No Jumper - The Sharp Tank 2 with Spanky Hayes: Wild 'n Out, 2pac, Fame & More

Episode Date: November 5, 2021

Sharp sits down with Spanky Hayes to dive in on his come up, his time on Wild N Out and what he has in the works! https://www.instagram.com/tha_sharp_one/ https://www.instagram.com/spankyhayes/ ----- ...NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No jumper. Sharpest podcast in the motherfucking world. Motherfucking. And today I got, you know, it's hard, man, to even introduce you, man, because, you know, I grew up watching you, man. Now I'm interviewing you. I mean, fuck, you are kind of old. I have got a old.
Starting point is 00:00:20 We got a fuck good, though. We got Spanky Hayes in the build, man. Spakey Hayes is a comedian, man. B. What's up with your name being Carl? You Spanish? You black, black Spaniard? Yeah, my dad is a full Cuban, but I don't know.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Your daddy, your daddy, full Cuban. Full Cuban. Like all Cuban. Because I have a name like Carlos, man. Somebody was really either digging in, hey, man, was really thinking outside the box. Or yes, you just come from some type of, you know, Spanish, Latin background. Yes, sir. He black as these headphones right here, too.
Starting point is 00:00:55 That's what so crazy. I see you was born in Detroit. Yes, sir. Detroit, man. What up? Detroit. 86. I had to go pull up.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Yeah, I had to go look. He did that. I had to go look, man. You was born, hey. No, no, because you know what? The only reason I bring that up, man, because, you know, at least people can get kind of like a drift of, you know, what you probably grew up in, man. Shit, you have any trouble, man. How was it for you?
Starting point is 00:01:22 Do you grow up in Detroit or did you live elsewhere? I was born in Detroit. I grew up basically in Detroit. But then I went to Harlem, my grandmother, all my dad's family living in Harlem, Harlem and Brooklyn. Oh, so you're a New York, nigga. Yeah, New York, basically. That's why I asked her girl. I was like, what are you from?
Starting point is 00:01:40 What part of New York are you from? Yeah. But, you know, so Detroit, New York, then Englewood, then Huntington Beach. Now, I'm a white guy. No, you already was living like a white guy Huntington Beach. Right, that's what I'm saying. Now, I'm a white guy. You was living like a white guy Huntington Beach, man.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Now I'm going to try to pimp. I'm in Vegas now. So I'm trying to use my pimp hands. So back to that, when you were coming up as a kid, like where did you spend most your time? Where do you feel like you got most your game from? Probably from L.A., man. Because it was cutting dry.
Starting point is 00:02:13 It was either, nigga, what side you own, nigga, or do you bang or you ain't banging? Or what the fuck you're going over here? Take that hat off, nigga, take that shirt off. You know what I'm saying? That's real life to me. Hey, I'm going to tell you this, right? It came to a point where niggas wasn't even like, you know, where you're from?
Starting point is 00:02:30 They'd be like, all right, well, where your grandma's stay? Right, exactly. Where your grandma's stay? Where you be at? What neighbor? What school did you go to? Right. They started to turn me, I'm saying, you know, people I knew men from San Diego, that's how
Starting point is 00:02:40 they start doing it. They want to just fight you so bad. No doubt. Shout out of San Diego, though. Yeah, man. San Diego Supercharges, man, when they once was, right? You know what I'm saying? San Diego Supercharges.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Hey, what's that beach area right there? Which one? Mission Beach. Mission Beach, Ocean Beach. Ocean Beach. It's a comedy store right there. P.B. What's the name of that?
Starting point is 00:03:01 La Jolla. La Jolla. La Jolla is a nice area. Oh, hell yeah. La J. nice. Yeah, you gotta have your shit strong. What's you doing out there, man?
Starting point is 00:03:09 Hey, the only black guy. I'm O.J. Simpson, baby. Fuck was you doing out there on clean beaches. You feel. With dirty bitches. That's why I ain't there no more. So were you always a funny guy coming up? Or was you, you know, you was in school or some shit?
Starting point is 00:03:24 And, you know, you was cracking jokes? and you know you figured out shit you know i'm a shit i'm a funny guy my mother's just laughing at my shit i tell you what when you find this out like when you felt like you was going to pursue something like this well well like to answer the first part of your question like in school like i would talk so much in school that the teacher would be like well look we're just going to give you the last five minutes of class
Starting point is 00:03:45 and you just come up to the class and just talk man because you won't shut up unless we do that because i would be flunking everybody around me flunking because we're talking you know chopping it up But, you know, I try everything, man, selling drugs, stealing cars. I tried to be a thug nigger. I tried, all of that. Were you good at any of those? Hell no.
Starting point is 00:04:06 I wasn't good at none of that shit. But you know what was crazy? Everybody would say, but, man, you're so funny, man. Why are you doing this shit? Like, it takes a motherfucker. Before you say, it takes a motherfucker to realize when they're just a flat-out horrible criminal. A horrible, I'm still a horrible criminal. I'm a horrible criminal.
Starting point is 00:04:24 That's what I said. I can't even steal. jokes. So I can't, you know, horrible. So I can't, you know, it's just all me. Me or nothing, man. So I tried everything. So, and it just all ended up being comedy.
Starting point is 00:04:36 It's weird, but yeah. So when you was coming up, you just kind of was like, fuck it. I'm just, I'm going to pursue comedy, but I'm going to still try to sell drugs on the side. I'm going to still try to slash, slash, slash. When you said you was going to pick up comedy, did you pick that shit up 100% from from that day forward? I did.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Did you go through all the mistrial? Right. Here's a funny story. So as I'm selling drugs and trying to stop, right, I'm telling all my friends like, yeah, man, I'm going to do comedy, man. I'm about to be like, Eddie Murphy-ass, nigga. They was like laughing at me like, nigga, he's going to be broke. Like, honestly, was Eddie Murphy short like you?
Starting point is 00:05:14 Yeah, he's taller than me, but he's short, though. He's short. He's taller to me, though. He's taller to me. You know what I'm saying? Uncle Ed is tall. But, so, yeah, so basically, I was asking them, like, to help me out still.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Like, nigga, just give me some money still. Nick, you got a million dollars right there. Just give me some money. Nicarg, you ain't going to, nah, nigga. Come to my show. Eddie Murphy. No, I'm talking about selling drugs, trying to stop. To do comedy.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Okay. You know what I'm saying? Because everybody was going to jail and getting fucked up, getting beat up. I wasn't into that shit. So you was asking your people that have some money. Like, man, just come, you know, fuck with me. Like, shit. Put some money up, man.
