felt the effects. Okay, well this, this company, rude exhaust.
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Starting point is 00:10:43 every time that they hit us up to do ads for them. Yeah, like, what? Are you doing it? That's what I'm saying. Yeah, like if we had a brinket us, brand deal for like any other drug you'd think it would be illegal but hey we out here so if if you do want to take mushrooms on the podcast and immediately become a legend just let me know that's cool not today yeah no i totally support you and not doing them right now um okay so at what point did how did this whole
Starting point is 00:11:07 transformation happen when you decide you want to get off drugs and become a rapper or like what what was this like okay those were like those are way too different stories yeah okay but like I was making music as trap many bubbles but like it started in December when I met next young and had a party. Okay. And like, I thought she looked cool. So I was like, what's up? I like your watch.
Starting point is 00:11:30 And then... And she just knew about the rap game? And you guys hit it off on what level. Was it a romantic level? No, not like that. Okay. We were just like hanging out. And, you know, shit was cool.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Sorry, like, Juggs was like a really bad time in my life. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize. Damn. So talking about that time period. It's tough for you. Yeah, because, like, I know I hurt the people I love. And it sucks.
Starting point is 00:12:04 And what, what? I just wasn't, like, being the best influence. And, like, I kind of made my friends take drugs, too. And so, like, you know, it probably really fucked them up, too, as much as it fucked me up. So I feel that. Damn. So, do you know anyone who's still kind of fucked up off drugs
Starting point is 00:12:23 that got into it with you? I don't think so. I think we all kind of stop. Well, that's good. I mean, that story, like, we've just seen that story end horribly so many times in rap music, even in the last couple of years, not to mention people that I know in my private life. Yeah, people, wow, there we go. Tissue box on deck.
Starting point is 00:12:44 You know what it is. It's a terrible thing, and it's crazy how, you know, a lot of the music sort of, like, glamorizes it and doesn't really let kids know how bad it is, you know? Yeah, it sucks. Definitely. Um, okay, but so you met her and you kind of started, in a way, do you feel like the music was kind of a way for you to escape the drug thing? No, because I was still doing drugs on music, like when I made music. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:11 I'm probably recorded most of those songs high. Hmm. But have you recorded music not high? Have you gotten past that? Mm-hmm. Most of the, like, newer music that I've recorded, I haven't been high. Like anything that wasn't like December anything that really doesn't say trap any bubbles, I recorded sober Okay, that's what's up. When did you first start to really go viral? Because that's how I got introduced to you was the DDLG video and just seeing it and being like I can't believe what I'm witnessing. This is crazy.
Starting point is 00:13:44 I got in some beef on TikTok. Beef. Yeah, but like it was my own beef and I brought it to TikTok. Okay. Which that's what the kids be doing these days. from what I understand is that you can just beef on TikTok now. Yeah, and it goes crazy. People love it, huh? Yeah. That's so crazy. And my beef was with my roommates.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Your roommates? Yeah, they suck dick. They're awful. Wait, so you just took to TikTok and just what'd you say about them? Basically, what had happened was, it was just so much. And, like, I barely even remember it now because it was so unimportant. But, like, I lived with them because, like, I just needed a place to stay for a little bit. and then
Starting point is 00:14:26 like just like shit was happening and like everything was good but like apparently the main bitch who lived there I think she's also Gemini so like of course we didn't get along of course
Starting point is 00:14:40 so like she like I don't know she just wanted everything to be about her and it was like I was coming into the picture and like I'm like I'm pretty much a star you know that's what I'm saying people like me so it was like
Starting point is 00:14:54 her roommates were like liking me more than her, I guess, and she got hurt. And, like, one night they were drunk, and, like, I asked them, because I didn't have a card at the time, so I asked them, I was like, okay, if I give you cash, can you cash up to me? And then, like, I guess they were all drunk, and they were super mad at something, and they were, like, they were going off on me. And I recorded the whole conversation, like, me and Next Younger recorded it.
Starting point is 00:15:15 And then I took that. And, like, from the recording, I put the recording on TikTok, and, like, I acted it out. Oh. It was funny. And it went viral. Yeah. That was the first thing that you had go viral? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Okay. How many followers did your TikTok at right now? 3.5 million. Holy shit. So you blew up on there before anything else? Yeah. And then did the music start going up on TikTok as well? Yeah, I started posting snippets.
