No Jumper - The TK Kirkland Interview: DJ Vlad, TI Accusations, Kevin Samuels, Meek vs 6ix9ine & More

Episode Date: February 26, 2021

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No jumper, coolest podcast on the world. And today we're here with the one and only. T.K. Kirkland, how you doing, man? It's good to see you, ma'am. I like a man who comes in with a leather baseball head. Oh, yeah. You know, I've been traveling from the cold parts of the world. You know, Chicago, New York.

So it goes with my leather jacket, my fine, leather jacket. You've been running around there doing what? Doing media stuff, performing? Shows. I had a nice show, Valentine's Weekend, Club Riddle sold out. Okay. Eight shows, so that was good. Pretty much, you know, you, Vlad, the Breakfast Club, really, you guys changed my career in this game of entertainment.

I don't feel like I deserve anywhere near as much credit as Vlad because I feel like you guys have done what, probably damn near 10 interviews at this point? Like about four or five. Yeah, because normally I do him once a year. Okay. But then he's been reaching out to me to do more. And he's such a great person, you know, to sometimes hear the BS that the people try to give him from not doing black. and not having to understand what they're saying

and people who reach out to me to say not to do Vlad not understand I'm my own man Right You know I'm 60 years old How the hell I'm going to listen to someone Tell me what not to do and what to do It's impossible

But that's interesting Okay so you have you have heard people telling you that you shouldn't fuck with Vlad Right I don't know I mean like to me I don't I've never really related to the critique of him Since to me it's like I look at Vlad

somebody who is an expert interviewer. Yes. Like really, really good at his job. He really takes it. You know, I got a lot of inspiration because I see how serious he takes his interviews. It makes me want to go as hard. Right. I understand some of the criticism, complaints.

But the idea that he's like, you know, really got bad intentions for the people that he interviews, I think is bullshit. It's, it's, it's, what I've learned in my lifetime is over the last 20-something years, the education level has to declined drastically, common sense, and it's just really bad. And when I hear remarks of that and people not respect in another man's opinion, right? Because we all have opinions. And you should always be respected for your opinion. It's like someone coming in your house and say, hey, I don't like the way the colors are, the color scheme in your home. I want you to change it.

You have to respect the person for what they proceed or what they do with their own home, same way with their own life. Right. So that's what I try to project that into the universe. If we're going to extend that metaphor, though, probably the thing that people tend to criticize them for the most is just something that in a lot of ways, I don't know that I think that this criticism really makes a lot of sense, but they basically will try to paint the picture that Vlad has,

negative intentions for the black community or somehow tries to emphasize. I'm trying to play the devil's advocate here. I'm trying to present the argument that they would say, which is that he tends to maybe present a lot of black people, stories in a light that they find unfavorable. Right. And what people understand, there's some people who can't get along in life.

If that person voices say, I don't get along with that person, then that situation to treat him and that person has nothing to do with your journey and how that person treats you. And that's just normal life. That's like saying you're friends with someone, but this other person's having problems, but you genuinely love this friend and just, okay, I'm going to stop messing with this friend because you guys are having problems, but it's also based on what happened between everybody if you had to cut everybody off.

And he's always been good to me. Yeah, and I mean, you've been alive long enough to see that effect over and over in the sense that like, you know, you see people's careers have these ups and downs and flows, the ebbs and flows. And it's like, you know, I often at times find that more, like that instinct to cancel someone is something that I've seen since I was a. kid. Yes.

You know, you're a kid. And like literally when I was 13, I remember there was a girl who got fingered by a dude who was a couple of years older than her. And this was treated in my seventh grade class, like such a scandal that you would have thought that this girl was going to fucking leave the school or something. Because she got fingered by a dude two years older than her. Right. When I look back on it now, I'm like, how did we even get the idea in our heads that that

made any fucking sense? Right. That's true. This shit these days of just like sort of piling on somebody and trying to convince everybody not to fuck with somebody. It feels very high schoolish. Oh, absolutely. That's what I mean by the education level has truly declined.

So I want people to know. I see the remarks from now and then, but I just don't respond or pay attention. I might block you because I feel that you beneath my intelligence and why should I even be following you? Because social media is like eating at Habachi restaurant. Right. You know, you've been to a barchi restaurant,

and they sit you next to people that you would know damn well you would never eat with ever in your fucking life. that's what social media is. It puts you in touch with people who are not on your educational level. Which is so different because I'm sure if you look back to your childhood or even your 20s or 30s,

it's like you were interacting with the people around you. Yes. You saw the guy at the corner store. You saw the guy who worked at the gas station. What was someone in Indiana doing? No fucking clue. Unless that guy somehow got on TV.

It's like the news is going to pick like a handful of people per week or month to like show you. But for the most part, you have no fucking clue. Not to mention what the fuck is going on in Japan. Absolutely. Or, you know, nobody has power in Texas right now. Absolutely.

I know about it as it's happening because of social media. Yes. 30 years ago, I would not know anything unless I was tuned into the news and then I still might not know. And that's the same as impact of death when celebrities die. Years ago, it might take you a week depending on the, the star of the person might take you a week, a few weeks to find out, oh, I didn't know such a such died.

Right. But now you can find out less than as soon as a person died. Right. Before he didn't put the cape over that motherfucker, you know. Somebody will text you about somebody dying, like the day after they die. Right. You're looking at your phone. Like, what the fuck?

I found out about that yesterday morning. Right. And you really have an attitude. And you really want to say the person, I know already. And you used to have people who would say to you, I don't watch the news. now it's like no shit nobody watches the news but everybody knows all about the news yes because everybody even if you just follow an encounter too on instagram or twitter or whatever you're gonna see the fucking news you're gonna see the news very hard to be in my age and since i grew up that way i still

i'm a fan of CNN i still got to have it on my tv i still got to watch um nsbc i could do the stock on to even though i have it on my phone as well um it's just it keeps me company because i'm fine as i've I know the television is just there's nothing that truly can keep my interest. Really? So it's just, you know, I'm paying all this money for cable every month knowing that I really should be saying it for my twilight years. I might need that and my senior citizen home one day. But we'll see as this moves on.

Oh, man. But I don't know, man. There's something about having the TV on where I agree. Sometimes I'll be in an airport, which not in the last year, but I'll be in an airport and they'll have CNN or Fox News. Fox News is like the more inflammatory usually. But, you know, it's very much like you can just tell that there's a constant urge to present the news as if there's something urgent happening, as if there's some imminent danger that you need to know about because that's the thing that is going to actually have people tuning into the news during the election. It all of a sudden feels like it makes a lot of fucking sense to have the TV on because there's just news even during like the protests and shit this year.

It's like there's news coming in nonstop. Then it makes sense to have the TV on. For most people, it doesn't really make sense to have the TV on when there's not crazy shit happening all the time. So they try to make you feel like there is crazy shit happening every few fucking seconds to keep you engaged. And when they talk about Mr. ex-president, what,

bad information that he was giving out about all the platforms. Believe it or not, Fox and CNN is just as bad because if you're giving you. the news about bad situations, you also are promoting bad information. And I think when bad information is being distributed, no matter who is distributing it, you're still getting out the information that this is getting ready to happen. And because nothing's a secret. Right. So when you hear it like, oh, the FBI found out that such as such group is getting ready to do, such as such at the Capitol and all that. Well, if you know who they are, why didn't you go stop it

before it can get to X, Y, Z. Why go look for them after they're doing it? Or why go look after them when you know that they've already planned it? Because I was talking to my son and we were talking about how the people who went to the Capitol and all those people died, no one still has been held for the murder of the people who died. And it's just an unfair situation. Like, no one is being charged for murder. Pretty much most of these people are going to war.

walk away with probation in a sense. And like my son was saying that if Donald Trump and the Republicans was really smart, because they're dumb. They're extremely dumb. If they was really smart, they could have really took over and had some dictatorship.

So they've been doing this and been stupid. Imagine if they were smart and put things together. We were in a bad situation because Hitler was just as bad, but Hitler was smarter than Hitler was spot in Trump Hitler and Trump

The difference is Is that You know I wasn't I didn't live Through Hitler's reign But I've read plenty About it and everything But it seemed like

He really was Really committed To this idea Right Right You know He really believed And what he wanted

To accomplish With Donald Trump I don't feel like Even his most Diehard supporters At this point It seems like They're kind of in

On the joke That he never really Cared about Right And he don't care But he don't care about None of them And they still

Fuck with him Right If you get in trouble, he'll throw you under the bus. They hate the left so much that they're willing to really side with whoever will be their champion. Right. Even if he doesn't really. And, you know, we kind of do it on the same way on the left, too. Because if you look at like a lot of, you know, what Joe Biden is proposing and stuff, it's like, you know, I wanted Joe Biden to win really bad,

even though I knew that he was going to try to take our guns away and that he was probably full of shit about the income stimulus checks. stuff, which still don't seem like they're going on. And somehow, you know, I did what a lot of Republicans have done with Trump, which is I just kind of ignore the stuff that I don't like. And I lend my support and I went and voted for him. And I kind of turn a blind eye at all the shit I don't like. And I try to focus in on the stuff that I think is better than Trump. The thing about Biden, he was being profiled for his past.

Right. And what I share to people about your past is that we all have history. Some bigger, some small, right? but if we are all held for our past, a lot of people don't get second chances in life because you'll say, wow, I was a different person at that time of my life. I'm not like that anymore.

