No Jumper - The Veeze Interview: The Streets, Babyface Ray, Lean, Pooh Sheisty, Yachty & More

Episode Date: February 16, 2022

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No drummer, coolest podcast on the world. And today we got one of my favorite rappers, one of my favorite stylist vs in the building. Thank you, bro. I appreciate that. How you living? Rapping? Nothing, but that's that second part. You really got me with that, bro. I mean, there's just a style that you have that is very, very different than most shit that's going on.

And it's just, I don't know, it's hard to describe. There's something about what you do on tracks that I just am a real big fan of. Appreciate it. Definitely. What, uh, okay. You want to start at the beginning? You would just tell me that you watch No Jumper all the time, so I was already pretty excited. What kind of, one of the biggest platforms?

What kind of titles grab you when you see those short clips up on the No Jumper Clips channel, which everyone should subscribe to? It's like you got a, uh, got to have a little click bait to it. Got to have a little pinch of clickbait to the title. And then depending on the person who's talking. Are you watching like stuff that's more like people you know or are you watching shit that's more like celebrities like real Kim Kardashian type shit? Not that you don't know her. I watch people I know instantly.

But if I see something interesting, I'll be like, damn, let me see. Let me just learn this person a little bit. I'll watch that. I'll watch that too depending on what they say. Are you worried that there's ever going to be a video that's like the criminal history of these? They always be doing that to everybody. no they might make one though because i i watch i watch some of those videos and yeah some of them not that accurate like really when it first started it kind of used to be kind of accurate now they're watering it

down and just saying anything you'll watch one of those videos and you'll realize that they just like watch that person's no jumper interview or watch their glad interview and just literally like sat there and took some notes and then just made a whole video repeating some shit that they it ain't it don't even sound right yeah chronological order right because i'm genuinely interested in the criminal history of a lot of people that I fuck with. You know, there's an interest in store to be told there. Hell yeah, always. Always interested in criminal history of anybody.

Right. Even the people like, did they, especially the people like, did they don't put on the news and it kind of surprised you like, damn, this happened? Right. Yeah. So for you, if they were to make a video about the criminal history of these, how interesting would it be?

I don't know. I don't like that question. I'm not asking for details. I'm just wondering like, that's something I don't know about. Would it be an in-depth chronological thing, or would it be like, you know, just a few skirmishes? I mean, like, if I, if me, if I had to watch it, I wanted to be. Right.

You know what I'm saying. Interesting. Hopefully they know what they're talking about. Right. I wish I was that kind of interviewer who had like fully like tapped in and like found your whole rap sheet and shit. I need like a cop that I can be like, yo, give me some. info in this guy. When I get to that, when I get over the hump of being big enough, it'll probably y'all

come out that same, that same day. You think that's the thing that you're waiting for? Yeah, I ain't popular enough yet. Nah, I don't know about that, but you do, you kind of like fly under the radar where I feel like a lot of people fuck with your music, but they don't like really like gossip about you or like necessarily like, feel the need to have opinions about like your personal life and shit yet. Yeah. I mean, I see different opinions and shit, like, on the, on the, I don't, on the same.

social media and shit, but... Right. I mean, it comes with it. For sure. Where'd you grow up? I grew up on the west side of Detroit. I was seven miles. Seven miles south field area.

My block was roads and mine. Yeah, a lot of people think I'm from the east side because all my rubber friends from the east side and shit. Okay. It's just coincidence. How was it growing up there? What was the situation like? I'm just like regular Detroit shit.

I mean, if you ain't, if you're, You don't grow up with nobody who knows doctor or no lawyer or no shit like that shit. You're really subject to. So when you get of age, you're going to be right in the same streets. For sure. Basically. You have both parents? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. To this day. Okay. And siblings? Yeah. Yeah. I got a big, I got older brother, older sister and a little brother.

Uh-huh. Yeah. And what kind of kid were you? But I'm the big dog. Okay. Yeah. That's how I feel? I'm just hell of weird.

No, but you're super tight with your family, right? I've seen something about that on YouTube and everything. Hell yeah. Hell yeah, hell yeah. Okay. I ain't had no choice, though. It always meant like that. For sure.

What kind of kid were you? Like, how would you describe yourself when you were, like, elementary school-type age? I wish it was like somebody else here who knew me as a kid to tell you. Because I kind of like, I don't like talking like a, about myself. You know what I mean? So I don't want to sound like I'm too my own heart or taking credit away from myself. That's a weird characteristic for a rapper though. Yeah.

Because as a rapper, you're basically talking about yourself at length over and over and over on songs. Yeah, but like a kid, I feel like somebody on the outside looking in, will probably describe that a little bit. Because me being a kid, like I'm just being a kid, I don't know. Right. But you know. I think it's like probably the thing I'm most interested in? Or were you a little bit more laid back in the cut?

Nervous. I kind of like, I kind of probably, I feel like I used to be shot, but when it came to down to like how I used to be in school and how my friends treating me and shit like. So it kind of like, I was always like the silly one and shit. So I couldn't be shot no more. Like it was on me every day. Every day it was on me.

