No Jumper - The Sharp Tank 2 with Spanky Hayes: Wild 'n Out, 2pac, Fame & More
Episode Date: November 5, 2021Sharp sits down with Spanky Hayes to dive in on his come up, his time on Wild N Out and what he has in the works! https://www.instagram.com/tha_sharp_one/ https://www.instagram.com/spankyhayes/ ----- ...NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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No jumper.
Sharpest podcast in the motherfucking world.
Motherfucking.
And today I got, you know, it's hard, man, to even introduce you, man,
because, you know, I grew up watching you, man.
Now I'm interviewing you.
I mean, fuck, you are kind of old.
I have got a old.
We got a fuck good, though.
We got Spanky Hayes in the build, man.
Spakey Hayes is a comedian, man.
B.
What's up with your name being Carl?
You Spanish?
You black, black Spaniard?
Yeah, my dad is a full Cuban, but I don't know.
Your daddy, your daddy, full Cuban.
Full Cuban.
Like all Cuban.
Because I have a name like Carlos, man.
Somebody was really either digging in, hey, man, was really thinking outside the box.
Or yes, you just come from some type of, you know, Spanish, Latin background.
Yes, sir.
He black as these headphones right here, too.
That's what so crazy.
I see you was born in Detroit.
Yes, sir.
Detroit, man.
What up?
Detroit.
86.
I had to go pull up.
Yeah, I had to go look.
He did that.
I had to go look, man.
You was born, hey.
No, no, because you know what?
The only reason I bring that up, man, because, you know, at least people can get kind of like a drift of, you know, what you probably grew up in, man.
Shit, you have any trouble, man.
How was it for you?
Do you grow up in Detroit or did you live elsewhere?
I was born in Detroit.
I grew up basically in Detroit.
But then I went to Harlem, my grandmother, all my dad's family living in Harlem, Harlem and Brooklyn.
Oh, so you're a New York, nigga.
Yeah, New York, basically.
That's why I asked her girl.
I was like, what are you from?
What part of New York are you from?
Yeah.
But, you know, so Detroit, New York, then Englewood, then Huntington Beach.
Now, I'm a white guy.
No, you already was living like a white guy Huntington Beach.
Right, that's what I'm saying.
Now, I'm a white guy.
You was living like a white guy Huntington Beach, man.
Now I'm going to try to pimp.
I'm in Vegas now.
So I'm trying to use my pimp hands.
So back to that, when you were coming up as a kid,
like where did you spend most your time?
Where do you feel like you got most your game from?
Probably from L.A., man.
Because it was cutting dry.
It was either, nigga, what side you own, nigga,
or do you bang or you ain't banging?
Or what the fuck you're going over here?
Take that hat off, nigga, take that shirt off.
You know what I'm saying?
That's real life to me.
Hey, I'm going to tell you this, right?
It came to a point where niggas wasn't even like, you know, where you're from?
They'd be like, all right, well, where your grandma's stay?
Right, exactly.
Where your grandma's stay?
Where you be at?
What neighbor?
What school did you go to?
Right.
They started to turn me, I'm saying, you know, people I knew men from San Diego, that's how
they start doing it.
They want to just fight you so bad.
No doubt.
Shout out of San Diego, though.
Yeah, man.
San Diego Supercharges, man, when they once was, right?
You know what I'm saying?
San Diego Supercharges.
Hey, what's that beach area right there?
Which one?
Mission Beach.
Mission Beach, Ocean Beach.
Ocean Beach.
It's a comedy store right there.
P.B.
What's the name of that?
La Jolla.
La Jolla.
La Jolla is a nice area.
Oh, hell yeah.
La J.
nice.
Yeah, you gotta have your shit strong.
What's you doing out there, man?
Hey, the only black guy.
I'm O.J. Simpson, baby.
Fuck was you doing out there on clean beaches.
You feel.
With dirty bitches.
That's why I ain't there no more.
So were you always a funny guy coming up?
Or was you, you know, you was in school or some shit?
And, you know, you was cracking jokes?
and you know you figured out shit you know i'm a
shit i'm a funny guy my mother's just laughing at my shit
i tell you what when you find this out like when you felt like you
was going to pursue something like this well
well like to answer the first part of your question like in school
like i would talk so much in school that the teacher would be like
well look we're just going to give you the last five minutes of class
and you just come up to the class and just talk man because you won't shut up
unless we do that because i would be flunking everybody around me flunking
because we're talking you know chopping it up
But, you know, I try everything, man, selling drugs, stealing cars.
I tried to be a thug nigger.
I tried, all of that.
Were you good at any of those?
Hell no.
I wasn't good at none of that shit.
But you know what was crazy?
Everybody would say, but, man, you're so funny, man.
Why are you doing this shit?
Like, it takes a motherfucker.
Before you say, it takes a motherfucker to realize when they're just a flat-out horrible criminal.
A horrible, I'm still a horrible criminal.
I'm a horrible criminal.
That's what I said.
I can't even steal.
jokes.
So I can't, you know, horrible.
So I can't, you know, it's just all me.
Me or nothing, man.
So I tried everything.
So, and it just all ended up being comedy.
It's weird, but yeah.
So when you was coming up, you just kind of was like, fuck it.
I'm just, I'm going to pursue comedy, but I'm going to still try to sell drugs on the
side.
I'm going to still try to slash, slash, slash.
When you said you was going to pick up comedy, did you pick that shit up 100% from
from that day forward?
I did.
Did you go through all the mistrial?
Right.
Here's a funny story.
So as I'm selling drugs and trying to stop, right, I'm telling all my friends like,
yeah, man, I'm going to do comedy, man.
I'm about to be like, Eddie Murphy-ass, nigga.
They was like laughing at me like, nigga, he's going to be broke.
Like, honestly, was Eddie Murphy short like you?
Yeah, he's taller than me, but he's short, though.
He's short.
He's taller to me, though.
He's taller to me.
You know what I'm saying?
Uncle Ed is tall.
But, so, yeah, so basically,
I was asking them, like, to help me out still.
Like, nigga, just give me some money still.
Nick, you got a million dollars right there.
Just give me some money.
Nicarg, you ain't going to, nah, nigga.
Come to my show.
Eddie Murphy.
No, I'm talking about selling drugs, trying to stop.
To do comedy.
Okay.
You know what I'm saying?
Because everybody was going to jail and getting fucked up, getting beat up.
I wasn't into that shit.
So you was asking your people that have some money.
Like, man, just come, you know, fuck with me.
Like, shit.
Put some money up, man.
We can maybe make a move for this.
Right.
I was like, I could at least be a scapegoat for you one.
day. You know what I'm saying? Put some money behind
the nigger. You know what I'm saying? Old school game
right there. No nothing
about that shit. Some of their favorite
singers men that have some of the biggest dope dealers
behind them. Funding the campaign.