And what I explained to people is, and not people didn't get this when I mentioned this a while ago, if Maya Angelou would have died at 20, she would have been considered a prostitute. She'd have died of a prostitute, but she'd grown to be this famous poet. Right. Malcolm X, if he had died when he was a youngster,

would have been considered a drug addict, a pimp, etc. But as he grew in life, he became this phenomenal man in black history. So we have to give people opportunities in life instead of profiling them, knowing that one, that just helped build their character. And as they grow, as they get older, and all the people are listening, if you grow to be older, if you grow to live a lot, long healthy life and you look back, you'll be surprised how your thoughts are different compared to when you was 20, 30, 40, 50 years old.

The difference is that if you were standing on the street with your buddies and fucking, you know, you used some homophobic language or something, nobody knows. Nobody cares. It's not written down. But if you, in 2010, if you wrote a tweet where you called somebody a homophobic name, you will not be hired by Google. Oh, absolutely. You know, like, you are not going to, it doesn't matter if you're a fucking genius. It doesn't matter if you went to Harvard. It does not matter.

I have a friend. I didn't know that. They go that deep. Oh, yeah. And I mean, you know, I'm using Google as like a specific example. But like, I have a friend, Mr. Beast, who is like the biggest YouTuber, more or less at this point. And he does amazing things.

He gives away so much money to charity and stuff like that. Right. And at one point, there was an article written about him that basically pointed out of, out that, you know, whatever, 10 years ago or however long ago, he, like, responded to one of his friends on Twitter and called him a fact. Right. I don't think he's a homophobic. He's just, you know, let's how some people talk at some point.

I'm sure now he understands. That's how it was when we was growing up. That's the word we used. Growing up, that was the fucking faggot. He's a faggot. Most normal words ever, right. He has a faggot. Can't say that now.

Say it like that. Yeah. But that's how we live in Jersey. He's a fact. You can't do that now, bro. But he has an article, at least one article online about the fact that he said fag one time and there are brands that won't sponsor his channel or are like very skeptical about working with him off that wow so i mean that puts into perspective like i don't

know a lot of times people try to minimize cancel culture and say that it's not real it's just this thing whatever it's just this phrase that people use to you know oh you you want to cancel somebody for saying the n-word right whatever like yes there there are times where people are canceled and need to be canceled But there's a lot of other times where it's clear that this has gone too far. Gone too far. I totally agree. I totally agree. Do you feel it in comedy as well?

You think that the young comedians that you talk to are scared to be offensive? I think we need to encourage the young comedians to be offensive. I haven't really watched them, but I think in today's world, you don't want to push the envelope too much because people are very powerful. powerful and you want to eat. So business and business to me, you have to outthink your competitor. So as long as you're clever and you can still push the envelope or it's not what you say, it's how you say it. You could probably still get the same message across but not be so blunt with it. Blunt with it. Would T. Gay Kirkland ever do a trans bit in the year 2021?

Oh, absolutely. I'll do it already. Okay. But it's a clever bit. I talk about how, to LBGTQ all these years we didn't see it coming they was meeting at the Starbucks early in the morning about 4.30 and we saw them in there

we didn't know what they were doing you know what I'm saying and then think about it they got so creative we walking by we're not seeing what's going on and they formed the union and they called themselves

the LBGTQ and we had no idea and we had no idea and now they're more powerful than NDACP they were the government we thought they were just sucking each other's dicks

Right. Or just have a cappuccino. Yeah. But they are organized. They're powerful. And you have to respect it. So my thing is with them, I'm not against them. I just try to bring how things were when I was growing up.

And I tell people I'm not against gay people at all. It's just that when I was growing up, gay people knew their position. They came out at 12.05. And they went back in at 430, 4.45. And even if they passed, state out past their carry. as they was walking past, they would apologize that they stayed out so late. It's like adult swim. Exactly.

You know, you're 10 and you want to be in the pool, but you understand there's a percent. Right, right, right. So now they, it's going now. So I take my hat off to them because they're not reckless. They have organizations. They're doing things extremely powerful. And I salute them so you could do. I feel you.

Have you felt like, have you had the experience, though, of like telling a joke in person, like live and having people get offended in the audience and then you have to figure out and navigate that. No, I don't care what I'm on. Your audience is not the types. And I like, and I sometimes feel if I don't run you out of my show these two or three people, I didn't do my job because my show is truly about reality. It's truly about life.

And I say the things that I say because I'm like, either I'm going to intimidate you or I'm going to inspire you is one of the two. You know, now this person might think it's, I'm hurting somebody's feelings. But the person I'm talking to it can be, I might have just inspired that person who had a tooth missing. Right. To get his tooth fixed. But this person, oh, my God, I can't believe he said it. But this person said, you know what?

He's right. I'm going to get my damn two fixed because I shouldn't be walking right here with a big-ass gap on the side of my mouth that somebody can see straight to my lungs. Growing up, or nowadays people talk about bullying, like it's the worst thing on earth. I feel like in a lot of ways bullying is pretty much like bullying of one form or another is kind of a thing that teaches you how to actually survive.

I don't know about survive because today kids are soft. Yeah. My age bullying was if you got bullied a lot of people can catch a lot of pain because once you got home

and got to your brothers or cousins and the whole family come back the next day. And when they come back, it could be a war. And that's just the way it was. Today it's so dramatic that people

will read something and want to kill themselves or go into depression. And I just think it's sad that someone can read something and want to end their life. And bullying sometimes helps build's character. No one died. You've got your feelings.

hurt or you had a family member that will protect you but in in today's world to know that it's gotten to this is kind of sad but um that's what the blessings are about the pandemic i think now because only the the strong will really survive meaning if you know how to do online and do school you don't have to be around people you don't like you don't have to be around people who talk about you um because you didn't have the proper clothes no one could um belittle you, anything like that. So it's a good and bad thing about the pandemic. The only thing that pandemic did also too, with Zoom, it realized a lot of people found that their children can't read. And then they found out that their parents can't read. So it's been hell in the house,

people trying to get their education. I do. I feel really terrible for all the kids, basically, who are just like having their whole development slowed down by the pandemic, you know, like that. It's going to affect them for the rest of they're lying. There's so much lost there. Yeah. Just so much. That hour or that year of socialization, let's hope it's just maybe a year because a lot of kids are getting back to school now and stuff. I mean, that when you're in your developing years, I mean, that could really potentially,

I wouldn't be surprised if like 10 years from now or however many years from now we're reading articles about how this specific event of kids not being in school really like slowed down the overall education of a whole generation. react with people, et cetera. Imagine there's some people that would never meet. You know, in high school, you got your boyfriend and girlfriend. You met at the prom or you asked somebody to take... All that has changed. Yeah, the worst thing to me about the pandemic was that it speeded up a bunch of the worst

things that were already happening to society. Yes. Not being able to go to the grocery store and everybody just using, you know, some service to bring you your groceries or whatever. And like, like, that's fine. but it took so many, you know, because the grocery stores are already, like, not in a great position or whatever. All retail outlets are not in a great position, but for people to be forced to have to order everything online, it's just like speeding up. Or, you know, the fact that I,

for the last year, I will not go and be in, like, you know, a club or a bar or, you know, I want to socialize. And that, in a lot of ways, it was like already kind of happening in our society is that people have less and less of a reason to go be around groups of people, but it all of a sudden made it like completely taboo. Like you really don't want to be around groups of people. So it just sped up like what already fucking sucks about our society right now. And last year, 10 years worth of bullshit happened in one year. Ten years happened. Like so much stuff happened. If that would have happened, all this stuff would have happened over the next 10 years. But all this happened in one year. And it's overwhelming.

Yeah, I mean, it must really have sucked to die in 2020 just knowing that you weren't really going to be able to even get any like long form type of attention. You know, a lot of times people die and like they're talking about it for like weeks. That's so true. It's like if you die in 2020, people probably were already moved on by like a day later. And that was my fear. Because you can't compete. You're going to compete with Kobe. Right.

No. Yeah, that was my fear. I didn't want to go out in 2020. I didn't want to be that number on CNN. Yeah. I did not want to be on that number. But in your position, it gets worse and worse. Same thing for me.

It gets worse and worse every year, because every year, more and more people that you know die, and it becomes more and more normal. It becomes normal. Because you know more people. Yep, that's so true. And you know more older people. Yep, that's so true.

And this is an abundance. And then I got kind of accustomed to death because I lost my parents and everybody before I was 40. Wow. So my dad drowned. my mom died of cancer. My oldest brother got murdered by the police. My youngest brother died of aneurysm.

So all this happened before I was 40 years old. Wow. So nobody in my family ever lived to be in their 60s. Damn. Yeah, that's serious. How's that feel to be like the first one from your family to make it to this age even? You do not seem 60 just for the record either. It's hard to live.

I know it's a blessing. Right. And that's all you could say. You know that it's a blessing. I've been doing great things out here because I know my purpose on earth. You know, I'm in tune to that. And it's truly to help people. So as long as I do what I'm supposed to do when I'm here, I did my job.

