No Jumper - The Sneako Interview: Getting Banned off Social Media, Kanye, XXXtentacion & More

Episode Date: October 17, 2022

Adam talks to Sneako about being banned from several platforms and Sneako tries to grill Adam about his adult content! --- 00:00 Intro 2:07 Sneako was banned from Twitch for eating a salad only two days after he started streaming 2:44 Got banned from Youtube for misinformation but maybe just because he met Andrew Tate 6:20 Sneako is offended that Adam listens to Destiny more than him 13:01 Andrew Tate now streams on Rumble and does great numbers 15:01 Getting the news about the ban while in Europe: "There's no point on being sad about it" 17:08 Sneako says Trump never ordered the Capitol "riot" and Tate is not a tra****er 20:19 These bans were coordinated and says they all work together to target specific personalities 22:46 Sneako says p__ is depressing, Sneako doesn't want his fans to sub to Adam's Plug Talk 29:00 Adam says there's no proof that Jesus is real, Sneako tells Adam how it can be observed 31:48 Sneako is adamant about not watching p___, says he used to be addicted 35:48 Adam sent Sky and Rara to Sneako to interview them and possibly _ them 41:47 Adam and Sneako back and forth: "J--- off, nah don't j--- off, or do!" 43:28 The S____ vibes explained to Sneako 46:40 The Dahmer documentary, Sneako says there's no more moral compass, why would people even watch that 54:20 Sneako would rather get head than actually f___ 59:00 MrGirl going at it with Flakko during Adam's interview 1:01:31 Kanye going down the same way Sneako and Fuentes got canceled 1:03:00 Sneako says he's painted as this guy but isn't, meanwhile, Fuentes is banned from everywhere even Rumble 1:05:11 Sneako points the finger at Adam for p___, meanwhile he's getting dome from random girls 1:12:06 Sneako takes over the interview: Has Adam changed since fatherhood? 1:12:50 Doing Plug Talk was easy, Adam says he's a natural, plus has access so it was only a matter of time 1:15:09 Adam says Sneako is pretending to be anti porn so he put himself in a box 1:19:52 Sneako asks when Adam will think he has enough money 1:26:56 Sneako didn't care for the Patrick Cc video 1:30:18 The ban makes it harder for Sneako to grow but he still has big dreams like making movies 1:33:17 Sneako tries to shame Adam about p___ again 1:42:20 "We're all hypocritical to some extent, but we still recognize right from wrong" 1:46:02 Sneako uses X as an example as someone who was trying to better himself, says p___ doesn't make you reach that point 1:47:01 Adam claps back with an X story, when Adam hooked up with some girl, X hit him up to fly that same girl to spend time with her, X was also indulging - Sneako has no comebacks 1:48:38 Adam says Sneako should go back to modeling --- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumper, coolest podcast on the world. Sneiko is in the building. Adam 22. Last time I was with you, it was in a Bushwick apartment on a dark street across the street from a boarded-up bando. Yeah. And now here we are in L.A. I made it out of there. That was, my life has changed a lot in a couple months.

That was fun, though. It seemed weird that you lived there, though, just based on, like, it's like a woke. It's a woke borough. That's why I got out. Brooklyn's a woke borough. But this is not necessarily, this is like a normal-ass neighborhood. Like a random-ass part of Bushwick. I didn't see any people on the block.

And the street lights weren't on. It was dark as far as much. There's a lot of block parties. It's usually active. Oh, really? A lot of Dominicans, blasts music at the car. Oh, okay. But you lived in that area for like a long-ass time?

Two years. Oh, okay. That was in Harlem before. It just didn't seem like a good fit for somebody like you. Where do you think would be a good fit? Miami. There we go. Yeah.

Yeah, in Miami now. My said it was very different. I mean, before I was banned, it's just one little fish eye on a Joby tripod and my shitty blue Yeti mic. We're just both staring at my computer screen. I like that shitty setup. Every time I have a guess on, they're like, oh, this is terrible. Right. But there's something to having a terrible setup, like speed or, you know, streamers.

It's just they like the, I think it's proven that people care more about the person than the setup. Right. But this is a dope studio looking around. This is a way. I feel like also then at the same time, you're kind of competing on setup a little bit. not that much, mostly personality, mostly what you're doing and what the actual entertainment is.

But then I feel like, to a certain degree, when I look at Vlad's content, and it's filmed with 4K cameras and it looks like perfect quality, it definitely influences the way I think about the content a little bit. So if you do make money doing this, I feel like it's worth investing in,

but at the same time, I understand as a Twitch streamer especially, it's like all about the content. Here's my little ass camera on my head, and then here's the screen. Yeah, he uses a webcam, I think. I don't even think he has a camera. He doesn't?

I think he got one. Most of the time, it looks terrible quality. Well, he'll be happy to hear that because I'm pretty sure he spent money on expensive camera at some point. You know, I got banned on Twitch already? Yeah, what was this for? I got banned on Switch.

It's the everlasting question is what was this for? Because it doesn't really... I was eating a salad. And they said I was ban evading. By eating a salad. Yeah. I don't know what it was. I mean, that's what I was doing when I was banned,

but permab ban. You can get fucked on Twitch and get a seven-day ban. You know, that girl who got took dick. on live. She got seven days. She got seven days, and I got permanent ban. Right.

And you're not really sure about exactly what you were. They said ban evasion. And so some people told me that it's because if you ban a one-on platform, then Switch can ban you. But I don't know what I was evading. I just started streaming.

I never heard that. So you went to Twitch from YouTube? Yeah, after I got banned on YouTube, I went to Twitch and then got banned in two days. Okay. And then the million-dollar question is also why you got banned on YouTube. Are you familiar with any particular videos? So I got three strikes.

What were the strikes? Strikes 4? COVID misinformation, election misinformation, and cyberbullying. And these were on streams or these YouTube videos? Streams, all streams. Oh, well, stream clips. Okay. So, yeah, I would post it was on another channel, but then they got all my channels. I saw you speculating it with the scene the other day. You drove me over here. Right.

Yeah, a lot of people are pretty uncertain about it. But I think it was a bigger decision because the cyber bullying one came when I was in Bucharest. I feel like they saw me shaking hands with Andrew Tate and they wanted to. just, you know. Right. Because Andrew Tate didn't get this, the series of warnings, right? His shit just got taken down.

He just shut them out, yeah. Which is kind of bizarre. Which is pretty much what happened to me. Yeah, but you feel like it was a coordinated campaign by who? By the executives of big tech. And even the government, too. I think they all worked together. Why would you think it was them instead of some particular, like, fandom that doesn't

like you? No, they don't listen to the fans. They don't get a fuck about it. There were people not supporting me, but I don't think it was that. But when somebody like Destiny gets banned, don't you think it's fair to say that that's, just coming from like fan fan groups that don't like him

that's true but I don't know why they don't review that and I think it was because Destiny started saying some red pill shit I think it's because he was starting to talk about how written house and he's talking about trans people and this woke guy is starting to shift over a lot of these program bots to believe

in truth yeah he like finally had a moment where he started to say some shit that went against the basic like trans orthodoxy that you should go along with and which is pretty crazy because when you really look at it destiny is about as pro trans as you can imagine a person being and I guess a large percentage of his audience identifies as trans and he if you were to listen to him talk about trans people you would think that he's the most open-minded person but he just hasn't ticked every last box he's been critical of a couple of trans people etc and for that it's enough for him to forever be banished from being cool with these people it's it's getting I'm wondering what do you think about all this. Everybody I talked to, I've been talking to Bradley Martin, academics, freshman, all these people, and everyone is starting to realize that this is a really strange time in social media. It's a shift. You've been doing it for the longest time. I've already told you've been watching you for years, but I feel like right now it's getting to this communist level. And there's really, I think, an opportunity for another website or somebody else to overturn all this bullshit. There's no way that everybody, all the normies, don't see this bullshit. Right. And it's just getting to the point, where let's say that every person who's been banned from social media had a channel on rumble and was able to actually make an amount of money that was close to what they could make off youtube all of a sudden rumble starts looking like a

a viable app that people might actually want to have when you think about andrew tate if he's able to speak freely on an app i mean that app is probably going to get a lot of fucking people on it so i kind of feel like youtube by banning all these creators is basically just like creating this big fucking opportunity for people to be able to actually gravitate towards one of these platforms and every time you push one more person off the platform or Steve will do it, you, whoever, it just kind of is going to keep building up in people's minds. Like, you know, I myself haven't really had someone banned from YouTube who I watch on a day-to-day basis, but if Destiny was banned off YouTube instead of Twitter, I watch Destiny all the time, boom, I'm a daily Rumble user all of a sudden. Yeah, you watch Destiny more than me? Yeah. Damn, man. You're woke?

Well, I don't know. How do you align more with him than someone on the Red Pills side? I feel like I'm probably more of a leftist. Have you been banned on anything before? No. I had my Snapchat deleted back in the day, but it's because I had a girl eating another girl's ass on it. To be honest, it seemed kind of fair.

Yeah, don't do that. I had to make a new one. Yeah. Don't do that. I don't want to get banned, though. And when I, okay, this is the thing about me, though, is when I came in the game, I was making the edgiest content I could. I realized pretty quickly, as soon as I got out of doing the BMX stuff,

or while I was still doing the BMX stuff, when I started doing no jumper content, all my best ideas are basically just edgy shit. I did acid in the woods, stuff about threesomes and just fucking random girls, even like I had all these vlogs back in the day, some of which have been privated in which I'm basically just like, going out and getting drunk and doing coke with a bunch of girls and like i'm not showing sex but i'm showing damn near everything else is definitely videos where you can see the lines on the table and shit like that they don't ban that at that time this is pre-adpocalypse so it kind of felt like a free-for-all

i remember one time i showed my now fiancee rubbing my boner through my fucking shorts and i got my video taken down for that and i was shocked because i just didn't really this is maybe 2016 i didn't know that many people who had had videos removed. I thought for sure she could be rubbing my boner through my jeans and I would be all right. Nope. Why did you want to put that on YouTube? Because I hadn't really seen that kind of stuff.

Like I didn't know enough. I'm the kind of person I'm going to have to push right up to the line. I didn't realize that was over the line. I thought I would have to actually show the dick. YouTube has changed. YouTube has really changed. All that old shit with Low Pump. What show with Low Pump?

Him shooting out the car? No, I just, I went on tour with Lowell. pump a couple like really once and it was ignorant to say the least but somehow i never really crossed that line because i have a friend dope as yola who has like a weed he has a podcast he talks about weed a lot he smokes weed he does good with the podcast but before the podcast like 10 years ago or whatever he was a YouTuber who made all his videos about weed right and so everything he fucking posted he never made any money on it he said that if if he had been monetized he would have made three million but because he was pretty much demonetized from day one he made like zero dollars and i'm all i'm just

so thankful that we always kind of got thought of by youtube as like an interview show where people happen to be smoking weed and not like a weed show because it feels like a lot of the weed specific youtube content got really hammered like that cannabis dude what's his name and i mean we did lose 90% of our income at one point because of all the rappers going on to smoke a weed well just because of the apocalypse. We just lost ads on almost everything for a while. Yeah, I wish I got in during that time. Yeah. But there's a shift. There's a shift that's happening.

And I want people to start waking up to that. I'm optimistic about it. I'm optimistic. What would you do if you were my shoes right now? That's what I think about all the time. When I saw Steve Will Do I get banned, I'm just trying to think. And I'm kind of surprised that he's been pretty quiet since then. I know he's done some podcasts with Bradley Martin and stuff, which I should check out. But he hasn't like announced a new game plan for how to get

back into the game how does he's doing a weekly videos he's been stocking up on videos for the past couple of oh he is and he's doing it on rumble or what on rumble yeah he just he has like a whole catalog of videos ready to go oh okay yeah because for him it's like you know if you get banned off one platform like his situation is different than yours because he could go hard on ticot

and fucking uh facebook and all these other platforms he could probably make so much goddamn money on facebook and he doesn't necessarily need youtube but we do you know oh we make stupid money on facebook How? You just upload videos, same thing as YouTube. Really? Yeah.

