No Jumper - The Sharp Tank Episode 13 With Keekee

Episode Date: February 24, 2022

Sharp sits down with Keekee for a special episode of the Shark Tank! Keekee talks about the streets, sports, beating the odds and making a better life for himself. https://www.instagram.com/2cckeekee/... https://www.instagram.com/tha_sharp_one/ https://twitter.com/theonlysharp ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So here we go, man. Let's get it, man. The Sharp Tank. Yes, sir. No jumper. Yes, sir. Sharpest, coolest podcast in the world. Tell them.
Starting point is 00:00:14 And the way I'm, man, this was a turn of events right here because this is a very hard man to get right here. Everybody doesn't ask this man, you know, in the building mandate, man, man, let me get an interview. Let me, let me do something with you, you know. He turned it down and he just stayed doing his job here at no jumper. But finally, we got him on the Sharp Tank, man. We got Kiki from No Jumper, man. You know what it is, man. Welcome to the motherfucking building, man.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Appreciate you having me, man. Yeah, no, most definitely, man. So let's, hey, so I just want to dive right on in, man. Let's get to it. Let's talk about, man, you know, your upbringing, man. What part of L.A. are you from Los Angeles area? Compton, to be exact. Compton, man.
Starting point is 00:00:51 Tell me about, man, you know what you came up to, man, around that time. You know what I'm saying? Being young. Shit, the fucking curb, bro, the gutter, you feel what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hungry and hustling. Was there, was there a time like something that you probably went through that you was like, man, shit, I probably won't make it out of this shit, man.
Starting point is 00:01:07 I'm not going to, you know, it was some times for you. Yeah. Let's name one or two. Let's go down memory lane. All right, for sure, for sure. We're going to go down memory lane. Shout out to AD because you're in this story, man. We moved over to Pine Street off in Compton, Long Beach Boulevard by the Compton Swatmeet.
Starting point is 00:01:22 I know you're familiar with that. So we move over there, bro. And it's just like the trenches, fam. like walking to school, you got to do the big homies at the corner, like, hey, where y'all from? Who, who your dad? You feel I'm saying? Like, why y'all over here? That type of, like, you feel I'm saying? So I had to choose a fine line to, is it going to be sports? Is it going to be this street shit? Or am I just going to tuck my tail and just be Kiki? You feel what I'm saying? So it was like, I had to choose between them lines and just that Compton
Starting point is 00:01:52 situation, bro, it made me who I am to this day. Like, so for instance, I'm coming home with a red Chicago Bulls starter jacket, bro. And I know you know about their starter jackets. You feel what I'm saying? Hell yeah, man. It was a hot commodity, man back in the day. Hell yeah. I'm going to get you one of them ones, bro.
Starting point is 00:02:10 I'm coming home from school. Pops, though, he brought me all three. He bought me a three set. It was the Dallas Cowboys, the Oakland Raiders, and the Chicago Bulls. I was good when I wore my Raiders and my Cowboys, bro. But this one Friday, I decided to wear my Chicago Bulls. Damn. I'm on the other side of bullets.
Starting point is 00:02:29 I'm not knowing. gang stuff at this moment. You feel me? I'm young. You feel me? Pop's just blessed me. It's a culture, man. Bro, I hit the wrong corner, bro. When I say I've seen rare rags, I'm like, oh, man, my dad be with the blue side, you feel I'm saying? So I know what this mean right now. I need to stay away from this, you feel me? Yeah. Sure enough. I tried to hit a corner in a little alley and I walked in the more. And you long story, short, sharp, my starter jacket was gold. I want you to explain, like, how did he take it from you? Like, what did you remember from, like, what did he do to take it?
Starting point is 00:03:06 Did he just say, hey, you come up out of it and you took it off? Oh, my gosh, bro. He didn't even have to tell me nothing. He ain't at this moment, bro, I'm a young pup. You feel what I'm saying? All I know is blue. I see red at this moment, you feel me? So he walked up to me, it's a nice jacket, little homie.
Starting point is 00:03:22 You're from the hood? I'm like, no, I just go to Linwood Middle School. You feel? I'm like, you know? I just play basketball. for you feel me. Right, right. So as soon as I got off with the sports shit, he pushed me to the ground.
Starting point is 00:03:35 So I'm like shocked, like, damn, these some grown ass men. I see white beavers buff. You feel I'm saying? I'm like, oh shit, 40 bottles going around. I'm like, you know what? Pops raised a real one, but this ain't the one for me to try to act tough. You got to learn when the pic-a-choo's your battles, man. That's a smart man.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Showing up, when he pushed me to that corner man in that alley, I just looked up at him. And when I seen that hand come, I knew it was either about to be my face or my damn my damn starter jacket, bro. He went straight to the hood, snatched that. I'm talking about like, bro, this shit was on some incredible
Starting point is 00:04:05 hawk snatch type shit, bro. Damn. Bro, I had glasses and shit. Well, you seem like a big guy. Were you always a big guy, you know? Yeah, bro, I was huge, bro. But, God damn, I'm 12. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:04:19 I just moved to the block. You get what I'm saying? Like, you know what I'm saying? Right, right. Your boy, man, God, dog. So growing up in that type of culture that you know growing up you know where you went to school and you probably had to walk through two different three different neighborhoods just to get to your school you know what was that like did you
Starting point is 00:04:39 end up gang banging you was you know what you was you in it when did you you know what I'm saying you feel like you this is what you was going to do fucking I'm about to start gangbagging man because I think that's what pushes a lot of people and people got to understand something I think that pushes a lot of people to gang banging and being a part of something because it's like damn they already treating you like you live in that neighborhood watch watch so piggyback on that bro like that moment right there is what showed me where you live at you have to pick aside because I don't know them you get what I'm saying I didn't know them from Jack or Jane bro so it's like I'm walking home by myself every day it's like you know what now I'm hearing oh we got to
Starting point is 00:05:18 go in the house on before the street's light comes on because whoopty-whoop is about to come over here so that type of stuff it was just mind triggering to you oh I want to I want to I want to want to see what them dudes is about. You feel what I'm saying? Oh, I know what these dudes is. They're just bullying me over here. You found these ain't my real friends over here. Let me see what they about.
