No Jumper - The Sosa Geek Interview: Becoming Woo, Pop Smoke & Fivio Foreign Relationships

Episode Date: August 22, 2020

Sosa Geek talks about Fivio Foreign, Pop Smoke, Drake and doesn't want to be compared to Chief Keef. ----- FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jump...er/4874336901 FOLLOW OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/529mn7of2HBKdLfrAMUzcK?si=rWVBWCuWSXeh0TFYb2P-dQ CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/nojumper iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/no-jumper/id1001659715?mt=2 Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/No-Jumper-198283650194402/ http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 and adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No Jumper, coolest podcast on the world, and today we got the one and only, Sosa Geek, on the show. How you feeling, man? Vowal. Viral. Borrow. Borrow. Let's do it.
Starting point is 00:00:10 Movie. Big Woods on deck. Nice to have me on the show, man. I feel like every once in a while he meets somebody who just kind of like encapsulates the energy of their city. And when I watch you in videos and shit, I'm like, man, that's the most Brooklyn motherfucker I've seen in a minute. So, nice to have the energy on the show, man.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Yes, sir. Let's do it. Let's do it. So tell me a little bit about your upbringing. Brownsville? Brownsville. Born in Brownsville? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:37 What was it like as a kid? Tell me about it. Dangerous. Dangerous. Viral. Got to make it out. Only one survive. You might not make it.
Starting point is 00:00:48 Right. But, you know, every part of his hood, got his good part too, you know. Right. So what were your parents like? What kind of housing situation you grew up in? Right.
Starting point is 00:01:00 Projects. Nothing crazy. I done a project, you know. Right. I remember I used to go to Brownsville, like, multiple different times to watch the homie try to jump over this one rail outside of Dunkin' Donuts. What? Just over and over we were out there.
Starting point is 00:01:16 I never saw anything too crazy, but you could definitely tell it goes down over there. Mm-hmm. So talk to me about your childhood. What was it like, man? Like, how, what was a young sociague getting into around the streets of Brooklyn? Let me see. Yeah, I was always like an entertainer. Like people always loved me.
Starting point is 00:01:38 Right. You feel me? Like I always was like a person that always had like a different type of shit going on. Like I had my own different shit going on. Nakes could we do with something, but I'll be doing something totally different. I got my whole different type of vibe going on. Pulling up places like the energy making my, like when I pull up the energy change, you know? Like an energy get a little better, different. So I always had that.
Starting point is 00:02:01 I also had like a lot of hate it too like that. Because you know like the shit I do like I do like I don't know what it is. I guess it's just like I am the shit I do people who hate. I don't know. You're a hot boy. You get attention wherever you go. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:14 I hate me. Maybe they can't do what I do. You got to catch up. I don't know. There's a lot of pressure to fit in when you're a young kid in a dangerous city like New York, right? Yeah. So if you're somebody who got it in you to, you know, be out here like, like really acting like yourself having your own slang your own dances or on whatever the
Starting point is 00:02:33 fuck it is i mean it's gonna make you stand out it's like some people are gonna love you for that some people are absolutely hate you for that right yeah that's facts so uh were you interested in music what what kind of music was the sound of new york city during your childhood like what what let's do a lot yeah who you listened to um really grown up a lot to like NBA young boy that was like that was like that was like that's a That's only been a couple years. I'm talking about, like, coming up. You didn't have a G-unit phase.
Starting point is 00:03:07 You too young for that? You had a dipset phase? Yeah. You didn't have a main-o phase? Yeah, this is a couple dipset G-unit, you know, 50. Shout out of the 50. Okay. But what was, like, your favorite shit that, like, made you...
