No Jumper - The Trell Interview: Becoming a Hoover Crip, Falling out with Tyga, Joining No Jumper & More

Episode Date: January 4, 2022

Adam sits down with T-Rell for a one on one about his come up, Tyga, Lil Wayne, Young Money, being on No Jumper, married life, fatherhood, being an influencer, what he's got in the works and more! https://www.instagram.com/_kingtrell/ ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumper coolest podcast in the world, and I'm in here today with the man himself. T. Rao, how you doing? I'm on this motherfucker, man. I feel good. I said that about everybody. That doesn't really, like, fully encompass how long they've been waiting for this conversation. And how long you've really been waiting in the studio today for like 20 minutes. You damn right. You was late. Yeah, sorry about that. Come on, dog. Everybody canceling now. I'm here. You know what I'm saying?

With my girl out here 30 minutes early. Ugh, disgusting. Terrible. I want all my No Jumper fans All my Tiny Cuff fans You know what I'm saying To blow this fucking interview up too When y'all see this shit Smash the dislike

It ain't no more dislike It's over with it No there is You just can't see it That's fucking stupid That's so stupid That's so stupid I think that there's a plug in

You can get for your browser So you can view how many dislikes You actually do have But that's so I don't want to see it Nobody's nobody wants to see that stupid It pisses me off When I click on a video And I can't tell

How many people hated it Why? Because that's like a very valuable piece of information. No, it's just because your ass loves to say whatever's going on. If they hate it, I fucking hate it. No, but if you know that there's a big contingent of people out there who do hate it, then that's much more

information than just knowing, oh, everybody who saw this liked it. Well, damn, if they disliking it, that mean you're just going to dislike it too. That's crazy. I'm going to dislike it. It just means that at least I'll know that there are people who dislike it. I'll know that there's a strong contingent of people who feel that way. Nah, fuck that. There's a lot of information to be discerned from the likes and dislikes.

No. You go behind the fucking crowd. You can see it. As a creator, you can see it. You just can't see it as an observer that I know of. So unless 69. You like that? You said you didn't like that. You didn't have a gang of dislikes when it was going up. No, but the fact that it had so many dislikes, didn't that seem like an important thing to know when you watch that song? You were like, this shit is fucking trash. This is obviously trash. I did not say that.

I said apparently something. people disliked it. That shit bang. She'd been DMing me, acting like she wanted to do the interview, and then... She should fucking do the interview. I like her. I don't know. She's cool.

Yeah, but now she's probably not going to want to do it since you just lied and said that I said the song was trash. I just wanted to do no his opinion on it. And he never gave his opinion on it. He said, I, fool. He's too political. That shit was good, though. I fuck with it.

I fuck with you. You listen to a lot of female Hispanic rappers? No. Me neither. Who else is on the list? Yeah, who else is out there? That's why she's breaking doors down, dude. J-Lo just bust her rap.

I think J-Lo was rapping. Why, sure? I think so. I think she busted a couple of verses. Puff got in her ear for a minute. He was doing more than getting in her ear. Might have gotten her ear. Yeah, might have fell in there.

Yeah. All those years on tour of Young Money, you were getting a bitch of ear? Yeah. Put your little Willie in there? I got in a couple of ears. You know what I'm saying? That's hot.

Now my girl got to hear that shit. Yeah, no. I like how you brought her here, so we got to keep this very, Or you can get beat up in the whip after. You know what I'm saying? Go rated R. She don't give a fuck she's trying to see.

Uh, yeah. I mean, you ever had a fight in the whip? You and Lynn ever swabbing the whip? She doesn't attack me, so no. Oh, so y'all don't get violent? Y'all don't argue? We argue, but it doesn't get there. I always wonder, like, what would you argue about?

Like, you fucking bitches with your girl. Like, what would the argument ever be? Like... Well, that's a pretty easy way to get into an argument. Why? Because you're fucking another girl with her. so she's letting you so what the fuck is the argument

right but I mean at times cooler heads do not prevail and you might get into a riff over that all the lights going out man he's back that's a bad sign

that's that shit happened last time on our podcast whole lights go out dog yeah fuck it I like it though it can just flicker all

all day if the cameras go out then we have problem. Yeah. Anyway, what do you think that people want to hear us talk about since this is such a must-ask for interview? I mean, I probably think they just want to know my backstory. You know what I'm saying? Or if I still give a fuck about Tiger or not. Oh, don't don't you feel like embarrassed that your co-hosts just bring up Tiger every five seconds? I feel embarrassed for you. After the last show, after the last show, it's pretty embarrassed. Because I just feel like, okay, here you are. You're doing

something you got a dope thing going and then they just keep bringing you back and i'm just like jesus christ let it go just let let the man breathe a little bit i'm my own fucking man you see me right here in the interview with you yeah i got here i'm so proud of myself i got here not giving a fuck right i'm proud of myself like i wasn't really a fan or you know what i'm saying always wanted to be here on a platform and shit like that just my my thing and i'm just here being myself man i'm proud of my motherfuckers. Even though I still love you though. But I'm proud of myself being here, man. Even though we don't, we don't even talk about

shit. And you had to, you had to fight through all the friction that you had when you first got here. Josh saying, no, we don't want him on the channel. Me saying, I don't know that motherfucker. He's talking shit in the group chat. Yeah. Fuck that. Josh is shaking his hair. I didn't do that. What do you think the fans want to hear from?

Why do you think these motherfuckers want to hear me to interview so bad? Well, for the record, like I interviewed AD way before we even thought about having him do content house phone i interviewed like six fucking years ago like when i first met him i think you know do know i interview not knowing that he was going to be a part at the end of the day sharp i interviewed not knowing that he was going to be on the channel this is the first arguably interview that i've done with one of the hosts about like after they've already become a person who's earning

money from no jumper being on a consistent basis so it is kind of unique yeah that's cool did i make you uncomfortable when I first came? No. Why would I be uncomfortable? I don't know. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes my energy just make certain people uncomfortable and you don't, you know, you're not like that big friendly guy, you know what I'm saying, when you first meet motherfuckers. Oh, no, no, no, no. My walls are up high. You got to be careful. Yeah.

That's when I first met you. I ghosted you. I was like the ghost me on his fucking interview, you know what I'm saying? Godly. I love when you, you've told that story on the No Jummer show or on the AD podcast. and on fucking Treb's interview with you on the VBC, which is if people want to watch this, they really should watch that first because that's like the main point of reference that I have. I learned a lot about you from watching that. See, when you do interviews, I know you probably like try to research, but with me you probably can't research shit, you know what I'm saying?

Because I was always a behind the scenes guy. So I know you probably was like, what the fuck this nigga did and what he do? You have music videos, 20 million views with fucking, what's her name, that randomized girl rap Or who went, oh, honey cocaine. Don't do honey like that. Fucking, you got TV appearances from some show back in the day that I don't I never even knew existed. I'm watching that.

I'm like, wow, this is like literally the same person. It doesn't seem that you change that much since then. Like, you still talk exactly the same. You're still doing the same shit on camera in that reality show shit that I see you do for the blog camera. Like, I don't fucking know, man. Like you just go into this little monologue and shit. I'm like, he's not changed that much.

Man, yeah, shit. I'm like Tupac out here, whatever. role niggas gonna be the same fucking me the same shit you know what I'm saying you walk around feeling like Tupac me too oh god my birthday is a day apart man I'll take pride in that really me a future a day apart same year I think

too oh you lethal that's why you're doing what you doing but I only got one baby mom yeah you might be above future you he ain't got to the porn scene yet and I can spell her name unlike future no that's how you spell her nickname oh is it yeah

I didn't even see I just seen the headline future misspelled his baby mom his name on my Instagram shout out I'm like wow that's bruff I grew up her man oh really yeah yeah I grew up in the skating ring we used to go to the skating a lot man world on wheels just to do it up man what year did that's up being a thing because I've heard so much history from there a big you beating people up outside of there lining them up and knocking them down my boy Gabe used to be out there skating all the time probably like 2008ish that's when it closed I think it stopped being a thing because uh I think the east coasts is in like the Grape Streets had like crazy amount of beef and people start getting killed.

And that was at Skate Depot. World on Wheels has always been some gang shit. You know what I'm saying? And then that happened to close down. But yeah, that was always some gang shit. Schoolyard crypt, you know what I'm saying? Like, it was always going crazy in there. So, yeah.

But 2008, like, it probably just, you know, died down. And then people just really stopped going because the gang shit was just too crazy. Really? Yeah, it was too crazy. Damn. Were they, like, embracing that shit at all? Or were they like making it, like, were you not allowed to wear colors when you were in there? It was like crazy list of rules that patting you down.

They got to find the burner before you go in there. I mean, shit, Skate Depot is a little further from us, you know, L.A. game bangers. And then even Compton, too, still, though, you know, like, they'll travel down to Skate Depot. So at that point, it's like, whoever come deep, nigger on Tuesday, whoever come the deepest, that's what's happening. You're going to get your ass whoop. So, niggas was just chancing it. Like, wow.

You feel what I mean? If I owned a skating rink, I would not. Yeah, if you own a skating rink and you think there's any chance that somebody's going to get a shot there, it's bad. That's all bad. That's a business owner. It's a terrible fucking good chance you might get shot there and beat up. And, you know, my boy Gabe was doing a lot of that shit. Beating people up, you know what I'm saying?

At the skating ring. His name, one punch. He got that for a reason. Yeah, he got that for a reason. I never, I don't think I ever saw him beat anybody up. I seen him get up in people's faces and they immediately back down. Nah, he was knocking shit out. Yeah.

For sure. That was my first, like, L.A. street friend. I learned a lot from him. I learned a lot from that action video that you did with that nigga though, man. The interview from back in the day? Yeah. I didn't know he did karate or tie. Where the fuck he did? You man, I was for the talking to the camera like he's the man, rest of peace. My boy, but godly, dog, you fucking making the fucking vein dead in your shin. Oh, from kicking the fucking tree or whatever.

