No Jumper - The Slick Woods Interview: Modeling, Her Mom Getting out of Prison & More

Episode Date: June 8, 2021

Slick Woods talk about growing up in Venice, doing her own thing at a young age, her mom doing time, recently got out, loving style over fashion, signing new talent and more! https://www.instagram.com/slickwoods/ ----- CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5tesvmDS8h50LkjnSAWMOs?si=j6sJD6DkR4mk5NZZWnlK7g FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/nojumper iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/no-jumper/id1001659715?mt=2 Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFICIAL http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world. And today, this is an interview I've been wanting to do for a long time. Slick Woods is in the building. Yeah, Slick Woods. Man, the girl your parents couldn't warn you about because the imagination that wasn't that far ahead. Wait a minute. The girl your parents couldn't warn you about because,

can we just get a clarification on that? Because the imagination that wasn't that far out. Oh, okay. That's how you view yourself and sort of like this tempterist that's just ruining people's families? Whoa. No, more like an alien that just landed on a spaceship. Like, whoa, I'm just here.

Like, Paul, I am, well. Wow, I just noticed you have pink eyebrows right now. I just wanted to note that. I don't know if the camera's going to really pick that up. It's actually you see you up in Yink, so that's the thing that I chose. That's the specific kind of dye that you used on it? Hey, I need to know. How are you doing?

I mean, you take one day at a time, right? Right. That usually, when people say that, it usually means things aren't going that great. I mean, everything is always a challenge, you feel what I mean? Like, but that's the greatest part of our life, you know, like, hitting the hurdles. Ain't that the truth? Yeah. You've been running a lot of track?

Yeah, run a shit track style. That's one of the hurdles, right? I mean, I was trying to move that into this framework. Yeah, yeah. I used to be athlete, but I'm over that now. Really? I mean, I'm not much of a team player. What was your athletic pursuit prior to giving up on it?

I mean, lacrosse is pretty much my strongest suit. La Crosse? Yeah, you would imagine that. I would not have guessed that. Never, right. I feel like they played lacrosse where I grew up and I never hear anybody talk about it out here. It's just not really as much of a thing, but maybe it is. Who got you in the lacrosse?

I mean, I wanted to be the first black girl to play lacrosse and say I wanted to go to high school. Like, because we just had made a new team. So I'm going to do that. So I just was like, you know, being, I started getting tired when I was 12. So being the, like, tallest and most scary looking person on the field with, like, Beverly High School players. You're like, yeah, I want to get on there. Like, what's that? Yeah.

you went to you went to Santa Monica and that's where you grew up? No, I grew up in Venice. Okay. Yeah. How was that experience?

I feel like that's kind of like a bougie clientele at a school like that. Mm-hmm. I mean, I would, I mean, Santa Monica was a very

different experience than Venice. Venice is, I mean, you got your gang bangers and you got your skateboarders. So like, we were just combined

like, you know, homies those homies. Okay. It was around that time where everybody was starting to get along. So I was like, you know, don't let this modeling shit fool you like. It is, you know, yeah. You're a dangerous model.

No, no, no, no. Not, no, I never. Most of these models ain't seen nothing, right? I'm a mom, mom. Okay. At the end of the day, but I'm just saying. But you're a dangerous mom. No, I mean, if you want to play with my kid at the same.

sand like come on bro right like you want to play with him in the sandbox was at it okay until you first little ditty let's rewind you a little bit more even when you were like your your early days like being young and stuff you grew up in venice like since you were very young or when did you end up there um i was born in minneapolis okay and i moved here when i was two and my mom took me down here and then um me and my grandma you know more place to place like motels hotels it was hard right you know it was a lot a lot of years where niggas was just really just going through it you know just like so i like it's you know hard you know hard it's hard it's it's It's a hard, hard situation.

And there's two different LA's, you know, you got the bitch with the, that do facials every day, and I get my nail on them, and take pictures of it and all this shit, like, get brunch, and then you got the big, like, you got the real business, like, hey, I get pressed. And like, oh, you got, all right, all right, respect my nigga, like, you got two different L.A.s. Like, you ever seen your home, you get dragged by the police, and then. They rip off his shirt because he got gang tattoos and drop him off in the wrong hood. So you've seen all that. So you were exposed to just the rough side of L.A. in your younger years? I used to think that L.A., like after L.A.X was like a gray area on the map, and that's like life. Really?

Yeah. You just couldn't see outside of your area. Yeah, like you used to think that this was just that, that's it. So it's just like, you know, yeah. What was your mom and your grandparents going through that kept them from being able to, like, hold down an apartment or a house or whatever? Because you're talking about basically being on the go all the time. What necessitated that? My mom went to prison when I was four.

Oh, okay. And for manslaughter. She stayed down. and she got out on good behavior, you know, she did her time. And she was released in me, and everything is just in solid sense. But she, when she got locked up, you were then in the care of your grandmother? I was awarded the state. I was kind of like in between the cracks type situation.

Really? Yeah, so I had to go. you know, like where I had to, my mom asked for one question, one question only, like, would you take care? Right. So I was just, I was hers. So for the, but, so you weren't actually going between foster homes or anything? You were with your grandma the whole time?

No, no, no, no, never a foster home. Right. Never that, you know, bouncing from, you know, Minneapolis a little bit, like, like, type of shit. Like, I was like, yeah. What was your understanding of why your mom went away at, at, as you were young, did it like slowly start to come into focus what

the situation actually was? Because even explaining prison to a young kid's got to be tough. I mean at that time it was very confusing. That's all I'm going to say like you know. Very confusing. You can't,

you know, you don't know who the bad guy is. Definitely. So what age do your mom get out? She was around 39, 44. But how old? were you? She went in when you were four? She went out when I was four and I'm 24 now.