Starting point is 00:05:37 So when I got to school, bro, and I met somebody that was on the blue side, it was a total different type of respect. And like, they stood up for me. You get what I'm saying? They was like, hey, bro, we know you just moved out here. We know you don't know nobody. Them niggas fuck with you again. Let us know.
Starting point is 00:05:56 So that type of shit is what made me. me say, you know what? I am by my damn self. Like my dad can't walk me to school. Like, yeah, a couple of y'all know my pops from cutting hair, but that ain't about to save me. Every day I got to hit these corners. You feel what I'm saying? So shout out to my homeboy Boo-boo, man, for putting that battery in my pack to start taking off on shit. Because once I start taking off on shit, it became, that's the new nigga that ain't scared. Right. You get what I'm saying? Did you, Did you feel in Because I gotta ask this
Starting point is 00:06:28 I don't want to forget this Yeah yeah Did you feel Indedit Like once you felt like Okay well These niggas about to stand up for me Like they riding for me
Starting point is 00:06:38 You know what I'm saying So I gotta It's only right That I ride back You know what I'm saying So for them You know so did you feel like There was some type of you being in debt
Starting point is 00:06:48 To you know who you was fucking with Like at the time Being young like that Yes Yes Yes You feel what I'm saying? Because ain't nobody coming to my rescue.
Starting point is 00:06:59 I meet up with family gatherings. You know family functions. I'm telling my big cousins about it. These niggas laughing. Like, you feel it? Because they didn't already been through it. But it's like, bro, this shit is different, bro. And then Compton, you could come up missing.
Starting point is 00:07:12 You feel me? And I'm letting people know like, hey, bro, this is what I'm going through. You feel me? And everybody telling me, choose sports, choose sports. Okay, that's cool. But these niggas is banging on the basketball players, bro. There's game. Like, motherfuckers got to understand something.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Like, I've seen full-blown NBA players, you know? There ain't no names, but just, I've seen full-blown NBA players and football players throw up their neighborhood after a touchdown or a big scoring game. You know what I'm saying? Like in basketball, motherfucker, you know what I'm saying? Hit the game winning shot. And that nigga, man, after he done,
Starting point is 00:07:44 he threw his neighborhood up and walk off. So, motherfuckers got to understand, man, that shit walks everywhere. But I really believe, like, for a lot of them, them type of like because that's you know play professional sports and you know they get a a high paid paycheck and things like that like i look at them like man you what are you doing this for like what are you still like what are you doing it for and i think a lot of them they do it because it's i just want to say i know somebody from there because when somebody come and be like you
Starting point is 00:08:14 ain't really down because you play professional sports or you somebody at a higher bracket now a higher profile person oh you ain't down no more so What they try to do is they try to run out and go get niggas from the neighborhood or they try to go get with a set to say, oh, yeah, they down. Oh, he'd be up over here. Yeah, he's from here. He down. But I noticed a lot of these motherfuckers, man, end up paying the bag to be there. I was just about to say, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:08:36 It's all the bag, bro. It's protection, you feel me? And then it's just, it's sad, though, bro. I agree with you on that because when you're in the NBA, bro, or the NFL and you're getting this check, bro, to be a hero to be like an actual figure to other people, bro. don't be out here. Like, come on, bro. Like, my son look up to you, fam. And if I'm somebody that's leaving it alone a little bit,
Starting point is 00:09:03 who are you to be doing that? Because it's hard to have control over who has influence over your kids, right? Straight up. You know, if they like them and they see them on TV and they doing what they doing, they look at it like, you know, shit, I don't want my kid to like them because, see, you being an adult, you really know what they're on. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:22 No, but your kid, they just glorifying them, man. They just, they love him what they see. Right. That's like, that's like Lilski. If he, like, how he is YouTube, YouTuber, like, no jumper fan. Yeah. If he hears somebody talking crazy about you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:37 He's going to be like, check this out, bro. You don't know my uncle. Yeah. You really don't know my uncle, bro. Like, don't do that. Like, don't do that. So it's just like, just respect level and where we come from, you feel? I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:09:49 So basically to them athletes, man, I love what you. y'all doing, bro, but y'all got to use your platform for better. You feel what I'm saying? Right. You don't see LeBron. You don't see Tom Brady doing that. Right. Hey, man, I just saw by the way while you're bringing up Tom Brady. I just seen him retired the other day after 22 consecutive years. Shit, I would too. If I own the whole damn league, bro. Shit, I didn't want everything. I mean, goddamn. My back hurt. But, all right, so, all right, we dive it. So back to, you know, your upbringing.