I'm trying to tell you. It's start with Owen.
First you owe the niggins, then he'd look out
for you. You know what I'm saying? Let's start with the real
shit. You know, you got an old drug dealer in this world. You ain't
living. Straight up.
Did you start doing
improv and shit like that at first? Did you
Like the local comedy clubs
I seen you did something on
You did something on bad boys
Yeah
Bad boys comedy
Some old shit, man
You know I mean shit
That's where the roots are supposed to start
It's supposed to you know
Uplift you
So I'm trying to figure out where shit went fucked up for you
Where shit went really awry
That's why we're here
This is what my podcast is based off of
So we gotta know that the fucked up shit church
Right no we're gonna go into the fucked up shit
So let's go right into the fucked up shit
Let's get it
I retired for six years, right?
And here's the thing about black people, black audiences, not black people, because I don't want to get all fucked up.
But black audiences, they never, they won't allow artists to retire and take off for themselves and live for their own life.
Like a white actress could be like, well, where you been?
Well, I've been taking off and I took my kid, take care of my kids, and I'm married now.
But they don't let black people do that.
Like you automatically fell off.
If I don't see you in six movies come out and you ain't in none of them, you fell off, nigga.
Right.
Straight up.
That's a black audience.
That's the black audience.
Right, right, right, right.
And then the Tari's thing that happened when I called him gay, I called Tari's gay.
Hold on, hold on.
I don't even want to let's keep telling.
Let's go back because I want to back the truck up.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, that's diving in too deep.
Right.
Just back to just, you know, not being able to not even be in two or three movies.
as two movies, as a black actor.
You know, that's got to be a struggle because you're right.
You know, it kind of starts to decline a little quicker than, you know, somebody who, you know,
Patrick Swayze, rest in peace, or somebody who just got a big name.
You know what I'm saying?
Tom Hanks.
Tom Hanks could go off and not work for 10 years.
Right.
He'd come back, they're going to celebrate.
They're going to throw concerts and parades.
Well, all his movies, well, you have to understand some about Tom Hanks.
All his movies, which, hey, man, was one of the greatest actors of all time.
But you have to understand, even with him, he cannot have to drop a movie for 20 years.
And every one of his movies that he ever dropped were legendary.
You know what I'm saying?
They're still eating today.
Channels and different places are still buying that.
Of course.
You know what I'm saying?
Push that out to viewers.
Forrest Gump.
That's going to push for years.
That's never going to go off TV.
It's not going anywhere.
Nowhere.
That's like the Jeffersons or Martin or something.
Forrest Gung.
But back to.
the black
entertainment.
Yeah. Let's dive into that.
What do you think?
Give me your feel. Go ahead.
So I just feel like
okay, first of all, I never
fell off, motherfuckers.
Like, I still got everything I ever had.
I still got all that shit. Nothing
never went wrong for me. It's just that
I don't know if I should say this, but
I just feel like you get to
a point in Hollywood or in
show business that it's not about talent anymore.
It's about who you know and who fuck with you, you know, who fucked you, who in both ways.
And it's not about talent anymore.
So here's another story.
So I go to this audition and in the breakdowns, it says a spanky Hayes type, right?
I can get all into it, but it says spanky Hayes type.
So I go to the audition.
Every agency in how.
Hollywood is calling me.
I'm thinking,
oh, I must have blew back up.
I'm already on TV.
What does this mean?
Like, what is this pertain to?
Like, I'm just telling you how
this could be all fucked up.
It's not about telling them more.
So, okay, so back to the story.
So, Smaky Hayes' character type.
Smicky Hayes type.
I go to the audition.
About eight times I go to the audition.
Finally, I get fed up and say, look,
uh, what's up?
It says Spanky Hayes in the breakdown.
The lady said,
you know, we don't necessarily want Spanky Hays.
We want a Spanky Hays type.
And I'm like, what?
So, again, it's not about talent.
It's about who you know and who you deal with.
It's not about being the funniest.
It's not being the, I was going to say, the sharpest.
It's not being the wittiest.
Sharpest podcast in the world.
It's not about none of that.
It's about who knows you.
I got the deal.
these my friends, I'm putting my friends on.
I might audition for two roles.
Other than that, I got every friend
that can fill this roll up.
So I wasn't on nobody's team.
I wasn't a part of no clique or nothing.
It was just me, like Tupac.
I'm just out here.
Is that why you call yourself Four Pock?
I call myself Four Pock because I'm the fat Tupac.
So that's two more Pock's than Pock.
Four Pock, the fat Pock.
You understand me.
But yeah, man, that's some real shit.
Like people don't understand
Like it's not really about
Like everybody try to be the funniest
Everybody try to
It's not about that
It's about
Like for instance right now
You got your shot at a podcast
Who did you call me?
Why?
Because you know me
You know my number
You know how to get in touch with me
That's what Hollywood is about
That's how all these people
Who work for this beautiful podcast
They all got their jobs
Somebody knows somebody
Who knew somebody
Right
That's what Hollywood is
Right
He knows my homie got the lights
My homie got the girls.
My homie, you know what I'm saying?
Right.
That's what, that's production.
Open up on the streets.
Come on, man.
That's what it is.
So that's what it is.
So, you know what I'm saying?
So once I learned that I wasted my whole 20s,
you know what I'm saying, to be the funniest motherfucker in the world.
And it didn't amount the shit.
It kind of depressed me in a sense.
Well, I'm sure there's things that you went through that nobody will ever know.
Exactly.
You know, I'll say this.
I've talked to Slink Johnson.
I've talked to me and I've got the same birthday.
I've talked to you.
Y'all are good brothers.
Listen to me.
I've talked to you both and I've noticed like y'all are starving comedians.
Yeah.
You're always looking for the dollar.
Y'all don't get the same type of treatment as if somebody else.
And I guess I don't want to put names to it.
No, that's okay.
I don't want to get, you know what I'm saying?
but just certain people, you know, that they will give shots to,
but they will not give you or give slink.
Because I've asked slink, you know, I've asked slink a lot of the same questions.
I'm like, man, bro, why the fuck did they put you on this or on that, you know?
He always told me.
He always kept it humble as not only a black comedian, but as just a black man.
He always said, you know, just wasn't my time, loved one.
Just wasn't my time, you know.
Because it's time.
It's time.
It's only one slot.
Let me tell you.
I was right behind it.
I saw everything.
It's one slot.
We're going to go on Mike Epps.
Mike Epps was the man.
And then they put Kevin Hart there.
The first Kevin Hart, the one who couldn't sell.
The soul playing Kevin Hart, if you will, that era of Kevin Hart.
You feel like he's changed.
Hell yeah.
Because listen, then they took him out and put Kat there.
