No Jumper - The Trisha Paytas Interview

Starting point is 00:00:08 No Jumbert, coolest podcast on the world. And today I'm very, very, very excited to be here with one of the greatest internet legends, somebody who a lot of people have a lot of shit to talk about. But I personally would like to say that I've grown quite a bit of respect for you over the course of the past day, having done a bunch of research. Okay, thank you. You know, I just want to say that. I was a lot of fun watching your stuff last night.

Starting point is 00:00:30 It was a good. I love that. We watched that most recent interview that you did. Oh, yes. How did you like it? It was a bad. It was really good. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:00:37 I get nervous. I talk too much during the interviews. But you're really smart and you're really well spoken and you're really experienced and you just fucking come up with talents. And I think that people don't realize how respectable that is because you've been doing it for so long. And that was really fascinating to hear about for me at least. Yeah, you're an OG YouTuber. And I think that's like part of what makes it cool is that you, I watch that and like feel like I learned a lot from that interview and now I don't feel like as much of a sim. Because you know when you go in and do an interview and it sucks because you go to do the interview and,

Starting point is 00:01:08 They're just asking you stuff that everybody has already asked you, and it's just so boring, and you just wish the people would ask you something that you actually give a shit about? Yeah. Well, I never get interviewed. This is recent that I'm, like, trying to do podcasts now. Really? Because I used to never want to, like, get interviewed because I talk too much.

Starting point is 00:01:22 It's the only podcast I ever did prior to this year was Shane's, and I got in so much because I was, like, talking. I just talked too much on podcasts. And then they use clips and they take it out of context. I get nervous. What did you say on Shane's? It wasn't even anything bad. I think I, this was literally like seven years ago.

Starting point is 00:01:35 This was so long time ago. So it was a long time ago. So it was something so simple as like not all my videos are real. Like sometimes I fake things in videos and people got like pissed at me. And I was like that got you in trouble. Yeah. I mean that was like I said seven years ago. So I think that was the scandal.

Starting point is 00:01:47 And now we got Jake Paul and Tanna. Oh, God. I honestly wanted to ask you, that was one of my questions. Would you marry someone for the views and for the clout and for the story on YouTube? And can it be me? Yeah. I wish you want to marry my boyfriend. Should we be a throuple?

Starting point is 00:02:01 Oh my, you know, I was in a thruple. Wait. I talk about it all the time. Yeah, I like being the third in a throuple. but I don't like, like when I have a boyfriend, I don't like three sons. I like to be the third in someone else's. I don't like bringing a third. Well, you sound perfect for us, though.

Starting point is 00:02:13 Yeah. What do you like about being the third? Well, it was, it was like polyamory, so it was like we were dating. It wasn't just like hooking up. So like they were like trying to find like the third. And so we were like dating. I just liked it because it was like they have a solid relationship enough that I'm like in, I get to be involved in someone's like love.

Starting point is 00:02:30 Because I don't ever have love in my relationship. So I like to be in someone else's love. That's a feeling we get from a lot of the porn girls that we've hooked up with. is that maybe like they accept that they are too toxic and that they're not going to be in a real relationship. But for the meantime, they can at least like be a fly on the wall for ours. I don't know if it's a toxicity thing. I feel like it's like they're so deep in the game that it's like kind of hard for them to be in a real relationship.

Starting point is 00:02:50 But why are they so deep in the game? They're so deep in the game because they got no soul. Okay. Out of this theories about porn stores that I do not agree with, but that's okay. No, porn stars scare me. All right. Before we get too much deeper into this podcast, I do want to let you guys all know that we are sponsored by bluechew.com.

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Starting point is 00:04:08 So if you want to support me, if you want to support the podcast, if you want to show some love to keep these good Tricia Paitis interviews coming in, BluChu.com. Check it out. No, porn stars scare me too, to be honest. People think I would like love porn. Like porn stars seem so like they seem a little hurt. Let me just dial that back a little bit because people are going to be acting like I'm really hating when I said that they have no salt. But we do have a lot of porn star girls who we are friends with who,

Starting point is 00:04:33 basically have removed themselves from any sort of like real human contact type shit. Like we know porn girls that say they will never have kids, that they can never have a husband, etc. Like a lot of the girls who are porn girls who are married. They're like soldiers who have taken themselves and put, like when you go off to Afghanistan, like you realize that's bad for your family, but you need to sacrifice for your family, for your family or for your country in the long term. A lot of porn girls are like that.

Starting point is 00:04:58 They realize that, yeah, maybe they're not going to be able to be in a relationship ever. or at least for this time being, but it's lit. Okay. Learning things about you. Yeah. I agree. I kind of agree with that. The only porn stars I'm friends with are ones that, like, found God.

Starting point is 00:05:13 Like Chrissy Moran and stuff. I'm, like, friends with her. She was like an old school porn star, and she, like, found God, and I like those porn stars. I was like, love that because they still like to fuck, but they also love Jesus. Because you're a Jesus freak, right? I do. I do. I do.

Starting point is 00:05:22 I do. I love. Yeah. I love it. I am going to church tonight at 5 o'clock. Are you really? Yeah. You go to a late church so that you don't have to wake up early?

Starting point is 00:05:31 I go to late church because they're single guys there. Is it really? Yeah. Are they like the kind of guys that might want to date church or pay this or not? Bill Murray goes to my church. Bill Murray. That's the kind of guy that you're going to date. That's the kind of guy I want to date.

Starting point is 00:05:43 Really? What is your actual outlook on religion though? Like are you, do you like Jesus has a place in your heart? Do you believe that you're going to go to a heaven or a hell? Like how do you, do you think about this a lot on the day-to-day basis? Yeah, I do. I'm always, I always praying. I have a little prayer journal in my book.

Starting point is 00:06:00 I always pray. I do believe it. I'm not, like, so, like, I am Catholic, but I'm not so, like, obviously, I don't follow the rules. Like, you're not supposed to have sex before marriage and stuff. So obviously, I don't follow all the rules of religion. But I like structure. I like, I just like something to, like, guide me.

Starting point is 00:06:12 Because otherwise, what's the point of life, right? Like, I always think if there's no God, like, then we should just all kill each other, you know, we should just all, like, go crazy. You don't think you can have morality without God? No. I think that. I don't buy that personally. I don't think you need God.

Starting point is 00:06:24 I feel like, very, very, very moral, like, almost too moral sometimes. he's like, you know, you could lie sometimes. I'm like... I have to tell her, like, when she has to lie about shit. And I follow all the rules. But I, I'm an atheist. Like, I downloaded that bird app so that I could fucking use one of those scooters.

Starting point is 00:06:39 And then it said that you need a helmet. And so I deleted the app. The bird app. The bird app radicalized you. I mean... It's over. It's over. The bird app.

Starting point is 00:06:48 The bird app's kind of... That's like the devil itself. The bird app. I really hate seeing them everywhere. You saw your car. Yeah. Yeah. And I smashed my ankle all getting off.

Starting point is 00:06:55 And I put my bird into a sidewalk. Yeah, yeah, they're literally the devil. I find it interesting. I love talking to atheists. I'm not like, I actually dated an atheist, so I'm not like, and obviously my last one was like Jewish. I date a lot of like Jewish guys, but I'm always ever interested. I don't know.

Starting point is 00:07:08 For me, I just love God, but I get it. I get it. I don't ever like, be like, wow, why don't you believe it? I don't like to have debates because I'm kind of like believe whatever you want to believe. Yeah. Honestly, like as someone who spent a lot of time in my life reading about atheism and religion and stuff, I still kind of don't really like to have the debates about it because I feel like everybody sounds stupid having that conversation myself included

Starting point is 00:07:26 because it's just not really like, ah. You're never going to meet in the middle. You know you're just both going to be on opposing sides the whole time. Somebody's always going to bring up some scroll from 800,000 years ago that I don't know about. And be like, well, what about this scroll? I'm like, all right. In this moment, I've sort of realized how stupid what we're talking about is and how much I don't care. There's no, there's no facts either.

Starting point is 00:07:48 Like, it's just fake base. So I can just be like, you have to have faith. And like, who knows who's right? You know what I mean? At the end of the day, I just like to believe just in case. You know what I mean? And if I'm wrong, then, oh, well, I'll just rot in, like, earth forever, you know, I don't know. So I just like to that.

Starting point is 00:07:59 I wish I could believe. I feel like it's kind of cool. I feel like I'd be a lot happier as a person if I could just blindly believe. That's kind of how I am. I wouldn't say, blindly believe. But I've been through enough where I feel like I've been experiencing miracles. So that's why I'm like, okay, I think there's something because I feel like I should have been dead like three times over.

Starting point is 00:08:14 But I kind of feel like that about a lot of things. Like, we were having this conversation last night that there's a lot of girls that we know who literally like the whole reason that they're alive and that they get up in the morning is so that they can like buy their next like $10,000 pocket book. And that's just like, you know, if you don't have that built in your head, like even with me, I know a lot of guys who like all they want in life is to just own a bunch of cool cars. And I just don't get it because I'm not a car guy. And it's like, I kind of wish I had that so I could like, you know, those guys will forever be just yearning for more and better cars. I don't have that.

Starting point is 00:08:47 You want like a concrete motivator? That's your concrete motivator. Yeah. I literally, I have like three cars and there's no point I'm one person. So I just. I don't have. I think I just, yeah, I think I just always want more. Like you said, though, like, it's bad because then you just constantly. I'm like, what else can I get? What's the next thing I can, you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, it's bad.

Starting point is 00:09:02 That is weird, right? Yeah. I feel like I need, I need, like. We should start liking material possessions, babe. Well, that's exactly it. You need more imaginary constructs. I've worn this outfit on Instagram like five times and I was thinking like the average Instagram girl would be like this is a no-no.

Starting point is 00:09:17 And I'm like, I really don't fucking care. That's cute though. That's cute for a girl. That's like really appealing for a girl because I'm very much like, I can't wear the same after right. But I think it's cute and grown. I love it. I'm fascinated.

Starting point is 00:09:25 I'm like, do you have like a glam person come in your house every day at 8 a.m and just getting you ready for it to go to McDonald's. I mean, not to go to McDonald's, but like. I mean, that's what you do though. I saw you in the parking lot eating in McDonald's. True. And it's so cool. I was like, she looks so hot, just standing in McDonald's Park.

Starting point is 00:09:40 I usually do glam. Like if I have like a paid post I got to do from Instagram or like YouTube. And then, but there's, like, my second channel has me like ugly. Like it's either there's no in between. I'm either like a homeless or I look like a porn star. Like the old school porn stars, the classic porn star is. I like the classic porn star look. We watched like a six-minute video of you last night where...

Starting point is 00:09:55 Nine minutes. It was you shoveling Fetuccini Alfredo down your throat. For like eight minutes and 30 seconds of the video and then speaking for 30 seconds. The title was why I clicked it was because I was interested in this little riff that you had with the Nacado avocado guy or whatever. I watched this video of you just shoveling this food down your throat. And then finally at the end you're just kind of like, hey, like I feel bad. Sorry. Because I mean, I don't know.

Starting point is 00:10:19 People like to like the eating. They love that. I don't know. You know, YouTube is not my main thing anymore. I don't know what I'm doing on there. I'm just literally... What's your main thing right now? Patreon, my Trishyland site. Okay. Yeah, my private snap. Like, you know, kind of just private snap videos, that kind of stuff. So you don't, like, YouTube isn't your primary thing in the sense that it doesn't occupy that you're just not making any money off of it? Not money. There's like no money. I mean, kind of pays some bills, but...

Starting point is 00:10:43 Really? Yeah, I could never live off of YouTube. Probably you probably get the same issue. There's like, your hot girl boobs. Do you make jack shit? If you put out of video like it's like it's like... a million views, how much money you're making off it? Like, I mean, I get like 20 million views a month and I barely make money to pay bills. On YouTube, really? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:10:59 Damn, see, I say stuff like that too, but then in reality it is like a decent amount of money, but it's just not that much for 20 million views. Yeah, I think that's what it is. And also, I think also just like, if I tone it down, I think I'd be totally fine off YouTube. But me, I just like to, again, we talk about spending money. I spend like $100,000 on a music video and I'm like, probably shouldn't do that. That's how much that video was?

Starting point is 00:11:16 That video was so crazy. Which one? The one with you dancing around and universal and stuff? Quentin Tarentino. Oh, Quentin Tarantino. That was about $150,000, yeah. Why? Did you spend that much other?

Starting point is 00:11:25 That's so extra. I know. I have nothing else to spend money on. What does a $70,000 vacation look like? I want to know because I have no idea. Forra. Have you guys been? It's expensive.

Starting point is 00:11:35 It's beautiful. Yeah. Like if you stay at a four seasons for a good amount of time and then you do all the activities and the dinners. 70 grand. Yes. And then first class. All that stuff is.

Starting point is 00:11:43 In a week? I think we're there like eight days. Yeah. See, we don't live like we got first class. Mine. We only flung first class together one time. One time, one leg of the way. Because there was an upgrade that was a little like...

Starting point is 00:11:54 She always wants to do it. She's bleeding me dry. Yeah, right. She wears the same thing about times. You had a good one. I moved us so that I didn't have to pay the movers extra, okay? Yeah, but we still had movers. You just moved like the socks and shit.

Starting point is 00:12:09 Because I can't carry a bed by myself. I'm fucking sorry. Maybe you should get in the gym. Maybe you should become a handyman. That's really, that's just not my style. I know. I love that, though. I love that about you guys.

Starting point is 00:12:18 I wish I could be like the last boy. my data was very cheap and I wish I could be that cheap in life. I wish I could be like just someone who like doesn't like spend money but I love it and I love like paying people money. I love like giving money to people like it's like a fun like rush I love it. Man that's crazy. Are you Jewish? No but I think I got a little bit of that man and I grew up with no money too so I was like you know I think that's what is for me too it's like this money is very new for me and I'm still very familiar with what it was like to go to the gas station and have to check my bank statement to make sure I can get gas. Oh for sure. So like I can't if I buy a bag I like keep it.

