No Jumper - The Sofia Franklyn Interview: The "Call Her Daddy" Break Up, Smoking Crack & More

Episode Date: June 14, 2021

Sofia with an F came through to explain why she stayed silent during the #CallHerDaddy break up, to also talk about growing up Mormon, trying and using different dr*gs, what type of men she likes, trying to get pregnant and more! https://www.instagram.com/sofiafranklyn/ https://twitter.com/sofiafranklyn ----- CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5tesvmDS8h50LkjnSAWMOs?si=j6sJD6DkR4mk5NZZWnlK7g FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/nojumper iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/no-jumper/id1001659715?mt=2 Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFICIAL http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world, and we got Sophia with an F on the show today. Hi. How you doing? Good. How are you doing? Excellent. Yeah? Yeah.

Smoking weed, hopefully like hotboxing you in this room right now? The thing is, I feel like I'm getting hotboxed and we have about 20 minutes until I'm like, I feel high. I'm having a panic attack. Where the fuck is the emergency room? I'm just telling you right now. I want someone to just stand next to me and just smoke weed aggressively and blow it in your face and you won't be able to like really sincerely complain about it because that's just part

of his culture and if you bitch about it then you're a karen i would never i would keep my mouth shut i'm telling you that's the code of the karen these days right because there's a camera i'm gonna like calm the fuck down i'm be super nice no but if you come on no jumper and you like can't do the interview because of the fucking weed smoke then you're gonna earn the karen label and you know that so you just have to thug it out i am i mean i'm having an internal panic attack right now i'm just like not fucking saying anything. But I heard you talking about doing mushrooms on your podcast the other day. So I know that you're like at least not 100% Karen.

Karen would never do shrooms. Karen wouldn't and I wouldn't. That was actually this girl right here. Oh, she did it. Right. Okay. She did the shrooms. However, I've tried a lot of drugs.

But I can't, dude, weed. I'm telling you, I've tried a lot of shit. Weed is crazier than ketamine. It's crazier than crack, which by the way. We got to talk about that. Who sold that to? Rapper sold you that. No, no, no.

Okay. So I was like, I don't even remember how old I was. I thought we were doing Coke, okay? Easy, breezy, beautiful cocaine cover girl. And then this girl that I was doing it with, she was like, my really good friend, I trusted her. I was super naive. And she said, no, the thing is, we're going to smoke Coke tonight. And I was like, oh, like you can smoke it.

It's like the same shit. Like, all right, let's fucking do. And she's like, yeah. Like, I'm going to add some baking soda. It will be, like, a little different, but we're to smoke it. And I found out later it was crack. Right. Wow.

I should have known because crack feels a lot different than Coke. It was a totally different. But how long were you going off of this? Let me tell you something about crack. Once you do one little hit, you keep going for a while. But did you have to go outside to, like, gain more crack? Do you have to, like, visit the local crack salesman or something? that's so funny you ask that because i remember we ran out and i turned into a fiend like within an hour

i was a crack had an hour later i was like we need more how do we get more let's go it really is like that intense wow but i only did it once that's dope yeah what made you stop smoking crack in that moment like because you know there's always that temptation to just keep going and then one day like a couple days later you're just living under the bridge right right so what happened happened is we really ran out. Like her drug dealer boyfriend was like, no, for real. Like, we don't have any left. Right.

And then she handed me a new tinfoil with a dark substance on it. And she was like, this is going to relax you. And I wasn't that dumb. I was like, this is heroin. Right. Like, no question. And I knew that she had been doing it. And then when she handed me the heroin, I was like, girl, I am way too good for a

heroin after I just did crack for three hours. And that's when I stopped. Really? I'm going to draw the line at heroin, you know? Just a little walk on the wild side. Yes. That is kind of the cool thing, though, about, like, doing Coke and, like, just getting fucked up off Molly and shit, which I haven't done for years now.

But it kind of gives you, like, that little taste of what it would be like to be that guy screaming at himself under the bridge. Just gets you a little bit there on the spectrum of, you know, sometimes if you, like, if you, like, I've been in Vegas before doing coke for, like, 24 hours straight. and I really kind of like felt that like dude I could see myself just kind of going back to LA and just live in a tent a thousand percent I got a taste of it and I was like dude this feels so fucking good like I don't know I like kind of want to wake up tomorrow and fucking do it bust out 24 hours worth of work like it's a whole thing so I completely agree with you yes

so where were you at in your life that doing crack seemed like a reasonable exercise can we just let the people know I tried it by accident one time Would you say she was doing crack for a minute there? It was a one-time thing. But this is like where the like racial injustice in our sentencing sort of lies where like nobody thinks it's that big a deal to do coke, but it's because there's such a bad thing to do crack when really it's all really just the same exact thing. I I there. Yes, the racial thing completely. Yes, I've seen that.

I will say the way snorting coke and then smoking crack felt. were very different. Okay. However, what the fuck is crack? For real. I know I sound super uneducated right now, but like what is it? Because then I've heard you can smoke Coke

and it's called free basing. It's not crack. It's just when they mix it with baking soda and shit to turn it into a rock so that you can smoke it. And it like, I think is just like a more intense high. Although to be honest, it's hard to think of anything more intense

than around a line of Coke because that shit really likes a fire under your ass. Well, you're in L.A. You probably get good Coke. I don't do Coke anymore, but I also can't even like imagine why I was living that way at some point you're still in the throws of your coke phase I'm assuming no I'm not actually thank you no no I'm not I don't know I I feel like yes it there is like a line it's like okay sometimes I'll take adderals

it that different than meth you're right there's like a whole thing around it um but crack is fucking wild don't try it but yes I I would say Coke is a gateway drug to crack. 100%. I, yeah. Some girl got me to do meth one night with her when I was already drunk as fuck and she just proposed meth. And that was kind of like when I realized that she was doing meth all the time. Shut up.

So that was cool. You didn't know until then? It kind of like exposed to me like, oh, this explains so much of this weird behavior that I see from this girl. What type of behavior? Because I also was dating someone who was doing. that and like... It seemed like she was staying up late a lot. That was it?

And hanging out at metal head bars on Hollywood Boulevard. Okay, I one time was hanging out with this guy I was dating who was doing it and he like lost all control of his face. Like he like came into my room and he was like doing wild faces. Wow. From meth. But I mean, doing crack, Coke meth, like what are you actually doing? We don't know what the fuck is in whatever we're taking.

That's a fact. But this is kind of like a maturity test for. were you is like would you consider serious hardcore meth or cocaine addiction a deal breaker when scouting future mates? Yes.

Well that's good. Did I pass? I always answered that truthfully. I'm like fuck how do I pass the test? Yes, that would be a deal breaker. I feel that too for sure. If my girl just started like smoking meth I would definitely be like this is this has to change. Okay, meth

is a deal breaker. What about like Coke. What if she's like, I do Coke, like, here and there. Yeah. Well, I mean, here and there, there's always a conversation about doing a drug recreationally, I think, you know, if you go to the club and you drink and do coke once in a while, that's, you know, it is what it is. But if

it was like, that's like just how you start the day, I would have concerns about that, for sure. What if she's like, I just, every once in a blue moon, I want to do meth with, you know, my dad because that's like what we do. That's how we bond. Meth once a year. Who am I to judge their culture, you know? Because

I know people from the Northwest where, like, they told me straight up, like, my parents both smoke meth hold down jobs and have been doing it for the whole fucking time I've been alive. And it's just not really like the thing that you would think it is from what you see on the news. And I'm like, fuck, I wonder how true that is for so many other people that just don't really talk about it, you know? True. Very, very true. I totally agree. Because I think that, like, when it comes to drugs, it's all about how you channel it. and it can make you either really great or really bad.

And like, think about how many movies, like great movies throughout the 80s in particular, were probably just basically some person that was doing a shitload of cocaine and just somehow could channel it into a creative endeavor rather than sleeping under the bridge. Right. But, I mean, I think you can channel it for so long. I'm assuming nine times out of ten, like, it's going to end. up in destruction of some kind, right? That's probably sure.

Well, I mean, there are some people that wake up and they're like, you know, I'm done with this crack meth life, but I think it's a slippery fucking slope. That's all I'm going to say. I mean, I'm 28 now. I used to be insane with drugs. And now, I mean, when's the last time you to Coke? Probably like at least three years ago now, yeah. Oh, I can't say the same.

