No Jumper - The Sean Kingston Interview: Blowing Up off Myspace & Dropping His First Album in 8 Years

Episode Date: May 24, 2021

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No Jumper, coolest podcast on the world. And today I have an iconic interview going down with someone that everybody knows, everybody loves. I might be setting it up a little bit, but Sean Kingston is in the building. How you feeling, man? I feel good, man. Dude, you haven't done an interview in a long time, huh? Yeah. That's crazy because, like, you're just mega famous.

And I'm so used to, like, big artists just having a million fucking interviews. And it's always like, oh, God, like, I got to pick which one I want to watch before I do the interview or whatever. but I searched up Sean Kingston interview on YouTube it's kind of light. You know, breakfast club years ago but I feel like

has that been an intentional decision that you prefer to stay a little mysterious? Yeah, yep. Stay exclusive. To be honest with you, I ain't been really like, I just been really focused

on the album, recorded music. I've been writing a lot of music behind the scenes for a lot of big artists. So I mean, that's where most of my time, you know,

running my label time is money and all that type of stuff. So when it came to the interview side, I didn't really want to do much of it because I didn't feel like it was time. But now I'm about to drop my, you know, I'm dropping my album is done. We're starting to roll out single after single. So I feel like, but I've been a, I've been a fan of the show. I definitely. Yeah, you tapped in a while ago. I was wondering if you were ever actually going to

make this happen. I was fucking hype that it actually is, dude. I love Adam, man. You got a good, you got a good personality, good energy. So it's a blessing to be right here, man. I appreciate that, man. Yeah, when I was looking through your Instagram, I was definitely like, we haven't seen a ton of Sean Kingston in recent years, but at the same time, time looking at your Instagram, I'm like, this dude is definitely not living the life of someone who hasn't put out an album in eight years. The finances seem like they're just fine. I mean, you know, for me, like I said, I basically choose to, see, that's what I'm glad that I'm, that's a good question. I basically choose to took a break, you know? I was in, I was in some

bad contracts. See, a lot of, this is a lot of times that people don't really, they don't really hear this side. You know what I'm saying? Like, people just try to cover this side up, but in our reality, the downside of the music industry is like, it's political, you know, and I had some bad deals that I had signed when I was younger, so I could really put out, I could, but it wasn't, I wasn't excited, I wasn't happy in the situation that I was in. So I told my manager, which is Juan G, like, yo, I met him years and years ago, he was managing Tiger, I ran into him backstage at Rollin Loud, and I was like, yo, I want you to manage me. And he was like, yeah, for sure, man, gave me his number, and this guy right here changed my life.

Like, I guess you could tell him more, like, how the situation is, you got me out of all them bad deals. How do you go about something like that with an artist's big as him? Like, the people who have them in bad deals probably don't want to let them out of them, right? Yeah, what was interesting is, Adam, when I first started, like, Sean, met Sean 10 years ago. So, me and Sean... Is there music playing somewhere? I think. My bad job.

Fucking boombox over here. It's my phone. Got you, gotcha, all good. Now, the whole thing is, you know, I met Sean. 10 years ago just as a young town to get young man doing the music so I was watching him we weren't working together then and you know I looked at him big in his bigger in life with the music but I never knew what was going on you know in the intricate part of his life I just knew that there was this young cat who got a

deal at 17 years old and took over the world music so later on we end up at each other 10 years later and roll aloud and Sean approached me kind of talked to me a little bit about what was going on in his business. And I was amazed because when he'd asked me to work with him, I was like, shocked, because you look at this bigger-than-life talent, this bigger-than-life songwriter, artist, performer. He said, yo, you got to work with me. So we got together maybe about three weeks, four weeks after that, and I started kind of hearing the story about what was going on. And I realized that not only like how political the industry was, because I come from

the industry, but he kind of opened up and said, yo, these are the kind of deals, these things are going on in my life. And I said, okay, we've got to clean this up. And Sean gave me the opportunity to come in because a lot of artists you know in hip hop and pop sometimes the ego people don't really let you in and then you got a lot of gatekeepers but it was really easy to work with mama kingston and work with sean kinks and i got in there and just started figuring it out the man when i say adam the dude like the dude came in and just like he i think he's a secret magician because he came in and when i say he came in and clean shopped up like the man came in the first two months he got me out of my deal the first two months managing me got me out of my deal

and you know the third month he brought me me a $750,000 check for a hookah company from, yeah, from the Middle East. Wow. He just kept bringing different, different, different things to me. So the guys, you know what I'm saying? He's definitely, you know, we meet some managers, you know, they, a lot of them talk a lot of stuff, but they can't really do, you know what I'm saying? Like, this guy's right here is all action, man.

Like, he changed my life. But one thing is, too, it was, is he, Sean gave me the autonomy to come in with the right attorney. So I brought John Brankan and Simron Singh and Devon. And he let the attorneys come in and work with me. So when we got the legal side involved, we're able to just go to work. And, you know, I got a lot of great relationships because it's all business at the end of the day, right? And so you look at agreements that were signed in the past.

And then you say, wait a minute, this is not too favorable for the talent, the artist. And you go in there and work it out. So Sean really gave me that autonomy to do that. And I did that. So now he's free and clear from all those other obligations. Free and clear, you feel me? Free and clear. Free and clear.

Realized. Yeah. But the right way. and control of all his masters, control of all his publishing, all his ownership. Shout out to Empire. I just did a huge deal with Empire.

Really? I did not expect you to say that. That's crazy. Damn, because we have so many, like, smaller artists who come in here and tell us that they fucking love Empire, but that's big. I mean, you know, I own my masters.

I own my publishing. You know, Gazi, shout out to Gazi. Shout out to Nima, man. Tina Davis. Like, they're a team. They let you be, you know, you have your creative control, but you also own your majority of your music.

And I feel like that's the part of the business where a lot of artists should be coming in right now is the independent way. Yeah. Yeah, you might need more of a money for marketing, but I feel like when it's all said and done, you're going to own more of your music. And that's the best, that's the blessing side of it. And one thing I got to say about Ghazi, Adam,

Gazi's such an entrepreneur, and Gazi is a Bay legend, but he comes from the tech world. So we understand when artists talk about the major labels, Well, who controls distribution today, the DSPs, Apple and Spotify and YouTube. So it's really a DSP game, right? So when you got the hits and your hit songwriter like Sean and you know how to put a hits like that, what you need is just a little financial backing and then you go. But the good thing is now all is IP, all is publishing, all his masters.