Starting point is 00:15:41 I posted the DDLG snippet first. Right. Yeah. And people started fucking with it on TikTok. Yeah, they made it for like, they made it as in like a challenge of like all the, like, cute boys and girls that they like, it was like, for you. I like tried to, you know. Right. So where the fuck did your musical style come from?
Starting point is 00:15:59 Because you have so the craziest adlips. Like when you first hear that song, that's the one thing that's going to stick with you is that for you. Like I was walking around screaming that totally unrelated to the song for days after I first heard it. I just like to scream. And like, I don't know. I like to be annoying. People find me very annoying. Right now I'm nervous.
Starting point is 00:16:22 but like, you know, but like, I'm, like, annoying. I know I'm annoying. So it's like if I scream and I'm annoying, like, somebody's going to think it's cool. But do you feel like you're still very much, like, getting used to being on camera? Because it seems like we get, like, a kind of quieter version of you
Starting point is 00:16:38 in the other little interview clips that I saw of you previously. You're still getting used to being yourself in these awkward-ass interviews and stuff? Well, like, I just got my chakra balance yesterday, so, like, I'm kind of, like, chilling right now. But like, you know, like, this will, like, we're going to talk for a little bit, so my personality's going to start to show.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Oh, yeah, I think you're doing great. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Okay, but so that was just you and Next Youngen in the studio making those songs. Was DDLG one of the first songs that you made, or is it just the first one that you thought really was going to blow? No, Spain. Like, I didn't start making music with Kane until, like, we decided to make a song together,
Starting point is 00:17:21 but like she introduced me to Spain and like Spain makes beats he makes pretty much most of my beats that's him yeah okay and like I was like oh shit he makes beats that's so cool let me hop on one and like I don't know like we just all connected really good and then like we just started recording but all that shit was recorded in December in a closet in December so it was about a year ago okay in a closet too yeah wow um did you sign at some point Yeah, I'm signed currently to Columbia. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:55 And how's that going? It's good. Yeah? Are they the ones who like put up the money for the DGL video and everything like that? Absolutely not. No? No. You did that video on your own?
Starting point is 00:18:03 Yeah, with Spain's help and Kane's help and the director of the video. How did you find those girls? The internet? I just posted who want to be in the video. Right. It was pretty much whoever was down. That's how most of my shit goes. I don't like for people to like choose girls for me.
Starting point is 00:18:21 It's like, I have to like them. So it's like, I'm going to choose the girls in my video. Do you hook up with any of those girls? That's like a rapper thing, you know? Everybody wants to know if, like, blueface is fucking the girls in his videos and stuff. I got to ask you the same question, right? No, I'm not fucking any of the girls in my video. I have a type, and it's not really them.
Starting point is 00:18:43 What's your type? Okay. I like, like tomboy's. Right. Yeah. Nobody knows that. I always just say I don't have a type. but now everybody knows I like tomboys.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Give me, like, an example, like a famous woman. Like, does Ellen DeGeneres, would she do it? No. I don't know that many lesbians. I'm kind of in the dark air. No. You know Asia? Asia?
Starting point is 00:19:07 Yeah. No. She's cute. Who the fuck is Asia? You want me to show you picture? Sure. She's just named after a continent. I thought you were going to say Asian doll for a second.
Starting point is 00:19:15 I was like, yeah. I was like, I was like, I don't think. She's not a tomboy. That's exactly what I was going to say. I'm trying to think of other lesemians I could throw out there. I'm so in the dark. Asia. So she's showing me somebody with 70,000 followers.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Yeah, we got songs together. Oh, okay. The girl, you work. All right, all right, right. Yeah, no, okay, that's cool. You know Cash Page? I just had her in here. I miss my cocoa, but other kids.
Starting point is 00:19:45 That song? Yeah. I don't know what she looks like, but I know who she is. She's cute. Yeah. She's like, she likes girls, too. You know, if I and R that collab, it's over.
Starting point is 00:19:56 For real. Not even if you date, just if you do this on together. Okay, well that's good to know. Okay, but so that video you did all in your own fucking... How much do you think it ended up costing? Are you even, like, tapped in on that kind of thing? Or is your team sort of handling that sort of business stuff? I booked the spaces.