And that's why I always share with people when the day that your life ends, what did you contribute to the earth? What was your job? Was you here? Did you get pain? Did you get love? Did you help people? You know? And I can honestly say that,

I probably gave all three. Yeah, do you feel like there are big things that you still want to accomplish with your life? Or are you kind of already at the point where you're like thankful to have made it here and to even get to continue to do what you do and to be able to live and have a good life? Is that enough to satisfy that urge? I think I want to, I think the above, right? I'm happy because when I do shows like this and then people, and Vlad and everything

and people can't believe I've done all the thing and they're like oh wait this man this is crazy this man has accomplished that but to me I pretty much buried it because I only bring it up

based on conversation so when I do sometimes see the interview I'm like wow I really accomplished that but determination is based on what's in your DNA right

how you was raised who was around you who inspired you I've been around so many just great people in my DNA I'm just a true winner. So every day I'm excited about being alive.

Every day I'm excited about winning. Every day I create something to motivate me to continue. So even though I've been doing this for so many years, I still have so many other things I want to do. And I think that's what keeps me young and strong. And knowing that I have that to achieve, I just don't think of that. Just think it's my DNA.

And I just keep coming up with things. And, bam, I keep getting an idea because I don't feel my age. I don't look my age. And I don't have an older swag, as they say. And I sleep it all the time. I'm the flyest old man you'll ever meet. You stay in the gym? Stay in the gym.

Right. How many days a week? Every day. Every day. But I don't pop iron just for the next two months for a reason. Just an hour of 10 minutes of cardio. I burn 731 calories a day. Really?

Yeah, that's my goal every day. But you're not lifting weights for the next couple of months? Why? Because I've been doing my whole life. Oh, okay. So I'm just giving my body a rest. Right. So I'll probably just start doing more pushers, more jumper jacks.

I just thought, like, about a couple weeks ago, not to lift. Right. So I've just been really focusing on cardio. You know Ronnie Coleman is, the bodybuilder? Yes, I do. From Texas? He was a fucking cop at one point, and he was the biggest motherfucker ever. And it's super sad.

There's a documentary about him. right now. But when I was really, really interested in bodybuilding when I was in my early 20s and I'm paying attention to all these dudes lifting weights and stuff and I'm watching these videos of him doing like 3,000 pound fucking leg presses and shit and he's got his legs wrapped all

crazy and stuff and now he's so fucked up but he can barely walk, dude. Is that right? Yeah, and it's super sad because he was like the biggest motherfucker in the world. Yeah. See, I believe after 20, you shouldn't bench more than 150 pounds. after 20 you know what I'm saying like I don't bench to be strong and try to

right be something that I'm not I work out because I think people who are creative and people who want to come over ideas oh yeah you need an outlet to think and that starts way back when I was a track star athlete and that's being my whole life so when I'm on the standmaster for an hour I have so much to think about I don't listen to I'm have music in my head. You don't do music? I don't do music. I don't do music. I old school. And I just had, and I'm not, and I'm not depressed thinking. My thinking is positive thinking. So when I'm on there, I'm making moves. I'm thinking about what I got to do when I get done. I think about what I got to call my son. I got to book an airline ticket. I got to do this for

my daughter, for my son. And it's a strategy. So by the time I'm done, and believe it or not, it's an hour before I go to the gym. Then it's the Stairmaster. Then I ride my bike five miles after that then I go to the house but as we get older people need to stay active because hypertension heart disease is very serious yeah I feel like when I look at you know

old people who just die you know in their 40s or 50s or whatever or just a huge percentage of people you see in general you're like well this guy doesn't pay any attention to what he eats and he doesn't exercise with any sort of regularity I mean what the fuck was supposed to happen exactly and I

I explain that to people as well. And they, at the clubs, drinking these big jugs of alcohol, thinking that it's something. And you're going to die in your sleep. Yeah. You're going to keep drinking. It's like putting poison in your car. Right. You know, that's what it's doing to your body.

Eventually, if you keep putting poison in your car, eventually something's going to happen to your vehicle. The same thing with your body, you know. Like, you could have a little something, but not abuse your body. Yeah. Like, I mean, so many people live their lives as if they don't care about the end result, as if they're just not concerned. Isn't that something? I know guys who have, you know, baby mamas or girlfriends or wives that they live with, and they cheat on her, and they cheat on her in such an egregious fashion. And then they know that the end result of this is that the girl's going to find out, they're going to kick them out of the house.

They just, so many people sort of personally self, or intentionally self-since. sabotage their lives. Yes, they do. And really, every type of drug abuse is that as well. Yes. And it's amazing that people don't think about the end result. Right. Until it happens. That's like, I'm going to do this, but not think of the consequences. Right. And all you got to do is watch me in the community, you're going to do is watch the first 48. Yeah. These kids do something and then they get caught. They are shocked at what the consequences are. Right.

And that's sad to me. And I just want kids to understand that when they lock you up, it's not a game. You know, they talk about jail reform and people shouldn't get so much time. And I agree with that. But my goal is I wanted to stay like that. And the reason why, because I don't want people to go to jail. So if you fear all this time, you would say to yourself, man, I ain't going in that motherfucker, yo. Right.

I'm going to do it right. thing. Because if people were really rational, then there would be like nobody selling drugs on the corner. Absolutely. You're taking an extreme risk for very little reward. And if you've even like paid attention to the TV growing up, you know that there's this thing called prison and that it's really, really bad. And that's what I want kids understand. Yeah, I don't want nobody to go to jail, but be afraid to go to jail. Stop killing each other. Right. Stop hurting one another. be fearful because back in 1976

77 there was a program that just started that's still around to this day called scare straight right and I was one of the first people in New Jersey to go to this program as a kid as a kid

I don't know why they picked me I wasn't even getting in trouble at that time but they picked me in group of other people and we went on this bus ride to Rikers, not Rikers Island, Rawaway State Prison in New Jersey. Okay. Walked in there, and some of the most biggest men were dressed like women. Whoa. They had the bandanas wrapped around their head in booty shorts, nuts,

dick all, tight up. People if you saw on the street in regular clothes, you know, they probably can kill you. Jesus Christ. These guys were like, women and i saw that and it just it just it just put a lot of um not fear because i still made mistakes down in my life as we went on but when um you appreciate life that's not where you want to go right i can't see men wanting to be around other men i like pussy too much i like women too much i like um nice things i don't want to be around a bunch of men talking about

who won't get the phone to call somebody that you love that you could have been with because of bad choices. Right. Not me. I'm not going out like that. No, yeah. There's a show on Netflix that I've been mentioning on the podcast repeatedly, but it's called like the inside the world's most dangerous prisons.

And let me tell you something about that. You see that? Yeah. Oh, my gosh. I'm going to have you laugh about this real quick. When I was catching cases, right. I never watched Shawshank Redemption because it scared me. Right.

Because I'm not watching that shit, and I got to go to jail and I got to deal with this bullshit. Make you think about what you're doing too much. Right. So when I watch the scariest prisons, I don't want to watch it. Right.

For some reason, I skip right over that motherfucker because I'm like, I'm not trying to go. Right. I don't want to know the history. I don't care. But I see it on that dashboard.

The thing about it, though, is that if I were, say I had to go do a bid, I'm going to go do one year. I would love watching that show beforehand because going to prison in America sounds horrible. Going to prison in America sounds amazing compared to being in some of these prisons where you got. Like literally there are so many people that there's no floor space. So you got all these grown men basically sleeping in like a cuddle position with each other. Not because they want to, but because there's no fucking space on the floor.

Isn't that something? Some of these prisons, the guards have completely given up. and it's like the gangs really run the whole prison. Wow. Like they can't do shit. People smoking crack in the middle of the prison out in the main yard. People were basically eating trash. Like it's so bad that they're eating like what I could only really describe as like garbage.

And that's what these kids should see to know is not a game. You know it was the most humiliating part for me getting locked up. I was in L.A. County jail and I think I spent like a week there before I bailed out. was when you go through processing and they give you somebody else's underwear that you know hundreds of people have put on. It's clean, but exactly.

Can you imagine they're watching you and they're telling you to get dressed, they put this pout on you and you put on another person's underwear. Humiliating. Yeah. I mean,

even if the only thing that prison was was that you had to eat really shitty food. Even that would be reason enough to do everything and your power to stay away from it. When I think about what I get to eat in a given day, and it's not anything crazy. You get to have some fucking eggs and bacon. Right, right.

A little avocado on the side. Get to have a nice chicken salad for lunch. Right, right. Give me a steak for dinner? Yes, yes. That's something to be thankful for. Absolutely. And just even if prison was like,

you got to keep doing everything else, but you had to eat these like shitty white bread. red sandwiches with a little piece of peanut butter in the middle or whatever, because that's when I got locked up overnight in New York City for 24 hours in bookings. That's what we had to eat the whole time. Even if it was just that, you know, like you kill somebody, oh, you got to eat white bread for 20 years. That's insane.

That's enough reason. Yeah. So I stay away from people, man. I love life too much. I love life too much. But don't you hate how that's kind of the lesson to be learned from life? It's to stay the fuck in your own lane. and stay away from other people.

Being around, putting yourself out in public too much is a, is a danger. Is a danger. I was just interviewing this kid Milk's Seven Foe, who's like a YouTuber slash gangbanger out here in L. L.A., and he's just telling a story about being out, you know, posted up outside the liquor store drinking with his friends and how they get into an argument with some Mexican guy. And all of a sudden, somebody, their enemies pull up and shoot the whole block up, kill his friend. And my reaction is like, what the fuck are you doing hanging out outside the Lerner? liquor store. I totally agree. But I mean,

like most of my life, that wouldn't have been my reaction to that story. Right. You would think that it would be nice to live in a world where you could kick it at a bar or outside of a liquor store and that it wouldn't be, you know, you wouldn't have to be dealing with a reality of like something very, very terrible.

