No Jumper - THF Lil Law on Video Shoot Getting Shot Up, THF Bayzoo, Lil Zay Osama Drama & More

Episode Date: March 9, 2026

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No, you just got to have a technique before you start fighting though. Yeah. You gotta size the motherfucker up, like, all right. See, when you walk in, I see your right leg a little stronger than your left leg. So I know, try to hit you on your right side. That's interesting you said, because my right leg, I like, I crack my kneecap open one time. So it's actually like my weaker leg. My left leg is stronger.

And you can see the difference in the size of my calves and shit. Man, that's crazy. Pause. Um, yeah, but that's a weird thing is that in the gangster world or in the jail world, You're not supposed to pick out fights. Yeah, not you're supposed to do it. But in the boxing world, it turns out that I probably should have picked out my fight a little more carefully. I'm saying, so how you get to the fight, though?

What made you? Well, he banged my wife. Right. I'm saying how you pick him all because of that. Oh, that was where the bag was at. Right, okay. That was the one that wanted to see. It all right matter.

See, when it be like that, you're going to den and get your ass to ask for some money. It might don't be the fight for the bag. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But would you do a box match with somebody you knew could whoop your ass? Yeah, for some real paper. Okay, see. Yeah, yeah. Why, well, not, see, I'm a fight anyway if he run up on me.

So it's like, why I want not fight him for some money? Right. You get what I'm saying? Okay, how big you is if you run up on me, I'm going to fight you. So it's like, if you want to pay me, we're going to do it. I'm running around that bitch. Yeah, you got to do it. I'm a ducking, bribe.

What's your shirt say? Gig. Gig, exactly, okay. He said he sent us a box up here. I sent you all the box. For real? Yeah. Got seen it?

I don't know. So you're admitting to trafficking weed through federal commerce? No, I sent it to y'all. So if y'all got some weed here, then y'all, we connected together. We rapists. We are rappers. What's in that cut? This, nothing, some, um, I think lemonade. Okay, that's good. It's a fat wood, too.

Yeah, big-ass wood. Good-looking wood. I smoke thumbs. Yeah, yeah. I smoke thumbs. Let's show. If they ain't figured it out yet, no genre cool, we got T-H-F-Lill law in here. It's been years that we've been working on making this happen, man. Damn. Well, it took so long, brodie.

Man, I ain't go live, man. Honestly, I really want to even into doing the interview thing and shit. You feel me? I don't know. Ramo, I'm blamed Raymond, man. Ramo got me to do this. Remo kept telling me, like, he's the one. We gotta get him.

He's dangerous. He's out here. Dangerous, crazy. I say that, but I said he's one of the ones that you gotta pay attention to, you know? Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I'm definitely one of the ones you gotta pay attention to on the music side of the things. For sure. Like, you know what I'm saying?

I kind of feel like I speak and say what's real. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Brian breed, does it feel like that? Yeah, for sure. I don't really feel like it was a lot of bread, though, neither though. So I just feel like, you know, they just do a couple of us out there. But in the music scene, especially, it feels like it's all, like in Chicago, it's like it's all little kids now kind of.

Yeah, for sure. If like in terms of who people getting attention and shit, it's like 18-year-olds and shit. Yeah, a majority for sure. Yeah. But you know, that's a young nigga real, though. I'm, I'm with it. Yeah. It's a young nigga.

I wasn't, I was just a young nigga, you know what I'm saying? So I still support the young nigga. Well, you still got. joint energy you don't got oh you haven't transitioned to unc yet yeah okay okay but I'm that ain't I ain't young nigga neither though you right for sure how old are you bro me I'm 29 29 29 is like 40 in Chicago years yeah you 29 you made it yeah oh gee you scared to 30 because I'm scared I am though I ain't gonna even lie to feels weird right yeah yeah I'm like shit take these days long as possible but now being 42 it feels like everybody younger than 30

