No Jumper - The YBN Nahmir Interview: YBN Break Up, Why He Hasn't Dropped an Album & More

Episode Date: February 16, 2021

Nahmir gets real about his evolution as an artist, from being in a group to leading a solo career, dealing with personal relationships in the business, what led YBN to part ways and more. He also makes it clear that No Jumper was the first one to put YBN on! https://www.instagram.com/ybnnahmir/ https://twitter.com/YBNNahmir ----- CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5tesvmDS8h50LkjnSAWMOs?si=j6sJD6DkR4mk5NZZWnlK7g FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/nojumper iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/no-jumper/id1001659715?mt=2 Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFICIAL http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumper Coolest Podcasts on the world. And today I'm in here with somebody who I've seen their entire career from beginning to end. Or not end, but from the beginning. And, you know, somebody who's always been super cool friend of the podcast, somebody I really fuck with the one and only. Why being in that I'm here? How you feeling, man? I'm feeling, man.

I'm great, man. I was just putting them on the spot saying that you need to be a dad at some point in the future. No, bro. You're a old-ass man, bro. It's different now. You got a whole kid, bro. Yeah, you got a whole kid, bro. Yeah.

You got about a decade and a half until you're in the position I'm in where you just got to get one out. You know, you don't want to be 40 with your first one. I hit 37 with my first one. That seems pretty good. Maybe 36. I can't remember. Oh, yeah. But how is life?

Where are you at? I see you just rolled up in here with a whole bunch of woods rolled. Bro, I'm chilling. For real. That's really it. That's all I can really do is chill. Chill. Because of COVID.

You can't fucking move around like you want to. Chill and get a little money. You know, that's really it. I feel it. Because you got a massive song recently. Right now I was going crazy. I didn't expect to blow up like that. Upstopper.

Hell yeah. So what did you do? You just reached into your bag of network of different TikTokers and you were like, yo, I need y'all all. I swear to God, I didn't even say nothing. I woke up one day and it was just like, p. Right. Yeah, it just blew up out of nowhere.

I swear to God. Because I was so surprised when I went and looked and realized that that song's been out for over a year. And somehow it just blew up all out of the middle of nowhere. Yeah, that shit was. I don't know, I swear to God, it was different. Because, like, you feel me? I'm used to, like, putting something out in this damn near six million, seven million in a month or two.

Right. So, you know what I'm saying? It took that a while with the build up. You're used to all the views being in the beginning, and then it slows down. So it's, like, very out of the ordinary for it to be, like, good, and then all of a sudden go crazy that late in the game. It was different. Like, it was just showing me, like, shit changing.

Right. Why is that song only a minute long, a minute 12? Testing the water. You feel me? Testing the water, seeing what it will do. Because I already know if it's like a short song, people are going to keep replaying it because I do the same thing.

Right. You feel me? I got to hear the same shit over and over if it's hard. Yeah. But damn, I just can't imagine being in the studio and being like, yeah, minute 12.

That's fine. We don't need to do nothing else to this. It wasn't even a minute of 12. It was like, I was rapping for like 50 seconds. To be honest, the beat was playing for a second. Right. So it's like a 50 second song, to be honest.

Wow. But it's the quickest song I ever did. Do you feel like when you do a song like that, it's kind of like meant for TikTok because it's like TikTok is the short-ass version of your music. It's like if you make a four-minute song, they're going to have to cut it down. If you make a one-minute song, it's kind of like, all right, they can just rock

like that. At the time I wasn't thinking that because like, you feel me TikTok wasn't that popular. Like, it was still TikTok, but now it's like growing to the thing it is right now. So it just blew up out of nowhere. I wasn't expecting it to do what it's doing. Right. So it was kind of like different. And you went hollered at 21 for the remix just to have another

reason for it to pop up a little more? That surprised me, too. I didn't even hit him up. I mean, I was talking to him about other songs and shit. But then you feel me, I linked up with him after he hopped on a song. I seen him at the video. He was like, yeah, bro, my kid fuck with the song and all. That said, I fuck with you. So I was right here on crib.

Like, we might as well just go and do that. That's crazy. Like, I already know it's going to blow up. Like the video going to push it more than what it's going right now. Right. That's it. Wow. Yeah, no, that's dope.

Oh, wait. So the video's not out yet. No, it's not out yet. We just had to make sure. We shot it like a week ago. Really? You got shot that out here or you went to Atlanta? Yeah, we went to Atlanta.

Oh, okay. Yeah. And how was that? It was cool. I mean, it felt like home. You didn't shoot like a green screen video, like all the videos these days? You just did it on the block or something? We did it on the block.

I mean, it was next to a funeral home and shit. I don't know where we was at. Like, we was in a middle of fucking nowhere. Set the mood right there? Yeah, it was kind of weird. I mean, they had a funeral going on and everything. I was like, damn, who mama getting buried out this bitch? And we shooting a video.

That is so disrespectful. Oh, my God, bro. If I'm at a funeral and I see Yvian Namir and 21 Savage across the street shooting a video, I'm going to be like, bro, I got to move. This is not cool. I got to get up out of here, fool. Oh, my God. That's insane.

