No Jumper - The Skilla Baby Interview: Chain Snatching Incident, Sada Baby vs Adam22, Working with Opps & More

Episode Date: December 19, 2022

Skilla Baby talks to Adam and AD about Sada Baby x Adam beef, jail stories, new label deal, calls out Adam for being messy, and more! ----- 00:00 Intro 0:05 Skilla's thoughts on Sada Baby being offended by something No Jumper posted 7:54 Getting pulled over in Detroit and being recognized 12, telling him to keep making music and stay out of trouble  9:20 Skilla admits he would work with his own opps if it made sense and always putting business first 17:15 Not wanting to be famous, being treated like a zoo animal, and family he barely knows asking for money 18:20 Skilla on being influenced by Sada Baby who gave him a huge co-sign 21:53 Skilla emphasizes that he is on "rapper time" right now  23:13 Skilla talks about getting into it in jail  25:21 Skilla speaks on giving Lando Bando his flowers and Detroit not having too many media outlets at the moment 26:01 Skilla on everyone in Detroit wanting to be a rapper compared to people in LA who will pick up a camera, start a blog, etc. to gain success in the industry 27:26 Skilla talks wanting to be a stadium artist and not liking club walkthroughs 28:39 Having a good head on his shoulders because he was raised right and surrounding himself with people who will push him toward something positive 29:43 First job at a chicken spot, Sada Baby being the person to tell him to quit his job because he saw Skilla's talent and determination 34:40 Skilla talks wanting to be extremely hands on with the business side of his music and vocalizing that to the label 35:50 Skilla on his experience signing to a label, bidding war, and having one of the best lawyers in Detroit 39:20 Skilla speaks on to what extent he actually needs a label, whether or not gatekeepers still exist in the industry 41:02 Skilla says it's pointless for artists to do interviews before building leverage 46:12 His relationship with his father 48:15 Skilla on what ended his hoop dreams, how a sport could start to feel like a job, and rappers wanting to be athletes and athletes wanting to be rappers 51:35 Skilla reacts to Adam doing his thing outside of No Jumper 52:31 Skilla on having his side bandaged up in a music video from getting s__ , Adam suggests he should move out of Detroit 54:54 Skilla on wanting to have a big 2023 and his new project dropping soon 57:10 Skilla calls Adam messy and says something is always going down at No Jumper ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumper, coolest podcast on the world. And today, I'm very, very excited to have one of the top Detroit rappers coming out on the scene. Skill of Baby in the building. What's up? How you feeling, man? Chilling. Excited to have you here. And, of course, we got Big A.D.

Holding it down. Come on, man. How you living, man? You just out here in Cali doing the interview circuit or what you're out here for? I had to shoot a video. Then I did a couple of interviews. I did Bullhead Cab yesterday. Seen that.

Can you pull the mic in just a little bit more? So that's dope, man. Yeah, because I'm going to be honest with you, like a few months ago, six months ago or some shit like that. I remember, like, kind of going down the skill of baby rabbit hole and starting to watch all your shit on YouTube and everything. But at the time, I had a little bit of issue with Sada baby. So I'm kind of feeling like, oh, man, like I probably shouldn't reach out for an interview.

You shouldn't hold him. Well, who's the person that I would hit up to be like, yo, let me get a Skillie Baby interview. I would probably hit up Sada. because that's probably the person that we know the best in between you hit up east side wine man I could hit him up too but I don't know if he liked me at the time either

oh he'll probably put in you y'all grown man though yeah see you try to do with your career I was still in the position I wanted to with him I just felt like is he gonna want to with me because I might have an issue with somebody he's real cool with I mean y'all I don't really

think y'all got an issue to me y'all have words right yeah it's all water under the bridge Now, we still need to have the, like, personal conversation, but there were some tweets back and forth with us. I seen it. I laughed. Yeah?

What were your thoughts on the situation? Because I don't know if you know this, but the situation kind of stemmed from the No Jumper News or the No Jumper account posting something that he had said that was a little controversial. And then he felt like that was like a bad friend move on my part because I should have known that that would have got him in some trouble. I mean, I know, bro, so I know he is going to feel some type of way.

But at the end of the day, Twitter is a public social media platform. So I know what happens. A blog going to be a blog, though. I can't. That's all I can say. Yeah, that's true. Because it's like, you know, realistically, the more and more famous you get, the more and more that you say is just going to become shit that the blogs want to talk about, you know?

And it's like, yeah, that was kind of like my. opinion on it and why I felt like me and him didn't necessarily or it didn't seem likely that we were going to patch it up at the time just because it's like to me this is just what we do we have to talk about this going on in public that's how you get paid yeah and I can't really like you know because I had a lot of friends over the years who like our friendship basically disintegrated because they weren't cool with the fact that we had to go on the show and talk about them or post about Twitter the easiest thing you

could do on Twitter say man I was hacked anybody see you say to anyway yeah but If you follow Sada Baby for a while, though you probably knew that wasn't that. Like, that sounds exactly like him. At the end of the day, bro like that, though. Like, he, like, what he feel, he's going to say it. So, you know, a lot of stuff, he just said, that's how he feel. Like, you can't, I can't really be like, you know, a lot of stuff I wouldn't even speak on because that's bro. But do you, you seem a little bit more reserved.

Do you have a lot of, like, controversial opinions? And then sometimes you just, like, you almost. say it on social media and then you're like no i don't feel like igniting it right now i think we all have controversial thoughts in our head but i'm really more like you said on the reserve side so i'd rather just not let people know what i'm thinking anyway right for real yeah because i mean you could always there's always that option of just saying the craziest that you could think of i'm hacked and knowing that social media will just explode off of what you say but like the thing is is that If Skillababy does that like five times,

then all of a sudden people are going to be talking about you. Like, yeah, Skillababy's that fool who'll be wowing the fuck out on Twitter and saying all the crazy shit. Like you can get like a reputation for that, which is kind of, it could be good or bad, but a lot of people would probably rather avoid it. I'd be, I'd been around a few celebrities and stuff.

So I'd be like, the social media thing, I don't really judge people off social media because nine times out of 10 an image that I got in my head of a lot of people, it don't be the same. at all. Interesting. Yeah, because you seem like somebody where I've heard you said, a bunch of stuff that you seem pretty committed to remaining like a normal person

and you want to stay in Detroit, you don't necessarily like being on like some Hollywood asses. Is that accurate? He lying. He just told me right now. He gets invited to them Hollywood parties now. Skill of babies going up. Like I like L.A.

