No Jumper - The Scorey Interview: Signing to Polo G, Quitting Percs, Syracuse & More

Episode Date: July 7, 2022

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No Jumper. Coolest podcast on the world. Today, we got a very talented young artist by the name of Scori in the building. Oh, yeah. Thanks for having. For show. How are you feeling, man? I'm feeling good. Yeah? You said you were just in Atlanta? Yeah, I just got back out here. Right. It's type hot on here. No, real.

Too hot? What's it like? You're from fucking Syracuse, dude. I am from the East Coast. I have been to Syracuse, so I know where you are from, which is probably not something that the vast majority of people you meet these days can say hell no it's cold as fuck over here where you from i'm from new hampshire oh okay yeah yeah it's cold in syracuse how do you well not during the summer it gets hot as shit right yeah it got hot in the summer though but in the winter it gets a real cold though it gets a lot of snow like yeah you still got to go to school they still don't don't shut school down really you didn't get school days or uh snow days

Hell no. I'd be like... What? For the snow, you don't got no snow day. Dude, I lived for snow days. Snow days are the best things ever waiting up and just like turning on the TV and waiting for them to announce that you didn't have to go to school. That was the best shit ever. It just snowed so much that we got snow days.

We never go to school. Really? What the fuck? That's out of control. So how do you describe it to people who obviously don't know anything about it when people ask you what secret kids is like? It's just like a small time. Everybody knows each other. It's like, John.

It's like, yeah, like, everybody, you probably, you probably got a cousin from every side of town. It's, like, just small. Is it grimy at all, or is it kind of, like, a nicer city? Yeah, it's, like, pretty, like, on every side, but the north side is probably grimy. Right. Like, the north side, that's where all the white people are.

Oh, yeah. A nice part of town. So would you ever go up there? You got any reason to politics with these white people? Yeah, a lot of people live. live up there like they move up there okay they live in the hood they end up moving on right and so okay what was your childhood like where your parents like uh it was cool my parents is cool on my i used to um i live with my mom when my dad to come i'll go to

my dad house like every weekend they um split up when i was younger okay but yeah and they both live in syracuse no um when we is when we as young we had moved to uh dc And I had, um, I went up to Syracuse like every other weekend with my grandma. That's kind of a far fucking journey right there. Yeah, it's like six hours. Oh, six hours? Okay. Not that bad.

Um, all right. So you grew up sort of going back and forth. Which side of your family did you gravitate towards? Who was the cooler side? My mom's side. I didn't really know my dad's side of the family like that. Okay. But yeah, I was my mom's side.

That's my mom's side. That's where I stayed at my grandma's house. And what kind of kid were you? I was a good kid. I grew up good. I went to school. I was good at school. I used to cut up in school, though.

I was like a class clown. Really? Yeah. My teacher in fourth grade, she gave me an, she used to give me like 15 minutes at the end of class. Every day to have a little comedy. so because I was a class clown. Yeah.

And like, yeah, that's like fourth grade. Right. And so were you like, would you describe yourself as popular? Or like, why do you feel like you had that impulse to want to entertain people like that? I don't know. That's only, it was only in like elementary school though. When I grew up, like high school, I was quiet. I ain't really fucking knickers like that.

Really? Yeah. What changed as you got older? I don't know. Yeah, I don't really know. I was quiet when I was young, no, but it's just, like, in school, I was just a class clown. I don't know.

Do you do good in school? Like, were you getting good grades? Yeah, for the most part, but, no, probably not in high school, though. When I was younger, I got good grades. Then probably after eighth grade, that's when I started getting bad grade. But I got, I would always get like a, I would always get an A in English or like spelling or something like that. Anything I got to do with like words, I'll get an A in it. But like math and stuff like that, history, I feel it.