Starting point is 00:12:50 in the box for a week. I'm like, should you, should you take it back? Oh. Do we need this? That's cute. That's a good. That's a year. Hopefully in like a couple years I'll just be like, I'm gonna go do a YouTube video where I buy my boyfriend a hundred thousand dollar Gucci outfit and that's cute. If you spend 10 grand on Gucci for me, I would literally just be like, nope, turn the camera off. We got to talk about, nope, this is stupid. I don't want you doing this. Oh, that's the worst though when you like buy someone a gift and then they're like, because that's like I had that happen where I like buy someone something and like it's too much, take it back. I'm like, what is the other? That's happening. Yeah, my last boyfriend.

Starting point is 00:13:20 Really? Jameson was like that? Yeah. I like that, though. Were you trying to just keep him around at that point? No, it was embarrassing because I just spent $10K on David's outfit. I got Hamaguchi outfit for $10,000. And then I got Jason a present as well. And he was like, take it back.

Starting point is 00:13:34 I'm not going to wear it. I was like, I was so he has to understand that it makes you really happy to do it. So like he should just let you be happy. Yeah, because we were matching. That was like a great thing. I like to match with him. So I'd always buy matching Gucci shoes to mine. And then he's like, take it back.

Starting point is 00:13:45 It's too expensive. And I was like, I was like devastated. I was like, well, I tried to do something really nice for you. I'm that stereotypical guy who it's like impossible to buy me anything because I don't really want anything. And I feel like that's kind of the problem is that whenever people buy me stuff, it's just naturally, they're just going to be let down by the fact that I'm probably never going to use it or wear it or how. Getting you gets is getting harder and harder every year. Because it's just, I don't want anything, man.

Starting point is 00:14:06 I was getting tickets to like tickets to Joe Rogan or take him to go see some podcaster or whatever that you like, I bought you tickets to Jordan Peterson. These are the only things I can think about. I tried to get him tickets. He didn't want it. The only thing he accepted was a laptop. Because he needed a laptop. Sell it.

Starting point is 00:14:22 He still has it. I was like he returned everything I bought for him except the laptop in our breakup. And I was like, oh, okay. I'll take that MacBook back. You know what I find so interesting about you is that you've just been around for so many different stages and phases in your career and being a YouTuber. And like it's kind of weird that people try to just treat you now, right? Like you're like this like outcast from the vlog squad all of a sudden.

Starting point is 00:14:42 It's like, bitch, I've been doing this for like 10 plus years. Yeah. The vlog squad was in elementary school. This is just this season. Yeah, exactly. I go through, I've been through like groups and friend groups and stuff before, and I'm like, I've been through all this. So once the vlog squad is like dissipated, I'll still be around.

Starting point is 00:14:56 You know what I mean? So it's like, it's the current scandal and I'm going to ride with it because people are like loving them for now. So I was like, okay, I'll just keep going with it because people are so fascinated by it. So I was like, but it's weird with young people too, and this is absolutely nothing against them because I think their videos are great and everything.

Starting point is 00:15:09 But it's like you see this happen so many times and you see someone just spike in and going up, up, up. and you just kind of know that that can't continue forever. We were all having this conversation about Jake Paul like a year or two ago, you know? Yeah, and look, and he's, I mean, he's doing well. I mean, he's doing his own. But it's like, but look at his shit, you have to keep constantly changing up what you're doing because realistically, if you just keep the same sort of format forever, it can be tough.

Starting point is 00:15:33 Although, I mean, you look at somebody like Joe Rogan, it's like, you know, he's basically just been doing the exact same formula for all these years. But, I mean, there's a lot of depth to his stuff. Like, if you are sort of relying on any kind of gimmick, it's like that. tends to wear off over time, right? Well, his audience is, like, older, too. Like, David is very young. So young kids kind of, like, the Jake Paul thing.

Starting point is 00:15:51 Yeah. So often. Young kids move on so fast. It's insane. And they're, like, kid kids. Like, when you go to their, like, shows, they're, like, young kids. I bought a stick to one.

Starting point is 00:15:59 We went. You went? We were the people. It was. It was all young girls for the most part, huh? Yeah. And I, I like watching the blogs, but I was like, oh, wait,

Starting point is 00:16:08 I didn't want to see Scotty Sire saying, like, that's why I'm here. But, like, I realized after he went, like, oh, wow, this is like really for young kids. It's for young kids. Yeah, because they would bring out the other boys that didn't even do anything and they just sat on a couch, you know. I think I watched David's vlogs because of the Armenian family, honestly, because I'm Armenian and I like, oh, yeah, those are my people.

Starting point is 00:16:24 I think that's why he keeps them in the vlogs. It's hilarious. I mean, that, give me your perspective on this because I was kind of fascinated by the whole time that I was watching his vlogs and stuff because it feels like his blogs are what you might end up with if you really decided that you wanted to just focus everything you had on making a good, making good vlogs, which a lot of us, like, we all make YouTube content, but it's like,

Starting point is 00:16:46 you know, you do one fucking nine minute thing with no cuts, and it's like, that's your content. It's like, you could have made that video way more. You could have put weeks into a blog, you know? Most people choose not to do it. And number one reason is because there's not really that much of a reward. Like, if you make a video, like a really great vlog

Starting point is 00:17:01 because a couple million views, it doesn't matter. Yeah. It's no real win, right? There's not, and even David doesn't make money. He talks about it all the time. He doesn't make any money off his videos. I mean, obviously, makes it off merch and stuff. but videos he makes no money because he uses that song and he refuses to like get rid of that song

Starting point is 00:17:13 that you do do do that mika and I remember that's a good thing Oh really? That's so insane And it's also like yeah just like the cussing the vinyl Like all of it He just doesn't make anything so I think I don't know

Starting point is 00:17:22 I don't know why he does it But he'll very soon he's gonna depart I see it now because he hired a publicist To like start doing his own thing Very soon I saw it happen with Shane and his friend group too They like all kind of dissipated As soon as Shane started getting big

Starting point is 00:17:33 You know what I mean Not that he dropped them But like people just stop caring Because they start being your own person It's hard to be in that kind of atmosphere because without David, a lot of them wouldn't get views. That's just fair. So you've only ever relied on yourself.

Starting point is 00:17:43 So your content is solid. Yeah. Like I just need Betochnie and my camera. Even when I was in that group, I never filmed with him or, you know, I never had him on my channel and I didn't care that much. But did that help you grow a lot just by being around them? No, it didn't matter? No, I was getting the same views then as I do now, not at all.

Starting point is 00:17:58 Like it wasn't, no, I was like, it was like, it was weird. Even like having like, when he was with Liza, I was like had Liza on a video and it didn't do any better than my regular videos. Even that's because your fan base is just this like old school batch of just angry, bitter women who are just mad at the world and you are just their perfect vessel for how they feel deep down inside, kind of right? Well, I wouldn't say they're angry. I would just say women in general kind of feel what I've gone through.

Starting point is 00:18:21 So I feel like they're kind of just, it's a lot of like young hot girls that come up to me. I swear to goodness, I get like the prettiest people come up to me and I was just like, oh my God, do you watch my videos? Because I feel like I'm such a mess and they're like, forge. I feel like, at least I watch your videos and I'm like, wow, I wish I could be as confident as you because you, I know you like have insecurities. We all have insecurities. and there's things that you're not confident about,

Starting point is 00:18:39 but you show so much of yourself that girls couldn't dare to show online. And I think that, you know, and you made a name for yourself just being yourself. So I think that's like, like with Tanda, I feel the same way. I'm like, oh, I admire her because there's nothing really that special about her. She just made herself special.

Starting point is 00:18:58 And you, too, you made yourself special. Yeah, I say that all the time. YouTube is a good home for messy women. It is. I was taught. One time we were texting or Deanna. about being depressed in emo and I was like you know I cry on my kitchen floor a lot too I just don't film it that was sweet that she was saying that last time when we were watching your stuff

Starting point is 00:19:16 she was like you know man like I got to make more videos or like because that's the truth right is that your fans do appreciate and kind of gravitated towards it when you're just laying it all out there they like when you're real they like when you're raw you know but it's funny because I can film myself you know fake orgasming on my Snapchat but making a video that it gets so many noises in my head like this isn't good enough don't put this out this isn't good content, you know, the lighting wasn't good, and I won't put it out, but then you're like sitting in the dark, just slurping. On a potato. It was on my MacBook, too. I was just like, just like filming it on my MacBook. Okay, no wonder. It was grainy. Yeah. What is that?

Starting point is 00:19:48 And the lighting is really good. The lighting and the audio are really good. Yeah, that's the one thing. Hey, I got a Yeti microphone now. Thank you very much. I update. No, I know. He was like, he was like, baby, we should get that microphone. I was like, five of them. I just never film anything because I'm a loser. I knew that microphone was good because I was starting to get kind of disgusted by the cell. That's why they like about it. Yeah. But you, but you get a lot of the ASMR type fans who are just straight up like turned on by the, on on Patreon, I do a lot of splashing, which is the putting your head into food. Like putting your face in a pizza or cakes or candy.

Starting point is 00:20:17 Wait, so you get oil all over your face from the pizza and stuff? Every day. I probably make like two videos a day of splashing. And how much do you get paid for that? A lot. Really? Yeah. What other foods have you splashed?

Starting point is 00:20:29 I'm going to try this. I'm going to go put my ass in some food. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's really popular. Like birthday cakes are popular. Yeah. It's like he's going to Ralph's and get a 1099 giant cake and just sit in it.

Starting point is 00:20:40 Actually, yeah. I put one on my YouTube channel just to see like what the overall consensus would be. And people thought it was weird. Like Keemstar did a freaking report on it. Of course he did. Of course, Kempstor did. Do we like him here or do we need? I love Kempstor.

Starting point is 00:20:52 Talk to me about Kempstor. Let's not. What was that like? No. No. Never. You did date. I got my story wrong.

Starting point is 00:20:58 He's a bully. He picks on people. Let's start a rumor. Okay, but, okay, let me tell you what I like about Kempstar before we talk about why you hate Kemstar is. Keemstar I like because you cannot shame Keemstar he knows what he's doing he's got this show anybody else would be like

Starting point is 00:21:13 Keem you're 59 years old you don't need to be talking about 12 year old girls anymore you don't need to be talking about call a duty gameplay and he's or beef or whatever he's no I'm covering this this is what I am fuck you you basically like Keemstar because you know that's going to be you in 20 years barely he's 59 right now I'm talking about all these rapids

Starting point is 00:21:32 I know but you're only 35 he's not 59 I know he's not I know he's not 59. But you're cool. He's like a joke. You know what I mean? No. No. No.

Starting point is 00:21:40 Keem's not? I mean, he lives at Buffalo, but he's still pretty cool. Exactly. That should tell you all right there. It's like, I mean,

Starting point is 00:21:47 that is the weird part about him is just that he's like talking about parties in L.A. But then he's not actually like near any of them. I've met him at the party in L.A. Oh, no. I've been a party too,

Starting point is 00:21:57 but like, you know, he's just, he's like away from everything. So it's like he gets to like talk about. He comes through once a while, but he's not actually like he doesn't get to see Fusi crying on the side of the street. Right.

Starting point is 00:22:07 He's Fusie alone. Although he was around for the whole Fusi thing. So talk to me about Keemstar. Well, actually, you know what? I shouldn't even say. I hate him recently because I'm like he's just, he's a bad troll. Like, I know he's trolling. I get it.

Starting point is 00:22:17 That's why I troll him back on Twitter. But he's bad and he sucks at it. So it's like offensive to me as like another trolling person on the internet. I'm like at least like do something like worthwhile. Like don't tweet me something bullshit. You know what I mean? Like he tweets me like stupid shit. Like I'll like post like something from like my Patreon or something.

Starting point is 00:22:30 And I can't even think of an example right now, but he's not good at trolling. He's just like, he thinks, and the other thing is, is he trolls me by thinking I'm serious. And then I'm like, okay, you ruin the troll. Like, he's just bad. You kill the joke. He killed the joke.

Starting point is 00:22:42 That's what it is. Do you go get a really hard time for posting the nudity on Twitter now? Like, really? Yeah. You're girlfriends? Or is it just like people being mean about, like, the fact that you're naked? You know what?

Starting point is 00:22:52 I would say it's actually not even my girlfriend's because a lot of girl people are on there. I'm sure you get that a lot. Like a lot of girls watch me. I think it's more actually people in real life are confused. People are more confused. They're like, Tricia, like, you do music. You do YouTube.

Starting point is 00:23:03 Like, why are you doing this? Yeah, people can't like stomach it. Yeah. Oh, especially on Twitter, people are like, I don't want to see this on much. And I'm always like, fully nude. Do not watch if you don't want this. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:23:15 But it's a weird positioning room because you do have like a lot of young-ass fans too. So people are always going to put it on you. Like, oh, you're putting this kind of content out there for your young. What is your demographic? How much girls? How many guys? Yeah, top girls.

Starting point is 00:23:25 It's like 80% girls. And I would say 18 to like 24 is the demographic. I'm like 80% guys. 20% girls, but like 90% of guys. Wait, you're what percentage girls? 80. That's crazy. That's what I would love to have.

Starting point is 00:23:37 But I'm not, I don't, not, and then I would love to. That's why I was like, I would love to clap with you, but you're a, you like, you like touch yourself, you're eating girls out. Like, you know what I mean? But I used to only literally show up my old boobs before I got them done in the bath. I would literally take a couple photos because people wanted me to have a private Snapchat so bad that I made one, but I was way too scared to make the content and eventually I was doing fucking orgies, but.

