No Jumper - The Sosa Geek Interview: Becoming Woo, Pop Smoke & Fivio Foreign Relationships
Episode Date: August 22, 2020Sosa Geek talks about Fivio Foreign, Pop Smoke, Drake and doesn't want to be compared to Chief Keef. ----- FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jump...er/4874336901 FOLLOW OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/529mn7of2HBKdLfrAMUzcK?si=rWVBWCuWSXeh0TFYb2P-dQ CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/nojumper iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/no-jumper/id1001659715?mt=2 Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/No-Jumper-198283650194402/ http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 and adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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No Jumper, coolest podcast on the world, and today we got the one and only,
Sosa Geek, on the show.
How you feeling, man?
Vowal.
Viral.
Borrow.
Borrow.
Let's do it.
Movie.
Big Woods on deck.
Nice to have me on the show, man.
I feel like every once in a while he meets somebody who just kind of like encapsulates the
energy of their city.
And when I watch you in videos and shit, I'm like, man, that's the most Brooklyn
motherfucker I've seen in a minute.
So, nice to have the energy on the show, man.
Yes, sir.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
So tell me a little bit about your upbringing.
Brownsville?
Brownsville.
Born in Brownsville?
Yeah.
What was it like as a kid?
Tell me about it.
Dangerous.
Dangerous.
Viral.
Got to make it out.
Only one survive.
You might not make it.
Right.
But, you know,
every part of his hood,
got his good part too, you know.
Right.
So what were your parents like?
What kind of housing situation you grew up in?
Right.
Projects.
Nothing crazy.
I done a project, you know.
Right.
I remember I used to go to Brownsville, like, multiple different times to watch the
homie try to jump over this one rail outside of Dunkin' Donuts.
What?
Just over and over we were out there.
I never saw anything too crazy, but you could definitely tell it goes down over there.
Mm-hmm.
So talk to me about your childhood.
What was it like, man?
Like, how, what was a young sociague getting into around the streets of Brooklyn?
Let me see.
Yeah, I was always like an entertainer.
Like people always loved me.
Right.
You feel me? Like I always was like a person that always had like a different type of shit going on.
Like I had my own different shit going on.
Nakes could we do with something, but I'll be doing something totally different.
I got my whole different type of vibe going on.
Pulling up places like the energy making my, like when I pull up the energy change, you know?
Like an energy get a little better, different.
So I always had that.
I also had like a lot of hate it too like that.
Because you know like the shit I do like I do like I don't know what it is.
I guess it's just like I am the shit I do people who hate.
I don't know.
You're a hot boy.
You get attention wherever you go.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I hate me.
Maybe they can't do what I do.
You got to catch up.
I don't know.
There's a lot of pressure to fit in when you're a young kid in a dangerous city like New York, right?
Yeah.
So if you're somebody who got it in you to, you know, be out here like,
like really acting like yourself having your own slang your own dances or on whatever the
fuck it is i mean it's gonna make you stand out it's like some people are gonna love you for that
some people are absolutely hate you for that right yeah that's facts so uh were you
interested in music what what kind of music was the sound of new york city during your childhood
like what what let's do a lot yeah who you listened to um really grown up a lot
to like NBA young boy that was like that was like that was like that's a
That's only been a couple years.
I'm talking about, like, coming up.
You didn't have a G-unit phase.
You too young for that?
You had a dipset phase?
Yeah.
You didn't have a main-o phase?
Yeah, this is a couple dipset G-unit, you know, 50.
Shout out of the 50.
Okay.
But what was, like, your favorite shit that, like, made you...
I don't know.
You weren't that big of a music head?
Yeah, but you wasn't...
You were just around?
Yeah, it wasn't around.
Like, no, I wasn't just around, but I wasn't, like...
You weren't like super, you weren't like the rap nerd that we kind of like, you know, us in like the rap media, we kind of like expect the rappers to be as like equally nerdy study in the rap game.
Yes, sir, in the rap game.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying?
Me, nah.
No.
It's just natural for me.
That's crazy.
So, all right.
For real.
Yeah.
So when did you like start to, uh, I don't know, like, how old are you right now?
23.
23.
So you graduate, you graduate high school?