Yeah, I was the same way. Math just did not stick to the inside of my brain at all. Hell, no, I hate math. I still, to this day, I can't do no math. Right. Rappers always have bars about how they, like, were good at math because they, like, sold drugs. and like count money and stuff I always felt kind of weird about that

like nah bro I was just bad at math even with the selling drug shit it was complicated even like calling money like people say they're good at math because they be calling money

but even calling money I'm not good at darn either I mean that's just adding you know it's just counting it's pretty much the most basic form of math oh yeah but I still like I'm not good at keep a track of money

you save money nothing really I got a money counter or yeah I don't really usually have much money but when I do I can use the money counter yeah I was thinking about getting one but I don't be having too much cash on yeah I honestly I had to use it once and then I got rid of the money and now I don't have any more cash it's kind of weird because it's like sometimes I need cash and I'm like damn I got to take it out of the bank all the fuck did I count it and deposit it oh yeah yeah but uh so okay you were getting fucked up in high school or what because you had like some pretty crazy

drug experiences I seen. Yeah, no, I was, I didn't start, like, I was smoking weed in high school. I ain't started really doing, like, pills until I got older, like, out of high school. Okay, how old are you now? 23. 23. All right, so that was after. You were smoking weed in high school? Was that very frowned upon in Syracuse at the time, or was everybody doing it? Nah, I ain't got a lot. I started smoking weed before everybody. Like, all of my friends, I was probably like 12 when I started smoking weed

I was smoking weed with my cousin that because all my big cousins like around me with smoking weed so I'm like they getting high around me like we in my grandma crib and they all getting high around me I'm like damn I want to feel with that I feel like they are eyes low red

like I'm like damn I don't want to feel with that so I'm like 12 years old I'm trying to get high right so I just start I start pinching my cousin weed like a little bit at a time then I end up like learning how to roll up so I just started smoking out like 12 years old you smoking swishers or what I was smoking um raw papers oh okay I learned I start how trying to learn how to roll them but I really couldn't roll them like that I was fucking them up

right and wasting weed and shit but then I had like my cousin had rolled it up for me she had taught me how I roll up then boom I feel like you're not supposed to roll a blunt for a 12 year old No, she was like two. It's like 12, too. She was like 11. Oh, really? All right. But that's like buying beer for like an underage kid. Like even if the kid offers you money. I mean, I've never had that happen to me, but I always have like heard about it. Like kids come up to you outside the 7-Eleven.

Like, yo, can you buy me some beer? Yeah, that I used to be. That never happened to me. Beer, not beer, but rap. I used to be me to. I used to call the niggas. I used to call the niggins. Like, yeah, you could buy me a Z-guy. Yeah.

That's, that's some dicey behavior, man. they could get you. Actually, I got asked to be employed at one point in my life when I was in high school of going into like liquor stores and trying to buy cigarettes without an ID. And I never ended up doing it, but I got offered this at a certain point. With like high school kids? Yeah, because I was like 16 or 17 and they were like, are you down to do this? You'll get paid to just go try to buy cigarettes. I'm like, what the fuck? This feels like snitching. Even at a young age, I thought that seemed kind of fucked up. But they ain't like ID you because I thought she needed to be like, 18 of why yeah but that's the point like they would I would try to buy cigarettes without an

ID so like basically prove that they were down to sell to an underage kid oh so then they would find them like I don't know 10 grand or some shit that will probably fuck their whole year up oh they were trying how you be a narc yeah basically but I never ended up doing it it would be a great story and and probably a lot of people would consider me a snitch if that was actually out there on the public record that's a whole thing I'll get a 6-9 rep real quick So were you always fascinated by music or what were you listening to? Yeah, I grew up listening like my first favorite rapper was probably 50 cent. Then I grew up, when I grew up, I started listening to Lil Wayne and Drake.

