No Jumper - The Prodbyzaqq Interview: Da 🐐 No 🧢, Coming Up off Commenting on Kanye's IG & More

Episode Date: March 16, 2022

Zaqq talks about his crazy and unusual come up, getting clout off IG, making music, being reposted by Drake, Kanye and more! https://www.instagram.com/prodbyzaqq/ https://www.instagram.com/rj.hxpe/ ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumper coolest podcast on the world. And today we're doing something new that we never did before. We're interviewing a dude who's known for leaving comments on Instagram. Yes, sir. Prob by Zach, Zach. Prod by Zach. So we're saying that and not produced by Z. I'm Zach.

Yeah, let them know, bro. Everybody knows me is Prod by Zach on Instagram. I got stuck with the handle when I got verified. Right. I need that Instagram plug to change me to ZAQQ or whatever. But that's not available? It's not. Somebody took it.

They got like two followers. I've been messaging the page for like three years. Wow. Yeah. You want to introduce us to your friend here? This is my boy, RJ Hope. He's on all my songs. I tagged him in my recent post.

We got music videos, like three videos. Right. Who one just dropped today? Today. Yeah. Confessions music video on my YouTube channel. So over the years, there's been a few people that can kind of come to mind that sort of rose to notoriety by like leaving obnoxious Instagram comments over and over.

But I feel like you've kind of taken it further than anyone I've seen where you're essentially unknown when all that started, right? Yeah. And then you just, was it Kanye's comment section that you first got noticed? I mean, three, four weeks ago, yeah, Kanye's shit really blew up. Right. Took it to the next level, you know? But, I mean, so I have this little catchphrase, like, the go no cap, you know?

That's been my thing. I don't know what made me start saying it. What is it the go? The goat, no cap. Oh, right, right, right. Like, he's the goat, no cap. So, like, a year and a half ago, I just started, like, saying it, like, in real life type shit.

And then there was a point where, you know, it was like Instagram. And I was like, bro, this guy to go, no cap. I just got to go no cap. And I just started saying, it's like, you know, people drop fire emojis. I think you were giving me some of this treatment even before you became famous. For sure. For sure. And you're kind of seeing it and you're like, you know, you think, oh, that's nice.

But you just sort of like move past it. It's a catchphrase. And then, um, but it's actually facts though. So people, speaking facts. People think you're just slob and Kanye's knob. But actually you're just sort of reiterating your personal brand. Facts. And I made a music video three, three weeks ago, not even to go no cap.

music video and um it's just kind of me on some like trolling you know because people have been like oh like fuck the goat no cab like they're not fucking with it or whatever some people not all of them and i was like well um i'm just like it's giving them it's giving them attention you know so i was like i'm going to just reinforce this let me just make a music video called the goat no cat so you were already verified for two years yeah how did you get verified in the first place just putting music on streaming service yeah just i mean i've been grinding this forever i've been doing music since i was 12 How old are you? 25.

Okay. Been grinding this out for a long time. We were in a metal band, pretty established in our area in Jersey. For a couple years, yeah. He would do the screams. I would do the cleans and guitar. I play six instruments, you know. Do you guys get kind of popular?

Yeah, we were, our last show was sold out. We opened. Memphis May Fire. We play with Memphis May Fire. Palisades, like pretty huge bands. And people would be beating the shit at each other. Yeah. My show is broken right now.

From moshing. Yeah, a month ago, I was moshing. Yeah. And I broke my nose. Somebody hit me or punched me or some shit. Wow. So yeah, I got to get that fixed right now. What's a Jersey Mosh pit out of a metalcore show like these days in terms of shit?

I grew up on a Boston hardcore shows. Oh, yeah? Wait. Is that where you're from? All the craziest violence I've seen in my life, I always tell people was pretty much at these shows. Yeah. Wait, wait, wait. We got to be honest, though, because we just saw, like, we came as Romans, and they were like, it's all about Philly.

See, we go to Philly for all our shows. South Street, TLA, that's where it's crazy. That's the next level shit. That's the next level of shit. That's the next level shit. That's the next level of shit. Yeah, in Philly is where we go for all like the good stuff. So you're simultaneously a hip-hop fan and a metalhead?

Not even just those two. I like all. Yeah, every genre. I used to, if you asked me six months ago, what do you listen to? I would have said everything but country. I don't listen to country. But I respect it. Well, I went to Wildwood, New Jersey, like a boardwalk, right?

Like six months ago. And I ended up at a country fest by accident. And I was like, fuck up. And I was like, wait, this is kind of hard, bro. So like, yeah, now I can literally say out like, anything. I'll put on classical, you know what I'm saying? Like, Chopin and shit. Yeah, my girl plays country around me sometimes. Well, if I hear a song enough, it'll start to get stuck in my head and I'll kind of start to like it. Yeah. But it's more like the overall

surrounding aesthetic of it. Like, you know, like the sound of it, even if the song is stuck in my head, the sound of it is not what I find really all that attractive. That's what I always thought. And the lyrical content is just super corny and weird. Oh, that's probably the hardest part for me to get into is the lyrics because like they think my track is sexy. You've been dressed up. Nah, it's not farmers. They don't make girls like you every day. I don't know what all that.

Literally. But I'm listening to Pushisky and he's saying some shit that sounds cool even if I can't really directly relate. Yeah, yeah. I feel that. I totally feel that. Right. Okay.

So when do you actually really start to get attention from the comment thing? And when did you realize that you could sort of gain some clout by commenting on everybody's shit? I mean, I'd say a month ago is when it's all really propelled to the next level. I mean, there's literally news coverage. view type pro by Zach on google yeah there's like articles and shit but who's who popped it off me like like i can't say anybody i don't know people are liking my comments right um and then they go check out my music you know i think when i first kind of got a hold of it was i saw the dude on twitter who hates me and talk shit about me but this guy big business i don't know on twitter i just

started using twitter he said prod by zach just got jumped backstage at this dog this show. That went viral. And so I recognize the name because I'm like kind of in the back of my head. You played my songs on stream a couple times. See, I knew I recognized the name slash from my Instagram comments. So I immediately hop on Google and I search probably by Zach. I searched on Instagram.