Because like in my age group, you know, we could sit on the steps. Right. In front of your house. Drinking high sea of Kool-Aid. Eating ice cream with sprinkles. Beautiful thing. Beautiful thing. The three, four o'clock in the morning. Enjoy the neighborhood. Enjoy the neighborhood. You're watching people walk out.

You're seeing the husband cheating on the white because she's at work or vice versa. You're not saying anything. You see all that's sitting on your steps. Those days are gone. And even when I think about going to other countries and stuff, and you're in Barcelona, I mean, the culture is that they have these little outdoor parks

everywhere and there's little outdoor restaurants, outdoor seating areas. And people there, they love, that's the whole culture is you will sit in these little little parks and you'll get to drink your beer, you smoke your spliff, fucking just people hang out in the public squares. And that's such a huge part of it. And I mean, really that, that thing that you're talking about of like people just hanging out on the street, you know, it's like, I know people in New York who that's pretty much like what it's like on, on their block. But like, what has

happened to our society has really sort of like secluded us where it's like it's so much more normal to go into your house and watch Netflix by yourself and to not have any, I don't know any, I don't I know one neighbor. I don't know anybody else in my whole fucking neighbor. Yeah, that's true. And I'm not trying to meet him either. Right. And that's just how life is,

this is what has come to. And because, unfortunately, it's like even when you let people in your home, you never know who's eye hustling. You never know what is going to be the consequences of you showing off your home. And people do that.

And then wonder why they get robbed. People do that because they let people know where they live. And people would instigues. always are letting people know when they're home, when they're not home. I always post shit when I'm back. I'll go do something and I'll show it the week that I'm back from doing it

instead of showing it while I'm actually there doing it. That's just my stock because I come up in an era that you couldn't tell where you was going because your parents will shut that shit down. You say you're going to Disneyland and you told the whole neighborhood next thing you know your parents is like, we ain't going no motherfucker where.

Right. Now you look like a liar to your friends. I thought y'all was leaving town. Right. I had a mom cancer that shit. You ever had a problem of having your house robbed or something? No. No.

When you were off doing something? No. People don't even know where the fuck I live. Right. You know, my son sometimes got to say, Dad, can you give me your address? Even though I know he knows how to get there, but it's hilarious. I had a friend who was from Barcelona, his BMX rider,

and he came to L.A. because, you know, everybody in Europe or whatever, they think of L.A. as like, this is the place that you want to go if you want to be around all the crazy skateboarder and bike riding stuff that's going on. And he is just used to, like, this sort of Spanish culture where everybody's very, very welcoming. And he comes here for a week, and then we end up hanging out, and he's telling me, like, I don't understand.

Like, Americans, like, you know, I meet people at the skate park, and I tell them, like, let's go out drinking at the bar. And nobody wants to. He's like, you know, where I'm from, I meet someone, and, you know, they will come over my house for dinner. And that's normal. And I'm just like, yeah, imagine the average, like us even eating dinner with our family is so out of the ordinary. And it's like hearing him talk about it really putting in perspective from me of how fucking weird our culture has gotten where that idea of welcoming somebody into your home.

Like me and you both view it as like you're asking for trouble. Do not a lot of fucking stranger in your house. Right. You sure are. Yeah. You sure are. I'll get a hotel room. and we all can meet there, which you ain't coming in the house.

Right. Okay, so let's throw this one out there. T.I. Getting crucified by the media lately. Yes. For me, it feels like if you're going to be a multimillionaire who likes to do drugs and have sex with large groups of women with your girl or without,

it's a ticking time bomb. Totally agree. And T.I. is a good friend of mine. You always come to my events. And when I see him in these situations, again, you have to be afraid of something. And when people are not afraid, you continue to make the same mistakes. You have to live in paranoia to a certain extent. People are like, oh, I'm not, fuck that.

I'm a man. I'm not going to be paranoid. I'm not going to be afraid of anything. But then you are putting yourself in a bad situation to be set up because you never know the intentions of the other person. Right. You never know what you're capable of doing. In my younger days, I used to have orgies.

I used to have sex with five different women and all that kind of stuff. But I won't bring that into my life. I won't even bring that into my bedroom as I got in other because my bedroom is sacred. My bedroom was just for me and my woman to just have a good time. I don't need, as we get older, your energy and your universe is so important that you are very careful who you allow in your space. And when you allow different people into your space and you don't know their intentions, you don't know where their heart is, especially today's world, you're setting yourself up eventually for something to happen to you. So you have to be

very strict. You have to be, keep your guard up at all times. Right. You have to. Let's say him and his girl hooked up with a hundred girls. I mean, you only need one. Only need one. To say some shit like it didn't happen. Right. To get too fucked up and feel uncomfortable, say whatever. I mean, it's just...

I don't even like that feeling. It's such a bad feeling to put yourself in to... You know, when I saw that about him, I felt bad for him because I love him. As a person, he always comes to my shows in Atlanta. Tiny's been a friend of mine for years when she's with... escape back in the day. And I just don't want people to go through it, but you got to keep yourself out of bad situations.

You have to. Right. You have to at all costs. Yeah. And it's just, I mean, that, that, that, that, that right there sort of just like, maybe it was a reminder of like how much the world just changed and how much trusting people too much is just kind of become a real, real liability. Right.

And if I did that, I will, I will fuck around with older women. I like older women who got, like, hysterectomies. women who all they want to do is really know how many points you have on Amazon Prime you know a couple of my days

a lot of men don't date deaf women really you like that though I'll fuck with a deaf bitch because she can't talk back you can scream at her while you're fucking her from behind right exactly really give her a peace of your mind and people are laughing and they don't think deaf women need love and affection of dick

but I'll fuck a deaf bitch How do these women lose their hearing? And you hang out at the center for the deaf and blind or some shit? No, I just walk up on if they find, you know what I'm saying? How did they do a sign? Right. You know, so I'll find somebody, you know, because he's not got a little bit of money. So I'll pay somebody to follow me to translate what that person is saying.

Right. That makes sense to me for sure. But you know what's fucked up now? All right. Can you put yourself in this situation? My dad had a friend growing up who got divorced around, I don't know, like, you know, He gets divorced when he's like 40. And he's in business.

So he's got the option to go to Asia and he could make more money by going to China and working out of there or whatever. He moves there. All of a sudden, he's got, you know, 10 Chinese girlfriends, and he's the fucking man in China. Right. Because he's white. He's got money.

Boom. He's in this world. He's like in high demand in comparison. It always kind of like stands out to me that, like, you know, you could be the tallest guy in China tomorrow if you moved out there. Right. That's so true. You're right.

You know, like, or like, I've seen the way that Chinese people when you're in Asia and shit, like I've been out there on BMX trips with black guys. Right. I mean, they look at black guys. Like, they're from a fucking other planet. Right. They're in awe of it. Right.

You always, like, you ever think about that option? You could always just kind of like drift off to another culture and just really stand out there? I actually thought about that. Like, it could be a rock star, so to speak. For real. Like a huge rock star. And the thought crossed my mind, but I never rolled the dice or pulled the trigger to go make it happen. But I have thought about what you said.

Right. Like I thought about that. It sounded a lot more attracted to me as a kid, whereas like now the idea of being somewhere where you have like almost no chance of like relating to someone else. Like I like, like, I think that, you know, that's why I like really wouldn't want to move out of America. Like you want to live the place where you have the most in common with the most. people right that's true and the the the um not putting yourself in the bad situation because you know how things are here you know where to go give example when I went to the Netherlands I arrived in at 12 o'clock at night and I

walked outside this is a couple years ago I walked outside and I was gonna go to the red light district but the way they was telling me which way to go it just seemed so dark that direction and I had never been there before I said don't be no motherfucker fool I went back to bed until the sun came up and then the next day I went out to

enjoy myself just in case I walked somewhere where I wasn't supposed to be and that's where you've got to use common sense sometimes you can go to another country and just feel free like nothing's going to happen to you and walk your ass into a bad situation

yeah and you take it for granted that you you know the lay of the land where you're really comfortable. Yes. If I were to move to France tomorrow, I'm going to get caught up in some bullshit because I'm not going to understand that the guy who looks like that who's standing on the corner there,

that's the dude that you don't want to fuck with. But here, I mean, like, if I was in a bad neighborhood here, I'm going to be able to tell right away. If I'm going to be able to tell the guy standing on the corner, no, do not go near him. Exactly. That guy is a problem. Like, you know, we have those built into us

because we've been around here long enough, but you don't have any of that. If you go to Russia, yes, to us, the fucking most murderous gangster and the guy who's just, you know,

selling weed on the corner, look the same. Right, yeah, yeah, it's true. Yeah, it's crazy. It is.

But that's why people got to explore the world and try as much as it can and then get your ass out of there. Mm, for sure. Okay, I'm going to continue throwing hot topics out of you.

Okay. When you first heard about this Megastalian and Tori Lane's thing, Mm-hmm. What was your thought process and has that changed since then? What are your thoughts on this? Well, when I saw her toes, I say... That was the benefit of it.

You got a good look at your toes. I said that's why he shot that bitch. A toes is fucked up. No, I'm teasing. I'm teasing. I'm a comedian. I'm a comedian. But you're a foot guy.