Starting point is 00:23:59 Yeah. That is like I think that's probably why you have more like mine are still I like I like I love it by the way like I wish I could do what you're doing because like that's what I do I do in my private time. I'm always like, oh, let me just, like, master me and get off. But I can never film it.

Starting point is 00:24:10 But, like, I think what I do, I'm very, like, I think of it, like, Pamela Anderson. Like, when I was a little kid, I loved watching her on Howard Stern. And she would, like, or Jenna Jameson was, like,

Starting point is 00:24:16 naked on Howard Stern or whatever. And it's like, I love that. That's different because she's a porn star. But Pam was, like, mainstream TV, but she also was, like, naked on Playboy. So that's kind of how I, like, I try and, like,

Starting point is 00:24:24 envision it in my head. Because I have a lot of girls. on my, because Patreon, I have videos, podcasts. I have everything on there. So there's a lot of girls on there. So it's not, there's a lot of guys on the private Snapchat, but mostly, mostly girls on the Patreon. Damn.

Starting point is 00:24:36 So you have a Patreon and a private snap. Well, the private snap you get through my Patreon, yeah. Okay. But you can, like, Patreon has a feed so they can permanently view these videos that you upload. Is that you're saying? Not on the Snapchat, but yeah. On the Patreon, they can.

Starting point is 00:24:50 Yeah, they can. Girls delete it, but I keep mine up all the time. And Patreon hasn't decided to make like a hard crackdown on chicks doing this? No, they're open to it. They actually say if you have nudity, it's fine. They flag your thing so that people can't search for you. Only fans, I know you can, like, masturbate. But as long as you don't touch yourself on Patreon, everything else.

Starting point is 00:25:05 So I don't even touch myself. I don't even touch my boobs or anything. That's so cool. When you see a girl has the only fans, you're just like, whoa. She has an only fan. It's just basically being seen this privatized content now. So you can have an only fans and have no nudity. It's just.

Starting point is 00:25:18 Oh, really? Oh, I thought it was just sex. We met this girl here. And then somebody was like, she has an only fans. And we were all like, whoa, that girl has only fans. All these shit. Somebody actually went and I'm not gonna say who somebody fucking paid for it and they were like dude It's just like five pictures of her butt. It's nothing

Starting point is 00:25:34 So we got all geeked tough. You could hustle people on there you're like text them photos, but they can only open them by paying So they don't know what it is they have to read the caption So a lot of girls will make money through the messages that's a lot of maintenance for me. I don't do that But I just have the private Snapchat thing but that it's like you don't it doesn't have to be nudity You can kind of just hustle people that's so crazy that there's just like a limit limitless supply of men out there with money to spend just blowing it just on looking at chicks online some people get off on spending the money yeah like you know what I mean like I found that with when I like escorted I remember guys like got off paying because I was like why do you have to pay and they're

Starting point is 00:26:11 like I don't like I like I like it's like it's very degrading to for them to do to a woman like I remember like guys they escrow before they were like I just love that I can just pay you like fuck me and then you have to leave or I can say whatever I want to you yeah I've never done it but I could see that Yeah. When I was younger, it was hot. I don't think I was like, because now I'm old and like I just won't love. But when I was younger, I loved it. I loved like guys just like doing the crazy shit. Let's talk about the escorting.

Starting point is 00:26:32 You haven't done that a long last time? Yeah, I haven't done that since I was like 25. You couldn't imagine yourself ever doing it again? I love the idea of it. But again, I'm like so scared these days. I used to be like such a hoe. I would like sleep with like three guys a day. But like I'm scared of STD.

Starting point is 00:26:45 So I think that's the main thing. Really? Why are you so scared of SDD? Because you got burnt before? Yeah. Well, a guy I escorted for like he told me he has HIV positive. And I was like, oh. And you didn't get it.

Starting point is 00:26:55 But you were scared that you might? Yeah, well, this was years after. So I don't know. I don't know. But I was after that because I remember my mom called me and she was like, oh my God. And I was like, I know. So I got tested and I got tested over and over and over. And I was just like never again.

Starting point is 00:27:07 And even since then I've been like slowing down on the hole. Was it Charlie Sheen? No. Everyone thinks that. We kind of SEDs together. Yeah, I've gone gone and twice once because you fucking whatever. But anyway, it was once because, okay. Did you not wear a condom or something?

Starting point is 00:27:21 No, he just like didn't vet the girl and like we were drawing. hanging out with a girl and we were so fucked up that I just like initiated us all hooking up and she was like later she was like yo like you should have like really like ran that by me before because I didn't want to hook up with that girl but she just went along with it because she was just like oh like whatever

Starting point is 00:27:37 but then that was the girl that gave us gonorrhea. Oh gonorrhea is not bad like Gondria and Chlamydia guys it's not that big of a deal. It's not that big of a deal. I got chlamydia twice and that's why I'm like infertile though because like my tubes got like blocked yeah like if you have chlamydia like damages your like tubes so like I got something shot through me to see if I could have

Starting point is 00:27:53 babies and it's like blocked because like if you have it twice you're infertile. I mean, just kidding. Don't get STDs. Yeah, the chlamydia is bad for girls. I mean, guys, it doesn't matter. Oh my God. That's so crazy. I feel like a lot of girls that we know in porn get all the SDDs all the time.

Starting point is 00:28:07 They get pregnant because there's a girl that used to do porn that's on YouTube and she had troubles getting pregnant. She had to do IVF. Want Shannon? Yeah. We just met her over the weekend. Yeah. She says she's going to do the podcast soon.

Starting point is 00:28:17 Yeah. She's cool. She's sweet. I don't know where. She had a baby though, so that's good. Don't do porn unless you have a baby. A super strong immune system that could stand up to all the stuff that's about to be thrown your way is what I would say Like if you get if you get colds too easily you probably shouldn't do

Starting point is 00:28:32 Adult film I think what happens all the girls is right when they get in and they start shooting like five six scenes a week They start getting all the things that could go bad with their vagina and then they have to build the tolerance to it They'll be out for such a long time. That's what I keep hearing but I'm so glad I don't have to deal with that I've always been the kind of person I don't get sick much so I feel like that's why I didn't didn't get an SCD until I started dating you. You used to tell me when we started dating that he was immune to STD. So I'm like, I can't get one. I swear to God, I tried.

Starting point is 00:28:59 I didn't get one for so long until I started hanging with you. Wait, really? Oh, because you guys do the three. That's the only thing that scares me about threesome soon now because that's how I got my chlamydia. I'm like, oh, because like we were in a polyamory like couple, which we weren't supposed to like have sex outside of the thruffle.

Starting point is 00:29:12 But I guess they were. And so that's like, oh, my God. So that kind of scares me. Yeah. Because I'm, you know, I literally can't get pregnant. So I'm like, just come inside me. doesn't matter. And then I realized they were like doing this with other people. And I was like, oh, yeah, that's probably kind of gross.

Starting point is 00:29:21 But so I'm like weird about it now. Which I don't shame it. Like, I wish I still could, like, just have sex with everybody. But I get so, so scared now. Really? So what's, I bet the video we were watching of you, you're like, I'm about to go have casual sex. Yeah. I have someone. No, it's not random.

Starting point is 00:29:34 No, you were like, oh, this is just like, I shouldn't do this. It's just random casual sex, but he's so hot. That guy was random. But he's like, yeah. That guy was random, but I knew who he was. Well. How'd you hooked up with him before? No, but I knew him.

Starting point is 00:29:49 Like, I'm attracted to like celebrities. Like, not like that girl we were talking about earlier. But like I like that. I like people who are like in movies and stuff. So I was like, oh, I like him in movies. So he's fine. Which is why I got in trouble with the escorting because I was like, they're fine. They're in movies and those are usually the dirtiest ones.

Starting point is 00:30:00 Really? But yeah, that was a random guy. You don't have to say who, but like what's like the craziest request someone had when you were in escort? When has an escort? I want you to dump on my chest. Yeah, but that wasn't crazy. That's like a very normal one. That's not crazy?

Starting point is 00:30:14 I feel like people like that. I've talked about that before on something. And I'm like, people like that. So you've just taken a hot dump on a dude's chest before? I haven't. They like to do it on me. Whoa. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:30:24 How's that? I mean, it's not my thing, but, like, if that's what they like. I feel like the smell alone would have me feeling pretty sick to my stomach. I was fucked. Oh, you're so you're super fucked up. Yeah. You kind of got to do that, huh? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:30:36 Yeah, especially those kind of requests. I mean, I think the only other one I can, like, think of that was, like, kind of crazy was, like, well, I mean, I had someone shoot at my head one time. Shoot at your head? Yeah. With a gun? Yeah. Wait.

Starting point is 00:30:48 I didn't know he was doing that. That wasn't a request. But, oh my gosh. Yeah, it was, that was like his way he got off was like shooting at you. But where were you? In his house.

Starting point is 00:30:59 To a farm or something? No, in his house. You can't just shoot a gun in your house. He did. No, he did. He lived in Malibu. Like, it was like a really like secluded up in like a, like,

Starting point is 00:31:07 into the wall or something. Yeah. Yeah. He was like, it was hitting like lamps and shit. And that's only way he can get, oh my God. It's only way he could nothing.

Starting point is 00:31:15 And he's really well known. Like, if I were to say it, if people, I think I've maybe told Jason, like, maybe my mom. That's a fetish I've never heard of shooting actually at her. I never went back. Like, I was like, oh, this is weird. So let me get the straight. Were you not crying? Like, I was fucking freaking out.

Starting point is 00:31:30 Well, I was fucked up, but also, like, so scared. And, like, I didn't know. I don't think they had Ubers at the time. I think it was, like, 18 or 19. So I don't think they had Uber. So there was no, this is not some, like, hunger games type shit where they're, like, actually trying to, like, murder you for sport? No, no, because he, he texted me because I didn't sign an NDA or anything.

Starting point is 00:31:46 so technically theoretically I could say it. But he texted me the next day. I was like, just so you know, it's like a fetish. Like, thanks for going along with it. I was like, okay, cool. Is this Quentin Tarithana? No. He would be the type though, right?

Starting point is 00:31:58 Can you see it? Yeah, I can see that. No, no, it's not him. But I don't know. I have a friend, she like years ago before I met you, she was like, I have this guy, he'll pay us with you. You just have to be in dog cages and we have to eat out of bowls. Like in the dog cages, you want to come with me to his house?

Starting point is 00:32:13 And I was like, fuck no. No? Just to be in a dog. I love that. You're kind of down? I love being caged. Wow. This is before I did like crazy threesomes and ate ass.

Starting point is 00:32:22 And so back then especially, I was like, what? You're okay with just eating out of a dog bowl? That's so weird. Yeah, I like it. I've eaten out of dog bowl with a dog before. Like, they make me, like, eat at the same time as their dog. Who is they? It was a couple, actually.

Starting point is 00:32:37 And they were both into this together. Yeah. I'm starting to feel a little vanilla. I know. Every time this happens every, like, I feel, I like watching, like, decreating porn, and I feel really guilty when I watch it, but now I'm like, maybe that's not so bad. It's not so bad.

Starting point is 00:32:51 I'm not watching people shooting at anyone. I like it because I'm just like so in control and so like dominant. I usually make the money. I usually am like the power person, so I like being like degraded. What is that? Oh, you know what it was?

Starting point is 00:33:04 I think somebody donated and I forgot the time of sound on the donation's off. That was really creepy. We could definitely die. Don't say that. Yeah, he's the worst, right? I take it back. Oh my God.

Starting point is 00:33:15 All of it. This would be a bad trio to go. You don't think this would be a good... I'm telling them to die with you. If this is how I die here... Talking about eating out of a dog food bowl. I'd like to be stuck in a jail cell with Trisha because I feel like there'd be an endless amount of stories.

Starting point is 00:33:28 Dying with Trisha, I don't know. Yeah? Yeah, I don't think... Let's not do that. Oh, shit. So do you think that there's any chance that we're actually all going to end up hooking up for the private snap or is that just not happening? She doesn't fuck on private snapchat.

Starting point is 00:33:39 She just puts her face in food. You could eat food off my dick or something. I'm now for whatever. What kind of food? Like a T-bone steak maybe You can just sort of drape it over the cock But hot dog bun around you dick Yeah

Starting point is 00:33:50 Well that's the thing I get scared of like I said I got scared of you guys You guys are very scary What are we? What are we? We're so boring You don't understand

Starting point is 00:33:57 Like intimidating It's very intimidating Because you guys post everything For everyone to see And I'm like wow That's how I make all my money So I gotta fucking promote my soundtrack I love it

Starting point is 00:34:04 I love it It's just to me You're hardcore Like I'm like whoa That's like a whole Like people think I'm bad I'm like oh my god But what about like Lena

Starting point is 00:34:11 Like you know what I mean Like you guys You too like I was looking the other day I was showing my friend, and we're just like, oh my God, you post, like, what will we post? Like, literally just, I mean, it's because it's not bad, but like, like, for Twitter, I like, will be scrolling down my timeline. It's, like, just you, like, opening a girl's ass, like, eating out, like, while you're getting, like, fuck.

Starting point is 00:34:26 I was like, oh, my God, this is so. Natalia. Yeah. Yeah. Well, she's Polish. Oh, okay. That's fine. So it's coming.

Starting point is 00:34:32 Okay, so it's fine. It wasn't that big deal with it. It's weird. I feel like sometimes people don't get what the private Snapchat thing is, so I'm like, I have to show them exactly what they would be getting if they got the private Snapchat. Yeah, no, it's good. But also, you guys fuck a lot of porn stars,

Starting point is 00:34:46 and I get scared of that, too, because I know even though porn stars get tested like every two weeks, I also got my other disease from a porn star, a guy porn star, and I was like, I thought you were, like, clean all the time. I think is that we're scared to hooking up with regular girls now.

