No Jumper - The Sharp Tank Ep.3: How Tucky Blunt Became The First Ex Felon with a Legal Cannabis Club

Episode Date: November 12, 2021

Sharp sits down with Tucky Blunts who shares his fascinating story on his come up in the cannabis industry, business moves, getting arrested, having his record cleaned and more! Follow Sharp: https://www.instagram.com/tha_sharp_one/ https://twitter.com/theonlysharp Follow Tucky Blunt: https://www.instagram.com/tuckyblunt/ https://www.instagram.com/blunts.and.... https://twitter.com/bluntsandmoore https://www.bluntsandmoore.com ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No jumper. Sharpest podcast in the world. And today, we got my man Cookie Man. Cookie Man, what the fuck's up, man? What's up, Cus? How you feeling? I feel good. Thanks for having me.

Man, hey, I'm glad for you to be here, man. You know, so a little bit about yourself, man. You know, you are one of the first black owners of a dispensary other than Keith Purpleheart when I looked it up. Right, right, right. Right. I'm definitely the first ex-felon for selling weed to have a cannabis club anywhere in the world. Ex-felon?

Yes, for selling cannabis. For selling cannabis. How the fuck did you even manage to even get through something like that? Man, perseverance and resilience, brother. Yeah. And just being me. Man, bro. How do you even obtain something like that?

Oakland had a program called the Social Equity Program where they gave people who had cannabis offenses chances at ownership in the cannabis space. weren't you one of the first dispensaries to gain that to obtain that? The first. I applied for it. We won January 31st, 18, and we opened November 24th of 2018. So explain to me again, like, what does this program and what does it do? What do you do? How do you get into this program?

What's it for? So the exact thing that the equity program was to do was to give people like me who had caught marijuana cases a chance at owning something legally in the marijuana space because it's legal now. How to get any, just apply. There are certain criteria you have to fit to apply. And then once you apply, they put you in a bingo ball lottery, rolled the balls around.

If they pick your ball, you lost. If you were one of the four remaining balls, you won a license. That's how I won my license, literally. Damn, man. See, I wish I could go get me a license and shit like that, man. See, they don't just, they don't never say.

It sounds easy. You just throw yourself in the motherfucking lottery. No, no, no, no. But I mean, you had to have history and cannabis. You had to, because you have to come up with a business plan. You had to have an older mitigation plan. You had to have security structures. So you had to have some form of a business knowledge.

But the kind of fucked up part was when I got the license, they didn't have no money available. So you gave a person a billion dollar license in a billion dollar industry with maybe $20 worth of education. Now, me personally, me and my previous partner, we had business savvy. But 95% of the people that get into this. space that look like this don't have the business savvy yeah you had said uh in 2003 i believe it was you said you tried to become a dispensary owner and they told you that as a black man you'd never own one yes so 2003 we tried to open our first club me and my cousins we have been stacking money i've been working at dispensaries three four years so i knew the game and i knew i never saw no no negroes

right it was only security or at the register yeah and flat out i heard from a couple of people white, Indian. I don't know what I want to say Indian. I don't know what you call Indians. I don't know what you call them. Middle Easter? Middle Eastern. And they would always say

Negroes won't own in this space. Shout out to Keith Stevenson. He was the first person that owned the Cannabis Club that was black. He also goes by what, Keith Purple Heart, I believe? Keith Purple Heart, yeah. And he opened his in 2006. And I didn't even know nothing about that.

And I'd been trying to open one 2003. Had money, had location, but it was just kind of like, Tobe couldn't do it. Didn't know why I didn't really follow up, but we were just told we couldn't do it. So we didn't do it. Man, you know, it's crazy to see somebody, you know, of color today, you know, open up a dispensary, you know, that something that you would probably, like a mother could just selling weed on the street back then that was getting years. You know, it said that you would, you had got 10 years felony probation? Yeah, so for my first defense, my first time interacting

with police was after eight years. 2005? 2005, yeah. I had been selling weed with nine years. I started selling weed at 16. So 2005, I caught a case. One of the people I was buying product from Snitched on me, when he told on me, I bailed out the same night, went back to what I was doing about this. Was it your homie? Yeah, he was my partner.

Like, we, I used to buy weed from this cat every Wednesday and every Sunday. Like, clockwork. See, I guess that was the era when snitching, like, really started. Man. Like, when it really start getting going, the shit starts now, it just boils over. You got everybody tell it, even on TV, tell you they're telling. Yeah, the shit crazy. So snitched on me.

bailed out, kept pushing, but it just was like, all right, I know what to do now. Like, I never got caught because I just, how I moved and then getting caught and then having that 10 years of felony probation put on my name, anybody riding when we can get searched. Yeah.