Cat, they couldn't control Kat.
they gave him all the money all the whatever they couldn't control them they took him down and put
kevin back think about what i said kevin was willing to listen whatever he was willing to give
and that's not we're not we're not putting allegations on yeah that's my man yeah that's my
love for kevin heart you know nobody's putting allegations on him or saying that he's done anything
faulty but there's a reason no it's a line it's a line he's a line he's
they put him back in the front of the line.
Yeah.
That's all it was.
It was me, Corey, D. Ray, Atheon.
D. Ray was a funny mo' fun.
Yeah, D. Ray, that's my cousin.
You remind me in him in a way.
We always in line.
But those were the people in front of us
was Mike Epps,
Cat Williams, and Kevin Hart.
They was already in front.
Because the first episode of Wilding out,
we noticed the crowd saying,
money, Mike, money, Mike.
And I thought to myself,
damn, he's famous already.
He was calling that money, Mike, Mike?
No, they was calling Kat Williams that.
Remember he was...
Money Mike.
Money Mike in the movie.
Yeah, it was in the movie.
He was in a Friday after next, right?
So I was thinking, damn, he's famous already.
So I'm saying that to say,
Kat Williams was in line before me.
You know what I'm saying?
It's a line.
People, it's a line.
We don't, we don't see it.
Y'all don't see it in entertainers,
try to act like it ain't there.
But it's definitely a line.
Well, let's go back to where you were,
because I read about I went and I read about you you know what I'm saying like because I always liked your style I never thought that I had to go you know do a little bit of research and figure out who you are okay to what you got going on for real you know and to see you go from making $27,000 an episode yeah to $1,000 in episode per per cat Williams cat Williams coming in and making $50,000 on episode yeah how did you like how did that make you feel honestly like
Like somebody who's been there to build a fucking, just a foundation and just, you know,
pioneer the game of what Wiling Out possibly would have been.
How did that make you feel, man, getting dropped and just depleted like that?
It was weird, man.
It was really weird.
But I had to face it.
I had to go through it to, like, grow from it.
But it was a lot of shady shit going on with Wiling Out, man,
because I knew the blueprint of it.
See, Nick Cannon got this whole thing.
thing whaling out from me.
Like, I was in this group.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Yeah.
Let's back the fucking truck up.
Yeah.
We were rolling.
Yeah.
But then, you know, I've seen a roadblock.
So you're telling me.
Yes.
You're telling me.
I'm telling everybody.
Okay.
You're telling everybody.
You know, no jumper.
No jumper.
I can't.
Sharpest podcast in the world.
He's telling, you're telling all of us that Nick Cannon got the idea from you.
Yeah.
to even do whaling out.
Exactly.
It was a group called the other level.
We had to deal with...
This is exclusive, right?
This is not...
Yeah, this is very exclusive.
Nobody's ever gotten this from anybody?
Okay?
I'm just making sure.
I'm just making sure like this is something
that's accurate, like something...
Yeah, look it up.
Nobody's heard.
Nobody's heard this before we're going to get exclusive
and we're going to dig deep.
Let's go.
Continue.
Okay, so 2000,
the Aspen
HBO comedy
festival
a group called
The Other Level
from Detroit
myself Joe Blunt
Thomas Ward
and Howie Bell
Andre McCoy
I like Howie Bell
Howie Bell
Funny Man
That's my baby
That's my baby
Yeah funny man
So
We all go
We all catch the train
The bus
However we get to
LA from Detroit
And we all got this group
We all started
in Detroit
and then we get a deal with Will Smith
Nick Cannon gets a deal with Will Smith
We are friends anyway
By the way Nick Cannon
So
It's because you're hitting points
And I just want to get it out
So you're telling me that
Maybe Will Smith might have funded a lot of this
Bringing up his name
Because I mean he has moved through the industry
If you know
Just even trying to be a comedian
Whether it's just even having a fresh Prince of Bel Air
Well I think it was more of a business deal
for him and I don't think it was
nothing personal. He don't know me personally
so I don't take that personal
with Will Smith if he
had anything to do with it, it was
just business, I'm sure.
So, but
his deal go bad, our
deal go bad,
Nick Kennedy used to come to my
house, okay, so he used to dance on
Soul Train. So when he
didn't, when they didn't...
Nick Cannon danced on Soul Train. Yeah, so when they
don't pick you, like it's a picking system,
Soul Train, if you know about Soul Train.
They make everybody wait outside and they pick people to go in.
I didn't know that.
Yeah.
So when he didn't get picked to go in, that's how I'm sure he met Afeon, too, I'm sure,
because Aphion used to dance on Soul Train.
So when he didn't get picked, he would come to my house in Englewood in the jungles,
and we would kick it and talk man shit.
But he was younger.
He was younger than me, but, you know, like we schooled Nick Cannon, all of us.
you know what I'm saying but that's my boy I'm not saying this in no negative type of way this is family like I know every brother Nick Cannon got I know Nick Cannon mother you know what I'm saying I know Nick Cannon that's my brother you know people they uh you know being from Daggar I know few people you should go to school with him out there exactly so continue
so you know what I'm saying so in no negative way I'm saying anything about Nick Cannon that's my boy uh it's just you know business man and and I didn't know that growing up and then I'll tell you one more thing uh Sharp
And I'm going to say this to everybody.
When I was trying to be famous, I didn't have no money.
The minute I didn't care about being famous no more, I was rich.
So that's my thing to everybody is.
Break that philosophy down just a little, just break down the true meaning.
Because I heard what you said, but maybe the viewers might not have caught.
Like, just break that down when you didn't care about being famous anymore.
Right.
So fame is free.
That's why they give it.
Anybody can have.
fame.
You rarely ever hear rich and famous, whoever his name is, or whoever she is.
Because you normally don't get both of them at the same time.
You know what I'm saying?
The rich and famous.
So the famous is free.
That's why it's free.
Fame, free.
It's like kind of rhymes.
But once you don't care about being famous, then you get money.
So, okay, so like we in a group right now, all of us in this room, we all in a singing
group, folk music.
music, whatever we do.
They're going to come to us with a fame deal,
and they're going to come to us with the money deal.
The money deal going to be lower because it's just money.
And then we got to promote ourselves,
and we got to take the money out of this
and pay for our own promotion and marketing and stuff like that,
so it ain't going to be appealing.
But this deal going to be like, oh, we're going to put you on every platform.
We're going to do this for you, and we're going to do that,
and everyone's going to see you, everyone's going to know you.
That's all free.
To you.
you don't get no money off being famous
not unless you work
in the Instagram and everything
but that's kind of fake famous
that's like Insta famous
like you know what I'm saying
Instagram created that
Yeah you know what I'm saying
So it's like
They Instagram made it so anybody
could be famous
Right
So it's like any motherfucker in the world
Can wake up in the morning
and say I'm about to do this
on Instagram and they fucking famous
Do they get money for that?