I wouldn't move to L.A. But I come do like a weekend in L.A. or something. But, like, yeah, I don't really. really want to be too extra like wow what do you think the LA would change about you I don't think it wouldn't change nothing about me I just you know how like you'd be familiar or something yeah I know what's going on at home you don't want to be out of bounds yeah like but in a way though does that feel like it would be like challenging yourself because I when I think about like when I first moved to Long Beach like 12 years ago it was very like it kind of sucked you know it's

like it was weird just not having my normal friend group around my normal food spots all the so I knew I kind of had to start from scratch, but then at the same time, I did feel like it was like an important challenge for me. Like it challenged me to sort of open up my personality in a way. For sure. I feel like it would be a challenge. Like, everybody challenging me to do it.

Like, but it just be like, I'd have met some weird people. I ain't going to. Even in this office, yeah. I didn't met some weird people to where it would be like, I'm familiar at home. Like, because when I, like, when I, somebody do something weird to me or something like I handle it a different way.

Like, I don't be wanting to be messy and stuff like that. I'm like the type of person. Like, if we had a problem, Adam, I'd, like, actually come talk about it in the hallway. And, like, whatever goes down, that just stay between us, you know? Right, I respect that, yeah. So, like, a lot of people don't handle stuff like that way

or, like, it'd just be a lot of weird stuff going on. Like, when you go other places, it's more about, like, clout and stuff like that. And see, the thing is out here is, like, it's one thing, like, you can hang with niggas from here. Then you go to them hollas. Hollywood parties, that shit weird as fuck. You got to deal with the politics over there, too.

You know what I mean? You may say something being a real nigga, and then they take it and, you know what I'm saying, try to fuck your career up on top of that shit, too, is messed up. And when you're in that environment of, like, Hollywood parties and stuff, you just kind of have to know that, like, literally anybody who's going to show any kind of interest in me as a human being is only after the fact that I could benefit them in some way. Like, if somebody wants to be your friend, the truth is that they want to be friends with the up-and-coming cool-ass rapper that's going to maybe make them have a popping celebrity friend

that they could post a picture with or whatever. That's like 99% of it because nonstop, this is the thing that you hear as a person who's not from L.A. I mean, I've been here for 12 years. I feel like I have a decent vantage point, but you hear everybody in L.A. is fake. Everybody's fake. And it's like, yeah, kind of. Like there is an element of that.

But, like, also some of the realest people you will ever meet in L.A. live here. But then all the fake people come here to be fake and to feed all. off each other. This is the problem. People move from out of town, live in L.A., and they populate the scene, and then people come out of here and be like, L.A. people are fake. No, nigger, go south of the 110, meet the real motherfuckers. That's the real L.A. Not this Hollywood bullshit. It'd be somebody from your own city that. You're like, man,

he's from L.A. Like, no, nitty. He ain't from L.A. Nicar. It's a big transplant of everybody. It's a mix-a-bought-bought-bought-old. That shit weird, not the real L. L. Whereas nobody moves to Detroit, to like suck up clout right for the most part that wouldn't really work no i don't think nobody a lot of people scared of me could move to detroit but i feel like detroit actually is so lit that that maybe could be a thing now no it's cool as hell like it's been cool as hell people just never like the image that we got people just think like it's super violent but everywhere else super violent too so it's like it ain't nothing no different yeah they told me that in in detroit if you get pulled over by the cops

Unless you got like a gun or a pound of Coke that you're pretty much going to get left alone, that they pretty much are like ignoring everything because they got so much serious shit going on. It ain't even that. They just in Detroit, when you go to the outskirts of Detroit, like the suburbs, they take your ass jail. Okay. In Detroit, it's like they just leave you alone. Like, they have pulled up playing my music. Like, I didn't got pulled over.

No license. I'm driving 120. and they didn't pull me over like, oh, you're skilly baby, man, keep doing music, stay out of trouble. Really? Yeah, I didn't have bullshit and occur and they'd still let me go.

For real. What's bullshit? Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Now when I'm in here. Okay, but here's a question going back to the loyalty question or whatever. So, like, Sada was talking about this on Twitter the other day is that I guess a lot of fans

felt like it was a little mixy that you were working with T. Grizzly because T. Grizzly and Sada have their history together and everything. Is that something that you even mentioned to Sada? Or is that just kind of your understanding that he doesn't want you to shy away from working with somebody just because he might have had an issue? I haven't talked to Sada about that. I don't think we're going to talk about it.

He knows I don't mix my business with personal stuff. Unless somebody died or got beat up or shot, I don't mix my business with personal. Right. I ain't going to do it. That's what I was thinking because I'm like, that shit ultimately was just like an artist signing. that didn't really work out. It's not like some life or debt shit, right? Yeah.

I don't get into people business with their, what go on with their money and stuff like that, because, like, at the end of the day, side of my brother, like I said, I'm standing the right with them, but I also got a career, you feel, me? So me and T, not the best of friends, but we can work.

Like I said, I work with my own ops, if it makes sense. I still try to smoke their ass right out. How would it make sense, though? How would it make sense to work? Because the only way it would make sense is if they were so popular that you would have to be insane not to do a song with them. But then also, why would they want to work with you if they were so popular? Like, you couldn't resist the...

You know, I don't see it happening. I'm not a person that are walking in this room. Say I had a problem with AD. I ain't going to tell you like, yeah, I got a problem with him. I'm going to sit right next to him. And we can handle our problem after. we get off camera because if this podcast is going to make me money or further my career and I got to sit next to AD, I'm going to do it. You're a smart man.

I haven't sat next one for a few years, holding back feeling soft. Oh, man. Damn. Okay. I like him, man. He's good. No, yeah, definitely. I like that idea, though, that you can just sit here.

But that is the question is, though. Do you talk to him in the hallway beforehand or you talk to him afterwards? No, get the business done first. Does it depend on how intense the conversation was going to be? You got to get the business done. See? You always talk about that tea and saw this stuff. Like, I don't, a lot of stuff, people's problems,

I don't even be understanding where they stem from, you feel me? So, like, I don't get into people business. Like I said, like, somebody died or got shot or something. I don't really be into it because, like, I don't even get into my females and my family business. Like, if they into it, they know they can't even talk to me about that shit. Like, my mom would tell you, she would try to talk about my auntie or something. And I don't got nothing to do with it

because at the end of day, what if 10 years from down the line, y'all get back cool. You feel me? Right. And I'm just not into it with somebody because somebody else into it. I didn't see in a couple of people

that I know get into it with people, then they'd be back cool with them. And I don't like that person. Right. And I just, because I'm not getting back cool with somebody. I don't do that. Then they look at you funny too.

They're looking at you funny, you know? Especially if like, say y'all, I'm cool with y'all, and y'all knew each other before me. You feel me? So if y'all get into it, that don't got nothing to do with me. Y'all knew each other before I knew you. But isn't there a part of you that wants to just, like, be the judge and, like, really hear both sides of it and be like, you know what?