My house, my car. Mind you, first offense, I ain't ever had no issues with the law. And I had $80 worth of weed on me when they caught me and my pistol. But my pistol was registered. Right. So you was good with that part of the deal.

I could have been good, but being that I have my clip, in my pistol because I had just when a dude snitched on me uh me and him I didn't tell you this part I bought weed from every Wednesday and Sunday but me and him used to go to the shooting range on those Wednesdays or those third it was a Thursday Thursdays a Sunday so this is a motherfucker get him bust guns with me he dropped me off to my car and I got pulled they jacked me five minutes later wow yes see man I don't know I don't like shit like that man that shit right there really fucks with me man is you know somebody that you fuck with because I'm sure that you

trusted him. I did. You know what I'm saying? You fucked with it, man, and then to find out, you know, because people need to understand something like when you snitch and you think that nobody knows, you have to understand that your name ends up on that person's paperwork. They have to tell him who is making these allegations.

So when you think that your ass is getting the fuck away, you're not. And everybody's going to know. I just posted my police report the other day. They tried to say it was anonymous for you. I found out who it was. But, like I said all the time, you know, you've been around long enough to know.

Getting snitched on paid the fuck off. I wouldn't have qualified to open my dispensary because I would have never caught a case. Had I never got snitched on? I'd never got caught by the police for selling wheat ever in my life because of how I sold wheat. So it helped for him to snitch on me

because I finally got what I've been on, a legal cannabis business. Right. It worked out. How was it for you through the pandemic? I remember seeing something on the news they had put you on the news because I know you didn't been on BBC,

you didn't been on USA Today, you didn't did other things, like that but the way that you were on the news and this at this point wasn't a good point because I think that your your cannabis clubs they had broke into it and robbed it during the pandemic right yeah tell me what that was like so 2020 was crazy overall for the cannabis business in general just with bad business practices you got too much flour people not willing to lower their prices you got bad just it was just lot you was buying you buying weed from people so like you still got to buy weed from people you got to buy weed from distro it's like a grocery store so you still got to buy

weed from people so yeah I'm thinking that you know that man shit you got the license to carry shit you got the license to grow oh yeah so yeah so let me get in the bag hey man let's get the digging man let's get some so much weed that you got to sell that one grow up even if i just grew weed just for my store i wouldn't be able to supply enough you wouldn't be able to supply enough so you're telling me you moving that much motherfucking weed i mean not that i'm moving that much motherfucking weed but you wouldn't be able to supply a store with just one grow up you feel right right right so 2020 so i had a lot going on 2020 that no knew about other than my wife and if he was like directly just in my circle so 20 20

I was gonna rob by my previous partner Miss Moore nobody knew that she was robbing my store and um your fucking business partner was robin your you guys's store and then ran it open she was stealing from herself whatever and when it opened another shop in another state so while this was going on I'm not knowing certain things that she changed when she took control of the finances I didn't know about and this is all going to lead to what happened. So we get robbed in May. George Floyd got murdered. We got robbed May 31st.

May 31st, everybody in the cannabis space got robbed. I mean, they broke into all kind of shit. But I'm looking at the cameras, watching my store get ready for six hours by nothing but black people. So I'm just dumbfounding like, damn, this is what y'all do. These all black people breaking in my store. So I got my partner robbing me all year. COVID come. COVID actually helped with cannabis because everybody was stocking up.

Right. Everybody was buying up that first week of COVID That must have been live right there. It was nice. When we officially got put on lockdown. People needed all the toilet paper, all the water, and all the weed. Yes. The first two weeks in March was bananas.

And they deemed it's essential. So that was cool. Essential. So they had deemed the matter. Cannabis was deemed essential. We was able to stay open throughout the whole process. But the combination of being robbed and the combination of the shit my partner did, I had to close.

and a lot of people thought it was just due to COVID. And I'm like, no, COVID was actually cool for us. I had to close because my partner ran us out of money. And we got robbed and we had a lot of debt inside of that robbery that she didn't pay for. So I got left with a big bag at the end and I had to find a new partner and I did. So it worked out. So pretty much you had to find another investor to come in, help you clean up the bullshit that she did and then get the ball back rolling. Exactly.