Starting point is 00:03:21 I don't know. You weren't that big of a music head? Yeah, but you wasn't... You were just around? Yeah, it wasn't around. Like, no, I wasn't just around, but I wasn't, like... You weren't like super, you weren't like the rap nerd that we kind of like, you know, us in like the rap media, we kind of like expect the rappers to be as like equally nerdy study in the rap game. Yes, sir, in the rap game.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Yeah, that's what I'm saying? Me, nah. No. It's just natural for me. That's crazy. So, all right. For real. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:51 So when did you like start to, uh, I don't know, like, how old are you right now? 23. 23. So you graduate, you graduate high school? No, I got my GED You did Oh, that's interesting I was just talking
Starting point is 00:04:04 I was just talking to Ellie chop He was saying the same thing His mom made him get the GED Even though he's blown up as a rapper GD very poor Yep You used it for anything Mm
Starting point is 00:04:17 You're GED Has it come into play at all Do I have to use it Yeah Has it like Impacted your life anyway Nah Not really
Starting point is 00:04:26 Not so much Nah Okay So how do you How'd you get interested And rapping and shit When did it become anything in your head or how did you even start to get a name before that because you're
Starting point is 00:04:36 acting like you you had like a identity going on for sure before you were actually making music right yeah like people knew who i was yes so you're saying so when you start when you decide to rap like what was it going on that you felt was going to take you in that direction um i mean like i said i always like was a creative shit invented shit doing different shit just like I guess once people start like really rapping around me and shit like that I'm like yo listen if I got out of jail I'm like yo I gotta find a new way you feel what I'm saying find out my talent what I like to do other than staying on the streets being in the street naga wild and I got to find out something else I could better myself people like me okay cool
Starting point is 00:05:21 so let me use that to my advantage just figure out now how I can make them more like me and how I could get paid off of them liking me right so I just thought it Going around people, you know what I'm saying? Going around certain peers, my friends and shit. Shout out to 504. Going around, I'm like, yo, bro, listen. This is what we about to do. Boom, boom.
Starting point is 00:05:41 I'm going to bring the energy. We're going to do it like this, woo-woo. And we're going to go viral, if I'm saying. So what were you locked up for that time that you're referring to? What was I locked up for? Yeah. I think. Reckless endangerment.
Starting point is 00:05:58 Reckless endangerment. So what would you do? What I do? You didn't do nothing. Well, okay, what they think you did? I don't know. He said something about somebody in shootings or something. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Some shit like that. You didn't shoot anybody though? Nah. No. Liars. Try to put that dirt on your name. Yeah, they always try to put dirt on your name. They try to bring you down.
Starting point is 00:06:22 But, got to go up. You got to go up. So how long you know, I fought before? A couple years. Okay. That's crazy. So you guys from the same neighborhood? How did you guys meet you guys?
Starting point is 00:06:32 Yeah, not that far. Right. But he'd been rapping a long time, though. I've seen some videos for him rapping back in the day. Yeah. I just only been rap for about, like, seven months. Seven months now? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:43 That's crazy. You know, it's crazy. Everybody I speak to say that. They say, yo, bro, you've been around for seven months. You're that far already. That's what I'm saying. Like, it's what I'm saying. Like, it really wasn't, like, this wasn't, like, really my plans.
Starting point is 00:06:55 Right. Like, you're saying, this is all natural really being me, just really being myself. Like, the shit I rap about, it's really, like, shit that I go through every day, shit that I do. If you really listen to the shit, I'm saying, it's really my lifestyle. That's why I feel like people attract to it so much because it's really everything that I'm really saying
Starting point is 00:07:13 and really going through. That's why I feel like people hate me so much because they're like, yo, damn. Just thinking everything he wraps about, he's really dead-ass doing. And dead-ass, like, making it visual to people. Like, if I'm talking about spinning $20,000, I'm really spoken about spending $20,000,
Starting point is 00:07:26 I'm really showing $20,000. I'm talking about buying jewelry, I'm really buying juries, like, it's not like I'm just, saying these things, I'm doing these things, and presenting these things to people. So they're like, you know what can we do? How can we stop them?
Starting point is 00:07:39 A lot of rappers, too. You gotta think about it too. Independently, no deal. People think about that. Rap out of Brooklyn, 23 years old, song with Drake, no deal, independent, walk around, a bunch of jury traveling the world, racks on every day. Got to think like what the hell is going on.
Starting point is 00:07:56 So anybody I think like, yo, what the hell? A lot of rappers rap about drank. They don't even be having drank. on no jumper with a drink. Oh yeah, lean. Oh yeah, we stay with lean. Right. State to state with it.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Nobody in New York got drank, right? I don't know about New York. If I go to New York, I'm going to have drink. It's hard, though. I heard that there's no more lean prices. It's just an auction every time now. Whoever's willing to pay the most gets it. We're going to make sure we got it, though.