Fis and shit like that. I'm like, that's why your ass is over here beating people up. deading his shin so he had no nerve left to hurt bro was fucking people up you saw it like beating with people ass really quick wow like gotta break him up it was crazy because we would always hear him tell us gang stories from back in the day and crazy-ass street stories but when we were out riding with him he would usually just be on some bike riding shit so we never really got to see like i never firsthand knew about any of that shit and then we don't see him for a couple of years years and then he gets killed in front of his fucking grandma's house and it's like oh that nigga was a adventurous thing i didn't know he would even like take it that serious but

he always was on his bike he was jumping off roofs and all type of shit he always did flips and backflips and then when he said he was in gymnastics that fucked me up like i thought you was just a hood gymnastic motherfucker and i actually want to take classes yeah like using gymnastics like he was always that nigga so on top of gang banging and gymnastics then being mixed riding like football like this thing it was like all around actually there was 12 and he went to russia to do gymnastics bro i'm like are you fucking kidding i have every single 12 year old kid from south central at that time or whatever i'm assuming none of them have been to russia that's pretty out there fuck no crazy

hell no so you want to tell us a little bit about your early days since this is a no jumper interview and i'm kind of required to ask that of everybody i mean how early you want to go back Let's go all the way back. Talk about your upbringing, man. Well, yeah, you know what I'm saying? My upbringing started on the east side of Los Angeles. Well, east side, maybe west side of Los Angeles, 88th and Broadway, one of the sickest streets, you know what I'm saying,

around the 80s at that time. Because Freeway Rick Ross' mom lived on the same street we lived on. Really? Yeah, so it was crazy. So everybody on our street really had bread, you know what I'm saying? Because he was shower money for real. So he was still free in the early days. So this was before, because he did what,

20 years? Yeah, I'm old. So this is before he went to jail. Wow. This is before he went to jail. Yep. I'm saying I used to see money in my mama like fucking in a bare room in my room, meat coats everywhere. Everybody, you know what I'm saying? This is crazy. This is how old I am. You know what I'm saying? Beach cruisers was tight. People, you know, riding their bikes up and down the street sweatsuits and catalanx and shith. I'm like, this shit crazy. How was your mom getting mine? She was a lookout. Man, my mama had a cleaning business. You know what I'm saying? Like, Duno, but she was cleaning those nakes. his houses. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Freeway Rick homies and friends and cousins and shit. She made it into

a business, yeah. And so at what age you start to process it? Like, oh, this is a drug block? I processed it right when he went to jail. Right when he went to jails when I noticed that this shit wasn't legit. So before that you thought the shit was sweet.

You just thought like, oh, this guy's really figured something out over here. This nigga got hotels over here. He got stores. I'm like, this motherfucker the president. out here. I'm like, damn. Wow. Man, that was crazy, bro. I'm telling you. I used to go with my mama to clean their houses and shit. I only saw cash. I never saw

no dope. But I only, I did see a lot of cash. And all of them documentaries and movies was not lying. She used to clean his one condo. I remember it should be trash bags full of money. And the shit should be all on the table. What the fuck is this? Wow. Yeah, on everything, bro.

So you remember how the neighborhood changed once he got locked up or did anything change? When he got locked up, the neighborhood went to shit. I'm not even going to lie to you. The neighborhood declined, nigga, dramatically. Really? Yep. And as a kid, I seen that shit, too.

I seen everybody struggling. I seen everybody moving different. You know what I'm saying? I've seen people moving. You know what I'm saying? Dying? Like, it was crazy. But did you get that the money that was being made was also a result of a lot of people being

strung out on drugs in that area as well? Like, did those pieces connect in your head? I was a little-ass kid. I didn't know. shit but when I'm saying when he went to jail and people are trying to connect they dots and do probably do what he was doing even some of my family members were strong got on drugs like my auntie like my my uncle sold dope to my auntie you know what I'm saying and I used to see her she was my favorite auntie you know what I'm saying like I used to love her to

death but she was cracked out you know what I used to go over his house I was like okay this shit's getting bad right it's crazy wow you never tried it fuck you I want to try it I've never even seen that shit. I said that to my girl the other day. I said, you know, I've never seen somebody do heroin in real life. I've never seen it. I just kind of fucked up. Like, I should have seen it at least one time.

You know, the only time I seen crack was when I was in the projects? Really? Yeah, I was in the projects. Yeah, Bonnie Hunter projects. I've seen a nigga cooking crack. That's crazy that you did that stupid-ass video, but I was seen a nigga cooked crime. I'm like, this shit is crazy. I will forever get shit for that, even though that was not real crack.

I wonder why they get you shit for that? Because they think that I filmed these guys cooking crack, and then they, It was this big gang takedown and they arrested this whole gang. And the reason why they knew that they were selling crack was because of this no jumper vlog. When in reality, all the dudes that got busted were not in that video. It's a completely different thing. I pulled up and this was their bright idea. It was like, oh, we're going to cook up this wax and pretend that it's crack.

And we ended up blurring it anyway because we thought that on YouTube, you know, we didn't think it implicated them. It actually made it seem more like real drugs because we blurred it. Because you would have been able to, like somebody who knew about cooking crack would be able to be able to. to tell that it wasn't cracked if we had not blurred it. Yeah, I mean, you're the white man with the most common sense. They probably would have think you'd have said, let's not do this. I pulled up that said, we want to do the scene for the vlog. I said, all right.

Fuck it. Fuck it. Yeah. It's your building. It's your block. You can do whatever you want. Yeah. Yeah, well, yeah.

Cracked, yep. And then after that, that's when it all started. We moved to the 50s. Once we moved to the 50s, it got crazy. And that's when you felt like you needed to squat up or what? For the 50s, yeah. I mean, for the 50s, it just felt like it was a family-oriented neighborhood.

You know what I'm saying? We didn't cross the tracks. Like, we didn't go out the 50s. We only stayed in the 50s. And we didn't have to really go nowhere. Everybody loved each other, you know, house parties, you know, on Q Street. They used to block the street every year, you know what I'm saying? And that shit was just tight, you know what I'm saying?

The 50s was tight. But that's, you know what I'm saying? That's where it all started. So you move there and you have to join a gang or you choose to join a gang? What space does this occupy in your mind? Why do you feel like you needed to do that? Well, every, you know, I was evolved around all my homies and their friends and family members was from Hoover, you know what I'm saying?

So I didn't really have to be from Hoover. I'm like, I don't got to do this shit. I still was going to the set day and all the whole little shit. Like, because I was welcome because we all lived over there. So, you know, he's from Hoover, but I stay in the neighborhood. I'm from the 50s. whatever the case may be, I can still go. But, you know, it's a lot of shit

happened, you know what I'm saying? When we was younger and a lot of death happened when we was younger. So one day, you know, my little brother, Fran, got shot. He got shot in front of them all. You know what I'm saying? And I don't know. I think they was probably like 13 years old.

And that just, that one moment just, like, shattered them in the inside. Like, they, and they just had hatred. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, still right now, like, it just, it put a certain, like, hatred in their body and and their soul. So after that, my little brother, he was actually like, you know what?

I'm from the, he was from a little clique, but he was like, you know, I'm going to go do the thing. He's saying, you know, one day he'd come home. He's doing it up. I see different niggers with him. You know what I'm saying? And one day he was like, you know, fuck it. And I'm like, well, you know, this is my little brother. You know, I'm a ride or die for you because you're a little-ass nigger.

You know what I'm saying? These other big niggas might fuck your ass up. So if anything ever happened like that, I try to get at you like that, I'm going to be right there for you. It's crazy because people are always trying to have the conversation. Usually when somebody dies, it's like, how do we stop the cycle, the violence? I mean, right there. That's probably why it's not going to stop anytime soon is because one person gets killed and it just creates this fucking avalanche of animosity towards. other people and you know you see it where like decades later a lot of times that shit is still

alive and well yeah but how do you stop that fucking avalanche how do you stop that shit i always ask my homies right now to this day like how the fuck do we stop that you know what i'm saying now i understand at the older age why i see why people target the youth because you know what i'm saying because you grownups and you know what i'm saying you adults don't understand you stuck in your way so we got to attack the youth we got to teach them different but still we can only teach them different here and there. You know what I'm saying? Maybe a holiday or weekend or you know what I'm saying a couple days out of the week but they also got to go home and when they go home they still like evolved around the ignorance and then you just it just starts like trickling down like it's nothing like

we can really do so I'm like how the fuck do we stop that shit? Right. Yeah that shit is crazy but yeah it's hard to say because I mean you know you can provide opportunities to the people who have potential and who are the most gifted from a certain area. But at a certain point, it's like those, those aren't going to be the ones who turn into shooters in the first place, you know, the dudes who become successful clothing entrepreneurs or fucking YouTubers or whatever. I mean, those probably weren't the dudes who were going to go kill somebody anyway. It's going to be the dudes who are lost who maybe aren't necessarily smart enough to, like,

you know, go to college or get a job or really, you know, usually it ends up being the people. And not like, it's always like that because a lot of times it's just the person who really, really, really wants to get revenge for something that they saw done to their friends how the fuck do you beat that you can't I don't know how to fuck you beat that that's why I'm saying it's a never end the story especially with all the shit going on I'm like

it's just a never end story rappers getting killed or Draco getting killed like Slam 400 get killed like what the fuck like when is it going ever stop it then his homies gonna have a forever vendetta against somebody and his homies and their homies like how do you actually stop that shit you can't

how do you turn that shit off like How do you do it, right? When did you start to see past that? Because I feel like everybody has that moment where they start to realize that the world is, not everybody, but the people who do get out of that circumstance have a moment where they realize how much bigger the world is. I mean, how I got past it is, you know, a through tiger.

You know what I'm saying? I had more good time. It still fuck you. You know what I'm saying? Let's just get that out the way. You know what I'm saying? But some of your homies you say fuck you too. The only time heals all.

But, you know, when I, When I met that nigga, I had more good times and bad times. And, you know, I've never been out of California in my life until I met that nigga. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, I met that nigga. And then we went somewhere like Arizona. Not too crazy, but I packed the whole big ass bag like I was going to, you know what I'm saying?

London. Like, it was crazy. Like, yeah, he, like, he started showing me things that I thought I'd never ever fucking see. And that shit just delight in me. Did you meet him under the pretense of you kind of protecting him or what? because like on Clubhouse, you hear Wack 100, this is the dude who was protected, Tiger, yada, yada. Did you feel like that at the time,

or did that just kind of become the circumstance? At the time, I was hanging with him because I'm like, well, maybe I could probably potentially rob the nigger or something. At first? At first, you know what I'm saying? I didn't even go live too. I might get this thing too.

Fuck it. Let's go in here because I know how to talk. You know what I'm saying? I don't know how to, for naga to 100. whole little shit, but how I met the niggas through schoolboy Q. I met the nigga through schoolboy Q and then school boy Q had like a little

small following out with the nigga or whatever the case may be over whatever happened, you know what I'm saying? Some chain getting snatched some shit like that and Q did whatever he had to do and then you know T. Raw had some money and you know didn't distribute it right or whatever the case

may be and Q like you know what I ain't fucking with that nigga no more. And then you know I used to live in Compton. You know what I'm I stayed in Roddy Ridge Hood. I stayed in the Sunny Cove. So I used to live in Compton. I used to throw a lot of parties or whatever the case. And one day the sheriffs came by,

and the homies had a gun outside, threw it in a tree. The sheriff's running my house. Luckily, I was across the street from my house when this happened talking to somebody, and I see the police rushing in my house, blah, blah, like, all right, they're going to rush in my house. They ain't going to spy and they're going to come out. We're going to go back partying because we don't give a fuck.