That's a lot, bro. That's a lot, bro. That's a lot to go through right there, man. You know, and a do-to-your-structure, I looked at your little sheet. I was like, you had a 4.0 average, man. I'm a nerd. I'm a street-smart nerd. You had a 4.0 average. So this must, so selling weed was something

you obviously fucking had your heart set on. Yes. As a young kid. I wanted to open a dispensary since I was 19, and my granny took me to my first dispensary. Yes, I saw that. Your granny, you went in. It says you went in for your grandkids.

granny. No, actually she went in. So this is hilarious. She had a medical marijuana court? Yeah, she did for glaucoma. I just take my granny in for different, take her runner, errands, whatever. She smoked weed. She grew weed, all the shit. But she never knew what she was doing. It was never good. But I knew my, I knew 19, was that, 1999. She had me take her to a cannabis club on Telegraph and 19th in downtown Oakland. I didn't know it was a cannabis club. Yeah. She came out. She had a white bag. What year was this again? This was 1999. 1999. So this was before,

but weed was nowhere near legal then. So it was prop 2.15 days. So you could go in dispensaries then. That's when Cannabis Club, when people had cannabis cards. That's when they came out. They came out in 96. I was 16 and didn't know nothing about them.

19 heard about them via my grandmother. She came out with her white bag. I said, Granny, what's that? She said, it's weed. I said, you bought weed out of a store? She said, yeah. I said, oh, y'all want one of them. And she was like, if you ever get one,

I'm going to be there every day. Now, mind you, she's passed, but my store is like four blocks from her house. You understand what I'm saying? Like, my store is in the same zip code. I caught my case for selling weed in. Like, to be able to do that in East Oakland, from East Oakland,

been selling weed in East Oakland since 96. Yeah, I get snitched on paid off because it paid off. You know, it's fucked up that you had to endure those type of things to go through, you know, just to even uptake. That shit, like, yeah, Yeah, it's lessons, but people need to understand that with pain does come those lessons. And if it hurt that fucking much, you just won't ever put yourself through that type of shit no more. You know what I'm saying?

It's fucked up, man, because I don't like hearing that type of shit. My fucking got to get snitched on, roared on fucking just the absolute fucking most before they can actually just get a break, man. I'm proud of you, man, just to see somebody that's black, somebody that's black or just even of another. color being able to go and own a store and they tell you that you were never you were never going to be able to get one or have one

you know man that says a lot about your character man you know and just what you were willing to push through you know that's I have no choice man you like they don't know but you know me and it's like the shit that that we go through just as black people in general and then now that we in this space

that's dominated can I say this? Dominated by crackers, but we all locked up for it. You know what I'm saying? We all got the cases for it. We only represent less than 2% of the owners in the space. No, that's foul. No.

And I'm competing with brands. Most of these brands I'm going up against with that stores got like 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 stores. I'm one store, and I'm competing with them. You understand what I'm saying? So it has to be more. It can't just be me. Do you plan on expanding? Oh, hell yeah.

Where you've been looking at? Chicago, DC, the whole D.N. V area, New York. I've looked at Oregon, Washington, Arizona, Florida. Wherever they have legal cannabis, I'm trying to come. And I own my IP, so it was good that my partner did the shit she did, because now I own 100% of my store and all the intellectual properties for Blunts and

more. So I can franchise just by saying, hey, let's partner up, let's franchise. You give me a royalty fee. You give me my franchise fee. And 5% of ownership, and I'm out your hair. her doing what she did to you, you know, your partner. Does that fuck you up to where you'll never go into partnership with, like, you know, somebody else, like, you know what I'm saying, of our structure again, you know, because, you know, and I'll be honest with you. I noticed that, and, you know, this is off race, nothing, but it's just funny to see that, you know, us as black folks, we'll show up to, we'll show up on time for the white man, you know, and no offense, because I love.

white people man nothing against them you know how i love my white friends i do man i fucking do but i notice that us is us it's a problem for us us as black folks we'll show up for the white man on time we'll do everything that he tells us on time but when we come working for another brother or working for another person that's of color i notice that we show up late we don't we start taking little shit we start we don't never really respect it as we should man and that's where i think that we get a lot of shit fucked up at today man yeah man you know what i'm saying so i don't so i don't I'm, you know me, I'm super positive. I cannot dwell on negative.

If I dwell on negative, the negative is going to keep coming. It's going to be a negative downward spiral. I'm a positive person. So the shit she did to me, I had to own. I met this woman September of 17. We had a license January of 18. There's not much research I couldn't really do. Yeah, but see, you didn't know her too long, level one.

And you know what? Maybe that's where you got to take that fault. Yeah. It's because you might have jumped. in the pot with somebody, you didn't really know nothing about just yet, you know, so when you say 2000, I'm like, fuck, that was just a, not too long ago.

You know what I'm saying? Y'all kind of just jumped in the next year, like, fuck, that's like getting married. That's like, whoa, whoa, slow the fuck up. I'm gonna tell you what. It was meant for that to happen that fast and go through that lesson because Yahweh put them in my path

for me to get where I'm at and then to be gone. You know what I'm saying? So I can't be like, oh man, fuck that bitch. Like the day of, so the day, let's, the day that we found out that she had a whole other dispensary, I was set to give her about $45,000 and let her walk away and I was going to eat all the debt, right? We already was going to agree to it.