Starting point is 00:05:49 We can maybe make a move for this. Right. I was like, I could at least be a scapegoat for you one. day. You know what I'm saying? Put some money behind the nigger. You know what I'm saying? Old school game right there. No nothing about that shit. Some of their favorite singers men that have some of the biggest dope dealers
Starting point is 00:06:05 behind them. Funding the campaign. I'm trying to tell you. It's start with Owen. First you owe the niggins, then he'd look out for you. You know what I'm saying? Let's start with the real shit. You know, you got an old drug dealer in this world. You ain't living. Straight up. Did you start doing improv and shit like that at first? Did you
Starting point is 00:06:24 Like the local comedy clubs I seen you did something on You did something on bad boys Yeah Bad boys comedy Some old shit, man You know I mean shit That's where the roots are supposed to start
Starting point is 00:06:37 It's supposed to you know Uplift you So I'm trying to figure out where shit went fucked up for you Where shit went really awry That's why we're here This is what my podcast is based off of So we gotta know that the fucked up shit church Right no we're gonna go into the fucked up shit
Starting point is 00:06:50 So let's go right into the fucked up shit Let's get it I retired for six years, right? And here's the thing about black people, black audiences, not black people, because I don't want to get all fucked up. But black audiences, they never, they won't allow artists to retire and take off for themselves and live for their own life. Like a white actress could be like, well, where you been? Well, I've been taking off and I took my kid, take care of my kids, and I'm married now. But they don't let black people do that.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Like you automatically fell off. If I don't see you in six movies come out and you ain't in none of them, you fell off, nigga. Right. Straight up. That's a black audience. That's the black audience. Right, right, right, right. And then the Tari's thing that happened when I called him gay, I called Tari's gay.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Hold on, hold on. I don't even want to let's keep telling. Let's go back because I want to back the truck up. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's diving in too deep. Right. Just back to just, you know, not being able to not even be in two or three movies. as two movies, as a black actor.
Starting point is 00:07:56 You know, that's got to be a struggle because you're right. You know, it kind of starts to decline a little quicker than, you know, somebody who, you know, Patrick Swayze, rest in peace, or somebody who just got a big name. You know what I'm saying? Tom Hanks. Tom Hanks could go off and not work for 10 years. Right. He'd come back, they're going to celebrate.
Starting point is 00:08:18 They're going to throw concerts and parades. Well, all his movies, well, you have to understand some about Tom Hanks. All his movies, which, hey, man, was one of the greatest actors of all time. But you have to understand, even with him, he cannot have to drop a movie for 20 years. And every one of his movies that he ever dropped were legendary. You know what I'm saying? They're still eating today. Channels and different places are still buying that.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Of course. You know what I'm saying? Push that out to viewers. Forrest Gump. That's going to push for years. That's never going to go off TV. It's not going anywhere. Nowhere.
Starting point is 00:08:48 That's like the Jeffersons or Martin or something. Forrest Gung. But back to. the black entertainment. Yeah. Let's dive into that. What do you think? Give me your feel. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:09:02 So I just feel like okay, first of all, I never fell off, motherfuckers. Like, I still got everything I ever had. I still got all that shit. Nothing never went wrong for me. It's just that I don't know if I should say this, but I just feel like you get to
Starting point is 00:09:20 a point in Hollywood or in show business that it's not about talent anymore. It's about who you know and who fuck with you, you know, who fucked you, who in both ways. And it's not about talent anymore. So here's another story. So I go to this audition and in the breakdowns, it says a spanky Hayes type, right? I can get all into it, but it says spanky Hayes type. So I go to the audition.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Every agency in how. Hollywood is calling me. I'm thinking, oh, I must have blew back up. I'm already on TV. What does this mean? Like, what is this pertain to? Like, I'm just telling you how
Starting point is 00:10:01 this could be all fucked up. It's not about telling them more. So, okay, so back to the story. So, Smaky Hayes' character type. Smicky Hayes type. I go to the audition. About eight times I go to the audition. Finally, I get fed up and say, look,
Starting point is 00:10:17 uh, what's up? It says Spanky Hayes in the breakdown. The lady said, you know, we don't necessarily want Spanky Hays. We want a Spanky Hays type. And I'm like, what? So, again, it's not about talent. It's about who you know and who you deal with.
Starting point is 00:10:38 It's not about being the funniest. It's not being the, I was going to say, the sharpest. It's not being the wittiest. Sharpest podcast in the world. It's not about none of that. It's about who knows you. I got the deal. these my friends, I'm putting my friends on.
Starting point is 00:10:55 I might audition for two roles. Other than that, I got every friend that can fill this roll up. So I wasn't on nobody's team. I wasn't a part of no clique or nothing. It was just me, like Tupac. I'm just out here. Is that why you call yourself Four Pock?
Starting point is 00:11:09 I call myself Four Pock because I'm the fat Tupac. So that's two more Pock's than Pock. Four Pock, the fat Pock. You understand me. But yeah, man, that's some real shit. Like people don't understand Like it's not really about Like everybody try to be the funniest
Starting point is 00:11:26 Everybody try to It's not about that It's about Like for instance right now You got your shot at a podcast Who did you call me? Why? Because you know me
Starting point is 00:11:36 You know my number You know how to get in touch with me That's what Hollywood is about That's how all these people Who work for this beautiful podcast They all got their jobs Somebody knows somebody Who knew somebody
Starting point is 00:11:47 Right That's what Hollywood is Right He knows my homie got the lights My homie got the girls. My homie, you know what I'm saying? Right. That's what, that's production.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Open up on the streets. Come on, man. That's what it is. So that's what it is. So, you know what I'm saying? So once I learned that I wasted my whole 20s, you know what I'm saying, to be the funniest motherfucker in the world. And it didn't amount the shit.
Starting point is 00:12:13 It kind of depressed me in a sense. Well, I'm sure there's things that you went through that nobody will ever know. Exactly. You know, I'll say this. I've talked to Slink Johnson. I've talked to me and I've got the same birthday. I've talked to you. Y'all are good brothers.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Listen to me. I've talked to you both and I've noticed like y'all are starving comedians. Yeah. You're always looking for the dollar. Y'all don't get the same type of treatment as if somebody else. And I guess I don't want to put names to it. No, that's okay. I don't want to get, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:12:50 but just certain people, you know, that they will give shots to, but they will not give you or give slink. Because I've asked slink, you know, I've asked slink a lot of the same questions. I'm like, man, bro, why the fuck did they put you on this or on that, you know? He always told me. He always kept it humble as not only a black comedian, but as just a black man. He always said, you know, just wasn't my time, loved one. Just wasn't my time, you know.
Starting point is 00:13:20 Because it's time. It's time. It's only one slot. Let me tell you. I was right behind it. I saw everything. It's one slot. We're going to go on Mike Epps.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Mike Epps was the man. And then they put Kevin Hart there. The first Kevin Hart, the one who couldn't sell. The soul playing Kevin Hart, if you will, that era of Kevin Hart. You feel like he's changed. Hell yeah. Because listen, then they took him out and put Kat there. Cat, they couldn't control Kat.
Starting point is 00:13:49 they gave him all the money all the whatever they couldn't control them they took him down and put kevin back think about what i said kevin was willing to listen whatever he was willing to give and that's not we're not we're not putting allegations on yeah that's my man yeah that's my love for kevin heart you know nobody's putting allegations on him or saying that he's done anything faulty but there's a reason no it's a line it's a line he's a line he's they put him back in the front of the line. Yeah. That's all it was.
