No Jumper - The Uzzy Marcus Interview: His Brother Killing 2 Girls on IG Live, Beef with Bris & Lavish D

Episode Date: February 15, 2021

Adam sits down with Uzzy Marcus for his first ever interview, where he talks about growing up in Sacramento, his relationship with Mozzy, being in and out of jail at a young age, rap beefs and reacts ...to the terrible incident his brother was arrested for in Vacaville. https://www.instagram.com/uzzymarcus_/ ----- CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5tesvmDS8h50LkjnSAWMOs?si=j6sJD6DkR4mk5NZZWnlK7g FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/nojumper iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/no-jumper/id1001659715?mt=2 Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFICIAL http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No Jump Bert coolest podcast in the world. And today we got the talk of the town, Uzi Marcus, in the building. How you feeling, man? You know, I'm happy to be out, man. Bless to be here to come fuck with you, man. No, I'm happy to have you on the show. Honestly, like, I've been just listening to a lot of the music over the past couple of days and really getting tapped in.
Starting point is 00:00:17 And it's like, you know, every now and then, I'm a rap fan my whole life. Every now and then you get reminded that there's a whole shitload of rappers up north that you just don't even know about that. There's so much good shit going on. Yeah, it's just, it's. It's a part of being underrated, you feel me? Like, it's underground music to the core, so it's there, but the streets hear about it more than anything, you know?
Starting point is 00:00:40 100%. Yeah, because I was like, when I first searched him on YouTube, I'm finding, like, all the stuff you dropped over the last year or so, and then as I go back, I'm finding videos from eight years ago and shit like that with hell of millions of views. So that was very interesting. Yeah, but it's like back and forth in and out the system, shit like that. That's what I figured that the long.
Starting point is 00:01:00 gaps in between were probably because of, yeah. Yeah. So, okay, but where are you from exactly and tell us a little bit about your upbringing? Sacramento, California, Oak Park. So you're originally from Oak Park. That was where you were born. That's where I was born and raised there. So I came up, you know, with two brothers, mom and pops, everybody in the streets.
Starting point is 00:01:20 Like, that's my upbringing. But, you know, people try to find around and do certain things to find a way to get an advantage in life. So that's what music coming at, you feel What was music like the first thing That you saw that you felt you had some potential at Or that you believed in yourself at? As a kid, you do hell of shit Right
Starting point is 00:01:39 As a kid, you think you're gonna be a basketball player So you had those phases too? Yeah, but you think you might be good as a kid But when you start to get older, it gets serious So you gotta, it's like you gotta kind of find yourself Yeah, whenever I see a young kid who's like Really, really good at sports And that's their whole life
Starting point is 00:01:55 It's like, that's dope But at the same time I'm kind of worried for him because it's very hard to make that last in the long run. Hell yeah. But it's a challenge, though, whatever you think you good at, push it. So did you grow up, like, just knowing that where you were from was a pretty legendary hood,
Starting point is 00:02:10 or did it feel like that back then? Yeah, it's something that you lived with. You grew up with it's instilled in you. Like, it don't never go nowhere because that's your habitat. Right. As a human being, you put somebody somewhere for this many years. You can expect that kind of person.
Starting point is 00:02:26 You can't expect anything else, But, you know, people try to, like, pull themselves out of the hood all the time, but it don't happen for everybody, you feel me? No, definitely. Everybody don't got that advantage. What were your parents' perspective on all the shit that was going on around you, though? Were they really trying to keep you out of trouble and stuff? Yeah, but it's hard when you don't got the right things to, it's about where you at. So if you want to get your kids out of trouble, you got to get them out the way and seeing different shit.
Starting point is 00:02:53 Right. It's the habitat. So when you go to school, you do everything every day. It don't matter what you want your kids. kid to be they seeing street shit, gang banging all this shit going on every day. So you don't really got no opportunity to really see anything different.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Right. So it was like front street, just everywhere you looked as a kid you would just see crazy shit going on. And you're figuring out, you're putting two and two together like, oh, this is how this shit works. And like basically, were you figuring out shit out of crazy young age? How to survive? Because it's real.
Starting point is 00:03:22 The motherfuckers don't care about nothing. You know what I'm saying? It's a roof. It's environment. So once you place yourself in this type of lifestyle you got to watch everything you got to be smart you can't trust nobody you got to move a different way definitely so growing up though what kind of music were you listening to and was there a certain point where you started to get more interested in the music that was really talking about all the shit that was going on in the streets because that that's like the crazy ass thing about the bay versus L.A. is that I can't think of any like big L.A.
Starting point is 00:03:52 rappers or whatever who really talk about shit in such specifics because it's kind of like everybody's either like worried about getting caught up or they're worried with the cops or etc it's like up north for some reason you drive seven hours northern everybody is just talking about shit like you can kind of figure out what's going on everywhere by listening to the rappers I mean what it is is it get to a point where it's like you're your own voice so you just you choose whatever you want to say and express your music, but at the end of the day, it's all entertainment. Because if I feel like if people could paint a picture
Starting point is 00:04:26 of you and put it out into media, then you could paint whatever picture you want to. A lot of the shit motherfuckers be saying, don't be accurate. But whatever you say, that's what the people are going to get. You're the voice. So you get to create your own picture at the end of the day. That's a part of being an artist. So when you hear motherfuckers talking about hell of crazy
Starting point is 00:04:48 shit, you might think it is, but that's not really that's not what's going on you feel? But it's a weird line though too because the most gangster motherfucker on
Starting point is 00:04:57 earth who really has killed a hundred people is not going to want to say I killed Johnny on 15th Street and you know like even they're going to have to kind of like
Starting point is 00:05:05 obscure the truth right? Hell yeah. Hell yeah but like there's a way to express yourself always there's a way to get some message across but sometimes it'd be
Starting point is 00:05:14 people's youth when you're growing up young and shit I feel like your music always progress when you're young you don't give a fuck. That's how everybody is. When you young, you don't care.
Starting point is 00:05:23 This show upcoming, you don't care. You know what I'm saying? Your respect for motherfuckers ain't really there yet. You know, you're growing up. As a young, me, I was young. That's how I felt. I can give a fuck. So you can say whatever you want to say.
Starting point is 00:05:36 You can do whatever you want to do. As long as you're not incriminating yourself, then you don't got shit to worry about. For sure. And if you know what's going on, then you know what you're talking about. You know, if you know that you're good, then you can talk about whatever you want to say. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Because, I mean, that's one thing that stands up to me is, like, you would have a hard time being a rapper up there if, you know, talking tough, if you're not about it. It just seems like it would be very hard to, like, really pull it off because you just hear about people getting pressed and putting all the situations, right? As a rapper, you don't go to jail. You don't go do everything like that.