Young, drunk, don't give a fuck. So once that shit happened, you know what I'm saying? They like, hey, the owner, they're looking for the owner. I'm the owner. You know what I'm saying? I was probably like 23, 25. You owned the home? You had actually bought the home or you rented it?

Yeah, I bought the home. You know what I'm saying? I actually bought the home I lived in too when I used to live in the 50s on 56th street. You know what I bought the home over there when I was 19. I let all the homies stay with me, live with me all that. How are you getting money at this time? I was doing my thing and I was working. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, I was doing my thing and I was working. There's a lot of ways to do your thing. thing but whatever you say. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Use your imagination. But yeah, man, yep. I was, well, whatever happened. They was looking for the owner.

I couldn't go back home to Compton. You weren't fucking with them no more. So I'm like, fucking, I'm going to go over here with your little homie. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to go fuck with him. Whatever, when I'm in L.A. He's like, all right, go fuck with that nigga. Fuck that nigga.

But you still own that home. You just didn't want to do parties there anymore because you felt like the cops were going to show up and then you were going to have to deal with this gun situation? Yeah, I owned a home. I didn't want to go back and they was still looking for me. Because my little brother at that time, he looked just like me. He was skinny. He just was a little shorter.

Now he's fat as fuck. But he was skinny. You know what I'm saying? And they used to pull him over at the check cash and place on Wilmington like, hey, we got him. He's like, oh, that's his brother. I'm like, oh, these things really looking at me. They're trying to plant some guns on me. Wow.

I'm like, well, fuck that. I ain't never going back. Right. You know what I'm saying? That shit wasn't mine. I ain't going back over there. I mean, you might have to go to court, but ultimately, it's not like they would have been able to pin the gun on you just because they found it in a bush in front of the house during a house

party i'm sure you weren't thinking about it like that but really what were they going to do right yeah i don't you know just ignorant niggins shit and i'm saying being scared i'm terrified of that is too yeah i tried to sell the house really yeah i tried to sell the house and that's when the market crashed so i'm gang bang and got houses i know when the market crashed and all type of shit like 2008 this was like 2006 7 right yeah yeah and the market crash. I bought a house at like almost the exact same, at the height of the market at that time in New Hampshire. Off of my like poker money at the time. Yeah. And then the fucking market crashes. I think I bought it for 140,000 and it was worth like 80,000, like a couple months later. Damn. So that was

rough. I bought some shit. I bought my house was like 400,000. They're in Compton. Yeah. 400. Jesus Christ. 400. I'm like, oh, I'm going to sell this bitch. You feel me? I'm at least get 50 out of it. Uh-huh. Or whatever, because I'm just try to sell it fast. I'm like in the real estate agent was like uh the market just crashed I'm like what the fuck that that means it was like she was like your house is worth 250 now and I'm like what wow yeah I let that shit go on foreclosure and I kept hanging with target wow oh god and haven't happened crazy but so you already had the entrepreneurial mind state like you if you hadn't met him and and figured out that that was an opportunity you would have been doing something else because when you talk about like

the party shit and whatever the fuck you were doing the streets or whatever it sounds like you were going to make it one way or another right yeah one way another i was gonna do it if you talk to any of my homies i've been doing it since i was young i'm gonna do i've been doing all this shit since i was young already 18 19 you know what i'm saying right two-story house nigga in the ghetto you know what i'm saying back house letting all my homies stay there niggas living working doing all the shit you feel me right yeah so when you got rid of the house but did you always have the mind state though that you weren't really trying to well like when did it kick in that you were like i don't want to be breaking the law for a living because

that shit is not going to last me a long time. When I start hanging with that nigga, going on tours and rapping and seeing this shit and being on tour a little Wayne, Drake and Diddy and Nikki Minaj and all of this shit, I'm like, this ain't it. This is not it out here. You know what I'm saying?

Like, nice to still have one foot in and one foot out. You should still go back and try to go on the block and try to kick it and all of that. And then I start having kids. And I'm like, it's not it. How old's your oldest kid? 12. Oh, 12?

Yeah, she's 12. I saw that family photo and I was just like, Jesus Christ, this girl looks old as fuck. I'm like, how the hell is this his kid? I'm like, grown as fun. I'm like, she looks like she's fucking 17. I'm like, how old is this dude? Damn, I know black don't crack.

That's how I felt when Blue Jasmine showed me the fucking her 16-year-old son on FaceTime or whatever too. I was like, oh my God. I was like, are you fucking serious? You have a kid that's this old? Oh, my God, dog. That is crazy. It surprised me with that.

But yeah, man, him doing all that. That shit made me, it opened my eyes and it opened up, you know what I'm saying? And I spreaded that shit out to a few of my homies, you know what I'm saying? Some didn't catch it, some did. Were you in a relationship when you had that kid, or was that just kind of a random thing? No, that was on and off. I was on and off, yep. But then you had a big gap before you started making more kids?

Yeah. Did you swear off it? Was it like over, were you fucking terrified to have more? Yeah, I actually, after my first one, I'm like, this is it. I ain't have no kids. I have no girlfriend. I ain't have none of that bullshit until I met Heather. Right.

Because when you're young, I mean, I was deathly afraid of having a kid when I was young. I knew how bad it was going to fuck my life up if I did. That's what I was just saying. I was like, why don't fuck do people say that kids are going to fuck their life up when it just makes it even better? Yeah, but like the closest I came when I was like 21, I remember I got drunk as fuck, nutted in this girl out in Pensacola, Florida. If I had got that bitch pregnant, it would have probably ruined my life.

Well, I mean, at the very least, I would be sitting here. right now with a white trash baby mama in Pensacola. I mean, it's not ideal. It's not really like how I would have ideally wanted my life to turn out. Dan, how many, how many week bitches do you ever netted in? Oh, probably

hundreds. I don't know, because I've never nutted than anybody. I was rocking condoms like a motherfucker, which is crazy to me now because I can never, ever wear a condom again. Never? Well, maybe if I had to. I ain't having no more kids. I'm with the condom. I'm with birth control and all that shit. I can't have any more

kids, fuck that shit. You should get your fucking tubes tied, man. Me? Yeah. Or her. Fuck, no. I mean, when we might change our mind at 50. Nifty.

Oh, God. That's cool. But, okay, so how many years exactly would you say that you were actually on the road doing this shit? And then Last Kings is like the next step in that journey, right? But how many years were you on the road? So much shit happened within two years. like two years probably like it was fucking amazing then last games happened okay so two years and

during that he's his career is like really taking off skyrocketing like all of a sudden he's just getting crazy opportunities big songs on the radio all this shit yeah after like bear rock after he did that song because he wasn't on uh every girl in the world wow so you were around for bedrock that's crazy bed rock yeah i was in the studio when they all recorded it except drake really yep Oh God. And then I was in a studio when Nikki brought like a verse to the studio, but he didn't like it. Really? And she had to go do it over.

And I think it was something like that with every girl in the world. I'm not sure. But she was like super upset. Like I'm going to be on this motherfucking song. Like that was that like record playing in there. In Hollywood, she's like, I'm going to be on this motherfucking song. We're doing it. Like because they knew that those hits, like those hits were.

were going to take them over the top, guaranteed. Right. Because you get to perform it. And I mean, it's hard to imagine anybody telling Nikki that shit now. But at the time, it was still, you know, she's pretty much like a new artist. Little Wayne was mean. Little Wayne was mean as a motherfucker. Mean like a dick or mean like he just knew what he wanted and he wasn't trying to, you know,

when you're a normal person and you're in a workplace and, you know, the other person on the other side of the office smells bad, you gotta be nice about it. But then all of a sudden, one day, you're Lil Wayne, and it's like, motherfucker, you stink, get in the shower. Yeah,

I sound like AD right now. He was so cold. He would tell me every nigga in the studio, like you trash. Really? Like, you trash, you trash, like, get your ass up out of here.

He said you weren't trash, right? He told me I was trash, too. Oh, really? But then at some point, he told you you you were all right? Yep, he did. He told me, I said this before,

but he told me, look, I was Tygo was rapping the verse right and I was like ooh that shit hard right in the studio he waited to everybody did they fucking verse

gutta everybody right and then he cut it off he was like that shit trash everybody in here and he was like who are you and I was like

my name T.R. He was like hey this is your homie he was like hey don't never say shit in my studio

session until this nigga got you financially stable you financial stable and I was like no he was like then that nigger trash the whole studio just looking at me like oh shit wow but it was true though like damn I'm like we ain't financially stable nigger we got to do it up right yeah I mean was that going through

your head a lot during that time period of like damn I'm around all these people who are getting rich as fuck we always wondered this about like the rapper's hype man or whatever you know like are they really you see the rapper making millions of dollars you wonder like is is the hype man necessarily sharing in this at all? Like, did you feel like you were, like, obviously, you're getting great opportunities because you're around all these superstars and you're on touring stuff, but were you also thinking in the back of your head, like, I'm not making enough money for being here, and this is kind of a waste of my time in a sense.

You got damn right. And one day I woke up and said, we need to start a clothing line because we wearing BBC too fucking much. Right. And this nigga giving us, he'd given us free clothes, but we need to be making our own money. This was around when Tisa was out with Tass Arna was done. doing his shit too. He was wearing his hats. And I'm like, we need to wear our own

shit. Let's sell it. And this is very early before every rapper figured out that they needed their own merch or their own clothes on. On God in heaven, because it wasn't no other rappers. It was just Tiger. When he was younger, it wasn't no other rappers out. None of these niggas wasn't out. I don't remember no one being no

younger rappers like his age being out. You feel me? Like, at that time, that year, like, it wasn't no one. Right. Yeah. And was his situation, like, you know, people hype up, or maybe they hype up, maybe they're not hyping it up when they say like T.R. was protecting him in the streets. Like, was it, because it's very rare to see a rapper come up out of L.A. who's not either from a gang or essentially looped in with a gang that's kind of got

his back. Yeah, I'm pretty much like why, nigga, he's respected right now in the music industry in Los Angeles, California. I let him build that rapport with other people. I walked them in these rooms and made them niggas feel comfortable because of where I was from and what I was doing. You feel me? Like, at first when I met that nigga, he was just getting robbed every other fucking week.