No
Do they life change? A little
because maybe they got more followers
and maybe somebody on the bus stop
and notice them,
nigga, you funny,
but they don't change nothing for their pocket.
It's just fame.
I get that because, you know,
I go to the liquor store anymore.
You know, motherfuckers have run into me
and they'd be like, sharp, sharp, sharp, you know,
getting, sharp, I know you,
I know you, I'll watch your shit.
That don't put any dollars in the pockets.
It's just what they've seen.
It's just fan.
So I understand what you're saying.
Yeah.
For real.
So for a long time, I only cared about being famous.
I moved to New York to L.A. to be famous.
I didn't know that I was going to be rich.
When you moved to L.A.
96.
Yeah.
September 3rd.
Park was still alive, right?
I seen Pock the first day I moved to L.A.
And then he died about maybe five days, four days after that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I even seen him the night he died in Vegas, but he was walking around.
around pacing so hard, I was like, man, I ain't gonna go say hi to that motherfucker.
You know, I think if Park was still around today, I think he'd even say like he was probably
caught up too much into what other motherfuckers thought about him.
Yeah.
Instead of just moving and just making his, because he was making it.
He was somebody who, he was Tupac.
He was one of the greatest of all time.
He died a gangbanger.
He didn't die Tupac, the greatest rapper.
He died of gangbanger.
He died of gangmen.
No disrespect to gang people.
none of that.
But Tupac was not a gang member.
He came and signed a record deal that made him a gang member.
So that's just my opinion.
Would you say that's when the Takashi 6-9s was born?
And I'm not saying that Pock was a snitch.
I'm not saying none of that.
I'm saying, do you say that's when like that he could be bought on?
Yeah.
Bought on.
He was the first troller.
He was the first like troller.
If they had Instagram when Pock was living, oh my God.
Oh my God
He probably wouldn't have got killed
Somebody would have been fucking online
Showing him
So yeah
He was the first trolling guy
To me
But that dude was dope though
He was dope too Puck forever
You moving around
Where was the first
headlining spots
You felt like you landed
That might have set your career
I did
Before it fucked up
And might have
Did it's
do for you for a second.
Because it did, love one.
It did.
I don't feel that way, though.
It did. No, just for it split second.
Just for it split second.
But it's not about when it fell off.
It's about you getting back on.
That's what matters. So let's get
past the nasty shit.
Right. I want you to accept this.
You told me I can ask you and talk to you.
Anything. Anything.
Anything. Anything.
So let's get past that point that it brought a greater
you. Yeah.
Well, what did that was I got married.
and I got two daughters,
and I had to focus on something else besides myself.
Again, I think that's really got me
where I didn't care about being famous
because I ain't want anybody hollying at me
when I'm with my family.
Let's take your Instagram picture.
Fuck all that.
I hate that shit.
But, you know, you got to do it to be relevant nowadays.
You know what I'm saying?
So, but yeah, but okay, I'll take that falling off.
But again, that goes into that audience.
What I said earlier is like,
Like the black audience will not allow you to take off.
I think that's unfair.
First place you felt like you took off from.
I took off when I started, when I knew I was funny, my own funny.
And I wasn't like nobody else, because that's the compliments I was getting.
It's like, dude, I laugh different at you.
Like, you're real, like the real.
When I start feeling real, like, okay.
And then when I moved to L.A.,
I went up at the comedy store
and the owner of the comedy store
Missy Shore, rest in peace.
By the way, that's Pauly Shore's mom.
Rest of peace, Pauli Shore's mom.
For real, man. Yeah, yeah, that's like
my mom. He was a funny man,
square nonetheless. I watched
him. He never wanted
be in the riffraff. He was just a funny man.
He never crossed over to black comedy
to it. He never really found
funniness and that, but
he didn't have to. He didn't have to,
but nonetheless, he didn't. No, he did.
He definitely did.
Probably sure the man, though.
That's my man.
Yeah, no, good dude.
But he wouldn't even smoke a joint with us right now and even just sit back.
He would.
No, I don't know, man.
We might have to get him up in here then.
I'll see what I'll see.
He got shows in Vegas, a lot of shows in Vegas.
But look, his mom saw me and instantly put me in the mix of the comedy store.
And I'm like, fucking 16 years old.
Not what you know, but who you know.
Right.
So it's like, wow.
So it's like, so there.
my name got put on the wall.
So the comedy store, you know, that's my house, man.
So I think when, I felt like a dog already before that,
but now it's valid.
My name on the wall at the Comedy Store in Hollywood on Sunset forever.
Like, my name going to be there when I'm gone, you know what I'm saying?
So, you know.
Legendary.
Yeah, just, you know, that I think that's the biggest accomplishment.
I don't got a star in Walker fame, but I'm going to buy one.
I heard that you could sell them.
You can buy them.
So I'm going to buy one.
Don't trip.
I'm going to buy one.
I'm buy my own and shit.
You feel like
Yeah.
But yeah, man.
But yeah.
But yeah, but I just always wanted to be like a
like a rapper,
but a comedian.
Like, because nobody else approached it that way.
Like, Deaf Comedy Jam, they kind of did,
but that's what the era, I was watching Deaf Comedy Jam.
Were you on it?
No, I never was on that.
I did a skit on Deaf Comedy Jam,
but I never did stand up on there.
That's when it came to L.A.,
I think around 97, 98.
and they started shooting Def Camp Jam in LA.
And they were doing like skits in there,
I guess, to fill the time up.
So I was lucky enough with AJ Johnson.
Rest in peace, A.J. Johnson.
Man, why is it a lot of the best,
listen, why is it some of the best,
like it's just some of the people
that then really moved and paved away for black comedy?
Man, them people are gone today, man.
Bernie Mac, rest in peace.
Man, that was one of my favorite, man.
That's Uncle Bernie, man.
You know what I'm saying?
It's just Richard Pride, like just people who have really paved the way, man.
You know, John Witherspoon, man.
We don't lost some of the greats.
Yeah, we didn't lost some of the grades, man.
Yeah, man.
AJ Johnson was a big brother to me, man.
He, like, when I first got to L.A., back to the 96 era, when I first got to L.A., man,
he took care of me, man.
He gave me everything I wanted like a son.
Pussy and everything.
He wanted to fuck her.
Okay, here.
He was going to take some money.
That was the time of money.
motherfuckers was real, though.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, motherfuckers, like, there was no hate in their blood.
Oh, no.
They wanted, because you were the person that would continue to pave the way when they were done.
I'm trying to tell you.
You understand?
He was with, uh, no limit.
Master P.
He was the only nigga down with Master P.
Master P bought him a Benz.
This motherfucker riding five-fitties.
And I'm, man, bro.
It was incredible.
That's incredible.
That's incredible.
I'm trying to tell you, man.
Russ and peace, AJ Johnson, man.