I'm like, this motherfucker. Like this is the fuck. This guy got jumped at the dog show. I'm like, that's crazy. So then I hit you up and you said, no, actually that didn't happen. Yeah. So it was a we were going to go. So yeah, we're so close to like literally flying out to the yay Donda 2 live stream.

Miami. I was so close to buy my ticket. And then my phone was blowing up with, um, not just hate, but there was some hate saying like, oh, pro by Zach fin to be there. Like out of pocket stuff. Yeah, like some threats. Like, yo, if I see probably Zach at his show, fin to beat his ass type shit. Anything that you took serious or was it? I don't know. I don't take no. I don't take, I mean, I don't really take anything that these, like the hate. I don't take none of that serious. But at the same time, you don't know these people. Yeah. So it's like, I was like, I'm not going to die if I don't go to Miami. So I'm a whole at all.

Some of these weird-ass fashion kids that hang out at Kanye shows and shit are definitely the type of weird-ass weirdos that would fucking beat somebody up for an Instagram comment. Just to go viral just to be on some edgy shit. That's what I'm saying. I hop on the whole pro by Zach hate train or whatever is going on. Like I saw people tagging me in their stories at the show. Like, we're looking for you. I don't know how serious that is, but I'm not trying to find out how serious that shit is.

That's cool that the Kanye fandom goes so deep that you could kind of have, like, you have all these different, you know, icons in the story. And the story is so big, the web is so big that you could even be one of the branches on this whole thing. It's crazy. It's, I feel like a side character. You know what I'm saying? It's like a comic book or some shit. Right. What is the best things that have come about in your life as a result of this newfound notoriety aside from being on a jumper right now?

I was going to say, I mean, I was going to say no jumpers like lit because, I mean, you've been, I've been paying to have you stream my shit. a couple times out here, you know? And you was rocking with it. Like, but, um, I don't know. Other than that, it's just crazy to see the spike in, I mean, listen, I've been grinding this music thing out since I was 12. You know what I'm saying? Playing guitar and shit.

Being in bands and shit. So for me to, uh, finally be like, okay, I'm putting something out and numbers are seeing it. Like, that's the biggest, um, positive thing I can take out of this, you know? Right. You're getting eyeballs on your shit regardless. Yeah. Facts.

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, before a little bit, but now it's like a lot of bit, you know? But the metal band isn't around to benefit from this? We're inactive right now. Okay. I'm focusing on Zach right now. Okay. And he's focusing on Hope.

RJ Hope is like his name with X in it, you know, HXP. Okay. So. And so these days you can be in a metal band and you can make rap music or. Hell yeah. And I know you interview Franz. Yeah. We're at Tila fans.

Okay. Really? Yeah. Yeah. We kind of sound like Attila. Our band did, you know? Yeah. Heavy shit, you know.

That's legendary. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I just got to say, so, I mean, this guy here is, he's been doing this music stuff for so long. He's actually insanely musically talented, not with just making, like, hip hop, but for the band, man, he did everything, guitar, bass, drums, piano, yeah. I mean, probably, like, Zach, I got stuck with the username because I was producing. Really? Making beats.

He taught me everything I know. I recorded metal, which is, like, completely different from hip-hop. It's, like, a different world. I don't know if you know much about, like, producing music. I don't, but I always think about that when I'm listening to the hardcore that I grew up on in the 90s and stuff. stuff like holy fuck the quality is so bad compared to the way but now it's like a different but a lot of it kind of sounds the same now I feel like I feel like I can say that about a lot of different genres yeah right um it's just a different style of recording like literally a band can sound one way live

but depending on what producer you take them to they're not going to sound like that on the record right like it's all about production learning how to do it different ways you know yeah so definitely But I listen to like the black metal shit from the fucking way back in the day. It sounds like it was recorded straight through a tin can. But I have like fond memories of this from high school and shit because I was so interested in the whole plot of the black metal community. But now when I'm listening to it, I'm like, oh, this is like unlisteningable. No. No.

Because black metal. Yeah. I don't really know any bands, but I know exactly what it sounds like. I hear it in my head. In the fucking drums. Slayer sounds incredible compared to the old stuff, Burzum. mayhem and all that shit it just sounds so bad but it was like yeah raw you listen to any new metal like nah none of them just old shit the guys got out of it as I feel that yeah a certain point

yeah a certain point sounds kind of recycled and sometimes I ask my friends who are into metal and stuff I'm like yo like you got any like band recommendations for like the really lit bands now and like I kind of hear the same thing for them where they're like honestly even the best bands now are kind of like a like a redone version of what you grew up listening to We were just talking about that. Waiting for that new wave of shit to come in, you know. That's the weird thing is that rap is constantly changing and fluctuating. That's what made me get into it so much.

I grew up listening to old M&M and all that, you know, big epoch, all that. Like, if metal sounds too much not like what they're trying to sound like, then it just kind of becomes like a different genre. It's like they're just sort of stuck in one sound. And that just, I got over at a pretty young age, for honest. I feel like 2015, 16 is when it was like plateaued. No, I feel like that's good, but it plateaued. And that's when it was like I'm paying more attention to hip hop, you know?

Right. Like, even to me by that point, I was already so fucking over it. You got to think I graduated 14. So 15 to me, I was like going to warp tour before. I graduated in 2002. I went to a warped tour in 1998. I saw Eminem play there. Oh, that's tough.

I was born in 96. But apparently I didn't like it that much because I didn't keep going. I never went to another one even though. But Eminem never came back, huh? Well, no, they're throwing bottles out of them and shit, dude. That's crazy. I saw Black Eyed Peas play there too. Yeah.

Pre-Fergy. Yeah, but were they like headlining? Were they at the time of the... No, no. So, okay, yeah. They were, like, a tiny little, like, underground style, like, rap group that I had heard them, and I thought they were cool because I got their CD from the back of a fucking magazine. No way.

