No Jumper - The Young Drummer Boy Interview

Episode Date: September 2, 2019

Young Drummer Boy came through the No Jumper studio to do this blazing hot interview. Check it! 3:08 Performance in El Paso? 6:16 Working with Rucci and Stupid Young 7:26 Inspirations & beginnings 10:46 Coming up in Pomona 11:35 Hard to get booked in Pomona 12:34 "Enemies" coming to my shows 13:41 Growing up in Pomona, family environment 14:49 I didn't know how poor my family was and my brother working hard to make millions 17:57 Started making music to not be in the streets? 21:32 Gangsta music & diss track culture 24:48 Spotify money 25:47 Making beats vs being a rapper 28:23 My cousin getting life with his homie who was 14 31:14 Lucky to be free while my friends are in jail 32:21 Gangsta rap while having young fans 35:15 King Lil G connect 37:34 Snitching in music and during Vlad interviews 40:05 How clickbait works 41:33 Drummer Boy doesn't like to do interviews 46:22 6ix9ine 49:06 What's next for Drummer Boy FOLLOW OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST! https://spoti.fi/2vi9lsD CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/nojumper and iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/no-jumper/id1001659715?mt=2 and follow us on Social Media: http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm follow Adam22 as well: http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 and follow adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world, and I am here today with Pomona's very own, your drummer boy. How are you feeling, G? I'm feeling good, man. Just got back, just touched down from Texas, so. Yeah, they fucking around with your flight, though? Yeah, they fucked around with the flight for sure, bro. They fucked me over. So you're on like, no sleep or something like that?

No sleep, bro. We did the show. The show was like a success. It was good, man. You know what I mean? That was my first time performing in Al Paso, because I've been around Texas a few times, but that was my first time performing there, so I went up. And then...

That's crazy because I was in my hotel room, look out the window, and you can see Mexico. Yeah, you see the whole border and everything. It's like, I'm like, holy shit. We're like two miles away from this shit right now. You ain't lying. And they got everything. And they pulled out some like fucking straight Coke and you know that shit was pure as fuck, bro. I mean, I don't fuck with it, but I can tell.

I know the motherfuckers was... You can tell what you smelled it? You could tell by the way it smelled? I just know. You just know, bro. If you're next to the border, come on, man. You got to know. If you got bad coke and you're that close to Mexico, then you really ain't doing much for

You like, you know what I mean? A little couple steps away from it. You better have some flight. But you were talking about the dilemma that you had where you had the show and then it was like you could have gone home and got some sleep or you went out and you parted on that? The thing is was there. I went out, you know what I'm saying? They called me out there since it was my first time.

I was like, fuck it. The show went great and all that. And then they were like, hey, we're going to have this after party. So you know what I mean? My boy, my boy, JD, you know what I'm saying? He wanted to roll through. So I was like, fuck it. I know we shouldn't have done it, but we did it.

So we stayed up. How old they just stay up? To six. Till six. Normally when people stay up until six is because they're doing cocaine when they're not close to the border. I understand you don't want to admit it on camera. I'll admit it. I mean, you know, my fans know I can't real as fuck.

You know what I mean? But yeah, I fucked with it before. But it's been like eight years, nine years and shit. You know what I'm saying? How old are you? 30. 30s, yeah. That's around the time that it doesn't start feeling the same.

Like, I remember in my 20s when I was doing coke. I would wake up the next day and not even be thinking about it. Yeah. And now it's like if I fuck around with it. day, which I don't really anymore just because it fucks my shit up so bad. But if I did have a night where I went on and got drunk into some blow, I'm definitely gonna be fucking hurting the next day. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

Sometimes shit traumatizes you and shit, you just don't fuck with it after. It makes you feel different. That's a weird joke too, because it's just like an intense ass 15 minutes. It's not like, you gotta just keep doing it if you want to do it. It's not like, you could pop a Molly or some shit and you just be like, you got a whole night ahead of you. Or like, you know, you drink some lean. It's like, you ain't gonna forget that you drink some lean until a while.

later. Yeah, no, that's the thing about Coke. You're gonna keep doing it all fucking night. You know what I'm saying? So I saw like, I was like, no, I'm good off of this shit. Yeah. Have you? No, a homie tried something though. I ain't gonna lie. He tried something and shit, you know what I mean? You know, so that shit was that. That ain't nothing wrong with trying it. It's not like, you're going to junkie just because you go on vacation and do a little drugs. But like, you might have a heart attack. Yeah, I knew I shouldn't have went to the after party, but I was like, fuck it, we got to get it to the airport at 6 a.m. I said, fuck, going to sleep. It was already

three, bro. I was like, that shit ain't going to work. I wasn't going to wake up. So I was like, we just going to stay up and just do that. What's a young drummer boy show in El Paso like? Because, like, your music definitely like speaks to the Mexican community a lot and that's like the whole culture out there. I just imagine it's like a very unique vibe. Man, it was a lot of, it was a lot of love, especially because that shit that just went down at that Walmart over there. Oh my God, right? That's a great point. Yeah, that shit. I went over there. I pay my respects and shit, you know what I'm saying? I went, you know, I talked about it at the show. You know what I mean? Because you know, they were targeting Mexicans in that

and that, you know, the dude that did that crazy shit. And it was the day that there were two fucking terrorist attacks in the same day by dudes who seemed like they were from the same political ideology or some shit. Yeah, I mean, I'll keep it real. I'm like, I'm not really in touch with the whole politics side and like, you know what's saying, what

really going on? But I, you know what I keep my attention to shit that happens and shit like that. So when I went out there, I paid my respects. And then the whole, you know, that shit was packed, bro, like, pack the fuck out. And it was just all love, man. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm gonna go back for sure. I'll just tell you that much. That's what's up. Yeah. Texas is amazing in general, for sure. Like, just the music scene and how

excited people are about everything. And it's like it's its own fucking country because there's so many different cities and markets out there. It's crazy. There's a lot of rappers from Texas, like GT, G. G.T. Garza, that's the homie. You know what I'm saying? But over here in Cali didn't, like, we don't really fuck with the artists out there. It's weird, bro. And they be slapping. Like, they got some good shit. But there's, there are a lot of their blowing up. I feel like Megan the Stallion is the biggest one that's blowing up out of there. right now. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, you're right. But more like the underground type scene, like, like, you know what I'm saying? Muffickers is getting views and shit. You know, it's different

for us. Like, we get, we get a couple million views out here. People like, oh, this food's on and shit. And out there, like, maybe in their section, but when we look at it, like, fans from over here, they don't fuck with them and shit. But then food's going, they're going hard, bro. But that's what's crazy to be in a position like yours where you're out here. You're putting out music videos and getting millions of views and like doing shows they're sold out and everything. But it's like that's how varied the internet is or how many different types of rap fans there are is that like a lot of people would be like, oh, I haven't even heard of that dude. But then meanwhile you have this like crazy ass rabid fan base.