This man, time is money, on label, through Empire. So he's going to rock and he's going to be stopped now because now all you got to do is continue to put out the hits and we go. We're less used to hearing that version of it as in like I'm a huge artist. I have all this credibility. People know that I can make hits, but the labels basically, you know, have me wrapped up in deals that I don't want to be in. You don't hear that as much now because the artist has way more leverage in these situations. But like you, when you sign, like put us in your position, like paint the picture of us where you were at when you did sign your deals initially. You probably felt like this was the only way that you were going to be able to get your career off the ground.

Right? Right? So, you know, I didn't have too much. You know, I had knowledge, but not too much. You know, my mom was in prison. I was homeless, so I was just signing deals. And, you know, they weren't terrible, terrible. They weren't amazing deals.

You know what I'm saying? So I've lived and I learned that. Like I said, and God has got me out of those situations, bro. And Adam, now it's a blessing. I have fucking Chris Brown on my album, little T.J. on a new album, Favio. I have NBA Young Boy, Free Top, matter of fact. I got all these, like,

Like the album is with two C. When I tell you, no cap, I mean, everybody, Trippy Red, like everybody's on the project. And I feel like it's the Sean Kingston field that the people miss, like the old school Sean Kingston with the reggae, the Jamaican, the island, the R&B, you know what I'm saying? But it's also a new edgy hip-hopness to it as well. And I feel like, yeah, man, when these music comes out,

people are going to be blown away. I've been working on this project for a year and a half, two years. Right. And I feel like a lot of artists like that who are super popular right now, you know, most artists don't get to like take eight years away from putting an album out and still have the enthusiasm from a lot of the big artists right now. So that's dope to hear that they're fucking with you like that. Yeah, man, it's a blessing.

Like when I tell you, like, quarantine for me has been non-stop busyness. Like, I think, for real, I think if quarantine wasn't, you know, didn't take place, I probably would have had, you know, a dope-ass album, but it would have never had so much features because you got to think about it. All the artists were at home. You know what to find them, yeah. Little TJ, you know, these are all my friends, but these guys don't got to go to Rolling Loud.

They ain't got no festivals because everything shut down. They just got to be in the house. So when I started playing people, you know, vibes and started sending them stuff to get on, it was like, it was the easiest thing. Sway Lee, shout out to him. He's on the album. Ozuna, which is, you know, a huge Spanish artist.

He's on the album as well. Yeah, bro, it's just a blessing, man. But I think, I think, Adam, another thing that Sean's not mentioning, And then a lot of these artists who are fans of Sean and friends of Sean, they came, when they came over to the studio in the house, the way this man writes a song. Like, nobody saw them in an element.

All you hear is, you see them on the videos, you hear them on the radio, is different when you get in the studio or the artist that knows how to write a record. And write a record for real. Like, ain't no ghost writer in the room. Right. So tell us about the early days of you even being interested in music and how you became creative

and how you eventually built up this buzz They got you signed and you became a fucking household name like overnight. So basically I've been doing music since I was seven years old. Seven, wow. Yeah, my grandfather is Jack Ruby. He was one of Bob Marley's producers in the 70s. You can look him up. His name is Jack Ruby.

So it's always been in my background and my family that music is, you know what I'm saying? Reggae music is a huge part of, you know, how I was raised up. But what really took me to the top was when my mom got sentenced to 10 years in prison, I kind of was on my own. And how old were you 15? I was 14. Okay. And when did she get caught up for?

She got caught up for. She was basically doing, you know, tax invasion, fraud, drug trafficking. Uh-huh. And I think that was it. That's not, yeah. Wow. Okay. And so then what happens to you after that?

Because I only been around my dad like three times, right? So I don't really have a crazy relationship with him. So when my mom left, it was like, I was on my own, you know? And it forced me to become a man early and to get on my job. And I always said to myself that when my mom get out of jail, like, I'm going to be picking her up in her dream car. Like, I knew in my head that, you know, 10 years is a long time for me to get the shit together. But I knew when she got out that I was going. So I started going crazy.

I started hustling hard. I came to L.A. with $300 in my pocket. Wow. Yeah, you know, that's, that $300, like, was only the last like two days. What year are we talking that? We're talking, 2006, 2005. Okay. So early, early MySpace.

Sarah because a lot of people said that about you like Sean Kingston came up my my space right that's how I was getting into so basically um 2006 I was just homeless you know I'm saying out here figuring it out bouncing from my aunt Charanda's house to some family members friends that we knew which is Leslie he was a Haitian guy that was dating my mom back in the day he lived out here in Burbank so I was staying at his house between Aunt Sharonda and his spot I was going back and forth back and forth out here and I just I just yeah I just I see you I figured out how to work the internet

because my space I started blowing up on the charts. You know, I remember they used to have the indie charts. So my song started, I think two songs started taking off on the indie chart or whatever like that. And I just started hitting up people, like, you know, sending my music to them. So I hit up Timberlin. I remember hitting up Little John, Forrell.

I'm hustling. I'm sending like 400 messages a day, like copy and pasting messages just being on the grind. And one day I get home and I open my inbox and I see J.R. Odom in my inbox. I'm like, what? Gerald Rolum, he's like, yeah,

you know, we got your email, you're persistent, we love it, sell us some more music. So I sent them some more music, and they were like, yo, we love your sound, but, you know, we want to, we want to vibe with you,

but we don't know, we don't have no budget right now to fly you from Miami to LA. I'm like, no, I'm in Burbank right now. And like, I'm like, I'm in Burbank. It's perfect. Like, I'm here. And like, yo, let's go.

So I linked up with Dunman and the rest was history. Like, the first day I got there, they started singing me, they started hearing me, you know, melodies, And they say, yo, we want to sign you. And that was your first time in a real studio?

First time in a real studio. Wow. And were you just taken aback by how much better your shit sounded, recording in there and everything? It was just on from there. Like, I seen the profession. I was, you got to think about it. That time, Gerald was, you know, killing it. He had, if I was your best friend for 50 Cent, he had SOS for Rihanna.

He had push it to the limit by Rick Ross. He had all these big hits. So he basically was kind of like, I was kind of like his protege, just making, you know, soaking up all the energy and just learning and taking a day by day. Right. Who were you studying on a musical level? Because you seemed like the kind of guy who was really like soaking up the game. But it was life or death for you, right? No, it definitely was. Because like I said, my mom was locked up. I was homeless. So it was either like I was going to get a job, which I was damn sure close to getting a job. But I just knew for a fact that my music will work. So I'm like, for get a job right now. Like I got to try to go full full speed at this. And I did. You know, and that's why I try to, even when I'm doing interviews now, I try to make sure. sure that, you know, I inspire the kids and let them know, like, no matter what you're going through, how you're going through it. Like, you can make a way. You know, you just got to really

just focus, get on your ground and, you know, be ton of vision. And then, you know, like, I tell people all the time, if you keep going at it, man, something positive going to happen. Definitely. In terms of artists, who were you looking at that time? Acon. You know, A-Call was a huge king to me still is. That makes sense. T-Pain. It was so funny because a lot of people don't notice. Drake was, uh, Drake, this is crazy. Drake was hitting up because I was around Jazz Prince and a lot of the rap a lot of people earlier. So I never, since you add them, I got to let you know, like, this is crazy. Right.