You feel me? Robbed like somebody run up in the crib or robbed like pistol in the face. Like, no, he got his chain snatch. Then Gator got his chain took. Then, you know, it was just too much, it was too much on the internet already. Like YouTube.

You know, homies going, like these niggas was going crazy on this nigga. You know what I'm saying? saying I'm like so he had a song coconut juice or whatever happened and that shit is that shit failed you know what I'm saying when it went down the drain he was trying to get his career back up so I start hanging with him but as I'm hanging with him I'm noticing all this crazy she's like these niggas dishing I'm like ain't no nigga dishing me why I'm with you so we're gonna go check him and he like all right he like I just looking at me like all right I'm like no nigga I'm serious so whatever little party I checked every nigga on the internet to this day I checked them all of you niggas and everybody know like hey don't ever talk crazy about that nigger no more I'm on your head period only nigga I didn't get was this nigga with braces I don't know I forget the nigga name but I never caught up to that nigga but every rapper everybody who ever dissed them got checked you have to do anything crazy or you just no I'm a loke and I just

I'm a loke so I know these niggas is scary this is the music industry and he's scary too so but I got to let these niggas know like he would a real one so we ain't doing that shit no more because my reputation on the line and my homie's reputation on the line so we ain't doing none of that you know what I'm saying we walking through nigger our head hells high and our chest up nigga and we knocking shit down nigga period but so you're a loke but you're also from hoover because you are from the the rare who are set the five deuce hoobers this is what I've ascertained from watching a lot of street videos in the internet so you're a hoover and a crib which is relatively rare yeah age gc you know what I'm I'm saying we're the only hoover's that didn't give up the C you know what I'm saying

Hoover gang's a crib everybody else said fuck everything is really really anybody killer you know what I'm saying it's criminal game so they change they shit to ACG so you guys have specific enemies like like the all the other hoovers have issues with certain people and then your issues with other people is completely different no no that's the same shit okay it's the same shit it's the same shit doing the same shit that shit don't mean that they you know niggas are just going by what they what they grew up on and what what what what what older homies grew up on and that's what we got put up put on under nigger and that's what we gonna stay and that's what they did but so you would you ever rock a blue rag or only orange rag

no we we rocked both yeah rock both you know what I'm saying but the orange is just sick right yeah just stand out I met AD it was at a fucking Hoover slash Crip music video shoot everybody all together having good time was I there I don't think so is that greed on max up video oh no I wasn't there that's I met Elshan oh yeah a few other people about Sean the homie. Yeah. Yeah,

I've been knowing him too, so I was a kid. Nice. Yeah. When, okay, so you said we want to start a clothing line

and then what, what, like, were you specifically bring it to that? Like, had you always been interested in clothes

in general, or were you just kind of like, this is your first time fucking with this concept? Well, I brought the whole air, the whole

aesthetic. I brought the whole aesthetic with my boy named SB. You went to Egypt? Well, no, I had to,

this is, You know what, that's funny because I want to go to Egypt too. It was funny because I had to study like my culture. Like I was seeing Taz Arnold and I was like, what the fuck Tisa mean and all the whole little shit? Then he started telling me about different

little shit. I understood that he was a 5%er. He was Muslim. So I started getting into the supreme mathematics, the supreme alphabet. And I just wanted something that meant something. I'm like, okay, it has to mean something, it has to be a co-acronym for my culture. So, and then

And that's how the, that's how the, uh, Pharaoh came about, you know what I'm saying? But last was leaders of art style and talent, you know what I'm saying? And we was the kings of that. You feel me? So that's, that's really what it meant if niggas really don't fucking know because really the niggas didn't know. We just put the shit on the head and sold it. Right.

But yeah, I just really wanted that shit that means something. Right. And so the store on Melrose was a part of the whole plan from the beginning? Fuck no. No. Hell no. Everything just came about just fucking random. How long it took before that popped up?

Because even now, it's like, it's not that many. rappers that have stores in Hollywood. Oh, God. It took probably about a year, two years after we started the brand. Like, we were doing really fucking well. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to my boy Low, too, because I was doing

I was doing Sorrella, but I was doing Last Kings, but Sorrelia was doing just way, way, way better. You know what I'm saying? On lines, women, clothes. You already were doing Sorrela at the same time that you were doing last game? Yep, on God and Heaven, we started together. So you were already with Heather at that point? Yeah. I've been with Heather since I've been on tour,

nigga with Tiger. Oh, okay. I didn't realize you've been together that long. Yeah, we've been together for 11 years. So what was your ownership percentage of the Last Kings? Do you own any part of it? 30%. Okay. And so you're doing that and then you're also like, hey, babe, I want to do something where I have a bigger percentage of

it. Let's do this shit. Well, you know what I'm saying? Shout out to the T-Raw again, but you still a bitch. Shout out to Cah again, but you know what I'm saying? The nigga the nigga was like, I'm gonna, I came up on some money. I'm gonna give you some money. and you got to make it work. Right.

You know what I'm saying? And we're going to try to do this last king shit with this and do whatever else you want with the remaining. I'm like, all right, whatever. So I gave my girls some money. I'm like, go start you something. I'm going to take this last king shit and try to do it up.

Last king is super fucking hard to do. T-shirts, hats, production, and all that shit was so hard to get equality. Really? But Sorrella, on the other hand, I could just go, you know. Girls have no standard. for clothing?

Girls have zero standards. You sell them a fucking little stringy top and they're like, oh, I love it. Yeah, that niggas is brand loyal. Like women, they don't give a fuck. You know what I'm saying? So that shit was cool. She was booming.

That's actually super interesting because there's definitely like a massive difference between how men consume clothes and how women consume clothes. But I would not feel comfortable trying to explain the difference, but you're up front and personal for her, huh?

I mean, well, guys are brand loyal. Girls don't give a fuck. You know what I'm saying? If it looked cute, they're throwing it on, period. It could be from anywhere. Right. You know what I'm saying? Because girls really rock fashion over nonstop.

And, like, I mean, you're just not going to see like a rich dude rock a fashion over. But girls, like, if it looks cool, they just throw it on. I mean, yeah. Shots fashion over. Fuck fashion over. Nick of this Sorrella on this motherfucker. Even though I fuck a rich, I fuck with you though, rich.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Right. Yeah, that is, that's fucking crazy. Yeah, but we did have a store on there. It was probably a year after that shit. It was, it was, you know. It was cool.

And so did you just get super motivated by that? And you were like, start seeing this money. And you're like, you know what? Like, I just, I understand this game now. I'm just going to go hard as fuck with it. Niggia. In our first, like, year or two, you made like $15 million. And, yeah.

And then the story was just making money. And then I was just like, this shit is crazy. And Melrose was a great vibe at this time. Are you just having a blast being out there all the time? The thing, yeah, I was having a blast. The thing. that I learned though really truly you can't put a brand

behind a rapper because if that rapper career declines your brand is done and that's what was happening his brand was declining because he was declining right and the clothes wasn't stronger than

like his celebrity right and and that's when it just would start going downhill it is crazy because he has had like multiple sort of career resurgence. People have completely just counted them out and then all of a sudden his music is just popping again.

Because he know, he got that certain thing in his head. Like, nigga, I'm a rap star. I'm a superstar. All I need is a hit and these whole ass niggas niggas, they're going to be on my dick again. And that's really really how it happens. Anybody can get a hit and they're going to be on your dick. Yeah. Because his last sort of career

resurgence was like basically a bunch of booty records. Yeah. I see a lot of rappers try that and it don't work. But I'm saying that's your shit. That's what you're supposed to do. You know, early in his career, he didn't want to do that shit. Early in his career, he was just super, like, I don't know, like, maybe pop.

He wanted to go really pop or, you know, he wanted to do the gym class hero thing. Early in his career, and I'm like, no, nigga, we're from the ghetto, you with me, you know what I'm saying? Like, we're going to go out here and we're going to push it. We're going to, we should do this. And he's like, nah, we ain't going to do that, blah, blah, blah. You know what I'm saying? Was he talking gangster on records?

I don't remember. Sometimes he started talking gangster on records. He started talking gangster records. He was like, you know what? I want to tie myself to an L.A. artist. At first, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, cool. He was like, what's L.A. artist?

It's out there. And I'm like, shit. It was Charlie, I think it was Charlie, Charlie Huss. I don't know. I forgot. But it was Charlie or YG. You know what I'm saying? And then I'm like, yeah, let's fuck with YG then.

You know what I'm saying? I'm like, and he's hit YG and YG's like, cool, let's do a song. He was doing songs and shit like that. You know, that's how I think it really got out there as far as like the LA gangster rap and shit like that. YG put him in that circle in Los Angeles, California. He definitely did that. And then muster start, you know, making beats around that time.

But so you're like making all this money while his career is huge, and then you're actually watching the dollars coming in and start to dwindle as, because like me as a passive consumer that probably never would have gone to that store or never even thought about buying it. I definitely like saw that happening as like an observer of what was going on as I definitely just saw that the brands start to sort of lose some of its luster, which happens to all brands all the time for all kinds of reasons. But yeah, if the artist is starting to become kind of a joke and become kind of a punchline, then, I mean, of course their merch or their clothing line is going to basically go through the same thing. Although if you have like

a really truly hot clothing line, a lot of times your rap career can kind of fall off and people just ignore it because they still fuck with the clothes yeah for real like and that was just in his case that was the case but also like that was a different era where we just weren't really used to seeing rappers how that many clothing lines so it's it probably was more tied directly to his success yeah he was ahead of his time we just didn't do it right but would you say would you say him falling off that time was basically why you guys fell out or or what was it that led to you not really working with him as much yeah that's why i was why i was you start falling out because I start building my family you feel

me and then I can't go on the road with you and do what I did because at first nigga I was your tour manager manager nigga I'm your fucking assistant they got to do whatever for you you know what I'm saying at first I was that and then we created the clothing line I started getting a little money and but I was going on the road with them but I'm like this shit don't make no sense for me you know what I'm saying and then the brand started declining I'm like I got to be over here with this this baby over here to make sure we good because this is how I'm eating now

my family and I got a third way of living and this is how I want to this is how I want to live you feel me so ultimately when that shit started really really going down the drain you know I tried to revamp it do some new designs do some you know have a new little

marketing scheme a new drop come out and you know behind my back this bitch ass nigga go start something else you know what was that you know some some shitty started I don't know. I forget the name.