Starting point is 00:14:22 It was me, Corey, D. Ray, Atheon. D. Ray was a funny mo' fun. Yeah, D. Ray, that's my cousin. You remind me in him in a way. We always in line. But those were the people in front of us was Mike Epps, Cat Williams, and Kevin Hart.
Starting point is 00:14:40 They was already in front. Because the first episode of Wilding out, we noticed the crowd saying, money, Mike, money, Mike. And I thought to myself, damn, he's famous already. He was calling that money, Mike, Mike? No, they was calling Kat Williams that.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Remember he was... Money Mike. Money Mike in the movie. Yeah, it was in the movie. He was in a Friday after next, right? So I was thinking, damn, he's famous already. So I'm saying that to say, Kat Williams was in line before me.
Starting point is 00:15:05 You know what I'm saying? It's a line. People, it's a line. We don't, we don't see it. Y'all don't see it in entertainers, try to act like it ain't there. But it's definitely a line. Well, let's go back to where you were,
Starting point is 00:15:18 because I read about I went and I read about you you know what I'm saying like because I always liked your style I never thought that I had to go you know do a little bit of research and figure out who you are okay to what you got going on for real you know and to see you go from making $27,000 an episode yeah to $1,000 in episode per per cat Williams cat Williams coming in and making $50,000 on episode yeah how did you like how did that make you feel honestly like Like somebody who's been there to build a fucking, just a foundation and just, you know, pioneer the game of what Wiling Out possibly would have been. How did that make you feel, man, getting dropped and just depleted like that? It was weird, man. It was really weird. But I had to face it. I had to go through it to, like, grow from it.
Starting point is 00:16:10 But it was a lot of shady shit going on with Wiling Out, man, because I knew the blueprint of it. See, Nick Cannon got this whole thing. thing whaling out from me. Like, I was in this group. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah. Let's back the fucking truck up.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Yeah. We were rolling. Yeah. But then, you know, I've seen a roadblock. So you're telling me. Yes. You're telling me. I'm telling everybody.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Okay. You're telling everybody. You know, no jumper. No jumper. I can't. Sharpest podcast in the world. He's telling, you're telling all of us that Nick Cannon got the idea from you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:47 to even do whaling out. Exactly. It was a group called the other level. We had to deal with... This is exclusive, right? This is not... Yeah, this is very exclusive. Nobody's ever gotten this from anybody?
Starting point is 00:17:01 Okay? I'm just making sure. I'm just making sure like this is something that's accurate, like something... Yeah, look it up. Nobody's heard. Nobody's heard this before we're going to get exclusive and we're going to dig deep.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Let's go. Continue. Okay, so 2000, the Aspen HBO comedy festival a group called The Other Level
Starting point is 00:17:23 from Detroit myself Joe Blunt Thomas Ward and Howie Bell Andre McCoy I like Howie Bell Howie Bell Funny Man
Starting point is 00:17:32 That's my baby That's my baby Yeah funny man So We all go We all catch the train The bus However we get to
Starting point is 00:17:41 LA from Detroit And we all got this group We all started in Detroit and then we get a deal with Will Smith Nick Cannon gets a deal with Will Smith We are friends anyway By the way Nick Cannon
Starting point is 00:17:55 So It's because you're hitting points And I just want to get it out So you're telling me that Maybe Will Smith might have funded a lot of this Bringing up his name Because I mean he has moved through the industry If you know
Starting point is 00:18:09 Just even trying to be a comedian Whether it's just even having a fresh Prince of Bel Air Well I think it was more of a business deal for him and I don't think it was nothing personal. He don't know me personally so I don't take that personal with Will Smith if he had anything to do with it, it was
Starting point is 00:18:24 just business, I'm sure. So, but his deal go bad, our deal go bad, Nick Kennedy used to come to my house, okay, so he used to dance on Soul Train. So when he didn't, when they didn't...
Starting point is 00:18:41 Nick Cannon danced on Soul Train. Yeah, so when they don't pick you, like it's a picking system, Soul Train, if you know about Soul Train. They make everybody wait outside and they pick people to go in. I didn't know that. Yeah. So when he didn't get picked to go in, that's how I'm sure he met Afeon, too, I'm sure, because Aphion used to dance on Soul Train.
Starting point is 00:19:00 So when he didn't get picked, he would come to my house in Englewood in the jungles, and we would kick it and talk man shit. But he was younger. He was younger than me, but, you know, like we schooled Nick Cannon, all of us. you know what I'm saying but that's my boy I'm not saying this in no negative type of way this is family like I know every brother Nick Cannon got I know Nick Cannon mother you know what I'm saying I know Nick Cannon that's my brother you know people they uh you know being from Daggar I know few people you should go to school with him out there exactly so continue so you know what I'm saying so in no negative way I'm saying anything about Nick Cannon that's my boy uh it's just you know business man and and I didn't know that growing up and then I'll tell you one more thing uh Sharp And I'm going to say this to everybody. When I was trying to be famous, I didn't have no money.
Starting point is 00:19:50 The minute I didn't care about being famous no more, I was rich. So that's my thing to everybody is. Break that philosophy down just a little, just break down the true meaning. Because I heard what you said, but maybe the viewers might not have caught. Like, just break that down when you didn't care about being famous anymore. Right. So fame is free. That's why they give it.
Starting point is 00:20:13 Anybody can have. fame. You rarely ever hear rich and famous, whoever his name is, or whoever she is. Because you normally don't get both of them at the same time. You know what I'm saying? The rich and famous. So the famous is free. That's why it's free.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Fame, free. It's like kind of rhymes. But once you don't care about being famous, then you get money. So, okay, so like we in a group right now, all of us in this room, we all in a singing group, folk music. music, whatever we do. They're going to come to us with a fame deal, and they're going to come to us with the money deal.
Starting point is 00:20:50 The money deal going to be lower because it's just money. And then we got to promote ourselves, and we got to take the money out of this and pay for our own promotion and marketing and stuff like that, so it ain't going to be appealing. But this deal going to be like, oh, we're going to put you on every platform. We're going to do this for you, and we're going to do that, and everyone's going to see you, everyone's going to know you.
Starting point is 00:21:10 That's all free. To you. you don't get no money off being famous not unless you work in the Instagram and everything but that's kind of fake famous that's like Insta famous like you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:21:23 Instagram created that Yeah you know what I'm saying So it's like They Instagram made it so anybody could be famous Right So it's like any motherfucker in the world Can wake up in the morning
Starting point is 00:21:34 and say I'm about to do this on Instagram and they fucking famous Do they get money for that? No Do they life change? A little because maybe they got more followers and maybe somebody on the bus stop and notice them,
Starting point is 00:21:47 nigga, you funny, but they don't change nothing for their pocket. It's just fame. I get that because, you know, I go to the liquor store anymore. You know, motherfuckers have run into me and they'd be like, sharp, sharp, sharp, you know, getting, sharp, I know you,
Starting point is 00:22:01 I know you, I'll watch your shit. That don't put any dollars in the pockets. It's just what they've seen. It's just fan. So I understand what you're saying. Yeah. For real. So for a long time, I only cared about being famous.