is a child yeah but I want to to see 30 though yeah that's a that's a that's a that's like a trophy yeah why I'm from I think that's what it starts getting good is that 30 18 make it 18 in a rack you make it 21 in a rack you make it 25 in a wreck you make it 30 in a wreck you OG yeah yeah all right so let's let's get into your backstory uh your upbringing and everything like that we got to know about where little law is coming from my my um up story um my backstory um I'm from Chicago Chicago, Illinois, low-end, Southside,

the heart of the city, I'd like to call it. Shit. My family, I come from, my family come from now, my grandma, my, you know what I'm saying? Like my deity, my mama,

my whole family from where I'm from type of shit. Okay. So I've been there, my whole life, I ain't never been, that's, it was like, basically like an inherited. Right, okay. So it wasn't like your family

was moving around and everything. Like you were really connected to, where you grew up. Yeah, I just been bred. I've been, um, I've been rooted there, like, uh, since I was a short year. It's just, that's been my shit since I was a short. And when you say low end, what you mean, like, what blocks is that?

Low end is, I, so in Chicago, the blocks go back, say, is 18th, then to go to 28th, then 30th, 98, I mean, 40, you know what I'm saying, go up, but I'm saying from 15th to 175th, type of shit, like it go up. So it would be 18, 19, 20th. I'm from 44. You feel him 44 Princeton. If you hear me like, and all the way down to 50th.

Wild place to grow up? Wild, fun place to grow up. You know what I'm saying? Nah, I want to say wow, real fun, family oriented. My hood different. I ain't got one of them over wild, who's like type of shit like. Okay.

It'll get wild if Try to come in there that's not from Obedo type of shit. Right, but you got a real community. Yeah, we got a real community. Okay. Like, something happening right there is like, we're on the walkie-talkies. You guys got walkie-talkies.

I'm just saying, neighborhood watch. That's a head go, exactly. We got a real neighborhood watch. I mean, we hear about THF. That's like a hood that for sure rings bells. Everybody talks about them, like, that's something to not disrespect her. Yeah, for sure.

The handling family, you know, family of houndlers, some good guys, you know, Long Lill Zoo. You're familiar. Long live Zoo. This first ever interview was crazy. Yeah, yeah. That was a real memorable one. Yeah, man. Yeah, I can't say much about it.

That's what it is. You feel me? We push it for zoo. Yeah. The show. When did the handler thing come into play? When did the handler thing come into play? We've been houndler for a couple years now.

We always been the handler family, honestly. All right, break down the definition of a handler. A handler? Yeah, what that mean? Man, however this shit get a goal, you're going to handle it. That's what the handle is. Whatever, whatever come through, whatever happened, however he's going to handle it. Like, you see what I'm saying?

Yeah. That's what the handler is. Like, whatever. Like, a father is a handler. Let me give you more. All right, for sure. You take care of your kids, you're a handler. You see what I'm saying?

You take care of your family. You're a handler. Like, you stand on business, period. you're handling whether a female male is you a handler you handle business you get I'm saying yeah that's what it is like so we could just not say put it in a boxer you got to be sliding a killer now the grown ladies they handle us anybody handling their business yeah just they they handle us too but no D what no D just the double end what you mean in handler oh yeah no see yeah so like you know

he's sorry to be like wait a minute already yeah i gotta watch out of man you know yeah see so so some of the bros do spell it like that but yeah i j e n l-e i man let's talk about the handling video shoot man first that's one of the crazy introes that i seen where that video was shot at um on the low end word that wasn't no skit yeah those those days oh word all right all right for sure for sure man i'm like bro my video went up, man. I'm like, all right, for sure. So, all right.

When that song came up? March. Damn, I had to look it up in TV. Last year, though, right? You know that wasn't staged, though, right? He's just saying that. You don't want to give anybody credit. I see it.

It was staged, bro. That's what it was. We got to call Rima. Wow, he was accepting shit too easily. Yeah. Man, I'm gonna let the people. Dude, for real, nothing to happen. Yeah, yeah.

You see what I'm saying? Nothing happened. Like, ain't nobody get shot or nothing like that. I could say it was. Were you recreating something that had happened? been at another video shoot in the past maybe that wasn't caught on camera or something? No.

