No Jumper - The Sharp Tank Episode 15 w/ Tatiana

Episode Date: March 11, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Sharp Tank. No jumper. Oh, you laughing already. I'm sorry, I can't help it. Hey, hey, man. Sharpest, coolest podcast in the world. And today I got the beautiful, prestigious. Tatiana Vidalia.
Starting point is 00:00:22 Did I say that right? The last name Vedelia. Where'd you get that from? Where'd that come from? Honestly, that was what I used as my stripper. back when I was dancing. Ooh, it's dancing. Putting it off in their face just a little bit.
Starting point is 00:00:37 How did motherfuckusole smell most nights in the club when you be up in there? How motherfuck it smells? Was it pleasant or some bitches to smell like they was probably a little off time to time? Smells like cigarettes in the club. So tell me a little bit about
Starting point is 00:00:52 yourself. Where are you from like originally or where you reside? Well, first of all, I wasn't born and raised in one place. My father was in the Army, so, you know, wasn't really, like, raised in one place, ever. But eventually, like, you know, when he retired from the military, like,
Starting point is 00:01:08 I was living in Texas for a while, El Paso, to be exact. And from there, once I was, like, 18, I didn't want to be there no more. So my mom, eventually, like, my parents had, like, got divorced, so my mom moved to Florida. My dad stayed there. So I wanted to go to Florida. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:24 So at 18, I moved to Florida. Right. And then I've been there ever since. What part of Florida? Tampa. Tampa. Tampa's nice. Yeah. How the good things go down in Tampa. I like that. I like that.
Starting point is 00:01:39 So tell me, you know, coming up for you, you know, and I say this. See, when I do interviews, I like to, nobody's, everybody comes from something, you know, to get to where they're at today. And I've noticed like a lot of people there, they always act like it. They just popped off good. And I don't understand that part, you know. They always act like they just started off grand, and it's just, it's grand today, you know. But everything, every story comes with a struggle, you know,
Starting point is 00:02:07 every story comes with the darkness. You know, so I'd like to tap in just a little bit of that today with you and just see if you got that. You're trying to get to know my demons. Hey, shit, don't bring them here. We just want to talk about them. Yeah. Tell me a little bit about your upbringing.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Was it always cool? Did you have a, you know, a fair upbringing to where, you know, everything was cool. You didn't really have no problems. You didn't, no trials, tribulations. No, I mean, I didn't have, like, one of those upbringings where, you know, I guess there was, like, a sad story where, like, oh, there was a lot of, like, child molestation and, you know, a bunch of nonsense like that. You know, I think it was pretty normal. I think probably the biggest traumatizing thing probably, like, was my parents' divorce because I used to get teased at school. Like, because all these, all, like, a lot of the kids that I knew, like, all of, they all come from, like, single parent households.
Starting point is 00:03:03 And everybody was, like, divorced. And they were like, oh, it's going to happen to your parents, too. And I used to talk shit, like, no, it's not going to happen to me. You know, like, you guys are just, like, hating, you know. But, yeah, and then eventually it happened. And I was like, oh. How did you feel about that? How old were you when that happened?
Starting point is 00:03:21 God, I think I was, like, 11, 12, maybe. So you was young. Mm-hmm. but you were still old enough to understand it. Yeah, which kind of made it worse. Yeah. Because it was like, I don't know. I didn't like that.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Like I thought, you know, like what we had going on was pretty solid, but apparently there was obviously problems. Like, I mean, and I didn't know. Like, I was young. So it's like, you know, when you saw your parents arguing and fighting all the time, you know, just yelling and screaming at each other, like sometimes the fights were funny to me. Yeah. You know, because I, you know, I don't know what's going on.
Starting point is 00:03:54 I'm just a kid. Like, oh, they're just, you know, they're just doing them. Right? But yeah, and then eventually it was like my mom was telling me stuff. And then I was just like, oh, no. And then, yeah, they both like had to sit me down, have a conversation like, yeah, like, you know, we still love you, but we're just not going to be together anymore. There's not going to be a no more of a mom and dad thing. But, you know, we're always going to be here for you and da-da-da.
Starting point is 00:04:18 And like, and I think like one of the things my mom was always really worried about was like my father not being in my life enough. but she never followed what the courts told her to do anyway with visitation. She wanted my dad to be like there all the time as much as possible. So she would let my father like take me every weekend. And I would see him all the time. So I always had my dad around and because that was important to her that I, you know, and she didn't want me like coming up thinking like, oh like, you know, I tried to keep you from your father, you know, type thing.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Like she didn't want none of that going on. So I didn't really have like those kinds of. the problem. So I guess it was fair. Right. It was a fair upbringing. Yeah. See, because I know a lot of people, like you said, you know, they actually sat you down and told you, you know, hey, we ain't going to, we don't think we're going to be able to do this, but, you know, we still love you. See, a lot of people don't get that. You know, motherfuckers just disappear. Yeah. You know, motherfuckers be gone. I got lucky. I honestly can say because
Starting point is 00:05:16 from a lot of the, you know, people that I knew and that I was, you know, around, like, it wasn't like that for them. You know what I mean? I got pretty lucky on the fact that, like, My parents handled it pretty, I mean, I guess you could say logically, responsibly. There wasn't, it wasn't really like messy, messy. And if there was any mess, they did a very good job of hiding it from me. That's my fucking should. Yeah, they did not, they did their best to try not to let it affect me as much as possible. A little bit of your backstory, you know, I know you come from, you know, you've been in the game, you know, been in the game, your only fans, you know, seems like your only fans is.