I think AD's in the right. I'm riding with AD on this particular situation. Like, you would just prefer to stay completely neutral? For sure, because y'all are not kids. He got a real smart way of thinking. More people need to think like that. You get further in life by mind your business. But as a rapper, people don't want you to mind your business.

But as a rapper, I want to mind my business even more. Yeah, I can see it. But then at the same time, don't you feel like as a rapper that you're just expected to, like, you can't really ignore smoke? Like, if there's issues going on, you just got to. Yes, you can. You can? Because people are talking.

and say it's smoke, and then they walk in the room and y'all walk right past each other. And that ain't smoke. Yeah. The rapper's smoke be like the weakest smoke ever. It's the weakest smoke ever. It's the weakest smoke ever. If it's real, we can't sit in the room together.

No. But so you've had that situation where there's been people you had interactions with that were negative online and then you see them in real life and don't do anything? For sure. But I'm not really negative online. Like, if I get out of character online, then I'm really at that point. So it just be like I didn't have people like a lot of people you know once you get like a certain amount of followers

People think like when they DM you or something you don't see it Right But the whole time I'd be still looking through my DMs I see somebody talking crazy to me or something from the city or something Or something like that and when I see them up they put a scheme ass up and try to walk past me or something You know I But you're just ignoring them you're not responding to somebody who ain't on your level on Instagram or none Why would I? Right

Why would I be mad at somebody that got less than me? Like, that's the definition of crash, you know. Because somebody would tell you like, somebody disrespected you, Adam, go do something, right? They don't want you to go do something. They go tell you dumb for going to jail. Every time. Well, nobody's saying that you got to go shoot them. But, you know, they want to see you react, I guess.

These fans are realistic, though. What's the react, though? What's reaction? Go on your story and say, you a punk-ass bitch. Bitch-ass-niggin'-h-fuck-y-cus. He just looks at me like, no. These fans are not realistic. They'll sit there and be like,

he said this. They want y'all to literally drive, kill each other and then rap about it and tell them like, nigger. Friends, family, everybody be egging and stuff on that they ain't posed to. Sometimes I get mad at like some of the homeboys if they like say they know how sad it is, right?

Boom. They'll see some message you can go tell him. No one you're going to go react. You feel? me, that's not a good, that's not being a good friend. That's not being a good friend. Knowing that going to crucify them on Twitter for seeing something or Instagram, you know. Sounds like me.

No, but I was thinking about that the other day because I had somebody who was in my family sent a screenshot of somebody talking shit about me. And I was just like, yeah, I'm like, you know, you don't have to do that. Like, you can just not send that to me. Like, because it doesn't bother me because realistically I was going to see that either. way, but you might not realize that I got a thousand of those that I could look at every day. And when I'm just talking to my family, I don't really want to be talking about me as a famous person or me as a person who's getting criticized publicly.

I know you're looking at that and you're feeling a certain type of way, but you can just keep it to yourself. I don't want to, when I'm talking to you, I don't want to be reminded of that. And then, too, tell me good morning or something first. Don't send me the bullshit. Like, you don't want to be Adam 22 when you're at home on Christmas. That's why I'm trying to get to tell my family. Like, I don't want to be skilly baby every time you.

I got to talk about music every day. When I go home, I want to be regular me again. Like, I grew up with you all. So why you're so, like, of course you would be excited to see me, but there's no difference with me at 12 years old and me not. I love you the same. Right. I act the same.

Yeah. But that's what you want. Because, all right, I remember somebody telling me one time about this pop star, this fucking, fuck it, it's Post Malone. I heard somebody telling me that Post Malone, even though he's this successful and this famous, and stuff that they hung out with them and that the vibe was just that he was kind of lonely. And I was like, damn, like, why doesn't he just have his boys from back in high school and shit on

the road with him? And they're like, bro, think about it. Like, his boys from high school are probably weird-ass clout chasers just like everybody else. Like, he's so famous that he can't get away from that. And he has to kind of like wonder the motives of like almost everybody he's hanging out with. And in that moment, I just realized that like really being that famous is a fucking prison. facts yeah like I don't like being like the little famous that I am it's just being that famous it's just like like you said like you're just a circus animal or something like every time they like every time somebody want to see me they want to hear me say hi or something like I'm not no lion like I know you feel me they want to poke a lion make it roar like

and then you take on everybody's problems for sure all everybody's problems now become your problems. For sure. You the family member that can save us. You already got that? The cash app requests are already coming in? You want to see my cash? I just wonder. I hear about it from him. They're like, you know, if you got broke-ass people in your family and they find

out you're getting money, it just gets kind of crazy, right? Even if you weren't even that for your family. Like, real shit. Like, I was there for my immediate family, but now they think I'm the family savior, like, for real, but people you ain't even had relationships with. Like,

You ain't never asked me for nothing to how I'm changing. You change. Right. So that's how I just be, though. But I understand that I ask God for this role in life, so I don't complain about it. Right. Because when would you say that you actually became committed to chasing the rapper dream? Probably like last year.

I always wanted to, I always did it. And I was consistent with it. But like last year, I just felt like I could really do something with it. But it thought it was a big motivation for me because, you know, I was with him, like, all the time. So, like, I'm seeing somebody do it and, like, be successful with it. Like, so, bro was a big motivation for that.

For sure. He really pushed you, too. For sure. Like, I feel like, just as much he promoted himself, he promoted you. For sure. Because I always be like, damn, he pushed this nigga hard. Let me listen to his music.

I'm like, all right, the nigga his shit hard. You know what I'm saying? For sure. Because a lot of times you got to see a rapper's name three, four, five times before you're even like, all right, what's he doing? I'm gonna click this. But a lot of people that are coming up,

they're coming up themselves. They don't sit there and be like, let me put the spotlight on my real home boy. You know what I mean? I've seen this, be like, hey, let you do this first. Let me do this first, and then I'm gonna come bring you in.

It's like, nah, we're gonna push this shit together. I think more people need to be like that. For sure. Yeah, you don't see a lot of rappers really, like, co-signed in their artists. To that extent, they'll do, like, one song or something shit or, or, like, put them on their album one time.

But I felt excited was really like, fuck, I'm gonna flood the market with shit with this dude. And even going to the studio with these niggas one day. I'm like, nigger, okay, 20-30 niggas. Everybody freestyling it in the parking lot. They're like, you doing this song, you're doing this song, going this room to this. I'm like, they're doing it the right way.