Maybe a little less. I forget. But now, as I get older, every year I get. get older, I feel worse and worse about like these party drugs, you know? Even alcohol sometimes still. But like that could be the thing. Like I feel like a really good coked out podcast would never get old. Like the level of creativity that we would probably be able to bring to this platform right now

if we were doing coke, it could, I mean, it would be a sight to be seen for sure. Someone go grab it. Let's fucking go. I think the coke you're doing or we're doing, excuse me. Straight from the cartel. Straight. This is LA, baby. Oh, yeah.

I'm in Utah. Think about the Coke I was doing. I'm like, this was a laxative, and then something that made me feel weird. I don't feel creative at all. I would get my Coke straight from the Mormon church if I lived out there. They probably do have cartel ties, let's be honest. They have to. They have to survive.

I think they have the most money out of any religious institution in the world. Have you ever heard that? No. I mean, they take what, like, tithing? Right. 30, what is it? 30%, so you grew up there? Yeah.

Okay. And you were brought up Mormon? And then you strayed? I, yeah, I was raised Mormon. And my, there's a whole Utah culture of Mormons that I'm not going to talk shit about it, even though I have like a million fucking times. Yeah, we got to do that, yeah. Okay.

I mean, the Utah Mormon culture very different than being. Mormon in Argentina. Does that make sense? My mom was raised Mormon in Argentina. Then she moved to Utah. And the culture in Utah, if you're Mormon, judgey, like growing up, like I couldn't hang out with Mormon kids because my mom put me in private Catholic school.

Oh, okay. So that's that big of a thing. It's a huge thing. It's a huge thing. I mean, they're wearing tank tops over T-shirts. That's fun. Fine. That's fine. But as a fashion thing, not fine for me. But my mom didn't want me to have to deal with that culture. So she put me in private Catholic school, even though no one in my family is fucking Catholic. Okay. Yeah. But what's it like in Argentina for the Mormons? Are they just wild and topless?

No. No. I think that. Well, they are topless. I've been out there. You have? I went in Rio de Janeiro or where the fuck I were. That's Brazil. Oh, yeah. Whoops. What's the big fucking city in Argentina? Buenos Aires. That one. I wasn't sure I was going to say it right. Some of us are not.

Yeah, but I smoke a lot of weed and I just go to all these different cultures and I just forget everything. But one thing I do remember about Argentina, besides the food being fucking horrible and just eating like shitty burgers and pizza the whole time and shit. I'm not Catholic, but like signing the cross with the fuck. No, I did have some good food, but I just felt like on the whole, like the street food and the fast food and shit, I was just like, this is not as good as it. in a lot of places. Again, I don't want to say you're not cultured, but the fact that you're going to Argentina and trying to hit up every McDonald's,

that's not you, not McDonald's, but like I'm saying like that like everywhere I was going out there, people were just trying to feed me burgers and pizza. And I was like, bro, this is like just what we eat in America, but worse.

I feel like you're lying. Anyway. I've lived there for a minute. Somebody we know drove us to this area and took us through this loop in this park and it was just all, let's say, sex workers standing all in this park and people would just drive through and just pick one up and then just drive to another part of the park and just do their fucking nasty in the and they

took us there because they told us like yo this shit is like a fucking house of horrors you got to see this and we drove through and it was fucked like it was so crazy and I will never forget it was it was a house of horrors I don't want to sound like a snob but I don't fucking believe you Why? This is Blenosiris, Argentina we're talking about. Yes. You swear? You decided you smoked weed, you don't remember.

Oh, we were smoking the shittiest weed of my whole life out there. It came in a brick. I just stopped. It was so bad. I was just like, fucking I'm sober for the next week. Why was it the House of Horrors? What did you see? I'm so interested now.

Like mutants. People who just looked like they were just non-human entities. Amputees. I apologize. I don't want to sort of reflect on the whole country or anything, But at this particular prostitution spot, it was just fucking bad, dude. Okay, well, don't listen to him. Buenos Aires is a great fucking place to go, and the people are beautiful.

Okay? Yeah, just not at this particular location. But I'm sure some of them probably were. I don't know. Okay. Sounds like it was fun, scary. Yeah. You've never seen anything like that here.

Well, to be honest, having, like, lived adjacent to Skid Row for a long time. I wouldn't say it was all that different, really. Okay. But it was more of like a... They were just there for prostituting themselves. So it was like all condensed, like a lot of really crazy sights all in one. And you didn't pay for any. No.

No. Oh, my God. You're above that. This particular clientele for sure. Yeah. I don't know. Anyway, so, okay, you're living back in Salt Lake City or in Utah now. How's that going?

I mean, I was living in New York four years. Yeah, it's got to be a big change. Big change. I'm living in my mom's basement. I'll be going back to New York in a few months, but I have spent, yeah, the last year in Utah, and it's been different. Did you feel just like New York one? Because it's like a very hard place to just exist. New York or Utah?

New York. Utah is like, you can just live in a... cabin in the woods for like 400 bucks a month. No, no, no, no, no. Oh, you mean New York one in that sense? No, I thrived in New York. I fucking loved New York. If anything, I think Utah puts me in a weird headspace, to be honest.

Uh-huh. Yeah. Why did you retreat? I choose to think of this like a war between you in New York City and that New York just defeated you. Well. This is the narrative I'm spinning. I don't want that.

I don't know. I just like, why did you want to? to go back. There's the civil version of this question. That was a fun narrative. That's absolutely not what fucking happened. I COVID hit. Oh, that's a good point. But if we're going to be fucking real, I had some drama.

I heard. Yeah. I had some very, very public fucking drama. And I wanted to crawl back to my mommy for a minute. You know? Relatable. For a minute, for a year. Now it's been a year.

But did it happen during all that drama? or did it happen when COVID hit? Those overlap. So it was like it was the same. I'm going to say it had more to do with this drama that we're alluding to. Well, let's stop alluding. So you know what was crazy about that shit when it happened is that, you know, somebody like me who just would never listen to this podcast just all of a sudden was just drawn into this fucking drama.

And I just, I noticed that it happened with my girl recently because the Joe Budden podcast broke up. My girl fucking paid $2 for the Roryan Mall explanation video about why they were, why they left or whatever. I literally didn't even get a chance to pay the $2 myself. She had already paid it. We listened to it in the car driving to the mall. And I was like, that's so crazy that like when podcasts break up, everybody gets interested. Right away.

Well, I mean, okay, podcasting is like a very new fucking thing. If you really think about it. There haven't been that many breakups in podcasting. I mean, we've heard about it in radio. I couldn't name two people, but like we have. It must have happened, right? No. And hold on.

So what happened with Joe Biden? Your girlfriend paid $2. Excuse me, fiancé, put respect on the name. Right. Oh, Jesus Christ. Damn. Holy shit. Oh, did everybody else in the room notice that I fucked that up? God damn.

Probably will not be the last time that I fucked that up. Okay. Fiancee, which is not really a whole. word that I'm thrilled about having to say. That just kind of sounds silly to me. Wife sounds fine. You ought to put an accent over the E. It's like Beyonce.

Beyonce! Fianc! Got an Elaine Dennison real quick. Those fucking people were smart as fuck. They put what? They put the video behind a paywall. They did. Yeah, Rory and Mall.

They probably made like a hundred racks plus real quick. Shut the fuck up. I mean, you only need 50,000 people that pay two bucks and boom, you got a hundred thousand bucks which you know them probably not saying they're broke or anything but probably definitely felt pretty good to make 50,000 bucks real quick absolutely that's fucking smart and shit but um i bet you wish you thought of that boom 50 racks hit me uh probably more because like the barstrel audience is bigger than like the rap audience because i feel like you know being a bro is like bigger than being a rap really yeah that's interesting sports sports is the biggest

thing in the world. Not to say that your podcast I need to do with sports, but you know, just by being a part of that universe, God, I feel like it just amplified it so much. Yeah, absolutely. And I, it was a huge fucking deal.

Yeah, you're like, oh, these people paid $2 to watch a video. I think a video that was released about the whole drama from my ex co-host that was like talking shit about me essentially the whole time. Like, it's got to be a few million. views now.