Everybody was expecting me to do something funny, silly or crazy, whatever. Really? You were kind of the life of the party. Did you learn to appreciate getting that energy out of people? Hell yeah. Yeah, because I ain't going to lie. I was kind of like, out of my friends, I was like the most blessed one.

You know what I'm saying? Like I had friends who life was way worse than mine. So being funny kind of, you know what I'm saying? It's kind of like a thing to bring everybody up. Right. Like when it comes to people who end up being rappers, I feel like there's kind of two types where sometimes you have like the popular ass dude who like has all these great experiences in life

and girls like them and shit so it just makes sense to be a rapper and then you also have the dude who's like more quiet reserved but he's like a thinker and he's he's observing what's going on and shit and he ends up being the person who has some some shit to say that people want to listen to yeah i did i know what you mean i know what you mean um i can't say i mean i only i only been rapper for den there two years going on three right So my younger days had nothing to do with me doing what I'm doing now. Right. Wow, how old are you?

I'm 27. 27, okay. So you've been out of the high school thing for like 10 years. You graduate? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. What were you doing in high school?

You were doing sports or anything? Or were you already rapping at that point, no? No. No. High school kind of, shit. Just like being a kid who think you, like when you're in high school, you think you think you know it or you kind of think you grow on stuff yeah i mean doing everything damn there backwards no cap but that shit worked out man backwards how so because it was like

like like like i graduated but i still like like got involved in a lot of different things right but i owned the school like every school i went to i owned it so you know what i'm saying I could just go in the office and change my own grades. You know what I said? Like, I was going to graduate regardless. So you weren't just popular with the kids? You were popular with the teachers too that would let you change your grades? Yeah.

Yeah, everybody loved me. Wow. I don't know what. You were like a hacker or some shit and you just knew how to change your grade? I don't know. It was like kind of like some evil plan to take over the school there a day. So we just wanted to get deeper and deeper and deeper. into shit and see what the staff really doing behind our back you know what i'm saying wow isn't that

what they did in ferris bueller they hacked into the school's records and changed their grades no i ain't never seen uh ferris bueller it was like he took a day off from school it was just like a lit movie from the 80s i ain't never seen that one oh man you'd love it i ain't ever seen that one that's a funny one ferris bueller's day off you'd fuck with it beuler i fuck with that i fuck with that. Okay, so what did you do when you got out of high school? What was the game plan?

Kind of just, I mean, I tried to probably go to college for a couple of months, but then got into the streets and it was just it from there, for real. Doing odd jobs, you know what I'm saying? Okay.

You were... I still feel like I'm in investigation. Y'all see me? You were in distribution or were you, what was going on? You were driving around? In Detroit, like, when I was coming up, it was like, man, whatever, whatever hot, like, whatever hot do it. Like, if everybody doing something with some weed, we're going to do it. If everybody doing something with some pills, we're going to do it if it's a scam.

You know what I'm saying? Like, if we get worried that something green, we're going to go do it. You are opening, you are opens of the scamming side of things? Because I've been listening to a lot of Peasy, and he makes that very. very clearly. He kind of like looks down upon scamming. Peasy just, uh, he don't knock nobody else for real. That's just, that's just, that's just talk shit, rap shit. Yeah. But, um, scamming, like I said, whatever, whatever making some money, we're gonna try to do it. It ain't really like,

I don't really, like, judge between people who like, drug dealing or scamming or whatever they're doing. Shit, you need some money, you need some money. You got to get it. Hmm. Were you thinking about rapping while you were out? having these sort of adventures? You know what? I never thought about being a rapper. I always listen to rap music and shit, but you know what I'm saying?

Everybody, people in front of D know, like, you just never know. You in the streets. If you don't go to college or go on and try to be something, you're going to be in the street. So staying alive at that point. Did you have any experiences in the streets, though, that made you feel like I want to get out of this shit.

I want to find a legal way to be prosperous. Yeah. I mean, like, when you got, like, family that is in the streets and shit, and you coming up and you see some of the guys you look up to and even some of the women in your life doing crime, you feel me? So it'd be like, like, you're going to tiptoe near eventually. But also, you know, you're playing with fire. because if you take it too far

you know like that even the worst criminal that you know didn't get caught for 99 and a half percent of the shit that they did right? They get caught for like one thing or you know even if they get a pattern of shit it's still they have like a tiny little sliver of the shit

that you got away with you know yeah but I mean like when you don't know nothing else it don't feel like nothing when you don't know shit else it don't feel like you're doing no crime you know what I mean like especially if you don't know nobody else who's doing nothing legal

you just don't you feel numb to it like I mean our city crazy man it'd be I don't want to tell I just don't want to tell it all man I feel like this from my first interview but it's crazy man it don't even

basically like if you don't get caught with no if you don't get called with no gun or literally get caught with kilos of cocaine you really you They don't really like

Everything else small Really? Everything else small is held To Detroit police Like Detroit period So scamming and all that shit That shit ain't nothing It's not

They only care about murders Because there's just so many murders And so few cops That they just have to focus On the big shit It's kind of crazy So it's like outside of murders And huge cocaine

But everything else It really don't mean nothing Like you almost can sell weed in front of the police. So did you feel like as a young guy and shit that the cops were ever going to be like useful to you in any way? Or was it 100% like, no, you have to protect yourself. The cops are not going to ever be useful to a person like me, ever. Never. I hated the police growing up, period.