And I'm going to say I got to open my heart and say this, man.
The last time I seen him, we worked right after the pandemic kind of eased up a little bit.
We went to Spokane, watching.
You know, it's a lot of them thing down there.
All right, man, some of the real ones though, mate, when you say them things, mate.
Some of the things.
You know what I'm talking about?
Go ahead.
But we had a big-ass argument, man.
And damn, then I didn't, like, get a chance to make up with him.
So, but I hope that he didn't, I don't know, man, I didn't get a chance to make up with him.
Let it out.
How you know him?
Man.
What do you feel like y'all, y'all fell out on where you couldn't make peace right now where you couldn't let that shit?
Because we was about to get physical with each other.
And, um, and Scroancho, what's something, but a shout out to scruncho, real nigga.
Uh, he broke us up and was like, hey, man, y'all niggas is, hey man, y'all niggas is, his brother.
man you know LA nigger so I'm like all right man and then we didn't like we was on the same
plane when we flew back to LA but we didn't even talk to each other real so it was like damn
so as soon as I heard that I was like damn like all right I called his brother peanut shout to
peanut and I called him and kind of told him what I just told y'all like you know look man me and him
didn't you know what I'm saying what you know what you know what you know I love
I love them though.
I wouldn't hit him or nothing like that because that's my, that's big bro, man.
I ain't gonna disrespect him like that or none like that.
But we fell out though.
We was arguing over some money.
Over some money.
Funny.
Yeah.
Did that change?
Did that change your outlook to what money might look like to you now?
Knowing that you might, you know, you never got to say your peace to somebody like that, you know, y'all up and coming, man.
y'all still moving man comedians nonetheless right well i gave it to him so that's what i do feel
kind of good about that i gave him the money we was arguing about but uh you could genuinely
say that you could lay that one the rest to say that you gave that man whatever the fuck it was i gave
everybody that was there and all that i gave it to them so but it's like uh my mama say this when you
ask me about money my mother always said to me money is for broke people like you know what i'm saying
And if you're a real person, you don't need no money.
I like that.
I'm saying, that's for broke people.
Yeah.
So I always thought I grew up like that, money for broke people.
Like free bands, that's how, it's a lifestyle in L.A.
when you in entertainment so deep that you literally don't have to pay for shit.
You just got to wake up and be there.
As long as you there, that's it.
I can't go no further with that, but yeah, that's real, though.
And we'll leave it.
I'm sure we'll dive.
We'll dive another time.
We'll dive another time.
You know what I'm saying?
Just leave something greater for later.
You know what I'm saying?
Right.
Let's dive in with the problem that, you know what I'm saying,
with Wiling Out and like Nick Cannon.
Like, what's the problem with that, man?
Like, what's going on with you and Wiling Out and Nick Cannon?
I heard they're about to get ready to start a new season.
I've seen rumors.
I don't know if it's true, but I've seen rumors that they say that you might be
you know, coming back
to the mixture.
I mean, I'm just saying
I've seen some bullshit.
I mean, just, I know shit be bullshit.
A lot of people move some shit,
but you know, it's just what I see.
You know, is there any chance to,
what was the problem with you and Nick Cannon
into why you might have, you know,
fell in out and not seen I'd eye.
Well, I'm going to say this.
I don't, me and Nick Cannon never fell out before.
Like, I think media put that out there.
again, that's my brother.
Like, we laugh at stuff.
Like, we see stuff on the internet and be somewhere and laugh at it.
Okay.
You know what was up with the,
what was up with the disc track from Obie Trice?
Okay.
And he had did that,
and he had did that behind Nick Cannon.
I want to know,
like,
because it was an Obitrice disc track from you.
No, no.
To Nick Cannon.
I mean, that's just how I saw intertwined.
No, no, no, no, no.
I want to get some clarification.
Let me clarify that.
Okay, yeah, clarify that.
Okay, so I'm sure the people want to know.
Nick Cannon was trying to,
trying to bait M&M to be on Wiling Out.
So he started attacking him, you know, getting all of the rappers on the show to do a song about him.
You know, they're trying to bait him out.
They're trying to fish them out.
Right.
In the process of that, all Detroit people took offense to that.
So, you know, O'B Trice, you know, down with M&M, of course, he did a disc record.
He did a disc record and named it Spanky Hayes.
So the name of it is my name.
Because when he first called me, I said, did you hear the song?
And I'm like, no, I'm on the set of Wiling Out.
And he calls me and said, did you hear the song?
And I'm like, what song?
And he was like, the Spanky Heads.
I was like, man, you dissing me?
Like, I thought he was dissing me for like being down with Nick Cannon.
So, but no, he was like, no, I'm dissing that motherfucker.
And I just named it.
It's two of them.
It's Spanky Hays, one and two.
I didn't even hear the two.
The two is better than the one.
The two is better than one.
Two is better than one.
It's longer.
It's longer.
But I ain't going to lie when I heard Spakey Hayes saying,
Stop.
I was like, whoa.
When I first heard that shit, I was like, wow.
I was like, wow.
Okay.
So I just did, the player, I just treated like a player, man.
I just went straight up the neck.
We're shooting wilding out right now.
We in Atlanta.
So I go right up to him and like, hey, look at this.
He was like, what's that?
This is funny, right?
I got to say
I know it's my character
in left field, but I like to
run off left field.
Hey, I'm left-headed.
Me too.
There you go.
Me too.
Hey, listen to me.
If Nick Cannon
told you right now,
all right, I let you back on
motherfucking wilding out right now.
Top of the motherfucking chart right now,
we make sure we write all this
just fight me and beat me.
beat my ass and I'll put you to the top
matter of fact you can run the shit
what would you say to that
I'd be like man Nick sit your ass
dog so I wouldn't fight Nick
I love Nick I probably kiss him on the face
if he said that
not in the mouth on the face
on the face like what if you just say
like no y'all still friends
I love him too much y'all listen
y'all still friends
you're brothers we brothers
family right but if he told you like look man
I'll put you to the top of the man, just whoop me out
because I had a problem with you, man.
I had a problem with you.
I just want to get down,
and I want to look at that shit.
What would you say to that?
I mean, if...
He just want to look at it,
and he's just between you and him.
The only way we could do that is if we did it like Rocky 3,
like when he went to Apollo,
and they did it all by themselves,
and it was nobody in the room.
He just never knew it.
It was nobody never saw it.
That's the only way I could fight Nick Cannon.
I love him too much
We have a brother fight
We could never have like a
No other kind of fight
Would you have a pillow fight or something
Yeah you know
Hey hey don't get it fucked up
This nigga would be working out
Every day
Hey listen
This is a six-pack
Yeah bro listen to me man
So I don't want to fight don't do
With those six-pac
I watched them come from skinny
To set it up like a little mini tank
So hey I got nothing but love for him man
You know what I'm saying
Nothing against him
My uncle always said, don't never fight the garbage man.
