No Jumper - The Swifty Blue Interview: Coming Up in LA, Doing Time, Ohgeesy & Mr Criminal Beefs & More
Episode Date: October 21, 2021Swifty Blue talks about his upbringing, street politics, relationship with Desto Dubb, Trapzila and more! ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST h...ttps://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world, and today I'm in here with Swifty Blue.
How are you feeling, man?
Whoa.
I'm feeling good.
Nice to have you in here, man.
I'm excited.
Excited.
Excited.
That's what I like.
Yes, sir.
I noticed you came in with a blunt and you already faced it, and now you're on your second blunt.
So just...
I was nervous.
Were you really?
Yeah, man.
Some people come in here and they have a blunt and you can see them, like, cradling it and keeping it
because they want to start getting high immediately as the podcast starts, but you already smoked one
and you had another one ready.
Shit, I could have bought a pound or two on a, I don't know.
You know, I didn't even know I could smoke in the room, so I'm just like, you know?
Yeah, no, we encourage that.
Okay, cool.
Hell yeah.
Yeah, cigarettes, whatever.
Had a couple people snort some coke on here over the years.
We don't have to worry about that with you.
Nah, my nose got fucked up, so I don't fuck with the coke.
My nose fucked up.
You fucked it up doing drugs?
Fighting.
Yeah, I'm like, shit, you know?
Got socked up a couple times, sock up of people up, shit like that.
So you did a lot of fighting as a young man, or is this recent?
in the hood and shit.
Motherfucked up.
Really?
It looks fine, though.
You got broken?
No, it healed up,
but like, if you look at it this way,
you can see it's like that.
Oh, okay.
It's kind of indented on that side.
Yeah, you know, yeah.
So my shit is standing,
you know what I'm saying?
I can't do no coke.
That's your go right through it.
So you would do coke
if your nose hadn't been injured?
Shit, why not?
Why not?
No, I wouldn't do it, but, you know what I'm saying?
No, I wouldn't do it, but straight.
No, I wouldn't do it.
I'm thinking, I'm like,
I don't know if that's a good.
There's enough reason for most people.
I've known people who got someone to doing Coke
that they ended up having to put special,
almost like lubricant in their nose
to like keep the Coke moving through smoothly
because it would be getting caught up on the inside
and doing damage to them and stuff.
People are dedicated.
Yeah, I got a showing of 28.
You're going to turn up?
So you're telling all the people?
At the Roxy.
Oh.
You trying to tell us something?
No, I'm just saying.
Like, shit,
That's a cool place to go do your Coke, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, yeah.
Seems like a great spot.
No, we don't promote no coke, but, you know, we got a show popping.
Right.
Yeah, so that's lit.
You ever have a fan run up on you who is clearly, like, suffering from having done a lot of Coke?
I don't think so.
No?
Are you on high alert for that?
You ever have a zanned up fan?
Because I get that too.
Oh, yeah, I had some zooted fans.
Zooted.
And that's a weird feeling sometimes for me.
It's like I stop into a show on like a Wednesday afternoon.
No, Wednesday night.
And I'm sober.
And I got people running down on me who are just like fried.
Yeah, you know, sometimes you just like went out of time.
Yeah.
You smoke some weed first or something.
You're telling me you want to chill out a little bit, but they ain't trying to hear it.
Definitely.
All right.
So you're from Paramount?
Paramount East Side.
Tell me a little bit about it.
I used to live out in Long Beach.
So it's kind of like one of those areas around there.
Five, six two area.
Yeah.
I'm a five, six two guy.
In between Compton, Long Beach.
Beach, Bellflower, Linwood Downey, on that side.
Right. So what was your upbringing like? Tell me a little bit about growing up out there.
You know, it's like, shit, just like regular L.A. shit, any hood in L.A., just, you know,
and it's kind of active on that side of town, just like any other side of town over here.
So it was pretty, it was pretty fun, pretty hectic, you know.
Right. Yeah.
What kind of parents do you have grown up?
I got real old school traditional parents, real old school, Hispanic traditional.
You know, like, you know, like, like, they strict on everything.
Hmm.
So they wanted you to do good in school?
Was that, like, the emphasis, or strict in what way?
Yeah, for sure.
You know, they want you to try to just be straight-edge and stuff.
Okay, really.
So you never saw them drinking or smoking or anything like that?
Shit, um, Pops used to drink, but he stopped drinking because he drank too much.
Really?
Yeah, you know, fucked up his liver.
So then he stopped drinking.
So, but he was, like, they've always been kind of like, you know,
you know, like tough on the kids and shit.
Right.
How many brothers and sisters?
I got one older brother, I got four sisters.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
Damn.
So, okay, but growing up around there, like, what?
My brother's in the pen.
When did he get locked up?
He been, uh, shit.
He got busted, like, back in 1990, and he was down.
He came home, and he got, he went down again.
And he just fucking up.
Where would they get him for?
Shit, really, like, he was just fucking,
up the last the last one i think was like
fucking like
like uh
like home invasion or something like that okay yeah
and he's been gone for like 20 years basically
well yeah he did he was down he was down for like 12
came home went down went down again and
and he was in and out since now he's just down fighting this case
how is that for you do that honestly like at first
at first i wanted my brother out here
and shit like wanted him work with me and you know like
but now it's just like damn this is my
he fucking up like shit you know what I was you in 99 like I was born 95 oh shit okay
so he was down since I was young I was like four five years old right so you never really got to
know him as like a brother yeah like like shit I'll go visit him in jail and then when he came home
we was uh we was running around together but just uh yeah he went back to jail so and then I was
I was gonna keep fucking up too so you know I couldn't do much to help him right did that in any way like
What did that do to your brain just seeing somebody that you love being taken from you?
Like, how did that make you think about crime?
Like, as an adult, I would see that and think, oh, like, you would probably be thinking about not wanting to get in trouble or not wanting to get in the crime because you've seen your brother locked up.
I'm guessing it didn't have that effect on you.
No, you know what?
It didn't and it didn't.
It did as in like, shit.
I'm like, I want to, I want to end up in jail like my brother.
I want to just follow footsteps.
But then, like, shit, that's it.
I'll follow my brother footsteps regardless.
I still did the same exact dumb shit he did.
When it got put onto the hood and just, you know, start running streets.
But, you know, at least now I realize it.
Right.
Definitely.
Let me ask you something.
Where you grew up, was it like a strictly Hispanic area?
Or were there a lot of black and white people around as well?
You know what?
It's half and half.
Okay.
But you don't really see the white people outside too much.
Really?
They're just driving around and their Teslas.
Nice whips.
Nice houses.
Right.
Uh-huh.
You know.