They just always give you a hard time? No, kind of got trained to hate them. I don't really got too many, you know what I'm saying, like police brutality or stuff like that. I mean, I haven't seen it on social media and stuff like that, but I ain't never experienced no stuff like that back at home. For sure. But it's just like we know what we're doing. I know what I'm around, so police is getting avoided. That's the number one skill, just avoiding the cops in life in general.

That was kind of like almost one of my first jobs was like to be like a, like a police watch out. Oh, yeah? Yeah. I was probably like 10 and shit. Really? So you were in the streets from that age. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Like, when there's so much street shit's around you, it kind of seemed like ain't nothing really going on. This is the life. Just like if your people was doctors or lawyers, and you would be in that medical field, you know what I mean? And it seemed like nothing. Did you have anybody in your life

that was trying to push you to go to college or shit like that? My parents always pushed me to do good, period. it. Like, no matter what you see, try to do good, no matter what you around, don't try to get influenced by it, you can still go your own way. You know what I'm saying? Definitely. So while you're hustling and shit for all those years, obviously you're listening to rap music and shit. Are you really, really tapped in with everything that's going on in Detroit, or what are you listening to? I mean, like, I always been around, like, when I was a kid, the rock bottom and street lords, these old school rappers when I was a kid, they was like the popping rappers in

Detroit and shit. And you used to see them around, you will see them around at car shows and basketball games and shit like that. It used to feel like you, you know what I'm saying? Like you was close to somebody famous. So we always, we always loved rap. Right. But it never occurred to you that you could maybe do this? I mean, when I heard people who was totally weak, Like when I heard people who was totally garbage, I'd be like, man, anybody could do that. But I ain't never used to. And that rapping about shit that you're actually doing. I mean, yeah.

That'd play a part too because you would think you could rap about what we're doing better. Right. That's got to feel like a pretty good reason to start rapping when you see. But when I was a kid, the dope boys used to laugh at rapper. So it was nothing to, it was nothing to want to be. Like the dope boys and all the real lords who was getting it, They used to laugh at rappers and be, like, laughing on. Like, we richard in them, basically, so fuck them.

But there weren't even that many success stories out of Detroit at that time that you were really visible anyway, right? Like, you didn't have, like, people that you knew that were successful doing this? No. I mean, we caught, I mean, certain, when people get a certain, start spreading in certain fields, it don't matter, like, how much success they get. Like, if they go gold or platinum or shit, we just be. Like when we see people spread, we'd be proud of them anyway.

Right. We call any little bit of success, success, so. Was there anybody from Detroit that you were looking at as a young guy, though, that you were actually hyped on? I mean, all of them, all them, because you would listen to them and you would see them in the street. A lot of them, like, shit. Blade, big hurt. Who else was called inside? I did rock bottom.

T. Jesse James, who else? Who else hard as hell? Street Lord wine. It was Eminem too long ago for you to be a fan? No, I fuck with Eminem. I fuck with Eminem. Okay.

I know a lot of Eminem shit. For sure. He won, he are, he are goat. Royce of 5'9? You ever listening? I fuck with Royce. I actually know Royce. Oh, okay.

He cool. He cool. That's like big bro. He fucked with all of us. us in the N-a-D. Right. Who, like, what, because when you came out, some of your older stuff has, like, a very, like,

the beats are super minimal in your voice, like, the recording of it. It was, like, really different than the way that your voice sounds on tracks now. Is that just because you didn't really have access to, like, good equipment, or were you fucking with that style? Probably just didn't care about going into the process of, like, mixing and mixing songs and shit like that. Wasn't even thinking about it. Right.

Just putting it out. How'd you actually get started making music? Damn, daw. It kind of like, it kind of like happened out of nowhere people are just going to the studio. Like I said, a lot of my homeboys always used to rap. Studios like being in the streets, you always end up in the studio. Everybody rap, everybody on the west coast,

on the west side of Detroit rap, just like the east. When all your friends go into studios and shit, you just fucking around. You just get used to it. Right. You just, hos hell fucking around one day, just did a couple songs. But I still just was, I wasn't taking it serious, though. My people, my homeboys and shit just was listening to them, sending them to each other. Because if you never made a, if you never did a verse, everybody's going to be kind of like,

come on, you got to do one. Right. Like the songs did everybody kind of push me. to tell me to take rap serious. Like, they never really came out. They just were songs that my friends had saved on their phones and shit. Right.

Probably a little half of freestyle and shit like that. But, like, me and my nigga baby face, like, his big brother and my dad kind of ran together. You know what I'm saying? They grew up together. Really?

Yeah, but, like, my dad, it's his big brother, though, because my dad probably, like, eight years older than his big brother. brother, but they're tight. But I knew my nigga Ray Big Brother all my life. And I ain't never even know Ray. But when I start fucking with Ray and them,

I start going to the studio and being more serious and shit. So he was already rapping before you got into it? Yeah, Ray, Ray was already grinding. He probably been doing grinding for like 9, 10 years, for real. Wow, really? Yeah, his history go back. His catalog go back, fuck. He had legend indeed.

