No Jumper - The RXK Nephew Interview: Growing Up Incarcerated, Lil Reese, Hennessy, Rochester Upbringing
Episode Date: July 20, 2021RXK Nephew gets super real and candid about growing up in the prison life, his come up, his love for Lil B, why he doesn't like Will Smith, Murda Mook, Lil Reese and so much more! https://www.instagra...m.com/rxk_nephew/ https://twitter.com/nephew_rx Stamps by https://www.instagram.com/eli518mcfly/ ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5tesvmDS8h50LkjnSAWMOs?si=j6sJD6DkR4mk5NZZWnlK7g FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/nojumper iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/no-jumper/id1001659715?mt=2 Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFICIAL http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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No Jumper, coolest podcast on the world.
And today we got one of my favorite rappers, one crazy-ass human being.
I'm very excited to get to know a little bit here.
RXK Nephew, how you feeling my guy?
I appreciate it, my boy.
I'm feeling good, real good.
Nice to meet you.
Nice to meet you.
This is the coolest podcast in the world ever.
I started to go out.
Appreciate that.
Thank you very much.
And this is also my first messed up podcast.
Let's just call that.
I forgot my mask.
Put your motherfucking man's going.
Yeah, COVID, man.
What the fuck?
How you doing?
What's what's going on?
Man, I'm doing God.
I'm motivated, good spirits.
Yeah, LA working.
Mine ain't been sleeping a month.
You ain't slept in a month?
Uh-uh.
Videos every day.
They drop them every day.
What kind of drugs you got to do to sell for a month?
My, e-pill, Henney.
That's it, that's shit.
I can't fault none of the other shit.
You said e-pills and henny?
Yeah, just e-pills and henny, though.
That's dope.
People don't really come on here and confess to be popping e-pills too often.
Yeah, I try a lot of shit.
I used to do molly, cocaine.
Well, that shit, all that should be noticeable.
I don't want my family, none of that to see that, or it take toll on you make you lose weight.
So I figured, you know what I'm saying?
The beans, the e-pill, we call them beans, they better.
But the beans don't make you feel like you look like a fucking nutcase off that shit?
Well, nobody know you're doing.
Yeah, but I mean, every time I ever did Molly or an E-Pill or some shit, everybody, the whole fucking block would know.
If a cop took one look at me, they would know.
I'm moving around my jaws on a swivel.
That shit is...
See, that's why I had to stop with the Marty and do that.
and do the e-pills because it's like the e-pill got molly in it and d'emate like so it's not so much of it's mixed with everything yeah
you get a little fit in there yeah so it's kind of balanced it out that's why you be you know for sure
molly you won't sleep forever so you're from upstate new york right yeah upstate where rochester
uh-huh closer to rent too that's kind of crazy that isn't i don't know if i ever heard a rappers coming out of there
am i wrong uh yeah you're right i mean they talk about like gizelda gizelda kind of like broke the
door down for upstate New York in a way.
They're from Buffalo. Yeah, it's a different
lane. I thought there's from Rochester, yeah.
Yeah. It's a different lane, though, because they try
to follow a New York city trend,
but we never been able to break into the
New York City thing. They never except for nobody.
But, I mean, that's kind of, do you
feel like you're totally
opting out of that? Like, even when you
think about Buffalo, you think about it as kind of like
an extension of Brooklyn and shit.
Like, every time I ever been in Buffalo, I'm looking at
dudes, like, damn, they look
like New York dudes from, like, five
five, six years ago.
You know what?
No offense.
No offense.
Yeah, no, no, no, you're right.
You're right.
You're right.
Knocker's elder.
I'm just talking about dudes I've seen standing on the street and shit.
Like, it feels like a little bit later extended burrow.
No, no, no.
They're dead there from years, though.
Ruchess has got that same vibe.
Uh-huh.
Well, they just kind of like a little spat up and caught up.
Okay.
So you spent your whole life growing up there?
Yeah, whole life.
How was it?
I really grew up in jail.
Oh, really?
So growing up in jail.
At what age is you going in?
Everybody. Well, to prison. I grew up in juvenile, but I went to prison, and that's like,
I went there 18, 17, 17, went to County Junker, went to prison, 18. So make a little story short,
I was around Albany, Buffalo, Syracuse, Utica, from all the way to New York City.
So I could be able to, you know what I'm saying? So I'm knowing other walks of life and networking.
Because they take all the New York City prisoners, a lot of them end up.
Put them upstate, yeah. So then we get the network with each other. So then we all trying to link up with each other
when we go home. So you found out about like every thing that everyone in the
state? Everything. Everything. When I came home, I just started going there. And then I was
linking with people from the jail. Okay. Like, you know, people that have rolled down on my
Bible and shit. Uh-huh. Yeah. How old are you right now? I tried calling them. Oh, man.
Say it true, 27. Slitherman is 27. Okay. That's what so. What you were initially going to jail
in prison for? What did I go for? Yeah, what did you get caught up doing? Oh, man. Well, they
charged me with robbery and kidnapping, but I copped out to robbery, you know what I'm saying?
And I was a youth, but I didn't, I took, you know what I'm saying? I took four years.
Okay. And then it gave me two years parole and did all of that. Uh-huh. You know what I'm saying?
But I was, man, listen, I'm going to tell you I was innocent. I was, but it is what it is,
though. I learned from that, though, because that made me what I am, that got me right here.
I had time to think. I was late, I read, did a lot of reading. That's what made my raps better. That's what
me think better. Who do they think that you kidnapped? What was their theory?
Their theory is I put a gun to somebody hire a couple. You picked them both in the car, and they
supposedly had the baby around. I don't know, man. I'm sitting there like, listen here. Then they
pointed me out like in a photo array, you know what I'm saying? But I had this tattoo, I had little
braids, and about six feet, 190 pounds. You know what I'm saying? It's not hard to miss that.
Right.
So that's what I was trying to beat it on, but it didn't work out.
Yeah.
Were you not?
They got them.
They wanted me to tell on somebody else.
But, you know, they told me, like, if you ain't going to say nothing, then we're going
to get you indicted.
So I thought, you know what I'm saying, held it down.
Like, I ain't got nothing to say thinking I'm going home and they came back and the, like,
the victim circled my face out.
And it was over indictment.
But then I fought it for a year and then I just decided to cop out.
Okay.
So growing up in that area and shit, was it always like?
a feeling like there was a very high chance that you ended up in prison and shit like the cops
are all motherfuckers out there they know what's going on so it's like the um the prison system in new york
is like it's crazy because rochester population is on like 300 000 but the prison is filled with
rochester right you know what i'm saying like it's strong in there we got a phone we like you strong
we stick together it's like a gang really in its own okay is it like racial politics in there for
the most part it's not broken down by actual gangs just spanish
Bloods, Crips, and towns.
Okay.
Yeah, that's it.
It's not, like, probably out here.
And so...
Where were you at, like, all through high school and shit,
like, in terms of what you saw for yourself in life?
Like, you weren't thinking about music or anything at that point, I'm assuming?
Mm-mm.
I never thought about, like, I always love music.
I always thought, like, everybody wanted to make music try to rap, but, nah.
And high school, I never made it past the seventh grade.
juvenile and that's it, that's history. Wow. Yeah. What were your parents like and what
they think of all this? Oh my grandma. I was raised by my grandmother, so. Okay. Yeah, but she
motivated me, you know, she always told me like I had it determined that she never judged me for
the shit I did, like getting arrested and none of that crazy shit, but she had her own kids to
raise, so I was just her grandchild, so I never paid too much pressure on her. Interesting. So, so you
get into, into jail and prison and stuff? How did you feel like you fit in?
You kind of like appreciate being in that element once you got in there?
No, at the time when I got in there, I just thought like, fuck it.
Like, I wasn't the type to kill myself with suicide or none of that.
And I had my baby right before I went in there.
Oh, wow.
My girl said she was pregnant, you know what I'm saying?
But it ended up, you know what I'm saying, it's my daughter.
But I just found that out, so it was a lot of weight on my shoulders.
So I just thought, like, just, you know, I want to have a, I know how to go out to do time, but I wanted to be easy.
Uh-huh.
So, you know, I just turned out.
To have fun.
So my hobby was like just getting in the shit and smoking weed.
Right.
Fucking with the GameVangers.
You didn't have any chance of getting more time tacked on there?
Yeah, I did.
But sometimes I just don't give a fuck.
Sometimes, though.
But I know what I'm doing, though.
I'm not going to, like, assault police or stab somebody.
I'm just going to be an asshole and troll and just.
How bad were the guards and shit up there?
Bad as shit.
Yeah?
Yeah, they're killing folks.
I don't want for the guys I'm about the four of inmates.
God damn.
Yeah.
My friend got killed by getting pushed down the stairs and beat the death, and they just blame it on anything.
They blame it on K2.
That's a lot.
In New York City, they just blame it on K2, and they say it's a heart attack or they got over.
Word, that's crazy.
But is there a lot of K2 going around?
Yeah, it's a lot of K2.
And I think people do.
They do have a heart attack with K2 because they smoke it, and then their heart start racing.
They get paranoid.
They might think something going on, and then they force them into a heart attack or a stroke or whatever.
But when a drug test, you don't come up as drug.
It's not labeled as a controlled substance or a narcotic, so they're not giving you like new charges or...
Right.
But that's like the number one easiest drug to get while you're locked up in there?
No, that's just the way to not get a dirty end.
Dirty end.
Oh, okay.
Damn.
That's crazy.
Yeah, so everybody's smoking the parolees, people in jail, and they get this piss clean.
You hear about that correctional officer that got fucked by a whole bunch of the inmates in front of a bunch of the other inmates recently?
Oh, a female?
It was a female?
Yeah.
She is. She looks good, too, bro.
Yeah, now that's crazy.
I've been DMing her.
For real, she said she's down to do an interview when she gets out.
What?
And she can write you from in there?
Yeah, I don't know if people, she's deeming me back.
Somehow, I don't know if somebody using her phone or what.
Nah, no, no, that's probably heard those.
They'd be having phones in there, but that's crazy, though.
Did you have one like the whole time or just a little bit here?
Did I have a phone?
Yeah.
In jail?
Yeah.
Hell, no.
It's too expensive?
No, New York State, you ain't getting stuff like that.
You only getting small things that you can tuck.
Like, I'm saying it, like,
I was in the medium prison
And the maximum probably
If you got money
You just offer
Just throw the offer out there
Right
Just be like yeah I got 20,000
For a little track phone
From Family Dollar
And they come through it
Come through with it
Yeah definitely
So you get in there
Do you start rapping while you're in there
And you're writing shit
Or nothing
I didn't go for I just started
Like trapping
It was a lot of drugs
And I wanted to make some money
And I was hungry
I wanted to eat
And I love hustling.