So you're ahead of the curve. A little bit. They weren't that popular, so I guess I could kind of say that about my... Think about how crazy it is that they went from... You said they were kind of, like, openers. So, like, not even on warp towards level probably by the next year. Insane. No, not that.

It was many years later when they blew up because that 1998, they blew up. I was thinking of M&M. 2004 or something like that. Yeah. I don't know. Oh, yeah. Eminem was big like 99. That was the MNF first came out, but it wasn't like a sure thing that this guy was going to be a huge star, even though he had like a big song at that time.

He was just like established. Yeah. That was trippy. But, okay, what, when, what are the main things that you see people say about you that kind of boggles your mind or that you feel like are worth responding to? Worth responding to That's a tough one because I don't really respond to a lot of the people that aren't putting positive energy in but I'm going to say

send propped by Zach to Ukraine is pretty crazy to me. Have you seen that? I didn't see that. It's a petition. Oh, you haven't seen that? Chains. Chains.org had to close it down or whatever because three days it was up, four days got seven, eight K votes. Send Zach to Ukraine.

I'm assuming it was a resounding yes. Yes. They still say it right now. Yeah, I mean, my phone's, it's on an airplane more now, but it's probably blown up with Send Zach to Ukraine. Everything I post sends a to Ukraine. It's on that's one of the things that News covered, you know, like oh Kanye Westfans like finnison probably Zach to the Ukraine But you're not Ukrainian? Nah, I'm half Moroccan. My mom's white. So, but I don't know, I guess it was just kind of like Ukraine blew up like right. You're trending. Yeah, so it's like,

send them there. So the petition just went up and then they like, you know, shut down change that word. Yeah, it took it down. There's a lot of things you can't do on GoFundMe or whatever. You can't raise money for criminal expense or for like lawyer fees for a criminal offense. You can't do that. I would assume that like sending an unwilling participant to a war-torn country would probably be against their terms of service.

Yeah, yeah. I don't know, but that's that's crazy. Like people were making videos on that TikTok's millions of views. If you go to hashtag Prabizak, it's like a lot of it's like, a lot of it's like, send him to Ukraine and a lot of it's like, oh, he got his ass beat at the Yates concert in Miami and I'm like what the fuck is going on yeah I saw that on Twitter because I'm I was on Twitter like I've been for a while but he hasn't and he wasn't on yet so I was seen it on Twitter because he was like yo people are saying this good like look it up so I did and I said

to him through screenshots I was like this is like I don't know if we should go to this show there's like thousands of tweets I mean it's not only hate though that's the best part about it is people are some people are realizing you know what it is like they come to my page and like wait this is like fire you don't I'm saying and they listen to the music, check it out. And then do you know Anthony Fantano? I saw the video I made about you. Shout out of Anthony Fantano.

What do you think of the video? I thought it's funny as fun. It was funny. Did you watch the whole video? Yes. He was a clown of me for drinking milk and shit. I fuck with milk. Dude, this man in his milk, it's actually.

Shout out Fantano like on YouTube. I don't even know if I noticed that part, but he was, he was talking about your milk consumption. How much milk did you drink in the video? I mean, I went, you know a wallie? I think I was only that one shot, though, of me, like, do you know what wallways? I do know what wawa You do?

Of course Okay That's like East Coast shit So like yeah I mean we go to Wawa Like every night or two Smoke up Smoke up

I get me like You know them protein cookies Like I get me like I don't feel bad about it But I'm like getting my munchies on You know so It's like exactly the same amount of calories As a fucking candy bar

But in your head you're like I'm like just I mean you're something healthy I'm like just dividing it And I'm drinking that milk And fucking protein shake But like Nah so I don't know

The videos we make like by ourselves. Just me and him. So I produce like I don't produce beats now I'm trying to get away from that but I you know engineer my vocals taught him

how to do all that shit so we just drink smoke make music and then go shoot the video same night half the time and the freezing cold sucks and cold out East Coast

and then just make the videos edit it together and post it up you know But Fantano's review of your music it wasn't really good or bad his opinion was almost that it was just like stunningly average. Yeah. I take that as a compliment because he didn't sound bad.

Even getting to average is pretty hard considering how many bad rappers there are. That's what I'm saying. So for me, average, like, I mean, like, fuck. Like, I literally freestyle like both of them videos. Like the songs like, you know what I mean? So for me, I'm like, damn, my freestyles are average. That's fire. You know what I mean?

Because that's compared to people's written. Who knows where you have to go from here? That's what I'm saying. And I got many different sides to me. an artist like i play six instruments you know what i'm saying so like for me to be average in the sound cloud rap community is like that's tough because like i know that i'm above average when i'm shredding the guitar up and you know so to be fair fantana has heard more music than almost anyone and has like a more analytical perspective on music so it's kind of like he might not necessarily

be the audience that you're trying to hit you're trying to go for that that young soundcloth generation right oh really he followed me he hit me up we've been in the dms a little bit he's cool Well, because he put part of the song in his video, right? Well, he made a whole video. Did you have to whitelist his channel for that? Because we never put... What does that even mean? Okay, never mind.

Yeah. I was just surprised he used a clip of your song in the video because normally that is like a copy right there. He used two songs. Oh. So he did a video. The video is called Prob by Zach to go no cap with the emojis. Just how I type it.

Yeah. So, um, first video was like to go no cap, the video I made. And that video is just me like having a fucking good ass time. Like, you can ask him, I had him engineer my vocals. We pulled up this beat, someone sent to me on Instagram. And I literally just freestyle that, John, in five minutes. And then we went out and shot the video next day.

I uploaded it the day after that. So it was all done. It was like a spontaneous, having fun type shit, you know? That's how it always is. Even with our videos, man, even the one we just dropped right now, confessions. It's just us, like, smoking, drinking, just having a good time, man. Like, that's all it's about. It's almost like a vlog aesthetic to it, you know?

Because I'm using a vlog camera to me. make these videos, you know? See, sometimes I think about that is that in this modern age of music, like, how much does they really benefit you as an artist to really think about your music as having to be this big, massive statement about yourself? Like, what if you were a musician and you put yourself more on like the vlogger? Mine stay where it's like, I'm going to put out, you know, vloggers put out a fucking video a day or every other day or whatever.