How much was the debt? The total debt that I ended up coming to, I can't say exact amount, but anywhere between $2.5 million. And that's vendor debt and vendors meaning paying our people that grow or weed or whatever. And also tax debt. She stopped paying taxes. So she just fucking completely.

quit all the way around on you. Like she gave up before you even knew it. Before I even knew it and had opened a whole other shot. Oh, so she was waiting for the cookie. Yeah, she like that, to crumble. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But she was part of it crumbling, so it just made no sense. It makes me...

Cookie, man. She was prepared for the cookie to crumble. And she was part of the crumbling, which didn't make no sense. So... So all that to say, like, I have to own my fault in that, in the sense of I didn't know them enough to even do it. this type of deal with them. But the way stuff happened so fast, it had to happen. But again, it was meant for it to happen that way because I'm supposed to be the owner of the store.

I'm supposed to have a dispensary, but that was my way to get in. And I didn't know. You know what I'm saying? I didn't know. Like, they came with the knowledge that I thought they had and come to find out they really didn't. Once the ball was putting in their court for them to handle the business as the business, they couldn't do it. And instead of them just saying, Tucky, we can't do it. They started accusing me of having sex with the staff. They accused me of stealing. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Who accused you of having sex with the staff?

My previous partner and her mama. Yeah, they accused. Your wife didn't want to beat her ass? My wife was sitting right there when they said it. We was all at lunch. And they accused me of fucking staff members in front of my wife. I'm like, what are you talking about? It was all bogus, but it was to keep me out of the store so I couldn't be like,

oh, looking over their shoulder. Yeah. And these is sisters. I don't know if y'all notice. Now, this is a sister. We ain't talking about this is no white. person or this is a black woman and daughter. So for me, I was

kind of like, damn, this is really what we're doing, but it was meant for it to happen. They would put in my life to give me this dispensary and then move the fuck on. And that's, that's what it is. But see, it almost came to a point to where she didn't, the way the story was explained to me,

it doesn't seem like she expected you to thrive. She kind of expected you to crumble. She took everything that she wanted to take out of the business without you even knowing. And she made sure that she left a fat-ass bill. She stopped paying the taxes, everything. But when she's in your face, she's letting it be,

oh, everything's taking care of. Everything is great smiling in your face. But really, she was hoping for the cookie to crumble. And it is good to see that, I hope that wherever that bitch is, bitch, I hope your shop burn up allegedly. I don't know. It's already closed. Good.

No, it closed on last Thursday. Because what goes around, let me tell you something, man. Let me tell you something, man. Karma come. Fas. Karma is not a bad. Karma is not a bad. bitch, it's a mirror.

Hey. Karma is not a bitch. Hello. It is a mirror. And we'll go around, come around, man. That shit right there be scanless as fuck. Dude, and I, you know, like, people that don't like, I don't deserve shit like that. I don't like snitching and I don't like people doing people dirty like that, man.

I don't do that. You know, like, everybody knows me like, they're like, damn, like the people that's finally hearing it because I have legal things that I can't say about everything they did because that's the deal we signed. But, like, they was wrong. And I'm like, my couple, I'm at. I'm going to say maybe a month, two, three months later I thought about, I wanted to know, like, a why. Like, why did y'all do that?

But I don't, I don't care. I know the why. It was meant for them to do that so I can be in a position that I am now talking to you about it. You know what I'm saying? Right. So it is what it is. I'm here. I ain't going nowhere.

Man, look, I know that you, you got kids, man. What do your kids say when you go, when they go to school and it'd be like, everybody's talking about, oh, well, my dad does this. And, you know, my dad does this. Oh, my dad owns a construction company. Oh, yeah? my dad's my daddy sell weed my dad and he tell all she tell all the little kids that you know hey yeah my daddy sell weed everybody up in there talking about building building blocks she ready to teach you how to put this eighth together in the bag that's a heck of funny so what's crazy how does that feel like your kids to go to school and like you know you know their parent being pretty much a legal

drug dealer it feels it feels great to say it like the drug lord sure by the way shout out to alanna his clothing shout out to shout out to DJ Baby Brother too I had to get out I like that I like that this is dope this fits

but my kids have known I saw weed as long as they've been on this earth so but I always had a job so they could always say hey he works for Alabama

to County or hey he does this oh he details cars so it was cool but now for them to be able to so you were selling weed you saw weed and always worked I kept in 9 to 5

you have to so you know I'm saying you so you saw weed the whole motherfucker to all the way up to, like, you never gave up in it. You never like stuff. Well, technically I retired in like 2015, but I still got my family client.