It was just, so basically what's like Chicago is like such an action packed city. It was just like, let's do some action tonight. You know what I'm saying? That's just what it was. But just hypothetically,

how often do shit like that happen, like video shoots and all that shit? Like, is that a thing where niggas we got to be on alert at these videos shoots? In Chicago? Yeah. Like when you know you finish shoot a video, how much effort is there put into like,

all right, we're going to go here, we got to drop. below here because I'll be seeing when niggas be having videos they're like I'm gonna give the location and like 20 minutes or something shit meet me here or whatever yeah see in Chicago man listen yeah Chicago is um they got the CTA in Chicago you you you don't you're familiar with that that's the cut that ass that's what they're saying the bus look so I've been say in Chicago they gonna catch your ass like if you go in like anything if you

loaf your ass done man they ain't go lasso it's like that shit can happen every day that shit literally can happen every day. Something happened every day in Chicago. Shooting is going to happen every day. Like, that shit can happen every day, especially if it's so happened where you play with a low. Where it's like, I'm right here or a motherfucker, anything where my fuck I know you right here at this time.

Well, I know you're going to be right there at that time. Yo ass, dude. See what I'm saying? Yeah. So how do you all? You can't do that, Steve. You got to be, you got to take your life. So how do you strategically pass out the lows?

How do y'all know who the fuck can't get the lows for the video shoot? Like, how do you... You strategically, so, um, I can't really say how you, so I ain't gonna I don't put a lot of people. Yeah. Because I'm from Chicago. So in Chicago, I don't know a lot of people. I mean, the niggas, girls, bitches.

It's gonna be the same people. Majority of the time, like, the only thing probably get rotated is the hose type shit, like, and it'd be like, then of the holes, down, too, type shit. Like, they're on the side of the shit. Not saying they don't do that shit, but we know what's going on. So it'd be down there to the point where it's like a bitch going, a motherfucker going to know the bitch dropped the low if this bitch play. It's just, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah. Like, it's going to come out. So it's like, it just, shit, you just got to keep your, keep a smaller, crowd. You don't really drop the low. You don't, I don't know, bro. It's hard because you can still, it happens. So you can't say no way.

But strategically, you know, you just stay with your people, though. And shit, you keep it close-knit. Right. When did you realize that, like, you said, said that somebody gets shot at every day or shot every day. Like, when did that start to become like a reality in your mind, though, that you realize the shit was that serious? Like, do you always know that since you were a kid?

Or does shit just get worse over time? Yes, yeah. I'm from Chicago, bro. I got to keep telling you out of it. I'm from Chicago. So it's like, you're going, you're going, like, before eighth grade, before you graduate out of eighth grade, you're going to, you're going to bend a shot of guns. Like, you're going probably don't want to jail already type of shit.

So it's like, yo, my joe your niggies. dead, he's been dead since they was babies type shit due to gun violence, so it's already just, you growing up and you growing, you're growing trauma. It's like, you see what I'm saying? Because like, you know your daddy got shot and killed. You grow up, you probably be five, six, your uncle that's running around with you, he gets shot and killed.

You probably eight, nine. Your mama boyfriend, he gets shot and killed. You see what, you probably nine and a half. Your big brother get killed now, he's 13. You see what I'm saying? Right. It's just like, shit, it's on. So as you know, like, shit, it's a gun.

It's a gun. It's what this could do. It's like when you can understand it's a gun, you damn to understand. You damn to need one. You get what I'm saying? So for you or for the average person in Chicago, is the dream to get some money and get out of there?

Or is the dream to just stay where you're at and just be on point and not end up a victim? I got to tell you, I can't say everybody's dream. Everybody got a different dream, but on average. On average dream is to get some money and really do whatever you want to do as far as with like the shit I feel like Vabs majority don't want to leave a city like don't want to leave what they're rooted or where they're from and then if it's not a like me like I feel like a like me got to leave you get them saying like I don't feel like the average got to lead because they get some money you get some money you know what I'm saying so I got like a mix a mix but I feel like a person of Like me, I have to leave. Like, of course, like, because it's just, it's to the point there's no comfort. Like, I'm out in county.