Yeah, I remember just watching that and just learning so much about all this drama. And it's just like, you know, it just feels like that audience. The audience for the breakup was like so much bigger than the audience that existed before or even after. Like I'm sure you guys are both still doing great. But it's just pretty crazy how that the breakup could be so much interest in this or so interesting in so many people. Okay.

I'm so fucking happy you said that because you're, no one's ever brought that up. like in an interview that's so fucking true. We were huge, but that drama just blew it the fuck up in a way that like I can't even explain. It was wild. People love drama. They fucking love it.

You know? Do you feel like strategically she did a better job of getting her narrative out there than you? So that kind of turned you into like the Satan in the whole thing? I think there was no, strategy that could have saved me in that instance. Really? Yeah, because if you're looking at the sports bros and the audience they had,

and then you're looking at the platform I was on for two years, you know, she was able to release her side to all those people. What did I have? My Instagram account? I couldn't get on the podcast and release anything, you know? So they had literally millions of people. I had whatever I have on Instagram, like 700,000. But you think that people would be so happy to like aggregate your response that it wouldn't

necessarily matter. But you ended up feeling like that wasn't really the case that even in the media, they didn't really cover your side of things? I think I would have gotten bulldozed. And I think my strategy of going dead silent and ghosting, I think that was the move because like everyone was like, fuck Sophia. That girl's fucking dumb. and I went radio silent

and without even saying anything a month or two into it, people started to say, where is she, we miss her, like come back, blah, blah, blah. It's the same with dude.

It's the same shit with dating. Like, fucking go radio silent and ghost that motherfucker and let people know what they're missing. Right. I'm being serious, yeah.

Allegedly. But then, I feel like the guy doesn't want to, the guy won't care until he sees the competition. Like I remember when I was single back in the day, that that would be for sure. I would just like totally ghost to girl.

And then I'd realize that she had a boyfriend and I would just, without even thinking about it, it's like, oh, I should text her. But you're a dude. Okay, but you're a fucking dude. My strategy, I think I did everything right. Like I, if I put my, you know, video out on my Instagram or whatever platform I had

because the rest was taken away, it just, it wouldn't have hit the same. I went ghost mode on everyone who had been listening to me for two years straight, ghost. And then three months later, I was like, hi, bitches, I'm back and I have an announcement. Doesn't that hit harder? I don't know. I think you got to get in the mix in the middle of it, to be honest. Sort of.

Like, because otherwise I feel like, and especially her having Dave as this, like, captive audience to just sort of, like, agree with, like, her. Because, like, obviously, they just kind of, like, clicked up and it just sort of, I don't know. I feel like you kind of like let everybody think turn you into the op in this situation. Yeah. Yeah. But at the same time, I, I think no matter what the fuck I put out there, I think I was going to get bulldozed. I really do.

Next time I get canceled, though, I will. I will absolutely be calling you and I will get in the mix. How would you describe your mental health while all that was going on? Were you just like obsessively refreshing Twitter? Did you have to like check out at some point? I would go back and forth. I mean, I'm still not recovered, to be like completely honest. Like, I still have things that are like lingering from that.

And it happened a year ago. Mental health, not good. Let's put it that way. I would try to stay away from social media. But at the same time, I knew I needed to have a comeback. I knew I needed to know what people were fucking saying and what, you know, the narrative was about me, which was I was terrified of New York, so I ran away, according to Adam.

Well, that's like me as like a very passive observer. That's what I was left with. If somebody on the street had asked me to explain, that's what I would have gone with, which I assume that like a large percentage of people, that's pretty much like how closely they were paying attention, don't you think? Really? Yeah. This is what people do.

They're like super passive. When I meet somebody on the street, what do they say to me? what was it like meeting meeting X and what was it like that time the guy pulled a gun on you on live stream like my whole existence gets broken down to like one interview I did and one time the guy tried to rob me

that's so fucking true people pick up on what they find interesting and they roll with it and the rest is like garbage but I I don't know my mental health yeah my mental health was fucked up I wouldn't I would try to not look at shit

but at a certain point Like, you can't just, you can't stay away from it, you know? Like, I can delete my Instagram and all of this shit. At first, when the comments started rolling in being like, you're canceled, you're a bitch, you're stupid, you're ugly, you fucking hate you. I turned off my Instagram comments. And then I was like, you know what? Fuck this shit.

I'm turning them back on. Everyone have fun. Because really, they can go to any fucking picture and comment on it. So your question, I tried to stay away, but at a certain point you can't. And I would find myself looking through the comments because I needed to know how I was going to strategize my comeback, you know? Were you worried that like a barstool fan, like a crazed barstool fan wearing like a beer helmet was going to like come and kill you or anything? Did that ever like cross your mind? I was already worried about that when I was like working there.

So no, it wasn't any different. Some guy with, like, his face painted and, like, a fucking football jersey just... That's what I would probably be worth. Is that, like, a thing? Like, if you're a woman who works at Barstow, do you get, like, cool stalkers that you wouldn't get otherwise? Okay. I haven't had, like, a physical encounter, but, like, my DMs and shit are very scary, yes.

Really? Oh, fuck yeah. Hell yeah. We'll get DMs from dudes saying, I just saw you at this and this place. You look beautiful. Those kind of throw me off. Those creep me out a little bit. I'm not going to lie.

Yeah. One time I posted a picture of like a piece of cake that I was eating at a restaurant and then the manager comes over to me and is like, I have, I have somebody, one of your relatives is on the phone. They need to speak to you. And I'm like, it's a fan. Shut the fuck up. He's like, what the fuck is a fan?

I'm like, I'm like, just tell him, just say no. He's like, he couldn't understand that this was like a fucking troll-ass kid who just figured out what fucking restaurant we're at. Holy shit. And it was just a picture. of the cake. Yeah. Holy shit.

Damn. See, I'm so fucking goalable and naive. I would have been like, oh my God. Like, is it my grandma? Please hand the phone over. Let's go. I immediately do because I'm like, why the fuck with my family?

I don't call me? Like, why would they, my family know I was at this restaurant? Damn, I need to start calling you for like advice to strategize if I get a fucking random ass phone call. I'm naive and goalable as fuck and that's just what it is. I'm learning as I go. How old are you?

37. About to kick the bucket. Oh, okay. You have 10 years on me. Yeah, but like being in the youth subculture podcast, YouTuber space that I'm in, 37 feels pretty old. I fucking bet.

But I'm embracing it. Yeah. No, absolutely. I mean, people that don't embrace that shit, it's like it's gonna happen. So what the fuck? I feel like getting old's a lot scarier for women than men. Well, yeah.

Why? Because so many women based so much. much of their identity on their looks. I know. And the way that I treat myself in my body and like alcohol consumption and drug consumption, I'm not going to say when or what. I'm going to look fucking 50 in five years. I'm just telling you right now. I think that when I see like a hot ass 20 year old girl just smoking Marlboros back to back and shit, and I'm like, God damn, you're really trying to run the clock out on this shit. Marble, Marlore. Oh my God, Marlboro. Holy shit. Right.

Say it again. Marlboros. It is a weird word. Marlboros. Marlboro. And he got a Marlboro? There's like a word that we're all used to say and we never think about how fucking stupid it sounds.

I'm that bitch. I'm not cigarette bitch. You know it sucks they got rid of the Marlboro, man. I would I like to at least be able to try out for that. I don't even smoke cigarettes. I only think about the camel. Joe Camel. What is that?

What cigarette is that? Camel. Oh my God. Back to back, I can't pronounce a fucking word, and I don't know what the camel's. Because you know why? Because I'm 28, and we jeweled. Oh, that's true. Okay.

That's a thing, you drink white claws and fucking hit the jewel. Yeah. That's why I didn't. That's why I wasn't familiar. So everyone would fucking relax. But then, you know what, though? I'll see like a fucking 45-year-old, like, gangster drinking a white claw and hitting the jewel, too. And I'll be like, I'm like, this shit is not, like, just for the kids.

It's like, it's so efficient in terms of, like, getting a head high or, like, getting drunk very slowly. Uh-huh. That's like, people just can't. People can't turn down the white claws, dude. That shit has taken over the world. I'm not going to tell you what I'm drinking right now because then you would loot me in with those people, but 100%. What is that? A happy dad?

A sparkling water. With alcohol in it? Mm-mm. Really? Mm-mm. Okay. I don't do that. Oh, there's a white claw right there.

