No Jumper - The Ty Fontaine Interview

Episode Date: May 2, 2020

Ty Fontaine gives us a glimpse behind the scenes of the Internet Money House, moving to LA to live out his dream, how his life changed very fast, his work process, work ethic, and it it to work with Taz Taylor. ----- FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 FOLLOW OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/529mn7of2HBKdLfrAMUzcK?si=rWVBWCuWSXeh0TFYb2P-dQ CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/nojumper iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/no-jumper/id1001659715?mt=2 Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/No-Jumper-198283650194402/ http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 and adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumbert. Coolest podcast on the world. And today I'm in here with my man, Ty Fontaine. How you doing, bro? What's good? Doing good. How you doing, I don't? Excellent to have you in here.

I know it's kind of early in terms of your career. But I have a lot of faith in you. I feel like you are bringing a lot to the table vocally. I appreciate that. Yeah. You know? There's a lot of different things that somebody could potentially bring to the table as a rapper. But I feel like, you know, your vocal styling.

Yeah. I'm saying it all this fuck. Your vocal stylings. No, I know what you mean. They're dope. Yeah, I try to, like, that's one of the main things I try to do, because, like, I feel like we're to the point now where people have, like, said a bunch of crazy shit,

like, you know what I'm saying? And that kind of thing where people, like, say crazy stuff, like, TJX6, or, like, people say, like, shit, that just grabs your attention. Like, that's one way to get attention. And then the other way is to, like, be on some, like, just make it sound different. You know what I'm saying?

So, yeah, that's what I kind of work on. What's your, like, early musical background when you singing as a kid or anything? I was, um, I was inquiring like sixth grade That's probably like the only thing I was kind of forced to do that shit Cause I don't know if it was the first time I ever sneezed on the podcast

Oh bless you I didn't even say bless you I appreciate that yeah no problem The other day my girl said gazoon tight after I fucking burped Is that German? It certainly sounds like it But I believe that you only say it after somebody sneezes Yeah

It's not a burp Oh she said it after you burped right I'm like that doesn't I mean People say that after you like I don't know You could say excuse me or excuse yourself or something like that, but Gazoon side is just for sneezes. Yeah.

Anyway, sorry about that. No, no, you got. Early musical experiences. So, yeah, I was in, like, choir in, like, sixth grade, but I only did that because, like, I was failing. And, like, she said you could do choir and, like, make up the grade or whatever. So I did that. But that was the only time I remember, like, singing, like, actually being taught, like, how to, like, use, you know what I'm saying?

Use your voice or whatever. But I kind of learned that, like, all in the past two years, like, year and a half, I've kind of learn how to, like, do all that shit since I've been recording. So you did it a little bit when you were younger, but you didn't really gravitate towards it? Yeah. Or, like, now that I think about it, like, singing in the shower, kind of, like, trying to emulate, like, shit.

Like, I was listening to, like, I didn't start listening to rap till, like, probably, probably about six, seven grade, but before that I was listening to, like, Sean Kingston and people like that. So, like, singing, like, that type of shit in the shower, like, robin thick, like, you know, weird shit like that. But so then one day you started to go through puberty, and you were like, man, I got to hear some people talking about rapping about some gangsters shit. Like, yeah, more, more, like, puberty and, like, my, I had, I didn't have any siblings, but, like, older cousins that, like, my mom's from the Bahamas.

So I had, like, people, older cousins come to the States to go to high school. So when that happened, like, my cousins were listening to, like, 50 and, like, Lil Wayne and shit like that. So that's when I kind of picked that up, probably, like, seventh grade, eighth grade type of shit. Yeah, it's crazy to think that that was, like, 50 cent to me, 2002 when he came out, it was like, you couldn't tell me shit about any other rapper. And I mean, I knew about Wayne before that. It's interesting thing that Wayne, his reign began maybe 2006, 7, when people started to really look at him, like he was the goat all of a sudden. Yeah, that feels so long ago. I know, right?

But for you, that was just like the music of your childhood. I'm like your earliest rap memories. Those were the gods of rap. Yeah, I like kind of like, there will be songs, like, Wayne songs that I'll hear. And, like, people would be like, this a classy. Do you know this song? I'll be like, I have to hear it. Because, like, I don't really, I wasn't in tune to, like, his career back then.

but like if I heard the song, it was like something that was playing, you know what I'm saying? Like, I remember it because it's kind of like nostalgic or whatever because that shit was playing. I remember one summer in New York where Amilly was like the only song that existed. I remember that too. What was that like, like 2008? 2009? 2009? Maybe 2008?