Starting point is 00:06:06 So it's certain situations when you can't hide. And there's going to be you, where you're going to have to show who you really is. And where your heart is at? That's when everybody going to see whatever you're talking about is you, is you that hard? Is you even willing to stand up for yourself because niggas be push you.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Niggas go to jail, get beat up, rode up, all type of shit. And it comes to you quicker. You don't even got to do nothing. People are going to be at your door knocking at your door like, hey, you don't got to wait for shit. So you got to wake up every day in battle mode. It's harder for a nigga that rap. It is.
Starting point is 00:06:38 It's way harder because you don't get to play the background. Everything is you. Everything is you. You're the top dude in there. Everybody want to get to you. Right. So when you were growing up, though, like, I don't know what age you were that you
Starting point is 00:06:51 that Mazi became a thing but was he the first big rapper out of your area? For sure. For sure. For sure. There was a lot of rappers that I grew up around this shit but he really put he really put the city on the map and probably one of the biggest ways ever
Starting point is 00:07:05 I could say but there's rappers that came up out of second shit but the way that he did it is it's a nigga from every neighborhood that could pop right now because of that it wasn't never like that. And Mazzie blew up talking about the shit that was, you know, You know, when we think about Sack and all these rappers up there and everything,
Starting point is 00:07:21 like he kind of like embodied that spirit. Yeah, of course. Of course, he was the beginning of a big thing for my neighborhood, for show, because it gave a lot of niggas opportunity to be hurt on a different level now. So it's kind of like, it was kind of like it's a little cheek cold for us because a lot of niggas from other places be mad because they don't want to be, they wish that they had the opportunity. At the end of the day, it's opportunity that's going to get you where you need to be.
Starting point is 00:07:48 So that was a big thing for us coming up. But that was my people. So it was like it was a little bit more different for me. I was rapping since I was younger with him and shit. So I did a little bit of time. I came home. He was already taken off. So I'm like, all right, let me just do this.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Right. That's when my first shit came. My first shit I dropped, seen millions of views. So I'm like, I'm going to stay consistent with it like that. Right. Yeah. Because like, okay, so when did you actually come out rapping? Like, did you do jail time and then come out?
Starting point is 00:08:18 and start rapping or you were doing it from before that? No, no, no. When I was younger, my pop, my pop's and my uncle, they owned a record label back in the day and shit. So I grew up kind of in and out of the studio, but I never really, I never really did it. I was like a kid, I used to do other shit, like other hobbies and shit,
Starting point is 00:08:35 but once I started trying it, it was natural to me. So I'm like, all right. And it's the feedback you get. When people around you start loving your shit, everything just start taking off, and they make you feel like you gotta call, you gotta do this. That's what you're good at.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Yeah, like at a certain point, you start to feel like you're kind of a representative, all the people around you. Exactly, yeah. They can't rap. They can't make a video like this that's going to get all these views and stuff. Exactly. And it's, yeah, it's bigger. It's bigger than that. But you started feeling it right away that people hated you for being the voice of your neighbor, right?
Starting point is 00:09:04 You know, whatever you do that you do good at it is going to be people that hate you and love you, regardless. You got to be ready for that. If you're not ready for that thing, you sign up for the wrong career. You did. Like, motherfucker like you, you got to be ready for me. motherfuckers who don't like you. Every day, everybody got what they, you know, the line between the lovers and the haters, you feel me? You got to just focus on doing what you do for your people, though, for the people who fuck with you. Definitely. Them is your fans. Them is our fans. We got
Starting point is 00:09:31 to focus on them. So that song, Kickdow from about five years ago? Is that one of your first videos? Yep. Yep, that was one of my first big videos. When I was younger, though, I was 16. I already shot my first video and shit. So it was like a low-quality video, but it was cool, though. It was back when niggas had long t-shirts and shit long chains and shit. That's what so. Niggas is a different, it was a different fashion back there,
Starting point is 00:09:55 but that shit all on there, like it could date all the way back up till the day, though. Right, but so were you, did you get into the rap game talking street stuff, and is that what, made you gravitate towards it?
Starting point is 00:10:06 Of course, I mean, it's the lifestyle that we live in, so it's like you got, it's kind of like, that's what you're gonna really rap about the most. Like, if I was a party nigger
Starting point is 00:10:17 or I used to do this or that, then I might have been a party rapper. It's you got to go with what's natural for you, you feel it? No, I totally feel you. Okay, so you're seeing a little bit of success. Like, how far did your career get in those early days before you got locked up the first time or whatever? Like, you're talking about 5 million views back then
Starting point is 00:10:35 and what we weren't really getting too many views. It's like 15. Something like that. So that was good. That was the hottest song in the city, Northern California, for a minute. And so I was still grasping it, though, because it's like you don't really get it. You think that it's going to be that easy.
Starting point is 00:10:54 But you know, you got to be consistent with shit. Like, you've got to keep going. And I was just happy with the little street, little city fame. Right. You know, that little bit of shit. If you just consolidate the world to the small area, it's like you feel like, fuck, I'm famous as hell. Everybody knows who I am. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Like, like, and then it gets old after a minute. That's when you really get to see how far you're willing. to go. A lot of niggas don't really make it from outside their city with their music. So you can go viral and then just be, after that, you know, you didn't gain enough of a following. So I just started wiggling more, trying to do more. But when you get, when you go to jail and do time, it's like, it's a double-ass sewer. Like, you go get your mind together, you come out with hell of music. It's for surely like, for surely like so easy to come out with 10 albums when you just came home. But all this shit you miss when you was doing videos,
Starting point is 00:11:45 Versus everything like that is money, everything you're missing. So you got to stay here. New rappers popping up. All of a sudden people are interested in them. And are you sitting there in jail thinking like, God damn it, they were talking about me that way like a year ago, you know? I feel like if you're not all the way famous yet, you got to keep working every day.
Starting point is 00:12:03 There's no reason for you to be chilling, you feel I mean? You got a lot to do. Definitely. So what was that first case for and how long you go in for? My first case when I was a kid, it was a murder. Oh, right. Okay, this case. So that was the first case.
Starting point is 00:12:14 So that was the first one, right? Yeah, it was a murder. So I ended up beating that case, though, quit it after three years. So when I came home, it was crazy because you don't even know if you're going to make it home for shit like that. You feel like me? But I was like. So they held you for three years? You were fighting the case.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Yeah, fighting the case for three. Holy shit, that is actually insane that you fucking got locked up that young for that long. I was in June and a half for a year, like a year in a couple months. And when I turned 18, they sent me to, uh, you know. county jail. And so like, you know, you always hear about rappers who like go to jail and then they just basically get turned out even worse where they just all of a sudden
Starting point is 00:12:53 know all kinds of more people and all kinds of crazy shit. No, with me, I came home and I readjusted. Like I didn't. I was chilling because I knew how it was. Like you can't just think everybody your people. You can't think that when you go, when you're in the type of situations everything fall apart.