What was the name of that shit? Yeah, there's some of easy shit this nigga started. You know what I'm saying? And then he dropped the shit. Like, Last King's stores right here on Orange Grove. He dropped the shit at that store right on the corner of Fairfax and Melrose. Of the gallery? Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? So that shit had me hot, right? Everybody like, what you going to do? Because I'm over here. I gave these niggas jobs and all this shit. I'm the cool owner. I'm over here every day. And that shit just fucked every day.

everybody up too. So they like, looking at me like, oh, Ty you don't fuck with you no more. So it's just like I had to dumb it down for myself, act like I was supportive, go over there still like a bitch and, you know, and be cool and all of that shit. But then the brand really just took a dive and then one day we was on the phone or whatever. He was like, you always talking about last game. And I'm like, nigga, fuck you. That's when it just, you know. That was it. You know, I'm thinking this, my babies. I take care of my family. Bitch. You supposed to be helping me, nigga. What was his mistake, turning you into an entrepreneur?

They're like really putting that battery in your back because it occurs to me that if he had not giving you as much of an opportunity or not giving you the ownership stake or whatever, if he had kind of kept you in your place so that it probably would have worked out better for him. Oh, God. And worse for you.

If he didn't lace me with a, lace me with some game. But either or, either or I was still, I was still soaking it up. I was still soaking it up and still coming from where I came from I already had a little money. I already experienced all of this kind of little shit. I just never traveled. You know what I'm saying? So I still was going to make a way regardless. You know what I'm saying? And in the midst of

that we really started falling on because last he got sued. He got sued. There's so many fucking times. He getting sued for all type of shit. The thing is taking cars. Last King's everybody wants the shit. I'm like, damn, we're going to go down the drain. I'm like, man, our Last King shit got a, you know, what we're doing? He was like, why are you always talking about last King's?

Damn, I'm trying to do something else. I'm like, nigga, fuck you. And, you know, that was my last little conversation. But it's interesting too because now I feel like it's so normal to like meet a dope girl, start a relationship and then basically start businesses or start doing stuff publicly together.

Like when did that start to click in your head? Like, oh, this is not just a girl that I'm in a relationship with. This is like, we could like build something out of this together. That shit clicked in my head way before she was booming. You know what I'm saying? Well, it clicked in my head when

one day she told me because she used to hang around China is me, her, China, all the whole little shit. She really wasn't her. She wasn't Heather back then. She wasn't Heather Sanders. Right. You know what I'm saying?

Like, she was just like the bitch that's hanging with Tiger girlfriend. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, so we had to build that. And one day we was at the studio and she came out. She was like, I just want something on my own.

And she dropped a tear and I was like, you know what I'm like? Yeah. Fuck, let's do it. Yeah, I'm saying. Me and you. Let's do it. That's just really how it happened.

You know what I'm saying? That's crazy. She said that, we made that shit happen. And look where we're at. That's crazy. You're at the studio on Lancashem. Right.

Not even in North Hollywood. Did you decide to come here and start podcasting with us because of the fact that Black China has kind of become like the no jumper, like public enemy number one after that interview? Like the fans, the fans bring her up and talk about her.

Like I have this personal animosity towards her, which I do not give a fuck. Yes, I think she seems like a shitty person. But I mean, I can say that about all kinds of fucking celebrities. You know, like, I don't know. Is that why you came in? They're like, I'm going to get back at Black China again. Black China in the start.

She was a shitty person. Maybe she grew. You know what I'm saying? Maybe she grew. Based on that interview, I would say no. Man, her and Heather had a big falling out, a big crazy falling out. And it was so crazy. But I think she grew because she's seen Heather like a couple years later.

And she was like, I just want to tell you, I'm sorry, blah, blah, blah. Then I seen your interview. And I'm like, she called as a motherfucker. Black China and Tiger kind of seemed. perfect for each other. I'm almost surprised that didn't last longer. Because she was crazy as fuck. Yeah. She was crazy as a motherfucker. I helped, I helped his

uncle pack her shit. All her clothes. Look, she was arguing with this nigga one day. It was crazy and everybody was like, you know what? We fucking fed up. These motherfuckers is in Calabasas and the Oaks in the second gate with all the big ass houses at. Police every motherfucker where. This nigga

run into my house, packed in bags, sleeping at my house and shit when they get into it, right? And we like, you know, what? This shit is the next argument is over. And then he called us and he was like, the bitch broke my BET Award. She threw it against the wall or whatever. It's going

crazy, man. I got a couple of scratches on my leg or whatever. So we know what the fuck that mean. We like, all right, cool. So we go over there, we shoot over there. And we listen and me and Uncle look at each other. We like, oh, no. We fin of force the nigga to do it. So we're packing her

shit, nigga, and hockey bags. We put it in her fucking g-wack. G-wack. at the time. She ain't even paying attention to us and she's going in a room and she looks. She's like, oh, that's how it is, d' nigga. And she got her G-wagon, nigga. They ain't been together since. What a shame. Oh, God, and haven't ever, she was crazy.

But probably she changed. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to China. She probably changed. She probably changed. I'll fuck with her. Anything could change. I mean, she was honestly probably like the least likable person that I've ever had in here. I'd like to do an interview with, both on camera and off camera. So, from my perspective, if she has changed,

She must have been really whack before because she was whack as fuck when she came in here. I'm just to be real. She was wild as a motherfucker, bro. She was doing Mad Coke back then? I don't know what you was doing back then, nigga, but I'm going to tell you this one motherfucker incident. You know what I'm saying? You need to hear this, nigga, if you ever listen to this shit.

You had us in Germany all the way fucked all the way up, bro. She was arguing with Tyco on the bus. She comes storms out the room, asshole naked. boy people like oh she she look crazy she looked crazy you know what I'm saying she was always naked though that's the crazy part like I see her naked all the time like it was just regular like she really she didn't give a fuck bro like she's not no insecure bitch or nothing like that she didn't give a fuck so she come out screaming ah we had a gas station we're like what are she having one of her episodes they fight them or whatever the case may be boom they fight and we look

out the window the damn germany police over there I don't know what you call these niggas over there. But the police, we know it's the police. We see the lights on the thing. I'm like, if she get loud, it's going to get crazy. The bus driver getting scared. Next thing you know, bus driver get out. He's scared the police come walking over there. Damn. And we got weak. Can't have

weed. You know what I'm saying? We had a little nug. Somebody throw it in the toilet. Before that, they let everybody get off the bus. We get searched. Most embarrassing shit ever, homie. And Germany. They make us pull down our pants. Wow.

ass showing let me see what y'all got I'm like bitch you got me fuck all the way up after time but yeah she was wow she made us go through crazy shit like that dog crazy shit a lot of this like when I think about the T-Rill that I know

who's a family man who enjoys spending time at home enjoy spending time with his girls kids it sounds like a lot of the clout soaked experiences that you had might have kind of turned you off to being around people like early in your career, you're kind of willing to be around some shitty-ass people just because of the

opportunity. Just shitty-ass people, disloyal, motherfucker, shi-y people. Look you in your eye, just lie to you. Like, it was just so devilish, for real. Like, for the music, for the hit, for the, for the beat, for the producer to get in there. Like, we're just lying all fucking day. Every day we're lying. You know what I'm saying?

It's just like, fuck, they should take a toll on you. I don't want to do this shit no more. I'm out of here. Wow, really. Br, that shit just took a toll on me just, like, mentally, like, and just me getting into it, my friends. Like, YG was my friend, like, for instance, like, Mustard is my friend, like, and I had to get into,

I got into it with so many people for this nigga, you know what I'm saying? Like, even Chris Brown, like, we had words, like, but I gets into it with YG, I gets into it with Mustard. And me and YG see each other one day at Q Show, like, and we face-to-face, like, we damn near hate each other, Because at the time, you know YG, like, nigger, you're getting all this cut off off of me. Nick, my street credibility. You ain't, you ain't sharing all these hits in the money or whatever case may be.

But Niggas didn't know, but YG was throwing shots, a nigga back then. So I'm on YG head. Like, oh, nigga, I'm trying to beat a tough guy, whatever. YG's a really good sneak-disser. Yeah, he was sneak-dizzing for sure. It was just a Drake on the podcast. I didn't even know. For real?

I love Drake. That's crazy. And then they're fucking, like, YouTube videos about it. And I'm like, oh, that's what that meant. Okay. I thought he was just like talking shit in general. What would you diss that nigga got a big ass song?

Whatever, I would see that nigga at the show and we almost get our two. No, Drake. Oh, Drake. Oh, I was about to say. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, I knew. How the fuck you didn't know that?

I don't know. I might have just not been on my... People think I get everything. Oh, okay. He's saying some shit about the truth or like, you know, we know who the truth is or whatever. And like, in retrospect, it's like, oh, duh.

But then Drakeo do the same thing. He's sneak this and people in the interview, too. He was doing more than sneakness and niggas, too. He was blatantly. These are niggas. That's fair. But okay, so what about the YG thing?

Did you like patch it up with him there? Yeah, I had to patch it. Like that took so much I'm just bringing it up because it just took so much energy out of me and it was just like

that's not what we're supposed to do we're supposed to be friends and I was getting into it with this nigga like with everybody and I was like man I ain't doing that shit for you because it's like

the evil shysy shit oh he didn't give me the beat. Oh, fuck him. So now I was fuck him because that's the type of nigger it is. If you tell me

fuck Phil is fuck Phil Like if you say some shit Like that That's what type of nigga I was So like Oh he didn't give me the beat

Or he didn't give me the song Or he didn't give me the verse Like so we don't like these nigg So we don't like nobody in the industry You know what I'm saying So I was on that type of time With that nigga And on that type of time

I was with YG And it just At that point when I was looking I was like This shit is like I'm like It's getting out of hand I don't want to do this shit no more

Like I want to be friendly And I want to fuck with my homies like this shit's stupid. I didn't make up with them niggas until I, after I stopped fucking fucking fucking fucking lease on the space over to Sorrella? Or that became when you decided to do the store?

Or when did that happen? Yeah, I mean, the lease was in my name. It was in Tiger name too, but oh, you didn't care about the store. And look what I did. I built the rapport with the owner. I'm like, I love you. I fuck with you.

He loved me. I was a Jewish nigga. He really fucked with me. I told him the situation. I told him I want to move this store right here You know what I'm saying changing in our name Just being her name He didn't do no credit check no nothing he came

You know what I'm saying Canceled that lease made us to lose lease owners And that's how I went Wow period because he just wanted his money every month And so how different was that for you Because you know for a certain period of time there You're just dealing with all these dudes Who come with the issues that dudes

Who want to buy cool street wear come with And then all of a sudden you got You know fucking high school girls walking across the street from Fairfax High and copping outfits. These ain't no high school girls walking in this movie. Okay, so what was the average clientele? It's bad bitches in there for show. You know what I'm saying?