Nobody never knew. Drake hit Jazz Up back in a day like, yo, I want to sign with Sean Kingston. And I'm just like, Drake, so I heard replacement girl. And I'm hearing all this early, I'm like, this guy is a star. Right? And then they came. They were like, oh, I think they said he wanted like 200,000 and a Mayback and something like that. But I had just signed.

You feel me? So I was like, damn, I don't know if I got $200,000 right now. But I want to sign this guy, like, and he ended up being Drake. But that shit crazy. So it's like, that was a whole other thing, too. Like, to see all these people was just hitting me up trying to, it was crazy, bro. Once Beautiful Girls start taking off, it was just like, it was over. That paints the picture of where the world was at at that time,

because we've been in the Drake era for like 10 plus years. So, like, the fact that you were just starred in pre-Drake, that's pretty crazy. Just starting. Beautiful Girls came out, yep, and it was just building up. And I have, it was crazy, bro. But, okay, were you going, when I think of you, I think of you as being somebody who seems like a real master songwriter, was that your intention? Were you studying somebody like Acon who was clearly making hits? Like, where was your mind at?

And do you think you gravitated towards making those hits because you knew that that was going to be the shit that got you out of your financial situation? Yep. I knew for a fact that I was coming with a new sound. And what I did, and that's why I tell people who's making music now, it's like I can find a lot of talented people. There's so many talented people out there, but what's going to separate you from the rest is having your own sound. You know what I'm saying?

Like the first 10 second of song come on, somebody got to be able to identify, whether it's an ad lib, whether it's a, you know what I'm saying? It's something that they got to be able to identify you. And once you got that sound created, I feel like everything's going to fall into place after that. So I was really, you know, I was just studying the market. And I was just like, wow, A-Con got T-Pain, the convict music.

I'm like, man, I got to start my label, so I came up with time as money. And I signed. You started that even before? or you really got your career off the ground? Okay. So the first artist I signed was Ayaz. He had a couple hits out.

Shadies like a melody. That was my artist. I wrote that song. Wow, really? He was signed to me. You can look it up right now. I-Y-A-Z, right? That was number one in the world.

Then I turned around and signed Torrey Lanes. Oh my God. I forgot about that too. Holy shit. So I signed Tori Lanes and it was just crazy, bro. Like I was just living in life. I had two amazing artists. I was, you know, torn all the way, you know, with Justin Bieber, all that.

And, you know what I'm saying? Who you had a video with when he looked like he was yet to even begin puberty? He was so fucking young when that video with you is crazy. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy, bro. Like, this dude was 15, 16 years old. Right. And I seen it right away. See his YouTube.

He probably had, what, 700 views, 800 views? Right. I DM them instantly. Like, yo, I'm coming to Canada on a Bieber tour. I want to sign you. And normally the, the, the, um, Dope artists are not always dope A&Rs. You know?

A lot of times, like, a big artist will, like, sign a bunch of artists and they never go anywhere. And they never really go to go know your facts. You sound like you have a pretty crazy track record. It's just being able to spot shit early. Think about it. Travis Scott, all these people, like, like, how Soldier was saying. Like, I think Soldier Boy mentioned a couple times how a lot of people was on his couch. But if you really, really check the records, if they wasn't on Soldier Boy couch,

they was on my couch. Like, a lot of artists came through me. I just was never, like, you know, the type of dude would be like, yo, you know, throw it in people faces. I'm a humble dude. So when I do stuff for people, I do it out my heart. I don't do it to get no clout, no recognition. I don't do for none of that.

But a lot of artists came to me, you know, Travis Scott, a lot of them. When you first got in the studio with JR, how long was it before you landed on Beautiful Girls? Or was that something you already have? No, I started, I had beautiful girls probably like, I say a month and I have two months in. Okay. We created that together. Right. I basically went to JR studio one day, and on the way there, I took a cab.

in the cab, they were playing Benny King standby me. One of my favorite songs ever, and I never realized it was the sample from beautiful girls until I was getting ready for this interview. It was Benny King's standby me. I was like in my head while it was in the cab. I'm like, hmm, I wonder if anybody sampled this already.

Then I started looking on YouTube, looking at Google. I'm like, wow, nobody sampled this? We're going to do this today. So I pulled up to the studio and told J.R. Like, yo, J.R., we got to flip this. He's like, let me hear it. I'm like Betty King's down by me. And that was it.

And you wrote all the lyrics and everything. Where were you at in your mind at that point? Was there any particular girl that was tormenting you in your brain? No, of course I had some puppy love and situations that was going on. But I just was really writing it off of, you know, like, I'm a type of person like I can kind of like, like, everything that my mom was going through, everything that I would see growing up, everything. Like, I'm one of those type of people. Like, I can put myself on, I could build storylines, you know what I'm saying? I'm good with stories.

So with beautiful girl, it was just basically like a, you know, a concept idea like, you know, it's like, damn, we want all the beautiful girls, but all the beautiful girls come with the most problems. This is a story that I can definitely relate to, yes. A lot of the most beautiful girls I've ever met in my entire life are also like the most deranged because they're just used to being able to get away with murder. Because they're beautiful. Because guys won't check them. And so you see it all the time that they kind of end up like incapable of dealing with situations. in life because they're used to fucking some guy just dashing in and helping them out.

And we've all been part of the problem. Oh yeah, for sure. For real. For sure. Definitely. So, okay, talk about your life changing there, though. Like, did your life not really begin to change until you landed on that song? No, it changed a little bit before that because when he signed me, he gave me $100,000. Oh, okay.

So you got to think about it, 100,000 for, like. I'm from the trenches. A hundred thousand of me is it was like a million dollars. Probably even more. So I was really excited. So I was living, you know, comfortably, a little comfortably once he gave me that. Right. And then like I told you two months in,

we came up with that song and everybody in the studio knew that. That was a smash. Like, yo, that's the first single. Right, like, out of the gay. Undeniable. Undeniable. You hear it one time. You know what it is.

You know what it is. So it was like, okay, this is the first single. And we just took it from there. And I mean, it's crazy because very rarely do you hear a song that is so big instantaneously that like literally every person that I said, I'm interviewing Sean Kingston today, either started singing that song, started fucking talking about how much that song

meant to him when they first heard it. It's really very, very rare that a song could have that big, even impact on that many people. It's crazy, bro. Like, I still get messages today. Like, you're my childhood, nostalgia. I just want to, like, I just want to cruise with top down with, listen to all Sean Kingston.