And it's not like they're judging themselves where each one has to be progressive and new. It's more just like, oh, here's a chunk of my personality. and that's what I'm giving you as a YouTuber, you know? Yeah. I don't know. Like, um, just, I'm just trying to take all this shit, have fun with it. Like, you know, show people kind of who I am. But at the same time, not take it too serious because then I feel like you take the fun

out of it. And if you take the fun out of it, I feel like the people watching can pick up on that. Right. So lately all the videos have been trying to be good, positive vibes. I want people to watch these videos and feel like they're partying with me. Right. You know what I mean? Just like, we're lit.

like, ah, let's go crazy. Yeah, having a good time. Yeah, is what I'm saying. That's definitely, no, that's what you want to encourage, for sure. And I mean, you got to think to yourself, like, what do you want your value proposition to be to the audience? And I think with you, it's not, you know, shoot them up bang, bang gangster shit. They just want some good times, maybe some Instagram comments.

I'm just having fun making music. And if people are long for the ride, man, like, y'all family. Why do you say you don't want to make beats anymore, given that your... I don't have fun with it. Really? I started off and I was like, this is. tough but then as it went on I was like this is two tedious for me I like I like feeling like I'm making music right there on the spot like you got to think I started out playing instruments

so for me like I like to just do something physically I'm not a mouse and keyboard if I'm doing that I want to play World of Warcraft you know I mean so like for me like I just want to do the music part of it and sometimes I'll make a beat for myself I have to but you know I just feel like I'm an artist at heart not a producer you get beats from other people so people people People have been sending them lately, yeah. Yeah. Nice. Can any rappers reach out that want to work with you?

Kid Trunks hit me up a couple weeks ago. Wow. Give me his number and shit. I mean, I got the FettyWatt follow like a year and a half ago and shit. Why? Just grinding on the ground. Did he try to sell you a verse? He's Jersey too.

No, he didn't. He didn't try to just hit me up on some, yo. He didn't try to sell you some fentanyl? No. I hope not, bro. I was at Rolodd out New York, too. I bet I'd never run into that guy. He's gonna be like, that wasn't funny.

I was at Rolling Loud New York, too. So when I seen that on my phone, I was like, that's crazy. That's here. Like, you know what I'm saying? How are they going to do that? And I guess Fetty Wob stands for, or is like slang for Fenton. I never thought of that. I didn't even think of it.

Yeah. It's like same amount of syllable. I think they might have started calling Fenton all that because Fettie Wob was already a famous rapper and it kind of sounded like it. So, like, that's pretty ironic. They named, they nicknamed the drug after him and then he apparently got arrested. Wait, is that like for real? Are you fucking with me right now?

No, that's, well, just like a joking way, like, oh, he got that fetti waugh. Yeah, the fettie wad. Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy, nah. But, um, were you at Rollin' Loud? Nah. Nah?

I went to New York in Cali. Yeah. I went to the last one in New York before the pandemic. Yeah, we flew out here to, to the Cali one in December, right, December? Yeah, yeah. How was that for you? It's fucking awesome. Yeah?

Yeah, it was like. Oh, but not where we stayed. Oh, we stayed in a crest line. You heard of Crestline? It's up in the mountains outside of San. San Bernardino. You're so isolated. We just got our phone snatched right out of my phone took twice. By who? Who the fuck knows? Dude, they took everyone's phone. Yeah. Everybody's phones were gone. At the festival. Yeah, just pickpocketing. If somebody's watching this who went to San Bernardino

it was on the news, right? This is like a big operation. They were finding people with trunks open. Yeah, I have pictures of just phones. How'd you get a song out your hand while you're just standing there? So, okay, so the first night. First one was you. First one was you. The first one was me. because it's three days rolling out day one the phone was just gone one second and then you got your phone snatched day two right yeah but you got you got yours back in the lost and found on day one someone had dropped it on the ground who snatched it and then someone picked it up and was like oh my god and then they were like oh it says pro by zach on instagram pro by zack's phone oh my god they went to my gram and they're like we found your phone but um so i got the back then day three

tally yaway yeah i was at his set turning up crowd surfing if you look at the rolling loud uh like doing shit of Tyler's set, like, I'm like crowd surfing, and there's a hand that goes into my pocket. Just takes that shit. And they're pros of this shit. Yeah, so good at it. Like, bro, it's like butter. It's just gone. What a bunch of broke bitches. And then my find my iPhone so that shit went to China. Yeah, mine's in Florida. Yeah, mine's in Florida. Yeah, and my boy. Yeah, and my boy. Where did, uh, what's his name? He went, his phone got taken to Nevada. Yeah, like, yeah, most of them went. Yeah. Wow. What a shame. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's But now I got the 13 Pro Max.

Yeah. I remember mine getting taken. It was right after Trippy, so we were really high. And as we're coming out, everyone's leaving. So it's a mob of people. And I'm obvious, like, I felt my pocket. And I'm like, no way. And I felt it.

My phone's not there. And, like, I'm so reacting so slow. And I look at him, I'm like, my phone's gone, bro. And we stood in the Lost and Found line for hours. It wasn't even there. Like, there's been a couple places I've been in my life. Like, for instance, Spain and South Africa, where. They warn you so hard.

You will get pickpocketed here. So, you know, wear pants that have a zipper or, you know, have these little weird belts that you can put all your possessions in so that people can't steal it. I need to get one. I got this. It's clear. It's clear. Yeah.

That's smart, though, because everybody who got those little bags in L.A., people assume it's a gun. So they're not going to be able to assume that. That's pretty cool. Yeah. But anyway, like, yeah, like, in those countries, like, you just always have it in mind that you can get your shit took. It's fucked up that you might have to apply that same logic to go on a fucking

rolling loud because people are such dark bags out here. And the crazy thing is, is like, I got my phone snatched day one of rolling loud. And then day three comes and I'm like walking around like like this the whole fucking time. You know, like trying to make sure. He wouldn't even give it to me. He thought they were going to open my bag up and take it out. I'm like, and then I was like, fuck it. I'm not going to spend rolling loud like fucking skitsing out about this shit.