So you didn't really like have to see them that much?
There's a few, you know, there's a few people like, like a couple of motherfuckers to be outside.
And they be chilling with the hump.
I got a couple of white homies from the hood.
You know what I'm saying?
My hood is one of a few hoods.
And there's a lot of hoods out here.
But you got like, like, a lot of Chicanos.
Like I got a lot of like white folks, this Mexican-American, you know, or whatever.
Or just, or even white folks running.
with the homies, you know?
Right.
Yeah. Interesting.
Were you, but did you see it as like you were beefing with white people or black people
as a young person?
Like, did you see it as split up that way?
Well, you know what the thing about Paramount is, well, at least on the east side, I can only
speak from my side.
We, there's only one black neighborhood in the city of Paramar, and we don't really have
too much problems with them.
So we never really had too many problems with black.
You probably have more problems with the blacks.
Like in Compton, they beefed more with Hispanics.
and in Long Beach, but in Paramount, it wasn't too much.
Like, on the other side, yeah, you know,
they didn't fuck with the blacks period,
like on other side of town,
but that was the other side of town.
On us, we didn't really have that problem.
We had white, I got a couple of black homies from my hood
and a couple white folks from my hood,
but, you know, but there's always going to be that division,
you know, when you go to jail,
they separate everybody and, you know, like, shit.
You know, you run with your peoples.
Right.
But would you say that there was more violence
between Hispanic people
rather than against other races?
Yeah, there's a lot of violence within the own race.
Yeah, for so, no doubt, yeah.
That's how most of it goes down.
Yeah, no, my neighborhood, yeah, we've always just gone out
with other Hispanic neighborhoods.
And, yeah.
For sure.
Okay, so what was your...
We got out with, yeah, we are.
That's about it.
You get done with who?
Spill the beans.
Well, stupid young.
No, I'm saying, I don't fuck with you.
You fuck with stupid young, or did you have problems with him at one point?
Well, he's for Long Beach, man.
Right.
He's from the other side of town.
Oh, okay.
That's the other side of the same.
Yeah, we don't really fuck with them, but that's just like the street shit, you know?
Okay.
Yeah, like music is different.
So do you fuck with him now that you're a rapper?
No, I would just, I just, like, you know, I don't really fuck with, like, neighborhoods I don't really get along with.
I just stay away from that, you know, just to avoid the politics.
Okay.
Yeah.
So you never ran into him or met up with him?
No, I ran into him, but yeah, but like, we ain't ever made no music and none of that.
But were you able to be, like, respectful when you guys saw each other?
Yeah, you know, my business.
Like, shit, I'm 25 now.
I'm 26.
I just turned 26 last month.
So I'm, I got kids.
I move like a businessman, so I ain't really set tripping.
But, you know, like, like, oh, shit.
Probably like five years ago, I probably would have, you know?
Yeah, like, been tripping.
Like, let me snatch his chain and some other shit.
But now, like, I'm, now I'm chilling.
You know, I move casual, real respectful, you know?
Right.
Yeah.
So there's hoods that you guys have beef with that are like 20 miles away from you
that you, like, basically never have to see?
Man.
Yeah, for shit.
We got a chapter out in Riverside, and we're from Paramount.
That's an hour away.
Right.
So we had neighborhoods out there that didn't fuck with my neighborhood, shit like that.
But you coming up as a young man and stuff, would you, like, not go to Long Beach?
Like, Long Beach is just like...
Well, yeah, you know, I'll probably be...
You know, I choose, like, I'll stay in my...
Like, I'm not going to go eat over here in Compton where my enemies be.
I'm not going to go over there, be in Cambodia town where all the Asians be, and they fucking hate Mexicans or whatever.
You know what I'm saying?
Mm-hmm.
You know, like the agent, or whatever, like, or go over there where we beef with the long-goes or something.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm not going to go over there.
Right.
I'd rather go eat in Paramount and Landra Hawkins in my hood, Tams in my hood, you know.
Or shit, fuck it.
Let me go.
Let me go to Cerritos where ain't no fucking nobody, no other hood.
You know what I'm saying?
You got, try to play safe out here.
Ain't nobody bulletproof.
Where would you guys typically, like, run into each other, though?
It would be, like, at the mall or the movies or party or some shit like that.
Like, shit.
Because these days everything's so online that I feel like you don't even.
You gotta see each other like that.
The few times I ran into like, for example, young, I ran into the first time at the studio, second time at the Wii shop.
You know what I'm saying?
Other than that, like, I ran into a couple motherfuckers in the streets and the hoods and shit, you know what I'm saying?
But it just depends.
It depends, you know, like, where you be at, you know what I'm saying?
Like, I'm not going to catch you fucking over there in Long Beach or something, kicking in the northside or something.
I'm not going to catch you over there.
I'll go Long Beach.
Yeah, you will, but it's not.
Northside Long Beach.
I'll be at the skate park.
Yeah, but you get what I'm saying?
Like, it's not like, it's not regular.
Like I'm not going to, yeah, like, so it's like, you're not going to, yeah, so it's like, I'm going to go somewhere we're just like, you know, I'm moving accordingly and shit.
Right.
I'm not going to go out of bounds and shit.
I mean, ideal situation.
I would.
I would.
I don't care.
But why do that?
You might catch me over there, but.
But in the long run, like the bigger you get as a rapper, I feel like if you become like a really big rapper, do you feel like those tensions get worse or that they kind of go away?
It just depends.
It depends.
It depends.
It depends.
It depends.
You know what I'm saying?
Because sometimes I see like
Because you can make money with motherfuckers
But it just
You know
It just really depends you know
It really depends
You know a lot of times you have big influence
But but at the same time
It's like it's pros and cons
But okay even if you
Even if you just happen to see
Stupid Young and you guys just
Hit it off
You just were so cool
You guys were like really feeling each other
Made some music together whatever
Would it still probably not happen
Because you would be under such pressure
From people from your neighborhood
it to be like not fucking with somebody from over there?
You know what?
And stuff like that.
Sometimes you'll make the decision like, you know what?
Just to avoid all these motherfuckers trying to give me problems.
And I just stay away, you know what I'm saying?
Like, yeah, I'd rather not do music with this person.
But, you know, like, I'm not going to lie.
Like, shit.
I already had homies tell me like, hey, man, go get your bag.
Go get your money.
You do whatever makes the money come.
You know what I'm saying?
And we worry about the rest later.
But at the same time, I just know, like, just like our people telling me, go ahead.
I'm going to have people like, oh, you can't do that.
You know?
Right.
People trying to.
I feel like it's always the old heads that are a little bit more,
get your money, build a business.
It's always the knuckleheads.