Starting point is 00:20:15 It wasn't really that much. Like, they were like 100, 150 an hour and, like, it was pretty easy. Right. Like, I just booked it with peer space. Were you concerned when you were shooting the video? like, holy shit, this is not going to last on YouTube. They're going to take this shit down. It's pretty graphic.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Like, there's some emojis that had to be included in there just to get it even up on YouTube in the first place. Yeah, well, I didn't really care. Like, I'm, like, I'm very in tune with my sexuality, so it's like I'm going to embrace that through music. Because, like, all these niggas talk about, like, sex, and I'm just like, okay, well, me too. Right. But it's pretty unique because it's very rare that you see a girl who's a lesbian and is as
Starting point is 00:20:54 young as you and putting out content that is that explicit. Like that's something I haven't really necessarily seen before. That's lit. No, I think it's great. Yeah. Have you, are you, like, hyped on the level of support that you've gotten in shit? Because it's, I'm sure that there's, like, you have crazy numbers on social media and stuff.
Starting point is 00:21:12 It feels like you're kind of filling a void of, like, a space that maybe didn't have that many people in it before. Yeah, definitely my support team right now. like well my main support team like my family my gang there no one can support me like they do right yeah because they put up with all my bullshit and trust me it's a lot what kind of bullshit if i were to work for pp cocaine what would i have to deal with nothing i'm just mentally unstable really yeah like and how does it manifest itself what do you mean like what what what is like the the craziest shit that your team has to deal with as a result of you being mentally unstable.
Starting point is 00:21:55 You just like freak out and get depressed for a few days or... No, I mean, like, I'm always depressed, but I'd be just throwing temper tantrums and shit. Like, it's a lot. I'm not going to get into detail because I'll have to expose myself. Do you, uh, so you feel for all the stuff that they have to deal with as a result of your whole thing? Yeah, because they could have been, drop my ass. They could have been like, okay, this bitch is really crazy. I'm cool. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:19 But that's part of, you know, if you want to deal with a superstar, a lot of superstars are kind of unstable. Like, I've had conversations with, like, Chief Keefe's manager and just realizing, like, holy shit, like, you have more patience than I could ever imagine having. Yeah, they definitely have a lot of patients. Right. Like a lot. Are you going on antidepressants? No, I don't like medicine. And, like, I probably should take medicine, but I don't like medicine.
Starting point is 00:22:47 I feel like I can get through it. I don't want to take medicine. Yeah, do you think it would kill your creative spirit if you were to be, I don't know, fucking on one of these like Prozac or whatever that might make you like have less erratic behavior, but might also kind of numb you to the world around you? Yeah, somewhat because like when I was younger, like I was in the hospital and they gave me Lexa Pro. And then they told me I was bipolar, which kind of made sense because my mom's bipolar. So, like, they gave me medicine for that, but, like, it felt like it really didn't do anything.
Starting point is 00:23:20 I just was just taking it to take it. Right. Yeah, because I remember they put me on Weldbutrin, which is kind of similar when I was in high school. And I think, like, at the time, I didn't really understand what a big effect it was having on me. But when I look back at it, I feel like I don't remember, like, a few months of high school there. Not that I would probably remember high school regardless, because it's been a long time. Okay. So, yeah, I mean, like, what has it been like just kind of elevating and getting so much more well-known in such a short period of time and shit? Like, you've just kind of become famous to whatever internet extent, like, very, very rapidly.
Starting point is 00:24:01 It's really fun. Like, I like attention. So, like, you know, it just feeds into me liking attention. So it's lit. Right. So do you have mad girls in your DMs? What's that scene like? Yeah, but not the girls I want. Really? Yeah. You got like girly girls and you're not into it? Yeah. Like I mean like definitely if I was dating a girl and like if I was like dating a tomboy
Starting point is 00:24:24 and like a girly girl hit me up, I'd be like, yeah, let's get a threesome. But like I never see myself dating someone like me. So you could do the threesome thing or you want to get too jealous? I feel like you might also be the jealous type in that situation. I'm definitely the jealous type. But I mean like if we're both feeling it and like I can tell off energy like if I know you're about to be grimy, bitch. I'm not gonna, like, even bring it up.
Starting point is 00:24:48 I'm not gonna press the issue. Right, you just have that trust, you know? Yeah. Mm. Is Young M.A. like the goat from your perspective? I mean, she makes good music. But isn't she, like, the hottest of that type?
Starting point is 00:25:04 No. No? No. She is not cute, bro. If I... Really? Holy shit. See, if I was a lesbian, I feel like I would think that Young M. was the goat. No, bro.