Oh wow. So she just got out recently? She got out like a year and I forgot or something like that. Okay. And yeah, she's pro to me. It was like, you know, when you know, you tell you home, he's like, hey, I live, my mama live here. They'd be like, you live with your mom? I'm like, no, I don't live with my mom. My mom will with me. Really? Because she probably needed a bunch of help getting back on her feet, right? No, she really didn't. Like she came with bands. Like don't play with mom. Like she she did. She kept her head down. She did when she got to do just what all of us have to do. Like you got to be grown. You got to be about it. You got to just do what you got to do. I'm guessing she's a tough-ass chick. I mean, I wouldn't, I wouldn't mess with her. I saw her. Right.

I don't, like, I don't know how people raise their voice and, like, you know, I cuss out their mom. I'm like, I'd be like super, I'm like, bro, you know how you couldn't, like, if you didn't have a mom, Sarah. Like, like, you'd be on the same type time, like. Right. But, okay. Is there like a sort of like power struggle between your mom because she's your mom, but then at the same time she's coming to live with you, and you're the one who's kind of accomplished a bunch of shit and made money and all this,

this and this, right? I mean, she got her own house now, but like she's getting, she got her whole house. Oh, my God, do you think. I didn't have to, you know, struggle for her or nothing. You know, I got a couple pieces here and there. You know, a little belt, little this, little that. A little belt. I got a little belt.

Not no BB, but I should do. Right. But, no, I was just like, my mom, my mom, she handles her own. And I don't like to step on fingers. Right. And my mom don't like no handouts. What was her energy like when she came out that? Was she, like, just excited as fuck to be free, or was it more like, it's got to be kind of overwhelming and scary, too, right?

Carter watching the Ted Bundy tapes and, like, within the two hours. Within two hours? Stop. Oh my God. That's what I would probably want to do too. I was like, chill. You getting ideas, I think. Right.

She was like, chill. Cheap good. I've been meaning to check this out. Dude, don't underestimate some good Netflix right there. That's fucking crazy. I was like, Ted, but yeah, what's next Maryland, man? I always think about that. Like, if I went in and did a year,

am I going to come out and just immediately go to YouTube and just watch every video from everybody? I'm subscribed to for the past year. No, no. Maybe not immediately, but like within the first week or two, right? No, no, I'm not a big tech nigga, like. Oh, really? You don't sub on YouTube?

Nah, no, really. You gotta hit that subscribe button. That's what's all about. I watched like Hell's Kitchen. Like, chef Gordon Ramsey. Yeah. Like, touch the shit. Hey, come over here.

Touch the shit, you fucking donkey. I never watched that. I was the British baking, where's the British bakeoff? You seen that? I can't bake. I wear hella chains when I sleep. You can't bake because you wear a hell of chains? It gets hot.

Your chain like gold takes like hella. Like you're not willing to take your chains off to make a delicious cake. Nigger. I'm sure there's plenty of girls who got the nails done on that shit. Yeah, yeah. Bro. Yeah. Is that as long as the nails get or do you go like the crazy-ass long?

Actually, these are short for me right now. Right. They get curve a little bit sometimes. You'd be like, okay, now I look like, my precious. Yeah, right. That's what that starts to do after a while. It just gets a little too creepy. You ever see the pictures of like the woman

with like the longest toenails in the world? This shit's like six feet long, some lady in a village in India and shit. This is real. You're sick. I think. It's a tough mental image for you to swallow. And then the girls in New Orleans.

I was like, I'm like, how, okay, now how do you wipe your ass? Exactly. Wipe that ass, wipe that ass. Do you really like it is when you see girls and you realize that they've completely like reinvented typing on the iPhone to not hit their nails. Like they've just figured out this method that is like completely like. You look like Peter. from when he got acrylics.

Did he, I miss that episode. It's Sharonda. Yeah, girl, I can talk. You know who has a hard time wiping their ass that you might not expect is bodybuilders. They get so fucking, their arms get so big and everything that they make their girl wipe their ass for them, I heard. Oh, definitely, yes. They have to turn.

But they walk like this on purpose, so they're totally capping. No, no. No, I mean, they're capping, but on top of that, like, if they really put it down, it still it would be like a little bit like ejected like yeah even if it was yeah but I mean just the fact of like do you imagine how big your muscles

would have to be to not be able to get in there on your own butthole like what the fuck you gotta be fully inflated you know get one of them Japanese toilet toilet's say do you bidet whenever possible how are you trying to tell me you never hit that like

you know you know what I'm out no but you've been overseas and you see and the bidet two different kinds of people are the people who try it out immediately and the people who don't because i i i never really bothered to figure it out um i mean i think that okay i'm one of those people like you got you should wash before you touch your genitals and then after two and i think your genitals should be too wait you wash your hands before you go to the bathroom and then after i didn't even know that was an option although to be honest i guess that is pretty smart, you know?

I mean, especially if you're a man, you're sick. Listen, I will defend to the death that a man does not need to wash his hands after he goes number one. That's especially when you should because you touched it. No way.

You're just saying you were touching with the outside world on it? Listen. And then watch after. I got it down to a science. I've been practicing this my whole life. So you're basically saying your dick is dirtier than the world. I feel like. Wait, so boom, wait, so like... Well, yes.

