No Jumper - The Ralfy The Plug Interview: Being Drakeo's Brother, Getting 10 Years for Fraud & More

Episode Date: May 31, 2021

Ralfy The Plug talks about his upbringing, his style, how he and Drakeo influenced the LA scene, relationship with Shoreline, Greedo, Ketchy and more! https://www.instagram.com/ralfytheplug/ ----- CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5tesvmDS8h50LkjnSAWMOs?si=j6sJD6DkR4mk5NZZWnlK7g FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/nojumper iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/no-jumper/id1001659715?mt=2 Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFICIAL http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumper coolest podcast in the world. And today I got my buddy. Yeah, it is. My girl's cousin. Hattah ha ha ha ha. Ralphie, the plug is in the building. How you feeling, man? Oh, man, you know, I'm just hanging out like wet towels and all that.

Yeah, man. You were one person that I really thought I wasn't going to see for like 10 years. So I feel very lucky to even be doing this interview, given that your time on the street was not guaranteed at all. At all. Not at all. But, you know, we got about that day. at here now. Yeah, definitely. How the

fuck did you get out? I thought it was some COVID shit. Yeah, COVID. Fuck it. Well, I was supposed to get out probably this year around this time. So the 10 years thing was, what was that? I took 10, but I was in jail for like there three years, so they doubled it up, then all the little enhancements, all that shit came off.

Right. So then that Kobe hit, and they really kicked me up out there. Damn, that shit is crazy. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, because I mean, we were all that was actually one thing I regret it, because I made that video about Draco. I was planning on, like, you know what, I'm going to make another video about the rest of the stinks who got caught up in the same situation, and then I ended up making it. And then I hear that you're getting out, and I'm like, God damn it, I didn't even have a chance to make the video about them while you were still locked up.

Everybody knew I was getting out. Yeah. At least I did. You have faith? Yeah, I knew about charges. I know what I did do. Right. I always liked the mental image that I got from reading about that, though.

Ralphie mudwalking through Nordstrom's just fucking making purchases on somebody else's I don't know how in depth we want to go here Now this high-ass, nigga want to hit me up Who? Drake-ah, yeah. Oh, for real? What's shit in there?

God damn. What's he on? What's life like for him? Money, he gets richer the motherfucker. For real. That's crazy. Too much, buddy. So, okay, take me back to Ralphie the Pug's childhood.

I want to know about the early days of your life. Shit, I was always, you feel me? getting money really since the beginning of the darn shit since from elementary to selling you feel me Kool-aid and gummy worms and chips and shit So you had the hustler spirit So the point you were doing that like super early on

No cap Since then Dice game you know you know you're Flamming and shit You know oh man yeah I don't know You gotta tell me what we can't talk about Because you know I want to know everything about flu flamming I mean you know I'm but talk about it but you know

If they know they know Right So, okay, but what area specifically are you growing up in in L.A.? And is Drago older than you? Yeah, older about like a year and a half. Okay. It's crazy because me and my son, our sons, is the same age apart as me and him. Wow.

Oh, God. That's crazy. You guys didn't do that on purpose, like, coordinate your sexual activity or something shit. I guess they want to try to recreate the truth again. The Lord, like, you know, he wouldn't want to see that happen twice. Hmm. You know?

That dynamic, yeah. So what was your upbringing like, though? Like, it's just really, really hard for me to imagine you and Draco as like a little badass kids and what you were running around doing or what your upbringing was like and everything. I mean, shit, we was, really it was like, you know, we was the same age kind of, so, you know, we was both bad as hell. But, you know, I was probably looking at little shit doing shit he was doing, you know. But we're the same age, so we probably was doing that at the same time.

Right. He was just doing it first probably. And so, I mean, when you say that, like, you had a hustler spirit early on, it's kind of funny because, like, you know, there's not a lot of rappers who come out of L.A. that aren't, like, associated with the gang shit so much. That's always been something that, like, stood out about y'all. Would you say that that was because you were just so focused on money and hustling that by the time you even started to think about that, it was almost like... I mean, that, too, and at the same time, shit. I was doing bad shit before these niggas was gay man, so I was already going to jail and shit. So I didn't have the game. I already seen what it was before, you feel me, I got to experience all that type of shit. So I didn't really have the game bang or nothing like that. When you first get locked up?

Shit, when I was 11. 11? For what? Matter of fact, me and Drakego had our first case together. Together, out 11? Yeah. What were you guys doing together? Bullshit, tipped the robbery, bullshit, little shit.

Oh, really? Yeah, bullshit. So is there armed attempts a robbery? No, hell no. Not at 11. They get armed at 11. It's in Chicago, dude. We ain't out here just tripping like that.

Hell no. That's a different level? Mm-hmm. For sure. Okay, so what happened in that case? Shit, nothing. House of rest, you know, they can't do none of young knees. They didn't go anywhere?

Yeah, they didn't do shit, house arrest, probation and shit. We all rapping and shit from? No, hell, no. It was bad. That's when we was bad. Stealing bikes and shit, scooters and shit, you know, stealing candy out of the store. Okay.