Like, I'm walking in the stows and shit. You know what I know me? But it's like, you feel me? You can put your guard down a little bit. Yeah, exactly. You see what I'm saying? Like, I was just in the mall with all type of, like, with no security type of. You get what I'm saying?

Like, it's different. Whereas to, in the city, like, I can't walk through the mall. I can't walk through the mall in the city, though. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. It's going to be, motherfuck going to be calling him. I'm going to be waiting on you when you get out tomorrow. You get what I'm saying?

So it's like a like me, a motherfucker like, or got anything like for real, yeah. I feel like the goal got to be the lead. It's not even if you want to. It's like you have to because it's like you can't do nothing. You don't sit down and eat with your grill. You can't go right here. You can't, you know what I'm saying? You don't want to be that clip of like there's always rappers talking about how I ain't leaving because I know how to move.

Nobody going to get the up on me, et cetera. And then something happens and just seems like tragic. Hey, listen, man, ain't nobody invincible, man. It's, it's like, you always, like, I feel, I ain't gonna lie. I say some crazy shit, but I ain't gonna see it. I ain't gonna see it, because it's like, I know, I know my man so f*** up, but it's like, you can always be, I just feel like prepared. You could be prepared, but, shit, God call on you, man,

by la, I can ring for you, come call for you, bro, you got to go. Like, so it's like, it ain't, though. I don't feel no. To the end, you thug, you know what I'm saying? You don't think about it. Like, oh, that ain't just thug. You feel? That's how I feel.

You'd be thinking everything happened for a reason? Everything happened for a reason, you know what I'm saying? Sometimes you probably don't see the reason or sometimes the reason might don't make sense immediately, but everything definitely has for a reason, though. Let me, uh, what age you feel like you had to jump off the porch? Because at first you said everything was all fun, like growing up in Chicago. What age you felt like, all right, this when you see shit getting serious or you, because you said at first it was like fun growing up and shit,

and then you notice like you might be not. It was fun jumping off the porch. That was the most fun ever. Like jumping off the porch is fun. That's not bad. Just because you're doing shit that's potentially you go to jail or some shit like that, that's not bad though.

I mean, you know what I'm saying? It's not hard. But I say I jumped out the porch. I jumped out of the porch. I was like 13, 14, like 14. I was really like more so, but I've been outside so long. I was like one of the youngest niggas on the block running with my big cousin, like,

Mikey Lord and Damo and shit like that. Like I was with the, I was always with big bro now. So I've been off the porch. But like actively, overactively doing shit, like, where I was on my own type of shit, like 14, 15 for real. So I'm doing the math in my head, like, drill blows up in like 2011. You're like 14.

So you're the perfect age to be influenced by all this and, you know, seeing the whole culture. Like obviously, you know, what's going on. your area but all of a sudden you realize and like all of a sudden everybody got a rapper and everybody's talking crazy everybody's putting out shit about what's really going on that maybe wasn't necessarily being documented before that niggia in 2010 2010 before the drill shit even went over crazy and he because like 2010 the drill shit was started but it was like 11 was like the real viral yeah went it went viral but nigga in 2010 me

Y'all know J.B. Van L.A. Van L.A. Yeah. Me, J.B. Ben Laden, D. Rose, L.A. Capone. We all lived together. We all stayed in the same career. We had a crib on 70th. How about I? J.B. It was J.B. career. Muff-ha. We all used to stay together. Like, this shit was before.

Oh, you know what I'm saying? So the drill shit was like, I don't know. I was like firsthand and that shit. Like, I watched all that shit. But you weren't rapping yet? at that point? I went never rapping. I never even wanted to rap for real.

Like, I'm lying. I'm lying. I did. I always used to play with the music, but I never wanted to rap, though. I never was, like, intention to, like, probably like 2015.

