No Jumper - The Sleazy World Go Interview: Sleazy Flow, Scamming, Lil Baby, Offset & More

Episode Date: July 26, 2022

Sleazy is well on his way, so he made sure to stop by No Jumper to chat with Adam about his come-up, what made him rap, working with the biggest in the game, and more! ----- 00:00 Intro 2:04 Ran away back to Grand Rapid for a year at 14 8:22 Sleazy started rappin 2 years ago after a bad break up 9:30 Sleazy got his name after that breakup, he went the "sleazy" route 14:49 Lil Baby, Jack Harlow using his song on Tiktok 16:34 Sleazy created his own sound, his producer makes beats just for him 20:18 Sleazy says he could move out of his city but he also wants to show the kids that you can be successful where he's from 23:43 Sleazy will never entertain something that's not even true 25:00 Being rich is a lot of stress, everybody wants some, tryna set boundaries to say no 27:35 Choosing his label was easy, they were on the same page 29:27 How he got Lil Baby on his song via the label 30:05 Offset reached out to Sleazy via DM 30:41 Being super close with Offset 35:19 S/O Rod Wave 38:35 New project dropping next month ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! nojumper.com SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumper, coolest podcast on the world. You know I brought my boy Flacco with me. Yeah, man. And today we're doing a very anticipated interview with somebody who's been blown up in the streets. Sleazy World Go is in the building. How you doing, man? What's happening?

Yo, he's a new artist, but he pulled up with probably the sighted-ins jewelry I've ever seen. Yeah. I got some more jury on the way, too. I'm gonna fuck with that shit. No cap. For sure.

What's going on out in L.A. right now? What's you doing? Shit, I haven't been done shit. I've been really vile. You know, I'd be on the road a lot, so, like, this was kind of like a break, like, a little vacation. Because, like, the days, I only had, like, an interviewer day, so, like, this probably been, like, my chillest time. Right. So what you've been doing mostly, just touring?

Touring. I've been doing promo runs. Yeah, I've been doing all the type of shit. Definitely. Okay, so where exactly are you coming from? Tell the people. Kansas City, Missouri. Right.

And tell us a little bit about where you grew up and what it was like. I grew up in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Like, I was born. in Grand Rapids, Michigan, but like I was there until like I was 13, you know, so like half Grand Rapids in Michigan, half Kansas City, Missouri. My teens, I was in Kansas City, Missouri, so, you know, yeah. Right. So how would you describe it? Like, what kind of upbringing was it?

Shit in Grand Rapids, it's two different type of cultures. I ain't going to lie. It's different. You know, Grand Rapids, a lot of people, it's like they outside more. It's smaller, so it's like, I don't know. I just remember, like, being on the block, everybody out there. You can just go to the block. You didn't have to be on social media, none of that shit.

You just go to the block and meet, you'll see whoever you wanted to see. Right. You ain't got to call nobody, nothing. For sure. So when you left, though, why did you leave your parents? Yeah, my mama ended up moving. My granny and my auntie ended up moving to Kansas City, like, years before my mama did, and she ended up, like, wanted to take that step to move down there.

Right. You know, I didn't want to move when I was young. I was rebellious as fuck when she moved. Like, I used to run away. Yeah, because you got to be the new kid in school and shit. You got to restart all these friendships and everything. Yeah. My homies is down in Green Ribbson.

Yeah. And so, okay, how did you take it, though, overall? How did you make sense of it? Shit. I had to thug it out, you know? Like I said, I had, I went like, I ran away for like a year. I ran away, went back to Grand Rapids and shit. I ended up getting caught, and then I had to stay down there.

You ran away for a whole year? A year. 14. You don't hear about a lot of kids that age. Yeah. How you survived? Shit. You were street smart even at that age.

Yeah, it was real. You knew how to put some money together. Yeah. But you were still going to school and shit? Nah, I dropped out of school. How'd you get caught? Shit. I forgot how I got caught, but I knew.

Like, she used to come down. Like, she used to try to cast me a lot. Like, she had dropped. Like, she'd come all the way back to Grand Rapids and tried to catch me and shit. Oh, wow. At somebody house. One time she actually caught me and shit.

Body Hunter shit. It wasn't the cops who called you. It was your mom. Yeah. Wow. And so were you getting into? Like, how would you describe your lifestyle while you were on the wrong? Were you getting into trouble and everything, or were you just chilling?

I mean, I was doing bad shit, but I wanted to get caught. Right. Yeah, so I really want to say I was getting into trouble. What do you think it is that made you want to dabble in the dark side? Was it just who you were, or do you think that you had any particular experiences? Yeah, it was probably just who I am. Growing up, I used to, like, fight a lot, you know? I thought that shit was fun, so I used to always fight.

I used to pick fights, you know. I was always, like, aggressive and just always into that type of shit. Right. So once they drag you back home, what's life like? Shit, that shit was boring as fuck. I had to get used to it. I went to school down there for, like, a little bit. Met some motherfuckers, met some homies and shit.

And just adapted, you know, and I start actually liking that shit better than home. Really? Yeah. How are the people different? They dress different. They talk different. They act different. Everything different.