But you weren't thinking about rap that much at that time? Not, hell, no. I don't even remember who was rapping back then. That was, that's so long ago. Right. Okay. And then so what happens? Y'all just started jerking crew together?

Jerking, that came like after a couple of camp programs, then in the midst of that. Then they, you know, jerking just hit the scene. Then there are all the little kids, the bad little kids. Now they got something to do. That's what it seemed like. Right. And so now they just dancing instead of stealing shit.

But now they're doing it all together, stealing shit and dancing. Yeah. Did you embrace that, though? The only way to get some pussy back then? I mean, it was fun. The whole movement was fun, you know? It was that shit. Right.

It was fun. You could just meet up. That's when life was just you only had to do nothing. You can just meet up 20 thick and hop on the bus. Everybody hop on the bus together, tight shit. Yeah. You only have to worry about nothing. You knew, life was like them you're free.

Right. Yeah. It's weird how that sort of like happened and then it just sort of went away in terms of LA. Yeah, because everybody grew up. They started getting older and shit. Oh, niggas ain't getting no money on this shit. Niggas ain't doing nothing this shit. He's just dancing around grown as fuck.

Well, okay. Let me know. Like, probably a lot of people who stopped being with the jerking shit didn't go to making money that went to like a bunch of violence and bullshit. That realistically the dancing would have been better, right? Yeah. Well, we went straight to money. But we was already getting money, but we went like just directly straight to this.

You know, that's when Stink Team, too greedy, all that shit came about. Right. Okay. So, yeah, talk about the early days of y'all getting into music. Who was leading the charge? Was Draco more interested in music, and then you got into it after? Yeah, hell, yeah, Draco and Catch you, don't let it great.

They was like, you know, being freestyle in the house and shit, you know, just doing a little shit. And then, you know, everybody would be throwing their little two cents in. But Drago was, like, probably the first one to actually, like, record a song. So then after that, you know, we just push it. Well, this shit hard to us. Oh, he recorded a song? We're listening to that shit.

That shit was hard. Right. So we just push him. And then later on the line, you know, I'm getting money too. I can talk shit. So I'm like, shit, I might as well start recording shit too. Was Draco like, because I just consider him to be one of the most unique, like standout L.A. rappers probably all time.

He might not necessarily always get the credit that he deserves. But did it stand out to you from super early on that like, damn, my brother is like really something special at this? He's been the hardest to me. Because I had to listen to it before it even got hot. Right. The shit been in the hard. And then how fast he'd do it.

He'd come up with five minutes. He used to just be sitting on the porch, smoking a cigarette, five minutes, come back inside. Like, oh, this and this. He got a gang of old-ass fucking videos on YouTube. Right. Talking crazy. Was your style always, like, pretty dark? Was that always the direction that you kind of went in?

I wouldn't say dark. I would just say it's like some nervous, nervous music. You know, it's like, our shit is, like, kind of like, it's unique. Like, it ain't dark. I wouldn't say dark. It's just what it is, like, that was actually going on in the L.A. Street. So it's like, there's no, you know, most people don't rap about what we rap about it. They sugarcoat it a little bit, or they don't code it.

You know, we kind of code it, kind of like for people who know what it is, they listen to it. And they're like, oh, yeah, that's that shit. I can tell they're really doing that shit. Because it's just a certain sound. Do you remember when you started saying nervous music, though? That was like, what? Oh, 13, 14. Yeah, because Draco, he has a little nervous music tape.

Him and Kills, free kills, they had the little tape. Definitely. Were you guys all about the slang even super early on? Oh, yeah, yeah, the slang, being what? Money Mosley, shit. That's what we've been, sipping buddy, bozzy and shit. Right. And then it just got colder.

The slang get colder. It seemed like it changed every mixtape if you really listen. Definitely. Do you feel like you would have got into rapping if it wasn't for him? Because I feel like you, you seem like kind of like a such as street guy. Yeah, I kind of like could have seen you not becoming a rapper if you didn't have that influence around you. Yeah, I mean, I probably wouldn't have been unless, you know, because all the catchy would have probably been rapping still. Because he just always wanted to just be like, you know, a finesse type of name.

So one of them would, you know, start rapping. And then I would have started rapping for show because I already been you know Freestyle and shit how how long have you known Ketchy what age do you meet him? Oh shit we all been knowing each other since like like a 13 12 type shit uh-huh side kick day jerking and all that shit right so everybody really been knowing each other for like man there more than like 10 years right right because I'm like 26 now so yeah how did Ketchie fit into the whole equation in terms of y'all starting out making music and stuff.

Like, where did he fall into that? Oh, he was a big piece because he was like one of the ones. He was, if he was on the first Mr. Yudup, and then, I don't know what happened. I guess something happened. And they put RJ and Choice on there. And I guess they took him off. But shit, he was like one of the first ones rapping. He was a part of the whole shit.