The same exact videos is post it on Facebook? Yeah. And it's like the algorithm is so different that you can upload shit more than once and it'll still do good. Like if you go look at fucking Logan Paul's Facebook or I haven't done this in a few years or whatever, but you'll see him uploading vlogs from like 2016 and getting like a million views off a fucking old vlog and it'll still do good because Facebook's consumers are so stupid. I want to text my editor right now about that. Yeah. Just upload shit on all the catalog everything that's what you got you got a guy that will do all

before you what cuts does he's taking 25 or something does work that's what he does with mine let's do it's great um but yeah I mean like I don't know that that but it feels weird to get banned off one tech platform and then just go oh we're gonna embrace all the other ones even though we know that you like usually work in unison to ban people so how are you thinking about you You can't have Facebook? No, I can have Facebook. Oh, okay. Yeah, Zuckerberg is still on the good side.

Right. Even that I could still be on YouTube. Right. You just have to be more creative about it. Yeah, so could you be part of a podcast on YouTube? That's what I want to do. That's the objective right now. I think I need to have one foot in the mainstream, especially the stuff I talk about.

I think it's good if I had a mainstream presence and I was working on a squad because they're not going to delete the whole squad channel. Right. Just because I'm on it. That's what I was thinking. I was like, obviously you're probably too busy and successful to do this, but I was like, what if Sneko just works at no jumper and makes videos on no jumper?

Or like even if he had a show on no jumper? And then it's like, like, why is that ban evading? No, it's not. It's not. Hmm. I think that would have to be the move. But also I want to continue live streaming. Like that's the bread and butter.

I don't want to be, you know, working under somebody completely. I would do that just so that I could have my face in different places, especially because they're trying to ban me all over the internet. But yeah, I still want to have my core live stream. I could just sit there and talk for five hours straight every night. So then you went to Twitch and then they got rid of you. So what's the plan now? So I have different channels now.

You know how people can get around bands on YouTube. And also we're looking for deals on other websites. And I'm going to start developing my own website. Because the secret sauce I'm able to get into, we're talking right now like this is just like us. It's been social media game. But all the traffic from my streams comes in from YouTube shorts, TikTok, IGreels, short form content is how I drive. people into my streams so that that can't go anywhere if i have like a bunch of fans a bunch of employees working on it then my face is going to show up on your phone regardless right but if they if they

but i mean what do you do like if you're Andrew tate what do you do if you're just like really not allowed to be on these platforms like what did you talk to him or what his game playing is he's been running up on rumble streams every week on rumble really he just streams on there you didn't see it no i was on it too oh okay i just came back from bucoress oh right when it is uh i seen some of it like re-uploaded on youtube but okay that's where he's actually actually doing the numbers are pretty damn good on rumble too how many viewers he has live 50 50 000 yeah on rumble the first one he had 150 wow yeah they're doing well and i think youtube should be afraid of that youtube should be saying like yo i think we made a mistake i'm wondering if they're gonna

ever flip the ban especially if everybody thinks is bullshit if they're ever going to go back on their word because it's possible but it's possible but we i don't think that we've really seen that happen with almost anybody right like myel milo got banned like six seven years ago six years ago, whatever. Off of everything? Pretty much all at once. I think he got banned off face. He might still be on like Facebook and Instagram maybe, but like he definitely got banned

off Twitter and YouTube, I believe, at the same time. And they never went back on that, even though their reasoning for banning him was pretty shaky at the time as well. What do you do? Because he's gay. He should get away with a lot of shit. Yeah. And British.

He, uh, it was when that girl version of Ghostbusters came out. What do you say? He made fun of the female Ghostbusters? Yeah, and I think they got on him for basically like causing his fans to go harass what was her name, Leslie Jones and talk shit to her. So basically GD on Pockeman just

But I'm pretty sure, like I don't think that he, I never saw a screenshot of a tweet that made me actually believe that he in any way incited them. So I felt like that was a good sounding excuse but normally I would expect to see some proof of this sort of thing. And I never saw anything.

Fat, black, she's good. Yeah. That's all you need. You're protected. What are you, like, okay. Where are you planning on going with this in Miami now? Like, how is your life changed now? What does the new game plan look like?

And how long were you depressed when you were in Romania when you first heard about the band? I was actually, I was in London. We took a private jet from Bucharest to London so that Andrew can go on Pierce Morgan. And then we were all in London. I was shopping. then you got the emails It wasn't, I mean, that night I went on fresh and fit And just talked my shit

There's no point of being depressed about it There's no point in living with regret There's no point in being sad Like I guess some people were telling me like Oh, you deserve to be sad about it for a week You deserve to like deserve to, what does that do? Right There's nothing to do but just to come up with the new plan

And keep moving forward so You know, I was doing it for a long-ass time I talked about that all that I grew up on YouTube But there's no point to sit and wallow Luckily somebody in my course of creativity kit Saved all my videos Really? I lost a lot of it because I've been doing

Call of Duty videos from way back But somehow to back up I might just post it on Facebook That's a good idea Right I mean it was I predicted it I was talking about a lot

I think even when you came on my stream I started Yeah you're prophesizing That this was to come for sure Yeah I just don't think That they want you to hear What I'm talking about I think it's that simple

I think all the bullshit about Misinformation I got a nudity Strike at one point Cyberbullying I think is a bunch of horseshit I just don't think that they want you to hear anything about what I'm talking about I think they want to make men weaker genuinely and I think I was helping

out people I think I was exposing the truth about a lot of stuff I think what's for sure is that you could like offend individual YouTube employees and get banned by those employees and I would say that that's probably the case with destiny and stuff is that he earned the dissatisfaction of like a decent amount of these like

trans people and shit who fucking call the shots at Twitch one blue-haired employee with the switch exactly and if there's just not enough pushback, if there's not enough reasonable people in the room to be like, no, actually that guy is just sort of a guy. He's not a hate monger that these things just go through.

And then I feel like that once they make the decision, they feel like they can never go back on it. The biggest thing that pisses me off in all of this is I feel like there needs to be a court of sorts. Like you should not just be able to be banned from YouTube completely. A timeout. Exactly. That, regardless of the fact that we don't think you should have been banned or suspended, whatever, in the first place.

But if there was a court where it says, you harassed another creator, you did this thing that we consider to be against terms of service, or you have this period ban or whatever, and that there was some way that you could plead your case down the road. That just seems like it makes way more sense to me. Well, it doesn't have to make sense. It doesn't have to make any sense. There's a very clear liberal agenda. I know you said you left us, but look at everybody who's been banned Donald Trump, Alex Jones, me, Tate, all these people are going. against the woke agenda and they need to do something to shut it up because they're actively

pushing this and they want everybody to believe in it it's it's borderline communism at this point with information there's a clear reason that everybody on the right wing is getting banned by all these woke people james charles who like is texting 17 year old boys cardi b is drugging men and she's still in the fucking white house right but if she made a tic-tok bragging about drugging men everybody would do it against to it she would have a problem no on her hands no yes i think it would be trending. They'd make a sound to it and then all the kids would do it. Cardi B talking about that back in the day was a product of her existing in a space in which there was nobody to tell her that it was not okay to talk about.

What about James Charles then? Why do they not ban him? And he's like openly texted, like caught multiple times texting little boys and shit. Well, it's not on platform first, right? Like, it's not like he's like YouTube banning someone for something that they did on TikTok would be a weird state of affairs, right? That's kind of what happens. to me on Twitch. And that's kind of the excuse that they use of Donald Trump or Andrew Tate. They say that they have criminal charges. Donald Trump was inspiring a violent riot. Andrew Tate is a human trafficker. They try to pretend like they're criminals and there's no criminal record at all. Donald Trump never told anybody to storm the Capitol. Andrew Tate never got

any trouble for human trafficking. It's all bullshit. I went to his house. It's all bullshit. I agree that you should not have been banned and that I don't understand their reasoning for it. But the problem with it is that I think that the social media companies do have the right to ban whoever they want off their platforms. Do they, even though it controls information? I mean, social media is the reason that Donald Trump won the election in 2016. If information directly influences elections, then they should not have the right to be able to have a bias because they clearly do. The only people that are getting banned are against the woke agenda. I think if you're going to say that Twitter and Facebook and Instagram don't get to make decisions about who they have on their platform,

then they need to be treated like something way different than what they are currently. Because right now, they're just businesses that can interview or work with whoever they want. Like the case would be like, my podcast, I get to decide who I have on it. So if I think that Sneco is a terrible guy and I don't want to have them on my podcast, then I get to make that decision. Twitter is in a sense not any different. It's a platform that can have whatever users they want, on their platform.

And if they decided that Alex Jones is too unseemly of a person, they can decide that he's just not allowed on their platform. The problem is they all work together and they all coordinate these attacks. Andrew Tate was banned on LinkedIn, Uber, Uber Eats, Airbnb. Same thing with me, I've been on Twitter,

TikTok, Twitch, YouTube, all at the same time. They clearly worked together and especially right before that happened. I don't know if you were on my shooting before happened. They played my clip with Fuentes in the Senate committee. We were making fun of the powers that be and I did a little song and dance about a specific religion.

And they played it in the and they said that it's a threat and I'm inspiring domestic terrorism. So I agree with you if they didn't very obviously work together. Yeah, the fact that they coordinated and the fact that, like, I do think that they should probably be treated differently than just every other business. Like I think that at some point, and I think that Facebook, even when you watch Mark Zuckerberg in the fucking Senate hearings or whatever that he was in, he's almost asking them to regulate his business because the amount of power that they have,

right now is ridiculous and I think even him as the guy who created this beast he knows that it would probably be better off if there was like much stricter regulation around how they were able to operate. Well they do they do tell them what to do the FBI called them up and they told them that you need to start saying that this misinformation a hundred Biden's laptop is problematic and is so they they are influenced they they all work together and I just I don't like that that private company argument. I think the information is too loud, especially Google owns every single Android phone and YouTube is the Google. It's Google's company. It's too powerful. And when we live in a world in which like, you know, if you're a small business, let's say that your Yelp rating or your

Google rating or whatever is such a gigantic part of your business. The idea that they could then just do whatever they want when this is like the lifeblood of issues that affect small businesses, it just doesn't seem right. Like at a certain point, there needs to be some kind of oversight. I don't think that these, as much as I do think that that argument about them having their own First Amendment right to, like, have whoever they want on their platform, I do think, like, you know, when you look at how big the effect is of having somebody banned in coordination by all these companies at the same time, I mean, it's just like an outsized effect. And we can't just act like it's the same as me and Joe Rogan saying, no, we think that guy's gross.

We don't want to have them on the podcast. Like being deleted off Facebook and Instagram and Twitter is fundamentally way different. And they actually, they should look at, I think it should be obvious to a lot of people, the type of content that's able to stay on the platform. Like you got your plug talk show now. Yeah. You can fuck girls on a podcast and then promote right after you can have, you can be smoking weed for years and like promote drug use and stuff like that.

But we have to be careful because when we're doing plug talk, it's like we upload these clips on social media and we never really hint at the fact that there's the sex part on only fans like if the if the tic-tok clips ended with go watch us fuck on only fans hell no we're gone but they know yeah for the most part oh yeah we're trying to get the message out to them as much as possible only plug talk dot com if you're a sneako fan go sign no don't don't five bucks a month beat your meat don't don't don't beat your meat do not give you it makes people sadder man it makes it makes these men upset bro you're the one you're the one you're the one you're getting all the pussy and then they're watching feeling jealous about you and they want to be you.