Starting point is 00:25:14 She's a big. Not cute. Well, this is why I'm not a lesbian, apparently. Yeah, I'm all right. Well, good to know. Like, no hate towards her. Her music's great, but she's not cute. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:24 I mean, you guys are in kind of different worlds, you know? Yeah. You ever worn, like, Timberlens in a Yankees hat? No. You should try it on. I feel like that's, like, if you were to, if you were, like, rocking that daily, then young and May and you might seem like you were more in the same category. I don't need to be in the same category as her.
Starting point is 00:25:41 I'm my own category. I created a category. Respect. You fuck with Missy Elliott? Yeah. Okay, good. Is your film an episode like it? I was kind of thinking like maybe she won't know who Missy Elliott is and I'm going to feel like a fucking asshole.
Starting point is 00:25:58 Who else? Who else? Who do you find inspiration from musically at this point in your life? Like artists that you really look at like they're the shit. Gwen Stefani. Really? Yeah. And Doja Cat.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Ooh, Doge Cat. Okay. But like, like, I really like. her music before she signed. Doja Cat, when she was a weird ass SoundCloud rapper before her. She started making all these pop songs. Yeah, I loved that shit. See, I didn't know about any of that shit
Starting point is 00:26:26 until she blew up. Yeah, well, I knew her before she blew up. Right. I've heard that from a bunch of people, yeah. I knew her before fucking moo came out. See, I got on with moo, yeah. Yeah, no. I liked her shit before then. It was lit. Really? Yeah, because it's like, she,
Starting point is 00:26:42 like, if you listen to her old stuff, it's like, hellasexual, but subliminally sexual. It's like, I like that shit. That's cool. Interesting. That's dope. Yeah, I have to honestly go check more of her shit out. Yeah, go to SoundCloud. Okay, yeah, but that's what I mean, like, the old stuff, because I listen to, like, her newer albums.
Starting point is 00:26:58 I actually, like, didn't really bother listening to her albums until she started getting destroyed on social media, and everybody on Twitter was trying to convince me that she was a racist, and I was, like, yeah, they convinced me of that, too. I believed it, but... I was very skeptical, and when I actually really tried to, like, figure out what people were mad about, I ended up not being that. impressed. Not that it's really my fight, but, you know, I ended up kind of not falling for it. Yeah, I found, like, a bunch of that shit was debunked anyway, so, because I believed it, too,
Starting point is 00:27:26 for a long time, and I was hurt as fuck, because I was like, I love this. I still want to know who all those white guys in that chat room were, because everybody was acting like they were a bunch of Nazis, and I'm like, okay, I want to know who they are. Like, give me information about these dudes, and I never saw anybody actually be like, well, this is this guy who said this, this, and this. Yeah, no proof. That's like, that's what they do. They cancel you with no I felt like at that moment for some reason, like tensions were so high in America. Because keep in mind, that was like immediately before the protests and shit started going off. And then like everybody stopped hating on Dojo Cat once they started protesting.
Starting point is 00:27:59 I felt like in some weird way that was kind of like the same energy. Yeah. I don't know. Anyone else? Anyone else I look up to? You should have been in the Watt video. I'm weak. Yeah, well, they didn't hit me up, so that's on them.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Next time. You can be in the Wop 2 video. Okay. You know it's coming. No, it's not. Anyways. I'm inspired by Next Youngen a lot. Like, I mean, our styles of music are definitely different, but, like, as a person, she inspires me.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Is she kind of, like, managing you? No, Spain and Solomon's Towns are my manager. Oh, I forgot that Solomon is managing you. That's so crazy. Yeah. So what kind of shit, like, what's your communication like? What kind of stuff is he lining up for you? For the world who doesn't know what I'm talking about,
Starting point is 00:28:49 he was also managed X and a shitload of other really successful people over the last few years? I mean, like, he lives in a different state, so we only talk on the phone. But, like, him in Spain just work together to make me better as a person and as an artist. Right. Because I'm not shit.
Starting point is 00:29:08 You really feel that way? Are you just saying that? No. Because you want to try to lower expectations? No, like, I'm really not shit. Really? Yeah. What does that even mean, though?