Starting point is 00:13:09 So you can't just go back and go surround yourself with the same things that led you to failure. Because jail is failure In my mind That's what we're trying to avoid So motherfuckers They talk good about it
Starting point is 00:13:22 And they put it on the pedestal But it's really some shit that really It's boot to your shit It's all niggas in there I hate that shit I used to just walk outside myself Like bro I hate all y'all I'm trying to go home
Starting point is 00:13:35 But like when it comes to young people And stuff it's like a lot of times it feels like They either have to be the toughest motherfucker Like having guns all the time Shot somebody etc Or you get locked up a long time and those are kind of like your main ways of getting respect in a lot of areas. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:13:48 but see really, nowadays it ain't even about respect. It's about being smart. Don't nobody give a fuck about nothing. It's ruthless out there, man. You got watch out for everything. So you got to watch out for everybody. Once you place yourself in this environment, like I said,
Starting point is 00:14:04 respect only goes so long before hate come and everything. Mulfucker could respect you but still hate you. Motherfucker could say all this shit to you, but feel a way so right and because i bet you like during that first case that we're talking about i don't know how much you really feel comfortable talking about with it but i'm sure you had people saying crazy shit about you because of course of course but as a as a kid it sometimes like it will affect you
Starting point is 00:14:29 as a kid but when i go through what i go through i learned that you feel me like you got to know the truth of who you is and what happened but that's something anybody could take and they can't have their opinion about it you can't be mad about a motherfucker being opinionated because they have a right today on opinion. But then there's certain things that that's proof and things and shit that happens. So if I'm innocent for something and I got released and it shows that that's, that's my backup. Came home. So I'm going to always, I'm always being innocent. That's how I think in my head because at the end of the day, I'm just a young nigga trying to make it out the hood. So you got to think about it like this. Anything you end up in, that's a mishap. Everybody else don't think of it like
Starting point is 00:15:12 that. It's a whole different type of forces on the side, different forces on the other end, like motherfuckers who don't like you before this shit happened. They already hate you. So anything that happened, that's something for them to glorify. But you're in a situation where you're locked up, you're doing these three years. You got people talking about crazy shit and everything. You can't really defend yourself the way you would want to, right? Because you can't fuck up your case. Yeah, but people, people, a lot of people love me. Like I said, you got one side of haters and you got side of support. So I never lacked that support. My motherfuckers might not be there helping me, but motherfuckers who know how I get down, they already know what suck.
Starting point is 00:15:46 So you can't really go with what the haters say. Right. So did you feel like when you got home from doing those three years that you had like a whole different interest or energy around you? Like everybody was like, oh, fuck. Like they probably counted you out at a certain point, right? Yeah, of course. Hell yeah. It was like they seen the ghost.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Like when they seen you, they was like really shocked out. I thought you was dead or something. Right. Like it changed the whole vibe. But it's like it's cool, but then it's not cool because it's wasted time. And there was shit that I had to learn in between them times. So when I came home and felt like you, you're smart when it comes to like everything else.
Starting point is 00:16:20 But life, you gotta live it. Certain shit gotta happen, you feel me? Like before, when I got locked up, I was 16, so I barely learned a lot of shit, nigger couldn't even drive, like certain shit. Like, I wasn't doing a lot of shit. So I got locked up before a lot of shit. And when I got out, I couldn't focus on that
Starting point is 00:16:37 because I was just worried about rapping, staying out the way. I can't live a regular life, you feel me? Right. I mean, did you feel like being in prison, though, that kind of fucked you up in the head? Do you think it sort of slowed down your development in a sense of like all of a sudden you're not used to being out in the regular world? Your development of life, for sure, because you're not living a regular life. Yeah. It's like you're frozen in time for a few years.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Yeah, you are. Exactly. Exactly. Motherfuckers who do time, they say that when you come back, you're that age with what you left because it's a whole different lifestyle in there. Definitely. And were you like, how did you feel about the idea that maybe I'm not getting out? Maybe I'm really going to be in here for decades. I just thought about what I would have to do to give my appeal,
Starting point is 00:17:16 what I would have to do to show my innocence, and I ain't going to stop fighting. Because you can't give up on yourself. Definitely. You can't. Whatever the situation is, you've got to keep fighting. There's motherfuckers every day that come home off of appeals, and you might have to sit down for 15, 20 years,
Starting point is 00:17:32 but the truth will come out. You'll be all right. Definitely. So you get home from that, and was your plan all along to just go hard with the music and just sort of... Yeah, but like I said... You weren't thinking about working at Walgreens.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Nah, hell no. Hell not. When I came home, I already had my own little plan in my head. Like, I came home and I dropped my first song and it already went up. But after that, like I said, I got like kind of caught up in the mix. Like, I didn't care no more. I was like, I'm all around the Bay Area. I'm in sack.
Starting point is 00:18:00 I'm going to jail in the Bay Area. I'm going to jail and sack. Stupid shit, though. So you were having a really hard time staying out of trouble after that after you got out? Yeah, because it was like I was a young nigga still. I was trapped in time. Like I was trying to party. I was trying to go cut up.
Starting point is 00:18:15 Like what the fuck I'm gonna sit around for and I just did all that time? Right. But it's like I said, you gotta really, you gotta sacrifice for what you really want though. If you wanna work hard and you want success, you gotta really, really stick to that shit.
Starting point is 00:18:30 It's a challenge every day. It's a challenge every day. So you got, you got out for a little while and then you ended up catching another case? Yeah, I got out for a little while, came back, what I come back for? I think I was in San Jose. They had locked me up in San Jose for some dumb shit.
Starting point is 00:18:48 I was in the front of the strip club. I was getting into it with somebody, and they just took me to jail because I had something in my pocket. I think it was a knife or something. And they took me to jail for the knife. Really? Yeah, they booked me. I got fucked up luck. It'd be dumb-ass shit happening to me.
Starting point is 00:19:04 I feel like when you go to jail once, it's a plague. So when the cops pull you over and start? your name pops up. Your name pops up. So whenever they put me over, I don't even give a fuck up. I'm not on probation. They're going to search my shit.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Right. And I mean, the cops got to hate you at a certain point just for being well-known as a rapper. Yeah. And they don't like me at all. Yeah. They don't like me at all. They just pulled me on my house and shit in front of my kids, all type of shit. When?
Starting point is 00:19:30 Recently? Yeah, that's how I was just when I went down for. They was tearing shit up. They came in the car for about eight hours, talking about my whole life. I'd just be trying to get the process. I said so over with like. Right. But them motherfuckers be like,
Starting point is 00:19:44 they hate a motherfucker. They hate the motherfucker. Because you could go home. They're doing the job either way. So it's like if they're at work for 10 hours, they can just fuck with you for 10 hours. That's 10 hours of work for them. The shit that happens with us affect us forever.