Starting point is 00:05:55 flourishing, you know, do got pages of shit that be rocking. I do, I do respect that. It is now. But do you think like, you know, you say you've seen your dad on weekends and shit like that, do you think that affected you or pushed you more towards that
Starting point is 00:06:11 lifestyle or was that something that you chose all by yourself? Um, oh God, see, I don't want to rat out my dad. Oh man, like clearly there was some fidelity issues, okay, you know, there. And so that kind of like really didn't give me like a very good perception on men for a while
Starting point is 00:06:41 because I kind of felt like, well, damn, like, you know, if this happened, you know, with my parents, you know, then what's, you know, I'm going to go out here and the same thing's going to happen to me. And then everyone else that I knew, it was the same thing for them too. Like I saw, like I said, everybody was growing up in single parent households. I didn't see anybody's parents together. And for the most part, all the women got cheated on. So I was kind of like, well, then, you know, my mom would tell me things like,
Starting point is 00:07:06 oh, you know, you got to learn how to cook and you got to learn how to do it. And I used to think to myself, you know, what for? What for if I'm just going to get screwed? Well, you know, I just feel like, you know, naturally for a woman, she should naturally want to withhold those duties. You know what I'm saying? And I mean, nobody, nobody's perfect, man, you know, but you got to do your due diligence of what you are, man or woman.
Starting point is 00:07:34 You got to stand up, man. You got to be able to, yeah, people fuck up. People don't, you know, have hiccups along the way. But in all actuality, if you really think about it, man, who's perfect? Who? All you can do is just be the best version of you, your perfect, you. You know what I'm saying? So I fuck has got to like, I think the world would be,
Starting point is 00:07:54 A better place, man. If, you know, we learned how to get over a few things, you know, because people always got petty problems with each other, man. You know, go back to your mom and your dad, you know, they possibly could have worked out, you know, but it's always petty problems. People got to remember, man, in relationships or anything that you do, nothing's going to be perfect, man.
Starting point is 00:08:13 You got to ride the way. Lushy, by the way, catch the man, catch the way. You did, what I'm saying? Like, you got to, you're going to have to do some things, man. You're going to have to go through some things. Nothing is easy. Everybody wants the easy way out, even in relationships or coming together doing business with people, man.
Starting point is 00:08:29 It's not going to always be like that. Well, and to answer your question thoroughly, I mean, I got in the game because I guess it was like for a couple different reasons. I mean, I guess a psychologist would probably sit there and say like, oh, well, you know, you had those, you know, you didn't really, you thought like guys were going to be messed up so you figured, like, who cares, right? So you were going to, like, it's natural. that you probably were going to go that route.
Starting point is 00:08:55 I don't know if that's really what drove me, but what really drove me was the money. Yeah. You like the bread. I like the money. So, and I really had, you know, a very strong mental fortitude for it. You know, so I went in that direction mostly because I wanted to make money. And I was able to see, like, how other girls, like, were able to, like, really make bread like that.
Starting point is 00:09:22 But now I wanted to surpass all that sharp. Like I was, I wanted to, I wanted to really make money like on an on an obscene level. Yeah. You know what I mean? So I wanted to be on that and on a Cole Smith shit. Yeah. Man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:36 She was a cold. Yeah. That was the level I was trying to go on. So, yes. So that's, that was really what drove me to getting into the game. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:47 That's real. Hey, man. I mean, shit, you know, most motherfuckers, you know, they, they, like I said, man you know when I got into it you know I'm retired now but when I got into it you know I got into it to make a better way I didn't want to be penny pension or playing games you know if you was going to do anything the era I come from if you was going to do anything you was going to do it for real and not for play and you know what whether people hated it or loved it man hey you're going to stand up for it because that's you you know you got to take the you got to take the goods
Starting point is 00:10:17 with the bad you know right it's it's a it's a cold game you know and I'm sure especially for You, I mean, shit, when did you get, when did you first get into it? When you start, like, really fucking with it. Do you remember when you just start moving fast? I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say it was early 20s. Early 20s. Early 20s. I came in kind of, I came in kind of young.
Starting point is 00:10:36 Yeah. My brain was like a sponge. See, people don't do that no more and really soak it up for what it is. And I'm glad to, you know, hear somebody like yourself, you got into it at a, at a real time. You know, to where you got to get some real game about yourself and have some real respect about it, you know. People have to understand something. And anything that you do, playing in the game-wise,
Starting point is 00:11:01 it's never going to last forever. So you've got to get in while the getting is good. Mm-hmm. You know? Get in where you fit in. Make your money, plan your work, and work your plan. Boom. That's it.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Yeah. So, you know, you say you were 20 years, getting into early 20s. Mm-hmm. What was the first place you touched down at that you felt like, you know, this is it. This is what I want to do. So I started dancing. And I started dancing at a club out in Pascoe County called Bear Assets.