That's all I rap about, so that's all I did.
Because you were having people bring it in for you?
Yes, I did.
And shout out to the people that did it, because I loved them.
Respect to them, if you want to talk about.
Yeah, respect to them.
I ain't going to talk too much.
They know who they are.
And I talk to them, and I appreciate them.
I tell them I love them to death because they didn't have to do that.
Uh-huh.
You know what I'm saying?
But I made sure they was good.
They made sure I was good.
But I only did that, so I didn't have to put pressure on them with my family.
But you mean it's to not get caught?
Because, one gram, one gram of weed is like probably $8.50, 800.
$150, one gram.
So it's like, come on, man.
I'm eating good, getting fat, getting big.
I ain't got a workout.
I'm chilling.
I ain't going to get in no fight.
Because everybody getting high.
I'm doing when I got the drugs.
Ain't nobody going to punt.
Like, you know, do nothing to nobody that has the trucks.
Right.
Where are you keeping them on you?
Listen, here, man.
After a while, I had to, like, just pay people to keep it on them.
But you know, you know.
I'm thinking.
Yeah, you're thinking, but listen, man.
You got to do what you got to do to eat, man.
Listen, I ain't.
Listen, I ain't, yeah.
You got to make it disappear.
For sure.
Were you listening to any weird hip-hop before you went in,
or what was your music taste like?
When I was in jail?
Yeah, because I feel like...
Max B.
Gucci, man.
That's it.
Really?
Juicy J.
Okay.
I bought a little dirt take one time.
I was so disappointed.
I was hurt.
I wanted my money back.
I was arguing with conversative, all that.
Really?
Swear to God.
It was like, time to the streets, too.
I was like, the fuck.
But I got Juicy J, that rubber band business part two,
that was that's something i could listen to forever and i got some Gucci i got um Gucci in future free
bins i can listen to that forever any like max b public domain i can list to that forever
that was about 2011 i guess when that future in Gucci tape came out right maybe 2012
something like that was school then when future was brand new to us and it's like who the
fuck is this dude that Gucci's doing a tape with yeah he was black and that's why i fuck with Gucci
man i don't know what he was doing like how much he was getting paid but it seemed like he was just
showing love and just doing it because he loved to do it
But like me, I'm not really too worried about the money.
Like, I don't pay, like, a lot of artists be paying their way, trying to pay their way,
get the money and stress themselves out.
I'll just keep working.
Definitely.
Just keep making more music.
All right, so what do you come home to when you get released?
Like, what's your life turned into?
That's what you did, okay.
Everybody acting like I can't parole to their crib.
Really?
So, yeah, I went to home to shelter and then made it out of there.
How long were you in there?
Oh, man, I was there for a few days.
I told my pro officer I had beef with the nigga and I was going to kill him.
Oh, wow.
And he was trying to kill me.
She's talking about, I never seen nobody died here.
I'm like, this going to be the first time.
You want to see it?
You know what I'm saying?
I put the pressure on it.
Like, I ain't trying to be here, man.
Was this real or you were just trying to convince them this?
I was just trying to convince him, man.
Yeah, right.
Hell now.
I'd have killed them.
I ain't by calling it, tell her.
So when you leave there, where do you go?
Hmm?
Where do you leave?
I went to my house.
Okay.
The one day.
And she was still fucking with you at this point?
Yeah, she was still fucking with me.
She left me while I was in jail, but she still,
we started a relationship where she got my back.
We were just friends.
Okay.
So she know, like, she know I got potential.
She know, like, you know, I love her genuinely.
She let me genuinely, but, you know, we just wasn't like, you know.
So I can go to her crib, you know what I'm saying?
We got parole to talk me in the staying there for a little bit.
I only had a few months left.
Uh-huh.
Got off of that.
Went full-fledged into trying to get some money in the streets.
Full-fledged.
I didn't care about going back to jail.
Right.
I said this is what I'm going to do for the rest of my life.
Because what other options do you have?
You're going to work at the corner store?
Probably not.
Yeah, it's over.
I had no GD, bar.
Left out of the seventh grade.
So when I ain't had a GD, I ain't do shit.
So you get out and you only have one option.
I have my license, though.
Right.
But you only got one option, and it's very, very important.
Then you not get caught.
Yeah.
Like, no other plan.
Yeah.
So it's like, you know, like, do what I do best, but just do it better this time.
So I did it.
But I came back full flash.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
So it was like, and then I started linking those people I was in jail with more criminals and shit.
Everybody criminals doing the same shit trying to get to a bad.
But then I always, like, I always love music.
When I get bored and shit, it's nothing to do.
It's like you get the money, you get the chain or you get the clothes or fuck the bitches, what else to do?
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
But music, I really love it because you see I say everything.
I talk about everything through it.
So I would do that, but people started liking it.
Yeah.
And then I found that I could make money through it.
So then it was over.
Yeah, so like your style, I mean, you have like a very specific cadence that you seem to go with quite often, but then also you have like a specific style where you just sort of like say everything that you think.
Like I hate you style. Like everything that you think about whoever, like no holds bars, it seems like that's like a big part of it is like I'm not going to hold back on talking about anybody even if they're scary ass gangsters, whatever. I'm still going to say it. And it feels like you even say shit that you don't really believe just because you think it's funny.
Yeah. Yeah. No, that's the fact.
though. Because that's how be around everything.
You know what I'm saying? Then I was in jail.
I had to make my time goodbye. Not to get back on that
judge. I hate talking about it.
But when I had to use my imagination,
I was always in solitary confinement. I had to use my imagination.
So my imagination, yeah.
So it's like, I've been around gangsters. I've been around
funny people. I've been around rapists, all the type
of people. So it's like, man, I'm getting lost what I was saying.
A lot of people I see
in the comments and I heard you mention, it's like
feels like a little B was an influence of sorts
on your style, true or false?
Yeah, as I deep digging to Little B shit, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
But it was crazy because the only songs I remember
of Little B was like Martian and Vans and shit like that,
but I fuck a little B.
But when I really started fucking with Little B
is when he started having problems in the industry
and people started targeting him
for where he did and putting their hands on him.
And I'm just like him,
but I don't feel like they're never going to do it to me
because it's just not going to happen like that.
But when you're saying all this crazy,
as shit in your songs?
Does it ever creep in your mind?
Like, damn, what if I ever see this dude?
And he wants to kill me.
Yeah, I'd be seeing people, though.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
They love me in Chicago.
They love me everywhere.
I'd be actually traveling.
I always travel.
I get, since I came home, I get in my car.
I hit the interstate and just go.
Wherever city you're in.
I look on Instagram or you rap, you're an underground rapper just like me.
You're in Cincinnati?
I'm going to come.
I drive there.
We get in the studio, take pictures.
I go to the next city.
Do it, do it, do it, do it.
You know what I'm saying?
But I still do it today.
When I first heard you, I sent it to Liliety right away.
I forget what you said in the song.
But like you said some...
Yeah, I said it was right to Liljati.
And he just was laughing his ass off.
Like, he was totally fucking...
And that's what everybody responds be.
You know what I'm saying?
They don't really like...
I get more love than I do backlacks.
I don't pull up and they be like,
yo, why you said that or you're a couch chaser or you corny?
They just be like, yo, that shit funny and it's some real shit.
And then most of the shit you're saying is off of the internet.
You know, it's on the internet.
Right.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
I see this on the internet when my little cousin or people tell me about it.
And I just like, what the fuck?
Right.
Yeah, man.
Because actually, I found out about your shit in a very organic way because I was just sitting here.
I'd be telling people that you were returning for a long time before a lot of people.
But I was just kicking it with Chuck English from the cool kids who himself is like a fucking total legend.
And he's had some big ass songs.
He's cool ass dude.
And he just showed me it.
Had like 5,000 views or some shit.
I'm like, you know this dude?
Like, why are you showing me this?
He's like, nah, I just fucking heard this.
I thought it was funny as fuck.
And that's totally how I got to turn.
turned on to it, yeah.
It's crazy God who know who that is.
I don't know if those people are.
You should check it out.
He's a legend.
I appreciate him, though.
I appreciate everybody, man.
Yeah.
Are you surprised at all that, like, people are gravitating towards your shit?
Hell yeah.
I'm surprised because I didn't think nobody would feel like that.
I thought that, yo, man, nobody fuck with my music.
I'm going to say how I feel, and I don't care if they fuck with it because I'm going
to listen to it.
And then they just started just coming to it when I did that.
So when I do experiment, I do how I want to do it.
And then I do it how I think they want to do it.
it and they just will do it like it how I want to do it and that's the crazy shit bro
definitely yeah me being myself just saying with some of mine where did you get any name from
nephew from uh crackheads okay they just been calling out of the crackheads just call everybody
nephew they don't know nobody name they so high they just be like nephew niece or a cousin
but when you're young and you know they just say nephew in L.A nephew like gang bangers just call
a younger gang gang gang gangers just call it young oh yeah that's some crips shit right yeah that's some west coast
and then they had the East Coast of it,
his auntie and nephew was for, like, trappers.
So what's R.S.K.?
That's, like, the real drug wage.
Okay.
So that's, like, a black, like, I feel like a black supremacist, bro.
Tell me more.
Huh?
Tell me more.
I don't, like, I just do, like, I just, I don't know, bro.
It's like, I don't know, bro.
I don't even know what that mean yet.
Uh-huh.
I don't know.
What does white supremacists mean?
I mean, white supremacist is, generally speaking,
you know, a white person that,
is concerned with a consolidating power for his race.
And I guess a black supremacist, same thing,
except they're up against a little more.
Because people say white supremacy to describe society as a whole,
like, you know, the fact that a cop is more likely
to pull over a black person or the fact that it might be harder
for you to get a job of your black.
Like, that's the state of white supremacy.
My older school mentality of white supremacists is like,
oh, that's a Nazi or a white power guy or whatever.
Now people kind of use the term to describe how society is structured as a whole.
Okay, okay, okay. But I wouldn't want people to look at black supremacists as the opposite of a Nazi because we don't like...
You don't hate white people?
No, hell no, I love white people. I grew up white people in all kinds of races.
But it's like all my white friends, all white people I grew up with we all, like, everybody got like some kind of comedy racism or funny.
Like we always joke with each other and I know they're not racist. They love me.
They look out for me. They, you know what I'm saying? They genuinely just like my shit, my black friends, my nigger friends.
Definitely.
You know what I'm saying? But it's like embracing into music.
kind of crazy though.
So, when I listen back to it, I'd be like, damn, that was kind of crazy, but people love it.