Starting point is 00:29:17 I think I'm just really terrible person. Really? Yeah. So I should be careful about getting any closer to you? No, I mean, I'm working on myself. But right now, I know I've done some fucked up things. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Okay. How do you feel like you're going to repent when it comes to those things? Or what do you need to do to make it right? And there is no way to make it right. It's already done. I just have to be a better person for myself. Do you catch a body or something? No. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:49 That's good. I'm not a killer, bro. You ever had a close call? No, I do murder the pussy, though, so. Ooh! Guess you could call me a killer. There it is. Wait, so are you,
Starting point is 00:30:01 are you, like, highly promiscuous with all these girls that you're meeting on the internet? I definitely am a flirt. Like, I definitely have a flirty personality. Like, I flirt with everyone just because I can. It's just for practice. Okay. But you have no interest in dudes. No.
Starting point is 00:30:16 There's no, like, There's definitely boys that, like, I think are attractive, but, like, I would never go as far to, like, fuck them. You're not actually interested in that? But that's what I kind of don't get about, like, because every girl that I know who is a lesbian is pretty much also into dudes as well, because, like, I feel like being in the porn world. Okay, then that's not being a lesbian. That's called being bisexual. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:40 I don't really, yeah. So, like, little mozy DM do you? It's not going to work. First of all, choose a cuter rapper. I'm trying to choose, like, the cutest rapper I can think of. Yeah. I don't really find rappers attractive. Like, I just, I guess I fall for people that are nice to me and care about me.
Starting point is 00:31:01 But it's like, I guess I could, like, I guess I could talk to a boy and, like, be, like, really close friends with them. And, like, but it would never get to the point of us having sex. Because I don't want to be penetrated. Right. That's the rule. I guess, yeah. Like, I'm not going to kiss you or anything. I mean, yeah, we can flirt, but I'm not ever.
Starting point is 00:31:19 gonna kiss you or have sex with you. Tell me if this is too much, but when you say you're not going to be penetrated, is that with women as well? I mean, like, I like to get fingered. Okay. Definitely. That's, like, my favorite part. But you can never imagine having a dick in you?
Starting point is 00:31:32 No, like, even the strap on hurts. Really? That shit's painful. Wow, I had no idea. Yeah, like, I dealt with a little trauma when I was younger, so it's like I'm cool. Oh, okay. Yeah. I'm sorry about that.
Starting point is 00:31:44 It doesn't matter. I'm over it. Oh, I guess that's a good attitude, yeah. So what are you kind of planning about, like, in terms of your career? Like, what's the big plan? Are you thinking about doing a project? Do you feel like you're not ready for that? No, I definitely have enough songs for a project already.
Starting point is 00:32:03 I'm just waiting for the right time. Right. Yeah. It's kind of a weird time for you to come up during COVID and whatnot. Yeah, but it's also the best time. Everybody's at home watching PB Cocaine videos. Mm-hmm. Did the fucking DDLG video get age-restricted so you can't?
Starting point is 00:32:16 It's like really hard to find. Yeah, it's age-restricted and shadow band. Yeah, it's crazy. You know, YouTube don't like pussy. Whenever I try to find it to show somebody, I just like realize one day that it got a lot harder. Like I couldn't just search Peaboo Cocaine anymore. I had to search the full song name. Yeah. They wasn't fucking with the kid. It is a little extreme. I don't care. Like, I promise you, at 12 years old, I was watching porn. So it's like no different.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Yeah, but still, it's kind of like YouTube's job to try to make sure that 12-year-olds are watching as little porn-esque content as possible, right? Well, then maybe I should just put the video on porn hub because I know there's already people looking at it underage because I was. Well, you can make money on porn hub as well. Yeah, I know. My OnlyFans is leaked on Pornhub. Oh, yeah, I forgot. Do you make mad money from OnlyFans? Yeah, I had the bread.
Starting point is 00:33:03 And was that a thing before music? I mean, I had Onlyfans, but I didn't really post on it and I didn't have no subscribers. Like, really because, like, but I would post, like, really explicit content back then, but now I just post, like, my boobs in my butt. Okay. Yeah. And people go crazy for it. Is it dudes or girls coping us? It's both.