Starting point is 00:10:22 And just what you've had to go through to survive, to be a survivor today. Tunnel vision. Stick to you. You feel me? Like you always tell me. You where you are because you never changed. You feel what I'm saying? And I feel like that's what's going on right here in this moment.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Bro, I'm where I'm at right now because I didn't switch. I didn't change. So you got to have tunnel vision. And when I mean by that, stick to your script. You feel what I'm saying? me, it was so much in my head. Okay, pops with Ice Cube and all the West Side Connection stuff going on. All right, I'm looking up to that thinking that's the best thing. That's why AD get the comparisons of Ice Cube because that's who we grew up off of. Okay, with the sports,
Starting point is 00:11:09 I'm going through that, gangbanging, going through that. You know what? My mom passed away. You feel what I'm saying? So that's, when I was 12, I had to make a decision. Like, you know what? It's going to be like this sports path for me. You feel what I'm saying? Because I'm seeing my homeboys, young, bro. Get packed out, get shot at. Like so much stupid shit that we wasn't even supposed to be involved in. You feel what I'm saying? So I just had to stick with my tunnel vision, went through sports, bro. It got me a scholarship. Went to UNLV in Vegas. And then coming from that, the street shit called and knocked at my door again. You feel what I'm saying? I'm up at UNLV in the locker room. I got a two-year partial scholarship there for football. So I'm in the way room working out.
Starting point is 00:11:52 So we get a new recruit. It's a dude from Compton, but he's a Paroo. So they tell him like, yeah, bro, it's a dude. How was that being, you're from the blue side, right? Correct. So how was that having somebody that was, you know, Paru, you know, and you grew up Cripping, you know. How did that reflect on you?
Starting point is 00:12:15 Like, how did you feel about that? Like, when you found that out that this dude could possibly bend somebody not saying, it doesn't matter who it is, but just this could have been somebody who popped one of my homies or, you know, this could have been somebody who's had a funk with something and then had made some real problems, some real riff over in my neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Yeah, so that all plays a part. That all plays a part. But when you're on a bigger platform, you got to leave that shit alone. Yeah. You feel me? Because majority of my homeboys didn't go to college. They didn't get a chance to get a scholarship.
Starting point is 00:12:43 You feel what I'm saying? So even his homies, you feel me? He just don't, you got to grow up, bro. You got to grow up. I'm here at college, Cah. You feel what I'm saying? you want to, nigga, what we look, what we doing? Right.
Starting point is 00:12:55 You feel me, nigga, help me with this class. I don't know what the fuck going on. Right. You feel what I'm saying? Then we bow from Compton. What that make us looking like? You put, you know what I've noticed? You put, it could be two rival sides, right?
Starting point is 00:13:09 It could be people who rival every day. You could put two people in a fucked up situation, and they don't even like each other. But I guarantee you they're going to figure out a way to make it out because they both still have the same agenda. Come on now. You know what I'm saying? They still have the same agenda.
Starting point is 00:13:27 And I'm talking about put them in something that it's going to take both of them to get out. You want me to show you what that is? Prison. It's a misconception out here in these streets, bro. I don't know. I want to let y'all know. Ain't no enemies in there.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Everybody is everybody. You feel what I'm saying? So that's why I come out and I'm seeing this shit out in the streets. It's like, bro, do you know? that's gonna be your homie. Well, I've done, I know a little bit about jail, you know, there's one thing that stands out before anything and that's politics.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Politics is the number one thing that moves through every jail in America today. You know, you can't spread with certain people or you can't do certain things with certain people. Like I remember, man, I don't know if they thought I was Spanish or I was Mexican or whatever the case may be, but you know, I was in 23-hour lockdown, man. and did that shit just in county. They put me on the bad side. They don't put me on the good side
Starting point is 00:14:25 where you can dorm with everybody, man. They put you made 23-hour lockdowns, man. You only get let out an hour. And that hour is, you know, 15 minutes to eat in a piece of all that, you know, and then you probably get 30 minutes you can go take a shower, go do whatever you're going to do.
Starting point is 00:14:38 But, you know, being with even a south side or me and him, like, he knew. I'm from the black side, bro. So, like, it was certain things that we couldn't do. Like, we couldn't spread together. Like, it was certain things. Like it was just certain politics, man. It's weird, you know?
Starting point is 00:14:53 You can't work out with a homie. You can't do, you know what I'm saying? Me and him was cool. You know what I'm saying? Me and him was cool, man. Like, it wasn't no problems, but like just certain things that we couldn't do because of politics, man. And it really stands up. And I want people to know that, man.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Like, that's what really goes on. Like, there's probably more respect in the jail system between inmates than there will ever be out on the street. Come on now. I'm just being honest with you, man. It's more structure. It's more culture. to it, you know, you really got to go to to kangaroo court. You got to. You know,
Starting point is 00:15:24 that's the worst one, because that one's going to be the truth. That's where the street's going to answer your ass. You know what I'm saying? It's not about, man, what no judge can say, no, man. It's about what the people, man, and your peers say. I mean, that's shit tricky because look who my best friend is right now to this day, Josh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:40 That's crazy. White boy, Josh. Josh is my best friend, bro. You know what? He's my partner, too, man. He rub off good vibes, man. He ain't never on no sucker shit. Me and him had to do some business yesterday. He made my people feel real good about the business that we're doing, you know, here today. You feel what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:15:59 So that's why it's mine fucking like, come on now. Y'all going to fucking wash my brain to be like this in here. Then I get out. Look who put me on. You know what I'm saying? Let's dive into that real quick. You becoming a part of No Jumper and you know you doing what you're doing. How long have you been with No Jumper?