Yeah. Are you? Yeah, I'm a foot guy. I heard there's a website called Wiki Feet where you can go see pictures of everybody. It's like a compilation of everybody's feet. It's got to be a woman I'm fucking wit. Like I'm not gonna go on pitches and go, ooh, and jack off to another bitch's feet. But if it's my, of a woman I'm dating and she got nice feet.

Right. I just, not that I get turned on by it, I just know you got nice-ass feet. And that means a lot to me. With Tori in that situation, believe it or not, during that crisis, I became a fan. Because I didn't know, I didn't know who he was. And I played his music. And I was like, wow, this motherfucker is talented. it. And that's what I got out of it. With those two, it looked like it's going to be brushed under the water because it's starting to die down.

But he has to go to court for it. Okay. There's an open criminal case that he's going to have to. That's when, because I agree that it's kind of crazy how everybody, it seems like, has kind of lost interest in large part. But that's how I always talk about this other day on stage, right? Yeah. How kids today don't know how to fight a case. See, the goal to fight a case is This is why I try to get people to be respectful to the police And not put yourself in a bad situation Because the goal is to get home And you don't just respect the cops Because how tough you are

The goal is to outthink the cop By being respectful Yes, so no, sir If you're going to go to jail, you take the L And then if you have a few dollars You get out, you bail out Fight the system You get you a good turning,

you find out who is a good attorney in that area for that court, and your money has to be right. So if your money's right, you fight the case a year, two years. What happens in a year two years? Guess what? Because the prosecutor turnover is insane in court. So the different prosecutor, so the new prosecutor may not, don't give a fuck about this particular case.

I just want to get off my desk. So when you look at a mandatory sentence, now someone is saying, hey, I'm just going to get this guy probation. that prosecutor might know your attorney and they have a relationship. And that prosecutor owes your attorney a favor. And your attorney speaks to him, say, hey, this is a nice kid. I need you to do this for me. Blah, blah, blah.

And they work a deal out. Anything can happen in two years. And the worst case in the era, you catch another motherfucker case in two years of your ass is stupid. Definitely. But I think that the issue with Tori was that he was already convicted on social media immediately. Oh, yeah. So for him, I mean, he puts out an album that basically, you know, allows him to address

the situation in part, not entirely. A lot of people were maybe kind of not into the fact that he used music to tell his side of the story. Right. But, you know, he's just not, he's not able to be super literal about whatever he has to say. He is kind of like leading everybody in the direction of believing that something different than the narrative that Meg put out there is. the official narrative.

And yeah, I mean, but it's tough for him because it's like, it's tough for him to sit back and just, what, not have a career for two years while this case gets underway. Right. I mean, that's kind of like suicidal. And like if he doesn't put himself out there, then people are going to assume even more so that he's guilty. Well, anytime today, whether you're telling the truth or lying,

once it goes on social media, it's public opinion. And we are so brainwashed now in this society that if, a person thinks that it's a lie, there's nothing you can do. Right. It is what it is. So if you don't want your business on social media, try not to be in a position that it has to go on social media. Because once it's done, once it gets out there, the world's going to have an opinion.

Right. And, you know, damn well, you're not going to get the whole world to agree that you were right. When you see Meg go on Instagram live and say, this dude shot me. Is there part of you that finds that kind of shocking? I know she's a girl. There's a lot of people who look at that and it's just like, oh, that's snitching.

There's a lot of people who are like, she's a woman. She's a woman in them old school. So she's a woman and in so many levels to a female telling the story, right? One, that's why you got to look at the whole picture. if I shot you, your ass going to get shot. Like there's going to be a fucking hole in your foot that a bullet actually went through.

When I saw the gunshot with them, it was another bullet wound just like got scraped by glass. So that confused me. Right. All right. When you get shot literally shot, you're not going to be able to walk. Right.

If someone shoot you in your fucking foot, you're not walking. Period. The thing is that if you shoot a gun in the direction of someone and then the bullet shatters off the ground and you get a little chunk of the bullet in your foot, are you then able to say that you got shot? Right. That's so true.

It's kind of like, what is the definition of shot? The shot to me is that damn motherfucker bullet got to be, went through your foot, and your foot almost had to get amputated, and they found the gun shell. from the bullet. That was another case, but that's their story. I wish Torrey Lane's the best. I wish her the best.

I hope that their careers, they get what they want in this journey because what's going to happen in five years or less, nobody's going to give a fuck. Interesting. I feel like people still are on Chris Brown's ass, though. That's going to haunt him for a long time because it was Rihanna.

And that was just a beating. Yeah. Which in comparison to a gun. Yeah. Anything domestic violence, when you're that level of superstar, when you're that level of a female, will follow you for the rest of your life. People won't forget that. It was too much of a high-profile case.

Right. No, yeah. It's high profile. Good chance of that. One thing I thought that was interesting was that Vlad basically had the same. he had a very similar conversation with both you and boozy about lorry harvey okay boosy yesterday was one of the top trending topics on twitter of just people destroying him for basically saying that he wouldn't wipe up lory harvey because she had had sex

with too many guys right it got to be a certain kind of guy yeah to date a woman who's date a lot of men right because what happens in hour before social media there's probably a lot of women who dated a lot of men, but you didn't know their business. Yes. See, when you don't know something, it plays a different part compared to you wife somebody. And then one day she said, you say, well, how many dicks she sucked? Right. And she said, oh, 95.

Right. Bitch, I thought, what? Yeah. But now you know exactly what's going on. So I said to Vlad that I think what Lori is doing is what I always say in my show, that in your 20s you should explore light the only thing that um laurie's doing wrong is like everybody's in the entertainment field right so that's like really dating everybody in the NBA right that's really like dating everybody in the NFL if you date too many people of the same category yeah then you are going

like and i saw it when i was strictly like doing the BMX bike stuff yes ramp tramps yes just there would be girls who would just it would be kind of baffling like right damn like you really feel fucking banged out like 10 of the homies like that's like that's weird like are you into them or are you into their skill exactly but here's the most interesting part the men who choose to date that woman right what is your mindset when you know she dated and you know you know you know all these people right so you know this so now you do you not care or you're on the following time of a year i fucked her too yo i did this too what you do what you do do tour. Well, I did this tour. So you understand? Some men can't deal with that. You got to be a

cold-hearted motherfucker to get that get over on you and not get emotional. But Michael B. Jordan, isn't he kind of the king of the castle because he locked her down? Now, you got engaged? They are engaged. Yeah. Or, yeah, I believe they're engaged. Yeah. Okay. So if he got engaged, that means all those experiences she had with those other men, they taught her certain things that she used on him. But Michael B. Jordan, like, why would he look at future or look at her

and be angry about future when it's like, if she is so great and she is so desirable and he really believes that she is the ultimate girl that he wants to be with and that she has gotten dick down by future and decided that that's not what she wanted to keep doing?

I don't know. I mean, I understand on like a really deep-seated, like, biological level. Like, yes, you're supposed to be jealous of other people fucking your girl. But, I mean, if your girl has had that experience and decided that she would rather be with you than this guy, I mean, let's be real, a huge percentage of men who have wives right now, I don't say a huge percentage, but a good chunk of them, those girls would be so, those wives would be so impressed by futures fame and talent and jewelry and money that they would go and get smashed out by future and probably ruin their entire relationship with

and their relationship with their children just to get Dick down for, I don't know, I'm not going to go on my time period, let's say five minutes by future. Here's the thing. I guess, five minutes? Here's the thing, right? Girl would be lucky to get five minutes from me.

Not her. Do you get five minutes? Me personally, I got to walk in the room knowing that the woman's next to me is pure. I got to walk in the room knowing that a lot of me, men having fucked the woman that I

care about. That's me. That's how I want to live with peace of mind because there are men who are sloppy. There are men who are messy. There are men that, because you started fucking her, that they might start

calling this girl back, hey, what you're doing? Listen, I know you were, listen, let's get together. It could happen. I'm not saying this happening with them, but it could happen. I need my mind to be motherfuckin' clear. I feel like my brain has been sort of permanently damaged

by being in the porn world adjacent to the porn world because this is a world where everyone has fucked each other. Right. And it's just understood. Yeah, you just understand. But white people, y'all different. And let me send you what I mean by the two. There are black people in the porn world as well.

When y'all say date, you all can go out on a date and really that's a date and see that young lady with another motherfucker tomorrow. And hi, hi, how are you? When black people date and you got another, you was just fucking with me last night. Who the fuck is this?

Because people feel, bitch I own you or vice versa. Or the girls like, you ate my pussy last night and you with this bitch? It goes like that in the black community. So to me, it's a double standard type thing. And I've always thought that was funny.

That y'all date and y'all really know it's dating. Not in the black community. White people get mad at each other for overlapping sex partners. They do? They do? Okay. Okay.

It's good to know. When you're closer and closer to the porn world, it's a little different. But as soon as their feelings evolves. Now, here's a question for the porn world. Sure. So have you ever fucked the girl and she fucked you so good that you'll fuck later? Does that happen? Yeah.

You know, how about this? How about you fuck a porn girl? And she does such a great job that you're like jerking off to her fucking videos on porn her five, six years later. Wow. And you can't tell a soul. And you know what's crazy? I never jacked off to a porn. Really?

I used to be like that where I would barely ever jerk off the point. My mind is so creative that when I travel the world, I see women with nice asses or cute. Like later if I want to fuck them, it could be months later. You know, I'm a fucker.