Were you obsessed with rap music this whole time? Nah, I always love music, but I wouldn't obsess with that shit. But I love music. Right. Were you listening to any local music, or was it mostly just bigger artists? When I got down there, I was listening to local music. I started to, like, tap into their music scene and shit. But really bigger artists, yeah.

Right. Who's some famous rappers from Kansas City? Like who was the person that was buzzing when you was out there? They won famous, but they was just local. Yeah. I'm going to say like Delio, two-gun, kiwi, bird, like these, some rappers down in Kansas City, Missouri. Okay. But the famous, like famous rappers out of Tech Nine.

Yeah, Tech Nine, so I was thinking of it just didn't want to get it wrong. Gotcha. Rich the Factor. Yeah, that's really it. man and how was the scam culture in Detroit shit the whole Michigan you really can't just say Detroit yeah like the whole Michigan that's what I feel like that's what I feel like Michigan and Chicago is like

where the scam and shit really came from yeah now like did you ever well were you ever attempted to dabble into the scam culture as you know at like a 14 year old kid hell yeah I was attempted to that but like one thing about scamming Yeah. Motherfuckers ain't gonna tell you how to do it. They want the money to their self. So it's like...

They stick you with it. Your own homies won't even tell you that shit. Right. Because there's only so many... There's only so many people that could be running up in this Louis Vuitton every weekend, right? Listen, they're going to hold out. That's one thing.

That's one thing. That's one thing. You got to be lucky. That's like meeting the plug. Meeting a nigga that will teach you that shit. That's like me and the plug. But they want you to work for them, right? Because that's how I got into scamming when I was a kid is.

I met somebody else who was doing it. And he said, hey, I'm going to put you on this whole thing. I'm going to give you 40%. I'm like, sign me up. Let's go. Yeah, they're going to want you to work for them. They ain't going to tell you the whole sauce. They're going to lead you out.

They're going to leave shit out on purpose. So you won't never know how to fully do that shit on your own. Like, you got to rely on them type of shit. And that's why the dude who got me in this scam and fucked up because I had another homie that I brought around, but he was way smarter than both of us. So he sees the fucking machine that we were using to scan the fucking information onto the cards. He sees everything. And he got like a photographic memory.

So as soon as we got back to the crib, he's like, I already know everything. He's like, I'm going to order it all on Amazon tonight. Like, I'm going to be able to do this. And that's why you don't involve white folks into your business, man. You know, you hear this guy? That's wild. Now, you know, like when does scam rap develop, though, in Michigan? When does scam rap develop in Michigan?

I feel like the first motherfuckers that started rapping about scam was, was band. Wait, yeah, I think it was band game. That's what I was going to say, too. gang was like okay pay will he used to talk that shit they were talking that shit I feel like it got really big when tj 6 came out yeah that's when it got big that's when everybody was like oh this is a wave and he started rapping about scamming but but you might not know that there was a lot of this shit from Atlanta as well because even when I first interviewed yadi I figured out later on that

he had just like he he got fully arrested for doing some scamming shit at a certain point before he got popping and then they tried to bury it because they had all these corporate deals and everything like that. But Yaddy was on that. A lot of these rappers, I'm not going to throw out names out there because it's all like shit I've heard anecdotally but basically like a lot of these rappers from Atlanta were fully living

large off scamming and people were kind of thinking they were lit rappers but they were really just doing all that. Now that's crazy. Now, you know, now when a little T.J. blew up, was L'O.T.J. a proper representation of Michigan? T.J. X.6.

Yeah. Sorry. TJX6. Shit, like what you mean? Here, so, okay, so when he first came out with the scam rap, there were a lot of people saying, yo, he's not really like a scammer, he's on some, like, low-level shit, right? Yeah. Now, being in the city or even being, like, around people from the city,

was TJX6, you know, like, beloved in Michigan? Shit, I don't, I never, I ain't allowed to you. Like, I never, like, followed this career or, like, listen to his shit, so I can't really speak on them. Yeah. Yeah. Not right, but when did you start rapping then? Shit, I started really rapping like two years ago, two and a half years ago.

Wow. Yeah. What happened that motivated you? Uh, a relationship. Really? Who broke your heart? Who broke your heart? Try that big.

Listen, you up now, man. I ain't gonna put a name out there, but shout out to her, though. I'm lit, no. I'm rich, no. So before that, you weren't thinking about music or anything? I was, but I didn't give a fuck about it. She made me care about that shit. She made me want to, like, put passion.

and really, you know what I'm saying, work towards that shit and do something with it for real. Definitely. So how did you even get started? Like, did you know somebody with a studio or you start doing it in the crib? My cousin, baby, daddy,

he knew a nigga with a studio, the nigger that I got introduced him to. Like, I've been working with him since then. Like, I didn't start working with him, but he introduced me to him. He brought me to the studio, my cousin, my cousin, baby daddy, and my other cousin and shit.

You know what I'm saying? He took me to the studio. And since then I just kept recording. Did you always have a similar style to what you've been doing now, or were you rapping totally different in the beginning? I feel like the beginning was kind of like similar to now. I feel like this is just like an upgraded version.