I mean, the nigga that'd be lipping shit all the time could probably throw your ass a mile away.
I was just saying it was really meaningful.
You get to, you just get to get back on right now.
I'm already old.
I just did a movie with Wesley Snipes, bro.
I was just trying to drag it out of you.
Yeah, that's all right.
Wesley Snipes.
Look, look at, look at.
Wesley Slice.
No, no with the, hey, now with the gap tooth dark night.
You're feeling me.
Listen
Now with the Diff,
Dark Night, man.
Look, we got Wesley,
we got Tiffany Haddish,
we got Kevin Hart,
we got
Bill Bellamy,
we got Gary Owens,
we got Faison Love,
we got...
We haven't seen him in a while.
Pazan bawling, though.
No, Faison been bawling,
because he has.
See, he was a smart dude,
listen to me.
He don't seem like a type of...
Wait, I have to finish.
that. Who? And J.B. Smooth.
J.B. Smooth. Which is one of the
best guys I've ever met
in my entire life. He is the same.
Every time you see him,
it don't matter. J.B. Smooth.
When did you start feeling like that about him? I always
felt that way. We come up together.
They always looking at me like a ghost
because, again, I retired. So when they see
me on the set, they're like,
what the fuck? Like, yeah,
nigga. Yeah, I'm back,
my fuck. Apparently, I
back and it's directed by Chris Spencer who is a Hollywood juggernaut of you know anything about
LA comedy or just comedy period he's written for everybody every TV show every man I can go on
and on and on about this guy man well we're not here to talk about him we're here to talk about
no he put me on he put me back on granted but we're here to talk about you and yeah I have
seen that you've done a lot of writing yourself yeah for a quite a
a few films. Let's dive into some of that.
What's some of the films have you
written for? Like, because I've seen that.
Like, they have labeled you not just as an actor,
comedian, but just as an overall writer.
Right. Well, I wrote a lot
of stuff on Wilden Out.
Like, tons of it. That is
fucking crazy to me that we are getting
this info today. Tons of it.
Mechanic about for this.
Of course. Look, I'm going to give you the blueprint so you can
see it for your own eyes. I don't do no
happen so look so if you look at old wild and out shit that I'm on right now they tried to edit me out
a lot of that shit if you notice that too but you'll see me on Nick side if I'm on Nick side
then me and him is going at it because and that that ain't because he came right it's just because
Nick had 30 other jobs like he was doing this and they're doing this and then coming on our set
And then doing while and out, then going somewhere else.
America Got Talent.
Then he was doing that.
I mean, he was, oh, this dude been working his ass off.
So I'm not in a discredit him.
Right.
But when I would be on the black side, I would be writing for the guests.
You know what I'm saying?
And not every single time, but a lot of, most of the time,
especially in the first five seasons of it,
You know what I'm saying?
That was a lot of work.
That was a hell of a lot of work.
So that was my first complaint with them.
It's like, dude, I'm like,
Draymond Green, shout out.
But I'm like, Draymond Green, you know,
something out.
But I'm like, Draymond,
nonetheless.
No, Jamie Green's the man.
And they brought to.
And Jemond, I love you, man.
Yeah.
But, you know, you're a little bit of a cry baby, man.
Don't try to come, try to put your hands on me.
But you're a little bit of a cry baby, Judge.
And I'll still look at that shit.
Here's a prediction.
The Warriors win the chip again this year.
They got their whole old team back
And they got some new fresh legs
Clay Thompson came back
Stephen Curry came
Nobody deal with Stephen Curry
In this league
Nobody
I don't care
Do you feel like you're Steph Curry right now
Coming back into the comedian
I am still curry
To the comedian
Spotline
I am Steph Curry
I've been doing this though
Yeah you sound like fucking Kanye West
But I am Walt Disney
I am I am Walt Disney I am
Kanye West
Kanye West
I heard this man say I am Walt Disney.
Well, I'm gonna say I'm Vycom.
I'm that, I'm that, I'm the, I'm the, what's that movie?
Where they had all the surrounding motherfuckers were, the Golden Child, motherfucker.
That's who I am.
Remember he was boyhead?
I'm the Golden Child, migger.
You see this?
You see this America?
Africa?
You know, hey.
I'm the Golden Tower, bro.
Are you?
Honestly.
Come on, man.
We all know this.
But I'm back.
I'm back and nothing can stop me now
because now I'm not doing it for myself.
I'm not doing it selfishly anymore.
I'm doing it to feed my wife and my family.
So that's what made it fun again.
I can never do it for me again.
Slink Johnson said the same thing that you said
and I don't know who was before who
but just to hear two comedians say the exact same thing.
He says, man, I do it for my kids.
Like I'm doing it for, you know, a bigger purpose.
It's not for me no more. It's not for you anymore.
Listen, I think that's where the money's going to come into play for y'all.
That's where the dividend's going to come in to play.
Listen, I'm going to say it again.
Me and Slink Johnson, our birthdays are January 31st.
We have the same birthday.
Yeah.
That's my birthday twin right there.
Yeah.
He just mad taller than me.
I'm the short brother.
But that's my dog, Slink.
Like, I remember before he got on and would be coming.
to the comedy store because I was at the comedy store first.
You know, my name was on the wall.
I would see Sling come up and I would be like, bro, that black, that black, that black
Jesus, man, gee, man, that shit, man, that shit can go.
Black Jesus?
No, he definitely did his thing.
But what I'm saying before it got on TV, I'm saying the, the shit that they took off
the internet, the YouTube shit.
Oh, man, that shit was fucking gold.
That shit was gold, bro.
But yeah, shout out to Sleek, man.
He know I love him.
He know that.
Yeah.
Let's dive in
I was looking at your IG
One time
You know, because I follow you
You know, I try to dive into what you got going on
I saw you with
You y'all was in some clown costumes
Yeah, that's the movie
And I ain't gonna lie to you, bro
It kind of looked like some
I ain't know if it was a movie or a series
From fucking American Horror Story
Right
Because I saw a fucking
I saw him
And then I saw a fucking fat clown
And then I saw I don't want to call him a midget
but little people.
Right.
It was little people
in the mix.
That's Lauren.
What's up, Lauren?
Yeah, y'all was all out in the desert,
you know what I'm saying?
What was that about?
Man, what you all are going on?
I think they prefer to be called little people.
That's what I figure.
I don't want to call a midget.
I'm not even sure of that.
Shout out to the little people, man.
Yeah.
I'm one too.
I'm like a tall midget, I guess.
It's a little guy.
So I love y'all.
Don't worry about it.
But, no, that was the movie with
Wesley and Tiffany and all
those guys. And the guy
Spencer.
Are you allowed to talk about that movie?
Yeah, we just shot it. Yeah. What's it called?