Nick, you see why I left? Wow. But, okay, so when I think about, like, my version of, like, having seen you come the whole way, I got to admit, you're one person that I always use you as an example. I'm always like, bro, if you think that the live streams that we do, every Friday, where you can pay $100 for a festival of your song, nojumber.com, music promotion up at the top. If you think it's bullshit, just know that I saw this guy and I saw his massive first hit when it had like 200 views and then all of a sudden like a week later it's like one of the

biggest songs in the country. So we saw that on stream somehow. Let me ask you this. Were you the one who sent the $100 or was it somebody on your team? Because that's what I always wonder. All of us. I didn't even have a team. It was like it was YBM people like all my friends and shit, all my niggas and shit.

So we was just like, fuck it, bro. We got a little bit of money. That's all put it together and let's spam this shit in there. Like I just shot the video I just, you feel me, the song kind of blowing up a little bit so it's going to get somebody attention Right

Then random motherfuck And stuff paying like $10 or whatever fuck it was And I was just like damn I got something going And I played it And it was up from there I swear to God

Like everybody else Try to make it seem like They blew me up But I swear to God Y'all was the first people to You know Pat ourselves on the back That's right Laura

You weren't around there But you still applaud Yeah That's why I fuck with you Crazy like that bro I swear to God Adam we looked up to you Like we still look up to you

That's crazy. It's like, nigga, we was out here watching your old shit like, damn, bro, we're going to be one of them niggas that he played. Damn, we're going to be one of them niggas on the interviews. Wow. I wish I had known more about the industry then because I would have been like, oh, we're going to sign this kid to a Meg the Stallion deal. We're going to make some money. Niggil, what? Nick, we, swear to God.

I didn't know. But you didn't, where were you at in your musical career? Like, in terms of, did you have a manager? Did you have anybody on your team that really knew what the fuck was going on? Or were you just straight up? Because that's a YouTube beat. It was nothing. The song was out for two days.

Right. So you feel me? It was like, you know how you were streaming all the time, like playing people music and shit. It was like that. It was just like we caught it at the right time. Right. Like, World Star hit you up right away. Like, yeah, we can put this on the channel.

It was elevator. Then it was like little other shit. And then World Star hit me up. And I was like, all right, let me take this shit off my page and let them upload it. Right. Damn. So that must have been like the biggest change imaginable in your life. Like how was that?

It was crazy, especially going to school. Like going to school was different. That's when I knew it was like, all right. Because you were 16 or 17 probably at the time? I was 17. Like, it was the beginning of the 12th grade year. So I was, it was like August, September. Uh-huh.

Yeah. Damn, they're late September. So, you feel I mean? I was still 17 type shit. Right. It was just different than me. Like, everything was changing so quick. I started getting money.

I started getting fame. Right. Like, you know, I always been famous, like, not famous, but always had like a name. Around the school. People were like, a name somewhere. Because I always, the kid that played sports. I always was the kid that had a lot of followers on. Instagram and shit.

So I felt like when I blew up, it was like time for something else to happen. Like, it was just meant for me to, you know, be who I am today type shit. Like, I felt like all the shit that I was doing back in the day played off to what I'm doing right now. So, but when that song comes out and you're still going to school, is the principal like, hey, you're 17 and you're an 11th grade. You can't be having guns in the video and all kinds of shit. I'm sure that was a thing.

They didn't even get a chance to tell me. They called my mom. So I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm already knowing they was going to do that. So I had to go up to the school with my mom and shit. They had the sheriff. They had like the principals and shit. And they was like, yeah, we're going to have to kick your son out of school because he has tattoos and he's waving guns around in videos. But we like them like he's doing so good.

We're going to put him online. I mean, we're going to put them on an online class. Really? They can do that now. Wow. They spell you, but then they still put you on the online classes. So I thought they were going to like transfer me to like Star. Like Star is like the bad school type shit.

So I thought they was going to put me in there. But they just gave me the online classes. And I said, fuck it. I came to California like two days after. And I paid somebody to do my online classes. I said, fuck that shit. This nigga, what? Kick me out of school?

I eat my dick up. I'm gone. Bye, Alabama. See you later. Right. Damn. So you never looked back. Do you feel like you just kind of like, like, like now that you've been in the game for a while,

you must be able to look at those times in your life and be like, holy fuck. Like, my life changed so fast. I wasn't ready for it. But like, how did it feel in the moment of just seeing all your dreams come true and you're not even out of high school yet? Words can't even describe how I felt full. just different like at the point like it was it was like 50 50 because I didn't know what I wanted to do I was like damn do I leave home just leave all this behind or do I go to California and change my

whole life and I want to California and change my whole life but I still look back and when I looked back about a lot of shit I ended up getting fucked over I ended up getting to the point to where I couldn't do shit and I started reminiscing about home and all that type of shit so I had to just move past it you said fucked over you mean by yeah like hell of niggas like not fuck over like but just it's like I've seen a lot of people, a lot of my close friends changed because they thought I switched up on them. But the whole time I'm still, you feel me, giving you bread when you need it, putting your mama in a position where she need to be. You feel me doing shit like that? But everybody was like, damn, this nigga not down here.

What does he switched up? But I'm making money to do shit for y'all. Like, I'm putting y'all in a position where y' I'm supposed to be at. It's only a few people that understood that and those people that was in Alabama when me came out here with me. Right. But it's a lot of motherfuckers that was on weird shit. I started getting a lot of hate, dissongs, and shit that I, niggas. that I never knew and shit. It was just weird.

Like, it was like a bunch of weird shit going on. So I say, fuck it. Like, I couldn't, that's why I moved everybody out of there, too. I got everybody from out of Alabama that I really cared about, got him to California. I said, fuck that shit. It's nothing to, I can't look back on it. Like, you feel me, I know where I'm from. I know from Birmingham, Alabama, but you'll never see me staying there.