Starting point is 00:19:56 But, you know, that's certain people that they got like, they got you on that high sheet. Like they don't. But I think it's more of a career thing too because when they come around to us and they see anything nice So they see, feel like we're living better than them, then it's a different thing, too, like that. Like, they really spite with people sometimes.
Starting point is 00:20:16 Yeah, and especially these days, too, where it's like you got rappers who are, or excuse me, you got cops who are kind of young. Like, they're not totally out of touch. Like, they know about rappers getting famous for talking about street shit and everything. Like, it's not like they're some old grumpy-ass man. Like, it used to always be with the cops or the rapper. It's like, no, these are people that could look at you. They might have went to high school with you. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:20:37 So it's my age and shit. Right. They don't like telling me their age when I ask them. I was like, how old is you? They be like, don't worry about it. I'll be like, that's because you young. Yeah. And it comes from a, you might have fuck one of their bitch back in the day.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Whatever. It's so much shit that you don't know. In fact, I don't see. I didn't know people that was every career. Like, I can look back now and see hell of people do different shit. Right. Like, everybody got a different type of lifestyle. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:21:05 So this whole time that you're getting locked up and stuff. Well, actually, how much time you ended up doing for this little knife situation? Was that some serious? I got out. They owe army for that shit. And then they ended up dropping it to a misdemeanor. That shit wasn't serious. But so you ended up doing any more longer bid after that? Or it was just kind of bouncing around?
Starting point is 00:21:23 Yeah, they just put me on a probation for that shit. Okay. But that was like some bullshoulders and probation. Then after that, I went to jail in a sack, I think, for some syrup. Really? Yeah. Bullshit charges. arrested for that anymore, man.
Starting point is 00:21:39 You haven't heard about somebody getting caught for that in a while. It's like if they don't like you, they're going to take you for whatever. It just depends on who you is and see the leniency. But you don't really get no leniency when they pull up your, because they can pull you over and see what your charges, like your charges was. It don't matter of you, if you innocent, them charges got dismissed or nothing, they're still going to come up. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Definitely, yeah. And I mean, if they could tell that you've done like a bunch of time, they're definitely thinking, oh, he must be up to. no good. Exactly. It don't even matter. Definitely. It doesn't matter no more. So this whole time, though, when you're getting, you're doing all this stuff, it was like a very long time period that we're talking about, but how often
Starting point is 00:22:18 are you talking to Mazi? Did you actually sign to Mazi at a certain point, like sign a contract? Not like, how are we doing shit? That's my bro, so he's sharing, he's sharing the platform with me. So, whatever I could go with it, we can go with it. But for the most part, I make my money and shit, and we all,
Starting point is 00:22:36 I give managers, certain people percentages, but bro, he just, he let me do my thing, like, you feel me? Really? That's big bro, so he ain't really sweat and shit like that. He wants to see a nigga win. Yeah, are you one of the only artists assigned to him, or does he have a part of two?
Starting point is 00:22:50 We got a lot of artists on the label. We got a lot of people, a lot of people. But bro, bro really give it to a motherfucker to see what you're going to do with it first. It don't really, it just be a little bit of help or boost to see what you're going to do as an independent artist, really. Because you've got to be hungry yourself for anything.
Starting point is 00:23:05 No, for sure, yeah. Everybody get that little bit of help. you feel I mean and then you see what you do with it from there but right now I ain't really I really I really did none of that as far as like legal shit you know and just been working working working definitely um okay so at a certain point like I don't even know what what order should go with us in terms of discussing people that you've had issues with in terms of in the rock game um because I noticed that you know obviously Mazi and Lavish D have this this issue for all these years I'm sure they still have an issue
Starting point is 00:23:37 but you've put out multiple tracks about him. Is that in any way coming from, is that something you felt like you had to go in on because of your association? No, I mean, it's a completely separate thing. People just, people, I ain't going to lie to you. I would never even made no song or nothing like that. If motherfuckers didn't come at me first, you feel what I mean?
Starting point is 00:23:54 I didn't never really, because it gets to a point where you just want to be like, man, it's another half to the story where you want to talk shit. But it really be, I don't really be tripping off that shit. I just be trying to show bars. Like, at the end of the day, with me is like, the fans want to hear what they want to hear. but on top of that
Starting point is 00:24:09 I feel like we so much harder as a section than any of the niggas so I'm like he kind of if a motherfucker bring up your name is your right to respond or not you can't give a fuck about
Starting point is 00:24:21 what the world think but shit I got charged up I was like all right fuck it the nigga wanna talk shit we could talk shit so you're not mad you look at that as an opportunity
Starting point is 00:24:28 like somebody says something about me I can make a hard song yeah not even opportunity I just felt like he set itself up you feel because he can't rap for shit that's how I feel like he's But he bootsy at rapping.
Starting point is 00:24:39 So I'm like, there's no way that he's going to be able to outwrap me. So he set itself up. Like, you got to pick your battles, I feel like, right? You want to go into a little rap battle or somebody. You got to be able to beat the motherfuckers. You can't read this. Right. You're weak as shit.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Although this song was a little whack. Okay, but when you get into somebody like him, are you actually seeing, like, what's the fan reaction like? And, like, does it really, do you think it benefits your career? Or does it sometimes feel like I'm just, tussling around doing this shit and nobody really cares outside of this box. With me, with me, I don't really look at it like nothing,
Starting point is 00:25:13 you feel me? Because it's not really, I don't give a fuck about this shit. I'm going to still work hard regardless. But it's really their version of trying to get some recognition to me because I got all type of shit going on. I'm going to be able to climb my ladder regardless. Motherfuckers like that don't have no ladder to climb,
Starting point is 00:25:31 so they're going to do whatever they got to do. They see a nigger on a rise. They see everybody might take a shot at me here and there because I'm on the rise right now you got to understand it especially the city and sack is like you know people said people always that shit became like a thing
Starting point is 00:25:47 motherfucker would bring up your name and that song but for the most part it's all in the team and like I'm gonna keep it real I don't be worried about none of them niggas are I'm pretty sure I don't know if they worried about me or what but yeah I don't give a fuck I'll be in my own lane with it but
Starting point is 00:26:03 rapping wines like I say them niggas can't fuck with me that can't fuck with me. None of them niggas can. But you don't worry that that kind of thing is going to turn into a street situation? You're not concerned about all that. I'm not concerned.
Starting point is 00:26:14 I'm not concerned with them niggas at all. I wouldn't even say that there was ever a threat to my life. And then, like, them niggas is rappers. So the rappers, the rappers, the niggers you really, that I really don't worry about. Like, I don't worry about no rapping-ass niggins. All them niggas gonna do is cry and cry and cry on the song. I don't care about that shit like that.