Yeah, yeah. It's like a weird space to exist. Yeah, it is. It is. But you know what I'm saying? Like I look at it like, I look at it like everything I do is like I'm proving myself to the next, the next generation of, you know, I'm saying music listeners or whatever you want to call it or the people that didn't don't know me right so I try to go hard like every time and try to do some different shit like I just dropped my album like about two months ago yeah and my EP's already about to come out and shit you know

I mean and I'm touching basses with like Phoenix and shit you know what I mean and I got stupid young on this one again oh you got Phoenix on the next one yeah I got Phoenix on the next one that's produced by Cyprus too is yeah that's my dog yeah I've been seeing you with him a bit right yeah that's a dude right I always see Cyprus yeah I always see Cyprus yeah Yeah, yeah, he told me he ran into you and shit, and he's like, man, he produced that record. Because he did one of your recent videos, right? Yeah, he did foreign. Yeah, he did foreign.

That was doing really good. We're about to hit a meal on that and shit, you know what I'm saying? It's been like two months and shit, I can't complain. You know what I mean? I'm very grateful. That's super lit. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, so, like, is that, how did you even, because, like, when I was listening to the project,

I was surprised to hear you having, like, Rucci and Stupid Young on there. Were those, like, connections that you already had, or those people you reached out to on some like, I'm a, yo, I fuck with your music type thing. Yeah, yeah, I reached out on some street shit. Just like, man, let's get some shit cracking, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm not gonna fuck with you just because, like, I'm not really into like, you know what I mean?

Like, all right, somebody got views or, you know what I mean? We could obviously go after these bigger artists that are charging it a little bit more just to get the views and get the, you know, fan base and all. But if I don't fuck with it, I'm not gonna do it and shit, you know what I'm like, fuck it, man. You know what I fuck with stupid young, young's music genuinely, like, I fuck with it.

Like some gangster shit, because that's what I'd be rapping about. It's like gangster shit. And I tapped in with him. Rucci, same shit. Tapped in with him. Let's go. You know what I mean? So it's just, I just trying to reach out and fuck with people more.

You know what I'm saying? Because a lot of shit that Mexicans don't do is that. You feel me? I feel in my circle, my little genre, you know what I'm saying? Whatever it is. You know what I mean? People don't reach out or they're scared to spend a little bread. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, for real. You got to spend bread, bro. People, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's just what it is. When you were early in your career, who were you looking at as inspirations to be like, yo, I could do that. Like, I could actually make shit that is like my type of music that represents my culture and really kill it.

Were you someone who, like, knew, like, that the internet was going to be such a big part of it from day one? Nah, fuck, no, bro. I didn't, like, to be honest with you, I fucking didn't know shit. Like, I was just kind of, the way my shit started was like, you know, I'm mainly a producer. That's what I started doing was producing. You know what I'm saying? So I was doing a lot of producing and shit. And then, you know what I'm saying?

My whole situation went down where like my little cousin got life and shit. Then I started rapping, woo-ty-whoop and all that. So I wasn't really in tune with the whole scene, but I seen like a lot of different Mexican artists doing it. And then like, not to be a dick, but like back then when I would see them doing it, I was like, damn, like these foods are really doing it, you know what I'm saying? But then once I looked at it, I was like, well, they wasn't really doing it. You know what I'm saying? Because now that I'm deeper into the game, you know what I'm saying?

It's like you can't take no breaks, no days off. You just got to keep going. Content, content, content. You know what I mean? And literally, bro, like, when I started doing music, I had told my baby mama, I was like, I was doing regular shit, like regular jobs and shit. You know what I'm saying? I told my baby mama, like, she was moving in with me, dog, and this was like 10 years plus. And I was just, like, I'm going to quit my job and just like focus on music 100%, you know what's saying? say she she looked out she was she was with it you know what she was cool with it yeah she was cool with it you know what saying she was cool with it but she didn't know everything that came with it you know saying there's a lot of fucking just you know what I mean I mean from the first

I wasn't making money for the whole first like fucking six seven years of my career bro you know what I was broke and she was holding that shit down really but you were taking it like all the way serious so like a lot of people forget about that like that they might have just started hearing about you over the last couple years but they forget about the fact that like you might have to grind for a really long time to get to that even that point. Man, still, still grinding right now. I'm still grinding to earn my respect in the music, you know what I'm saying, from different

people and shit, you know, for the industry, you know what I'm saying? It's like, we got the numbers, you know what I mean? Like, we doing shit like you said, you know, so like I said, it's just like, everything's like to prove it. Like, I want to prove my point. So like, you know, let's go out there and like, fuck it. Yeah, we hit the million views. All right. Let's hit two million in one month this time. And you know what I mean? Let's show and we're going to sell out this show. We're going to sell out that show. But mainly it's a show. But mainly it's a

about the music, you know what I'm saying? And the fans, though, because without the fans, bro, like, I wouldn't be shit. The fans is really fucking with me, you know what? Yeah. 100%, you know? That's what's dope, too, because you know that they really feel like you're speaking, like, specifically to them about their experience because you are from, like, such a specific kind of background that they fucking relate to, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Nah, for real, for us. I mean, I wave that flag real high, you know what I'm saying? Like, for them and for everybody that fucks with me like that, you know what I'm saying? Like, I wave our flag really high, you know? But, but, but. But, I wave that flag real flag real high, you know? But,

But at the same time, like, you know, I'm reaching out to different artists, you know what I'm saying? I don't care if they're Mexican. I don't care what they are. Like, let's make it. If I fuck with you, let's make some music, you know what I'm saying? Definitely. And I don't even need to know what the fuck. You know what I'm trying to work with a little Pee up there and fucking, you know what I'm saying?

I don't know, you know what I'm saying? With Pilo, you know what I mean? Different cast. Like, it's about the music. It's about shit. You know what I mean? Coming together making dope shit. That's it, you know what was it like coming up in Pomona?

Because that's like, I've only been there because there's this like, cafe type place that used to do hardcore shows too. I forget what it was called, but it was like right in that like downtown area. So that's like the only time. It's either like the glass house. Yes, that's it. All right. Or Aladdin's,

is Aladdin's a spot out there too? I don't even know if Aladdin still exists. Yeah, it probably doesn't anymore because it's like five years ago. Well, right there in downtown Pomona, it's like you got the glass house and the Fox theater. Those are the most iconic spots. Yeah. And then all around there, it's like one block.

You just got all kinds of little clubs and shit. Pumona is like a weirdly good place for like, to see live music. Like average town like that is not. Yeah. For some reason, Pomona totally is. Yeah, like rage against the machine. Like went there, there did some shows like some big artists like that. Wait, they're from there? No, no, no. They went to the glass house and did shows and shit. Oh, for real? That's sick. Yeah, you know what's crazy? It's like, I just got booked for the glass house October 5th. I'm just shamelessly plug that shit. That's great. You know what I'm saying? And that's my first time getting booked at one of the iconic spots in Pomona. And it's crazy because I've been from Pomona for, you know what I mean? My whole life. I was born. So that was like a big accomplishment for me and shit.