That's when you opened up your dispensary? No, that's when I just got tired of selling weed because I wanted a dispensary. Like, I was just tired. Like, it was like, it was no, the goals I had for me selling cannabis weren't being reached. So it was like I was literally just, you know, making my money on Flipman, which was cool. I made good money, but it wasn't what I want. I want to be a store. So when you go pick up your kids back to,

back to that. Yeah, that's what we did. So when you go pick up your kids for school, nobody looks at you funny. No, that's what I was meant to say. Nothing. Like, you don't have no problems. I'm sure everybody knows, man. Dude, most of my kids, friends, parents smoke or eat edibles or dad.

So when they see you, they got a smile on their face. Man, it would be so funny. He took it. My kids be like, hey, dad. My friends went to the store. Here go to picture. They then went to the store. Like, no, it's a beautiful.

thing like I was on my daughter wow that's amazing my daughter had a fucking um you know the online um open house or whatever whenever teacher a conference with her teacher right and i forgot that my zoom it's all based on all my brand so i got my cartoon character with the blunt you know my tucky blunt character right so you up in here with a bunch of diverse people do we get on no it's just me and a teacher and my daughter but we get on the zoom i forget my face is the cartoon so i could see her face looking like because i was supposed to be on live i said let me take that off she started cracking up she's like oh no i don't mind but it's just no one minds. This ain't the 60s

no more. You know what I'm saying? You can say your dad sells weed legally and it's applauding. You know what I'm saying? So that's the question. That's the answer the question. It's applauded. Well, like to see back in the day, we were talking about it, people were getting 20 years, 30 years for having over

an ounce or having a pound of weed on them to something today. If it's just in your house, the police come up in there, man. They're going to overlook that shit. Right. I mean now they need to just release people. That's that's in jail for it. Like, if you're making money off of this,

you got people that's in the government that put people in jail for selling cannabis now on boards of cannabis companies. Do you think the government, and I'm asking you, do you think the government's happy with a person of your color, of our color? Do you think that the government's happy

with you owning one, honestly, owning the dispensary? I don't think the government is happy with anything anybody is doing. Right. But this is Ameri KKK. So I can't, you know, I can't worry about what they're going to do.

I know federal legalization is around the corner. It has to be done right, meaning we got to be in the room helping them craft the laws, but it's inevitable. They see this money cash cow to them, and they're just trying to dive in, but it's a way to approach it. You really got to approach this shit like the hustle.

What do you think they need to change? I mean, they've legalized it. They've made sure that anybody that's fucking at the age of 21, and I think they're going to change that fucking law soon. I think they're going to change it to 18 and just let motherfuckers just go up in there and run up in there. But see, you have to understand something.

I had a medical marijuana card back in the very beginning. And I'll give the game into why I kind of did it. I was about to get ready to go on some paperwork, but I knew I smoked weed. So what I did was before I got on paperwork, I went and got me a medical marijuana card. You know, I go get me one, you know, so I'm smoking, you know, so to see. It's come a long way in the sense it's been legalized, and I'm thankful for that I tell people that all the time. Like you got to think about it.

You're talking to a dispensary owner that was arrested for selling wheat. So it's come a long way. but in order for it to go the next step that it needs to go where the taxes are done right the regulations are done right the state to state commerce is done right like I'm going back to the the school days state should be able to control what they do that's why you have checks and balances I remember when the state of Nevada the state of Nevada first legalized marijuana that weekend alone and because it's popped up on a Friday that weekend alone they made I want to say $3.7 million in a weekend.

I used to go to just off of weed. Just off of weed. For this in Nevada. Yeah. Like, you get thrown under the jail for a fucking joint. You know what I'm saying? So to see them now, they have no problems with it. Once, let me tell you something, I think the government has no problems with telling, with anybody doing anything if they know how to tax it. Yeah, of course. They just don't, they're just trying to figure out how to tax things.

But they don't know how. They don't really know how. They're trying to, They're trying to get a grip on marijuana, which is what we're talking about. So they're just trying to do one thing at a time. They've seen that this makes money. This is a very lucrative business. Indeed. People like yourself have been knowing of this for many years. And I don't think that you can, I'm not saying people can't, but I think it takes years of knowledge like yourself to be able to even say, hey, I own one today.

That's why you're humble. Did you think 20 years ago or 15 years ago? You would be one of the first black. No, hell no. One of the first black. Not just one of the dispensary owner, but one of the first black dispensary owners. I'm sure that shit was hell. Definitely didn't.

That shit was different. I know they looked at your ass different when you walked in the buildings. Looking when we were doing our partner investments and going around, people email and not knowing that I was black but they didn't see me like, oh shit, this is a nigga. Yeah, just that same nigga. I type 90 words and mean it. I'm very intellectual. I'm educated. like I'm not just a dumb nigger

you know what I'm saying I have business savvy I know how to get in these rooms I can talk to you white and I can talk to you right you know what I'm saying like it's not it's easy for me and they put the it was I'm putting the right position they put the right person here I didn't sign up for it sharp like I didn't plan on being like the face of social equity and all nah did not

I think all the real ones I think all the real ones like all the real moguls all the people that have really had success they never they'll say that man like I didn't ask for this shit. It just kind of comes about.