Starting point is 00:22:16 I moved to New York to L.A. to be famous. I didn't know that I was going to be rich. When you moved to L.A. 96. Yeah. September 3rd. Park was still alive, right? I seen Pock the first day I moved to L.A.
Starting point is 00:22:31 And then he died about maybe five days, four days after that. Yeah. Yeah. I even seen him the night he died in Vegas, but he was walking around. around pacing so hard, I was like, man, I ain't gonna go say hi to that motherfucker. You know, I think if Park was still around today, I think he'd even say like he was probably caught up too much into what other motherfuckers thought about him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Instead of just moving and just making his, because he was making it. He was somebody who, he was Tupac. He was one of the greatest of all time. He died a gangbanger. He didn't die Tupac, the greatest rapper. He died of gangbanger. He died of gangmen. No disrespect to gang people.
Starting point is 00:23:12 none of that. But Tupac was not a gang member. He came and signed a record deal that made him a gang member. So that's just my opinion. Would you say that's when the Takashi 6-9s was born? And I'm not saying that Pock was a snitch. I'm not saying none of that. I'm saying, do you say that's when like that he could be bought on?
Starting point is 00:23:34 Yeah. Bought on. He was the first troller. He was the first like troller. If they had Instagram when Pock was living, oh my God. Oh my God He probably wouldn't have got killed Somebody would have been fucking online
Starting point is 00:23:48 Showing him So yeah He was the first trolling guy To me But that dude was dope though He was dope too Puck forever You moving around Where was the first
Starting point is 00:24:00 headlining spots You felt like you landed That might have set your career I did Before it fucked up And might have Did it's do for you for a second.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Because it did, love one. It did. I don't feel that way, though. It did. No, just for it split second. Just for it split second. But it's not about when it fell off. It's about you getting back on. That's what matters. So let's get
Starting point is 00:24:27 past the nasty shit. Right. I want you to accept this. You told me I can ask you and talk to you. Anything. Anything. Anything. Anything. So let's get past that point that it brought a greater you. Yeah. Well, what did that was I got married.
Starting point is 00:24:41 and I got two daughters, and I had to focus on something else besides myself. Again, I think that's really got me where I didn't care about being famous because I ain't want anybody hollying at me when I'm with my family. Let's take your Instagram picture. Fuck all that.
Starting point is 00:24:57 I hate that shit. But, you know, you got to do it to be relevant nowadays. You know what I'm saying? So, but yeah, but okay, I'll take that falling off. But again, that goes into that audience. What I said earlier is like, Like the black audience will not allow you to take off. I think that's unfair.
Starting point is 00:25:19 First place you felt like you took off from. I took off when I started, when I knew I was funny, my own funny. And I wasn't like nobody else, because that's the compliments I was getting. It's like, dude, I laugh different at you. Like, you're real, like the real. When I start feeling real, like, okay. And then when I moved to L.A., I went up at the comedy store
Starting point is 00:25:43 and the owner of the comedy store Missy Shore, rest in peace. By the way, that's Pauly Shore's mom. Rest of peace, Pauli Shore's mom. For real, man. Yeah, yeah, that's like my mom. He was a funny man, square nonetheless. I watched him. He never wanted
Starting point is 00:25:59 be in the riffraff. He was just a funny man. He never crossed over to black comedy to it. He never really found funniness and that, but he didn't have to. He didn't have to, but nonetheless, he didn't. No, he did. He definitely did. Probably sure the man, though.
Starting point is 00:26:13 That's my man. Yeah, no, good dude. But he wouldn't even smoke a joint with us right now and even just sit back. He would. No, I don't know, man. We might have to get him up in here then. I'll see what I'll see. He got shows in Vegas, a lot of shows in Vegas.
Starting point is 00:26:27 But look, his mom saw me and instantly put me in the mix of the comedy store. And I'm like, fucking 16 years old. Not what you know, but who you know. Right. So it's like, wow. So it's like, so there. my name got put on the wall. So the comedy store, you know, that's my house, man.
Starting point is 00:26:45 So I think when, I felt like a dog already before that, but now it's valid. My name on the wall at the Comedy Store in Hollywood on Sunset forever. Like, my name going to be there when I'm gone, you know what I'm saying? So, you know. Legendary. Yeah, just, you know, that I think that's the biggest accomplishment. I don't got a star in Walker fame, but I'm going to buy one.
Starting point is 00:27:05 I heard that you could sell them. You can buy them. So I'm going to buy one. Don't trip. I'm going to buy one. I'm buy my own and shit. You feel like Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:15 But yeah, man. But yeah. But yeah, but I just always wanted to be like a like a rapper, but a comedian. Like, because nobody else approached it that way. Like, Deaf Comedy Jam, they kind of did, but that's what the era, I was watching Deaf Comedy Jam.
Starting point is 00:27:31 Were you on it? No, I never was on that. I did a skit on Deaf Comedy Jam, but I never did stand up on there. That's when it came to L.A., I think around 97, 98. and they started shooting Def Camp Jam in LA. And they were doing like skits in there,
Starting point is 00:27:46 I guess, to fill the time up. So I was lucky enough with AJ Johnson. Rest in peace, A.J. Johnson. Man, why is it a lot of the best, listen, why is it some of the best, like it's just some of the people that then really moved and paved away for black comedy? Man, them people are gone today, man.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Bernie Mac, rest in peace. Man, that was one of my favorite, man. That's Uncle Bernie, man. You know what I'm saying? It's just Richard Pride, like just people who have really paved the way, man. You know, John Witherspoon, man. We don't lost some of the greats. Yeah, we didn't lost some of the grades, man.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Yeah, man. AJ Johnson was a big brother to me, man. He, like, when I first got to L.A., back to the 96 era, when I first got to L.A., man, he took care of me, man. He gave me everything I wanted like a son. Pussy and everything. He wanted to fuck her. Okay, here.
Starting point is 00:28:39 He was going to take some money. That was the time of money. motherfuckers was real, though. Yeah, yeah. Like, motherfuckers, like, there was no hate in their blood. Oh, no. They wanted, because you were the person that would continue to pave the way when they were done. I'm trying to tell you.
Starting point is 00:28:52 You understand? He was with, uh, no limit. Master P. He was the only nigga down with Master P. Master P bought him a Benz. This motherfucker riding five-fitties. And I'm, man, bro. It was incredible.
Starting point is 00:29:04 That's incredible. That's incredible. I'm trying to tell you, man. Russ and peace, AJ Johnson, man. And I'm going to say I got to open my heart and say this, man. The last time I seen him, we worked right after the pandemic kind of eased up a little bit. We went to Spokane, watching. You know, it's a lot of them thing down there.