Right. You know what I mean? So I threw stupid young on it. The homie, Lil Max, I threw him on it and shit. He's dope as fuck. High tone threw him on it too. So that one's gonna be big, but that one means a lot to me because they wasn't fucking with me before.

I think because my gang, you know, my gang ties and shit like that. So they thought there was gonna be a lot of drama and shit, you know? Especially if you watch my video with you. Yeah, that's what I was thinking right away is like, it's got to be like the way that all the really gangster ass rappers in Chicago have like a super hard time performing in Chicago. Yeah, like that. I think that's what it is. It's like they're going to assume that like people are going to be pulling up that are going to be wanting to see other people and all kinds of bad shit, right? Yeah, yeah, you know, it's crazy though. I'm going to be 100% honest with you. Like as I progress in the music and as I'm putting off for my city, like I even, bro, like I even have people that are definitely considered my enemies like 100% commenting to my shit. Like yeah, that's right. Put off for the city. That makes me seem like I'm doing something bigger. You know what I'm saying? That makes me feel like I'm doing something bigger, you know what I mean?

That's dope because, I mean, you kind of got to assume that if you get big enough or if you really are like speaking to people's experiences enough that that's going to happen. Like I'm sure that there's a lot of people who listen to Nipsey or YG or whatever that are from places where they're not supposed to be getting along with them, but they've got big enough to the point where people are able to put that aside, you know? Yeah, exactly. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's trip me out, though.

I mean, it's been happening for the last like year and a half now where I see shit, you know what I mean? Different people commenting from. different sections in Pomona that they know we don't get along but everybody's kind of like coming together and kind of like all right yeah we fuck with him and shit you know what I mean so that's a big accomplishment for me too because when I was younger man I was you know what I mean I was really out there fucking around and shit you know what I'm doing some crazy shit so what was your upbringing like in Pomona I'm very interested about what sort of what was the household

that you grew up in like shit well I got I got four brothers and three sisters bro you know what I mean and my parents you know what I mean they came over here from Mexico so you know, it's always a struggle like that for them. If you only told, if I didn't even know who you were and you told me that you had seven brothers and sisters, I would just assume they were Mexican. Yeah. Real shit. That's like mostly a Mexican thing at this point having that many kids.

No offense. I mean, I ain't going to lie, you know what I'm saying? Maybe put it in work, you know what I mean? Put it in mad work. But, you know what I said you can get a Mexican girl pregnant just by looking at her. I've heard that. I ain't done that yet. Thank God.

Yeah, I haven't had that experience either. Yeah, but my shit was average. you know what I'm saying like you know what I mean it's the same story bro you know what I mean it's the same boring story you know what I mean you know growing up in poverty we didn't have much and shit you know what I'm saying same shit I grew up in the I grew up in the heart of my neighborhood you know what I'm saying from the neighborhood I'm from so I was kind of like that was not really like a question like you know what I'm saying all my brothers is from my neighborhood and you know what I mean it was not really like oh should I should I not

just I was born in it you know what I'm saying so I might as well just be from it you know But so were you like, would you say you grew up like extremely poor because you just had so many brothers and sisters that's got to be super hard for your parents to take care of that many people, right? Yeah, it was. But you know what? They did a good job because I didn't actually know how poor like we was until like, you know what I'm saying? Later on, like, you know what I mean? Now that, you know, everybody in my family is making good living, you know what I'm saying? You know what I mean?

Like my brother, my brother Smokey, man, he got out of jail. He went to YA for like five years. This was back in the day, bro. You got that job started making businesses making businesses and he had me working for him that he got me like my first job and shit Yeah, you know what kind of businesses right now? Well, we did gardening business You know what I'm saying? I know that's funny because it's Mexican, but we did the gardening business He went out and he bought like he's just like on a on a win bro he like went and bought like all everything like brand new fucking lawnmores Rewackers whatever you know I mean but now Jesus Christ hey can you give me some woods by the way the good thing is now is now

was that after all them years of him grinding, bro, he owns a multi-million dollar business now. Really? Yeah, that's his son right there. That's my boy right there. Oh, shit. That's the best case scenario. For people to just be able to start businesses in their area and stuff that's not even necessarily involved with entertainment or any of the things that we kind of think of as like

the obvious things to go into or whatever. Yeah, exactly. That's dope. Yeah, he had my back. He's one of the reasons why I'm doing music. My brother, my brother, my brother, Hazie, he's the one that show me how to play instruments and how to actually like fucking go on the keyboard and make sounds and shit you know what mean and my brother cili's always been there you know what i mean so i had a lot of support

from them and shit but my brother smoky definitely kind of put me on that money tip because i in the streets you didn't really think about like my neighborhood wasn't really about hustling like right that's why i don't talk about like selling drugs and shit on my music because i never really did it if i did it you know what i mean it was at a small scale and shit you know what i'm saying you know what i mean but that's crazy how you can just teach somebody like if you can just put somebody on a hustle, then that can kind of switch up that mentality. Because was your mentality just straight up like, I'm just going to be on the block, I'm just going to be all here all the time? Yeah, that's what it was.

I talked about this a few times and shit, you know what I'm saying? These little interviews we did and a little press one. But yeah, it was just like he kind of like distracted me from, you know, basically ended up in jail for, you know what I mean? Like my little cousin got light, bro. He got jumped into my neighborhood two months later. give him 32 years of life and shit. So that's the type of shit, just to give you an example. What did he do for the record?

What did he do? That he got... Well, allegedly? Yeah, allegedly, like, you know what I'm saying? That was a murder that took place and shit. You know what I'm saying? And it was two months after he got put down? Literally, probably less.

Holy shit. After he got put in on the neighborhood, you know what I'm saying? And that's kind of just normal shit. It's normal, like, to us, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's kind of like, you get in the neighborhood, like, expect you to do some real time and, like, you know what I mean? Whatever. But, you know what I mean?

my brother kind of like, hey, snap out of that shit, man. You know what I'm saying? You got to make some money, dog. You want some good, you know what I mean? You want to fucking do something good with your life. You need money to do it. So you got interested in producing just as like a hustle, basically? He put me in.

He put me on it like, I think mainly he was doing it as a distraction. But like, I remember like the first times that we even talked about it. He would like, he would show me. We would go and we got like to fucking go to the store and bought the cycle around, like the album that just. came out. And then he'll be like, listen to these beats, bro. Like, listen to these beats and shit, you know what I'm saying? Like, make shit like that. Get ideas. And then we'll listen to sugar free. We'll listen to, you know, DJ Quick, Warren G, like that type of, you know,

this type of style of the producing that they was doing and shit. You know what I mean? So he's kind of like installed that into me. But I was always trying to like, I always dabbled in music, but I never took it seriously at all because I was too distracted with hanging around my friend just doing crazy shit. Who'd rather shit with your friends. Yeah. Yeah, right of shit with always, you know? When you're young, it's like hard. to convince somebody like, like if you could go back and I could talk to my 18 year old self now is like so many things that just seem obvious that I didn't really get at that point about what you should be focusing on in your life.

