No Jumper - The Taz Taylor Interview

Episode Date: May 15, 2020

Internet Money's Taz Taylor checked in with Adam for a very rare interview. He breaks down his career, work ethic, label deals, finding talent, hovering artists, working with 10K Projects, his relationships with Lil Tecca, Fetty Wap, and what's going down in the Internet Money House. ----- FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 FOLLOW OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/529mn7of2HBKdLfrAMUzcK?si=rWVBWCuWSXeh0TFYb2P-dQ CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/nojumper iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/no-jumper/id1001659715?mt=2 Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/No-Jumper-198283650194402/ http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 and adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Like 15 years. That's like Starbucks. You got a Zippo? That's some rich shit. No. These motherfuckers got the fucking. We are. These motherfuckers got the fucking Zippos.

Look at me. He looks maniacal. Dude, Zippos are the best. When I was a kid, I used to have to go to the fucking Pennsylvania to see my dad in prison. And it was right next to the fucking Zippo plant where they like made the Zippos or like they at least have like a museum of the Zippos. And it was right near the prison. So my mom would like. be like, yes, we have to, like, go on this long-ass drive to go to a prison,

but you get to go get a Zippo. I still can't use a Zippo almost burnt my house down like the other day. Really? How the fuck do you do that? Why? Because the flame doesn't stop unless you close it? It didn't stop. I didn't know that.

And I lit the bitch and I was smoking and I dropped it. The lighter and it kept burning. Yeah, that's dangerous. Yeah. Do you have, like, a big can or, like, gas that you put into it now? Or do you just use it one time? Like, we got a little butane. Yeah.

Little butane fillers. There's a lot of smoking. It's like a party pack. Everybody has their own personal lighter. When I went to the internet money house, the most recent time, there's definitely a lot of weed smoking going on. You guys are examining the, like, finer things that you can do with weed smoking, I guess. Like, you can get a real fancy lighter.

I guess. No chain today? No chain. I don't wear jewelry light anymore. Why? You're over it? I don't do anything. I don't even do interviews no more.

I put this on this morning, bro. when I got shot was like I got to leave the house today I was like okay not no jewelry but no no but I don't I don't wear like chains and shit no more what you just over it you just want to be a normal guy yeah that's how I feel too I got weirded out bro really why you got robbed no never bro you see me bro you know what time it is well I don't know what time it is you got the gloomy you know how many people I go with right you're with one dude I don't even yeah because you said bring one person he's not wearing a bullet belt or anything it's not like I know that he's strapped up right I know I'm not going anywhere but here

And I know there's no one here. There's no one here. It's true. Or else I'll just call the CDC on your house. Yeah. Get y'all fucking. This is a high security environment. Let me find out.

Josh has a machete. He's going to book me for an interview and I get here. And there's people here to fucking stomp me out. No, that doesn't happen. I'm shutting you down so quick. Not in the valley. Who would want to do that to Taz though? You really got smoke like that?

Huh? You really got smoke with anybody like that? No. Do you have like any cartels after you, anything? No. No. that shit don't happen in the beat making world bro i haven't left my house since november bro really to be honest with you

really but as a producer you don't really ever have to leave the house right yeah well i mean i got three studios in my house that's why i moved on my new house in an seno right three studios all at the same time cranking yeah so what's that like for you are you sort of scurrying between the three studios just sort of seeing what's going on in any given time yeah pretty much yeah i got artists now to where i don't have to hold their hand through everything. So, like, I, they are just like, I'm fans of their music. Not saying I'm not fans of no one's music, but I'm fans of their music.

So, like, I just give them the trust to go do whatever, and they just bring me cool shit. And I'm like, I just basically tell them to throw a bunch of shit at the wall. I'm like, and my job is to dictate what's good and bad. Because it's like a mom with their kids. Like, no one ever thinks their kid's going to be ugly. You know what I mean? But that's like them with their songs.

They don't know what songs are good. They don't know what songs are bad and they depend on me to kind of guide them. It's kind of crazy because you have like an ability unlike pretty much anybody I've ever met to be able to see an artist at one stage in development and see the potential or see what they could become. Like I've just seen you over the years and, you know, definitely seems like, you know, there's been plenty of stuff that didn't work out for one reason or another, but you, like, it's kind of crazy the extent to which you can sort of, I've seen you take artists who I was,

totally familiar with their music they were donating on live stream and shit and then a couple months later I realized the test Taylor signed them and all of a sudden they're like a lot better like you saw the potential in them like you really have the ability to sort of spot that I don't think that I'm different in that way I don't look at it like that I look at it like I'm just a normal person in this shit and everybody else is so busy overthinking everything and I don't overthink anything at all I just like that shit play out. And I got a really good team of people around me who,

we just all work well, good together. There's no problem. So you were actually satisfied with the state of affairs right now because there was a while where, you know, Taz Taylor was the guy who was angry as fuck at the label and was not happy with a lot of things going on around him. You seem a little mellowed out. I just think it all has to go back to like, What? What can I say? What can't I say? You say whatever.

This is like being with a therapist. Nothing you can say here will violate any NDAs or federal laws. I was just in a bad situation. And for a lot of times, I couldn't speak on shit because of who I was in business with or who I was signed to, like label shit. Like I was getting told to like delete my fucking Twitter and delete my Instagram. Okay. So they really didn't like you being argumentative on Twitter? Nah.

But I don't do it to be argumentative. I do it just because like... You hadn't really seen the downside of getting into those arguments? No, I've definitely seen the fucking downside, bro. Like, I've seen a bunch of shit. There's people who literally like associate me with who the fuck they think I am whenever they they read tweets. They don't know who I am as a person.

They don't really hear like my tone. a voice. Right. And they don't really know like the whole story and you can't really fit the whole story because it's probably wrapped up in some personal shit that doesn't need to be fucking public. And on top of that, it's too much to fit in 140 fucking characters. Okay.

But was your Alamo deal something that you were genuinely excited about and then it went bad or do you feel like when you got into that deal you just didn't really know what was going on with the industry and you signed a deal that you weren't happy with? What was that situation? No, I don't blame. It's not like I signed a deal I was unhappy with. It said, I knew what I was getting into deal-wise. And you do that as a music producer.

You do that as someone in the industry. Like I signed a pub deal with APG August 31st, 2017. Right. I was talking about getting my own label six months later than that. Nobody comes in the industry that quick and gets a label that fast. It's just a bunch of shit went off in between that time. So it's like I knew what I was getting into whenever I did the deal. It's just that me and they didn't understand that like my business and my shit, how it goes is like, I do more than what I'm supposed to do.

I do more as a producer. I do more as a label executive. I like live with these kids, bro. I stay with these kids every day. I see them. I'm heavily involved in their life. I know what goes on in their personal lives. I try to do what's best to look out for them.

I bring a lot of them out here when they don't have anything. You know what I mean? They'll be working at Walmart. They'll be doing whatever. I bring them out here. I give them a place to live. I don't charge them anything. I give them beats.

We record music. I pay studio time. I buy them clothes. I do a lot of shit. Then it's not like I'm expecting anything from this. It's like I see what they could be. And I'm like helping with that. But so you felt like the label didn't understand the extent to which you were.

Exactly. They didn't understand how I worked. So with them it was just like they wanted to be their show. and about them and their whole thing. I signed Trevor with them. I took Fallin to get like 10 million streams, 15 million streams on its own with no help. They even label shit, they even uploaded.

They didn't even get New Music Friday as an artist thing. Trevor would tell people right now was one of the one of people who's really fighting for Trevor. And it's just like, they don't really understand the dynamic. The shit never worked out because of my personality, how I am, kiss nobody's ass and they wanted me to kiss their ass and basically like smile while i do it

wipe my fucking cheek off so you felt disrespected by alamo in general and you felt like yeah but i mean i've squashed that shit since i'm in a better position to where like i got a good partner who understands and he understands how i works and like i'm not i'm not like traditional people don't i kind of someone told me this yesterday said i move how executive move in the 90s. Like, I'm very, like, I'm very brash. I'm very upfront. And, like, I fight for my team. I fight for my people. And I don't, like,

back down for anything or anybody. And I went to wars with labels. I went to wars with artists. I went to wars with everything over making sure to, like, at the end of day, like, the intentions of shit. Just business was done correctly. You know what I mean? Right. So how hard was it for you to get out of that deal?

Because I remember at one point, the word on the street was, like, tas to, like, at first the word on the street was, like, Taz Taylor has a publishing deal with APG and a label with Alamo at the same time and people thought that was kind of crazy that you signed both of those deals in a short period of time and then it's like oh no Taz has a deal to 10K projects while he has a label deal with Alamo and people were like wow that's really bugged out Is that how that happened? No, it's not how that happened You're trying to get me caught up That's what I That's what that's what we do here We just repeat rumors that we heard

It's not how it happened Okay Fucking Keemstar But that is not what happened Okay It wasn't like that No bro So

The Alamo shit was just a whole different Thing bro Like it was a lot of the shit They wanted me to do I really didn't fuck with Like their vision on shit The shit They wanted me to sign

I remember one day bro I'm getting a phone call And this is after like I haven't talked them a couple days because we just got done yelling each other and this is the first time I talked to them and they call me and they're like hey I'm like what's up I'm like they're like you should sign

tiny meat gang I'm like the YouTubers bro like come on bro like is this a joke? Right I mean like that's no disrespect to them but it's just like that's how I felt like they were taking my shit like it wasn't serious right and I like this music shit is the most serious thing to me right so don't play with it

yeah you can't just tell me to do some shit like that no I mean that was my experience with the label that I was signing with too is that like they tried to get me to sign skinny from the nine they tried to give me a sign a whole bunch of artists that I didn't like and meanwhile I said no I'm I'm going to sign draco the ruler and they said no and I mean I kind of get that because draco's been in jail ever since so I guess like maybe not the worst idea on their part but you know it's like for people like it's going to be hard to work within that system like when you look at the a and rs who work at labels they got to just like swallow their pride and suck it up and take a bunch of shit all

the time. It's not about A&R's ever. They're pretty much just a middle man. You can get an A&R excited on somebody and nothing happens. Right. But like for you, you know, you're just used to like doing your own stuff and like you just want a label that's going to support you and help you with that. Meanwhile, like, you know, if they're trying to like really tell you what to do, it's just not going to fly, right?

I don't see you as like I don't think it's like if you approach it as like we're trying to tell you to do something and you better do this or fucking else. then it's a problem but if you come to me like Taz I'm advising you I think this is a good idea you should do this or we should do this it's all about it's not about what you say it's about how you say it

that's true yeah a lot of people the only thing I want is just like respect and I give people respect as it's giving to me like I'm a firm believer of that if you come to me and you're cool I'll be cool with you I'm very respectful to man I feel like that you're playing with me or it's disrespectful then it's all games are off like

I threaten to drive my fucking GWagon through people's front of office in the industry I really have right but it's like it all comes to back just like playing with me like don't fucking play with me uh-huh why I come from and the shit I grew up around and the shit like I had to work 10 times harder than everybody else to get here because I dropped down the seventh grade because I didn't like I come from a small-ass city of Jacksonville I ain't shit having a Jacksonville right if y'all knew the background of my family history and the shit that goes on the shit I had to come from

is just like colossal there's no hope so it's like I just want respect from people I feel like I've done enough at this point to get respect and that's not me being cocky or me being egotistical because I don't wear chains for that reason

I don't want people to come off cocky or egotistical to people I'm a very like conversational person I'll talk to people about shit I just want people to see my side of it but so you're totally satisfied with your situation with Elliot now how does that work like you just

bring them new artists all the time and like how much of the decision to sign somebody is yours versus yours and his collectively. Elliot is, for those of people who don't know, Elliot's 10K projects. That is my business partner and I do artists do 10K projects with Elliot Grange. I'm not signed to 10K projects. It's not like that. So you don't have like a label deal per se? I mean, I have a I have a agreement with Elliot and if I wanted to, I could take artists to there. We have a label under 10K but I'm not signed to him like that. It's like a partnership. But so if you met an artist tomorrow and Elliot was like no, I don't even, no, no, no,

it's never been like that. Elliot's literally told me I can go sign. Right. Of a five-year-old kid or a 40-year-old woman who's like has no arms and no legs, he don't care. Oh, I love that. He's just saying it like, he believes in me so much. And he literally calls it the Tad show is what he says.