Yeah. And it's like I watch basketball highlights and then I go out and I kill it on the basketball court. I watch Jamie Thomas skateboard. And then I go to the skate park and I do a fucking kickfoot. Do porn addicts go kill it and fuck a porn star? They should. That's what you do. You beat your meat and then you go to the bar and you find a girl and you demonstrate the moves that you just saw Johnny Sins do on women that you met at the bar.

Okay. How did Johnny Sins get to the bar? that point. By watching porn? No. Shut the fuck. No, man. It really ruins guys' ideas about relationships. It's bad for them. What are you talking about? Porn is bad for men. Porn is glorious. If I didn't beat my meat, I would be losing my mind. You could beat your meat to memories. Oh, I do. And believe me, I'm one of the biggest advocates of beating your meat to your memories in the world. I really don't want my fans to go and beat their meat watching you fuck other bitches on a podcast.

I got a lighter. I forgot mine. I got one in my office. I hate, I hate interrupting the podcast to fucking ask for a lighter. I can just smoke weed in your face. You're going to be all right? Yeah, sir. You're not going to hit it, though? I'm a man of God, man. If you get high, what, because you're like a Muslim or some shit?

Or a Christian? I might take a little hit. You see the bad influence at him? Turn up, turn up, turn up. It must feel weird for you that this is live. It is. It is. I miss you, chat. Chat. I need to go back.

man I need to get back I really miss the energy of having a live audience even like now being at a podcast it feels so much slower when I have the live pressure of the chat running up I know how to like stay on all the time here I am I'm like yeah porn's good but that's just so toxic I feel like the chat I'm gonna be real with you I feel like the chat is like the biggest difference between a podcast and like a lot and a Twitch stream or a live stream you know because when we do this and you can see the chat right there yeah number one if the people are not used to being our podcast they just get locked on it and they stop talking and you just see them freeze up. My chat

was like being pretty hostile. No, I don't give a fuck. Because I'm used to it because I stream all the time so I'm used to see in the chat go crazy. But I have a really religious audience. They were calling you like a Satanus and stuff like that calling you Freemason. But I'm like expecting that. Of course if it's a religious audience they're going to think of the fucking devil. I have a devil on my hand. A devil on your hand.

It feels like nobody cared about that until I won your stream and you asked me about it and then all of a sudden became a big thing. It's a big thing though? You know what really took me by surprise? The fact that I've been thinking about that a lot. Bill Clinton autograph that you had as a kid I'm like,

bro, I'm really like deeper to these like Epsine Island conspiracy theories now and those are like the forefront of those people the fact that you knew them from like way back

and the day. But there's no evidence that he actually fucked any children, right? I don't think any direct evidence. I don't know if I'll ever see it. It's all belief. Prayers with Bill.

Because I really hope if my memory of Bill Clinton got dismantled by the fact that I found out that he was really running through chicks with Epstein, that would suck.

and honestly the fact that you got a blowjob from Monica Lewinsky I mean that's pretty gee we already have a reason to believe that he is of questionable moral character you know so it's like got head from got head from someone that he was not supposed to get head from in the form of an intern went to Epstein's island what are the odds that he got head from somebody that he wasn't supposed to get head from on the island meaning an underage person very probable he did he did and you got his autograph I believe that the US government will conspired to protect Bill Clinton from being exposed for

fucking children on Epstein's violent. They can't let the public they don't want the population to know that everybody's going to run wild. I mean that would just be such a jarring revelation for America. Nobody would believe it or everybody would believe everybody would run wild. Nobody would know. It'd be a tough day to be an American. It would be a great day to be a Republican. It'd be a great day to be a content

creator. Yeah, right. Especially if there was like tapes. It was like the R. Kelly tape. Oh, there's tapes for sure. Of Bill Clinton and Little Girls. Yeah, they all blackmail each other. They all blackmail each other. It's out there.

There's C.P. Bill Clinton, all the billionaires I went to that island. I'm telling you, man. That was like freaking me out because my chat was like, be careful, be careful. Because they saw the Satanist tattoos, the Bill Clinton thing. You're like, oh, I'm like, whoa, what's going on? And you got the upside down cross, too? How atheist are you?

I mean, I just am an atheist. I don't know how extreme of an atheist you can be. Doing porn. I did hear, I heard a commentator on TV say one time he goes, I'm a hardcore atheist and they go, well, what does that mean? He goes, I don't believe in God and I don't believe you believe in God either.

And I was like, I kind of relate to that because I kind of feel like everybody when they tell me they believe in God is kind of bullshit in me. I'm sure that you don't agree. No, no, I do agree. That a lot of people are. I don't know about a lot of people, but I have a hard time believing in it fully, but I just think it's good.

I think it's good for people to follow that, especially like in the direction that America's going and that a lot of people are going. It's stuff like porn I think is like pushing people away from where they need to be mentally. Well, I can kind of agree with you that if there was a god, if there was somebody who controlled the world and made it so that when people do bad things, that they get punished for it, and that when people do good things, they get rewarded for it, do I think that would be good?

Yeah. Yeah, that's karma. I just don't think that's real. But it's better to believe in that. It's better. What you believe in should be based on what you can observe, not what you think would be the best for the world. Okay, but you can't observe atheism. Well, you can observe the lack of evidence of there being a God.

How do you observe that? I've yet to see any evidence of it. Love and life, like feeling. You can't observe feelings. Jesus has revealed himself on earth before, right? He's supposed to be coming back. Right. But what about the connection that you have with your daughter?

There's like there's something that you feel. It's a different feel. Because when you look into her eyes, there's a different feeling that you get than when you look into my eyes or something like that. That doesn't lead me in the direction of believing in God at all. You can't observe that. That's not something that's a different. But it's something that you feel and that your daughter feels and that everybody in the room, like, that's energy. That's not something you can describe, but it is real.

I could describe it. But you can't see it. And you're talking about you can't observe God. You can't observe that feeling either. If I was going to believe in God, I would need a reason, right? Like, especially a specific religion, like Christianity. Like the idea of believing in a God is one thing. The idea of believing in this specific God based on this book, of which its origin seems very dubious to me.

that I have a real problem with. Maybe you don't have to believe in a specific religion, but the idea of God, I think, is good to follow. See, this is the degradation of what it actually means to be religious. Because when my mom, I was talking to my mom recently, and I asked her, when you were a kid, what did it mean to be religious? And she said that if you didn't believe in heaven and hell,

that nobody would have considered you a Christian. If you didn't believe that the Bible was the direct word of God, then there's no way that anybody would have considered you a Christian or religious. These days, people give themselves credit for being religious just by saying, I believe in God. Yeah, like, I'm the kind of person that believes in God, et cetera. And they spend no time reading the Bible or familiarizing themselves with these texts or trying to, they're going to church or trying to familiarize themselves with how God would want them to live their life or whatever. They just say they're religious and then they just move on with it. Is that wrong?

Yeah, it's stupid. It's just such a surface level engagement with something that's supposed to If God is real, it should be like the most important thing in your life. You should spend all your time thinking, if I believe that God was real, I would spend all my time trying to get closer to knowing exactly what God wanted for me. That seems like a waste of time. Why? If there was a supernatural being that was controlling the universe? Or you should understand that life is the way it is and is just better to follow that.

You don't need to constantly seek it because that's going to drive a lot of people insane. If there was a god, it would be the most fascinating thing in the whole world. If there was even a hint of evidence of him existing, it would be the most insane thing in the world. Instead, like, religious studies are, like, the most boring thing in the world because there's nothing to sink your teeth into. Have you ever met the people that watch Plug Talk? Sometimes.

I would assume it's a lot of the same people who watch No Jumper in general, so it's probably not that different. Just regular people. They don't they see people that you would hang out with I know a lot of people watch porn Like really almost everybody You watch porn? Yeah you do Do you watch porn? No

Do you watch porn? Yeah A couple minutes you're in there You don't watch it You're not fascinated I don't watch porn I used to a lot I used to be addicted to it Oh you're addicted

Yeah well not I don't know what addicted is But I used to like watch it every day I've never even been close to feeling like I was out of control of my. I wasn't out of control. I wasn't like obsessed with it, but I would watch it. They'd be times like, all right, time to go to bed, open up, uh, Reddit and then look at the specific subreddit and then fall asleep.

It was routine. Right. And I think that was a problem. Let me tell you. When I was young, I was watching porn just because I hadn't seen any of this. And like the idea that I could see a woman get fucked in the ass on the internet once that became an option when I was like 16 or whatever was like the most mind melting thing on earth.

Like how is this possible that I'm actually going to be able to see this? I just needed to see it. And then you become desensitized to it very quickly. Yeah, after like a couple years when I was young, by the time I was like... Well, by the time I was like 20 or 21, I noticed myself not really watching porn and just kind of beating off to like

actual sexual experiences I've had. But then I moved to L.A. And I start like fucking random porn stars and meeting girls. I meet a girl at the club and I know she does porn. I have to go home and search her on porn and find her content and beat my meat to it. I'm sorry. If I meet her in real life and she's done double anal on the internet, I have to see it, which I don't know why

that matters so much. Yeah, why do you have to see it? Like if I've shook her hand, I need to see her do anal. I'm sorry. That's just where I'm at. You're not shaking that hand and feeling the butthole on it. Like you're not. I want to see it. I get grossed out by that. I get a little grossed out by Annal? Not by anal, but even just now today we were doing a woman in a pocket interviewing people and these two girls sat down and they're like, we're cam girls. And they're both like, you can't do it. And like her nipples kind of like poking out of her shirt and she's saying, well, you need to tip me to see it. And I could still see it. And I'm just like, I don't like go away. Like you're a little gross. It's just the way they're

sitting and acting and moving and like knowing what they do for it. It's just. Yeah. Some girls are really fucking annoying about it. Yeah, like they just don't have a lack of personality. They don't have a base of reality at all. Girls who talk about getting tipped or like telling people to subscribe. You know the clips I was going viral. Girls like on Twitch. Like if you don't subscribe, I'm going to get off.

Or like I even love, I love the women posting their elves online or whatever, Twitter. And they'll always have like a screenshot of some girl complaining about how she got into only fans and she made like 30 bucks a month and how she hates it. and she's going to cancel. And it's like... Imagine posting your butthole and making no money off of it, like failing. It's just such a sad story. Like sometimes, like your business venture, right? Like, I understand, like, if you wanted to invest in, like, the Uber for crypto or whatever.

I know I should feel bad for her. But then imagine your butthole failing. Yeah, dude. What else are you going to do? Like, how do you bounce back from that? You tried everything. That's the last resort and it failed. It's like, what do you...

What's next? And there's been a few times where girls who are falling off or whatever have... tried to like ask me for advice and it's like you know because there is some stuff like you know in terms of what social networks you should use or whatever like how you should promote yourself what kind of stuff you should pose but you know most of it comes down to just how you look so it's kind of like if your butthole ain't popping then sorry they're not copping nice it was a rap podcast so i had to rhyme and i've been thinking a lot about like the demons and shit like that, especially starting to stream, like, seeing how much of a religious people watch it.

And then there was a specific moment where you texted me with those two girls that you wanted me to do a stream with. Sky and Roe and Roe Rupps. And then you were, I was already, like, on the fence about it. I'm like, demons. And I was, like, thinking about all the satanic stuff that's going on. Oh, so you actually are on the edge about interviewing two porn stars. No, no, no.

And then you're shook. You were texting me, like, text them back. They'll suck the soul out of you. And I'm like, demons! Demons! Like literally, I was already thinking about, like, Epstein's Island and the satanic worshiping that they're doing. So they're going to suck the soul out of you.

And then I looked at their Instagrams and like every fucking dude of the industry follows them, like Bryce Hall, all the L.A. guys follow her. I'm like, okay, she's fucked. Nelk girls followed her. I'm like, bro, this is what she does. They model for them, I think. They fuck for clout. They fuck for clout.