Starting point is 00:08:21 We're going to make sure we got it. Right. Okay, so when did you become Wu? Where did this come around? I need an explanation because, like, also, you're a blood, right? Yeah. So we need the explanation about how this works exactly. What you need? I need to know how there can be cribs and blurs that are both Wu.
Starting point is 00:08:41 How they can be Chris and blus. It's not a conflict of interest. I mean, it's not, woo, it's not like a gang. It's a family shit. Uh-huh. So, what I'm saying? It's not considered like who it doesn't matter. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Like I'm saying. When did you get into that, when you get put down with that? When I get down with that? Yeah, when you become Wu? I was born and raising that. Okay. When did you start verbalizing it like that, though? And, like, actually claiming it.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Like, you always, like, that was just a day where you grew up in, or what? Yeah, it's the area I grew up in, neighborhood grew up in. That's the little, click, the little, you know, family we had going on. Right. See, we'll, that's just for we on our own. Just a couple bunch of young niggas that was really on our own trying to make it out. Right. Is that a big part of what made you want to start making music, though, is that people,
Starting point is 00:09:32 you wanted to be the one representing that. to the people out there there's obviously a big appetite for people want to hear about the gang shit and on youtube and in rap in general yeah so um early on how'd you meet pop because he's like the main dude who really kind of took the woo thing to a totally different level in terms of uh making it out there on a more mainstream level yeah god that's how do i meet him in brook him in the in the hood Right. Because I've seen in the Wu War video, he's just like, he's in the in the intro real quick. That's the day I told him to pull up. I actually shot that video in the same hood that he's from.
Starting point is 00:10:15 Really? Yeah, I'm from Brownville. Mm-hmm. I shot that video on the floor seat. Okay. So you feel like you have a connection between the two? Is there a lot of love between the two neighborhoods? I wanted to show my love and shit.
Starting point is 00:10:27 Like, no matter anywhere I go, anywhere I go, my energy going to remain the same. I'm going to go viral anywhere. So you know what I'm saying? Right. So I decided to go out of Brownsville for a second and go to another peoplehood, you know. They're around the same people we're around. They got, you know, problems with tensive with the same people we do. That's all come together.
Starting point is 00:10:48 I'm going to go over there and go viral too. Come over. Mind you, all on Crip, I'm blood. Right. I'm like, yo, fuck it, I'm still going to go over there and shoot the video. So there's never any tension about that? The Wu thing, like, overrides any of the blood and crypt shit? No.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Never had a hard time about it? Mm-mm. Is that the shit all the same when you go to prison in New York? I mean, you hear a lot about how, like, politics in L.A. and shit, it changes. Like, people get locked up in L.A. And just, like, immediately, all the gang affiliation kind of goes to the sides. And people sort of, like, group themselves based on different things. Is it the same shit out there?
Starting point is 00:11:27 I mean, not, not really. It's just whoever you got problems with type shit. Uh-huh. That's who you got problems with. it's not like anything else if you could get what I'm saying word so the woo walk thing though like that was that like your first
Starting point is 00:11:44 song that really made people start paying attention that was the one that you felt like actually kind of took the movement and encapsulated the form actually was the first one was when I got on I got on a hook with fabio and my brother gino you know uh huh shout out to fabio and gino I got on the hook with them and then after that I'm like boom cool in the big drift song
Starting point is 00:12:09 you're gonna record that I got locked up that day right so I didn't get on that so I was like cool bet if he played this song for me when I got out I'm like cool right we're gonna keep that due to the video it's gonna go viral because you're saying free sosa but I'm gonna be in the video so it's gonna look crazy and me then I decided I'm like you know what cool you know what I'm gonna do I'm gonna come up with not only a song but I'm gonna come up with dance for the kids. You know what I'm saying? Like spice it up a little bit
Starting point is 00:12:36 because everybody about you do the drill, okay. But now you took the drill and you put a little more instead of just putting it all drill and get a little bit in and more entertainment. Entertainment for the kids,
Starting point is 00:12:48 you know what I'm saying? So the kids want to dance want to be like, mommy, do that. You know what I'm saying? So I started to dance. Then I'm like, all right, cool. I'm gonna do. Now, I could have did the whole song by myself
Starting point is 00:12:58 but I'm like, fuck it. I'm gonna go put some other niggas, other dudes on it. from another hood again, come along with me. Go viral. So kids dancing to the Woolwalk thing, though? Is that not the kind of thing that's going to get people into certain issues and stuff? Like, if you're doing that dance, it doesn't imply that you're actually down with any particular set?