That want to start problems.
The knuckleheads, whether it's older folk or younger cat, you know, it's a knucklehead.
Yeah, people that really don't even have, like, hope that they're going to be something better.
You don't got nothing going on, so you're in the next man's business.
Yeah.
You see that all the time.
Yeah, you know.
And now people can start a YouTube channel and just, like, try to make a little business out of having opinions.
Right.
Right.
Shit crazy.
Shit crazy.
Okay, so paint the picture for me of what it was like going to high school and shit for you.
So we don't, hold on, hold on, my bad.
I was thinking about something real quick.
On the 28, we're going to have suede and peso.
We're going to have C&G.
We're going to have a couple of dope artists.
Let's go.
We had Pesol in here the other day with TribeZilla.
Yeah.
Yeah, I've seen that.
Yeah.
I've seen that.
How do you know?
I was going to pull up with the homies, but I'm not going to lie.
I was, I was busy.
I was running around.
I was running around.
Okay.
How do you know them dudes, though?
Trab.
Trabzil.
He's been doing this shit for a long time.
Right.
When he's stuff for a long time.
Shit from the music to the streets.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
So, so for so he tapped in.
We got to tap in with track.
You know, you got to be tapped in.
People are fucking with him.
His interview?
He was hyped.
Like, it did hell good with the views and shit.
And, like, people seem like they really appreciate what he had to say.
No, he's dope, and he's really trying to push the culture.
Yeah.
It's trying to help us.
It's interesting hearing the talk because he seems like he just really cares right now
about just pushing, like, Latinos and rap music in general
and not, like, any particular artist or particular scene or whatever.
Well, he's been behind a lot of artists.
He's been behind the scenes on a lot of artists, like, big names.
But a lot of the artists that he was fucking with weren't, like,
like LA street rappers.
Exactly.
So now he's like, let me help out the home base, home team.
Yeah.
Got to respect that.
What about when you look at Paiso and Suede
and shit like that?
Because it feels like there's like a whole new generation
of young Latino rappers coming out.
Yeah.
How does it feel seeing that and, you know, embracing that?
Shit, I'm proud of the homies.
I'm proud of the hummys doing what they're doing
and really like creating a lane for themselves.
It's really like, it's really amazing.
Right. So that shit is dope.
Definitely. Okay, going back to the other thing though,
tell me about what high school was like in Paramount.
Say, Paramount High School, that's it. That shit was pretty cool.
That shit was cool, man. That's it.
When I went there, it was a whole lot of shit going on.
And, you know, being younger and shit, at that time, I was a knucklehead,
so I was just, I was in my bullshit.
had to high school on lock.
That shit was cool and shit.
All the homies from the hood up there.
That she was fun.
I got kicked out right away.
Really?
Fighting in the restroom and shit.
Really?
Was it like that?
It was like constant politics on a daily basis?
Well, shit it was active.
Yeah.
So it was like, you know,
homies rumbling at school fucking for a second,
but it kind of died down by the time I got to high school.
Like when I was in middle school,
there was racial rights going on at the schools and shit.
But that shit died down.
Black on Mexican?
Yeah, it was racial rights going on.
That shit died down right away, though.
like within the next couple years that shit night down but it was going on like that's
too hectic motherfuckers leaving the school really to go rumble at at fucking on
road plans and perma boulevard by the jack-in-the-box just a bunch of fucking it's sort of it's all the
homies and fucking Hispanics versus a gang of blacks just rumbling but so they would plan this out and
be like oh let's go meet up which is motherfucker um shit it was a lot going on at the time they were
doing walkouts and all types of shit so uh motherfuckers would just uh just be like oh yeah they're gonna be
they're going to be getting down after they're going to be getting down today
everybody did your sixth period they're going to meet up at the jacks they're going to go out
with the blacks or they're going to go out you know what I'm saying whatever and just
anybody who's on board they tell the homies and I'll meet up over there wow yeah and you'd just
be like all right I'm pulling up to the jack in the box let's go yeah shit like
how did the but this is back in the day when you guys were young enough that it wasn't
like people are getting shot it was just more like oh everybody going to just fight
yeah yeah but then it got to the point where where where people would
would end up getting shot because of shit like that.
It always kind of gets there eventually.
Not like then and there, but it's like shit
would end up happening like, oh shit, you know,
like, motherfucking, motherfucker got shattered this or that
because of shit that led up to that, you know?
So you only went to one school
and got kicked out right away?
Yeah, I went to Paramount High,
got kicked out in like 10th grade,
and then I started bouncing around.
Went to like a continuation school in Paramount CDS.
Then I went to like Downy CDS got kicked out.
Wanted to one of school in Pico, Rivera,
Bermuda CEDYS got kicked out.
That is kind of crazy that you can just go to a school,
get kicked out, and then just go to another school
a couple miles away. Yeah, I got kicked off with dumb shit too.
Like, oh, we're smoking. We're smoking in the school
in the restroom. Smoking. Pank caps.
You put weed in the pen cab?
Yeah, make little pancabs, peg little bows
and shit. That's crazy. Because when I was
I'm 26, so when I was in high school, we
didn't have Jeep pens, we didn't have all that new shit.
Yeah, now these kids got it good.
Damn. I don't even think about that. Kids could definitely be
hitting the G-Pas.
Edibles, Langer Restaurant slinging hits, blinkers.
I'd be selling edibles in school.
That's the best way if you want to get high in school?
Man.
I don't know.
You fuck with edibles?
You know what?
You would love these sour range right here.
I had a couple, but they heavy as fuck.
I think I eat some of those two.
They're heavy.
Yeah, they have you.
Oh, they'll have you fucked up.
The other day, we had a Ruga from Chicago on here,
and he proceeded to eat like five or six of them in a row.
And he told me that when he left,
that he was so high that he, like, really couldn't do anything.
Yeah, last time I ate.
some chocolate bar just because I'm thinking they good they chocolate but each one of them was like
500 milligrams I ate like three of them motherfuck out smacked for like 12 hours yeah that'll do it
sometimes I feel like it can't really hit me that way I've done it enough that's not worth it like
I was I was just on vacation munching these things the whole time you wake up you still feel high
yeah but if you do enough of it it starts to get kind of normal and like you don't feel it as
strong which is maybe not a good thing but yeah I feel like that's what life's all about is just
getting it getting used to taking more and more THC and until you
You die.
Hell yeah.
When you start smoking weed, is that your main vice?
When I was like three years old.
Three?
No, I'm just fucking shit.
When I was like, I think when I was like, shit, like 12, 13.
Okay.
12th, 13, start smoking.
You were on the pencaps then, too, or you were on bluen?
