No Jumper - The Rooga Interview: GD Anthem, Working with Kanye, Lori Lightfoot & More

Episode Date: October 5, 2021

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No Jumper. Coolest podcast on the world. And today we're back with a guest to the people absolutely loved the interview with last time. Ruga is in the building. The GDs is in the dough. The GDs? GDs is in the dough. They came in the dough. Yeah, we did. Things been going good since the last interview.

Yeah, it did. Real good. Definitely. I feel like that song helped to sort of launch a lot of good things. That's one of the biggest songs you had in a while. and it feels like it's kind of an anthem at this point. Yeah, that turned to an anthem. The city, yeah, the GDs is in the dough. I just got to say that again. Right.

Some people don't like that song, though. Like, I've seen some people not being that excited about having to hear it where they go. Why they don't like it, though? Like, it's a good song. It's a happy song. You got mothers listening to it, grandmonds.

It's a great. song. Right. Anytime you can have people grandmas turning up to that shit. Right. I'll be getting grandmas, bro. Really? Bro. Like just grandmas in general or a very specific kind of grandma, like your grandma? Grandmas turned up to the song more than the young people, bro. Really? I get more notifications that grandma's jumping around like, hey, JD. Right. I'm down. Because you know the older people used to be GD anyway. Before it was cool. Yeah, you know, you know, you know, They just hiding it a little bit.

I brought it out. You feel? Right. That's how you do. So is that, did that song, like, you just said that you're booked for all these shows coming up and everything. Does that kind of stuff, like when you have a big song, you just start getting booked more and does it just do a lot of good things in general for your career?

Yeah, do. You know what I'm saying? Bring good money, shit. You know what I'm saying? But it opened up a lot of doors, you feel? Because when you buzz in, you know, everybody will be trying to book you because they want, you got a hot song. They see everybody turn it up.

turning up to it in the clubs, they gonna book you, you feel me? Because they know you're gonna bring that crowd out shit, you gonna bring that bag. So everybody eat at the end of the day. That's what it's about. Right. Did you go into the studio with any specific thoughts in mind when you made that? Like, it feels like that song was kind of like supposed to be a really big song since the

chorus is so simple and easy to remember. Bro, I ain't even, I ain't even played on Baker to the song. I was on live. I was just in a studio playing with beats you know what I'm saying just playing beats on live and shit just play freestyle playing rapping and I um

I was like they didn't let the GDs in a dough hey ooh they didn't let the GDs in a dough then I said believe it or not that'd be a hit they took that you know they always screen recording shit they took that posting it on Facebook they started going viral

or somebody put it up and they was like oh they made the caption like my mood all year you feel me right then that shit did like three four hundred thousand views on Facebook you feel me now everybody beating my DM down asking me to do that making a song really they thought it was a song everybody asked me like when the GD song drop when the GD song drop and there was no song yeah bro I'm like what the fuck that's crazy crazy because sometimes I'll have like you know a little hook that pops into my head and I'll be thinking like you know that

that sounds pretty good that's crazy that that that's crazy that that kind of laid the groundwork for the actual song. But was there pressure to make the song good when you actually got in the studio with it? It wasn't more so pressure. It was like pressure as far as timing because people wanted it now, you feel me? But as far as making it, I feel like

that was one of the easiest songs I ever made, bro. Right. It was like so, because I wasn't, it's really a simple song. It's a repetitive song, you feel me? But it's just the, what I'm talking about and how I'm saying that you feel me that shit just kind of made motherfuckers gravitate to it right definitely uh trump should have pardon larry

it felt like you actually like felt like you took that song as an opportunity to speak on a lot of different things related to that yeah yeah you should have free larry man you free and all these other people man let that man free man ain't did none of nobody man was it weird to see that blowing up on TikTok? Yeah, that shit was great. Honestly, I didn't even know it was, you know, I honestly, I wasn't into the TikTok thing like that. I didn't even, I never even set up a account for that shit, but I set up one, you feel

me? Not too long ago. And I got the, I got, I typed my name in on TikTok. That shit said like 29 million mentions or something like that with my name on it. I'm like, what the fuck? So I get the going through it and just looking at all the posts and they even got They had challenges and shit on there. Right.

I'm like, I ain't know about this. You know what I'm saying? So that actually happened organically. You don't have like a label that was secretly paying TikTokers to make these. Because that's usually how this happens. No, I ain't got no label. No, none of that. It's me.

Right. All me, bro. That's crazy. All me. And these kids have no fucking idea what they're singing about. I mean, it's not like I'm not an expert on the topic either, but. But yeah. I handle all my business.

we all keep it all in-house you know what I'm saying and we we just keep pushing bro yeah it's amazing um how do you feel like what was the the impact of that last interview that we did it felt like it was kind of controversial a lot of people had a lot to say about it it was more it was more serious you feel me it was kind of on a serious level you know what I'm saying and it kind of it opened a lot of doors we feel a lot of people you know kind of understand my side and I understand me And it made people, you know what I'm saying, realize, you know what I'm saying? Like, who is him? You made people want to know who is him.

The people who probably was fans of you or on y'all channel, it made everybody just realized just looking to me, you feel me? But after that is up to me, you feel me? So I just kept going and I hoped I'm a lot of your fans that fuck with me. Definitely. I read those comments nonstop where it was just like people really fucking with you. Like people who probably clicked it just because they wanted to hear more about Doug. And then by the end of it, they were like a big fan of you as a person.

Yeah, for sure, man. I fuck with them. You got some good people on your old channel and shit. They wasn't on no bashing me-ass shit, you feel him? Right. But I fuck with them. One thing I learned from dealing with you is that there's a lot of people out there making fake news about you. Like people really try to convince the world that certain things happen to get viewed.

and throwing your name in it. Like I clicked on a lot of videos getting ready for this and watched a full like five minute video and it's supposed to be somebody dissing you. And then I get to the end of the video and I'm like, they didn't even say his name. They didn't say one thing about him. Exactly.