Starting point is 00:26:36 I feel you. Okay, but I think I did get it out of order. So did the lavish thing pop off because you were beefing with Briss early on? I don't know. That's something you always have to ask a person that, because he, you know what I'm saying? He might have initiated the shit what he said in my name. But you, I guess it's some type of reason for him to try to say something.
Starting point is 00:26:58 I don't know. But I don't know for a fact that they weren't friends like that. Oh, okay. They were in two different sides, so they never really, two different neighborhoods. But like I said, a motherfucker would use whatever crush they can to try to get some views. The clout shit is serious. Right. But I always stuck to my own guns.
Starting point is 00:27:15 I never, you know what I'm saying? All my shit had been singles. Like, I don't really, I might work with some niggas from my camp that I could really say that I'll fuck with, but I don't care about none. I don't care about doing those songs with nobody. I feel you. So, wait, how did the brisk conflict start? Like when you guys started making records about each other and everything like that. Where did that come from?
Starting point is 00:27:35 I mean, it's just kind of like, from my shit, it was like, it was just, I think a niggas being the same generation, same shit, motherfuckers just, it's always like two sides. And somebody just, something, something happened along the way where a motherfucker felt like they really wanted to go against me. So, but I didn't really give a fuck about it. But didn't you drop the first song? Yeah, but it's like, before, before people got to understand this, just before any of that, it's already like, dumb shit, motherfuckers just be on. Just songs here and there and shit that you're saying that motherfucker don't got to say your name, but you're saying all this shit,
Starting point is 00:28:15 but you're talking shit, you feel I'm doing. I just did it because it was like, I just, Instagram, I see Instagram like that, and I'm like, all right, these niggas being hell of funny and disrespectful. So if I, if I, if I, that's my humor. Sometimes my songs be my humor. When I rap, I know I'm laughing because it's going to make their skin curl, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:28:36 I feel you. That's my sense of humor. That's my way of like, because you got to understand, people use social media to do anything nowadays. So I know that I'm good, but motherfuckers irritates you on that shit.
Starting point is 00:28:49 Everybody gets irritated. Right. It's everybody's on Instagram one day like I'm done, you feel me? Like, fuck you, you feel me? I didn't really care about it at first, but when you see something to start to build up,
Starting point is 00:29:00 you'd be like, all, fuck it. And they'd just be laughing. It'd be all laughing jokes for me after that. I don't give a fuck. But you really don't give a fuck. Like this isn't the kind of thing where all of a sudden you're paranoid. You're looking out the window and shit. I know myself I would be a little paranoid about beefing with all these crazy-ass rappers.
Starting point is 00:29:13 What you got to understand is you, when I already grew up in the environment, I've already been through this shit before. So I'm not worried about motherfuckers who feel like, get in line, nigger. It's a whole bunch of motherfuckers that hate me. So go stand in line. You all the way at the end. Right. Like you all the way at the end, nigg, it's motherfuckers who've been not liking me.
Starting point is 00:29:31 Right. I'm gonna stay doing my shit regardless. Right. I mean, we've heard this conversation. a lot recently in regards to Chicago and shit in terms of people speaking on people after they pass. You definitely didn't take your foot off the pedal after Brist passed. Like what's your mentality on that? Honestly is because like it's like it's it's it's the mindset of niggian. I don't like you understand people keep shit going by talking shit too. So it's like. Rather than nigga rest in peace and maybe we will but you all shit you all want to keep. It's like it's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. Like, 11 motherfuckers came and dissing me after that shit. And it's like, nigga, y'all just, I don't give a fuck about none of this shit. But it's like, you got to, you got to push it away.
Starting point is 00:30:17 It's just really a way of my way of, like, ending the shit. Because it's a got to be an end to it. But the motherfucker ain't going to end if you don't make them in, make them quit. In the rap game, you got to make a motherfucker quit. You got to jar rule a nigga. You got to, you got to make it, like, not, you got to make them not want to keep going back and for it with you because the motherfucker won't stop coming for you.
Starting point is 00:30:41 But so from your perspective I mean when I see that kind of thing I always take it as like a taunt to basically his people's as in I'm going to say this and if you don't do anything about it then your pussy. Is that your mentality? Hell
Starting point is 00:30:56 nah sometimes it just rhyme with the verse I saw the guy I'll be smoking and I'd be like oh shit that shit wrong with this. It got to go like that. Sometimes Sometimes that just came to a nigga mine. Interesting. So, yeah, I mean, but when you get into these things,
Starting point is 00:31:12 is there, like, a limit on how far you want to take it in a song? Because, like, you guys say shit that basically would be considered, like, self-incrimination by a lot of people in music. But sometimes, like, you know, I always wonder how this stuff doesn't spiral completely out of control in terms of the music. Well, what I would say is that when you know your rights as an artist, everything gets approached from an entertainment level. You know, I don't, I'm not worried about this shit.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Like, we got lawyers and people to prove that I work and I do this shit for a living and that I, that I, that I, that I, that I, that I, that I, that I, that I, that I can't accuse me for anything that they think that they got besides physical evidence and you are all right. I should be all right. Have you? I know that I know that I'm not worried because I ain't did nothing. Have you had them tried to use your lawyers against you in court? Hell not, they cannot. Really?
Starting point is 00:32:01 They cannot. I hear about all the time. I got the best lawyers, bro. Every time I go to jail, I got a lawyer. I don't, I don't. ever since I was a kid I always made sure that that's what I get don't even send me no money nothing I don't go give me a motherfucker lawyer and I'm good because you got you got to understand people getting washed
Starting point is 00:32:15 because they don't got enough money to get good representation so but I don't know other people's situations be different but my situation's been blessed enough I ain't had to deal with none and shit right I mean those lawyers get expensive though right yeah hell yeah but but I I feel like I might I feel like my lyrics ain't as bad as a lot of motherfuckers like I might talk shit but I don't never go overboard with it like that Do you feel like you always
Starting point is 00:32:39 Have to sort of gravitate towards that kind of content To keep people interested Because I've seen some other videos that you did That was much more like positive Talking about where you're at Your life and stuff like that I've seen you try to go in like a more Humble direction
Starting point is 00:32:52 Like what's your thought process on that? See what it is is just The fan base that supports you That's what they want to hear Then they're going to gravitate towards that the most It's the streets It's people that don't got no positive mindset So just how it go.
Starting point is 00:33:06 That's a big part of your audience, though. Yeah, that's the audience. That's the audience. That's the majority of my audience. So when you drop one of these songs, motherfucker might gravitate towards this because that's the life they live more in that area, my fan base.