Well, shit, at first, well, that's what we would do at school or when we didn't have nothing else,
either pan cap or apple.
But, you know, we're smoking blunts.
got high a couple times
shit
my letter feeling kept
getting high
just kept rolling with it
kept getting high
so you got kicked out
all those other schools as well
I got kicked out all of them
really
all of them
all of them
Jesus Christ that's crazy
so then when did you actually give up
do you remember what age you were
oh shit well
I went to
I went to camp
and I graduated in camp
because I picked up like credits
from all the other schools
and so this is like
some sort of like
really like in camp
I'm not
doing shit in class, I'm just drawing on papers, and they're giving me credits.
But it's like a youth jail type camp?
Yeah, it's like camp.
Like, shit, you go to juvenile halls and they send you to camp, you know what I'm saying?
Right.
So you still locked up and shit.
Definitely.
So they were just letting you through?
Like, you would just draw on the paper and they would still give you a grade?
I'll be honest with you and shit.
I'll shit and put them on blast.
But juvenile halls really, like, you don't got to do shit and you're going to get your
diploma.
You don't got to do nothing.
Like, shit, I'm in there tagging on papers.
Boom, boom, tagging, hitting in my hood.
It's just their job.
Just get you the fuck out of there.
Practicing my strikes.
So I'm in there, yeah, so I'm in there try different letters.
And then shit, I graduated.
So you used to be like doing the...
Because like when I see like the gang style graffiti these days in L.A.
And shit, I'm always kind of wondering who the fuck is putting that up.
I guess that's you.
Shit.
Like, people like me.
I'm not going to say it's me, but it's people like me.
But when you were young, was that like a big thing that like you had to hold the neighborhood down?
Like...
Oh, shit.
Yeah, we got to hold that shit down day and night, 24 hours.
Really?
Yeah.
I always wonder about that shit.
So it gets covered up and then you got to just go do it again to let everybody know this is weird.
Now, look, at one point, I'll be honest with you.
Like, at one point, it was like this.
Like, they're riding my hood.
We go right in their hood.
And then it's like, I'll see the motherfucker pull up and come right in the hood.
And we chase them out.
Right.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Shit like that or, you know, I even got worse.
You know what I'm saying?
Shit like that.
But yeah.
But I already got tired of that shit because I went to jail one time for vandalism.
charges and it wasn't even me but it was like the homies writing my names on the walls.
Really? You know what I'm saying and I wouldn't jail for it because shit went when they
when they fucking took me in for it like they telling me like also if it's not you who is it
shit I'm like all right shit I just took blame for the charges like they as me you
I'm saying on some g shit like fuck it you know what I'm saying it's the homies but I'm not
shit I can't throw homies on there but I want to jail for that shit so I just kind of
felt stupid I was like man and then I'm just like I'm not I don't got time to be going to
jail for tagging this shit. The thing I was heard with graffiti is that
that you just never admit that it was you
because it's so expensive for them to hire
like a handwriting expert and shit
to actually prove in court that it was you,
that if you never admit it, it's kind of easy to get off.
It just kind of, it's just sometimes, sometimes like,
it's just so obvious, like you can't,
it's like you can't fucking, like they got pictures of you
and this, that, or they got fucking,
you got that shit on, you know, you got taggings on you
and shit, that's how I got cut in school,
that's how they got me the first time I had a fucking black,
black buck and some pans and shit all types of it and no yeah but no yeah that's what you do you
never that's one thing you never admit it never admit that it was you even if it was you right so for so but
but something but if they got you red-handed like fuck it you know like but even then don't admit it was you
even then even if it got to red hat don't do it you know what wasn't you like wasn't you like
I had friends back in the day on the east coast who like they would get caught like crazy like
books full of photos of their graffiti tons of drawings all over the fucking bedroom and still deny
And they still get their house raided by the cops, and they just never admit it and it never turned into anything because it's like, oh, yeah, I'm a big fan of this guy.
I take pictures of all his graffiti.
Yeah, for sure.
You know, they're just like palm it off like that.
Anyway, so what did you get arrested for that you ended up getting locked up or going to this camp in the first place?
Oh, the first, what shit when I was in school?
It was for, they had put me on house arrest.
Then again, once again, for vandalism charges when I was younger.
And then I violated my house arrest smoking in school, so that.
they ended up sending me to camp.
Yeah, shit like that, probation violations.
Little retarded shit.
Okay.
When a camp, graduating camp came home, I'm done with school.
Okay.
And so what was the game plan after you were done with that?
Like, what direction did you see yourself taking your life in?
Shit, you get a job.
I already had a daughter at that point, so it was like, get a job and make money
and try to provide a family.
That's shit.
I ain't really have a game plan.
I was just like, let's work.
Hey, shit, I'm not going to lie.
I didn't have no experience doing nothing.
tagging that was my experience so what were you working doing that shit i got like a warehouse job
okay fucking pushing boxing shit loading boxes and so you're doing all that and are you thinking about
rapping while you're doing that type of shit what shit i always rap even in camp i was writing raps
but um at that point it's like i'm not going to i want to rap but the shit i can't depend on it
you know right yeah for sure but yeah uh so that's what was doing agency jobs
Oh shit.
But so, okay, but when did you start thinking like,
okay, maybe I can really do something with this rap shit?
I started, I started, I recorded like one of my,
I recorded a song, shot a video, and I got a lot of good feedback.
Off your first one.
One of my first songs, and then after that,
it's just something I always wanted to do, so.
So I just kind of like said, fuck it, you know,
I'm just, I'm going to keep dropping content.
And then once I see you get paid off of it, shit,
like, my mommy taught me how to monetize my YouTube
and other shit and how to get your music on distribution.
And then I was like, oh, yeah, let's try to get some money.
People started fucking with it.
And, you know, people even were down to pay me to do songs and stuff.
So I was like, after that, I said, it's a rap.
Right.
Yeah.
Well, did it feel like, do you remember when you first got some money off of music
that, like, really made you feel like, oh, shit?
Like the first time you got a YouTube check or a streaming check in the mail or what was it?
Yeah, like first time, first time I got like a cool amount off of YouTube when one of my songs was doing really good.
So shit, that shit felt good.
I think that's really one of the first times I got cool money off of music.
And then just other than that, just people trying to pay for features.
So that was kind of cool.
That was cool. A lot of people wanted to work, but I didn't know. I don't know my soul was popping like that.
So shit, I was like, shit, give me $200. Give me this, give me that.
Right.
Yeah, you know, shit. Little by little, we just thought, you're fine hundred.
How long were you doing this before you decided to quit your job and just try to make it work off?