Starting point is 00:16:20 now that you can, man, you know, I'm so blessed about this situation. I know it's been a year in about two weeks and two days.
Starting point is 00:16:29 There's a lot of people, there's a lot of people that don't keep a job for fucking two days and fucking two minutes. Come on. You know, let alone to be with somebody,
Starting point is 00:16:36 man, for a year and some change and, you know, bringing some diversity to the situation, you know, I want people to know, man, like for no jumper,
Starting point is 00:16:47 they have brought, they have opened the doors to a lot of people who just want a chance at something, you know, want to be able to be great. And I feel like they open the door for you as well, you know, because we're here for you. This is your interview. So I believe that they've really opened the door for you to be able to make way. Bro, and you, shit, hit that shit on the bulls. All right.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Talk about it when you first came. Like, what do you remember when you first came and you, because it's your first, like, gig, like, that you feel like you've really took serious? That man is a family. Hell yeah. It's the only job I'm ever going to take seriously. You feel what I'm saying? Because it's a family-oriented gig, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:17:24 So from the jump, bro, so let me tell you, I'm in Compton. Little bro, A.D., hit me up. Hey, Kiki, man, you know that no jumper shit I had you watched the other day? I'm like, yeah, he's like, bro, I'm about to get a show. I'm like, what? That's dope. He's like, yeah, I'm going to do my first episode, come up there and hang out and meet everybody, you feel me? I come up here, boom, I got on the two-see baby shirt.
Starting point is 00:17:46 I see Josh, me and Josh cool, but we didn't talk that much, you feel me? So they bring up that they doing an after show. You feel me? He's like, hey, man, you want to get on this after show with me? So I'm like, all right, for sure. So we sitting over there at that table. And I'm looking at the chat, bro, and I'm reading, who is the dude that look like LeBron?
Starting point is 00:18:08 Who is that? Who is the dude with the beer? And I'm like, hey, cuss, who is these motherfuck? I'm like, you feel? I'm like, hey, can they see me right now? Yeah. And did Joshy do this? And then I'm like, wait, that's the We Live thing?
Starting point is 00:18:24 I'm like, hold on. And I'm reading, reading, reading. My brother's just talking, doing this little thing. I'm like, wait. I'm still stuck, bro. I see three screens. I'm like, what is really good? Boom.
Starting point is 00:18:36 They tell me we live. I'm like, hey, so they can see me right now? You feel me from the block. I'm like, eh, eh, I get turned it up. I'm like, yeah, it's your boy, big geeky. I'm on no jumper tonight. Well, we made the pasta dance? What?
Starting point is 00:18:50 Bro, it's legendary. That moment, bro, like made up a dance. Adam called in. Who the fuck is that dude? Making up dances. You put me on the story before I even met him. You feel what I'm saying? So it just happened organically.
Starting point is 00:19:03 It wasn't something that was planned. It wasn't something. Ain't that the best things that ever happened in the world to anybody is the things that are not planned. You can't make it up. You can't fucking make it up. Like, that's what blows my mind away, bro. You know what I'm in jail, not even. thinking about nothing like this.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Well, I want to, I want to, I want to touch on that part of your life. And we don't got to get too in detail, you know, but just when you went to jail, what year was this? 2014. Okay. Get locked down. Let's, let's dive into it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:38 What did it happen, man? What do you remember from the time it started to the time it ended? Okay, the time it started, 2014, I'm a security guard at the moment in the city of L.A. So I'm a security guard and fucking I get hip to the damn iPhones. You feel me, all these different websites, these data apps and shit. So I hop on tag.com. I made a little accounting shit, right? So a female hit me up.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Hey, daddy, what's up? So you know, you feel me, you coming from the block, you know what that means, right? So I'm like, well, what's up? Tell me all about it, you feel me? So boom, by me talking back. Talking back was a no-go right there. So that's how this is all started, bro. It was a whole catfish federal pimp steam.
Starting point is 00:20:29 You feel what I'm saying? The police are trying to find new pimps. So by me conversating back, now I'm a new pimp. And I'm sitting in a fucking security booth, bro. Bored out of my mind doing a graveyard shift, texting back. You get what I'm saying? So it's like, boom. We're talking for five months, fam
Starting point is 00:20:49 Five months. They're like, I can't send you no pictures. So I'm like, you can't send me no pictures. I don't even want to, you feel me? Let's not talk no more.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Meet me here. Now, I'm not meeting you nowhere. Okay, I'm gonna send you some money. No, don't send me shit. I got a job.
Starting point is 00:21:05 I'm sending pictures of this fucking forget. You're smart. No, you was actually like, but it wasn't even like being smart because you wasn't being funny. You was just being real. You was just like,
Starting point is 00:21:14 no, this is really happening. Like, I'm not. I'm not faking it. No, I'm not faking it. And from what I'm getting from you, you're not keeping it 100 for what you're saying you are. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:21:23 Yeah. At this moment, you're pandering me. You feel me? You're pandering me. You're knocking me. That was cold. I'm a security guard, fam. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:35 You feel like I'm a security guard? So you've got to know the do nose and the don't nose. Bro, what do I do right here? I'm a security guard. You're a security guard here. Like, you get what I'm saying? That's my best friend. High-paid security guard, by the way.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Now, yeah, now we didn't, we didn't top, we didn't top flight of this. High-paid security guard, man. Just so y'all know, that means that he going to highly do some shit. Oh, me. Just so y'all know, when they highly paid, they're highly going to do some shit on your ass. I will crash you. Plan. Back to the story.