Starting point is 00:11:39 Bear Assets. Yes, Bear Assets. Shout out to Bear Assets, mate. Shout out to Bear Assets. I got a real one in the building today. Because, like, honestly, and you know what, I didn't start off like no small time. Like, you know how some girls, like, they came through, you know, dancing at some of them little topless bars. No, I went in full throttle, full nude, full liquor, full contact.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Yeah. Okay, so. That's a lot to do because, you know, dealing with people that are drunk, wasted, you know, they're going to want to grope and do all the types of shit in the VIP rooms, you know, and you got to be able to. It's a dangerous game because people got to understand something, even in them clubs, man. It takes 10 seconds for something to happen. Bad, you know what I'm saying? So I'm sure it was a I'm sure it was a lot you know jumping in like that Well I that's I've always kind of been that way it's like if I'm gonna do it I'm gonna
Starting point is 00:12:29 Cause like because I because of who I was you know getting my support system from was kind of like well you know you don't have to start here You know you could start you know one of these and I was like no if I'm gonna do this I want to I'm gonna go all the way like I'm gonna do it 100% And I knew that was where the more money was gonna be at yeah if you're if you're going full nude you're gonna make more money Yeah. So I was like, no, I want to make all the money I can get. Right, right. You know, so I was like, no, I literally took myself and threw myself to the wolves. Mm.
Starting point is 00:13:00 I see that shit. You know, I didn't care. Through it to the wolves. You know, I had found out a little backstory about you. It sounded like there was somebody that you was, and we ain't got to bring them no names, no nothing, you know, but just to speak on it, you, you had somebody that you was fucking with that you was really, you know, you had somebody. you know, you had yourself committed to that I believe he had passed away. Tell me a little bit about that. Well, when I met him at the time, like, he already had retired from pimping, you know.
Starting point is 00:13:32 So when I kind of came into the mixture, you know, he kind of like took me under his wing, you know, and taught me the game and everything, you know, everything I know. I learned how to crash some pockets from him. So, but I'm not going to lie. You know, he kind of broke a lot of rules for me. You know what I'm saying? He didn't really, I didn't really have to go through, I guess, like what other girls went through in the game.
Starting point is 00:14:04 I was spoiled. Let's be honest. I'm going to lie. I was a spoiled bitch. I got fucking spoiled. Yeah. Yeah. I got spoiled.
Starting point is 00:14:15 And, you know, and he kind of. contributed to that a little bit. So he broke a lot of rules for me. But again, he was retired and I don't think he was really trying to, you know, 100% go that route. It kind of just started going that way because, you know, more females started coming up into the mix and then, you know, he had gotten a partner and, you know, and then like they was trying to like, you know, create a little thing that they was trying to do business wise and stuff like that. So it kind of started going that way, but, but. Do you believe, I'm gonna say this,
Starting point is 00:14:52 do you believe that he was, even him breaking all the rules and him doing, could you say that he was genuinely in love with you? Or do you say he would tell you, or do you think that he would tell you that he loved you because he was just afraid to lose you because he was a lot older and you was younger and ain't nobody trying to lose nobody,
Starting point is 00:15:09 hey man, shit, that's a long time, hey man, you got a lot of years that was ahead of you. True. He wanted to get some of them the best ones of you, because you say that it was, was honest what he was doing with you? I felt that it was. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:15:23 I'm really good like when it comes to vibes and energy. So I felt like what he felt for me was real. But could there have been like a combination of like what you're saying? That's possible. I'm not going to rule it out because I'm logical like that. So I'm not going to rule that out. But I do feel what he felt for me definitely was genuine. Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:42 I'm just saying if you're going to be in the game. you got it's a different type of love that come with it you know and I think that you know women that are in the game they use that as oh well you know he loves me you know I'm special I'm up at the top but if you really look at it and he got three other four other chicks that he might be dealing with because I'm sure did he stop even when he was dealing with you did he stop like dealing with other bitches to just deal with you slowly yeah God like it's hard it's like it's like it's like It was just me for a little bit and then like, yeah, some more like kind of came up into the mix because, you know, it just kind of like went down that way, even though he was retired. But like I said, like he, he broke rules, you know, because obviously we were not all treated equally. I was put on this pedestal, right? And everyone else was just like a step underneath me. Not all the way at the bottom,
Starting point is 00:16:50 but because it's like he never, like, treated anyone bad. He always treated everybody in respect, everybody loved him. But I'm sure that it was noticeable that I was here, and they were kind of like right up underneath. And I know that's not. Yeah, that causes problems. Yeah, exactly. And it did.
Starting point is 00:17:09 I'm not going to lie, it did kind of cause some issues where, like, you know, there was some fights and. Man, see. And see, that's That's why I was going to ask her, I'm like, how do you think that, you know, three, four other chicks that might be there and they're seeing this, they're witnessing this,
Starting point is 00:17:28 how do you think they're going to feel about that watching you, you know, it's not, there's no quality. Nobody's, it's no equal. That's not being equal. True, true. At all, you know, you're the one, and I'm not knocking you, hey, he allowed it.
Starting point is 00:17:41 He did it. You just there for the ride of it, baby. You know what I'm saying? Hey, man, you only going to do what a man allows. You know what I'm saying? shit, if he's going to put you to the forefront, shit, he's going to put, you're going to allow to be to put to the forefront, but you got to understand what if
Starting point is 00:17:53 that was you and the tables was turned. Would you stick around for something like that? Probably not. You know what I'm saying? Like, would you stick around if you was the one that was, you know, second, third string and you see him putting this one to the forefront, but you're all supposed to be a team. It's supposed to be some equality, you know?