I did my first song, me and Prince J. Right. That was my first song. I did my first song, Prince J. Yeah, shout out my brother. You know that.

I did my first song, bro. Yeah, then I had went right to jail after that. I did, like, a song, and I had went to jail. What year was it? Like 2015. And how long you had it? Six years.

What was life like living with all them famous names, D. Rose and shit? That sounds like a crazy-ass house. Yeah, no, no, it went like that, D.O. L.A.? Who else? Me, D. Rose, L.A., who else? That's a wild squad right there. But you're also, like, all super young. Yeah, we were short to be 14.

Yeah. Yeah, we was doing it, though. I ain't a lot. We used to be doing and running the slabs in and out, getting high. We used to go hit legs on the weekend, you feel. We used to go to Kenwood. Kenwood is on the op shit. And Kenwood had it going on.

I ain't gonna lie. But I was just saying that to say, like, the drill shit is like, been right there. Yeah, you, shit, you live in the house with some of the biggest ones in the drill shit. Yeah, yeah. Them my real brothers, like, you feel, me before all this shit, type of shit. Like, it's so much going on that and shit, but you feel like, a lot of you, like, a lot of A lot of shit in Chicago was way different. Like, a lot of them used to be together.

Mm. It seems kind of like peaceful in comparison to how it is these days where everybody's kind of closed off. Yeah, you don't fucking back though your ass, none. Yeah. But also, why are you even moving out the crib when you're 14? Like, that's pretty rare on its own. Yeah.

You were having money? Nah, it's brohat. Yeah, we used doing all type of shit. It wasn't even that, though. It was brohad. So how it was in depth. J.B., his grandma, his grandma, His grandma,

Granny, that's a granny. That's still my grandma. Granny was so, gee, like, she knew we was young. We was, you feel, me? We was steady sneaking. She'd coming out there. We put in the holes in the closet and shit.

So she was just like, man, I can't even come up here and change my clothes for real. And she had the downstairs, too, so she just gave my shit. You know how that she got. I'm fucking coming. That one on, motherfuck of mood in. We was thugging, shit.

Oh, yeah. On 2014, we used to go to school. and go home. We used to wake up and go to school. OG knew my mama knew where I was at. We, it was, you know, it's different with the boy. Like, I'm on my mom, my son, too, though. But, so I always been like a, like, little bro type of shit.

Like, my mama had me a little young. So we always been like this or whatever I was on, my mom was on, for real. How long did that last? Because I feel like a lot of times I have a bunch of dudes living together and then inevitably they start getting girls and start splitting up. No, here, this shit lasted like two years. Okay. It's like two years.

That feels like that's a time limit of like a bunch of dudes living together. No, it was like we was bro, we was brothers they weren't even like living or, it wasn't like we was living together, bro.

It wasn't like, it was like with your brother, you get what I'm saying? It wasn't like, mama downstairs, we upstairs. It wasn't, no, it wasn't like living with a motherfucker that's different. You don't get what I'm saying, though?

You know how you live with the motherfuck, like you gotta watch how you, I don't know how it is living with a fuck, but you get what I'm saying with living with him up though, like as far as, I don't know, though, to the difference of this your crib.

You get to know them on a totally different level living with them. No I'm saying. That was just the crib. Like, it wasn't like living with them. Like, this is my grandma, this is my brother. You get what I'm saying? Just not blood, but that don't, that didn't. It was like, you don't get what I'm saying, though?

No, I feel it. Yeah, that's it. But, okay, were you getting in trouble and, like, going in out of jail at that time? Yeah, if I started going to jail at 14, I was starting. I got first locked up when I was 13. and I started going to jail when I was 13. But I ain't really go to jail a lot, though. But yeah, I started going to jail at that time, too, though.

What you had to do six years for? What was the six-year bid for? Aggravated discharge of a foul arm. And that was what year to win? 2015. I got out 2021. Oh, word. Which are how many years total?