Like the primary things being that like getting fucked up and violence aren't as cool as you think they are at this point in your life, you know? No, you ain't lying. I mean, nobody's going to want to change. Like this is what I say. This is for like motherfuckers that are hooked on drugs and little homies that are, you know what mean, in the gang life real tough. It's like you were never going to change their mind.

They literally probably had to like hit rock bottom and fill it themselves to be able to want to change their life. I feel that I feel that same way about people that are like really stuck on drugs too and shit. You can't just snap it out of them. You can't send them to a fucking, you know, whatever kind of house that is, halfway house type shit. And expect for them to just be like, fuck it. I ain't fucking with this shit no more. Because they haven't seen the negatives yet. Yeah, they ain't hit rock bottom yet, you know what I mean?

So I think when my cousin went to jail, because he was my cousin, but he's like my brother dog, so like we would spend every single hour, you know, together, like everywhere, bro. You know what I mean? Once he went away, that was kind of like an eye-opener for me because I went wild, like I went like stupid wild and shit. That was the inspiration that you needed just basically to go all out at that point? I went all out in the streets when he did that because I felt like, you know, like, you know, fuck everybody. Like he's gone, you know what I'm saying? And then, you know, I kind of had a hit rock bottle myself.

And then my brother kind of just picked me up. That's like a little story, you know what I'm saying? And the words of walka flaka, ever since they killed my little bro, every since they killed my little bro, I'm popping pills and acting crazy. That's just like summed up, like, so many people's kind of life experience that I know

where like something really traumatic like that happened to them and then they just basically went crazy for a period of time. Yeah, yeah, nah. That's real, though. I mean, that's real life experiences and shit that people deal with, I guess, you know what I mean? But I'm all about the music now, man. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Don't get me wrong. Like, you see my gangsters with me everywhere and shit, you know? Yeah. Like, you know, my homies, they're with me, but they're on the same tip as me. We ain't out there trying to cause no drama and shit. Ain't nobody banging on fools. Just, you know what I'm saying?

Just randomly, like shit we used to do when our kids. They know, this is my business. This is my business. You know what I mean? And I take care of them. You know what I mean? People that fuck with me, people that help me do my music,

people around me everybody eats off without doing shit and i know a lot of people might say that online but they could whoever whoever wants to ask they could just ask my homies and they'll tell you you know me because there's a lot of lying motherfuckers they say they take care of their people but they don't yeah that's that but does it get complicated because it's kind of like people who listen to your music want to hear vivid depictions of your sort of gangster times in your life and shit so it's kind of like when you're rapping about all the street shit regardless of the fact that you might be sort of separate from it at this point, do you ever feel like that is almost like inviting conflict to a certain extent?

Like, I mean, some people do it more than others in the sense that some people are just straight up like dissing the other side and their music and shit and shit like that. But you might also know that if you do that shit that your fans are going to like that shit. Like if you do a diss song about some other hood or whatever, people are going to be like, oh, yeah, that's that shit. I just feel like this. Don't do anything that you're trying to do just to get looks or just to get attention. Don't do it. All the music that I make, it comes fluently.

And I've made a couple of disc records, too. You know what I'm saying? And they're out there. And people know what time it is, and whoever I'm dissing knows what time it is, too. You know what I'm saying? But that was just shit that I was feeling, bro. It was like a whole album where I was pissed to fuck off. You know what I mean?

And I was like, you know what? Fuck, fuck you, fuck every day. You know what I'm saying? So it was just real feeling, dog, you know what I'm saying? And like, you know, if I'm going to do anything to cause attention or just to be like, oh, I'm going to go do it. do something so I could go viral. I feel like that's me being fake. You know what I mean? So I wouldn't really try to do that. And a lot of people kind of get hooked on that shit

where it's like certain people like don't really get that much attention for their music, but then if they diss somebody they do so they just are like addicted to it and they don't know how to exist otherwise. It's kind of weird. It seems fake as fuck as pretty quickly. Yeah, it does. You know what I'm saying? That's why like even like even when it comes to the music like chasing radio and shit like that, like I don't chase radio, bro, like whatever. You know what what I'm saying? Right. Like, charisma.

And, like, they start spinning the new joints that I have with, like, fucking, uh, with, uh, with, like, stupid young, them cats and shit. So I'm appreciated with that 100%. But I'm not going to lock myself in and be like, yeah, I'm going to try to make everything so they can spin it. Like, right. Let me try to make this because they're going to like it. Like, I feel like you got to at this point, you got to just make more, like, like,

people want to hear there's so much evidence out there, whether it's like, you know, you look at, like, somebody like blueface or Shoreline Mafia or whatever. It's like, there's so many people who are basically just. Being raw, giving you, like, their fucking depiction of wherever they're from and people like that shit. That's what it is. It's just making the best version of who you are or what your culture is about or whatever is about making the best version of that. Not like, like, you taking like some fucking singer, like that you don't vibe with at all and putting her on the hook. That's not more likely to make your song blow up.

Like, you know, like that's not really, doesn't seem like it works that way anymore. Yeah, yeah. I don't think it does, you know what I'm saying? Like, I've been having success, and, you know, I'm blessed, you know what I'm saying, to be able to, to be where I'm at now. But I trust me, I don't feel like I'm, you know, people tell me like, man, you're on. I'm like, bro, I ain't on yet, but I'm going to be on, you know what I'm saying? But I'm blessed to be where I'm at. And, you know what I mean, everything, you know what I mean?

Like, this is my, this is my only job. This is my career now, you know what I'm saying? So I don't take it for granted, you know what I mean? But it's all about what the fans want, bro, like, whatever the fans like. I don't, I'm never going to deviate from. what I started doing because I feel like I'm going to lose my core fan base chasing some bullshit right you feel me how's that Spotify money that's just nice it's good I think that's like Spotify and Apple music is the best there's like the shit that's keeping a underground superstar you know what

what I'm saying yeah you know what I mean that's shit that's just that shit does you know what I mean that's crazy that even a couple years ago that wasn't really a thing like it is now right yeah for real I mean, it picked up more. I mean, as you drop more shit, like, it's like a snowball effect. You feel me? So, like, you know, the more records you got spending on Spotify or Apple Music, it's just like snowballing that money rolling in. You know what I mean, I'm thankful for that shit, you know what I'm saying?

Because that shit's just paying my rent, paying my whips, you know, and take care of my son. And, you know what I'm saying? I could pay my homies and shit, you know what I'm saying? The foods that work on my beats, my manager, my engineer, like, they get checks for me every month, shit. You know what I'm saying? So that's beyond blessings, bro.