Starting point is 00:18:09 Right. I don't think, a woman of your structure and just what I've heard of you and know about you, you don't seem like you're sticking around baby for over 24 hours. No, like honestly, I think the reason why I did stick around was because of the way he did things with me. But because I was young, I didn't really, I wasn't paying attention to what was going on like with the other girls like that. It's like I was so focused on like what I had going on, like my own goals, like my own shit, like what I had going on with him that I didn't really care about what was going on over here. It wasn't important to me because my mind was elsewhere.
Starting point is 00:18:44 I was so aloof, right? I was just like, whatever. Like, I got shit I gotta do. Like, I gotta do this. You know, I got money to make. And I can't be, like, worrying about that. That's his job, like you said. You know?
Starting point is 00:18:55 And I'm like, well, I'm letting him take care of that. You know? Well, you got to think about it. He never really put them problems on you. He put it on the other bitches. You didn't have to worry about that. That was all bypassed for you because you already knew where you stood. Yeah, I was in this protective bubble.
Starting point is 00:19:09 You stayed, you stood at the top of the fucking food chain, you know, and everybody else had to go through all the shit that, you know what I'm saying? you should have probably felt too. It should be equality. Hey, if everybody's going to, everybody need to get treated the same, man, in the mix. It needs to be some fairness.
Starting point is 00:19:23 You know, of course you didn't have to worry about it because, I mean, shit, he didn't give you nothing really to worry about. He was the one that was sitting there pillow talking with you and let you know that, you know, shit, this is going to be a baby. It's me and you. And I get it, but if you're going to do that,
Starting point is 00:19:40 leave with her, you know? And you, him already being older. Take the chick, man, and go. Go be great, man. Go have a life. We're all allowed that at one point in time, man, but motherfuckers be so afraid of what somebody going to say about him, man. Live your life.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Yeah, I mean, you know, it is what it is. I'm sure, like, there was a part of him that did want to do that. That probably was part of the end game. But, you know, then he was, you know, he had all those issues. And, yeah, and then he passed away because he had congestive heart failure. Sorry to hear that. Yeah. You know, he had a murder.
Starting point is 00:20:15 and congestive heart failure. So, like, there was no stop in that. Yeah. You know, and it was, like, it was depressing for everybody, you know, his partner, his family, people, everybody around them, everybody that knew them. It was very, very depressing and very hard to get over. That was, like, a loss keenly felt, okay? And not really sure if I've really completely gotten over it, even to this day.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Yeah, that's, that's I was going to ask you. Like, have you gotten, like, have you dealt with? anybody else since then? Have you just been on your own solo tip? Romantically, you know, like I've, yeah, it's been hard to really get on that level with anyone romantically, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:01 since that. There was, I guess you could say, passing bystandards, but it wasn't like really anyone that I felt was really going to be as solid as he was. A tricky-dicky, one night sticky. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Tricky, one night sticky. Straight up, man, it's over after that, man, she don't even, you probably don't even want her
Starting point is 00:21:26 to call you. You could be like, bro, it was just one time. It just, you know what, though? Like,
Starting point is 00:21:31 I've never really had, like, a whole lot of one night stands in my life. Like, I had had a few, but not like a whole lot, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:39 mostly because, like, I don't know, like, I was always afraid, like, you know, I feel like I'm going to get disappointed
Starting point is 00:21:43 somehow. I feel like if I give up the pussy He's probably gonna disappoint me Like I'm probably not gonna like Because I feel like you know men are not really that Some men are like not I mean like a girl can talk about like being with A thousand men right
Starting point is 00:22:00 And I'm and I'm pretty sure like out of that thousand I bet you like only five or ten of them really fucked her good I mean I think that's within anything You know shit you got gangs you know what I'm saying? Big old gangs. There's only a few that's really riders about the situation. Everybody else is just kind of there.
Starting point is 00:22:19 You know what I'm saying? It's just, that's life. I think that's within anything. See, but I don't want that though. Like, I don't want, like, I don't want meaningless sex. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:22:28 Like, I want... What your mind stimulating before the JJ? Yeah, the vibe. I want the energy. Like, I want all of that. And plus, I want some precision going on. Like, you need to have some skills in the bedroom. Like, don't just come with some, like, whatever.
Starting point is 00:22:43 like you just putting down whatever like because I wouldn't be that way yeah like I'm a perfectionist in everything that I do so I would expect like the partner to be my partner to be the same way you know especially because I really like sex so yeah well
Starting point is 00:22:58 I'll say this was there anybody other than him that's made you feel that same way like for real like people you've met like just from the time how long has he been gone years now it's probably been six years or maybe about six years.
Starting point is 00:23:17 And it still felt like yesterday, huh? Yeah, absolutely. Is there anybody? And it's not about no name, can you just count one, maybe two that you thought you had got close to, you know, throughout the last six years that you felt like, okay, this could be,
Starting point is 00:23:34 you know, he makes me feel the same way this man feel, because, you know, people got to understand something. You know, when a chick give a man some bread, her time, her all. It's very rare. It's hard to do. It's hard to obtain, you know.
Starting point is 00:23:51 It's easy to get some pussy. It's easy to get some sex. You can go get sex from anywhere? True. You know? But can you get somebody's harder bread, time, just genuineness overall? And they say they're really down for you. It's very rare to touch that, especially today, you know?