Well, shit, I forgot exactly when, but I was, I was working at Habit grilled in my hood. They had just opened one.
Right.
I want to get a job right there.
I love the burgers over there, by the other way.
Yeah, they're actually pretty good.
I don't have a burger.
So I was working right there, but I was still trying to trap while I was working,
and they kind of peaked that.
So one time they, like, we're going to ask me, they approached me to talk to me.
So, like, somebody comes and orders a burger, you throw an eight ball in the bag, and then they hand you?
No, no, it's like, I'm right there.
You always hear about people getting busted for doing that.
I'm doing orders.
I'm doing orders, and then, like, I have people pull up, and I'll go to the restroom,
and I'll serve them in the restaurant.
And so the, but the manager started to, like, pick up on, like, damn, you're going to the bathroom.
like 13 times a day.
Like, yeah, yeah, for so.
So once they, once I seen, they were gonna like,
they were gonna talk to me about it, I just, I just told him I quit.
Just told him I quit, and then I just left.
And after that, I said, man, fuck this, I'm gonna just rap and shit, trap.
Who helped put you on to the business of, like,
how to really make money as a rapper?
You know what?
Okay, I got, I got my business partner who really, like, gave me up on some things.
I got my cameraman who gave me up.
And then I got my, the owner of the label OTR,
he really gave me up on a lot of things too.
So he helped me make a lot of money.
Those three people right there,
they put a lot of money in my pockets.
When you compare being a rapper to like whatever you might have done
in the streets before,
how would you compare it in terms of like the lifestyle
or how enjoyable it is or how much money you can make?
Because, you know, being a rapper, like,
you know, obviously shit's different if you're Drake
or you're fucking Megastayan or whatever.
But when you're more of like a,
more underground artists and you're having to run around and make all these different plays
in terms of doing features and videos and all this stuff to like catch checks like it almost feels
like that's it's not that far off from like hustling or being in the streets right no yeah yeah for
so it feels like a hustle not that's and that's what I see it I see I see I see uh I see the rap
shit I see it as a as a as a dope hustle I don't see it as a career I don't see it as like you know
nothing else I see it as a dope as hustle just you know right well you
underground or mainstream or whatever maybe the more money you make then you're probably more well off
right like when i was a kid growing up it was so like you know we're looking up the 50 cent snoop
dog shit like that it's like you weren't really a rapper unless you were like a huge rapper whereas
now it's much a lot of the people i interview are making they might be making six figures a year
but they got to go out and grind every day to like get some checks or make some shit happen and
it's like i don't know i sure when i look at somebody like you i think it's dope that you could like
put together like a very real career without having to be this guy who's on the radio
come from nothing like you know you know fucking dub that's though duck we're talking about all the time
yeah that's my motherfucking boy right then i see i've seen them i seen them really come from nothing and
blow up yeah you know what I'm like the same shit I came from nothing and said we now we're getting
a little money he he always stood out to me as a genius because he did tattoos he sold shirts
he sold drugs he did all these different things and then it
It just happened to be that like selling the shirts, all of a sudden, boom, was just started
popping off way more than all the other things.
But that's what he always told me.
He always said, I'm going to do tattoos.
I'm going to sell shirts.
I'm going to sell some lien.
I'm going to do all this shit so that, you know, if you come to buy some lien from me, I'm
going to sell you a $50 hoodie or $100 hoodie too.
And that like, you know, all of a sudden shit just started working out.
Yeah, that's a genius.
Yeah, 100%.
Everything.
Okay.
So when did your music actually start?
start to become popular enough that you felt like I'm kind of like famous to a certain degree
right now like 2018 I did uh I dropped I dropped a song I dropped the song Grammy gang when I got at a
June 2018 and it started it did well it did really well and then from there from there I dropped another
song called the real and and it was doing it was doing pretty well as it was on pretty well doing
better than Grammy gang so so I just figured after that I was like damn like these my streams are
going up I'm doing a lot of people recognize me I was like I started seeing I was pop and I go any
I go out and people want to take pictures I want my family people want to take pictures even my
that's where my my family started recognizing too like oh yeah even my sister started telling my mom
like your son's about to blow up it's going crazy yeah stuff like that so like in the beginning
2018 at the end of 2019 what was that like though like you're still living in the same area
you're kind of still in the same lifestyle but then all of a sudden your profile is going up a lot
well shit it's it's kind of interesting yeah it's interesting that's it but you know it's dope
because it's a great opportunity for you to do a lot of things
you didn't start to feel like you had to get out of that area or no yeah for sure because
you know as well as this opportunity it's like it makes you a target yeah for sure definitely so did you
end up sort of moving to a different residence at a certain point yeah i moved out my mama's house
like shit on other side of town i'm still in the hood but on the other side of town like nobody
knows where i met though right you try to just stay more low-key at this point yeah i got to shit
i got motherfucker i got a lot of haters definitely so when you came out rapping though you already
have all the face tattoos or a lot of them yeah like my first
video I ever dropped. I didn't have no tattoos
but then when I when I start
and I was like shit 2016
17 but then I was like
I dropped the video and yeah I wanted
rap but then I was like
more in the hood and shit so I'm running around
with the homies and shit I'm gonna fuck about nothing
I got all hit up and shit I got all blasted
then when I started rap again
when I started taking more serious
like I started doing those freestyle videos and people tripping out
then I just started rapping again
started dropping videos right but yeah when I
first started, my first video ever, like, I don't got no tattoos. Like, I got my sleeve,
but I don't got, I don't got no face tattoos. Do they lay you work at Habenberger if you got
face tattoos? No, at the time I didn't. At the time I didn't. Once I quit, and then I, because
I was still running around the hood when I was working there, like shit, I get off of work,
go kick it with the homies and go fuck around. But so the thing is, once I quit, I just said,
man, fuck it. Like, I'm full time, full time trapping, full time, full time. I don't get a
fuck about nothing. I'm over there. I'm not going to lie shit. I was working getting high
and trapping so I'm more here getting high now I was I'm all fucking monster you know
like but we always have this conversation about how like for certain people who try to change
their lives and they go like try to get a regular job it's like almost impossible because then
you're kind of like a sitting duck for your ops to know exactly where you're at every day and
shit yeah exactly is there some truth to that yeah no doubt so so that's that's one thing too is
like you can't just go work you can't just go work anywhere you know yeah for so you got to pick
the right habit burger.
Yeah, for some.
Yeah.
For sure.
Fuck all that.
What, um, I noticed you have the, the marathon continues flag on your neck.
Like, what, what is it about Nipsey?
Was he somebody you were looking up to before you even had shit going on?
Yeah, that's what it was.
That's what it was.
That was just like, big influence.