If he wasn't rap, I wouldn't start rapping. Really? Because me and him hopped on the first song, what was his thing team? That was like 2000. 2016, late 16, or early 16. There's just a song called Snink Team? Yeah, Stink. Well, it's like five, six songs

of course Sting, No Cap. It's like five, six. So was there a song called that before y'all started identifying as that? I mean, yeah, yeah, that's all right there. That's the song that got me, like, kind of moving everybody on all this shit. Yeah, it's hard.

Oh, we thought it was Draco. They ain't Draco. Oh, yeah, that d'all. Yeah, there's always that moment. That moment when you realize that, like, oh, there's a dope rapper that I fuck with but also his friends are dope too that's important okay when you look at uh that that time period where draco was like fucking with mustard and everything did that make you start thinking like

oh shit there's really a a future and this music shit for us i mean we already knew it's going you know when you know you like the truth it's like you just you already know even without that we we were we was already on the rise that's what made them notice is like you feel me because we was already going up right so you know But it must have been kind of bugged out. Like all of a sudden you're around, muster, you're around all these more famous dudes and shit. I mean, you kind of been around us.

You know, we don't really care about. Yeah. But there must have been a time period where you cared more. Because you really do seem like the kind of person that you can see a fucking 12 car collision right here. And you'd be like, damn, that's shit crazy. Whatever, I'm going to go back to this juice. No care.

I hear what you saying, though. But, yeah, yeah. We've seen the change. We've seen a change. like how fast shit was going from the numbers. Definitely. You know that making them feel good.

Could you tell from early on though that that situation wasn't going to work out? I mean, I don't even know what happened. They was just, I don't know. Niggas don't like to see, niggas hard, I don't know, Drake a hard. He can pressure a lot of people up. Yeah, and he's also like

not necessarily the easiest person for people that get along with. Like, you're his brother. Obviously, you've just always known him and shit, but I could definitely imagine he's gonna talk his shit so yeah yeah I mean he's like the ultimate like feelings hurt her with his music he's really gonna make you feel bad about yourself like even if you're not involved in whatever he made he makes shit seem less of what it is when it's some like oh damn man now the s 550 ain't cool like they're looking at the roys roys down the ass 550 ain't cool like he's like

he just makes shit like he be talking shit definitely no care for sure um okay so I don't know like around that time though where you your shit was blowing up but then you're still like fully in the streets right yeah i was still like really in the field still but was there ever like a moment where you're like all right we got we got to fall back a little bit i don't feel like you got you ever really like separated it that much i mean i still be kind of like you know playing this shit like i'm music all this shit is one thing to me it's like it go co-respond right hip-hop kind the streets fashion, like, the music, like, all this shit. Like, you know, it's tied in.

That is crazy because, like, when I'm listening to, like, I feel you on that because when I'm listening to you rap with dub and shit, and it's like, he's rapping about, he's saying, I made $20,000 off of Kroenax. And it's like, y'all really, like, it's crazy to see that one group of friends and everybody, like, hitting different levels. Yeah, for real. From different things. Okay, yeah, because when I got out of you, I'm like, damn, the homie in the parking lot,

that this thing is making like them, 10 beds in the parking lot. No cap. I'm like, I'm looking at this shit. Like, this shit crazy. I remember it was just the black just the awful lot. He got lighters and shit down. Look at this shit. This nigga goes crazy.

Nojumper.com. If you, yeah, I know, because like, I remember when they even introduced me to Desto, it was like, this is like the celebrity drank salesman. It was basically what they told me about him. And I'm like, oh, that's interesting. I wanted to meet him and shit. I don't even think he was doing the, no, he wasn't even doing the brand, but he had like the slogan.

He just got pulled over by the police, so that's when he made it, you know. You're going to really cap to my face and act like that was real? I think that was real. I ain't going to lie. Okay. He thinks I'm a different kind of white boy. He thinks I don't talk to anybody. I mean, maybe I was in jail and I got out again that time.

And when I was out, I see that shit. I'm like, oh, yeah, I hope he got some shit going, though. But I don't know if it was real. I'm going to wait until he's on the podcast to lay out. But I am aware of happening in how that came to be. No care. I might already be snitching on him too hard. He might be mad at me right now.

Here's a question. When you first experience lean? Mm-hmm. He said, Mm-hmm. Yeah, this shit good. Do you remember? Do you remember when you first experienced it?

Was it you or Drago? Me and Drago, well, Draco Ben's doing shit. From birth? That's why I said, no, not from her. It was in the bottle. It seemed like, you know, I think it's covered. it seemed like it yeah when did that happen but it was probably like 12 so he was if he was 12 then

I had to be younger I had to been like probably like 11 so that's when act was out niggas was getting that shit for like 25 a line yeah that shit was in the money really niggins didn't drink red and that and shit it was it was act and quality you feel me it was just act quality and jolly ranchers and shit if you wanted them type of need did that go away you never dropped the jolly ranchers ranchers in there? I mean, it seems like now it take away to taste. Nigger want to taste the lean now. So, niggas ain't trying to put no Jolly Ranch.