Right. One thing I saw a writer, like a music reviewer say when I was reading some shit about you is he said that maybe early on that it was hard for you to stand out when you're rapping on songs with Sada because his rap style is so fucking weird and unorthodox and all over the place. He's screaming.

He's muttering. He's like, he's just changing his voice so much throughout verses and stuff. And that is kind of like a big presence to be next to on a track. So how do you approach that? Do you think that you need, does that change how you come to a track when you guys are working again? I really found myself like, like, I got had like a rude awakening one day because like Sada was about trying to do a song with Dollar. That's because, like, he was doing something with Kurtz Dollar. dollar was like, I'm not getting on that. That's not my type of beat.

And I just started thinking about it. Like, I'm doing a lot of stuff that just ain't me. All the up-paced stuff that ain't me, all the weird and orthodox stuff. Like, I could try, but it ain't me. Like, I pick and choose my battles now, like, with the beats and stuff like that. Like, at first, I was just getting on anything, just doing it just because, you know, like, I'm going to just be consistent. But then I'm, like, I'm going to learn myself what I'm good at, what I'm not good at,

what my voice sound, like, you know how you learn as you go, study the music, stuff like that. Yeah, definitely, because I feel like there's a stage in your life as a rapper where you're like, you know, you're prideful. You're like, I want to be able to hop on any beat and do my thing. But I've definitely heard a lot of rappers in the studio where they like make a song and it's just clearly like not the kind of beat they should hop on and they're actually self-aware enough to be like, yeah, all right, I'm not going to put that out. So I think that takes a while as a rapper to learn that. And it takes some confidence for somebody to play you a beat and be like we're going to get on this and you're like nah i'm gonna wait for the next one

yeah so i've been doing that a lot lately like if it ain't me it just ain't me i ain't going to force like and i think that just helped me a lot more right definitely um okay so i want to ask about this too like because you seem like where does your like because i'm trying to look up skill of baby beef i'm trying to figure out who you got issues with couldn't really find anything aside from the one situation that happened at lando's studio and it but it felt like you you refused to even put out any kind of aggression or or negative energy about even some shit like that yeah yeah you just don't do that you leave stuff in you let street shit be street shit I don't I'm on rapper time right now right like and then like you give negative energy to negative stuff you get negative results right so like and then when you just

like when you know certain shit Like, you just let that shit be like, you know, I ain't going to be on TV and cameras and criminate myself and talking about people. I don't even give people negative energy. I love everybody. Right. But so in that situation, the other side or the other people involved, they were talking about it online, though. So does that change how you want to approach it? Because it feels like you're adhering to a certain code, but then the other people there are maybe not concerned with that, right?

I got a lot of homeboys in jail. I know how the police should work I don't even I just like I went to jail one time I'm gonna tell you the story I went to jail one time right and it was this white guy

kept calling me the N-word kept calling me all my name B-words and shit Not me wasn't my name kept calling you all my name I'm letting him do it I'm letting him do it because I'm really

I really get to go home early but I don't know if I do something they can't attack my little extra days back on. So I got to a point to where I just got fed up. But I'm wondering why he keep calling me these N-Words and B-Words, but he just sitting calm like this.

Like he just sitting calm, N-Ware, B-Ware, N-Ware, N-Ware. But the camera, he knows the cameras, it don't got audio. So when I get up and I chase him around the room and I smack the shit out of him, I look like the aggressor. You feel? me so it's not it's it's really like it's like the image are you feel me i don't want to look like the aggressor in situations you got to be smart like i was telling you that story because soon as i he called me all them in words and b words soon as i smacked him he called the ceo on me

and told him man that's crazy too because from his perspective if he just wants to fuck your day up I mean him fighting you is like whatever but him being able to get you in trouble within the jail system that's like he's going to cause you way more grief that way right to see sent me to see max that's like the hole for for the county jail they sent me to max fast as hell i really was a trustee so you feel me fuck my job up boy that's it so i smacked him lost my job couldn't get out early like made my mama and my girl mad like they was sad about it so i'm saying that to say this Like, when you on camera looking like the aggressor, it don't even matter if somebody bothering you.

Right. You're going to be, it's like the second person always get in trouble. Right. You don't be the first person. That's true. So you got to just be smart how you move. I was watching that feeling like, oh, this is how other people feel about no jumper. Because it's like something crazy happened in somebody else's studio,

and I'm looking at the comments, and some people are like, man, Landau tripping, like, Landau shouldn't let this happen, whatever. I'm like... I want people to know, though. Lando had nothing to do with nothing. Let Landau be Lando. We all know how Lando is, bro. Lando ain't no street nigger, bro.

Lando really a good nigga. Everybody got some bad tendencies and stuff, but Lirando a good nigga, he's pushing baby trying. He took baby chine to the next level. There's not a lot of media opportunities in Detroit anyway, so he's opening doors for a lot of people. Let that man be successful.

Like, get Lando, his flowers. He didn't do a lot of stuff for the hip-hop in Detroit. get Lando is flowers. What does Detroit hip-hop need, though? Like, what would be the best things that could happen to the city in terms of, like, the people having more opportunities and stuff? Because the thing about Lando shit is that, if you look at Lando shit, there's, like, 20 things like that.

You know, 20 different places you go do an interview or whatever. So it's kind of like, is that the future of Detroit? Or, I don't know. I think in Detroit, everybody wants to be a rapper. And there's more opportunities if, like, If people are smart, they'll pick up a camera or they'll start a vlog or they do other stuff. They are opening studio. Like, there are my opportunities you can make a lot of money off there.

Everybody want to be rich and famous. So, like, it's kind of hard. Everybody in Detroit want to be a rapper. But you come to Hollywood or L.A. or even Atlanta, you've got 20 cameramen. You got 20 vlogs. You got all that. And you can get rich and famous doing that. You could get rich and famous doing that.

But nobody thinking like that. Everybody wants to, they don't even know how hard it is to be a rapper or then. A lot of times the rapper don't, like, see, my situation different because I, like, studied the business before I just jumped out here. But a lot of times the rapper is not the man with the money. He's not the man with the pool. He's not the man that's calling those shots. So that's why I don't really like too much hang around a lot of rappers because I'd rather

hang with the managers or the man that's behind the rappers. But when you look at your career and what you've accomplished as a musician, though, do you want to be a dope street rapper? Or do you want to, like, make huge hits that are on the fucking radio or everything like that? Because there's a lot of different, like, different levels that you could potentially reach in your career. And I'm wondering, like, which one you're kind of aiming for at this point. I want to be a stadium artist. I went to Kendrick Lamarck concert. Did I see him ride wave?