Starting point is 00:33:23 Yeah. Yeah. And you're talking to them in the messages and whatnot? Not really. I don't like keep up with it. Like I just post and go. That's hot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Nice. I don't really like, I'm not really interested in having a conversation with you. I'm interested in you looking at me naked and sending me tips. I respect that. But also I hear from a lot of the girls that the tips is where they make a lot of the money at because they sort of upsell like premium content. But I guess if you're not doing anything too crazy, that might not be a. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:48 I mean, like, I offer, like, pole dances to your favorite song because I have a poll in my house. Mm. And, like, I'll, like, I'll put your name on my butt. Wow. How much does that cost? I don't know. The price is at the top of my head, but they're all my only fan subscribe and find out. Damn, getting your name written on a butt.
Starting point is 00:34:04 That's pretty cool. Yuri, one of our editors, he'll, like, be on Twitch and he'll take shots for $10. And one time I saw him, like, super late at night, and he had all kinds of words written all over his face. because he had gotten tips from people, like to draw glasses on his own face and shit like that? You wouldn't do that? No, that's like... Kind of degrading, right?
Starting point is 00:34:27 It's a little weird. I mean, like, I'll put you, like, because somebody's asked me to do, like, their band on my butt. Their band? Yeah, like, they're in a music band. I was like, okay. Right. But do you sell promo on Instagram and shit?
Starting point is 00:34:39 No, absolutely not. That'll fuck on my page. I'm trying to cop a promo. Well, that's tough. Put me on a story and just say, follow Adam 22. He's sending out... We can take a picture together and I can use that as a caption.
Starting point is 00:34:52 We gotta do that. Unless like, unless like we take a picture together or anything, like I'm not just going to post you on my page because it's going to like fuck up my flow. But you know, that's what's funny is that people come on this podcast sometimes and then I just see them selling promo on their Instagram story immediately after. And I'm like, wow, that's hilarious how the world works these days that people just like, oh, this is my window. I'm going to have an extra amount of people watching my shit.
Starting point is 00:35:17 Boom. I'm selling $50 story post. Let's go. Yeah, no. I feel like that's actually unnecessary. That's going to make the people who want to see me look at my page less because it's like, oh, she's doing weird shit. Yeah, it'll definitely just, you know, you want to make it so that, like, when your story pops up on people's Instagram, that they actually think it's going to be interesting and not a bunch of bullshit?
Starting point is 00:35:36 Yeah. Facts. Okay, so, yeah, you're just sort of waiting for the right time to drop this project. Anything else we should look forward to? Um, yeah, my slut music video is coming out. That's what's called? I don't know when. Slet.
Starting point is 00:35:55 And it's just you or is there anyone else on it? It's just me. Word. Yeah, it's gonna be lit. Who was the other artist that you did a video with, the dude? Oh, the village? Yes. Yeah, he's a friend from high school.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Really? Yeah. Wow, I thought that might have been the label putting that together or something. That's interesting. No. That was crazy. Because there was one scene. in that where you sort of like have your hand blocking your vagina area and your legs are up and
Starting point is 00:36:23 I was just like oh my I'm like this looks more like porn than anything I've ever seen on YouTube that's what most of my videos I try to make like because I don't know I like sex right that's the best way to capture my essence so it's like that's when I'm going to promote you should do an explicit version all your videos on Pornhub and then the cleaner version on YouTube I'm fin do it on my only fans or that too that's great because I'm not getting my money from Pornhub I'm going to get it from OnlyFame. But Pornhub pays pretty good too. Yeah, that's cool. Allegedly. I've heard. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Not that great. Not as good as YouTube, but something I heard. Yeah, but OnlyFans could pay me better. And then I'll get more subscribers. There you go. Yeah. You don't put your numbers out there? My phone number? No. How much money you make off OnlyFans and shit? Right now, all my money, I haven't withdrawn anything because I just wanted to
Starting point is 00:37:11 build up to the same amount that I got when I first signed, and then I'm fined withdraw it. Did you have a bidding war when you got signed? You got a good, good check from that? Like, were people fighting over me? Of course. Yeah? Yeah. So you ran it up? I guess. Like, my lawyer helped me. Right. Because it wasn't really about the money. It was about the terms. Like, I didn't want to do something that I didn't want to do. Yeah, I mean, taking a huge check and then getting less on the back end is usually, doesn't really work out so well for people in the long run. But so you're super comfortable financially at this point. Mm-hmm. Has that made you a happier person, or, like, how much has that changed?
Starting point is 00:37:51 Money does not make you happy. Right, but it can make you more comfortable. Like, I'm definitely comfortable. Like, my life is pretty good right now. But, like, me, I'm not happy. What's it going to take, you think? I just have to work on myself. Like, there's really nothing that can make me happy.