Right, because it's like, not only are you not ready for all the positive shit that was about to happen in your life, but then also, like, you're surrounded by young-ass people that don't understand how to be a team player or don't understand how to just be a rider and be along for like i've seen it enough times now that if if one of my friends blew up as a rapper i would know exactly how to deal with it you know if you're 16 what are you really going to do like like a lot of these people probably think that like

oh he's getting money now i'm supposed to be getting just as much money right exactly that's how a lot of people expected it to be but a lot of people was in the same position as me at the time like you feel me I wasn't this rich, famous, riding, Bentley, Rose Royce every day type of, you feel me, kid with a career. I had my career and I had money, but I wasn't doing all that type of stuff. I was laid back, cool, catch me in a Lexus or something like normal with money. So it was like it was no reason for people to do all that bullshit that they did. I feel you.

So, okay, you come out to L.A., what was your mentality on signing and what did it take to actually get you to sign? and how do you feel about the decision that you made? I signed and it was like, shit, I'm getting some bread. Right. Like, you feel me? That's all that really matters. There's a big chunk of money, more money than you ever seen before,

and a lot of people is, like, irresistible. Yeah, it's like a lot of people told me don't sign, but a lot of people told me sign too. And I felt like my mom telling me to sign and my people around me telling me to sign is the right choice. So when I sign, I felt like it was the right choice. Now I know I should have paid attention to more of this stuff, but at the time I'm 17, fuck it.

I'm putting my family in a position that's way better than what we were in. So I looked at it like, it is what it is. We're doing better than what we was. Right. So it's not really a fuck-up, but later on in the long run, you could do more stuff when you're independent. But it's not really too bad. Right. But do you, because I've heard you kind of put the blame on the label recently for your album, not having come out, where you were kind of like, I made the album.

And it felt like what you were saying in those tweets was basically that the label wasn't ready to get behind the project. so it was kind of out of your hands, which has got to be a weird feeling. It's not really the label. Like, when I talk about shit like that, it's not the label. It's like older niggas in the background. Like, it's people that play a part dealing with the label. Not the label, but people dealing with, like, management, people who overheaded some other people that niggas dig suck, shit like that.

Like, it's nothing dealing with, you feel me, my label situation or my deal. It's dealing with older motherfuckers that play a part in something else. Interesting. So what's the future of your album? Like, where's your mentality at on that? And how do you feel about just having, you know, most people manage to get a project out, even if it's like a crappy EP of like six, seven songs

plus the single. A lot of people end up getting that out within the first, you know, six months no matter what. It's kind of out of the ordinary that you haven't dropped like a full project yet. I know, to be honest, the buildup is just crazy. Like it went down, it went up. It went down.

It went up. But I just know when I drop my album, it's going to be the music that people want to hear. So it's going to go, like, the way I expected to go. Right. It's amazing to me. like the music's still amazing to me i played in the car like till today type shit like so it's not really the music i will always put out is really music that's that's giving people the other side of me

like so they can really know me type shit and it's not just for them to know me i'm stepping in other people's shoes too so i can know them and they're going to feel what i'm talking about when they hear right so but is that something that you're worried about to an extent because like obviously you came out talking something bang bang shoot them up shit and a big part of your fan base at that time especially was probably just really excited. Look at this young-ass kid saying he's going to shoot me. But, you know, we've seen artists, their fan bases, like, not be along for the ride when they really start to grow as a person or whatever.

Like, what's your attitude on that? And how far into your introspective J. Cole bag are you planning on going? It's not a J-Cole bag. Much respect to J-Cole. You feel me? It's really, like, my own shit. Like, it's not really changing too much. I'm going to still speak my shit and do whatever I'm doing.

But it's like real music. Like, you feel me? I make music for me, but this music was for me and other people for real. I felt like. So you feel me? The stuff that I was putting out and the shit that is just coming out is just music that I like or music that, you know, is whatever. But right now with my album, it's stuff that I feel like it's going to relate to everybody's

situations. Right. So it'll affect people in a different type of way than my normal music. Right. Yeah, because I mean, especially take, like, if you would put out like a straight gangster their album like immediately, then people probably would have been like, okay, this is what we're expecting to hear. But if it's going to take four years, people probably want to see some growth. They know you've been in the game for this long that you have to have pick some shit

up along the way and have something more interesting to say than necessarily what you came out saying, right? Especially with everybody around you do it so good. Like, they expect you to do more. So it's like, you got to shy. It's nothing that you could do to downplay yourself or let other people downplay you you gotta shine when everybody else around you winning you gotta win too so i feel like when my shit come out is gonna be the the right substance to make everything right right right are you are you on it right now like yo we got to drop this album now because the shit's going crazy on ticot we might as well hurry up and do it around now at least hell no i'm not even forcing

it i know it's gonna come out this year okay but i'm not trying to force nothing like everything is in other people's hands right now so i'm letting everybody else go with they flow see how they feel and shit we're gonna go from there but i feel like it should come out tomorrow God damn, you feel me, but I don't want to force it and rush it. You want to tell me who's got features on it? I'll tell you, one person, that's, you feel me? That's about it. I don't really want to spoil it, because I got a hell of people.

I mean, Skies on there. Okay. You feel me? That's my brother. We're going to crank it like. You still close with Skies? Yeah, I'm still close with Skies. We don't really be talking too much, but like, that's my brother.