Well, that when I told you that they would probably suck the soul out you, I was just being real. I thought you should do content with them, but that also realistically, they could, they would probably fuck you. Yeah. Just me knowing you and like knowing, I feel like you would meet their standards of fucking. Obviously, I shouldn't speak for them in terms of who they would fuck. But I feel like they would give you a good go.

Do you believe in the exchange of energy? Because it's funny that you're so against that. But guys like X, X, X, we're always really in tune with how you should share your energy and how energy can affect how your music sounds and how people resonate with you. and then I think about like if I did let those girls you know still on the fence about do you really think your soul is in your come if they suck the soul out of you

it doesn't mean your soul's actually leaving your body there is an energy exchange when you interact with somebody or when you fuck a girl who has like no godly values or a girl who's like really nothing don't you afterwards like feel a sense of shame kind of like the guys that when you finish watching porn and you bleh you feel

afterwards you just feel your vibration is lowered after watching you know what it is after you watch a lot of porn, after like scrolling to the 60th tab to find the right video of the right anal, whatever the fuck. I don't let myself get that deep into it. But when you, that's happened.

You know what I'm talking about. And then like you leave your room. I just jerk off for like five minutes and whatever I find on porn hub. That works. You've never been down a porn hole? No. Like I'll jerk off for like five,

maybe like 10 or 15 minutes at most. Then maybe not you. But guys watching you know what I'm talking about. You're on the 60th tab, trying to find the right video. And then you leave your room and you're like, and there's a little bit of come in your shirt and then you got the lotion

and you just like you're vacant look in your eyes and you're kind of like a troll. If this is in lieu of everything else, like if I'm neglecting my child and my wife to go jerk off, yes, there's a problem. Guys that are addicted to porn get to that level. If I'm abandoning my business

so I can sit at home and jerk off, yes, what you're saying is true. That's not it. This is like a five-minute thing. It's like smoking a fucking cigarette before you go in the office. Except you do that outside the office. I'm not going to jerk off by the dumpster or anything. but you don't think that there is an exchange of energy it's me and myself me and my hand okay then maybe not

but like with you and a girl okay this i kind of agree with though because when i was single i have a lot of memories of like times where despite being drunk and coked up that i would still just have this like moment of realization of like what am i doing yeah or you wake up in the morning and you look at the girl and she's like a limp dead fish like her hair is not The wig is kind of fucked up. The makeup is smeared and it's like all these things that you are easily ignoring in the heightened drug enhanced state is just gone. And she is just a straight magic harp.

Just a blob of death and despair. And the birds are chirping and the sun's coming out and people are like getting in line for the bus to go to work and you're there with this fucking four with her wig. And she has nothing to do. That can be terrible. No job. realize like I have all these things I want to do today and she has nothing to do. Get rid of her. Get the fuck out of my life. Yes. And then even when she does leave her, she's still there. Like her, it's still like weighing in the room like a cloud of smoke, a cloud

of thought is still layered there. And then your vibration is lowered. You're there trying to do work and you're like, oh, fuck. And you're thinking about that dumb bitch that you spent all this time with. Yeah. And you're like, oh, okay. And you're cringing at all the shit that you lied to her about and listened to the conversations about her spiritual journey and her crystals. I don't think you should hang out someone you hate just to have sex with them, although, I mean, that's fair to do if you want to. You do that. I do content.

You make money off of it. Okay, but before, see, but this is why you're different than most guys, because you're monetizing those dumbass conversations. But a lot of the guys that you're saying, like, oh, look, you could watch porn and get better at it. They need to put up with all this bullshit. They need to go, and that's why girls get gassed up and they make no sense. sense and that's why like the girls who are like, tip me, they don't need to be likable at all

because guys will just put up with them for a little bit of a nut. I wouldn't put up with it. You wouldn't, maybe not, but you're a multimillionaire who's been doing it for a long time. I think the disconnection here is that when you get into the content creation space for so long, and I've had a lot of conversations similar to this. Guys like Bradley Martin, Nell, Andrew Tate, they don't really understand the vast majority of their audience at that level. You have millions of subscribers.

Right. Most people, you know this, are not even close to being able to fuck two girls on a podcast and make money off of it. That's a level of fame and clout and podcasting abilities and all that that most people will never reach. I'm aware that I'm not relatable in that way. You are? I'm not. Okay. And that like, you know, if I talk about what bitches are like, it's just not what most people are dealing with. With 99% of men.

Even when I talk to other porn star dudes and I realize the extent to which they get to no chicks, by being on set with them for like 10 hours straight. I'm like, damn, I'm only around him for like an hour and a half. I just interview him, bang them, and then I go sit in the other room. You got a great setup going. Yeah. But anyway, I still think dude should jerk off.

Or do if you want to. Jerk off. You'll be fine. I have found, like, when I was really successful, when I was really getting to the top of the streaming shit, I brought, I 10x my revenue stream, I started making connections. I'm here now.

I used to watch this shit in my dorm room. This is all because you stopped jerking off. Seamen retention is a real thing. makes you more powerful. Like protecting your energy, I'm telling you, like young guys watching this, it is a real thing. If you focus on self-improvement on eating the right foods, drinking the right water, not drinking tap water, not jerking off, sleeping on the right time, and then doing all the, going out in the sun, not like scrolling on social media, reading all this negativity, writing YouTube comments and hating, if you protect your energy and you focus on what you need

to do, the potential of your life is way bigger than you ever expected. I just feel like for me to protect my energy also means jerking off periodically. I think you should limit yourself. I think you should give yourself a cap. If you're jerking off more than two times a day, that could be an issue. A lot of guys, like, I would say 50% of the men watching this are at that level. Hmm. I don't know.

No? I don't know. Maybe. Why do you, what is that with, how do you protect your energy by jerking off? I don't understand that. It's the release that you make sense again? Because, listen, when I jerk off afterwards. Let me have that one time.

Can we go get another one from that thing, Donnie? You can take that one. Or if you want to grab me from that goat head in the other room? There's a goat head in you too? It's like a Satan head too. Why do you have all this Satan shit in here, Adam? The vibes. It makes me feel good.

No, Haram. I'm doing it. I needed them to do a prayer after this. Satan makes you feel good? The vibes. What is the Satan vibe? It's like a porcelain like Satan head. Why do you have that?

Zach from FTP gave it to me. Why did he give it to you? Because we're brothers of the same mind that we like devil shit, I think I don't know, I don't want to speak for him. Explain to me what you like about devil shit. Vibes, it looks cool. You ever draw like a little devil head with the horns on a piece of paper? No, I've never done that.

It's cute. Remember the little devil guy with a world industries, the skate company? No. People loved him. What's the, I don't get the vibe about a, of saying? Well, being that I don't believe in any of it, it's kind of, thank you. You're like rebelling against it? I mean, you can not believe in it also not encouraged.

Satan is the opposite of God. It's funny that you like the vibe of Satan. But here's the funny part. You actively deny the existence of God, but also like the vibe of the opposite of God. Just like drawings and imagery or, you know, if it were to be evoked in art in some way, that to me is fun.

But I don't mind God in the same way. I have some pants with like God and Moses and all this shit that somebody gave me. And I was rocking those. Nobody even bothered to ask me, hey, why is Jesus on your pants? So what's the vibe? The evil vibe?

The bad vibe? Because Satan is literally a bad vibe. There's only so many different types of images that you could really use. Why are you Ashen? You didn't even light it yet. There's all ashen. I don't want to get you sitting messed up. There's only so many, like, images from that period in terms of, like, old shit.

It's like the same reason why the Sistine Chapel looks cool, man. It's just some old art. And the devil, too, is just badass. Why is the devil badass I really want to know this You ever see like a Slayer shirt Yeah That's just tight

It's a bunch of evil shit It looks cool Cannibal Corpse All these all these metal bands Who rap or make music About evil shit It looks tight It looks so tight

That black kids Wear it from fucking Urban Outfitters That don't even know What the fuck it is Is Slayer's satanic imagery Or is it just like the font I don't think they have

Like actual goat heads And Satan tattoos And upside down crosses It's a lot of evil shit yeah because it's cool meanwhile on the other hand there's no good music about god danda's amazing that's not true no it's not danda is a great album jesus king i've been listening to that on repeat that's the only religious music you're familiar with i like gospel music okay i like people i like rappers that believe in god tupac talks about he talks about murder a lot but he talks about god sometimes 50 cent

raps about god sometimes a lot of rappers don't go fully into it but i've been listening to danda and jesus king on repeat. Every hour, every minute. I listen to it one time. It makes me feel better. When I listen to devil music, I feel my vibrations lower. Marilyn Manson, the beautiful peepa, the beautiful beeper. Yeah, and then you're in your car and you're like, yeah.

Yeah, I'm headbanging, getting into it. Yeah, but there's something negative about that. It's like the same way I can listen to like a push-hisi song about sliding on my ops, spinning the block and shoot somebody in the fucking head. You're not thinking about anything positive when you do that. It's like watching a horror movie. Did you watch the Jeffrey Dahmer thing? I watched the first episode.

I didn't really get that into it. I think that shit is sick. I think it's a denial about the fact that it's sick, right? He was a fucking dude killing. I think it's sick that there's a Netflix show about it. That everybody worships them and all these girls are obsessed with it. The fact that you probably like producer girl, are you obsessed with, do you watch murder documentaries?

Yeah. I like I was just stereotyping Sydney. Well, I'm right. I'm right. Like every girl, every girl watches these murder crime documentaries. A girl's fall asleep, Washington. Just now, on the plane here, this girl was falling asleep, watching Deffrey Dahmer eating bodies on Netflix.

Like, why are people falling asleep to this? Because there's a crisis in masculinity. Men are being encouraged to just be this weak, emaciated version of themselves, right? And so at the same time in history, we're finding women drawn to, like, portrayals of the most extreme evil men who've ever walked the face of the planet? That's a good point. But it's all the symptom of something negative.

It's all the symptom of a godless country of satanic ideas being pushed on people. The fact that girls are upset, men are becoming weaker, men of women are becoming stronger, the household is getting messed up. There's no more God. There's more porn. There's more only fans. Yeah, like at a time where women feel less oppression than ever, they, for some reason, have become obsessed with watching these portrayals of basically men who would kill them. Yeah. Hey, I'm not saying I understand it.

I can think of a few guesses. That's a good point. Are you insinuating that women inherently want to be afraid a little bit? They want to be, they want to live in some sort of fear. Because that's the whole point of watching a murder documentary is that it triggers their emotions. Oh my God, this is terrible.

And they could fall asleep to it. They kind of like feeling emotionally scared. And if it doesn't happen in real life, because if you're in wartime, if you're in Iraq, you're in serious you're not watching murder documentaries, you're not watching Jeffrey Dahmer your world is already you need to relax you're going to watch like adventure time

like it's a horrible feeling when I ask like a gang member have you seen this show and it's like a gang related show and they are like no I don't fucking spend my time sitting around watching like especially like an older dude yeah who's like Ben through it all had a shitload of his family members killed

whatever and he's just like doesn't want to spend his free time watching content about the that he basically went through, and I'm over here enjoying the show. Thing is dope, because I didn't directly live through it. Yeah, I think we're turning real-life experiences into entertainment too much. I mean, you see it on this podcast, too, like the amount of gang members that come on here, and drill music is becoming more popular, and it sounds dope.

I'm not going to lie, drill music sounds really good. Demonic music is addicting to listen to. It's fun, but it's fun because it's real. We don't like hearing imaginary stuff. Anything that's popping off on Netflix is a real-life documentary now. And there's still families of these victims out there for Jeffrey Dahmer. Imagine them seeing that happen. Oh, yeah.

I feel terrible for them. But everybody still indulges. Like, I know a girl who lost her fiancé recently died. And when it happened, like, she's kind of a public figure. He's kind of a public figure, but they're not like huge names. And when it happened for a moment, I was like, oh, fuck, it's going to be all in the media and shit. And then it wasn't. They just didn't really figure it out.