That was my favorite rappers. Then when I got to high school, I started listening to G. Herbo, Strictly G. Herbal. Okay. I knew every G. Herbal song, whatever word. You weren't listening to D. and all these other drill rappers, you were just fucking with Herbo? Yeah, no, not really. I used to listen to LA Capone a little bit,

and round of number nine, but yeah, I used to mostly listen to G. Herbo, though. Okay. Were you going down to New York City and stuff? Like, is the average kid in Syracuse ever visit? Yeah, I visited. I used to have family, I still got family. I got family in New York City. So I probably visit, like, once in the Blue Moon.

the blue moon, though. Not too often, though. Right. But do you relate to New York? Like, do you feel like a rapper from New York? It's a whole different. That's like a totally different place to you. Yeah, like it would seem like a whole different state. Right. They, some of our lingo are the same, but

they accent different. We talk different. Right. Act different. It's like a whole different. But there's some overlap, don't you feel? Yeah. There's been times when I was in like Rochester or Buffalo where I was looking at people and I'm like, they're like a weird variation of a guy from Brooklyn.

Yeah, like they be trying to sound like them, I think, I felt like to me. Right. I mean, it's right over there. That's like their main cultural influence, more or less, right? Yeah, but Syracuse, we don't be on that type of time, though. Like, we don't sound like them, try to act like them. I mean,

some people do, though, but... Are there any lit rappers from Syracuse besides you? Has anybody really got their shit off the ground? Um, shit, not really, like... But Tusi, they said Tusi, Tusi from Syracuse. Is he originally? Fuck.

I interviewed him. I forgot that. He grew up in Syracuse. He moved when he was like 12, 13. Oh, okay. Yeah. Damn. So you feel like you got it on your back?

Is that, like, an important thing for you to sort of put that on? Hell, yeah. Like, because, yeah, I'm basically like the only, the first rapper that I really got it, got my rap career flowing, like, out of Syracuse, like coming straight out of Syracuse. so I felt like I really like put on for the city though but he put on too like he shout Syracuse out nobody never heard of it right heard of it before though but yeah I was just coming straight out of Syracuse though so did you uh do you graduate high school mm-hmm okay you graduated with good grades or was it a struggle

no I think I graduated like 2.3 okay okay um yeah saying I probably like my college like the counselor like the counselor was trying to tell me I couldn't get to college. I was probably going to have to, like, go to a community college or something. Okay. Yeah. That was the plan, though? You end up going to college? Yeah, I went, like, a little community college. And then I had dropped out after, like, two years. I got kicked out with selling weed to the... Selling weed. How the fuck they catch you? Because my... I was beast, and I ain't going to lie. Like, my whole... I had it in, like, a zip-lock bag. Like, they ain't had it. Just before they, they had the little airtight... Airtight.

bags. So my shit was reeking up the whole hallway. And the RA, like RA came to my door. He didn't even come to my door. He just called the police. Police came to my door. It's easy to forget as a kid, because, like, my backpack

on the plane the other day, it had just this in it. And I fucking pull it out of the thing, and I'm just like, oh, fuck, like, just hits me in the face, and I'm like, man, that is crazy because, you know, I'd be around weed so much that I forget how much it fucking stinks. Yeah, especially if you got some wild, too. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. But if you're in a situation like that where you could get caught up over it. But, I mean, New York, especially back in the day, now it's like legalized and everything. Back in the day, I seen dudes selling weed who are, you know, really using vacuum sealers just for their stash just to go hop on the train or whatever, which in California, that's completely foreign because nobody fucking cares. Yeah, I wish I had that back then. I probably wouldn't have gotten in trouble because I was doing my little thing for a minute.

But then that shit happened. I had probably like two ounces in there. So it was over like the felony weight. But they didn't encounter that. I was on probation for like two, three years. That was it though? No jail time, just probation? Mm-mm.

Just probation. And so were you making music all along during this time period or what? No, I started making music, like after I got kicked out of college. So probably like a year after I got kicked out of college, I started making music. I was like, I ain't playing basketball. I ain't in school no more, so I'm just about to start rapping. And I started rapping probably like a couple, like six, probably like six months. I thought I started rapping.