So I'm just like diving on the crowd. And that's when somebody had snatched my shit, you know? Right. But like, I don't know, someday I'm trying to play rolling loud. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not trying to just be in the audience, like, only, you know? I think if you've had a no drummer interview, though, booking on rolling loud. Yeah.

That's all it takes. I've been commented on rolling loud shit. I'm performing. And they're like, where? Yeah, where. And I'm like, everywhere. Everywhere. I'm like, I'm performing everywhere.

You just, you know the founder, Terrick? Yeah, I follow him on Instagram. Definitely. Yeah. Just goat, no cap. Just remind them over and over and over. You're the goat. You'll probably eventually just give in.

Derek to go no cap. Yeah. You already know. Yeah. I don't know. It might work. I'm trying to pop out to the Miami one, you know. From your perspective as somebody who's going to rolling loud as a fan, what is your overall

like satisfaction level with it? Because I feel like I don't really get a real perspective on it because I'm kind of like backstage and shit. And I'm like, I wonder as a fan how you enjoyed it. I mean, so I don't just look at it as a fan, but as someone who's played hundreds of shows. Right. So like for me, I feel like I feel like. I'm kind of in the middle between where you're at and a fan.

Right. So, like, for me, I'm like, this is fucking lit. And I'm like, oh, that sound guy just fucked up. But that kind of adds to the aesthetic of this whole thing. Like, I think, I mean, rolling loud's a good fucking time, you know? Like, I went to the New York one and the Cali one. Right. And now I'm going to be going to the Miami one for the first time.

So, I don't know, rolling out is a good ass time. Like, for me, it's easy to go to a concert or a show and, you know, spend a couple hours watching some bands or rappers or whatever and have a good. time and that the whole thing with rolling loud is that it's so much of a good thing that it's kind of overwhelming you know it can be yeah i see what you're saying but three stages for up with like 12 hours like oh we got to run over to see kick cuddy it's kind of like yeah i don't know like even just standing up for that long well for me it's refreshing because you're high or drunk you don't really feel well not for not even just that for me it's like rolling loud is my new warp tour

i grew up going to work tour so for me that was hot as fuck and i went to roll out new york York in December or not December October and then December was Cali so for me it's like this is like a more comfortable warp tour you know what I'm saying so I feel like it's just all good vibes you know I'm saying like right I don't know I love festivals you guys are getting fucked up the whole time they're out there yeah yeah I was like that's what I answer that's always the thing of wrong about too though is at a certain point you're like watching like some girls get dragged out you're just like oh fuck yeah yeah I was puke me. Yeah. Oh yeah. Was that Skies? No, yeah, it was skies. Yeah, it was skies. Yeah, she's like, she's like opening up the pit and I'm like, let's fucking go. I'm ready to open this shit up. Like, and then she's like, no, no, her friend's like, no, no, no, she's going to throw up any second. I'm like, oh shit. So I'm backing up, opening the pit up. What?

All over the fucking. He like dabbs her up. And then I daft her up right after. And I was like, she was chill. She was like, I'm good. She started drinking again. Yeah, yeah. He's rolling out. Yeah. It was right before a little sky. I feel like there's two types of people when it comes up puking when you're drunk and there's people who like just do it and it's like that just fixes everything. That was that to life. Myself, if I'm drinking and I puke, the night is over. Yeah, me too. The large percentage of the next day is over. Like I cannot function. I would go find a bench and curl up in a ball.

I've never thrown up from drinking. Wow. I don't know. I've gotten to the point where I feel like I'm fin and throw up soon, but I don't know. When I think about the times I threw up, it was. was mostly like drinking and then doing shots on top of a bunch of beer or drinking and then I fucking start smoking a ton of beer. I start facing fucking cigarettes.

The cross thing. I mean, but like for me when that happens to me it gets to that point, I'm just like hiccup the whole night. Like everyone's like, oh my God, he's better throw up. And I'm like, no, not. Like, and then yeah, I get thrown out of it. Not even Virginia? No, I never thrown up.

I didn't even hiccup that night. New Year's Eve. I mean, you're acting like I remember New Year's Eve. Yeah, that was crazy. I don't know. Like, I don't know. Do you think there's a chance that Kanye just like sees your comments? He reposted it.

He reposted it twice. Wait, and said what? Well, it was like a screenshot of my comments, two different ones. One was before Donna two dropped. I said, yay, we need that Drake feature on Donna II and tagged him. Champagne Poppy, you know, Instagram. He posted that. And then I said, you know, everybody's always like saying,

Ye's like crazy and all this. So I was like, bro, like, yay's just doing his thing out here. like everybody's acting like he's crazy they just don't understand the level of like you know artistic like genius that he's on so he posted that too so i mean he's seen probably by zach yeah i mean he said thank you for my fan supporting me yeah on the caption wow look at that but are you just like waiting for him to fly you out and like see like you think you could thrive and last in that sort of kanya collective world where he's got like i need to transition writers and artists and musicians and everybody's just working on stuff together like i would be so

intimidated entering that world like how the fuck do i fit in what am i going to do a podcast it doesn't intimidate me because i've been doing this we've already been doing that with chasing chasing was a whole it's a band so it's a collective thing so it's this is not overwhelming to me because i i mean to be real this ain't no accident like i've been grinding this shit out for a long time tried different ways what's that expression throw shit to the wall wait till sun sticks grind like this to shine like this yeah well i love that who said never heard that before but i love that. Oh, is that meat?

Grined like this. To shine like that. Yeah. Yeah. No, seriously. But I don't know. This isn't an accident. And I've been grinding, trying to get eyes on me.

And this happened to be the thing that did it, you know? Are you religious? Spiritual. I was raised Christian, but I'm spiritual. If Kanye told you not to have sex while you were working with him, would you just abide by that? Sure. I mean, it might just be. Yeah, that's cool.

It might be the case regardless. I'd be like, yeah. Like, why not? Like, I mean, bro. Just not get late. That's convenient. I mean, probably it'd be worth it in end. Yeah, music is life, man.