Starting point is 00:34:57 Because I'm like, they don't get tested. I get tested every two weeks. Like, I go to the clinic and people don't get tested. Yeah, I probably have a test in like six months. And like, we hung out with this girl in London that we were trying to get it in with. It was just, you know, She's not a porn star, she's not a stripper.

Starting point is 00:35:09 She's not like, you know. But she has Cleveland on her story, so I'm like, who's she fucking around with? Exactly. I'm like, like this random groupie bitch. I'm sorry. What rappers was she fucking with? I know rappers don't get tested. If I see smoke perp on your Instagram, I'm just assuming that it's going down, right?

Starting point is 00:35:25 Like, because what the hell else is he? I know him. I know he didn't just come over to talk. I mean, yeah. So if you're fucking rappers, I don't know. I can't go get tested, please. I don't know any rappers. You don't?

Starting point is 00:35:34 I know Eminem. You know him in real life? Yeah, I did a video. in his music video. Really? Oh, right. What was the story on that? Let's talk about it.

Starting point is 00:35:41 This is hip hop right here. Is he relevant? Is he still around? He's the biggest rapper in the world. I always say that was like a joke because he's still like old. So I was like, oh, I love Eminem. I mean, based on pure album sales or like, I mean, maybe ticket sales or whatever available metrics, I mean, he's like pretty much still like the biggest rapper.

Starting point is 00:35:57 Really? Oh, I didn't know. Yeah, I get DMs from rappers because I see the blue check mark because now they have it so whoever has the most followers you can see in the DMs. Wait, really? Yeah. Not on mine. this out.

Starting point is 00:36:07 You got to switch it. I found this out from Logan Paul, like on his podcast. He says, like, you can switch to influencer, and then it'll show your DMs will be from the top. Most, whoever has the most followers will be at the top of the DMs. You switch to influencer. This is a different mode you can be in. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:36:21 I want to be, see, I hate that. I hate the, fucking, the phrase influencer, but now I'm going to have to switch my Instagram. Yeah, everyone has influence, I feel. Yeah, but it's just such a lame thing to call it. It's so lame. It's so lame.

Starting point is 00:36:32 I hate influencers. I hate fans. I hate all that. I hate the names of it. Like, I just, I'm like, Well, because I'm actually known for doing something, like mostly doing interviews. Why are looking at me like that? I'm just saying that, no, I mean, you are known for a specific thing, too.

Starting point is 00:36:44 I don't feel like I have real influence. I feel like I influence people to come and that's it. There are a lot of people out there who are influencers only because it would be basically impossible to describe what they are besides like, oh, she looks good and she's on Instagram or like he is on Instagram and he like makes funny videos sometimes or something like that. Like it is hard. Like when I go to explain who Roy Purdy is, it's kind of like, well, You might just end up calling him an influencer because he skates, he dances, he dresses, cool, he takes photos, he makes funny videos sometimes.

Starting point is 00:37:13 He's popular on the internet, but it's a lot longer. But I wouldn't say influencer. I would say he's like an Instagram star or he's like a funny guy on Instagram. Yeah, or like Instagram celebrities. What do you call yourself? Just a YouTuber? Yeah, people, I'd say, what do you do? I do YouTube.

Starting point is 00:37:25 I don't know. It's so weird to base your like what you do based just like on a platform name. Yeah. Especially when the platform is literally hell. Well, when you hate it. YouTube. You can tweet them. You're like, what the hell YouTube? I used to make money off YouTube. I mean, I still do, but it used to be so much better. You used to be rich off just AdSense. Right?

Starting point is 00:37:44 Oh my God, I was bawling. Yes. Like, I barely make what I made back in the day. What's the most of you ever made off AdSense in one month? Well, I get demonetized. I feel like I can't even say that. I feel like you're not supposed to start. Are you sure? Yeah, you just, you can't show your analytics, I don't think, but even that. Wait, really? What?

Starting point is 00:37:58 I mean, I guess I was never like, like, I guess I make more now, but I guess at one point is maybe making like $150 a month. Oof. That's nice. But that's not even close now to like what I'm doing at all. But you didn't have to do anything stupid. You didn't have to do all these crazy brand deals. You just make videos. I did like 100 layers of cum and that got monetized, you know. Oh my God.

Starting point is 00:38:15 Oh my God. Oh, my God. Your titles. Your old title. I went back like eight years. I was like, I can't believe she has a video called if you give a whore a cookie. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:38:21 I'm over here like I don't use my name in the keywords like anything. Yeah. I know that it's going to get. I got a strike for like a haul. Yeah. Oh, I did you. I think was that recently like a couple days ago. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:38:32 I got reinstated and taken removed. But I was like, what the f? I blurt out like my lower half of my body in the video. It was, that happened to me too. That was like an error because like, same thing. I didn't have bikinis on or anything. And I got, that was like weird.

Starting point is 00:38:43 It was like a copyright strike or something. I was like, but yeah, my old ones, you could say like how to give a blow job on YouTube and get monetized. And like, you can't do that anymore.

Starting point is 00:38:50 So that's why I moved to Patreon. I do videos like that over there. I got three million views off doing acid in the woods for a vlog. And that was like, you know, it made a lot of money off. It got so many views.

Starting point is 00:39:00 I used to think of YouTube that way. like, oh, I'm the guy on YouTube who's going to do all the bad stuff. I was really, like, trying to do, you know, the Xenex vlog. Like, I was going to, like, actually just make a vlog. There was a lot of stuff that I was, I had brewing around in my head

Starting point is 00:39:13 before the demonetization wave hit. One time I thought about what it would be like to do heroin for a vlog. You're disgusting. No, but just, you know, just do it one time just to, like, show. Have you ever tried heroin? Someone injected me one time.

Starting point is 00:39:24 Whoa. How was that? He was, he was like a, um, it was awful. I honestly thought I was dying. I thought I was dead. That's why when I say miracles, I kind of believe in God because I feel like I should be dead for sure.

Starting point is 00:39:33 So you didn't like it. No. I feel like I would like it. What would you like about it? Well, I mean, every other like pain pill or opiate I've ever done has been, you know. I love those. That's where my addiction this year. I don't do it anymore.

Starting point is 00:39:44 I've been sober since my birthday. But like that was my weakness. I ended up in a hospital like twice because of it. You were Zanhead? Perks were my thing. I like to have a bottle. You're a rapper. Oh my God.

Starting point is 00:39:56 Is that what rappers do? I've never tried to purpose that before. Wait, actually? Also, everyone. I thought like Prince. Like that was like pop people do it. So you don't like uppers. You like downers.

Starting point is 00:40:05 I like it all. I used to. Well, I used to. I have been clean of drugs for three months. But what? Let's talk to me about your perk relationship at one point. How many were you taking a day? How many 30s a day?

Starting point is 00:40:14 No, it wasn't that many actually. Like I had like I had a prescription. So I would maybe do like I would do a couple in the morning, a couple at night, couple in the afternoon. Okay. But the day I overdosed where I had to get like my stomach like pumped, which I don't talk about that much. But like the best was in February.

Starting point is 00:40:26 Like that was like a bottle. Whoa. So what were you going through in your life? Would you try to overdose or what? No, but I got 5150 because they thought it was a suicide attempt, but it wasn't. Really? Whoa. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:40:38 Because Jason. Yeah, he was there. And so was David. They were around while you were taking this one of the hospitals? No, they were at the Cedarsigning when I got admitted. Doeerzny. Do you ever take a perk with David Dover? No.

Starting point is 00:40:46 He didn't do it? No, he's very, very, very clean. I know. Oh, yeah. He came to the porn convention and filmed a ton of stuff and didn't put any of it in the vlog. Which is crazy because he's clean. like sober clean but like I would always talk about like sucking cock and like he took me to like vivid to like see if I could get a porn deal like so he's clean but like not yeah because I feel like

Starting point is 00:41:06 I was always talking about like fucking and sex and like all that stuff and now he's very clean but if I were him I would be paranoid about anything sexual period because you know if he gets one like he goes out and he gets drunk and he hooks up with one girl then his whole clean reputation could be erased off of like one bad hookup one weird girl saying something about him yeah well he's like that he's big i don't think he hooks up with girls no really tried to fuck him a ton of times and he said no he's really weird about that but his friend group is not and that's what's going to be the downfall of their group because they you know dirty dom like commented on a 15 year old mackenzie ziggler's like instagram was like oh call me girl i was like oh my god yeah and he had like a sexual

Starting point is 00:41:45 assault thing at vidcon a couple years ago with like a 17 year old like held her down like the friend group is going to be the demise of so do you think that he's distancing himself from certain people because of stuff like that is that part of why you were out of there uh no you know why he disdance himself for me because I had old videos about immigrants like that was a trolling video and so he started from that and then slowly was pushing me out and then like when I wasn't getting out then he made sure to do the Tanna jokes a bunch because he knew I hated that and I would

Starting point is 00:42:08 like go off and then that's when he told yeah but did you always feel like you were supposed to be a temporary friend for them anyway that you were just like a pop-up character on the show and that it wasn't going to last or do you think that that was the plan in retrospect? I don't know maybe now I think that would no at the time like when I started dating Jason

Starting point is 00:42:24 I was never in David's log so I don't know how that even got to be but I didn't even think about it I was like oh me and Jason are just gonna like get married and like we'll be good like I just thought we were like real but now like looking back maybe I don't know that's what like makes me so that's why I went crazy back in like me I was trying meth I was doing all this stuff because like I started like fucking with me I was like oh my god

Starting point is 00:42:41 maybe this was because he was so cold all of a sudden like Jason went from being so loving wonderful and then David too cold instantly and I was like it was like shocking yeah you start to wonder like if it was ever a thing I don't think it was and that was the craziest because they were like I thought they were like this like the most empathetic sweetest, like, I was, like, down, like, they were, I thought they were, like, really had my back.

Starting point is 00:43:00 Yeah, but at a certain point, if you think somebody's toxic for your life and you just got to cut the cord, right? Yeah, but, like, she made a trolling video, and then that... No, it wasn't even a trolling video. All I did was make a response to saying, I don't like the joke about Tanna. And then what I said is they had a joke in his blog. He was talking to an underage girl about sex with one of his friends,

Starting point is 00:43:16 and I said it in the video, and then they cut me out. I mean, if you can say that toxic, calling someone out, I guess. Yeah, but I know that situation you're referring to, and don't you think of that that kind of, like, If you're going to be part of that friend group and there is a situation that's dicey, like the dude that you're talking about, hanging out with a girl that was underage or a little bit or whatever, and like, you know, now she's of age or but maybe hung out with it for a little while when she wasn't, don't you feel like that's kind of like the code of being like really tight friends with a bunch of people

Starting point is 00:43:42 is that you know about people's dirty shit that they don't want anyone to know about, but you keep your mouth shut about it. That's kind of like the rule of being friends with people, right? Well, if you look at that video and I deleted it, but I edited a lot out because that was a slip. And I literally said that, like, off the cuff. But it became the big thing. And that's why, because David wanted to film that night, I made the video. He said, do you guys want to film?

Starting point is 00:44:00 I mean, Jason, like, it might be too soon. But then Monday, when all the videos came about what I said that I let slip, because it wasn't, if I wanted to be malicious towards that guy, I would have made it because there's a bunch more I could have said out of that person. But not only him, but other people in that group. I know so much shit. That's like, and I always just think it'll come to light. If it's meant to come to light, I don't want to be that person to like,

Starting point is 00:44:17 even making that video, I wasn't trying to bring David down. I was just pissed that he did that threesome joke again with Tana. When they were by themselves, I wasn't even there. I hated it. I told him multiple times. And I was just pissed. And they had no remorse. Like Jason's like, sorry, it's for the vlog.

Starting point is 00:44:29 And David's like, sorry, what happened again, even though he did it consistently that week. So I was pissed. So I just made a video. It wasn't like, if I wanted to trash David, I could trash him because there are some crazy shady things that have happened. And I don't. Well, if you were offended by people joking around about hooking up with Tana, we hooked up up right in front of Tana.

Starting point is 00:44:46 I saw that video. Lennon was literally saying like, come on, Tana, come on. Get in on this. I was blackout drunk and I regret that night so much because I ended up crying afterwards and Tanna and Mari had to console me because I got so blackout drunk that and you got annoyed of me and then I got sad that I annoyed you and that you left and then I was crying and then that next morning I woke up and I thought that we were going to break up and then peep died and I came and consoled you.

Starting point is 00:45:10 Holy shit. That was the sequence of events. Yes. I went to my therapist, my eating disorder therapist and the whole time we just talked about how I thought we were going to break up. This is like why every time about my birdies. Yeah, I got to write up. I know.

Starting point is 00:45:19 Some with Tanna, just darkness. Wow. That's a bad memory in my mind because I thought we were going to break up afterwards and because Pete died. And yeah, that was just like, that whole video is like, I have totally different understanding of it. Tanna's like the dark horse, man. You guys almost broke up over that too.

Starting point is 00:45:33 And we broke up because she's like, and phase banks too. Well, wasn't only Tana's fault? You're the reason why him and Alyssa broke up? No, Tana is. She's like the darkness. No way. That's not true. I think Alyssa knew about that for a long.

Starting point is 00:45:45 No, but you guys, you thought she was going to break, you were going to break up after that. Well, I thought we were going to break up because I got too drunk and I annoyed him. And when he's annoyed, he's like, he has no remorse. He's just mad and he doesn't get like, oh, babe. It's also the same guy who tweeted me, I'll leave my girlfriend for you. And everyone was like, what the fuck? I was just joking.

Starting point is 00:46:03 I know. But if Jason made that joke, I would literally, I would go so bad shit. But I guess that's the thing. Would you get mad about the things he said? Yeah, but Jason's not Howard Stern. No, but I feel like I'm dating Howard Stern. Oh, I think it's different. So that's why.