Starting point is 00:38:09 Mm-hmm. Like, I just have to fix myself and fix what's going on in my head. Align the chakras. Yeah. Yeah. Naga, you don't know shit about what you're talking about. Shut up. I think of the chakra thing as just a metaphor for like getting your life to get in general, though.
Starting point is 00:38:26 So I'm not. It's just another way of putting it, right? I guess. You meditate? I try to. It's very hard. It is hard, yeah. I'm old as fuck and it's still hard.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Yeah, it's hard as fuck. I just start thinking about the stupidest shit. And I feel like it's so important. Like, oh my God, I need to grab my phone to do this. And then I'm like, I check myself. Like that's stupid. You don't need to fucking... Yeah, I'm not to take for like 15 minutes and then call it a day because like damn I can't focus. I can't not focus on something for that long.
Starting point is 00:38:53 No, it's crazy. It's the hardest thing in the world is just sitting still. I'm not even sitting still right now. I'm moving side to side. I know when you start bouncing your foot up and down and then you think about like what that means. Like I have so much nervous energy that I'm just moving my foot around like what the fuck is that? Yeah. And lucky you just made me start moving my foot. For real. Oh yeah. Okay, Peabee cocaine
Starting point is 00:39:15 Taking over the game Look at two bars Come a rapper Yeah, I write for a lot of rappers Are you being dead ass, are you lying? Yeah, you know Drake I write most of his shit Just kidding
Starting point is 00:39:29 But Do you think you're going to be On the double XL cover Coming up? Do you think you got it in you? I don't know what that is You don't know what double XL the magazine is? No They do a cover, the freshman cover
Starting point is 00:39:42 with all the new rappers on it No, I never heard of that. That's amazing. You're from another planet. Yeah, I'm not really like, I don't really know who people are or know who things are. Like, to be honest, like, I didn't really know who you were either. You didn't? But then you were nervous once you actually got here? Yeah, because, you know, I, like, I do my research. I watch some of your videos before I came because I was like, let this nigger not embarrass me.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Because on God, we might have to fight. Right. But, like, that's why I thought she was bald. Which interviews did you watch? I would have thought you would have seen Black China walking out. That might have made you worried. I seen that, and I know that you're smart enough to not do that to me. She was kind of tweaking.
Starting point is 00:40:23 It's not like I asked her anything worse than anything I asked you. I know, but I just know that you're smart enough not to do that to me, because this is our first interview. And because you're a killer? You're a killer. Do you have a vagina? No. Then, no. That doesn't apply to you.
Starting point is 00:40:37 I got a boozy. Is that what it's called? The butthole pussy? You're a weird one. But pussy? You're a weirdo. I don't remember what video I've seen, but I just remember, oh, I've seen a lot of yourself with Selena. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:52 You look up there? I mean, like, no, but, like, she's cool. I don't, like, look up to her because I would not do what she's doing. But, like. In terms of what, exposing rappers or? No, in terms of, like. Only fans? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Right. She'd be doing on her only fans. But that's just how she's monetizing. Her whole thing from the beginning has been more about, like, like fucking rappers and then just like, you know, documenting it in some way and just exposing them or whatever that was her thing for a long time. Yeah, like that's good for her. Like, that's, you know, if that's her career choice, that's cool.
Starting point is 00:41:22 But it's not a career choice for me. Well, that's good. All right. Peepie cocaine. What's up? Where'd the pee pee part come from? Pretty pink. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:41:34 There it is. Yeah. Amazing. People think it's pink pussy, but no. It's pretty pink. People are so stupid. You probably thought that should do. I didn't think about it.
Starting point is 00:41:44 I thought pee like, but I mean, that's what we called urine when I was a kid. Urine cocaine. That's kind of what I was thinking, yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's what it is. I'm going to talk to that. Just two of the good things in life. Oh, my goodness. Urine and drugs.
Starting point is 00:42:01 Yeah. All right, Peeb, cocaine, no jumper, coolest podcast to the world. Check us on YouTube, SoundCloud, iTunes. Like, comment, and subscribe. Shout out to our sponsor, Rare Exotics, as well as these one-up bars. get the link down in the description, follow them on Instagram and all that. Appreciate you. Of course.
Starting point is 00:42:18 I appreciate you too. Bye.

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