Like, you know, I got used to like being in the studio. I got how to learn shit, learn how to use my voice, learn how to do shit, you know what I'm saying. When did you get the name? Uh, shit, right after that, breakup, yep. Right. So where did it come from? Explain the process of sleazy world go coming together.

That relationship? Like, I got on sleazy shit after that. Ah, got you so. Here, again, don't get... Paint the picture for it. Yeah, right? You don't have to say her name, but did she do you dirty? Like, yo, bro, if you say you got on sleazy demon time, bro, she...

She had to fuck a rapper. She ain't fucking a rapper. Nah. They ain't got rappers out there. She ain't lit like that She ain't fucking a robber But she did some scaly Shit, I feel like it was scandalous, so yeah

See, I was... Forget that what she'd do, man? She fucked the nigga on me Oh, man! See, I was approaching this topic Sensitively because part of me was assuming, you know, they got Jojo World, they got

all these different worlds That's basically your homie dies And I thought there was going to be A sleazy who got killed. Nah, nah, nah, that's me. No, that's sleazy world That's just me. That's my guys.

That's my world. It's like we got our own way about ourselves. Everything we do is different. So you got sleazy with it? Well, you just start putting your dick in all kinds of random pedestrians. No, I didn't start putting my dick in random pedestrians. Pedestrians. I start.

But it's a pedestrian. I started hitting shit where it's like damn. Like, you know, like, for example, say if you fuck your girl, sister or some shit. Like, that's some sleazy shit to do. Like, you don't fuck her? No, I had a girl that I lived with. I dated back in New York. And then we break up.

but she lives kind of down the street and she got a bunch of female roommates. And then at a certain point, after like a couple months, I start somehow just tapping in with all her roommates and I start fucking her roommates behind her back and she has no idea. And I'm feeling good. Like, damn, this bitch don't even know.

She fucked all her home girls. No, no, no. Bagging shit, man. No, no, no, no. Listen. Revenge sex right there, bro. She didn't even know. I was determined to not get caught either.

She never even found out. Well, like, no, see, right? And he turned sleazy after getting his heart broke. You were just grinding me. No, she was a piece of shit. She didn't break my heart, but like, she wasted along my time. I thought she was cool than she was, you know. So I was still like, you know.

Here, so when you started rapping, did you go into it with, yo, like, bro, I'm just going to rap and push it out? Or was it real, like, strategic for you, yo, I'm fin to do this and this and this and this. I just push it out. I ain't never promoted none of my songs like Sleazy Flow. I just put that shit out. I had zero subscribers when I dropped that song. Really?

How long have you been rapping at that point when you made that song? A year? Really? Yep. And did something to stand out to you about that? That the flow just like

stood out that you had done something kind of unique? I was at like a point of my career. Like I was getting all these hundreds of thousands of views but like when I dropped Sleezy Flo, I had like 3,000 followers and shit. Like my followers ain't never match up to my viewers. Like I always did hell of views

on like just audios and shit. And I'm like, damn, I'm trying to get to that next level. I don't, you know what I'm saying? I didn't see 200,000 views. I didn't see 300,000 views. But while, he was up. So I'm like, I'm trying to hit to that next level. It's going to take me to the next level, you know what I'm saying?

So I was at that point in my career. And it's like, shit. I went to the studio one day. Well, before I went to the studio, I had the beat. You know what I found the beat. And I just had the beginning when I was talking on there. Like, everybody put your glocks in and shit. Like, that's all I had.

No, I'm saying. I wrapped that to my nigga Bagdad. I just showed them that part. He's like, and I'm just telling him how I want the video. Like, I already had the video down packed. Wow. Like the video we shot, I already had the whole vision for that whole. So I just explained him the video.

Yeah, that shit going to be hard. When I went to the studio and shit, I put that down. And then I just played that shit back to back. And you knew, yo, this shit's going to go up. Yeah. Like, when I recorded the verse, yeah. Yeah. Now, like, how did it?

Okay, so after you dropped that song, now did you pay somebody to, like, react or, you know, to, like, react or dance to it on, on, like, TikTok? Or how did it TikTok? bus happened. I don't know how T-T-Tac buzz happened. I won't even on TikTok. Like, I just got on TikTok.

Like, I feel like a motherfucker that just fuck with my music, just put me on the... Right. They just did a TikTok rap into the song and that shit just went viral. I don't know how that shit went viral. You don't spend time on TikTok? I do now.

I still don't. And I know that that is making me, like, old in comparison to the people who are younger these days. Like, they are watching a lot more TikTok and a little bit less YouTube. Yeah, YouTube. I ain't a lot.

The fuckers ain't watching YouTube like that. The motherfuckers got Apple, like, the motherfuckers got Apple if they want to listen to music. SoundCloud, shit like that. Of course. YouTube, that's starting to become the last resort. Of course. Now, what did you hear,

yo, this song is bubbling on TikTok? Shit, I was in New York meeting with a label, me with the label I'm signed to right now. They was like sending it to me like two days, two days probably before I met with him and shit the label. And then that third day, my shit went viral on TikTok. Like, it was viral.