Starting point is 00:24:09 It's not a lot of real ones still running. running around. Right. You know, so it's very hard to weed through who's what, you know? Yeah, I agree. I agree. I think I had, well, I tried to have a positive attitude, you know, as far as that was concerned. But I never really found, oh, God, like, it's like I had high hopes.
Starting point is 00:24:39 If I was to try to mess with an individual, I would have high hopes, obviously. because I try to hope for the best, but, oh, man, it's just like something would always end up happening, and I would just be like, this shit ain't it. Like, it's a dub, like, I'm going to have to. Me going through, you know, in my past, you know, I've dealt with, I've had a lot of people. I'm not even going to just say women, just women and men, I've had a lot of people that have, like, you know, try to dumb me down or try to, you know, play on that or, you know, make me. feel like, okay, could I be, you know, try to do shit that'll make me scorned or make me bitter,
Starting point is 00:25:18 but I've never took that to the next situation. I've never looked at it like that. I would never allow somebody to gain that much control over me that I take this and I pour it and bleed it all over the next person. See, I, yeah, it's just, I'm not going to lie, though. It's like, I got this paranoia because it's like, I don't want to get disappointed. You know what I mean? And then, like, I'm the type of person that I love hard. You know what I mean? Like I love extremely hard. So I'm protective of this.
Starting point is 00:25:49 You know what I mean? I have to be. You know what I mean? Because who else is going to look out for that? You only got yourself to look out for you. So, you know, when it comes to like dating and all that, it's, it's, especially being in this line of work, it's a challenge. Yeah. Because, you know, a lot of men aren't going to really accept this kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Like, they're not going to accept the way you get your bread or they're going to have, I don't like your Instagram pictures or, oh, you're only, I don't. I don't like the, I don't like the fact that, you know, you're putting your freaking pussy all over Onlyfans or, you know what I mean? Or, like, I don't like this. I don't like your past. I don't like the fact that you, you know, like a lot of guys don't have the mental fortitude to be able to deal with women in this industry. Takes a special kind of man. It does. A special mindset. He has to be very confident within himself and be able to separate business from personal. You know, you got to understand that, like, if I'm doing this, if this is the way I make my money, understand this is about business, this is about making money.
Starting point is 00:26:40 It has nothing to do with my heart. It has nothing to do with pleasure, none of that. It's about money, and that's it. Otherwise, I wouldn't be there. Like, I wouldn't be doing that if it wasn't about some money. Like, why else would I be there. Well, you got to think about it when you go and you deal with people that are, you know, they work a nine to five.
Starting point is 00:27:01 They, you know, they pay rent every month. might take majority of their paycheck and just shit like that. And that's real hardworking people. Just, you know what I'm saying? They really working at it. They really put in eight hours, nine hours a day. So, you know, 10 hours, 12 hours.
Starting point is 00:27:16 So when they come home, I can understand. And I'm just trying to look at it from that mindset. So when they come home, they be wanting a woman in there. They probably don't want her getting ready to go step out, you know, and go be a lady of the night. Not everybody going, not everybody's going to understand that. And that's not saying that you're wrong. That's not saying that you wrong,
Starting point is 00:27:34 but you have to understand some, not everybody's going to accept that. And if they do, they only going to accept it for so long. My vogue is going to tell when that pussy starts feeling regular, when the JJ starts feeling regular, that the real them come out, man. And then you wonder why he then went and cheated on you
Starting point is 00:27:49 with a fat bitch and he named a baby, and had a baby with her and named it blanket. You can't be upset. Like you have to understand the mindset of the person that you're dealing with, man. Are they really ready to? to take in what you're doing. Because, see, it was for many years.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Me being in the game, you know, I had to accept that, you know, hey, man, this woman was going to go out and do whatever she was going to do, man. She was going to come home. She was going to take a shower, and she was going to lay her head right next to mine. And I could accept that. I was okay with that. This is not that being in that game was not for everybody. It was for certain few.
Starting point is 00:28:27 And women needed women that were in the game because it was more women in the game than there was men. True. You know what I'm saying? motherfuckers got to understand you got to be able to resonate with that it takes a certain individual man it takes a certain individual yeah i mean i think i think it also takes a person who's also not very judgmental like i don't really like judgmental individuals because i feel like it's just it's just a waste of time and energy it's so unnecessary you know like i don't i mean you know especially like during the dating process like if you got to add like if a guy like asks you like what your body count is
Starting point is 00:29:00 or something like that i kind of be like what what's really the point of this like I'm going to be honest with you. Whoever said that to you, that's some real square-ass shit to say to you. It is, isn't it? Oh, my God, yes. I don't know. Like, I'm like, why is this, why does this matter? Like, because it doesn't take away from me being a good person.
Starting point is 00:29:19 Like, there's people out there with high body counts that are shitty individuals. And then there's people with high body counts that aren't shitty individuals. So to me, how many partners I've had or what I do to make my money isn't going to take away from me being a good person. Facts. So it's like you should be paying attention to what's in here and what's in here. And nobody does that.
Starting point is 00:29:40 I like that you treat it as such, you know, and you're very respectful. I like how you didn't get on here like some little sorry-ass bitch and be like, oh yeah, I did this with this person, that person, this person, that person. Why blow your bag like that on a platform? Like, it's cool to talk about the stories. But why bring up the people that they deal with, man?