The world, yeah. I mean, literally its job is to produce urine, I mean. That's not good. I mean, clearly we're not going to agree on this because you're on the other side of the spectrum of watching before and after. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Don't assume my gender.

Okay, my bad. Do you have something you want to tell me about that? I'm androgynous. Are you? I don't know. I want to be respectful. I don't fucking be over. You got your pronouns in your body?

I mean, it's your dad to you. To everyone. My pronouns are dad. Not even a pronoun. Don't care. Okay. Nah. Yeah, I've been thinking about throwing mine.

It's in there. I don't really, like, I don't really care. Honestly, you call me Mr. Woods or Mrs. Wood. I'm glad I'm not in any social circles where I'm being pressured to put my pronouns in my because that's how I imagine it happens, that there's just some person you know who's, like, demanding in your DMs that you put that in there?

Being all over the world, it's honestly, like, it's so different everywhere. Like, in the Philippines, they call you ma'am sir because they don't even want you to, they don't want to, like, they don't want to assume your gender. So they just say, ma'am sir. Really? Wow.

Yeah, and then, like, you know, like when you go to London, people just call you brove no matter what. And then on Delta Airlines, maybe they might call you, Mr. Wood, can you please put your seat up? I'm like, sitting there like, I'm like, what? But if somebody hits you with the mister, do you get offended? Is it a bother you or not?

No, I'm just like, I don't respond on accident. Like, I'm just like, oh, talking about my knocking. Hey, it's me, it's me, Mr. Don Cleons. Right. Because I've seen some clips of Andy Milanakis where people on Twitch would assume that he was a woman. and he got really pissed. I mean, he does look like

Rosie O'Donnell. It's a vibe. But he's like 12, right? No, he's like fucking 40-something. Oh, yeah, he looks 12. Right. I forgot. It's like Benjamin. Okay.

Right. Yeah, Benjamin. But, yeah. I mean, that, I felt like that told me a lot about him when I saw that that pissed him off, though, just because I'm like, oh, well, I've never seen him really get mad about anything, but that pissed him off.

So I guess that's, like, the one thing you got to avoid. Yeah, maybe. that's it like maybe that's the final straw you got something like that something like that's the one thing that somebody could say to you that will really set you off yeah um i don't even want to say this girl yeah because then that's good be every dm right literally that i mean i don't go fuck niggins j j fish oh really i'm like something i got a friend who's been talking to me about him for like the last 10 years like that's like the only thing he cares about in the world I mean, just drop some new heat, bro.

That's all I gotta say. For sure. Okay, let me ask you this. When did somebody, when do you first start to, like, get recognized in any way or start to, like, break out of the, you know, sort of bare bones lifestyle that it seems like you had through high school and stuff? When did somebody, or when do you take that step or when does somebody recognize that you're special? I actually, I got cast a foreign movie first, and then, I mean, they ended up writing a roll for me for what movie no no we never really actually finished it so

i mean and they just like i ended up um going under my managers wing for a minute um i don't know um as stymis just jumped off a fucking roof and literally was like hey no he was like oh he oh boy he i always like you you ever you ever you ever before uh i i'm like hey yeah and then um like um like three months later six months later something like that um i flew out to new york and it was being signed to the lions oh well i guess and i got to put it in chronological order like i did easy season two zine it never even came out and the kany what was talking to me he was like hey like make a um he's like make a instagram and i was like hey what year are we talking i was 19 so five years ago sheesh yeah okay i still had hair oh you did at that time yeah

yeah i had a mohawk like i looked like johnny bravo was sick and a bad bad bad bad time had you ever thought about modeling before that or was it kind of like just out of the blue like the movie idea and all that. Like, had you thought about yourself that way prior? Modeling never occurred to me as, like, an actual,

like, job. Right. Like, I would see models in magazines. Like, in passing, like,

I don't have magazines at home. Like, right. You know, like, I don't have magazines or, I don't even have pictures on the wall, like,

when I was kids. So, I was, so at that time, like, I'm like, modeling, I'm thinking they're,

like, digitized type of situation. Like, it's just, like a fake person on something like printed i'm not thinking like to compare myself to this person i'm just like thinking it doesn't mean nothing to me like i look like my mom my mom was beautiful so i said okay so you were you were putting in chronological order but Kanye offers you this thing or is there something we got a feeling and i'm one of the models that passed out in the

I remember when, like, you know. You passed up? Yeah, definitely did. Just from what? From the show after the season three, I was in season three and season four. Okay. Like the tarp shit and the walking on,

all that hot shit. It was all passing out. Oh, it was just hot as fuck? I mean, I was wearing a wool dress under me. And I had, you try wearing acrylic heels. I don't want to know. Not, girl, go ahead. How was this for you?

Like, it just sounds like it must have been totally overwhelming. You didn't even know what a fucking model was. And then all of a sudden, they got you wearing a wool dress, you're passing out backstage. I mean, I do my job and I do my job fast. So I'm like, on top of that, I don't need a lot of prep time. So, like, I'm showing up, hell. Like, when I was young, I was showing up six hours late for shows. Like, what it does?

I was like, good morning. Ice coffee. Right. Like, did you stop? Yeah. Like, I was taking advantage after a while, but I'm always respectful to, like, the whole crew. You got to do that. And you definitely just got to, like, you remember everybody's names,

birthdays. Like, we, you know, chat it up. Like, make sure that work is fun for everybody because it goes a lot faster that way. Well, it goes a lot faster if you don't show up six hours late, too. Oh, I mean, if you don't have any hair, try to curl this shit. Oh, okay. You ever been that person where there's, like, a video shoot or something, and you show up, like, the time it says to show up on the call sheet, and then you realize that, oh, I could have came seven hours later. Oh, I mean, yeah, and then I went to go get some spaghetti.