Starting point is 00:22:04 So, so they, you feel me, start the conversation. We're talking, you feel me chopping it up. I'm from the street. So I will say y'all got me with the trick. Y'all got me. You feel I'm saying. So at the end of the day, I get locked up for actually portraying myself as a pimp. You feel what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:22:22 That's what I get. So they hit me with pimping, pandering, human trafficking with no human. Tell me how is that possible, famed? To human traffic, you have to traffic a human, correct? Correct. You have to meet somebody, correct? Correct. All right.
Starting point is 00:22:42 I'm going to say this I've noticed that I don't really like to talk about it you know I like to keep pushing past you know because we're in a positive place we're in a better space today but I hate that I really believe that
Starting point is 00:23:05 they found out that a lot of diverse people let's just say in color has played the game so it's just another way because like why are you giving people who I understand if they dealt with kids. I understand if they was just beating a bitch to a bloody pulp man. She's hung
Starting point is 00:23:24 up on the fucking and even if there was even talk of that and she said that okay you want to get them all right cool but they I feel like they have used the game as a crutch to put more people with melanin and their skin away from it. Come on man.
Starting point is 00:23:40 That's just me. That's just what I feel about it man. I just anything that's got some they wouldn't have did that shit to know white folks bro there's a lot of white folks out there pimping today bro a lot of white I'm talking about man pimping systems pimping all types of shit pimping through man
Starting point is 00:23:55 businesses and taking more than what they're supposed to or nigga just dogging people doing all the weird shit but y'all don't ever talk about that you just want to target certain groups it's certain groups of people that I feel like are being targeted my man like bro y'all really took
Starting point is 00:24:12 four years of my life. For something you were... For something y'all started. Like, you get what I'm saying? Like, this is not me contacting somebody. Y'all contacted me. Oh, they're very good at getting you. But the person that was probably able... I promise you. The person that was probably sitting next door to you was a full-blown
Starting point is 00:24:30 rapist, pedophile. They wasn't looking at him. Bro, watch this. They wasn't looking at him. They more concentrated on you. And I got to say that, man, because it's a fucking problem in our system, man. There's an error. Watch this. bro, this is what hurted my family out that whole situation, fam. Y'all put this on me, right? Now you know preliminary hearing is
Starting point is 00:24:51 where they put everything on the table, the judge got to read this. That's your pretrial pretty much. That's your pre-trial. Preliminary is your pretrial. We're about to put everything on the table. This is what this man did. This is this.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Bro, my whole family, bro, thought it was a real victim. I'm sorry to put that out there, but y'all really thought that I did this. Like, you feel me? but we all good now, but y'all thought I did this shit, and that shit is not cool. So, preliminary hearing, the judge says,
Starting point is 00:25:20 we're going to call out our first witness. The DA says, there's no witness. Just say, so what are we doing here? Oh, this is the Orange County whoopty, whoopty who put this together. The witness will be a detective. Bro, a fat Arabian dude came out, So I'm texting a fat man the whole time. It's never a woman involved.
Starting point is 00:25:50 No woman. You get what I'm saying? So it's just like, first of all, you portray yourself as a woman. That's pandering, car? You get what I'm saying? At its highest extent. Well, what there was,
Starting point is 00:26:04 there was no wherever you may have been at that time, I don't know, or whatever was going on at the time, there was no entrapment law. There was no entrapment law. So like pretty much what they did was, man, and we got to talk about it. Like they kind of played on, you know, it being no entrapment law.
Starting point is 00:26:22 And like they can't sit there. They just kind of pulled you in, man. They just kind of pulled you in, to be honest with you, and that's fucked up. Watch this, Crow. There was an entrapment law. Because every folks that I'm meeting that's in there sitting down with me,
Starting point is 00:26:37 you're going home, player. You're going home, bro. You're going home. You want me to tell you why? Because entrapment rules. Bro, Orange County has their own privately owned jail. Orange County's the worst place. Listen, and I hate to say it.
Starting point is 00:26:50 But Orange County is one of the worst places. I've never heard more people having problems through Orange County, San Ana, than I ever have anywhere. I'm going to just be honest with you, man. Like, they're not playing around there. I don't know what the case may be or what they're really pushing on
Starting point is 00:27:07 if they got a lot of good money that they push it. through them police departments, but man, then people ain't playing around there, man. Keep your ass on up out of that motherfucker, man. I'm telling everybody, keep your ass from around here. Now, watch this. This is the coldest part about it.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Remember where I said, I started, where I got arrested at? L.A. Harbor, fam. L.A. Harbor. That's not Orange County. You feel what I'm saying? People treat it, man, just as such. It's the same. Hey, man, same boundaries for them people.