Like, famous motherfuckers was doing TikTok food and everything. Who's the most famous people you've seen doing shit to it? Little baby. Jack Harlow. Wow. Yeah, that's like All-Stars. Who else? I don't remember everybody, but there was a lot of them, though.

That's kind of mind-blowing, too. Like, dudes like Jack Harlow that you never even met. And then he's fucking just having a good old time listening or shit. No, fact. Man, it's crazy, man. Now, like, coming from the streets was finally being famous, like, paranoid. You know, because, like, I can't imagine, like, going out now. Everybody knows I'm up.

Now, everybody knows, you know, I got money, half a million dollars and joy. You know, I'm up now. Yeah, it's kind of like, I don't really like, I don't really like all that attention. I ain't going to lie. But I don't really club. I don't party. I don't do none of that shit. So, but the really bad part about it, I can't do normal shit.

Like, I can't just go grocery shopping and not be watched or stare at or try the motherfucker or trying to get videos of you. I can even go through a drive-thru without a motherfucker trying to, hey, can I record a video of you? Like, shit like that. Especially because you. You're from a place where there's not that many famous people, so you really, really stand out. Like, if you get to be a lit rapper from L.A., it's like, well, you're one of many relatively well-known rappers. But, like, out there, it's going to be.

I'm like the only one. It's just you. You're a trophy. No, also, too, is like, now, like, once you got that TikTok hit, right, you already have views with 300,000 views, you know, like, prior. So, like, were you ever, like, damn, you're like, why is everybody saying, yo, this is, like, a one-hit wonder? Like, did you ever feel pressure of, yo, I got to make it? another hit and fast? No, I ain't never feel pressure.

Like, sleazy floor, that shit. That shit good, but that's the best shit. And I know I got more hits. Like, this is what I do. I've been doing this shit, you know? I go in the studio and that's what I do. I make good songs. So like, motherfuckoldk is just gonna say that shit.

They wanna put pressure on you. They want you to feel pressure, but it ain't no pressure. But has that song influenced the stuff that you've done since? Because when I listen to some of your other singles that you put out since then, it feels like you have been kind of like staying in a similar lane

flow-wise or beat-wise at least that's my you got to think about it like when it's when something yours you can do whatever you want with that shit right like so it's like you can't really let the outside noise dictate how you do your shit you know what i'm saying so it's like these is my beats my producer made these beats specifically for me so if i'm going to get on that beat it's going to be another beat and it sound kind of like that one because it's my beat it's my sound of when you create a sound of course it's like yeah because Because when you have a song pop off like that, and we've seen it happen a million times, where somebody comes out with a unique flow, and then give it a couple weeks,

give it a couple months, a big rapper comes out, and they start fucking with that flow, and all of a sudden, like, you become less known for that flow, and they can kind of, like, seize onto that. Like, even the ex-look-at-me-slash- Drake controversy that obviously turned into this whole other thing. But, I mean, that was basically like Drake being a dude who's listening to all these popping underground music, and either intentionally or not intentionally deciding, like, oh, I want to rap like that on this song. And, you know, you've seen it with fucking Black Boy, J.B.,

when he came out, and all of a sudden, you just had a whole bunch of rappers who started kind of pivoted into that pocket. And, like, with you, it's kind of like you want to dominate that flow so you can let people know that that's your stuff. And then the motherfucker can't really do my flow like me. Like, you know what I'm saying? But they tried?

Yeah, a lot of people trying to do the top, like my style beats, like my producer, he'd be telling me, like, a lot of motherfuckers, Like a lot of artists be trying to do these beats. I see a lot of motherfuckers trying to do them type style beats. So it's like... I was thinking about that how like, you know, when Poo Shishi was coming out, there was like Poo Shishi type beats for sure for a minute with that piano and stuff.

And then I'm listening to your shit and there's like a certain commonality in the beats. It's kind of like when you're a lit rapper, it's almost like a category of beat that you end up kind of owning if your style is distinct enough. Yeah, no facts. But motherfuckers don't know about me. Like I got all type of music. Of course. one flow. So I can never be at one hit wonder because I got so much shit.

Yeah. And also too, man. Like, you know, you can tell you're talented, bro, because if you start rapping two years ago and you got that gas, like that fast and blow up that fast but, like, that's not luck, you know, right? Not facts. Now, now since you blew up, has your city

embraced you or all these rappers just fucking hating that shit? I feel like the city embraced me. Yeah. It's some artists that don't like it. You know? Some people feel like they in time. Like some people feel like it should be them. You know what I'm saying? There's always some of that.

No, look, no, because I kind of seen that. Now, I'm not going to say bro name or give him no clout, right? But niggas was saying, you know, oh, man, and he all cab, where he's from, we don't know him. Yeah. It just came off as hating, right? Because if that dude is from your city, clearly you're from Kansas City because you, you know, you got your friends right from Kansas City as well. Yeah. So for them to come out and say, yo, he's not from here.