Starting point is 00:46:15 Want to be Howard Stern. Want to be Howard Stern. He's my favorite, yeah. I just feel like, you know, like when I started seeing him, I knew exactly who he was. Of course. So I knew that there was things that I was going to have to accept. There's things that he definitely cannot fucking say, and there's girls he that he definitely cannot give attention to. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:46:30 But those are specific people. Hillary Clinton? Yeah, fuck. Oh, God. Don't tell everyone, Pete. Not Hillary Clinton? No, I'm just kidding. It's not one of the girls.

Starting point is 00:46:38 Well, you're also just like eating girls out. Like, you guys have a very open relationship. As far as not open, like, fuck anybody. But as far as, like, you put it all out there. And you have that relationship. Me and Jason didn't have that relationship. He knew I was insecure, especially about the three-sum, especially about Tana, because he tried to kiss Tiana when she was 18 in a vlog, and he was like, oh, I didn't want it.

Starting point is 00:46:54 And so that was already my issue, and then he was constantly making jokes about, like, three-sums with her when I wasn't around. And so it was just something that was really insecure about. So kind of, like, there's certain people he can't give attention to. There's certain butt you can't press. So, and I would always, and once I knew he didn't like, because I used to make jokes, like, oh, I want to fuck David or whatever. Once he told me, oh, because I thought, oh, he, like, this is our joking thing, whatever. And then he's like, it was uncomfortable.

Starting point is 00:47:13 I stopped it. I said I was uncomfortable and they kept pushing it. My favorite was when you drop your towel in front of David. Because it's a Tana joke. It was because they mentioned the fucking Tana 3-7 and I said, oh, really? I'll fucking, because Jason Tated that got naked. I just took my shit off and my underwear and everything. I was like, you just want me to get naked in front of someone?

Starting point is 00:47:29 He was so pissed about that. I was like, well, fucking don't make those Tana jokes. And after that, they're like, never again. We'll never do it again. And then they fucking did it because David wanted me out of the group because of the joke that resurfaced about my grinds, which I get. It's fine. Like, I don't give a fuck me out.

Starting point is 00:47:40 I don't care. I've been cut out of groups before. It doesn't matter, but the way he went about it, so shady. Do you regret a lot of the trolling that you've done, like, in the past? You do? Yeah, of course. Everyone thinks I'm, like, a racist now forever. Isn't that weird how you were capable?

Starting point is 00:47:52 Like, there was a time just, like, a couple years ago, where you were able to make those videos making jokes about immigrants and making jokes about Trump, and it seemed like it was all the big joke. And then all of a sudden, Donald Trump is president, and there's, like, all these atrocities that people are attributing to him, and all of a sudden, the stuff that people were clearly able to laugh at a couple of years ago is now making you out to be like fucking Hitler. Literally.

Starting point is 00:48:13 That's crazy? I mean, I literally had a video where I was wearing a Trump supporter shirt and I was like, fuck, that's forever out there. And I'm like, yeah. It sucks that you have to regret that. I regret it. Well, because, you know, I don't know anything about politics. Even back then, it was when he was still in, you know, like, the primary.

Starting point is 00:48:26 You know, he wasn't even got the nomination yet. I was like, this is so fucking stupid. And I thought it was so clearly a joke and now it haunts me literally forever, which I get. And I'm fine with that too. But like, it does. Of course I regret that. I don't want to be like a racist or homophobic or any of that stuff.

Starting point is 00:48:38 I mean, when people just use that to try to define your whole existence, which is so crazy, because it's so obviously a video that was made in Jess. And it's still, people are using it to try to, like, paint your entire existence that way. That's so dark. And if they knew anything about you, though, that would know that you were just joking. And I always apologize. I still, like, I'm so sorry. Like, even when that all happened, I was so, I, like, I'm always apologizing for it.

Starting point is 00:48:59 Let me ask you something that we could figure out if you're racist or not. You ever had sex with a black guy? Yes. A lot. With one black guy or a lot of black guys? What are you talking about? Like, you ever do a black scene. A black, what's that mean?

Starting point is 00:49:11 Black's, the porn company? Never mind. A black scene? Black is like a porn company and they do like a lot of like gang gangs, like eight big ass black dudes like the biggest dick she ever seen. So it kind of just stands out as like a very like it's its own specific thing because like when a girl does a black scene it's like whoa like she's taking about. I can't do.

Starting point is 00:49:29 I can't do trains. That's for sure. That hurts too much. And I tighten. I got the surgery to tighten my eight. I want to hear about this. So you just, they cut you up and then they start you. stitch it back tighter.

Starting point is 00:49:38 But we've got to finish with the black dudes. Just because there's probably a lot of brothers watching this right now who are thinking like, do I have a chance? What do I have to do? I just can't have too big of a dick. Because the ones I've been with have had big dicks. And I thought it was like a stereotype. And I was like, they're also a lot stiffer than white guys and it hurts.

Starting point is 00:49:54 Stiffer dicks? Yeah. It gets stiffer. Like white guys can get hard, but not stiff. Like black guys are stiff. And that just hurts so much. You're just like, mm. That's interesting.

Starting point is 00:50:02 I'll have to ask my, my foreign girlfriends about this. I don't know. Did they get harder? Yeah. For sure, a thousand percent. That's like a known thing. Wow, I didn't know that. I want to Google this later.

Starting point is 00:50:11 That's very interesting. Yeah, it hurts. It hurts a lot. All the black dudes out there who have small dicks are watching this like, hell yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that'll be down. I've never met one yet. Because that being the stereotype of black dudes, that's kind of fucked up.

Starting point is 00:50:23 The black dudes who do have mid dicks is like, damn, like my whole stereotype of all my people. Or like Asian girl out there who's just loose as hell. She's like, damn. I don't think those exist. I don't think like, I think all black guys have big dicks. I mean, the ones I've seen anyways. Oh, no, no. Well, you just assume that Asian.

Starting point is 00:50:37 Asian girls are tight. Is that the serious? They are. Yeah. Yeah. One time I tried my finger in an Asian girl and it was like literally like just, it was like I just feel like people don't know anything about vaginas though because I've been talking about this for the last week because I posted a photo of a pussy stack. So me and my two girlfriends.

Starting point is 00:50:50 I saw that. Yeah. And so like everyone thinks that me and my friend who have the longer labia are more stretched out when they just don't realize that there's like short labia and long labia. And so I'm like people just don't know anything about the anatomy. But on average, Asian girls have smaller vaginas and Asian guys have smaller dicks. That's true. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:51:06 effects. Yeah, that makes sense. I mean, they're smaller people. They're petite. There was an Asian YouTuber I hooked up with and his dick was so small. Really? It was so small. Yeah. It was like, I was like, I was shook. It lasted like a couple seconds. I was like, wait, was it even in? Like, I was so. Asian YouTuber. I don't know if I know any. He got, he got mad at me too because I kind of hinted at one time. But I love him. He's nice. So don't. It's got to be weird going through life with a really, really small one because you're just sort of like. I don't mind it. You always know there's a little dick reveal in your near future man they they compensate though they all they compensate a little more really maybe uh I'm

Starting point is 00:51:40 terrible in bed that's probably why I feel like that I feel like you guys would be like that because I looked at I was trying to find like your penis I was like does he have like a really big one so I was like going on yours trying to find it it was just hard to see because it was always like going into like an ass or something so I don't know the actual size I'll show you some photos in a bit but she tries not to like show my actual like too much of my anatomy on Twitter and stuff you go to the private snout even though I don't want to make him memed you know but that's your thing I I think of, I thought you were a porn star too.

Starting point is 00:52:07 Like when I first met you at my party. I just bang her on social media. Or no, on Snapchat. That's like a porn star then. That's, like, if you're banging someone on camera. I always wanted to do a sex tape with Jason so bad. I like begged him. That would be so great.

Starting point is 00:52:19 The only difference is that like Johnny Sins gets filmed like, you see every angle of his body doing the bang in all different professional porn angles. Whereas when we do it, it's like me filming or like her filming. Yeah. It's a little bit more. It's iPhone. You don't see. There's not as many details.

Starting point is 00:52:35 I can't see all. the cellulate in my ass and everything. Oh, I love cellulet. I'm on the guy's ass. I love it. Me and you might work out. Saladlight turns me on. Like, I'm a guy who's cellular on his ass.

Starting point is 00:52:43 Take the trission to the bathroom after this. I'll hang out outside the door. Just listen. You are such a, you are enabling the patriarchy because you're embracing all the bad things about guys. You're just allowing guys to be pieces of shit. You love it. I think secretly I do.

Starting point is 00:52:56 I do. I go for these guys who treat me in like shit. And I don't know why I get so turned on by it. I don't know. What's wrong with us? I know. Do you meet guys? Shut.

Starting point is 00:53:05 Literally, when I got in here, he's like, oh, yeah, I talked about Elena's murder. I was like, oh my God. He was talking about

Starting point is 00:53:11 me getting killed earlier. And he's like, I might just do it myself. I'll hire two people to call. I was like, oh my gosh. Did I say that? Yeah,

Starting point is 00:53:16 but the thing is like, he's never yelled at me. He's never yelled at me. He's never once touched me. He never wants touched me in a way that hurt unless was by accident. What would I do?

Starting point is 00:53:27 What? I'm just saying that like, you know, you joke about killing me, but if anyone wants to ever use this against him. No, I swear he's good.

Starting point is 00:53:33 I don't think there's any chance I'm going to kill you, so I'm not really worried about it. You get someone else to do it. What if someone else killed you and then they're looking at me and they're pulling up all these clips? God, that would be a good scandal. It's always the boyfriend. Or the husband. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:53:46 With tattoos, too. I feel like people tattoos kill more. Probably. Yeah. That sucks. Tattooed lives matter. You can't just say that about it. No, people with tattoos definitely scare me.

Starting point is 00:53:57 I'm definitely like go the opposite way when I see them. You never thought about getting them? No. You don't have any? No. Wait, you really have zero, that's crazy. Remind her. Wait, remind me what.

Starting point is 00:54:06 I did a touch of tattoos. All of a sudden she wants to be freaking Catvon D. Oh, and he was like, no. Cat von Lennah. I think they're hot on guys. Like, they're scary. I like them on guys. I don't like them on girls.

Starting point is 00:54:15 The girl I did have a bunch of tattoos and she did look good with them, but they were like colorful and bright. There are a lot of really bad tattoos, the same way there's like a lot of really bad injections being done. So it's like you can think of those things and think that they're always going to be bad. They can be done well. I dated a girl for a year who had a really, really bad tattoo on her back of a dancing little man and like it was like a flame around him and every single time I was banging

Starting point is 00:54:37 her from behind him just looking at that tattoo just thinking like why did you do this to your body? Oh really? You don't like it on girls. It was the worst tattoo and she looked so bad with it and it was just like God like you look good for my hand and I'm looking at that stupid tattoo. It ruined it for you. Like she has a pretzel tattoo. It's not a fucking pretzel. It's a piece heart. I got one with 17 leave me alone. Where is it? Looks like a pretzel. And I'm just saying I'm glad that it's in a place that I can't really see when I'm having sex with you, you know? I'll kind of remove one of these days, all right? No, no, no, no, that's fine.

Starting point is 00:55:06 You guys are so interesting. I like the dynamic. Like, I love the dynamic, though, that you guys are just comfortable doing that because, oh, my God, like, the way you guys are with each other, I would fucking, like, go crazy. You get mad? I'd get so mad. I don't think that I could be like this with every guy. I think that there's, like, special things that I allow for him because he's, like, a public figure,

Starting point is 00:55:26 and he's been this person since before I started dating him. But it's also that, I mean, I totally. People think that I don't get jealous. People think that I don't get insecure about things. Do you get jealous? Oh, hell yeah. There's times when, you know, we joke with each other and like we're having this banter. But there are times where my feelings actually get hurt or when I actually hurt his feelings, you know?

Starting point is 00:55:43 What? The little he has. Have you? Does that happen? I've definitely said things to you. They're like, like, what hurt his feelings? What did I cross the line? The other day she brought up the fact that I, like, said that I wanted to fuck some girl on live stream one time.

Starting point is 00:55:55 And she happened to be watching. Oh, because you were like, you were talking like, you were with your boys and you fucking. and thought that no one, you were like, and not only did you say that you want to fuck her, she didn't walk her, she had walked by. So she was there. And my friend goes, God, she looks good. And I was like, yeah, I want to fuck her so bad.

Starting point is 00:56:11 And she just hit me up so hurt all right. This was 2018, I remember. Oh, wow. Well, I also feel like that is his sense of humor. Like, when you tweeted me. It wasn't a sense of humor. I was just saying she was hot. I didn't think it was a big deal.

Starting point is 00:56:22 Would you actually have fucked her? With permission from my lovely girlfriend. But the thing is, it's not okay because I would never be allowed to say anything like that. I don't like you. Because you guys don't fuck guys. Yeah, they're just girls. I know.

Starting point is 00:56:34 I mean, if you want to say that a dude's hot, you talk about hot dudes all the time. Like Leonardo DiCaprio. Like, not someone who's in the room with us. Hot is hot. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:56:41 Jason Moa. Who's that? Aquaman. Oh, yeah. Good looking guy. I can say that. Yeah, but I'm never going to have the chance with him.

Starting point is 00:56:49 Yeah. Like, you're talking about Rihanna wouldn't piss me off. You talk about the girl that just walked in? Exactly. Hello, she's in the fucking room and you're talking about wanting to fuck her. She didn't hear me. And you're on live, so your whole audience is seeing you being rude to me on live street.

Starting point is 00:57:01 But they didn't even know what girl I was talking about. She had just walked by. They didn't see her. The camera was important. Oh yeah. I saw her. The camera did see her. It's also like that I'm kind of with you.