Starting point is 00:30:00 I don't do that. I can't do that sharp. It's like it's like confidentiality. is like very important to me. Like all that stuff's going to the grave with me. It's going to the grave with me. I don't mind sharing some things here and there, you know, but it's like need to know basis.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Like people don't need to be knowing everything about your life and everything you got going on or how much money you make. Like that's dangerous. The richest people in the world don't really be letting people know how much money they have. Some of them even dressed like crap. You would never even know they had a lot of money. Tommy Bahama T-shirt. Hey, Tommy Bahama little button up, some cargo shorts and some new balances, man.
Starting point is 00:30:34 be the richest man in the building. For real. Like, I mean, I think it's okay to stun every now and then, but I feel like, you know, there's some things that should just be kept to yourself. You know, keep that private. You know, you don't need to people. I mean, no disrespect to the girls that want to, like, be doing all that. Like, I'm not going to knock anybody's hustle.
Starting point is 00:30:53 That's not, that's not me. But I just can't name drop like that. I just don't, I wasn't, that's not the game I come from, Sharp. Yeah, you're not built like that. And I'm not like that. But there's some bitches that is, and they know who they are. I keep my mouth shut. I was taught to keep my mouth shut and not follow the bag.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Because I, we ain't got much time, because I want to dive into this. Okay, go ahead. Like who, so when you, tell me about your only fans and how you would cross over, how you transitioned to be able to fuck with that and take that, you know, digital standpoint of it and, you know, make that, you know, make some revenue too for you as well double-dipping okay well the only fans like I mean it was always like brought up to me a lot from like numerous different people like you know you should start an only fans but I kind of what I like about only fans is to me it's like it's safer I mean obviously you don't have to deal
Starting point is 00:31:49 with like a like you can be on there solo you don't have to do anything with anybody if you don't want to you know it's you're pretty much free to like put whatever you want you know on there and make some money and to me it's like safer rather than you know going you know, having a date or, you know, doing whatever, tricking, whatever. Like, it's just, it's just a safer way of going about doing things. But, you know, I eventually started it. And around probably before, like, COVID really, like, was going down. And I was going at it pretty hard for a little bit there.
Starting point is 00:32:21 But then, like, you know, one of my pages got popped and then. That's what you know you're doing some real work around that motherfucker. Yes. One of my pages, like, some of my social medias was getting popped. And I was like, oh, come on, please, like, don't do this to me. And then, like, I kind of slacked on it a little bit, you know what I mean? Because I wasn't sure, like, how I was going to go about it, you know, and then I wanted to, I wanted to, like, you know, kind of like, see, like, where I wanted to go with that.
Starting point is 00:32:50 But then eventually I picked it back up, so I'm, like, I'm more consistent with it now. And, you know, because I look at it as just, like, a way to kind of, like, make more income so I can invest in real estate. Yeah. Because I feel like, you know, you should always have, like, an end game. to like what you're doing and that was one of the mistakes I always made you know in this game a whole lot of money was coming in sharp and I don't know what the hell happened to a lot of it well you know you got and I'm gonna chime in on this you have to understand something you know people like me and yourself we don't come from money naturally so when you give people
Starting point is 00:33:29 money in the beginning of their times and you start really having something you give people money that we don't know what to do with it so we ain't never had shit before like I've never when I was young I never had shit so when I got something I wanted to spend shit I wanted to have things that I never had you have to go through that I think that's a part of everybody's life right everybody kind of goes through that everybody in this room's I got terrible when I started making some money I got on that God complex sharp oh my god I was terrible I got so terrible I had to some stuff had to happen to bring me back to reality you know what I mean because I was I was starting to become like a little too full of myself up here like it was it was getting because all this money I was just like oh my god the money
Starting point is 00:34:12 the money the money like I was getting caught up in that energy you know what I mean and it was bringing out a monster out of me for real it it happens listen it happens to the best of us there is nobody. I'm talking about, man, people that didn't came. I ain't talking about people that already came for money. You grew up with money. Okay, cool. And I'm not knocking those people that you were fortunate.
Starting point is 00:34:35 You were fortunate enough to where, and you know, what I like about those people are they just want more love than money. The people that grew up with money, they're just like, man, just love me. I'll be your best friend. I don't care about this money. This shit's, it's trinkets to them. They just want a genuine relationship, but we just want everybody to have a good time. You ever met somebody like that?
Starting point is 00:34:54 Like they grew up already with money, having money. They just wanted to have a good time. They'll make sure all the homies have a good time. It's cool. This is nothing. Let's just, you know, stamp the memories. But there's people like me and you that have came up to where we had, we never had shit. So once we start having it, just even a little bit of it, we're ready to, you know, step up with the Joneses.
Starting point is 00:35:16 You know, we want to be able to show it and flaunt it. We want everybody to know that we have it because we've never. ever had it before. You don't know what people treat you like not having it versus having it. So you run to that feeling. Like, let me see how people treat me when I do have it. Yeah. That's why motherfuckers always say, yeah, y'all motherfuckers don't like me now, but wait till I'm up.
Starting point is 00:35:38 But a lot of girls, like, we screw up because like that money starts coming in. We start doing all kinds of stupid shit with it blowing it instead of saving it. And that's why, like, you know, after a while, I had to really do my due diligence on stuff because I was like, you know, if I want to have like an end game on this, if I want to have like an end goal, because you can't do this forever, obviously. You know what I mean? I do pretty good keeping myself on point and looking good, but you can't like do this forever. Like you have to have some sort of game plan. So that's like why I decided to like get back on point with my only fans.