No, I got my GED
You did
Oh, that's interesting
I was just talking
I was just talking to Ellie chop
He was saying the same thing
His mom made him get the GED
Even though he's blown up as a rapper
GD very poor
Yep
You used it for anything
Mm
You're GED
Has it come into play at all
Do I have to use it
Yeah
Has it like
Impacted your life anyway
Nah
Not really
Not so much
Nah
Okay
So how do you
How'd you get interested
And rapping and shit
When did it
become anything in your head or how did you even start to get a name before that because you're
acting like you you had like a identity going on for sure before you were actually making music right
yeah like people knew who i was yes so you're saying so when you start when you decide to rap
like what was it going on that you felt was going to take you in that direction um
i mean like i said i always like was a creative shit invented shit doing different shit just like
I guess once people start like really rapping around me and shit like that I'm like
yo listen if I got out of jail I'm like yo I gotta find a new way you feel what I'm saying
find out my talent what I like to do other than staying on the streets being in the street
naga wild and I got to find out something else I could better myself people like me okay cool
so let me use that to my advantage just figure out now how I can make them more like me
and how I could get paid off of them liking me right so I just thought it
Going around people, you know what I'm saying?
Going around certain peers, my friends and shit.
Shout out to 504.
Going around, I'm like, yo, bro, listen.
This is what we about to do.
Boom, boom.
I'm going to bring the energy.
We're going to do it like this, woo-woo.
And we're going to go viral, if I'm saying.
So what were you locked up for that time that you're referring to?
What was I locked up for?
Yeah.
I think.
Reckless endangerment.
Reckless endangerment.
So what would you do?
What I do?
You didn't do nothing.
Well, okay, what they think you did?
I don't know.
He said something about somebody in shootings or something.
I don't know.
Some shit like that.
You didn't shoot anybody though?
Nah.
No.
Liars.
Try to put that dirt on your name.
Yeah, they always try to put dirt on your name.
They try to bring you down.
But, got to go up.
You got to go up.
So how long you know, I fought before?
A couple years.
Okay.
That's crazy.
So you guys from the same neighborhood?
How did you guys meet you guys?
Yeah, not that far.
Right.
But he'd been rapping a long time, though.
I've seen some videos for him rapping back in the day.
Yeah.
I just only been rap for about, like, seven months.
Seven months now?
Yeah.
That's crazy.
You know, it's crazy.
Everybody I speak to say that.
They say, yo, bro, you've been around for seven months.
You're that far already.
That's what I'm saying.
Like, it's what I'm saying.
Like, it really wasn't, like, this wasn't, like, really my plans.
Right.
Like, you're saying, this is all natural really being me, just really being myself.
Like, the shit I rap about, it's really, like,
shit that I go through every day, shit that I do.
If you really listen to the shit, I'm saying,
it's really my lifestyle.
That's why I feel like people attract to it so much
because it's really everything that I'm really saying
and really going through.
That's why I feel like people hate me so much
because they're like, yo, damn.
Just thinking everything he wraps about,
he's really dead-ass doing.
And dead-ass, like, making it visual to people.
Like, if I'm talking about spinning $20,000,
I'm really spoken about spending $20,000,
I'm really showing $20,000.
I'm talking about buying jewelry,
I'm really buying juries,
like, it's not like I'm just,
saying these things, I'm doing these things,
and presenting these things to people.
So they're like, you know what can we do?
How can we stop them?
A lot of rappers, too.
You gotta think about it too.
Independently, no deal.
People think about that.
Rap out of Brooklyn, 23 years old, song with Drake,
no deal, independent, walk around,
a bunch of jury traveling the world, racks on every day.
Got to think like what the hell is going on.
So anybody I think like, yo, what the hell?
A lot of rappers rap about drank.
They don't even be having drank.
on no jumper with a drink.
Oh yeah, lean.
Oh yeah, we stay with lean.
Right.
State to state with it.
Nobody in New York got drank, right?
I don't know about New York.
If I go to New York, I'm going to have drink.
It's hard, though.
I heard that there's no more lean prices.
It's just an auction every time now.
Whoever's willing to pay the most gets it.
We're going to make sure we got it, though.
We're going to make sure we got it.
Right.
Okay, so when did you become Wu?