Yeah. So when did you start to focus on rapping? Like senior year, high school. Like towards the end of the senior year of high school, that was like 2018. I was playing, I was playing, I was playing sports. I was playing lacrosse. I was about to go to college for lacrosse and then I decided I didn't want to do that and like right when I was making that decision I kind of started going to the studio recording I kind of like picked like just like all the whim because I was working at a sneaker store back home. It's called Kickspot. Where are you from again? DC. Right. Yeah, but DC Maryland. Okay. But yeah, I was working at a sneaker store and they built a studio in the back and one of my good friends was the engineer there. So I was like, fuck it. I'll try it. He was there. It's like one of my best friends Brandon over there. But he came with me. And we tried to do that, and I tried to sound like Lil Wayne. I sounded like Little Wayne, like, not retarded Lil Wayne.

I didn't want to say it, but like that's how I sounded. I couldn't even get out no words. I was there for like three hours, didn't lay down anything. Didn't work. Yeah, but then I came again. I had some shit written the next time I came again and tried it, and it kind of worked. And so just from the beginning, people were like, thought they saw some promise? I would say by the time I dropped my first song, people, but that was like,

my first song was like probably the fourth song I made, or four, a fifth or fifth, song I made. Okay. And so then how did you sort of go about building your shit? Do you try to play shows locally or were you more just focused on SoundCloud? I was like because like in D.C., the stuff I'm doing now, it wasn't like really resonating because like the whole sound is like different there. Like if you like the DMV sound is like something like people, you know, and my, like, I learned how to rap like that because like when I was in the studio I saw like shy glissie used to come there, cute a fool used to come there. So like I was like being a little like assistant to the engineer because he was my homie. And like I seen them niggas like punching.

and shit, so that's how I learned how to rap and shit. But, like, the stuff I was listening to, like, I wasn't really listening to Cue to Fool and, like, Shagl's the only, like, at parties and shit, because that's what was playing. But, like, me, I was listening to, like, oozy and, like, that dumb thug and... It's crazy when you think about it, because if you really come into rap, talking crazy street shit and having guns in your videos and shit, there's, like, a built-in, like, automatic audience for that, to a certain extent.

We see it all the time. Yeah. And it's, like, if you want to do something that's kind of outside of that, you sort of have to have bigger hopes I guess right yeah it's kind of like it's easy not I'm not gonna say easy but like it's kind of like you can pop quicker that way like if you're in the right area like you can pop quicker by doing like if you a hoodnig like doing a hudnicka shit if that's resonating you know I'm saying if that's already bubbling but if you're trying to do something else and step outside of that and do something bigger and you know what I'm saying try to do a sound that's

gonna resonate with more people might not stick in your area first so you might have to like go like I went to sound cloud and was like getting repost from goddamn you know summers and autumn and that shit like back in the day not back in the day it's not even that like nine months ago it was like the last couple of years yeah for sure so that's how I was trying to get my stuff around but so how did you meet Taz was he's like the first person who actually had a name for himself that really kind of recognized what you were doing kind of like I had like little so like probably I'm trying to get the timeline right so last year um how do I mean no okay let's start again so I met Taz by I did the live stream side piece DT he did he

He does like a live stream. He still does it now, like, where he like listens to beats and like listens to like people's music and shit. So did that, submitted that. And he liked the song. He was like, this is the best song. He's heard on stream. And he sent me a pack like the next day. Did the pack, posted a snippet of one of them. And then like a week later, Taz probably DM me off that and just swiped up on that and was like, this is fire. I'm trying to sign you. Really? Yeah. So that's how I met Taz. But yeah, that didn't happen until like, that was October. right so you sign like a what like producer arrangement with him where he sort of brings you to labels after that fact no i signed a record deal through tis so it's through internet money it's 10k through internet money oh so it's with the 10k thing directly okay that's dope so then do you just like move out here and just start working all the time like yeah i was in i was in taz's garage until about what like a month ago when we moved to the like a month ago like yeah the spot that i seen you at the yeah that was i was that's the news source of the news that's the news Spotted, that's the...

That's the... That's the... That's where he's at. That's where I was at. I was in the garage, like, on an air mattress. And then Cody's room for a little bit. When he, like, was in back in Florida, I was his room in the air mattress and shit,

just, like, working. How many people, on average, are staying in the internet money house? At most, it could be like... 10? Yeah, it most it could be, like, 10. But, like, it's been, like... I've been there when it was, like, me,

just me, Tad's and 10er, like, one time. And then, you know what I'm saying? About at most, it's like 10. But is it like a hierarchy of like who has to sleep in the floor and who gets to sleep in a bed? It's really like whoever like claims the shit. Like if you've been staying there long enough and like people see you like if you're a couch like right now like Rio like I feel like people that people that watch this. Well no Rio like he's like he's on the couch like he's claimed that. But before when he first came in like when he first got into group, he was sleeping under the pool table on the carpet because that was like that was a sneaky spot.