They're like, what the fuck?
Right, because you'll say, like, shit about white people, just stuff that might sound kind of
hateful?
Yeah.
But it's like, my friends love it and the white people I'd be around love it.
And it's like, they understand.
It's not that they love it, they understand.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
Especially somebody that grew up with blacks and they had that.
Like, you got whites whose family is racist, but they're not.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
So they understand.
Yeah, because, like, my whole life growing up around people and shit,
It always felt like I was kicking it with mad Hispanic people, mad, black people, white people.
And we'd be making fun of each other for the differences of our cultures and everything like that.
But now it's like I get older.
I'm around that industry-ass people.
And it kind of feels like, oh, is that being lost?
Like, people don't really fuck around.
But then when you're around like normal-ass people, like you, and I'm like reminded of like, oh, yeah, that is normal.
For people to just be fucking with each other.
Like, I used to argue with the CEO, like, your headline gone.
You got a bare belly.
You can't, you ain't got a six-pack.
He's like, you don't know your father.
And I'm like, I don't want to know him.
And I'm like, yo, you know what I'm saying?
But it's still like, you know, other people look like,
yo, he's racist.
And I'd be like, nah, like, bro, what the fuck, bro?
He's going to bring me some extra food right now.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, we actually like...
I think it's like a good way for people to relate to each other and get along.
I wouldn't know everything that I know about black people
if it wasn't for hearing black people talk shit to each other.
Basically, like when I was living in New York,
I would realize so much shit about how black people talk to each other
from just hearing them crack jokes on each other.
Like, I never knew that black people would, like, make fun of each other for being darker
than the other one.
And then I moved to New York, and I start hearing that all the time.
And I'm like, oh.
Yeah, like, African booty scratching and shit like that.
Be totally inappropriate for me to talk about it at all.
But, like, to hear them, and then you start learning, like, oh, this is the kind of shit
that they joke around about between them, each other, you know?
But then people would be, like, people have white friends and then talk about that
within each other.
And they make them feel comfortable to do it.
You used to be in fun of other white person.
I never feel.
You said you used to be?
You're used to being made fun of as a white person because if you kick it with black people
or Hispanic people at all, they're going to be cutting ass on you for all this white shit.
Not like certain white people.
A lot of white people don't go around other races like that, you know?
You're the kind of white person that I look at like a biker or something.
Like somebody would have, like, if I didn't know you and know what you did ever,
and I'd just seen you walk up the street, I would think he was a biker, probably did UFC,
probably drink like me and probably smoke weed.
You know what I'm saying?
So that's just stereotyping.
I wonder what's going on with the norm.
white people like I see white people and I wonder like damn that's crazy like the white like the white
color like like what do you mean I mean I mean like I'd be in like Starbucks just looking at people
just wondering like damn like they're looking at you they probably never heard R SK nephew they don't know
what the fuck I'm listening to you know they're you know I wonder about them I'd be surprised now
when I do see them this talk like damn I was like man this shit crazy man how they think like me
like what makes them they come from a different background different family they had their mom
and dad how they relate into this i'll just be you know definitely how how how crazy how would you describe
your style and how you sort of arrived at your style and especially sometimes when you've been doing
these like 16 minute songs that are like the same exact flow the whole time and it's just you just
hit me over the head with the craziest shit i ever heard in my life how did you like arrive at that
style um it's just this like how we can keep talking how we can just continue like to like talk to my
Bunky, talk to my shirdy or talk to God, talk to anybody.
Like my son of American terrorists, I was just basically just, I was talking to everybody.
Like me closing my eyes while I'm rapping, I'm talking to my grandma, I'm talking to
the pastor, I'm talking to the CEO, I'm talking to the judge, the lawyer, and the jury,
I'm talking to everybody.
You know what I'm saying?
I got in, it's not a diss.
I'm just average.
I'm talking.
I'm asking questions, speaking how I feel.
Right.
So you're not really, like, thinking about how the audience is necessarily going to feel.
Yeah, I'm not thinking.
Then I just go right to upload it because really I'd be booted.
Like, I'd be off of different drugs.
Like, you know, I count down now more, you know what I'm saying?
But then I just as soon as I get done recording, I go straight to my phone and upload it.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
Then I start seeing comments and then I start seeing shit.
And then I just leave it.
Are you worried it all about getting more and more into the industry or whatever?
Because that's the whole thing that happens as you get into the industry is that if you ever sign on a label, they're going to make it so like, you can't just drop shit all the time.
That's the number one thing artists complain about once they get on a label.
Well, man, I'm just, I hope.
I think I'm going to be the first one that just changed shit, bro.
I'm trying, I'm, like, I ain't got no choice but it changes because I'm not thirsty for nothing.
I don't need no money.
I don't need shit.
Like, I'm got everything I need.
Right.
So it's like, I don't need no more.
I'm just fresh as shit.
So there's another rapper you rap with RX Poppy.
Yeah, that's my car.
Oh.
So is RXK?
Is that RX Poppy killer?
No, no, no.
No.
No.
No, probably my brother.
That was, I thought at first, I'm like, did they have beef at some point?
Is that where the RXK?
It's very out of ordinary to have somebody who's RX and somebody who's RX and they're cool with each other.
We usually assume the K is for killer.
Yeah, no, facts, though.
Everybody be asking that.
But it kind of, like, people could say that.
Yeah, you can say that.
Yeah, you can say that, but everybody other than Poppy, they can take that as a killer.
Okay.
Like, they can take it.
I would like, they can take it however they feel.
Okay.
So it was like, but Poppy's my brother.
You know, brothers argue all the time.
How'd you guys become cool?
Was he rapping before you?
I'm pretty sure.
I don't know.
He was rapping when I was present probably.
Okay.
When I came home and then we really like,
but we were from like down the street.
Our husband was down the street from each other.
Okay.
Actually, I told, you know, he knew I was coming.
He wanted me to FaceTime and see if I was cool with you.
Yeah, yeah.
Let's say I don't.
Man, shit, I'm seeing if we'll pick up, but it was right down the street from each other.
He seems like a fucking genius.
I had to, once I realized it was just going to be you and not you guys together,
I had to stop listening to him because I'm like,
I don't want to be quoting bars from,
Poppy acting like they're from
nephew sometimes it can be a little confusing
Let me see man
I don't got no Wi-Fi I hope I got the good service in the
world yeah my boy
Alright so where shall I put it at?
Should I put it like this? Hold it up to the
mic. What's going on poppy? How are you living?
I heard
That's what's up
Oh man I think my Wi-Fi fucking up
He's frozen
She'll call them regular
What's up you there? You there? You there?
What's the word?
Shout it out, man.
Speak your peace.
Oh, my God.
House wants a scammer, girl.
You're never getting it.
Dark shit record, West.
I love you, because.
You want to ask me a day, don't?
We'll wait until he comes out here.
We definitely got to get you on the podcast, man.
You know that.
I love you, because.
What a ball of energy that guy is.
He never stopped.
Boy, the whole time, that's my boy, I love him deaf.
He's sad.
That's my brother, man.
Yeah.
But do you feel, because you guys sort of,
have a few similarities, like style-wise, rapping-wise. Did you feed off of him? Every fucking
day, we, we, like, I'm right here. We write, we write, we write there together every time.
Like, you know what I'm saying? We're engineering each other. Like, we started off,
and I'm saying? When you're recording, what's, what's the environment like? Are you guys, like,
really in a crack house or some shit? We just drink it, we wherever. We take the booth everywhere.
We used to be outside of crack. We, we outside, waiting outside of crack house,
waiting for that check. With a mic. With a mic. With a mic, in the laptop.
Really? You know what I'm saying? We take that. We take that
Mike and that laptop everywhere.
We started off with Adele,
then we got a Mac, you know what I'm saying?
So everywhere.
We got auntie house.
We have my mom house.
We got his house.
And you don't have to worry about the wind or dog barking.
That's all in there.
It's all in there.
Yeah, it's all in there.
Just put a little telephone effect on it and fuck it.
Wow.
Yeah, man, you know,
I really care.
Is Henney your drug of choice?
Like, you talk about it's so passionate.
I know.
I love it.
I can't even remember.
I always got it.
There's so many fucking bars about Henny that I can't even remember one right now.
But it's like you really have like a love affair with that
shit, huh? Like, Hitty tastes like purple pops at me.
And he tastes like pop rocks when I was little.
You know what I'm saying?
Hennie was, I love this shit, man.
Yeah.
But people always talk shit about it. Some people say they, it's cheap or I don't
know what they talk about. I just did it anyway.
Everybody loves it.
You're saying the girls think they're too good for Hennie?
I'm like, I don't ever met those girls.
Yeah, they want Mowette.
Like, you know, a lot of people want Mowette.
They want pop champagne.
They want to pulling up with sparkles.
But that shit make you piss.
You got run to the bathroom every two, three seconds.
And then you're pissing a long time, too.
You're standing there for a long time.
Definitely.
I want to drink this.
The industry got these people deceived into thinking that they need to drink all these
fancy new alcohols and shit, right?
They got them thinking they got to get designer clothes and everything.
But I'd be way fresher than them.
You're trying to turn Henny into like Ross now.
And then the 1944 is the lit shit.
That's the Gucci, etc.
You know?
Like the Doucet, I don't drink.
I don't want, like, do you say the bottle is just the bottle of stupid.
If it was easier to hold, I could put in my pocket, I cannot put a bottle of
a bottle of Douce in my pocket.
Mm, no.
Mm-mm.
No.
Maybe that's not cool, but I can sneak this in.
I can put this in my underwear.
Didn't you say the gun got a funny body like DJ Khalid?
Well.
The muffin top, like a melting ice cream cone.
It's just melting and it froze.
I'm like, Cali got the definition of a funny body.
No, he does, though.
He's trying to get it and say it.
I know he's seen it.
That's what doesn't make any sense.
How was he working out so much?
I know, right?
I've never seen him lose a pound.
Because for people on his ass.
You know what I'm saying?
The same reason Rick Ross.
Probably health, though.
older. Because as I get, you know,
in 30s and closest, I'm going to start
drinking some water. You know what I'm saying? Get
more healthy. I'm out in LA. They trying to give me smoothies.
Oh, yeah, you're going to mix the Henny with the water.
I mean, now at the same time, but
and I just keep drinking.
Haney water. At first I started up drinking this because I
just didn't give a fuck about life.
But now I'm just trying to...
You're starting to see the vision? I'm starting to see the vision.
I can really make something on myself. Yeah.
Yeah, I'm making sure. I'm making money now.
Yeah. Still independent. How's that going?
I'm happy.
I'm grateful.