Six. Six years, okay. How was that process like? And who was you locked up with that we might know? as far as what I was locked over there everybody you know whoever you could think

of the cops the guy's shit niggas of this shit whatever you could think I probably was in jail with like I from 15 you got to think whoever was locked up

13 in the Cook County you're gonna fight it you're gonna fight your case for a long time so you're gonna sit in that bitch for four five years so niggas that been locked up since 13 12 they was in the county

with me still too like shit like that you had songs out before Oh, you're talking about going with the same shit. That's the old time. You had songs before you went in? Just one song. Just told me and Prince J.

I got locked up probably like a week after that shit, two weeks after we dropped that shit. How did the six years of jail change you? Man, all that shit made me different. Like, it really helped me, though. I really feel like I need to go to jail, bro. For real. How did it help you?

It made me like a mental, a mental warrior type shit. Like, I'm just so raw with thinking because it's like I didn't been forced to be around on so many goofies and niggins that's lying and just where you could just see the different character and people like it just helped me so much. Like even with just being by myself, like I could really be by myself.

You get what I'm saying? Like it just, it's like, man, I don't want nobody to go to that though, but if you go to out though, you can recreate yourself and just, you feel. So you think you like gained a lot of skills there that basically helped you to be able to navigate the real world once you got out?

Did I, yeah, yeah. I feel like everything in jail helped me out here right now. I feel like jail got me how, got me right here, right then. So when you was in jail, you was planning all, I'm gonna get it off and start rapping. Everything I'm doing right now. I said I'm gonna do this in jail. Everything.

And everything. Who were you having these conversations with? Who was kind of like pushing you? I was talking to my mama. I was talking to my mama. You know, Am I Sally? You type of shit, you know, niggas in jail, talking to motherfuckers type of shit.

But I was just, I wouldn't even one some niggas that was over talking to niggins in jail about nothing. Like, you guys, I didn't even over talking to a lot of niggas. I had a select few off a deck of a decker, 120 people. I talked to three niggas on the debt. You get what I'm saying? That's always been me at gone. I'm going to rotate with my goofies, give me a phone, make sure I got the phone every day

and everything else. I'm thrilled, you feel, you feel, but. Shit. So you didn't win for seeing any videos, you went to jail that's going to leak. They'll be fighting and shit. Yeah, yeah. I got some fight videos. I got some fight videos.

Listen, you got to understand. So look, I was in Cook County, and then I was in the joint, the penitentiary. Cook County is where it goes down there. That's where everybody is. I was in Cook County for three years. I got it on my whole time in that. Not like that.

So you'll see a couple fights or whatever. But when a joint, you don't do that shit in the joint. You're a bunk with a nigga in the shell, on the yards, some little shit like that. Like, you ain't just fighting in the joint type of shit. You lose time. You get what I'm saying? So I already had 85%.

So, like, I ain't, I wouldn't jagging myself in the joint. Like, I want, it wasn't no option to joint. It's just a different process in the joint period, though. You feel, my nigga tell you that dayline. But you steal, like, you'll get it on. You're bump into it my fucker that is really on with. But the joint and the county is two different things. So I was speaking on the joint, like, as far as my fuckers on the deck in the county,

it was all type of niggas. I was fuck with all type of niggins in that bitch, you. And zoo was in there with you? Yeah, me, Zoo was Sally's, like a year. What was that like? Love, man. That was the easiest, that was the easiest time ever. My whole time in Cook County, I was Sally's with one of my brothers, though, from the

real, like one of my real homies. So the time in Cook County was nothing, it flew. I did three years, and that bitch, like, nothing. Like, I didn't even feel like I was in there for three years. Hmm. Yeah. But Zoo and you, like, what would you even do to pass the time? Was there really shit to talk about or you kind of run out of subject matter to discuss

at a certain point? I know, yeah. I know, it's like, it's love, bro. I ain't gonna lie that shit. Like, I still think about that shit today, bro. Like, that shit just was love, bro. We just, it's, it's like, when you're in jail, it's a struggle. So it's like, you don't have nothing for real.