He's like, this is the Tass show. We got to let Taz do whatever he wants. And like, I'm not saying I'm fucking Kobe Bryant. out here with this shit because I'm not I shoot shots and they miss like that happens everybody misses but I feel like he feels like I'm gonna be right more than I'm wrong right and you just take those those risks you know what I mean so with the Trevor Daniel situation is that just in your mind is that just something that you're just not going to be involved with now because he's still stuck being signed Alamo or what's going on he got he's like Interscope oh okay he's

in his so no no no like if you know Alamo is a label of Interscope so they're still still involved and that's all cool. Like I talked to Trevor whenever Trevor dropped his album, me and Trevor texts to each other and I think it was just like a weird thing because I had to buy out of my deal with a label where I signed him there. So it's just like he probably felt abandoned in a way. But it's just like. That's definitely like the narrative that some people online try to spin, right? Yeah, but it was never like that. And Trevor's never looked at it like because the problem is it's just like whenever I bought out, Falling wasn't doing its thing. It was doing like 145,000 streams a day on Spotify which is really good for an artist. I'm talking about it

wasn't like the two million streams a day it was doing it wasn't like a big ass record. After I left and bought all my deal and everything that's whenever the TikTok went crazy and blew it the fuck up. So I think just I don't want just be in the type of person I am. I don't want people to think like I'm like trying to take credit for that. I know what I did on that record and Trevor knows what I did on that record and it's one of the best records that come out. It was like The chart came out of day. It was like ninth most streamed song of the year. But it's like, I know what I did on that record.

He knows what he did on that record. We know what they didn't do on that record. So I don't really need to like try to stand on his shoulders and try to act tall right now. I'd let him have to shine and do his thing. Like he's a talented artist. When you have an artist signed now versus when you first started your career, do you get less attached to them now because you've seen it go bad a bunch of times? You've sort of just had relationships slowly fizzle out.

What is bad? You know, you've had situations that clearly just didn't work out where you ended up hating the person or where they ended up not liking you. I feel like at the end of the day, I give people opportunity. Right.

And people may slack on that because I do give, and I'm the first person they're like, kind of exchange something. You know, I've given you an opportunity to come out here

and not just change your life but change your family's life and the only thing I require is just people to work hard and understand. Like, I'm going to keep it real with you. I'm like a football coach and whenever you fuck up,

I'm going to expect you. to come do fucking suicides in my fucking not literally but you know what i'm like i'm gonna bust that ass whenever you don't do what the fuck you're supposed to be doing like and i that's the reason why a lot of people are successful go go let go ask trevor Trevor wouldn't be where he is right now if i didn't get on to him like that not like beating like fucking abusing creative people but it's just like like a coach bruh like you want the best for them and you they got to understand what they need to be doing this right but do you deal with a lot of people who really aren't used to being talk to in that kind of way or aren't used to having somebody really try to like instill

work ethic in them no yeah there's there's definitely this type of people it works on certain people don't i think bro like whenever i was on the internet before i even jumped to the industry i was going crazy on fucking fucking Kanye to them periscope breroscope bro i was on caroscope periscope with a fucking ar-15 just going crazy i think people know what they get when they're fucking with me and like I'm crazy, but I'm passionate about the shit. I just want people who also has that same passion for it. Do you get banned from Kanye to them? I got banned from Kanye to them.

I docked somebody. I was a troll, bro. My dad left me when I was fucking three. He came back, gave me a computer when I was like eight or nine. I would sit on fucking like 4chan all day, bro. Right. From like then to now. Just a little edge lord?

Yeah, just crazy. Like not really diving in the deep web, but you know, skimming my telephone. Okay, so what were you checking out on the dark web? You're a TJX, six in it? I mean, bro, no, I'm not, nah, but you are on... The red room, you hit a red room? I'm just saying, you go on there, it leads to other shit, you know what I mean? I've heard.

It's like the gateway. I think there's some wild stuff on there. You ever see a horse have sex with someone? I mean, bro, I've been on the internet for 20 fucking years, yeah. Really? Yeah, I don't look it up. I thought you see the shit. Like a quick little, like, gif of it happening.

No, you see the shit when you scroll on, like, message boards or forums and shit, I'm very deep. I dropped down. So that was the way I learned about life was through the internet. Yeah, it scarred me. One time I saw a dick in a cat's mouth. And it just, I still like. I do not.

I kind of can't get it out of my head after all these years. So you still be thinking about. That was like 15 years ago. And I still like, it just really like, it was the kind of thing where you're scrolling through a message board and you just see like somebody like bomb the board with like crazy shit. How many times a year do you think about this? A couple times a year.

I want you to think about this. Don't worry about what they got to say Maybe it's why I'm so close with my cat now It's because I've seen what a cow's life Could be like That's my standard for a cat Don't You're gonna get shut down by Peter bro

They should be applauding me Why? Because I'm not fucking my cat You're just promoting it No no no I'm totally against it Now people are gonna go look this shit up I'm taking a stand against it dude You're taking a stand

I'm 100% anti-cat fucking I think you're informing people on it I mean I was just doing an interview with China Mac And at one point he's raging into the camera being like, if you attack an old person in public, you are a bitch. And I'm just sort of thinking like, yes, like I am 100% anti-attacking elderly people in public. But my man is, he's very passionate about it.

You got to respect the passion. You know, because, okay, when I think about my life, I spend years and years as basically like a dude having a BMX house where I would have fucking eight BMX dudes. who are, you know, 18 to mid-20s, roughly with me all the time. We're going out in the van every day riding bikes getting footage. That was just my life. And that's why I was good at running that kind of brand is because I was so up close and personal with what was going on in that world. And when I look at you, I see you as being 100% the same thing

where it's like you're successful because you actually live this shit 100%. A lot of people try to like, you know, go home and have a normal life. And then they like come into work and they start fucking with the music and stuff. You being there and actually being down to be in the studio environment every night, all night is. I mean, you've been in a studio, man. It's a lot of work, yeah. Especially to keep artists happy and, you know, you never know what the fuck people are doing in their own time. I was talking to Typhontein on here the other day.

Taifontaine. And he struck me as somebody who seems like a very good match for you because he was just describing, like, being in the studio, working on music for months and months. And he did not seem like he minded at all. He was like 100% down. Yeah, the thing with him is I don't have to tell Ty to do anything. Right. Ty just pulls up.

I'm out back. I'm kicking it. Catching a vibe. He pulls up and he'll just go do 10 songs. And he'll just pop out when he's done. It'll smoke and we'll just kick it. But that's like, it's good. And I just go through and I'm like, all right, cool, we get 10 songs.

He already knows how it work. I'm going to look at this shit. Like, boom, take seven of them. We'll keep three for something else. But when you first brought him in, how much coaching were you really doing in terms? Like, because I knew that his music was. was solid, but I then saw him start working with you, and all of a sudden his shit got like really good.

Like his new project, I was crazy impressed when I listened to that. It was, I don't think I, like, taught him how to make music. He was, like, doing that. There's definitely been cases where I had to do that. The thing with him is he's just, he can do everything every rapper does better than every other rapper. So it's like, I literally just speak to him. I think for the longest time, the coaching wasn't with me.

music shit. I think it was just like him being around and seeing how we move and how we work and like how shit goes and kind of like our standard. You know what I mean? And like how he's seen people come in get fucking chewed out because they don't want to work and I got to basically be the artist for him or people that don't want to be a fucking artist. Like I can't want it more than you want it. But he was there through all that. Whenever he wasn't getting studio time and artists don't want to show up to it. He's up in there and he fucking does four songs. He's up in there and he fucking does four songs while they show up and it was a fucking hassle for them to get there and they maybe do one song you're really be willing to work your ass off in that environment

he sacrifices a lot yeah he was living in my garage bro right literally living in my garage going to bed doing 10 songs a night for too much straight until now you ever have any like crazy shit happen from having like a dozen fucking young men living in your house like anything could happen right like i was asking tie like do girls come through and does it ever get crazy and he's like oh no because we only bring girls that are respectful and and know what's going on and i'm like i'm like there's no way that you could know beforehand like some of the craziest girls ever met my life seemed totally normal when i first met him uh yeah females do be coming in there in my house crazy shit do be going on and it's my job to be everybody's goddamn stepdaddy

Right. So how often do you have to get involved and really tell somebody like, yo, this girl can't come around? No, no. She's bad for you. Never like that. No, not like that. It's advice. It's not like an order. Nah, it's never even like, I don't never tell them do or don't because I only get involved in people's like situations. If they are feel confident enough, like think about it, bro. Big-ass house full of people. There's producers in here ages from 28 to 17, right? And this house working. If you feel confident enough would have a big house full of people. There's producers in here. Ayeshaven enough would have. girl to bring her around 12 other guys must be something serious brun you know what i mean you just ain't bringing no random girls to the to the house i should like 12 producers though because i've definitely brought girls around like a bunch of rappers and then realize pretty quickly that it wasn't a good idea no i got rappers in the house all the time oh okay you got rappers too i got right yeah you're

yeah bro like people be coming to the house a lot people be coming through the house like it's like i don't know i just don't mix the two and i just i just get people advice you're if they ask for it. That's all I do. They come to me and they're like, so-and-so happened or this is not happening. How should I handle it? And I'll give my advice on it.

Because I'm 27 years old, so it's like, you know, I could offer them a little bit of advice. Could you ever see yourself? Or do you have your own space that you can sort of retreat to or do you're dedicated to just living in that environment? Do you ever feel like you need space?

But, yeah, but no, I can't. The minute I step away from this shit and I don't move how I'm move and do what I do, There's a lot of people who's like depending on it. So it's like I feel like as I've let go of like I don't want to say the word control. I don't want to say that because that's like a very overpowering word. But as I've let go of like the reins, right? And let other people kind of delegate and do their jobs.

Shit just got fucked up. Right. Because like at the end of day like if I'm signing an artist just because I'm passionate about them, if I'm signing their producers because I'm passionate about them, I have a vision for them and they understand that vision and we're moving together on it. my job is I ain't got to get everybody else to know what I mean, this artist have something that we're trying to get done.

You know what I mean? And I ain't got time spending two weeks trying to get people excited about new artists. Definitely. I mean, it's just sort of like, it's a crazy lifestyle that you sort of carved out for yourself because of the fact that you become like really close and like super good friends with these people

but knowing that there might be a shelf life on this relationship. Like, is it ever like a kind of thing where you start working with an artist and they just, and they want to be recording every day, every day, but then eventually you're just kind of like, you know what? Maybe I was wrong. Maybe your career is not going to turn into anything. I got to, you got to get out of here.