You know what I mean? So I'm very happy about that shit. No, that's far. That's like the ultimate goal for sure. So going back to sort of you getting involved in this early on. So you're making beats and like how far did you actually get making beats? Like how successful did you get at that before you turned to rap? The thing was I was I was making beats for certain people.

At first, that's how I started meeting a lot of the L.A. scene because we opened the studio. And I was just an engineer, bro. Like, me and my, and my little brother-in-law, X and shit, he showed me how to, like, work the, because I was on, bro, when I started making beats, I was on an NPC, rolling NV-8,000, bro, like a big-ass fucking beat machine like that. And then when that shit broke down, I hit him up,

because he was on like some little fucking little shit on it, on a computer, a little beat-making program. Yeah. I called him over and shit, and he showed me how to work that. So then we opened the studio. I learned how to record people. then like you know what I'm saying a lot of cats from like LA different rappers would come record and then I'll like they'll ask if I had beats and shit and I'll just like play a beat

because that's what I was doing daily like night and day like I'll wake up go to sleep making beat and you're an engineer for anybody important or interesting I mean in their own ways and shit you know what I mean but mostly underground dudes yeah a lot of underground dudes and shit because that's the thing once once my cousin ended up getting incarcerated my brother was like He was like, man, like, you need to start, you need to start rapping. I had no confidence in my rap's back then. Was your cousin rapping? Yeah, he was rapping.

He was the star. Yeah, he was rapping. Like, I would be making beats and he'd be rapping. He was way ahead of his time, bro. Like, I didn't even know how much ahead of his time. He was until now. Right. Like, I listened to the shit that we recorded in how he was spitting.

You know what I'm saying? I was like, this motherfucker is like, he was, right now he'd be on. Like, he'd be super on, you know what I mean? That's too bad. You know what I mean? So, but he got some help coming. Now they change the law. They change the law that you can't get life when you're under 21 no more.

Really? Yeah. So a lot of homies are getting played with that. Really? Yeah, because a lot of my homies, bro, that got locked up from my neighborhood. You know what I'm saying? These are homies I fucked with. People that know me, like, generally, not just people that I'm like, oh, yeah, he's from my neighborhood.

You know what I'm saying? My neighborhood is not huge. Yeah. They all be in life sentences before they turn like 19 and shit. You know what I forget who it was. I saw somebody talking about that on Vlad. Maybe it was you. It was talking about how you just know a ton of people.

who get locked up for like the first attempt or the first criminal thing that they did are just so early that it's like they didn't even have time to like realize they were fucking up when if you can get sent away for fucking 20 years 40 years whatever off just doing one thing once that's crazy bro when my cousin got busted there was one of the little homies with him he was 14 years old they gave him life to him wow 14 14 that food barely even busted could bust a nut yeah and it's like if you're 14 It's like, listen, like, you can't, you can't even, like, legally make the decision to have sex at 14. Right. But they're saying that he made the decision to shoot someone or whatever it is.

And that, like, they're so confident that that's an accurate depiction of who he is as a person. Exactly. That's crazy. It was young, bro, and he looked young, too, and he was gone. Oh, man. The other homie was 16. They gave him, they gave him 60 years. You know what I'm saying?

So, bro, it just happens. Do you go in and visit them and like do you see them as like just changing in the sense that like if you spend your whole life growing up in prison then you gotta fucking have something different about your personality from that. Obviously I mean see my homie right here did 10 years so he could he could tell you the little difference. You know what I mean? He comes out here and now you got iPhone and the shit. Yeah right. You know what I'm saying? My motherfucker like that's fuck.

Yeah it's always a fucking strange thing to see people come out and like yeah all kinds of weird shit. I think it's a fucked up thing I don't think the gang did the prison reform you he said made him improve and matured more I got friends

and Joe who got iPhones though that's a really weird experience texted somebody and it's coming back blue and they're locked up

that shit's just freaky I mean come on man you know what I'm saying this 2019 right you know you find a way to do anything anywhere

yeah that's all I look at it and shit I did an interview with Take care and Tiki just started talking about how he had an iPad

and I'm like What? Then like like like fucking he got in trouble for having an iPad right after that But it's like why the fuck do you say that and like it was weird too because I sent it to his management to review it and for some reason they didn't think that it was something that they should even be worried about was all right admitting to have a fucking iPad Maybe he just didn't give a fuck maybe he's just gonna get you go get another one after that Okay definitely don't give a fuck yeah exactly he said he started a gang in jail what was it called the little rascals I think that's really like a thing was in there right enough who started his own Now, back to that, though, I think it does, it does help some people, like, you know what I mean? But I think at the end of it, you just thrown into, especially at a young age, you're thrown into like a jungle, bro, full of like crazy motherfuckers, dog.

So it's like, come on. Like, you can't, you can't, now, you know, the homie that's 14, all he's going to know is that. Yeah, exactly. So now he, his career is going to be the hardest motherfucker to live. That's got to be weird. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's different. Like, it's different.

Friday after fucking just living around the savages for that long. Yeah, I mean, I know homies like that too and shit, you know what I mean? And some come out and go back in, you know what I mean? Do you consider yourself just real lucky that you didn't get caught up during your time doing bullshit? Bro, more than lucky, bro. It's like, you know what I'm saying? I give that up to God and shit, you know what I'm saying? You know what I mean?

Not to speak too much on it, but like, for real, like, I'm lucky, man. I mean, my cousin, you know what I'm saying? My right-hand man got 32 years of life, you know what I'm saying? I should be in there with him. You feel like you're living for him in a lot of ways? Hell yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, I send him money and shit like that.

You know what I'm saying? I take care of him. You know what I mean? Like, whatever he needs. He don't even like asking him, but I'll be like, motherfucker ask me. Like, I got, I'm doing okay. You know what I'm saying? Like, ask me.

I got you. You know what I mean? I think that's very important, you know? Because we had this dream back then and like, you know, now it's materializing for me. And if he comes out, you know, like, you know what I'm saying? He got a court date on, And I think it's in October, October 22nd, he has a court date. And that court date, they're going to let him know if they're going to release him or not, shit.

You know what I'm saying? Holy shit. Yeah, because they've been going at it about that new law and shit, you know what I mean? That's crazy. Yeah. How do you talk to, like, your young fans who listen to your music, and it's got to be kind of awkward for you because on one hand, you know, you are from the streets, you know everything that you went through and all that kind of shit.

but at the same time, like, you want to be able to tell them not to make the same mistakes that you did. Like, how do you go about having those conversations? How do you think about that? I think I've had conversations with a lot of fans and shit, you know what I'm saying, about, you know, that and, like, how to make it in the music type shit, too. That's a very frequent question. But I think, shit, when I rap my shit, it's not to glorify it, you know what I'm saying? like I'm not growing fighting it's just all I know you know I'm saying I can't talk about you know what I'm saying being rich and spending all this cash and doing all that you know what I'm

saying because that's not what I lived you know what I mean it wasn't uh you know I mean I wasn't trapping so I can't talk about trapping I can only talk about what I knows so by but you know I mean I don't want anybody to get the misconceptions that I'm saying you should be this you're going to be cool if you is if you listen to my music you you're going to hear the bad shit that happens, you know what I'm saying? Like, so maybe in some type of way, I'm not trying to preach, you know what I'm saying? Because I'm not perfect as well, you know what I'm saying? You know what I mean?