Starting point is 00:36:10 I'm going to save money from that and then invest in the real estate. And I want to like do other things, maybe like stocks and, you know. Well, it's legitimate money. It's money that you can immediately take and move. it to where you need to do and you ain't got to worry about nobody coming and looking at you. You ain't got to worry about Uncle Sam trying to come get in your business. I do understand that. You still take care of your other endeavors on your back end and you do what you need to do.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Absolutely. I do respect that. You smoke? You want to smoke some of the sushi right here? There's some of that sushi donut right here, man. You're trying to get me blazed up in here. They're the truth, man. Hey, they're the truth right there.
Starting point is 00:36:44 I'm only going to listen to me. Just like in our conversation, us talking the truth, we're going to smoke the truth. Oh my God. You know? You know, I haven't smoked in such a long-ass time. You want to take a hit or something? I'm good for it now. Usually.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Yeah. Maybe after we get done, we'll go smoke one and we'll do what we do. But, you know, I got a question for you. I got to really, do you think that every chick that, because I see that there's a lot of chicks and I got to ask you, because you're a chick that transitioned, okay? You're a chick that came from some hoeing. You know, you didn't pay somebody. You didn't do whatever you didn't did, you know, it's nobody's been there. You just, we know you've been there.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Have you, do you think that at all the chicks that are on OnlyFans and doing OnlyFans work, how many of them do you think are actually really getting a bag from it? Like just put a number. You ain't got to just put a number. What do you think from one to fucking a thousand? How many do you think are really like getting the bag, not worrying about it? It comes in every fucking month. I think there's only like a few of them like the big name models ones.
Starting point is 00:37:54 The ones that are probably like the most popular like on IG, those are the ones that are probably like making it the most. The rest of them, they're probably like pulling in like I'm going to say maybe like five to 10 and then maybe 10 to 20 to 15. You know, playing around with those numbers. Like I'm going to keep it between five and 20 grand a month. You know what I mean? So most, I think a lot of girls will probably be within that range right there. And then the real bigger name models, like they're probably like pulling. pulling in probably 50 to 100 or more a month.
Starting point is 00:38:22 So let's let's let's, okay, so let's stop at the 50 to 100 a month. How many of those do you think that there are that are really pulling it in? Because obviously them are the numbers that everybody wants to get to, you know, playing the only fans. Everybody wants to get to, you know, 50 to 100 grand a month, you know, working on and doing only fans. So would, could we say there's only probably like a solid five or a solid six? that are guaranteed.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Man, I only know a few, Sharp. I'm going to be honest. Like, I only know a few that's really getting that kind of money. Yeah. I don't really know a lot. And like I said, these are big, these are girls that are verified on Instagram. They're big name models. And they're the ones that are probably like pulling in that kind of money.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Anybody else? Mm-mm. So you could say for like that game, for that industry. Would we? It's about your popularity. When you, to do it only fans, you would already have to have a following, right? You already have to build a following. Yeah, you need to build.
Starting point is 00:39:25 It's all about marketing and how you're marketing yourself. Like, on all, like, you need to be doing it on multiple different platforms. And then a lot of it also has to do with your content, too, because you can gain a lot of subscribers, but then it's like, it's also about keeping them there. What are you doing to keep them there? And then sometimes it's not enough to just, you know, I don't want to give away what I got on there. You're just going to have to subscribe. But you're just going to have to subscribe. But trust me, like, it gets to a point to where you're going to have to start doing more and more and more and more and more and more.
Starting point is 00:39:59 To keep, like, people, like, always interested. Like, that's that wow factor. Like, oh, what is she going to post next? What is she going to do next? You know what I'm saying? Who's she going to fuck next? Right. You know, I've heard a few men, right?
Starting point is 00:40:13 I've got to talk a little bit of shit. All right, talk some shit. I've heard a few men. Mm-hmm. Say like, you know, I can do only fans by myself. But I said, bro, like, what do you, who you think by? I'm going to ask you this because you do only fans. So can I ask you from male to female?
Starting point is 00:40:34 What preference buys more only fans, man or a woman? The men are purchasing only fans subscriptions way more than the women are. So if these men got on there, right? And they said, hey, you know, I'm going to do only fans. by myself just, you know, doing whatever that they're doing. Could you, these, I don't even want to say it.
Starting point is 00:40:57 I'm going to leave that part of it alone because I don't even want to die. I don't even really want to die. They're definitely, I'll put it to you like that. That's kind of suspect, right? No, no, no, no, this is what's going to happen. If a guy decides to start an only fans, right.
Starting point is 00:41:09 Are you looking to start an only fan shirt? Hell no. But I'm just looking at like a lot of these, because I hear dudes, they're like, yeah, only fans, only fans, only fans. No, bro, you. I don't know That's just not me
Starting point is 00:41:22 That would be interesting You starting an only fan I just could never do it It would be interesting though I could never I just it's not in me I don't know It's just not in my soul
Starting point is 00:41:31 If I felt it I would tell you But I really just don't I don't know I will say you this A lot of men Are gonna definitely subscribe to that If you're a man
Starting point is 00:41:42 On Only fans A lot of men are gonna be Watching your stuff But that's odd to be A man that sells Only fans and it's a whole bunch of men buying your shit. It is what it is. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:41:54 I guess. Like I said, it's about, you have to have, look, to be in this business, period, in the sex game, the sex industry, whatever you want to call it, as a sex worker, period. You need to have, like, a strong mental fortitude to be in this game, for real. I just, look. Men or a woman. I've had a strong motherfucking fortitude for a long motherfucking time. but I just never saw that part of the game like to where the man's, like...