I'm grateful to have money and be like, damn,
I didn't have to risk my freedom to get this.
Wow, man, man.
I'm grateful.
I just want to share it, though,
and I want to keep getting up to levels and then spread it,
but it's just not going to work like that.
Why not?
Well, I can spread it between, like, I got kids and then wife,
but then family's not going to understand
because they didn't do it during their lifetime.
So they don't understand, like,
the steps that you went through to get where you at,
so they just put pressure on you, pressure, pressure,
until you crack.
you know, arguments, you know, shit like that.
Definitely.
So just someone's waiting your shoulders.
You want to bring everybody up with you.
The reality is a lot of people aren't ready for any kind of stardom or whatever.
Yeah, they're not ready for anything at all.
They're not ready to leave their couch, really.
Yep.
That's a fair.
And yeah, so.
But I can still help them.
I can go half on my love rent right now without a deal.
You know what I'm saying?
That's good.
Whatever you're paying right now, double or triple that and I can pay it.
But I can't buy it.
Who do you feel like your fan base is right now, like the kind of people that you really see gravitating towards your music?
It's changing every day, though.
You know what I'm saying?
That shit changing every day.
At first it used to just be crack dealers and robbers.
And then now it was like everybody from Asians, whites.
And it went from the hood to other countries.
And then it's just like every race in America now.
So now it's crazy like from Austin.
That's crazy because like when I look at your shit, the views don't seem that wild, but then it feels like everybody I know when I'm listening to it.
They already know about you and they already heard about it.
And that's crazy.
That's what blow my mind.
And they'd be like, yo, this person, this person, this person.
And everybody knows me.
And then I go to the show and see their reactions.
And I'm like, I do not know this, but that's because I dropped so much.
And they be like, you drop so much.
You drop so much.
You drop so much.
What's this?
Play this.
And I'd be like, damn, I did shit of chill.
But nah, I'm rapping every day.
I'm never going to run out of it.
raps because I'm a rap about a day.
Right. Because when I go through your fucking Spotify,
it's like you got like a hundred different
mixtapes and it's the oldest one
is 2020. That's crazy.
That's crazy. Because when I got to jail
2019, did I
I get a jail? I don't even remember no more. I'm not even
going to talk about that.
I'll remember. But you do put out
like a crazy amount of music.
At a certain point people start to feel like, oh, I'm
space my project's out. Nah, because I...
You don't care about that yet, right? No, I used to
feel like if I'm in the booth, by the time I
I'm having fun rapping.
By the time I'm rapping in my bag, my phone ring.
I got to go hit a lick.
I go hit that lick, come right back to the studio.
My phone ring.
You know, if I'm in the studio for six hours,
my phone got a ring, but I'm not feeling like I lost anything.
I'm in the same spot until my phone ring.
That helped me save so much money.
And then I used to, you know, when I started off,
I used to be on a can of Four Locco.
And then I got my little weed, my eighth,
and I rode like little gel blunts.
And I was rapping, rapping, rapping, raping,
but I did not think,
because I was rapping before I went to jail
I used to still put it on YouTube, but it didn't go nowhere.
Right.
Like, I did a total of six years, and I came home with 300 views.
Nobody listened to that shit.
What did you think the big change was that made people start to fuck with it?
Because I stopped giving the fuck.
I started talking about people around me.
I started dissing everybody from my mom to my motherfucking my ops across the street,
the corner store, family dollar.
I diss Nike for putting out some shit I don't like.
I swear to God, that shit crazy.
But you were dissing the ops.
You never had them pull up on you or not?
Yeah, but I'd be going crazy, though.
Right.
I swear to God, I go crazy every time.
But that's why, you know, I can, that's why I got no missing teeth, no scratches, no, I've been shot, stat.
Because the gangsters love me.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
I beef with certain gangsters, it'd be murder beef.
But by the time we get to each other, we just, you know what I'm going to tell you, get in front of a gangster.
Y'all about to just kill each other and y'all just drop everything.
Y'all just like, it's not worth it, bud.
You got a family.
I got a family.
I kill you.
You'll kill me.
I know that.
I wish I heard more stories like that.
Nah, because it's a gangster killing the bitch nigger.
Or it's a bitch-naker killing a gangster.
Well, but these days it's like, motherfuckers, yeah, they don't really get face-to-face.
They shoot up each other's cribs, so they never got to even see each other.
It's really some ho-ad shit.
Yeah, but I'm the type to pull up.
So it's like, boom, like, I used to see in the comments.
I see in the comments all the time.
You can't come to Houston or you can't come to this place or you can't come this place.
And I pull up and I got certain people on Instagram that fuck with me.
They take me to the mall, the foot locker, you know, other people, and they all fuck with me.
It's all genuine.
So I don't believe that
I'm not going to look at the comments and be like
Mission again don't fuck with me so I'm not going to go there
Right
You know what I'm saying that's crazy bro, that shit big as shit
Yeah
No yeah
Whenever you hear that like oh he's banned from the state
But I can get caught up a little bit
Like then what the fuck you mean
It depends who say it though
Yeah
Because some people would be having say so
But you because you'd be hearing that like
Oh so and so is banned from L.A
Doesn't mean anything until the right person is the one saying
Yeah to the right person is saying it
There's a few people in L.A that can ban you from L.A
but there's not many.
If you don't give a fuck, you just don't give it fuck.
You're going to have to send them people to catch that L to take that time.
Definitely.
Well, the people like in your area and stuff, like, they love your music.
I think I heard you say something about how like you're basically like a star rapper to a lot of people in your area.
They love it.
But I got certain haters.
The only hate, the only people that hate me is the people that was close to me, like during school and during growing up.
They're the only people that hate everybody else was like me.
like all the other options they love me
but it's just the people that grew up with
because they felt like they felt like
I'm doing something they shouldn't be able
you know what I'm saying?
Did you see that you really
you got a pitchfork review
did you see that?
Like I think right?
I got a lot of them.
I got a lot of them.
Okay, because I was shocked when I saw that
I'm like oh damn.
I got a lot of them.
I got shit a lot of them.
Yeah.
That kind of blew my mind
like having places like pitchfork
which is like a total
fucking white music review
publication.
I did an EBM album, bro.
I did the EDM album.
Who wanted to do cocaine?
Sly the Man activated.
Let me just make sure I'm not tripping.
I'm going to search RXK nephew pitch for it.
Yeah, there it is.
Yeah, they reviewed Slythe Man activated.
Yeah, Slead Man activated.
Shout out of my DJ, Al Money.
He engineered that.
We should just read the entire article.
Well, no, the blur at the top.
The Rochester rapper is at his best
when he isn't folding to the pressures of wider appeal
or tightly packaged collaborations on his latest project.
I guess that's fair
I heard they give a bad review on that
they were saying they gave a bad review
I don't know what they're because they don't want me to cross over
I don't know what they're talking about
they paid me to do that
I mean a 5.9 from pitchfork
is not like an incredible score
but it does seem like for a brand new rapper
that that's pretty decent
every single beat was on it was different
I never did any kind of beat I was on it
but I was getting like I said
I was getting paid to do it
so like I was getting paid to do it
So.
What do you mean get paid to do it?
Like, somebody paid you.
I do beat placements.
So I post on Instagram, B placement, B placement.
And then I tapped in with a producer I'd known before that I did a placement
with a long time ago.
And he was like, yo, let's do a project together.
I work with this label.
I'm going to give you this for events.
We've got a little contract together.
I also, so.
You know what I'm saying?
I was sitting on the couch in two bedroom apartment.
Uh-huh.
You know what I'm saying?
So I took that and I black.
I sat right there on the couch, went crazy, black.
And I sent all the session files to my DJ had money and we got crazy.
Yeah.
Yeah, for sure.
Who's Slitherman?
I don't even know.
What's the inspiration, though?
There had to be something going through your head
that made you want to use that as a reference point, right?
No, I'm saying honestly, he came out.
Scythman, I don't know if you're Slyman.
I think the real, like, when I first, first, first ever,
like, genuinely honestly speaking to my first first ever did the voice,
it was from men in black, the nigger who was like,
sugar and water, more sugar, more water.
Remember?
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
But I really was thinking about that because I knew his feeling.
You know what made me think about that?
You know exactly what I'm talking about?
Yeah, it sounds familiar.
Yeah, man, I haven't seen men in black like 20 years.
I know, right?
I know, right?
But he said more sugar and more water.
He had his glass of water and then he turned into some other shit.
His head split and something came out, but make a long story short, went into that
and that voice is crazy.
I'm going to put men and black on the list.
Men and black, man, we ain't watching that no more.
I don't like Will Smith.
I just.
I noticed that. I noticed that.
Yeah. I don't know.
Somebody was asking about that movie, but I don't know.
I don't want to see it. My grandma showed me that shit. I hate Will Smith. That's crazy.
Right. So you were saying that you think Will Smith is the reason why his son is gay?
Was that what you said?
Why not? He's so so feminine. Look how his wife treat him. Look how his wife treat him like a bitch.
I can't believe he did that. I searched is Jaden Smith gay on Google and it said that it's not clear.
Okay. Well, I don't know. I don't know. What would you think?
I don't know.
I'm saying I'm not homophobic.
I don't got nothing against gay people.
But you know what I'm saying?
Everybody, even a gay person could tell he just, he's like, I don't know.
What is he?
I mean, he told, he's trying to act like Willow?
He told the world that he was dating Tyler the Creator at one point.
Yeah, that's crazy.
I don't know if that was a joke or not.
The house phone said something about Lil B and Kanye.
You know about that?
I don't know about it.
Listen, all I know is that I hear that there's a lot of undercover gay people in the industry,
but I don't know who they are.
I guess sometimes I might know.
Do you think I can start a go-fummy and to fight Blueface and punch him out?
And get like, like, yeah, because, you know what I'm saying?
I mean, he's getting over a million bucks to fight this fucking TikToker right now.
Oh, TikTok, he's getting a million sure to get punched out?
I mean.
So he just wanted to get punched off for a million dollars?
His career hurt like that?
I think he's planning on winning.
Wack 100, line that up?
Black 100 is trying to line up all consciousness.
I swear the guy was Treyway Shadi was home.
He would have been my manager.
Yeah.
Trayway Shadi, he used to go.
Yeah, but I don't know if you want that energy in your life.
Why not?
I've never been gang banging.
I've been to prison.
I never game bang.
I know how to not.
I wouldn't have been,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
No, I'm not ready to start gang bang.
I know how to be around game bangers and not game bang.
You know what I'm saying?
That's smart.
I live and go around gangbangers all day.
But I don't be a part of that.
I'm just that, you know, that person that got what you need.