We don't know him. He's all rap cap. What's your response to that? I don't even, I ain't gonna lie to you. I know the shit you're talking about. That shit won't even directed towards me. That's like a, that's like a YouTube page that just be trying to like, it's just the title.

That wouldn't even talk to be told you. Got you. But, you know, but to shit like that, it's like, shit, I don't really give a fuck. Yeah. I've been in that bits. Mm-hmm. I do what I want to in that bit. So it's like, what?

Of course. Does it feel like something where you kind of want, to change your primary residence? Are you thinking about moving to LA or New York or Atlanta or something like that? I'm thinking about moving to Miami, but I ain't gonna lie, I could have moved, but I don't know. I feel like I want to show like the youthsome, you know, because like me growing up, I ain't never seen no celebrity in the city. I ain't never seen nobody that was like big and rich as hell, just in the city, just coming

through. Like, so I want the motherfuckers under me to be able to see that type of shit. So like I still want my presence in the city, you know what I'm saying? And it's like, I want to show the world the city. It's easy to rep your city if you're from somewhere that's already lit. You know, if you're from Atlanta or Compton or whatever, it's like, of course, the people from there are going to be telling you where they're from because they're from a place that everybody already fucking talks about.

But if you're from somewhere that doesn't necessarily have the craziest reputation, does it feel kind of like there's more pressure on you because you want to really represent where you came from since it hasn't necessarily been represented as much of rap wise? It ain't really no pressure because I know it's lit down the. Like, the world just ain't, like, you know what I'm saying, discover that shit yet. So I feel like I got, like, the advantage because it's like, I'm going to show the world a new city, something different,

a new wave, a new culture, you know? So it's like, motherfucker's tired of seeing the same shit. Because people forget that, like, Chicago was not considered a major hip-hop city before Chief Keefe. Yes, they had Kanye and they had Lupe Fiasco in common, and there were artists, but it wasn't like it is now where every couple months you're hearing about a new big rapper coming out of Chicago and shit.

You know, it's like, it really only takes one or two pop an artist to create a buzz that could kind of like inspire a whole city to keep going up. But it's always going to be a change. Like a change always going to come. Of course, man. Now like when, you know, like when you see rappers like young Dolphin and young greatest, when they die in their hometown, did I ever say, yo, I should probably not be around my hometown as much? Because, you know, let's be real, man, there's a lot of envy when, you know, when, like, you make it, you know? I feel like, Nick, like, it's a lot of envy, but you got to just know how. how to move, you know? Some people start

to feel like they're untouchable. You know what I'm saying? You still got to have that respect. You know what I'm saying? You got to have that respect for other motherfuckers because it's just like it's crazy niggas in your circle. It's crazy niggas and other niggas circle. So it's like, you just got to make sure you moving right, especially when you got the money to move, right? You know what I'm saying?

But it's like, hey, I'm already here. Not the facts, but now speaking of the TikToks and YouTubers, bro, listen, man, I got to ask you this, right? So like, there was a TikTok. I think they like remix, you know, like the Sleazy Flo, right? And they went ahead and put out, like, accusations, like, from like an old case of yours, I think.

Now, I don't even know, like, if it's true or not, but, you know, I just had to ask, man. Clickbait. Gotcha. Gotcha. Gotcha. So y'all, stop hating, man. This man ain't tell. Man, y'all stop putting false accusations.

Today, I guess click bait. Listen, when you're popping, a motherfucker gonna do anything to try to get a viral moment. Yeah. Of course. That's what happened. Any nigga you see blow up, you're going to start trying to, it's going to be some shit. Of course. Coming up, motherfuckers going to try to, I want to, you know what I'm saying, blow up off

of this. If I say this, ooh, who I'm going to blow up. You know what I'm saying? That shit be clickbait. We don't even dress shit like that. Of course, man. Yo, bro, trust me, like, I've seen the same thing with like gorilla, right? Yeah.

Right. She got signed and then immediately like niggas from her hometown and in there was pulling up like old tweets of her support in Dolfman. So I definitely understand that, man. Now, like, how do you like deal with that? Do you just ignore it or like do you ever feel like the need to come online and say, bro, this shit is kept. You all stop playing with my name, man.

I ignore it because it's like, it's going to get that shit notoriety. You feel me? Yeah. But I'm going to entertain some shit that ain't truthful. Of course. Shit don't make sense. It'd be motherfuckers that just in their house on their phones all day. So it's like, it ain't really shit to talk about.

If you respond, it's like you're all of a sudden. You kind of making that shit. Yeah. You're kind of making that shit seem legit. You feel me? Yeah. So it's like, you feel like, okay.

Now, yo, I've seen a recent TikTok recently where it was you, I think it's the dude like who goes around and give up money to like people, right? Now, and you had like 10K and in like your pockets and he asked you for 10K.

Was that skit real or was it like some like, you know, like a skit? No, that skit was real. Oh, really? Yeah. You walk around with 10,000 ones in your pocket? No, it was, it was. It came to be.

He won't once, no, I want ones. That's going to be gigantic. Yeah, but that shit got tense a little bit, though, man. Yeah. It just feels good, having that much money in your pocket? I don't really usually walk around with money. I don't walk around with a lot of money. You're smart, man.