Damn, I didn't realize he been rapping that long. Because I feel like he's only really gotten huge in like the last year. Right one and up, man. Y'all got to get hit. So you were fucking with him even before you were really rapping? Before I was really rapping. Yeah, I knew right before I was really, really rapping. Okay.

So then you actually recorded a couple of songs. Like, how do you decide that you're actually going to take it more serious? It really, like, just like I said, like, I made this one, I made the song Rusty. Which is one of the bigger ones, right? and I was already bullshit in the studio, probably like a money or so, a money to us. And Ray, I guess, I think he started a website, and he was like, man, I'm dropping your son on my website.

I don't care what you said. He just dropped it. So it started going around, going around, start getting a lot of views and shit. And they went from there and shot a video. Raven paid for my first video. Like, he really pushed me. to do it really like he actually wanted you to do this but was he trying to sign you or anything

no he never tried to sign me right he ain't never tried to sign me he was still he was still kind of getting used to doing deals and stuff like that around that time too right so he ain't never tried to sign me but he always like he was doing things with empire he told empire about me and stuff like that did he make you is he the person who made you realize that you could actually make real money doing this yeah yeah him I was shit him Peasy, G.T., all them. Okay, so you are. That was their main point.

Right. Man, you can make money. That's what Rio said when I interviewed him is he said that Peasy put him in the car and drove around with them and actually showed him what it was like to go pick up the deposit for a show and what it was. Like he showed him his fucking tune core check or whatever it was and just said like, this is how much I make from this, et cetera. So that somebody like Rio who was really used to make money in the streets could get the vision

of like, oh, this is how much I could make doing this. Hell yeah, I for sure, I for show, uh, can name stories that me seeing Peasy pick up deposits and features and shit like that and it being like, I used to kind of hustle they features, like kind of middleman them. Like people would see me it, before I was taking it all the way serious, people would see me in the picture of Uray and Peasy and shit and they'll be like, damn, how much they want for. And I hustle and make money off their verses and shit. So I used to, yeah.

And that wouldn't bother them because I feel like some people would would feel like that was fucked up. No, we too much. You know what I'm saying? We too mafia style. We're trying to make the money. Right. Damn, that's dope. Everybody can eat.

Okay. So once you kind of get into the game and shit, though, like what did you feel like you were bringing to the table or what was going to make you different from a lot of other people out there? Like, what were your intentions in terms of rap? Um, I can't say I really had no attention. It's just seeing the feedback, seeing people reaction. That's where I just, I just went from there. Right. Was it kind of like immediate? I did like, when I put out the video, it did a lot of, it did a lot of numbers in a week.

So it was like, after that it was like, shit, I'm about to shoot another video. Wait, are you a rapper who was already? It was already the pandemic when you really started going? No, this was before. This is like 2019. Oh, okay. Yeah, okay, you do have some videos I was watching from back then. It is like 2019.

This was like nobody even was thinking about pandemic. Right, definitely. I had Yadi on the show a while back, and I was asking him, who's the number one rapper in Detroit? And he said your name as definitely one of the options. You seen that? Yadi's smart. Yadi is smart.

So you know what I'm saying anything he say it ain't you know I'm saying ain't too far off Right you feel like is it competitive in Detroit right now you feel like motherfuckers are really Thinking about that conversation of who's number one who's number two who's number three is that is that something that you talk about with other rappers that you think are in the top five top ten etc I mean no I can't say we really talk about that okay no I just fuck with everybody. I'm proud of everybody what they're doing. Shit, we're trying to get in the dough. Right.

Get some of that money from them labels. That's all it is to me. That's kind of two different ways of viewing it. You could think about it as a real contest. Like, who's trying to be number one? Or you could think of it as we're all hustling. We're all doing well for ourselves. Let the pieces fall how they may.

If I'm number one, if I'm number two, whatever it is. Okay. We've made some of the best songs together. We have made songs together. linking up you know what I'm saying so right no it ain't no competition we all then worked with each other right be a shit with each other that one of the biggest ones is run down with Yadi okay and Arm C Mike and yeah shout out the Yaddy yeah shout out the Rio and Mike what was that night like what are these nights like

when you shoot these videos it really it's really kind of normal because we don't give a fuck it's just like turn the camera on let's do it You know, Yadi cool, he always keep the vibes. Right. Like, right. He, he know how to create the vibe. How did you first get in touch with him? Through DM, Yadi DM me.

Uh-huh. Yadi DM me, he just DM me, like, you hard, bro. Bob, we just talked. We talked when I went to, I would think, I think I was in Atlanta. And we linked up, we went to the studio. Easy. He, uh, what Yadi had. I think he schooled me in the Ferrari.

Really? Yeah. Yaddy a rich, rich young guy. He'll show off, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. He'd pick you up for four days and four different cars, you know what I'm saying? He'll show up. Yeah, he's a fly dude.

Yaddy Coor, he got us together. Like, I ain't never, uh... I met Cucci Man and Louis Ray the same day I made you. But I mean, I knew him. I knew their music and shit. But I ain't never known. So he kind of introduced us.