Nobody knew about that spot. He grabbed the carpet and then got down when people started leaving. He was still there working. He grabbed the couch. And then when people came back from back home, they saw him on the couch and was like, okay, I guess Rio got the key. It's not claim your spot.

Nobody really has. It's like prison. It's like you have to like sort of climb the ladders of respect and stuff. Me neither really, but I'm part of seeing shows. Yeah, it's like if you claim that shit like, really if you claim that shit, you're getting it.

Right. I mean, I very much like admire Taz for being able to just like exist and do so well in that environment of having so many fucking people around because me being like 36, I'm definitely like, wow, I just. could not do that at this point in my life.

But when I think about it, when I was 22, I was living in a fucking ratty-ass BMX house with like 10 dudes sleeping on the ground. Didn't bother me at all. So that, you know, it makes sense to me. Yeah, it reminds me a lot of like, the house is like a frat house.

Like I went to college for one year. I went to St. John's and Queens. Last year I was up there. But yeah, when I was there, I was in a suite with like eight people and we all had like friends who wanted to visit and shit. So like I felt like, I already knew what that was about. But there it feels like nobody's doing nothing.

Like it's college. So obviously people doing it. working whatever working towards a degree but like here it's like niggas is working towards like money and shit like you know what I'm saying like have like we all have the same goal in mind like when working on song people are working on me spirit Alec they're like okay this song needs to be the best we'll get paid on the back and whatever but as long as these songs are great and we just keep working like everything's gonna come and that's what is it that environment 100% where like everybody is just 100% focused everybody like bro just making something

it's like it's a dog house in there like if you come in there not working like people that come there on a trial run like there's obviously people that have you know wanted to be in that money or whatever came through and maybe it didn't work out but whatever but when you come in there you feel it like everybody's working and if you're not working if you're like sitting around you see everybody working you're like even when we're smoking like chilling in the back people are making beats like you know i'm saying there's not really a time when nobody's working did you like show up and get into that environment did your music just get like a million times better immediately because you're just around all these people who really know what they're doing and know how to make you sound better

and know how to tell you good advice. I would say it's a mix of that because, like, there's some people that come in that environment and, like, think it's just going to be, like, the sauce. Like, the sauce is just going to come to them just because, like, Tad just touches it. But it's not that. It's like, it's a mixture of, like,

I came from a sports background. Like, I was going to, you know, go to college to play sports and shit. But, like, when you come in, like, it's like a sport, but, like, when you come in there, it's like a team environment, like you're trying to work hard. So the team can be good,

so you can be good, so you can be the best you can be. And when you come in, like, the only thing I have to do is work until I reach my goal type of thing. Like, you're gonna, you know, get better and shit. Like, and everybody's on that type of time. But if you just sitting back, like, you're not, your music's not going to get. If you're recording once a day when you have a studio for the whole day, like, you're not. Compare it to sports in the sense of like, okay, if you want to be a great athlete, a huge part of that is like, yeah, you need to be naturally talented and you have to, like, study the game.

But it's just, a lot of it is just sheer hours. You need to just train like a motherfucker. And do you kind of see music? like that in the sense of like I'm gonna get in the studio and make 10 songs today because I know that if I do this every day for the next couple months then by the end of those couple months my songs are going to be a lot better than when I started our work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard that was something like I heard growing up all the time so like that mindset is like exactly what you said like I'm going in there like even if people like I got in there like I got in

there like the first day Taz flew me out probably not the first day second day because I we didn't do anything the first day second day we went to the studio it was Ian Session He didn't he was uh I think they had pushed it back the times got mixed up so he was a little late So I got in there was able to record and like in that moment I could have done like the first song the first song was pretty good everybody's like oh okay And like taz wasn't back yet he went he came get some got something to eat and I could have been like okay maybe I'm done like Ian's about to come. This one song's cool, but like, you gotta be okay. And then when Taz got back, I probably made about three songs. And he was like, oh shit, okay, cool, you want to make some more? And then, you know what I'm saying? Like, I feel like you just got to work. Like, if he sees you,