Starting point is 00:29:25 All right, man, some of the real ones though, mate, when you say them things, mate. Some of the things. You know what I'm talking about? Go ahead. But we had a big-ass argument, man. And damn, then I didn't, like, get a chance to make up with him. So, but I hope that he didn't, I don't know, man, I didn't get a chance to make up with him. Let it out.
Starting point is 00:29:47 How you know him? Man. What do you feel like y'all, y'all fell out on where you couldn't make peace right now where you couldn't let that shit? Because we was about to get physical with each other. And, um, and Scroancho, what's something, but a shout out to scruncho, real nigga. Uh, he broke us up and was like, hey, man, y'all niggas is, hey man, y'all niggas is, his brother. man you know LA nigger so I'm like all right man and then we didn't like we was on the same plane when we flew back to LA but we didn't even talk to each other real so it was like damn
Starting point is 00:30:23 so as soon as I heard that I was like damn like all right I called his brother peanut shout to peanut and I called him and kind of told him what I just told y'all like you know look man me and him didn't you know what I'm saying what you know what you know what you know I love I love them though. I wouldn't hit him or nothing like that because that's my, that's big bro, man. I ain't gonna disrespect him like that or none like that. But we fell out though. We was arguing over some money.
Starting point is 00:30:51 Over some money. Funny. Yeah. Did that change? Did that change your outlook to what money might look like to you now? Knowing that you might, you know, you never got to say your peace to somebody like that, you know, y'all up and coming, man. y'all still moving man comedians nonetheless right well i gave it to him so that's what i do feel kind of good about that i gave him the money we was arguing about but uh you could genuinely
Starting point is 00:31:22 say that you could lay that one the rest to say that you gave that man whatever the fuck it was i gave everybody that was there and all that i gave it to them so but it's like uh my mama say this when you ask me about money my mother always said to me money is for broke people like you know what i'm saying And if you're a real person, you don't need no money. I like that. I'm saying, that's for broke people. Yeah. So I always thought I grew up like that, money for broke people.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Like free bands, that's how, it's a lifestyle in L.A. when you in entertainment so deep that you literally don't have to pay for shit. You just got to wake up and be there. As long as you there, that's it. I can't go no further with that, but yeah, that's real, though. And we'll leave it. I'm sure we'll dive. We'll dive another time.
Starting point is 00:32:12 We'll dive another time. You know what I'm saying? Just leave something greater for later. You know what I'm saying? Right. Let's dive in with the problem that, you know what I'm saying, with Wiling Out and like Nick Cannon. Like, what's the problem with that, man?
Starting point is 00:32:26 Like, what's going on with you and Wiling Out and Nick Cannon? I heard they're about to get ready to start a new season. I've seen rumors. I don't know if it's true, but I've seen rumors that they say that you might be you know, coming back to the mixture. I mean, I'm just saying I've seen some bullshit.
Starting point is 00:32:41 I mean, just, I know shit be bullshit. A lot of people move some shit, but you know, it's just what I see. You know, is there any chance to, what was the problem with you and Nick Cannon into why you might have, you know, fell in out and not seen I'd eye. Well, I'm going to say this.
Starting point is 00:33:00 I don't, me and Nick Cannon never fell out before. Like, I think media put that out there. again, that's my brother. Like, we laugh at stuff. Like, we see stuff on the internet and be somewhere and laugh at it. Okay. You know what was up with the, what was up with the disc track from Obie Trice?
Starting point is 00:33:18 Okay. And he had did that, and he had did that behind Nick Cannon. I want to know, like, because it was an Obitrice disc track from you. No, no. To Nick Cannon.
Starting point is 00:33:27 I mean, that's just how I saw intertwined. No, no, no, no, no. I want to get some clarification. Let me clarify that. Okay, yeah, clarify that. Okay, so I'm sure the people want to know. Nick Cannon was trying to, trying to bait M&M to be on Wiling Out.
Starting point is 00:33:39 So he started attacking him, you know, getting all of the rappers on the show to do a song about him. You know, they're trying to bait him out. They're trying to fish them out. Right. In the process of that, all Detroit people took offense to that. So, you know, O'B Trice, you know, down with M&M, of course, he did a disc record. He did a disc record and named it Spanky Hayes. So the name of it is my name.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Because when he first called me, I said, did you hear the song? And I'm like, no, I'm on the set of Wiling Out. And he calls me and said, did you hear the song? And I'm like, what song? And he was like, the Spanky Heads. I was like, man, you dissing me? Like, I thought he was dissing me for like being down with Nick Cannon. So, but no, he was like, no, I'm dissing that motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:34:26 And I just named it. It's two of them. It's Spanky Hays, one and two. I didn't even hear the two. The two is better than the one. The two is better than one. Two is better than one. It's longer.
Starting point is 00:34:39 It's longer. But I ain't going to lie when I heard Spakey Hayes saying, Stop. I was like, whoa. When I first heard that shit, I was like, wow. I was like, wow. Okay. So I just did, the player, I just treated like a player, man.
Starting point is 00:34:56 I just went straight up the neck. We're shooting wilding out right now. We in Atlanta. So I go right up to him and like, hey, look at this. He was like, what's that? This is funny, right? I got to say I know it's my character
Starting point is 00:35:12 in left field, but I like to run off left field. Hey, I'm left-headed. Me too. There you go. Me too. Hey, listen to me. If Nick Cannon
Starting point is 00:35:23 told you right now, all right, I let you back on motherfucking wilding out right now. Top of the motherfucking chart right now, we make sure we write all this just fight me and beat me. beat my ass and I'll put you to the top matter of fact you can run the shit
Starting point is 00:35:39 what would you say to that I'd be like man Nick sit your ass dog so I wouldn't fight Nick I love Nick I probably kiss him on the face if he said that not in the mouth on the face on the face like what if you just say like no y'all still friends
Starting point is 00:35:57 I love him too much y'all listen y'all still friends you're brothers we brothers family right but if he told you like look man I'll put you to the top of the man, just whoop me out because I had a problem with you, man. I had a problem with you. I just want to get down,
Starting point is 00:36:11 and I want to look at that shit. What would you say to that? I mean, if... He just want to look at it, and he's just between you and him. The only way we could do that is if we did it like Rocky 3, like when he went to Apollo, and they did it all by themselves,
Starting point is 00:36:27 and it was nobody in the room. He just never knew it. It was nobody never saw it. That's the only way I could fight Nick Cannon. I love him too much We have a brother fight We could never have like a No other kind of fight
Starting point is 00:36:41 Would you have a pillow fight or something Yeah you know Hey hey don't get it fucked up This nigga would be working out Every day Hey listen This is a six-pack Yeah bro listen to me man
Starting point is 00:36:54 So I don't want to fight don't do With those six-pac I watched them come from skinny To set it up like a little mini tank So hey I got nothing but love for him man You know what I'm saying Nothing against him My uncle always said, don't never fight the garbage man.