Where did this come around?
I need an explanation because, like, also, you're a blood, right?
Yeah. So we need the explanation about how this works exactly.
What you need?
I need to know how there can be cribs and blurs that are both Wu.
How they can be Chris and blus.
It's not a conflict of interest.
I mean, it's not, woo, it's not like a gang.
It's a family shit.
Uh-huh.
So, what I'm saying?
It's not considered like who it doesn't matter.
Okay.
Like I'm saying.
When did you get into that, when you get put down with that?
When I get down with that?
Yeah, when you become Wu?
I was born and raising that.
Okay.
When did you start verbalizing it like that, though?
And, like, actually claiming it.
Like, you always, like, that was just a day where you grew up in, or what?
Yeah, it's the area I grew up in, neighborhood grew up in.
That's the little, click, the little, you know, family we had going on.
Right.
See, we'll, that's just for we on our own.
Just a couple bunch of young niggas that was really on our own trying to make it out.
Right.
Is that a big part of what made you want to start making music, though, is that people,
you wanted to be the one representing that.
to the people out there there's obviously a big appetite for people want to hear about the gang
shit and on youtube and in rap in general yeah so um early on how'd you meet pop because he's like the main
dude who really kind of took the woo thing to a totally different level in terms of uh making
it out there on a more mainstream level yeah god that's how do i meet him in brook him in the in the hood
Right. Because I've seen in the Wu War video, he's just like, he's in the in the intro real quick.
That's the day I told him to pull up.
I actually shot that video in the same hood that he's from.
Really?
Yeah, I'm from Brownville.
Mm-hmm.
I shot that video on the floor seat.
Okay.
So you feel like you have a connection between the two?
Is there a lot of love between the two neighborhoods?
I wanted to show my love and shit.
Like, no matter anywhere I go, anywhere I go, my energy going to remain the same.
I'm going to go viral anywhere.
So you know what I'm saying?
Right.
So I decided to go out of Brownsville for a second and go to another peoplehood, you know.
They're around the same people we're around.
They got, you know, problems with tensive with the same people we do.
That's all come together.
I'm going to go over there and go viral too.
Come over.
Mind you, all on Crip, I'm blood.
Right.
I'm like, yo, fuck it, I'm still going to go over there and shoot the video.
So there's never any tension about that?
The Wu thing, like, overrides any of the blood and crypt shit?
No.
Never had a hard time about it?
Mm-mm.
Is that the shit all the same when you go to prison in New York?
I mean, you hear a lot about how, like, politics in L.A. and shit, it changes.
Like, people get locked up in L.A.
And just, like, immediately, all the gang affiliation kind of goes to the sides.
And people sort of, like, group themselves based on different things.
Is it the same shit out there?
I mean, not, not really.
It's just whoever you got problems with type shit.
Uh-huh.
That's who you got problems with.
it's not like anything else
if you could get what I'm saying
word so the woo walk thing though
like that was that like your first
song that really made people start paying attention that was the one that you felt like
actually kind of took the movement and encapsulated the form
actually was the first one
was when I got on
I got on a hook with fabio and my brother gino
you know
uh huh shout out to fabio and gino
I got on the hook with them and then after that I'm like boom cool in the big drift song
you're gonna record that I got locked up that day right so I didn't get on that
so I was like cool bet if he played this song for me when I got out I'm like cool right we're
gonna keep that due to the video it's gonna go viral because you're saying free sosa but I'm
gonna be in the video so it's gonna look crazy and me then I decided I'm like you know what cool
you know what I'm gonna do I'm gonna come up with not only a song but I'm gonna come up with
dance for the kids.
You know what I'm saying?
Like spice it up a little bit
because everybody about you do the drill,
okay.
But now you took the drill
and you put a little more
instead of just putting it all drill
and get a little bit
in and more entertainment.
Entertainment for the kids,
you know what I'm saying?
So the kids want to dance
want to be like, mommy, do that.
You know what I'm saying?
So I started to dance.
Then I'm like, all right, cool.
I'm gonna do.
Now, I could have did the whole song by myself
but I'm like, fuck it.
I'm gonna go put some other niggas,
other dudes on it.
from another hood again, come along with me.
Go viral.