he's on the same type of time. Like I said, everybody's on there. Everybody there's on the same type of time. I'm just around a good team. It's interesting though, because whenever I talk to artists, young artists, a lot of it comes back to the decision of how much of your time you're going to put into working on your shit versus how much of your time you're going to put into promoting your shit and like from your perspective you seem like you're not like out here doing it much bullshit like you know we've seen so many rappers sort of come up who that music is okay or in some cases even just straight up good and then they but they basically augmented by having this like crazy-ass social media personality do you think about that and you think about like this version of

yourself you have to present i don't really like try to present nothing like what i am is me like You know what I'm saying? Like whatever I show like is me 100%. But like you said, like people do bullshit just because like they're trying to get attention. When I want attention, I can drop a song because I have so many songs. You know what I'm saying? Like that's where it gets to like, okay, you could do some, you know, other shit and like, you know what I'm saying? Maybe you want to be a personality. Maybe your whole brand is like Instagram. It's not totally music. Maybe they're like half and whatever so you got to do that, whatever. But like my shit is like music. So why would I go do some other shit when I could just make music? And if I'm not, you know, pop and I want to be just keep dropping shit.

You know what I'm saying? Definitely. What's up in your new project? I tried to click on it on Apple Music earlier. I'm going to be honest, and it didn't load in the car, so I had to listen to the project before the new one. Okay, so... Is it because it's not fully out yet? Yeah, it's not fully out, so it's probably up there,

or whatever, 1800. That's probably why it didn't show up. See, there you go. Yeah, yeah, so that one... That one's just an accumulation of all the songs I did from, like, October to, like, January, probably. And we really picked the... No, one of them I made...

One of them is kind of, like, a different vibe, and I made it more recently. like I took shrooms for the first time and made that shit off shrooms and it was ridiculous so explain oh actually it's out it's called moments it's not out on soundcloth oh okay yeah how did the shrooms affect your worldview bro

I felt like prince bro I felt like prince like I was like I don't even know but like my engineer like he kind of like the song was kind of backwards when I recorded it so like I recorded like the verse and half the verse and probably like half the hook and then like the verse and like another part that was catchy so we put as the hook but like it all

It was more ideas were coming than like a full song And I like heard like little snippets of ideas Right And then like he he was like I recorded a lot I recorded more than the whole song too And there was a point where he was like Okay you're done you're done

And then he just let me go for like 30 minutes texting me like come back up Came back up I heard this shit and I was like yo And that was the only song I made that day And it was the theme song for like that whole day I mean there's a way that you go about viewing the world Before you do psychedelics And then there's a way that you view the world afterwards

I think. And it obviously depends on the dosage and how deep into it you get. But I mean, there's a certain extent to which my earliest experiences with drugs were kind of like epiphanies, like certain drugs. You know, like the first time I ever did like ecstasy, I had never felt that good before, you know? It's sort of like broke my mind a little bit. Like that's possible.

Like, whoa, it's possible for me to be this optimistic. And I sort of like saw a vision of what I could possibly be or what I could do with my life that I hadn't seen before. And so that sounds like kind of what you went through there. Yeah, it was kind of like, it was exactly that. I'm not even going to lie. Like I was like, because before that I was on some like totally rap shit. Like, and it was like, well, everything happens for a reason because like that shit like Tanner.

I don't know if you met him when you came to house, but he's one of the producers there. He's working hard of shit going to blow up soon. But yeah, he, he both did it. And he sent me, I mean, he didn't send me. We were just sitting there and we was listening to, oh, he got Travis Scott's playlist for when he made AstroWode or something shit like Yeah, it was Astro World, like his inspiration playlist. Really? Yeah, I think Alex Tumei, like, someone gave it to,

Alex Tumay gives us someone and someone gave it to it to it. It was like the playlist that inspired Travis got shit. Secret information being passed around the music industry? Yeah, so we were listening to that shit and it was like, cool. We were on our little, you know, and then he was like, yo, we got to this one song. He was like, yo, I made a beat like this. And he played the beat and I was like, yo, we got to do this now. And like, Taz was like, he came out.

He was looking at us. He was like, what are you guys? And then Denzel here, he came out, I think, and he was like, what are you guys talking? I was like, no, I have to do this right now. And it was like, like, I was on a mission. So did that shit. And like, yeah, I don't know. I felt like Prince.

Like, I was like, I didn't know I could do shit like this. It was like, it's like an 80s vibe type of song. Like, and I kind of like put a twist on it. And it was like, it was a wave after that. Like I started making more songs like that occasionally, you know? So. Right. I don't know.

Yeah, I don't know. Is it like a competitive environment in terms of the producers as well? Because you go like a bunch of artists that are trying to, They're trying to do the best they can. I would say more for the producers is not that competitive because everybody's working. So like somebody could do the melody. Somebody could do the hi-hats. Somebody could do the bit.