That's old school jerking off. I was there too. I still am like that. Yeah, old school. That's how you call that old school. Jerking off from memory is so foreign. Yes. Because if you grew up every time you ever beat off in your whole life,

actually, I guess it would be like this. Yes. You're like this. Actually, it would be the other hand. If you're going off the right hand. If you've jerked off that way every time for your whole life, then you, the idea of jerking off to your memory probably does seem kind of foreign. That's fucking hilarious.

Yeah. You have like any, like, sexual experiences that you just go back to? Like just random girl you fucked 30 years ago and somehow it's still just in your brain. Absolutely. Isn't that weird? Yeah. It's so true. And you want that, but you can't ask the girl you're dating that she had that.

Because I dare you, bitch, if you think about somebody from 20 years ago. Even though you know they do it. You know, if you got a healthy mind and someone fucked you good weeks months ago before you met me, hey, enjoy yourself. Yeah. When you get older, you know, life just is so easy. When you've been through so much, the goal in life is to have peace of mind. And that's what I When I come on your show and shows

The message I try to give to people Is that the greatest thing That I can give you as a gift Is that I hope you reach The pedestal of peace of mind That's real It's the ultimate gift that I can give to you That's true

Speaking of peace of mind You ever heard of Kevin Samuels That ain't sounds familiar So he is a I believe he, I think he's 50 Black gentleman from Where does he live now? Texas

Oklahoma? Fuck, I can't remember. Anyway, he does these videos on YouTube that have become extremely popular where he basically has women call in live and they describe their relationship. Oh, the gentleman with the glasses. Nice looking too. Okay, yeah.

So we interviewed him recently and it's got like 600,000 views already. It's like big hit. People going crazy for it. Very rare do we get this positive of a reaction from something that's not with a rapper. With rappers, we're used to get that positive reaction. With him, I wasn't sure if our audience was going to overlap enough with the people watching his shit.

Right. But, you know, the gist of what he kind of does is that the stereotypical situation that will happen is that a woman will call in and start describing her place in life of, you know, oftentimes they're like 33. Right. They weigh 380 pounds and they've been, you know, married twice and they got a kid and they're trying to date a NBA player. They're trying to date a guy who's making a quarter million dollars a year. Right. And Kevin Samuels' his whole brand has kind of been built off of giving them the reality check of, you know, basically you need to change your standards. Right, right, right.

And I think that the thing that he's kind of like really trying to get at and hammer away at is that a lot of people are driving themselves crazy and not preparing for this, you know, like our culture is making people feel completely lost at 35 when they want to settle down because they haven't taken advantage of, you know, their, they're. prime years in any way and they kind of have unrealistic expectations about the relationship that they could get into at this point in their life and uh you know he he does take some shit from like the feminist community and stuff but i feel like his community fucking loves him yeah he loves and i know who you're talking about now right um he's very honest but there's a flip side to it you you have to tell the female that there's still hope for her relationship. He's not an optimistic figure for a lot of these women. Yeah, you got to have hope.

What women, see, it's two things to women that he talks about. One, and I can share this to the world, if you do have children too young, then you have put yourself in a hole until I call it till you're reborn. Reborn is now you've got to become this mother. this dedicated mom for the next 18 years. And that same process, you have to take care of your body. You got to take care of you so that when you send your kids off

and I call it reborn, you still look good. You work hard, you save some money because what happens to a lot of women, they get pregnant, they let themselves go. They're not attractive by the time they kid. So now if you're looking for a man, you're looking for dick, nobody's interested in you

because men, beauty is in the eye to beholder, right? A man wants an attractive person that they can deal with. Plus, in particular these high-quality types of men that these girls want. Yeah, because what comes out of their mouth is not realistic when they come out of their, what comes out of their mouth.

They say things that they've heard their mother or girlfriend say for years, I want this man this type of height. I want this man with this type of money. But the world is set up now. It ain't like tradition no more. All that shit is gone. It's what you got now, sister.

What are you bringing to the table? And it's going to get more and more like that as we get older and lead us earth. Men are going to want women who are equally yoked. Because if you don't go in looking at it equally yoke, you get a rude awakening if you get married, no pre-nup, and you go in front of a judge, and he brings the reality to your ass.

And now you realize it's a business. And people are like, oh, if you love me, I would have to sign a pre-nup. If you love me, we don't have to do this paperwork. Yeah, okay. Until we get in front of that fucking judge. And that judge is going to say, you fucking fool.

I'm taking almost everything you worked hard for, because you allow your emotions to get ahead of comments. sense. And it happens over and over and over and over 30. So many stories. You can go to the court tomorrow and see hundreds and hundreds of thousands of these things happen. And people still will go out the following week and get married and not handle it the way they're supposed to handle it. Yeah, that's pretty well. Are you one of those guys? You're married now, right? I'm not married, but we have a three-month-old now. Okay. Okay, I like that. So that you have a bond.

We have a bond. It's going strong. If anything for me, having this kid and being so obsessed with her, it's kind of hard for me to imagine you know, like Vlad when he had me on the other day was saying, like, you know, congratulations, like if your relationship seems like it's good right now, but that first three to six

months is like that's when everybody's relationship falls apart after they have the kid. Right. Now why? Why do it falls apart? I think it's because, you know, if you're a guy who wants to you know, live this sort of like fun, crazy, go out all the time life, uh, it's just,

super hard to balance that with, you know, a woman, like as soon as she has the kid, and the kid is glued to her titty fucking all the damn day. And, you know, it's, I could have never really wrapped my head around how much work it is for the woman. Yes. For the, the parents in general. But there's so much of it that you just have no hope of really being able to help with as a guy. Absolutely.

Yeah. Absolutely. And that's where you got to use strategy. You got to help the woman out. You got to help her. You got to participate. Right. You can't allow her to take care of the baby, cook.

You still want to fuck her because everybody's tired. Right. Everybody's tired. But if you help out and you take a little pressure off her, you have opportunities to still enjoy your sex life. If you know how to plan and strategize, okay, baby, we're going to go out on this particular day. We're going to do this. You want to do that. And you organize, instead of just winging it, you can really make that relationship last.

Yeah. But you've got to have activity. you got to know how to do things. You got to know how self-control because you can't fuck all the time because she's tired. Right, because the thing about it is that the girl,

no matter what, is going to have to put in the hours. Hours. Because it is a 24-hour-a-day. And I was with my children. I'm the one that got up at three in the morning. I looked forward to it, but I was an older man.

So I look forward to walking my child around in the middle of the night. It was like, it was an honor. Really? Yeah, it was an honor. That's good. Yeah, I love that. See, I think that's part of the problem of me having such a responsible, mature girl,

is that she just, like, she wakes up, she's got to change the kid's diaper, she's got to feed the kids. She never wakes me up, and I just sleep through it. See, that's awesome. But as you get older, my suggestion, you say, baby, I could do this for you. Right. I think she would appreciate that a lot. The thing is, is that they're going to have to put in the hours no matter what.

So I think that with being the guy, it's like the more important thing is that during the hours that you are there or that you are around the baby or whatever that you really give them like the best version of yourself during that time because it's like for someone like me or you it's like there's just going to be big chunks of the day

where you're gone. You're at work. You're doing your thing and they don't get that fucking luxury. That's so true. You know, it's like that's the thing that they don't get. They don't get to go disappear to work for eight hours. Right. Being a parent is one of the most hardest jobs you can put yourself into. Definitely. I hear you.

Um, okay. So I wanted to ask you, have you heard of or seen this Cecil Hotel documentary on Netflix? No, I haven't. So the gist of the story is about this hotel in downtown L.A. that is like pretty terrible. You know, it's like, I saw the, um, the poster, but I didn't, um, go into it. My store was downtown right near this hotel for years and years and years. And I very, you know, I would always see it and I would always kind of wonder, like, what is the purpose of these giant fucking hotels downtown that seem kind of shitty? And the documentary does go into like why they exist and how in the 20s there was this big boom and those hotels were actually full. But nowadays, they mostly exist because they're like, I forget what percentage they said, but there's like a huge percentage of people who live in those hotels are like pedified.

convicted sex offenders who can't, they can't just move into a neighborhood because they'll have to fucking fill out the paperwork and I don't even know what exactly they have to do. A lot of those people end up living in these hotels and stuff and the dog mayors basically about this Asian girl from Vancouver or from somewhere in Canada who decides that she wants to go check out L.A. She sees an ad for a hotel in downtown L.A. She thinks it's probably a good hotel because normally the downtown area of any given city is a pretty good area, not downtown LA as much.

Right, that's true. She pulls up and, you know, basically, they taunt you and tease you with a whole bunch of different fucking versions of what might happen to you, including they have this crazy looking like metal dude with like makeup on and stuff for a while because the whole part of it is that these internet sleuths start trying to put together who might have killed her. And then it comes out that actually she was.

was basically like mentally ill and she went into one of the water tanks on the fucking roof of the hotel and drowned in the water tank. And then for over a week or like however many weeks, the people who lived in the hotel were drinking dead Asian girl water. Wow. Which I don't think that they drew enough attention in this documentary to just how gross that is. Wow. I've got to watch that now. Yeah. I don't know why exactly.

So it wasn't murder. No, nobody murdered her. She was just crazy. Which that was all a lot of people thought is like, oh, so. And even like there's videos of her kind of like tweaking out, like in the elevator and stuff. And I feel like a lot of people, myself included, came to the same conclusion of she did crystal meth with someone in downtown. And now she is tweaking the fuck out. And if she's dead, it's probably because one of these guys killed her or something.