Right. Do you feel like for the most part, there's a lot of loyalty amongst everybody who's popping in Detroit right now and everybody getting along? We know of some rappers that don't get along, but are those exceptions to the rule? It's cool.

I mean, everybody is cool. And the ones who don't get along, I mean, they still make it cool. They make it cool. They ain't trying to, you know what I'm saying, get into no. bras and no shit like that. Right.

So it's cool. I mean, niggas grown as hell. A lot of niggas got kids and got shit to lose too. Right. You know what I'm saying? Not at everything looking promising. A lot of shit ain't worth it. That's what I see when I look at a lot of the Detroit shit, though, is that you kind of got like the B-tier, C-tier, D-tier rappers who are beefing like crazy and talking about killing each other.

But then when you actually look at the dudes who are really doing very well, they're not really beefing or nothing. Yeah, yeah. I feel like beefing just a stage of young niggas. As they get out of there, they'll see. Hopefully they ain't got to learn the wrong way, but, you know what I'm saying? That's true, though. It's like that stage in a lot of young kids' lives that we see where they just want to have their early videos to be like 10 dudes with their shirts off with guns pointing out of the camera, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It looks sweet. I mean, it's cool. It looks sweet in the culture. It's like a phase we see over and over. For real, with different cities, different states. With Detroit got young niggas who are doing crazy shit too. They on that too, shit.

Yeah, it's a shame. Get them out of it. It's a shame because they always end up learning the same lesson of like they end up catching a cage or whatever happens. And then all of a sudden they realize like, oh, I can't be doing this in videos anymore. Man, free my shorties, man. for you all the guys man y'all know what the fuck going on

no jumper man i'm in this bitch with adam all right but that's that's the question is how much of your life do you prefer to put into the music like do you do if you're going through something is that going to end up in the music or do you prefer to just keep it player yeah i mean everything getting everything getting the music is just some stuff don't come out of the studio so yeah

you love being in the the studio? It'd be like sometimes you can't be in a studio too much. Sometimes you got to go, you got to go live and then come back to the studio to spend some money, fuck some haws and some clothes. One of the things I really took from watching your fucking blogs and shit, though, was like, damn, this dude really be in the studio until like seven in the morning. See what I'm saying? That's such a different lifestyle than where I'm at right now. I'm sleeping for the whole time that you're in the studio. Yeah. Yeah. but you got to put that work in shit

can you ever make music during the day or is it always got to be a nighttime affair I don't make music in the day okay it don't matter actually I've seen you at Mulo's house recording a verse yeah it's probably like 1 30 it's probably like 2 o'clock one jim

right yeah it ain't nothing it ain't nothing to rap but do your best verses come off like how much does the vibe matter what is my best verses Adam I'm not gonna go on cast judgment or anything like that I'm just wondering you think

the best ones come out when it's like late at night and you're like all fucked up and it's fucking five in the morning. Uh, it'd be a blur, man. It'd be a blur, man. I kind of don't know until we play it back

until we play it back probably the next day. Right. Okay. You just sort of like go so in the zone that you don't even want to be judging it. You'll forget how many songs you did. You'll forget the bars you said. You'll be, and make you kind of surprised.

Like, damn, I don't even want to be judging it. did that like what the fuck was wrong with me you ever go back and change anything no I probably finish I don't know change nothing no I don't know

like could you even see yourself doing that like realizing that a song that you made at 8 o'clock in the morning one day that's going to be the single and then you're listening to it and you're like you know I could have I could change that bar I lied to myself trash I ain't gonna fix it You just let it rock.

I feel like your music is very extreme of consciousness. It's like you really just, whatever's going through your head at that moment. Yeah. It could be multiple moments. It could be yesterday, two days ago, you know what I'm saying? What, uh, you ever write stuff in advance or is always just punching in? No, I don't write stuff. I don't write stuff.

Mm-hmm. I don't write stuff. I'm too good for that. You take a lot of pride in your your reps Hell yeah Hell yeah I think I'd be thinking I'd be calling myself trash

Really? Yeah Yeah Do you listen to your old shit And you feel like it's just not up to date With where you're at now No If I feel like

Like no I snapped on that I snapped on there It ain't really like I go back and be like All this old shit All my old stuff is weak And my new stuff is better It's just if it's good, it's good.

Right. Do you feel like you know how good a song is when you're making it, or do you figure that out after the fact? It's up to the fans. It's all up to the fans. Really? Yeah. I could think some shit sweet as hell.

They could. You know what I'm saying? And I like it. So it's up to them. You ever surprised by the conclusions that they come to? The fan's smart. The fan's smart. They don't lie.

They don't lie I can't I can't I can't I can't lie and say they do They really tell the truth But do you feel like your fans would rather hear you rap over some weird ass production Do something totally out of the norm Or do they want to hear you on the same type of beats that everybody else is on It depends because like some people just

Hard tough critics You know I'm saying and some people want to Get the best comment You know what I'm saying? Try to hit the biggest point to get the best comment. That's true. Some people fans, some people, fans of the music. Some people, fans of artists, certain artists' growth.