Starting point is 00:42:21 You don't want people to see your peeve? No, but I just, I feel like this, honestly. A real bitch that's been in the game, I don't believe she's going to respect that up out of me, man. She's going to expect me to do what I'm supposed to be doing. That's riding good, smoking good, doing what the fuck I'm supposed to do about our business. That's because you come from the old school, though.
Starting point is 00:42:40 Yeah, I'm not with none of that. Hey, baby, let's hop on there here. Come on. What do you want me to do? Want me to lick on your corn on your little pinky toe? Like, fuck, no. But you have no idea the men that would pay to see you like fucking a bitch and digging it down. That money you'll never be touched.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Guess what? Because I ain't touching it and I don't want to deal with it. You know what I'm saying? Straight up, man. Because, I mean, there's some men out there with some fetishes now, okay? Like, I don't. Tell me one of the craziest fetishes you to cable cross dealing with. I want to hear about it from just somebody that you had to deal with.
Starting point is 00:43:15 even being in the game, just a crazy-ass fetish you didn't heard. I'm gonna talk about, okay, there's guys in there that are into the masochistic shit. So, like, back even when I was dancing, I had men come in to pay me to beat the shit out of them. Yeah. You know what I mean? There's, like, also guys with, like, hardcore foot fetishes.
Starting point is 00:43:33 They want to just sit there, spend a lot of money just to suck on your toes. You know what I mean? And this was back even when I was dancing. So, like, on OnlyFans, like, you got everybody from, like, people who are into foot fetish, people who are in a masochistic shit there's like
Starting point is 00:43:47 there's like all kinds of stuff like there's I've had guys in my DMs talking about I want to buy your worn shoes your worn underwear I've known girls that talked about how there was men that wanted their toenail clippings coming from the game hey oh my God
Starting point is 00:44:02 hey coming from the game so could you say could you ever respect another man that say he come from the same game as you saying that he run around he's sucking on toes when you didn't have men yourself pay you. you for that to suck on your toes. Could you respect him?
Starting point is 00:44:18 And he's like, he a part of the game. No. I just, no. You know what it is? It's because I'm going to look at him like a trick. I'm going to look at him like a trick. How you start is how you finish, huh? Yes.
Starting point is 00:44:34 I'm going to look at him. I can't, yeah. When you get around a real one, she's going to say, she can't even tell it no other way. I'm looking. I'm like, I'm sorry. Like, that whole shit, like, oh, it ain't tricking if you got it. It's like, dude, it's still tricking.
Starting point is 00:44:49 You paid, you did some shit. It's still tricking, period. Whether you had the money to do it or not as irrelevant, it's still tricking. I stand on that. It's still tricky. I stand on that. I can't. Sweetie.
Starting point is 00:45:05 We're about to get ready to get up out of you. Any shout-and-s. I like this, listen, this conversation went dope. I feel like we could definitely do more in the future. because it seemed like you got a lot to say and I like where our conversation goes. You can never learn about a person in one setting and in one sitting, you know, so I believe that, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:25 maybe you come back to the Sharp tank. You want me to come back, Sharp? Come back. Hey, it's always, listen to me. The door is not just open to pretty women or men that act because they got a whole bunch of jewelry on their body. No, the door is open to the real.
Starting point is 00:45:42 This isn't just about you with a pretty face, no, because you would have said some stupid shit or say some crazy shit, I'm going to call you on that shit. I'm not going to play with you. You know what I'm saying? I already don't see what you don't do with somebody's females. I'm not a pussy chaser. You know, I'm not the type of person that sits there, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:00 and let a bitch say some weird shit in hopes, oh, okay, she can say that in hopes to get some pussy afterwards. That ain't my game, baby. That ain't my end game. You know? So if you say some crazy shit, yeah, I'm going to get on your bumper. You know, you've kept it cool. You did say some shit.
Starting point is 00:46:16 You know, I felt like I had to, you know, regulate on. But I feel like we could come back and we could do some more in the future, man. It'll be good, man. I think it'll be healthy for you. I'm down. It'll be healthy for you. Hopefully. I'm down.
Starting point is 00:46:30 You down, baby. I'm down. You ain't down with Ashbrown town now, is you? Oh, my God. I don't know what the fuck that was, but I saw that damn T-shirt. And I ain't want to be down with none of that. I ain't know what that was. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:46:44 I don't know. I don't know what that was either. Hey, man, I appreciate you. Listen to me. Tatiana Vodalia. The only time I've ever said the last name is in regards of an onion. I'll make you cry. You'll make you cry?
Starting point is 00:46:59 You make a motherfucker cry? Never me, baby. I'll make you cry. Never me. I don't cry. I can make you cry. You think so? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:04 Oh, baby, trust me. In the end of it all, you're going to make a face just like that, only with tears. Oh, my God. Hey, man, Tatiana Vidalya, man. Sharp. It's the Sharp tank, no jumper, sharpest, coolest podcasts in the motherfucking world, man. And we out this bitch.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Bye. Cheers.

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