So I'll chop it up on about some real shit anytime. Right, because, I mean, Skies is kind of fascinating because he really, like, blew the fuck up and then just decided to, like, take like, a year and a half off, which you don't really see a lot of hot new rappers doing. Because he's going through real life shit. It's real life shit that people go through and they expect like, they expect like superstars because because it's a superstar, I mean like a superstar.

Like he's just not a rapper or artist. Like he's a superstar. So you feel me? They expect people like that to have a normal mentality and just be solid with everything and be perfect with everything, but we still go through the same shit that they go through every day type shit.

It's weird because we got so much money and we got so much pride and we got so much shit that we can provide everybody with and our career is perfect but we still go through like real life shit we could go through a breakup and be sad as fuck for a long time like hell of shit like it's like little tiny shit one of the homies

could get smacked you going through that it's like it's stuff that could throw it off when everything going so good so I know I understand how could feel like with certain shit do you ever have that urge to just kind of fall away from the spotlight for a while or do you ever like take a couple months to just be like tell your management

and like, yo, don't put anything on my schedule. Because that's a very different mentality than running around, doing shows, doing features, doing songs all the time, which is, that's what it really is to be a rapper, but a lot of times you want a little down time. I did that one time. I think it was like 2018, 2019.

It was like I just pushed myself away from everything. Like, I was in Europe. I forgot what year it was. I really, it was my first tour in Europe, though. So I really had pushed myself away from everything. I was just like, yeah, bro. Like, this is making me focus on my life. starting to notice shit in a different way

I'm starting to see other people's true colors because I'm not smoking out there like you know I couldn't get no backwoods that's why I was drunk on the video you gotta get on the splits when you're out in England I tried it didn't work I went to England and I came back and smoked nothing but splits for a year and I just finally got back on the woods a couple months ago bro I swear to God it's the nicotine I feel like

but um yeah fool it was just like I pushed everything away type shit and um yeah I just I just noticed a lot of stuff while I was pushing stuff away and it was for the better better part of me. Like I started to understand myself in a different type of way.

Start to understand myself more better and start to understand everything around me more better type shit. So when you put stuff away, even though it feels like it's good, sometimes it could be better for you. Right. Because you feel me like,

I don't know. If you got a mom, like if your mom telling you something, then you'll understand what I'm talking about because my mom always got the right answers and I don't want to listen. But this one time I listened and I pushed myself away from all this shit

that was going on like even my career. And I sat back, and then I came back, and it was crazy. Like, I had a whole different mentality about shit. Right. So you feel me? It was better for my mindset. And especially when you came in the game, it felt like, I always tell rappers, like if you're talking tough shit in your raps,

you're going to have a lot of people who want issues with you. And it felt like for a while, it was like everybody wanted to either try to press not me or try to say, like, it just felt like you were just attracting them almost more negative energy at first because so many people were seeing you as a potential come-up. I mean, because it's like, shit, they see a baby. Maybe. Like, you feel me? Like, I could look at anybody and call them a bitch. Like, who's going to show somebody that they're a bitch for real? It's just like, I don't know. It's, there ain't nothing ever happened to me in person like to where it's like something that'll, you feel me? Fuck with me. Like, on a personal level, like, I've never been robbed. I never, nothing ever been took from me. I never been beat up. I mean, in middle school type shit. But, like, even before that, like, high school, like, that's when I turned my whole mentality around. like all right i got to protect myself right so it's it's always gonna be internet shit it's always gonna be shit in the background fake shit that's not real because it was like people wanted

something to happen you so bad that i remember the england thing where like it was a whole story of like now i'm here got jumped in england or whatever i said i got my chain took and all that said i was like what the fuck but were you not even there they were looking for you or something no i'm i'm one of the type of niggas that's gonna tell it how it is like it was like the little europe shit we got to fight it out there it's all on video and all that shit we got in a fight out there and wood-a-woo. You feel me?

I guess they took one of their home boys chains or some shit and just act like it was mine but I got on say cheese and all that

shit and I was just like yeah I got my chains right there, the middle one? Yeah, all my chains like the same ones I was wearing

and shit like it's like, it's like, it wasn't really, it's not no shit that where it's that bad it was just like a little squabble like it was kids

they was 17, 18, 18 my age it wasn't no grown-ass men or no jail shit or nothing like that it was just like a little quick squabble and they made it

into a whole different thing when I left like they turned it into like... Cloud Wars man Like some other shit I don't know they turned I don't know It was different Because I went to London And it wasn't really that bad

Like I'm not saying London not that bad Because I know it's bad parts everywhere Like I know it's bad parts everywhere But like I don't know it just be like Weirdos Like on the internet and shit They try to like make it seem like

It's the worst place in the world Like to do something Like we went there to go do our shows And visit Like we wasn't trying to to get on no bullshit. They came to us and we just did our shit. Yeah, I went to England one time, and me and my homies got jumped by about 40 high school kids. So they didn't really get us that good or anything, but they had us fucking scrambling. Well, I'm 17. I'm just doing my squabble. I'm

like, okay. Like, we're going to squabble. Okay, you want to fight? We're going to fight. Like, 17. So it's like, what? It ain't no grown-ass man shit. It wasn't even no grown-ass man out there. Everybody was our age. Like, some school shit. Like, I'm just out of school, going to the year from the first time. A little quick little squabble. I feel you. Yeah, when we were talking about you, like, advancing your music and stuff, one song that I remember was a pain away. I was watching that on YouTube last night. I was like, oh, man, I fucking love that song and that song first came out.