They didn't put it together. They didn't, because if they had, it would have been a fucking good story. And I was so happy for her that she did not get covered in the media because what she went through losing her fiance would have been so much worse. To read of it in social media. Yeah, and having to read comments sections of people passing judgment on her. Conspiracy theories about what happened. Maybe she did it. Exactly.

It 100% would have gone in that direction of people like trying to. imply that she was responsible and shit. It would have been terrible and it didn't happen and luckily she was spared. But the Jeffrey Dahmer thing is an example of like these people just have to live through this over and over and over. But even before the men becoming weaker and women

becoming stronger, what they showed in that show and I know this because I was tuning in on the airplane with that girl a little bit, he had fans. He was in the jail cell and they were sending him letters, I'm your biggest fan, here's some money and that was in the 70s. So even before feminism really took over

there was still this fascination with murderers that that is it lives in our in our society more in the west with the lack of traditional values compared to any other place there's no way that this would happen in the Middle East there's no way this would happen in Asia but I mean serial killer would be a celebrity but I mean throughout 99% of human history the the king of the society the guy who had the most control was the guy who was the biggest and toughest and killed the most people. And now we live in a world where it's not like that and where we make an effort if someone's violent, they get thrown in prison, and we make these documentaries about people like Jeffrey Dahmer who managed to evade the system for a period of time and do a lot of evil.

And I mean, I guess it's pretty understandable that some percentage of women, apparently a large percentage, would be fascinated with the types of men who in a lot of ways would have like ruled society for most of society. Dommer wasn't even doing like he was killing gay guys and eating their body. It was just doing sick shit. Yeah, he wasn't like your shit doing it. Go shit. Yeah, I'm definitely.

I'm all, I'm with him. Jeffrey Dahmer, same type of guy. Yeah, it wasn't like, I don't know. I was just doing sick, disgusting. You're right. Because if this was a documentary about a guy killing women, then you could kind of go in the direction of like, oh. And they both get fans. Dommer gets fans.

And so I don't know. But I think it's a reflection of something sick that lives in the minds of all of us. But the the gravitation towards negativity is just such a consistent thing. Like Sunny v2 as one of the biggest YouTube channels that I watch everything he uploads. Every single title is about somebody's life or career going in a bad direction, something really, really bad happening to them. You love this negative shit. But that's a guaranteed way to get views. If you title the video, how so-and-so had a great life and died a happy man. That does well. You're not clicking that. Hell fucking no.

Nobody's clicking on that. How you get rich videos? Like positive motivational videos do well. How to get rich is a certain genre. That's pretty much how this guy became happy and how he died successful is how to get rich. If I make a one hour video called Why Sneco is a piece of shit. Oh, it's just way better than why Sneeco is a good person. Yeah, yeah.

Rather than why everybody is wrong about Snecoeco. Yeah. Even that could maybe get some views because it's implying that I'm going to be talking about people who don't like you. But if I just title the video. video, Sneko is a great guy. I love Sneiko. Nobody's clicking it. Yeah. And they're going to call you Dick Rider. Yeah. Everybody's going to say like, why you're dick riding? But if you say something negative, like in a three hour video, like, yeah, good job.

For a moment, I could say something negative about you on a one hour stream and boom, that's going to get, even if I don't upload it, somebody else is going to upload it as a short or whatever and that's going to go crazy. We're incentivized to be negative by these platforms. I don't think it's just the platforms. It's just what we're It's also human nature. It's human nature. That's why fighting does well. Nobody watches hugging.

We watch UFC fights. We want to see someone lose. We want to see someone win. Right. So I guess you're a professional head getter. You don't like to get in the guts. Why is that? It's just it's easy.

The cleanups right there. Because I fuck with it. I was always a guy that was trying to fuck unprotected. When I look back at it now, that was a wild boy that's not that's a lot of trust in a random hag that you really don't know

from a can of paint a lot of energy exchange but with the mouth I mean the mouth there's less it's spit there's no blood there's no fluids there's no risk of pregnancy a lot easier it's no reproductive trapped I would argue it feels better I would argue yeah the actual feeling

just that alone feels better listen there is elite head out there I'd say that the average woman it's not giving prime level head but every pussy's wet well maybe not but you could get it wet you can slobber on it a little bit pussy's just like an open wound it's a gaping hole in a woman's body yeah and that's why i hate when women are like i give head all the time and these dudes don't want to eat pussy or whatever it's like listen it's not the same no if i stuck this lighter in my mouth right now which i won't uh that would be like so i didn't dick

Licking a vagina is like a pit of mucus and fleshy tissue and babies come out of there Periods and pee but to insinuate that the lighter is just like it that's a big I'm just saying it's like it's not it's not the same How much residue could my dick really be hiding? I don't know. I don't want to know Not that much it couldn't be that bad It can be it could be bad right But you know it's like almost impossible to get AIDS from heterosexual vaginal sex. Yeah, you told me that. Is that really true?

I heard that from a lot of people from even the guys in Romania were all saying that, yeah. That like AIDS is a gay thing. It mostly is. They try not to talk about that because it's considered homophobic to acknowledge that reality. Yeah, did I? Please don't clip that. No, it's fine.

Okay. I'm not scared to get canceled. No? You aren't either, are you? It's already done. But I mean further. What are they going to take? Like, okay, let's say tomorrow you wake up and on Twitter, number one search term, Sneako, number one on trending.

And it's like, all hate. Are you having a bad day or are you just like, hell yeah? Depends on what about? Because that's happened to me when I made fun of Muslims, it got pretty bad to that level. That was, and then my family's calling me, friends are saying, like, then it's getting bad. But if it's like a bunch of people on, it really depends on what it is. If it's a bunch of woke people just saying, fuck Sniko, he's an asshole. For what reason?

Because there's always a reason with social media. I mean, like, let's say they clip, because that can be weird to get canceled for something that you like. Like, I've had, like, I said something that I thought was pretty fucking funny. And then somebody just, like, put the clip up with me saying it. And they're, like, canceling me for it. And I'm like, that shit was funny. Yeah, they hate you on Twitter.

You know, I'm, like, kind of hyped. Like, this shit was funny. Like, you guys are calling more attention to it. I'm sorry. Well, they said, like, this guy's pushing 40 when you tweeted, I can't think about Meg the Stallion's babies fighting over. But that's a weird one that's super. super consistent with me is if I say anything about like rap or anything with youth culture

or anything pushing 40 somebody like somebody literally quote tweeted the thing where I said something about how I was obsessed with the mental image of toy lanes and the baby's sperm duking it out in Meg the Stallion's reproductive tract and somebody quote tweeted it and just put a screenshot of my name on Google with 38 years old and they got like 40,000 likes. Yeah, that popped off. That's a weird feeling to realize that many people are hyped on somebody dunking on you. That's Twitter. But I mean, of all the things, of all the things I get dunked on, being kind of immature from my age is, I'm fine. That's great. You don't, you don't mind that. No. I mean, people say terrible things about me. That's great. Same thing with Twitter. Someone's saying,

Adam 22 is a great podcaster. That's never going to go viral. We should try it out. It's, I mean, it's not going to worry. You don't have social media. I ban on Twitter. We can post on Rumble. No, I'm waiting for a deal. I'm not giving a free promotion. Oh, really? Yeah, you brought them up a lot. What's the other options? Truth Social?

You can deal with them. My own website or going back on YouTube. Or what's Nick Flentes' website? Cozy TV. You can join that. Yeah, but the type of people on there are very different, and I think it, we'll see. I just did interview with Mr. Girl. How was that?

Insane. Guys are weirdos. Him and Flacco were arguing so crazy. Flacco just called him like a rapist and a pedophile and, like, Like jokingly or for real? No, for real. Because that guy gave me peddle. I didn't even know that people called him that.

I got one call with him like, this guy, I don't know. I didn't really feel like by the end of it that I got to the bottom of where he stands on that. So why did he get called to pedo? Well, I guess part of it was that he said that the girls and cuties were hot. Oh. He's talking about like 10 and 11-year-olds. And I was just like. He said that on the podcast?

I guess he had said that previously. And Flacco called him out for that. Flacco was just such an asshole in it that it was almost like no matter what Mr. Girl was saying. Flacco still looked like a dick. But and then I was like, I wouldn't say they're hot no matter how they were dressed up or whatever because I'm not attracted to them. And he goes, well, what if a male stripper who was in great shape walked in, you'd be able

to say he's hot, right? And I'm like, what? Okay. Like you could say he's hot because you understand that the average woman would find him hot. But that was the analogy he made? I mean, yeah. I mean, he kind of. I mean, it was just so weird.

I'm like, why would you say this? Like, why would anybody subject themselves? It's trying really hard to defend being attracted to 10-year-olds. But I just don't feel like throughout the conversation that I figured out what he actually thinks about that. Maybe he's a guy that just like saying crazy things, crazy takes. I thought you don't like him, right? Don't you know about him? I talked to him one time on a panel.

Right. Oh, because. On Desi's pay, you gave me ped about. Actually, it's funny, we argued about that movie because I defended it. I think it was pointing out exactly the opposite of what Mr. Girls talking about. Now I'm remembering that I figured out from that panel. A word. And then I watched him do the white grievance panel where he basically said that it's fucked up,

that white people are the only group of people that aren't able to be proud of being white or whatever. Yeah, that's true. So you like the kind of White Lives Matter merch? I love it. You'd rock it? I want to buy it. You love this reactionary shit.

You like anybody who's just doing some edgy shit. It's not edgy. You are the one with the Satan and the go-head talking about edgy shit. Fair. First off. Okay. But if you want to compare your political views to the way that you're that I view religion where I'm just making a joke out of it,

that's probably not a good thing in your favor. No, but I don't think I just align with things that are edgy, stuff that I actually believe. I think that Black Lives Matter, which was a bunch of brainwashing bullshit. It was a bunch of sheet mentality, just people getting riled up over nothing. And then for someone to call it out,

especially Candace Owens and Kanye, two black people, I'm really happy about. And it's really interesting. Kanye is going down the same pipeline that me and Fuentes are going down, talking about bots and Red Pill and about, who owns the banks and about who controls media stuff like he's been talking about all the same things and then you see what happened Kanye just got banned

from Chase Bank. Bro, that's a wild shit. Just like Fuentes, man. The fact that they can do that is scary. Flacco's been trying to line them up. I'm shook. I don't really want to sit with this guy but Flacos dying to talk to him. Why don't you want to sit with him? Because he's like a Nazi, right?

No. He's a white nationalist. He's not a Nazi. Yeah, even just that is a little problematic for me. What does that even mean? I mean, I'm bringing him into an office full of black people. But he's not right. He's a white nationalist. He's just proud of being white. You can be black and proud.

Why can't you be white and proud? I just worry that the messaging might be a little tough for me to make sure I get that across to everybody in the office. That yes, I'm bringing a white nationalist in for an interview, but I don't even know if he's just talking. I don't know. Like recently, I watch a lot of his content. He doesn't really lead with that anymore. It's mostly just about America first. Yeah.

He's talking about Israel. He's talking about China. He really cares about. America. But that's kind of part of the problem, right? He cares about America? Well, no, that I'll be like normalizing him or letting him come in and sort of give like a platform.

A clean version of his platform when the reality of what he's into might be a little bit darker. I think he's a good guy. He's a man of God. He's a very proud Catholic. Part of me wants to interview him just because it would be exciting. It would be interesting. Yeah.

A lot of people would tune into him that. I haven't heard about him before. I think a lot of it is just an image that people paint of somebody who's completely against the agenda. Why are his fans called the Groypers? Some 4chan shit. I was Googling it. I was trying to figure out what the fucking men. I couldn't figure it out.

I think, yeah, you should have something. You should have them on. Right. It's good to have different people. Right. Especially someone like him. I always believe that if you're really canceled it, if you're really censored to that level, he's debanked.