That's when Polo had found my music. So you were just putting freestyles out there? or what what did you actually have out there? Yeah, I started, like when I first started, I was just putting out freestyles, like sitting outside on my block, like, just having somebody record me going a little freestyle, then I'll get, I'll get, like, a lot of shares, like, one of my freestyle,

I got like 600, 700 shares on Facebook. Right, yeah, so. I love a rapper who comes up on Facebook. Yeah, it's like you know it's really from the dirt. That's what, because people were saying I got to go on Instagram on my shit with a little T, I, I was telling him, like, little TJ came up on Facebook. I come up on Facebook, too.

A lot of people end up telling me that. They blow up on, like, a local level off there. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So, yeah, I was doing my little freestries, and I'm like, no, I got to do a music video. So I did one music video, dropped it. It did okay. Now, I did my second music video, and I dropped it, and that's the one that Apollo,

I seen it, he posted on his story, so it got, like, $100,000, like, a month, probably. And so then he taps in with you. Who are you tapping in with him? Um. He was just shouting it out on some random shit. He wasn't trying to sign you, right? No, he was trying to sign me from the beginning. Oh, okay.

He hit me at first, but I wasn't really trying to sign. Like, I didn't really want, people telling me, like, don't sign no rapper. That's kind of cool that he did that because a lot of times, if a rapper's trying to sign somebody, they're not going to shout them out. Because if you shout him out, you're basically just inviting other people to try to sign them. Yeah, but he told me, he told me, like, even if you don't sign to me, I'm going to still fuck with you. still fuck with you. I'm still support your music, Bob, because I

genuinely fuck with you. So that's when I knew like he was a genuine nigga. Right. So were you already a fan of his or were you already listening to him at that point? Yeah, I was definitely probably, I was listening to him for like two years before he saw him. Right. Yeah, because I mean

he kind of pioneered like a certain type of flow that is becoming more and more common where you sort of add this like melody to each bar. And I feel like it's like very influential but he's there's not that many people that are doing a good job of it so it's interesting he's signing you somebody who kind of is doing something that's influenced by him you know yeah that's why he said that's why he said like part of the reason why he signed me too because um

my son was similar to his right yeah like i i look when i um when i thought about doing that because i used to like rap rap at first like i wasn't really singing at first but when i thought about doing that I was thinking about like him, basically like him and Drake, like how Drake got like a little melodic flow to. Right. So, yeah, that's what really made me start singing. Right. But I mean, he's, Polo switches it to like rapper mode, like kind of leaves the melody behind a lot too. And that PGF Nuck remakes, that's like him reminding everybody.

Like, I don't got to be singing on every song, right? Yeah, that's right? So do you flip that switch still at certain points and just be like I'm just going to wrap my ass off? Yeah, I got a couple of songs like that. I don't really do it unless I'm on a song with somebody to, like, somebody that just rap, like, PGF Nuck. Yeah, you can't be singing on a song with him. That's going to be a different kind of song.

I mean, at the end of the day, you got to do the right thing for the beat, you know? It's possible, though, because I don't know if you ever heard King Vaughn a Polo song. Polo was singing, King Vaughn rapping. You could do some stuff like that. Yeah, no, it's all about how you finesse it, you know? It's all about how natural you feel on the track. Like if it feels force, it's never going to work, you know? Yeah.

Okay, but so do you feel like you need to be more inventive with your flow? Or like, do you spend a lot of time trying to, like, be more creative and shit to kind of separate yourself from Polo? Because, I mean, he's so well known for that flow that it feels like that's got to be kind of some pressure to make yourself sound different and everything. Yeah, I got to. I'll be trying all the time. Like, that's where I came up with the whole little rock beat thing. Like, because I'd be trying to find ways to, like, separate myself and that. Because if you look at my YouTube comments, just scroll down my YouTube comments, that's all they say.

Really? I thought this is a Bola D. Right. But, I mean, shit, he's so popular that it feels like your shit is really doing good off of. Like, how much of your fan base you feel like came from him versus, like, people that would fuck with you, independent of that? I looked it up on Instagram. It showed me on Instagram one time. I think it was, like, 65%.