Clickbait. You know, they do that. That's what they do. When they know you buzzing and they don't know anything attached to your name going to do a little number, you know, it's all just for a dollar, bro. They're trying to put that shit on their channel

to get some views, get them some to monetizing and get them a little money, man. Right. But everybody out here to get some money, you feel me? But that ain't the way, man. That ain't the way. Stop it, man. Throwing fake news out there.

The fake news hustle is not, you know, it's like you upload one video like that. You're blowing out your brand, you know, if people think that they can't trust the shit that you're saying. Hold on. Repeat that again. I'm talking about the people who are making the fake videos about drama involving you, you know. Once you start doing that, you're basically torching your, you're, you're, you're, platforms credibility. Yeah, that's what they try to do. You feel me? But it's more so

as long as you don't give it no energy, you know what I'm saying? That should have never get light to it. Sometimes it might do some little views, but when you don't give it no energy, bro? You know what I'm saying? The best reaction is no reaction. Right. I feel you. Okay. Here's the other thing that I'm really

curious about is you've been spending some time working with Kanye. You were infamously at the one of his Donda released things, at least one of them. Yeah, I was at all of them. Oh, okay. How did you guys even begin communicating? Because you had never spoken to him when we did that last interview, right?

No, I didn't speak to him yet. But I met Kanye through one of my people, my pop's people's, you feel me? So my pops was always in the industry networking with people and shit, you feel me? He knew a guy. He was plugged with Kanye and shit. Basically, I've been talking to this guy for a while, for months, you feel me? But at that time, it was a lot of people.

I was going through management shit. I was going through people, you know, just fucking me over with petty-liss shit. And I ain't really want to deal with people like that. I just felt like everybody was just out to just, for a motive, trying to do. You know what I'm saying? So I was kind of blocking the whole thing off. But that GD Anthem shit dropped and they got the going up. But then my guy, he called me.

He called me, um, Malik Youssef. He called me like, yeah, I'm in her playing. We ain't here playing. I'm here with Kanye playing your shit. I'm like, yeah. I hear it in the background of GD. Anthem. How'd you feel?

Are you shocked? It was like, damn, yeah. I wanted to know if it was real, though. I was like, shit, put him on the phone. Right. So he put, yeah, get on the phone. I promise you get on that before. Like, Trump should have free Larry.

I'm, ooh, shit. All right. That's crazy. But, yeah, that's how I met Ye, though. But he was just, I was just chopping up with him on the phone. Like a day later, a day later, matter of fact, he's like, my boy, Malik, hit me back like, yeah, yeah, he want to meet you, man. He want to chop it up with you. So I flew out to San Francisco.

Oh, that's where he was at that time. Yeah, we chopped it up out there. What was that like? What was it like? You just kind of go and post up in the studio and just hang out? Or what was the vibe? I go, like, that shit was totally different to what I thought it was going to be. It was more so different.

How he worked is different. You feel it's like you got 50, 50. 60 people, you know what I'm saying? In the room, like in one big-ass room, like we got everything going on, cameras over here, you got studio right here, you got him doing producing over here, him doing engineering, him,

everybody in the room doing something, you feel me? That's what it was. But it was like, it's like, you just, you're not doing nothing, you just, you're going to get seen because everybody is doing something, you feel me? Right. But, yeah, he definitely,

Kanye, a good person, though, bro. He real as hell. from people that like that is what the environment is like not necessarily when he's making music but he just keeps hell of people around and his his creative energy is just flowing all over the place like he likes to be leaping between you know making beats and talking to the rapper and talking to this designer and this person and do it just like that he'd be talking to this designer talking to that person it'd be i need this right now you know what i'm saying that everybody on point everybody you know what i'm saying it's a great team to be around everybody everybody playing their part and doing what

they got to do. Right. It was a real learning experience for me. Yeah, it's kind of like he's so creative and he's sort of created an environment where he's able to just let his creativity run free. And it's not just him making shit happen. He's got all these talented of people around him so that he can sort of just tell them what he wants and then they can start working on it.

And then maybe he steps back in and keeps working on it at a later time or something. I mean, but so you get to be in that environment. Do you feel kind of awkward at first? Like, fuck, there's all these people doing. something and I just pulled up. Like I said, no, it was not awkward at all. It was nothing but love. Like, I shook his hand.

Like, you know what I'm saying? It was all look. Everybody around him practically damn that knew me. You feel me? Off the rap. They all fuck with your music. Everybody walking up to me. I'm like, damn, this shit really like this.

Everybody knows me. Hey, fuck with me, you know what I'm saying? So it was all open arms, bro. It was love. Right. Real. So that's what it was mainly, the people around him open and showing me love. You feel, me, and just made me feel.

feel comfortable as hell. How did you actually end up working on music or actually rapping in that environment? Because it feels like that that must have been the weirdest step. Like how do you go from just hanging out so then all of a sudden does he tell you like go get in the booth? I need you on this beat. No, it's more so like it's all about you as a person. You feel me like according to how if a person gonna fuck with you, if a person gonna rap with you,

if a person don't wanna do anything with you. It was just me as a person, just how I care. by myself how real I was like when I first met yet I kept real with him you feel me I told him face to face like bro I can't sit here and say I listen to all your music you feel me I don't but I fuck with your grind and how you you know what I'm saying you told them that you don't listen to his music that much to his face you feel me but it wasn't like no disrespecting nothing it was just me being real bro I ain't gonna lie right but he just by me saying shit like that you feel me he told me like that's real bro like just by you even saying that bro like to tell me

that that's just me you feel me so it's just a little shit like that and make a make a person really fuck with you you feel me yeah he just was rocking with me bro like he he fucked with my energy my i kind of hollied at him on my you know personal level let them know about me you know just what i come from and shit you know what i'm saying right it all played a part you feel me but he fuck with me just being genuine just being real how many verses did you actually lay while you're out there though um on the album I put one verse on the album. Right.