And it's already sweet enough. Yeah. You got to put more sugar in there? It's kind of crazy to me. Yeah, this shit good. You remember how you got it back of the day? Like, what was the method? I mean, it's the same. She's a shit. I've been, I really used to everybody know me. I'd be outside. I used to be outside the pharmacies, waiting on older people to come out. And I used to just buy it from, period. Buy it from them? Or?

I mean, shit. Yeah, buy it. front of my shit. As long as you're buying it and you're not pushing them down the staircase. I ain't trying to push the old people down those stairs. I'm a business man. I know you never have sold lien, but if you, I'm sure you've known lien salesmen in LA and stuff, like how do they acquire lien on average? Like what's the main methods that they're using?

I mean, shit. I don't know the methods. I just know. I know how to get my juice. You know, I just sit my shit, you know. I don't know what these people would be doing. I was kind of wondering, like, even the, because that's the one thing I'm going to lean this crazy is that people really will keep their methods a secret.

Like 100%. Yeah, they ain't trying to tell you how they, you know, these need to be re-rocking shit and all that type of weird shit. Right. I feel like there's a lot of dudes who just have like 20 girls with scripts and they just tap in with them every couple weeks. Or 20 grannies around the corner somewhere. It's either or.

Do you ever buy a lien off of a homeless person in Skid Row? Yeah, I probably don't do it. I don't want to throw a dove under the bus too bad, but... Yeah, some $20, a little juice, a little click little shit. I'd be cool, though. I've got a hundred for you, man. Give them some weed or something. Right.

But shit, these smokers in advance, the smoker told me $1,200 the other day. I'm like, God, damn, this bitch must have lost her mind. They know too much. Yeah, they know too much. These niggas done, I mean, stinks with the jill. The niggas done gave the smokers the sauce. They done gave everybody the sauce. They just started handing the sauce out.

There wasn't no cold. These niggas didn't know how to live without us, man. This shit funny. Yeah, you guys drink too much, Alene. I feel like you, like, single-handedly fucked up the market, huh? Yeah, but see, but we was keeping it fair. These niggas start going crazy. They got more juice and more money and raised the price.

That's backwards. You're supposed to lower the price. Now everybody got it. You're supposed to say it ain't nothing no more. You're supposed to lower it. These niggins went crazy. and raised it. Yeah.

That shit, that was backwards. Honestly, even when Lean was like 50, 60 a line, and I would always think that on my head, I'm like, bro, that price is kind of high, but it's so hard to get that I'm surprised that the price isn't higher because I know for a fact that motherfuckers would pay two or three times that, and then fast forward to 2021, and that's exactly what the cases. No cap.

Crazy. Yeah, I think it's be taxing. Definitely. I'm trying to deal with grannies and shit. I ain't trying to be dealing with these niggas, yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. That's not how you want to live.

Granny's gonna tell. Granny's shit, we just get, I'm getting high, man. I ain't doing nothing illegal here. I'm just doing what everybody else do. But no, all right, this might be too much for me as, but you ever really hear about people catching, like, big cases for drink? No, no. Right?

Isn't that weird? This is, they pour this shit out. That just seems like too much work. They don't really want to think about it. Yeah. By the time, but shit, I wish, what, as soon as they come, I'm a poor. That's a shit in one soda. I'd be high as a bitch.

So when do you remember that people around you started to get mixed up in the flu flamming and whatnot? And when that became a thing in L.A. I mean, shit, you know, everybody do what they do. I don't know, you know. I just know when I used to be doing shit, I just started doing when I do. You know, it just happened.

I've been doing it. You know, I didn't just, it was already happening. it just start happening every day all of a sudden. That's when it feels like as a once in a while thing, it feels like that might be sustainable but if you really like are doing it all the time,

it feels like that's not going to work out for too long. Oh no, hell no, I'm a rapper now. Right. Well, yeah, not now, of course. Yeah, that's what I said used to when I used to be, you know. I mean, you kind of seen scamming become part of the game over the years.

That shit got too big. I'm doing with this shit. Yeah. Has that been weird, though, to watch, like, you know, everybody was just getting money off drugs and whatever for a long time, and then all of a sudden people are taking on identities. At this point, it ain't even scamming, man. It's just like a fair exchange from the government to the people.

We appreciate it. Yeah. At this point, shit, everybody gets everybody. I got out of jail here, everybody, yeah. Definitely. All right, so when do you feel like your, Like, people really started paying attention to you. Obviously, Draco's, like, first of the door.

But when do you feel like you started really getting attention for your music as well as, like, the other Stink Team? Probably when he went to jail the first time we started fucking with, like, Grito and Shirton. And then you feel, we just fucking with him all the time. And when he got out, we kind of just plugged that in. So everybody was like, oh, yeah, Ralphie, Ralphie, Ralphie, Ralphie, Ralphie. And then Stink Team, Stinkton, and Space Ship, that was one of the big one. Spaceship, for a lot of, for you, for catchy. That was like a crazy-ass moment, really.