He's on a no-fly list, ban off every social media platform. Even on Rumble, I think he's banned. And Getter. Even the alternative sites are like, this guy's too much. Why did they ban him off Rumble? Because I think when you start telling the truth, it just doesn't fit in with what they're trying to push. Even Rumble? Yeah.

Even these alt tech sites are banning him. I wish I could know why. I'm not saying that I don't know if he's banned on Rumble, but I know that he is not a fan. And I'm guessing that even Rumble is like, we don't want you on this platform because then money corrupts. And you've got to see where the money goes. The money is pushing against anything of that nature. I think that if you're censored, you must be saying something right. I align with all those people.

Kanye getting banned from Chase Bank, getting banned from Instagram or Twitter, Trump getting banned off of every social media platform, Milo. These people that I thought were bad at first. Even Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, Jordan Peterson. So you think the Klan is right? Or like ISIS? No.

I mean, they're getting banned off social media too, right? I'm talking about specific people. The Taliban still has a Twitter account. Right. But I think there's... I'm talking about individuals who have a voice who speak up. They're limited than what they're allowed to say on there. Who?

I think you need to like break terms of service realistically. So you could be like a Klansman or a Taliban guy with Twitter. You just aren't allowed to say death to the Jews or whatever. Right. Or go to this meeting. My point is I'm not allowed to say that. I think these canceled individuals, terrorist groups you cannot put in the same category. But every single canceled dude or person, even, they usually have a, they're speaking a level of truth that they're trying to hide.

It's bigger than just problematic or platforming the problem. You know, it's bigger than that. I think that people are just inclined to not believe in what's real. So you don't think that these girls that you're getting random dome from. You don't think that they're stealing something from you. You're talking about protecting your energy, but you're letting random thoughts slurp you up. I am trying to be better. I'm trying to be better.

We're not perfect at them. We all sin. We all sin. Yeah. Ideally, you wouldn't need that. Yeah. You're just still looking for the right one? and until then you're just getting slurped up?

I think you can do both. Right. I think you can multitask. That's the battle for anyone. For mostly men, not really women. Well, but you know,

you need to be finding the person that you want to settle down with without getting lost in the fun and the excitement and the craziness of just being on the hunt.

So that's been my thing that I've said. And it's probably because I don't watch enough for the content, but I feel like a lot of people in the Manosphere talk about girls, but they don't talk enough about how to actually find a girl and settle down and have a consistent thing.

No, they don't. Patrice talked a lot about it, and Patrice was like the godfather, the right pill space. A lot of his content was figuring out how to manage that and also keep his girlfriend around, which that's the most difficult part. But these guys, I hang out with all of them. They're not looking for that at all. These guys are like, I'm going to find that feeling of love, that belonging from a group of friends from a brotherhood being around like your actual brother that is a better connection

and protects your emotions and lets you lead and keep your frame and your masculine energy all the time without ever slipping up when you start falling down that pipeline of like settling down falling in love finding the right one booby bear and giving her a hug that's when you start losing your man essence that got you successful in the first place that's not necessarily true like all the most successful men in the world have wives right yeah I mean, I mean, kind of got divorced. Yeah, that's like one lunatic celebrity. Bezos was divorced a couple times.

Elon Musk was divorced many times. It's like, it's the right one until it's the next one. Right. But I mean, just because some relationships go bad at some point, I mean, there's a reason why people are attracted to the idea of being in a long-term monogamous or at least committed in some way relationship. Yeah. And if you could find that comfort outside while still fucking bitches and doing what you want to do, then isn't that ideal? like if you can find that comfort outside of a relationship isn't that safer for your business if you treat yourself like a business and you prioritize your time your time is better spent not

ever being vulnerable if you can sacrifice that vulnerability and just have that comfort with your friends or people that aren't going to run away and get emotional then you're going to be more successful but it sounds like you're advocating for guys sort of cobbling together like a sense of connection through having really close friendships with your friends and then getting the like the romantic part through just random sex. And I think from my experience in the long run, it's just not worth it. That just being in a committed relationship, once you find somebody you actually like being with, it allows you to be way more focused.

Because when you're juggling a bunch of different girls that you're talking to, it's super hard to focus on whatever you're trying to accomplish. Never mind the process of going out and trying to meet more girls. Holy fuck It's such a time-consuming affair And then to think that even like one date with a girl You might be spending like six hours going out with her Or some shit eight hours, whatever

I mean, it's just super bad for your productivity And A relationship could be a big detractive of your time too You know that Yeah if you let it be But a good relationship Allows for each person to be better than they would be on their own What was the last fight you had?

Honestly We got in a full fight oh we got enough fight because i was like waking up and she threw the kid onto me while i was sleeping and in some way the kid collided with my testicles and it was a really really painful way to wake up how did you fight how long did it last uh i just kind of like yelled at her for like 30 seconds and then that was sort of it didn't she yelled back and yeah a little bit we just we've like fought we've like gotten good at fighting so we just kind of like a lot let it out and then we sort of move on quickly

you need that release you need to yell call her a bitch or whatever you do well dude I was waking up and I just got hitting the nuts and she's just like what did you say do you remember I was like what the fuck is wrong with you see I'm really gonna have to get control of that once the kid can control

like once the kid can understand more I'm gonna have to stop saying stuff like what the fuck is wrong with you because then the kid's gonna know what I'm saying but that's not a fight so you're fine well what What's a fight? How's to go for like days? I've had some bad ones.

Got some bad ones. Really? Yeah, that I don't consider a fight. That's just like a little bicker. You have to beat each other? No. Well, no. No, I've never beat a woman.

No. I've had really dramatic like TV show soap opera. Oh yeah. Fights. That's the one thing that's great about my girl is that she's just very low temperature. So it's like if I was to get heated, she's good at just sort of bringing the heat level down. What about when she's on her period?

She can get a little bit more unreasonable, yeah. But never a crazy level doing it. She's never done crazy shit. Not like real psycho shit. She'll like demand more attention. I feel like kind of get mad to me with some random shit that doesn't make that much sense. How long did it get to that level of comfortability?

You've been with her for a long time, right? Six years. Yeah, how long did it take to get to the level of the year now? Kind of changed a lot over time. It's been a weird It's been a rocky ride Not that rocky though How many times have you broken up?

Really none Really? No Wow Like we got into it So the point that we were like Kind of discussing Breaking up

But never really To the point of like Actually doing it Never been ghosted Or you never ghosted Uh Nah Not really

For six years That would be wild huh Just like take off for a few days Yeah that's never happened Peace Go to Vegas Fuck that. Gotta be panicking.

God, she would be so bummed. Oh, if you took off to Vegas? I was thinking about her. No, she didn't take it off. You've never done to show that. No, no, no. You've been together six years.

The kids knew. Right. By the way. But if I were to be like, I'm mad at you, so I'm going to go to Vegas and do coke and fuck hookers. Yeah. And ignore your text.

Oh, my God. I don't know if the relationship could really survive that. How much have you changed since fatherhood? These guys always tell me when they, have their first kid that they suppress that urge and stuff like that. But you kind of embrace the fact that most people would consider you immature. I would say like most normies, even though you do what you want, you live a dope life. I'm kind of like immature in my interests.

But in terms of like how I run the business and shit, I would think that I'm pretty mature. In terms of being a dad, it just made it change. It makes you take everything in your life a lot more seriously. And so that's why for me particularly now, the idea of spending. My time chasing pussy is given that I have a kid, it's just no chance. It's just I can't justify spending my time on that kind of thing. What was it like getting comfortable doing plug talk and doing porn? I'm a natural.

I mean, I remember I had this one weekend in Vegas, right? And there's this girl hitting me up. And this is before No Jumping Everything. This one's still like a BMX guy. I'm in Vegas for this BMX awards night. show thing and um this girl's hitting me up and i don't want to fuck her right because she's kind of ugly and she shows up at the award show with her friend who's hot as fuck and they're both like all over me and i realized pretty quickly that they want to fuck me together and at one point

somehow the the hot girl starts making out with me and the other girl drops to her knees and starts sucking my dick in the middle of this fucking award show like party type vibe and uh I just like look over and I just realize that like 50 fucking people are like staring like can I believe what's happening and I did not mind. You didn't flinch at all. No, it didn't bother me at all. And then we went, we left, go to the hotel room. I'm fucking the shit out of them and I'm posting it on Snapchat, but like not the actual sex, but like everything else. And I'm and people are like hitting me up left and right about it.

And I really, I didn't mind that attention at all. And, yeah, I don't know. I always felt like I kind of gravitated towards it. And it wasn't until I met my girl that I kind of started to realize that I really didn't mind filming and shit. I think it's been great for me. Tell me more about it. Why do you think it's, it's been great? Because I like doing it.

We bet good buddy doing it. It's almost weird going in there just knowing like, oh, I got to fuck three times today. And that's like, a lot of it. lot of work. That's like me being very productive. That's like me getting way ahead on the calendar. Like that would be the same as me coming in here and doing like eight meetings back to back or doing like five interviews back to back. A real hard day at work. But then also I have to fuck three times. This is like such a weird feeling. You should try it. Start doing porn. No. Your fans would love it. I'm good, bro. It's just because you backed yourself into this

whole of like having to pretend that you're anti-born. I'm really. I really believe in that. You think I'm grifting? I just think you're jerking off. I'm really not. Same as all of us. I don't watch porn. I might be my meet once in a while, but I'm really not.

I'm in tune with the vast majority of people, and most people who just couldn't live that life and couldn't do that, I think it's just better to not promote that. And it just lowers your vibration. What the fuck does that mean? I'm vibrating, bro. I'm jiggling. Would you ever create like some great movie? or a great album or create great art. I want to create great art.

And for me to get there, like I need to be so clear mentally and be thinking about the right things and protect my energy, I can't do it without being free of that. You know, sometimes I think maybe I should try new things. Like instead of doing the same thing.

The same thing. A million podcasts. For years. You've been doing this for a long time. For years. Griding out. Content, quantity. That maybe I should take some time and do it.

documentary. Yeah. Maybe I should get into music. Maybe I should start making beats. Maybe I should start... You've talked to so many artists. Being in the stew until two in the morning every night. You can make a studio here easily.

We kind of have one. I don't know. You have a studio. Yeah, we have a studio. I want to make music eventually. I don't know. I feel like I'm good at this. Stay focused on this.

This is the future. Content? Yeah, but it's not... How much of this is about money and how much of it is about inspiring? Like, when you did that show in New York, How much of that do you like the crowd interaction or what do you think about the ticket sales all the time? I mean honestly talking about podcasting though, it's kind of like the plug talk thing where it's like it feels really good. I like doing it.

I'm having a good time. I like doing this. I would realistically do this for free. You know? Podcasting? Yeah. Like if they said like Adam, you're on the blacklist for some reason. Can't make any money from putting shit on YouTube or whatever.

I would still want to do it. even if I had a fucking day job. I always want to keep elevating what I do. I started YouTube doing Call of Duty commentaries and then upgraded to a webcam and then got rid of the gameplay and then got a cameraman, started doing street interviews,

started editing more, started taking cinematic shots, getting better cameras, and then I got really good at speaking so I started live streaming and every single live stream got better from there. I'm the type of person

that I constantly need to evolve and grow and I consider this an art form. That's why I got into YouTube because I thought it was like freedom of expression. And you were like, and I did academics podcast yesterday, you both in Keemstar, Vlad, these people, they find a formula of like how to generate content. And then you stay in it. And then that becomes it. But I, just because your bank account is improving or your views are improving doesn't mean that you're improving.

And I would like to get to the level and utilize the internet and the powers that we have with social media. You have an entire studio here. All these different rooms. You have all these employees. You can create a great movie if you wanted to. You can create a TV show, something that's different. but I don't want to get caught it's like if I started doing porn

or I started promoting like I've gotten gambling deals for really high like 30 bands and especially now that I've been banned it's like you know I'm not getting no ad sense 30 bands to do some gambling shit but I would rather not get used to that type of like easy money

because I want to keep elevating myself and also the videos I do I don't think you should do porn no I'm being facetious but well I don't think you should do porn you wouldn't recommend that to people Well, I mean, if you want it to, you should. I wouldn't say you should, like, do it even though you don't want it.