That's just funny, genuine, loyal, and a gangster.
You never wanted to sign up.
You had the opportunity right in front of you to become a gang member?
Yeah, had the opportunity in prison.
But I just, they wasn't like me.
didn't want to go down that route.
It was just a bunch of people
that had no plan
except for being gangsters.
Every gangstine knew was in jail.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
So it was like,
y'all crazy.
Y'all broke in jail.
Every gang member I know it was broke.
In jail.
In jail.
In jail.
That's New York.
East Coast.
I can't speak for the West Coast.
I don't know.
You know what I'm saying?
You didn't see Casanova while you were locked up?
I don't know.
What the fuck he talked about?
I seen him when I came home,
but he locked up again.
Yeah.
It's cool.
Man, I feel bad for him.
That's crazy.
I don't know why he did that.
It seemed like he didn't even want to, like, he didn't even care for what he had going on because
that was that stupid.
That was crazy.
And he's seen A.R.
I have to do that.
That's crazy.
So many people that are, like, locked up facing crazy house time.
It's just the most obvious shit.
Yeah, why did you do that?
If you're some dude selling fucking $5 worth of crack on the corner, you should still be smart enough
to not be Instagram, DM, and about it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
They know why they were at.
That's crazy.
But you know what?
There's dudes like that every day.
I don't be around people like that.
My circle is small.
It's just RX Piper.
That's why I'm RSC.
It's a lot of RX dudes everywhere.
But I'm just RXK that just differentiate me from them.
But the K is not for killer.
The K is not for killer.
It's the real kind.
Okay.
I'm a thote slitter, killing, drug dealing,
like that found the way and I'm happy and genuine.
And I'm a lawyer person.
And everybody loves me, bro.
From all everywhere, bro.
I like that.
What was going through your head that day that you rhymed King Vaughn with King Vaughn like 80 fucking times in a row in that one song?
Because I never, when I discovered King Vaughn, I was just like, I don't know why I just fuck with him.
I just felt like I was locked up with him.
I just felt like I just know, I don't know.
But I never really listened to his music like that.
I just watch interviews and shit and I just watch, you know what I'm saying?
People were talking about him, but I don't know.
And then I seen a video when he passed away, rest in peace to him.
You know what I'm saying?
I just felt this energy.
And a lot of people was just saying that that was a dumb decision to make.
And I just feel like that's a situation where it could have been me
because I'm going to stand on what I believe and how I feel.
That's how I'm going to go out.
If you saw somebody.
So I just felt like I would, yeah.
You saw somebody you had an issue with you would be happy.
And they were 30 people when they got guns.
Yeah, I would punch them in their shit and I'm going to die.
And I, yeah.
I mean, the crazy part about that is that King Vaughn had armed security.
Yeah.
20 feet away.
You could have told them.
Hey, I'm going to go punch on this dude.
Yeah, but it's just a feeling.
It's just, I don't know.
They don't know how to be gangsters.
It'd be people that's armed, but they just not gangsters.
They don't know how to be a man and stand on what they say.
When the real man standing what he said, he just got us, you know?
Yeah, I feel it.
That shit crazy, though.
But I would have met him, though.
If I see anybody that says, but I don't have beef, though.
I got, like, my home city, I just got fake ops, but I don't have no kind of beef.
Right.
I'll be talking shit, though.
Yeah, the real.
The real, Little Reese.
The real, Little Reese.
Yeah.
What was the inspiration there?
because he's the Grim Reaper, and he keep going outside.
You know what I'm saying?
First, he beat up a bitch, jumped on the girl, and then he's like,
once I see him shitting on this stuff, I'm like, how you do that, bro?
Was that confirmed, though?
No, I don't know if it was confirmed pooped or not, but he still was looking crazy.
It looked like he was about the shit on the stuff.
He was calling for help.
He wasn't even swinging back.
He was having conversation.
Yeah.
Like, he's crazy, bro.
I don't believe him, bro.
I don't believe him.
I don't believe him.
Do you don't believe he's a real gangster?
I just believe Fredo.
I just believe Fredo San Antonio.
I believe all of them looked up to Fraydo.
But that was a lot.
I believe Lil Reese.
I would slap the shit out of Little Reese.
I thought if I would beat the shit out of him.
He could not beat me none of the squad with the shit out of him.
That's crazy,
though.
He definitely got somebody that would shoot you if you slap him.
Yeah, but it's like I would not just slap him out of nowhere.
Okay.
I would not just, come on.
Why would I,
I didn't come this far to just blow everything to just slap Lil Reese.
But if Lil Reese thought in his mind that he can, like, beat me up and do that, he can't.
Okay.
But if it, like, I got people that have to shoot, too.
You know what I'm saying?
I didn't make it this far being a dummy.
When I, every time I run into a real gangster, we connect.
We don't beef.
I don't beef for real gangsters.
I only beef with bitch people, you know what I'm saying?
They understand where I come from.
They understand my kind.
They seen my kind before.
You know what I'm saying?
For sure.
So that's how I feel when I run into other gangsters, though.
When I go to other states, cities, I'm over here.
I feel like if you met, you'd be trying to patch it up, though,
be like, oh, I was just fucking around.
But if I met Reese, bro, I'm like, bro, keep it a buck,
but did you shit on yourself?
I'm like, just keep it a hundred because I genuinely want to know,
bro, I don't know, bro.
Did you shit on yourself?
Because it looked like you did.
They talking shit, they beating you up, kicking you, punching you.
Did you show yourself?
Right.
Like, I wouldn't, like, probably ask him off the rip.
I was shake his hand.
Yo, bro, nice to meet you.
Bro, I don't know if you heard about it, bro.
You know, I'd be blacking, but, you know what I'm saying?
I fuck with Chief.
I fuck with all the niggas.
I know all these songs.
I fuck with them.
2012 hit.
I was listening to all of them, bro.
Like, I could say chief in them is a big reason why I really got in, like, start.
I mean, I got to crunch down.
The niggas, my age is lit, bro.
Like, they're doing the same thing.
I'm doing why can I ride?
I used to tell my men, like, you see these niggas, they stole our swag.
We've been shooting.
We've been 30ed up.
We've been, you know what I'm saying?
So, yeah, I fuck with them, bro.
Do you feel like maybe, like, upstate New York doesn't get enough credit?
We're getting credit now.
Yeah.
Yeah, for like, you know, everybody who talks about Chicago, like, is the craziest most murderous place.
I mean, there's a lot of places where people getting killed all over America, right?
Yeah, all over America, but I know for sure that in New York State, like, versus the five barrels, they know that when they go to prison, upstate is, like, so thick.
They go up there.
You got some people that never left New York City.
They never left Brooklyn, Queens, Bronx, and none of that.
So then they go to prison, like, oh, it's a whole other world up there.
And they're getting punched in their face, beat up, killed, never teeth missing, all the type of shit.
Right.
And then they're going home meeting people like me.
I swear to God, I met people that I was in prison with.
You know what I'm saying?
And I'm pointing like, yo, we was next door or bunkies.
And I'm just, they just like, yo, why don't you tell me you rap?
And I'm like, I ain't know I was going to rap, bro.
I did not write one rap in prison and tell nobody I rap.
Right.
What?
Do you, do they like...
I rap because of poppy.
Do they take the prisoners and then just, like, dump them off,
upstate, like, then they'll bring them all the way back to New York.
So you just end up with a lot of people that just restart their criminal life upstate after they get out of prison?
What you mean?
Like, do they take New York City people and put them upstate?
Well, like, when you get out of prison, if you're from Brooklyn and you're upstate going to prison,
sometimes I've heard that people, they basically just drop you off in upstate.
Like, they'll bring you back to New York City.
So sometimes people end up just sticking around up there, getting caught up again or starting a new trap out there or whatever.
No, definitely be like that.
That's how I almost got caught up.
If it wasn't for music, I'd have been one of those people, bro.
I don't even know why people like my music.
Really?
Why do you think people like it?
I don't know.
I don't know, bro.
I'd be amazed every day, bro.
I'd just be dropping some shit.
Sometimes, like, if I need to pay a quick bill, I'd do a quick feature,
some quick beat placement, and somebody sent me a garbage-ass beat.
And I'd be like, man, that's shit didn't even sound right.
But I just started talking about my shoes,
so I'm talking about my henny, so I'm talking about my blunt, my dad.
and I said end up being my favorite song, bro.
And their favorite song.
That's crazy.
Yeah, it is kind of wild.
I was listening to it.
I was listening to your music for probably like two, three hours in a row the other day while I was on Twitch.
I was in this poker tournament.
And man, it was fucking weird seeing the comments of people who, like, had never heard you before,
just sort of like trying to wrap their head around what the fuck I was listening to.
And it was, uh...
Yeah, because it was different.
You could tell they were having their brain fucking turns out by this whole experience.
My brain would be turned back.
I'd be listening back to it because I don't really be rapping sober.
I need to slow down.
Really?
I don't really be rapping sober.
But no more Four-Loco?
Nah, hell, no.
That shit used to have me shitting every morning.
I ain't know why I was shitting.
Terrible.
I thought, I felt like I ate a lot of Taco Bell, bro.
A lot of hot Diablo sauce.
Man.
I was shit my ass all about.
I used to be puking my fucking guts out all the time back when I was drinking that shit.
What, four-logo?
Oh, my God.
Back in the day?
Yeah.
And, I mean, you're talking about the current Four-Loco.
I'm talking back 2010.
first raw dog the caffeine and the alcohol together oh my god bro this right here i'd never throw up though
really the henny don't make you throw it yeah they better sponsor me too even when i stop drinking i'm
still have henny don't promoted though because it's something that's not going to really it's not gonna
get you addicted and fiend out and i don't know once you really start getting money you're
gonna start drinking lean like all these other rappers though man hell nah people offer me lane i'd be around
people that offer lean i'd be around people that really get money and try to bring me into this and
And I'd be like, no, I got people that offer me clothes.
They'd be like, let me buy you this, bro.
Put some Mangela's on.
Put them chrome hard on.
They can buy a new shirt.
And I'd be like, nah, ma'am, ain't nobody cool.
But me.
You know what I'm saying?
I'd be like, you know what I'm saying?
$50 jeans, Air Max is white ones.
So you're not trying to get fresh like that.
I ain't fresh.
Well, but like that.
That's not fresh what they're doing about.
They're not fresh, bro.
The Margella's.
They never wore that in high school.
Who ordered in high school?
Who ordered in high school?
I mean, kids were in high school.
Your high school.
Your high school.
I didn't even know a Gucci or Louis were when I was 18.
No, I didn't know.
I'm 37.
37?
And white as fuck.