That shit just seemed so dope. Like, ride wave can just get on the stage and not say nothing. The whole arena just sing word for word. Like, I want to be like that. Like, I want to learn the business and, you know, I want to, like, better myself in this. I don't just want to be a street thing or walking to the clubs all this all day. Like, the money be good, but it'll be like, that should be like day-javeu for real. What, just doing the club walk-through type of shit?

That should be deja vu. People I don't want to see standing next to their whole. whole bunch of people that just staring at me. I don't like that for real. Yeah. I've like never done that, but I could imagine that you would start to feel very objectified. It would just feel so silly to be like out here late at night, all these drunk people around you and you're just kind of walking in. Hey, how you doing? For sure. Every night. Definitely. But okay, what do you credit you having a good head on your

shoulders? Because it seems like you're very like business minded and stuff like, oh, you studied the music business so you didn't want to like it taking advantage of. That's like stuff. that you don't really see a lot of young rappers really concerning themselves with. So what do you credit that? Is your parents or what was it? I was raised right for show. But then I'm around.

I surround myself by good people and people. I don't surround myself like, you don't see me with a bunch of young guys or like people my age. I do got friends that young, wild and reckless, but it's a time and a place for everything. Like,

I just feel like I got to surround myself by people that's going to inspire me to do more. like see it's it's cool to be young and wild but like I really like I've been like since I was young I've been hang around all older people so by me hang around all older people I was around the people trying to get the money and stuff like that I always wanted to get the money like I ain't never mind getting a job like I've been working since I was 14 15 like I always wanted money what was your last job before you went full-time rapping Captain Jay what's that's good It's a chicken spot. Oh, shit. Now I know why he laughed when he said to do. Damn, is it like a dope spot? It's better than pop-ahs or?

No, that shit weak. It's cool. Like, it's cool. But, like, when you work in fast food, like, food spots, you be, like, notice it turned you up from the food because you notice how bad the tendencies are in there, like. You see behind the curtain. Yeah, like, how unsanitary it is and stuff. A lot of things.

Things are like that, though. Once you've seen somebody make a bunch of rap songs in the studio, you start to realize how rap songs are made. And once you see a label push a song, you start to realize like, oh, so this song didn't just become popular. Like, this was a whole thing. That's got to be like watching the fucking dirty-ass friar in back of Pop-Ayes, and you see them not clean it for two weeks.

If that shit is dirtier, the better that shit is. Yeah, you're right. With Popeyes, I'm down. That's a lot of Popeye's for show. I ain't a lot of pop-is of shit. You don't bug with it? I don't know. It's the shit.

Oh, yeah. Okay, okay. I'm glad. I feel like that's one fast food spot that everybody can kind of agree is really good. For sure. That shit, my girl hates this. So fuck her. Really? Yeah, right? She's just like, doesn't think it's... And usually when she says that, though, I'll order it and I'll be eating in front of her and I'll be like, da-ha.

Next time I'll give her a biscuit, dry one. Take care of the job for you. The older I get the more, the biscuits don't really thrill me. With the honey? With the honey on it? Oh, my God. The honey is out of here. No, the butter.

The butter and the honey. Okay, so, oh yeah, you were talking about, or just how you got into having the right mentality in terms of wanting to take your business in the right direction. Oh, wait, no, we were talking about fast food after that. Okay, you were working, doing the fast food stuff. That was the last job. How did you end up quitting? How long ago was that? I really told me quit.

Bro, really told me quit. Like, he told me, like, this was really when he was starting to flourish, floors, too. Like, I'm going to come in there and make you clear. I'm embarrassed you. I'm like, damn, I really got to quit. I'm walking to the studio. Like, I was fucked up, fucked up too. But he's seen, like, my determination.

So he's like, you got to quit. You feel me? I'm walking to the studio. I'm walking home, but I'm not telling him this. Then one day he just found out I was doing that shit. Like, I think I showed up to the club, chicken pot grease and flour on this shit. For real.

Wow, that's crazy, though. He saw you having all this talent, even when you weren't really, like, doing anything? Like, was he believing in you just because of the music? I think he really seen my determination more than anything. And then, like, I grew up with his little brother, and then some more mutual people was telling him I got talent and stuff. So he, like, had me come around.

But I was talking to my mom and, like, I don't really go around people. Like, you feel me? Like, I don't care how famous somebody he is. Like, I got a field dog out. Like, I don't know if he... bullshit-ass-niggin. So I was really reluctant, for real. That's why, like, at first he, like, telling me

quit my job. I'm like, no, I don't really know y'all like that. For sure. Like, I don't really know y'all like that. So then he would just kept telling me, like, and then, like, he just, like, real-naggin' shit. He had me with him all day, every day, like, like, maybe not all day every day,

but all the events and all that shit. Like, we hanging on the block all that shit. Like, so, like, I started fucking with Sotter. Everybody on the east side started fucking with me. I was really from the west side. Everybody started fucking with me on the east side. So it was just like, bro is the blessing. Is that awkward ever?

Because I don't know exactly about the politics in Detroit, but I've seen a few YouTube videos about various sides of town not getting along. I don't get into that. I don't get into that. A lot of that shit would be fake, man. Because if I get into it, I'm here at first. Like, if I crash out about something, I'm going to crash out. So I don't get into a lot of, like, everybody will tell you.

Like, if y'all get into it, bro, if he with me, don't touch him, don't do nothing. So I'm going to crash out about that. And then if I'm with him today and I'm with dog tomorrow and you see him with me, don't, you feel me? Because I'm not in it. I tell somebody real quick, bro. You ain't crashing about what I got going on. I ain't shot nobody, so don't even come at me.

You feel me? I ain't going to disrespect what you got going on, though. Like, I never even speak on the witcher. When you see me with him, don't speak on him. I'm not getting into it. I don't do that. I fuck with everybody, for real, for real. It'd be hard to be like that, but you got to.

Because like I said, you would find yourself in something, and somebody tap out on you. Real shit. But so in terms of you having your mentality, write about music and the business, how much of that comes from Sada, too? Because he's kind of like maybe not been like fully jerked around the way that some artists do, but he's definitely been involved in situations that he ended up

regretting and not being happy with that I'm sure he wished he didn't have to experience firsthand. Like how much of that is he kind of put you on about? I learned, you know, I be learning about being there. Like, Sada might not be hands on with the business. Like, he wanted, you know, like, you got two different type of artist. You got a lot of artists. that focus more on their music than their business,

and they got a team around them that focus on the business. Like, that's how side it is more like that. I'm more, I want to be hands-on. Like, even I just signed out, told my label, like, you only got to shoot everything to them, put me in a group message. I want to know what's going on. Like, I want to check my numbers. Send me my numbers every week, all this.