Really? My followers follow him to Injur. Yeah, like a lot, like more than half. Right. So, okay, when you signed to him, though, how does this work? Do you start being around him a lot more?

You start being in the studio with him, or how does that take place? Hell no, like, when I first signed him, I was still in the trenches every day. Like, people are like, how you sign up with him and you're in trenches with me every day? Like, people would actually say that. Right.

But yeah, like, I didn't start on when I dropped my, like before I dropped my first like breakouts on, that song moves. That's when I flew out to Cali with him and I started getting in the studio with him. But ever since then, I got signed to like Columbia. Then I moved out here and that's when I was in the studio and I'm like all the time. So you officially signed to him and then he kind of takes. you to Columbia and they give you a deal as well yeah he signed me to a management like he signed me first to a management deal so he was basically my manager just shopping me around the labels and stuff okay so I could have

signed like capital I didn't have to sign the his record label I could have signed like a couple couple of labels was hitting me up like a lot of labels actually like damn there all of them was hitting me up but I I felt like he was so genuine to me like I didn't want to sign with nobody else because these labels really be shady. So I just told the sign to him. Interesting. And so then what happens when you signed to Capitol or whatever?

Or did you say Columbia? Columbia. You signed to them and then how does that change shit? They start putting you in studio sessions or they start like really taking interest in making your music better or what? Yeah, like my A&R, my first A&R, Chelsea, she put me in the studio.

Like, this the first time I ever been in the studio where to produce. I didn't know rappers do that. like being a studio with a producer and they make the beat, why are you in the studio with them? Right. I never knew that. So I just used to get a beat of YouTube,

write to it, and go to the studio. I record like two songs and be out. But she started getting me in the studio with actual producers. And I noticed that helped me a lot. Right, because I mean, they have so much experience, right? Do you like working with producers who are going to be extra involved and really try to, you know, give you instruction or like tell you what they think you should do? with songs yeah like like i was in a stew like i go to you know internet money yeah i go to their

stoo a lot and um i work with nick mirror in there and one time like taz like you know taj tay taylor yeah he had came in there he was listening to all my songs that i was doing and he was telling me like yeah these like these songs are good but you got they like some of them like sound the same you got to switch it up so nobody really ever told me something like that so i'm thinking like y'all probably do i switch switch this shit up like yeah taz will definitely tell you that you need to work on some shit for sure i mean that's a tricky scenario as a i feel like he got the track record to tell somebody that and for them to actually listen yeah because he got real hits under his bone yeah you gotta listen i'll be real with you yeah if i went in the studio with you and you were doing something

and i didn't really feel it or whatever i'll probably just not say anything because i'm just like i don't want to be fucking telling anybody what to do that takes a a certain level of Trust. Yeah. But yeah, like he said, he got that. He took out of love with him. Definitely. So you feel like are you waiting to like, because you said you had a bunch of songs with Polo, right?

Like are you, you guys haven't, you haven't dropped a video with him, right? Uh-uh. What is the hold up on that? Is that part of the plan? He really be like picky with shit though. Like, he, um, it gotta be like a part, like he gotta feel like it's a real hit for him to drop it. So it'll come, though. Getting the stew and then just do a couple more songs.

I said it come. Right, definitely. So, like, how much time do you guys spend together at this point? How often do you go link up with him? Like, if he's on tour, are you typically going on tour with him at this point? Yeah, like his last tour, I was just on tour with him. Like, yeah, if he's in L.A., he'd be moving around a lot. But if he in L.A., we're in L.A., I'm in L.A.,

so we're going to link up getting him the stew and stuff. We just getting the studio and he'll be making songs. You just be chilling. Right. Yeah, yeah. That's what so. Okay, so you stopped getting fucked up at some point because you had a bad pill reaction or what happened?

Yeah, I stopped for a little bit when I start. I started popping again. But I reasonably just stopped though. I'm like a month clean out of. Really? Yeah. Well, you got a thing for the perks? Yeah, I fuck with Perkins.