You know what I mean? So when it's the little buzz, we went right to deal. It was over with it. Damn. You remember how you got introduced to Shoreline? Yeah. Round around the studio, I think. Oh, for real?

Mm-hmm. Then we was at your shit, too. Yeah. That's my first man, Grito, too. At my shit? Yeah. That's actually crazy. Yeah.

I seen damn there right back there that whole week. I was fresh out. I'm just looking at the area. I'm looking at the world. I don't know the fuck of everybody out. What do you think of Grito when you met him? He was smoothed me. Grito smooth.

Yeah. But he's like the craziest ball of energy you ever been around your life. For sure. You could never forget that he's there for 30 seconds. No cap. Definitely. Yeah, because, okay. You're saying you met him the day that you came to do the interview with Drago, or was it another time around?

No, it was before. It was, it was TK. It was out there. Rang, Rang, pull it up, short line. I think Trippie was out there Oh, that did This was like before, yeah, yeah, yeah I think pump pulled up

This when everybody was like regular still Mm-hmm I'm fresh out And you're, but you know You're like, oh, we're doing some shit now Grito is kind of blown up Matter of fact Yeah, he just built out

Definitely That was crazy when I look back at that Because that interview I did with you guys For some reason I was like the one interview ever Where like nobody remembered to turn the light on So it was mad dark. No, it was. If you watched the interview, it's really dark for some reason,

and nobody thought of it the whole time. And that actually, I feel like with you and Draco, that really kind of fit your vibe. A couple of dark dudes. Slip my wrist emo vibes, you feel me? You feel me? Definitely. Okay, so, yeah, I mean,

how serious do you feel like you take the music? When I'm looking at YouTube and shit on my day, he very consistently drops. See, now I got it to the point where I'm looking at this. This shit like a whole money chart. Like you build me, I see the numbers. I see Drake. I see how he do it shit.

I look at his fit. If I drop double the songs is him and just do half the numbers on each tape, shit. I can damn every be in the same amount just by dropping more shit. By then, shit, the numbers are going to add up because before I went to jail, I had no distro kid and that shit. So I was just dropping shit. I wouldn't know no fucking shit. But now I'm looking at this shit like, oh, I can get paid.

Fuck, I'm gonna make my own YouTube account. Flood them. My shit, that shit started going up kind of fud them. Then I'm just gonna drop a ganga shit on this. Okay, I drop a five mixtapes in right now. And you're just checking the analytics, just seeing that shit growing and growing. My shit going up, my, my, my listeners going up, everything going up. And I'm just shit, the checks keep coming too.

So I'm just like, fuck I'm gonna keep dropping. I love hearing rapists talk about that because it's the exact same thing with me and the YouTube. But it's like a lot of rappers, like, you know, even like four or five years ago, it's like the path to making money off music was a lot more complicated. And now to just have the Spotify shit and everything so organized. And it's like, it's just really good to see people be able to realize, like, oh, if I keep dropping, I'm going to keep growing these checks on shit.

Hell yeah. That's the only math I know. Shit, that wasn't hard. Definitely. So how did you find out about this case that y'all collectively caught around that time that we're talking about when everything was sort of blown up. You're talking about shit, I don't know. They just locked her ass up.

They weren't a warning or nothing. I thought I was supposed to be on tour. We drove all the way out there for nine hours just to drive back 12 hours on the bus. Stop at that bullshit-ass fucking restaurant. That shit, that nigga, stomach hurting. Where did they get you? From San Francisco. So you went all the way up there just to get arrested for shit in L.A.?

thinking we cool, we Instagram, playing 2K and shit. You feel, we go to the little bullshit ass bus and shit. We're playing 2K and shit. We drive all the way out there and get this room. As soon as we check in, we're chilling and shit. I'm pulling my juice, put it in the freezer at this point. I'm trying to wake up, and you feel me, start my day. Man, the niggas knocking on the door.

I'm thinking this the homie's playing. They open the door. I'm laying on the bed. I look up in, police coming. I'm like, I'm like, ah, man, this is a bull shit. laying outside. T towels and shit, no clothes, all this shit. I was like, oh, they ain't playing.

They tripping. Wow. Well, they got dirt bikes with helmets on them. I'm telling you, no cap. I saw the guy. It was like some movies. I ain't never seen no shit like the nigga. They put us in it.

You know the little band that they, you see NWA, the little bullshit band that you, they put you in. You kind of like, I don't know, I don't know what kind of movie. Yeah, MWA, that's the perfect movie. When they went in there after the, when they shut their little showdown, right. police threw them in a little shit. It was like a van like that.

They put this in one of the motherfuckers. I'm like, what the fuck type of bullshit is this? And they don't even tell you what you're caught up for? Man, hell. No, they like, yeah, that shit was funny. I ain't going to say too much. So you're thinking about every illegal thing you ever did in your whole life? No, I knew what time it was because we just got out of jail the first time.