That's cool. Oh. My employees are just drinking white claws today. But I don't even feel like they're getting drunk because they're drinking White Claw. So it feels like they're not, like I don't think they have enough in the fridge to get drunk if they wanted to. I totally agree. I mean, have you ever been White Claw drunk? I had three one time.

Wait, you're not drink really? I don't know a drink. Oh, that's fucking great. I like want to join you on that. Yeah, it's great. Is it? I can't even remember why the fuck I used to do that shit. Wait, can you please explain it to me because I need someone to have a talk with me?

I just stopped going out. And then at some point, the pandemic hit, too. But I had already kind of not been going out for like a year before that because I was just like in the gym like crazy. And then like doing hella interviews and like actually working on my business. And I just started like really get sick of like going out. And so I just kind of stopped drinking like that. And then now I like have this co-host, AD, who's a full blown raging alcoholic. And he, he's always trying to give it a drink.

And I'm just like, I just don't want to. like I just don't fucking have any desire to. So I just always turn it down pretty much. I got drunk on here with a bunch of random ass fucking hose called the blackout girls one time. Okay. I'm not going to lie to you. I did look up no jumper to just get a little background. And I saw that video and I was like, what fucking show am I going on?

That was the wildest shit I've ever seen in my life. Those girls are fried. We actually got a cease and desist over that interview from Tristan Thompson. Why? Because one of the girls said that she had sex with him and while he was married or whatever. Holy shit. I mean like did the lawsuit go through?

No. Oh no, it's a season to sit. So they just were saying basically that we had to delete it. And so we deleted it and re-uploaded it without that clip even though it had already been on TMZ and every fucking gossip blog on earth. What's crazy is that girl now they're trying to like, I see them talking about her in headlines.

Like she's an actual famous person now and I'm like, How the hell did that happen? She was just a random girl when she came on here. And now because she apparently fucked this dude or whatever, she's like, you know, she's lit. I've gained like 80,000 followers. She's in the game. She's probably going to have a fucking Fashion Nova deal soon. Okay, well, what are we going to say so I can like kind of leave here with something too?

I'll fucking lie. Just tell me what to say. I'm ready to go. We kind of have had to learn the lesson about not airing out rappers on here because I've had so many girls come on here and say like, oh, I was licking this rapper's asshole. and then boom, it's fucking World War III with that rapper and they're pissed off. And, you know, so that I try to avoid at this point. But the thing about you is that you probably don't have any good stories about rappers.

You probably have stories about like fucking John Elway or some shit, which don't really affect me. So you can just tell me whatever. I feel like you're baiting me right now and you want me to name drop. Sure, yeah, go ahead. Because that's not my world. Like, white people, no white person can tell me shit about talking about them on this podcast.

Like, it's just don't even my, it doesn't concern me. Okay, well, I do have one guy and it's not a white person. Maybe Eminem. What? Eminem is. If Eminem was upset about the podcast, I'd have to address. I'm going to keep my mouth shut. Come on.

Garth Brooks. No, because what I say. Ricky Martin. No. Okay. No. No, not going there. I'm better than that.

Are you? Mm-hmm. You're going to be hitting me up afterwards. Like, can you delete those? I know. I'm going to be like, can you input me saying the name? Because I regret not fucking saying it. No.

We're too good. And you're too good. good for that. We don't name drop anymore. I mean, I don't care. We can, we could do it however you want to do it. No, it's not a thing. Nope. Lips are sealed. I had Julia Rose on the podcast and she read a fucking mean mean text from Jake Paul that was like, dude, this dude is the fucking William Shakespeare of mean breakup texts. And then she made me delete it from the interview. Shut up. I mean, I was crazy. I don't know, I have my own DMs from both of the Paul brothers. Really? You never felt the need to swim in those Shores?

No. Because I just, I've heard stories that every single L.A. girl has fucked both of them, which I think is great. Absolutely. But I don't know. I don't like having casual sex anymore. I used to, but I'm over that. I can't even imagine how jaded to pussy those two dudes are. Right?

Scary. And I don't want to fuck a dude that's jaded to pussy. I want to fuck a dude that's like, I barely get pussy. This pussy is fucking. amazing and I want to make this girl come. That really is what you want, dude. No, it is. You're never going to get fucked by a guy, like, you're going to get fucked by a guy who's

sleeping on the couch. That's what I'm saying. Because he's fucking you like he needs that couch space. Absolutely. Broke, ugly guys are the best fuck ever. Ever. I read this whole crazy-ass blog post or some shit from some girl that like flew out to fuck Blueface and she was just talking about how like inattentive and how much he didn't

give a fuck about her feelings and shit. And I'm reading it. I'm just like, fuck yeah. Like, that's blue face. Like, I know this fool and I know he's exactly like that.

And I'm so glad that, like, him in real life was like totally on brand. Like, he's blue face. Of course he doesn't give a fuck about you. He got a house with 20 girls in it right now. And like, you know,

like, I don't know. I just like, that's what girls don't get is like, there's a girl, like, normally as chicks who ain't done shit think that like fucking a rapper must be the best thing on earth.

It's like you're never going to fuck anybody who's going to care about you less than a rapper. Dude, fucking a famous dude, a rapper, an athlete, that is the worst fuck on planet Earth. They shove your face into a pillow, tell you to shut the fuck up. They tell you they're wearing a condom. They rodog you. They give you herpes. And then they fucking come on your back.

And they're like, get the fuck out. Who gave you the hurt? I actually don't have herpes. I do have mouth. I have oral herpes. You heard it here before. First, I do get cold sores. TikTok that.

Fuck off. I don't have herpes. but that's what it is. That's what they fucking do. Right. You know? I think I might have that one too, though. The herpes, like the herpes one is the one that everybody has and herpes two is the real deal.

Yes. I've gone, my entire family gets cold sore since we were born. That's the clip fucking called this, the cold sore, whatever title you want to give it. Oh, put that in the title. Yeah. Put a pin in that. No, but that's real. Like, I remember, like, young people think that having herpes is such a big deal and now having

live my life for this long, I just know that so many people who have it and I don't understand how I don't have it. But I don't know. It's just like, it really just kind of a, it's like getting shot. It happens to a lot of people. It is so fucking common. And I mean, I've gotten chlamydia. Thank God you can just take a pill. But do I want to say this year and now, everyone has herpes. everyone has it they really do because you can barely get a test for it and it's i'm not saying have unprotected sex okay that's not the type of bitch i am wrap it up use a condom but herpes is so fucking common so many people have it but there's so much shame and there's such a stigma that like no one will fucking talk about it right there's like a few things like that you really

can still kind of get away with like saying about somebody like you can't really really calling with fat anymore. But you can be like, yo, you herbie's infested, bitch. And nobody's gonna, like, somehow the woke community doesn't really, but there probably is some sliver of it that is really concerned with, like, SDD shaming.

Right. Damn. That's fucking interesting. Fat, you can't say, but you could be like, you fucking chlamydia gonorrhea herpes ass ho. And it's like, that's fine. But I don't, I didn't really see anyone shine away from calling Trump fat, you know, like this seemed like

Certain people just get that. But if you're that big, then you're fine. That fat or that famous? Because he was like really famous and like kind of like marginally fat. It wasn't like gigantic. See, I've been canceled before, so I'm too scared to even have the fat conversation. I'm not going to comment on Donald Trump's weight. Okay.

I just think that STDs, no one talks about it. So yes, you can call someone like a herpes. asshole. Okay. Let me ask you this. Do you have to like work out and go out of your way and eat healthy to maintain your figure or are you just naturally like this? I'm naturally like this, but I won't be in like five years. Really? You can see yourself filling out? I'm, I'm, yes. Oh, no fucking doubt. And I'm going to have like my skin. I'm going to be so dry. I'm going to be disgusting in 10 years. I already know it. So you really smoke cigarettes like all the time? No, but I have, I jeweled for almost two years. And I quit five days ago.

Five days ago. Five days. You didn't really quit. No, I did. No, five days? Dude, the jewel, you fucking smoke that shit. I would wake up, smoke it. Just, I would wake up in the middle of the night and be like, I'm going to take a drag.