Starting point is 00:33:19 But I feel like anything could go up as long as you keep pushing it, as long as you keep pushing it. It's just, like I said, some things come natural and you got to go with what? The numbers don't lie. So you got to go with the numbers
Starting point is 00:33:31 and you've got to gravitate towards the gangster shit. At the end of the day, that's an art. It's gangster rap. It's a art. It's things that people make millions off of. So if that's what I'm good at, then I'm going to stick with that shit. No, I mean, that's the thing that pisses me off when you see the lyrics getting brought up in court and all that
Starting point is 00:33:48 is because it's like, how are you going to not allow these guys specifically? For some reason, young black men aren't allowed to, you know, rap about some shit in a more abstract way. Like, some guy can make a movie about violence and about what's going on the hood, and nobody takes it literal, but for some reason, if you say whatever, then a lot of judges and shit want to take it and treat it like it's a real statement of fact.
Starting point is 00:34:11 Like I say, that shit is like, that shit. You got to be like, some people I would say that when they rap, they ask for it. You feel me? Like, I can't be saying some crazy shit. But there's a line.
Starting point is 00:34:23 They're in line between anything. You feel me? Like, if you know that you're good, then you could disrespect. If you want to disrespect somebody, you could disrespect them without, discriminating yourself.
Starting point is 00:34:34 But from people's view, people, from people, the law, the court system view, they have some money, they're going to use it against you. Everybody else might be like, damn, that's crazy, but it's not what you think it is. I got you. You know what I'm saying? Like, he's not what you think it is. A motherfucker don't be talking about no crazy shit like that. Nigel might say fuck this person or fuck this person, but shit, you say fuck anybody.
Starting point is 00:34:55 The motherfucker can say fuck you right now. Yeah, saying fuck this person is a lot different than saying, I did this to this person. Exactly. Exactly. The motherfucker don't swing that way, though. I don't try to hit that type of subject or topic and what I didn't did to a motherfucker at all because I ain't did shit.
Starting point is 00:35:14 I'm just doing my music. That's all I do. That's the image I want for myself. I don't care about. They're going to think that I need a million things if they hear one song because it's gangster. That shit sound hard. I feel you.
Starting point is 00:35:28 So you just recently did another 30 days because you were like a lot of people probably found out about you for the first time over the course of the past few weeks, but you were locked up at the time. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I got like probably like 8,000 followers since that month and shit has been rising, but a lot of people find out about me every day. Like, I feel like I'm a growing rapper, so my shit's definitely not stagnated right now. It's fucked up, but when fucked up shit happens, it's kind of like a thing, it's a wave of shit, like people free you and reposting you and doing all this shit. Definitely. So, but what do you?
Starting point is 00:36:03 get locked up for that time? The last time, well, they locked me up for a discharge of firearm and a drug charge and a, in the possession of a firearm, but they dropped shit. They dropped shit because they stuck Ella charges on me, and then they only kept the drug charge because that's all that they could stick on me. How do they get the idea that you were shooting a gun? I don't know. That shit's open, so that's one of them one.
Starting point is 00:36:29 That's a touchy one. Well, they let that one good. That's good. Everything else is like you feel me, whatever. But this shit, you know, you can't, you got to trade lightly, but it's an unfortunate situation, but everything should work out with that shit. That's good. So you're, I'm just trying to picture what this must have been like for you that you're sitting in prison or in jail. And all of a sudden you just hear it in the news that your brother is in a very crazy situation.
Starting point is 00:36:55 What was that like finding out of this? I was like, I was already in a fuck the mindset. So I was already like, I didn't want to hear nothing or they didn't want to. I was trying to worry about myself. But when I came home, I'm like, damn, it's fucked up. It's a fucked up situation. But it's definitely something you got to look at, like, people ain't all there. Like, everybody got, everybody, mental health is big.
Starting point is 00:37:18 You feel, that shit you use. Right. Shit wrong with people that they don't know about, that people don't point out or whatever. It's like, it's fucked up, especially for the family and shit, too, you feel me? That's what I really thought about. Like, God damn. That shit fucked up for real. So that's your brother.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Like, you really grew up in the same house? Yeah, well, not really, though. Like, he did a lot of time, too. Why, hey, six years. I grew up more at home with my mom's and my little brother. But I never really, we didn't really kick it all the time like that. We were two different people. Right.
Starting point is 00:37:52 But I just always stuck to my program. The person that I am, I try to help my family and shit, but I don't, I'll be doing my shit. Right. But I came home and it was like, God damn. This shit, it's crazy. Right. So, like, your rap career and his rap career are totally separate.
Starting point is 00:38:09 Like, y'all weren't really fucking with yourself like that? I've done music for him before and shit, but it's like I do my own shit, though. You feel me? Like I still did my own shit. Like I said, I try to look out here and there, but. Right. It's really, it's really fucked up for the families involved. You feel more than anything, I can say.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Right, because one thing that I didn't realize, when I first saw the video, and for the record, I don't know how many people need this to explain, but basically the video came out of his brother. He has two dead girls with him. I started watching the video not knowing that that was what was going to be revealed to me. And this is when it was still on YouTube. And this was before I realized also that one of the girls was very young, too, which is even more disturbing. But, yeah, so the video comes out.
Starting point is 00:38:50 And in the video, he's sort of, you know, I mean, to be honest, it looks like he's on drugs. Yeah, that's one thing that I'm going to bring up. It's shit that go on all the time where people are mentally fucked up. Shit. That shit crazy. Did you think he was crazy outside of that, though? Besides just the drugs and stuff?
Starting point is 00:39:10 I couldn't never really, like I said, I never really got close to my brother all the way because he was always living a whole other life to me. We never really, I grew up as I was a grown man, so I never was around siblings or nothing. Once I did what I was doing, I was away from home, everybody. Right. But shit, that shit, it strikes me, though.
Starting point is 00:39:31 It surprised the shit out of me. I thought that shit was fake or something. Especially because your name was in it. Yeah, no. After that, I was just like, man, it's mental issues. People got mental issues. That's when he took way much more sense to look at why he said that. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:39:48 Like, why he said that? You feel me? And then they'd be like, okay, you're dealing with something in your head. Because already the idea didn't really make any sense of, like, you know, so I see him say that. I started looking at your videos and stuff and I'm like, why would this dude who's in prison right now have sent two girls to kill someone?
Starting point is 00:40:07 That doesn't make any sense. And then you find out that one of them was his fiance. Yeah, I don't. Which is even more, it's like impossible to imagine, right? I don't even know about none of that shit. So stories like a new story to me. Like, I was like, what the fuck? Right.
Starting point is 00:40:19 No, then I'm like, what the, no, he didn't say my name. Right. No, he said it like 10 times. I was like he didn't say that. But it's not even, it's not, it's not, ain't nothing funny about that situation though. Like I said, I really, I really wanted you to bring this shit up
Starting point is 00:40:34 so I could really say that it's fucked up for them, them girls and the family involved. Definitely. That's, that's real. I can't stretch that topic enough. Like, that shit, that shit ain't okay. Whether it was a crazy, mental hell, whatever it was,
Starting point is 00:40:49 it ain't cool. Right. So, I can just leave it at that. But you got people looking at you crazy, thinking that, like, like, it's weird how you could see, People could see a video of a person who, in my opinion, is blatantly fucked up and out of their mind. And he's claiming that somebody sent somebody for him.