Music is life. Yeah, facts. Yeah, I don't know. Before all of this cracked up, though, would you have described? Would you have seen yourself gone viral for the Kanye fandom? Or were you just as big a fan of a whole shiller or other artists? And this has just happened to be the one that really took off. I'm a big fan of a lot of artists.

I don't think that I didn't really know what was going to pop off. I knew something was going to pop off eventually with the way I've been hustling for years. like playing shows recording music hell of videos all different genres like at a certain point something's gonna happen you know what i mean so it's like this is just the moment i just been waiting for you watch that conya documentary i watched part one watching part two tonight while i yeah yeah two and three is when it really gets gone but it's so inspirational yeah it's fucking crazy yeah we're definitely i've been seeing a lot of shit yeah yeah i watched part one a genius you didn't watch any of it huh yeah i got to start from part one it's yeah

It's crazy. Even just seeing part one, I was like, damn. Like, because that dropped, like, right when this whole thing started blowing up. So, like, I was like, that's cool, you know. It'll justify you in your drive. Because you're watching him just have these dreams and this belief in himself. And it's like, you know, it's so strange watching it now, knowing that he really was the superstar. Became a goat, no cat.

But nobody believes in him. And you see it. You see that some people believe in him. And they believe, they'll believe in him a little bit. But they don't believe him in the whole way, like the way he believes in himself. And then just sort of watch it. But you also see him getting like really intoxicated on the fame and everything. And you see him being a dick to his old friends and all this shit.

And it's just fucking crazy, do it? It's a beautiful thing, man. I don't know. It's insane to see him where he was to be in a spot like us where it's not as huge. And then he becomes this huge superstar. It's just like the dream, the life, like of just having music. I mean, if you become Farrell, they're going to be looking back. on this interview in the

prod by Zach documentary like holy shit he knew way before anybody else I'm confident in this shit because I've been working on in a long time yeah man he taught me everything I know like I wouldn't know anything if it wasn't for him like it's my best friend we do everything together

with music so I mean we just be going out with our boys camera recording all these videos and shit and lately I've been dropping a video every week every week or two so right now I'm just applying pressure like crazy man like really just putting that work in trying to move out to LA in the next year or two.

Nice. Yeah. Yeah. I could see it. Yeah. I think you'd do well out here. Thanks, man. I mean, we need people who are genuinely excited about the music and what's going on.

That's all I give a fuck about. There's so many people that are like, they move out here and they just kind of get burnt the fuck out on everything pretty quickly. Yeah. Definitely. What, um, okay. Other artists that you're massively, you're a massive fan. I feel like the Kanye thing worked because he was never an Instagram guy. Then all of a sudden.

he just starts going hard as fuck on Instagram. And when he followed all the people and shit, and I was one of the people, that drove my attention towards him. Right. Because I just feel like Kanye is a person who just will, like, incrementally just like decide, like, oh, this social network,

like, this is going to be my thing for a little while. Yeah, because he did that with Twitter for a little bit too. His Twitter was, you know, he's so good at taking over the whole conversation. He's actually laying low right now in comparison. He is a little bit of it. He hasn't been posting much the past week or so. Yeah.

But, I mean, you said, what are my biggest inspirations? Like, Kirk Cobain, Nirvana, man, that's like my guy, you know what I mean? Are you in his comments? Hell yeah. I actually am. He's got an Instagram. That's what I'm saying. All these dead performers have Instagrams now, right?

Yeah, man. I mean, like, I like a lot of old posty, post Malone, you know, juice, RIP, you know, big influence, all that old Eminem, like I was telling you. I just my shit's all over the place honestly though you know right like I had a grunge band when I was in high school a grunge band grunge band it feels like that was a little late in the grunge cycle I didn't give a fuck I just love music so I was like 14 with a guitar and a mic and I was like garage band yeah on the Mac I was like fuck it I'm just the name music that sounds like oh I'm gonna make a garage yeah I was like I like I like I like marvana and shit so I'm gonna just like make a fucking band like that and then when I became like 17 18 I was like fuck it like this shit's out like

nobody listens to Grunge. Like it's fucking, what, 2014 at the time. So I was like, I'm just going to do this metal core shit. Is that why you came to chasing? Yeah. Because he didn't want to join at first. Like, I didn't even know him. I knew, I knew his other friend, uh, because I was in, in high school automotive shop with him. And he was just like, yeah, my boy's really good at guitar. He could come play with us. He did not like that music. And eventually he did. Thank God he did. Because I mean, you know. And then I got into the whole, I mean, I've been into like rap, hip hop and shit throughout my childhood. I used to play Marshall Madher. they'll be in the car and shit.

So like, so like, then I just kind of did like a, it's like a full circle moment, you know, started doing hip hop shit like 2018-ish and I put out a song and it did decent numbers, got like almost 200K on Spotify and shit and I had you stream the video on live stream, you know, pay the 100 or whatever. And yeah, I mean, ever since then I've just been grinding out this fucking music shit, you know? Right. I got YouTube friends who put my music in their fucking songs. and shit that kind of give me a boost yeah well like today's song of the day is proud by

not even like that's intro outro is my song and then they put in the link you know nice my fucking song that's dope i was wonder how well it works when people do that like i got a big boost i got oh that not that i never done that my boy i mean it's actually like a homie type thing it's like i'm gonna just put my my my boy's song in the fucking description right you know right i interviewed a dude and then i was watching an older video about something completely unrelated it on somebody's YouTube channel and I see him doing the song of the day thing and that was the first time that I ever saw somebody do the song of

the day promotion thing and actually like then ended up getting enough notoriety that I actually wanted to because sometimes the song of the day in people's YouTube videos it looks kind of corny. Yeah it's like you're really going to make some of this shit clearly promotion too. Yeah

I feel like it's got to be natural and it's like oh you're watching a YouTube video about fucking young thug oh you want to listen to this random guy for a minute. Yeah I feel like like that's anything in entertainment it's gotta be natural it can't be like that's literally just everything if it's not natural people know it's not natural and they're gonna pick up on that it's just people want shit that you got fake followers no no hell real i've been on instagram since 2014

really i got my my start on instagram when we were playing a lot of metal shows and shit you know um just i would mass dm people man like dm like check out our music literally go through comments of people's related music and be like hey hey, I've seen you like this, you know, maybe you like this. You know what I mean? That's real not working. One by one. I made friends out of it, too.