And that's a pretty good example of you, you know, kind of going in a different angle and like really talking about your emotions, feelings, that kind of shit, right? Hell yeah. I mean, I shot the whole video with my family. So, like, that kind of brought like a good space to me, too. Like, it was like, I don't know. Everything at the time was just perfect to me because I was around my family. like right and i did the song around people i cared about think you feel me it's a hell of shit that was going right at the time so i feel like it was

one of them right little moments i got you um yeah because i mean this is the thing that people always are kind of amazed by and stuff was that you basically like kind of okay let's contextualize what y bn was around the time that you were blowing up like when rubbing off the pen came off did you already kind of have it in your head that it's going to be me corday and jay or was that sort of It came together after or something. Yeah, no. It was like, okay, so you feel me? Let me see where it was.

It was like 2016. Like the end of 2016, I was, uh, I was like, fuck it. Let me get a computer. I got a real computer and shit, like a desktop. I started really recording music and all that. So Glizzy, he was like, bro, we doing this YB and shit, and I don't give a fuck what you're talking about. And like, Lizzie, my right hand man, like,

it was me, Vali and my homeboy Glizzy. So it was type of shit like my home boy, Valley passed away and all that. So, it's just being, uh, me and Glizzy, we're chopping it up every day. Like, we're not going to work for no other man or nothing. We're going to have our own jobs and all that shit. You feel me? Ever since then, I was just, like, taking music serious.

Like, it was something that motivated me out of cuss. Like, I swear to God, like, he had that, he had that motivation. Like, he don't give a fuck about nobody. That's what's so crazy. Like, his pride so high, he don't give a fuck. Like, even back in the day, like, He used to be like, I'm here,

shut the fuck up. Like, bro, get out of here. Like, you act like a kid and shit like that. His pride always been so high. But it was just one time, like, we was talking with my homeboy Untoan, he's from New Zealand,

and he don't believe in God or none of that. And I was like, bro, I'm working at journeys right now. It's like, Wow. It's like, that's a move. That's a move. So I'm already making my little music

trying to do whatever I'm doing and not getting no views for real, like probably like a thousand views. You feel me? And it's one day we just talking to each other and shit. He don't believe in God or nothing. And he was like, Lizzie was talking to him. He was like, fool, you just got to pray this one time.

Like, fool, I know you do all the devil worship and shit. And I know you be playing around because you don't believe. But, like, fool, just believe this one time, fool. And the same night, he prayed. And then the next day, World Star hit me up to post my video and shit. And I was like, damn. No, matter of fact, World Star didn't hit me up to post my video. I woke up in my video was at 50,000 views.

And I was like, damn. Then I went to school and I was like, yeah, y'all see my video. They was like, yeah. Oh, my God. You're doing good. And like two days later, World Star hit me. I swear to God,

I just felt like it was because my homeboy had prayed that one time. And I felt like Lizzie gave him the motivation, it gave me the motivation to do this shit. Damn, that's dope.

But so then that gets popping and are you, like, what was your relationship with those guys at that time? And how did you, like, are you thinking like, because, you know, that's always a big decision

if your career comes out. I never met them in person. That's crazy. Like, I always talk to them over the game and I started fucking with them on the computer. So it was just like,

after that, I blew up. Then I was like, damn, I ain't talked to Jay in like a year. Let me talk to this, nigga. He hit me up, he seen me blowing up and shit. Hally at Jay, I'm like, fool.

What's up? What you're gonna do? He's like, nigga, my mom fin to send me to the army, nigga. I'm gonna go to the military. I'm like, what? I'm like, oh, hell no, fuck that. Come to Alabama. So he just leave without his mom permission

and ride with his homeboys, come to Alabama and shit. And it's the same day, Glyzie on the train. Like, Glezy and his brother, they on the train to come to Alabama because they just want to fuck with me and I got a show coming up, but they canceled the show and shit, like my first ever show. So it's like everything fell in together at the same place.

And then Corday came in later on at Rolling Loud like 2017 and we start fucking with him for real. Right. And then he came in a place too. And you feel me? We all just went up from then. But your quote was, they left this YBN shit in the dirt. Yeah. That was some real shit.

It was like, wow, you can actually like, I felt like you had been holding that in for a while, like thinking about maybe I just won't ever address this. and then you finally start to just let it spill out. I mean, like, it's because it's like, it'd be hell of shit in the background. But at the end of the day, we all brothers. We all are going to say something that's going to fuck up the image of this shit. We all going to fuck around and slip up, do something that's going to fuck up the image of this shit.

It's always going to be something with a group. So, you feel, you can't really take that and just be like, man, he don't give a fuck about him or SB for, like, they don't really care. Because at the end of the day, they do care. Right. And I fucked up by saying that shit too. I know that hurt their feelings by saying that. Really?

So, yeah, it was just like they were just over it by that point. So you weren't saying anything that they would really disagree with. Emotions being mad and shit. It's like hell of shit going on. Like, everybody not hanging with each other. Everybody doing their own shit. So it's like, you never know. They could last out on me.

They last out on me before. I'd last out on them before. So it's like. In your mind, would you have like to have seen the YBN thing be more like a group where you are always just moving together. and if you had a show, they had a show, and if you're doing this, you're doing this? In your mind, was that how you wanted it to be?