Like, I got to know. That's just how I was, like, raised, like, every point count. Like, when you're hustling, you really know that. Like, every point count, whatever. It doesn't matter if you're selling weed, selling shoes, every point count, like, every one of them. So I got to know that. So what was the process you signed into the label like? A big-ass being or I ain't never been.

I ain't never been through that, though. Right. So, like, it was kind of overwhelming. I bet. It was overwhelming. Like, I've committed to one label, and then somebody else came with a better offer. Right. Or their counteroffer just had some.

I ain't got to put this in there. they don't get this, I get that, I keep that. So, like, I had, like, it was a long process. And you're meeting with all these labels, and it's like, you know, they're all nice. They all seem like they want the best for you. But, like, what the fuck do you know about which one is the best or which one would be the best long term? You don't know if maybe this one had a completely different staff six months ago or, you know, like that shit was trippy when I was going through that of dealing with labels and shit where it's like, you know, I'm talking to people in the industry. They're like, well, this label is kind of, they don't have.

have anybody popular right now. So they might give you more money because they really need you, whereas, you know, realistically, you might be better off going with somewhere that is, that has a better track record to make it shit hot, you know? You hear it all. This label's this. This label is, this label is this. And that's kind of like why when Blass went to a Red Bull, they're like, why would you go to Red Bull? Like, nigga, they get to put all their resources behind you. But Red Bull must have, do they have like a partnership with a label or or something? Is it all just them?

He's booming just, bro, he's the only artist that I know on their label. But the fact that they can put all their resources towards him, to me, that's a better fit than being on a roster of 50 people and they have to fucking, you know what I'm saying? Give all their resources to everybody and the top

people are like, nah, that's way better. It would be like signing the QC. It's like, yeah, if you are popping, they have more resources than damn there anybody than make you hot, but then at the same time, you're going to be competing against a little baby every single day of your career for resources, right? For sure, but then it's all about how you and your lawyer negotiate things.

Like, that's a big part of it, and I had to learn that. Like, I probably got one of the best contracts in, like, Detroit history, for real, like top two or three for sure. But I got a good lawyer and I got a good team, and then I surrounded myself by people that have been in it for a minute that then fucked up on somebody else's contract and then got better at it, like, you know? So it's really,

you, it's about what you want from it, though. Like, you just said, like, you might want to be a big-ass nightclub rapper or street rapper. It's about if you want to be a stadium artist, whoever there that they push to be a stadium artist. Or it's all that go into, go into play. Like, you got to negotiate. What if they, you might, they might want your merch or your back catalog. You got to know how to negotiate all that, like, because all this should be important. Right.

They might give you more money and take everything from you, you know? Yeah, because there's so many people throughout our life. When you think about back in your early 20s and you heard about somebody getting signed to a record deal, like, you just thought they were instantly successful and they were instantly rich. And now when you look at that, you're like, oh, so that's like a loan. And that is by no means a guarantee that you're going to be successful. It's a nice step in the right direction, but it don't mean that you're a sure thing at all. But even back then, you had real gatekeepers.

And it was like, if you don't sign this, you won't be. be on BET, you won't get on this magazine, you won't get on MTV. So they kind of had no choice. You made yourself hot. For sure. You know, Salas Hell, but obviously it's like for the most part, you made music videos and put them on YouTube and they blew up. So it's like to what extent do you feel like you need the label?

What do you think they're bringing to the table that you really need? Like that, though, like he said, it's still gatekeepers, though. Certain rooms, you can't get in this shit, like a secret society. He wasn't going to give you no interview. That's what I'm trying to tell you. I thought he was not going to want to. do the interview. Like, but it'd be like that.

It might be somebody from the label that called and be like, we need this interview. Like, you know, it's gatekeepers for showing this shit. Like, I just got signed, right? A lot of people from Detroit, even people I've been fucking with my whole life. Like, I knew my whole life. Now they hang with me and stuff like that. Like, and I don't got no hard feelings towards it. It's just this shit is secret society.

I got a sign. Like, I got in a little baby private parties and all. type of shit. Like, you feel me? Like, as before, I was just, like, a normal person. This shit, like, a real secret society. That's why I don't go into this shit. Like, I was telling you with my feelings. I know it's a business.

Like, you feel, me? You gotta, why would I, why would you fuck with me if I can't help you? Like, that don't even make no sense. That's one thing that I've always heard. Use with good intent. Use with good intent. What's that, man? That means like... Use me, but do it for the right reason?

Yeah. No, no, no, not for the right reason. Like he said, he got something to bring to the table. You feel me? Don't be malicious with it. So like, okay, I got something that can help you. You got something that help me. Let's use each other the right way and keep it pushing. Versus let me, you know what I'm saying?

Let me be fake behind your back, do something and try to get up. Like, no, let's use each other to get to that next level. It's like, why would you, before you would you give me an interview on Adam, on no jumper? Like, that don't even make sense. I had an interview before, I was just, you just helping me. Like, you giving me a platform to talk about nothing. Like, I don't have nothing going on. Like, I might have music like, but I got something going on. Like, you see, you got questions. You can ask me. You can ask me about who I'm into it, what's the other got going on, who I signed to. Before, it's just like, we just been talking.

I have an interview coming up in a couple of days, and there's like an older gangster gentleman who was trying to get me to interview him for a while, and I turned it down a while, but now he's signed to a label and is kind of popping, so I'm gonna do the interview, and I'm already picturing this dude hitting me up and being like, I told you six months ago a year. And it's like, yeah, but bro, he's in a different place in his career now.

Like, you know, that's the whole thing is it's like, like, he got some value to bring to the table. Yeah, like, but I respect somebody like him, because a lot of these rappers are like super early in their career, having done shit begging for an interview. I mean, he's like coming out and doing interviews and stuff, and you did a couple interviews before, but like you waited until a time in your career

where you actually have shit to talk about. I think it's a huge mistake for artists to go and do a shitload of interviews like super early on when they don't have shit to talk about. For sure, because ain't nobody going to... See, right now, somebody's going to click on my name and be like, he did an interview with Adam.

You feel, me, I needy? But before it's just like, what do he got to talk about? They want to hear me talk about what I got going on in the streets and shit like that. They're going to click this, and I'm going to be not talking about it. You feel me? And then, too, you'll see an artist, you give me... Hey, like, hey, do this as a,

favor comes out, 8,000 views. Now they clowning you because they're like, your shit not even doing good. You didn't shot yourself in the foot. You should have waited until you developed yourself more. Bam, and your shit just rise the fuck up. If you were my artist, we would be talking about the interview thing. Like, oh, we're going to strategize once you get to this point.