Starting point is 00:13:19 Nah, that dance is viral. That dance is viral. That dance is a movie. Everybody do that dance. Not many kids, parents see me, tell me, yo, my daughter like that dance you be doing. I mean that Right I'm the only people that's crazy and stupid
Starting point is 00:13:35 To think that Oh because you see a little kid doing that dance He potentially got to be woo Right And that's not That's not like that I didn't do it Just make it like only a woo dance
Starting point is 00:13:47 Just because it's because of the woo walk It's not only like a woo dance You know what I'm saying Right Because for a long time in New York Or in L.A It was like There's a lot of cripp walking type shit
Starting point is 00:13:58 A lot of different little dances Associated with different gangs and shit but I feel like over time this shit kind of people aren't so preoccupied with it being associated with the gang shit. Although there's a lot of people
Starting point is 00:14:09 who are upset about that they think that a lot of these dances they don't like seeing people on TikTok fucking taking their culture and sort of just making it fun and accessible for everybody. Yeah. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:14:24 So who said viral first? You don't want to kind of popularize that because it's like everybody who sees you It's like viral movie. Everybody feel those are the ad libs that people really feel that people really feel the need to kind of keep moving with. Yeah, I got tattooed my hand. Oh, there it is, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:41 It's kind of the opposite order that I say. I don't know. Usually I say viral and then movie. And then movie? Viro and the movie. You got a mouth scoffing down pills on your hand too, huh? Yeah. Respect.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Yes, sir. Right. You remember when you took your first perk? I remember when I took my first perk Yeah You take perks Ah I took one A couple times
Starting point is 00:15:06 I was a Zan head for a little bit there Zanx Yeah Maybe not a full-on Zanx head But I was fucking around A little too much for a little while That shit had you sleep right Or of
Starting point is 00:15:18 Zombied out of my mind Running around Doing crazy shit You were never on that Huh You missed the Zan wave Nah I don't follow no Zans
Starting point is 00:15:28 2015 2016? There was a lot of Zans. We're in the perk age now, though, huh? Yeah, I'm a big fan of that. So you don't remember when you took your first one? Not really. What kind of role does it play in your life these days?
Starting point is 00:15:58 Play a big role. Word. Okay, so, yeah, in terms of... I mean, I think one thing that the people at home probably really want to know about that. I don't think you spoke on interviews yet. It's just how that Drake collab came about. Drake. Yeah, how did you get in touch?
Starting point is 00:16:18 Shout out of the Drake. Drake actually started following me and reached out. Actually told me that my music was tight. My music was hard. He wanted to work. Right. That's something you guys just made it happen. You weren't in the studio with him or you guys just mailed that back and forth or?
Starting point is 00:16:36 Like, FaceTiming. He faced timing. But in terms of doing the actual song, you guys, weren't actually all in the studio together? No. Has that changed everything for you? Just that song? Just demons.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Like, everybody just, that seems like that's got to be probably one of the biggest things you've been associated with, right? Demons. I always been demon. That's what I say, free-ssociate demon. Uh-huh. A chain demon. That's what I stand for.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Right. That's probably my favorite song of that particular Drake album. Appreciate that. Right. All the songs for you, though. Oh, yeah. Of course. Um, so you were supposed to be on big drip and that didn't work out.
Starting point is 00:17:13 You feel like that was a mistake or you feel like everything sort of played out the way it was supposed to? Not played out the way it's supposed to. Probably that's my brother. I love him. Uh-huh. So it played out exactly right. That's good. Um, how'd your Instagram get deleted?
Starting point is 00:17:30 What happened with that? I recall viewing it at a different point. I had way more followers or some shit. Yeah. They took that from me? Yeah, they fucked me over. Who did it? And what were you doing on there?
Starting point is 00:17:40 I don't know what happened. I want on my page one day and shit. I sent me an email saying that my shit was deleted. Right, just gone. So you just had to start rebuilding from nothing? Yep, all the way from nothing. Came back. Instagram.