Or did you want everybody to be their own separate thing? That's how I wanted it to be like that. And everybody started doing, I wanted everybody to do their separate thing, to be honest. Like, not a group, but as a group. Like, you feel me, everybody going their own tours and all that shit, but you keep this shit while I be in. But the old niggas in the background,

you got to remember, it's always somebody that'll come around, fill your head up, and fuck it over. So that's what happens. It'll be old people or somebody else that tell you, yeah, yeah, woo-woo, you better than them, they don't give a fuck about you, Woodoo, do that shit. You feel me? And that filled up all our heads, not just me, not just Jay, not Corday, but other YBM members, too. Right.

You feel me? And it's a shame, because it's like if everybody sticks together, I feel like you could build something that's bigger than any one of you independently, but it takes sticking together. Hell yeah, that's how you take advantage of a young kid, though. We're 17, 18. We're not really thinking. We just came out of nothing from bullshit. shit. You feel me? They just know how to, when you know how to speak and when you got money and

you know how to do some shit and you know how to take advantage of somebody, you know how to manipulate a kid. So you feel me? That's what they did to all of us. Interesting. Type shit. But it's easy to do it when you older. But did you feel like you guys were ever really destined to be that group? Because I remember when I did that interview with you guys that it was kind of crazy. You were all like sort of just clowning on each other and fucking with each other. And it was like very different types of people, which is like if you go see an interview with Amigos, I mean, they basically might as well be the same person for the purpose of this interview. They are their own person.

That's how we normally are, fool. That's how he is on a daily basis. Like, Corday always the nerd. This nigga Jay always the fucking goofball. I'm always like the whatever. You were more chill. Corday is like the sensitive one. And then Jay is like hella aggressive and fucking with everybody and trolling.

Yeah. I don't know. Sometimes it's different. Like we all act like each other sometimes. Right. It's different. We just, mm-mm. Like, we're,

It was a group for a reason. Like, we're still a group to this day. It still feels like a group or you don't see that that way. I don't really trip off it. It is what it is. I just know I'm doing my own thing is Wabian. I'm here, so. Right.

But that's YBN, like, they all played they part in this shit. Jay played this part, where they played this part, everybody. And back of this shit played their part, especially Manny and Gleazy. So, you know what I'm saying? Everybody did their shit. And they did the right way. So I expect people to move on and do better so they can make this shit better too. I expect other groups to pop up from other members that is YBian shit.

because it's going to make it better. At the end of the day, we're going to get more money. Right. We're going to have more leverage to do some more shit. Because what if somebody get a higher little level of what it's not supposed to be and a nigga get right there, you feel me? It's like it's going to be a whole little leverage that we can have. Right.

So it's like a bunch of stuff we could do. If you had to do that again, would you have actually signed them to deals? Because a lot of people who look at that situation are like, damn, Namir put out a whole mixtape with these dudes really helped do a lot to blow their career up. And then after that, it didn't really go in. anywhere and they have their own careers now? If I had it in my hands and I was independent and I had like YBN as a label in my hands

and could do whatever I wanted to do, you feel me? They would be signing me like under my name, under my shit and we'd be solid, but it's not like that because old niggas is involved. And that's what Corday was talking about old niggas. Really? So you think he kind of agrees with it, at least on that? That it's like that kind of skewed?

If I talk to Corday right now and he pulled it up to this motherfucker, he's going to agree with everything I'm saying. Jay going to agree with the same. Same shit. When do you guys, or how often you guys talk? When's the last time you had a good conversation? I talked to Jay like a good week ago. We'd be playing a game together on a little.

Right, because now with COVID, you're back on Twitch and shit, huh? Yeah, we'd be on Twitch together and shit. So he, this nigga's a good boy. I swear to God, this is gonna be having me dying. But, uh. Because you guys were running around together, doing all these shows and everything for a while. Like Corday was kind of separate from a lot of that, right? Like at the end, like, really like, when we stopped going on tour and we was just doing our own thing,

it really wasn't a time to where where they could like really give up on us or like it could be a time to where he wasn't doing shit right he went on tour like after we got off tour so it was like all right we just gonna chill and do our own shit for a minute how you feel about him being on the cover of GQ and having a mega high profile girlfriend

that shit is hard I'm proud of that nigga for that nobody could have seen that coming I mean a couple years ago I didn't see it coming like that shit crazy but when you see something like that do you hit him up and say hey congrats her hell no because he already know like I'll post it right I usually post shit on my

my Instagram when it's dealing with them niggas. Like when it's important, like they already know like, ooh. Like, I got to, it feels so good just to know they're winning at the end of the day. Like, you know they provide for their family, know they're doing the right things, keeping their head out of the bullshit. Like, because Jay didn't, he didn't grow up so much

since I'd met him. Where they grew up, too. Like, just to see everybody grow up and do the right shit for their family, it just means a lot, to be honest. I mean, Jay's had some wilds ups and downs. I mean, like him dating Black China, It was like such a huge thing when that happened Even though like you know, it ain't like he's the only one But it hadn't been the hottest nigga in the world

Like kid I don't know So it bro That's good to hear that you guys are still on cool terms though It doesn't sound like you have any kind of animosity or whatever Because I think a lot of people thought that for a while Hell yeah I know how it is I mean shit It'll never be like that

It can never be no real beef or nothing like that Or just fuck them niggas Right But are you still I wouldn't I wouldn't I wouldn't really hurt them Right They'll probably be like, fuck you, niggas, hurt your feelings.