I'm like, I'm getting all these messages. I'm like, wow, you feel me? Like from Take You Air, the Dudley Love with Nicky Banage, all the hits, like Justin Bieber with Eamini with Justin Bieber, all those records, like, people remember growing up to him, and that was an amazing time in their life. So a lot of people would be DME, a lot of it. I'd be like, yeah, that's dope, you know.

Damn. So, okay, the album comes out, or was it a single out before the album? Single out was before the album. And, I mean, I just imagine the shit started changing very, very rapidly for you. Man, I'm talking about three shows in one day. I'm like, what?

20,000 a show. I'm like, yo, you know what I'm saying? I'm doing, you get it. You get it. You get it. I started, you know, I knew I made it when I did it. a bar mitzvah with bon jovi you know what i'm saying i did a bar mitzvah i swear

i did a bar mitzvah hampton new york with bon jovi the whole group i'm like yo this is crazy i'm lit right holy shit that must have been pretty surreal given where you were at even just like a year or two before that huh backs wow do you feel like did you let the fame get to you

did you like get out of control with it did you did you start indulging a little too much yeah i'm not gonna lie you know i lost my way because i was around people you got to think about it I had so much yes people around me. You know, I had like, you know, I was telling with the wrong people. It's just a lot of stuff

happened that, you know what I'm saying? That, that, that, that I made some, you know, bad decisions. You know what I mean? Like, I came out here. I started not, you know, not drinking lean, but like, basically, yeah, drinking lean. That's awful lot of stuff. I'm trying to be. You feel? You feel, me? Just getting the wrong stuff and

the wrong crowd and kind of lost my way a little bit. Then God, I didn't go too deep in it, but it was kind of like a situation where, It was just like, you know, I was just going through this depressed moment for a little bit because, like I said, those contracts started, you know, getting shitty here. And I'm just like, damn, I can't put out music. Did Bieber get you into lean or did you get Bieber into lean? Shit, I don't even know.

I think he got it. I don't even know how he got into it. How was it sipping with him, though? That was about fun. Man, that was legendary. I was legendary. I was legendary for show. But I was just like, damn, Bieber, you messed up activist.

Like, I love you. So you're on board of that theory that he's the one who got a band? I think so. Oh, my God. It's official now. You remember how much you were paying for a plane at the time? 600, 500, 500. Dear God.

200 line for walk now. Yo, I look at them. I'd be like, what? The best shit, which is activist, was 500, 600. I'm like, what's going on now? I get too much EDD money, man. That's crazy, though. Change the whole shit.

You guys were young as fuck and just living that young pop star life. Do you feel like you didn't have enough. voices who are sort of leading you in the right direction and giving you the game and telling you to be careful and move slow? Yeah, like hot 1G, like camera to my life. No, I just had people looking at me as a dollar sign and, you know, just try to milk the situation. I never really had no father-father figure, so you kind of think about it, like my mom gone and people just come in and out of my life, it was just, you know? Right. So did you actually end up picking your mom up in her dream car? Oh yeah, for sure. How was that experience? That was amazing.

That was a red on, uh, uh, she, her dream car was a red continent. GT with tan seats. Right. And I picked her up in a Red Continental GT. She had the car for like two and a half years. I'm like, Mom, I'm going to sell this car. You do not drive this shit.

She started collecting dust in the garage. I'm like, cool. She's not a driver? I mean, she'd go to the beach here and there and little stuff, but she wasn't really whipping that shit. Right. So were you having to like explain to your mom over the phone what was happening in your life?

She must have been pretty astounded. She was, but she was also worrying about her commissary too. Like, all that shit sounds good. good, but, you know, I need some money on my books. I'm like, Mom, don't worry. Like, I'm really actually, you know, becoming a big artist. She's like, we'll see. Not on like, you know, but like, just, you know, not, she believed in me, but for sure she believed in me.

She was just like, everything just sounded surreal at the moment. Yeah. And she started seeing like, oh, wow, like, he's on Jimmy Kimmel. He's on today's show. Like, you know what I'm saying? Because there must have been a point where it's spilled over and all of a sudden she's just seeing you on TV and it's like, oh, okay, he's not just saying this. This is real. Yeah.

Man, man, they started treating her like Beyonce in jail. They was running behind this. She was getting free meals, extra stuff. She was getting all type. It was like her bringing scarves, all type of shit. It was just, it was fluttered her. Wow. That's amazing.

So, okay, you would characterize the next few years of your life as just being on tour and just basically living this life? Or how did the next couple years play out of your life? It was just touring and, you know, like I was, you wouldn't believe it. Adam, like, for a dude, like before Corona, I missed out on $2.1 million worth shows with no new music out. Why is that? Because I guess not, just the, no, the pandemic.

Why did you miss out? Oh, before. You know, right before the pandemic came, I had $2.1 million worth of shows booked already. So you are already ready to do a big return to the live scene, okay. And then the pandemic came and I was like, shit. But, but, but, but, but, but, but, he can tour, he, he tours like that consistently every year without like, like, like, the music is so infectious that, like, even if he didn't put out a record, he was still tour for

$7, $8 million a year. Yeah, because, I mean, when you have a catalog, like the one that you have, I mean, there's all kinds of different, you know, there's radio festivals, there's sort of like overall music festivals. Like, you could fit into a million different, like, you could probably be on a big, rolling loud spot, you know?

I was doing so much, I don't even believe it, real, like, I had so much that we had to start sending deposits back. I'm like, damn, this crime shit, really. You know what I'm saying? And they, boom, God bless me, started, you know, opening this guy doors to let Wangji come in and, you know, bring shit back to life. That's teamwork, though.

But that's what happens when you have a great partner. Like, the partnership is clear because I don't tell Sean what to do. John's his own boss, is all man. I give him advice. And then we look at that advice and say, okay, what do we think about that advice? Shout out to Caesar, too, man. Caesar, what's up, bro? Caesar, you got to come in the camera a little bit, man.

You got to. This dude right here is the dude that records all my music. He's the engineer. He's the producer. This guy right here is a legend. You know what I'm saying? Gotta keep a good engineer. Yeah, when I say this guy's a genius, genius,

I found him through a mutual friend and ever since then, we've been glued together. Like, I got, I don't know, if he ain't in the session, I ain't recording. It's literally just like that. So I want to thank him because I let the world know this guy right here is an amazing engineer and all the music you're about to hear.