Starting point is 00:27:34 No, this, you're speaking facts. Bro, they use L.A. Harbor to pull up on me. Yeah. I get to L.A. Harbor Station, they're asking me about somebody that I... I don't mean to interrupt you. I don't mean to interrupt you. I just want to know, because I'm curious. Yes.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Did they have a different police department transport you? Yes, L.A. Harbor. They took me to they station. They started interrogating me. But who was it that originally that grabbed you? Orange County. But then they sent the harbor to come get you. Correct.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Because I worked in Harbor. Fucking. Come on, bro. That's why everything you just said just went full, circle, bro. They, not to say it like this, Orange County y'all cool, but on certain shit. You feel what I'm saying? But that's wrong what y'all doing to us, man. And this is the first time I ever spoke about this. You feel me? But I feel in a safe place with my brother, you feel me at home in the stadium to bring this up? You feel what I'm saying? And that shit was
Starting point is 00:28:29 wrong. How y'all did me, bro? So you feel like they entrapped you off statistic? Not because that's what you were really doing. You were just really? just chopping it up with a chick, man. Shit, chicks are going to say a lot of things. Men know this. Shit, we're going to bypass a lot of things. I mean, if that's not what you're doing, that's not what you were doing.
Starting point is 00:28:52 You were just chopping it up with somebody and thought that it was going to be something cool. Whoever knows what things land differently with different people, man. Shit, we got to accept that. I'm chopping it up with somebody who's, like, their lingo is the culture of where I grew up. You get what I'm?
Starting point is 00:29:08 Hey, Daddy. See, for instance, with that daddy that's going on nowadays, women stop using that word. You feel what I'm saying? Because everybody ain't your daddy. You feel what I'm saying? So some people are going to take it the wrong way. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:29:22 So that's where it got chopped up by me knowing crips and pimps. Oh, I know that daddy term is... I like to be treated like out of Jackson 5. Treated their daddy. Call me Joseph. Joseph. Call me Joseph. If you call me, Daddy, you ain't got to call me Joseph.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Call me Joseph. Joseph. He don't call me daddy. He don't call me nothing. No poppy, no nothing, man. Call me Joseph. Yeah, so a whole nothing to shell, bro. They entrapped me. You feel me? So the preliminary hearing, they see the fat dude come out, bro. My grandma pass out. You feel what I'm saying? My dad, he fucks up and calls a retrial because he's tripping now. He's cussing out everybody because he thought some fucking female was literally about to come out and point out his son and say, he did this, he did this, he did this. No female ever in. involved. And you know where we come from. Paperwork
Starting point is 00:30:13 don't lie. That's what got me. You feel me. Paperwork is everything. I'll be a person that stand on that one. You can't tell, not no motherfucker that I don't really been through some shit. You can't come tell them no false shit about a person because they're going to tell you man immediately, man. Pull up the paperwork. Where the paperwork at? Pull it up. You can't just accuse somebody. They fuck around and beat your ass up.
Starting point is 00:30:35 Just for falsely accusing somebody and you ain't even got no paperwork on them, man. I remember I was in jail one time bro and that shit really do come about man I remember this one dude man he was in there with us he was cool with everybody yeah it was cool with everybody his celly one day
Starting point is 00:30:51 we only 23 hour lockdown his celly one day it was it was like lunchtime or something and his celly refused to lock back down with him and we're already all in our sales so we're all trying to figure out why yeah we're all trying to figure out why
Starting point is 00:31:09 It's silly. They've been cool. They've been in the same cell. But man, shit. I've been there already for a month and a half, so I'm watching that shit. Y'all niggins have been in the same shit, man, the whole time. Working out, eating all that shit. He refused to lock down with old boy because, man, he ended up getting his paperwork, his discovery.
Starting point is 00:31:26 He came back in when he went to court. And it said, because, you know, people have paperwork parties. So it said that, it said that, you know, he was touching kids. So he refused to lock back down with him. He said, if y'all locked me back down with him. with him, I can't tell you what's gonna happen to him. It's gonna go down. They end up moving him, man.
Starting point is 00:31:44 They moved him right then and there. Bro, we used to hear, like, that paperwork party ain't no joke though. You feel me, that she used to come through on people. And then you got, you got real, like, man, that's tell you, your name, you're sharp, but the sharks are in there. You feel what I'm saying? You got people that sitting down that's like, oh, okay. Yeah, he told me he did this, but baby, do me a favor.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Look up this nigga name right quick. Look up this nigga name. It get like that. When a niggas seems suspect and the niggas playing, I'm gonna be real with you, bro. A motherfucker go pull it behind your back and you'll never, you'll never know until a motherfucker can catch your ass in the shower
Starting point is 00:32:21 and he's shanking the shit out your ass, nigga. Because you was playing and you was lying. He don't want to be associated with that shit. I don't know. Because, see, in there, all you have is reputation. That's it. That's all you have is reputation in your good name. It's not about no money.
Starting point is 00:32:35 It ain't about none of your clothes. It ain't about the cars you own because don't nobody in there getting the show that shit. That's why when you get in there, you hear them like, oh man, I didn't have about 30,000, nigga they locked me up with 50,000 a day. You felt, I was in my low-low, like, bro-chicken. Get up over here, every point,
Starting point is 00:32:51 and poke your shit in real quick, nigga. We're gonna get right up on the monitor, nigga, you got me fucked up. Big Frank that's talking like that. He's the one that's asking, hey, youngster, you got two soups. I could hold to, uh, bro, you was just popping all that shit
Starting point is 00:33:05 when we was all over there working out. Now you're asking me for two soup. Stop stunting, bro. I was a cold, nigga, a store. I played store like a motherfucker. What you mean? Because I'm gonna be real with you. I never really ate all that shit.