And now I'm five days off of it. That's, that is pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. I'll check back in with you. I didn't smoke weed for a week. And I felt like I had just done something. Like, it didn't really feel it hard, but it felt like such proof of it.

to myself that I could just have weed on me and not smoke it. Because that's like the whole problem is like if I come here, like even if I don't roll a blunt, he's going to roll a blunt. Somebody else is going to roll a blunt. Yeah. Yeah. I'm ready for him to like blow some smoke in my fucking face. I'm ready to go.

I'll probably just wait. Why did you, why do you smoke weed though in the first place? It's fun. It makes everything fun. What? How, though? How is it different from alcohol? Because I can't smoke weed.

I've tried. I don't know. It's just sort of, you know, it's just like an enjoyable little, like, buzz that you get going. Makes you feel funny. Makes you feel creative. Like, but honestly, I just interviewed this rapper currency who, I don't know. You probably never heard of him. But he's like a super legendary, like, weed smoking rapper.

And he, we did, like, two and a half hours smoking weed and eating the fucking gummy rings the whole time. And I felt like, you know, by the end of it, we were just both, like, mushy little man babies, just having this super, like, childlike conversation through the, the kush was like speaking through us you know so it was garbage is what you're saying i thought it was amazing it was the best thing i ever did okay but do you kind of think if you like listen to it sober it was garbage or you think it was like the best fucking shit it's not like coke where like i know like when i was doing coke i would like meet some girl and she'd be like i be like what do you do for a living she'd be like oh i like am a assistant to a real estate investor

i'd be like oh my god that's so cool and just like talk to her about it for like two hours it's not like that. Oh, okay. You know, where like you're making a big deal out of everything. Right. You're like are just thinking that you're going to take over the world. You know that coked out conversation? Yes.

I remember I read an article and I can't remember like what fucking rock star like Hall of Fame guy it was, but he wrote a bunch of music and like did a bunch of songs on Coke thinking he was like the best shit ever. And then he said looking back, it was the most garbage fucking shit. So you're saying weed is not like that. No. Everything you do. on weed is better.

You ever drink Lean? I did once, but it was so long ago I don't remember. Okay. What? It's similar to that? No, I'll drink it once in a while. But that's one thing where there's like so many rappers who swear that that's like the key to their creativity and that they like need that in the studio.

And that's how they end up getting super addicted to it. Like so many rappers have the story of getting way too into lean and then having to quit lean. Really lean. What is it? fucking cough syrup and Sprite and a jolly rancher in a styrofoam cup. You don't even need the jolly rancher. That's just sweet enough on its own. But yeah. Okay. I did it once, but I, you know what? Now I might try it. No, I'm fucking not going to try it.

If you want to sell her lien, swim in her DMs. No, no, I'm good. You got drank in Utah. I don't know. I don't believe that weed and lean make you more creative. I think it's a fucking mindset. You would lose your mind if you found out how expensive lean is and that people willingly pay for it. Well, it's like 150. $50 easily for a line, which is an ounce, and most people would probably drink, like, a couple lines in a night. So it's, like, easily, like, $300 plus for... Damn.

Yeah. That's expensive as fuck. Why is it so expensive? Because it's really hard to get in short supply. All right. Business idea. Someone figure out how to make synthetic lean and think about how rich we're going to go. The cartels are way ahead of you, but I don't know if it's really caught on yet.

I'm surprised they haven't done that. I think selling fentanyl pills is probably easy. here. It's so small. And like just kill a bunch of people. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. But that's only when they fuck up. The goal is not to have the figs and have so much fentanyl in it that it kills you. The goal is to just have it spread evenly, but these motherfuckers are not exactly master chemists, so they fuck it up. Okay. Yeah. I've never thought that much into it. I thought like someone was doing it on purpose. They just like didn't give a fuck. No, but like that, I mean, I guess sometimes maybe. Like I've heard about what TV show is that where they fucking put they like spike the drugs in an area to kill a bunch of people in this one

Oh I watched way too much Netflix it all just blends together Yeah, I haven't heard that one Hmm so let me ask you this when you come out to L.A. What kind of like booty calls are you lining up in the like do you have like dudes that you like have plans to link up without here? Literally zero really? Really? Because once again, like I don't want to fuck the famous dude

or the YouTuber or the athlete. Like I'm not looking to just, you know, be fucking, have my head put in a pillow and be fucked from behind and then thrown the fuck out. Right.

I'm not into that. I like want a dude that's going to be like, can I go down on you for an hour? Can I touch your butt hole for an hour? And like, Ben, can you fuck for an hour, you know? Really? Three hours?

No, actually, three hours? No, because I did. It sounds like a surgery. Dude, I dated a dude and he would last two to three hours and it was fun at first. And then I was like, I can't, I like, I can't fucking keep up with this shit. I just can't do it. Like, what the fuck are you doing? Like, what is this some sort of like satanic ritual or something?

That's how it felt. You know, like what are you fucking? I getting crucified. Like this is an experience. Yes. Right. So no, I don't want my sex to last that long, but I want it to last longer than a, you know, Logan Paul YouTuber.

Right. Not that I fucked him. You probably lasts a long time. I don't know what his dick is like, but you got what I'm saying. Yeah. I mean, if you have to wear a condom to me, it's just, you don't know, it's not even worth doing it. Really?

Yeah. Have you heard the galactic cap? What is that? You haven't heard of the galactic cap? No. Dude, it's a sticker that you just put on your wiener hole so then you can get all the, you know, pussy juice feeling, warm vagina hole shit. Right.

I'm like sounding like a dude. But then when you come, it fucking just fills you. It can't come out. It literally fills up like a water balloon. Wow. This is real? Yes. This is in production.

You can buy this. Yes. Galactic cap does not prevent STDs. Does prevent pregnancy. Have you been sponsored by this before? No. And I'm pissed. I'm about to DM them right after this and be like, what the fuck?

That's crazy because I remember as a kid saying that I wanted to fuck my girlfriend, Rob, but then put duct tape over my penis hole. But I was just joking. I never actually thought this was something I would really do. But wow, that sounds like pretty much the exact thing that I thought of when I was like 16. They beat you to it. Dude, I have so many ideas like that. I created Amazon.

I don't give a fuck what Jeff Bezos says. I swear on my life, I remember being 10 years old and telling my mom, I wish there was a service where you could overnight ship whatever the fuck you want. I'm telling you. I feel like actually put. Putting the idea into action is probably a lot more difficult than just saying it. Like, I feel like that's kind of like what Jeff Bezos did that sort of stands alone as like a singular achievement. Okay, hold on.

Let me pull up my notes off because I have a whole list of things I came up with. Toilet duck. I'm kidding. Yeah, it was so much easier to come up with inventions when you're a kid. I know, right? Like, I remember I told my parents that I wanted to start a ketchup sandwich stand and I would sell ketchup sandwiches on the side of the road. And my mom was like,

don't you think people would want to buy hamburgers more? And just pop my fucking bubble right there. I was like, you know, seven years old or something. And this was my idea. Your mom was like real with you. She kept it real, yeah.

My mom, like, coddled me so much. I would have said anything. And she would have been like, that is so brilliant. Really? Oh, yeah. I think the way your mom raised you,

they have their pros and thumbs. You think that set you up to be a podcaster? Because to be a podcaster, you have to like genuinely believe that everybody wants to hear you talk about your period for the 50th time or something, you know? The thing is, Adam, I am the complete opposite of that bitch. I am not like that at all. And I think my listeners know that. I'm like the most self-critical.

Any piece of content I've ever put out, I look back and I'm like, that was so fucking dumb and stupid. Like, what were you thinking? So I don't know why I became a podcast. I mean, I know why, but yeah, that's not my personality. It should be, though. My life would be a lot easier. Where were you at in your life before the podcast started? Like, how would you describe what your existence was like at that time?

So I was working at Morgan Stanley in finance. Making how much? Oh, I think, like, when I was in Utah, I was making $40K. I transferred to New York. and I was making, like, I want to say 60K. And I just hated my life, you know, every single day. Like, it was not me. It was not something I wanted to do, but I had, like, convinced myself that that's what

you're supposed to do. I mean, I went to college. I graduated in economics. Like, I don't fucking, like, math. I don't give a fuck about economics. I should have majored in English, because, like, I am a talented writer, but I just convinced myself like you're not going to make money that way. And that's, that's where I was. I was working at Morgan Stanley and nine to five every single day, decided to launch a podcast. I would talk

about sucking dick when I would get home, then walk into the office in my little, you know, business attire. And that's how it happened. And are you thinking like, oh my God, I'm so bad. I'm just hiding my secret slutty podcast life from all my co-workers. There was a little. There was a little little bit of that. Just I think it was like the Utah Mormon shit that I felt a little bit like what I was doing was bad, but I was more so fucking worried that someone at, you know, my office was going to be like, yo, I just saw a video of you talking about how to suck a dick. So you should probably get fired. But can they even fire you for that these days? I feel like that's like slut shaming and they would like have like a Twitter threat about them so they wouldn't do it.