Right. So. A lot of models aren't, like, even eating spaghetti, I would think. No, I mean, I need to give my carbs. But you can't gain weight. This is like you, like you've never been scared of gaining weight. I mean, when I was pregnant. That's about it, nah.

Really? You ever been pregnant? My girl has been. I was along for the ride. I mean, yeah, you better take this hand because it's squeezing. Right. No, yeah. She had a C-section, so I didn't actually get to see the pushing.

No, you don't want that. You had the natural birth? straight through the alleyway he took a left well that's good I'll still always wonder what that would have been like since no she just had a little escape pouch boom

no I mean I had to push the eject button which was really you know the epidur you'd be like boo they'd be like don't touch it every fireman you were like boop boo oh you were going crazy with the epidural I was like boonoooooooooooo you know my girl started itching right away so bad

Nah, because, I mean, perks do that to you. And that's what I said. I said that, you know, that's what when you hear rappers saying, like, oh, I'm off the perk, I'm itching, yeah, yeah. She goes, what the fuck are you talking about? I never heard that. I'm like, well, you don't pay some of the words, but okay. Niggas, you know, be like, awesome.

But she was itching so bad that, like, it was not good. Man, now, when the doc gave you that, you be like, okay, I got to put this down. You be like. Right. You feel like, Zan, man. Hmm. Why were you showing up so late? Are you partying your ass off for these modeling shoots that we're talking about?

Sure, so late. Well, you said you showed up like six, seven hours late. I'm just wondering what was going on. I mean. You thought I meant for the baby? No, I'm showing up. I was showing them down late because I'm, why was you showing us so late? Me?

What? I didn't show up late. I've been here for hours. I'm like scolding you for you for. I'm going to play right now. I mean, I tried my best. I got all A's. Like, my mom said I could go outside.

You got all A's in high school? Stop. Okay. I mean, I guess it's possible. I mean, graduate. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I'm like, this story does not sound like someone who got straight A's in high school. Wow.

I mean, it just doesn't really seem like that would be part of all this. Wow. You're going to assume on a nigga. I'm not assuming. It just felt like with all these details that if you were like, killing it in high school that that would have came up sooner. You got one face time and then look what happened. Kids don't do it.

Okay, but that's a good question. Were you interested in fashion before you started modeling? Or was it like you start modeling and then all of a sudden you're like, oh, fashion? I'm still not into fashion. I really don't care for it. I care more for a style. Like how you put it together and how like the intricate details is like thinking about how like when you come up and shit like and you and you, and you use these like little pieces you get every here and there but like how you put it together

because you care more about what you look like than what's going on like just like you know like guns and butter like also you know baby boy shit like okay I just saw guns and butter or I saw a baby boy a couple months ago so I actually know what you're talking about I don't have to just pretend yeah yeah like we used to pretend and now it's not a pretend it's like it's like this is what I do and this is like the nigga like I live breathing do this shit like I can't leave the house without you know wait I don't wait son let me put them pink balancies

on you real quick like I don't even care like we're like you know we're doing that shit for no reason it's like you know you're gonna throw up on them or shit on them or something Is that important to you that you could get some super nice expensive clothing and then you can just destroy it with puke or urine or whatever? No no no it doesn't get me off like

no no I'm more like nah it's just like I just like certain things. Balenciagos are just like, for lack of better words, like, like that, like, I love that story, yeah, but I mean, I'm just like, I like style. Like, I can get him some dickies and be like, oh, like some car heart, be like, ooh, you know what I'm saying?

Like, just, I just like him to look presentable. How much do you think about your outfit before you left the house today? Damn. Jeez. That's a hard. Hard-hitting question? Yeah, it's actually like, damn, all right. Well, it could tell me a lot about what you think of this interview.

Like Peter Griffin when he bangs his knee? That's what I said. Lots of family guy in this episode. Have you ever noticed that the baby is really smart and evil? Nigger, duh. That's the point. And the dog also. Bro.

You ever met a dog that smart? Or even that talks at all? Where's my money? Right. Does your baby beat up your dog? My baby beats up the cat. And the cat gets mad as fuck. The cat scratched her real bad the other day, made her bleed.

Okay, that's dark. Yeah. Well, it wasn't that bad. It was healed up by the next day. Okay, I was like, chill, brother. Well, but you know, the baby, like, doesn't understand how to treat the cat at all. She's just... I'm like, don't make me go pick up that baby right now.

She starts whipping the fucking cat's fur around and shit. But honestly, she does the same thing to my girl's tits, too. She just fucking yanks out of it, pulls out of him like. Which one are you more bad about? I mean, both of them, I understand. You know, it's all good. Yeah, we're sick. Yeah, we're sick.

How was your kid now, then? Two. Two. How's two? I'm only on six months, so I have no idea what you've been through. Okay, just imagine a small drunk adult that's first language is, French. Okay.

Arguing with you at 10 o'clock about juice. French? Who's teaching this baby French? His father. Oh, really? We co-parent. And he speaks French. Wow.

And then you hang out with the baby and you don't speak French. Yeah, no. I'd be like, and the baby's like, we, we, and you're like, what? I'm like, what? He says, translate, motherfucker. I'd be like, I was like, how was your day? He'd be like, we.