Strippers come through, bad girls regular, you know what I'm saying? Like, it'd be bad ones in there. I ain't going to lie to you. Right. And so what was that like, though? Like, looking, all of a sudden you just have such a different clientele. It was crazy. You know why because...

And most dudes have to go so out of their way to be around a bunch of hot chicks. And then you own that store and it's like you're just surrounded by it and that just becomes your normal everyday life, I guess. Yeah, it's tight. It's still tight. In the last few stories, it wasn't like regular, like packed out the game. Like, fuck no. You know what I'm saying?

It was just regular people coming through here and there and his fans coming through here and there. So we open a women's stores like girls everywhere. They coming through nonstop coming and leaving, coming. And it's just like, I wasn't used to that. I was like, this shit is crazy. Because I remember being on Melrose and, you know, it's like it's girls shit. so I'm not really like that curious about it,

but I'm seeing it and I'm seeing the girls tour thing. Whose idea was that yours? It actually was. Girls tour. I was like, that's clever. Kind of like stealing Nikki's lyrics, but that's clever. I mean, it was my, it was. That's not Nikki lyrics.

That was actually Kanye, you know what I'm saying? About, like referring to her. Yeah, it was actually Kanye. Wasn't it Drake? Who said the Girls Tour World Tour line? Why am I so specific? That was Drake. Okay, yeah.

That's odd thing. But Kanye said it before that. Oh, well, matter of fact, that wasn't Kanye. That was Drake, right. That was Drake. Sorry, Drake. That was Drake line. You drew me for a loop with that Kanye thing.

But, oh, yeah, and the Yeez's tour. So Yeez's and then Drake just so happened to say that shit. Girls tour, world's tour, whatever the case may be. So, yeah, it was a bow. It was a tile. Because you were pushing that thing for a while. Yeah. Having that out on the wall and stuff.

It's still on the wall. It's still there. It's still there. You know what I'm saying? Look in the book, man. That's one of the world, you know, it's a landmark. Nice. Yeah, they come, you know.

You didn't have anything to do with the Last King's Pokey Stop and Pokemon Go? Fuck no. They might have removed it by now. Fuck no. I don't know nothing about that shit no more so. That's understandable. Okay. And so then like that sort of marks like a new area of your life where you're just working

on all that stuff and you're sort of deciding that you're going to, well, you decided you were going to sort of fall back on a lot of the clout shit that you had maybe been involved with before. Yeah. I fell all the way back on that shit. But then they come in plenty of time, like, where I miss, like, certain things about, you know, just being around or being in those, like, Hollywood parties and shit sometime. Like, I started missing that.

And then I'm just like, damn, I'm around my girl all the time. I kind of let her run the thing and do the thing, even though I front the money. So I feel like, you know, I don't want to step on her toe. So I was like, what the fuck? It started making me fun to feel bad. Like, what do I got on my own? now like do I have anything on my own now even though that is mine but it's just like damn I got to rebuild myself all the way over again and that's why you start rapping no I started rapping and then I start

doing a you know my own clothing line right and then now I'm here you feel me where I think I really fit but okay in terms of doing the store and doing a clone line where your girl and everything like how stressful does that get how complicated can it get because there's probably a lot of people out there imagining that if they had to do a business full time with their girl, that it would just not be a smooth process. I'm with my girl every day. We ride together, ride home together, we eat together, we go to sleep together, and that shit is the most stressful process. Really? On this planet, you know what I'm saying? We'd be cool, but if we have a fight argument, she might

try to rip my head off, or you know what I'm saying? I ain't going to say what I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, we do it but it might get crazy in there but all in all I love her to death man that's my best friend right so it doesn't get that crazy because yeah ever since me and my girl started the plug talk thing together it is weird because sometimes I'll get home and fucking ate it at night and it's just like oh there's like an hour of shit that we have to sit on our fucking computers and work on right now and talk about stuff it's not it's probably not anywhere near as labor intensive as running the store together but definitely like you know like when you're in relationship with somebody and you don't live together, you don't have kids together, you just

have the option of being around each other and it's pretty fucking easy to make that work in comparison. But then when you are in business together slash live together, slash have kids together, it's like you just don't really have the option of taking time apart from each other even for a day or a good chunk of the day, right? We really don't, especially during that COVID shit. And then everybody quit. And then like literally everybody's like, we're gone. And then we still had the run the fucking business and it was just me and her you know what I'm saying

for a minute like we had to ship the shit ship packages she had to make stickers we folding shit doing all type of shit backstock and shit going to pick up fucking inventory way down town the Asian niggas scared they locked up

behind two gates we go in here and the fucking trash jumpyard going to get fucking clothes and then sell it I'm like what the what the fuckers the life become But that shit right there Like that shit right there Just like it made us closer man

Like it really brought us together But you were able to hold it together Even during the pandemic Because like I imagine you guys selling A very large percentage of your shit Through the retail store right But did you be Were you able to shift towards like mostly doing

Online sales? Online was going great Online was doing fucking great I couldn't believe it like Everybody was at home board I guess you know That shit But after like right after COVID

and then we were supposed to open and the riots happened. Then that shit happened and then right after that. Very good in-depth discussion of that on the BBC interview. Yeah, for real. This is a black-owned story.

I don't give a fuck. Yeah, I'm like, what the fuck? I was laughing hard. Listen to that earlier. No, for real. I'm like, bro, this is black-old. That nigga like, I don't give a fuck. And he was black.

I'm like, this shit is crazy. I'm like, this ain't for George Floyd. This shit ain't for no motherfucking George Floyd. These thing is trying to rob. some shit. You know what I'm saying? That shit was crazy. I was fucking laughing my ass off. I was to that earlier. Man, shout out to PPP, though. Because that shit during that time, that had my store nigga going crazy.

You know what I'm saying? See, my store fucking shuts down at the, like, we already had, like, the lease ended in February. And I needed to get out of the store because I had, like, a business arrangement. I didn't want to be in. I was like, we got to close the store down for, like six months before we can open another store anyway. We shut down in February. We moved in I'm like, all right, cool. We're just going to focus on doing interviews. We're going to take this time, and then we'll do another store. Nope.

Like, fucking, the whole world shuts down, like, a couple weeks after we shut down. But also, you know, like my friend Brooklyn, Dom from Brooklyn Project, told me, like, this is the greatest time I've ever owned a store. Like, we're selling more shit than we ever sold before in my life. We were a bike shop. Every bike shop I talked to was, like, we're selling more bikes right now than we ever saw before. I'm like, on one hand, I'm glad that I wasn't there for the ride. And I'm glad that we, like, didn't have to do the multiple months of, like, just paying rent and not being able to do shit.

But also, I'm like, damn, it did end up working out pretty all right for a bunch of people. Yeah, because if you can hang in there, it was going great. We was having good days. Yeah. Good days. You know what I'm saying? Every day. And now we want to open a store and all the fucking good stores are taken on Fairfax.

Because they thought it was going to still be the same. Everybody heard about that wave. Try to get in there. and the way you start declining. You know what I'm saying? So it's ups and downs with Merros especially. Yeah, that's facts. Okay, and so then at one point, AD just hits you up.

Like, what was your friendship actually like before you guys started doing the podcast together? You weren't around each other that much, were you? No. Well, I mean, and pun hit me up. Okay. Pun hit me up. AD takes credit for it, but pun was actually wondering you up?

Pun hit me up, but me and AD are homies like, But we didn't, you know, we wasn't hanging. Like, I'm more closer to pun than AD. But, you know, whoever's close to pun than shit. You're my homie. I'm just that type of nigga. Like, whatever. Like, oh, yep.

Big fan of pun. You're my brother. Are you my brother too, nigga? Let's go. Like, yeah, I love pun. But yeah, pun hit me up. He was like, well, shit. Niggin, you want to do this show, nigga?

I think, you know, you had an energy make this shit boom. Right. And I'm like, what show? The shit, A.D.? Oh, okay, cool. No jumper shit. All right, I'm going to fuck with it. And had you really thought about like being an on-camera personality because you are doing the family vlogs and shit, right?

Yeah. That the closest you had done to being like a personality or influencer or whatever? Yeah, because I started, yeah, we start doing the family vlogs because we, you know, we've seen these motherfuckers down the street from us. Trying to get your Austin McBroom off. And I'm like, who the fuck is this nigga? And we went down there and it was Catherine, you know, I knew Catherine because she used to fuck with Tiger. I'm like, well, how to fuck y'all get this house? I didn't know that.

Yeah, she used to fuck with that nigga. She's being on tour with this, too. but, wow, tour busts all the whole little shit. But I'm like,

but shit. Catherine, how could you? Yeah, I'm like, how to fuck y'all get this house? And they was like,

we YouTubers and then we start looking them up. I'm like, big YouTubers. How the fuck you get this house? I'm like, yeah,

because I'm like, how to fuck you doing? Because I knew what the fuck I was doing. Right. You know what the fuck you do? I ain't seen you doing

and you're like, how the fuck y'all get this? Typical shit, the rich neighborhood. Right. But yeah. You're like, what a I'm gonna do the fucking gangster version of that but I know I didn't think I was gonna be

on like like I didn't know like I didn't know I just knew I got a good personality and I could talk to you I can talk to anybody right you I'm so like I said like I wasn't a fan of it like none of this shit like just podcast in general and shit like that I really wasn't a fan so I didn't come here nervous or wasn't like expecting anything like that I just sat down started talking you know it's funny about the whole thing with me ghosting you back of the day on Melrose which of course I don't even fucking remember because that was like that that was like that That era of Melrose was like, I would meet 100 people a day that said, I want to do an interview. So my brain, like when people said that, I was like, oh, all right, like, I'm just going to not think about this unless I fucking have a really, really good reason to.

But if you had texted me and you had told me like a little bit about the Last King's thing and all this shit, which probably wouldn't have been as good a story yet. Because the story hadn't unfolded so much at that point, you probably wouldn't have been really ready to talk about. I would have been like, oh, hell yeah. That sounds like a great fucking podcast, which is a shame because there's so many. people, bro, that I met during that era that I look back on it. And I'm like, I was just high as fuck facing backwoods, just not really able to like actually develop any friendships or relationships or whatever because of the fact that I was just being so overwhelmed with fucking attention every day. And my, my brain is just, I'm not a people person like that. Like, I just, if I feel

like I have like all these people just on my tip, I'm just my brain shuts off. And I'm just like, Yeah, all right. Like, you know, I just, I don't give a fuck. I think when you ghosted me is the day I probably said, fuck no jumper. And I just stopped. And I was like, who the fuck? No Jummer?