Yeah. Like, I remember I used to, I used to be a model, and that shit sucks. Really? It's the worst. You stand there, you're an object. That's the first time I felt like a woman. I would hate it. Yeah.

It's the worst. When I would, like, think about what that would be like, oh, I mean, you're just, just like a coat hanger, just stand there and they're just putting shit on you. You're a pretty mannequin with makeup on. God. That's why like me and my girl have had that conversation about like I said to her the other day I go what if somebody came up to you and told you that they would give us a million dollars a year for our kid to be a fucking child model?

No. And we were just like no because it's like even just getting her into that mind frame of just like what you look like being your value to the world seems like such a dangerous thing to put into a kid's head. When are you going to be like I have enough money? You probably have like at least 10 mil to save. No? No comment.

But more, he laughed at that. It's not about money though. I don't really care about money like that. So you're saying like this is the future of consecration, this long form content that you could repurpose on different platforms. There's a lot of money in it. Right.

When would you decide like, oh, I have enough money. Now let me create something different. I also just feel like it's the future in the sense that, yeah, we're making more money off it but it just keeps becoming more and more of a viable opportunity and option in comparison to like Netflix or all these other you know people are just gravitating towards this content in a way that nobody wants Netflix sucks besides TV is over it's over so people when people talk to me about the future of no jumper and they basically are like oh you could do a documentary you could

have you could sell something to HBO or whatever it's like why would the why would the that be a good thing for me to make content that I then don't own It's like yeah, maybe you're doing one thing to get your name out there doing like a big High production thing I could see the value in that but I would way rather do shit Organically and own my own shit for the most part You have no artist in you you have no do you consider yourself an artist? I think these conversations are my art if anything Why don't you want to make music? Because I have no impulse to create music and

and I've never created music, and I just don't really, it just doesn't really appeal to me. It does, though. You have a podcast interviewing musicians all the time. Yeah, I'm, like, interested in music, but I'm not, like, dying to make music. I got to watch UFC.

I don't want to fucking be a UFC fighter. What was your dream job when you were a kid? Was it BMX? I never really thought of BMX like that. I don't know. I didn't really think about life that. clearly when I was a kid. I wasn't to like crime way before I actually started making money doing something legitimate.

I'm doing credit card shit and stealing and all that. When I think about it now, that's how I should have been thinking about life. It's like, okay, what am I going to do to either start a business myself or get hired by a company doing something that I think is cool? I don't really remember that crossing my mind when I was in high school. You never had an existential crisis early on? I feel like my whole youth was like an existential crisis. What the fuck am I going to do? Because my parents like made me have a job from like 12 on.

Like when I was 12, I was waking up at 4 in the morning to deliver newspapers to like, you know, 100 fucking houses or whatever. You're dragging around this bag. It's the biggest thing you've ever fucking seen walking around him 12 at 4 in the morning thinking I got to figure something out. I got to figure out how the fuck this is not going to be my life. and then I'm working at the grocery store and I'm just standing there for eight hours just thinking like I hate this

I need to figure something out no matter what the fuck it is I cannot just work a fucking job like but it's not like I thought of that and then I was like oh I'm going to go to college I'm going to get an education so I can have like a cool job no I was just like I can't work I can't do this

it's not for me if being an influencer or a YouTuber or whatever if that exists at that time that's 1,000% the direction that I would have been going on it what is your drawing to this why do you seek out concentration I just like well doing interviews specifically I just like talking to people and like seeing where these things go but then even if I couldn't do interviews I would still probably want to like stream or make videos of me talking about stuff doing essay type stuff something like that just because I just love the feeling of like making something and

and people watching it and then getting that feedback. Do you think all these people are attention seekers that do this? That there's like an absence of attention that they didn't receive as a kid. So they seek out online. Maybe some of them, but not like uniformly. What separates content creators from Normies? What happened? You're just banging me over the head with question after question.

This motherfucker just changed the tone of this fucking interview. What was that one? What separates content creators from Normies? well these days a lot of the normies are trying to be content creators too you know what the thing is is that if you want to be a content creator you gotta be kind of like well you don't have to be but it helps to be kind of unhinged

you have to be like until you get bound not 100% there until you get banned well until they get banned but like when I look at speed who please speed do the interview bro I want to interview speed so bad it would be the best but I mean the fact that he seems like he could just go off the rails at any minute that's like a huge part of his appeal it worked for me same thing with you yeah you never know

what you're going to say yeah it's never boring yeah that goes a long way with these these viewers anyway what else are we supposed to talk about here I don't know you're getting mad of me interviewing you no I was just calling attention to the fact that that had just happened yeah weren't even aware of it for a while i got like 12 in a row are you high uh a little bit yeah how's that feel i'd smoke for like nine years straight really i'm used to it yeah so it's taking you back to your old self nah i don't think i'm gonna smoke that much i'm taking baby ass elon musk joe rogan hits really yeah see my weird thing right now is that my girl's gone for three weeks with the kid where she she went to france and italy she's looking at wedding venues like oh shit just traveling

she brought her assistant with her oh shit so she's off living her fucking independent life she basically said she's not having another baby until she like gets some traveling out of the way you know and we traveled a bunch of the summer and stuff but she wants to like do like a longer she wanted to really go around europe you know so i'm over here fucking bachelor life while she's gone no kid in the house so why why is that got you worried i'm not worried it's just weird just a freaky All of a sudden, I'm just like, I'm not the same dude I'm used to being. You seem the same. Do I?

Yeah. I mean, I feel fine. But it's a little tricky. You know, like. I don't. All of a sudden, my life is so much more normal. Like, I'm sitting there eating breakfast, and I'm used to, like, the dog running around, the kid freaking out doing something. My girl's there, the fucking, whatever.

And I'm just alone. Everything is just. still. It's kind of overwhelming. Are you allowed to bring other girls? No. Invite a friend over. Just have some girl come over?

Or a guy, I don't know. Or a guy. Hang out with your, hang out with your boy, play some video games, this shit. Yeah, like, just have the homie come over. I know. I don't do that, though. I don't have my friends come over to just kick it. And sit in the silence, watch a Jeffrey Dahmer.

I got out of that habit a long time ago. thinking about that i was thinking like the dudes i do the podcast with t rle and ad and shit i was thinking like what if they lived like next door would they just come over and hang out and why is why is it them being next door the thing that makes that normal and them driving 15 minutes to hang out seems weird we don't we make no effort to do that how did you feel when patrick cc made that video about you that made you feel like you made it all of a sudden I got a big documentary out was that like a big one

was it a big documentary you consider or was that like a big thing because for me I feel like I maybe didn't know about you till then yeah did you think I wasn't saying no I watched it and I was like it doesn't seem that's that crazy to me yeah no it was it was just it was alarming to be like in the middle of all this hype

and then have a video like talking about the experience while it was happening. Right. And I'm talking about this as if it's past tense, I guess it is because I'm banned, but this was like last month,

two months ago. It doesn't feel like that long ago. Right. I never feel like I made it. I never feel a level of satisfaction. I was just hanging out with a bunch of YouTubers today.

And they kept saying, like, we walk back a concert, like, yo, go walking from them and see if they recognize you or like, oh my God, I don't want to like, they're really interested in how,

in the level of fame. But that's never been my metric of satisfaction. So, like, that documentary was like, okay, this is the next step. But I'm never satisfied. I just want to keep going. I hate when people do that. Say what I say?

No, when people fucking just draw way too much attention to the fact that people recognize you in public and shit. I feel like I've been doing it too long. That, like, the novelty of like, oh, my God, everybody's talking to me. Everybody wants to take a picture of me. It wears off. Once you get to a certain level, you got to just like, Take the photo. What about Maine?

How you doing? Keep it moving. I know so many, yeah, I do. I know a bunch of people. Just like make too much of a thing out of it. It's fucking weird. No, they don't make a thing out of it. But yeah, they do.

They make a thing out of it. It's like, okay, bro. I'd rather just move on. It was cool at first, but. Because it's like realistically, taking the photo takes like 30 seconds. But if you're going to then, like, act like it's such a big deal and, like,

talk about it afterwards and stuff. it occupies way more time in your life if you like because i just know too many people are just like enthralled with the idea of being recognized they're having people who knows them you know you got big dreams man i don't think this shit is the end like that documentary or just the level of fame or whatever now it's like that's not i'm just getting started right so the band didn't make you feel like oh fuck it's going to be hard to grow from here it's going to be hard of course it's going to be hard but i like a challenge and i i got it i want to make like a dope movie i want to make like the new taxi driver.

I want to make a movie that, like, affects pop culture and the minds of people that can inspire people. I want to start music. I want to do everything. Got big dreams. When do you think you're a hot, dude? I'm odd. You're high.

I'm a hot. You're high. No, I'm a high to me, man. I started smoking because he was high, right? Hell no, I am. Came at here, high. You're high. You're high, bro.

No, I don't know. What were you about to say? Why do people Why do most people give up on their dreams, Adam? Why do most people give up on their dreams? Well, most people give up on their dreams because their dreams are not realistic or attainable. I mean, you know, like people

when you're in first grade, second grade, third grade, whatever, like you want to be in the NBA. Realistically, there's like only a couple hundred people are in the NBA at any given time. Even the best person in your school might not make it into the league. So that's a dream that at some point Everybody has to pretty much give up on

And same thing for any competitive sport There's only going to be a few greats You know There's really, you know, a lot of people have dreams To be a famous singer I mean how many fucking singers really are You know What do you think you'd be doing if you didn't make it?

Probably Only fans I think about that sometimes Because I did the BMX site I was like toiling away Like not really making it much money and just kind of having this little rinky dink business for like 10 years the bmx website and it was cool and like we did dope shit made dope videos and like had like this really popping website for all those years but i was not really like making a ton of money i was kind of just like treading

water you know and then start doing this shit shit started popping off and then along the way i started Only fans, we start plug talk, whatever. But when I think about it, if I had never started No Jumper, if I had just kept grinding away, doing the BMX shit, and then OnlyFans came along, I probably would have been like, oh, fuck. I'm going to just fuck girls on Onlyfans. And I probably would have just gone in that direction realistically

because I needed the money. Would have just been like a full-time porn star guy? I think. But who knows? And you'd be happy doing that? I mean, I would have been happy in the sense that I would have been doing something that was fun and that I liked doing and I would have been making a lot more money and it would have allowed me to probably keep doing the BMX shit. Do you think that thinking like Satan's cool in the absence of God lets you be okay with a lot of these things? I mean, what the fuck are you talking about?

Like, I like satanic imagery, sure. but that has nothing to do with the fact that I don't think that there's anything wrong with porn religious people are very anti-porn some like real religious people are porn is very anti-God why

because it's separating God not want you to watch porn why would God care about such a thing it's separating the intimate act between two people and monetizing it isn't yeah that's exactly what it is I mean there's a demand for it

it's going to exist either way because there's a demand for it. Don't you think? That's true. But I'm saying like, is the reason that you don't believe in God is that why you go about these things? And it doesn't

matter at all. It doesn't have an effect. Like, I would feel a level of guilt and shame if I'm putting myself in your shoes. If I was doing it, I would be like, fuck, man. Like, I could have been that director that I wanted to be. You seem to have an infatuation with movies. I don't really give a fuck about movies.

I hate movies. I never watch movies. I don't really think there's anything that admirable about being like a director compared to being a YouTuber or doing porn or whatever else. I don't really. I mean, yeah, some people would definitely, definitely a lot of people in society would look at like a movie director or a successful movie director as like an extremely admirable person. Sure. Myself personally, I don't look down on porn stars. I wouldn't really think of that as. No, it's not about looking down, but the people that have most impacted my life,

have been artists. People like Kaye, people like Martin Scorsese, these people like straight up artists I consider as like role models and have changed the course of my life. And I want to have that impact on other people. I'm wondering, is that like how much of this podcast is based in that and how much of it is just straight up entertainment?