Everything is mixing and mastered all that shit by Cesar. Crazy. Shout to Cesar. Hey, so, okay, early, on though you're talking about how you're a party and everything did you lose your way in a sense like did you stop kind of having that enthusiasm for recording and everything sure i was depressed adam i just told you i was i was like was going through it man i didn't want to because you got think about i'm in the house and i'm looking at people saying i fell off but i'm like how the hell i fell off when i'm writing

hits for your favorite artist and i'm living in a six million dollar house but it's just they you know out of sight out of mind they're not seeing me they're not know what i'm doing and it kind of gets you after a while, you know, you're reading all this shit, like, damn, then, you know, lawsuits coming and in play, jury lawsuits, and this, this, dad, you're like, what the hell, man? You're like, damn, and then, like I said, I went through all those trials and tribulations

to make me a better person who I am today. You know, I felt like I went through what I went through for a special reason, you know? Now I got a testimony. I could inspire new artists and show them the way and let them know. You don't got to get all that jewelry. You don't got to get all that, invest in some property.

You said with a fucking brick on your finger right there. Oh, yeah, but you should have to inspire. from these shit from six like five years ago boy I didn't buy I even buy none

I've been investing this guy right here got 80 buildings I got six you know with this dude that's what I'm trying to tell you

like he's the type of dude to come in he don't even like the typical managers was going on okay you focus on music

I'm gonna get percentage off your shows we go you feel me I'm gonna get and cool no this guy's like

yo Sean aside for music I want you to set yourself up you've been through too much you've been doing too much splurging

you don't see where that got you you don't seem where I need you to invest. And I need you to go, I'm like, all, well, let's do it. But there's so many other strategic partnerships out there where people want to work with Sean. It's not hard. These days, if you're a big musician, there's a million different ways that you can capitalize on that. My work is easy to be really honest with you.

He makes it easy for me. So he made his partner, Hunter. You know, they got, shout out to Hunter. They got a crazy situation going on. And the guy basically just is like, yo, Sean, I want you to go little by little, but I want you to, you know, I started doing that. I started doing Airbnb properties. and move on to Leicester, you know,

long-term wealth. Sean has to focus today on long-term wealth, which that's what you're doing. And I think that that's the bigger part for his fans and the young people that look up to him. Yeah, the music is great. That's the foundation. The hits of the foundation.

The touring is a foundation. What is he doing 20 years from today? Where is Sean Kingston 20 years from today? And that's a wealthy real estate mogul. And being a pop star and like being constantly, present at every awards show and being on everybody's records and stuff like that and then just making a lot of money and being happy these are two very different things that don't always overlap right because when you if you want to like had chosen to keep putting yourself out there

constantly year after year you know it's like yeah people are going to have the perception oh Sean's John's doing great I see them everywhere yada yada but then meanwhile that might not be great for your mental health and it might not be great for what you want to be doing with your time. You know, like when you talk about being in the studio writing for people, but you could get a big chunk of the money off of that record right there and not ever have to tour. It's a very, very different experience. Yeah. And that's what it was with me. I was writing a lot of stuff for Chris Brown. I did the Mosey record, you know, with him, him, French Montana and Amigos. I helped out the Ayo record with Tiger. Like, you know, I was definitely there for Chris Brown, you know, behind the

scenes writing a lot of stuff and for a lot of other artists as well, you know. And I felt like this is where it really, really, really, really came to the point where it's just like, I want to come back out. Like, I want my fans to hear the new Shaw Kingston, the older Sean Kingston. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's time again. And I feel like, you know, nothing beats itself. Like right now, we got a lot of stuff playing, and I'm excited. Because there must have been a time where you kind of felt a little overexposed and where being super famous didn't feel as fun.

And then all of a sudden being a little bit more anonymous and just being in the studio. made you happy. But then once you've had enough of that, you start to feel like, damn, like I kind of miss having that relationship with the fans and really being on stage. Well, I guess you're on stage all the time regardless. But, you know, putting yourself out there and saying what you want to say on records and all that is something that maybe you've wanted to taste again at a certain point. Yeah. And I wanted to go out there and do it. And I feel like, you know, I got him by my side. Shalatuan G4444 management, Bethany. I got Empire, like I said, shout out of Ghazi, Nima,

and Tina Davis happy to ANR, which I got a beautiful, happy. I got a beautiful A&R. His name is happy. The dude is dope. So it's like, we got a whole team. And I feel like, you know, that's together, everybody achieves more. And that's what we are right now. And I really feel like, Adam, earlier in his career, he was doing all the lifting.

Right. Right. So when you're carrying the entire team, you get tired as a player. You feel me? So we have to put, we have made a decision as a team to let him. to let him be the star and the owner, but let's support him, let's care him, because he was caring everyone, right?

Spending millions of dollars helping everybody out, giving a lot of people jobs, there wasn't sometimes doing what they were supposed to be doing. So it's about, I think it's getting fun for Sean now, because now he's able to look at his organizational chart and look at his team, and he could pick up the phone at any given time, this is what we're doing for you, do you approve it?

This is what you're going to do, do you approve it? And I think that is what's giving you this clarity, Sean, today, to be even greater than you were back in. I really, I truly don't believe his career started yet. I think the world is yet to see what's going to happen with Sean Kingston. I think this chapter is, everything else he was just doing was just laying the foundation. Now he's building the building. That's interesting because, I mean, when you look at a lot of people like who, you know,

Michael Jackson, a prince, it's like, you know, when they were your age, they were just getting started in a lot of ways, you know, you're not like some, you just experience a much of success early on. It's definitely the right attitude to have. Yep, and I'm excited, man. Like I said, I'm a godly person, you know. And, you know, I definitely understood what it takes to, you know what I'm saying, understood what it takes to get back.

And I feel like that's just hard work, determination, and hunger, you know. I'm in the studio to 8 o'clock in the morning every night, like just coming up with different concepts, different melodies, ideas. It's like just, just hungry for this again, you know? That time in the studio is that when you, you're, you feel like you're the most happy because if you're going to stay up to eight in the morning i would assume but you know how much does that mean to you yo when i tell you so i'm like i love the studio i love it like i could just live in there all day really and do you prefer to be in there

alone working on your stuff or you prefer to be in there with a bunch of people or like a crowd of people really it's a little too distracting for you to focus on it just be vibe and just me to engineer maybe one person so even when you're making stuff for other people you'd prefer to just sort of make reference tracks and then show them to people rather than recording right in front of them? Or if they're there, like, you know, Chris or whatever, I try not to make it too, too crowded just so I can really go on and focus and, you know what I mean, get my element. When you mentioned these jewelry lawsuits that you're dealing with and stuff, at a certain point, did you really just start to feel like you were a fucking punching bag for the media?

And was that stressful? And did that take a lot of the fun out of being a pop star? Sure. It did, you know, and, you know, like a lot of people, you know, with the media, it sucks because the fans believe what they read. You know, a headline could come out, and that shit don't really mean nothing. You know what I'm saying? But they just TMZ are worded a certain way and, you know, headlining in a certain way

so they can get traffic. It's all clickbait, right? So TMT will put an article out, and it's like, damn, by the time you're just looking at that, you're like, oh, whoa, Sean Kingston did what? And then you're reading to it, and it'll be like, oh, he just got there. And it's just like, you said. I feel like I was a punching bag, man. I just felt like every year was something, every year was like, damn, damn.