I think it just gets to a point where once I'm giving more than I'm getting, in terms of like, if I'm the one waking up every day telling you what you should be doing in terms of like the music you should be making, if I'm telling you need to do fucking TikToks and trailers and maybe, hey, bro, go go get, go pick out. outfit go do a post for Instagram go do shit like that if I'm having to do that to a over excessive amount and I'm basically it's like a fucking Sims character brand I got to click and tell you when to go fucking piss go do all that I'm not interested now I just tell you to go on somewhere but what if their music is like really good what if they're really capable

if they're like the next trippy red but like you know trippy red is like curating his own existence on Instagram if he's like really good musically but you have to do all that work for him I think everything is just about a conversation if people are open to being not like if they're open to the situation that they know they're getting into it and I'm like if they want my advice and they want my help

and they want all that shit, cool. It's not like always you better do this and this needs to get done or fucking else. It's always just like they know I'm the one person who's always going to keep it real with them no matter what if I don't like something I'll say I don't like it and they respect that and not every artist is easy to work with. There's a lot of artists who are very hard to work with

and that's kind of what makes this job grueling is the fact that there is difficult artists to work with but you got to work with them. But in terms of who lives with you, are you at this point just committed to really only working with artists that you fuck with, that you respect, that you like the way that they act towards you.

Because a lot of times you might find somebody who's a really amazing artist, but they're a fucking asshole, and living with them is just impossible. No, I don't require everybody to live with me at internet money. I got artists signed to me that I just see they come out here and they work, like two rays in Philadelphia

has a big song going crazy right now called like Big Dripers. I don't have like that much of a relationship with him he goes and does this thing whenever he comes out to LA like we work and it's my job to handle the music on that but it's not like he's living with me

where I'm like all right bray you're not fucking putting the toilet seat down like all right bro get it together you could like deal with people in different capacities every situation is different and like I think it all depends on just everybody's attitude like I said it all goes back to like just being up front

and being honest right but how much do you feel the needs to get involved in the promotional stuff like that, like telling somebody to make a TikTok or like, you know. You'd be amazed. What? So you get all up in it? You, you, you trade dance routines. That's like promotional tools now as a label.

Right. But you come up with the dance routines for this time ever? No. No, I sit back with a camera and watch and laugh. And you watch the kids come up with it. Come on. Come on. I'm not going to dance on TikTok.

I'm over here watching the kids do it. Come on, bro. No, bro. I'm just saying, my girls always like, oh, let's dance on TikTok. I'm like, no. These are not kids. I am a 27-year-old man. These kids.

are ties 20 spirit's 20 Alec is 19 19 these like they're young men okay but when does it become weird because I definitely went through that where I was like a 24 year old dude with like a house with like a whole shitload of BMX dude sleeping on the floor and then one day I'm like 33 and I'm like oh wow this this doesn't feel the same or people might not perceive this as the same as when I was 10 years younger nah I don't think of it like that it's kind of weird It might come around eventually. I've never thought about it like that.

Really? Never. I've never been like, all right, this is getting kind of weird. Right. Because it's not. Like, I'm... The commenters will let you know when they start thinking it's weird because... I mean, I'm not going to be like fucking Hugh Hefner with a fucking slew of playboy producer bunnies.

He's fucking running around the goddamn house. Nah, bro. Like, I think I had to do it like this because I'm kind of teaching these people how to be like... I'm like a father figure to a lot of these people, bro. Right. And I don't mean that in like a weird way, like a real like I'm a lot of people in our money. We didn't have dads and shit growing up. So there's people in our money, the older people who like were kind of that for a lot of people.

Right. Like I just feel like safe. It's safe. A lot of people online, it's weird how there's that impulse to make it like a creepy thing. If you're like around dudes who are younger than you. But it's like, why does it have to be a creepy thing? From my perspective, there's a lot of BMX riders that used to fucking sleep on my couch that will tell you. you that I had a huge role

in them basically like figuring out what the fuck to do with their lives. I mean, how old is like the Faze people? Yeah, yeah. Well, I don't know how old Fays Banks is. I've been around there and they're doing like crazier shit than I'm doing shit that's like and the Fortnite bosses. You know what I mean? Like I'm just in a house making music, bro. I'm not

doing nothing weird. I'm not running around doing challenges or pranks. 14 killing it and also yeah, they have crazy ass parties with like alcohol and rappers. I don't do that. I used to have the L.A. parties. I used to be him until you got to clean up them LA fucking parties and ain't no one there to do the motherfucking things.

Right. And then you just like, man, fuck this shit. Right. I don't do that shit, bro. We just work on music. There ain't no weird shit. No one ever thought about it like some weird shit. This is the first time anyone's ever thought about it like some weird shit.

I'm being real with you, but no one's ever told me like, Tad, you're 27 years old. It's getting time. No, I'm telling you what you're in for as a dude because I remember when nobody thought it was weird that I was driving around in a van every day with a bunch of BMX dudes. And then I remember like seeing it. slowly become like people are like why are you sitting at this rail at this high school and I was like well I mean I've been doing this since I was like 15. Nah I haven't been doing this like I don't know because you just got to understand my story bro

where the fuck I come from and all that shit like my situation I was with I have a five year old son I have a baby mama you know what I mean I was in a relationship and I left that shit to come out here and do this shit because I couldn't be able to do it from Florida so it's not like I was always going through the years. Like I'm some eighth grade senior fucking college dropout or something like let's go, still get the party going. Nah, bro. Just like I came out

here. There's a lot of people who leave other situations that they got going on. And we just sacrificed, bro. Like, we don't, you think I want to be in a house with a bunch of men 24-7 bro? Like, hell nah, the shit stinks all the fucking time. You got people because there's different levels and shit. People got different backgrounds. You don't know how

people were raised. Like, I know being a mom my house, my mom, if I would have left a cup out or do this shit. My mom beating me with a fucking whatnot. There was a dude who slept on my floor for maybe a weekend or two and his feet smelled so bad. Have you had any like stinky feet? Like he had a blanket. Shut out Tammy. Shut out Tammy McCarley. His feet smell so bad. We had to get rid of this blanket because he slept using it and his feet smelled so bad. I'm sure his feet are totally fine now. Have you had any bad feet smell issues or any like real bad hygiene stuff? I don't know if you see me, but I'm not getting down low enough to smell anybody's feet.

you didn't have to get low at all it was I mean that's a that's a Pee with y'all I didn't get close to the feet if you can smell his feet I'm telling you then that's a problem I'm telling you you never experienced that's like a doctor problem

yeah what is that they definitely should have been medical professionals involved for sure that's crazy um okay but no I don't deal with I don't deal with stinky feet and if there's something going on the most I deal with it is like all right brack can y'all fucking watch

y'all's goddamn dishes all right bro can y'all I'll take the fucking trash out. Little shit like that. I'm sure you deal with it in the same place. Oh, I used to do with that so bad. I mean, I would have dudes that were living with me that, like, I would walk into the room, and the windows would be all open.

There'd be like 50 to 100 beer cans open. Shout out, Stevie. And there would be flies everywhere just over the, I mean. I just start losing my mind. I'm like, I just woke up. It's like 8 in the morning. I'm grabbing the beer cans, losing it. At least you don't have a lot of, like, drinkers at the house for the most part, I would

assume? No. Bro, these kids are good kids, bro. The most they do is just some will smoke weed if that's what they're fancy, if that's what they want to do. But they're of age to smoke weed. Right. But it's weird because now everybody, like, if you're in your position

and if you were to, like, know that people that lived with you were popping pills and shit, it's like you'd be exposing yourself to a lot of liability. Aside from the fact that, you know, people who are on pills are just annoying as fuck. Listen, bro, I grew up around nothing but addiction. I see my aunt swallow fucking 30 somers at one time, like overdosing out the mouth, fucking foaming hot Cheetos and shit. Like, I don't do addiction.

I don't fuck with people that do addiction. And the craziest thing is, like, these questions you're, like, trying to beat around and ask around about, like, why I don't fuck with certain people or why I don't like certain people has to do with addiction. I don't deal with that.

So you're comfortable kicking somebody out of your life. I'm 100% comfortable because at the end of day, I can't want it for you. You dealt with this shit, bro? You know what people? you've seen this fucking drug addicts and shit, bro? Right. I've dealt with too much shit in my life to get another phone call.

I've dealt with too much shit my life to be woken up again by someone asking for comment on something. Right. So it's like, I don't fuck around with that shit. And if anybody in my life comes around with that shit, they're done. I cut them off. Because I got to do this shit for my son. I got to do this shit for everybody.

There's people aren't earning up money that have kids that rely on me to be able to push this shit forward for everyone. by so they can provide for their families so their families aren't looking at them like they're crazy 26 years old 25 years old still trying to be a producer yeah bitch i got gold records i got platinum records like i still have people dealing with this every day or their money and i got to do what i do i ain't got time to be fucked up off no pills or no bullshit out here no lean no none of this is shit bro that shit goofy to me brer the lean and the pills and stuff it only seems cute for so long but like once you see people like really like itching trying to get some fucking drips.

Brank. Bro, I see it all time fucking studio sessions, bro. Cool, yeah, it's not fun. I'd be in a studio and there'll be real

motherfucking, like, addicts in there, brother. This should be crazy. Every drug that you can imagine I've had offered me in a studio session.

I don't, this is all I do. And I just recently started doing this. And if I didn't start smoking weed, I would have killed a couple people.

Really? It helped you chill out a little bit? Yeah, bro. I used to be crazy. Like, literally, though, but that's because, like, I learned everything myself.

I dropped down. in the seventh grade. I didn't go to high school and mingle with people and do all this shit. I just started selling beats on air and had to pay for my mom's cancer bills. And then I didn't ask to get here. So when people are coming to me crazy, I'm looking like, I'm just doing what I got to do to get to the next point. Definitely. What's good with Ian Dior? You got you fell out? I mean, what happened? It's just some business shit, bro. I don't hate nobody at any day. Like, I did a lot of shit for them kids and them kids of like, we did shit together. that like change their lives forever and changed my life forever and it's just like I will never

let people disrespect them even though me and them may not be on like the best terms but that all comes back to like control shit you know what you said them you mean stacy as well stacey they're like kids to me bro like my kids you know what I mean like they're gonna fuck up and like just like a kid of years you know someone does something that you don't necessarily agree with you're not gonna kick them out your life it's not fuck them but it's like they got to go learn their less and they got to go do it on their own. But what was the situation in terms of like the business situation? Like was he formally signed to you slash 10K or what happened?

He signed a 10K. Yeah, he signed straight to 10K. Didn't sign to me. Signed to 10K. Why is that? Because I had a label deal. Oh, right, at that time. So I wasn't on the paperwork.

I wasn't on shit. It just, that's what happened. So that was what? It's just like, bro, like whenever you're at a label and literally like I take, for example, I take Alamo Records, Lil Teca. And I'm like, hey, bro, this is, I was one of the first people to believe in Teca. This is why me and Tecker is so cool. I was one of the first people believe in Teca.

And I was like, bro, you're talented. I always told everybody day one. I was like, listen, brother, this kid, Drake's going to get on one of his records one day or something. Like, this kid is a star. He's a star. He's a massive star. I brought Teca out here. Me and Teca worked on everything.

I remember playing them the day after. You know what? The craziest studio session I ever had? Little Tecka, the first studio session, we did. We did shots. We did ransom. We did somebody. We did did it again.