Like, oh, yeah, he makes, he doing music.
He's from a hood and he's from LA.
That's something that we, I wanted to do two hours.
I was like, shit, I won't make music.
I'm from the, from out here and shit, you know?
Right.
Definitely.
How'd you feel when Nipsey passed?
Was that heartbreaking?
Yeah, I was like, yeah, I was like, damn, that's fucked up, you know?
I was, I was hurt.
I was like, damn, my motherfucker was dope.
You got the tattoo after that, though, I'm assuming?
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Like, yeah, like a little tribute, Nipsey Hustle.
Definitely.
Did you get your Instagram deleted?
Yeah, I got my shit deleted, man.
When did that happen?
I like a week ago, two weeks
Really? Do you know why?
Shit, I think I was supposed to
Because it was weed I was supposed to
Isn't that crazy though?
Since when can we not post week?
Well, you know what I think it is?
I think because
Because I was promoting the sale
And they get mad at that
And besides that
Because I had to get it
I took a change my account
From a business to a personal account
So I think when it's like
A business account
I kind of protect you a little more
Wow
I think that's what I think
Are you optimistic about getting it back?
Shit, I don't really care
You don't care?
I don't really care.
I want to get it back.
I'm going to try, but I don't really care.
It's like, yeah, like, I'm not going to lie.
Like, shit, like, you know, like, it was fun to build it up and shit
and get it popping, but it's like, now that I got to take it down,
a lot of motherfuckers is trying to charge me to get that shit back.
And I'm like, I don't want to, it's like, ain't nobody for sure about it.
So I'm just like, man, fuck it.
Like, I'm going to build a new one, start a new algorithm.
You know, but, but, you know, like, shit, I'm not going to lie.
like, shit, look, I'm working on some prizes.
Got some music cracking.
I'm about to do a little project right now with swaying and pace.
So we're about to see how shit goes.
It's Grammy Park.
We dropped the song called Grammy Park.
Now we're going to do a whole project about it.
I'm going to see how that shit goes.
We'll see how that shit goes.
We're going to drop a couple projects and see what's up.
If that shit does well, we might continue working.
If it doesn't, ah, quit rapping.
You know what I'm going to do something else?
You thought about quitting rapping for real?
Well, shit, they already took down my Instagram.
But that felt like that's,
such a big blow that it would almost make you want to stop rap.
Well, I'm just like, shit.
I'm just like, I'm just, I'm going to see, I'm going to see what moves,
what power moves I can make next.
But if I don't get the same results that I expect, then like, shit, I just do something
else.
I'll fucking A&R some motherfuckers.
I'm going mad, blow somebody else.
I'll do some.
Do my podcast.
You seem like you have like a vision beyond just you being a rapper, right?
Because you already have your own label.
You got a bunch of artists that you're fucking with, right?
Y'all got, yep.
Why is that though?
Like, why are you, it feels like a lot of people don't start thinking about doing a label or like businesses they can build out from their career until they've been at it for a long time.
I guess you have been at it for a few years, but I've seen some people, I've seen some people be successful doing it.
So I'm just like, you know, let me see what I can do.
Right.
In terms of sway and pace, though, like doing music with them, where did that come from?
Like, how did y'all connect on that level?
I said, um, well, we're all, we're all from, we're all from, we're all from,
from the same area like Pacers from Maywood,
Sways from Huntington Park, I'm from Paramount,
we all Adria, Adia, that's what we call it,
we're all from the south side, double-ed,
so it's like, that's Adia, we're our homies and shit.
So we just, they doing this shit,
I'm doing my shit, and then, you know,
I just got out, Sway, got out around the same time.
As soon as I got out, we linked up,
the homies hit me up and shit.
And even before he, even before he,
even before he came up, he was hitting me up.
Like we was chopping it up.
We was trying to see what we could do.
Well, I could do to help him because I was already doing my shit.
So we just, you know, we've been politicking on what we could do and shit,
little moves we can make.
And yeah, that's what I feel like we could do right now that's going to help me,
run some streams and get back up in the game, do something with them,
little project with them.
You know, we did well with Grammy Parked them off a guy, like half a million a month.
Yeah.
So that shit cool. That's she doing crazy streams.
Yeah, that's what's so for sure.
So, okay, I wanted to ask this.
Did Mr. Criminal, did he try to sign you back in the day?
Yeah, you know what?
I signed with him.
I signed to his label and then it was just bullshit.
Like, bullshit contract.
I never even met him.
I never met him in my life.
You meet him.
I never met him.
He sent him through Instagram and he sent me a contract
through my email.
Uh-huh.
And you just signed it without a lawyer?
Yeah, I did.
Okay.
And your team's laughing at you now.
So you signed to him.
What did you think you were getting as a result of signing to?
Well, I was just like, oh, yeah, this forgot a blue check.
You're going to blow me up.
I didn't have shit pop up, and I was just like, oh, yeah, he's going to post me and all that.
Hell yeah, like, Mr. Criminal.
Like, I'm about to be honest with you.
I didn't even fucking, I don't even, I said.
Once I signed, I did my research, and I fucking liked one of his songs.
But I had never heard one of, not one of his songs.
You know what I'm saying?
I had never actually listened to one of his records.
But yeah, so I had one of my lawyers who's a good, like, a friend of the family, he looked
at the contract and he voided the contract.
He got me out of the contract.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
And once I told criminal that my lawyer was going to get at him about that, he just told me
like, man, don't worry about it, you know what I'm saying?
Like you do you, you know, like.
So you guys never actually did anything while you were working with him?
No.
You never did a song.
You never met.
Well, I was supposed to drop my first project with him, my first project.
And then the project was done.
He did put, I did put some of my videos on his, on his YouTube channel, but he took him down.
He took him down.
Yeah.
And, but honestly, honestly, like, shit, my videos did better on my channel.
Right.
Yeah.
Okay.
Damn.
That's crazy.
So I didn't really, I don't really, like, need him.
Lesson learned, don't sign to somebody just because they're verified on Instagram.
No, yeah.
For so, no, yeah, like, shit coming up, like, and that's when I first came up, you,
you know, you're vulnerable, you don't know nothing.
You don't know nothing, that shit.
And then you see, like, you motherfuckers is verified and then been making music.
He had a Spotify commercial, so I was on, this was on and shit.
At least he was cool about it once you said you were going to get a lawyer or whatever, right?
Yeah, yeah, that was cool, like, like, it wasn't too hard to get out the country.
I just had to get my lawyer involved.
But why, why you have, like, disc songs against him and shit?
Was there a period of time where it wasn't so smooth?
Well, that was because, that was because, like, yeah, at first, I had to talk to my lawyer and I wanted to get out the contract.