No, because there's there's something you sign and I'm sure all the big finance for firms have this. You have to sign something. If you do any other business endeavor aside from what you're doing there, you have to disclose it. Okay. So did I disclose it? Absolutely fucking not. So I don't I this slut shame, you know, the finance world is still very old school. I feel like shit that doesn't slide can in that like atmosphere. I do. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. Probably good for them to not be so concerned about what people are saying on Twitter.

Mm-hmm. But okay, so when you think back to like that time though, like, like, what were the options on the table? Like, did you know, like, I need to be a content creator? Like, was podcasting the only option that you'd really considered in that regard? So I knew finance was not my fucking shit. I knew I was more of a creative left-brain person. This is going to sound really fucking stupid, but I don't think it's stupid.

I am a firm believer in the secret. I really think you can visualize things and bring it into your life. And the funny thing is, is I was living in Draper, Utah, showing up at this finance job, listening to podcasts all day long, and visualizing, oh, my God, like, this is like a dream job, of having a podcast and I visualize myself having one. And then I moved to New York for reasons completely unrelated. I was still working in finance. And then it kind of showed up on my doorstep.

And so was it random chance? Yes, but no. Like I firmly believe like I brought it into my life. Mm-hmm. Okay. So now that you're in the place that you're in, like how thriving a business do you kind of? consider it.

Like, is it like overwhelming all the opportunities that you have associated with the podcast? Or how does it feel at this point, especially compared to your prior situation? I'm making more money now than I was. Right, because you're getting all of it. Because you're doing it all independent. You're not sign with a network or anything? No. That sleut thing you're talking about.

That's all you? Sluot is my media company. So I'm making, you know, significantly more than I was. And it's being your own boss. and owning your creative, anything you fucking make is so liberating. And it's harder, you know, I'm like a boss now. And, you know, putting out content consistently is, like, more difficult, but best decision ever. I will say, though, I mean, you would know podcasting, maybe for you, it's not that fucking easy.

Like, I don't think it's easy. Honestly, I think it's pretty easy at this point. I've done way too fucking many of these things. If somebody will talk, it's pretty easy. When they don't talk, that's when it's fucking weird. Ooh, I'm gonna keep my fucking mouth shut. We're like competition. I'm not gonna say anything else.

I just interview like 17-year-old rappers sometimes. I have like one hot song and then like I'll get them in here. It's like everything's like a two-word answer. And in my head it's like, oh my God, no. What is this going to look like? I'm in interviewer's dream because I'll have Diary of the Mout. Yeah, exactly. I'll just go.

And that's what it's like, okay, I watch the, an interview with a skateboard pro at one point and they literally asked him one question, how did you start skateboarding? It was four hours long. They did not have to ask one more question. They like interjected

and stuff but he basically just told the story of how he fucking got into skateboarding or whatever and it was so long and I'm like as an interviewer that right there is like the ultimate cheat code because that's just an insane amount of content with any work you know. But also

Also, have you ever had this when you're interviewing someone, and they just fucking go on their own, in their own world, own dimension? It had nothing to do with what you asked about, and you, like, can't stop them. Yes. Methods that you interview. Yes. Actually, I call my fans the methods. But you know what I'm saying. Yes.

I've done some interviews with these, like, elderly gangsters, and they just will fucking take off on tangents. And they speak kind of slow. So it's like even if they're not really saying that much, it's still like a 10 minute response. Oh, yeah. But in those situations, I think you just got to just buckle in. You got to just be like, you know, fuck my schedule. I'm sitting here for two, three hours.

No problem, you know. You let them run. Yeah. You don't like cut them off. Yeah, because that's one thing I was thinking about when I was listening to your podcast. You were talking about how long it takes, like how much time you spend recording? And I'm like, what the fuck are you recording aside from the actual podcast? Like, why does it take so long?

Wait, what did I say? Where'd you hear that? On, like, I think your most recent episode, you were just talking about, like, oh, my God, we spend so much time recording. We're in here so late. And I'm like, what kind of pre-production are they doing? Or what is this?

I wish there was pre-production. I mean, there's, like, barely anything. I think it's, I, again, I will listen to something I recorded, and I'll be like, that is fucking trash. Let's go in a new direction. I would never imagine doing that. I just do whatever. I know.

Let it out. I make mistakes on camera. it in. I know there's gonna be 5,000 comments clowning me for not knowing something. You're more talented that mean you smoke weed. No, no, no, no, no. I'm not gonna start smoking weed. That's what you do. You do need to start smoking weed. Bring the blunt over here. I'm not even kidding. No, I am. What about the 20-20 rings? What is that? This is the secret. You're talking about the secret? This is the secret. Edibles? These things are fucking amazing. I know people that edibles change their lives. It changes my life because it makes me go to bed at like 10 p.m.

I love that. Yeah. Um, these ones already open, so I figured it'd probably be better. Um. Do you double dog, do you want one? You probably do you open? No, I would, no. No, because honestly, everyone's going to be different feedback.

I know, like, veteran weed smokers who have eaten one of these and, like, had a very, very long, long night. Because they freak the fuck out. Yeah, well, I didn't freak out, but they just, like, end up, like, fucking passing out hell early and just sleeping for 12 hours, like a fucking rock. Yeah, I just I wish I could smoke weed I really do Because what's an alternative If you want to go to bed early

Kwanapin Yeah exactly And like we all know that shit is horrible for you Yeah so hit so hit the fucking bowl pipes And then boom you're fucking sleeping Adam I tried smoking weed again Like a year ago

Right I jumped into my mom's lap And I was like shit I'm gonna be I'm psycho now and I'm going to be crazy and stuck in this world forever. Please take me to the local Presbyterian Hospital. It's down the street. I miss those days.

Have you ever had a freak out on weed? I really need to know. Yes. You have. I have this really vivid memory of when I first moved to L.A. And I went to this club on Hollywood Boulevard, supper club, which is like super bougie and like, you know, basically like all these rich people trying to show up how rich they are.

And we're just sort of like masquerading, completely broke, just acting like we've got something going on. trying to meet girls whatever and I meet some girl we end up hanging out another time after that then she she we had joked around about watching the little mermaid together so I had a blunt rolled I go to or I had my friend roll me a blunt because she said like can you bring weed I didn't really smoke weed that much at this point it was like 2010 when I first moved to Long Beach and I go over her house we smoke the blunt we start watching the little mermaid I am freaking the fuck out I don't know what it was, but this blunt just destroyed me.

In my head, I'm losing it. And it was kind of like I had hung out with her, like, you know, like, I guess at the club and then another time. And then like it felt like we were supposed to like, you know, hook up more significantly. Like we hadn't even kissed or whatever. And I'm in my head losing my mind. Like, oh my God, I cannot even consider doing anything sexual right now because I'm losing it. But I'm sitting there trying to stay straight-faced.

Right, because he wanted to fuck her. Yeah, it didn't happen. Not that night. But you kept it all internal. Like, you never once were like, hey. I was like, okay, good night, let's go. She probably was like wondering, like, why is he not being like affectionate towards me or anything? But that seems out to me because I remember the next time we went out, I got so drunk in the club that I like passed out.

and she had to like drive me home in my car and she was drunk as fuck too. Oh, yeah. I did that thing. For me, if I was a girl and a guy got so drunk. that he passed out or like was like that bad. Uh-huh. I can't imagine any bigger turnoff. The fact that she had sex with me after that is pretty incredible.

Shocking. Shocking. At a later date. Yeah. I puked too. You did on her though? No, not on her. Okay.

But the, so you smoked a blunt and freaked the fuck out. Yeah. And then another date. I got way too drunk. Okay. That's really embarrassing. Wow. Well, it's your charisma.