You know what I'm saying? Like you build up to that moment. Could you took this feeling of owning a dispensary today? Hell, being on no jumper, sharpest podcasts in the world? Yes, yes. Probably not some years back. You know what I'm saying?

But to be here today, you have elevated your game, my man. Bro, even with you just, you know, hitting me about even coming down here. Like I was telling people off camera, like, I was reposted when you came here, reposted all you, like I fucked with when you told me you was coming here, I was dumb excited. Like it was me.

Like I felt good for you. So to have you come call me to share your platform, you know what I'm saying, a part of platform or you're a part of with me? Like yeah, no, like when you're talked about in rooms that you're not in, that's a good thing.

So the reason why when people ask why you was able to stay open, why he was able to do this, how he was able to come back, it's the resiliency and having friends. like you like having people that know my character know my work ethic know how to do the same shit that i do for you i talk about you when you're not around you know what i'm saying like so to have that kind of friendships and network and just it means something and that's why i'm able to still be here because i'm that kind of person if i was on some fuckboy shit i wouldn't be i wouldn't

still be here dog you know what i'm saying that shit don't last long right so no i just listen to me man it isn't really that i listen i got a i got a i got a lot of people that I've talked to. I've had the pleasure of meeting, but I've never really been around a bunch of people to watch them really start from the bottom. You've always been invested into the

marijuana business, into the industry. And we've known a lot of niggas. We've known a lot of motherfuckers, bro, that have everybody sell weed or I'm the best, or he might get it up, but to see somebody say, hey, man, I've been really solely invested in weed.

For as long as I can remember went into one of the first dispensaries because I'm sure there was only probably one maybe two in your city at that time back in 1999 probably wasn't a lot of dispensaries moving at that time because it wasn't really it was it was frowned upon Oakland had back then for Berkeley had two Hayward had hell of them that was the spot where Hayward heyward heyward that's where I met the cookie lady at how my name's a cookie man I met her at a funny cookie man honestly that's a funny motherfucker Right, and it's spelled different. It's like, you want a cookie? So cookie, man, C-O-O-K-E-Y. That came from, I came back from Alabama, and I went to Alabama State for a year from 2001. So you weren't really a nerd. Yeah, really nerd.

I left Oakland, stopped trapping and was like, I'm going to go to Alabama State. Me and my sister graduated high school, and I was like, hey, whatever college you get into, I'm going to go with you. I was bored. Like, I had money. I was just like, I don't even know why I was night. That was 20, 20 going on 21. And I got accepted. that she didn't. I went out there, kicked it.

Me and two chains. He smoked every day. That's when he was Titty. You're talking about two chains. I'm talking about Eps. His name was Eps back then. That was Epps. That was Epps at the choir. Tell me. Tell me, two chains. Yeah, two chains. Titty boy. So I come back 2002. I started back going to cannabis clubs. Mind you, I started going to 99. So I come back,

it's a big and hayward. I'm buying Halloween cookies. I will buy them, take them to my home boys, and we would eat them and see how they would do us. We'd buy carrot cake. Well, no, we buy a chocolate. the chip, oatmeal raisin, ginger snaps. So one day I might... All that shit's nasty.

I wouldn't even ate none of that. I'll be honest with you, bro. They tasted like weed dirt, but we were high as fuck. I'm talking about... Because y'all was smoking stress. Listen, what year was this? Oh, no, straight, now, I've never smoked ever. You can ask anybody on my...

You were smoking stress. What year was... What year was this? This was 2002. Nick, I was never even smoked hammer. Ask anybody at no tucker one. You never had a dime bag when nobody was looking and just needed a... No seeds. Ask anybody that no.

Take a survey. Take a survey. Stop playing with me. Ask anybody. Nick, I'm going to pull your car. Please do. I'm going to find out. Please do.

I'm going to find out. Try it. Do y'all know Cookie Man? Ask anybody to know Alfonzo Blunt Jr. My last name is blunt. I got to keep fire. This nigga never blew a stress and blessing. Never.

Ask them. I'm from East Oakland. We're purple. I smoke nothing but purple. So this is all go to cookies. I remember when y'all was pushing. Hey, I remember, you know, the first purple I ever smoked came from y'all was hardball perp.

Oh, yeah. Hardball perp was the top of the motherfucking line dime. I remember when that shit, man, they motherfuckers wanted $150 for a quarter. And that's how I made my money. So look, though. So I'm in the shot. I'm telling the dude. I say, hey, bro, these cookies is good.