Yeah. I couldn't use my cars at the time, so I had to walk around with money. Of course. Now, what's it like finally being rich, man? Shit. It's a lot of stress. Motherfuckers want money. A worth of family and everything?

You got to think about it, like, you know, Ain't nobody ever been rich in my family or around me, you know? So it's like motherfuckers look at me when it's like when shit going on when it get rough. So it's like, man. How do you set boundaries though? Because you can't just feed everybody. That's what I've been learning to do set boundaries, you know. I feel like once you do something for a motherfucker and they don't like and they don't do what they're supposed to do,

then it's like, I don't really, I don't know what to tell you after that. Of course. It's like you got to make, you feel me? Yeah, because when I hear people say that, I'll be honest to you, the whole time that I've been having money, I really have not had that many people ask me to, like, borrow any significant amount. I've had, like, close friends of mine want to borrow a couple thousand or whatever, like, when they actually really were going through some shit.

But for the most part, I feel like I let people know, like, I'm a dick. Like, I'm not going to be on some super friendly shit. Like, I'm not going to just get you money to take care of your fucking health insurance bill or whatever the fuck it is that you, like, need to pay for or whatever. Like, you got to, like, put the right energy out. there so that people don't think that you're a lick. That's how I said. Of course, yeah.

Yeah, hell yeah. Now, you know, like your homies who, you know, are, were around you before the fame. Now, do they get like monthly stipends or how do you take care of them? Like, what you mean? Like, homies that was around me before the fame, before I blew up. Yeah, yeah, right? Like, anybody that was around me before the fame,

they're still around me. Yeah. Got you. And you kind of just, you know, like, Give them jobs. Like, for example, right, you know, say, yo, listen, like, since you guys are around me now, you all got to do something, right?

Meaning, you know, like, you know, like, you could be like, like, my, like, manager, my, my weed roller, my back carrier. Like, do you give them all jobs? Or, like, how do you, like, make sure the entire squad is taking care of? Yeah, I didn't gave out, I did a TikTok doing that. I didn't gave out a $100K to my people's and shit like that. Wow. I feel like, and my niggas got some that they want to do,

and that shit makes me. sense. I'm investing that shit, you know? Yeah. It's all about building the empire. Of course, but. How many people are on your team day to day, though? You got, like, a manager? I got a couple managers. Really?

A couple? I got three managers. Wait. So, yeah. Yeah, why three? I got two managers. Well, I got two managers that be on the row with me. Then I got a manager that just handled the business behind doors. Gotcha. And so how did you make the decision with the label? Shit, it made sense.

I feel like we was one and the same. They knew what I. They believed in my sound. They believed and I was going to be that new wave, that new sound, you know? A lot of motherfuckers be caught up with what's going on. Or what's the sound that they used to? You know what I'm saying? They don't want to give a new sound a chance.

They was willing to give me that chance. Right. Now, when you hear, though, a lot of these horror stories of, like, a lot of these artists will get in, sign a deal with five years down the line. They're just upset because the deal fucked them over. Now, you know, like, what measures did you take to, like, make sure that everything was on the up and up, you know, and, you know, like, just making sure that you're protected in that record deal. I ain't no dummy.

Mm-hmm. A lot of motherfuckers just don't be knowing. They ain't knowledgeable. Of course. You know? Yeah. That's just that. If you don't know what you're doing, you're going to just go for anything.

Mm-hmm. So it really don't be the labels for a shit. It's whatever you allow to happen. Mm-hmm. Here, so were you ever tempted, though, to stay independent? Yeah, I wanted to stay independent for real. The offer was just too good? Yep.

Yeah, that's how I know that bag. Yo, that's how I know that bag was heavy, man. How much they give you, man? Ten million? I got to ask, man. They gave me them M's, man. I ain't going to say I know, but they gave me that pay. I want to be able to do what I do if they didn't.

So have you spent any large amounts of money, anything you've invested in or anything nice you bought? I probably spent a million dollars so far within three months. On what? Shit, helping my people out, getting my mama cribs, me cribs, cars, a jury, all that. Wow, what was the first car you bought? A track car. Yo, that's kind of sweet.

Yep. How do you go from seeing Little Baby doing a TikTok to your song to actually getting Little Baby on your song? shit it made sense i feel like little baby he fucked that song before he even y'all i even i even hit him up he used to come up to his shows listen to that shit that was like his shit really wow that was his shit so it was like it only made sense you know to get baby on that motherfucker you reached out to him or the label did the label reached out to him right did you actually get to meet up him in the studio or yeah i met up when him at the video shoot right yeah yeah got sure how was that what was he like he cool as hell you're a real nigga yeah yeah

Man, and like how did but the offset link come happen? Offset hit me in my DM and shit. He heard the song, like a snippet of that step one and shit. He like, I want to hop on that motherfucker. And shit, we swapped numbers and really the rest of his history. Yeah, he didn't tell you what's going on with the Migos during all this? Hell no. We try to figure it out.