We're going to do this interview. You know, it's like it should be a very deliberate thing. For sure. Like, it's a time and a place. Like, everything is about time. And like, say you do an interview with me. Eight months ago and I ain't had nothing going on then I got something going on not and I got eight thousand views and not you like I don't want to do no interview with you no more

Because why you see what we did the first time? That's just a lot of people just like I remember Mazzo told me this like before I had anything going on Like I could rap and stuff like that I did a feature with my eyes though I'm like I need a manager and like you don't need no manager right now you need a manager when you got stuff to manage. And I ain't take that to heart like, damn, he trying to help me. No, he was right. Like, why would I get somebody 20% of nothing? Now I'm in the hole.

That's real. I like this bar. You said, I want to kill a man every time I'm mad, but then I pray to God and I talk, and you talk to your dad. What was, do you really have that kind of like anger in certain situations? and like what is it that helps calm you down? Of course. Is it?

I'm religious. I ain't religious. I'm like spiritual. So like a lot of times I'm like I wouldn't even respond to like something you say until I think about the right response. So it would be like in situations like that I get mad. But then it'd be like, is this the right thing to do? Like I ain't saying I'm soft or nothing like that.

like by no means but a lot of stuff just act the right thing to do right now you know it's a right time in the place for everything right time but so right after that in that bar though then you say my family always tells me I'm just like my dad where is that come from like what what do you feel like you got from your dad personality was like that right there like think about everything my dad was a real thinker so everything was calculated even where we was going to eat now next week like he already knew. So I think I like in the business mindset like my dad was real like he did taxes and stuff like that. So he's like that's why I'm big on like every point counting all that because I already know how that go. Right. Like I was going back to the family thing like I was telling my family like say everybody think I got all this money right. But who's going to help me pay it back? How could they think that with all this jewelry? But then it'd be like this. who's going to help me pay it back?

Say I get a million dollars. I got to pay my lawyer. I got to pay my team. And then it's on me to pay this label back. But everybody's going to help me spend the money. Everyone is spent, you're going to tell me. I ain't tell you to do that. And you ain't going to help me pay it back.

Right. And they're going to laugh at you. For sure. That's why I tell people, I'm going to get you everything you need. Like, for sure, you need it caught. For everything you want, you're not getting that for me. for sure right so I got that oh Christmas with Skiller what's your relationship with your dad like at this point though how does he feel about what's happening to you my dad passed

when I was like 14 15 oh okay apologies yeah it's cool yeah I'd be laughing at like I'm fucked up in the head like I'd be laughing like talk about my daddy sometimes like really in what way like it doesn't strike you as like a sad memory you feel like you're celebrating laughing like sometimes like damn that mean ass niggie dead his hell like But I don't mean it, like, no, mis-malicious. Like, I just be, like, everybody in my family fucked up in the head like that, except my sister, like, if you talk about my sister, daddy, she's going to fucking run the cry. But, like, I'll just be like, I know how my daddy was.

Like, my daddy told me before he died, like, I ain't going to always be here. Like, he talked to me like that. Like, so it ain't hard for me. Like, if you talk about my daddy, like, you ain't got to say, like, I'm sorry for your loss and all. Like, because I, he already, I accepted. Like he made me accepted before he even... A long time before. You feel me?

Like, so it's hard for, it was easy for me to deal with. But you didn't even have this rapper dream when he was still around, right? No. So how does it feel knowing that you've pretty much already accomplished something that, you know, he probably never could have predicted? I know he's smiling down at me. Like, he wouldn't, my daddy wouldn't want me to try rapper. He was a full of supporter after I would have got, like, doing it good.

But you know, that's natural because, like, my dad, daddy my daddy had me at 52 so like he's born in 46 so you know like they holy shit that just totally changes my perspective on him okay yeah like so he wasn't like a young man when he no his like perspective on this shit was like then go do something that's going to take care of the family like you feel me but like my daddy wanted me go play basketball I was good at it I got all the trophies and stuff so he was like we sometimes we used to catch the bus or walk to practice or games and shit so it's cool I got a lot of determination from him.

Like, keep going, like, that type of stuff. What ended the hoop dreams again? Sure. Life? Like, you know how, like, you do. After you get out of Little League and stuff like that, I was the man in high school on the team and shit like that, but then that shit become a job.

Like, that shit not fun no more. That shit ain't fun. It's fun, but it'd be like it's a job. Like, I don't want to go to the, first. I ain't have to go to the job. in their weight room and do two a days and all that shit. I ain't got to worry about college and shit like that. Yeah, like that is always a weird thing when I'm talking to people on here,

and I realize that they were so passionate about a sport for fucking 10 years from when they're a little kid to like 16. And then all of a sudden, girls, drugs, gangs, money, whatever. Like, all these little things just start poking up. And, like, it kind of makes you understand how determined you have to be to be a professional athlete, you have to be able to take all this shit and just put it aside and just focus on this. For sure, because even

after you make it to the league, like, you still got to live your life how you really don't want to live your life. Then I thought about that. Like, they got all this money right. They can do all this shit, do whatever they want, but they really can't. Like, the NBA really like the feds.

They really know everything you're doing. Why wouldn't they? And then, too, they've hold them to a higher standard. And it's super time consumer. You're a way for So much you miss so much. So if you got kids and shit like that too, but I feel like that's kind of the thing where athletes and rappers where it's like,

damn, you make all this money, but most of the time you're going to miss them important moments, especially if you got kids. You may be out of town somewhere, you got a family member that sick. They may pass away and shit too, but it's that fucking discipline's crazy. Especially for athletes, though.

You got to think they're giving them, man, $100,200 million. You don't think they're going to be on your ass every day. Yeah, and if you get mad at somebody, you can hop on your Instagram story and say, hey, fuck so-and-so. And if you do that as a basketball player, it's like World War III. Especially today now. Yeah.

Crucified. That's why the basketball players want to be like the rappers because they admire the freedom that the rappers have. And then the rappers want to be like the athletes. Because they admire the fame because like basketball is fucking gigantic or football or whatever. But then also. No, their contracts is crazy. Yeah, the money too. Yeah.

And if you're, if you're saying, if you're. somebody who sits in a studio rapping and smoke a weed all day, you're looking at these dudes training and being in an incredible shape, and it is like there's something very, very attractive about that even though I'm sure when you're actually doing the two of days that you're just like, this sucks. But them athletes, though, they bitches be getting fucked. Real shit. Not the rappers?