But you didn't record more while you were out there? It's just you record one verse or you're out there and it got used? I always record where I'm at, bro. Like, I bring my studio shit with me. You feel, me, and record. Like, even I always book sessions, I find studios, whatever state I'm going in. I always, is this what about me? I don't care, like, I might hide it.

You know, I'm some Kanye shit going on or what? Big shit going on. I'm going to always have my personal shit going on. I don't care what's going on. on what I got going on don't stop you feel me so that's just me personally I'm gonna always keep working mm-hmm I'll be doing my own little personal sessions and but yeah it's just more so he was working on the album it was strictly the album everything was about the album so I that wasn't for me to come in and be like let me

record something you feel me or I do that on my personal time but right yeah definitely so after you went there and linked up did you guys stay in touch or where you just sort of waiting to see if you ended up being on the actual album? Because a lot of people recorded verses for the album that didn't end up on the album. Oh, yeah. Do we stay in touch and everything? Yeah, you guys keep talking to. My boy. I just talked to Kanye shit today.

That's my boy. I talk to them down every day. He's checking up on me, texting me, calling me. It's my boy. But were you, like, excited to see if the verse was going to be on the album? Were you, like, not 100% sure? No, no. Look, it was the day of the, the day.

day of the um of the um what that was the album released the um the listening part that's when you recorded it yeah did i record that the day did i record that i'm trying to remember i recorded that in illana okay in Atlanta the day of the listening party literally it was like an hour before he came out he like ruga i want you on this come on no no no no no not my not my How'd you feel? No, no, I'm going to keep it real. You know what it was? I had left earlier that day.

I had a studio session, you feel me? Okay. But I recorded one song, you feel me? I kind of spruced it up a little bit. He was like, how many songs you record after the studio? Let me hear some. I'm like, I recorded two songs, you feel me? But, you know what I'm saying?

I really didn't record. So I won't record it one. But I played songs for him, you feel me? And he was just like, I fuck with that verse. Put it on the album. I'm like, fuck it. So he took the verse off. of the beat that you already had wrapped on

and just put it on a different beat. Yeah, at this point, fuck that song. Right. Let's go on here to do that. Hell yeah. So he, um, right there in the studio. Come on. Layed that bitch right down.

20, I say, 30, 40 minutes went by when we was walking out. And I was kind of in a skybox thing, though. But, yeah, he played that motherfucker out there. I'm like, damn. What the fuck? He playing my shit in the stadium. That must have been a crazy experience.

Yeah, it was. Because I know, like, know for not everybody's going to necessarily know the context and everything but you've definitely at times felt like you were basically like blackballed out of having opportunities like this yeah in a way yeah yeah it was a lot of shit going on with that but honestly like my like I say bro everybody say blackball but I don't really look at this black ball it's more so K blackball talent mm-hmm all this shit was destined to happen you feel like because I always was

Even when I came out back then, I always started doing a million of view, million views and doing shit. You feel me, I was always collecting money. I never gave a fuck about what they were saying with that blackball and shit because I was always collecting my money, bro. I didn't give a fuck about that shit, bro. Like, I ain't understand. Like, I still sitting around 80, 90,000 in my bank account at that time a minute ago,

just like, I'm stacking my bread. I don't give a fuck. But it was blackballing going on a little bit. though, you know, but like I said, you can't blackball good talent, bro. Right. Yeah, I mean, it must have felt crazy too just because, you know, we've seen Kanye work with a lot of rappers who clearly you guys don't get along with. Now all of a sudden here he is putting you in a position to make a way bigger name for

yourself, get way more fans, et cetera. And I mean, he kind of did like the thing that most people in Chicago are never able to do, which is like putting people from both sides on the same album. never really see that done. Obviously if anybody's going to get it done, it's Kanye. Did that feel like, you know, vindication for you just grinding all these years? Yeah, it was good. It was a good thing, you know what I'm saying? But as far as him putting other people like on the album, like who on, you know what I'm saying, option, whatever, but here's what it is. He worked with who he worked with. You feel

me? That's his blessing. That's whoever he's dealing with. You feel me? But all I did was focused on my situation. You feel me? And focused on what I had to do, my game plan and my and focus stayed on my A game. You feel me? Definitely. Were you, like, what was that like coming out on stage in that fucking environment? Because, I mean, you got Marilyn Manson there. Were you there when the baby was there?

There's, like, all these people just coming out. It must have been insane backstage. It must have just been, like, such a star-set of the event. Yeah, you had a lot of motherfuckers back there, man. It was a lot going on. It was a great thing to meet all these people, you feel, me? Like, the baby. She had me and the baby was chopping it up, you feel?

the back. Shit, the baby, I was really talking to the baby the whole time, you feel me. He was really chopping it up with me, keeping the rear with me. He like, the baby came out. He went out and, because you know, we was in the house and shit, you feel me. Oh, so you actually got to be in the house.

Yeah, he was in the backstage, was inside the actual house? We came in with the hoodie things on. Y'all, I really didn't know who we was with Kanye. We walked right in the house. So when it was everybody's song came on, they'd come out the house, you feel me? So the baby went out there and shit. He came back in.

He was like, yeah, I just turned that motherfucker up. like but I'm ready to see your shit man he wanted to see what my shit was gonna do because he was already talking about in the back coming out to the GD anthem and shit right but yeah he was fucking with me though he was just you know really motivating me and telling me like man go out there turn up with the you know what I'm saying even when we was leaving that shit he was telling me like pull your phone out nigger record that shit nigga you really tripping get that on camera nigga I'm just like yeah he was definitely good energy bro I met my boy um don't Tolover.

Oh, yeah, I've seen that picture. I met him different occasions, though, but he's definitely good energy, bro. He's just like his music, good energy, for real. Right. Roddy Rich, shit, he was back there. Roddy Rich, cool, though. You know what I'm saying? He's just more quiet and shit.