I ain't going back down there. Oh, I got a nice long list in my head of people that I ghosted that are very, very successful now that I'm like, damn, that's one I should have said yes to. We'll be coming on here. It's so funny. And I tell Josh, I'm like, I can't wait to tell this thing of this shit. I'm like, how do I end them on no jumber? I'm telling you never answered your phone.

The moment that I got your number here and realized I already had your number, I'm like, oh, wow. That's fucked up. Here we go. And then you come here late as fuck. You know what I'm saying? Disrespecting me. Had to get a massage, which I know is not something you probably even know where that is.

What the fuck? Get the fuck out of here. It's where they actually will manipulate your muscle and skin with their hands. Come on, dog. My nigga just got some money. You know what I'm saying? Shout out my boy. He just got rich.

Dude, the last two days, I've had, like, splitting headache and, like, crazy, stiff neck and shoulder pain. I don't know. You give it too much head, nigga. That's why. You give it too much your head, bro. Get the fuck out of here. Yeah, I got to work on my neck. Come on, dog.

You fucking too much. We're out here showing neck. Remember that? Safari? We are out here. We are out here giving neck. Niggas is like, pause. It's over before.

You know, it's funny how Safari said some gay shit and it's like media take out headlines and shit. Everybody's like, oh, there you go, those white boys saying some gay shit again. I fuck with Safari. When I first met, Safari, I thought cut was gay. I'm like, this nigga, because I thought he was a nigga, my assistant. Everybody did. I was like, this nigga gay. Damn, you were around him back then a lot? Yeah. That's hilarious. Yep, he was assistant. Yeah, he was assistant. Nick and then Nikki Blue and the niggins start like getting on stage. We like, damn, she's bringing the nigga, her assistant on stage. Yeah. Like, we was all confused.

Even the Barbes didn't know. Like, yeah, like, Mac May told us one day, like, no, that's her boyfriend. We was like, fuck, no. And then we started peeping it out. We like, damn. One of the best things, I love Safari. I've had good conversations with them and everything.

But there's a video that's like, like, 10 minutes of Safari embarrassing Nikki Minaj. Oh, my God. It is so fucking funny. I'm not even going to try to, like, imitate some of the exchanges that happened between them, but it's amazing. No, you got to do one. No, the best one is, uh, fuck.

It's like she's doing an interview and they're up in front. It's Tim Westwood and her. And then Safari's all the way in the back, which is super weird in the first place. Like, why are you sitting like eight paces behind them in the fucking interview? And then I think they're saying something about high school. And Safari's like, I liked high school. I went to three proms. And like, they're like, oh, you just, you just enjoyed the ambience.

He's like, it was cool. there were girls there some shit like he says something like that that's so awkward and she just goes that is so embarrassing I fucked up the quote

because whatever he said was fucking so weird and like just such a strange thing to say and the way that she dismisses him was just like oh my God that's just like the realest I've ever seen you be on camera

yeah she too real though she's the sickest man she's sickest female rapper ever yeah Wayne and her they both kind of seem like assholes but in a good way, I guess, in a fun way.

I only ever seen her, you know, just probably, but she's passionate. You know what I'm saying? When you passionate like that, like, you might come off as an asshole. Like, she's really the greatest. Like, she's really doing her thing. She named her kid Papa Bear, right?

That's probably his nickname, you know what I'm saying? I'm pretty sure that's on the birth certificate, right? That's probably a lot of black, you know what I'm saying? I saw it on Twitter today. Nicknamed that. Papa Bear. Papa Bear is good, man. That's a good dude right there.

Nice tight. Give your kid a rap name like at birth. Papa Bear, man. man, he's going to be a good dude. He's going to be fly, too. What are your kids' names? Zoe, Zane, Zuri, and Tiley. Okay, so you picked out like a theme there.

We're going to go with the Zuh thing. Well, first, my son, I wanted to name him Supreme, but, you know, my girl wasn't really going for it, so I sided with her, and I said, we can go with the Z thing. Okay. We're going to name him Zane, you know, get from God, and, you know, it all means something. My high school girlfriend used to always say that she had had dreams

since she was a kid, that she was going to have a child with a black man and name it onyx. And I remember being like, well, that really sucks for me, doesn't it? You was fucking with her at the time. Yeah.

I was like, you try to tell me something here? Either your dick ain't big enough a nigga, I'm going, you know what I'm saying? And I remember thinking, like, I don't know if I would really want to call my kid dad if I were you as a white woman. Like, I don't know. It doesn't sound like a great.

But I also grew up listening to Onix. Oh, you did? Oh, yeah. You fucked with it? Yeah. Yeah. They're like the hardest rappers in the world to me. And like, it's hard.

First grade, second grade. In the first grade. Yes. Because that's when Slam was like number one on the radio and shit. Dun, da, da, that shit. Yeah. That shit was hard. I miss that.

Bad, I miss that shit, too. I think I, like, heard a lyric about, like, putting a dick in a pussy or some shit from them. And I remember thinking, like, that's sex? What the fuck? I grew up on Luke. I didn't really, like, get what sex was yet, but I remember. they said something in a song that made me realize like the dick and the pussy that is that like the whole thing pop that pussy hey pop that pussy baby and imagine that being on a radio

Luke fucking two-lif crew was old school than me at that time man that shit was crazy boy dude around I walked into a random ass bar in Montreal at one or Toronto or some shit and two live crew was playing at one point like maybe 10 years ago eight years ago and just remember being like what the fuck even 10 years ago that's All this fucking. Yeah, that was all. I'm like, this could be anyone. Yeah.

Like, this audience? This could be just like a couple of random dudes, and I guarantee this audience would be going for it. What? There's no way that this fucking Toronto audience actually knew what the members of two live crew looked like at that moment. I'm like, they could just have random dudes in here

and these people would be falling for it. That's the power of good music, though. You got a hit, you don't give a fuck where you had. Who in the room? They're going to vibe. Yep. God. That's facts.

So, yeah, I don't know. You're pretty happy about doing the shit with AD on the podcast and everything. What else should we do? Like, I just was watching you on the fucking panel episode with House Phone that's not out yet. How do you feel about that? I thought it was good. You thought I did good. I think you, I think, did good.

I think he needs to let the girls talk a little bit more. Oh. He, like, will ask your girl a question and then like start asking them a question, another question after like half a sentence comes out. And I'm like, you got on just a little bit lower. energy I think is good in that. That's that Trevor shit, asking a bunch of questions over questions over fucking questions.

That's what everybody does when they start doing interviews. Because I've watched probably more bad interviews than anyone because I'll always be interviewing an underground rapper and have to go try to find another interview with them to see like a little bit of information before I start. So I'll watch some like whack-ass interview with like a thousand

views. And dudes always do that. They always will ask a fucking five-minute question where they just repeat themselves over and over and over. I think more so he was just trying to break ground on that actual moment to where he knew he was going to just go crazy because Lord gave him the fucking green light to just go crazy and he was like oh my fishing i'm fined i'm going to find something yeah and a bitch finally said something and he went crazy i'm like oh shit i'm a part of this shit it did seem like i like that he chose

something to make a big deal out of even though he called abortion of autopsy that was so fucking funny i started laughing so hard listening to listening to that even before any of you guys pointed out that was wrong because I knew what he meant right away. I'm like, an opt-time see, you got a dead body. I'm like, bro, stop this fucking stop this shit. Biddy went hard on a girl, so it's over with it. I'm like, all right.

Katana. She was cool. I like Katana. She was kind of dry at first. She did good on your Patreon. Yeah, she got her head up her ass. A little bit. A little bit.

Yeah. She do, huh? That's the followers. It's cocky, man. You know, she's probably making all that money. She's out here. Every dude on her dick. She starts hanging out with us.

None of us give a fuck at all. Yeah. Must be a little weird for her. Because we don't give a fuck. No, that's a great part about being in a relationship. Is that you just get to all the hottest girls. It's like, okay, your superpower don't work on me. Nah, I don't.

Watch out. It's not it for us. Yeah. We don't give a fuck. I know it did make her uncomfortable a little bit. Yeah. For sure. House phone, though, probably in reality.

house one would probably like chop his fucking left arm off to fucker he a wiper he's a pussy fiend he just loves ass i know your ass ain't talking fuck out of here i know your ass ain't talking dog constantly like people were asking me about this other interview that i did and and i was like they're like what stood out to you about this interview this dude micky this gambler dude and i'm like oh man it just blew my mind the way he talked about girls and pussy like this dude is the biggest pussy addict I ever fucking heard talk of my life. Everybody at the poker table

when I said that they're like, so you're saying that? I'm like, okay. Get the fuck out of here. I feel you. I feel you. I watched this interview. That she was really good.

I'm like, damn, I want to go gambling with this motherfucker. I'm like, is he really banned from these casinos? Yeah. You have to put a mask on. I don't know why, but he's, he's banned one way or another.

Hey, bro, he might get the need to laser them tattoos off. We need to go get this money. That's a good point with the, with the, the, thing in this age, it's got to be harder to keep people out of the casinos when they can just cover their

face. Right, so why would he, you know, he could just go in any casino and just win, like, what the fuck? That's what he wants people to think, I don't know. That's what he wants people to think. Maybe he's just really, really good. I've known a lot of gamblers in my life, and I've never heard anybody

claim that they could, like, consistently beat a game like Baccarat. It's impossible. It's like... Well, he's claiming it. You think he got it? What did he pull up in? I don't know I don't know It just doesn't

If it was possible If it was possible to beat these games Then the casinos wouldn't exist Yeah So it doesn't really I don't know Yeah I mean Because even when I'm in the fucking casino

And I'm starting winning a little crap table $50 they'll change the fucking person I'm like What the fuck am I really that good But they change the dealer all the time anyway Right Like what I mean But if everybody's over there trash

Like yeah I mean what the fuck Yeah I don't know But everybody wants me to expose me to expose Mickey. I'm like, I'm not in the business of exposing people. If you guys want to expose them, go right ahead. I'll watch the fucking YouTube video.

But, I mean, it's up to you expose him, though. That's all the thing. It's just like, if he's not allowed back in the casino that I can't fucking expose him. Like, are you going to, how the fuck do you expose him even if you're not the dealer? How do you expose him? But dude, he's having a big ass New Year's party and he was hitting me up, like, come to Vegas to this

party. And I'm just like, wow, like, even the idea of staying up till midnight at this point just sounds like really like something I'm just not going to do. Going to Vegas and staying out late, like, I don't really know how to stay out past midnight at this point of my life, bro. Because even you hit you hit the group chat, like, what do we do for New Year's Eve?