Starting point is 00:37:07 I mean, the nigga that'd be lipping shit all the time could probably throw your ass a mile away. I was just saying it was really meaningful. You get to, you just get to get back on right now. I'm already old. I just did a movie with Wesley Snipes, bro. I was just trying to drag it out of you. Yeah, that's all right. Wesley Snipes.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Look, look at, look at. Wesley Slice. No, no with the, hey, now with the gap tooth dark night. You're feeling me. Listen Now with the Diff, Dark Night, man. Look, we got Wesley,
Starting point is 00:37:37 we got Tiffany Haddish, we got Kevin Hart, we got Bill Bellamy, we got Gary Owens, we got Faison Love, we got... We haven't seen him in a while.
Starting point is 00:37:53 Pazan bawling, though. No, Faison been bawling, because he has. See, he was a smart dude, listen to me. He don't seem like a type of... Wait, I have to finish. that. Who? And J.B. Smooth.
Starting point is 00:38:04 J.B. Smooth. Which is one of the best guys I've ever met in my entire life. He is the same. Every time you see him, it don't matter. J.B. Smooth. When did you start feeling like that about him? I always felt that way. We come up together. They always looking at me like a ghost
Starting point is 00:38:22 because, again, I retired. So when they see me on the set, they're like, what the fuck? Like, yeah, nigga. Yeah, I'm back, my fuck. Apparently, I back and it's directed by Chris Spencer who is a Hollywood juggernaut of you know anything about LA comedy or just comedy period he's written for everybody every TV show every man I can go on and on and on about this guy man well we're not here to talk about him we're here to talk about
Starting point is 00:38:53 no he put me on he put me back on granted but we're here to talk about you and yeah I have seen that you've done a lot of writing yourself yeah for a quite a a few films. Let's dive into some of that. What's some of the films have you written for? Like, because I've seen that. Like, they have labeled you not just as an actor, comedian, but just as an overall writer. Right. Well, I wrote a lot
Starting point is 00:39:16 of stuff on Wilden Out. Like, tons of it. That is fucking crazy to me that we are getting this info today. Tons of it. Mechanic about for this. Of course. Look, I'm going to give you the blueprint so you can see it for your own eyes. I don't do no happen so look so if you look at old wild and out shit that I'm on right now they tried to edit me out
Starting point is 00:39:39 a lot of that shit if you notice that too but you'll see me on Nick side if I'm on Nick side then me and him is going at it because and that that ain't because he came right it's just because Nick had 30 other jobs like he was doing this and they're doing this and then coming on our set And then doing while and out, then going somewhere else. America Got Talent. Then he was doing that. I mean, he was, oh, this dude been working his ass off. So I'm not in a discredit him.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Right. But when I would be on the black side, I would be writing for the guests. You know what I'm saying? And not every single time, but a lot of, most of the time, especially in the first five seasons of it, You know what I'm saying? That was a lot of work. That was a hell of a lot of work.
Starting point is 00:40:33 So that was my first complaint with them. It's like, dude, I'm like, Draymond Green, shout out. But I'm like, Draymond Green, you know, something out. But I'm like, Draymond, nonetheless. No, Jamie Green's the man.
Starting point is 00:40:43 And they brought to. And Jemond, I love you, man. Yeah. But, you know, you're a little bit of a cry baby, man. Don't try to come, try to put your hands on me. But you're a little bit of a cry baby, Judge. And I'll still look at that shit. Here's a prediction.
Starting point is 00:40:56 The Warriors win the chip again this year. They got their whole old team back And they got some new fresh legs Clay Thompson came back Stephen Curry came Nobody deal with Stephen Curry In this league Nobody
Starting point is 00:41:11 I don't care Do you feel like you're Steph Curry right now Coming back into the comedian I am still curry To the comedian Spotline I am Steph Curry I've been doing this though
Starting point is 00:41:21 Yeah you sound like fucking Kanye West But I am Walt Disney I am I am Walt Disney I am Kanye West Kanye West I heard this man say I am Walt Disney. Well, I'm gonna say I'm Vycom. I'm that, I'm that, I'm the, I'm the, what's that movie?
Starting point is 00:41:38 Where they had all the surrounding motherfuckers were, the Golden Child, motherfucker. That's who I am. Remember he was boyhead? I'm the Golden Child, migger. You see this? You see this America? Africa? You know, hey.
Starting point is 00:41:55 I'm the Golden Tower, bro. Are you? Honestly. Come on, man. We all know this. But I'm back. I'm back and nothing can stop me now because now I'm not doing it for myself.
Starting point is 00:42:07 I'm not doing it selfishly anymore. I'm doing it to feed my wife and my family. So that's what made it fun again. I can never do it for me again. Slink Johnson said the same thing that you said and I don't know who was before who but just to hear two comedians say the exact same thing. He says, man, I do it for my kids.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Like I'm doing it for, you know, a bigger purpose. It's not for me no more. It's not for you anymore. Listen, I think that's where the money's going to come into play for y'all. That's where the dividend's going to come in to play. Listen, I'm going to say it again. Me and Slink Johnson, our birthdays are January 31st. We have the same birthday. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:44 That's my birthday twin right there. Yeah. He just mad taller than me. I'm the short brother. But that's my dog, Slink. Like, I remember before he got on and would be coming. to the comedy store because I was at the comedy store first. You know, my name was on the wall.
Starting point is 00:43:02 I would see Sling come up and I would be like, bro, that black, that black, that black Jesus, man, gee, man, that shit, man, that shit can go. Black Jesus? No, he definitely did his thing. But what I'm saying before it got on TV, I'm saying the, the shit that they took off the internet, the YouTube shit. Oh, man, that shit was fucking gold. That shit was gold, bro.
Starting point is 00:43:23 But yeah, shout out to Sleek, man. He know I love him. He know that. Yeah. Let's dive in I was looking at your IG One time You know, because I follow you
Starting point is 00:43:33 You know, I try to dive into what you got going on I saw you with You y'all was in some clown costumes Yeah, that's the movie And I ain't gonna lie to you, bro It kind of looked like some I ain't know if it was a movie or a series From fucking American Horror Story
Starting point is 00:43:49 Right Because I saw a fucking I saw him And then I saw a fucking fat clown And then I saw I don't want to call him a midget but little people. Right. It was little people
Starting point is 00:43:58 in the mix. That's Lauren. What's up, Lauren? Yeah, y'all was all out in the desert, you know what I'm saying? What was that about? Man, what you all are going on? I think they prefer to be called little people.
Starting point is 00:44:09 That's what I figure. I don't want to call a midget. I'm not even sure of that. Shout out to the little people, man. Yeah. I'm one too. I'm like a tall midget, I guess. It's a little guy.
Starting point is 00:44:20 So I love y'all. Don't worry about it. But, no, that was the movie with Wesley and Tiffany and all those guys. And the guy Spencer. Are you allowed to talk about that movie? Yeah, we just shot it. Yeah. What's it called?