He wasn't, but... You didn't talk to Marilyn Manson? You know what's crazy, bro? I didn't even know that was Marilyn Manson when I was back there, bro. Really? I'm talking to him and didn't even know it. He had on, like, some boots and shit. some big big ass boots they different type of oh no but i asked him i'm like i know them

i know them motherfuckers heavy ain't that he getting that looked at me yeah they have you right i'm like yeah i'm heavy as heavy ass boots boy it is like interesting when i when i think about it you know conier was it was very controversial that he took the baby who had just been like quote unquote cancel for saying some things about gay people that rolling loud and conier you know sees somebody like him who's sort of getting shit on by the industry and he decides to take the baby and, you know, put him on stage in that environment to kind of say, like, you can't cancel this guy. Like, like, I still believe in him. I still got love for him. Kanye, more aimed at more with it, like, let me get these people who kind of got a lot of

shit going on who everybody kind of trying to, you know what I'm saying, make out a bad person in the type of way, like with me, my situation, with everything from Chicago, all that shit. And you know what I'm saying? I want to come up and the baby with his situation, even Marilyn Mason, I kind of looked them up and shit, I don't know if he had a lot going on or some of cases right now, yeah. Cases, I guess, you feel me? So he's trying to show the world and like, you know what I'm saying?

I mean, Kanye's a deeply religious guy, and religion's all about forgiveness. It's all about giving somebody a second chance. It's all about, you know, whatever. And, I mean, definitely you can kind of see some of that in you where he might have been sort of looking at you as somebody who maybe hadn't been given the opportunities that you deserved, and he wanted to,

be somebody to reach out and help you take your shit to another level. Nah, for real, for real. He'd be acknowledging it. Like, even when I be around him and shit, he just, out of the blue just say it, like, because Ruga, like, he's one of the, he got the top song in the world right now. Right. He just, even if it ain't the top song in the world,

he just, for Kanye to say it, it's just like, it's a top song to him at that moment. Exactly. It's like, he'll make you feel good about that shit and just make you want to go even more. Yeah, that's just a top. type of person, Kanye is. But it was definitely a great. But when I went on that stage, though,

it was definitely a great feeling, bro. Like, when I stepped out, it was like, in my city. In your city where you're not even, like, allowed to really be booked like that normally, right? In my city, I was the first rapper, Carl Soldier Boy, tell him I was the first rapper to perform GD. Anthem in the motherfucking stadium

and rap your motherfucker city in your, gang, man. It is what it is. It was what it was. We did what we did. And it does what it does. Right. But no, though, you're the first rapper to do that. But you're on that, like, the biggest stage imaginable. Whereas if you were to just book a local show, if a local promoter were to try to put you on a show, I mean, you tell me, but we always hear that, like, people who are, you know, really gang affiliated in Chicago don't really get to perform like that because the cops are scared of whatever happening. Yeah. Can you repeat that again? I'm happy to I'm just saying, well, we always hear the Chicago rappers who are like really in the streets

that don't really get booked for shows in Chicago because the cops won't let them perform and stuff. Yeah. Oh, yeah, it's more. So with me, it's like, I perform everywhere, bro. I don't, I ain't been banned from the city or none of that shit. Like, I don't know. But me personally, I don't really do as much shows in the city like that because it's, you know what I'm saying?

There's a lot of shit just going on in a city, like, and it's like, if I was to do a show, you feel? me like in the city say you know you know how it is it's ops in the city shit so ops might slide you never know but no don't even want to do that type of shit because it's just bad on you feel me your show gets shot up now you don't nobody want to book you and shit it's just like it ain't you know what I'm saying it's just for he's got to be smart bro I saw you had one Instagram post where you posted up an old photo a duck and you just like it felt like it was a very emotional moment for you where you're like I'm sitting in the studio with Kanye but you couldn't stop thinking about him.

And that just felt like a very, like, real post where we were just, like, reflecting on the fact that you had made it to this point, but that he didn't get to be there to enjoy it with you. Exactly. Yeah, that shit, like, because it's like, when you grind in with a person, y'all been doing this shit for so long,

and y'all had plans and dreams, and y'all had talked about this shit so much, then you get to that point, and then you just can't do it with that person. That's the most hurting this shit. shit you feel me like you know what I'm saying because that's it's like it's almost like it's a dream come true but it's like it's not a complete it ain't complete you feel me it's like it'll never feel me yeah it's a great feeling but can't do it with my boy you feel me so yeah it's a sad that shit

sad you feel me definitely yeah just but I mean you got to keep in mind that he'd be really proud of you being in this position right like you're really doing something crazy to keep his name alive yeah it'd be times i'd be i'd just be talking you know what i'm saying i'll have my times you know i just be like i know you i know you happy at this shit cause i know you looking at me like what the fuck this nigger jaz you know what i'm saying i know he happy is i know exactly what he'll say he'll be like i don't took her you going crazy bitch he'll say it just like that he'll tell me but I know he with me, you know what I'm saying? He, every step of the way.

Shit, I'm just grinding. I'm just keeping his legacy on and I'm going to keep his name lit. And I'm going to do everything that he wanted, you know what I'm saying, that he wanted to do. I know what he wanted to do. Right. So I'm just going to keep striving. Yeah, 100%. You've been spending most of your time in Chicago or did you took off?

Honestly, I don't be in Chicago like that. I, you know, in and out, you feel I mean, just visit my family and shit and, you know, visit certain people and I don't be in Chicago like that. I'd be on the move, I'd be shows getting booked too much. I'd be on, I can't, shit. I know what's going on, you feel me?