Starting point is 00:57:10 It's not even necessarily like, do I think Jason would ever have sex with Tiana? Like I don't think she would fuck Jason in a million years. But it was more of the humiliation. Yeah, exactly. It's like being, if you get cheated on and nobody knows, it's less humiliating than if you get cheated on and everybody knows. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. My other boyfriend before him was like on someone's Snapchat making out was like.

Starting point is 00:57:27 someone and that's why we broke up because he was cheating. I mean, I had no idea that everybody found out. So it's more humiliating. And I'm like, even. I bet Cardi B knows about so many more times the offset shooting on her that the world doesn't know about, but it's just the ones that were public that. Because you know what happens to Cardi B's DMs? Girl, leave him.

Starting point is 00:57:41 What is wrong with you? Blah, blah, blah. And then she has to deal with her girlfriend's hating her and herself being humiliated. I mean, the embarrassment to me is more than anything that it's like, even the cheating aspect of it. It's like whatever. Because then you just become someone who accepts humiliation. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:57:56 I want to be Johnny Sins. I want to be someone that could just be completely open about my sexuality. And I want to be KISSA sins and I want to get DEPed on camera. Do you? Who are these people? I'm just saying if you want to be Jani, I want to be kiss a. But is that what everything's based on? It's just you trying to get revenge.

Starting point is 00:58:10 It's not about revenge. It's about being equal and having the same balance of power. I think it should be about everybody doing what they want to do. And sometimes I might want to get DEPED. Okay. Well, you should. You do it. No.

Starting point is 00:58:21 Yes. Let's see how it goes. I see I'm looking at you like, do it. See, I'm not. a lot to talk about ex-boyfriends. Adam gets mad. You claim that you don't have any ex-boyfriends. I mean, two months of dating

Starting point is 00:58:32 in high school, I guess that doesn't count really. Do you want to talk about your two months of dating in high school? Go crazy. And you get mad about that? No. Oh. What? I'm a virgin before I did it, Adam.

Starting point is 00:58:44 No other guys have ever been in here. She puts these rules on herself. It's not like me putting the rules. She has sort of created these confines, in my opinion. I want to tell a story. Now I'm not going to tell it. Oh, what's a story? Really?

Starting point is 00:58:58 On my birthday, two years ago, we walked into Nobu, and there was a guy that I had slept with there, and Adam could not talk the whole dinner on my birthday. You were so upset. I was just annoyed. Why? I know. Because why? Because he was there with his fiance.

Starting point is 00:59:10 I was annoyed by the circumstances surrounded. It was my fucking birthday. Oh, my God. Because he was there. You were mad. So don't act like you're up behind as fuck, okay? Expose, Adam. You should be exposed.

Starting point is 00:59:23 You're a little insider. Now that I'm in person with you, you're like a little shit. It was annoying too because I wouldn't even have known who this dude was and she started yapping about it. Like it was all cool and shit. I just couldn't believe. I was more like, I blurted off. I was like,

Starting point is 00:59:33 oh my God, because you had already known and I'd had sex with him. Yeah, but I didn't know what the fuck he looked like or anything. Oh, God, whatever. Will you get jealous? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:59:41 I was a little annoyed. I'm like, why you gotta be fucking bragging and shit? I wasn't bragged. Oh, my God, I can't believe this person's here at the same time on my birthday. Devil's standard. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:59:49 Exactly. You just talked about a fucking girl that was literally walking past you. In the current. But you talked about it. All I said was that I wanted to fuck her. That you was hot. What's wrong with that though? She was hot.

Starting point is 00:59:59 Big deal. You know she's hot? No, I didn't think she was hot. And I didn't want you wanted to fuck a girl who was in your store when I wasn't there. Is this your store? Do you like a pop and brand? Is this like hype? Is this a hype store?

Starting point is 01:00:11 Meh. Do you want a bicycle? 7669 Melrose. Nojumper.com. Everyone is going to take the last 10 minutes of me and you bickering and say that we're fighting and we're going to break up. Oh, I'm down. We don't have like.

Starting point is 01:00:23 Any like relationship drama videos on on YouTube. You're lucky. Jason exposed every single fight we ever had. Like if I did something, he would like go blab to David, David would film it. Like they, they seem so unhealthy.

Starting point is 01:00:34 Yeah, we like kind of vowed that we would never do that when we started dating. Like, because we just saw how scary it could get. You know what? Here's the thing. I actually didn't care at the time because I was like,

Starting point is 01:00:42 whatever. I mean, that's just because of all the judgment. It was just like that was the only bad thing. I didn't care. I was like, whatever, say whatever you want because we fight.

Starting point is 01:00:49 But I mean, your whole life has been YouTube for so long that it's kind of like you just put all everything that you everything's content right so it just all ends up online yeah but then they would he would try and sense of what I said but if it was for david's blog then he could say whatever you wanted it I just feel like there's no reason to be putting all that out there like I just like even before I started seeing her when I think about it like all the different girls I was hanging out with I would just put them in my vlogs and that just seems insane to me I think that's why people like I like to do it because no one's really doing that where you

Starting point is 01:01:17 expose everything like the good and the bad right like crying on your floor over like you know whatever, like saying you're a methodic. Like, nobody's really talking about that stuff. You know what I mean? So I feel like in a way, it's kind of like why people watch me. And I feel like I like saying it because it's like, I don't know.

Starting point is 01:01:30 I like to be open. I think I like to share everything and I shouldn't. But do you really think that you like being open or do you feel like you actually just like using your own life for your content? No, I like being open because like with Jason when we fought, it was very like, to me it's very freeing to like let it out there.

Starting point is 01:01:43 I like to put stuff out there like going to the mental hospital. I'd rather say that just now before someone like finds out about it or like it's like a secret. Nobody can use your shit again. you for the one who's exposing it. A month later, even though two months later, I told Jason don't talk about me going to a mental hospital, don't break up. And I just talked about it myself. I was just like, fuck it.

Starting point is 01:01:58 I'm just going to say it myself because it was eating me up to not share everything. Same thing with our relationship. I did. I liked sharing everything because I thought, oh, it's better to show good and bad. I do. I liked it. I don't know.

Starting point is 01:02:08 Yeah. No. It's definitely like endears people to you to a certain extent. Like, okay, I know, like, rest and peace of my dude, combat jack who passed away a couple years ago is like one of the first, like, hip-hop podcasters. But I remember one time I went. to a different podcast and there's this guy Premium Pete and they used to do the show

Starting point is 01:02:25 together all the time and then they had like stopped working together and like everybody kind of knew that they had some issues with each other or whatever and when I got into the room with all these different podcasters and stuff multiple different people in the room were telling Pete like yo like we want to get you and Jack on

Starting point is 01:02:40 the podcast together and I'm not realizing right there that everybody in that room saw the value of them arguing slash sorting it out slash who knows maybe making it worse, maybe not solving anything on their show. You know, like all that is just content right there. That's just that drama is content.

Starting point is 01:02:58 And everybody in that room was a little bit of a vulture, wanting it. And that was kind of foreign to me because it's like for me, I'm, I just can't imagine doing that with my friends, you know? Right. Well, I mean, yeah, I mean, that's YouTube now. I'd be so scared to do that with you because the comments would kill me. Not necessarily, like whatever conversation we had, people would interpret it however they. Like, we do podcasts together.

Starting point is 01:03:18 I guarantee you there's going to be comments on this video. why is Lena on the podcast when there's another girl on the podcast that's what they always say like you don't you're not usually with another girl you are with another girl I don't get on the interviews when there's a dude because I have nothing to add and I don't know the rapper but like you or a porn girl Adam always asks me if I want to co-host because it just like I think you were the co-hosts sometimes but the comments are always like oh lena's there because she doesn't want Adam alone with another girl which is like definitely but that's like how they interpret things and that's why I think making relationship videos about our problems would really get to me because of the comments

Starting point is 01:03:49 Not because of what's actually happening. Everyone just blamed me for everything I did. Oh, I'm sure. I was crazy. I was like, okay, Jason's also fucking crazy. Screw a comment.

Starting point is 01:03:56 I don't care about that. Exactly. I care. I'm much more sensitive than you. Yeah. Yeah, I never cared about comments. I never cared about that,

Starting point is 01:04:03 but like everything, like real life I cared about for sure. You know what's such a liberating feeling is looking at, like, when there's like a lot of hate about me going on and I'll go and I'll like, it'll pop up in my, my Google alerts or whatever. It'll be like,

Starting point is 01:04:14 oh, here's some, some Reddit thread with like 100 pages about you. And I just see it. look at it for a second and then X out of it and you're just like wow that's so crazy that there's like so much hate right there that I could read through instead I'm just going to be not problematic at all

Starting point is 01:04:30 because I don't I can't I can't deal with it's not possible it's not going to happen I don't want to be I don't want to be problematic I'm seeing your Twitter girl well sometimes when I'm like hi I fucking go problematic but I can lead it the next day I'm like oh shit nobody is holding back on being problematic less than you no I'm trying not to be problematic I enjoy your Twitter. I'm not going to lie.

Starting point is 01:04:50 Oh, yeah. I love going, I love drinking the tea, even though I don't like to create it. I hate tea. You fucking love tea. You ever ride a lot of vacations for me because of tea? No, but like tea that comes out of coffee. Oh, you're stupid. You said you watched my petuccini video for the nicacado drama, which is so over and done and dead.

Starting point is 01:05:06 Yeah, what's up with that? Why'd you ghost on this poor kid? I want the explanation. When does this go up? Any day now? Well, just, you know. Oh, wait, I want to hear about the reality house. No, we're going to talk about Nicado officado.

Starting point is 01:05:18 Um. She doesn't talk about it. What? I don't know. Do you have things coming out? You got a collab coming out with him? You finally made up your sins. I don't know.

Starting point is 01:05:28 You're a ghost or Tricia. It's fucked up. I do ghost people. Just Fri-I. She's ghosted me a million times. Thank you. I mean, I'm not offended because I text Tanna

Starting point is 01:05:39 and Tana's fucking leaving me on red. Like I get how this YouTube life go. Here's the actual thing though. Like I and I said this, when that happened in a Kakar drama, I said this. I'm like, I have ghosted. Shane, and I'm not proud of this. I just go to Nikki and Gabby, like, there are times when I'm just like,

Starting point is 01:05:53 I get, like, I'm so like a crazy person that I get like really scared. I'm like, I was scared to even do this and the, I don't, I don't know. Lately I've been doing podcasts. I'm like, you know what? Because you had DM me before. I said, like, let me just do this podcast. And you know what I'm just trying to be out more or we're going. But I used to never collab with people. I was so scared of people. I'm terrified.

Starting point is 01:06:09 Like I'm terrified. You're like, you're like, you're used to your lonely lifestyle and then, and then you want to be around people. But then you get, you're so not used to being around people that you get nervous and I'm like this. I'm socially awkward. You get nervous to be around them because you're like, what if I do something weird?

Starting point is 01:06:22 Oh, yeah. Were you in a perk hole when you ghosted on Nakato, avocado? Were you just like fucked up? Oh, yeah, because I just had liposuction. So I was having like a ton of pain pills. So that got you back into the swing of things with the perks and stuff? It's always like that, ain't it? Yeah, because I have surgeries every couple of years so I can stack it up.

Starting point is 01:06:38 And then my, yeah. Yeah. So just muckbang and then surgery. Yeah. I want to get another lipo, but like I'm loving life right now. so I'm a little scared to die so I don't like usually I do surgery when I'm depressed yeah so now that I'm happy and you look great like you look fantastic I want to want you want to die that's what you do when you when you feel like taking your life in

Starting point is 01:06:58 your own hands it's like fuck it let's get some light up yeah it's almost like I don't care if I go out underneath because you know complications for surgery so at that point I'm usually pretty low I'm like okay if I die but I don't do surgeries when I'm happy because I'm like I don't want to die I love my life and right now I'm like loving life so I'm trying to be like you know safe getting lipo is like skydiving for gas and Yeah, it's a little, it's like a risk. I fucking hated skydiving I did it the other days. Did you do it naked?

Starting point is 01:07:21 No, my friend did it naked and I was looking at her like, doesn't that shit hurt? Oh yeah, you should have done it naked. There's nothing less hot than a girl skydiving naked and their boobs like invert. It's so gross. Mine are bad like that too because mine are so big. So like if I'm like leaned over it just is like that. It's like I know, or even on my back. Because you always see pictures of poor sky's doing it, but it's just like, ugh.

Starting point is 01:07:42 Like I didn't want to see what you looked like in outer space. Come on. I hate it. You are such a guy. He is. He is such a dude. Yeah, I'm a bro. I'm a dude.

Starting point is 01:07:51 That's what I'm here for. You don't like it? No. I thought I liked you on Twitter. Well, no, I didn't even like you on Twitter. I don't know why I did this actually.

Starting point is 01:07:59 It sucks because sometimes the things he says, I'm like, oh, you're so rude. You're such a fucking dude. You're such a guy. But then I'm like, I don't want a guy who's not like him because I'm not going to be as attracted to a guy

Starting point is 01:08:07 that's like softer. I like soft and femme. See, I don't. I'm like, I might want to hang out with that guy more and go to the bookstore and stuff, but I want to fuck this guy. I get it. Everyone I showed a picture of you too wants to like fuck you.

Starting point is 01:08:20 Like guys, girls. Yeah, everyone's like, oh God, he's so hot. Well, maybe Ms. DP over here wants to be on him guys. I'm actually scared of getting deep pizza. I was lying, but. Well, I was friends.

Starting point is 01:08:32 I know you. I would say more than Adam like that. We were like, because you, we had talked. Yeah. I've never like DM'd with Adam. I've always just deemmed with you and like it came a party. I think that if we did this just me and you would have got darker because I feel like

Starting point is 01:08:44 Lena is kind of like jumping in and like changing the subject on certain things when we're starting to get beat. Like the Keemstar conversation, you jumped in and like kind of changed the conversation when I was ready to like really. Because fuck Keemstar. Why are we going to talk about Keymstar? Because Kimstar is important. You love Keemstar and she doesn't really care for him.