We did the score. That was the craziest energy in the studio session. The craziest studio session period. All those songs are gold. Where? Gold or better. And in a three-hour session. Little Tech is one of the artists that is one of the main things that made me look at you and be like, dude,

I can fucking pick him because I wouldn't have been able to tell you that that Little Tech was going to be as big as he was and you saw it super early. He's just a good person. And I just, I fuck with his energy. Right. And he's like aside from the music shit like yeah it's cool but me and him we get each other We're kind of similar in the same way right because we're kind of misunderstood by people people just A lot of people won't fuck with teca because they think that he don't like them when reality teca doesn't like them

He just don't know them you know what I mean shit like that's a little bit of that vibe that he just seems like he just doesn't fuck with nobody who didn't like he don't like the people come around now like he just seems a little skeptical Of people who are trying to enter his life now I guess He said something to me one day I always stuck me He said, Taz, you know why I fuck with you I said, what's up, bro? He said, I fuck with you Because nobody likes you

And he said that Dead ass, we were out of my hot tub No, there's nothing in this world That can hurt my feelings Right, I'm from Florida Where they join motherfuckers They will roast you alive There's nothing in this world

Can hurt my feelings, nothing. I literally, he said he He fucks with me Because everybody hates me And I know that they hate me And I still do what I got to do You know what I mean? People try to get me out the paint

You know what people try to get me out the way They don't like how I move They don't like how I'm very honest and open And I still do what I got to do And no matter who wants me out the paint I'm collecting that fucking rebound When it bounces off the fucking rim That's what it is

For sure But it's like the tech and shit bro I played them all those records I sent them ransom they said no You sent that to Alamo Yeah And does that hurt that he's not signed to Tenkana? Not because it was never

about 10K. 10K wasn't even in the picture then right but like in your ideal world there's a lot of artists do I wish that techa was signed to me on my label yeah of course like I think he's he's one of my favorite artists why wouldn't I want him sign to me but I still get to work very closely with him and I'm cool with his whole team

his manager g like Julian a NR everybody I'm cool with everybody like they're really good people and they know what they're getting with me and how passionate I'm about tech or shit right and I think that's we got a good dynamic they figured out how to make the relationship work you know what I mean certain people i think we're just waiting on

me to grow up them to grow up other situations whatever like they artists that i was on bro like every artist that i went and found or helped find i got told no one i got told no one trevor i was told that trevor was just a songwriter

i was told that they told i was told verbatim he's he's ugly he's just a songwriter and i don't fuck with that because it's like i don't give a what people look like. If you're talented, you're talented. He's ugly. Wow. No, he's not ugly. And Trevor is like... No, it's just crazy, though, because that is the kind of shit that they say. That is what label says. It's so much about image and shit, yeah. And this isn't a diss towards any label or anybody, but it's just how people move

and maneuver like Juice. Right. I was told Juice was a little Uzi clone. Oh, wow. Really? By Alamo? No. This is before Alamo. Holy shit. That's a bad take. If you couldn't see what Juice Roy was doing, then you really should not be in this business. I just feel like there's a lot of people who, who talk shit on earn up money or talk shit on Nick Mirr without having

an actual idea of the shit that we've actually contributed to and the roles we play in the people that they love and listen to his life. You know what I mean? Right. Is like the Juke situation an example of something that it hurt at that time that you weren't necessarily as involved

business-wise as you wanted to be? I was never really, I never really had the relationship with Juice. Whenever Nick started working with Juice, I was still on the internet, but I was still selling typebeat. So like I wasn't thinking like I didn't know the world of developing artists. I didn't care.

I was just like, man, fuck that shit. I'm running it up online. Why do I care about signing developing artists? So Nick and them, they just wanted to work with artists because they were young kids and just wanted to work. So they found this kid, side piece, aka DT, my producer, found juice. And there's people who have real industry jobs who found Juice World. And they say, I got the job because I found Juice, man, the fuck out of here. The kid in Seattle found Juice World with 200 followers.

Right. and help develop him to what he is now. Or what he, you know what I mean? But like, do you? I'm just saying I was never really involved in the juice shit. Right. Like I was there to make sure the business on Nixon was handled and all that shit and like Nick loves juice and DET loves juice and there was never like beef and all that shit.

I think it was just like the minute that they were working and they were doing everything. How do you go from producing records with somebody and like uploading the songs for them, doing the cover art for them to a label coming and. and strong arm in the situation and saying like, no, we don't need you to do this no more, we got this. No, we don't need you to do this no more, we got that. Oh, you're doing this, you're charging this much for this? All right, bet we'll have

someone remake that. You know what I mean? Like, disrespectful shit to like fuck up their relationship. When in reality, it was never juice and it was never Nick. It was never nobody. It's just politics, bro. It's crazy, though, because there's so much money to be made that from

super early on the labels want to get involved. No, no, no, they were always cool. shit. Like, I feel like the label for sure didn't want us working together because obvious reasons and obvious shit's happened where like I've been in studio sessions with somebody from the label and they'll say something smart. You know what I mean? Like a whole different artist session, some shit like that. But Juice and Nick still, they talked and they worked and they did that thing and they created history, bro. Like, they did that thing. And I feel like we all kind of left our mark on that in some way like everybody played a role, like something bigger than others, some larger than others.

but like that's just like a once in a lifetime thing. I know there's like a lot of confusion about exactly what happened that that day would juice when he passed, but overall in a general sense, I mean, juice was not in probably great health at that time as a result of the drugs. Do you feel like that's something like when you sign an artist that there's there needs to be more accountability or that people really need to like stop just accept. that a young artist is just abusing drugs and do something about it? I'm not going to speak on the juice shit because I don't know.

And I didn't have the relationship with juice like that. And I'm good friends with Bibby. And I'm good friends with people that were close to that situation. And Nick is my producer. It's like my best friend right there. And he was very, felt very strongly about it. So I'm not going to speak on the juice shit, but I can speak on the label shit with drugs.

I think it all just boils down to and not speaking on juice. It has nothing to do with juice. I just think it just comes to the people around you. I think it just comes to like friends, you know, like you got best friends, you got people who they remember you and you wasn't shit and you come in, you get a deal, you get some money, you blow up, and then they don't want to tell you no and miss their opportunity. So they're not going to tell you no wins too much. You know what I mean?

It's just you got to eliminate the yesman around you. It's kind of crazy though because it's like, what is the more empathetic thing for somebody like you to do? if you met an artist tomorrow and they were like the most incredible artist you knew they could be huge their music was incredible but they had a bad drug problem should you sign them and then try to help them or should you just be like no i'm not going to sign them until they get their shit together knowing that somebody else is going to sign not but i don't think it even looks like that i think it all comes to i got to just every every case is different there's people who got demons and they got shit that they, you know, they abuse and shit like that, but you would never know. And then there's

people to where it's just like crazy, you know what I mean? I think it's just meeting people and talking to people like, if they understand and they need help with that problem, I'm there to help. But I don't like getting into people's problems because you never know what people been through. You know what I mean? So it's like, I'm here if people come up to me and like, hey, bro, I want to get help with this situation. I'm going to get that. And I'm here with support. But I'm not gonna sit here and stick my nose in your business and kind of like shove it down your throat how you need to live your life you know what I mean it kind of puts people in a weird situation in the industry because it's like I don't never look at shit for money I don't

never look at shit about the I always chase the opportunity every artist I've signed or found or whatever they were not somebody who was big on world star big doing this shit every label wanted it was kids that we really found and we really work with and develop something crazy about so it's like you get in before the fame you get in before the money ruins them you get in before the clout ruins them. You get them before the bitches that they've been wanting to fuck their whole life is now in their DMs asking to fuck them.

You know what I mean? Like, you get to see how people are. I'm not, like, I'm not in the business of going and finding people I don't have a connection with. I don't, I will never sign somebody just a fact I can make a lot of money off them. I sign somebody about the fact of like, do I believe in them, do I have a vision for it?

Am I, how much work am I going to have to put into this? You know what I mean? Like you would, any other investment you make. Time is the most valuable investment. for me. Like how much time is it going to take to break this artist? Right. How much of my time in a day-to-day basis is going to take to develop this artist? But what's the ultimate thing that you feel like you're building to? Do you want to be like the dude who has, you know, the label that has, you know, 50 of the biggest artists that came out over the past 10 years, like 10 years

from now? Is that your goal is to like really define yourself by how many artists you are able to develop and break? Or would it mean more to you even to have like the one Drake versus like 50 you know 1% of Drake's I feel like the problem with that is people are looking at it like the wrong way you're already going in with like expectation

or like a goal in mind like my goal I achieved that shit a long time ago brother this is me this is me having fun anything that comes I can fall off tomorrow I cannot get another placement I'm like very very appreciative of like where I've gotten and where everybody around me has gotten and what we've built and where we got, I don't look at it like

just have other people look at it with that shit, bro. There's never nothing like that. Right, because, I mean, you have enough money that you could probably just chill on the beach or whatever if we weren't on quarantine, but you're still kind of in the trenches actually working on music every night. But there's people who don't.

I'm probably one of the only people who work how I work. Right. There's executives, bro, who will sign an artist. This is your budget. This is what you got to do. This is your day-to-day person. This is who you're going to work with. If you have any questions regarding studio time, videos, anything that pertains to being an artist that you need to talk to the label.

This is who you talk to. It's a different business because you sign a lot of people and then just sort of leave it up to chance versus what you do where you very much sort of micromanage what's going on. Yeah, but I mean like everybody, I'm just passionate by it. My goal with this shit, brats, I just want to, I guess I just want people to, I want to be like Jimmy, bro. I want to be like Jimmy Avine. Interscope.

I want to have every album in the top top 10. number one number two number three I want to have every album on my shit every genre I just signed a country artist really

I signed a country artist how the hell did you even find that he's from Canada his name's Turbo Turbo Turbo Turbo

okay and he's from Canada so it's not racist why would why would Turbo be racist no bro I'm saying like you know that

there's a stigma with like country people and shit like that like should be going if you sign somebody from the south oh okay yeah

you know how it should be going they'd be thinking they make country music, they're racist and shit. But he's like... I don't think Canada's very racist for the most part. I just, nah, it's just a joke that he's not from the South, so it's not racist. No, that was good. No, I was just one... I thought it was about the name.

Oh, not, Turbo. Yeah, bro, I just that's my goal with that shit. But is that the inevitable conclusion of internet money and you in particular, sort of being known for like the rock beats, the guitar beats that you would eventually just be like, I'm going to sign a fucking country singer, dude. No. And do you feel like that's an unfair

stereotype? Yes, bro. We don't... We all use guitars. All of everybody in the money we all grew up playing guitar and doing that shit but i don't think that's what we i feel like that's just what we got known for because our one of our biggest songs is lucid dreams right and the whole guitar shit following that there was like a time period where it felt like a lot of sort of like pop punk type beats were we're real popping and that that style like feels super played out to me there's originators in that shit bro like smoke sacks when i'm true true 100% like i feel like i wouldn't say we're an originator of but i feel like we help kind of push it

forward with it. But I'll never sit here and say we took credit for guitar beats and doing that shit because everybody, a little baby doing goddamn guitar beats. Yeah, that's true. So it's like, I feel like it's just like the instrument of the decade right now. I guess, I don't know. It's weird though because like guitar based music, like rock music is kind of an all-time low. Yeah, I mean, that's because people don't want to be rock stars no more. Yeah, that, like the rock stars don't to be rock stars. I guess. The rappers don't want to be the rock stars. I lost it. Where was it? I had it right in my brain. Oh yeah, no.