Yeah. Yeah. I've definitely watched it and see and get my perspective on that. Yeah. That's crazy. Wow. That's crazy. Yeah.

Yeah. And one thing I thought was nuts about it is the fact that the family is in the documentary. So you get to see this extremely somber, sad-ass Asian family. And, like, you can really feel the pain. When you see the parents, like, you can just see how upset they are. Yes. They put this documentary out as number one on Netflix. And they're, allegedly, the family really did not want this to happen. Fuck you.

They put it out in any way. Okay. That's kind of a crazy thing to think about happening. kid dying and then they make content out of it and put it on Netflix. Yeah, it's interesting. That's interesting, Jim. It's a crazy world we live in. Yeah, it's a crazy world.

But like I said, with social media, we get so much in documentaries now. Some things that we would never even think of watching or even listening to at your fingertips now. That's a fact. I wanted to ask you about this situation, too. Did you see the video of Meek Mill and a 6-9 outside the club? I saw that. What was your initial reaction to this?

I just don't get it. Like, your kids laughing too, like fucking, my dad talking about 6-9? I know. This is, this is, this is, this is. You're not ready for this cloud chasing generation? Yeah, like, I don't get it. Like, I read a little of another. I don't get it.

It's, it's embarrassing, but it's the way they live. they get jealous of each other, they kill one another over things that's not important. You can't have a career. One person is jealous of this one, this person is a snitch, this person is that, and it doesn't mean anything. My main thing that I took away from it,

and especially in seeing the reaction afterwards, was, you know, everybody, I think, should be able to look at Mick Mills' career and say, Like, what do you want for Meek Mill if you think that Mick Mill is a talented guy that you want to see him make something out of himself? You want to see him do well for himself. You don't want to see him engaging

with people that are just clearly trying to bait you into making a bad decision. Absolutely. To making a fool of yourself. Right, right. That's not what I want for Meek Mill. I totally agree. It seems bizarre for me to normalize that.

I would hope that if T.K. Kirkland was leaving the club and he had a similar situation of some young cloud chaser screaming in his face trying to bait you into punching him or shooting them or having your homie shoot them or whatever i would hope that you would be able to walk away from yeah i'm going to walk away from and sometimes that's the hardest thing because i've been jumped before really no one must have to fight me one-on-one right like one-on-one we're going to have some problem so either they snuck up behind me hit me here with a pipe or um jumped

me but never one-on-one i'm gonna assume it's been a while yeah it's been a while since you got jumped yeah it's been a long time but i avoid people in situations that you may feel like a punk because I wanted to retaliate on a whole other level. But when you have so much to lose, so much to be thankful for, you have to walk away.

Now you carry it in your soul for the rest of your life, like that pain that you should have did something. And I remember a situation where something happened to me and in my head I had a conversation with myself. Right. And I was in jail. And me was talking to each to myself and it was a female who lied and I wanted to heard her about something. And when I was in,

in my head and I walked in and myself said to me, you know, what you were in for? I said, this bitch lied to me and he turned his head and he looked back. He said, you gave up your freedom because a bitch lied to you. And when I did it that way, it made sense because, see, we let our egos get in the way of thinking that we have to prove something. And it's just your ego. Your ego will, it's just bruised, but it would heal. But getting locked up going away, the people don't forgive you.

To kill somebody because of your ego, you want to pull a trigger and shoot someone. And that person dies and you have it on your conscience for, the rest of your life. And if you are a decent person and you grow, and you go, wow, I kill somebody, I should have never did that. It's sad. So you have to avoid people,

obstacles, and bad situations at all costs. And that's what I do to life. So someone wonder, y'all let me, I'll stay low for a minute or I'll go out the other way, but I'm not gonna let you reel me in so that I have to yell at me in so that I have to change by. Even in an argument with people or somebody gets me upset

and I get angry, but I'm controlling my emotion, I won't deal with that person ever again because I see that something bad could happen to my life. And, you know, people depend on me. And that's the one when you hear about people who are in relationships where they're just sort of going back and forth with a girl over and over and they keep taking each other back and they're beating the fuck out of each other

and they're exposing each other on social media and they're just mentally torturing each other. It's like, it always shocks me because I'm just the kind of person where like if I'm in a relationship and I feel disrespected by the girl is a pretty high chance that I'm going to say, okay.

And that's what people should do. I'm not talking anymore. If I don't trust you or your emotions, then I'm going to walk away from the situation. But people don't do it. Right. You see everything we talked about throughout this time we've been on here

was about the thought process. and how people continue doing bad things to themselves, sabotage themselves. Even in a relationship, it has to take something so fucking drastic, either you got your ass beat or you died for the other person to understand and not understand that I got to leave now

before it happens. No one thinks about this could really happen. And I always tell people, it's billions of fucking people on this earth. Yeah. Meet them all. You just really don't have to dig your heels into the ground and just spend your whole life with one person that you don't.

No. Get along with or whatever. And it's kind of baffling because a lot of times as people we're describing in these situations are the kind of people who have a ton of opportunities that could go and meet a girl any fucking given night of the week. Right. And end up doing the most crazy shit and put themselves in bad situations. But a lot of people, they start to view the other person as like a reflection of their own

self-esteem and their own self-worth. Right. So if that person is... is disrespecting you or, you know, not treating you right, then, like, they really feel like they have to, you know, they have to go to war for this one person to save face. Yeah, people think like that, like, Casino, with Robert De Niro and that young lady.

She was taking his money, giving it to the other guy, because he had a baby with her. He loved her and kept, put himself back in a bad situation until she literally, he let her go and drugs killed her. But sometimes, you know, people don't get that opportunity. Sometimes you die. Right. Sometimes you put yourself in a bad situation and it ends for you.

So people have to learn to fly, and I call it first love yourself. Right. And if you love yourself first, the chances of you really put in the bad situation, hopefully we can minimize the bad effect. You think that loving yourself so much and being so comfortable with yourself has kept you away from really like having that like big long term relationship? I see the world different than most people. Yeah. See, I'm here for a reason.

And in my life, you have to sack. In life to be successful, certain things, certain things. And what are you prepared to sacrifice? See, because there's some things in life you have to sacrifice. I had a sacrifice love. I had a sacrifice being with a woman for the rest of my life. And that's what I had to give up to stay looking the way I look, to have the mindset that I have,

to travel the world the way I want to live. I had to give that up because I think about that all the time. I met some amazing women. I would think, yeah. Amazing. But if I had stayed with them at that time of my life, I wouldn't be where I am today. Right.

So I had to give up a lot of things to get where I'm at. But the thing that's the most important to me is the peace of mind. Yeah, I mean, like, your mind will always go back to those girls throughout your life that really wanted to be with you and they really were special. Yeah, they were special. And that you just, you know, it wasn't ready for it. I love you, but I love me more. Right.

and that's the thing. Really, it's more like I have to drown myself in vagina of strangers for the next decade or two before I'm going to be comfortable getting into a relationship. And believe it or now, I really have

liked fucking different women. Like, it's like the greatest thing to me in the world. I think a lot of men would say that, yeah. Yeah, like, you know, some people, some people give up, not me. Really? Oh, my God. I'm shit.

You're still out here at taste testing. Yeah, let me tell you something, man. And if I can go out, if I die, you hear me, that TK died nothing in the female. So that motherfucker lived this life. God bless that dude. That's how you want to go. That's how I want to go. I want to die.

Dick in hand. A woman's legs back screaming my ass up because I bust so hard and I just died. Right. That would be the fucking ultimate gift to the world. I'm surprised you only have six kids. Yeah. I'm surprised too. Because I was singing dick back in my day.

Yeah. Yeah, I had a good time. If you found out that you had some sort of terminal illness and then you got like three years left, is there a part of you that's going to want to just go just scatter nuts all over the world and just get as many possible infants going while you're... I think I'll have different emotions.

I think I'll be sad maybe one day and then one day I'll probably be a hoe, then be sad again and then be a hoe. Do you ever think about that, though? if you knew that you were going to die in 30 days, what do you do until then? And how does that make you feel about what you are actually going to do for the next 30 days as a regular person?

I think that I would want to be my kids. I talk to my kids almost every day anyway. So I would still talk to them more, but I would be fucking that much more. See, life to me is... But not at the same time. Yeah, life to me is waking up and enjoying the view I have in my home, working out, swimming, riding my electric bike, and fucking.

Wow. That's the ultimate fucking goal in life. And knowing that I made enough money to last me for two lifetimes, but sex, a good woman, good taste in pussy, beautiful skin, a woman that can have great conversation. Well said. It's trying to get me in the mood. I mean, listen to me.

It's nothing better. And you don't have no, your bills are paid. You're in shape. You don't have no high blood pressure. No diabetes. No erected out dysfunction. You got periade water in your refrigerator. Got cookie.

I still am very much in the state where my girl had the kid three months ago. We have had sex since then. Not a ton. Right. It seems like it's going to be interesting. getting back into the groove of having a normal or, you know, regular sex life. That's where you got to become creative. And what I mean by creative is you have, I call it dick management.

Really? See, a lot of men don't have dick manager. A lot of women don't have how to manage their pussy. People fucking fuck until they worn out. And once you nut, I don't get fuck who you are. If you fuck too much, you don't like the person you're still. still laying next to. But if you manage the dick saying,

okay, maybe Monday I'll just eat pussy. Tuesday, I'll give it some dick. And you have a different strategy every day to be so creative that it makes it fun. But if you keep just fucking, fucking fucking fucking fuck.