I just got out of the stage with, yeah, shit. I ain't going to be playing in the city, man. Right. This shit real. Definitely. Yeah, your mentality has changed a lot over the years in terms of what you want to be doing with your time or where you think your time

is best spent. Say that again. I'm hot on some real shit. They have some good ass weed. It is? Empire Gardens. Empire Gardens. Indica. That's our sponsor right now. Yeah. What you say now? I'm going to smoke some of that right after this. Just talk about like how your perspective on life and what you want out of life has changed since you were a kid. You know, like you used to be your, your vision of the world was a lot smaller at one point. And now you're, you know, what you expect of yourself or what you feel like you can build out of your career has changed the life. lot and grown a lot, right? Yeah.

Um, he did just face a blunt. Okay. You're, making these questions real hard. He's turning the math questions. What I do is I start the one question and then I kind of like say another question by the end of it and then you're just like,

you can't remember either part of it. Oh, no. You get to losing me. I ain't going to lie. At least I'm keeping it real. Talk a little bit about, just how your expectation of what you can do

with your life has changed. Because you used to just have a smaller view of your opportunities, right? Yeah, but sure, I basically... On any other podcasts, this would be a blooper, but here it just feels normal. Hell, dog.

Let's get to the next question. I ain't going to lie to you, bro. I mean, I got to get back a deeper to my life and shit. I'm trying to think and map it up. Right. Okay. Now you're throwing...

me a little bit. It's real. This is how to be shit. My fuck is high. Where were you when you ran into Dave Chappelle and offset and all that shit? Because that was before the Kanye show, right? I seen that on your gram. Yeah.

That was after the show. Oh, okay. That was like an after party. They had and everything. They're at the stadium and shit. I ran to Dave Chappelle. Yeah, what was that like? Yeah, I ain't going to lie, bro.

I seen, like, I was more excited to see Dave Chappelle than Kanye. I ain't going to lie, bro. Really? It was crazy because it was like, I'm just talking to Kanye, and then Dave Chappelle just walked past. I'm like, I'm talking to Kanye. I'm like, bro, this ain't never Day Chappelle, bro. I'm like, this shit is crazy, bro.

I had to get a picture with him. I'm like, bro, I got to get a picture with you, bro. Right. He was good people, though. Dave Chappelle, funny as hell, for real. You don't take photos of a lot of people, I'm assuming? Who me? Yeah.

I don't. No, I don't. But Dave Chappelle qualifies? I only just asking for pictures and shit like that. You feel me? But Dave Shapil, that's my boy. You know what I'm saying? Me and my boy, I said we chopped it up.

You know what I'm saying? We took a picture and shit, you know, for the gangsters. What was that conversation like? He good people's, you know what I'm saying? It's love. Right. He definitely know what's going on. You feel, me?

He good peoples, though. I chopped it up with him, Quavo. You know what I'm saying? They was over there. But it was all love, though. They weren't no funny vibes or nothing. They good people's, bro. They showed me nothing but love in Atlanta.

Shit, I was day city. I fuck with the vibes. Okay. So when you're meeting offset, he didn't try to say, oh, there's a dude who's associated with you that said this, that about my baby mama? Who is that? Well, you know, King Yellas had some stuff to say about Cardi in the past. And he had recently admitted that he was lying.

Then that wasn't true. I don't know. Nothing about that shit, bro. Right. I don't get into all that shit I don't even know Yeah, I don't know about that, bro You guys aren't connected anymore at this point

Like, I don't really like He cool, no, can't y'all cool, you feel me? But I don't know about that type of shit, though, like But I saw Instagram Live where you said that he should hang it up Stop rapping No, man, it's more so bad

I said what I said, you feel? But I chopped it up with my boy, you feel me, he wasn't, I kind of went about it I went about it the wrong way, you feel me. I feel like I ain't have to say it like that on the internet, you feel me, because I did kind of, you know, hurt his feelings a little bit. He chopped it up with me and told me,

you feel me, and I ain't that type of person. Was he locked up when you said that? Yeah, he was booked. Okay. But, you know, I chopped it up with him and let him know shit. Just, you know, I kept it real, though. I said, go harder, nigga. Just go harder with this music shit. That's how you got it. You know what I'm saying?

I told him it was constructive criticism. You feel? It wasn't no disrespect or But nah, we chopped it up about that shit But you haven't seen him since he got out? Nah, honestly, Brian, I can't say I hang with yellow, you feel me? Like, yellow, I don't be seeing yellow every day. Even when yellow was out back then, he was with duck, you feel me, through duck and shit, now I'd be with duck and yellow will be around.

He cool, though. We chop it up when I see him and shit, but it wasn't like a me and yellow hanger with each other personally, you feel me? Right. We never, like, had that deep relationship like that. Okay, just had a check. Yeah Spicy little question right there

Yeah that was a spicy one It was a quick one too I had to glance at the camera I'm swifter than that I'm swift Yeah you gotta stay swift in these streets Yeah man You can't do both man

Right Yeah Okay but I also wanted to I wanted to talk about this Is you know that rapper CJ What's CJ from where From Staten Island New York No

You haven't seen him. I don't know him at all. He got a conflict with 2-2Gs, and we've actually seen him dropping the rakes and whatnot in his videos. CJ wasn't too happy about it when I said it on the podcast. He said that that's crazy, that he doesn't disnations, that's out of pocket. I don't know. You don't even know who he is? He had the whoopty song.

You know what about the whoopty song? Whoopty. Whoopty. Was it with a tutis? Yeah, yeah, that one. Went to the store and got a two-piece. Ubi. I walk out and run with the Uchi.

Little baby, it gave me some coochie. Remix on the way? Let me stop playing. Hey, no, though. I heard that song, but I don't really know them, bro. I can't sit here and speak on another man like that, bro. I don't know them men, bro. 2-2, G, that's my boy, you feel me?