It's just as long as everybody's working. You know what I'm saying? Like as long as like, you know, it doesn't have to be like dog-y dog. Everybody can eat together. But as long as you're working, as long as people, if you mooch and like if you see people like, you know, not doing nothing for the whole day and then come like write one I, write when one of the artists records and like, oh, let me just do the high hats? Just not saying nobody does that. But is there. Do you see like six dudes sitting?

on their laptops with headphones on, just like furiously hacking away and making beats in the same time? It's all a vibe. Like, it's more like where I might be in the studio recording. They play beats. I don't like any of them. They come and make shit from scratch. Might be like three of them come in.

One person do the melody. One person do like the hat. And then one person do, you know, 808 or whatever. And it's just like all kind of messes. It's like nobody's like, yeah, let me. It's usually like, oh, you did the last? Okay, go. Go ahead.

You know what I'm saying? Being in that environment all the time, though, do you ever have to, like, get away from it? What do you do to escape it? When I get away, it's more like I'm bored because I haven't been doing this for too long So like before this I was in college I was in high school

I was playing sports and like nothing like Oh, I wouldn't really want to be doing anything else Like when I go away Taz has told me to take a break At least three times Like actually like yo you should take a break And then like we'll go maybe like a day I might not record And then he'll be like either I'll be like

Yeah I'm trying to record And it'll be like no you shouldn't record And I'll be like I'm trying to record Like okay record or it'll be like Yeah I don't got to be like yo I don't got no more tie songs like you got to make some more tie songs and I'm fuck it I bet you know what I'm saying like I don't feel like it's never like too much of a because this shit doesn't feel like a job to me you know what I'm saying I'm still I still have a lot to

talk about I still have like a lot different sounds to experiment with and it doesn't really get boring it hasn't gotten boring yet so definitely does it feel crazy just to like be developing an actual fan base because like I see the you definitely have like a small army behind you when I'm looking at the YouTube comments and shit It's going pretty crazy. I'm not even going to, like, I didn't know, like, looking at other people, when I was probably, like, a few months before this when everything started to pop, like, I thought, like, I had maybe had, like, 2,000 followers. I had, like, consistent, like, 20 people comment on my shit. I was like, oh, yeah, I got a little squad, like, sweet.

But, like, brads is different now. Like, people will really, like, go to bat for me. And, like, I never, you know what I'm saying? Like, it feels like, just like, just thinking about back to sports, like, it feels like they're my team. Like, I just, like, you know, I might be the captain or whatever. I just don't want to let them down. And they're all working for me. It's like they're working hard, you know,

commenting and like spreading the word about me. So it's like I just got to keep producing. It just gives me more fuel. Definitely. We were talking about this earlier, but so what's the attitude on drugs in the internet money house? No, no drugs. It don't happen.

No drugs. The mushrooms are an exception? Shit that comes from the earth, you know, like weed and like, you know, it's not, mushrooms ain't like, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Yeah. That's natural. Yeah, but none of the pills, none of the lien,

none of that will be accepted, tolerated. If you see you with that shit, Molly, E, whatever, it's no good because, like, there's no room for that. Like, and all that shit is going to either make you lazy or just, like, you can't think, and, like, nah. Yeah, it's crazy because, like, when you think about the artist that Taz has been around that I've been around, it's like, there's just so much evidence that is just right in front of our face that's just the kind of thing that we absolutely got to avoid is, like, if you're going to have an artist who's, like, kind of your responsibility, you know, and it's not like Taz's your fucking dad or anything.

but if he's going to be sort of looking over you and you're getting into shit like that, it's just, number one, it's just like a bad thing to be getting into from his perspective as a person and number two, like criminal liability that we've seen in the case of peep, that could definitely be an issue. That shit is not right.

Even for me, like you said, Taz is not like my dad, but he kind of like, I'm not, he kind of like is, because I'm barely like, I'm an adult, but I'm still like a kid, you know what I'm saying? So, and Taz, my dad was my lawyer for a little bit. He's a lawyer. like he got my contract situation so like my dad and tabs were having conversations like you know what i'm saying so he kind of gave him the keys and was like yo this is my damn dad's a lawyer yeah he's a lawyer

what kind of law does he does uh he does uh estates like he gets wills together and shit and then he's like a court appointed guardian right so like he uh he's like he's there for people that he's there for people that um might might not have any family and they have like they can't take care of themselves so shit like that so it's interesting because it's like entertainment law and music industry law is like a totally different thing. Totally different beast. He probably got planning connections. You know, so to reach out to and shit like that, huh?