Some people don't want artists to grow. You know what I'm saying? It's tricky. Right. Definitely. How'd you link up with Poo Shastie? Poo up, me and Poo Link from just being fans of each other, music. For real, for real.

And we just, we just, we just, linked up, got in the studio, talked shit, you know what I'm saying? Right. Pooh, that's a little bro. A lot of shit, a lot of shit I learned from him. A lot of shit he learned from me. A lot of shit we learned from each other being from different parts of the world. Right.

No, cap. Pooh, one of one. He's a real one. You were on his project. And he was on your project, right? No, no, no, no, no. I was just on his. Oh, okay.

Yeah, I was just on his. Do you have unreleased songs with him? No. I feel like I heard a song. The isn't out that was you two together. I don't know. We're gonna see. Right.

You're just waiting for the green light to put that out? The biggest brr-d-in America. But that's my nigga, dog. That's my nigga. When I saw you guys in the vlog together, I was like, this is two young men bonding over Lean. No, really like, it's really kind of like how we fancy each other flow. We fanz of each other with beats.

We choose to wrap off of us. Like, we fans at each other for real, but that's my knee. Right. But you did definitely drink some lean together, I've seen. I don't even think I like to drink lane. Really? He, like, announced when he got locked up that he felt great because he was finally off the lean. Yeah.

I was, I'm glad to see starting stuff like that, I mean, lean at the end of the world. Right. How long you've been drinking, lean for? Um. I probably still drinking Lien since I was probably like 16, 17 or something like that. Really? Yeah. Who introduced you to it?

Who introduced me to Lain? Damn. Hey, I can't think, I can't think right now. Lean used to be, like, Lean then used to be, you know, it kind of used to be free, cheap. It used to mean nothing to pull up with a nigga, so. Right. Damn, anybody. It could have been anybody.

Now it is so expensive that it's, like, exclusively. the domain of drug dealers and rappers and shit. Yeah. Celebrities. Justin Bieber. Yeah. Yeah. I would like to jingling with Justin Bieber. I think he's off it. He's a man of God now.

I mean, not to say you can't do both. That's what's up. That's what said. Who's the most famous person you ever dangle in with? Most famous person ever drinking with? I don't know who people think famous is hell. Everybody don't think the same people famous, you feel me? If your answer is just a rapper that we all already know drinks, then it's like not, you know.

I drink Lingua Future. Really? Yeah. I guess he's the biggest. He is the biggest. That's an old pro. The biggest. Nobody's done much more to make it popular than him.

Yeah, he wanted the ones. He's one of the ones. He definitely kept the lean wave going. Yeah. Yeah. He wanted the biggest. And our generation of influencing Lean and him. I hate saying this, though.

I hate saying this right now. Everyone knows it. He knows it. It's the culture, though. Like him and Lil Wayne and Gucci. Them niggas who used to have us drinking lean, like we used to love it. Do you look at it as something that your- Shout out the Pee-Wee-Longway, too, man.

True. No cap. Do you look at it as something that you're enjoying right now, but that you're definitely going to have to stop with at some point? Yeah, yeah. I'm getting close to me. I'm getting close to be quitting. Really?

Yeah, I ain't really, like, we don't really get, we don't really even get heavy no more. Like, it got to be a real celebration for us to pull up a, but A to something like that. We don't really, yeah, we're cutting back, everybody cutting back. Why is that? I mean, it ain't the end of the world. Well, now you're successful. It's something we all need to let go one day. I mean, you're making way more money right now than you were a year or two ago.

Does that make you like, I need to sort of stay on the right path and keep making more money? What I could have saved more money. Yeah. Without buying it. So it's like a little, it's like a gift and a curse. Like they say, the evil, the root of all evil, my money. It's true. You never know what it's going to be.

There's like an absurd amount of money that you spent over the years on it when you really think about it. Yeah. Yeah, it sucks to say. Yeah. For sure. Yeah, I mean, everybody who drinks, Celine is kind of like, there's always that there's so many examples of a boozy or a fucking ben baller or whatever who all just had to stop at some point and they just swear up and down it was the best thing

they ever did yeah for real i heard a lot of a lot of people saying quitting it's the best thing they ever did right you know i'm saying but just we getting we getting older so man you could feel like that when you young like uh yeah but shit you getting older it ain't it ain't helped. Yeah. Do you think it helps with the music a lot though? I mean, I can't say. I feel like I'm I feel like I'll be taking away from my talent saying I need the lean to rap. But I like rapping off lane. For sure. Do you fuck with a lot of other drugs or? Not really. Not really. Just a weed with weed and lean. So you're kind of exaggerating in the

songs when you say like, oh, my four drugs or whatever? Yeah. I do so many drugs. I can't have no children around me. So one drug is too many to be around the child, though. That's how you feel? How many kids you got? I ain't got no kid. But one drug too many, so you know, it's kind of not exaggerating.

You know when you, you know how to it's words. You know what I'm saying? If you want to be, if you want to overthink it or if you want to make it technical, it's up to you. I have a lot more anxiety about doing drugs or drinking lean. now that I'm a dad.