It's called Back on the strip.
Back on the strip. Yeah.
So I can't really talk a lot about it because
I don't know all about it
except the parts I was in.
Right. So you know what I'm saying? But I just know
it's going to be funny
as hell. And it was a
total blessing, man. I was like
doing bad because we all do bad.
Like, it don't matter how much jewelry we got on, none of that shit.
We do find ourselves in bad situations.
So I'm praying and like, oh, my God, please.
And then I swear to God, soon as I looked at my phone, Chris Spencer was calling me.
Chris Spencer.
That's the director of this film.
And I'm like, hell, no, he never calls me.
So what's up, man?
Hey, man, you want to do this movie?
Like, what?
Are you serious?
man.
That shit cold.
God is good, man.
I'm going to say that.
We're going to dive into the juicy shit.
Come on, man.
You got into a Tyrese gift.
I did.
And I heard you was having a problem with him,
stating that the actor beat you out of the lead role of baby boy.
Right.
And you said that the actor performed sexual acts on John Singleton,
the director?
No, I never said that.
I mean.
I never said.
push around.
Rest in peace,
John Singleton.
I never spoke on his name.
I hear things push around,
my man.
No,
no,
no.
Actually,
I'm going to fix it.
You say it
and I'm going to fix it.
Yeah,
come on.
So,
okay,
yes,
me and Tauris Gibson
did get into a confrontation.
You told him,
Shug Night fuck this baby mama.
I did.
You said that.
I did say that.
I said a lot of shit.
He said that shit.
So let me go from the beginning.
But making it.
in a fucking tiger fucking fur
he said yeah and my mansion
looked a lot better than his I just want to say that
it was way better
anyway I have motorcycles and shit in my house
but anyway
nevertheless
so I okay so the first part of it
how it all started
was a bad joke
that I said
okay so I said that
because I read for
baby boy when I first came
I came out here. I was younger.
It's crazy to know that.
You actually, like, read for that part.
I actually did.
Not for that part, but I read for Baby Boy.
What part did you read for?
I think it was the homeboy.
It was the home boy.
Oh, okay. Well, Omar Epps played.
Omar Epps played.
It was something like that because...
No, no.
Cuban Jr.
Junior's brother.
Omar.
Omar.
Omar Gooding.
Omar Gooding.
The homie, that's the homie.
Shout out to Omar Goody.
And excuse me.
I'm going to give him his respect because I remember when he was on
Wild and Crazy Kids.
Right. Yeah. He called. I remember that shit.
Wild and Crazy Kids, he was on, man. He was one of
the first hosts to that. So to see Omar
Gooding, you know what I'm saying,
on there, Cuban Gooding Jr.'s little brother,
just giving him his respect. I remember
you. Boy, he was on Nickelodeon. That's where he
started. Yeah. Yeah.
For show. I remember that shit.
And he used to throw the coldest parties on
Venice Beach, man. It was insane.
Who did? Omar.
Omar is Big Brother. No, the little
brother. The little brother. Not
Omar. Yeah, Omar, not Cuba.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you got me all high, and I'm confused now.
But shout out to both of them. We need to be accurate, so I just want to be accurate.
Shout out to Cuba good because you play O.J. Simpson, and I think that's the coldest, I think, that's one of the coldest guys that's living, O.J. Simpson to me is, I don't know. I don't know. He's just dope to me.
Yeah, he's just cold to me. I really like his style. I mean, you know.
But anyway.
Anyway.
So I made a bad joke because, of course, I didn't get the part.
And then this is later.
And then I was doing a podcast called The Spanky Hay Show.
So I got Tiffany Haddish on there.
This is right before she blew up, too, like right before she blew up.
And then I had a couple people.
That little mole on her face is sexy to me.
It is.
She looks.
I like that little mold.
That's my sister.
Tiffany, hey, you see me, baby.
But she looks rich.
I like that little mole if they don't.
I like it.
I'll say this.
Tiffany looks rich now.
That's my sister, so she always looks the same.
She was always rich, man.
As a black sister to the community, man,
she was rich before she got to where she's at.
Me and Tiffany know each other back from the struggle areas.
So we know Cat too, Cat Williams too.
So it's like, so it means something different to me.
Like Cat Williams look real.
I couldn't wait to tell him that.
Nicky, you look rich, nigga.
because, you know, we didn't look rich at one point.
You know what I'm saying?
That was part of other comedians that was on,
can bag on us.
Like, we was funnier than them,
but we had old shoes on,
and them niggas had new shoes on.
So they could cap on this, AJ.
Just shout out to AJ again, rest of peace.
But he was one of those dudes that would stand outside the comedy club
and just cap on your ass as you're going in,
the audience and everybody,
comedians and everybody.
So, you know, yeah, but shout out all the comedians.
That's how I keep getting back to AJ, man.
Love you, AJ.
I love you, I love you.
I did, man.
That was my brother, man.
And he fucked with you.
That was my brother.
That was my brother.
You know, I got a last, you know what I'm saying?
My last question is,
what films you probably got coming up, man?
You know what I'm saying?
Anything you write new or you're writing anything
or are you about to get ready to start?
Anything new?
You got anything coming up, man, 2022.
Is there anything that we can look out for
for Spikey Hayes and it's upcoming?
Everything.
I'm on everything smoking.
I made sure of it.
I got a web series coming out called GTA, Murder City, shot in Detroit, based in Detroit.
I got like three internet films coming out.
Ayesha Khan, shout out to Ayesha Khan, shooting movies in Detroit, making a difference,
turning people, normal people with talent and just making them...
making them, putting them in movies.
I mean, it's incredible.
So I got a couple
of films with him.
You know, I got, like I say,
this back on the strip thing.
Man, everything.
I got comedy album coming out.
Two of them, actually.
One with the other level,
the group I was telling you about
that made Wiling Out.
So created it.
Hey, look, I'm going to bring your ass back
because we're going to really dive into that.
I want you to really crack the egg shell on it just yet
because we wasn't ready for that type of breakfast.
Yeah, I mean, I'm just saying,
this is my first time on no jumper.
I can't give it all to you.
But we're going to crack the egg on that breakfast next time, man.
We're going to make a full-blown omelet out of that motherfucker.
You hear me?
Let's go.
For sure.
I got it for days.
Yeah.
I got it for days.
One love, though.
But I got a lot of stuff that finished that.
I got a lot of stuff coming up.
Just look for me.
I'm back.
It's like, and that's what it is.
Fopok, bitch.
Like, that's it.
It's back on.
It's back on.
One more question before we get you up out of year.
All right.
Is there anything that you regret or something you feel like you should have done to keep you being a successor?
Is there anything that you feel like you could have did better to be something, something greater?
No, no, that's a hard question, but I'll say this.
If I was the same-sex kind of guy,
I would probably be a billionaire
and would never been on the show.