So I'm like, okay, these niggas pride on this bunk shit. They kept talking about some burglaries and shit. I'm like, man, not me. I don't know what you're talking about them. You did a good job keeping your mouth shut and all that. Oh, you come on, man. Ain't nothing happened. I ain't got to keep my mouth shit.

It's funny talking to you because I always like, I never look at you and think, oh, he looks like Draco. But while sitting here talking to you, it's like certain smiles you hit. I'm like, oh, right? They are related, yes. Genetics. Crazy. How did you feel when you found out that they were going to be trying to use all this crazy-ass gang shit against y'all for a rap group.

They tried to do it the first time. That's the thing. But we beat it the first time. They dropped it the first time. That's why we got out of jail. Oh, okay. And then they tried to hit us with the same fucking charges and then chumped them up with way more and shit and basically hit us with the gang again.

So I guess they're like, oh, shit, well, I guess with all it is, we could put a game type shit. Bullshit. It was, it was on my case. It was only three people. It was like 40, 50 charges type of shit. Right. Like, God damn.

They talked to John Godius. But do you, like, did it feel kind of ironic that you guys know that you're like the outliers in L.A.? Like everybody else is all like very clearly associated with gangs, whatever. You presumably are thinking this is a good thing that you've kind of avoided at least publicly like associating yourself with that. And then all of a sudden they're using that to try to give you crazy-ass numbers. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I'm like, damn, me. Shit, the game game game game gets the whole life,

but then y'all are going to try to whip a nigga hit that thing with the game bang and that's a week. Yeah, that shit is crazy. So you're in prison and fighting your case, or had you already been sentenced when Draco beat his first case, but they didn't let him out and made him fight it all over again? Yeah, I was already in the pen. But you're in there.

Did you already, like, had you already been sentenced or not yet at that point? No, I was sentenced. I was sitting in county for a little bit, but then I left. When I left, he was already. going back to court. He just started going back to court. By the time I got out of jail, he was still going to court.

And then he got out of jail. I'm like, oh, what the fuck? That shit was crazy. It was so fast. And you're just hearing about it because he beats the case. And then he's got the case all over again. They wait right up until he's about to go to trial.

And then they're like, oh, no, it's cool. Yeah, we go about this. We ain't fucking with this. Because they already know that bitch, I will, you know, Jackie Lacey, I guess they kicked her up out of the office. Right. So that's what a lot of people.

like you know because of that yeah she had a heart on for you guys yeah she was for everybody she was just janky she was just she looked at your case and it looked crazy oh yeah to keep them in there forever that's how she was looking at shit definitely I don't care about the janky detective did you even get to the point of like having them use your lyrics against you in court or did they even not bother on it I mean that was just like I'm just looking at the songs they're using like this song don't have nothing to do with this case that's the type of shit I'm uh so I'm just sitting in like I mean like y'all can use that

but it ain't going it don't affect this like y'all this shit anybody in their right mind but listen to this shit like what the fuck is this nigga talking about this they sound talking about some pimping shit or some shit why y'all brun like we got they brought up right to sit and so I'm looking like why the fuck is this song

on a murder case type of shit they were all about chunky monkey too right? Yeah chunky monkey too because they were saying that there was a gun in that that might have been another gun yeah what was going to your mind that day when you all shot that video and you figured you were going to throw gorilla mask on.

Shit, I was just, you know, for the song. It sounded like the song. And we were just somewhere and I seen the mask. I'm like, oh shit, fucking, we just going to put these masks on. You were in Claremont, right? Yeah, Claremont. Because in the intro, who is getting yelled at for being late? That's me and Drake are arguing.

You stay arguing about some boys. But who are you yelling at on the phone? That's Drake. Oh, okay. You see, he pulled up an hour later. Damn there is crass. Isn't he being on Bush? Yeah, I know.

But I'm seeing driving all crazy to that dirt parking. I'm like, do you really want to get your car dirty like that? Yeah, you boys, you don't care. That shit is great. I always want to ask this question is, what the fuck was going through your heads when you made shoot a baby? Shit, we was like, it's not literally like to shoot a baby, but like, you feel me? Who would?

I got killers who would shoot a baby. Yeah, like, you feel me? I realize that it's just music and everything, but I'm also like, what kind of day were they having? where they just wanted to make some music that sounded that sound of that demonic. Nah, the homie, Ross, free-rised. One day he came back, like,

he got me tripping this shit. Like, I'm ready to shoot a baby right now. Like, he was just tripping. Free the, I mean, fuck, shit. But the ever songs that you made, though, you were like, damn, I might have took it a little too far. Like, that shit looks kind of crazy in retrospect. I mean, nah, not really, because we're just some boys.

We're ignorant. We just, like, we just, we're just, where people are going to take shit, how they take it, You feel me at this point in life. Like, you feel me? They just either they're gonna fuck with you or not. All the type of people doing crazy shit out here. Right.

That's funny, because I always seen y'all, like, kind of gravitate towards some of the Flint dudes, like, Rio the Young O.G and all them. Where I feel like him, like, he's like a part-time comedian on tracks. Like, he's really, like, spitting jokes. No cap. He'd be saying some funny-ass shit. You guys will say something that's super offensive and fucked up and insane. It just sound cool. But you don't really, like, make it that obvious that it's a joke.