I'm like, niggid, what? That doesn't even, you think that was not a yes and no question? Right. He speaks English too, but it's rare only when Jabari jumps that went involved. Right. He wants to get that last book in. But he only got like a couple words at his disposal? Um, nah, he's actually, you just have to actually like, he literally, he knows what he's doing.

When he wants what he wants, and when he wants what he wants. to use his French more because he knows his dad's gonna do it. I'm gonna be like, I'm gonna be like nah, nah. You got different parenting styles? Definitely. Mm. You guys don't? Hers is far more attentive than mine,

but that's because she just knows a lot more and is much, like the baby will shit itself and it'll take me like three hours to realize. She knows in like five minutes. Nah, I'll be like, Saffir has to go to work. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, like, do you wanna, like, bro, he has to, he can't drink juice after 10 bro like no it's not happening mommy said no okay i you're mad

right after 10 what is bedtime my kids asleep by like seven there's he goes like nine oh you got a lit baby you know you on different time zones because he travels and stuff okay like work and just like being with the grandparents and everything right i'm like okay he got to shoot i'm like what Why do you make more than regular male models? The baby? Really? The male models not make as much? That's how it is in porn for sure.

No, it's the only industry in the world that makes more money than males. Hmm. Like, um. Porn too for sure. Yeah, probably. I mean, who wants to see a hairy booty crack that's sick? Oh, the top paid male porn star dudes? they're not like out here with like unmanageable asshole hair and shit they're out here

clean waxed I mean I don't really know like I don't know you know no no no no I'm good off that it is weird though when you meet a dude is like a real gangster but then you also like those porn and like they're kind of managing that wait like nah bro you mean like like like last nigh off moonlight like that's I mean, like, real, like, you know, clearly from the streets, in a gang, et cetera, and then they do porn as well. And they got face tattoos and shit, and you're like, damn, like, that's pretty dope.

Like, I didn't even know that people were doing both. Yeah, like, I mean, because ganges niggas beat it up, and then they say they beat it up. Right. I mean, if you're a talented dick slinger, why keep that to yourself? I mean, what do you want to call it? sex haver if you're a talented sex haveer why keep it to yourself right i mean some of these guys

just really seem like they're born to do it it's just i mean you know you're a sick of um oh no wait okay so it kind of said like were you excited about the modeling thing like when first gone into it, it kind of sounds like it's just something that happened to you and you just didn't give a fuck. But it seems like you've actually gone fairly far in it. So that doesn't seem like it makes so much sense to me. I mean, imagine a football player that's been raised all their life, like, unintentionally to be a football player. And then end up being so good at it, you go league. And they're like, I fucking hate this. You're just like, but I'm good at it.

But in what way were you like being raised to be a model throughout your life? It's just like my whole life where everybody was like, oh, you should be a model. Like you see, hear that little shit, like leaving the lacrosse game, leaving, leaving, like, practice or something shit, like, all these little white parents, like, oh, my God, like, you're so beautiful to be black. Are you mixed? You must be mixed with something. I'm like, yeah.

Right. So those are the annoying things that you are getting, like, you're so exotic. Yeah, that's the word they use for being, like, looking like saying like, you're weird. Your ethnicity is not extremely obvious to me, so therefore you're exotic. I'm like, I'm, why? Because I'm pale as fuck. If you combine, like, any two races, I feel like you start, everybody's going to tell you that you should be a model. Yeah, yeah, that's pretty much every like skin bitch in L.A., right?

we all models in our Instagrams. Oh, yeah, I'm a model. Right. Like, I posed one time. It's, I mean, no offense to anybody. I work for fashion Nova. Kind of weird to compare these two things, but it is kind of like the way that like,

you know, we all know what all the dog breeds are, but then when you have like a crossbred dog that's like different, everyone just freaks out over that and that's like the most fascinating thing in the world, right? Wait, did you just compare me to a dog? Not you. Or like fusion food. When you get like the Korean tacos and you're like,

whoever thought of this? I was like, did this nigga just compare me to a Ford? To a taco. Ford Fusion. Ford Fusion. No, no, no. I said taco.

I said hipster alley, a tote bag. Oh, man. But okay. That's interesting, though, because, all right, modeling, which you don't sound like you were like that. Like, you sound like you were just bored with it, but then at the same time, you're probably getting an amount of money that you hadn't really even thought was possible prior to that, right? It kind of disables you, like, you're like, what do I, like, what do I do with this? And, like, what do I do? How do I adult?

Because at that point, when you get ages, young as hell, you have parents to what your contract names. Mm-hmm. And then, what, or you renewed a contract and then you continuously have. parents to what I'm a hundred and million years old and walking down the wrong way like fucking like I'm like I'm a old model are there old models I feel like they just give you a boot at like 26 right I mean I'm old for a model honestly 24 right so how do you get along with all those girls I don't have to get along with nobody you don't have to talk to anybody I mean but nah like you know I got my home and he's still like you know she's straight from L.A too we both from the same

type of like environment um you know I'm cool with like Kwan she's Chinese I don't know her last name I don't know any of these people but you know like Leon Anderson imon is cool but um like older models are just like to like asking you too many questions or two young models be like asking you way too many questions I mean it must be weird for you to be working alongside somebody where like this has been their dream their entire life and they've been working towards this of just being hot for a living I'm just like they're like oh my god I just got 2,000 more fucking good girl I'm like no it's it's kind of exhausting to be around but you get you got it like help them out like whatever you can do

to you know do the alley up right there like and you know say whatever you can you know you can help more just don't give them false advice just rather give them none than false right that's nice of you so let me ask you this i was as rappers this when you started to tell you know become a model was it hard for you to leave your street life behind or did it get crazier i wouldn't call this street life i don't yeah i can't tell how street it was no no no i was very i was very top-notch kid no But no, it wasn't hard at all. It was like the only option really. Like I got to eat tomorrow, like I had to sleep tomorrow.