Starting point is 01:09:00 I do agree his joke's not that great. Let's get right into the news. The fans. Is that what he did? He watches them every day. That's why I fucking know this. Oh my God. Ew. I like all the news guys.

Starting point is 01:09:12 I watch Philly D. I watch Scarce. I want to know more about your tour because I keep saying these videos retweeted on Twitter. And I'm honestly, like, really fascinated by the fact that you don't have professional dance experience. Do you? No, no. I know professional singing experience. No, no.

Starting point is 01:09:26 But you do it. And I admire that so much because I do love singing. Do you? Yeah, I'm not a good singer. Yeah, I'm not either. And we, I watched your shallow cover on YouTube about six times. Six. Oh.

Starting point is 01:09:38 That's good. That was good, actually. No, that wasn't it. No, I've done wrong. I keep singing the wrong song. I keep singing Tiago Silva. Yes. You sound good, though.

Starting point is 01:09:48 You sound better than me. So you... I love singing. I think I myself as Britney Spears. So you just decided, like, I'm... I'm going on to her. You guys actually have one comment. Wait, what?

Starting point is 01:09:58 You probably got to have the same therapist as Bernie Spears. I know, she went to a mental hospital two months after me. I was like, oh. Hot. I know. I'm like, we're on the same page. Yeah. Twinning.

Starting point is 01:10:06 Yeah. I liked your video where you recreate. I love her. Have you seen that she recreated a British's Instagram story? It's so great. No, that's awesome. Yeah, I love Brittany. I'm a beat Britney fan.

Starting point is 01:10:14 So when I go on tour, I just like pretend I'm Britney. I know Britney's a boyfriend. I used to be in the same gym and some every day. He still goes there, right? Oh. I know that gym. I know the gym. I hate that gym, fuck that gym.

Starting point is 01:10:23 Do not co-sign it. We don't mess with that gym anymore. Oh, okay, just kidding. Bad blood. But he's hot. He's hot. I love Brittany. Yeah, the Heartbreaktour.

Starting point is 01:10:31 com. Can you keep that in? The Heartbreaktore. com, we're in New York and Philly this weekend. So what are you going to go on to? to your show. I'm gonna, I'm gonna come. I will.

Starting point is 01:10:39 It's in October, right? It's not, okay. It's October. Yeah, I remember. What kind of venues are you playing like when you play in L.A.? The Globe. How many people?

Starting point is 01:10:45 Was it 1,500? 1500. That's crazy. Yeah, it's pretty good. We do pretty well. That's official. That's a lot more than like a lot of like actual rappers. Really?

Starting point is 01:10:53 I mean, I mean, there's rappers who do like, you know, massive shows out here and everything too, but there's a lot of rappers that are like pretty popular that still play to like, you know, 800 people. It's hard to get people to come out for sure.

Starting point is 01:11:03 But LA is different. And also I have a lot, obviously a lot of friends coming to L.A. Because everyone wants to come to see it in L.A. So, um... 1,500 friends. No, I don't. No, you saw my party. I have, like, maybe like 50 friends.

Starting point is 01:11:12 I don't have that many friends. Even to invite to parties. Like, yeah, just invite, like anyone in my phone. I'm like, everyone got me. I mean, you never met me. No, I loved you though. No, didn't be me before? I don't think so.

Starting point is 01:11:21 No. I met you at your birthday party. And then this is the second time I'm meeting. What? But we were talking. Even though we were neighbors for a long time. I felt like we were talking before my party because I don't think I would have randomly... No, we did. We did. We did talk.

Starting point is 01:11:30 But we talked about hanging out, but we never actually did. For some reason, I felt like I already knew you before that. You guys are kindred sisters. Yeah, I see a lot. And that's why I always scares me. Whenever I see a girl, I'm kind of like myself, I'm kind of like, oh, scary. Oh, I remember what happened. I had a therapist at the time, and he brought you up as an example in my session

Starting point is 01:11:47 because I was telling him out really lonely. And he was mentioning that he was watching some... They were watching you on Desperate House. Not a desperate house. some reality TV show they were watching your YouTube channel in and he was watching that show. Oh, Real Housewives. And so he was used, yes, he was like, oh, it's a, you know, YouTube can be really lonely. There's this girl.

Starting point is 01:12:06 Oh, but. So I was using you as an example to comfort me in my therapy session. Love that. And that's when I DM you was like, well, my therapist brought you up today. I know. There was some reality show and they were watching yourself on the reality show. Yeah, it was, Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Oh, that's exciting.

Starting point is 01:12:21 Yeah. And my therapist brought it up. It was like. That is cool, though. Yeah. No, it was, it was lame. It was, I mean, it was very flattering because I love the girls. It was the daughters of two of the housewives watching me.

Starting point is 01:12:29 They were like eating pizza, pizza hut. And they're like, so you just watch this girl eat. I love them, actually. I love it. So it was cool. But it was weird that they included in the show. I didn't know what was happening. I was like, and they put my name and my YouTube channel on there.

Starting point is 01:12:38 I was like, okay. Wow, that's what. It was weird. It was odd. But yeah. No, yeah, I'm still lonely and desperate. So at least you moved up. But you know, you're lonely and you wake up and you make content every day.

Starting point is 01:12:47 And that is admirable to me because I am an extrovert and I don't get energy or excitement or creative when I feel lonely and so when I see you doing that I'm like how the fuck can she do that? Yeah I'm actually like corny ass when I'm alone so that's why I do the Trishy Land when I'm by myself because all of a sudden I start getting like really like obviously if you have like a boyfriend you're getting like sex all the time and if you don't then you're just like corny a lot so I'm just like oh I can post for my

Starting point is 01:13:09 Patreon now. I think like the thing for me is that when I'm really upset or like when I feel like everything's going wrong my life is over this sucks like everything's bad like it seems like things are so bad that I can't like bring myself to get on camera and talk about it. When I'm depressed, it's like, I don't want to talk about it because it's such a bummer that I feel like I can't talk about or that nobody would want to hear it or that I wouldn't want to put it out there, which I would assume is how most people feel. That's why most people don't make YouTube videos. Yeah, you must because you put out content every day. I want someone

Starting point is 01:13:38 to like hear me because no one listens to me. So like when I put out stuff on Instagram, I want someone and people always think, oh, you're trying to get Jason's, it's not that. It's like, I'm trying to get anyone's attention. And it works sometimes. And I know that's like sad and pathetic, but like sometimes friends who haven't reached out for a while or reach out and like come over and stuff and I do it as like a cry for help so it's like it's more of like when I'm sad I'm really sad I just want people to hear it but do you feel like okay like when you're getting destroyed on Twitter by all these people calling you a racist and everything is that like are you comfortable just just crying your heart out talking about the fact that everybody hates you

Starting point is 01:14:08 or whatever no that's different because that that that's different because it's how people view me my sadness is how I view myself and hate is how people view me so I don't necessarily cry over it because I know that's not who I am okay it hurts it sucks but like I don't cry over that. Oh, okay. That's good. Interesting. I'm never like, oh my God, someone hates me. It's always just like how I feel internally. I feel like it only hurts me if I agree with them. Like if someone calls you like overweight, that hurts your feelings. Oh for sure. Because that's how you feel about yourself. Well, it used to. I think I'm like now everyone's like she's a fat bitch. And so now it doesn't like affect me. But now that people were calling me like what was the

Starting point is 01:14:41 after the Jason thing. I think people started calling me like a stalker and crazy. And then I was like, that kind of that hurts more because then I was like, oh, this is a new thing people are calling me. Instead of like fat, they're calling me like a crazy stalker. Yeah. I don't like me. I don't like when girls get called crazy because I just feel like it's too much. It's easy. It's a very easy. Exactly. What's happening?

Starting point is 01:14:57 Yeah, it's cheap and easy. But I mean, you need language that I can explain what the fuck is going on with these wild ass hos out there. People just say it for almost every little thing and then it doesn't even mean anything anymore. Yeah. Yeah. It is like the fat when you call someone like fat.

Starting point is 01:15:13 It's very just a low blow. Just like a crazy. Like she's crazy. It's just like a, okay. Yeah. I mean, those like the basic things that people go to is like fat, fat, old. Or. Crazy.

Starting point is 01:15:21 parents hate you. Poor. I don't mind the whore. Irrelevant is big on YouTube. People just call each other irrelevant. Yeah, he's irrelevant. Which is funny because most people out there just accept that they're really like not that

Starting point is 01:15:33 relevant. But in YouTube, it's like you have to be relevant. And if you like, if you used to get a million views of video and now you get 200,000 views of video, everybody knows it and everybody. You know, if you call someone irrelevant,

Starting point is 01:15:45 it's just like, ugh. Those comments never get me because I got all my subscribers by saying I'll make a sex tape at one million. So I'm like, I always know because we just always fuck all the time. You should do a full length like production one like Farah Abraham. That's what we never do. That's what we never did.

Starting point is 01:15:59 So people not only call me the girl who made, said I would make a sex tape at one mil, and now I'm the girl who said that and lied. But technically I have a ton of stuff out there so I don't care because I'm like, well, I make porn. But you should do a sex tape. I would do a sex tape with you guys, but I'm really bad at eating girls out.

Starting point is 01:16:14 That's why I don't do three sums either because I'm really bad. I literally don't know what I'm doing. Why don't we just break you in Sloan? Just do a top scene first. What is a top scene? I just like some cack. Oh. That's like so boring to watch, isn't it?

Starting point is 01:16:25 Or is it fun to watch? No, it feels good. Trust me. Why not? What? I'm doing it for years. Oh my God. I feel the same way as you though.

Starting point is 01:16:33 It's like, I eat pussy, but I'm like, am I doing a good job? I don't fucking know. I'm like, I just kind of like, I just do like a tongue. I don't know what's happening down there. We don't even film a lot of that anyway. Like if there's another girl, then you guys might eat each other out. But I'm not trying to have myself eating pussy on a fucking video. You eat out.

Starting point is 01:16:47 She's always eating out. Yeah. Yeah, but Adam doesn't want to be seen. a video of my head going, hell, no, that's weird. The first video I saw of yours was the one where you guys had a threesome with your friend. The one that kind of looked like you. It was really old. Emily, yeah.

Starting point is 01:17:02 Everyone always asks for that footage. We never filmed the actual threesome because back then I didn't do sex on my Snapchat. So we were just doing that for the YouTube video concepts. But there's so many like hot porn stars that we hooked up with that we didn't film. When I think about it now, I'm like, God, like, she could have made so much money off that. It's so crazy that we didn't just whip the camera out for 10 minutes in the middle of that. Because back then, I was literally just taking photos. photos of my boobs.

Starting point is 01:17:22 That was the porn I made. Right. That's like where I'm at. We were just fucking doing three sums because we wanted to. Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, threesome just scare me overall.

Starting point is 01:17:30 I'm just not that confident in myself to do a threesome. But that's why you might like the private snout thing because it's like less like real sex. Actually, that's a weird thing. We hooked up with this girl the other day and like then I like was fucking her for a little bit without filming and that like felt weird.

Starting point is 01:17:45 I'm like, oh shit. Like all of a sudden it stops being a porno. Yeah. It just becomes you're having sex. That's weird. I think that. Well, that's kind of like, I'm comfortable talking to you guys now, but like if we stop filming, okay, bye. Like, I don't like talking to people outside of entertainment, like performing.

Starting point is 01:17:58 I always feel weird when we're having like a really good conversation. And then all of a sudden we finish and I'm just like looking at my phone. And sometimes the guests will like want to keep talking and stuff. And I'm just thinking like, damn, bro. Like I just finished my fucking job. Like you're trying to make me work for free. What the fuck? That's exactly it.

Starting point is 01:18:13 That's what I think too. So I get what you're saying about that because I think I could probably perform like in a sex date better than I could like actually have sex with someone because I'm like, oh, it's performance. You go on stage and sing songs that you cannot sing and dance when you don't necessarily know how to dance professionally but you don't want to fuck. Yeah, because that's fun. And in my head, I think I'm amazing. No, you honestly, you're really good at dancing. That's why I was asking if you have professional experience.

Starting point is 01:18:35 Oh, no, no, I'm not. And I say that too because I like watch myself back or hear myself back. But like in the moment, I think I'm killing it. And then you hear yourself back like, oh yeah, I'm like not that great. But that is crazy. As opposed to like sex, I don't think I kill it with sex. I think I'm just down for everything and I have a tight vagina now. So I think I'm good at it because of that.

Starting point is 01:18:50 But I don't think I'm like amazing. I'm not going to like ride you like no one's ridgy before. I don't know what that does. I feel like good sex is when you when you could really tell someone's into it. That's like what makes it good. Did you just have a super loose vagina? Yeah. Really?

Starting point is 01:19:01 Well, not at the beginning, but I just, you felt like you just got drilled out too many times over the years and it's got loose. I didn't even know that really like happened like that. That's a thing. Yeah. I've been piping the shit out of her for all these years and it's still tight. How big are you?

Starting point is 01:19:12 Pretty massive. Over 10? Yeah. Yeah. Well, and it got tighter when I started working out. So it's like. Oh. Oh.

Starting point is 01:19:17 Actually, to be honest, it's like this. Oh, stop it. I was like, oh, not bad. No, I think just having multiple different sizes stretches you out more than one. So if you're the only one getting his dick, then then it's not going to stretch her out as much. What's the biggest dick you ever smashed? I don't know, because I don't measure. That's kind of hard.

Starting point is 01:19:33 You should. There was, like, a porn star that allegedly had, like, 14-inch dick. Then you were banging? I mean, not consistently, but, like, yeah, a couple times. Wow. Overry's hurt, just thinking about that. Yeah, that's why. So I think just, I was always going through different sizes.