More than the lean? Yeah, I don't like lean. Lean over getting me high. this being me sleep though yeah like I never felt like like people say they be high off leon I never felt like I was high I just felt sleepy yeah I felt high but I also felt more sleepy yeah I did be wanting to go to sleep right but and it's like I can never be addicted to lean I feel like because it's too expensive yeah I'll fuck myself uh go broke and it's so fucking hard to get it you didn't you have to have like an employee as a rapper whose whole job is to get you

Actually, I know rappers who definitely have had that. Yeah, yeah, me too. It's a weird, weird job title. But, okay, so what do you like about the perks though? It's like... That keeps you coming back. Because I got, I feel like I got anxiety, like, social anxiety. When I, if I pop a perk, I'll be wanting to just talk all day.

If I don't pop no perk, I don't be feeling like talking to nobody. Really? Yeah. It helps with the music, though? It makes you... Yeah, like- More open? Yeah, I think I kind of made it like that, though, because I made good music before I started popping a perks,

but I made it like I tried to connect it to the music, though. I got to go to the studio. Every time I go to the studio, I got a pop a perk where I felt I had to. Right. It kind of becomes like a crutch at a certain point. Yeah. When you were off it, were you having a hard time being creative in the studio? I ain't go to the studio in a long time.

without uh just sober but I don't I feel like I could make some I feel like I could still make good music though you still be recording in the crib as well no I ain't uh never do that yet I want to though yeah I want to I want to I want to I want to try to um because I see like like Tuesday he'd be making all those like all them songs all those songs I got millions of views he'd be making them since in the in the in the crib yeah so I want to try to do that like I remember with juice back in the day He used to be in the studio. Well, at first, when I would be hanging out with him, he'd be in the studio. And then at some point, somebody just convinced him to set up and start recording in the crib.

And I never saw him in the studio again after that. He was just like all, unless he was on tour or whatever. But for the most part, he would just be in the living room, super comfortable wearing his fucking pajamas, just recording and making crazy-ass songs in the living room. Yeah, I wish I could have met Jews. Yeah. He was a big influence as well? Yeah.

Yeah, I fuck with Jews. you were fucking with X? Like my best friend My best friend I had passed away That was his thing Like he used to love

X but Oh you're talking about Exxxed Yeah yeah Who you're talking about I'll talk about XC I thought Oh

I thought he was talking about X No I'm just Foggin' Drop that in there No I was talking about X No

Yeah I fuck with X too Okay I'm fucking X too Right Yeah Who do you feel Like are the

The goats at this point in music in terms of like people that your generation are really fucking with like hip hop yeah um that's hard if it like jew's definitely one of them though right and uh would x be like hip hop yeah you gotta give it to him just because he went he went outside of it he made it bigger than rap yeah so x too them too out there and like right now but like currently I felt like a little dirt. Mm. Baby.

Baby. Polo. And Rod Wave. I feel, I like. That's why you do that song about him? Yeah. Like, because I, because the song is Girl Love Rod Wave, because I really never, like, rarely meet a girl that don't love Rod Wave's music.

Really? That says a lot about the girls you'd be hanging out with. Maybe the best. I don't think I know a lot of girls listening to Rod Wave, but they should, honestly. They could probably level up their life. Yeah, like, you make you think about a lot of shit. My girl will be listening to Dolly Parton.