That's the crazy part. Like, people that I still am chill with, you know? So I was really, it's no different than handing out flyers back in the day. Like, I've been grinding this shit. I've been trying every different way that I could to get some sort of exposure. That's what I respect. So, and then this is just, this is just what I've been doing lately. And it's clearly doing something.

Definitely. I mean, there's so many people out there make it. fan pages and there's just like and hate pages hate pages too oh my god they're gonna have a field day with this yeah shout out my haters bro y'all really my my biggest fans low key facts it's like let me ask you did girls swim up in your dms as a result of this new family yeah especially recently really three three four weeks you they can't get to conier they want to get to you it's not even just conier it's i mean it's like girls like girls that i was chill with and now it's like oh my god like let's go here and i'm like oh no like because you didn't say it had a month ago you know you know

Like, you know, it's just regular shit that happens when shit blows up. Right. Like with anybody, regardless of I feel like how it came about, that's just how it goes. But you know what? I think we had this conversation about somebody recently and somebody said, don't block your blessings. As in when you get on and girls start throwing pussy at you, don't be like, oh, you didn't want to fuck with me before because you weren't the dude before, there you are now.

So you know what you do? You beat them cheeks down. And then you don't call it back. I respect it. I have been telling you that, bro. I respect it. That's what I would do about the situation. Why not?

I mean, if it's falling in your lap, that's just me. If it's falling in your lap, you may as well take it. And what about Julia Fox? Do you think that you might have a chance dating her? I mean, she's not with Yeh anymore,

so he can't even get mad at it. Yeah, don't you think? I said she's Lula Lox, you know, L's? Like, L? You think she's an L? No, I don't think she's an L. But I think Kanye's a win. W.

He's Waneh West and she's Lulia Lox. disrespect, Lulia, but it's like Lulia. What the fuck? Wandae, Wes. Oh my God. So you really feel like you can't have like an opinion about anything that kind of's going on?

I totally have an opinion. You can't be like, you know, feel sympathy for Kim or anything? No, no. I just think it's none of my business. I don't, I don't actually, it's not that I feel like I can't have an opinion. It's that I don't necessarily have an opinion. Like, Kim, if

you're talking about Kim, like, I don't know. I never watched the Kardashians and shit. But I don't give a shit about it. Anything about her besides what I've seen in the news over the course of the past couple months. You know? Me neither. I mean, you can't escape the whole Kardashian Jenner name. Like, he's everywhere.

You know, magazines in the store and shit. Like, you can't escape it. But I've seen Kim in real life one time. Where at? Wyoming. Yeah, Wyoming? That's not where I was. Ranch.

Oh, you went to his ranch. Her butt is like. It's fucking. Out there. Out there. Yeah. Yeah, that's crazy. I was kind of like, whoa.

I've always kind of been curious. how she would look proportionally in person. But that was the weird thing, too, is I've heard her talking about herself on a podcast describing herself as so thick and, like, you know, curvy. And I was like, I've seen you in real life and you look like pretty fucking small. Aside from the modifications that you put in there. She got real tiny waste. I don't know.

Yeah. But she was small ass waste, but big old fake ass. And like, I don't know. Maybe there was another time in her life where she was more curvy. Because she didn't really occur to me to be curvy at this time. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know.

I mean, I was at the 2018 VMAs backstage. I got like, it was like a raffle. Wow. Yeah, the love. I have, I have good luck. I have such good luck. I have good luck.

And I feel like I'm, I don't know, I just end up places. So 2018 VM, yo, get this. So I was, I was backstage,

right? And before you go through the security, the metal detectors, all that, there's like a long line, double file line to, you know what I mean? So like,

I look to my left and Juice World's like in the line with me. Wow. what I mean but at the time I knew juice world I mean you gotta think he just popped off at that point you were in his comments no you didn't know about this yet I wasn't really grinding the comments 2018 but uh so I mean I listen to lost opportunity yeah so like I listened to his music at the time you know the hits because I hadn't caught on big time by the VMAs in 2018 it's a juice but he was to my left like double file line so it's literally like this like this is juice you know what I'm saying so like we're there like 10 minutes and then at a certain point like

security guard or whatever grabs him and they just go inside and he performs or whatever the fuck like you know what I'm saying like I missed my shot that's like a regret what would you have done though I mean fuck like Jews like what's good man you to go no cat like what do you mean I just wish I could have just said what's up you know yeah he's gone now you know I see famous people all the time and I don't say shit to him because I can't think anything good to say I feel like I'd be pretty good just say what's up just say hello you say to go to a cat yeah yeah I feel like a dishbag if I was just like, what's up? It's all about how you go into it.

Because people come up to me all the time and say weird shit. Oh, what kind of weird shit do you here? The other day a guy came up to me and he goes, oh, we meet again. This guy's so, I was in Vegas. This fool was blatantly coked out of his fucking mind. His shirt was too tight. Yeah. And he goes, oh, we meet again.

And I look at him like, for some reason, him saying to that to me just made me want to beat this shit out of him. And I'm just like, what? Yeah, because it's like a fight. And he goes, he goes, oh, you're stoned. And I'm like, oh, that's weird. Even that, I'm like, what? I would have walked away.

And then he goes, and then he goes, what was the fucking final line that he had? The final, like the finisher. Oh, no, no, no, he goes, I love your voice. And then he just walks away. No, that's weird. Oh, no, no. I wouldn't have done that. I'm like, I'm really glad we're on camera in this fucking casino because I really like to smack you for talking to me like that, you weird.

I'm assuming you just walked away at that point. I was playing roulette, so I couldn't even walk away. Yeah. That's the worst he knew you were pinned. That's so uncomfortable. man, I don't like situations like that. But I get where he's coming from because it's like, okay, he probably watches the podcast or whatever and he wants to say something to me.