They get us, you know, they get us high. I said, but they taste like dirt and they hella crunchy. He said, well, Mr. Blunt, the lady that makes them is right there. I said, oh, I went a holladder, the white lady. Shout out Erica. Capricorn. I end up hitting her. I said, look, man, all my niggas smoked purple all day. We all, back that time, I was a faux ex. So I'm like, we all two-fifty a better. The cookies is strong, but I want to like take this and really do something with it. She said, well, my test done me is like

six, six and he a big white boy. So what you was doing? You was making edibles? I was buying them from her. Cookies, carrot cakes, banana, bread, chocolate cakes, oatmeal raisin, oatmeal raisin, ginger snap, oatmeal, I mean, oatmeal cranberry. I buy it from her and then resell them with my weed. So you get combo packs. I'd have a menu. You can buy you an A4 weed and two cookies. So, ooh, so you can get your sweets and your treats. So once I seen that I could do it, once I seen that it was actually selling from 03 to 04, I just kept building it, kept building it.

And I was like, you know what? I'm going to start calling myself the cookie man. So I made a logo, started calling myself the cookie man back then. I was throwing parties in open. So you disguised yourself. Yeah. You disguised yourself through sweets. Yeah.

And was trapping. So motherfuckers knew, you know what I'm saying? like yeah that's the cookie man right there I just walk around clubs eating cookies nibbling off cookies walking around like I was known as like a whole movement in the Bay Area from the cookie man and this was way before cookies the strain

like a lot of people think oh well you stole from cookies no I was doing this that wasn't even the true meaning that wasn't even the meaning of it right I was about weed pastries right and when I came online to the game shit in 03 I was cookie man my profile been cookie man since 2003 C O K-O-K-E-Y

man to have some bomb back in 03, like to really have some real true smoke. 400 zip. I was going to 400 zip back then. What was you having? What flavor? So, there was, I, I, don't even mean to interrupt you. Go ahead.

But I'll say the flavors that I knew was around because I'm from the West Coast too, man. So I knew what was really going on. You had, you had master, you had fucking purple. You had OG. And shit, that's all the ones that I really remember. remember that was just the top crem dillel and some jack hair but didn't nobody want to smoke that shit that shit tastes too chemical it's in the bay in that time frame like i said i started 96 back then it was just good light green it didn't really had no name there was pretendo too you know

you know what that the well tell me talk to me i'm telling you the the the my mama and daddy pallets made me how i am now my daddy palate is a little he can take a little bit of the the cheaper My mama is a straight. If you give her some Bammer or some not, she's going to call you on. And that's what palette I come from. My brother, I've never ever smoked boo-boo. I've never had to. I've always kept some shit that was 4'100 Zip.

So back then, in 1996, it was light green. It started evolving to the purple around like 99, 2000. It's when Purple hit the scene for me. And it was on. Granddaddy Purp. Granddaddy Perp. Granddad and Hardball. Because I remember the hardball from the bay, man.

I remember a few cats they used to boo that shit, man. And I'm going to tell you that shit was splendid. Hey, I used to get mine from one of my good friends. I was paying $150 for the quarter. Hey. 150. I mean, this is, I'm in other places. I mean, shit, I'm not out in the motherfucking bay.

I'm not right there next to the source. So, you know, shit, we was paying $1.50. We were taxing. I remember a motherfucker fucking he charged $150 for a six grammar of Master Cush. six grams 150 you ain't getting out of it and he was one of the only cats that was moving the shit I believe it for real man so I remember the transition of weed I watched it I watched it go from stress to pretendo to chronic to now we're starting to touch into a whole another different realm

you know what I'm saying we're touching purples and we're touching now shit they got flavors to all types of shit you ever tasted that blue zushi from uh 10 I have. You ever had the bubble gun? Yeah. Bubble gum go. They shit is slapping. A lot of people don't realize. How is your weed from your dispensary? Is it all top shelf? Does it stand up with some of the elite? Some of the

elite. You tell me, I'm not putting my fucking face on it if it's not, if it's some bullshit, dog. Hey, man, this, hey man, simply green all-purpose cannabis. So California stank on us. So does this have a mixture of weed? Does this have, you know what I'm saying? Is this just

one solid strength? Because I don't know if this is a miss as an all purpose. So I do one solid strain. I pick two or three and put them in the bag and they got to smoke good, taste good, get you high. So all that matter. So this bag right here,

it contains three different type of weed. Nope, it contains one, but I have three different flavors that come in this bag. I just put the different flavors on the back. You actually have a bass that nobody has. This is something that's going to drop next. Let me see,