A Dolly Parton. Yeah, that's a whole different thing. But, okay, so yourself, though, what do you listen to these days? You listen to, like, real street rap type shit? Or do you listen to the more melodic stuff? I'd be listening to a mixture of both, like, listen to Raleigh. Polo on street the street rap tip we listen to like Jacksonville ninkers like Jada Breezy Kay Shorty all the niggins but yeah like Poochite I listen to pushiksy

free pushikesty man that was all I was listening to for a minute there then he gets locked up kind of left me high and dry and to start branching out more yeah that's a fact he was going crazy for like what was that like 2020 yeah would you do the double XL cover? Yeah, they just hit me up for it. I didn't make it though. Really? So what? You did an interview for the new cover and you weren't selected for this one? Yeah, I did an interview for the 10th spot and I had to do votes for the 10th spot and stuff, but I think they picked baby Chon. Okay. Yeah. Shout out the baby Chon. Oh, you go crazy. Shout out the Baby Tron. Is that a goal though in the long run? Would you feel like that kind of solidified your career in a way? Yeah, that's a, like, dream. I got a, I used to write, like, I got a thing in my phone from like 2018, a double Xl freestyle. Right.

I used to write double XL freestyle, just the dream of being on a double Xcel. That's dope. Yeah, because, I mean, a lot of people now that talk about it, like, you know, like they might be too big for it or like, you know, maybe it's not as cool as it used to be. I don't know. No, I'm going to do a double X LXL, I don't care how big I get. I'm doing double XL. Right. That's what I own.

That's what I just said about, like, tour. Like, we was on a tour and a couple of people, like, people talking about it was like too much, like, too much traveling. They were tired and shit like that. I don't get a fuck. I don't get a fuck. How hard to a tour get. I'm going to be on tour as I always dreamed about being on tour. Right.

I went to a rap show. I went to a no-cap show, and I had my boy with me, Flacco, who really hasn't been to that many rap. I think it was his first rap show. And he's seeing the opening artist and they're performing and nobody knows their fucking songs. So it's like, you know, it's kind of dead. And he's like, oh yeah, this shit is really whack. And I'm like, yeah, but bro, that's like a rap ass to go through that. Like even the best rappers, the fucking Travis Scots and the polos or whatever,

they played dead ass fucking shows in the beginning to get their shit out there. And, you know, it's easy for your performance to look great when everybody's cheering and singing along back in your face. But if you really want to make it, I mean, kids these days are kind of lucky because they don't really have to necessarily go out and perform on these shows. They can just, yeah, get cracking online

and then their first show is like a sold-out 2,000-person show where people are screaming along with them. But, I mean, if you really want to make it, you should be putting yourself in those situations and trying to pick up fans one by one, you know? Hell yeah, like rappers are on, like in my city, like growing up, They used to pass all like CDs and stuff like that. Yep.

And go to like, go to little shows and shit. Like I done, I did the little shows in my city before I got, before I really like blew up type of shit where anybody really knew my music. Those are the good old days when I hear people talking about selling CDs out the trunk. Coming home with like a thousand bucks at the end of the day from selling CDs and that's just their hustle. I'm like, damn, the fucking game has changed. And now you have to just be like, yo, go to my Apple music. Hell, yeah, ain't nobody listening

No damn And if you listen to my music All fucking year Then you will have made me Like a dollar Thank you But okay So are you plotting on an album

Or where's your head at right now Yeah, I got But I just got so many songs I want to drop an album But I got so many like old songs That my fans still be asking for That I got probably I probably got to drop like a mixtape

With all my old shit on it Before I dropped a new album But I got a lot of new crack, though, like, real-life fire shit. That's dope. Yeah, I mean, you feel like that's going to be the thing that puts you over the top and get you on the double-xel cover or whatever? Yeah, I think that was probably one of the things that hurt me. And shit like that, like, I ain't dropped no album yet.

Got no project. Right. I've been assigned probably like a year. It's still changed. For sure. Okay. You got anybody you want to thank or anything that we need to know? about in terms of new shit coming out?

Yeah, I want to thank all my boys that internet have money for sure for fucking with me like on the beat side producing my shit. My new album, a lot of new crack. I want to think Polo definitely Polo, whole Capulah family, ODA family, Columbia Records. That's real. And shout out to Syracuse. Shout out to Syracuse.

We're doing it. Syracuse. They want to five. That way. I appreciate you, man. Thanks for coming on. You've got big things to come. Yeah, thank you for having.

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