But like, you feel me? I love them, niggas. They love me. My brothers. I got you. So are you working on developing anybody else under YBN in terms of, like, artists and stuff? It's a whole lot of shit that I don't want to speak about right now. People you've known for a long time or newer talent you found?

A long time. And it's hell of people, too. It's like people that you know, people that's already famous. It's going to be weird. Really? It's going to be like, damn, niggas changing their names and shit. You're going to put Joey Fouts on YBM? Then they go already YVN.

If he changed his name to YBN Joey Fats, I would be right. How did you guys become so tight? You all of a sudden were coming to the store, kicking with him all the time? My brother, shit. I was the first person he was talking to when he got out of the jail or shit. Oh, really? Okay. So, you feel me? That's like, every since then, that's been my brother.

I came out here and I went to the Long Beach. So it's like, this is my family, like everything since then. Right. Yeah, I mean, you need, well, you don't need, but it's good to have somebody who can help you understand the lay of the land out here in L.A. It gets complicated. So I always thought that was kind of. kind of random that you guys became friends, but like what was, what even got you guys talking with each other? Shit, just, I don't know, known the same people that we knew. He, I mean,

hit me up before he went to jail too, like right when my song was blowing up and shit, and um, yeah, I ain't even see it or nothing. But then I had, I seen him when he got out, chopped it up with him and I was like, damn, bro, like I should have knew this nigga was gonna hit me up or something because I've been fucking with Joe, you know, like his music and all that back in the day. Right, no. So, um, like we just knew the same people, had the same connections and we start fucking with each other after that after we chopped it up. Well that's what's up. Yeah, but that's a thorough nigga out.

But you were young as hell. Yeah, I was 17. And he knew what the fuck was going on. I'm not gonna lie, I've seen Joey Fats drinking a lot of lean before. Doing all kinds of things. You feel like he was ever a bad impression on you or- Bad influence? Fuck, no, it's my big brother.

He never did nothing that's going to put me in a harm's way. Oh, fuck no. Like, a nigga always looked out for me in the right way. Like, he don't even do no bullshit like that around me. Right. He don't drink. around you? Fuck, no.

I didn't get on a drink lean no way. Oh, he's over that. Okay. That was a few years ago. That was like 2017, 2016. I can't put that evil on them. That was years ago. He never just sip no lean around me.

Really? So I don't really know. So you never got, like, you never started popping pills or drinking lean or anything like that? I never popped no fucking pill. I never didn't. You say it like everybody your age doesn't do this shit. I ain't going to lie. Like, that's what I ain't ever been no pill pop or I ain't ever sip no lien.

I might drink some alcohol or smoke some weed, but I don't really do too much of the extra. I don't really do too much of the extra. SoundCloud, thugging, thugging. That's good. You feel me? I mean, it's normal people that do that shit, too, but I couldn't do it. I don't know if my body could take it. I'm too skinny for that shit.

I wouldn't even want to try it. Yeah, that's a bad idea for the career. It never really ends up that well. Yeah, bro, I fuck around and die. I feel you. How's your girlfriend doing? She's doing good. Salt.

How long you guys been together? Three years. Three years. So pretty soon after you blew up, you met her? Yeah, like right after her damn there. Right. Yeah, it was crazy. What brought you guys together?

I mean, right after it. I did my shit. Like, I was, you feel me, going on tour and all that stuff before I met her. Right. Yeah, I met her in, like, I met her August 2018. Like, that's when we first started dating for real. Right. So, you feel me?

After that, it was like, it was a click. What keeps you guys having a strong relationship? Like, what? Normal shit. What's the connection? She's not extra. I'm not extra. She'd just be cooling.

I be cooling. That's really it. Right. Like, she perfect. I'm perfect to her. Hey, I seen a YouTube video where she was like, I don't know, it was like on her. channel she's talking about something and you look high as hell just eating a bowl of cereal laughing and giggling the whole time i was like what is this hell yeah shit it'll be shit like that all the time

bro i don't i don't really be in the youtube videos or nothing no more because like she she really be at her house doing her own thing too because she got her own life too she do shit she got her own money that she got to make i got my own money that i got to make so when we together we're really just chilling it's not like all the cameras and instagram and all that shit but we'll take a picture we go out to eat or something but just chilling it's a a very big decision for a rapper in this day and age that one your girlfriend wants you to be in their youtube videos or their tic talks or whatever like just drawing that line and be like baby i'm not i'm not doing the junebug challenge with you oh no no no it comes down to some certain shit that i ain't going

do like yeah i ain't going to do some shit man certain dances you got you some dances hell no no i ain't finny hit no dances i ain't finn't hit the motherfuckers i swear to god you ain't never going to catch me freaky dancing in the mirror with my girl freaking freaking stinky dance. I like call it that that. What? The bunny hopping in the mirror and shit. I ain't what? Yeah, no. There's definitely, there's a line to be drawn there for sure. Yeah, I ain't gonna do that.

Okay, so do you remember that time that you and Joey Fats pulled up and we're filming like an Instagram skit or some shit? You threw fucking eggs and you, I just remember you hit Josh's car and his car had egg on it for like two weeks. I swear to God, I remember that shit. And I never said the video. I never even got to see myself like jogging away from these eggs. I swear to God, I knew exactly what you was talking about and you ain't even have to say.

A little prankster right here. Bro, I swear to God, that was just like when I was just driving through everywhere. Like, I was like, bro, I want to see everywhere in LA. And he was like, man, fuck that. We're going to go to no jumper. I was like, what you mean? And we're going to get a carton of eggs. I was like, what you mean?