Yeah, for sure. We got everything situation, everything good to go. That's dope. You miss D.C.? I don't, I miss it, but I don't want to go back until, like, I'm lit. I don't really want to go back until, like, I'm the biggest artist from my area. Really? Yeah, that's why I feel like.

I want to go back and, like, be able to, like, go to my high school and kids, like, geek the fuck out. Like, that's when I want to just, you know what I'm saying? because I don't feel like people have started to reach back like I had a couple homies from DC that rap that I knew like Money Marr is what I knew him before yeah you know he's dope yeah yeah money Mar I knew before um before I like really popped like we were friends like I met him like last year early last year he came to like he came to New York one of my so I went to high school one of his friends and like we went to college together so like we were we're cool in it and we you know we became friends but

money Marr young man he's my homie but like sure young man yeah yeah Yeah, yeah. But, like, nobody, like, really was, like, supporting. It wasn't necessarily them, but, like, people from D.C. wasn't really fucking, like, DMV wasn't really fucking with my, you know, music. It was more, like, when I saw my listeners, it was more, like, Los Angeles. And, like, Miami was one of the top ones. And, like, you know what I'm saying?

It was all over the place. Never, like, really D.C., though. So I just want to go back when I'm, like, all right, like, you're going to fuck with me now type shit, you know what I'm saying? Is that the vibe? You feel like, you have to make it, like, on the internet before you could be popping locally? You definitely don't like because most of those people like in that scene have been it's the other way around they get popping locally and then it's a struggle to get popping everywhere else. You know what I'm saying?

So it's to each his own. Yeah, I hear it. What do you what do you actually like listening to these days? I'm listening to okay my top three songs have been party next door in the Rihanna song. I forgot what it's called the party next door and Rihanna song. the song Little Dirk just dropped Love All

And then Whatever The song of Brent Fires project I forgot But those have been like my three Just in rotation Other than like my shit I only have like a couple songs

I'll be listening to now Some of the greatest voices of our generation Rihanna Bill Dirk I mean hey I'm not even like being sarcastic Like Dirk Dirk in terms of like His actual delivery

And like what he does on track It's pretty incredible Yeah he says a lot of shit And like the way he says it And, like, his has melodies, too. And, like, he's, like, he can do the no-auto shit, but he can also, like, go crazy with the melodies. That's what, like, on the all-love song, he's doing both.

Like, so that's why I like to listen to it. Most of my favorite Dirk songs are the ones where he says things that I, like, like, I think about what his lawyer probably thinks of him saying that. And I'm like, damn, Dirk, you should not be saying that. Yeah, you don't give a fuck. That's why people fuck with him. That's a fact. That's a fact.

On some young boy shit, like, the people that don't give a fuck, you know? Young boy talking about having herpes on a track was the craziest thing ever. I didn't even know that. He must have been so in the zone that night that he said, I got the herpes all in my blood. He's talking about that really said that. I mean, he can't get mad at me for pointing it out. It was like he did say. Yeah, he'd be talking.

I mean, that's just his life. This is his real life. Hey. You're not holding it back. I respect it. I respect that too, man. That's kind of tight. I don't do that.

Like, if I got herpes, I'm going to come on here and talk about it. Hey, baby, just herpes awareness. I'm going to keep that shit. For sure. I'm not telling you guys. I mean, shit. I'm kind of jinks of myself here. No, you got, you got, like, youth that watch this, maybe, like, tell them,

yo, I got this shit. Like, yo, don't do what I did. You don't want this shit, you know what I'm saying? That would be so fire. Yeah, herpes awareness. If I actually, like, made myself a sacrifice and, like, aired out my own. Maybe that's what young boys doing. Shit.

Oh, damn. Yeah. Herpes awareness. Okay, but so what do people get wrong about Taz and about the Internet money lifestyle and stuff in terms of like stereotypes. There's always like little weird beefs with people talking shit. People think Taz is a dickhead, obviously, but he's not. It's just like he says what he wants to say and doesn't really like care.

Like he's not like a lot of people in the music shit are like suits and like they're politically correct. And like they don't want to hurt people's feelings because they want to work with them. Like we don't like he's taught me like, yo, just go with your like whatever you thinking, just go with your gut and like just tell people how you feel. Because at the end of the day if you're bullshitting, like that's just going to like, it's just going to fuck shit up. Like it's either gonna make you like in your whole relationship fake and the whole thing's gonna be like it's not gonna be a solid relationship You know what I'm saying like you might do business or whatever but it's not gonna be solid like you got to be straight up with people so they can trust you and you know I'm saying just build that because the fake shit is just not it

But yeah people think Ted's the dickhead he's just being real a hundred percent of the time and like I don't know people say like the internet money is trying to like I don't know I've heard like they try to get you into slavery deals or like the deals there bro everybody in this music shit, nobody likes their first deal, bro. I don't think anybody in this music shit really likes the first deal they get. And like when they figure it out, when they figure out what they could have got or figure out what they think they should have got,

it like fucks their mind of. It's like, he didn't give me that? No, you got to learn business, yo. It's just simple as that. So I think like, that's really the main thing. Nobody's getting no fucked up deals. Nobody's getting fucked over. Everybody's eating.