Like, you know what I mean? I got my head blasted all over me and shit, so. But at the end of the day, I'm not trying to preach, but I'm just trying to tell you guys, like, this is my story and this is with shit that can happen. Even now, even right now, like, this is telling them, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, my little cousin's just been in the jail for life, you know what I mean? I don't want to go to jail for life, you know what I'm saying? But I'm never going to forget where I've come from.

That's why you see my homies with me. You know what I'm saying? You see my real homie from my neighborhood that, you know what I'm saying? They can vouch for me. You know what I'm saying? Like, they're with me. I don't have to be over there running a month. Right.

They come with me to shows and they can run a month at my shows. Go fuck some bitches. Go fucking drink and go have fun. Do what the fuck you want to do? Like, do something different. Let's go. You know what? Yeah.

Yeah. So I think that's the best way I can explain it, you know? Yeah. But when people ask me, I tell them, man, you know, it ain't worth it. Like, even, even catch that, you know what, me, try to join neighborhoods. Like, now it's like, man, you're like, if you're going to join the neighborhood, then know this is what comes with it. And if you're ready with that, then you're ready to give up, possibly give up your whole life and be a, you know what mean, a career criminal, then go ahead and do that and shit. At least, like, know what you're, what you're getting into, I guess, yeah. Yeah. And back then. And back then. Nobody was really telling us that. Yeah, it wasn't like, like, yeah. It was fun. It's fun. It's fun. It was just, it was fun. My neighbors, my love for my, my homies, you know, my brothers, everybody was doing it. So it's like, fuck it, let's go. I want to do that too. I want to go run around fucking acting a fool and shit. You know what I saying? It was fun. It was fun. How big of a part of your early success would get your name out there was the fact that you were working with King Liljee, who we interviewed relatively recently? When I started working with that cat, I was producing for him. So I produced about three to four songs. on every record he would every album he released since 2013 okay you know what I'm saying and

I think that was good for getting my name out there and shit you know what I'm saying more than it was you know what I mean but were you guys super tight like were you looking at yourself as like the next rapper under him coming out or is that kind of a misconception like if I was like up next after him type shit yeah you know it's like you got 50 sin then you got fucking young buck like You know his artist like his next artist was that the way it was being presented because like it feels like a lot of people Are you know not hurt but like they're sort of real concerned about you guys not working together anymore Yeah, yeah, yeah I mean he's doing his own shit I'm doing mine. It's just it's a little hard to be two artists in the same record label though

You know what I'm saying and and I'm not I'm after I'm after that big pot of gold You know what I'm saying so was that how you guys stopped working together was this just kind of hard for you to be second fiddle? I mean, if you want, that's probably the easiest and, you know what I mean, most political way to say it, you know what I mean? Okay. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, you know, he's doing this shit. I'm doing my shit. I'm getting my success.

And, you know what I mean? Now, you know, I'm able to provide for my family, provide for my homie, so I ain't complaining. I'm happy about it, you know what I'm saying? But is it weird because the fans just, like, want answers about this kind of thing. They want there to actually be a big beef and for there to be a bunch of diss songs. But instead, you guys are just kind of, like, quiet about it for the, most part it seems like yeah yeah I want to tell you like this if there ever was real beef out you they'll never know about it you know what I'm saying because the way I was raised

I wasn't raised to say names and say shit on the internet so you know what I'm saying what did or didn't take place the fans will never know because it's just about the music enjoy the music you know what I'm saying you know what I mean and you know I mean some gangsters shit like if you know anything happened and everything was to happen and shit like that you know I mean I wouldn't really, I wouldn't publicize it. Right. Is that weird, though, because we live in a world where so many people straight up just rat on themselves constantly in their music and stuff, and that's just like a part of

hip-hop now? That's just stupid. It's true, though. It's like so many people, like, so many times we hear about somebody getting caught up or something where it's like, damn, you really did not have to get caught up for that. You rather than yourself. I did that Vlad interview, bro, and I think that was, man. Yeah, Vlad will get you snitching on yourself.

real quick. I'm pretty sure I didn't, bro, but he was asking stupid questions, bro. Was he really? Crazy questions, bro. I was like, bro, like, don't talk. What did he say that you thought was over the line, though? I tried, huh? What did he say that you thought was kind of over the line? I mean, just put it this way, everybody wants to talk real heavy on that gang shit. And there's rules to this gang shit, so that's just sum it up. You know what I'm saying? Like, you can't talk too much.

I think that's like, if you go in an interview, though, is like you've got to kind of think of it that way. where, you know, some people, like, like, if he's, you know that Vlad is going to ask you what set your claimant or whatever it is, but that's what you just got to maneuver it. I thought you handled it good because you said like, yo, it's in my music and shit, but I'm not going to sit here and say it. Yeah. You know, it's like, but that he's got to- But I was sketched the fuck out, bro.

I swear to God, I was so sketched out, dog. Really? Before those interviews started dropping, then I was like, dude, like I hit up, I was hitting up, like, you know, like, you know, my PR and different people. I was like, man, do those motherfuckers have to come out? Because when I come in and I interview, like I said, it's just like unscripted, dog. Like, I'm not here to bullshit nobody. Ask me a question.

I'm going to answer it. You know what I mean? I thought you did good in that situation, though, because you didn't really, like, say too much about it. Like, he's doing his job. You're doing your job. Put out eight episodes, bro. What the fuck? But did you get offended by any of the titles?

Because he goes crazy with the titles, man. Vlad meant, damn. The titles, bro. Which one pissed you off? I mean, you can't be talking about cartels and shit. I don't know nothing about the cartels, bro. German talking about cartels. What are you talking about?

Right, when he, like, asked you a question and then your answer is basically, like, I don't know. But then the title is cartel shit. Like, I don't know about that, bro. Get that shit out of here. You know what I'm saying? Because you could potentially be in a situation where somebody could be like,

why are you talking about the cartels? And you would kind of have a hard time saying, I'm not talking about them when that's the title of the video. That'll make me fake, bro. Yeah. You feel me? Me talking about cartels when I don't know much about the cartels at all. All I know is stories, you feel me?

So me talking about them would make me a fake person. You know what I'm saying? me acting like I knew this and that. But then you want to title the fucking video that. But go ahead, man. It's all good. Yeah, I think Murder Beats is not 100% happy with me right now because I titled his interview.