It was exactly what you like gotta do. It was just a different time. Have you stayed motivated with it or at some point did you just kind of get over it? I went Hollywood, no. You did, huh? Yes. Absolutely.

Once people said, know who you are, and you can get in all these clubs and all this shit, and, like, you've got enough money that you don't care about getting up the next day to make some more money. Just because I have two doesn't mean I owe you one. Hmm. And I'm a stick by that. If I want to give it to you, I want to give it to you.

And most of the time I do. But if you, are you begging, you're grown, man, you can get it. Like, ask me other questions. Nah, no, no, nigga. At some point, I'm gonna get tired, and you want me to resent you? You had dudes trying to eat off of you? I only really have a male friend.

Mm-hmm. So, I mean, other than the people that work with me, niggas ain't really trying to get that, like, like, niggins ain't trying to get the check. I mean, I'm about to, because I just started a new agency, I'm about to sign this, nigga, um, cut through.

And, um, I'm just like, it's like he's probably the youngest thing i know trying to like actually is bread he's a model no no he's a rapper oh okay yeah he's actually pretty sick it's like some punk rock shit oh really but it's like rap like like sick oh shit like i can't he kind of makes his own genre do you think that's a future of rap i feel like rap like they're trying to figure out like what punk can be in rap there's a lot of rappers like saying they're punk and i don't really buy it day, you know, at the end now niggas are starting to

adopt London, like you adopt a, like a fucking like, a highway. Like, it's like, not even like a child, like it's like, they adopted like, you know, but niggas like, it's the same type vibe as if like I was

downstairs at the ACE, a skeptic function. Uh-huh. Like, it's the same type. Like, these young niggas love that shit. They love the UK drill shit or what? Yeah, they like that shit. They like mosh pits and all they're like carrying a doll to the fucking function. A doll.

I'm like, I'm like, I was all right. I was like, you know what? I'm going to go back inside. I am too old, but that's what sells and that's what's up. And that's like, what's next. Right. Because it's like that, you know. Having like how the bars and on a punk beat.

Like, I'm like, because I love London. I love that style. Like, that's where we got panty packs. That's what we got, like, you know, he's like that Croydon's style because, you know, ashes from Coordian, and you found, that's the thing that found me. So spending every day with him, like, and he like, suck your mom, fine.

Suck your mom. I was like, oh, chill. You know, but when I go to the UK, a star, like kind of saying like they're slang and shit and I always think that I'm gonna keep saying it when I get home and then it never it's gone like the day I get back yeah yeah I mean I'm not I'm not too keen on how but when you like keep going back and forth like I don't know because I'm from I'm from she's just almost at New York I know I was like she's cutting a lot here we go so like um my like living in New York for five years and coming back to LA I thought like you know I'm gonna come back to my roots you know

and you know niggins don't show you as much love out here and because they hate so like I just stayed in the crib and everything like that I'm like oh bro like I'm from New York I'm from New York I'm like you're kicking over Debridan yeah and for How's that going? I don't even remember what niggas was talking about. I just chilling. I remember that's when I got my first silky from Fergie. What's a silky? My doory.

My do rag. Do rag. Oh, you got your first do-rag from Fergie? That's quite the sentence. No, A's that fur. Oh, okay. I just said I got the furgue. Well, that makes a lot more sense.

Yeah. The blue. That would have in no sense. What? Nah, yeah. Forgive me my do du rag. I was like, the way I thought you said that,

so I just repeated it back to you really slow. You got your first du rag with Fergie? Why does Fergie even have a do rag? Never mind enough to give out. She's trying to get her fucking finger waves. I mean, I don't know what Fergie is doing right now, although it's probably very profitable if I had to guess.

Yeah, I know. Probably someone. with Jay Holiday making money. I was watching TV a little bit over the weekend because we're in Airbnb and it's a TV and it's like you start to realize like how much shit is on TV and how many people from the 90s are still doing, like Carmen Electra is just hosting

some show and I'm seeing a commercial for it and I'm like, you know, I haven't thought about what the fuck Carmen Leaker was doing with her life for like the past 10 years and there she is. I'm not going to hold you. I was watching Concrete Cowboys with the nigger from the nigger from Strangelo. things and I was like

Idris? Damn, did you start growing a beard? Do you get, are you talking about Idris or are you talking about somebody else? Oh no,

wait. No, we're not talking about Idris. You fuck with Idris? No, not, no. What?

You don't? No, something I need to know. I'm over here with you. I'm just, I'm just court side for I'm just watching the game.

You know, he like gets voted like best looking man in the world. I don't even. That is a very hint. And then I seen him backstage at Wildest Festival, and I was really, like, looking at him like, okay,

let's see how you look in real life. I'm really, like, really, like, looking at him judging him, like, are you hot? And I was kind of like, are you. Are you hot? Did he just say hot? He bad, he bad. He's a batty.

He's a batty. I can't say that. All I want to say is he would take her. If you've, whoa, okay. take her pack um wait but don't take my back no that's a different thing um

but he he you know if you won awards for being good looking I feel like as men we got to be able to judge your attractiveness right I mean I would normally with your sexuality yeah

clearly I am I just called Idrisa do we know I think we know Yeah, yeah, I heard, yeah, we know. Okay, you'll give it to me? No. Cleared.