I'm like, I can't catch a break. And I'm like such a great, you know, a humble person. But like I said, I had people around me that was making wrong decisions and being a yes, man, and not really, like I said, just moving fast. And I felt like, but guess what, though, you know what? I'm all my, I'm all cleared up, you know what I'm saying? I don't owe nobody, no jewelry, none of the, I'm good. You know what I'm saying? I got a, like I said, I did $4.2 million deal with Empire.

You know what I mean? And I'm blessed. another thing too when we talk about like and as soon as I got that I started clearing up all this because I ain't I ain't want no karma I believe in karma I believe in doing you feel me so I made sure the first thing I did

was just clear up a lot of the stuff that I needed to you know and when you looked at that stuff it was like a lot of jewelers you know how they finesse they try to finesse the artist a lot you feel me and that's the stories that nobody talks about nobody talks about that nobody talks about why yeah I stopped paying for the jewelry because I was I was getting I was buying 300,000

I was worth of stuff and I come to realize a majority of the shit is Mosinite, you know what I'm saying? Or CVD, lab diamonds. It wasn't even like a lot of, you know what I'm saying? And you're not, you being young, you just buying shit, you're not even really of court, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's how I try to talk to the younger generation now. Like, don't look at the bling.

Because when you go into jewelry shops, they got all the type of lights that's gonna make that motherfucker hit crazy. You're gonna be like, oh, I got a crazy piece. But I tell you bring that shit home. You're like, what is this? Is this the same shit? Like, motherfuckers on. So you gotta really just get involved in your diamonds, you know, F-color,

G color, VVS, S-I's like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you got to know what you get in? Did you ever have that moment where you're in the studio and you got all your jewelry on and you feel like you're the flyest motherfucker on earth? And then you got somebody who's a little deeper in the game and they sort of were like, hey, I don't know. That might not be what you think it is. Facts.

I definitely. Anybody in particular, tell us who told you? I wouldn't be able to say one off the top, but I definitely been in the room with, you. know some celebrities are in like oh Sean like that's a hard-ass tennis chain but you know you may got some SI stones in there and I'm like what I'm like that's I pay 65 bans for this but then you know you got you got and you know you do your investigation and it is s I you know because it's just like you buy shit just you know so I kind of got fed up with a lot of jewelers not a lot just the three main jewelers I was messing with because out of the three only one of them

that was only doing right and that's why I stick with him to today and that's Peter Marco he do all my stuff shout out to Peter Marco, he do all my stuff now, because I feel comfortable with him. Like, I know what I'm getting. Every time I buy something, you get your certification right there. It says everything on there. It's basically like a contract. So, you know, he can get his ass sued if everything on there is. You know what I'm saying? So I kind of just deal with him when I'm getting stuff. But like I said, I haven't bought no stuff in like, I'll say two, three years. Right. Do you feel like, like, did you ever make financial decisions that really put your financial situation in, in jeopardy at a certain point?

Because a lot of people, you know, they come in the game, they get the big advance, and they just fucking run through it so fast. Did you ever have, like, real money issues like that? Or was it? Because I feel like you probably brought in so much money throughout the career that you could afford to make a lot of bad decisions. Yeah, it was not. It definitely was never.

When I was on TMZ, I was on TMZ, but I was in an $8 million house. You know what I'm saying? It was never, it was never that. Right. Definitely. So do we fast forward a little bit to the jet ski incident? Because I feel like that was like another just, like, massive moment. where everybody just kind of stopped

and you were just like 100% where everybody was talking about all of a sudden. Yeah, crash. I basically was, you know, I had a house on Star Island. So I basically, you know, I always used to ride my jet ski like around 2, 3 o'clock.

But this day, it was a Saturday. I never forget. And I wanted to go a little, you know, on the other side of the water. So I was going 75 miles per hour. As I got close, you know, jet ski doesn't have any breaks. So as I got close,

I tried to slow down because I knew I couldn't make it under because the tide got high it looked like I could have went under but as I got close to it I started noticing that the tide you know it was rising up so I started going 75 miles per hour

like that guy and then I hit the bridge you know I hit a bridge and I tore my aorta which is the tube that connects to your heart wow yeah so and so okay how do you get rescued at that point

or like like sky left me they had to wow and so how long were you out there before they realized you were out there though i was out there for like 10 minutes 10 to 15 minutes and is your life pretty much flashing before your eyes yeah my lungs was crushed uh blood coming out everywhere um splitting up blood um on type of stuff holy shit how long was it before you i mean you must have been out for yeah i was out for like an hour and a half probably like an hour but the blessings of when i got knocked out, unconscious as I was just floating, an ex-coast guard, an ex-coast guard who just happened to be, it was a miracle.

You know, this guy was an ex-coast guard, but just happened to be going the wrong way, and he was about to make a U-turn, and as he's making the U-turn, he sees, you know, people, you know, calling for help that was in the area where, you know what I'm saying? Because they see me face out, they seen all the blood, they seen everything,

so he jumped in and brought me up, tried to do CPR and, you know, shit like that was coming around, all up, you know, blood kept coming up, and they sky-list, me that's when the helicopter came they brought me to jackson memorial hospital and you know god took me the god took it from there that really occurs to me that like we're very lucky to even be having this conversation with you right now i'm kind of in my mind i'm like picturing the other version of this where it's like damn sean kingston's almost been gone for 10 years i mean that that must

of once you were done healing and stuff did that kind of give you a different lease on life like realize how how close you came to losing it all yeah facts it made me thankful um it made me just you know, like now, it's just like, I'm very more cautious, you know. When I'm doing something, I'm not rushing and doing it. Like, I'm really, you know, seeing if this is what I want to do. Right. And, yeah, pretty much. How long were you in the hospital before you started to get to a point where you could have a somewhat normal day?

I was a critical condition for like two months. I see you. Wow. And how long did it take before you could sort of like live a full day without having to necessarily have this be a huge part of your day? I would, like, a couple months. Right. Three months. I started doing, you know, all the guys, the therapy people started coming over,

and I started doing therapy and, you know, getting my body right, getting my hand, like making sure all the, you know, because a lot of, all my left side, all this was crushed right here. So I had to learn how to, you know, get everything back moving again. Holy fuck. That's insane. I can't believe you made it through that. It was pretty amazing. God is, it's a, bro, it's a blessing.

It's crazy. Definitely. Wow. That's incredible. Talk about your relationship with Soldier Boy. You're talking about how people were sleeping on you guys's couches and stuff. Are you guys still close? Like, how do you feel about it?