Mm-hmm. You just kind of let it out. You got to say, cool. See, me, I'm more different. That's Draco really. Me, I'm more. I just say, like, just facts. Like, you know, I just state the facts.

You know? Talk about cool shit. You feel like you got a lot better at rapping over the years. Like, have you really gone out of your way? Or do you feel like you're just going and just do whatever happens? I just swear, I swear to God, I just do something in 10 minutes. And they just be just quality type shit. Like, I just go in here to be.

Like, all right, fuck it. Now, because I punch in now I used to write. But now since I say, start punching in now I just be quick shit it'd be the sound I don't even want to do that'd be the hardest one I'm like yeah I ain't gonna do that shit yeah

no that was definitely when I was getting ready for this interview and I was watching a shit a little of your videos I was kind of like damn he has got a lot fucking better over the years like compared to the older shit like you because I didn't even mix my shit back then I used to just drops that's what I didn't even I wasn't taking this shit serious I was just rapping

now I'm like oh yeah I got to put that shit on district kid we got to register this shit we gotta get all this shit jugging. Definitely. No, cat. Do you feel, okay, so what was your time locked up like? Like, how would you describe it?

I mean, shit, I wouldn't say it was, you know, it was jail was jail. But I'm the type, I've been going to jail since a little kid. So I'm going to make my worst situations, you know, I'm going to adapt to where I'm at, you know. When you're getting in jail, you go, you get in jail mode. anybody that been going to jail, you know, you just know you in there.

You don't want to be like miserable, nothing. You're going to keep your same little shit. You're just in jail. You'll be a little more aggressive. You have to fight there right away? Oh, yeah, yeah. You know, undefeated big bad Ralphie. That's just without question.

No, I was cooler, though. I'm more of a smooth, you know. You want to fight? All right, come on. But it's crazy in prison because, like. I know what I'm going to do. There was a couple different times I talked to Draco

and he basically told me about wild ass fights that he got involved in in there and I was just like damn that's crazy because probably nobody will ever know about that on the street

that'll never be an academics video about that even though you're telling me some shit that if there was a video of this internet broken A lot of people would be embarrassed if there's videos it is

right career gone yeah okay so were you sober the whole time you were locked up. Hell no, I was on Benadryl's and shit. Look, rim rinds and shit.

Niggil, get high, no cap. That's what got me through that shit, too. No cap. Rimrons and Benadryl. Shout out to Remrens and Benadryl. What's a Remron? It's like, it just, it's a, what is it? Like, a psych man, like, kind of like a Xanax, kind of like,

but in jail, so it's like, that's your gel, Xanax. And then Benadryl's, you got the liquid Benadryl. It's kind of like your jail link. Right. You know what? Damn. So, yeah, that was one thing I did notice about you and Drakos, that you guys got out and pretty much went back to business in that regard.

Oh, yeah. No cat. Do you see yourself ever slowing down in terms of getting fucked up and shit? I mean, I don't really get that hot. I kind of, like, drink to my body. You know, I just drink prior line and be fucking around. Your friends are laughing at you. Yeah, because they know.

They already know. They know. I really wanted to get rid of it. You're trying to kick the cuff. You're gonna do a Mazi move and kick the cup? I ain't kicking a cup or then like that. You know, that's what make the dope raps. You know, I ain't gonna lie to myself and say I'm kicking the cup.

That's what really got you on the cup is the fact that you feel like the music benefits from it. I mean, it's all one like vibe. You feel me, the juice, the weed, the studio is all like, for many, I even do the whippets in there. Now that shit is over with. You're over the whippets. You know, that's a phase. Yeah, because there was a little while where every time I would see you, you would be pretty much. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that's exactly like, exclusive. That's exactly what I thought, though. I was like, bro, like, where does this end? You can't just be going that hard with it for the rest of your life. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Now that's studio vibes every like blue moon nowadays type of shit. I've seen people just blowing through a box doing one verse. And I'm like, bro, this is not good for the environment. That's a lot of aluminum. Brain gum. For sure.

You ever do it to like make your voice sound different, though? No, hell no No No, no No, no No weird shit like that If you had to give up Lean or weed

Which one would be? Lean Cause Where else shit Really both I'm gonna give a one I'm gonna give a both I don't

Cause I tell you They go Co-respond Like Yeah Smoke weed We'll Yeah

And make dope rhymes Yeah Yeah It's a tough choice For sure Um In terms of like You moving

Around LA and shit How much, obviously you guys get a ton of love. Mm-hmm. But how much do you have to balance that out with the hate? I mean, I just move strategic anyway. I don't really trust nobody. I love.

It's cool. All that shit, cool. I fuck with who. I fuck with. They know who they is, you know? Other than that, I don't be trying to meet no new friends, no cousins, no brothers, nothing of that. Right. I feel you.