Starting point is 00:41:05 And a lot of people just take it at face value. He must have really sent these girls. I'm like, why are you just taking his word for it? Yeah, exactly. But, see, that's what I'm saying. People, society is always going to be opinionated about what they think. Motherfucking don't know who you is at all. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:20 I can look at you and be like, oh, there's some crazy motherfucking white boys. But y'all, cool people, you feel? He was like, no, fuck that. Like, motherfucking can make up anything and stick anything to their brain. Especially if you got something to go with. Like, for a motherfucker, it gives you a lie to believe in, then it's more believable. Because the thing is, is that this guy having two dead women in his house, like, that makes no sense to us. We don't understand how the fuck this happened.
Starting point is 00:41:45 He throws out this little narrative of like, oh, so-and-so set me up. A lot of people just seize upon that because they don't understand how this could have happened otherwise, you know? Yeah, but see, that's what goes with motherfuckers. having a voice for themselves too sometimes. But at the end of the day, a lot of people ain't going to like it. A lot of people are going to be mad about it. But like I said, I'm a grown-ass man. I got kids and I got morals too, so I can say that.
Starting point is 00:42:07 That shit ain't cool. I can say that. But how everybody takes it is that's how they're going to take it. That's a fucked up situation. That's real big, and it's a tragedy in the community. And it's like, it makes you want to stay closer to your family because you don't never know what person. and your daughter, anybody could be dealing with.
Starting point is 00:42:27 You feel I don't know, 100%. I was reading a statement earlier from the older girl's mother and shit, and she just was saying, like, she was a good girl. Like, she got roped into this shit by a guy who was deceiving her and manipulating her. Yeah, I don't know. Like I said, I don't know about none of that shit. I don't read it.
Starting point is 00:42:44 I don't fuck with the news or media. So I don't never read that shit or nothing. I just know my output always be correctly, be positive. And like I said, some shit like that ain't cool, regardless. I don't know who them girls was. I've never seen them in my life but I know that there was somebody's daughter you feel me, somebody who cared about them.
Starting point is 00:43:03 And they was young. They had their life ahead of them, you feel me? Yeah, no, it's definitely super sad. Okay, but so in terms of like what you're doing with your career and everything, obviously you've got this like weird fucking controversy that you came home associated with, but like where do you feel like you're at in your career
Starting point is 00:43:22 and where you're trying to take things right now? Just to just make sure. sure you be her, you feel me? Like, everybody going to have their opinion, they're narrative, or how they look at you. But I'm like, all right, well, that just, like, more of a way
Starting point is 00:43:34 for me to prove different. Because at the end of the day, you got your voice, too. You could still fight against what society try to paint you out to be, you feel me? Like, you got to understand growing up in the streets
Starting point is 00:43:44 and motherfuckers look at you, like, whatever, all the time. People got fucked up people in their family all the time. Niggas, niggas, niggas, nigga motherfuckers be having all type of weird uncles aunties cousins everybody ain't going to bring that shit up
Starting point is 00:43:59 but my life always been in the light so when you start doing music and you start getting attention everything you do is going to pop up in the headlines so you can't expect anything less so I'm not the only motherfucker that went through shit like this people got mental health family members do crazy shit so and like I said I love all of my family to death but that's not cool
Starting point is 00:44:21 you feel it's not cool at all that's not And like I said, the most fucked up part of it is that somebody, some people, two people, innocent people lost their life. Yeah. Because you can't, you can't, I can't say, I know how they feel or none of that. Like you can't, there's not really nothing you can say to make it better. You know what I mean? And it's not. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:42 No, it's crazy too because a lot of times in this kind of situation we would be saying like allegedly if he did this or whatever. But I mean, it's hard for us to wrap our heads around how he would end up in the bed with the naked girls like showing, like picking up. the hand showing the limp dead hand. I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with this, dude? Yeah, that shit was disturbing. I couldn't watch that shit. I can't believe I saw it on YouTube before they took it down. I feel like if you could watch that shit over and you crazy too.
Starting point is 00:45:06 I can't watch that type of shit, especially when it's like innocent people and shit. It was like watching a horror movie because at first I didn't realize what was going to happen in the video and then all of a sudden it keeps getting worse and I'm like, am I supposed to X out of this? I feel like I should maybe X out of this. In retrospect, I probably should have, yeah. Yeah, you should have. That's why I got that shit right there to grab.
Starting point is 00:45:24 content shit. That's what they got that for. For sure. I don't even look at that shit no more because it'd be crazy shit. But Instagram and the internet makes everything like that now. Right. That's the first time you see somebody dial on Instagram? Hell no. No, I've seen a bunch of my friends.
Starting point is 00:45:39 That shit's happening everywhere. A bunch of my friends laid out dead in the streets in their car with the shit split open because people just start filming as soon as it happens. So this shit makes it ten times worse. Some shit like this happens and then you know what I'm saying? it ain't no video or whatever then it's just it would have never been like that like this video of somebody doing something it took effect on everybody you feel me families and neighborhoods and people how the way people view shit you feel me but i'm gonna keep pushing regardless because i always been
Starting point is 00:46:09 controversial so i'm never i'm never like unaware of what's going on but i always keep myself pushing because you got to keep pushing you can't accept the image that they're painting of you because then that's going to make you feel you got to move for your yourself You gotta know who you is. Definitely. Like I said, if you care about how people think about you, then you pick the wrong job. You should go do something else.
Starting point is 00:46:31 For sure. It feels like in terms of like your world of rap and stuff, that it's like we're still kind of waiting, like, obviously Mazzi blew the fuck up out of there, but it feels like you could very much imagine, like a younger rapper blowing up out of that area. Do you intend to be that guy? Of course, I'm working every day to be bigger.
Starting point is 00:46:50 I'm not working to just get by. by, I'm working to be high up there on that level. And I'm young. I'm 25, so, I mean, I got a lot more to push. I got a lot more years. I got a lot of shit to do. But for the most part, it's like you got to push through the negative shit and just keep going.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Because people are going to always try to affect you whatever way they can. Right. I don't give a fuck no more. Like, not in the bad way, but in a good way for myself. You feel me? Like, I don't give a fuck about nobody. What they're doing no more because that's going to affect my way to get into where I want to go to the top.
Starting point is 00:47:22 Fuck that shit. worry about what you got to do. Worry about that shit later when you can help it. Yeah, no, you've seen a lot of shit, but you just got to stay focused and keep going, yeah. Not get distracted about the bullshit. Hell yeah. And it ain't that hard. It ain't that hard.