Yeah, for sure, man. That's one of my closest friends. Like, we talk every other day. We might not talk daily, daily, daily, but the weekend go past if I don't hear from. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's my boy, man. You got to think about it. We both came out, 2007.

Yeah. You know, the summertime. You know, I came out July. I think he came out like a month before me. However, or I was a month before him. But we basically was always, but because we're, you know, same time. same era, you know? Yeah.

So all the shows used to be me and soldier. A lot of the tours was me and soldier. Right. He's somebody else who was kind of had a, it kind of became like a media punching bag at a certain point where they basically just decided that they wanted to, you know, give him a hard time every day on the internet.

I mean, he kind of played into it, that breakfast club interview. Like, when you were watching that, what was going through your head? Man, I was just like, yo, this guy's crazy, boy. But is he crazy? Tiger. I'm like, oh, this dude is ridiculous. Is he crazy or is he a marketing genius? He's both.

He's both. He's crazy, but he's a marketing genius at the same time. Right. Only reason why I say he's crazy because Solj is going to act on whatever. If he's feeling it right there and then, he won't let you know. He ain't going to be like, all right, man, this is Adam 22. I got to be political correct. You're going to come on with him, man. I got a hundred shots, man.

I got a hundred shots, man. I got a man. Nigel pull up, niggas up. Like, Solian, come on. Let's try to defuse the issue. Like, let's not go straight. You know what I said? I love that dude, though.

That's my boy, man. Yeah. I mean, he did a no jumper interview. like maybe like six months before he did that breakfast club interview and he gave me like a pretty a pretty like stable normal. I see he fell asleep on you man. Did he fall asleep? I think it was an interview. He was like he was falling asleep and you caught him my thing. Yeah. I can't remember. Yeah. Definitely could have happened. But I mean, I feel like that he gave us a pretty like normal interview and then he went into breakfast club and I was like, oh, this is the marketing genius version of him that went in

there with a bunch of like wild ass shit sort of in his mind that he was going to say to capture everybody's attention, which he's just like, when he wants to, he's so good at making everybody obsessively pay attention to what he has going on. But we've seen like a very different version of the past few years where he's not doing interviews, he's doing his Twitch shit, and he has a hit right now. But I mean, he just seems like he kind of maybe had some of the same realization that you had, which is that, you know, maybe I'll enjoy my life a little bit more if I'm a little bit more low-key and not always putting myself up in the media. I just always tell him that. I say, like, Soja, not everything you got to put out there.

Like you want to have a private life. I understand that you came up off YouTube and your version of it is vlogging and really getting close to your fans and really bringing them in. But it was a lot of stuff that didn't need to be said. You know what I'm saying? Like a lot of beefs and a lot of stuff like that.

But, you know, everybody was young. You got to think about it, man. You give $1 million, you give, you know, $8, 9 million to a kid that's, you know, 16. I mean, come on, bro. Like, I mean, it's all come with a lot of shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, people don't think about that side of it.

People just look like, all this niggas an asshole he's this he's that it's just like man you gotta think about it bro like we're still young but we're young with a lot of money and people think your life is supposed to be easier because you have a lot of money because you have a lot of money that's the opposite it's the opposite so it's like you know you're going

through mad different shit you got people calling you like yo can I borrow 300 I used to change your diapers and I'm like she used to change my diapers I don't remember you shit by nature of me being a baby at that time I do not remember you but okay cool Like, it's just, you know, you're dealing with all type of stuff, so. Holy fuck.

Okay, I hate to do it, but I got to hit you with the iconic quote. I introduced you to Sean Kingston. Does that trigger a little bit of PTSD right there when you hear that? The soldier quote when he was saying that to Cuevo. The Cuevo, you did it. I mean, that was just such a viral thing for him to say, like, in that moment. Like, having this whole conversation with you, I can see why that actually was a very relevant thing for him to say at that time.

But I think to a lot of people, it was like, why the fuck is he, bragging about introducing him to Sean Kingston. This is a strange thing for him to say in this moment. Shout out to me, he goes, man. He definitely did introduce me to them boys, though. I introduced him to Travis Scott. I introduced Soldier to Travis Scott, because Travis Scott was basically, you know,

staying with me at my house. And I basically, you know, believed in Travis from, like, when he was a producer with Kanye, he didn't even have no music out like that. It was still early, you know? Wow. And him and his manager, David,

was always, you know, at my spot. So I introduced in Soldier, to come over there to record. So one day he brought Migos over. Because he was having all the big artists around that time. He had famous decks around. He had Migos around. He had soldiers like one of these A&R type dudes that,

if he had been signing artists right back band? He would have the biggest label ever. He would be on top of the fucking world. Yeah, facts. Like, it was crazy. So he was bringing Migos over. And I had Trevor Scott at the crib. And when they came, when they both linked up,

everybody was vibing and that's when they made sloppy toppy the Migos and Travis. A lot of people don't even know how sloppy top it was made but that's how it was made. It was made because I injured, soldier brought Migos over and I had

Travis already over there so we basically let them introduce you know what I'm saying and they did their thing and yeah were there any girls around? Was there any actual sloppy toby happening? Sorry if that's T-R No la la la la la la la la la la la just going off of memories

Yeah, okay, the night before. I feel you. Okay, so you said shout out to Migos, I assume that you at some point squashed the beef with them or put all that situation to bed? Yeah, that shit bent over with, man. Like I say, you know, a lot of stuff,

niggas was just really acting out on just being young, man, and not really understanding. Like, you feel me? A lot of stuff you got to kind of just, you know, analyze it and be like, you know, does this really need my energy? Does this kind of, you know? So a lot of the stuff we were doing,

who was just really young, you know? Migos ended up, you know, having a phone conversation with me. And that's been squashed, you know. And I respect everything they've been got going on. And, you know what I'm saying, still do. That's cool. They work, I think.

They all good guys, especially, you know, offset and take off. Those are like, you know, my brother's brothers. Like, we used to talk every day. So, there ain't nothing. But, you know, like I said, once you get older, you're focusing on the money. You're focusing on getting it, right,

you know, bringing back feel good music, let my fans, like all that beefs stuff. and that negative vibes, we passed that. We didn't even really, you know? Yeah, because, I mean, when you even think about that era in time of soldiers and Migos beefing and you being sort of wrapped up in and stuff, when you think about, like, where Migos are at right now, it's kind of hard to imagine them being involved in some shit like that now.