Cleared amongst the heterosexual community. Everybody said yes. I think every community said yes. He's good. No, you want to know some fucked up shit I've been watching is a nail bomber documentary about this fucking dude in the, I think, 1999 or so that he was putting off nail bombs.

He was like a white supremacist guy in London and killing mad people. crazy that seen a four-year-old with a nail in his brain crazy shit oh bro come on okay yeah that was a little a little egregious trigger warning I don't think he died though they didn't say it if he did I think I died though from the nail you weren't even there I was saying now currently

you just check it out though it was fucking crazy bro nah like that's that it's a real one huh oh it's real no yeah It's definitely real. How the fuck did you end up on catfish? Nevis my nigga, bro. That nigga is the boldest nigga in the world. I am not knocking on your door.

You got a dog bike of this. This nigga, we don't go to front. Wait, you're talking about, were you only on one scene or one episode? I was on two episodes. Two, okay. Basically, like, how the wardrobe malfunctions. But why were you there? Did they just say, like, hey, we just,

stinky tight so we want you to pull up to this catfishing affair I'm not really sure how that shit works I just be like yeah or no but I was talking to Nevis I don't know he was like basically Max had started doing something no like he's working on something at the time and you know they were just using like I guess people to you know replace him for the time being. Oh, okay. Like, entertaining people

to make it more interesting, I guess. And what, but what about you stood out to them as like, she's the one to host this show?

I think that no one would expect me to be there, but because... I didn't expect it. When I saw it in my YouTube search results, I'm like,

what the fuck is she doing here? And it's just like, well, because I started, I started getting mad. I'm like, I think they knew

because I'm, everybody knows I'm a high. Like, I just like, I was like, like, you fly y' and you know your roommate is your catfish so you didn't know that was going to be the thing no it's all real

wow like we really i really was like nancy drew on this shit wow you ever get catfished um i don't believe i ever like dated someone i met just like clearly offline okay you missed out you're you're a tinder sweeper no i used to be though and i wonder actually because i don't think i deactivated my Tinder profile. I wonder if it ever still shows up. I've been a relationship for over five years, but it's got it's out there. Tender's what? That's your next show. You never had Tender? No, I've never had her dating app before. I've heard about a lot of like cool, successful dudes, though, who have Tinder and just solely will look at it to ascertain Instagram names that they can then hit up. I mean, because you don't want to be famous on Tinder. I don't really want any other. I don't,

other type of, like, social media, I don't know, but they're touching. It's really hard to, like, I'm just like, picture, caption, cool. Like, you want to have to post for bread and shit. I'm like, God, like, another one. Another one. You're so jaded to the money, huh? You're talking about people paying you to post on Instagram, and you sound like so resentful of it.

Like, oh. Because it's like, I'd rather be broke than not be myself. Like, don't give me that. fucking captioned cell. If I'm going to represent myself, like, I'm going to represent myself. You don't want to fuck with me? Like, like, okay, man, it's your team take over my

Instagram and I'll just fucking be here. You let them post for you? Like, if it gets to that point, I'm like, somebody else got to do it because I'm like, bro, I cannot do that shit. Like, I cannot, like, I'll throw up, like, I can't be, like, it's, we rejects.

Or, like, when you're posting it and then, like, you submit, like, the draft of it like oh this is what it's going to be and they're like no it needs to be different and you're like I don't even want to be doing this in the first place I'm like bro all right you already pay me like fuck you it does kind of feel like you're like digging into your soul and taking away something your soul when you're fucking posting something fake on instagram you know like I love this thing yeah I don't think I could have got out of bed today if it wasn't for these Levi's woke up this morning and scrape myself off the

concrete. Thank God I got these Levi's on. Man, I don't even have to pay nobody. I got this new lawnmower. I'm sweating with a duress girl. Right. Jesus Christ.

Okay, I have to. This is very important. Why did you assault rock from the Blueface Girls Club? What the fuck was that? The video makes it seem like you just come out of nowhere. Bow! And then she's saying like, she's famous model.

I gotta know what the fuck happened. I'm not. She's not going to sue. She's... Oh, I don't... She ain't gonna leave her brand deals coming. She's still on the concrete.

Blueface wouldn't let her do that. Maybe tied pods. On the dead looks. What happened? I feel like you and her would be friends. Oh, okay. Maybe I shouldn't have said that. This is the best response to any question I've ever asked.

I've never scoffed so hard. She scoffed. Wow, okay, that was a scoff. I don't know if anyone's ever said scoffed on here. Can we check the records? Scoff is not really a common word on here. Never. Jesus, Lord.

Man, all I've got to say is, If we've become friends, I'm going to apply for a job. You're going to apply for a job. Yeah, apply for it like a job. Where, like jack in the box? Yeah. Like, fuck it. I'm working here.

I'm fucking up orders all 20, 21, 22. Okay, let's pull it back a little bit. How do you know Blueface? Are you guys good friends? I don't know Blueface. Oh, so you just ended up at the house? That's not Blueface's house. It wasn't in that video?

Absolutely not. So she goes other places as well? Yes. I didn't know that. I guess they can walk. Allegedly. They can walk sometimes. But, yeah, there wasn't anything in particular that really set you off there.