There's no fucking clues. We can't figure it out, man. No, bro. But like, that's kind of good, though, man, because like when they beef is kind of like, bro, there's no words being said at all, right? Now, which rapper are you the closest to like currently?

Which rapper I'm the closest to currently? Yeah. Probably all set. Yeah. So you guys are staying in touch? Yeah, yeah. Interesting. That's good. Yeah. So the game's all about relationships, you know? Yeah, man. So, like, what's next, man? Like, what do you plan on,

you know, like, where do you see yourself being in, let's say, three years? Three years? Yeah. shit more hits more money for my shows more richer shit like that now like do you think that you have potential like you know so right now there's there's like the forehead of master right is low baby drake kentrick j cole do you feel like like you have potential to at least unseat one of those guys and become one of the right he's going for the mount rushmore you said it one more time yeah right so currently there's like the forehead of monsters the mount

rushmore of current hip-hop right Yeah. There's Baby, Drake, J. Cole, and Kendrick. Do you feel like you got potential to one day unseat one of those guys and become one of the four, you know, top guys in hip-hop? I know I got the potential. How fast do you think that you're going to do it? I can't really say how fast it's going to happen, but I know it's going to happen.

No, fact, man. Yo, I'll hear the buck, man, with, like, a bunch of these, like, RICO cases happening, bro, you would definitely be there fast enough because... A bunch of these guys, bro. Right? Like, come on up. Let's not wish that point. But, okay, when you decided to come out with the video and you had five million guns in the video, was that a conscious decision?

Like, let's make sure we get a lot of guns in this video, or was it more like that was just how everybody was living that day? Yeah, we just ain't give a fuck. That's how everybody came to the video shoot. Right. It was like, yeah. Have you slowed down on putting that in the video at all? Yeah, I kind of slowed down just because it's like, I'm trying to go global. Right.

You know? At a certain point, it could potentially hold you back. Yeah. And it's like, you know what I'm saying? You want to do some global shit. You don't want to do that shit showing hell of guns because globally ain't nobody, everybody ain't fucking with the guns. Of course.

Motherfuckers, like, really look down on guns, you know? People got kids, like got family members that got killed to guns. Right. The motherfuckers got kids that got kept guns in school, so it's like everybody don't love that shit. Definitely. Are you in a relationship? Yeah. Even throughout the whole come up, or is it like a new one?

Throughout the whole come up. Is that a challenge being that you probably have a lot of opportunities knocking at your door these days? No, it ain't no challenge. It ain't no challenge. Easy to keep your head screwed on straight. Black men don't cheat. It's just not a challenge. It's like, you know, I already know how pussy feel.

Yeah. But there's a lot of different kinds. I feel like it's a lot of different kind of head. That's true, too. Pussy, it ain't really too. It ain't like, that shit really don't. Oh, I don't know, man. I don't know.

Because there's all types of different walls. It is. Even if it looks the same, the inside could have a completely different texture. But listen, though. How, like, head, though, that shit, you can find a bitch that's cold, cold with head. Yeah. You don't really know a girl until you.

Yeah. You know? Does head count as cheating? Yeah. It's like a kiss on the cheek. Wait. It's no big deal. Wait, though.

So right now, as a lit rapper, you up, bro. You are sleazy world, bro. I'm a faithful man, bro. Damn. Yo, listen up. God bless. Now, okay, so look, so you are happy, you know, in your relationship. You're thinking about going global.

Do you got that radio record and it's tuck? I got hella records that's took. I got so much shit that's coming up. That's tuck. Do you think you get made? Pop, pop records? I got shit like that's tough. I got a lot of shit took.

Like my next drops, y'all gonna be talking about that shit next. Really? Yeah. What artist do you listen to that we would maybe be a little surprised by? Ride away. I don't know if you'd be a surprise by that, but that's like one of my top rappers.

Wow. He's a lot more melodic than you are currently. Is that something you'd like to dip into? I already got melodic shit. Okay. Yeah. That's hard. Rod Wave.

So, like, well, you know, so, like, you're from, you know, like, Kansas City and, like, Michigan. How did you even discover Rod Wave? Shit. I heard one of his songs from his first project. I think Kevin Gates was on that motherfucker or something. Yes, sir. What's that shit called? I'm not even sure, but it's Cuba Links, I think, right?

Nah, it won Kevin Gates then, but I don't remember. I think it's called Let Me Down. That's the first song I ever heard by him. You would have to go listen to that shit. That's one of his old shits, that put me on them. Rod wave hard, for sure. I wanted to ask this, what's the sleazy world turn up look like? You smoke weed?

You drink? I don't do no drugs. Nothing? No alcohol? Nothing. He's new coffee for that, though, man. Right? Like, he's a cop dude, man.

Yeah. Right? It's like I can't imagine right You know You know like when I hear Like your songs

Right Like you seem just like a calm chill guy I can't imagine man Like the song persona Of like you know Of like spraying the opposite Spitting blocks You just seem like a nice guy man

I ain't gotta like You know A lot of niggas put on the front You know They put on a character I be me Because I know how I can get So it's like

I ain't got to put on no character It's the duality man Like, I ain't got to act like a nigga, like a nigga crazy or a nigga loud, because that's not me. Of course. You know? Right. Yo, who's your biggest inspiration in terms of rapping? I ain't really got no inspiration when it comes to rapping.