It just kind of seems sort of childish in comparison to grown-ass men trying to make money out of this shit, you know? Yep. Facts. Okay, there was a thing about you starting a boxing league. Is that still a possibility? I was some investors was trying to do it with me and we were trying to get it done

but some licenses issue came in bars so okay but um yeah because yale Cyrus was trying to he was trying to fight everybody he was boxing little tj that was at my house oh yeah the house that I made now the house that I bought in the valley and when they

when they was about to do it on the basketball court when it was about to fight I'm like yo maybe I got I got it's too much celebrity trying to box but ain't nothing really set up like you know what I'm saying so I'm like I want to be the first one to, you know, just me having my business mind. And so we spoke to some investors,

and we were trying to put it together, but it never really came out the way we wanted it to. So we like, yeah. It's too bad because when you look at, like, what's going on with these YouTuber boxing matches and the TikTokers and everything, I always think back, I was just talking about this with Vlad the other day,

that if that Soldier Boy and Chris Brown fight had actually happened, I think that that would have been the entry point of all these rappers realizing, oh, I can make millions off of doing a boxing match. That's crazy. The problem I think is that these, These YouTubers have less to lose.

And in hip hop, if you get your ass beat, it's kind of hard to imagine the career necessarily being as strong after that. There's so much ego involved, you know? Yeah, I don't know. Were you ever thinking to actually boxing somebody or you just wanted to be the don't king of the situation? The don't king. Yeah. I ain't getting all sweaty and shit.

I'll take the check from it, though. But you are a big ass dude, bro. The last time you beat somebody's ass, be able to me. I ain't going to lie to you, man. Listen, one thing by the show, my hands work. Yeah, they work. I'm from, you got to think about it. I'm from Kingston.

You know, like, and people forget that. Like, I literally was raised in Kingston, Jamaica, so there's a lot of stuff going on. I don't see him dudes' heads get chopped over a parking space. I don't see, you know, all type of stuff. Chopped? Yes. Like off? Like hanging, like, yeah, basically almost off.

Holy fuck. It's all type of stuff. How often you go back? I got a house there. I go back. Last time I went was right before Corona. since it's been like a year and some change. But I'm always there.

You must be like a fucking God out there. How's that? Hey, I'm the ambassador. Yeah. I'm one of the ambassadors. Right, because it's like, I mean, who's the other like massive stars? Usain boat? Okay, yes.

But musically, like, I mean. Me, Sean Paul. I mean, of course you got the legend vibes cartel and some of the ones that's Damien Marley. And, you know, that's really growing up. But then like the international scene, I would say Sean Paul, Sean Kingston, coffee right now. Yeah.

Damn. I mean, they go hard for their people, though, huh? Facts. You feel just that vibe. They're super proud of you when you're out there and stuff. That must be a crazy feeling. Yeah, Serski. I watched a fucking documentary about Bob Marley.

I mean, you know, a lot of us, like, whitewashed fucking people, we just listen to the music. We're like, the music's great. His career was a fucking war. Like, the story of his career is insane. I told you about that documentary. That documentary is legendary. She won an award, bro. It's crazy.

The craziest should have. about it is I never knew that like political parties would necessarily be like completely wrapped in with gangs. Like that element of it was kind of mind blowing for me. That assassination scene where they showed like how he was going to try to assassinate while he was in the studio. Yeah. Crazy. Madness. Rest and peace. Okay. So this album though, I saw you have G Herbo on the first single. Is that accurate? Yeah. That's big. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely. It's called Darkest Times. And it's coming, you know what I mean? Like, I'm definitely, like, we damn there, like, real close from it.

So I'm excited. Then, like I said, I got a lot of people on the album. The album is called Deliverance. Darkest Time is really, like, we just warming them up. That's just like a set-up record. I mean, I won't even really call it my first thing. It is because the first one coming, but we just laying the tracks with that one. But the song is out of here, though.

Definitely. It's a smash, though. What would you say that you were inspired by in terms of, like, newer shit that's out Or just like what sort of made you want to go? I listen to everything, bro. You'd be surprised. Like, I listen to everything. Like, from Nardo Wick to the new Nardo Week to, to Brent Fias, to Givion, to,

to, Lauren Hill, sometimes taking it back miseducation days. I listen to everything, bro. Everything. Definitely. Yeah, I mean, it's exciting. I mean, is it feel like an exciting time in your life? Like, you're very ready to be back. I can do this.

Do this, man. I can't wait. I'm excited. The fans, y'all get ready. Deliverance is coming, man. First single, darkest times. After that, we come in with another one three weeks. So get ready.

The ride is here. We off to the races. Definitely. Well, I'm excited. I mean, it's good to see you just in such a positive place and ready to do it. It's kind of a little depressing when you look at the Sean King's on Spotify. And you're like, damn, this dude ain't dropped a project in Mad, Long. Like, I mean.

And I got 13 million monthly listeners. That's crazy. That is crazy. 13 million monthly listeners and I ain't put out no music in four or five years. Like, that's crazy. Wow. So get ready. We're on the way.

That is crazy. I mean, yeah, that's got to be a wild feeling to really feel like you could take that much time off and have that strong a connection. I got to ask you, man, where are you? I got to ask you, man, well, the girls are you, man? Mostly they're controlled by my girlfriend. Oh, yeah. They kind of leave a lot of that up to her. This dude is like a real pimp, man.

Like, I'll be seeing all type of girls around at him. Like, I know he got his relationship. but his girls definitely bring other girls around. I'm just like, you must have the best situation ever. Let me tell you, Sean. If the music thing don't work out, there's a lot of money on OnlyFans. So, you know, if you're trying to get in the game,

I think it could be very profitable for you. I don't know, it's just a just throw it out there. Yeah, but, you know, she holds it down. It's a fucked up new world we're in where, you know, an OnlyFans girl is kind of beating the fuck out of... You know, like, when I think about, like, the dating scene pre-only fans, where it was like even the most successful like model or whatever

was not really touching the rapper financially. Now these girls are in their house with their iPhone and they're making so much money. There's more money than rappers kind of. A lot of them, yeah. Wow. Wild time we live in. Wow.

Crazy. You got to find yourself an Onlyfans girl. You single? I'm single, man. Single and planning on staying single? I got a couple vibes. I got a couple vibes. I'm a solid sniper, so.

Yeah, a couple vibes, but I'm definitely single. I'm on the music vibe right now. The smart guy keeping it close to his chest. Respect. I appreciate you guys coming through for sure. Thank you guys, man. The legend Adam. You know, shout out, No Jumper.

I'm a huge fan of the show. Appreciate that. It's a blessing. We're here. Thank you so much. My brother. My guy. Appreciate you, you, bro.

John Kingston. No Jumper. Coolest podcast in the world. Check us out on YouTube, SoundCloud, iTunes. Like, comment, subscribe. Nojumber.com. If you want to support, and we will check out your music live on stream Friday. Appreciate you, man.

Thank you so much. Sir. Thank you.