It was just sort of spur of the moment, a little grievance. Nah, I don't just be spousin. Like, I'm just a very respectful type of niggas. So, like, if people would disrespect me, I just automatically just jump off. But it wasn't nothing, no, it was no beef. I don't want no beef. like I'm not I'm just not doing that no more I'm older now like okay I don't know that type time I'm just I don't know respect uh a lot of people want to know how what the state of your

health is these days yeah I mean would you ask someone in the hospital what the state of their health is if you didn't know if I didn't know them yeah probably not yeah pretty rude huh that was rude Okay. No, I mean, I understand. I mean, you said it. I didn't want to get specific. I just wondering, like, you know, how you're feeling in general these days. I mean, how are you feeling? I feel fun.

It could be better. Fair enough. Okay. Anything else we should talk about? What are you excited about these days? I mean, I'm excited about when. once a fear like throws up in my butt again or something like over my back you know like I was like ah you know next thing

throw up on your butt what the fuck do you just say like when you carry your baby oh okay you just throws it you like and it hits your ass oh my god I felt it like dripped down my back a bit I don't think it's made it all the butt it got far wow

you're really painting a picture here Like, nah, I'm just excited about, like, the future of being, like, you know, walking my son down the aisle or something like that. I don't know. I mean, do we get to do that as mom's fuck? What? Walk our son down the aisle. We got to, like, wait. Walk your son down the aisle.

Does a woman get to do that? I think so, right? Maybe, no. I'm the puppy. Right. You ask you my gender pronouns or, like, you didn't ask you. I want to do. You called dad.

I don't know that they would. necessarily considered dad a pronoun. Exactly. You didn't ask me for what to be called dad, but you asked me about pronouns. If no jumper wants to adopt or adapt to the new way that the world works,

we should have a form when people come in here where they have to fill out their pronouns. We are dads. If we want to be respectful dads, yes. Dad crew. I don't feel like I've ever interviewed anybody where their pronouns were an issue.

Like, I've interviewed a bunch of trans people, too. but it was obvious that their pronouns were the gender that they were. I mean, I think you just didn't know because I've seen a couple of your interviews. Where I misgendered someone? No, you just didn't know. Yeah, because people would be trying to trick you with the they, them thing. It's like, I know there's only one of you. The thing.

I know there's only one of you. You go out thinking if you're seeing double vision for me to say. I'm sorry, that is the hardest thing in the world to get used to. I'd be like, what you mean they? Who else? Yeah, like, what? Look at my eye, niggas, like, watch out. Bro, I've tried to explain that to some of my homies who don't know anything about non-binary.

And let me tell you, it is not easy to explain the concept of that. People are like, hell of sick. I'm like, like, some people just be bored sometimes. Like, I'm everybody. Call me everybody. Like, come me, like, what? People are just really scared of being boring. I think.

That's true too, but that's with everybody. Nowadays, it's like nobody wants to just be a plain-ass old white lady. They're like, no, there's two of me. I'm with them. Not Karen. They're like, no, without this, you would be a Karen. I'm Karen with a Y. Right.

Karen with a Y. That's dope. My son calls me his term. My first name. He calls you Karen? No, just you're saying. That's the whole white woman. You ever watch the office?

No. I was just talking with currency about how there's like a beautiful woman on the show named Karen and you're like you love her and it's kind of weird that she's a Karen in retrospect. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. They would never name her Karen. What's your idea of beautiful? Because when I seen the office, I never seen her. What's her name Regina?

What's the? Regina Jones. Quincy Jones's daughter. Hey, that's somebody's daughter. Yeah, but she's like 35 or something. She's like probably 45 now. Oh man Nothing really like

I'm excited for it But the main thing that I got from this Is that Idris is a baddie Mm-hmm Idris I did not say You didn't say it I said it I'm giving myself quote of the interview

I'm dead I'm deceased What do you want to tell them to look out for? Um shit More rapping? No, I just got this new agency. Okay.

R&M. And I'm just trying to, like, get niggas that were put on the back burner like me at first. Well, I mean, I can't say that. But, niggas that was just, you know, left off the board. I was left off the board, like, in the agency. You see all the Victoria Cigmas when you walk in. And then as soon as the niggas start hitting and making bread, he's going to fuck with you.

So it's like that one, the only black guy. girl with the tattoos all, like, like, yeah, and I'm going to shave my head again and again and again. For life? You can measure me. I don't care. You're never going to gray your hair out? I can't see that happening. Some people are married to, you know?

Amber Rose, I can never see her really having a full head of hair. Yeah, I, I fuck her more hair. I mean, without hair. But do you throw a wig on ever? I mean, defends a country already. Really? You try to make yourself a nice. anonymous real quick I try with you I mean at the end of the day you want a mask on you

know and I'm like do I wear a wig you're gonna be like nice wigs like my own mouth is the thing but don't you when you have a mask on you feel like you just get like a thousand times less people noticing you yeah niggas try to get little like you know so the mask is kind of buzzing I fuck with the mask but I can't I can't breathe you cannot breathe and not breathe on these things I was trying on clothes at the mall the other day with the mask on and I'm like this is not fair this isn't right I'm getting all fucking out of breath and shit I can't breathe like this It's like quintessential muzzle muzzle something make me a shit that says that we could start a band I don't know if I want to say quintessential that many times in my life That's just gonna hurt I don't know why did random words about my

scoff yes our vocabulary is broad broad and deep deeper than the ocean I'm deep I'm deep that's the only thing

I want anyone to get from this interview we're deep we're deep and we like Idris we like the Meg okay I appreciate you coming on

hey you already know bro I'm taking this water with you though you can have some free water that's fine we got chips and everything out there too if you want to get some sodium in your system

I don't have enough pockets bro you don't have to take them you just eat them do we have pockets probably got gummies and shit too I mean do we have pockets we'll give you a bag even a whole bag of chips and candy is this Costco

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