I mean, I think we can do both. We're going to have like in-depth, personal, intimate, revealing conversations. I've had conversations on here that made me want to cry, that made me tear up. and then I've had conversations that were purely goofy shit clowning on people whatever so I mean I would say it ranges it's the whole range of humanity of everything we do on here we do it all I wouldn't really what's your favorite album my favorite album I think it's very telling I mean I could go on a million different records it was like 15 rappers that pop into my head and then even picking one album from them is hard And that's one genre. Oh, give me a couple.

I want to see, like, where your actual music taste is. Well, Ilmatic is a consistent thing throughout my life. I like the Beatles, Sargent Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club band. My parents always played that when I was a kid, and I still go back to it all the time. So that's two. Those are both great. The blueprint. Those are great.

It was a legendary one to me. I don't know. I mean, what the fuck am I supposed to say? I don't know. Why do you think you picked those? How have they impacted you? If I would answer that, it would be the same. I would tell you how it's impacted my life. I'm curious about why you're gravitated towards that music.

Just great art, great depictions of humanity. I don't know. They're all very diverse and far-reaching, and they all affected me in different ways. And even individual songs are compelling to me in a variety of different ways off all those different projects. What the fuck are we talking about? they want to hear us talk about beef.

What did you talk about with academics? The same shit. Mostly about we got into conspiracies. I talked about the same thing with him too. I talk about this lot of content creators like to see what their motivations are. Well, you don't get to scold him for doing porn. I'm not sculling.

Do you feel under attack right now? No, I don't care. No, I'm not scolding him. I talked about how he stirs up drama. And it's the same thing. He's been doing the same thing for a lot of years. And my motivations, different. It's not scolding. I'm realizing

the differences about why people go into this. And he was talking a lot of similar things about how there's more money and what he does. There's more longevity. And talking about what I talk about. Social media and big tech has made it clear that it's not okay to talk about that. That's not what they want to hear. They don't want like uplifting

motivational. They don't want content that makes people think in a different way. Entertainment's supposed to be sedative. It's supposed to be relaxing. It's supposed to turn your brain off to a certain extent. And when there's something that's like amping people up or inspiring people, it's like they need to shut it down. And so academics

was telling me that, do you acknowledge that you're going to have a harder time making money and you're going to have a harder time in your career? And I was telling him that that's just not why I got into this. Yeah, you got to follow your heart. Well, but do you feel like you followed your heart or do you feel like you got radicalized by the viewers

wanting you to talk about more and more extreme shit? You ever think about that? No. It wasn't viewers, that's always been my inclination to, everything that I've, that I talk about is stuff that I've been interested in since I was very young. Okay. Conspiracies, I'm really into seeking out what actually is true and what's not. And also thinking in a different way and challenging beliefs.

I like, I like arguing the fact that you think that, like, I'm disagreeing with you, what do you say about porn? Scolding. Yeah. I like that. I like going back. I like mental challenge. Because I don't want to just have a conversation that that doesn't elevate me in some sense.

Where are you at with Destiny? Are you not a tag team duo anymore? Are you not a tag team duo anymore? What's you mean? Like streaming? Yeah. Yeah, he just texted me. He wants to go get dinner.

I want to... He's out here? No, he's in Miami. Oh. I want to continue talking to him. Because, like, we disagree on so much that it makes me think of a different way. And I think it makes him thinking a different way, too. Something with Gi-Dion or anybody that I've talked to on stream.

And I want to keep seeking that out. I want to keep talking to every different type of person. And just the problem is that most leftist and woke people have no capabilities to talk to somebody that disagrees with them. They get surprised when they see me disagree with somebody on a stream. They're like, how is this possible? And people in the comments are like, look, there's an example of how different political parties can actually agree and hang out. It's like, this is just regular for me. I like hanging out with you.

I like talking to you because you think extremely different than me. I've seen this as conversation. About a few things. Mostly porn, right? Even porn and the motivations for everything and what we're interested in and what we like to see. seek out the acceptance of the world is very different and I like having that back and forth and I picked up on that right away because I you should start a gay version of plug-tuck no what you and a dude sorry maybe I am I but yeah sneko how's that Celsius treat you

was good I think it made me pre-combe it's why I think I was drinking it for a while and I think it was making me pre-cone. And I googled it and I found some information about how energy drinks lower your sperm concentration. So I think it's a possibility. I think, yeah, maybe. But I still served it to you willingly. I don't know why there was like a six-pack of it in the fridge. Thank you. It was good. When I was drinking it, I liked it a lot. But I'm not trying to mess with my sperm. So I'm going to keep going with that conspiracy theory. You already have a kid. Yeah, but I'm trying to make more. How many want?

I'm trying not to get any of these other girls pregnant in the meantime. How many? Two? Three? I don't know. You're pro-choice, right? Yeah. Yeah.

Kill them all. Metallica. Not them all. But if a girl wants to get rid of it, I think she should get rid of it. Yeah, we disagree on a lot, Adam. Yeah. You don't like that? I mean, I can't get mad at somebody's belief, but...

I'm very pro-life. Well. We disagree on a lot. I highly doubt we're going to change each other's minds on that. Definitely not. But I think I say that. I like the idea of that until like imagine I get a treat's pregnant. Like imagine if I was doing some one of those like.

Well, that's like every Republican politician. Oh yeah. Yeah. For 100% to get the wrong girl pregnant. Just did that. Yeah. It's the whole thing. The old classic.

But I mean, in their defense, you could want something to be illegal but then partaking it, right? I mean, does it make you a hypocrite? Sure, I guess, but I mean, if you want porn to be banned, but you watch porn in the meantime just because it's out there. I don't watch porn, man. You really try to get me on that. I bet I's don't watch porn.

You can look through my searcher, I swear to God, I don't. So if I introduce you, if there's just as a girl out here to some random hotties, She's the hottest chick you ever seen in your life. And I know you're probably being honest about this. And you know this chick is not out there. But if she was out there and you saw her and you knew you could watch eight guys fuck her with elephant trunks for dicks. You're turning that down? I want to see that.

I'm going to. I don't know. I'm good. Why would I know? I want to say that. It's extreme. What the fuck does the elephant trunk? Don't do the devil horns with that.

Extreme. You see the parallels? No, but like, I don't understand that what's the appeal? Why do you want to see eight dicks and a girl? I mean, okay, if you're not into that, one, I want to see her get fucked. If she was standing, if she was fucking right here, it would be the only thing we were able to talk about, right? Yeah, 100%. But it's, so I know it exists online, a few clicks away.

I'm going to look at it in my phone right now. I got to see it. Here's an analogy that I've never made before, but it's kind of like the fact that we both like, murder music, right? We like drill music. And part of it is the fact that you get the adrenaline rush feeling of what it's like to be on a drive-by shooting in the middle of night with your homies and you're getting revenge on something. Like the adrenaline rush is probably extremely high and something that most people never experience. Maybe that's why all these women are drawn to murder documentaries because we kind of seek out that excitement, even though the lifestyle might be bad, we choose

a more normal life and then we can exercise it through things like porn instead or murder documentaries or murder music. But instead, even though that might give you a great adrenaline rush, being on a drive-by shooting, we know that it's better for you to not do it and it's better for the world to not do it, so you don't do it. So just because everything is out there and available

and you can do, you need to set limitations for yourself. And even me, like you brought it up earlier, like me getting ahead from random thoughts and shit like that. Ideally, you don't do that. You're right. Everybody's a hypocrite to some extent, but we also, in my opinion,

I like to acknowledge what's good. and what's bad for most people. Right, but like, just because I, like, I, I, I, I listen to King Vaughn, and I think that King Vaughn, Demon, Demon, King Vaughn should not have killed all those people. He's a serial killer, straight up demon. But I could still listen to him, even though I think that this music realistically shouldn't exist. You know? It's not about should it or should it not exist.

It's just like we... The world would be a better place if King Vaughn didn't make all this murder music that I enjoy. Yeah, you need to decide. Maybe all of it is synced together. Maybe the murder music is lowering your vibration and then you become comfortable with porn. But I want to watch chick get fucked by eight guys for the same reason that I like listening to King Blah.

Yeah, it's the same thing. Yeah. It's the same thing. Yeah. It's bad shit. Nah, it's great, though. It's great art. Just because it feels good.

So the analogy is like, I bet that killing an enemy feels good. Right. But, nah, you just, you shouldn't do it. Why? It's better to not do it. But if you're in the gang world, you got to do it.

But it's better to not be in the gang world. That's the point. Well, I would agree with that, yeah. It's better to just uplift yourself and be better. Right. You shouldn't join a game because if you're in a gang, at some point, you're probably going to have to kill somebody. To be initiated, yeah.

To be initiated. I don't think that's initiation. No. Or whatever, to be accepted. Right. But I mean, that's realistically. I mean, there's probably plenty of gangs where you don't end up having to do that.

But a lot of gangs, that's the reality of it. And your life would be better if you don't kill somebody, so just don't join a gang. There's too many cycles of negative energy I see, and this is what I talk about in the street. I think we're meant to idolize these things so that we don't uplift our minds. Like, our minds are capable of so much.

Energy's real, and I'm sure, right, I know you talk to X, and I know you felt that when he was around. Like somebody that's constantly on a journey of trying to be their best self and reach the capabilities that your mind is, that your mind is capable. Like, there's something to that that everything in society suppresses.

Like, although when you watch porn, you're not able to reach that place mentally. If you're watching elephant trunk girls getting fucked, like your- Elephant trunk dicks, but let me tell you something about X is that there's this girl, me and my girl fucked her, and it was all on my girl's Twitter, whatever,

like me and my girl hanging out with this chick. And it was X's X. And then X hits her up from that and flies her out. And he's hanging out with her for like months after that. I say that just to say. Have you ever said that before? Yeah. I say that just to say, yes, X was a guy who was spiritually enlightened and he was on a quest for knowledge and all this shit.

But he was also having a lot of indiscriminate sex with porn stars. So, I mean, there's that. He was indulging. He was indulging in his fame. his newfound wealth yeah he's a fucking kid from florida he never had a chance to do any of this shit although actually realistically i mean

he was fucking porn stars from like before he was popular as a rapper just because he was his manager was a porn star yeah bruno oh thought you saying you no no no although that is kind of weird that i ended up being on one too so you don't think that he was as in tune into the energy no it was i'm just saying he was also fucking a lot of porn stars and having a lot of orgy and shit i guess you're right i guess that that it doesn't detract from your

mentality. A lot of the greatest artists of our time have been the most indiscriminate sex havers. The genre freaks. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. The spice of life. Sneco, what the fuck are we talking about? You're right. I like this conversation. Okay. I got a

piss, so I feel like this is over. All right. Sneco. Were we too high? We're not high enough. I'm feeling good. I think you should go back to modeling. No. don't end You took the glasses off and I'm just like Oh what a handsome man

I'm putting it back on Really? Back on What a hot guy Not right Extreme Sneak out Extreme

Anel King Vaughn Sneakow Extreme You didn't have that much to ask me I had many things to ask We talked about all kinds of shit Yeah

I was thinking about that I was interviewing you more than you were interviewing me I was thinking about that earlier like that I didn't do like the oh let's search sneko's name on YouTube and find every spicy thing I could possibly ask you about yes it's not just about drama though I like actual comics like your nose man I'm not thinking I was rubbing it yeah I didn't I didn't enter the brim a smear into the mic sneko appreciate you man yeah thanks no jumper coolest podcast in the world check us out on youtube ticot patreon and instagram like comment and subscribe nojumber dot com if you want to support only please Flug Talk.com if you want to see me bang like 40 chicks.

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