I'm like, I'm staying in the crib. I'm like, that's what I was thinking, but I wanted to know if there were any other options. Yeah, I'm like, no, AD, like, no, I'm having a party. I'm like, I'm not partying with ADOT. I'm not doing that. Yeah. Too much energy out of my body. I got to reserve that shit for my kids.

Yeah. Because my kid's crazy as fuck. That was even worse when AD was drinking. I would constantly be feeling like, how the fuck do you have energy to keep doing this and dumping this poison down your throat every fucking night? My boys, he quit. I thought he was invincible. I thought he was just because throughout my life, I've known dudes.

I remember there's a dude who's an ex pro BMX rider. He was probably about 49 years old. This is like maybe 10 years ago. And he would be snorting coke. all night every night drinking Jameson every fucking night and I'm just looking at him like bro like you're 20 fucking years older than me and you're just going like you're never going to die like I don't I don't understand because I'm like I'm 38 right now and I could not imagine going out drinking and doing coke tonight like I'm going to be wounded for days and days afterwards bro

yeah for real terrible I mean maybe once a month once every two months but for me it's like yes I could imagine doing it I just I couldn't imagine myself enjoying it enough to then like have my whole next day be fucked up but you know what i'd rather do a house party than go to a club i'd rather do a house party and mingle with a bunch of close friends and then other people you know friends or whatever bring in our house and we drink and have fun like that i like that shit better sounds all right yeah that's that's way more like you know the club thing thing is just is ridiculous we used to be real into it what every day used to be buying tables and shit we never bought a table he was always getting booked for clubs i'm talking about

at least five days a week when we went to a club at least five days a week and when he wasn't getting booked to a club he'll go to one oak and my body started withering down every day for five years I'm like, nigga, God damn. I mean part of it is that if you wake up at

2 p.m., then yeah, like you could go out at like 11 p.m. No, stay out. I wake up at 6 in the morning. It's not happening. Meary when I was fucking told you like, AD's being a real rapper. Yeah.

This motherfucker get off the plane, go shopping, go to the hotel, go eat, wait, then go to the club. And then after that, we got to get right back up hour or two. Nick get in, go to the airport. Boy, your body is shit. I just don't understand that, like, at this point in my life, and I used to think this was dope to be like, oh, fuck sleep. I don't need to sleep. I can just be going 22 hours a day, just whiling out. I mean, at this point of my life, I'm just honest with my life.

It's like, bro, if I get two hours sleep, I'm going to be a fucking awful version of who I am. Terrible. Terrible. Do I want to be sitting in a fucking important interview? Never mind a business meeting. Never mind whatever. Just feeling like absolute death. And your fucking head just start hurting out of nowhere.

Like you ain't fucking eight? I used to be going to meetings and just fucking having to go to the bathroom and puke and shit and just try to hold it together. What the fuck? Well, from like drinking the night before. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Yeah. Yeah. I hate motherfuckers that throw up

You know what I'm saying I don't even drink with my girl She'd throw up motherfucker You know what I'm saying We go drinking We do it shit up Oh you know what I'm saying We hop back in the car

This motherfucker throwing up Out the side of the car And she'll loud throw up motherfucker too You guys sit around smoking weed At the house together Yep right on the couch That's tight You know what I'm saying

Dude Because I've seen her I seen her like walking around Rolling a blunt In my backyard And I'm like Oh like immediately I just realized I was like, oh, they're like a lit couple.

Because my girl don't smoke. Oh, she don't smoke? No. What the fuck we're going to, you know what if we ever double date or some shit? Well, I stopped smoking too, so. Oh, you did. Almost two weeks now. Oh, so you think that's helping you.

I mean, you can be a moderate, casual smoker. See, I would like to be that. Yeah. It's just that I became like a super addictive, compulsive smoker, and that's like a big part of, like, what I was trying to get out of my system was just like the constant need to have a blunt. going at all times.

Yeah, okay, I get it. Yeah, we casual with it. We casual with it. We ain't rolling up all the time. Yeah. It's here and there. Yeah, if my girl's like Hoodrich Pablo Juan and she's just like stuffing fat woods all the time, I don't know.

Man, it might take us two, three days of smoke of paper. Paper? Jesus Christ. Yeah. Some weak ass shit right there, but I... Now, he's smoking fire. You know what I'm saying? Like, she's still smoking that shit.

I know, I've seen her going and get a fucking lighters or shit. Like, during this. interview. She cold. I mean, there are a lot of things in life that I think it's better to be high for, like from my perspective. Like, bro, if I had to drive the San Francisco right now or like, you know, any long distance, it's like, of course I want to be high during that.

Yeah. But like, I just got to the point where it's like, oh, no, I'm doing every interview high as fuck, every business meeting, every phone call, et cetera. And I'm just like, you know, at a certain point I'm like, all right. I can't be relax. Yeah, you got to relax. You can't be doing that shit high. I got to be attentive.

I got to see what's going on. Yeah, you have to. So what do you feel like you have coming in the new year? What's important for you that you want to check off? What's important to me? We just purchased our first home today. Today? Yeah, today.

Wow, congrats. Me and her together, our first home today. We've been living in that home for about three years. We just purchased it today. Oh, really, nice. So I checked that off my list. Well, actually, she checked it off. Like, look, what you got on your door.

And I'm like, damn. my dude got this shit on my door we definitely manifested it make sure it happened this year but i want to definitely grow in this podcast space uh definitely grow you know our business now and my business too my business now switch do more to youtube shit because this shit right here as far as like being content driven and so much content that you put now it just expired expire like i i just it just like i'm like i'm like i'm fucking lazy you know what i'm saying it's inspiring me to do way more content so i for as far as the youtube shit like and then you know you know jump or shit i want to do way way more content like i think yeah i think i'm i'm i'm

in that space why because you feel like it is is you like expressing yourself because i mean like financially i don't know how much of a dent it makes like if you If you're doing a crazy-ass clothing line, the YouTube check might not necessarily compare to that all the time. Like, what is it about that that makes you want to put so much time into it? Yeah, I do. I do like being in like that on-camera personality. I do like expressing myself there. I do like, you know, showing people a different side of me, you know.

And I do like sometimes getting into those deep talks, you know, letting people, you know, see how it really is from your perspective. Like, I love that type of shit. Like, you know? So, man. And having more content, you know, and, you know, gaining more fans and having people, you know, building that fan base. That's important. Like, you know. Have you had that where AD says a lot that, like, people always thought he was one thing. They all thought he was like Mr. Super Gangster or whatever. And then through being on here, he gets to show people his actual personality more. And that that's been, like, very liberating for him to, like, have people kind of know the real version of him. Yeah, on top of just being, you know, fed a silver spoon. Oh, it's...

Ro Ro, shout out Ro Ro, Doug. My nigga been bawling all this life. You ain't got... You ain't a fucking gangster thing. You ain't from cop to, no. My nigga do that. He gets so mad.

He's going to beat your ass when he comes in here. No, that's fucking funny. Oh, well, my brother, you know what I'm saying? But I forgot the fucking question. Oh, I forget. Oh, yeah, yeah. Like, do you feel like people are getting to know the real you? Or, like, more than they ever had before?

Yeah. The BBC shit did really good. Man, people are really tuned into it. Like, damn, I didn't know that. And I felt like I didn't even share a lot. I didn't even share a lot here. You know what I'm saying? I got a lot of stories to tell.

But I feel like, okay, you know, it's a, you know, point in time when I get to tell them all. Like, but, yeah. Will we be able to get views without putting a shooting Lil Wayne in the face in the title? Yeah, that shit was crazy. Yeah. He's doing a lot with that. Yeah.

I think the title, they definitely clicking on that shit. I'm doing a lot with that one. I'm like, what the fuck? I'm going to have a little way and watch that shit. He's like fucking watching the whole hour and a half. He probably like, that's trail. He's like, he's fucking bitch. He probably got his headphones in at the skate park listening.

Like, when they're going to say my name? Yeah, he crazy. That motherfucker was crazy. Y'all love him, though. He was cussing everybody out. Man, left and right. Yeah. And he earned that, I guess.

Yeah, for sure he did. I think it was a drink, though. I think it was the drink was making him mad. Oh, yeah. Yeah. There's so many things that happen with rappers where I wish that all I had to say to explain it was he was doing a shitload of opiates and it turns you into an asshole. And every rapper who does that plays the victim afterwards. And that's all you need to know to understand like 90% of rappers getting into some shit.

They do drugs. They get cranky as fuck either while they're on it or while they're getting sober or whatever. And then they act like a huge. huge asshole and then as soon as you take offense to them acting like an asshole they play the victim. Soon. That's every rapper I've ever had a conflict with it. Yeah, every rapper, not every rapper, but many, many, many. 90%.

Yeah. I say 90. Yeah. Yeah. It's up there. It's up there. Fucking lean heads. Um.

You used to drink late? A little bit, yeah. Damn, I drank lean one time with my homie low. One time? All those years being around all those dudes? You only want to try it one time. One time and I drunk this much. Oh, Jesus.

And I woke up the next day, literally. Yeah. I went over there a Wednesday and I woke up Thursday. First time I drank lean, I definitely drank too much and drank it really fast and was like had a whole day of shit to do. And then I was passed out by like 2 p.m. Brough, that shit had me knocked out. I was like, I'm never doing that shit. Yeah, it sounds good.

Even my birthday. Oh, yeah. You were supposed to go to the shirt club. You was tired. You was wearing down. I'm like, I'm tired. I can't go. I don't know why I thought that the one night.

out of the week that or the year that I was trying to stay out past midnight would be a good night for me to fucking drank some lean stupid is terrible idea stupid as well you and lena was hot she was yeah she's all geared up she had like two thousand dollars and one she was geek she wanted to go touch some ass i got the fucking babysitter you fucking sleepy go home pass out she thinks she's gonna get some dick for my birthday nope passing out baby she don't want that shit yeah oh we're about you do the no jumber show yeah T-Rail appreciate you man happy to happy as a part of the team here

thank you my dude I'm looking forward to this this year it's gonna be a good year yeah it's gonna be a real good year it's gonna be a real good year we might want to kill each other by the end of the year but if we're not wanting to kill each other by the end of year we're not doing good keep that in mind yeah audience if I say fuck Adam like really aggressively

it's really probably fuck Adam no that's probably that's a good sign for the content we hate each other think about how good the content but we just gotta take it right up to the brink of like never wanting to see each other again right there right there that's good content you just stop it right there you got to stop us though josh yeah Troll no jumper coolest podcast in the world check us out on youtube Patreon nude version of this podcast on our only fans oh yeah yeah oh that's crazy yeah i'm not nude though maybe him

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