Like, one of the chunks of it, I titled that Murder Beats talks about Leaking Migo's music that he produced, which he said it. But he didn't like the title, but it's kind of like, well, you literally said that. Like, I was sitting there thinking like, damn, I can't believe you're saying this. But, I mean, he said it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like kind of weird. Yeah.

I mean, you can't get mad at me. I mean, you can't get mad at it. You know what I mean? I'm not mad at it. thing you know what i'm saying he knows how to get those clicks and shit so it is what it is man you don't my title this uh young drummer boy talks about fuck blad for fucking there's a good title right there hey you my bro i probably won't even be mad at that bro it's weird though it's a weird experience looking through the notes from the podcast because

i'll always just have my like in turn like basically just do a list of like what was talked about and then i'm sitting there looking at it trying to think about what the titles could be if we're going to pull like little segments from it or whatever it's always kind of weird Because it's like you're basically like what are people going to click on? Like it's never it's only shit that involves like confrontation or drama or whatever like I titled one the other day like black youngster talks about how he got obsessed with stranger things. Nobody clicked that shit. I was like what were you thinking like you can't just have a positive title like that? Nobody wants to hear that shit.

No, I get it. I get it. You know what I'm saying? That's the same way. You know what I mean? That's why we throw it. It's the same thing. That's why the videos look like what they are.

People want to see People want to see and hear shit Interesting shit, bro. Yeah. Well, they want to hear shit about a life That they haven't lived. Right. You know, and it's like,

if you have ever been through a situation where you like could have got arrested Or you could have got shot or whatever, like people want to hear those stories, especially in interviews and shit because that's just like most people are never going to live that. So that's interesting than them.

Yeah. I mean, in my case, just listen to my music. And I promise you 100%. And I'm just not, I'm not like these other type of rappers. You could ask anybody around me, people that don't know me. Like, what I spit on my shit is factual, man. You know what I'm saying?

I just interviews and talking about shit like that, it's just uncomfortable. I saw my past, you know what I'm saying? Did you avoid it for a long time, like, doing interviews? Because it just kind of felt like this sort of goofy thing to be doing to, like, just go out there and put your shit on blast like that? Yeah, I never done them. I never done it. We barely went on, like, my first interview, real interview run, like,

probably like fuck. You did a real 9-2-3 and shit too, right? That's one of my favorite ones. Yeah. With a bootleg Kevin. Is he the one who did it? No, I was DJ Head and Chuck Diss. Right, right.

Yeah, yeah. Okay. I saw that. I fuck with them like genuinely. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, after that, I was like, you know, we got a mutual respect for each other and shit. I feel like, you know what I mean? And I like, I really, really like that interview out of all of them and shit,

you know what I'm saying? And that's like a 10. And then Vlad's like a one. That was a one. Okay. I guess you did look kind of. uncomfortable in that and then as soon as we sat down and started talking i was like dan he's like a different person thing was in the vladder interview you feel me though i feel like i feel

like i feel like it was just too much it was just too much questions bro he went down like list but fucking man it's over it's out there it's on the world now you can't take it back everybody got to do it everybody if you want to be a rapper you should have to do it one dj vladen interview and then you could talk shit about it after but you got to do it one time just for the history books i'm not talking shit just to talk shit i was genuinely bro i was getting anxiety over that motherfucker before like when the as the episodes was dropping and I was watching the title I was literally getting anxiety bro like motherfucker like that what I'm saying is not going to get me caught up but the shit that you put it on the caption could possibly get me cut up but do you feel like

it was worth it because you got enough like new people hitting you up or interested in your music or who saw one of those crazy titles and we're like I'm a listen to this dude who might not heard of you before hey look at glad if you got me some new fans thank you I appreciate it 100 percent but I was really sketched out about those motherfucking titles yeah that's the easiest way I could say you know saying so I don't know got to go through it I was thinking about like that when I think about going on Vlad that's what I think of is like I wonder what my titles could be this time yeah you know it's gonna be like every conflict you had with somebody I was thinking that too I was thinking that too like what is

you gonna name that part what is he gonna name oh a drummer doesn't say his gang it's like it's so funny we talk about him like he's like there's an evil genius just But he'd be getting views And he's like Dr. Evil or something He's doing his thing You know what? I like what he's funny He does like he just

It's like so clear that he just knows what he's doing And he's just every interview He knows how to maximize it reviews And it's just like very smart And that's why he's surged ahead of us He got like 3.4 million subscribers We're over here just barely hitting three Some titles man

He said barely I'm telling you man Those titles Yeah no that Yeah. I mean, bro, I can name my fucking song right now, a crazy title that everybody wants to hear, and I guarantee you that she's just going to go off. Yeah, you've said right now that you robbed a bank. You know what I'm saying? And that's one thing that I think is funny is that now young rappers come and do interviews and they intentionally troll and fucking just will make some shit up or lie about some shit.

I felt like I've had people that I know come in here and just basically bullshit me and just tell me a fucking story that, like, probably didn't happen. That's a fact. But they know they're going to get some crazy-ass title and they think it's kind of funny. That's a fact. It's a weird world we live in. That's a real fact, though, man. People will be talking about shit that they really don't know about and just to get that little fucking shit lying about shit. Okay, but is it hard for you being somebody that's kind of just like a straight up dude and you are in a world where to be a rapper?

It's like basically people want you to be fucking six, nine out here and just be wilding out, beefing with people, acting like an idiot, probably getting a case or some shit. I mean, I'm sure people want to hear that, but my core fan base, bro, they just fuck with whatever I do, though. As long as I'm not over there chasing stupid shit. You feel me? Yeah. Like, they fuck with it. So, you know, I don't know, bro. Like, I don't really have to do too much and shit, so, you know.

I don't feel like they ask much more of me. Is that, is it? You know what I mean? It's like they're coming up with me and shit. That's good when you build that kind of relationship with your fans that isn't built on some stupid shit, you know? Yeah, you feel me? Was it weird for the thing? that one year period where 6-9 was like clearly the biggest Mexican rapper in the world?

Weird and what way? It just must have been kind of strange to like you're a Mexican rapper and then all of a sudden you have this Mexican rapper was the biggest freak show on earth coming out and getting all this attention and it's kind of like a lot of people are probably sort of looking at that like oh this is what Hispanic people rapping has turned into. Yeah. I mean it wasn't weird. I mean, I never really spoke too much.

I didn't put nothing in my rap's about it and shit. I actually fucked with some of his shit. I was like, this is hard. You know what I'm saying? You're lying if you say you never nodded your head to gummo. No, yeah, he has his bangers, bro. Like, it is what it is. You might not erode it, but, hey, masterminded it one way or another.

Okay. See, I didn't know he didn't write his shit. I'm of the opinion that he never wrote shit. Okay, see, that's fabrication. You know, we're out here. 2019, man. Yeah. I heard what happened, though.