I was like, man, fuck that, bro. If we're going somewhere, let's prank somebody. I was like, let's get a paintball gun. It was like, nah, bro, you're going to go to jail. Yeah, that's a bad idea. Yeah, I was like, fuck it. Let's get some eggs. He was like, yeah, we can get some eggs.

I couldn't believe it. Yeah, bro. I see a car driving up slow in the back of the shit where like loading something in somebody's car or something And I see the car movement so I'm a little worried and then I realize it's you guys and then all of a sudden there's eggs being thrown Luckily I didn't get hit you dodged it so quick I swear to God we got it I got agility I was dying on this sexes man I swear to God I was dying at that shit for like a week bro Like I couldn't believe I was waiting for the video to come out before I could clap back at you guys and say something back But then all of a sudden I don't think I ever saw it

But I had called you right before I was like hey bro you at the shop. That's such good, good nature, like, good, good, clean, fun, humor, you know? It's like, go toss some eggs. That's what kids should do instead of shooting each other. Good times, good times. Toilet paper their house. Yeah, toilet paper is somebody house, man.

Oh, I'm saying. Okay, so, I'm just sort of looking through here right now. Okay, so how do you feel about GTA6 potentially being released soon? That shit fake as hell. You don't believe it's going to happen? No. Really? Why not?

You're deeper in the community than me, so. Because it's like, GTA5 is still, it's still more shit getting added. Are they really? They still work on it? Yeah, they still working on hell of shit for GTA 5. And then right now, like, I don't know if they see like five in popping or not, but I just got a feeling like it's not going to come out no time soon. All the little GTA trailers and all the little want to be promo for it is really GTA 5 on the computer. Right.

So it's all fake. But in terms of what you think of streaming, like, is that the primary thing that you stream or do you stream any other games? Yeah, I really just streamed GTA. I mean, I'll probably hop on Call of Duty like, no, I wouldn't even hop on Call of Duty on stream. That shit lag too much.

Yeah, I'm just on GTA for real. You never went, Fortnite? Mm-mm, fuck, no, I never even played that shit. Really? Hell, no, that shit ass in me. Wow. You sound like me. I don't fucking, I'm totally clueless when it comes to Fortnite,

and I always just think, like, Because when I was young, you know, I would play shooter games like that all the time. And then I just got out of us. So, boy, now I'm like, oh, damn, that shit's like a fucking Olympic sport all of a sudden. Yeah, Call of Duty was cool. I mean, it's kind of ass right now because everybody cheating on that motherfucker. It's kind of weird. Everybody too good on it now, too.

It's like I came too late on the Call of Duty. But Grand Thefts Out of, yeah, ain't nobody fucking with us. A fee. It's good to know. Okay, so in terms of what you've got coming up and everything that's going on your life and shit, what are you excited about in terms of, you know, day-to-day basis right now. Anything you've been working on? You're hype on? I'm excited for my album to come out, even though I know it's going to take time.

And everybody, I'm going to let everybody do their own shit. I'm really excited for it to come out because I know it's going to put me back in a place where I'm supposed to be. My music right now and I'm about the job going to put me in the same position I was before. Even though I never left or nothing. It's not like I left my position, but I kind of did fall back a minute to where it's like I got to prove myself a little bit. So I understand that. So when my new music come out, I'm excited for it because it's a music. that I like. It's not music that it's just going to get put out. Like it's gonna be some turn shit, so.

Yeah. I mean, it's kind of interesting though, because I've seen, like, you know, you've done songs like on your YouTube in the past year or so that, like, you've had like big crazy star-studded feature videos with fucking G-Easy and all this kind of shit. But when you look at that, do you think that that is like, is that your ideal type of shit is to do these big crazy collabs or like, what is your ideal fucking version of YBN Amir right now? Whole songs. That's what they want right now. They want a song that's like, all right, let me hear what the fuck he's going to talk about this time. But it's going to be perfect.

It's no way around it. It's not going to be perfect. Like, my new shit is amazing. I just can't wait for people to hear it. That's what's up. Yeah, because I feel like, especially when somebody doesn't have a project for a long period of time or whatever,

and in this day and age, if you come out and your shit just sounds kind of generic and you're just talking about whatever, it's just people don't react to that shit, you know? They really want to see development. and like see you talking about some real shit.

You see a lot of rappers like kind of hold back on talking about their personal lives until they drop an album and then they actually like give you a lot more of themselves. Is this project gonna be more like that? Yeah, damn near. It's like me giving more of myself. I feel you.

It's good news, man. Yeah, shit crazy. I'm excited for it for sure. Okay, anybody you want to thank? Anything else we should mention? Shit. I mean, thank you to everybody, I guess. I mean, like, shit, where would I be without y'all?

Thank you, Adam, because you feel me? We out here. We did this. shit, man. Like, you feel me? Shout on no jumper, man. If you ain't watching to eat that dick up, you stupid bitch, that's about it. Wow. Can we sample that? That was pretty good. We need labels permission or something. Make that our new catchline.

Hold on. That was the end? That was the end? No. But I mean, we can keep going with it. Oh, damn. I was going to say it right there, nigga. Fucking nigga, me. Me. Me. Yeah. Give you out of here type of shit. All right. Yeah. Why be in the mirror? Nojamba. Coolest podcast. The world. Check us on YouTube, like, comment. Subscribe.

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