Starting point is 00:44:36 It's called Back on the strip. Back on the strip. Yeah. So I can't really talk a lot about it because I don't know all about it except the parts I was in. Right. So you know what I'm saying? But I just know it's going to be funny as hell. And it was a
Starting point is 00:44:51 total blessing, man. I was like doing bad because we all do bad. Like, it don't matter how much jewelry we got on, none of that shit. We do find ourselves in bad situations. So I'm praying and like, oh, my God, please. And then I swear to God, soon as I looked at my phone, Chris Spencer was calling me. Chris Spencer. That's the director of this film.
Starting point is 00:45:16 And I'm like, hell, no, he never calls me. So what's up, man? Hey, man, you want to do this movie? Like, what? Are you serious? man. That shit cold. God is good, man.
Starting point is 00:45:28 I'm going to say that. We're going to dive into the juicy shit. Come on, man. You got into a Tyrese gift. I did. And I heard you was having a problem with him, stating that the actor beat you out of the lead role of baby boy. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:44 And you said that the actor performed sexual acts on John Singleton, the director? No, I never said that. I mean. I never said. push around. Rest in peace, John Singleton.
Starting point is 00:45:57 I never spoke on his name. I hear things push around, my man. No, no, no. Actually, I'm going to fix it.
Starting point is 00:46:04 You say it and I'm going to fix it. Yeah, come on. So, okay, yes, me and Tauris Gibson
Starting point is 00:46:10 did get into a confrontation. You told him, Shug Night fuck this baby mama. I did. You said that. I did say that. I said a lot of shit. He said that shit.
Starting point is 00:46:21 So let me go from the beginning. But making it. in a fucking tiger fucking fur he said yeah and my mansion looked a lot better than his I just want to say that it was way better anyway I have motorcycles and shit in my house but anyway
Starting point is 00:46:34 nevertheless so I okay so the first part of it how it all started was a bad joke that I said okay so I said that because I read for baby boy when I first came
Starting point is 00:46:53 I came out here. I was younger. It's crazy to know that. You actually, like, read for that part. I actually did. Not for that part, but I read for Baby Boy. What part did you read for? I think it was the homeboy. It was the home boy.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Oh, okay. Well, Omar Epps played. Omar Epps played. It was something like that because... No, no. Cuban Jr. Junior's brother. Omar. Omar.
Starting point is 00:47:16 Omar Gooding. Omar Gooding. The homie, that's the homie. Shout out to Omar Goody. And excuse me. I'm going to give him his respect because I remember when he was on Wild and Crazy Kids. Right. Yeah. He called. I remember that shit.
Starting point is 00:47:27 Wild and Crazy Kids, he was on, man. He was one of the first hosts to that. So to see Omar Gooding, you know what I'm saying, on there, Cuban Gooding Jr.'s little brother, just giving him his respect. I remember you. Boy, he was on Nickelodeon. That's where he started. Yeah. Yeah. For show. I remember that shit.
Starting point is 00:47:43 And he used to throw the coldest parties on Venice Beach, man. It was insane. Who did? Omar. Omar is Big Brother. No, the little brother. The little brother. Not Omar. Yeah, Omar, not Cuba. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you got me all high, and I'm confused now. But shout out to both of them. We need to be accurate, so I just want to be accurate.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Shout out to Cuba good because you play O.J. Simpson, and I think that's the coldest, I think, that's one of the coldest guys that's living, O.J. Simpson to me is, I don't know. I don't know. He's just dope to me. Yeah, he's just cold to me. I really like his style. I mean, you know. But anyway. Anyway. So I made a bad joke because, of course, I didn't get the part. And then this is later. And then I was doing a podcast called The Spanky Hay Show. So I got Tiffany Haddish on there.
Starting point is 00:48:37 This is right before she blew up, too, like right before she blew up. And then I had a couple people. That little mole on her face is sexy to me. It is. She looks. I like that little mold. That's my sister. Tiffany, hey, you see me, baby.
Starting point is 00:48:51 But she looks rich. I like that little mole if they don't. I like it. I'll say this. Tiffany looks rich now. That's my sister, so she always looks the same. She was always rich, man. As a black sister to the community, man,
Starting point is 00:49:04 she was rich before she got to where she's at. Me and Tiffany know each other back from the struggle areas. So we know Cat too, Cat Williams too. So it's like, so it means something different to me. Like Cat Williams look real. I couldn't wait to tell him that. Nicky, you look rich, nigga. because, you know, we didn't look rich at one point.
Starting point is 00:49:24 You know what I'm saying? That was part of other comedians that was on, can bag on us. Like, we was funnier than them, but we had old shoes on, and them niggas had new shoes on. So they could cap on this, AJ. Just shout out to AJ again, rest of peace.
Starting point is 00:49:38 But he was one of those dudes that would stand outside the comedy club and just cap on your ass as you're going in, the audience and everybody, comedians and everybody. So, you know, yeah, but shout out all the comedians. That's how I keep getting back to AJ, man. Love you, AJ. I love you, I love you.
Starting point is 00:49:54 I did, man. That was my brother, man. And he fucked with you. That was my brother. That was my brother. You know, I got a last, you know what I'm saying? My last question is, what films you probably got coming up, man?
Starting point is 00:50:05 You know what I'm saying? Anything you write new or you're writing anything or are you about to get ready to start? Anything new? You got anything coming up, man, 2022. Is there anything that we can look out for for Spikey Hayes and it's upcoming? Everything.
Starting point is 00:50:21 I'm on everything smoking. I made sure of it. I got a web series coming out called GTA, Murder City, shot in Detroit, based in Detroit. I got like three internet films coming out. Ayesha Khan, shout out to Ayesha Khan, shooting movies in Detroit, making a difference, turning people, normal people with talent and just making them... making them, putting them in movies. I mean, it's incredible.
Starting point is 00:50:53 So I got a couple of films with him. You know, I got, like I say, this back on the strip thing. Man, everything. I got comedy album coming out. Two of them, actually. One with the other level,
Starting point is 00:51:09 the group I was telling you about that made Wiling Out. So created it. Hey, look, I'm going to bring your ass back because we're going to really dive into that. I want you to really crack the egg shell on it just yet because we wasn't ready for that type of breakfast. Yeah, I mean, I'm just saying,
Starting point is 00:51:24 this is my first time on no jumper. I can't give it all to you. But we're going to crack the egg on that breakfast next time, man. We're going to make a full-blown omelet out of that motherfucker. You hear me? Let's go. For sure. I got it for days.
Starting point is 00:51:35 Yeah. I got it for days. One love, though. But I got a lot of stuff that finished that. I got a lot of stuff coming up. Just look for me. I'm back. It's like, and that's what it is.
Starting point is 00:51:46 Fopok, bitch. Like, that's it. It's back on. It's back on. One more question before we get you up out of year. All right. Is there anything that you regret or something you feel like you should have done to keep you being a successor? Is there anything that you feel like you could have did better to be something, something greater?
Starting point is 00:52:11 No, no, that's a hard question, but I'll say this. If I was the same-sex kind of guy, I would probably be a billionaire and would never been on the show. So, you know, I'll just say that. You know what I'm saying? So it's all the dice. Like what you die is like what kind of cards you play?