Ah, not. There's some rappers, bitches getting fucked. Yeah, athletes. They're not, they're not, they cornballs a lot. Not all of them, but there's a big amount of them of corn balls and they're females. You could be a rapper. You could be a cornball and begin $100 million. You're playing basketball or whatever,

but as a rapper, that's tough to pull off. But the bitch ain't going to like. Yeah, she like the lifestyle. Yeah, she liked the lifestyle, but she may really like you. This lifestyle, like, it's okay, the lifestyle for the athletes. The bitch can get whatever she won't. But at the end of the day, a bitch wanted to be in a club with a nigga with all this jury on

and the bitch is looking at her, like, hide you with him. You feel, that's what the bitch really won't. I think about that all the time, that if I was single, all the things that make me successful are also things that would be a big impediment to me like fucking with

a bunch of chicks because they don't want you want to hang out with me I'm in here 10 hours a day like that's not fun to a lot of women well you are a porn store well that's different yeah I didn't want them to know I seen your email though

what email you said own fans at no jumper you see the plug talk shit we didn't send you that way you trying to get this wait wait wait wait does the forming signs when he comes in say that he might be on only fans i sort of god they say only fans at no jumper dot com we might need a different form because they might have gave you the wrong form i put that email down too for the form i clicked that that's a good idea

you're on a mailing list now we should add everybody to the point-top mailing list that's a great idea damn oh lord um all right uh i was watching the uh leaving in the streets video and you had your whole side bandaged up. What was that? I got shot. Yeah, but like that recently? I didn't, have you talked about that in an interview or anything? No, that for real.

What happened? I got a shot. I figured if you got a shot four months I would know about, but what the fuck happened? Like, like that got shot. Right. I feel you. Damn. So maybe you should leave Detroit.

Not for real. No? It was just a one-off. You don't think it's going to happen again or anything? You got a shot. I got a shot. I really I got shot like you feel it ain't really affect me that much it really turned me up if you really think about it in the sense I got shot then my life changed right for real but related to that or just unrelated I got a shot does that worry your team is your team like hey man we want to get you out of these environments no because they know how I am I thrive in that type of shit like I thrive in it like I live the ghetto for real

Everybody know me, know I love that. And that's really my problem. That's really why I don't really want to lead to Detroit. I love that shit. Like, you know how, like, you get in the streets and then it's like a rush to you. Right. For real, for real, like, I don't want, by no means, am I negative for nothing, but I like it. Like, you feel not negativity, but the shit that I like it.

That shit's just polarizing. Yeah. It really is, though. But don't you feel like you've known a million people in your life who at one point in the life, like, I love the hood? I'm never leaving out the hood. And then at some point they get money and they just leave. Nick, I left that over the fucking.

Hey, I ain't living in the hood. Right, okay. I don't live in the hood. I go to the hood. But you're going to see your people. My people still know me. I still pull up. They know it's nothing that they won't do that.

I won't do like, you feel me? They'll do that. I won't, you feel me? I still, you feel me? Right. If it's on the flow, I'm going to get a shoot in a shootout with my homeboys. Like, we go for show. We rocking and rolling together.

It's on the flow. For sure. I forgot. I ain't said that on well. It's on the flow, though. No, that's just how it be, though, with me. I'm always extend my hand back to the hood. I'm always being torn with the streets. Regardless, that's just what I came from.

Right. So, all right, what's the plans in terms of now that you're signing everything? I was listening to Crack Music 2 in the whip on the way here, but what's the next project going to be, and how are you going to take shit to the next level? I got an EP dropping on Friday. It's called We Eat the Most. My label wanted me to drop the EEP, but I'm really, I'm trying to have a big 20-23.

Like you said, I want to be a stadium artist, so I'm going to have a lot of big features and shit like that next year. Need them anthems. For sure, them anthems. Definitely. Yeah, man. I'm glad we were able to get in here and everything. So is anything else that we should know about in terms of stuff you want the fans to keep an eye out for?

I got a project dropped Friday. Right. And he got shot. I got shot too. You got to make that t-shirt. You feel? Sell the shirts? I got shot.

4%. I'm still alive. No, I don't like that song. Because then that's like, you got to accept that you got shot. That song is like teasing. Like that's weird. Yeah, they're going to come back.

Double back on you. Not even that they're going to come back. Like you just poking fun at some shit that you really got shot, you feel? So the kid who made that song got shot and then he just makes that song. And then the other day I seen a video

of another kid who got shot and almost died in the fucking hospital, and he's filming himself with that song playing. I'm like, that was a thing. To keep it real, if you get shot, what you're going to play? What's the first song that's going to come to mind? I'm still alive. Yeah. I'm still alive.

I'm going to play Get It Back in Blood. Damn, so you're going to join the BD, the Push, SDBD Alliance over there in Chicago? You're going to take a trip out there soon? Don't answer that. I don't know what that. Well, okay, when Back in Blood came out, it was kind of like, oh, like, this is like a Marvel movie where all of a sudden, like, Lil Dirk and King Vana joining forces with Poo Shisti to take on. I just thought it was a great song.

Right. And I thought that for a long time before I realized what was going on in the song. And then I was like, this is a great song and it's messy. Them ain't his politics. Yeah, I don't know them politics. Like, for sure, that was exactly. But that's a combining of politics because you got Memphis and Shurray. Chicago coming together.

How do you know? I mean, pay attention. You know. You is a crazy man. I'm in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. I ain't going to walk. Adam. What?

I just want to tell you. I'm too deep. No, you're messy. Yeah. All right, all right. You better stop where you get shot. Nah. I don't think Adam going to get shot.

Didn't y'all have somebody come here with a gun or something? Many times. This is my home blank on the boy. I got a bulletproof vest. Hey, didn't somebody try to get down in here and y'all shot him or something? What happened? I don't know about that. So people got down in here.

Somebody got hit right where you sitting. Y'all always getting somebody hit or something going down in this bit. Messy shit happens time to time. You is a crazy man and I think you like it. Not like that. You sock a nigga, you get a promotion here. Wait, you socked the nigga? Who socked the nigga?

Somebody else did. Who sock the nigga? He's not here right now. Why they soccer He got a promotion after that He called him a bitch For real It would be like

If you and AD started arguing And calling each other bitch Like we can find right now They're gonna be like I'm getting a promotion For sure The views is up For sure

But I went Like you can't disrespect the man like that Yeah I don't care how mad I get at somebody If I call you a bitch And I'm probably ready To hit you in your shit That's overzone

That's why I was kind of hard To be super mad at the host To hit him Because it's like well He disrespected that man He'll call you That man, no bitch. Yeah.

There's only a few words that could really get that reaction. Although, to be fair, suspect, did call him a bitch first. Anthem was paperwork. I'm on tracks, boy. All right. Skiller. Yeah. Appreciate you coming in, man.

Appreciate you all. No doubt. Good thing's coming. Swear to God. Turn my guy up on all streaming services and YouTube and whatnot. Thank you to AD for co-hosting. You a messy man? Community clips.

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