She couldn't see past that. He has something going for him Yeah, I don't know I mean you ever waste like a bunch of your time On like a fucking skater boy Who was just like the biggest piece of shit And you just somehow thought in your head You're gonna like turn I don't know why skater boy

Just seems like the scary outside to me But just some fucking loser dude Who you just were trying to breathe life into him And you believed in him But he just had nothing going on for him Honestly Yes I have Not since high school though

Really I learned very early on. Like, you can't, you can't change people. You can't change men. They're not dependable. Like, I knew that from the get-go. Basically, how to be a gold digger. Yeah, basically.

I heard you on Mandy's podcast saying, I don't care if he has a big dick. And you need a big bank account. I'm like, oh, my God. I feel like I'm listening to a fucking city girl's song or something right here. This is horrible. How dare you infect the minds of these young girls with this horrible stuff? Date broke men.

Okay. Broke men for. sex, yes, but I feel like so many, so many fucking women are like, hot guy, I want the hot guy. I would rather, okay, if you have to decide between a hot or a rich dude, all right? Love is not involved. Right.

Because love is fleeting. Well, this is obviously how the world is structured. Right. And Jay-Z is dating Beyonce married to, sorry. Okay, and you're seeing Jay-Z's ugly. I'm saying that if you were to group Beyonce, with other women who are as attractive as her, then there would be like a lot of the most attractive women on Earth.

And if you were to do the same with Jay-Z, he's just not going to be in the same category as Brad Pitt. Yeah. And if I'm going to get cheated on or if a dude is going to not be dependable or be an asshole, I'd rather be, you know, on the yacht with, you know, half the alimony instead of a hot dude. You just need to make enough money that you could, that you can only date like the pool boy.

Yeah. You're trying to like rehabilitate him. Yeah. But you know what? I'm saying that and I'm like I will always make my own money. But I still want him to have ambition, okay? Ambition. When are you going to start a family?

What are you waiting for? Tonight. No, I'm not kidding. I talked about this on my last episode. So if you're enough, go check it out. I'm like ready to get pregnant. So slide into the DMs like I'm ready. I said you need a bank account.

I'm 28. I'm desperate. I'm 30. We'll take whatever I can get, slide the fucking. Are you really ready to make that change? I don't think you ever fucking feel ready. I mean,

when you had your kid, were you like, I am ready to have a kid, let's fucking go? Pretty much, yeah. Really? So you planned it out. Well, she wanted to have a kid.

I started vibbing with the idea. I was like, all right, you know what? I kind of fuck with that idea. And I'm like kind of living like an old man already. I'm like not really going out anymore. So why not?

Right. But you're like 42 or whatever. 37. lady okay well in in a year or two no you know what two or three years i i do think i'll be ready but do you i mean you should freeze your eggs so that the just in case i know right i feel it time's running out it's fucking cobweb i probably can't even get an egg now the clock is ticking man that must feel so weird as a girl to just be like the clock is ticking for me to transition into the inevitable next stage of my life that the vast majority of women but not all will take on.

You know, I think now that you can freeze your eggs and like surrogates and shit, I think it's not as looming. But ask me when I fucking hit 30. I love the surrogate idea. My girl's horrified by it. She does not want to do it. Really? Why do you like it? Because then she can keep making mad money off Onlyfans and we can pump out more kids.

But aren't people into like the pregnant shit? There's like a niche. They're into it. But, you know, in particular, I mean, you could do pregnant porn. We did plenty of it. But the actual giving births to the baby and then the period of time after that is that's the bad. That's the period. Like, you know, you just don't really feel sexy after you just had a giant fucking baby emerge from your vagina and or my.

She had a C-section. So a little trapdoor thing there. Fuck. I'm not going to lie to you. Like, the idea of giving birth and, like, the aftermath is, like, a little freak. You men have it so fucking easy Like you you don't understand My girlfriend would absolutely agree with it

My soon to be wife Would absolutely agree with that sentiment It's I mean How long did it take her to like be back in the action Like as normal or do you or do women It was a struggle It was a spectrum you know Because it's like she just doesn't want to do stuff

The way that she wanted to do stuff before Because you know having the baby It's just like she like her attachment To the baby is so much more intense than mine, whereas I just come here for eight, nine hours, and she never does something for eight or nine hours, almost, like, without the kid, you know, it's like, it's just very, it's very unfair, and as a guy, you just basically have to really, like, do the best job that you can't, especially, but it's weird for me, too, because it's like, I'm running this business,

like, all these fucking employees to deal with. It's like, I don't know. Having a dad and, like, not really, like, having an intense full-time fucking schedule would probably be great, but also boring. But also I think, dude, that's why I'm saying, like, don't go for the hot guy. Go for the guy that has money because, like you just said, as a woman, when you have a fucking kid, your bond is, like, insane, you know, and you want to be with them all the time and to facilitate that. Like, you want a guy out there making money or a woman.

I'm talking, you know, heteronormatively, but that's why I say that. That's okay. I'm trying to justify what I said. That actually is pretty fucked up. but I didn't ask your pronouns when we started this, huh? I know. Yeah, it's she. What's going on?

You don't put that in your bio? Mm-mm. Do you have people pressuring you in your DMs to do that? Because that's how I feel like it happens. I feel like somebody shows up outside of your door and shames you for not having your pronouns to your bio. No one has ever shamed me for not having it in my bio, but they have shamed me in my podcast when I just talk about a heterosexual, heteronormative relationship.

I've had people be like, can you not? just assume that it's men seeking women, women seeking men. I have had people say that. And I try my best to be correct about it, but I also talk from fucking personal experience. That's what I don't understand. Like, why the fuck do I have to give a fuck about talking about anybody else's experience when I'm talking about my experience? Because I've always been like that where like, I will state my opinion as if it's a fact. Because to me, it's so obvious that my opinion isn't just an opinion. but like I just will say like that album is the worst album in the history of recorded music

and then like people who like that album like sometimes in my life will be like well that's just your opinion it's like no fucking shit is just my opinion why would I even say anything if it wasn't if it wasn't you know like of course it's not a fact there's no fact when it comes to albums although there are probably things close to facts in terms of like opinions about art you know but no I mean when I do a podcast I'm talking

What the fuck do I know? I'm just like spewing a bunch of bullshit and, you know, people hold you to a standard. Speaking of Best Rap album, ooh, I'm going to embarrass myself right now. We were just having this conversation in the car. Best Lil Wayne son. The one with Gucci.

I figure out what it's called. I'm not responding to that. That's just my opinion. I forget. I don't know. There's a million little Wayne signs that are God level. Okay, just the best one.

The one with Gucci. I forgot what. Okay, what's the best album then? The Carter 2, I think, if I remember correctly. I don't know the name of his album. Or the Carter 1. I feel like the best rap song is Lollipop. Yeah, you would say that.

I'll give you that. That's what everyone fucking shamed me in the car over here for saying. Do you feel oppressed because as a white woman, nobody wants to hear you talk about rap? So, yes. I also okay hear me out growing up in Utah right very white my family is first generation neither of my parents were born in the United States I'm Latin X so growing up in Utah I didn't feel that white first time anyone's ever said that sincerely on the podcast I think what do you mean because we I think we've joked about the Latin X thing a few times but I've never

someone say they were Latinx and then just keep moving in the conversation. I just had to interrupt to just let you know that's a first. Because you're not Latinx. Respect. I don't know. I'm, I hear about it on the tweets, man. I'll say Spanish and Hispanic sometimes and I'm like, holy shit, I fucked up and people come after me. But it's complicated because Latinx, what? You're from Spain? No, excuse me. If you're from, nope, I'm not going to embarrass myself right now. if you're from Spain, then you can say you're Spanish. Spanish. Okay.

Mm-hmm. Which I am. Was the difference between Argentine and Argentinian in speech? You can't explain it? My family can't explain it either, so we'll look it up. I had somebody explain it to me when I was out there, but I can't really remember. Really? Probably nearby all those mortifying prostitutes.

Yeah. Did you say they're amputees? I have a fucking story about Utah that I just want to share with you real quick. Okay, tell me. And this will give you a good window into what my life was like at one point and why I now am very happy to be in a relationship and to have a child. So I was out riding my bike with my friends who lived there in Salt Lake City. And I see this girl walking out of this gas station and we're all sitting there just smoking weed or whatever. And she had mad energy drinks.