Starting point is 00:52:33 Like it's all luck at a draw, man. Like I don't regret shit. Like I call people, I say what I said. Like with Tyrese, I felt like, yeah, you're a fact. But, you know, did I mean? I don't know him personally. So he shouldn't have got that mad. You talk about this.
Starting point is 00:52:47 You talked about his tongue, what, his Lebray Pearson, his little lip piercing. Come on, man. You were saying, don't you, no, and I quote you, you said, man, you ain't never knew a real nigger to wear a piercing in his lip. Right. Or in his mouth. The nigger looked like the 300 million. Remember the big tall 300, boy head, nigga, the Egyptian nigger.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Like, come on, man. I think his name was Xerces. Yeah. Zerci had all the piercses and shit all up in his face in the 300. Hey, but look, though, but on some real shit. Yeah. all the shit that I'm writing right now, I'm about to see if Tarrees is being one of these movies, man.
Starting point is 00:53:21 That was a joke. Why not? That was a joke to me. Like, he took it seriously, you know, by even responding to a comedian. Like, that was dumbing him to do that. Right. So whatever the outcome is.
Starting point is 00:53:33 But you got to remember, I was retired when I did that. I did that just to, because my name was just out there. I didn't give a fuck about doing comedy. I didn't care about none of that shit. I was just like, fuck it. My wife was like, you should do a video. I was like, all right, fuck it.
Starting point is 00:53:51 I didn't care about that shit. That shit could have just blew away, bro. Like seriously. But, you know, I was just like, I had to find one thing to be mad about. Like, it couldn't be, he said, I'm following off or this or that. It had to be one thing. And when he kept saying, you're a comedian, but you ain't funny. That would tick me off.
Starting point is 00:54:14 but I had to find one thing to be mad about. I couldn't be mad at everything. I had to find one thing to be mad about. I was like, okay, he said, I ain't funny. All right, but he's trying to be funny. All right. All right. He must don't know how I'm living right now.
Starting point is 00:54:30 All right. That shit do be sparking the fire, don't? Right. That shit do be sparking the fire. I'm retired for a reason, dog, so don't come at me right now, but whatever. So are you, so can you say this because you've been saying, you know, through our conversation. You've been saying like,
Starting point is 00:54:45 I'm retired. Is this the last, go ahead. Go ahead. Fire that shit up. Go ahead. Like that shit up. Go ahead, man.
Starting point is 00:54:53 Yeah. We don't. Could you, because this is live and this is how we move it? Yeah. No jumper. No jumper.
Starting point is 00:54:59 No jumper. No jumper. Is this where you are retired? Are you just trying to catch a last little gasp of this shit? Or are you trying to come out for real and make a real push?
Starting point is 00:55:12 Because you know what? I've seen that. Mike Epps, he, I'm not going to say he fell off, but he felt dormant for a second. And then he came out. Now I'm seeing him do all these shows. He got all these new clothes. He got all this new jewelry. I'm seeing him moving.
Starting point is 00:55:24 He's in the limelight. He's doing more tours. Listen, it's no such thing as far as a shout out to Mike Epps. Me and Mike Epps. Shout out of Mike Epps. That's why I brought him up, man. Good dude. Seeing him moving.
Starting point is 00:55:37 Look, me and Mike Epps don't see out of eye all the time. Right. A lot of times. 98.9%. of the time. Me and him don't see how to eye. Yeah. But that's my boy.
Starting point is 00:55:46 I love him, though. Like, it's like, like, I wouldn't say he's my enemy because we all doing comedy. So it's like, but even if you, your enemy becomes your best friend. Like, you know what I'm saying? He's the one that you pay attention to. He's the one that know you the most. So, so, but I love him in the same sense. We just never worked together or nothing like that.
Starting point is 00:56:06 But we used to be like best friends, like best friends. Like, like, this nigga Mike Epps was sleeping on my couch and he had like, Like three scripts on the floor, bro. There's no cap. You can vouch for this. No cat. No couch. No guy.
Starting point is 00:56:20 Mike Epps. When he first moved from New York, he came and stayed with me. Now, this ain't no cap, bro. I'm telling you, I'm like, well, you want to hear some stories, bro. But, but again, I love Mike Evers because the time that we spent together and we clicked together, we clicked. That was my man. Like, you know what I'm saying? We used to fight a lot, like, all the time.
Starting point is 00:56:43 fought with my boy Thomas Ward before. Like, we used to actually fight, like, comedy wars. The nigga tried to stab me in Atlanta one time at Lavapalooza. Like, on some real shit. Like, yeah. Yeah. But at the same time, we was young, and we was probably doing cocaine or some shit. We was fucked up.
Starting point is 00:57:06 You know, we were trying to die like that, too. You know, I come from the era, you're supposed to die like a soldier. You know what I'm supposed to die like a soldier. saying not no wimp so we was going for all of that like type shit but at the end of the day I'm like that's my man like you know I don't wish no bodily harm or nothing nothing to his family or nothing I love him I want him to be a billionaire a quadrillionaire all my niggis everybody we name in this interview I wish they all get a trillion dollars here I couldn't even say it I want it to be I want so much money you don't even be able to say it right right you feel like I want I won't
Starting point is 00:57:43 black people that have money and Latino people, man. We got a black and brown. Before I know you're trying to get me out of here, but before I go, I want to say this too. Take your time. I think we should change the Mexican and black thing.
Starting point is 00:57:57 Like, I don't think that we should hate each other for real like that. Right. Like, especially like if you live in California, anywhere West Coast, like, you gotta have a Mexican friend. Like, you damn right. You gotta have, like it's impossible.
Starting point is 00:58:11 It's impossible. It's fucking impossible. You're damn right. So how can you not, like, I love Mexican people, man. I love Mexican food. They're Mexican people. Hey, I just love Latin people, man. Afro-Latina, Latina, Latino.
Starting point is 00:58:27 I love all of them, man. They ain't never did me wrong, man. They'd be down on the West Coast for a long time now, man. Shit. We've been together. But when we get locked up, though, they got that man. It's politics. They got that man saying, hey, all Latinos come over here.
Starting point is 00:58:41 All black people come over here. over here. All the white people go over there. I think we are the same people, man. I don't know. Mexican girls, they just look like black girls. They got booties and everything now, so they're just like black girls with real hair.
Starting point is 00:58:56 To me, that's all I'm saying. Listen, man, and I'm not going to knock the sisters. Never knock the sisters. You bought it is yours. I know if you bought it it was yours and fuck you, motherfucker, I know it looks good and I know you like it. I know how it is. Man,
Starting point is 00:59:12 Spanky, I appreciate you for every motherfucking thing, man. Coming through here, hopefully your ass, come back soon, man, and we can dive in with the fuck, man. Any time. Listen to me, I love you, man. We'll have fun. We'll have more fun next time. So you had to get these questions out.
Starting point is 00:59:28 This is a soft opening. Yeah, you had to get these questions out. This is a soft opening. We are going to definitely come back. Sharp, Spanky Hayes, no jumper. Shooting out the motherfucking gym. Yeah.

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