But when they come to beef, like you say, it was beef or something, I don't know, bro. That's some New York shit, bro. I ain't trying to get in the all that. You feel, me? I don't. Right I don't think we should talk about that

Bro, that ain't even That ain't got nothing to do with me, gang Fair enough You ever talk to the two G's still? Yeah, that's my boy We'd be chopping it up Folks be calling me, I call him Right

Whenever I touch, you know what I'm saying Whatever city in shit we link That's my boy Definitely Yeah, I'm a fan of him Yeah, two too be going hard Who you fuck with coming out of Chicago right now Shit honestly

JHE We got JET He triv, he right here with me. What's the J.G stand for again? Jet High Entertainment. Okay. Then you got the Jet High Entertainment, the J stand for Just, and the E stand for Enjoy, and the T stand for The High.

Just Enjoy the High. Oh, okay. So basically it's a label that we push in-house label. You feel me? We're trying to get this shit. We're going to get this shit big, and we're going to make it, you know, turn it to something bigger than what it is. Yeah, you got J.E.

Tribe. J.E. J.E. Fadee. You got, um, Juice Man, Little Mo. All us, man. These are my rappers I listen to from Chicago, like my homies and niggas who want to come up trying to make it, you feel me? Right. And I'm going to speak on their name any chance I get. How'd that name come about that? Were you just so high one day? You were like looking at a jet? Like, I'm as high as that jet. No, I came up from, oh, Ewell, J.E.L. Too. I forgot his name. That's my boy, folks. He a rapper, too. He's an artist. But he, he an engineer, too, he engineer.

So he the one that made Jet High Entertainment. He will. I should have brought him with me. But he made it like in 20, what that was, 2011, around that time. Yeah, it was. I met him through my little brother, and he had the label going already. It was just something they made up, you feel me? Right.

But shit, I'm like, that shit sounds real. like we should take this shit serious you feel me so we started taking the series and putting it behind our name and ever since then it music started going up jahc starting to get lit and it's just that definitely no that's fire what made you want to do a whole tape with a little moe you said what what made you want to do a whole tape with a little more well me and a little more you know what I'm saying

we shit we had to um we was in a studio just all the time together making songs together shit it was just that We had enough songs for tape shit and we like, come on, let's just put a tape together, you know? Right. It wasn't really like no particulars, you know what thing. Because that was your first project on streaming services since, like, 2019, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I ain't really been dropping mixtapes and albums and none.

I've been really dropping singles, single, singles, but I got an album on the way, really two albums, R&B album and a rap album, all that on the way. But a little more, that's, you know, he high. He on a come up. Shit, I felt like it was going, you know what I'm saying? Put more light on it on him and me. I feel like they liked it us together on that scrapper song. That sounds hard.

Yeah, why not just turn up shit and just do a tape for him? They kept asking for the fans, so might as well just do it. Definitely. I forgot to ask this question before, but when the Kanye and Under 3,000 song leaked, how did you feel hearing Kanye saying shit about being a GD on that song? GD. GD. I ain't gonna lie.

I'm like, it's tight on. You were surprised? Nah, oh, man, oh, look, man, that shit is what it is, man. He said what he said. On Folcious of them, Greg. I felt like it was out of the blue. I said so on Twitter, and then all of a sudden I had mad people responding with all kinds of different bars.

kinds of different bars from 10 years ago where he was saying little things that made it maybe sort of make sense yeah no it's like I ain't even respect that one I ain't never heard that one but you said what he said like can't go against it that's that's that man belief that's what he say right look you're gonna like it or you ain't you can't do both man donda or certified lover boy donda under certified lover boy that's certified lover boy that's certified lover boy that's That's a good album too, though. You know what I'm saying? That's a good-ass album.

Hell yeah, both of them good-ass albums, honestly. And to be honest, I don't even think it should be like a, you know, a comp thing. Both of the albums was great, you feel me? Everybody did what they had to do. But I ain't gonna lie. That Donda is like, it's different. You feel me, the Donda album just, it was different.

He came with different material and different ideas. Like the love, what's the album? What is called? Lover Boy. Certified Lover Boy? A Certified Lover Boy. You see what? His was more like for the ladies. You feel me? I feel like.

Donda was dark. Yeah, it was dark. It was kind of more like, yeah, that was like more like, I think I heard that before from Drake. You feel me like with the, it's like ladies, female songs. It's good songs, though. That's Drake. You feel me? But it's Donda, man. I saw a video earlier of that artist Popcon, who I don't listen to, but I understand he's some sort of, Latin, reggae, I don't fucking know. International artists. That's super vague.

That'll work. And they were trying to ask him what he thought of the Yeezys. And he fucks with Drake heavy. And he wouldn't even look at the Yeezys. He wouldn't even look at them. I was just wondering if it was that serious on this side. Is that Ziz? Oh, shit.

I don't know, bro. Like I say, bro, I don't know about nobody beefs, nobody other men, bro. Them grown men, you feel me? I can't tell you nothing about what another grown man got going on, you feel You got enough of your own beef that you don't need to hop in a couple of billionaires beef? Yeah, it's just more so like it ain't got nothing to do with me. You feel me?

So I can't even speak on that type of shit like them other people, bro. Like they got beef where they don't want to wear yeasies and shit. I don't know. That's deep. If we were like, yo, we got this fire custom ovios. sweatsuit for you. You're going to throw it on? Honestly, I ain't no big fan of OVO clothing like that.

Oh, okay. Like, it ain't, like, that ain't nothing that it just strike me, like, an OVO clothing. I don't never even see OVO clothes in nowhere. They used to have a store here, but I guess they just shut it down. Yeah, I ain't really a big fan of the clothing like that, so, I don't know. Okay. I feel you. I don't wear Yeasies as much neither.