But, like, since it was such an online thing with him, I had never met him in person, and I talked to him a couple times on the phone.
And so I just, I said, like, fuck it, I'm going to drop a record on this motherfucker.
Like, I dropped the record.
Yeah, and I explained him a song, too, like, that's such an old song, so I don't remember the lyrics.
But I said something like, and you send an email, I ain't never, I never seen your face.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I'll talk about it in there.
Right.
Yeah.
If I was going to sign an artist tomorrow, I'll probably just go link up with them.
You know, I would meet up with them.
No, right, right.
Yeah, I want to sign somebody.
Give them a half hour on my time or something, you know.
Yeah, shit.
I told them, too, like, can I get a fucking hoodie?
Yeah.
Can I get a hoodie?
Can I get a fucking hoodie that says fucking crime family?
Right.
Like, no, I couldn't get shit.
I was fucking, yeah.
That's crazy.
Did I turn you off to the idea of sign into somebody,
or could you still see yourself doing that?
It just really made me like, fuck it.
I was like, man, fuck a label.
You can't fuck with a label.
It ain't nothing the label could do for you
that you can't do for yourself.
So then that's why I was just like,
I'm going to make sure that my label is a complete opposite of his.
You know what I'm saying?
Okay.
I feel you.
Okay, I got to ask about this.
what was going on back in the day
when you made the video
threatening O'Gizi
What?
You know, I just want to know the context of it
It's over now, right?
Yeah, it was just me being petty, really
It was me being petty, like
Like, just, just like, just like,
just some dumb shit
I had dropped the comment on his shit
and he dropped, he coming in back, like,
he, and when he's coming back,
I dropped laughing emotives on one of his videos
Okay
Because he shot a video with somebody from Compton
So I dropped a laughing emoji
Because I'm not gonna lie
I was a little
Like I was upset
I was like
Like I thought that
I thought that was Hispanic
I thought they was Hispanic
But they over here like
Rapping with all the blacks
And they won't fuck with no Hispanics
Whatever that's something else
So I was just like
I just dropped a laughing emoji
I was like I thought that was funny
And then he kept
He commented like
What the fuck's so funny
And then I coming back
For you
For you
For you
Or something like that
And then
And then
And then I forgot what else he put or I don't know what he put.
And I just put like, like, man, I'm going to slap you when I see you.
Like, and I forgot that shit.
Yeah, but, but, but yeah, it was just me like some petty shit, you know, on the internet.
But it's that issue.
Like, I ain't never met him.
He ain't never made me.
It didn't go anywhere from there.
You guys didn't end up talking about it.
No, well, shit.
One time, one time they, like, somebody tried to put us on the phone, but he didn't want to talk.
He didn't want to talk.
And I ain't tripping.
Like, I didn't really want to talk.
either, but just somebody that knew both of us was just like, really like just trying to put
us on the phone and just like, whatever, you know.
But like, you were just trying to kill shit, that's it.
Right.
Do you feel like...
But I met other motherfuckers for Shoreline.
Oh, really?
And, like, I did a song with Rob Vicious.
Okay.
And I got, I know Phoenix and then I, shit, like, I mean, who else I mean?
I think that's about it.
As far as we know, they don't really all like each other anymore.
Well, shit.
I don't know what's going on.
But at the time, like, yeah, I met them and shit,
we never had no problems.
It was just be being petty with it.
But yeah, just because whatever was going on.
But that was me coming up to it.
And I was just worried.
Like, I was just, I guess I was worried about like artists
or like what other artists got going on more than like,
I'm worried about what I got going on.
You know what I'm saying?
So that's why I kind of realized like, man, like, man,
that was petty of me.
And it's very similar to the situation where you had
Draco calling out Busy for doing a song with some rappers
that he had beef with.
And then, so all of a sudden,
you got Draco from L.A.
calling out a rapper
on the other side of the country
for doing a song with his ops.
And it's kind of like,
you know, like, really at the end of the day?
I'll feel Draco, though.
I'll fill him.
Nah, I was fucking with you.
I was going to.
We know the truth,
now, I was there.
He tried to get me in trouble last time he was here.
He met at you too.
I don't know what the hell he's talking about.
He came in here saying some deep-coded,
cryptic shit.
I didn't know what the fuck he was talking.
Some jealous shit.
Figured it out afterwards.
And I'm like, God damn, what's he doing coming in here?
Trying to, trying to.
That's a new thing for me, though, is people come on the interview and sneak this people.
Okay.
They say shit I don't get, but that the streets will get.
So they get this big-ass platform to diss whoever, but then I'm sitting here like, boo.
Oh, you got a normal man.
So if you want to do that, like, you know.
Because there's all these little gang terms that are dizzes for other hoods, and I don't necessarily know.
No, I don't got to know.
They know what it's up.
I don't even be on that like, I don't even be on my bullshit, but they know where I'm from and they know what's up.
For sure.
Yeah, that's smart.
Keep a little bit of distance in there.
Okay.
I wanted to ask you this, too.
I think it's a really important topic for me to ask you.
How do you feel about people referring to your people as Latin X?
Do you appreciate that term?
What does that mean?
It's like instead of Latino or Latina, they say Latin X because I guess they want to include the trans people and not just the men.
Okay, let me say white X, black X.
Well played.
How do you, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Yeah, so it's like, let me say fucking, that's retarded as shit.
Yeah, just let me be white.
Like, you don't got to put an X after much.
You don't got to include them.
If anything, look, it's like, you know how they say, it's like white, brown, black, other.
Right.
Trans, whatever.
They should give them their own little category.
Right.
Because they've done, like, polling of, like, Hispanic people, and it's like 85% of
Hispanic people either don't like that term or have no fucking clue what they're talking about.
Whoever started that shit needs to knock it off.
White people started there, I'm pretty sure.
Man.
White people trying to, like, impose their, like, weird, wokeness on.
Well, you can't.
You can't go against the white folks, so never mind, go ahead.
I think you can.
Do what you do.
You can go against them.
There's no jember.
Well, well, yeah, you can.
You can't.
They're not going to have me on here no more if I say what I want to say.
No, you can air it out.
No, I'm saying.
Spray this block out.
Let's go.
I got a lot of white friends.
Yeah?
Yeah, oh, yeah.
Do you let him say Enware?
Well, shit, I don't care.
I'm not a nigga.
So you feel comfortable saying it, though?
I could say it because, you know what I'm saying?
Because I got black friends.
Okay.
I got black homies and shit, and I, well, shit.
Like, I'm a nigga 10%.
10%.
Are you actually?