My son, my inspiration. Oh, how old is he? One. One. Yeah. Damn. So how does that change your life? Because I got a one and a half year old, so I feel you.

That shit changed my life. That shit made me happy, you know? I remember talking. I just had a. recent interview and they asked me the same question. I'm just like shit, he saved my heart. You know? You felt like you were getting kind of cold before that? Hell yeah.

I feel that. Like, I won't have it before I had my son. Damn. But now you got all the success and it's taking you away from your son. You spend less time with them as a result of all these opportunities. It's kind of a conflict? Yeah, for sure. But it's like, I'm doing that shit for a big person, like a bigger purpose.

Like, I'm big on, you know what I'm saying? doing shit for the bigger purpose, you know? Right. Just like when you go back to say, like, motherfuckers that'll be hate. Like, it's motherfuckers in the city that hate. But even though it's motherfuckers that's in the city hating on me, I still want to make sure the city is winning. Yeah.

Because I know, I want to do this shit for the bigger purpose, you know. And even when you're leaving your kid to go and do media or play a show or go record or whatever, it's like, rewind the clock two, three years. And think about how you would feel about even having that opportunity when you you know that 99% of people who try to make something out of themselves in music don't even get any of the opportunities that you had so far. And then you got to think about it too, right? If I never made it, I still had to spend time away from my son because I had to try to make away, you know? Of course. Now, like, when you say your heart was cold before your son, what do you mean by that?

Like, what made you unhappy? I just didn't have no love in my heart. Like, I ain't had no feeling in my heart. My son brought that life to my shit. I feel it, man. That's kind of deep. That's real shit. For sure. So are you working on a project or what's the next shit that you're going to drop? Yeah, I got a project dropping the next month. It's called Camille. Nice. And who's on it? Of course, love baby. Of course, offset. We got my brother, 81-Hundo. Then we got some old big

features. I want motherfuckers to like. Just wait to the, trackless drop right you need something for motherfuckers to be looking forward to be excited about yeah for sure man uh why do you think though there hasn't been you know like more i guess you know like there's you know like there hasn't been like a like a bigger breakthrough in in uh kansas city like meaning like there hasn't been like bigger artists coming out of kansas city like why do you think that is sound it's all about listen when it comes to like sound some sounds could only go so far You know Every sound ain't going

Listen, it can be some shit Popping in this city You go to another city With that shit They ain't gonna like it So you gotta be at Make some shit You gotta be able to create that sound

That everybody around the world Gonna fuck with And this motherfucker It's even artists It's like They got a sound They shit going crazy And just on the Midwest side

But they go somewhere else It ain't really popping Over the you know A lot of places You just got to create That global sound LA music A lot of people

don't listen to LA music outside of LA. A lot of people, the Bay. The Bay has all kinds of artists that are fucking huge up in Northern California and absolutely nobody throughout the rest of the country listen to them. And you got to look at it like,

look at Detroit artists. You got to see. Like, so many artists there had a big wave, but it didn't go so far. And you just get to wondering why. And it's like the sound, it just don't break through all the way. Of course.

You know? And you feel like people are still in that like Detroit, like, flow? everybody still Detroit flow. Even though they don't want to let a lot of Detroit artists in the dough, everybody steal their flow. Everybody steal something from Detroit Sound. Of course.

And do you feel like they're showing enough homage to Detroit when they do it? No. No. People just don't mention it, right? Hell not. Not. Because, you know, because like the one person who's kind of like popular right now for the Detroit flow is loyalty. And he's not from there.

I mean, you know, so, you know. But he's embraced Detroit in a way. that made it so that nobody in Detroit could be like, oh, he's just taking the center. He didn't did songs. He shows love. And he didn't just show love to like, oh, this is my favorite rapper,

so I'm gonna give him one verse. No, he did a whole tape with all these Detroit artists. He put all these other guys like Pizzi and Rio and everybody that might, it might have took a little longer for them to get their shit going. He helped all of them advance their career. No, thanks. Yeah, but isn't that kind of odd to you, right?

Like, where is somebody is not even from here, but somehow they just start rapping like us. Yeah. You know? I mean, it's like, like you said, when you just asked me, what it's inspire you? Yeah. A lot of motherfuckers look up to other artists, you know?

Yeah. Muffer's don't want to create their own lane. They rather follow another motherfucker lane. They don't want to create their own path. They don't think they got it in them. And a lot of motherfuckers be scared to even take that chance. No, definitely, man. That's real.

Okay, anybody you want to shout out, anything that you should want to tell people to look out for? Shit, shout out my whole gang. Sleazy World Bagdad. Sleazy World two eyes. Sleazy World No Face. Six.

Shout out my brother, Eddie Onehondo. He up next, man. Make sure y'all tune in to that shit. Can we be Sleazy World Adam and Sleazy World Flocko? Yes, sir. Free my nigga, right money. I've been looking for an identity. I think I might have just found it.

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