And Tazen not a dickhead. He just says what he wants to say 100% of the time. It's weird though, because does it feel like there's a lot of like young kids who are just like that is their actual dream because it seems like sort of attainable is to get signed like in that money because it's not like getting signed to like fucking OVO or something it's like they've seen a lot of people come up from the fucking underground and like come through that and all of a sudden be huge. It's like it's bro it's like Taz is good at what he does because like he keeps it real and like

if he likes something he's going to do it he's not waiting for other people to like oh these are the statistics on it you know this kid's pop he's not waiting for like to hear other labels talking about it before. before he moves on it, no, it's like, yo, if he sees you working, if he sees it, it likes the music, really? Like, he's gonna fuck with it. You know what I'm saying? That's why it's obtainable because, like, he sees, we have conversations about SoundCloud kids all the time. Like, these little kids that don't think we're talking about them, bro, like, we're talking because I don't really, like, other than like, you know, the people I said, like,

I'm not really listening to goddamn mainstream shit. Like, I'm, like, other than those songs, like, if I'm going to SoundCloud and listening to something, I'm listening to God Autumn, I'm listening to people like he's posted. I'm listening to, like, the new shit, not like the shit before he's doing the same thing. He's trying to figure out was next. So like, you know, all these kids, like, they want to be that because they see, they've probably been in like a group chat with the kid who's, you know, gotten into the internet money or, you know what I'm saying? They maybe, you know, had conversations with them and DM or whatever. It feels obtainable because, because it is. What's the policy on hoes at the internet

money mansion? Yeah, so, you know, you know, just don't bring no crazy bitches through, you know, just don't bring nobody who's going, you know, post the adie, nobody who's going, you know, try to, you know, do some sneaky shit. You know, vet the girls before, you know, make sure they're, you know, stand-up women. Man. Some girls, though, that have seemed great to me in my life have ended up being the worst ones by far, though. You live and you learn.

Yeah. But, like, just don't bring any, like, ticking time bombs to the crib, bro. They're all big up. They're all digging time bombs. Yeah. Yeah. Nah. But, yeah, so you don't got a girlfriend or none?

Mm-mm. No. No. No time for that. I mean, look, it's not that there's no time for that. I feel like behind every man is a great woman, obviously. Like, I've just seen that through my life. I wouldn't be opposed to it, but the right girl hasn't come, you know.

We'll find her. Yeah, we'll find her. She's out there somewhere. So what do you got in the works? What are you planning? Oh, yeah, is the quarantine slowing up whatever progress you've been making in your career? Quarantine is not slowing up anything. Just more of the same?

Yeah, it's like. Trapped in the studio. trapped in the studio like because the stuff I had you know shows I had like I got booked for a couple festivals and they probably won't happen now but it's later like fall and like late summer so I'm being hopeful but like my whole plan was to work this whole time because I don't know when you start going on the road you might you know I've heard you don't have that much time to work so I'm just trying to get everything I can done as much quality shit that I'm just sitting on waiting to just unload pause um yeah so it really hasn't changed anything I'm still at Taz's crew like if not every day

every other day. Like, you know. Oh, so you got your own spot too? Yeah, yeah. I'm in an apartment north-time. I live like five minutes from here. Oh, for real? Oh, that's dope.

Oh, sick. Damn, I didn't know that anybody had their own spot too. That must be nice, actually, to be able to have your own element too. It's just a lot better. Like, it doesn't necessarily feel like work, but like when I was there, like, it got to the point. It wasn't too. It was probably the last week I was there.