So kids dancing to the Woolwalk thing, though?
Is that not the kind of thing that's going to get people into certain issues and stuff?
Like, if you're doing that dance, it doesn't imply that you're actually down with any particular set?
Nah, that dance is viral.
That dance is viral.
That dance is a movie.
Everybody do that dance.
Not many kids, parents see me, tell me, yo, my daughter like that dance you be doing.
I mean that
Right
I'm the only people that's crazy and stupid
To think that
Oh because you see a little kid doing that dance
He potentially got to be woo
Right
And that's not
That's not like that
I didn't do it
Just make it like only a woo dance
Just because it's because of the woo walk
It's not only like a woo dance
You know what I'm saying
Right
Because for a long time in New York
Or in L.A
It was like
There's a lot of cripp walking type shit
A lot of different little dances
Associated with different gangs and shit
but I feel like over time
this shit kind of
people aren't so preoccupied
with it being associated
with the gang shit.
Although there's a lot of people
who are upset about that
they think that a lot of these dances
they don't like seeing people on TikTok
fucking taking their culture
and sort of just making it fun
and accessible for everybody.
Yeah.
Hmm.
So who said viral first?
You don't want to kind of popularize that
because it's like everybody who sees you
It's like viral movie.
Everybody feel those are the ad libs that people really feel
that people really feel the need to kind of keep moving with.
Yeah, I got tattooed my hand.
Oh, there it is, yeah.
It's kind of the opposite order that I say.
I don't know.
Usually I say viral and then movie.
And then movie?
Viro and the movie.
You got a mouth scoffing down pills on your hand too, huh?
Yeah.
Respect.
Yes, sir.
Right.
You remember when you took your first perk?
I remember when I took my first perk
Yeah
You take perks
Ah I took one
A couple times
I was a Zan head for a little bit there
Zanx
Yeah
Maybe not a full-on Zanx head
But I was fucking around
A little too much for a little while
That shit had you sleep right
Or of
Zombied out of my mind
Running around
Doing crazy shit
You were never on that
Huh
You missed the Zan wave
Nah
I don't follow no Zans
2015
2016?
There was a lot of Zans.
We're in the perk age now, though, huh?
Yeah, I'm a big fan of that.
So you don't remember when you took your first one?
Not really.
What kind of role does it play in your life these days?
Play a big role.
Word.
Okay, so, yeah, in terms of...
I mean, I think one thing that the people at home
probably really want to know about that. I don't think you spoke on interviews yet.
It's just how that Drake collab came about.
Drake.
Yeah, how did you get in touch?
Shout out of the Drake.
Drake actually started following me and reached out.
Actually told me that my music was tight.
My music was hard.
He wanted to work.
Right.
That's something you guys just made it happen.
You weren't in the studio with him or you guys just mailed that back and forth or?
Like, FaceTiming.
He faced timing.
But in terms of doing the actual song, you guys,
weren't actually all in the studio together?
No.
Has that changed everything for you?
Just that song?
Just demons.
Like, everybody just, that seems like that's got to be probably one of the biggest things
you've been associated with, right?
Demons.
I always been demon.
That's what I say, free-ssociate demon.
Uh-huh.
A chain demon.
That's what I stand for.
Right.
That's probably my favorite song of that particular Drake album.
Appreciate that.
Right.
All the songs for you, though.
Oh, yeah.
Of course.
Um, so you were supposed to be on big drip and that didn't work out.
You feel like that was a mistake or you feel like everything sort of played out the way it was supposed to?
Not played out the way it's supposed to.
Probably that's my brother.
I love him.
Uh-huh.
So it played out exactly right.
That's good.
Um, how'd your Instagram get deleted?
What happened with that?
I recall viewing it at a different point.
I had way more followers or some shit.
Yeah.
They took that from me?
Yeah, they fucked me over.
Who did it?
And what were you doing on there?
I don't know what happened.
I want on my page one day and shit.
I sent me an email saying that my shit was deleted.
Right, just gone.
So you just had to start rebuilding from nothing?
Yep, all the way from nothing.
Came back.
Instagram.
I think I had this Instagram for like, how long did I have this on?
Four five months.
Uh-huh.
It's tough.
It's tough restarting, huh?