No, no, I just like, I could kick it with my niggas and be chilling and shit.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
I could go to homies, barbecues,
He was gonna pull up in Compton with certain hoods and shit,
shit like that, whatever.
The more famous you get, the more that they get on your ass
about being Hispanic and saying.
Yeah, well, and me personally, like, I don't say it.
I don't say it on my records and stuff.
And then, like, I'll say it around my homies
that I'm comfortable with, my black homies.
I don't say around like black folks.
I don't know.
Yeah.
It's not out of respect.
Respect, that's it, you know what I'm saying?
Definitely.
It is crazy because it's like, like, I can think of examples,
but there's certain Hispanic people
get pressed over it and there's certain Hispanic people that nobody ever says shit about it,
you know?
Yeah.
Like, I don't think they're saying shit to you because you got face tattoos realistically.
Like, I got a big homie.
I got a big homie shit.
I wish I could call him right now, but he fucking, um, he's on a level four and he'll be like,
what, what, my nigga?
Like, whoa, whoa, whoa, man, he's fucking big homie.
That's big sparky and shit.
He fucking, nobody will tell him shit.
Nobody will tell him shit, you know what I'm saying?
So it just really depends, too, who, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
It depends.
Yeah.
Shout up Big Sparky.
Yeah, shout out Big Sparky.
Yeah, he's gonna be head of security of Grammy Records.
Really?
Yeah, for sure.
I got to get it.
I told him I got him a job and I'm gonna make sure that he got some productive to doing so he's, yeah.
That's what's so.
That's fire.
I wanted to ask you about this.
About the album?
Yeah, about the album.
Like, you seem like you're such a, like you seem so nice, but then when I listen to your music, it's like, damn, this guy's evil.
Do you have to get in a certain mind state when you're making music or like, you're like, you're like, you're like a certain mind state when you're making music or like, like, you're like, you're like,
Like, how do you approach that?
Well, honestly, you know, like, I, you know, it's like this.
You could see somebody like, like, for example, fucking, what's the name of the president?
Joe Biden.
You can see somebody like him and you might think this man is so nice and whatnot, but you don't know what's his deepest, darkest secrets or what he does fucking behind closed doors.
He might be the most evil motherfucker you ever met.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's just like, I'm going to come on.
I'm a, I'm a, I'm going to be real respectful and real nice and real smooth around motherfuckers.
But at the same time, like, you don't know what.
so with me either, you know?
Yeah, being able to turn off the evil for the,
for the interview is good, right?
Shit, yeah, just for the public period, you know?
Like, yeah, it's cool to be cool, calm, reserved.
But then when it comes to making music,
do you feel like that's you letting the real out of you?
Well, it just, you know, that's what people want to hear.
They want to hear the bullshit, you know?
Like, I try to give them, like, other shit,
but it's like, certain shit doesn't get the same result
as this shit, so the bullshit gets the result, you know what I'm saying?
Do you ever feel trapped in that?
Like, you were only able to make one type of music
for the people?
or not? You know what? For a minute I did, but then once, like, kind of just started making
different types of music, then I kind of realized that, you know, you only trap because
that's where you put yourself in, you know? But yeah, like, I got a Spanish project, too,
dropping soon. I noticed that you'd be rapping in Spanish a lot.
Yeah, like, I experiment different shit, but my brother, Chito Runa's, he's the goat.
I seen him as well, yeah, and I was trying to find his Instagram, but I couldn't find it.
I think it's like King Chito.
Yeah, they took down his other one, but it's like King Chito Ranas or something like that.
But how do you know him?
Because this is pretty big too on YouTube.
You know what?
I met him when he had first signed back in the day to King Little G.
So he had signed a king and he had got out his contract around the same time I got around my contract.
So we were both going through the same stuff.
And I had hit him up on Instagram because I had just ran up to his music on YouTube.
I seen his music on YouTube.
So I looked up his Instagram.
Found him.
Hit him up.
He told me like, hey, that's crazy.
just listen to your music.
And I was thinking, me and you are the hardest ones out right now making music,
like Hispanic homies.
I was like, man, I thought the same exact shit.
Shit, let's link up.
And then, yeah, we're supposed to link up.
He was like, send me some record or send me some.
I'll knock it out.
I'll send him back.
I sent him some shit.
He never sent it back.
I was like, man, this motherfucker lagging.
Eventually, he ended up to the hood.
He needed to pulling up.
So he hit me up when they like, hey,
hey, brother, I'm coming from Sack to L.A.
So I booked the studio, brought him to the studio,
and we knocked out, we knocked out a record.
Right.
Where it shot the video the same day.
Fire.
Yeah.
And that's it.
Actually, it went crazy.
Definitely.
Beautiful thing.
Okay.
I feel like I covered most of my spicy-ass questions that I've written down here.
Asked you about a bunch of old beef that you probably didn't want to revisit, but, you know, you got to do it.
Man, I'm down for whatever.
I'm talking shit.
Anything else that we should talk about?
Anything you want the people to know before we wrap this?
Yeah, I got a show on the 28th at the Roxy.
Tap in, tune in, Swade, Peso, C&G, J.I. Bands, a lot of dope artists.
Swithy and Friends.
28th.
I wonder if I can make it.
I got Grimy Part, the album dropping soon.
Gang of Dope-Age records featuring Swade and Peso.
We go on ham.
Each record is a banger.
And, you know, I got a Spanish album dropping soon, too, you know.
Clear my calendar for the 28th.
I got nothing in there right now.
We're going to the show.
Hell yeah, pull up.
That's dope.
Hell yeah, you gonna see what's up.
We're going to the Roxy.
Hell yeah.
Been there in a long fucking time.
Yeah, that's a business kind of old.
Yeah.
No, that's a cool though.
No, it's cool.
Yeah, it's cool.
That's the one right next to the Rainbow Room, right?
Oh man, we gonna get some good food after.
That's a little bar restaurant?
Yeah, legendary.
I heard about it.
I heard about it.
Legend.
My home boy said that there's dope in there.
There's dope in there, too.
You can do drugs in there.
Oh, shit.
I've seen people snoring coke.
The waitress standing right there.
We could do drugs anywhere.
Yeah.
I mean, but you normally like on the table, the restaurant is like kind of like a bad idea.
Without getting a drug.
They really like turn a blind eye to everything.
We got to get kicked out of everywhere like I kicked out of every school.
Yeah, I remember the homies like fucking lemonade and pouring lean right in the cups
in the fucking restaurant.
That sounds like fun.
It's really abusing the privilege.
Man.
Yeah.
Let's turn up.
Let's go.
We're gonna get you back on that coke.
Fuck your nose.
Man, fuck.
Fuck.
Give me some fucking fish, yeah.
Let's go.
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