I wear Yeasies, some yeasies, you feel me? But not saying I don't like them, but, you know what I'm saying? shit I just like what I like you feel I got a pair of like neon green ones for free at one point and I was you know I don't think I ever wore them I just didn't really feel right walking around with the neon green feet but I'm a low-key guy you know I wear like all black simple shit

I'm actually just like about as bummy as I ever been on this podcast right now so what's um what's it like interviewing people it's great okay when I got guys like you who got spicy ass shit to talk about you know it can be hard it sucks when you don't really have anything to talk about or you got a guy who's a hot rapper he got a hot song okay he got nothing to talk about i see you i see you i see you had a child you know what i'm saying it was it

like having a baby now i mean you how many babies you got one it's the best you only got one yeah okay okay how old's yours three three three ten months over here yeah okay so what's it like um being famous it's not as easy as you think, huh? Doing an interview. Just coming up with questions on the spot. It is. It's easy. I'm asking. Being famous, you know, it's part of the job. You got to deal with it. So what's your social security number? 666666666. It's like a movie where you go to 555.5.

Just a routing number and the, you know what I'm saying? Just a bank. I need that info from you. I'm trying to get a wire. bad look that was bad right but yeah I'm high do you ever think about doing interviews like that was to me see one of them edible again you gotta take another one bro if you thought you were high before this is gonna really put you over the top how many of those do you eat before I think I ate two something slight you already ate two well let me tell you this we had currency on here and he he smoked more weed than anybody and he ate three of them and it was like a two something hour interview and by the end of it done

He was really, really high. And, you know, he smokes enough weed that he probably shouldn't be getting that high. He was done. Hey, bitch, it's good. What do you plan on doing for the rest of the day? Because you're going to be rolling off that shit. I'm going to be how to do? Well, you know, I may need a nap.

Let's see what happens. You don't normally eat edibles? I don't know. I don't know. I'd be out sometimes, but I'm going to eat them alone. I'm really impressed that you just ate that many. Although, I don't know. I mean, I ate.

At least like four or five. at this point not fat that's like 500 milligrams of THC straight in your veins bro that's decent though it's good I smoke you've been partying for a long time partying I don't be partying like that you don't turn up like that anymore nah I be I ain't going it's to a point where I'm not partying turn up unless I'm getting paid for it man um turn up my friends we might turn up you know what I'm saying chill we ain't know none of that you don't pop a e-pill you don't pop a e-pill with the guys?

No, I don't pop X. You used to? While back, I did a couple times, but I don't like X. Because one time I popped the X pill, right? My, um, homie,

we all taking pictures and shit. You feel we're taking a picture, a gang picture with the gang. Folks like, um, he's like, foe, what's up with your eye, folk? I'm like, what's you talking about? I go in the bathroom, look at myself in the mirror. My shit, looking at this eye.

This eye is looking at this eye And I couldn't stop it, bro I was smacking myself in the bathroom Putting water on my face My shit was stuck I'm like, what the fuck? Bro, that's some scary shit Since then I ain't popped the X peel

Really? That kind of turned you off to it Can't do it I can't control my eyes Oh no, I don't like that pill Mm-mm Yeah I tried a Zamb before too Only one

One I've taken You know why I ain't took a Zamb before again. Wait a motherfucker had to tell me what I was doing in there. Oh, yeah. See what I'm saying? That's why I don't want no more of that.

Oh, you could do some real fly shit, crazy sex stuff. You'd be meeting people, famous people, et cetera. You don't remember any of it. I don't remember shit. I had nights where I know I fucked like a bunch of girls. And like even by the next morning, I couldn't really put it together. That's a bad feeling. I'm scouting zams.

That shit dangerous. I don't want to. forget nothing. And lean, I did lean before. I don't like that neither. Because I, you know what I'm saying? I can go to sleep for free. Right. I ain't got time for that. I'd be in a nice place, dozing off and shit. No, I ain't trying to be like that.

But I just smoke weed. I might drink some liquor once in a while. That's it. I don't do nothing else. I was in the club in Miami on Saturday. And, you know, I'm like looking at girls. And they're just like, Like that shit Faces melting off Because I only have a couple shots Mojo

I'm standing there in the section Just looking around It's like four in the morning I'm clearly like probably One of the most sober people in there Who wasn't at work I'm just looking at these girls Just rolling off their fucking asses

Rubbing their heads I don't know where they're off But they look so fucked up And that's what always Fuckin scares me about doing drugs now Is like if you're not on drugs And you look at somebody on drugs You're like oh

What fuck is if you're looking like Hipes You would have thought they were normal if you were fucked up, you know? I didn't seem like people off these drugs acting real different now. Like drugs is different nowadays, bro. And they're not like, what's up with these new ass drugs? Hmm.

It's like these some 20-21-ass drugs, bro. What's the new drugs? Just the fentanyl or? Bro, all these drugs, I ain't been, even weed, bro. All this weed, I ain't been hearing about all this weed strands, bro. Like, back dear, it was not none of these weed strands, bro. Where all this shit come from? You grew up smoking mid?

I grew up smoking Redgie. Reggo. Oh, yeah. Reginal. I wish I could show you a picture of the shit. We were smoking when I was like 15. We was smoking backyard buggy. Couch.

Love seat. Brown paper bag. That shit was bogish. But it's like where it comes from? See, it went from Reggie. Then you got Dro. You had Droo. You remember Droo?

A little bit. It all kind of blends together throughout the years. What about? a lot of chocolate. I remember copping like a nickel bags of chocolate nonstop. What's that? Chocolate. Trash weed that we were smoking in like 2005. Yeah, nickel bags, little nicks.

Mm-hmm. You get a weed man, $4 and shit. I always think about the dudes who sat at the skate park selling a little $5 bags of weeds to the kids and shit all day. I wonder what they're doing now. But yeah, weed got more expensive. Like, what happened? Like, I remember it went from $10 for a nice little bag of weed to $40. a three five now like

50, 60, 70, 75 dollars of three five. It should be cheaper. The fuck is they putting in his weed. It should be cheaper these days, you know? There's more of it. There's more demand, I guess. Yeah. But keep going back. The fuck is good, man.

This dude's a wild guy right here, man. It ain't no regular guy. Yeah, you're going to be high. I'm tweaking. Leave me my fuck alone again. You'd be all right. I mean, it's not like you gotta go fucking launch a rocket into space later today. You're just going to be, well, you maybe record music, hang out.