Yeah. Because it just feels like I got to get up early in the morning. I'm not going to say I never do, but, you know, much, much more infrequently because, you know, I got to get up early in the morning and deal with the kid and shit. But you don't pour up no more? Just a lot less. Okay. Once in a blue.

Okay. So is that coffee? This is actually coffee. Okay. I need energy. That's a lean cup. That would be cool. To lean heads.

Well, it would be a lean cup to a very small percentage of the population. Most people would see it I think it's a Starbucks cup I would double it up Put the Starbucks cup inside the game Yeah Fuck it That's hard

Got a different vibe That's hard Why not? Yeah y'all know What the fuck going on Like he said Free my nigga Shikaze

Oh yeah Free Shatsy man Hey how much time You spent around Draco Draco I knew I knew

I knew Drago I'd think I met Draco. Ever since he got out of jail, I've always been a fan of him, but ever since he got out of jail, I've been around him a few different occasions. There was a no-jumper show vlog

that you were both in. Like, I don't even know if you both performed, but it was like you were both just hanging out at some party outside, just chilling and shit. I think that was desktop part. I think that was that's birthday. You're right. Yeah.

Yeah, I fuck with Draco, though, man. Rest of peace, my nigga, Draco, though. Yeah, that was crazy. No kept. You got unreleased music with him? No, no, we never did no son. Oh, you didn't, okay. We never did no son.

We, like, seen each other ass shows and shit, seen each other fucking around. Like, we got mutual friends and shit. We didn't got high together. We never did no son, though. That's a shame. I don't fuck with Drago, no cap. Yeah, man. That's a big blow to the city.

One of the hardest niggas. Very sad. I feel like for a lot of you guys from Detroit and shit, were, like, big-ass Drakeo fans and worked with them and everything. Everybody fucked with Drakeo, no cap. Yeah, facts. You got a lot of fans that just know you as the dude who wrapped over the Law & Order beat? You got, like, TikTok fans and shit like that?

I don't really, I ain't got no TikTok, though. I need to make a TikTok. I feel like your shit probably goes up on there, though, right? I'd be seeing people that people that show me TikToks, people doing TikToks to my songs, different songs and shit. Right. Yeah, but all my fans, man, ain't no telling. Ain't no telling, man. It's random when you see fans what they say.

that favorite song gives. You love Law & Order, though? Hell, yeah. I love that song. How'd you end up getting on that beat? Shit, just going through beats. My nigger Smurf made that beat. He was just going through beats.

Playing them for me in the studio. I was like, pull that one up. You know what I'm saying? You just went for it? Yeah, this shit easy to me, Adam. You feel, I mean? You didn't really like no special science

going into this shit. How long is it? take you make a song on average would you say ain't no telling i'd be trying to make sure it's right really so it ain't no telling but shout out my nigger smurf who made the beat man shout out my god kevin put the video together but it just feels so effortless when you rap they like do you sit there and like think about a bar for five minutes ever before you do the next bar it ain't no telling man it really ain't no telling it might be it might be the bar or how i'm trying to fit it inside the flow

gotta get I'll be trying to get it right so I might do that you're a scrap a whole verse halfway through and just be able to start over yeah plenty of time okay

plenty of times it ain't sure you'd be having to get your juices flowing and get it going so some stuff just like you know what I'm saying warming up you see how I'm actually

very interested in you as a rapper as opposed to like just your shenanigans oh you just a professional or what you do I'm just interested in the rap, man. No, no, Captain Adam Ben-Fucking with me. No, you ain't fake.

That's good to hear. I'm hyped. What makes you want to vlog? Like, what do you like having that relationship with your fans? It's crazy because vlogs is just something that I think area artists is a fan of. Even before you're rapping, you watch vlogs, you watch other rappers, vlogs. So you just want to do it. It definitely helps you feel like you understand what a person's

actually like yeah and jimmy uh he good at it he got the he got good team good editors right he'd be getting the good parts like if y'all need to watch jimmy it's like a real life story timeline man y'all can watch jimmy vlog a lot of shit going on i ain't just talking about the ones i'm in i'm just talking about yeah that's how i got into it too the main thing i got from watching your vlog is just this dude's in the studio a lot Like how often are you in there? Like as much as possible? Or you pick and choose?

Are you doing it in the crib too, right? We do it kind of loosely. We kind of be trying to do it while we're doing stuff about the art and stuff this safe. So it ain't really like we're trying to take the cameraman to the trap house and blah blah blah, blah, some guns and shit. So it'd be kind of like we got to make sure we're doing certain stuff. It's crazy because that would be the easiest way to give people's attention on YouTube and shit. but just kind of.

Yeah, but it's a lot. It's tacky. It's tacky. That's how you describe it? Yeah, it's tacky, man. I respect that. We ain't got to show no weapons. Right.

I'm sure. All right, so what are you looking to do this year in terms of taking shit to the next level and whatnot? It's crazy. Like, I'd be kind of just going to flow, seeing how shit going to go. That's how you feel? Yeah, we'll see. That's different than a lot of our average. A lot of rappers got a big plan of exactly where they're trying to make it to in their career and shit.

Yeah, see, man. I don't know what the fuck going on. You're very in the moment. No, because I know, I just believe in, you know what I'm saying? What we got going on? Everybody fuck with the movement. Everybody got everybody fucking with it. So it should be interesting.