All right, boom.
Okay, right.
I was wearing.
I was looking at the kids in Tommy and Notica like, damn, that's an expensive shit.
That's what I wore.
That's what we wore.
The same shit I wore. It's the same shit we wore.
I don't wear. I was a skater boy. Biker boy. I was not, I wasn't partaking. I wore a radiaz black jeans and like a band t-shirt every day. Pretty much like I still do.
I would be, you know, actually
That's where they got the low jeans, like the $50
jeans. The only time I ever had
nice shit was when we would be stealing shit from Abercrombie
and shit. That's why we're the same way.
Bum-ass East Coast people.
That's why I'll always look at skate parks,
skate park people like they're the same way as well.
They're breaking the cars, stealing shit, trying to sell
crack, sell fake zans, all type
of shit. I come up. No matter where I go,
I end up around junkies. That's crazy.
That's actually, I got to make sure the DMX
people get more into your music because I feel like
they will really embrace it once they figure it out.
They do them.
I see the skateboarders, but BMX is something different,
because they're going to get me into it, and then I'm just, it's lit.
And the BMX riders are really grimy, dirty, filthy fucking people.
Skateboarders, they still get pussy, you know?
Like, you don't really get a lot of pussy as a bike rider.
Yeah, bro.
They try to pit-patch shoot a more job.
There's like three bitches fucking the whole country worth of BMX riders, bro.
Skater dudes, they could get pussy.
No problem.
No, that's a fact, though.
But I'm saying, I don't know.
You skate?
No.
Somebody told me, you was probably hell.
Angels?
No.
Shout out the hell's angels, but no.
No, no, shout out to him.
I've never been on a motorcycle, for starters.
You never did?
No.
Well, me neither.
I'm a shy, though.
You should?
Why?
You think you're full of?
I don't know, man.
I just know a lot of people who died off that shit.
No, that's a fire.
And I know that from all these years riding bikes, I feel like if I get on a motorcycle,
I'm going to be real loosey-goosey with it and I don't want to see what's going to
happen then.
I feel like I'll definitely die.
No, facts, fine, fine, fine, fine, five, facts.
Why did you say that little Kim look like money back?
I said, I said, a little baby looked like money bag, yo.
He kind of do, though.
But little Kim, too, right?
Little Kim, but Little Kim face is crazy.
She's like she got beat with a Glock.
She looked like some shit.
She got stomped on with two feet.
Like, somebody just, um, boom, boom, um, her cheek bones just went like this.
Her lip was like this.
That's a fact.
But there's certain people that made me wish that plastic surgery had never been invented.
She might be amazed.
I'd be like, damn.
I met somebody in jail that said they was going to go home, sell, crack.
and get plastic surgery.
A dude?
A donkey, bud.
A dude.
He was like, yo, he just jumped up out here.
I had the top monkey at the bottom, but he just jumped up.
He was like, yo, when I go home, when I stack this money I was telling you about,
he was like, y'amma move my eyebrows up a little bit.
What the fuck?
And he was like, I'm going to bring my cheekbones down.
You should get transferred out of that cell immediately.
Like, hey, yeah, yeah, I got out of here.
But, no, he said, yo, all my life, they told me I was ugly.
He's like, I know I'm an ugly nigga.
I'm like, damn, bro.
You could be ugly as a dude.
It's all good.
That's what I said.
It don't matter.
There's a lot of rich, famous fucking ugly-ass dude.
Ugly as shit, bro.
Look at KIS1.
He was ugly his whole life.
He's still a lot.
Yeah, but he had to basically, like, invent the genre of rap music to beat that.
What about Flavor Flav?
So I'm saying.
20 bitches.
He accomplished a lot in order to avoid the fact that he is ugly.
Okay.
You know, like.
Yeah, but he showed niggas like Bawa and Romeo that.
It's over.
But they're pretty.
Huh?
Pause.
Bow wow.
They look good.
I mean, he's a little guy, but.
But they got colored.
eyes and shit, bro.
They can't protect no girl.
No girl be like, I feel protected.
You can't save nobody, bro.
Niggas will whoop your ass, bro.
He sold your way about to whoop his ass,
right?
Possibly.
Why did you say, he said
Obama was never black.
They should have said,
that's my Hawaiian friend.
That's crazy, right?
I mean, where does that come from?
Because what is his name?
Tell me his first and last name.
Barack Hussein Obama.
Word.
And then he's Hawaiian, right?
And then it's like,
what year they made that estate
it's like come on man he's an island
he's not connected to it's not connected to the
US bro that is crazy bro he's
really it's got something to do
he really oh what's that dude killed yourself
Osama Bin Laden
they killed him he killed himself suicide
on TV he was going live
I remember I was the elementary school he was going
live Bud Dwyer
he was going listen he was going live
on TV he killed himself
or they killed him they said they killed
him Osama bin Laden or it was
on something bin Laden bro?
They killed him. They pulled up and killed him. In the white sheet.
If you believe the account that was
told by the U.S. government. I read in a conspiracy book
a conspiracy book in jail that
they just, that was all like, you know.
But they could have
captured bin Laden,
but they decided to just kill him on the spot, which is
pretty, that says a lot. Because
there's like nobody is getting captured in America
and they just, you're standing there with your hands up
and they just kill you anyway. That shit showed
me that shit like Pinky and Brain and
Mojo, Joe, Joe. That's like, I'm, I can
take over the world. That's what I'm kind of doing. And that shit that used to just gravitate.
Like, even though I didn't care about it, when I used to get off the school bus and walk straight
to the kitchen for my peanut butter and jelly sandwich, I hear my grandma in there looking at
Osama bin Laden on the news talking about, I don't know what he's talking about, he's about to get lit.
And they care about him. He didn't have nobody. He knows of a celebrity or nobody.
But he, you know, for real?
Yeah, well, I'm taking over the world. Fuck that. I support that.
I'm dissing every Bible that came out. When I was in jail, I used to do that, though. I used to
question every the Quran all that right yeah that's what's funny people get locked up and they
decide they're just going to believe in some random religion first religion they hear about they're
like I'm down like I need anything I can get in here yeah that's just crazy that's that what is that
what they all do it man and then they want to say you're an asshole if you disagree with their religion
it's like no shit is just fucking totally made up and you just latched on to it because you needed a
helping hand while you're in prison yep a helping hand just to eat and just to have somebody
can be accepted.
I mean, jail's just so shitty that people just cling to a religion because they know
they need something.
I was Rastafarian.
See?
Yo, because listen, though.
I was Rastafarian off the K2?
What?
They brought me yams, curry chicken, all that shit.
You think Bob Marley ever smoked K2?
What?
There's a bar.
What?
I swear God.
It's weird that in my head, Bob Marley smoked K2.
That just sounds like a bar.
You don't have said it yet, but it sounds like a bar.
No, it does sound like a bar, though.
Yeah.
Because I don't know when that shit was invented, but that shit is crazy.
It's just 30,000 times intense of weed, but it gives you the withdraw 30 times of heroin.
You got to make Alex take you around Skid Row because you smell hella K2.
Like that's where all the whiff's jaw.
I'm trying to stay away from that because I used to smoke that for like two, three years.
So I had to get off of that, bro.
I had throwing up, sweating and shit.
And were you whaling?
Like, was it really making you do some crazy shit?
I never had an episode to where I wild out of my family.
I was always conscious, but it just had me, like, finked out.
Like, I needed it.
It was the itch to scratch every five minutes, every two seconds.
You never smoked Sharm?
No, no, no, no, no.
A lot of great rap music been made off that shit.
What's that? That's that.
PCP.
O.G. Bobby Johnson?
O.G. Bobby Johnson?
That's what they call it?
O.G. Bobby Johnson, that movie.
Yeah.
But they smoked Shirm in that movie?
PCP.
Tukukukwool.
Yeah.
Shout to him.
Wutang.
All the old Wutang albums were made off PCP.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Staten Island.
Yeah.
Oh, man, PCP?
Yeah.
To my bombing fluid?
Yeah.
Dip cigarettes?
Yeah.
Syracuse.
Shout out to my boy eyes.
He's shy to my boy ass.
Nah, they'd be wilding, though.
I don't know.
I never tried it, though, but the only, I'm grateful.
That's why I'm grateful for jail.
Mm-hmm.
I'm a little chap like a motherfucker.
It don't matter, but I can crack this water?
For sure?
For sure?
You didn't touch this?
Check it.
Did you touch it, though?
Sealed paint.
You put this there?
You put this thing?
I didn't touch it.
All right.
But now, um, you know what I was saying, bro?
Something about putting K2 in your ass, I don't know.
38 special and Gazenda did that.
Listen, why you interview Murder Mook and Loader Lacks?
Yo, I never heard of a grown man call himself a MOOC.
What's wrong with him?
Mook. Mook means faggot in New York.
Everybody knows that.
Mook means faggot.
No disrespect to gay people.
I'm not homophobic.
I would never say that, but listen, that's what MOOC means in New York.
And his name is Murder, Mook.
I mean, there's a lot of slang that means one thing and that means some gay shit to other people.
Mook can't mean nothing else.
He just ran with it.
And I never heard like a...
But he'd been that for like 20 years.
20?
How old is he?
I mean, he's been around.
Lug's had a V-neck or $5 a V-neck for the corner store.
He is so hurt, man.
I swear to God, that shit is crazy.
I don't even know about...
Because I've seen it.
I follow you, man.
Oh, okay.
But no, I went to juvenile.
I live from New York.
I mean, I'm from New York.
I went to juvenile.
For them to get the inmates to calm down, they bring DVDs in.
They bring porn.
those rap battles.
I would see these niggas.
So then I was young,
a teenager, and I was seeing when I come home
and now I'm older and see these same people.
They still look the same way in the same clothes
and still talk about the same thing.
That's crazy.
I am disappointed at them.
What's murdering about?
What's murder supposed to do?
He's supposed to do something, bro.
You better switch over to real estate or something.
Go get a job, bro.
Start driving 18-wheelers, bro.
That's crazy.
You still doing the same thing.
He's wearing Hudson Leathers and shit and fittets and shit.
That's crazy, bro.
You got people over here
It's the past
He's just sitting there
I would be disappointed
But I couldn't talk to my mom
To tell him anything
Damn
I hope Murray will get some bars for you
I would kill him
He can't rap better than me
Nobody can rap better to me
I swear to God
I'm gonna wrap my ass off
I'm gonna rap like my life
Depended on it every time
Until they kill me man
I'm a rap night
What would you say if you saw
A booge?
A boogie?
I'm gonna ask him
Do he think he can beat me?
Rappwise?