Starting point is 00:18:05 I think I had this Instagram for like, how long did I have this on? Four five months. Uh-huh. It's tough. It's tough restarting, huh? Fuck it though Um Shit
Starting point is 00:18:27 So what do you got going on lately and stuff? It feels like Was demons like the last big release that you had? You put on in videos, you hyped on sense? No more songs coming out A whole lot of songs coming out A whole lot of artists Stay tuned
Starting point is 00:18:44 A lot of social drop I think it dropped I think the other social video Drop in the next like Well we in LA So I think for me is like in the next hour. Wow, really?
Starting point is 00:18:57 Yeah, a little source of video about the drop on World Star. Oh, shit. Then my tape dropping, like, 16 days after that. Stay tuned for that. Got mad shit on there, man. Songs.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Man, a couple features, not that many. Like, three big features. I ain't going to say who they are. Just go. A couple people know. They know. But... You can't tip us off?
Starting point is 00:19:21 New York artists? Yeah. I'm in New York. Nah, I'm in the yorkans. Okay. What are you trying to do with this tape, though? You feel like this is like the first real take that you put out that actually... Nah, there's going to be a tape called Geekmo, you know?
Starting point is 00:19:42 I ain't ever... I got a couple songs with a couple people, you know, Drake, you know, viral. You got a different song with Drake on there? No. Oh. To my dad's song, my dad Demas. Okay. You got a song with Drake.
Starting point is 00:19:54 A couple more songs, a couple songs about myself. But now I'm going to give the world, like, like... like five songs really by myself, geek mode, basically showing that like any style, any flow, I could do any way, versatile, any way, any type. That's how I'm doing it. That's how I'm coming. You feel like the people haven't really seen where you're capable of in terms of different styles of you're capable of? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Nah, I feel like they know what I'm capable of because they see it every day on Instagram and live and all that shit. but when you really sit back and really hear these songs, what I'm saying? And then you really sit back and watch my Instagram and you watch me, you're going to probably get a better really, really understanding what the fuck I'm going on with me. Right. That's good. So what do you like to do when you're out here in L.A.?
Starting point is 00:20:44 Smoking big, big gas. That's what I like to do. Smoke big gas. Get money. New York's been kind of shut down. Yeah, New York. you actually see you right now that's why you have to get out or you you you feel like you want to stay the fuck out of there while all this shit there's locked down in the city or
Starting point is 00:21:16 yeah we're gonna go back while city lot hmm so were you just staying out here to make the city hot you're staying out here though you're trying to avoid going back no of course I'm gonna go back all right man if I were you I would just stay the fuck out here it's just a lot less shut down here still kind of shut down here still kind of shut down Word. Okay, so you got the tape on the way. New videos dropping. Anything else we should be looking out for?
Starting point is 00:21:50 Tape. Video. More interviews. Shit. I'm out of it right now. We're about to get back on my show shit. Coronavirus is fucking on my shows. I got to get back on shows.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Yeah, it's tough. I ain't making no show money. A lot of people ain't really trying. to put on shows at this point. Yeah. No show money, my money getting short. For real? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:19 I didn't even know that it's possible. I see you coming through with this much money. I figured there's no way this is going to run out. What is that? How do you feel about people who are... 14. We got the loads in the game. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:32 I just posted up you and Chapa on my story, and I immediately had a lot of people who were like, don't call him Sosa. Chief Keefe is Sosa. Sosa. You feel like there's any kind of conflict there in terms of there being multiple Sosa's in the game? No. Chief Keith is, Chief Keefe, Sosa is Sosa Geek. That's all my name is Sosa Geek. It's only one in me. It's only one in him. Right. I don't know what the people talk about. Right. You a key fan though? Huh? I photo a couple of chief songs. I grew up listening chief. I ain't going to lie. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Respect. A lot of people did. Yeah. Myself. My late 20s, but still a lot of Chief Keefe Shit, okay, anything else we should talk about? I mean what you're talking about? You know? Shit, where can I get a chrome heart shirt like that? I'm trying to drip man I think this is one-on-one in Vegas You got it in Vegas? Yeah They say Los Vegas on the back, right? It does, that's true
Starting point is 00:23:39 Welcome to fabulous Las Vegas. It says fuck you on the sleeve too? Yeah. So it does. All right. So's a geek. Much love. Appreciate you coming on the show. There it is.
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