Starting point is 01:19:47 every day. Sometimes I would have like three sex with like sex with three different guys a day. So like, yeah, it's gross as fuck. I'm, I was nasty as fuck. Thank God I don't get, have anything crazy because it's like I should have again miracles. That's why I believe in God. I was like I seriously feel like. Because he protected you from SDDs. Yes. I feel like I should have anybody deserving of them. I should have it. So that's why now I'm trying to be good and I'm like very I keep it close. I did have that random hookup but I think it was okay. What was the healing process like on your vagina surgery? Because that sounds insanely well I had I had a lot of other surgeries done the same time. So I had my boobs.

Starting point is 01:20:19 I had my lipbo. I had my arms, lightboat. I had a lot of other things done. So it all was just all painful. It felt like I was in a car accident. So I couldn't really feel the vagina because it was still so numb. So it didn't hurt. I don't remember that hurting as much as like, I think my boobs hurt the worst of anything.

Starting point is 01:20:32 And I got my butt done. My boobs didn't hurt at all, but I got a fucking vampire facial during my boob surgery. And that fucking shit killed me. Oh, I'm getting that tomorrow. It's that. I mean, they just went deeper because I was under. So like, it really burned. It just burns.

Starting point is 01:20:46 Well, I had a lift, so that hurts a lot more. So I have like these scars, which I show all the time. People are like, oh, your scars, but like people come to my Patreon for that. So I was like, I'm going to see my scars there. I had a dick implant and it felt terrible. Did you? Yes. How did it feel?

Starting point is 01:20:59 Like a popsicle stick being shoved down there. And what's an implant? Like, you had the injections or you have like it extended? They actually put an Oscar Meyer weiner inside my penis. I hate you. I hate him. Why did I even do this? I like, oh my God.

Starting point is 01:21:11 I hate you so much. I'm dating a 12-year-old guy. Actually. Well, Jason had the penis injections. Yeah. I heard that. What is that like? I mean, it worked, but it wears off. Like, it works. It's kind of like I would guess like a bager for like a week or two.

Starting point is 01:21:23 But he had, he went like every couple, every week. He did this just so he could pipe you down better? Yeah, because I like, I love having sex like at least six times a day. But he cared that much. He was like, all right, let me go get this invasive surgery. What a guy. I know. It wasn't just for the views, Tricia.

Starting point is 01:21:35 He liked you. No, but we hear. I would never do that for me. He logged it. That was like, I would not. No, but that's the thing about it is that when we talk to porn girls a lot of times, they're like, oh, these guys shoot up. They shoot up their dicks.

Starting point is 01:21:45 And I haven't really looked into it that much, to be honest. I don't know that much about it. But that's so crazy that he was doing it just to have private life sex. I know. Aw, now I miss him. Aw, what a guy. That was so sweet. That was worth the end of our relationship, too.

Starting point is 01:21:59 And I was like, oh. Would you have another public relationship? Yeah. Even if it means that it will only last three months instead of. Yeah. I've come to the terms. I'm not a long-term relationship. girl like I'm years my max usually so I'm down I'm down to yeah I'm trying to find someone to

Starting point is 01:22:18 date publicly are you on Tinder yes drop a comment down below if you want to date treasure but you have to be like he Hakeem. Huh? Hakeem would definitely date her. Isn't he married? Oh he loves her no another guy. Oh no I'm looking star. Different guy no you should date Keemstar though that's good idea okay yeah he has a wife it's fine no I don't even know if he does though he might not he might he might have a girlfriend or something he's not married so gross but I always go for ugly guys so Maybe we would work out. I mean, not traditionally attractive. I'll say that.

Starting point is 01:22:47 I would hit to see him actually like jump into the sewer and actually be like dating people in like the LA scene and stuff. That's, this feels like too much of a conflict of interest. I don't think drama alert might die with that. He'd get in trouble. I feel like he'd be the one to be dating like a Layla Ponds or something. I don't think Layla Pons would do that. I don't think. Of course not.

Starting point is 01:23:05 I don't think she's looking for Akeem. No, she wouldn't be. That's kind of like Jason with Tanna. Like Tanna's not looking for Jason, but a Jason's looking for Tanya. Akeem's looking for Lely Ponds. That's how the world is, though. But Jason, if Jason got a couple million more followers, then TAM would probably be down, right?

Starting point is 01:23:17 She'd probably be marrying him in Vegas right now. No, I don't think so. No. She was against it. That night, everything ended. She was very, like, I remember it was off camera. Dave was trying to convince her to go in the room to make it look like we were having a threesome. She's like, no.

Starting point is 01:23:27 That's the old Tanna, though. I feel like the new Tanna would probably date a 45-year-old guy. Well, there you go. Maybe they should date. Maybe not. But some guy. She just got married. Leave her beat, babe.

Starting point is 01:23:37 Yeah. Jake Paul texted me that day after they got married. Saying what? He's just like, hey, and I've never, like, texted him in my life. I was like, what the fuck? Really? Yeah. I noticed that at some point during the marriage that Jake Paul followed me.

Starting point is 01:23:47 So I had fallen back, but that was very exciting for me. Also, you guys went, didn't you? We did go. I actually got to the private plane in the morning, and I was like, where's Trisha? I want to see Trisha. She knew. The first thing I said, I was like, we know you're not coming, but here's an invitation. All I know is that we did not last as long as Jake Paul's parents.

Starting point is 01:24:05 That, like, his mom was still at the club when we left the club. We were too tired. Oh, yeah. We're fucking losers. We were in bed at 1.30. Oh, that's cute. No, we were in bed by 2.30. But either way, I felt like a loser.

Starting point is 01:24:16 We were playing Pokemon Go the whole time anyway, so it doesn't really fucking matter. Is that like a sexual thing? No, we play every day. What is it? We just Pokemon Go? The app? The game. They came out three years ago that people were super hyped on and we're still playing.

Starting point is 01:24:28 I thought you said something else. I thought you said like you poked each other. Oh, no. Pokemon. Pokemon, got it. Yeah, I definitely kind of felt like an old man when we ended up going home before everybody. That's why I love old men, though, because, well, fucking Jason.

Starting point is 01:24:39 I got the worst old man, the old man that asked 19. I love old men because they like to go home early. Like you, like, you know, fucking 230, let's go home. Let's, you know. He's like, I got to go to USC and get my underwear from both of you. The vlog, right? I mean, but still, you're still 46. What's the oldest guy who did it?

Starting point is 01:24:54 I did an 82 year old. I talked about this at the Keenan J.C. house. Like, yeah, I didn't, oh, I think he was 80. 82? What was that like? It was awful. I mean, we went on like a few dates.

Starting point is 01:25:01 He might be a T-Mobile. Was it just like a money thing? Yeah, he owned a couple casinos. I mean, not for me. okay this is my life because I was 18 I had no talent I was like maybe I'll be like like Anna Nicole but I couldn't do it 18 fucking a 82 year old yeah we went to like we'd go on dates like to eat spaghetti and he'd have like his caregiver with him oh my god oh my god he couldn't really have sex to be honest like I just like

Starting point is 01:25:23 sucked it a little but it didn't get hard holy shit but he was sweet he was sweet I just I just wasn't into it I knew I wanted sex so I was like okay that is so nice of you though yeah but I love fucking like there's like 65 year old men who fuck there's my favorite guys have sex with would you have an an Nicole then would you have held down the relationship if you knew that there were many, many millions of dollars at the end of the tunnel. No, because I knew there would, there could have,

Starting point is 01:25:43 I don't think we would have been married. I don't think it was like that, but I knew for him there would have been, for sure, because he was a really well-known casino owner. Yeah. I think he died. Damn, that's crazy. But I can't do that.

Starting point is 01:25:54 I can't. Plus, I think I'm attracted to broke guys. Every guy dated broke. I think I like that because I like having a little power. Yeah, see, there you go. Yeah. That's going to be the next boyfriend after me. I already have all the power.

Starting point is 01:26:06 Does everyone believe me? Do you think you do? Fuck no. I know he wears the pants. I like wearing the pants. I like to be the one that does. I'm wearing sweatpants, so. Oh, I can't see him.

Starting point is 01:26:20 We both make money, though. That's the thing. That's the thing. That is the weird. That's when people say power couple, that's what they're talking about. Yeah. People think, people use,

Starting point is 01:26:28 those are the comments that really pissed me off. Atlanta's just using it out of recalting money. And I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? I paid for all my own shit. We got our own money. People, yeah, people say that about, well, I mean, that was true. People said that about Jason because,

Starting point is 01:26:38 because I paid for all the vacations. But then as soon as he started making money, I got dumped. I was like, okay, bye. But do you want a guy that's going to buy you everything? Or you want to be the one with the money? No, no, he never bought me in jack shit. So, no, I don't care about that really. Yeah, I like to be the one with the money.

Starting point is 01:26:52 I want to be a share of mama. I hear that. What do you have a coming up? Wait, what's happening? What's happening? I'm wrapping it up. Yo, you guys look like something's about to happen. I don't know, I was just trying to figure out where he was going to go.

Starting point is 01:27:05 It's just been almost an hour and a half. And I was just. It hasn't been? Yeah. Where do you see? I have archery in an hour, so I have to go. Oh, see, there you go. Yeah, she got to go shoot around.

Starting point is 01:27:13 Okay, bye. No, no, I was just. The Heartbreak tour, everyone. The Heartbreak Tour. Thank you. A heartbreak tour. Thank you. When you spend $150,000 on music video, is it, in your mind,

Starting point is 01:27:24 is that an investment into the longevity of the tour in particular in terms of, like, the business? Yeah. Well, it's also just fun. And it's a tax ride off, but it's really fun. Like music videos are my favorite thing to do, so I just have a lot of fun doing them. And then, yeah, it's a tax ride off. And then, yes, for touring.

Starting point is 01:27:38 I kind of rationalize it all that way. Can we have a cameo in your next high budget music video? You guys want to be my music video? That'd be everything. What do you guys want to do? Like be sexy or what? Probably just strip, I guess. Strip?

Starting point is 01:27:49 Get naked? I don't know about getting naked, but maybe. You want to get naked? Dementatized. I don't want to demonetized. How are you going to put this up? Don't this get demonetized? Oh, I mean, it probably won't get monetized.

Starting point is 01:27:59 Sometimes it does. You'd be surprised, but no, probably not. Yeah, if you need a Armenian girl with a tattooed up boyfriend, just let us know. Okay. my god, I would love it. I always try and get like YouTubers in my videos. And like, no one really likes to do it because it's kind of... I've been trying to go to the movies with you for like three months now. You are so sweet. No, you're, I'm not just saying this. You're like literally the sweetest person.

Starting point is 01:28:18 You will DM me and be like, and like just DM me and like, hey, if you need someone. And like, during that time, it was like, fucked. I was really fucked. And I was just like, you are very sweet. I just don't ever want people to think because it's like, you know, I don't feel like I could just DM a civilian and be like, let's hang out. Because they're not going to treat me weird, but then I don't want people who have followers to think that I'm just trying to use them. No, I know what I mean. That's what you call the non-collotted up? I mean, what am I supposed to say? I hate you.

Starting point is 01:28:44 I hate this guy so much. I say civilian because all the porn girls, when they're talking about fucking a non-porn girl, they say civilian. I feel like this was the worst idea of this podcast. I'm like, I'm gonna get in trouble. I feel like I'm gonna get in trouble. You didn't say anything worse than what you said on the other one the other day.

Starting point is 01:29:00 No, I feel like I said way worse. I'm like thinking now. No, the Zach's saying one was pretty bad. Was it? Is that what his name was it? Was it bad? I mean, you were just saying a lot. Was I?

Starting point is 01:29:08 I know. I want to interview with that guy because he was just hyping you up the whole time. I'm like, I'm like, I want to interview with someone who's just going to be like, yes, yes, yes. That's the way that's the day long. Yeah,

Starting point is 01:29:18 but not. You're like, stop hyping you up. Yeah, you're the opposite of hyping your guest up. You literally made me want to fucking kill you because you're just like, Jason, you might still show it to you and I want to like literally punch you in the face.

Starting point is 01:29:28 Wait, what? Okay. Jason did what? I hate you. I hate you. Hey, Trisha, I also just want to tell you that my Pokemon Go vlog is out and it's doing very well.

Starting point is 01:29:36 Congratulations. Can I have your phone. The guests is here. I was just looking into it. Does Lennon like Harry Potter? That's one of the comments. Yes, she does. Okay.

Starting point is 01:29:44 I have a Harry Potter tattoo. Trisha Paitis. Yay. No jumper. It finally happened. Coolest podcast on the world. Check us out on YouTube, SoundCloud, iTunes.

Starting point is 01:29:53 Like, comment and subscribe. Chishyland.com is my naked site. Trishyland. Chicken land. Trishyland. Get it. Please get it right. Are you kidding me?

Starting point is 01:30:00 No, but you know the restaurant Nando's? Yeah. It's bomb. The original name was Chickenland. I don't know what to say Over a hundred years ago Thank God you're here I was literally I've walked out

Starting point is 01:30:12 You guys were fond Fernando It was named after Fernando Jason what was his name There's a guy I know Literally I thought you were turning And he was coming in

Starting point is 01:30:23 Oh my God imagine I was like you Because you won't give a look like I actually really want to engineer something like that in the near future Where we have some like Mori Popovich Like Tiley Jesse Raphael type shit I want to do some Jerry Springer shit

Starting point is 01:30:36 problematic and you just want all the smoke. I think it would be so fun to surprise somebody with their ex on the podcast. Okay, no, no. All right, I'm going to go get one of your exes. Oh my God. I don't think there's any of them that like me enough to show up. Same. Probably not.

Starting point is 01:30:52 No. Yeah, they're probably not too fond of me. All right. Bye, guys. Appreciate you.

No Jumper - The Trisha Paytas Interview

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