Listen, you crack a fucking... These a thousand? Crack of energy drink, you bear it. A thousand for the whole bag. Oh, for the whole bag? Yeah. Oh, so what they is, a hundred milligram per thing? Yep.

Oh, that's light, man. I do four, five hundred milligrams of gum you bet, man. Stop it, man. Stop it, man. Well, as long as you're that comfortable, then you should be all right. Look, man. Go, you're going to eat the honey and a yank, man. Stop it, man.

Can I get one more spicy question in? You got it. I saw an exchange where Dirk had posted basically saying that... He's been one, man. I ain't going to lie to you, gang. What? No Dirk, man. No Dirk questions?

I don't even want to mention that name in this interview, man. Because he said he didn't know who you were in the DMs. We ain't on that type of time, gang. Respect. If Dirk was on the interview, he'd be on that bitch, like, I don't know that boy. That is a good point. I don't know that, man, man. But now you guys are Donda brothers.

Hell, no. You're a funny guy. I do what I can, you know. I'm here to entertain. But, uh... What's you cooking up? What you got coming out? What's been in the works?

Man, I got a motherfucker, an album on the way. Two albums on the way, really. A real album, so it's not going to be like a mixtape. You got a real full project? Real album. Real promotion behind it, real everything. You feel me? It's going to be on everything.

Shit. I also got a documentary. I'm being a documentary coming up. Really? With Discover. With Discover TV and shit. It's going to be on TV and everything. with my boy J. Mar Green, we're talking about Chicago and make, you know, what we can do to make it

better. You know Jay Mar Green, don't you? Yeah, yeah. He basically an activist from Chicago, but I don't think you know Jay Marrne. I tell about it. Sounds real familiar, but yeah. He was just like, yeah, yeah, you feel me. Just kind of rolling with it. You know, I know. But look, though, Jay Marrne, he's a good people's. He's running for mayor. He's going to be running for mayor and shit. What, you ain't fucking with Lori Lightfoot? Oh, no, man. It's light on, man. I seen a picture. I think it might have been fake, but they were like, this is what being the mayor of Chicago does to you.

And I had a picture her looking bad as hell. And then her now, I think the original picture was fake. I think they fucked up when they put a stud and that, man. No disrespect to the studs. She had baby hairs on her forehead and shit in the picture I was looking at. I don't think she was really doing that. She's a stud he called her.

I just caught that. You know what I'm saying? I just got to think when she go home and she's like she got a girl. Honestly, I haven't thought about it until now, but that wouldn't surprise me, I guess. She probably got some nice little woman in the hiding. I don't want to show off. She said she's going to be suing the gangs. That ain't got nothing to do with me, man.

It just seems like a weird idea. My name Benin and ain't in it, man. Stop it, man. Okay, when I said she's suing the gangs, I shouldn't be pointing at you as I say that. It's more so. Can't do both, man. leave me out of that he said they

fucked up when they put a stud in charge I don't leave her out of this man she gonna leave that lady alone man she didn't been through a lot definitely but the documentary that's gonna be big

yeah the documentary it's definitely gonna be big man like it's gonna be a lot it's other artists on that too I think but I'm not really sure all the artists but shit's gonna be real

definitely positive vibes showing opening up on my life more you know a personal on the personal level you know what I'm saying my everyday kind of life it's a good documentary respect how you like that no jump or water pretty good huh there's no jump of water yeah look tastes like water that was the idea looks like we did it but yeah there's some good water though you got weed in it No, no. This time about wet as water in the world, bro. Y'all, wild a cell, man.

Stop it, man. The water's wet? Stop it, man. You smoking wet? No, I'm just fucking with you. This is a good shit, though. I'm just playing. Pure water, no bullshit.

That's hot. You heard? All right. Y'all know what y'all know. Okay, so we got to look out for the album. Yeah, the album on the way. Anything else that we should be keeping in mind? Yeah, I got artists on the way, man.

J. J. H. H.E. Fadile. We got J.H.E. Well. We got J.J.E.L. We got J.S. Man. All them upcoming. We all coming together. We're coming strong. We're going to keep working and we're going to keep striving. And we're going to keep making greatness.

And we're going to stamp our shit in this motherfucker. And it in this, I don't know the word for it. But, yeah, we're going to do what we got to do. Sure. They don't let the GDs in the dough And the motherfucking dough They let GDs in the dough We let the GDs in the door

And they're eating like 700 milligrams Worth of weed candy And face and blunts That's what happened when you let the GD's in the dough They eat all your weed candy We got more of that for you And I want to shoot that salt gun a little more Oh we got to find some flies, yeah

That's what I want to do I want to just leave like bones and meat out So that the flies will come So then we can have target practice on them Yeah, I guess. Or maybe like some chips, some crumbs, whatever they want. Right, right. Stop it, man.

Stop it. Stop it, man. Just stop it. Stop being a fly. Ruga. Appreciate you, man. No, I appreciate you for having me again, bro. You know, we're going to chop it up, man.

We're going to keep doing this. Definitely. We're going to probably yearly slide by something, keep it going. Let y'all do a follow-up on me or something. We'll be like 65 still doing this. Make some more of this shit, man. We'll be 74 still doing this. My bad.

Y'all selling this? No, you got it. Now, don't just say that on camera. You can. Shut it out on the gram, and we got you. They always are telling us like... Shout out Empire Gardens. They want us to give it to people like you, you know?

Shout out Empire Gardens and my boy out of me. He said you're going to give me four of these. He's a good person. I fuck with him. And he's say you're going to give me the rest of these edibles. GD's an adult. There you go. You're going to get you so high.

You're going to need a driver. You got a driver? Yeah, we are in a, so I'm fast. I know. I've seen it outside. I'm driving. You're driving. I'm killing us today.

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