So, you know, I'll just say that.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's all the dice.
Like what you die is like what kind of cards you play?
Like it's all luck at a draw, man.
Like I don't regret shit.
Like I call people, I say what I said.
Like with Tyrese, I felt like, yeah, you're a fact.
But, you know, did I mean?
I don't know him personally.
So he shouldn't have got that mad.
You talk about this.
You talked about his tongue, what, his Lebray Pearson, his little lip piercing.
Come on, man.
You were saying, don't you, no, and I quote you, you said, man, you ain't never knew a real
nigger to wear a piercing in his lip.
Right.
Or in his mouth.
The nigger looked like the 300 million.
Remember the big tall 300, boy head, nigga, the Egyptian nigger.
Like, come on, man.
I think his name was Xerces.
Yeah.
Zerci had all the piercses and shit all up in his face in the 300.
Hey, but look, though, but on some real shit.
Yeah.
all the shit that I'm writing right now,
I'm about to see if Tarrees is being one of these movies, man.
That was a joke.
Why not?
That was a joke to me.
Like, he took it seriously, you know,
by even responding to a comedian.
Like, that was dumbing him to do that.
Right.
So whatever the outcome is.
But you got to remember,
I was retired when I did that.
I did that just to, because my name was just out there.
I didn't give a fuck about doing comedy.
I didn't care about none of that shit.
I was just like, fuck it.
My wife was like, you should do a video.
I was like, all right, fuck it.
I didn't care about that shit.
That shit could have just blew away, bro.
Like seriously.
But, you know, I was just like, I had to find one thing to be mad about.
Like, it couldn't be, he said, I'm following off or this or that.
It had to be one thing.
And when he kept saying, you're a comedian, but you ain't funny.
That would tick me off.
but I had to find one thing to be mad about.
I couldn't be mad at everything.
I had to find one thing to be mad about.
I was like, okay, he said, I ain't funny.
All right, but he's trying to be funny.
All right.
All right.
He must don't know how I'm living right now.
All right.
That shit do be sparking the fire, don't?
Right.
That shit do be sparking the fire.
I'm retired for a reason, dog, so don't come at me right now, but whatever.
So are you, so can you say this because you've been saying, you know,
through our conversation.
You've been saying like,
I'm retired.
Is this the last,
go ahead.
Go ahead.
Fire that shit up.
Go ahead.
Like that shit up.
Go ahead, man.
Yeah.
We don't.
Could you,
because this is live
and this is how we move it?
Yeah.
No jumper.
No jumper.
No jumper.
No jumper.
Is this where you
are retired?
Are you just trying to catch
a last little gasp of this shit?
Or are you trying to come out for real
and make a real push?
Because you know what?
I've seen that.
Mike Epps, he, I'm not going to say he fell off, but he felt dormant for a second.
And then he came out.
Now I'm seeing him do all these shows.
He got all these new clothes.
He got all this new jewelry.
I'm seeing him moving.
He's in the limelight.
He's doing more tours.
Listen, it's no such thing as far as a shout out to Mike Epps.
Me and Mike Epps.
Shout out of Mike Epps.
That's why I brought him up, man.
Good dude.
Seeing him moving.
Look, me and Mike Epps don't see out of eye all the time.
Right.
A lot of times.
98.9%.
of the time.
Me and him don't see how to eye.
Yeah.
But that's my boy.
I love him, though.
Like, it's like, like, I wouldn't say he's my enemy because we all doing comedy.
So it's like, but even if you, your enemy becomes your best friend.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
He's the one that you pay attention to.
He's the one that know you the most.
So, so, but I love him in the same sense.
We just never worked together or nothing like that.
But we used to be like best friends, like best friends.
Like, like, this nigga Mike Epps was sleeping on my couch and he had like,
Like three scripts on the floor, bro.
There's no cap.
You can vouch for this.
No cat.
No couch.
No guy.
Mike Epps.
When he first moved from New York, he came and stayed with me.
Now, this ain't no cap, bro.
I'm telling you, I'm like, well, you want to hear some stories, bro.
But, but again, I love Mike Evers because the time that we spent together and we clicked together, we clicked.
That was my man.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
We used to fight a lot, like, all the time.
fought with my boy Thomas Ward before.
Like, we used to actually fight, like, comedy wars.
The nigga tried to stab me in Atlanta one time at Lavapalooza.
Like, on some real shit.
Like, yeah.
Yeah.
But at the same time, we was young, and we was probably doing cocaine or some shit.
We was fucked up.
You know, we were trying to die like that, too.
You know, I come from the era, you're supposed to die like a soldier.
You know what I'm supposed to die like a soldier.
saying not no wimp so we was going for all of that like type shit but at the end of the day I'm like
that's my man like you know I don't wish no bodily harm or nothing nothing to his family or
nothing I love him I want him to be a billionaire a quadrillionaire all my niggis everybody we name
in this interview I wish they all get a trillion dollars here I couldn't even say it I want it to be
I want so much money you don't even be able to say it right right you feel like I want I won't
black people that have money
and Latino people, man.
We got a black and brown.
Before I know you're trying to get me out of here,
but before I go, I want to say this too.
Take your time.
I think we should change
the Mexican and black thing.
Like, I don't think that we should hate each other
for real like that.
Right.
Like, especially like if you live in California,
anywhere West Coast,
like, you gotta have a Mexican friend.
Like, you damn right.
You gotta have, like it's impossible.
It's impossible.
It's fucking impossible.
You're damn right.
So how can you not, like, I love Mexican people, man.
I love Mexican food.
They're Mexican people.
Hey, I just love Latin people, man.
Afro-Latina, Latina, Latino.
I love all of them, man.
They ain't never did me wrong, man.
They'd be down on the West Coast for a long time now, man.
Shit.
We've been together.
But when we get locked up, though, they got that man.
It's politics.
They got that man saying, hey, all Latinos come over here.
All black people come over here.
over here. All the white people go
over there. I think
we are the same people, man. I don't know.
Mexican girls,
they just look like black girls. They got
booties and everything now, so they're just like black
girls with real hair.
To me, that's all I'm saying.
Listen, man, and I'm not going to knock the sisters.
Never knock the sisters.
You bought it is yours.
I know if you bought it it was yours
and fuck you, motherfucker, I know it looks
good and I know you like it.
I know how it is. Man,
Spanky, I appreciate you for every motherfucking thing, man.
Coming through here, hopefully your ass, come back soon, man,
and we can dive in with the fuck, man.
Any time.
Listen to me, I love you, man.
We'll have fun.
We'll have more fun next time.
So you had to get these questions out.
This is a soft opening.
Yeah, you had to get these questions out.
This is a soft opening.
We are going to definitely come back.
Sharp, Spanky Hayes, no jumper.
Shooting out the motherfucking gym.
Yeah.