can I be the one? Can I smell your weed? You can do it. That's yours, actually. That's your weed, actually. man well you know i'm damn sure gonna put it to the test yes please i'm telling you when you do y'all comments or whatever please find somebody that can tell me i've ever smoked or sold them some

bullshit if it's not an 8.5 on my scale i'm not even selling it to nobody and what's crazy sharp i'm bad for selling weed on a turf i'm gonna tell you why when you come to me back then i have five six seven different flavors right so if you pull up on me on a turf i'm showing you five six different flavors that's not set up for turk you five six different flavors that's not set up for turf weed for sales. It's supposed to be in and out. So I was never, that's why I never was on a turf because the way I saw weed wasn't meant for a turf. I want to have an interaction with you. I want to come in, drop off three, four flavors you look at them, pick the ones you want, smoke a couple of them with me, then pay me, and then I'm leaving. That's how I did my

thing. And it's working. Hopefully, because, you know, that's the only way I grabbed my dro. But I'm going to say this, Cookie, and this is serious, before we get out of here. And this is a serious question for you a deep question. I want to know what does it, what does it feel like to go and stand on the corner that you got today, that you got arrested selling wheat? Honestly, it feels great. I literally got arrested on my turf in front of my granny house. When's the last time you stood over there and just reminisce? I go over there once a week.

I was over there remembering this with my daddy the other day. Like, because my daddy still owns the house. Like, I've had, um, the Klepper show came and filmed me over there before, you know what I'm saying? Like, we had a whole little setup shoot, like, it feels great. Like, I stand there a lot and reflect on my car where it was parked at that day or my other car was parked at that day. What time the dude dropped me off. How the same cop who arrested me that day in 2005, right?

Man, this is, this deep. Same cop that arrested me in 2005. We're going down to the police station. You're good, bro. We went down to police station that night. And he's trying to give me the snitch. I'm like, man, I got nothing to say, take me down there or whatever. I say, man, I'll start work for Alameda County on that Monday.

He arrested me on Thursday. I'm like, I started work for Alameda County that Monday. He's like, yeah, right, whatever. First day at lunch, Alameda County, 400 Broadway. I'm walking out the building. Who coming up the stairs? My arresting officer. Now, wait, we fast forward.

18, however many years later, we get robbed. When we get robbed, and I tell you, we get robbed, right? The next day, we on the phone, all the dispensary owners with the OPD, because OPD they can protect us. The captain of OPD is on that call. It's my arresting officer. That same arresting officer, it's the same cop who held me

get my record clear. I'm no longer a felon because the same cop who arrested me in 2005. He called the DA for a favor and got my record clear. That's the type of shit I'm on. Who does that? Who gets arrested by a cop

and the same cop helps him get that fucking record clear 20 years later? I meant to do this shit, but and I ain't going nowhere. So you get your, you got your firearm, you got to get reinstated for your firearms and everything. That's unheard of. And I have my firearm.

When he jacked me, I was registered thin, but I lost all that because I caught the felony case. He called the DA and helped me get my shit back. All I had to do is sign two paper. Shout out Randy Wingate, my arresting officer. Shout out Ercie Joyner, my other arresting officer, who now is part owner of high times in Oakland. So now he's working in the cannabis space. Oh, man. You can't write this shit.

You can't write it. You can only live it. I'm going to say this, man. You got anything for us, man, before we go, man. Because that got deep. Because I'm going to say this. Because I want to be able to bring you back and I want to be able to open you up again.

You know what I'm saying? And just you even just walk us through that time. It's good. You know what I'm saying? And why that happened. It's good. You know what I'm saying? My kids.

All I'm going to say is thank you. Thank the whole platform. Adam and I here. Everybody that's behind us. I don't want to say nobody names, but thank you all. Blunts and more, we open seven days a week, 701, 66 Avenue in East Oakland, California. Same zip code I was arrested in.

Actually, the same zip code that's been on my ID all my life, 9-4-6-21. I'm selling weed still in the same area. It's crazy that you're still selling weed right where they got you. Right where they got me. Man, can't nobody say nothing to you today. They protect me now. They protect you now.

That puts a motherfucker. That puts a smile on my face that the same people that jacked them up, man. it's protecting him. So I don't know. I just, man, support black cannabis. Google me. Like I'm always talking positive.

I'm taking clients for consulting. And your weed does smell pretty good, by the way. Mom, bro. We're gonna, man. I ain't gonna lie, man. He can't. He knows I smoke nothing. You know, you brought me a joint one time

that was suspect. He lied. But, hey, man, yeah. No, this simply green right here. It smelled real good. That's me. Cookie, man. I appreciate you, man.

coming down here, Maine. And hopefully we can get you back here soon. You hear me? LA, my second home. You say the word. Sharp. Cookie Man, no jumper. Sharpest podcast in the world, baby.

And we out. Cheers.