I wanted to say it was that. Like, okay, little peep comes out and like very, like I feel like he's one of the biggest people that was sort of known for like a lot of that guitar beat stuff. And then he passes. And it almost felt like that style sort of pass with him because I've heard so many artists that try to do that style sense.

And it doesn't feel like there's really as much of an appetite for it. I've heard, I've heard so many like half decent like ex clones. And when I say ex clones, I mean like like like, like early stage of his career sort of thing and it's like nobody wants to hear that nobody wants to hear a wannabe of the original sometimes i just feel like it depends on who the artist is because you remember when like thug was coming around and thug was just kind of copying everything

wayne was doing and he was taking shit that wayne was doing and mixing it with his own little fucking thing you know what i mean right and like Travis is a combination of cuddy and Kanye and now most of the time when we talk about thug and all the people who are clearly like they're like the originate right we look at gunner and and And baby. I was just listening New Playb by Cardi song. I'm like,

God, this is so post Young Thug. Like, there's so many artists now, and we don't often feel the need to bring a little Wayne in when we talk about Young Thug being the originator,

even though Young Thug obviously was so influenced by Wayne. I feel like when an artist passes away or something like that crazy happens and they're known for a sound, and people like, people just come in and kind of bite it.

It's just like, you don't want to hear it because they know what they're doing. You know what I mean? Right. I hear a lot. a lot of fake six-nines too and I don't feel like people are really gravitated towards the fake six-nines I think it just depends on a case-by-case basis like everyone draws inspiration from somebody like

no one's 100% original and the people who do have like fucking 300 followers on Twitter and claim they're fucking original but no one's actually someone's did what you're thinking before at least you don't have any impulse to like take an older artist and like spruce up their career because that's like when 50 cent blew up that's what he did he went in sign mob deep and mop. Bro, I was just doing this yesterday, right? So I was outside. I was high as a bitch, right?

High as a bitch. I'm sitting there with listening to music. So I put everybody on the old shit. And I was, because I got people earning up money with 17, bro. So they don't remember what early 2000s was like. No clue, yeah. So I was putting them on the game and I was like Sean Kingston. So I hit up Sean Kingston.

I'm going to tell Mr. S.K. to pull through the crib, you know what I mean? Oh, wow. You got a relationship like that. I'm going to try to. I'm going to try to. I introduced you to Sean Kingston. I put Sean Kingston on.

I'm going to bring Sean Kingston back. I got to go big Draco on him real quick. You know, I'm drinking out the gallon. Out the gallon. Always. Patrick C.C. is very happy about this. Patrick C.C. Yeah, what is that?

Why is there like a whole cottage industry of YouTubers who are like held bent on exposing Tass Taylor? Or covering the intricacies of your life. You sort of open yourself up to it by working with so many young artists. I don't know. I think that's just me. If anything, that just shows it like, I stand up for my artist. Because if I was never brought into anything intentionally, like, it's not about me.

It was about the artist. And then the fact they're working with us or whatever, you know what I mean? It's just like, if someone says something about an artist, like, I look at it like they're saying something about me because I spend so much time when I'm so dedicated and passionate about it. So I'm just like, they're not a confrontational type. I'm from the South. I'm a firm believer in like everything has to be confrontational. to break through because people's still going to be fake and have feelings, whatever. So it's like, what's up with the problems, bro?

Like, what's up with it? You got something to say, what's up? And they just, I don't know, bro. They talk shit, but it's not real. But now that you're no longer working with them. If the shit that people say about me, Adam, was true. And you know this, bro. Being in the music industry and dealing with the politics of this shit,

if one percent, if this shit that people said about me was true, I would not, no one will pick up my phone. But what are the worst things that? that bother you the most because like when I think about all of those videos the biggest accusation is basically that you're just like creating industry plants and do you now that you don't work with india anymore are you willing to accept that to some extent that you were industry planning that situation every artist is an industry plant though every artist in the music industry is an industry plant okay because there's people helping them there's homeboys who like

they can't rap and sing but they're hell of culture and they're checking out the new shit putting them on the new game there's people that write for people there's people that style for people go pick out their clothes. There's people who run their fucking social medias. No artist is unscathed. Every single artist. I've seen every single artist. Some way and some, nobody, nobody, period.

I didn't get here on my own. People helped me get here. There's someone helping. People want to label that industry planting. Industry planting is whenever an art, a label signs an artist and acts like they're unsigned. Right. And they're not affiliated with them.

They don't do anything. If I'm the fucking label owner and I'm promoting these artists, how is that an industry plant? Because I'm blatantly telling you what is signed to me and I'm working with. It doesn't really make sense. They just think that every artist

is fucking original and some creative genius when reality, fucking 85% of these artists I get in the room with y'all think of creative geniuses. Not. They have people with them who are.

Are there other people when you look at other examples that maybe you weren't involved with but you see other people doing things where you're like, oh no, that's an industry plant. That's definitely what's happening here.

If I was to sit here and go fucking pick up a goddamn baseball bat and try to hold it, people who play baseball their whole lives will be like, he knows how to hold a bat. He played baseball. So whenever I see other artists and other little shit going on, I look at that, I'm like, yep, they're planted. But I'm not the only people. There's people in the industry all the time

who are like fine shit and like, yeah, this smells like an industry plant to me. Because everybody's just trying to get that fucking check. Well, we're always trying to figure it out because sometimes like I'll hear, I heard a song by a female, artists the other day and I was just like, oh my God, that sounds like they just had the best songwriter in the world write that song. That song sounded way too, that song sounded so much

better than everything I ever heard from this artist, but you never know. Maybe they've been in the studio for six months and they're just way better now. And that's why that song is so much better. I try not to make assumptions at this point, especially when it comes to female rappers, because a lot of people make that assumption. I'll rip anyway. I just look at it like artists or like actors. You don't get mad at it. Terrence Howard because he's not DJ from hustle and flow like 24-7 like he has a thing there's people who write that script for him you don't pick out what the fuck he says but you still love the movie and maybe one of your best movies whenever you get to decide it's just a business and you

understand it like that's how the business moves that's one of those things that's like unspoken on do you ever use songwriters have you signed artists that needed songwriters I've used songwriters because whenever you you did your deal with APG I'm an APG you know that APG does songwriters APG signs every publisher have songwriters but you You do sessions where you'll go in. Yeah. I mean, every, every producer does, though. Because a lot of these bigger-ass artists, bro, they don't write their shit.

They ain't got tongue. They got photo shoots. They got other shit. They got other shit. They got time to write their shit, bro. Right. Tell these motherfuckers, like, I'm in a studio with an artist where they're like, I've been touring every day for the past fucking four years.

Give me a fucking break. Can I get a break? Can I get a break? They ain't got time to fucking write lyrics and do that shit. They collaborate a lot because they got, they go through like different. different experiences in their life to where like a songwriter may be able to make it make sense for them and like conceptualize a song. I have seen some rappers who I would categorize as legendary rappers sitting in the studio with a songwriter basically like writing their entire verse with someone else. That's a different monster.

Right. If I don't know, I ain't seen no one write no verse. Really? If I'm in there, it's to write a hook. Really? Okay. Because that's where the money is, bro. That's where the catchy shit is.

on the TikToks. That's when all that shit is the hook. Right. You know what I mean? If you're writing a verse, then hey, bro, that's a plant. Right, because it should be so easy to write a verse, right? What are you going to do is talk about yourself. I literally came up with this shit yesterday. I'm like, bro, go listen to FettyWap. Go listen to My Way and listen to Fettywap's verse. He goes on for like 48 bars and no one gives a fuck

because you're just like, the fuck is he talking about. He's just saying the same shit and then, what? And you're like, oh, okay, I know why I like this. This is great. What went wrong with Fetty Wop from your perspective? Fettie's my boy. Is he? Fetty is my boy.

Not that anything went wrong. No, no, no. We got the same lawyer. Shown Navarro. We got the same lawyer. Fettie's a good person. Fettie, I'm going to be real with you. And the lines of people I met in this industry.

Number one, best person like me and talk to and kick it with, Fettie Wop. Wow. Fettie Wob, nicest guy. He's always just standing out to me as an insane example of somebody who came out with like a signature style, put out a bunch of fucking songs that all kind of sounded like that style and then it seemed like the public's appetite for that style went away so quickly i don't look at like that i don't think i don't think the appetite for that style in a way because

there's a lot of artists who still bite and oh yeah super influential yeah but that's what i'm saying i think i think i think there's shit behind the scenes yeah like i heard a lot of the label shit too yeah like whenever you come up from what certain people will come up from and deal with what they got to do and you throw a bunch of money in their face and people trying to get a cut of that money and do all that shit you know what i mean like you switch up people everybody like switch up. Not saying he switched up. I'm just saying like it happens.

Yeah. But like I feel like that's what happened. Like at any day, like he went on a crazy run. He's a legend for it. And he's an overall good person. Feddy's like a great guy. Right. Love Faddy.

There's rappers that I don't fuck with that I've been in a studio session where I'm like I'll never do another fucking session with them. Really? Yeah. But Fetty, I don't give a fuck. Fetti ain't had a hit in 30 years. Fettie could call me. I'll get in a studio session with Fettie Wop.

I'm going to try my damnness to get Fettie Wop a hit. Shout out Fettie Wop. Are you too traumatized to ever sign another female artist after what happened with the face tattoo girl? No. I mean... Have you not since her? I mean, I've worked with artists, bro. Like, it's never even nothing like that.

Like, the shit that was made out for whatever, it's bullshit. So it's like, at the end of day, like I said earlier, bro, people know what the fuck goes on. And you know how shit moves and people operate in this shit. And check people's histories, bro. Check who has something to lose and who doesn't. Like, everything people say is bullshit. And if my shit was as bad as people say that I'm as bad as a person, I'd be canceled, bro. In the music industry, I'd be canceled.

But I'm outside of the shit, people don't fucking know me. Because the only time they see me or see my name is when I got to snap on people over dumb shit that they do. I don't never cast no fucking first stone, bro. Ever. ever people always say my name and bring me out and I'm like bro why you got to do this or why you got to do that and the end of day all that shit happened because motherfuckers need attention I don't need attention I don't need anything that's why I don't do interviews how me Adam how long you've been asked me to do interviews it's been a little while now okay and I haven't agreed to do no interview I fired my

publicist yeah I felt like you wanted to do an interview bad like over a year ago when I got in this shit and I was wet behind the ears and it was cool lately I've decided that I just kind of came the conclusion that we needed to have a death chat, you know? I just feel like I don't got to explain nothing to nobody because I know the end of day, like everything I'm doing, I'm giving people opportunity. I'm changing their life. I'm not doing nothing weird. There's no fuck shit going on.

When you fuck with me, you know that my intentions are good. I'm looking out for you, your best interest. And you as a person outside of the shit, I could be some of these people, bro. Why do you think some people lay low, brad? Some people don't want to be seen. Once they get to a certain level? No, no, no, period. There's people behind the curse.

in the music industry don't want to be seen. Their job is to lay low. If I'm in people's faces, bro, and all this shit, come on, bro. I don't care. I say how I feel and I mean what I say and I got here on my own, can't no one break me for it. I never relied on anybody to put me on. I put myself on and

whenever people told me don't bring internet money in the sessions, why do you got these kids with you? Why do you got these producers with you? What are they doing? The artist is worried because you got five producers. I brought my fucking producers and we worked and we delivered records. Whenever you get up, and you get to something, bro, like,

you're not going to, not everybody's going to be happy working with you in this business because, like, everybody comes in with the wrong intentions and they all need something anyways. So the minute that you don't work out, you're going to start trying to blame everybody. Look at this Joe Exotic shit, bro. Everybody snitched on my man just as soon as he got locked up.