It was like when I was getting it up, like, I just didn't want to work. Like, I just was like, I just don't. Yeah, like, I wouldn't want to live in the same place. I do podcasts. Like if my bed was over there, that would be kind of weird for me. And there was people, like,

there was a point when I was actually sleeping in the studio, you know what I'm saying? Like for my first couple weeks and like that, well, that was different because I felt like, okay,

this is the dream. Like, yeah, I got a studio to my, let's like, it's weird because like when you first come out here, like just being an artist

who's just super hungry to do anything, fuck it, yeah, like sleep in the studio, sleep on the couch, do whatever. But then as you get more and more established, it's kind of like,

you go through this process of realizing like, oh, I'm going to be more effective if I find a way to sort of balance my life to be able to rest and then get back to the music. You know, like, whereas at first, you're so thankful to even be in that environment that you're just like, I'm going to just go crazy,

12 hours a day. Exactly. Like, yeah, so, you know, my own place, like, really just gave me, like, my own spot to think. I don't have to, like, I love those guys. Love them to death. Don't get me wrong. But, like, I just have my own space.

It's just me and my mask. And, like, where I can just go into my room and I hear shit. Like, I don't have to hear no beats going on. I don't have to hear people like yelling and laughing all the time. I can just sit back and just cool it, put on some Netflix, put on some fucking rainbow sixies, play some video games, whatever I want to do. How's your toilet paper supply?

Yeah, it's pretty good. I just ordered a bidet, tushy bidet. Really? We're going crazy. Wow, those are probably like sold out and backed up and shit. When I was on the website, it was about a week ago, shit supposed to come in next week. Nothing was on backboard. It just takes, like, I think they make it first.

I don't think they have it made. I think they make it first. They make it to the shape of your ass. No, no, no. I don't know. You can't send them a mold. It's like a grill. Yeah, you got to measure.

You got to measure your, yeah, yeah. They get the spray. Just right. No, I'm going to be honest with you. I've been to a whole bunch of different countries that have bidets. And for people who have home who don't know a bidet shoots, it's a little thing. It shoots water up into your house to clean it off. I've been in so many different countries that have it, but I never used it.

Well, I'm not even going to go deep into it, but it's a great investment. For you, for you, for your, you have a lady. You know what I'm saying? If you do, you know, booty stuff, it's a good investment. You keep you clean, you know? And regardless, you just want to be clean. So, but a day. Maybe I'll get one.

Yeah. If the toilet paper, you see it. Like when you use toilet paper, like the little flakes being, you got to use wet ones. When I was using toilet paper, I was using wet ones. So, yeah, the bidet. And sometimes, it might be a little too graphic, but sometimes, you know, I'm waking up.

I'm drinking coffee. I might have to take a couple of shits. And then it's like you have to wipe your house a couple of times. It's like you sort of. And then it's hot and it's a pub. But yeah, all that, you know. Why not just have a jet? Yeah.

Yeah. Smout. Pugh, phew, phew, phew. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Okay, so, yeah, you just supporting this project that you're working on right now? 1,800 project comes out the 24th of April.

I have another single, I dropped the first single off of it last Friday. It's called Fetish. Another single drops this Friday. And then we're putting moments is already on SoundCloud. We're just doing a video for that right before the project dropped. So, you know, just had a bunch of stuff lined up. upshot videos and just seeing what this does. I definitely like, right now we're like,

it's so weird now that think about it because like when I was in, when I was just releasing stuff myself, like it was like, okay, I have these eight songs. Let's go. You know what I'm saying? But now it's like, okay, before we really set these songs in motion,

I probably had like 200 songs that I had made. And we're like, okay, this 12 is what we're going to use. And we kept a little, kept a couple, you know what I'm saying? Heaters in the, in the vault. And then I made probably like at least like 200 more and then now we're like probably like two to three projects ahead we already have like another one kind of sketched out and then we're working you know what I'm saying so it's kind of weird just like working ahead because like that's what we're that's what the whole music industry is doing

I guess but like that's kind of weird now that I can't like drop shit like right when I want to but yeah hey respect that's the learning process yeah man there we go hey I appreciate you coming on man appreciate you having me this time of social distancing yeah yeah this is uh it's been cool because I don't know if you remember you posted like one of my first videos yeah so this is like full circle man full circle yeah sure in what we're doing out here shout out internet money shout out no jumper shout out tie shout out high tide 1800 all that shit 1800 project 24th what is 1800 come from that's the street you grew up on or something it's like so high tide is like a little group like me and my me my homie made it's like when the tides at its highest the waves are

at its biggest and like most powerful people back then were saying oh yeah we'd wave people say it now but like we just wanted to come out something different and then 1800 is like a number that means forever if you fit 18 on the side it's the infinity sign underline and then the zeros are like forever you know i'm saying so it's word away forever type shit kind of like a snowman yeah kind of like a snowman it's like a three-headed snowman yeah a snowman already has three circles no but it's like if you take the 1800 it's like a line and then three heads and then the snowman body all right type on to saying, No Jumber, coolest podcast world. Check us on YouTube, SoundCloud, iTunes.

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