Like five energy drinks. Okay. And I like pretty much like laughed in her face. It was just like, what the fuck are you doing by her? all those energy drinks at like 9 p.m. Just like straight like because I just like spew from the mouth, whatever the fuck I'm thinking. So I like somehow felt like this was an okay thing to say to the stranger.

And she just like explained that she had a DUI and she couldn't drink. So instead she would just drink mad energy drinks. And then somehow that transitioned into her giving me oral sex within like an hour or two. And I felt like that was pretty badass. What? Off a rock star. What type? Was she a fucking rock star like mascot? No, she was like 21 year old like college student or some shit and I'm like 28 smoking weed out to the gas station in Salt Lake.

Okay. What type of friends do you have living there? Just like a pro BMX dude that I was friends with. Shout out Tate. What up Tate? Hi, Tate. Yeah. Let's hang out when I get back.

I am desperate to get pregnant. How the fuck did it end up in oral sex? You just skip that whole part. We just like went back to our house. You just pulled your dick out? At the gas station? No. We just went back to our house and then at some point that's just kind of how that happened.

Yeah. Do you feel like you've substituted alcohol with other drinks? Water. Water. Coffee, I guess, but I was already drinking coffee. Mm-hmm. Really good for you. I'm going to do that too.

You should stop drinking. I know. Ask me in 10 years. I mean, I'm the kind of person where like as soon as I stopped having fun drinking, I was just like, fuck this, I'm gonna shame everybody that I know in my life for drinking. As you should. Can you still go to like a club or like a party setting and be cool?

Or are you now like if I'm not drunk, like I'm not fucking going? Honestly, I feel like in order to have fun in a club experience, I would have to drink because like my mind, I'm just looking at everything so analytically and just like drunk people and like fucked up people just fucking the vibe is very different when you're totally sober. I remember being one of the last times I went out drinking or whatever where I didn't really drink And there was this this girl who was like off Molly or some shit around us and she was like trying to hook up with us And it's like a fucking demon like the way that she was acting like the weird faces she was making it shit And I'm thinking like if I was like 10 beers in I would think that she was totally normal like once you're like sober in that environment it's kind of like hard to enjoy it in the

same way when you're just looking at everybody like what the fuck is wrong with you animal right i mean clubs if you really think about what the fuck a club is you can't have a conversation with someone you're like screaming in your friend's ear like let's go to the bathroom it's fucking dumb that's always been the thing i hate about clubs the most is that it's like oh there's like five million hot girls here and i'm going to have to scream into their ear and they're not going to understand anything that i'm saying and i'm not going to understand anything they're saying yes amazing sounds so great Sounds so fucking fun. I feel so old complaining about this, but that's how I feel about that.

Yeah. I'm going to get on your level soon. But you just said you drank like a few weeks ago. Yeah, I did get shit-faced in here and I had to Uber home. And me and my girl are going to fight. Okay. Yeah. Oh, that's another thing with alcohol.

You get always fight. Yeah. Okay. Got it. And if you drink with a girl, whatever you can drink, she will be shit-faced off. Like by the time you're buzzing, she's fucking done. Mm-hmm. So that right there, there's the fight for you anyway.

Yeah. As soon as you're not on the same level. Yeah. I, the worst fights I've had have been when I'm drunk, for sure. Yeah. So I agree with that. Yeah. But on Molly, you don't fight.

You look like a fucking goblin, like how you just describe that girl. Dude, that's the other thing about drugs. I go to a party or something. If you take Molly, do people realize, you look like a fucking bridge troll. It's like eating your face. Yes. It's scary. It's the best.

So I'm sober now. I'm announcing it here. There we go. For sure. So what is the future hold for you besides breeding, potentially? If I can't breed with like a rich dude, I'm going to keep doing this podcast, building my media company. I'm going to get into more content. And do I have a fucking five-year plan?

No, but I'm really, really excited. I mean, we're new. Like, I'm only, like, eight months into this thing. So there's a lot on the horizon. And you're thinking you're going to keep doing it from Utah. You're not going to move to some coast. Oh, no. I'm going back to New York.

I'm not scared of New York. I promise. Okay. I promise. You'll see me posting from there. You should move to, like, Brownsville. I don't even know what that is. I'm going to go straight to Manhattan.

It's like the most dangerous part of Brooklyn. Okay. But people would probably have, like, really, respect you for living out there. Really? And I could build character probably. Yeah. Right? I think if I was your manager, that's what I would tell you. Okay. Move to a murder block. Okay. Join a gang, really. Done. It's fucking done. L.A., I don't know how you fucking live here, but I will be back in New York.

Right. Wait, you couldn't imagine living out here? What's wrong with out here? Just we need to throw shade. I don't love L.A. to be honest. Really? The people, but I don't really know the people. Do you been a Rosco's? No. Woo-woo? What the fuck is that? fried chicken spot. No, but I'm not moving somewhere for the fried chicken. Go to Rosco's tonight. Okay. That's honestly not that great. Guys, gals, let's do it. We will. You will. Really? Mm-hmm. You probably go to sweet green. No, I fucking would not. They got that in New York too. Hell no. I'm gonna go to In and out. What are you eating Utah? In and out. Really? What do I eat in Utah? Listen, I'm from Utah, but like I am not at the same time. Culturally, you don't relate to it.

No. So no. Really? Yes. But I mean, according to you, Argentina has no culture, so all I eat is fast food. I did not say that. I just reduced the culture to pizza and fucking prostitutes, mangled prostitutes in the square. I know. What the fuck? So, yeah, that's what's coming up for me.

I don't want anyone in Argentina to honestly think I have anything bad to say about their culture. I loved it out there. Mm-hmm. Good. It was kind of astonishing how poor a lot of the country was though, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, we can't say third world country anymore, so I'm not going to say that.

But yes, there's a lot of crime corruption. You fall so much further on the woke spectrum that you have so many things that you have to watch out for that I would never think of. Why don't you have to and I do? We still say the R word. Shut the fuck up. Rapper say it. Why not? I'm saying it too.

Why are you allowed to and I'm not? Because nobody expects me to be that well-behaved, I don't think. Oh, so I just need to keep fucking up then. Rap is one of the only subcultures in which so many things get to pass. It's like fucking 10 years behind, whatever the fuck people are concerned about in the outside realm. It's kind of crazy.

I think about that shit all the time. Did you see like Gen Z was trying to cancel Eminem for one of his lyrics? Hell yeah. And it's not happening. You want to know one of my favorite rap lyrics of last year? Tell me. Rio the young OG. My bitch don't work at Mac, but I'll beat her face.

I didn't laugh. He's just like subtly like bragging. He laughed. I asked him on the podcast, we could even insert it. I asked him, like what, what, what, how does your girl feel about you saying shit like that? He's like, oh man, she hears it. Because people think he's like really serious. Went to him.

He's just a punchline. Uh-huh. I assume and hope. So she gets pissed or she's fine with it? She probably gets really mad about it. But just kind of, you know, it's part of being a rapper is that you got to, like, say horrible things. Horrifying shit. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I don't do that. Right. Sometimes they do. I'm not going to lie.

It's hard out here. It's really, I mean, for me, not for you. You don't want to be a Karen. No. I am not. I am not. I am not a fucking Karen. This whole podcast was a Karen test.

Shut the fuck up. And I passed. Mm. Yes. I did. With flying colors. Mm-hmm. Let us know below in the comments.

4.0. I can't wait for these comments. Nothing. It's not going to be any worse than the shit I've already dealt with. So talk to you soon. Then barstool boys. I'll reply to every comment. We're going to actually bring our bar.

The barstool fans are going to come to no jumper for a while. That's pretty cool. That is cool. And they're going to be like, fuck that hoe. They're going to say a bunch of shit. Like when I interviewed Tiana Trump and she was talking about all these pro basketball players fucking her when she was underage.

And we did it live. And by the end of the podcast, it was already like 100 million fucking views. on Twitter from people in the NBA world clipping it and put it on there. Holy shit. That was fun. That sounds like a lot of fun. See, that's why I'm not name dropping at all. Congratulations.

But I was canceled already twice now, so you're going to have plenty of comments. So I'll see you guys in the comments. Let's go. Sophia, No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world. Check us on YouTube, SoundCloud, iTunes, like, comment, subscribe. Nojumber.com. If you want to support, appreciate you. Yeah, thank you.

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