That show. You're definitely somebody that I think I'm, like, more fascinated by after the interview. Yeah. Because you're very like just so chill, like whatever happens happens, like I'm just going to do this. I'm just acting. I'm just acting, man. I'm trying to be, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah.

You're trying to be the cool stoner, homie instead of being Mr. like businessman CEO. Yeah, it's good, man. The kids don't want to hear the CEO rap. They want you to be this cool, chill dude. You're just not letting us in on the CEO mind state. Yeah, because it's still like you can't give away too much again. You got to put the, we still got blueprints. We're trying to.

Man, you gave Lando two interviews. Yeah. It's already all out there. That's crazy. I got to watch those interviews. You don't remember him? No. Damn.

Nope. I don't really remember what I said in those interviews. But Landau, a guy I knew for a long time. Right. I fuck Orlando. He's a big presence in the city. Hell yeah. There's a lot of important content.

Yeah. He touch everything. For sure. He touch everything. Detroit just needs more of that, really? Yeah. Yeah, we're building it up. It's a lot of different people building it up just like Landau.

For sure. But he wanted the biggest one. Anybody want to shout out, anything we need to know? Gangers on the way, man. Shout out to the whole Navy, Navy, man. Y'all know what's going on. Man, I really got too much to say, man. I appreciate being here.

You got merch yet? No, I'm working on it. I did the merch with my last tap and shit, but. Oh, okay. I'm still working on the world. Serial before you got t-shirts. Yeah, the t-shirts was at the t-shirts. It'd be different kind of, I'd be having, like, different t-shirts at a little, at shows.

Right. What are your thoughts on the cereal? Like, what did you want out of a cereal? It came out cool. I feel like I can do, I want to do more stuff, more stuff, like, like, candy, snacks and shit. You got a sweet tooth in general? I really, I really don't know. I really don't know more.

Really? I'm just into like the business of a high. You know what I'm saying? People sell snacks and. Right. What flavor is this, though? Is this like frosty flakes? It's just frosty cornflake.

Yeah, I'm going to do a new, I'm going to do a different flavor probably. I'm going to do a different flavor soon. Something rare. Yeah. Fish show. What's the best weed right now? Oh, damn. You seem like a connoisseur.

I love, uh, it's a couple different. It's a couple different flavors that's good, man. I ain't gonna lie. I can't think right now. I can't think right now, man. And they gotta pay me to shock them out, man. That's a good point. But we be smoking strong shit, man.

Y'all know who y'all. What'd you be smoking? Big Chief. I do. Mac and Chiefs? That big Chief ain't bad. Uzimaki. That big Chief ain't bad.

Follow AD on Twitch. You got to pull up to the AD Twitch. What do you be doing on Twitter? Just talking shit. Oh, okay. They have a freestyle and doing it. all kinds of, he's trying to get on Twitter. He'll be whiling out on there.

I'm trying to play. I might start playing a game and shit on Twitter. He was doing that, but then I think he realized that people would rather see him just talk shit and watch other people's music videos and fuck around and play games. People like that now. Like, that's a different, that's a different lane that people could make money off of it. Like, just, like, people don't get to see, like, people just talk shit. Like, no filter.

Not even, like, talk shit, like, on some hateful shit, but just talk about whatever, you know? No. No, because it'd be a lot going on. Like y'all, LA got their own kind of like industry. So it's kind of like anything. Y'all can make some money off anything. Just wake up and do something different. That's real.

Like that. Do you wake up everyday motivated to make money? Or do you wake up motivated to create? Like where do you feel like your desire comes from? Yeah. More to like create new shit. More. Yeah, money gonna come, I mean.

That's anyways. I guess your music would sound different if you were trying to just make a bag real quick. What do you mean about that? You know, I mean, you feel like a real artist. Like you actually care about what you're doing and not. Like you're just gonna, you know, go do some silly shit to get a bag real quick.

I got respect for it. Right. A lot of rappers don't really feel like artists. They just feel like somebody who's like trying to make some money. Hell yeah. I mean, you can respect it. That's what it's all about at the end of the day. We are making money, though.

So how far you go, how far you go for money? You know what I'm saying? You can't be greedy for money and do something, this audio character. You know what I'm saying? Certain gimmicks that, you know, probably go too far just to make it bad. There's a lot more longevity in keeping it real, you know, building a brand based around who you really are. You don't know?

I don't know, man. You remind me a currency. Not in this game. I fuck with spitting. You remind me out. I fuck will spit it out. I'm a fan of spit it too. You're both stoner dues, super laid back and also like, even though you rap completely differently, like, there's a way that he's just been like doing his thing and making the kind of music he likes over and over and over the years and seeing what a legend that's made him.

Yeah. Or even if people don't listen to all this shit, they still just got so much respect for him just doing him. Yeah. Yeah. He'll legend. he's been doing this shit he he he never did no silly gimmicks and none to and he still make his bag he's still getting to it mm-hmm no cap no cap viz appreciate you man appreciate you i ain't gonna lie bees no jumper coolest podcast in the world check us on youtube patreon tic-tok instagram

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