Who you are. You're tired. Yeah, well, getting the fucking in and going in the first place is kind of a big part of the challenge because it's like my problem is that you know, I'll get home from work at 7 or 8 p.m. And she's, you know, wearing sweatpants. She's had the kid hanging off her tit all day. Yeah, no, a lot of times women don't feel like...

So why don't you suck the other titty? I don't know if I want to do it at the same time. Yeah, but shit, that sounds like fun to me. But you can't relate to this, that a lot of women maybe aren't like necessarily in their super sexy state of mind. But that's where you come in again. You make her feel that she's sexy. baby you look amazing in your sweatpants i like the way your nivis look through the t-shirt right like

you got a you got you know i'm looking at you you got to you got to gel in the product in your hair you got you know your skin is moisturized you're a gorilla glue in your hair yeah you got to you got to you got to have that sean connery about you right you know what i'm saying see the thing about your generation y'all ain't you all ain't have no smooth motherfuck no we don't seduce yeah that's the word you hit the right word and that's what people don't understand when i was growing up there was a word called you seduce a woman. And that was about your presentation. It was about how you smelled,

how you looked, how you made her feel. Even though she felt like she wasn't going to fuck you, your game was so cold that the next thing you knew, panties is all, the baby in the closet door shut. We haven't had to do that yet.

You know, like, oh my God, you are fucking amazing. So you got to get in your mind. Come home with some champagne. Tossing the baby in a pocket. in a pile of clothes at the closet. Toss the baby. Put a fucking pacifier.

You stay right the fuck here and don't say a goddamn thing. It'll be all right. You'll be alright. Or fuck while the baby in bed. You ain't never did that? No. Oh, so you're scared. We've done it with the baby in the cradle or whatever, like a few feet away from the bed.

You're scared. You're scared. It's not. Listen to me. I'm telling you from a man. Listen to me. You're scared. You can't be.

So the presence of the infant doesn't make it a little weird for you? No. Okay. Fuck her. You've done this a lot more than me? Yeah. Fuck her with the baby. Matter of fact, when you fucking...

I'm not going to touch... No, no, no. No, listen to me. Why you fucking... Look at me. Look at me. Watch it. Look at my arm.

You want me to see this. Yeah. See my arm? You see the arm? You're fucking... Mm-hmm. Look at the baby. The baby looking.

Chewing on the passer. Hmm. And you make eye contact. I mean, BFB the Pac-Man, the rapper, and he had a bar that said, I don't fuck a lot of bitches with a baby in the bed, which I thought was funny. Maybe that that happens from time to time.

But even he didn't suggest that you might touch the baby. I feel like you might be raking some kind of law there. And that's why you have to be so clever and stay in shape. Because sometimes the baby might want to fall off. And you turn your head and you grab the baby. and you grab the baby by the ankle, because they're so light, they can hang a little bit,

and you bring them back up. I am not going to dangle my kid by the ankle. You got to be creative, man. You know, that's one fucked up part is that the legs are so much stronger than the arms. She has no upper body strength at all,

but meanwhile, the legs can cool. She cracked me in the jaw. They're pretty good. That's right. Yeah, you got grabbed the baby. But the arm, had that baby get something. I guarantee you,

wife will love it or your girl love it yeah I don't know maybe maybe you were onto something with putting her in the closet yeah but no forget the closet put the baby on side of the bed and hold the baby I'm just starting to get used to my cat watching me fuck now that's interesting too right yeah because when women have cats and dogs

you know I'm like is this dog gonna be in the room he's always here no but the dog and that's embarrassing you fuck somebody and they dog or cat right and then you walk around the hat the cat be looking at you Yeah, like, what did you do? Like, why'd you do that? Who are you?

What's going on, buddy? Yeah. She feeds me. Yeah, I remember one time I was messing with this girl. She put the dog out the room. And when we woke up the next morning, the dog had destroyed half the fucking living room. Really? Out of jealousy.

Wow. Shit was hilarious. That's crazy. Yeah, it was crazy. I had a girl that I used to hang out with that multiple different times her dog pissed on the blanket while I was sleeping over. And I was just over. I really was kind of honest with her. I was like, yo, like, because it was one of these girls where I maybe kicked her with her, let's say, like, five times.

Yes. And she just keeps sucking my dick. Right. Like the first time we maybe kiss a little. And then after that, like four times we hang out and she just gives me head. Right. And, you know, obviously, like, I'm not planning on marrying this girl. This is a long time ago.

But, you know, I want to feel what the vagina feels like, too. Right. After I got pissed on two times by the dog, I was like, all, we're just going to cut this one. short right you know that's funny yeah that's funny that'd be like that though right yeah it's like that and believe it and not if a um normally about me the woman if she got cats i know i'm not gonna like her really i don't know what it is like um because some of these people really love their dogs and cats hmm i'm a cat guy yeah my cat's old i'm not coming to your house and you got a cat you can't if you come to my house you ask when you bring the cat

I'm going to block you. My cat is 17 and kind of losing his mind. Right. So he's like begging for food at like three or in the morning. Mm-hmm. And it really sucks because it's like I just, no matter how bad he gets, I can't just like, you know, feed him to a mountain lion.

Oh, okay. I've been to a long. I've never been an animal person. Yeah, 14 years with this guy. Wow. Yeah. Can't feed him to a mountain lion. It sucks.

Okay. Might have to buy him his own house. Yeah. You might have to do that. You know, it's good to have people like. like you. Give him his own room. Yeah. It might be people like it's good to have people like you like that, man. Honestly. I don't respect that. You know. TK. Kirkland, anything that the people out there should look out for? Anything they need to know? We got the Who Raised You Hiddies.

Make sure you go on my Instagram at TK underscore Kirkland. They're doing real well. Just hit the bio my link. Um, um, shows, all my shows is lined up on Instagram, Philadelphia. You're coming up. Um, Virginia Beach next week. Um, Raleigh, North Carolina. Carolina, Portland, Oregon, Detroit, Michigan, all the, I'm working. And to be 200 years old, the women still loving me, people still booking me. It's a blessing for me, man. It's an inspiration for sure. I can't wait to see myself at your age.

I'm going to look like fucking Mr. Burns. It's possible. It's possible. I'm 60, so my goal is if I can get. 30 more summers. 30 summers. It doesn't seem like a lot, right? That's 90.

The way you seem like you're going right now, I mean, I could see. Yeah, I had a technician in my house yesterday, doing some stuff for me in my home, and I'm watching the stocks and all that kind of stuff. I'm not expert in stocks, but I have my own little system. And he said, sir, what do you do? I always tell people I'm retired if you don't know who I am. And he happened to be 38 years old.

He looked older than me. I said, I'm old enough to be your dad. And he was shocked. He's looking around. He's eye hustling my home. Like, wow, this guy's really living a great life. And he thought, you know, if you don't know what I do, I don't mention it whatsoever. So I told him I was retired.

And he just so happened to hear a phone call that came over that a guy needs $150,000. And I negotiated a deal. You know, I loan people big sums of money, but they pay me back. And he heard that. I just said I'm still retired, you know. So he did what he had to do. And he was really impressed that I was, he never knew how old I was. You know, and I just feel good to know that I'm 200 and something,

but I took care of myself and that I hope that I can get the 30 summers that I want out of this. And that it'll put me at 90. I'm a believer. I get 30 summers, baby. But I lead, don't cry for me. are you going to get the early social security payments?

Because you can get it like 63 or 65. So imagine this right now right. Imagine I'm going to be working. I'm still going to look young. I'm still driving nice cars. And getting social security. Right. And going to have

a bad bitch breathing on me. Breathing. So now imagine career check, Medicare check, right? I still got all my insurance.

Oh. Everybody should want to live the life I live to live that long to get all them checks. Still look amazing. Still, dick get hard. No medication. I fuck like I'm 18. Life is good. Life is good.

I was just as bad at fucking 18 as I am now. Yeah, I'm a bad motherfucker in that bad. Actually, I could have been in your possession. But, my- Pause. Yeah, I could have been in your possession. But, mm-mm. You ever heard of Brian Pumper?

Yeah, on the swell do, yeah, he has no skills. Interview's over. TK.K. Yo, it's always a pleasure, my man. Always a pleasure. We fist bump it now. Hopefully, we'll have no mask at all next time we do it in the view and we'll be vaccinated. I don't know if you're going to vaccinate.

I'm getting vaccinated. Well, I'm going to wait for the one shot. Oh, right. Yeah, you ain't going to get me twice. Okay. You know, but I'm going to get it, but I'm getting the one shot. heard that. Hey, if little baby and Meg the

Stallion ain't going to do vaccination commercials, the closest we can hope for is TK. Yeah, I get the one shot. And I want to be a true example, one of the coldest gangs in the world. See, they talk about gangs, but they don't really talk about the gang. And I am

an AARP member. And if you could live to get an AARP card, that's a real flex. That's a real flex. You should get it laminated and rocking around your neck. AARP. And when you call for your reservations for your rent a car and everything and the prices eye.

He said, oh, I'm an AARP member. This man put you on game from the beginning to the end of this podcast. That's right. That's right. Easy. TK. Kirkland, may your pain be champagne. TK. Kirkland, No Jumber, coolest podcast on the world. Check us out on YouTube, SoundCloud, iTunes.

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