Starting point is 00:47:36 As long as you work every day, you keep yourself out of certain situations. You'll be straight. But it's a lot of haters. People try to pull you back down. You've got to make sure that you're going to push for yourself more than anything. Definitely. Okay, so anything in particular that you're dropping coming up soon? You're going to drop a full project, or are you still just sticking out?
Starting point is 00:47:54 Yeah, I'm going to drop a project. I'm going to drop a project album. That shit coming up. It should be out in like the next, like, a couple of weeks, really. Okay. That's, that shit called Sacramento's most hated, so everybody got to be on the lookout for that. That's a lot of gangst and shit on that motherfucker. It sounds like it.
Starting point is 00:48:11 Most hated. It's a lot of gangsters shit on that motherfucker. So this is probably going to be one of my biggest projects yet, though. Like, we put the money behind it and shit, all that. So that's definitely something to everybody got to be on the lookout for. for. Is this your first interview? Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Kind of your first real interview? I've never done no interview. Is that something you never wanted to do before? Hell no. Hell no. But if I did one, I wasn't going to do it. You're pretty good. You're too good at talking about camera. Yeah, you're comfortable.
Starting point is 00:48:35 But if I did one, then I wouldn't want to, I don't give a fuck. If I heard it was Adam, I'm like, I fuck with Adam. I don't know. I don't know. I don't. I don't know. I don't. Because, like, man, I feel like everybody, everybody, everybody don't have.
Starting point is 00:48:49 I just watch certain people that interview people. I don't even want to go to their shit. Because I already know what it might be. Yeah, I could imagine. I can imagine what you're getting at, yeah. I get mad quick, though, too. Because I've been in situations where people start acting like police and shit, and then it gets you mad because, you know, you're doing something that might threaten
Starting point is 00:49:07 this man, like, freedom, man, you're weird and shit. No, yeah, you got to be very careful with what you bring up, how you bring it up. There's all kinds of questions. I would love to ask you off camera. Maybe we can get to that later. But, you know, it's like you've got to be careful because they already call us feds all the time just for doing interviews. Exactly, exactly.
Starting point is 00:49:23 But see, you get to always say what you want to say. And sometimes people try to trick questions the motherfucker into it. Like, that's a big thing. Because I've been in and out the system a lot. So when you sit in front of people, they get you into a habit of talking to them and being comfortable. So when they ask you a question, it's like they get you stuck and you don't know how to respond to it. No, it's like an art form, interview and street rappers in general because a lot of times, like, you get two versions of a dude where you'll see them in an interview and they ain't really saying. and shit and then you listen to the song and it's like a fucking you know it's like they're
Starting point is 00:49:56 listening off all these war casualties it's so crazy in the music and then in real life they just like fall back from it so it's like you you kind of don't know where some rappers are really telling the truth in the music and some rappers are just lying so hard in the music I would say that I would say that a lot of people live that lifestyle but you cannot believe every single story dead on you feel because people ask me that they say like a rappers really like as gangster as they act I'm like, honestly, some of them are way, way more gangster than they act, and some of them are zero percent gangster. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:50:27 And they act super gangster. So it's all over the place, really. It's always not what you think. You feel me? Like, like, with me, I can't even begin to talk. Like, I really be chilling. Like, I don't give a fuck up with nobody talking about. I would, I wouldn't, I know what I know and how people feel about me, and that's enough.
Starting point is 00:50:46 You have, hey, you got haters, and you got to make sure that you ain't, you ain't, soft-skinned at all, so you gotta make sure you defend yourself no matter what. As a man, but... You got a lot of experience with that. Yeah, I never, I never, I just got in four fights, so I'm like, eh. Just while you're locked up? Man, gladiator school, and they just go and get touched up. Now, they put me on the wrong side where all the other people was at.
Starting point is 00:51:09 Oh, shit, really? Yeah, so I had got into it twice with the same nigga, and then it was actually three times. Then I was at a visit with my attorney, and I came out and a little niggie tried to swing on me. And I had to dip him and shit. Police had came quick. They fucked me up, though. The police, they put knee in my back and all that. They don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:51:29 That's who gonna beat your ass. I feel like that's the number one person I got watch out for. Yeah, especially where you're at. You ever think about leaving up there and moving somewhere? Hell yeah. Hell yeah. But like I said, I'll still be in Sacramento a lot. And I feel like that's what differentiates me from a lot of rappers.
Starting point is 00:51:46 But it's not a good thing neither, though. It's because I got family there and I got certain things that I still got to tend to. That's it. Yeah. But I'm going to still be in my city regardless, but you got to know when it's time for you to branch off and go do other shit because we've been had Sacramento. Like I don't got no work to do out there but be a dad or be a son or be anything like that. You feel me? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:09 No, it does. The goal is to get out of there, though. I feel you. Okay, anybody you want to thank? Any shoutouts? See, yeah. You feel me? I mean, all my people's that that's behind that, my whole organization.
Starting point is 00:52:19 organization, Mazzi Devo, everybody that keep pushing behind the nigger. You know, my babies, I do this shit for them, push every day. You know, everybody that love it, nigga. Everybody that keep positive intentions, because there's a lot of haters going on, too. There's a lot of hating going on. So my people that came with me and shit, they brought me that, you know what I'm saying? We all a squad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:39 So, hell yeah. From there, I just want everybody be on the lookout for this new shit. 100%. This new shit, man. Yeah, man. I'm fucking with the music for sure. like I'm a fan for real now and you know you're a cool dude so I'm very much like looking forward to seeing how your career goes from here even after this a very weird situation that
Starting point is 00:52:57 caused a lot of people to find out about you for the first time yeah hell yeah and then like I said that's fucked up but man I'm just happy that I could say I could say what I can say about it you feel me like yeah it's it's unfortunate it's a tragedy yeah no definitely because I was you know if it's like you clearly like just not really knowing what the fuck went on with this situation? Nah, because I was in jail. So I came home and everything was like that. Like, bam, bam, bam, bam.
Starting point is 00:53:23 And it's like, oh, I, you know how to push past shit, though. Life goes on. Right. There ain't much to talk about in jail, so I'm sure that a lot of people wanted to talk to you about that. Yeah, but I was the type of motherfucker, I'd be like, bro, look, just be quiet. I ain't trying to hear nothing negative, man. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:53:39 All right. Hussie Marcus, I appreciate you coming in, man, for real. You already know, man, whenever it's good. No doubt. I'll holler at you when I'm up there next time. All right, it's good. Let's go. You got to come fuck with me, man.
Starting point is 00:53:48 Let's do it. Ozzie Marcus, No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world. Check us on YouTube, SoundCloud, iTunes, like, comment, subscribe. Nojumber.com. If you want to support, appreciate y'all.

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