Starting point is 00:33:17 When I'm in jail, bro, I'm gonna be honest with you, bro. I don't feel that shit. So when I'm in there, I don't eat as much. You know what I'm saying? So I get all this shit. A nigga, I gotta, I'm gonna sell it. I'm a big nigga, man. I'm a selling, nigga, two for threes.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Oh me. I'm gonna be the nigga buying that shit. I do all that shit. I do all that shit. Hey, two for threes, nigga. You liked them little cherry, uh, what's them, cheese? Take Cherry Danish shit.
Starting point is 00:33:39 I used to have all them joints for you. I was putting peanut down. I had all that shit. You know the jalapeno dip, nigga? Had the jalapeno dip, nigga. Some ritz crackers. What you need? He was busing.
Starting point is 00:33:49 I was busting it down for everything, bro. For everything. Nick, I know about all that shit. Hey, I promise you, homie, it ain't nothing like that state cheese. I'm sorry, nigga. When you come... Hey, it's something that tastes different
Starting point is 00:34:01 in that cheese, homie. I don't give a fuck, bro. I don't give a fuck. I gotta say it. I don't have it. Faw, nigga, you know the little tub with the little black top? Little black. I don't fucking.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Man, I want some of that shit right now. You know, I got out one time, bro. And I went online and I looked for that shit. I was trying to look at who sold it. Just on the side. Hey, bro, that was the first place. That was the first place I ever seen. Instant beans.
Starting point is 00:34:28 It was real. Brun. Instant bean, refried beans? Like instant? What's the, hey, I'm going to ask me this. Bro, that shit fucked me up. I hate talking about it, but since we on it. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:34:37 I hate talk about jail shit, bro. They want to hear it, though. They want to hear it for me for show. But we're going to talk about it. What's the most famous spread? Like, what's one of your most famous, like, that you're infamous at? And explain how you make it. All right.
Starting point is 00:34:49 So it's the fucking orange chicken. You feel me? I make Chinese food out of jail food. Me too. You feel me? You feel me? How you make yours? All right.
Starting point is 00:34:59 I use the squeeze cheese. You feel me? So I use peanut butter, you feel me? I make the top ramen. I let it soak in that. And I use, like, some. like peanuts or cashews, you feel me. I chop them up and let it soak in that shit, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:35:14 So that's my chal mane right there that I just made. So now I use a spicy bag of pork rinds. You feel me, I get the jelly. You feel me, the jelly to put up in the bag or whatever. Then I get the orange tank. Like you're making some orange juice. You feel me, orange tank. Put a little water, shake that motherfucker up,
Starting point is 00:35:33 let that sit for like 10 minutes, you feel me? So boom, warm on my shit up. There it is there. My favorite. That's how I know we kind of hitting on the same tip. Because mine was terriaki chicken. Okay. And what we would do was, you know, we'd take like, you know, some chicken noodles or some beef noodles.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Okay. We'd take them. We'd take the spicy pork grinds. Okay. You know, grape jelly. Of course. Grape jelly. Take the grape jelly, man.
Starting point is 00:35:57 You know, add a little bit of water. Shake it up on the pork grinds, man, lay it up over your spread. You feel I'm saying? The first time I ever seen, look, I was in Tennessee. I was locked up in Tennessee, man. Williamson County frankly and I was up in there
Starting point is 00:36:11 with some of them dudes man they was making their spreads like dope like a nigga it was like a block and they would make they spread like it was like a block I'm like damn it'd be in plastic and everything I'd be like man Have you ever seen the one that be
Starting point is 00:36:23 the whole table Hey for real It'd be a real cumbaya You know You're about to just get it in To talk to talk about What really go on jail I'm gonna be honest with you
Starting point is 00:36:34 homie I see a lot what we do blacks what we do to which man out in the streets man we ruthless
Starting point is 00:36:42 towards each other you know that's some of the only times I ever watch us come together like a family and it feel like
Starting point is 00:36:49 it's black everything like when we in here it's black everything no it really is black everything but once we
Starting point is 00:36:55 and this could be with your rivals man but once we get out it's all good you know what I'm saying it's they have a different
Starting point is 00:37:02 respect for you we ain't fucking with you no more it's all good now man, Barry the hatchet. Nah, it's all good. We ain't doing that no more.
Starting point is 00:37:08 We ain't even gonna talk about that no more. But, man, y'all niggas with some of the closest people inside. You'll let me tell you why that respect get built, bro? Because you're at your lowest at that point, fam, and then these other brothers see you like,
Starting point is 00:37:23 bro, you get off the phone and say something happened to a family member or something because it always happens. You feel me? And then they see you hang up the phone. Fuck. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:37:34 And then it's like, what happened to me? And then it's, oh, the homie, little cousin, you feel me, got dry by or something. So now you see everybody right there come together for that one individual, bro, because we are, whoever, no matter who you are, we are family, we all here together.
Starting point is 00:37:51 You feel what I'm saying? So you see that come up up. That's cool. Then you'll have somebody that don't get stored. You feel what I'm saying? And it's just like, oh, he looked at it's the little dusty nigga. Why do people think, like, that shit's bad, when somebody don't get store.
Starting point is 00:38:07 You want me tell you why happens? Like, I don't think people even understand that shit, man. That shit hurts to go hungry, man. Bro. Especially in jail, man. Don't nobody want that old bullshit-ass processed-ass shit. That shit crazy, bro. That shit crazy, homie.