Matter of fact
No if I see E Boogie
I'm gonna whoop his ass
You should never did that to Little B, bro.
Right. Huh? Little B?
Little B? A. B. A. B from Highbridge Projects in the Bronx.
Like, I don't know if he's a gang. I don't know. I don't care his story.
But I know how the project says in the Bronx.
Little B is Little B. Why would you assault him?
Go assault Chief Keefe.
What I realized after that happened, what I realized is that...
They took his laptop, too. And he...
Little B got fake drags, man. A little B. Be delusional, bro.
Come on. Little B is fucking.
got mental health issues.
And why is you punching on him?
We fuck with Lil B.
Got my vans on,
but they look like sneakers.
Okay, but this is the thing is that when that happened,
I realized that A, Boogie and P&B Rock
had no fucking clue
why we all hold Little B in such high regard.
To them, it was just another dude who tucked shit
and they seen him.
Oh, we got to run down on him.
Man, I swear to God,
do you really think P&B rock
or anybody of hip hopper don't know Lil B, bro?
Stop playing, bro.
If you don't know,
Lil B, you're not nothing, bro.
I don't even want to know you.
Lil B came out 2008, 2009, 2010-ish.
I could see it that like, you know, 10-plus years removed from that.
These dudes are out rolling loud, and they're like, oh, that guy talks shit about me.
They don't know how much we loved him and how much he means to the culture overall.
They're from the hood.
They're from the Bronx.
I'm totally open to the, well, not P&B, right, but like, I'm totally open to the possibility of the A-Bugie just in the hood.
He don't know nothing about Lil B.
That doesn't surprise me.
That doesn't surprise me?
Yeah, because I mean...
That's, bro, man.
I've been around, man.
Me and A. Bougie party around the same age, bro.
But he might have been doing his thing in the Bronx.
You don't know what's going on in the internet.
I've been around, bro.
Listen, I was always traveled, bro.
And I was in the Bronx at 13 and called Pyramid and Juvenile.
Everybody from New York State goes to the same reception center.
And they stay there for two weeks to a month.
As a juvenile in every New York City, like, they know, bro.
Like, I've been around for everything.
for the YG shit, like, it's crazy, bro.
What about a boogie ass and P&B?
I would fight them at the same time and blueface, bro.
Whop blue face ass, bro.
I can't really stop.
I do UFC.
I thought you'd do UFC, but I'd be getting to battle fights and shit, bro.
I got COVID.
I'm weak as fuck now.
I can never fight again.
Yeah, but know what I said in the rap that Alex said?
It was never no disrespect.
I fought with you.
You're the coolest podcast in the world.
I fought with you more than any podcast, though.
Oh, you said something about giving me top or something, huh?
What was that?
Something like that.
All right.
You don't think it's, you don't think,
you're in the porn, bro?
I heard you a point, huh?
Yep.
Bro, they told me in jail
that you was better than Brian Pumper,
bray.
They're dead right.
They told me I need to get your shit,
buddy.
Damn, my name rings bells in the jail
up in Racha.
They said you had Tims on the bitch neck like this.
That's not true,
but I'm gonna disagree with it, yeah.
Bitch with the elbow,
hit the bitch on the top of him.
You fuck with Brian Pumper?
Huh?
You fuck with Brian Pumper?
I heard about him in jail.
What the fuck?
I sell pussy books.
Legends.
I really didn't get crazy like that,
but I got pussy books on deck.
I'm a hustler.
So whatever you need, I got.
I got the shit with Brian pumping it, too.
That's what you want.
You know what I'm saying?
That's what I'm saying?
I got the 18 plus all that.
We did an episode of the Patreon
with this naked Asian girl
who was sitting right where you're sitting,
actually, and she fucking was telling us
that she was talking about wanting to fuck Brian Pumber
and her boyfriend said,
that's the one dude you're not allowed to fuck.
Why?
He's jealous or something.
Yeah, I ain't going to fun.
Even though he always had fake jury,
he always been delusional and stupid.
and crazy.
He'd be fucking them hoes.
He'd be fucking them hoes, though.
I hear a lot.
He'd be fucking them hoes.
Bro, because I know older dudes in L.A.
who will be like, yo, like
Brian Pumper, he used to be in the club.
He would have three bitches on leashes.
He was the man.
He had the fly-est bitches.
I'm pretty sure that has not been the case
for a long time, especially since I'm pretty sure
he's locked up right now.
But for a while, he was the man around town.
Which is, you know.
It says a lot.
You need a liar.
Shit, I know that work.
Yeah, that's crazy, though.
Yeah, I don't know.
We're Brian Pump Brad.
That's some old shit.
That's some OG shit.
Yeah.
We seen video of them getting locked up
and then somebody sent me paperwork saying he was locked up for some offenses of the sexual.
Brian Pum is delusional, bro.
All that fake jewelry he ran around with, that's crazy, bro.
He goes to quarter store and get big body shit.
And the funniest thing is that he was on Vlad and he said, oh, you know, celebrities,
they don't wear a million dollars worth of jewelry to go out because, you know,
they wear a fake version of that jewelry, which, okay, maybe some celebrities do that.
That's clearly not what you're doing.
You do not have the real version of that at home.
You fucking liar.
You ever listening to Young Glish?
Nah.
Matter of fact, I heard like two, three songs.
I had two songs, two songs.
That just came to mind.
Where he's at?
He's around here somewhere.
Where?
L.A.?
He's from North Carolina?
Well, he's from...
North Carolina?
No, not North Carolina.
He's from D.
Chicago?
D.C.
Right.
What did you taste?
I forgot.
That's bad.
I interviewed him twice.
Now, you were saying,
you should listen to Young Gleche more,
because I feel like I heard.
You ever interviewed Lil Reese?
I'm not about to cut you out.
What you said?
Lil Reese.
I've been trying to do the interview,
but then he goes and does fucking Cam Capone news.
And then talk shit about him.
I don't know how you said anything about me?
And no offense to Cam Capone,
because I just was checking out of his channel watching the LaRees shit,
but I don't know.
For some reason,
Loiree is fucking scared to come doing that jump or Vlad TV.
I don't know.
That's crazy, bro.
You don't want to support us.
Because he act like, I don't know.
He'd go up there for an interview and have people asking his questions.
He asked specifically for these questions,
and then just,
This is this and act like, I don't want to do no interview.
I don't want to talk to these niggas.
I would probably really ask him straight.
I would ask him like, what happened with the situation?
Like, did you shit on yourself?
Like, I would like to know the real version of that story.
I don't think he wants to talk about shit.
I want to know, did you shoot an uppercut of jab?
Did you come out the store?
Did they jab you or did they up a pole?
Did you not fight back because they had a gun?
Or who was you trying to call?
Like, was it your last call?
You trying to call Jesus or your mom?
Yeah.
That's crazy, man.
You could have at least got up off the ground.
but I don't been jumped by 11 people.
I don't know.
All I know is I did have a little recent.
I had a little recent interview booked years ago.
I actually hired a fucking undercover cop to be there to like do security because we're
supposed to do duck in the same day.
So I'm thinking, all right, I'm going to get security at the shop so that if there is any kind
of overlap between them, then they could help handle it or whatever.
And they both bailed, which was nice to get dissed by both gangs at the same time.
They probably, that's crazy.
Same day.
Little Reese is crazy
Chief Keep is crazy
Yeah you said you're fresher than him
Huh?
Yeah, I'm fresh
Because not
I ain't gonna front
I say I'm fresher than whoever is fresh
Okay
I say I'm fresher than whoever is fresh
So if I say I'm fresh in you
I think you're fresh
Okay
That glow gang
Cloven line is fired
That's it's true
That's shit been fire
But Chief Keith
He's crazy, bro
You won't do that interview either
Why I don't know
What's wrong with him?
You think he too boozy?
I don't know
Maybe don't want to put himself out there like that
He'll play in PS5
He'll always hit me up
They just tell me he fucks with me,
but then I'll be like,
let's do the interview,
he'll be like, no.
Because he didn't want to talk,
you probably got,
I ain't going to front.
I wasn't special at it.
Chief Keep would have been in my class,
but we probably would have picked on him
because he would have just sat there twisting his dreds
the whole day like this.
Huh?
Style, yeah.
Now I fought with Chief,
man,
that's the,
Chief is just like Gucci,
man.
Chief pit him out work,
man.
I never would have been thinking about a little dirt
having fake dreads if it wasn't for you talking about it.
I know,
right?
How's hair get that long?
I grew my shit in jays.
gel because I didn't have shit else to do.
I put peanut butter in jelly and twist it and my shit just grew out.
Look, split.
You see that?
That's hard.
You know what I'm saying?
Little Dirk, that's crazy.
He got the same shit.
Fetty Wap got, they don't got them.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, but Fettie Woff had fake dreads like five years ago.
Are they not real by now?
They don't just grow in?
Yeah, yeah, they're real by now.
Little Dirk just followed the same trend, so I guess they're just making it cool now.
But for a person that grows real out there's score and it takes months that I just felt
like, what the fuck, bro?
Yeah.
You know, when I saw it, when I realized the 6-9 was running around with a lace front.
Yeah, that was kind of mind-blowing to me.
When I first saw a picture where I could just tell that there was a wig, I was like, oh, fuck.
Because I was thinking like, damn, you really dying your hair like that like every week.
You know, this is a real shit.
This is a real shit.
Hold on a whole.
This is a real shit.
When I seen that, it was a real lace front, I seen a video and I seen that line like, you're talking about.
I knew that he was trying to feed his family, man.
I wouldn't never do it, but I knew that he was desperate.
I'm like, yeah, you're desperate, bro.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
He's ready to suck dick, lick balls, lick ass.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
Probably.
I want to disprove.
I hope he's, but I'll be seeing his baby mind.
I follow her.
I'd be liking her pictures and shit.
Oh, yeah, Sarah.
Yeah, I follow her, bro.
Sarah's dope.
Sarah harder.
She's way harder than her.
I treat her way better than he did.
She got the BBL now, bro.
Upgrade.
She just went up like three points.
Word, bro.
Easy.
Don't she don't fuck with him.
Except if she had brand deals for the BBL and, like,
got to post the before and after.
photos on the feed and shit.
I'm not mad at that.
Nah, I'm gonna fuck her.
I'm, boy, I like her.
I'm not gonna never unfollow her.
I don't follow everyone.
I don't follow famous Dex.
I'm about to unfollow Rich the kid.
Why are you going to follow Dex?
Because Dex's worried about what the media
say about him.
He worried about what everybody
tell him what everybody says about.
That's not right.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Like, go through your shit.
If you want to do drugs, do it.
Don't go, you know, he's going through shit
because other people pressuring him, bro.