Fuck it though
Um
Shit
So what do you got going on lately and stuff?
It feels like
Was demons like the last big release that you had?
You put on in videos, you hyped on sense?
No more songs coming out
A whole lot of songs coming out
A whole lot of artists
Stay tuned
A lot of social drop
I think it dropped
I think the other social video
Drop in the next like
Well we in LA
So I think for me is like
in the next hour.
Wow, really?
Yeah, a little source of video
about the drop on World Star.
Oh, shit.
Then my tape dropping, like,
16 days after that.
Stay tuned for that.
Got mad shit on there, man.
Songs.
Man, a couple features, not that many.
Like, three big features.
I ain't going to say who they are.
Just go.
A couple people know.
They know.
But...
You can't tip us off?
New York artists?
Yeah.
I'm in New York.
Nah, I'm in the yorkans.
Okay.
What are you trying to do with this tape, though?
You feel like this is like the first real take that you put out that actually...
Nah, there's going to be a tape called Geekmo, you know?
I ain't ever...
I got a couple songs with a couple people, you know, Drake, you know, viral.
You got a different song with Drake on there?
No.
Oh.
To my dad's song, my dad Demas.
Okay.
You got a song with Drake.
A couple more songs, a couple songs about myself.
But now I'm going to give the world, like, like...
like five songs really by myself, geek mode, basically showing that like any style, any flow,
I could do any way, versatile, any way, any type.
That's how I'm doing it.
That's how I'm coming.
You feel like the people haven't really seen where you're capable of in terms of different styles of you're capable of?
Yeah.
Nah, I feel like they know what I'm capable of because they see it every day on Instagram and live and all that shit.
but when you really sit back and really hear these songs, what I'm saying?
And then you really sit back and watch my Instagram and you watch me,
you're going to probably get a better really, really understanding
what the fuck I'm going on with me.
Right.
That's good.
So what do you like to do when you're out here in L.A.?
Smoking big, big gas.
That's what I like to do.
Smoke big gas.
Get money.
New York's been kind of shut down.
Yeah, New York.
you actually see you right now that's why you have to get out or you you you feel like you
want to stay the fuck out of there while all this shit there's locked down in the city or
yeah we're gonna go back while city lot hmm so were you just staying out here to make the city hot
you're staying out here though you're trying to avoid going back no of course I'm gonna go
back all right man if I were you I would just stay the fuck out here it's just a lot less
shut down here still kind of shut down here still kind of shut down
Word.
Okay, so you got the tape on the way.
New videos dropping.
Anything else we should be looking out for?
Tape.
Video.
More interviews.
Shit.
I'm out of it right now.
We're about to get back on my show shit.
Coronavirus is fucking on my shows.
I got to get back on shows.
Yeah, it's tough.
I ain't making no show money.
A lot of people ain't really trying.
to put on shows at this point.
Yeah.
No show money, my money getting short.
For real?
Yeah.
I didn't even know that it's possible.
I see you coming through with this much money.
I figured there's no way this is going to run out.
What is that?
How do you feel about people who are...
14.
We got the loads in the game.
Right.
I just posted up you and Chapa on my story,
and I immediately had a lot of people who were like,
don't call him Sosa.
Chief Keefe is Sosa.
Sosa. You feel like there's any kind of conflict there in terms of there being multiple Sosa's in the game?
No. Chief Keith is, Chief Keefe, Sosa is Sosa Geek. That's all my name is Sosa Geek. It's only one in me. It's only one in him.
Right. I don't know what the people talk about. Right. You a key fan though?
Huh? I photo a couple of chief songs. I grew up listening chief. I ain't going to lie. Right.
Respect. A lot of people did. Yeah. Myself.
My late 20s, but still a lot of Chief Keefe
Shit, okay, anything else we should talk about?
I mean what you're talking about? You know?
Shit, where can I get a chrome heart shirt like that? I'm trying to drip man
I think this is one-on-one in Vegas
You got it in Vegas? Yeah
They say Los Vegas on the back, right? It does, that's true
Welcome to fabulous Las Vegas. It says fuck you on the sleeve too?
Yeah.
So it does.
All right.
So's a geek.
Much love.
Appreciate you coming on the show.
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