Starting point is 00:38:19 A nigga want a honey bun. A nigga want to be able to taste something. Man, he don't got nothing else, man. They already done took every fucking thing else from us. Oh, me, bro. Like, that should be... It's double-sided with that, though. Because I didn't got out and seen why somebody didn't get store.
Starting point is 00:38:33 because they're putting themselves back into this going back situation. You feel me? I didn't see people like me. I'll come through three bags. I got AD as my brother. You feel what I'm saying? He heard over it. He rapping about it in his songs and shit.
Starting point is 00:38:47 So boom, I get him to send me two bags worth of shit. I got my chick. You feel me? So I'm blessed. I care packages, right? On me, yeah. My care packages is a motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:38:56 If y'all don't know nothing about them, man, they call eye cares. So if you got people that's locked up right now, man, and you know they're up in their home? You go to Icare.com to whatever jail they in, man, and get their ass right, man. Go on and send them a package, man. It don't cost that much the biggest bag, and you can send them something for the next month. $100.
Starting point is 00:39:14 $100, man. They only could spend $110. Come on. Send your people something, man. Like, man, do you know, because they're walking around there being judged by that. You feel what I'm saying? And then if they got these stories that this is who I was when I was out, this is who I am when I'm out there
Starting point is 00:39:33 and they ain't got nothing on their books. And they're looking out for y'all when they was out there doing that? Come on, man. Help them. You feel what I'm saying? Because you're giving somebody a walk of confidence too. You feel me being able to help the next man
Starting point is 00:39:48 because he don't have nothing. It's just like, you know what? This was me on the outside. If I take, with me and you go somewhere to eat, you know we're eating good. Just because I'm not, I got this. No, that's just because I asked you. I've watched you go get everybody maestroes.
Starting point is 00:40:05 I don't watch you. You know what I'm saying? There's shit that didn't cost money. Like it's not about the food, man. It's behind the reason. It's the appreciation. You feel what I'm saying? Being here, bro.
Starting point is 00:40:14 For real. Bro, going coming from that, bro, and then being here, bro, I'm appreciative of everything that's happening. I was going to ask you, after everything we don't talk about, because we got a couple more minutes, we've got in about a year. But this is the part, like after all that, I want to get to, out of everything you've ever been through do you understand why you're here today
Starting point is 00:40:37 for sure for sure I understand why I'm here today I know exactly why I'm here today and I know out of everything I've been through I could tell you the exact date when I realized it July 2nd 2019 when I was released that's the day I realized why I was put on this earth because it was just like
Starting point is 00:40:57 how do you come up out of something that people planted on you you get what i'm saying like they planted this on you how'd you come up out of that it's just to me that shit is groundbreaking bro like it's more than like i believe in god but it's more than god it's my journey here's your second chance to go be who you're supposed to be fuck up what you end up here or watch we send somebody your way to stop it. What if God was a part of your journey the whole time? No, he is. He is. He is. He is. He is. There was somebody. And I'll take what you say and say like, okay, cool. There's people that say they don't believe in God. Okay, cool. But there's got to be some higher up. Oh, no. I'm just trying to like vibe with people when they say that, okay, well, I don't, not saying
Starting point is 00:41:48 you don't, but people will be like, man, I don't know if there's a God. Okay, well, there's got to be some, There's got to be some type of overall being. Somebody. Something. God was July 2nd. Yeah. Now it was from, he was clipping my wings, bro. You get what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:42:07 It was now my time. You feel me? That was the chance. So now it was like, find you. Find you. I'm giving you back. Find you. Did you think that you would be where you're at today?
Starting point is 00:42:21 Did you think that you were ever going to make it? to where you're at today, or did you think you kind of landed on this by luck? Both, if that makes any sense, both. Because I always felt I was gonna be somebody. I always knew you wasn't gonna be this size for no reason, put it to use, it's gonna get you somewhere.
Starting point is 00:42:40 Personality is key. You feel what I'm saying? It's everything. I know how to talk to- It's everything. I know how to talk to gangsters. I know how to talk to businessmen. I know how to talk to people that sell shit on the street.
Starting point is 00:42:51 You feel me like fucking the taco man. the ice cream man. Like, put me in any situation. I know how to get us that deal. I want people to know what you just said was a key to life, to being great to everything. Be a chameleon and be able to adapt to your situations. And that what it's about the most is being able to adapt to your situations.
Starting point is 00:43:22 You can't just always think. that you're always going to be, no, you got to change color for that. You have to change color for that, and that's okay. You have to be able to adapt it. That's what makes you a true human being. You've got to be able to have different sides to yourself. Facts. That be able to adapt to certain situations that you may land in.
Starting point is 00:43:42 What you say, you always got to be you, right? You can't never change that. I might not know the right word to say at every time, but you're going to understand what the hell I'm trying to say. Yeah. I'm going to say this, man. I'm going to say this. This was one of the most in depth
Starting point is 00:44:00 to just hear somebody speak. You never stuttered. I could tell because, you know, there was a piece of your story that you told me in there and I was waiting for you to tell me and you say it here on the mic and you fuck up and you did and you told it the same way. And when somebody tells the same,
Starting point is 00:44:14 when somebody tells a story the same way over and over again, it must be fucking true. Come on now. that's what makes this shit real Kiki, no jumper Skii I appreciate you for stopping by church and doing this man on such
Starting point is 00:44:32 short notice Come on now That's what we do it Because you didn't have to do it But you did and you did it for real love one Let's do it I'm for real man We got some more work me and you coming
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