Now he's out of his mind off cocaine, so it's not like a great position to be in to say something to me. But like I can empathize with how awkward this is because it happens to me all the fucking time. People just come up to me and are just like, can I have a photo? That's crazy. I can tell how awkward they feel because I feel it too. That's the thing.

Like, I feel like if you approach somebody like big, like you can't be like on a fan type mentality you've got to approach them like I mean we're all normal people just different jobs at the end of the day and people got to realize that like putting people on pedestals don't matter who you are don't matter how famous you are at the end of the day we're all people

we all came out of a fucking pussy at the beginning this fucking journey then we're all going to be dying the same way so you weren't a test tube baby nah it's good to know no I don't think so at least yeah we don't know I always wanted to be one but yeah I don't know be cool but

okay so what What's your game plan going forward? What's the moves you're planning on making coming up? I'm going to keep applying pressure. I'm booking shows as soon as I get back to Jersey. Booking shows. West Coast, East Coast. It doesn't matter.

Bigger the opportunity, the more likely, you know, I'm going to take it. Like, I'm just trying to put out a music video every week or two with a song and just keep applying pressure. You know, I mean, right now, I guess I'm going to keep up with these comments right now. But that's not a long run type goal. Maybe it is. Just keep going forever.

I guess I shouldn't shut nothing out. You know I have the ultimate fucking cheat code for that, but I never use it. Is that Drake follows me? Because you can only comment on his shit if he follows you. Really? So he'll have a post with 2 million likes and 50 comments. But I also like, I feel like. You don't want to get into that.

Because if I say something corny, it's going to really stand out because there's not that many comments. He gets like what 30 comments a post. Exactly. But once I'm my comments is something and he gave me a LOL. You met Drake. Oh, really? That's tough. Yeah.

Yeah, where'd you mean I meant? A battle rep event. Were you rapping? No. Why not? Because I'm not a rapper. Anyone can rap. That's the new generation.

That's the new generation. He's like, you're not a rapper? Why? How? I feel like we could all wrap. It's no different than talking. You just got to rhyme the last word. I can rap.

I'm just choosing not to. I'm assuming you could. So he wasn't battle rapping. No. He was just watching. He was just watching it. Yeah. I mean, these guys are fucking insane.

Were they big rappers? It's like eight mile. Eight mile. Yeah, literally. Dicaghti was headlining this shit. Yeah, and he's pretty much the biggest guy on the West Coast right now. That's crazy. Yeah.

Yeah. He's mean as fuck. Yeah, he's got bars. He'll talk about your fucking mom. Talk about your kids. Yeah, yeah. Terrible things. I seen you posted, uh, you got like a battle rap thing going on.

What is it every Monday now? We can get you on there. Yeah. He could freestyle. I would totally get on here. Yeah. I fly back out. We got to get your battle rap credentials up because they're kind of.

What you need me to do? You need me to go in. I'll go to Camden and freestyle. We live there. Yeah, we're in the Camden, Philly area, South Jersey. Now I know you're certified. Yeah. Because that's not...

We're not from Camden. We're not from Canada. But you can go there. We go there, yeah. But like... Pretty valid. Yeah, you've been in Camden? I've been all over Jersey.

I've been in Brooklyn for like seven years. So I was over there a bunch. You say you from Boston, right? Outside Boston, but, yeah. I never been to Boston. Oh, it's the best. Yeah. I heard that the street signs are confusing.

Like, it's like everything's a puzzle. It's like a maze. Like, you can't just turn left. Like, you got to make three rights just to make that one left. it's not true I don't like Boston sports I don't know I mean let me tell you that

like any city you go to parking and like driving in general it's kind of confusing until you get going like fucking all the signs when people come to Hollywood they always can't figure out where the fuck they can park because there's a million parking exempt like ticket like you can't park in a lot of areas unless you live there

it's weird how every big city has their own you know reason why it's hard to drive like I driven through Times Square fucking six of clock rush hour traffic and it's just tough because you got to make sure you're paying attention because there's like two inches between you and the car behind and in front of you you know what I'm saying but like then you go to like LA and it's difficult because there's red lights and you're catching every red light and people are cutting you off trying to get to that right turn and shit you know

I mean Philly's not that bad though I don't think yeah it's not that bad except you're gonna get shot fucking yeah that's crazy as fuck yeah no yeah I was just at you ever been to Gino's steaks oh I don't know it's like one of the steak places in Philly no I was there eating a fucking steak like three six months ago something like that and there's literally duct tape or what's the caution tape like from like you ever see CSI and shit like fucking the tape like somebody died there someone just got shot there like the day before type shit and the tape was still there we're just in there eating steaks that fuck up your mood for the cheese steak no it's Philly okay so it's a killer

man knowing what the fuck I was gonna do chili that steak was fire you ate your fucking steak with the smell of the dead body answering your Oh, no, there was no, that was no, that shit. Cheat steaks are too good, bro. Whiz, Witt, peppers and onions. No other way. There you go. I used to always get cheesesticks from Wawa,

and now people tell me that I was really blowing it. I still get them. I mean, there's, like, wawas every corner. Because you're there. Yeah, so, like, I mean, it's like 20 hours, too. I used to rob that shit blind. I'd be shablifting everything. Wow, bro.

That's the one thing about the West Coast, like, if I move out here, when I move out here, like, wow, bro. That shit, hold this supposed to place in my heart. Like, my last video, like we shot it in a wawa the milk that's where the milk comes from you're saying like there you go it's valid yeah it's valid for sure i appreciate you guys uh coming on it's a good appreciate you bringing i feel like they're definitely gonna be looking back on this in the

pro by zac documentary one they're gonna be looking back on this uh after the the monday uh rap battles i'm ready we're gonna be there let's do it yeah we appreciate you appreciate you guys for thank you so much pro by zack no jumber coolest podcast no world took us on on youtube ticot Patreon, all that shit, like, comment, and subscribe, nojumber.com if you'll want to support. Appreciate y'all. We lit. Thank you, Adam. Thank you, thank you.