I heard he was in there telling and shit or something like that. So that's already, that's already a no goal. I think that's going to be the thing that's going to dominate rap news over the course of the next couple months as soon as that happens is when he gets up there and actually starts tattling and we get to like hopefully see video of it or at the very least like hear about it and shit like that yeah that's gonna be like the most high profile snitching that has happened and so goddamn long hopefully we get to like just be witness to it like if we had video of him snitching that would be such a gift to the internet think about the memes man yeah you ain't like boof that'll go nuts i'm ready hey but his numbers will go back back up. Oh, his shit's going up no matter what because he's a fucking genius regardless of it. He's a snitcher, he's an idiot or he's evil or whatever. You know what, now that I think about it, he's kind of like a clickbait dude, bro, I think.

He's just the best at that. Yeah, right? Like, he's like another lad. All the parts of you that make you like a respectable dude who people think is a solid person or whatever, like, the fact that he lacked a lot of those is like why he was able to become such a superstar, you know? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I know a lot of people were mad at him and shit, you know what I mean? You kind of mad at him getting all those dudes locked up, all like the actual game members. I said I wasn't mad at him, but I can't, if that's just like truthful that he snitching and all that, then you know what I'm saying? That just doesn't slide. Yeah, that's fucked up. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like, I can't fuck you.

That's, I have people that I grew up with that told and I'll never fuck with them again. You know what I'm saying? But do you have to like see him around and shit like that? Is it just, they just ain't even welcome in the neighborhood after that? You're welcome. Some of them are in jail and like, don't send me a letter, bro. You can get a response. You know what? Just what is what it is. You know what I mean? So that shit just, you know what I mean? We take that shit really serious, you know?

Damn straight. So your career at this point, what are you working on? What's what's the next stuff that you have coming out? What should people look out for, etc.? Well, we fucking, right now I'm working on this EP that I'm rarely excited about, you know what I'm saying? Um, because I just dropped same click. That shit's doing good. Um, you know, No one's doing good. I was just telling you, I was listening to doing my cardio this morning. Yeah.

Had me in the zone. That's right. We were talking about smoking weed a lot. So I was like, fuck. And as soon as I got done, I smoke some weed. Hell yeah, bro. You know what I mean? I appreciate, man, I appreciate you listening to that shit, dog.

Like, that means a lot to me. I don't take that shit for granted. I wanted to hear how you vived with the Asian boys. Oh, yeah? Had to hear that at the least. Yeah. Yeah. He's real.

He's solid. He's a sick. You know what I'm saying. like people you'd be around like you could tell if somebody's genuine or not and shit you know what saying most of the time most of the time you know i mean and he handled himself like a gangster and shit and when i tapped into with him for this new record he was like it's over bro yeah this new record yeah yeah i think separate produces this one too oh he did okay yeah for that one then then i'm so excited about this new ep because i got stupid young on it i got a little mex on it you know uh

i got phoenix on it you know what i'm saying this is this is other shit and then shout out to her man you know what I mean you're reaching out to Jeezy right now and if we get old Jeezy on it that's just gonna be the little top that's over that's a little on the top but as it is as it sits right now I'm very excited about it like

I'm getting anxious to drop this shit you know what I mean it feels like L.A. hip-hop is in just such a good place even compared to like if you would have looked at objectively two years ago or five years ago it's like L.A. was not as popping as it is now but even like the people you just named it's like very like shoreline are fucking huge you and stupid young and all these people are just like it's just a dope

scene of like a lot of different types of LA rappers who are all blowing up at the same time it's cool BG Perico you know what I'm saying like like L.A. got some cool movement we could be here all day listening off people that got waves going right now to be real rochie's doing this shit bro like the movement's going strong out here they're bringing the music back to the you know to say to the west coast and shit you know what I mean which is dope and people are very much like sticking to they're not like compromising or what whatever. It's very, the shit sounds very L.A. Even though people are going in different directions

production-wise and shit. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's what I say too. Like, yeah, like, G. Perico's shit is, like, authentic. Like, you can listen to him and listen to some other than, a noot dog and he's like, this shit, hard then, right? It's like, don't matter. Right? But, um, yeah, fuck, I forgot what I was saying.

What did you have been smoking? No jumper weed. Not available yet. The basis was that was for it. Dropping soon, but yeah, this shit will be fucked up. Yeah. Killer weed, man. Yeah, this shit, yeah, I don't think.

I just got back from my past, we was fucking over there. You got to be fucking up over here, but I'm going to eat. Fucking up, smoking a blood in the middle that does fucking out, man. You'll be all right. Yeah.

But not, man, I'm excited about this project and reaching out. And yeah, LA does got the scene right now and shit, you know what I mean? And it's dope. And I hope I'm doing my part to contribute to it. That's all I could do.

You know what I mean? And just hope for it, you know what I mean? But there's new EP's going to come out. Same clicks out now. You know what I mean? We got the big ass West Festival Fest jumping off. Headlining my own shit. And Pomona, that's a big accomplishment for me, you know what I'm saying?

You know what I mean? So I'm just want to give the fans more and more and more and more and shit. You know what I mean? Hell yeah. And it's a blessing just to be here, bro. You know what I'm saying? And fuck with you. You know what I'm a fan of yours and my family.

Everybody, you know what I mean? We'd be watching, bro. I appreciate it. No, that is like the biggest honor when I hear people talk about like, oh yeah, we were all sitting around watching an enemy together. I'm like, oh my God, I feel it. It's such an honor to imagine a bunch of people who are like, you know, just real-ass, regular cool people, not like internet nerds, not like whatever. And they're just like legitimately just enjoying it together.

I'm like, wow, that really, that touches my heart. Nah, you're putting out content, bro. You put in that good shit. People want to hear. If you want to see it, it's entertaining. Appreciate it. You know what I'm saying? I'll be right there.

My girl, she's doing her makeup. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, that's just kind of how it goes. They're going to be in the comments like, like, this is a collab. I never thought I would see. You feel me? It's fire. Nah, but for real, man, thank you, though.

I appreciate you having me out here, especially Herman, making this shit happen, man. You know what I want you to hear the new Phoenix record when we get that shit done. I need that. You know what I'm saying? Pay attention to that. See if you like that. I know, I know, I'm going to fuck with it, though. Let's do it.

Yeah, me and little mex, you know what I'm saying? We already shot a video for this EP that I'm doing. It's hard, bro. I fuck what. I fuck with a trapstart mex. I got fuck with him tough. We were going to fuck around and do a whole EP together and shit, you know what I mean? Let's do it.

That sounds crazy. I gotta hear that. You know what I mean? I appreciate you, bro. Thank you so much for coming through. My man, thank you for having me, dog. My man, young drummer boy. You got to smoke this too, bro.

Don't forget about this. I'm gonna smoke that before I go to bed because I know I'm gonna be out. Yeah, you, yeah. Like a light. You know what I'm saying? Like a light. We're out though, man.

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