Right. And it's like, if you were with him for how long, 11 years, 15 years? Right. And they just want attention, bro. The chick who got her arm chomped off. She was riding with a ride or die. She was a real one.

And like, she actually identifies as a they, so I shouldn't say, she. Yeah, him, whatever. I've seen that. That was like a thing. Yeah. Like, but he said on the new episode, I don't know if you seen the new episode, that it didn't bother him. What?

Yeah, the, they, the pronouns. Yeah, that. It's a they. Yeah, I mean, he had his fucking arm cut off. They weren't bothered. I don't think the last thing he cares about in a day, what people call him. Right. Like, my man is just the lucky to be here right now.

Like, this is crazy. Ain't that the truth. So you got no love for. Carol Baskin? This is all Florida shit, bro. You're probably related to some of them. Bro, I can guarantee you for a fucking fact I'm related to a bunch of them. Did you ever hit up the...

No, no, no, no. Did you ever go to see anything like that, though? Like a weird illicit zoo? Bro, there's alligator farms in fucking Jacksonville, bro. What? Yes. It goes down. But that's just normal.

I told him my mom. My mom was like, well, me and we watch this shit. And it's like your whole goddamn family. Brough. Real deal. I literally have like five uncles who look like Joe Exotic. I was saying that to my girl, I'm like honestly, like from a

New Hampshire perspective, like none of these people really shock me. Like this is not anything out of the ordinary. South, that's my, I'm looking over. That's what your neighbor looks like in Florida. Yeah, that's not like true. It's normal. The specific things that they were doing and like him with the no eyebrows and just being gay and on meth and stuff,

a lot of there was a little bit more interesting than like people I grew up around, but, you know. That's my family, bro. I got an uncle named Bug. I got an aunt named bugger My granddad My granddad used to call us maggots I got a cousin named Skeeter

Right It's real, bro Like that's the South That's hard That's south That's the South But do you identify with that anymore Are we gonna see you in a Confederate flag

Jump suit? No No You're not gonna go No No No Bro

I've been lied to 27 years in my life Why So listen bro He's getting his phone out My whole life, my mom has told me I'm Native American. Oh. Cherokee, Blackfoot, mixed, Native American.

My whole life, my fucking dumb-ass grandma will be like, come to the Okifanokey swamp. This is your heritage. This is your shit, right? I took a 23 in me yesterday. I am 99.2% European. Wow. I called my mom. Like Elizabeth Warren.

You know what's crazy, bro? As I told my mom a couple of days. Before it even came in, I was like, Mom, as soon as this shit hits, like, it was a joke. Yeah. Mom, I was like, DJ, I don't even know why the fuck you're taking that shit. Everyone fucking knows your Cherokee. Right. My assistant is my witness.

He was sitting right away making sweet tea. I was like, all right, bet. Came in, I'm 99% European. I wonder how they got that mixed up. I don't know, bro. And my whole life, I was like, I wonder why we ain't never seen no check for no school or nothing. But I had cousins dropping out in the first grade. So it's like, I guess we ain't never had no motivation.

I guess the shit not real. That's crazy. That's fucked up. That must be such a weird thing to live with, though. Bro, every day for the past, how many days have been, Denzel? Bro. Every day for the seven years that Denzel's know me.

Yeah, bro, he's Native American. Yeah, bro. Like, that's what it is. And I'm like, yeah, that's what it is. There's like a certain comfort and not just being a regular-ass white person, right? No, bro. I'm pasty, bro.

I'm as pasty as it gets. I'm fucking, I am mayonnaise, bro. I've definitely, like, I remember this dude that I used to hang out with back when I was like 18, 19, and he was a quarter black, oh my God, you couldn't pay this guy to go 10 minutes

without mentioning it. No, I was never like that. I was never like that. And it wasn't like, it was like he barely knew his dad. So it's not like he had any real like relationship to like any black people, but he loved to emphasize it

because it made him not white and we were white. So it's like, there is like a weird thing that happens with it sometimes. I don't know, man. I'm fucking white, bro. God damn, bro. Fuck,

I've been knowing. I was right. DC Young Fly asked me if I was black. I don't know that was a weird moment nah I was like I don't know man I come from the south I'm sorry all my friends are of color and so it's just crazy

I can't even say that no more but is that part of the that's part of the internet money uh stereotype right is that y'all just sign like every white kid with like blue hair or something no every white kid would fucking you got some some COCs now right but shout out little spirit by the way little spirit blue hair my boy he's the blue hair one yeah he's the blue hair he's fine blue hair if he wants to switch his hair up but that's him i never told him

make his hair blue. Really? Never told him. He's always had blue hair. And he's the most talented artist in the music industry. I've searched high and low and I've found him. He's mine. So you tell him to make, like, to make TikToks, but do you tell him to like make the odds and stream? You tell him like, get on Twitter. He's trying to catch me in a loophole right here. This is what we like to call a loophole. He's trying to catch me with, and I testify, if I had a fucking Bible, I'm not religious, I would put my right hand on that motherfucker. The left hand, whatever one of is I do not tell them to do anything anymore. Right.

They go do their shit and they come to me like, yo, do you fuck with this? Yeah, I like this. Maybe you shouldn't do this no more. Maybe this lane or the style of these type of beats, the content you're writing your lyrics about maybe that's not what you should, you should wait until you get into that shit, a little darker or a little deeper. Well, do you feel like you're more effective when you sort of suggest it rather than when you like just tell them?

Bro, you got to understand these new kids. They're like, tell me now, please, fuck, I want to know. because they're just creatives. They don't care about like, they care first about just making music and they expect me to get the other shit handled. They're just creatives, bro. They're fucking talented artists.

And I feel like all along, these are the type of people I should have been fucking with. But when it comes to somebody like Spirit, like he has a huge song, does it feel weird that it's still hard to make people understand that he's going to be huge in your perspective? Because people don't really want to accept it.

I think the crazy stigma behind spirit is like everybody knows that he's going to be like on. Like before I signed him, bro, I was getting, he didn't have no team. You know what I mean? Like I was the team. Before I decided to sign him and we did all this shit, we worked everything out. And he has a manager and he has all that shit on his own team. And it's divided. And we worked well together.

It was just me and him. And labels, the CEO of these labels, big labels, master labels, the biggest labels in the game. We're FaceTiming me. Hey man, Grammy weekends coming up. Can we get, can we get a look at them? Can we see if he's fired? Can you play some unreleased music? Can you share the notes at with me?

All this shit. So I was like, I feel like now everyone's just like, he might have one now. Because like they seen tech of shit slip through my fingers. They've seen the Jew shit slip through my fingers. The Trevor shit I had. And it's like, thief in the night. But, yeah, I feel like I finally got. I got one. I got a couple of them. Alligwigdoll's fire. He's a pop artist, Turbo's fire. Two rare's

fire. He's like a rapper out of Philly. Techa, I still work very close with Teca. I don't, I don't need Teca to be signed to me to work with him. Like, I'm very happy in the position I am with him. Right. Definitely. Do you like the idea of getting like your favorite artist to come through the crib to record at the crib? Does that happen often? Is that even a focus? Are you happy to just be in your little gang? I feel like if it's men to B-O-B. I'm from Florida, my whole library I grew up looking and idolizing like T-Pain. T-Pain is God to me. Still even in his day, we had a studio session and where this man T-Pain just had to get

ready for an award show and he didn't really have time to listen to music. But we were just cool in there laughing with him chopping it up. And I never looked at that like, I didn't get to make music with T-Pain. It was kind of crazy. It was like a year ago that T-Pain was saying that he was going to start an Onlyfans, and I was telling him that I was going to cop it. And then he never did it. But meanwhile, Safari now has an OnlyFans.

Which I'm gonna cut. T Payne's a legend. You're gonna cop Safari's only fans? You gotta do it right now for proof. No, I don't have it on my phone. I gotta do it on my laptop. I gotta see it right now. No, but I don't think he's gonna be showing the full anaconda.

There's no way. Yo. I just don't think you would do it. But I'm gonna pay for it. It's $21. It's $21. My man, Safari out here. Aylix's was $50.

I bought that. I don't even think about Only fans. Right. No, that was my first one getting Ali- No. Fuck up. You should sign her. Bro, come on, bro.

Come on. She got face tats. I'm sure she's doing her thing. She's got a fucking poem on her face. Bro. Shout out to whoever. I don't, I don't clown people,

bro. Like, I don't look at people and, like, laugh at them for doing their thing. Even if I don't work with them, it's not like fuck them. I still do my thing. They do their thing,

and I'm sure what they're doing is working for them. Right. We've got to get you sign some street artists. We've got to get you somebody from South Central. I'm down for whatever. Like, I can work with any artist, bro.

Okay. I don't know why people think Like I only pick a certain type of artist But does that freak you out If they were gang banging on the song and shit? I come from Northside Jacksonville, Florida Brow, Don Avenue I live there my whole fucking life

My mom lived in a fucking hood hood artist. Right, but you didn't sign no hood artist Bro, it doesn't matter. My friends like all this shit, bro Like this is nothing, bro. Right. Okay. People just

Because I'm now, I'm now newly acclaimed pasty They want to try to me, I want to see you sign like a young boy style artist. I'm young olive mayonnaise over here Now there's like a whole thing It's like a young boy style artist young boy so popular that there's like young boy

whenever you had a label they wanted you to fucking do a Kodak black ass artist they wanted you to do you to do NBA young boy. I would like to sign a Kodak blackass artist. That's what they're, that's what I'm about. Even now they're like yeah, in Florida there's two lanes there's Kodak Blacker if they're closer to fucking near Tallahassee and up near

New Orleans, they're like young boy. There's no more low pumps. There's no more X's there's no more Santa Cloud Rapids. I mean, that's Miami. Miami's its own fucking thing. I don't really classify Miami is I'm from North Florida that's like to people in Jacksonville Miami six hours away Yeah so it's like it doesn't exist to us like the Bay to us yeah Duval County free tankhead Free take hey tank head and TK oh I was saying tank head I thought you said TK damn shout out TK though

Free TK just saying that makes me realize that I got some crazy ass friends I never met TK or it's TK sorry I'm saying TK I know I don't know. I thought you said TK. TK. TK. TK. TK.

TK. This is all very confusing. I know too many people. 10K. 10K cash. Great guy. She'll work him more. There's a hood artist.

Is he hood? Bro. Turn him into young boy. That is my boy right there. You know what? Get him on a diet and turn him into young boy. No, I don't need to put my man cash on a diet, bro. Listen, bro, this is how I know he's a real one because me and him are both bigger guys, right?

And I'm over here smoking. I'm talking to Denzel, right? And then me and Denzel's going off about nothing. 10 K Cash is sitting over here. And we don't look, we don't see him in our periphery or nothing. We just hear like sweaters, like doing this shit. We look over this motherfuckers, hitting that bitch.

It's a different aspect. He'd really be doing his dancing shit. Like on the way to the bathroom, he'd be dancing. Did you know about the two-see kid before the two-see slide came out? I did not. I'm so in the fucking mix, bro. You are? Okay.

Well, I mean, bro, I've been in the house since November. So I went to guitar center when I moved in. I got weirded out. A producer kneeled to me and called me God in front of the whole guitar center. So from that moment, that's why I quit wearing jewelry. I didn't want to be noticed and I didn't care.