He just don't.
The weird thing for me in Dex is, like,
I remember when he was Mr. Popular,
he had everybody on his dick dying
and just be hanging out around him and shit,
and then it just slowly,
it just got worse and worse with the drugs,
and the people don't want to be around him,
and it's just crazy watching it all play out.
Yeah, with everybody telling him,
he'd go live and all his viewers telling him
he need to get help.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
And he's saying that he went to,
they went to fucking rehab
and stuff, I don't really.
You don't believe that?
I mean, he can't,
no, I ain't go for it.
He did something, though,
because he came out with a haircut.
He got two lines in this shit,
like riff-wrath.
He was switching it up,
you know what I'm saying?
He did look a little sober,
but now it's quiet.
I mean,
he getting coked up.
He needs to might as well invite me,
we'd even do a feature.
His music is like, you know,
the drugs are probably a problem for show,
but like, his music is just,
it has never grown or changed at all.
It's just like,
that's such a big part.
That's such a big part of what he would need to change if he wanted people to really fuck with him.
Can I ask you a question?
What made you interview Murder Mook and Lord Lex though?
I mean, Murder Mook, we already had it lined up just because I'm a fan of him.
You're fan in like his bars?
As a battle rapper, yeah, I think the shit is crazy.
But then it was really good timing because it ended up being like him and Drake went viral for hanging out.
And they had a photo on Drake's Instagram at that moment.
So it worked really good because you got to tell the whole story about Drake.
I ain't gonna front you.
It's crazy because I be, I'm telling them every day.
They don't see what Meek Mill did to Drake, man.
What do you do?
Huh?
What did Meek Mill?
I mean, hold on.
I may say that wrong because I was thinking to keep it a bin with you.
I don't even know where Daisy Lane is.
But I was trying to say what Drake did the Meek Mill.
When Meek Mill did the Drake was get on some shit where he think he can pull his street card.
But that street shit don't mean.
I don't care.
How much money you made?
I don't care what you made.
It's about rap.
Rap is a sport.
So it's like who can rap better, who can pick the better, you know what I'm saying?
Who can do anything better, better metaphors get wittier or, you know what I'm saying?
Right.
You finished his career?
You blame Drake for Mick Mee's career not being at a high point right now?
No, no, I don't blame Drake.
I blame Meeke into this shit.
He should have just knew it as knowing hip hop.
But it kind of felt like Meeke's career was still doing real good while him and Drake were beefing
and then like it took a couple years for the Meek Mill backlash to hit.
Am I wrong?
Yeah.
That's how I'll see it.
No, you're right.
It's weird because now it feels like Meek Mill
it's like public enemy number one.
People just looking a shit on him no matter what.
Because he's trying to prove his gangster.
Everybody questioning it.
Yeah, I guess it might be a little bit of that.
What are your fans got to look forward to?
What are your big plans going forward?
Oh, crack dreams.
I got Cracked dreams coming.
Okay.
Cracked dreams is an album,
and I got American Territ's video coming.
That's going to be crazy.
Uh-huh.
Craig James, Craig, that's the best album ever.
I put everything into this, everything in my awe.
I need that.
You know, you're one rapper that I actually, like, interview,
and now I want to go listen to more right now.
I just want to be, like, refresh myself on the bars and stuff.
If you're going to tell me to go drive home
and listen to one project on Spotify or whatever,
which one would you say?
From American Terrace?
Okay.
Because you just hit me out on every part.
It hit me on the good side.
It hit the real me, here the bad me, here, slithing me,
hit everything.
I touched all bases on that song.
I was really pissed the fuck off that day.
Really mad at the world.
Everybody.
Everybody in my single life I was mad at, bro.
I killed this all day by myself, too.
I had money and drink with me.
Shout out of him.
Tell me a couple things about Henny.
Hennie tastes like.
Pop rocks when I was little.
Hennie is always there for me.
Hennie is on no jumper.
Hennie came from the hood to no fucking jumper,
the coolest podcast in the world.
I like how you really really.
looking at it like you're in love with it.
Because I am, bro.
It's like I was,
this shit really been the same shit.
It didn't change, bro.
It's the same shit, bro.
It gets me by.
It made me comfortable.
Make me feel that everything is all right.
I can talk to you comfortably.
I'm not like, oh, weird it out or fanned out.
I'm like, yo, this is regular.
This is my guy.
I'm a guy.
We're here.
Shout out.
Ain't nobody cool but us, bro.
Huh?
Fuck what they talk about
You know what song that name is from?
Well, ain't anybody cool?
Yeah.
Who did that?
It better be fatal to intent.
I swear to God.
Yeah, no.
Who is it?
Project Pat.
Oh, he from the hood.
Fuck that.
Ain't nobody cool.
Project Pat, bro.
What?
Come on, man.
He got the intro to my new album
that's getting fucking
shout out the TK.
Shout out TK.
This shit getting
Atlantic Records.
I'm the real Gucci
when he signed a Big Cat Records.
Big Cat Records was in Lainty.
I'm...
Big Cat Records.
He was shitting on Big Cat, man.
Take my shirt off and all the whole stop breathing.
Now people think that's a playwright Carrieric.
You ever listen to a whole lot of red?
Hell not, bro.
What the fuck, bro?
Come on, I'm never going to listen to that dude, boy.
I listen to little Uzi for I listen to him.
You fuck with Uzi?
Hell, y' y'all fuck Uzi, bro.
Uzi, bro.
Uzi, bro.
Uzi, bro.
And he's going to punch some shit out.
And he'd be blacking.
And he took his time for creativity,
and he dropped mad music, bro.
These niggas be going in the booth
taking three hours to rap.
Yeah.
They'd be like, hold on, let me think.
Let me think.
I love what you about to say.
Who's he one of the only people
that could, like, be accused
to sticking a gun in a girl's face
and punching on her and all this shit.
Even the woke girls on Twitter,
I didn't see any of them talking shit about it.
That's because he, like, fucking two feet.
He's like 42 dog size.
They don't consider him a man.
That's fucked up.
He put that diamond in his forehead.
I'm like,
He was going through it that day.
He took it out?
He took the diamond up?
Yeah, yeah, thank you.
Yeah, I know he was going through it that day.
He should get infected or something.
That's to me, like, I could never, like, have, like, big hoop.
They used to have the gauges in people's ears when I was coming up.
And I would be like, bro, I can't do that because I'm going to have to fight somebody.
They're going to rip that shit out.
That's the same thing with the diamond.
Like, you can't get into a scrap if you got a diamond in your forehead because they hit that shit one time.
It fucking cracks your whole skull.
What made you grow to hair?
I don't know.
People told me I look too mean as a son.
Skinhead. They say you look too mean.
Yeah.
It called you a skinhead?
Everybody.
Damn.
I might go back though.
You're the coolest podcast in the world, bro.
And I can't be a skinhead?
That's crazy.
I can't interview all these rappers and be a skinhead?
God damn.
Bro, the skinheads be the coolest people ever, bro.
They don't be like them stuck up dick in the booty-ass niggas, bro.
They be all that?
I don't know.
I'm going to be real.
I've never been friends.
I've read books about them.
I watched documentary.
I've never known a skinhead.
All right, boom, man.
Listen, here, if I was in jail and I got the, the white guy.
uppity person that just faked on his taxes and got locked up.
And then I'm with the skinhead.
I'm with the skinhead, bro.
He got the coat.
We can relate.
He don't dare what I did.
We're going through the same shit.
He probably needs old child support.
Probably, yeah.
Most likely.
I got some cool suspenders and shit.
Word.
And we're friends.
And we're just sharing now.
We eat together and fuck the other.
We're going to beat him up now.
Yeah, yeah.
Fuck the more white people.
Word.
He just goes straight.
He said that.
Go to the straight, most racist white person.
That's my man.
All right.
You ever been in jail, bro?
Hell no.
Damn, that's crazy.
One night.
24 hours.
A bar, bro.
A bar?
I know, right?
I got to bring a security guard with me if I go to a lot.
It's crazy how many people love you, man.
In the world, man, it's crazy, boy.
People want to kill me, too.
When I came home from prison, bro, I found, like, I just started really, like getting
into, like, I tapped.
Especially when you tapped in with me, bro, everybody went crazy.
For real?
Everybody went crazy.
They act like I was rich, bro.
Like, I signed a deal.
Wow.
And I'm, like, tapping into your shit, bro.
And then I see the hate, they hate, they hate, they hate,
to hate. But you know what? This is the coolest
podcast in the world. I'm throwing falls down.
You got hating. Hey. Huh?
Well, we're going 22 million. We're about doing
22 million, bro. King in New York.
R. X-Kiler. Alex Koppi.
Alex Killer. Alex Killer, bro. With
two feet. None of them niggins can fight better than me
and squabble better than me to do anything. This is how I made it
this far. They all went through complications.
My street record is clean. My rap
record is clean. I never told. I never did
anything. Hell yeah. I mean, even if they
ain't heard your music, I feel like they're going to really
like fuck with you as a person regardless
and then they can go
they can go see the music after that.
They better tap, man.
They ain't got no choice.
I'm about to squab with Blueface.
They better let him know.
I'm about to squab with him
because I ain't going to front.
TK.
going to pick the money up.
I'm going to hit Blueface line.
Be like, yo, I got a homie want to fight you.
TK just text me.
I just got the text.
He said you got to pick the money up.
How much you said it is?
I mean, I think you're getting a million
to fight this TikTok here.
A million?
All that shit.
PPP, EV, pandemic.
We about to put all that up.
It's a band down.
I'm a whoop his ass.
Osk-o-so-o-k-o-k-o-k-o-h.
Hit him with a head button, all.
I swear the God, would get physical, bro.
For that money, I'm going to put my hood on, bro.
They love it.
I swear the guy, coolest podcast in the world.
Coolest podcast in the world.
R.X.K. Defu.
We've got more on the way, too.
When Poppy comes back, we'll do another one, all right?
I swear to God, he's going to get super crazy.
He can't stop talking.
Maybe all get drunk, too.
No jumper.
Coolest podcast of the world.
The Patreon producers are on the fucking screen.
Patreon.com slash no jumper.
we on YouTube. We all add. I'm going to actually make this outro makes sense at one point.
Like, comment, subscribe. Nojummer.com. You want to support. Shout out to Henny.
Shout out to Backwoods. Mm-hmm. All that. All that. Shout out.
Shout out. This is Adam 22 and this is nephew 31 grams.
That way. Eat these edibles. You got to love them. You got to love them. Eat the shit out of these.
Don't be smart. All this shit. Good guys. That shit will get you back to Rochester.
Mm-hmm.
Dang.