Um shit And I You were in the The catchy tribute video That came out recently right You were in the video and everything What was that day like

When you got to shot that It was cool You know It was a homie feeling right But it was It's what the homie Would have wanted to us to do Yeah

I mean I was interested in that It's like Just the fact that you guys chose that As a place to do the video But at the same time Like that really captured That's catchy you know Catchy you know

You know catchy And he like that's him he would have wanted us to do all that though party all that type of say that's type of see definitely yeah I mean that's got to have been real tough on on everybody just in terms of losing him so unexpectedly right yeah random shit that was crazy how do you feel having to see people disrespect him after he's gone I mean people want to do what they do they and they nerves you know It's real shit. People gonna do what they do.

Yeah. At this point, you can't, you know. Everybody wants some attention. Mm. I feel it. And they don't care what they got to do to get it. Yeah. That's real.

Yeah, so in terms of you taking your whole music career to the nice level and everything, where are you seeing yourself making those moves and everything? Shit. Music, I wouldn't be like an A&R or something. I ain't really trying to be like. This shit, it's easy, but I ain't got time. I'm trying to be doing the fashion and, you know, all the shit's business, all this shit. I'm trying to do everything.

Yeah, what is this hoodie? I'm looking at it. Oh, the Supreme. It's a cunt street, bitch street, dick street. No crap. Then I got my pants that me and a homie made. Got gang in them with the, all the shit. Desto inspired you in terms of doing the fashion shit and realizing how much money you can make off that?

Yeah, him, him and the homie, Andre, loyalty and royalty. And Zach, too, I'll be looking at him. He'd be going crazy, too. Yeah. Them, like, one of the main ones that kind of got me like, oh, telly bands, too, no cap. Right. Them, like, the ones that got me like, oh, I can really get some money out this shit. Right.

So you could see yourself signing an artist? Oh, yeah, hell yeah. And I know how to pick him. Niggas, all they do is listening type of shit we listen to anyway. We really make artists bigger just from us playing it on our shit. They're like, oh, who is that? Who is that? Who's next?

You know, they're just 10 times bigger. Definitely. Because it's like a cosine. It's like, if they see us fucking went, they're like, oh, Stint team fucking went. It must be green. Yeah, that's why I was really hyped to see you guys fucking were RIMBO. Because to me, he's somebody who is fully admitting it that he was growing up listening to music since he was in high school listening to y'all and really really fucking with it and now he's

got his own style but he also clearly has that influence and he's he's like doing fucking big things his music going crazy and but it's dope because he actually will say draco is my favorite rapper and i was really influenced by him whereas a lot of people in l.A. basically are 100% influenced by him but they don't feel like they want to say it because they're from the same generation you know they'd be scared to stand when they admit it. But shit, I don't know why. We fuck with this, niggas. We be scared.

Like, we ain't, okay, when you say that, we act like, it's going to change something. Like, it's still going to be the same shit. We still going to go hard and niggas still going to listen to our shit. And neither are you going to fuck with our shit or not. But some niggas get that Draco feature and they feel like they bigger now. Like, okay, now I'm somebody. Ow, I got that Draco feature out of the way.

I'm a somebody now. everybody not like that. There's a Rio bar that really hit me on the head where he just said, I hate when I help somebody out and then they try to compete with me. Yeah, no cap. And it really is like that. That's how to be. You know?

It's like the best thing you can have is like to be involved with somebody's career or to be interacting with some way and to help them. And then to have that just be a good relationship where you all fuck with each other. But a lot of people like they aren't mature enough to necessarily be able to do that. Yeah, but at this point in life, everybody knows. thing to you know we the dope is man from the fashion to the to the rapping you shit yeah everybody know me fuck the numbers the numbers is going to eventually accumulate right now we ain't really too much we just worry about being dope

you know that's us who else do you uh fuck with musically from L.A. or outside uh shit gang in them really I fuck with a lot of nays to me uh shit nags like petty g-toe um shit shit i fuck with a lot of niggas but it's too many niggins and everybody know who they is shit see if i be gassing too uh shit gang in them you know you got any you got any big plans now that uh the world's kind of opening up again uh shit get some money get some money look nice while i'm doing it buy new jewelry and shit you know we're gonna see a big stink team tour uh Uh, yeah, hell yeah, shit.

When this shit opened up, if it ever opened up, you know, they can play this game forever keep us locked down. But can you and Drago move around like that yet? I mean, I can't do nothing. I got to check with my P.O. and shit, you know, I got to make sure he'd let me go type of shit like that. But, no, I can't just shit. I'll show you.

Well, we're going to get you out one day. No, they're going to go in. I'm going to say it. Free, Ralphie. I'm free, but I may be out there touring and shit. There's probably a lot of people watching this who are still thinking that you're really my girl's cousin. I know, Kevin. It's a joke.

Landa the plug, Ralfi the plug. Just in case they've been thinking about it for an hour. All right. Anything else you want to people to know about? Anything we need to establish? Free to import them people. She alone are the great. That's all they need to know.

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