Wow. So that's why I haven't left the house. I was thinking about the day today. I'm like, am I going to get to the point where I want to be noticed more? I'm going to start buying jewelry so that people notice me. You did that already. I had a chain. You had the 22 chain. You had the grills. Remember the the fucking grills? I wore it for like two days. My man had the grills. Couldn't do it. You had the trippy grills. You were going crazy with a grill. As cool as a grill looks, it's not worth your teeth hurting a little bit and having to take it out to eat.

I'm way too practical, personally. I almost wore the golds up here. I literally was. I should put on for Florida. I should wear my gold. So they hurt your teeth at all? No. I could wear my gold flawlessly. Legendary moment. Top 10 moment in SoundCloud rap history is when Icy Narco came on the podcast and he had just gotten his grill put in. And it was like, he's still talking funny because he just got put in. It's like just sounded crazy. He's a good guy, though. Shout out Icy Narco. guy Florida Florida boy another Florida boy did you see the guy who got let out of jail because of the coronavirus kill somebody that's Florida too that's Florida too whatever that guy did to him it must

have been some real ass shit he was waiting that's some law abiding citizen shit but who knows man like some crazy shit if you just have to go right back to the hood where you came from and who knows what kind of dirt they got you hear you see this you might just be right back into the fucking war if you got to go back to the hood where you came from fucking sound like goddamn adam chefner over here As Taz Taylor is saying that I'm too white. According to my sources, he got out and went back to the foot where he's from. I can't believe your pasty ass is called. Me white.

This is like it roasted for being white by. I'm not going to pull it back. I'm not going to say the thing I was just about to say. Could have been offensive. Lay it on me. Coronavirus is, I mean, obviously you're on the production side. Don't fuck up your money. But if you're probably seeing a lot of artists, though, who are like, damn.

Hurting. Tons of money gone. On our side? green grassy Degrassy it's all good The grassy A lot of money

Coming through A lot of money coming in That's good People got to release music Good for you For you touring is kind of a pain In this to deal with it I don't think about touring

Like for artists and shit Obviously it sucks And I know artists That we're counting on tours And shit to go on And now they ain't get money From them tours And I know that like

That's a very big important Revenue stream for artists But like on my side And shit that I got to deal And sit with Like it doesn't really affect people on my side. We don't deal with that. We don't, we'll give you a hit while this coronavirus shit going on.

So whenever you, this shit lives, you can go fucking tour it. That's Taylor quarantined in the mansion. In the mansion, three studios. Diamonds dancing. No diamonds. Sitting somewhere. Untouched, dusty. Really?

Big dust. I move my diamonds to my bedroom. You got to have a safe at least. Yeah, I have a safe. Okay, good. I moved my shit and I was like, I only minute the last time I put these bitches on. Right. I spent like $300,000 on jewelry.

before. So it's like, once you get to a point, bro, and just like, fuck that. Get to hassle. You got to wear them every fucking wear. They get heavy. How could I put $200,000 worth of jewelry on myself? When I know for a fact that I know people that realistically would probably kill someone for $200,000. I don't think about that. Like a lot of people would kill someone for $200 grand. I mean, yeah, bro. Not me, but I don't like that. I don't look out like that. Maybe 10 years ago, not me. but someone who was in my position, definitely. Maybe, bro.

To me, I'm not, I don't want that risk. Northside Jacksonville, Duval County. Right. Definitely a lot of people out there would kill someone for $200,000. It's not even a question. It's not even a stretch. It was a murder capital of Florida.

Pretty much my whole childhood, bro. It was crazy out there. Pretty Joe Exotic. He was in Oklahoma, bro. Joe Exotic, what got? I don't think Joe Exotic could have brainwashed people from Florida like that, live in a fucking trailer for a hundred bucks.

If Joe Exotic was already in PC and then they had to put him in PC because I'm going to be honest with you, he's someone who seems like they would flourish in protective custody. Maybe, right. Did you see where, I just seen something today where he told some judge he's like, I'm all locked up with no access to a computer. Yeah. That's crazy. That's like his last wishes.

He just wanted to be famous. He probably sits on the phone all day having people read comments to him. Raid made the new Tams A article. Why read me that new blog God damn it, Barr. Read me the fucking article. What the fuck are they saying? I never once kid one of them

goddamn animals. I'll tell you that. Imagine someone on the phone with Joe Exotic explaining who Cardi B is and explaining that she is now supporting him. He knows who Cardi B is, Brian. Whenever he got picked up on all that shit,

she was out. She was popping. Maybe, but he's been in a little while. Bodak Yellow was definitely thriving. God, that must feel great for him. He knows who Cardi B is. She's the election. He probably knows now for sure, yeah.

But, I mean, it's not like it's just him. Like hundreds and thousands of different celebrities commentating on this. That know who he is. There's a lot of people, it's actually kind of crazy because if, like, there was never a Netflix show about it and just people who knew the situation, they would probably hate him.

Oh, yeah. But they, I don't want to say the TV show kind of like glorified it, but there's people who definitely see his side of it and sympathize with him. The craziest thing about it is that Carol Baskin actually has, like, a real fan base. She has millions of Facebook fans and shit. And now, and let's be honest, probably a huge percentage of them are women.

And now you have Cardi B, who is a like women's rights icon. That bitch, girl, bad. That's crazy. Taking aim at her. I mean, hey, it's a credit to the documentary maker because, let's be real. Like, I don't know what happened. They could have made that shit like however the fuck they want it. And that's what they do.

They make it look as dramatic as possible. While I was watching it a whole time, like, where the fuck did they get this goddamn footage from? Yeah. Oh, that's the most amazing thing about it is the fact that you. Every single specific thing they had footage for it. Yeah, because he was filming everything. Like almost every documentary I watch after that, I'm sort of like noticing when they're just using like B-roll of like a sunset

or like an empty courtroom and all this shit. Every problem, bro, they had the cameras rolling for every single issue in that documentary. I will never financially recover from this. I will never. This is a goddamn antenna on back of my fucking shed. That's what this is. This is a goddamn listening device. Wow.

bro they even had the footage of my man off in himself yeah he just they was like I was there he walked in like perfectly angled perfectly angled on the guy you just see his shadow like how dude I got a sight if you want to watch some murders

live leak the most disturbing one and I feel bad for even saying this I saw a guy hang himself in front of his kid and then the kid tried to shove the chair back under his feet this is the craziest thing I ever seen that's kind of crazy no I don't feel good about it. I don't think I'm ever going to forget.

About whenever I was in, whenever I was in fucking elementary school, right? Ocean Way Elementary. And you know how they would have computers, right? And they would block certain sites. There's one site that they didn't have fucking blocked. And it was rotten.com. Oh, no. And you would go see everybody fucking get hit by trains.

And we'd just be in school clicking this shit going crazy. For a kid? As a kid. I can't wait to explain rotten.com to my kid. You were on rotten.com? Oh, yeah. You were hit. I mean, it was like the very, very early day.

That's how you know I'm really in this shit. That's how you know I'm really out here. It didn't take that long for me to decide. Like, I don't want to see someone's organs every day. This is not having a positive impact on my life. I mean, bro, you said every year you think about a cat still, bro.

Shit that I've seen, I don't think about until weird moments like this. Where it's bro, oh, you do that shit too? No, I mean, it's not like I brushing my teeth every morning

with like I see someone's dead carcass on the fucking. But sometimes my cat will open his mouth real wide. What? Remember that video? my man looks at his cat and is like, yo, my cat looking dummy thick. Now my cat is thick as fuck, yeah. It's a big problem.

Peter, leave me out of the shit. I don't wear no animal products. That's a rule at the house of the house. I don't even think they make furze big enough to fit my big ass. If I was an upcoming rapper and I got signed internet money and I had a cat, I couldn't bring them with. Bring the cats. Oh, really?

I got dogs. Bring the cats. Go crazy. I don't care if you got a fucking monkey. The cat will shit somewhere. The cat will poop somewhere eventually. I remember APG, bro. Young boy used to have a fucking monkey.

Remember that shit? Oh, I remember that. He said like tigers. That's what I told my girl while we were watching Tiger King. I said, you know that this is probably the kind of guy that young boy was getting tigers from. And he, the exact thing that they described. They're like, oh, people get it and they think it's like a kitty. It's so cute.

Then all of a sudden it's fucking 200 pounds. Bro, people had to clean up. That was young boy. People had to babysit and clean up like animal shit in the studio. They told me that young boy had like animal services show up multiple times to take his tiger away. I am not. a part of this conversation this is Adam. That's just what I heard.

This is Adam. I'm just speaking that somebody once owned an animal an exotic. Young boy has enough to worry about that. He's probably not that worried about. He's fired. About his talented artists. He's doing this thing. Yeah. You ever had a girl stab someone over you in front of you? I'm not that level of lit.

Oh, no. My bitch, I can never see a stabbing. I never see. My girls never had a beef that was stabbed worthy. I threw a, she threw a bottle at Henney I feel like you and your relationship, y'all don't have like these type of problems. What, Tiger King problems? No, I'm saying like crazy-ass problems.

Yeah. Y' don't have like crazy-ass problems. Y'all's life is just pretty norm. I feel like y'all get each other. Yeah, we're pretty normal. The problem is whenever the female doesn't understand and the guy doesn't understand her feelings. So they just go ape shit crazy. Yeah, no, I hear that.

We're on a very similar wavelength of like, let's stay home, let's chill out. We don't need to begin on crazy. But now it's required. It's required. We can't. We can't leave the house. Taz Taylor. What's up?

Now it's promo time. Tell us what we got to look out for before we end this. I got an album coming out with Lil Tecca. I'm doing a whole album with him. The whole album. Yep. Tonight out of love drops, single internet money in Little Teca. Ty Fontaine.

You had him on here. He drops tonight. He has a project coming out. 1,800, April 24th. Little Spirit. Whole project coming out. Alec Wickdahl. the most talented pop artist two rare is one of the most fire artists from philly if you're hip to

the the the philly scene the tri-state any of that check them out and uh yeah man just i got an idea follow my fucking fenceda bas baler how about this i got an idea i've been there smoking big as fucking joints i'm just gonna throw it out there i'm gonna fuck your whole life up go ahead taz taylor ronnie j instagram live beat battle no i don't do a beat battles you're not i got too much respect for people to do the beat battles is ronie j a worthy opponent though that's just the I think Ronnie J is a legend. You guys are sort of like icons of the sort of SoundCloud era. I don't think of it like that.

Okay, well, you are. He's a talented person. Like, I don't, I don't really necessarily agree with beatballing because music's subjective anyway. So y'all gonna rile everybody up for what? Yeah, but it's just fine. That's just your opinion, bro. This shit's a...

It's just for fun. I've seen the Mani Fresh and Scott Storch shit where Scott Storch, no one can go up against Scott Storch. Right. And Mani Fresh just still like tried, bro. You can't. You can't fight with God. To me, it's just for fun.

It's like, look at the Hids. look at the impact you made. It's a nice way to remind everybody all these songs that you have all. If it's definitely positive and everybody's being in support of like, bro, boom, we do it for charity. No, not even that. Boom. We do it for charity. Then you got to do it.

If people are just like, bro, I fuck what this song. What you did is fire. I fuck what you did instead of just like, I'm better than you. Because I don't think we're better than nobody. I don't think anybody's better than us. It's already assumed that if you're going to do a B battle with you that they have respect for you because they're basically giving you clout. They're getting clout from you.

They clearly have to have some level of respect to be doing it. But do you hear that though? clout grab clout grab it is a clout grab I don't do the clout grabs oh come on this is bro

I don't do clout grabs we don't care about the shit go ask Nick Mere right now I do a beat battle guarantee you laugh in your face who should he battle I don't think I don't think

I don't think Nick Mare anybody could beat Nickmere really and I mean that and people are gonna get upset about that and you know people are

fucking loaning up their MPCs right now to go crazy and fucking send their floppy disc our way but I'm telling you right now I've seen this little kid from Virginia

can't obliterate anything that anybody wants to do with Beach. That kid is the fucking, he's Kobe Bryant. Right. And I'm just. You think he's doing a good job coming out from under your shadow? Do you feel like that's an issue for him? I don't think it's a shadow. I'm, bro.

You got a shadow. I have a shadow. I'm Pat Riley. I'm Pat Riley. I'm sports-to-literate. He's LeBron James or Pat. I know who LeBron James is. Okay, well, Patrick Riley was the fucking, the GM of the Miami.

He put the championship. team together Duade Chris Bosch and LeBron that's what I am that's what I'm being known for I'm I'm here forever he's he's the best in the game the best of the best producer I've ever had with hands of meeting and working with wow that's official but every single producer among is fire every single producer okay Rio Leva one of the next up producer he's 17 years old will obliterate a lot of grown-ass man right now he's a weird awkward kid really little little weird awkward kid from from Portland he's fire he's good that's the game though just

You got to get them on there young, I guess. Not even the young shit. I tried to sign fucking flee. Flea's 26. I don't care about people's age. If you're talented or you're telling, I fuck with you. It's just what it is. I don't care.

I'll sign you. Let me give you a deal. I was thinking maybe I should start learning. We'll bring it back. We'll do hard part too. Maybe I should start learning how to make beats since I got all this time on my hands. How long you think they would take before I could make beats that were like acceptable? If you were serious about it?

Are you being serious about you, you trolling? Do you really want to learn? Say hypothetically, I was, I was to put in, you know, five-hour sessions in the studio with somebody who knows what they're doing trying to learn for the course of, you know, however long. Like, how long you think it would... After a month, how good do you think I would do?

Denzel, how long? Yeah, I feel like if you really start out just copying people who are good, then you're going to be able to basically be able to copy people who are good within a relatively short period of time. To develop your own style is where it kind of becomes its own thing, right? I don't think it's like copying people.

I think people are just pushing it forward in a different direction. and inspiring people. A lot of artists that y'all listen to are inspired by people that they get their influences from, like Kendrick was inspired by Eminem. You know what I mean? Like Tyler Crower was inspired by L'O.Wane.

LaWain was inspired by. Who the fuck he was inspired by? Like, it's a big thing. All I'm saying? All the people that come up to me on the streets telling me that they make beats, it can't be that hard to make whack beats. Because I guarantee these people aren't making, like,

you're going to drive yourself fucking crazy. I don't want to. Because your job every day, every day is to go make sense. something new from scratch with no yeah you see what I'm saying like someone wakes up to go work at fucking Starbucks they have a fucking coffee someone made that recipe and they just their job is just follow the ingredients and make that every day your job is to be creative and go make something new every fucking day right that people fuck with that make people want to go buy the record

the weird thing that I don't understand is just like all this drum technology because I hear the drums changing but I don't really like understand like what is happening to the drums and why like a song from two years ago who's your favorite? producers. I don't even. Do you never check for the producers? Whenever you, whenever an album goes. I do, but I don't really understand what they're doing and like what really makes like one producer really stand out over one another from like these days. Like it's kind of hard for me to like really differentiate. So whenever an album comes out, you don't go look at the credits and be like, all right, so-and-so produces. I'm going to go listen to that song. That looks like a hit.

I will think about who produced the songs, but more from like a personality perspective because that's like, do you know that's how I like. understand rap is like you know if if young chop produced it i'm thinking like wow that's crazy to think that this person was having a conversation with young chop and i want to see like what the what the sentence oh so you like you like what he's been doing love young chop he just called me a bitch so i'm at war with him right now i love young chop and young chop's a legend as a producer he's a legend if somebody kills me it was young chop we're gonna hear a story about this in a couple months where adam's gonna be like breaking news i got run down on and a nail poller

he got bigger things to worry about than me by young chop if young chop ends up killing me young chop's a legend out here and he definitely I like young chop people

people forget at the end of the day the shit he was responsible for and like yeah he's going crazy or whatever like he's doing like he's doing that's what he's doing he's doing a six and nine thing whatever but

at the end of day they got to throw respect on the shit that he created and the shit that he birth you know what I mean like the shit that he built up he built up

stars that influenced some of like chief keef every rapper right now is influenced by chief keef every rapper you know what i mean chop influenced that people just got a memory in a day like these are real people and they like contribute to something that you love you know what i mean so maybe don't judge them maybe you don't try to understand why they're acting how they act or why they think how they think i want to understand why he's acting how he acts i just want to understand why he's disin everybody why he's being so negative what is that we're all crazy we're all crazy in this music he's crazy cool bro to be in the music industry bro you have to be in the

Music industry, bro, you have to be fucking psychotic. Do you understand that? Oh, I don't believe that. No, you have to be psychotic to succeed at something where everywhere, have you ever seen had someone come up to you and be like, hey, bro, I rap. It happens every day to you, right? Oh, yeah, all the time. Okay, and what is the first thing that goes to your head?

This person is a fucking psychopath. I want to get away from him right now. Exactly. Imagine Dylan with that type of rejection. I'm just kidding. That's not actually what I think. I know, but I'm saying, imagine dealing with that type of like that label on you. Like, yeah, yeah, sure, whatever.

Go get a real job. Like that shit. you got to be psychotic to break through it's the people who did this shit every single fucking day. The minute I wake up and put my feet on the ground before I even take a piss in the morning or brush my teeth do anything, I'm listening to the records it was done the night before.

Dead ass. You got to be psychotic to be in the music industry and get to a certain level. You have to be crazy. That's why a lot of these artists and shit, they go crazy. Because they are crazy. Mental health awareness. Think about it, bro. Like in order to speak on music that changes people's lives, Think of someone like is influential as juice, right?

Right. To speak on shit that heavy that make people like you, like he saved people from killing themselves. You have to, being able to put yourself in that vulnerable position, you have to be crazy. And as a producer, is an A&R,

as an executive, you get caught up in the game. This industry shit will make you crazy. And I don't like the chop his own shit, whatever, get here if it can make you crazy young chop might be crazy but he might be just the lunatic we're looking for you see man i'm putting some real shit down over here about mental health and my man you don't know you just want more drama no yeah you're right you just want the drama i want

i want to see young chop do good i'm trying to inspire a bunch of kids bro yeah no me too i want kids to be able to come from my situation or what the fuck i come from and be able to change their lives and put on and work with their favorite artists and have their favorite artists you know it's crazy i I ran to Scott Storch once. A couple times. I went over this house. Scott Storch is like an idol to me, a legend, right? Ran to Scott Storch and I was like, bro, you're a legend, bro.

He's like, bro, you're a legend. Scott Storch told me that. I'll live with that forever in my life. Even if he meant, even if he didn't. But it's the fact that he knows who the fuck I am, that's why I do this shit. That crazy shit. The respect.

The respect, bro. Like, I don't, you can, I can make money in. I made millions of dollars in this shit. I've spent millions of dollars in this shit. The money doesn't mean anything, bro. It's all about just, I like being able to add it to, like, the legacy and build it into something bigger. And I'm a walking example for kids everywhere that it doesn't fucking matter what you look like. It doesn't matter what you come from.

My family is Joe Exotic's fucking that whole shit. That's my family. Like, my family deals with, like, they don't know how to read. There's people drop down the first grade. I dropped down to fucking seventh grade, bro. And I made it here. And I'm doing shit with you. Podcast with you.

Like, I'm doing this shit right here. Like, this alone is just like. manifestation and me speaking shit in existence and building here how many times i try to get an interview with you early on but we we already did the exposed interview early on yeah yeah but still like bro go watching it watch the exposed video to then to now look at me bro i was 30 40 pounds heavier i was unhappy in my life i got in the shit i took a bad deal to get in the industry i was just trying to make some shake now i'm at a point where i'm cool like i'm i'm taking shit i'm very passionate about and i'm developing them seeds develop it into something i'm really truly like happy with and like

you know, every people get caught up in a little shit about like who I don't work with or do I work with or do if I don't work with them or why. But the thing is like there's labels every day that drop artists every day and they don't report on it whenever they don't work with an artist that fucks up or whatever. They don't what happened with this artist. So why am I any different? I mean, that's the whole thing with you though is that most people in the industry are just not really like close enough to the underground.

So then why don't people look at that? They know they can get your attention. Okay. So then why don't people look at the fact that I am that close? and appreciate me for the fact that like I am that close to the shit and I am a normal person and I do give people an opportunity

and at the bottom of all this shit me sign are as where they work out they don't whatever I was the one to give them opportunity and I was the one to like tell some kid at some point like look bro if you just listen and we do everything that we got to do correctly

we us team build you'll be able to change not your life but your mom's life you could you know like their perception of you whatever you could start right now and do a whole new life for yourself That's what I tell every single kid.

And those who like, they let certain people get around them or certain people, like certain situations ruin them and shit, I can't be there to defend them every time. I'm just, I'm a 27 year old man. I got a five-year-old son. You know what I mean? Like at the end of the day, like, I got to make sure that I'm protecting myself and I don't want to get involved in situations that's going down for like, for what? Then I'm like everybody else in the industry.

People need to appreciate the fact that I care about kids enough to sit with them every day in the studio. People need to appreciate the fact that I can. care enough to tell them what they shouldn't, shouldn't be doing. Because there's a lot of people out here who take shit from artists and don't give artists to respect. They're getting the creative. There's people who literally rob artists of their creative percentage and tell them what

they should do. And if they don't do it, they're standing on their percent. And that's what it is. There's people, I contribute shit and I change shit. And I just want to be respected like that. That's what it is. And that's the reason why I'm doing this shit. I don't do interviews.

Well, yeah. I mean, that's the one thing about being sort of combative on Twitter is that regardless of what you're arguing about, it's like almost impossible not to sort of get a reputation of just being kind of like an argumentative, like, crazy guy if you do that. Because I used to do that a lot too. And it's like, no matter what, I used to like just respond to comments, just telling people to fuck off.

And I thought it was funny and stuff. And I would have people bring it up to me all the time. Like, you know, you're kind of like a dickheads or your fans. Yeah. I'd be like, ah, shit. Like it's just, it's, it's, you just don't know. Yeah. Because you see just a computer.

You don't see how it's affecting. people the shit you got to say or how they're taking it you you don't they don't see how you're like saying it you know what I mean there's a bunch of shit I feel like people just got to understand that not everybody's built the same way where everybody comes from a different background some people are dickheads I know and I'm very well self-aware that I'm a dickhead and I'm very difficult to work with but like that's the reason why I'm as great as I am you know what I mean like a lawyer take a look a good lawyer not everybody's going to like not everyone's supposed to like you if you're a good lawyer There's going to be people that hate you because you did what's best for your clients and your people.

That's what it is. Yeah. I'm in that field. It comes with it. But like, hey man, we're here. We're doing it. Taz Taylor, 2020. We're out here.

Internet money. We out this bitch. On quarantine. Gloved up, masked up. Adam took his shit off, but I'm not. I did. I took it off. Shout out to Jen.

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