Like, here thing is just like, you right here, you and this, you know what I'm saying? You right here in this bubble. And then it's like, this your bro, like, y'all, y'all the same person. Like, y'all thugging, like, if anything happened in this bitch, bro, right with you. Like, he going, you know what I'm saying? So that shit was just like, it was like being on the block. It was the time. time, nigga.

The deck was so stacked. Like, all the guys, nigga, it was... Man, it was so many. It was THF, whole block, this block, that block. You see what I'm saying? Like, we literally looked like we was on the block type of shit. You remember where you met Zhu, like, outside of jail? Like, when you first met him, were you super young?

Yeah, I was, I was, I was, I was, 19. I met Zoo on wheels on my block. Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah, I remember Zoo. So what's the difference? because I know Zuby on 46 and then you 44. Ain't no difference. Yeah, but like just.

4, 4, 4, 6. Yeah. That's it. Just landscape while I was breaking down. Two block difference. It's 44th Street, 46th Street. And that's just the whole thing. That's it.

So it's like, I'm about 44th Street. You know what I was 46th Street, but we both 44th and 40. You know what I'm saying? So who was the first people really rapping from over there? Because like early, when I first seen Zoo was in the Little Dirk video, this ain't what you want. That's when I really started seeing, like. Rapping as far as...

Yeah, so who was over there rapping first? I think, I... Honestly, I can't tell you who was rapping first on the six. But Zhu was one of the first rappers, though. That'd be crazy, and... Oh, really? I can find this up? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, Zoo was one of the first rappers, though. Zoo, lonely, two pistols, TP. I could tell you, the first few rappers, G-baby, been rapping forever. G-baby was rapping when he was a baby, literally. I ain't gonna lie, bro It's hard to tell you know how it's like

It was different Like how it is now Like everybody rap That's how I was with the sixth A lot of the six rap Like on the four it was just Beasts and Cash For me it was just beast and cash

But on the sixth Zoot T-P-G baby Dre Money And I go on the whole six then It was rapping White rocks Brown weed What he said?

Greenweed You're a lot You locked up with Vaughn? Yeah, I liked that of Vaughan too. What was that like? Hey. Yeah, Vind never got... The camera this way, so like...

I bet. Be in Vind that we got on, uh... Be and Vahyne that was on deck with each other, though, but... Oh, okay. Vaughn kick ass. Ask anybody about Vaughn, they're gonna tell you, Vaughn, kick ass, bro. Right. So you was in there when him and Zoo was both beating their charges and shit, the same shit, right?

Yeah, I got a... Me and Zoolew, before he beat this charge, like, two months, we had went to... I went to the old, then he went to the old, and then he went to the old, be this shit like two months from us being studies yeah I was in the bond went home first yeah then zoo it was like back to back were you around when they did the beat that body video are you still locked up yeah I was around I was around for uh for the beat the body video though I got out I was out for that I was out for that was that was that was that did that seem like a legendary moment like in terms of just kind of like I don't want to say the number one

dudes but like some of the top dudes from two different neighborhoods coming together like that I don't want to assume. I don't want to assume, like, I mean, from the fans perspective, that's kind of like the biggest name from THF and then the biggest name from Oblo. Listen, you don't never got a shot away from saying that. You ain't, and no motherfucker gonna go against that.

You're me? Right. For real. I don't live, brother. I'm like, it ain't. Nah, them the biggest. But that song is like such a legendary song, but it must have felt like such a big deal to y'all as well.

Like, just the fact that they were facing all that time, beat it and then came together and made this song that was such a hit. I honestly feel like it was a regular normal day. It was like Zoo birthday or a Vahn birthday. It was like one of their birthday. It was a normal day though. It just, so it's like was variable to like,

so that's the thing. And this is what I had to see like a life is so big to the because the Irish motherfuck don't live. You know what I'm saying? So it should be so big to the next. But that shit just. just like normal life, like, you know what I'm saying? That was just a busing day.

You feel me? And it just, it was just on cut on film. Like, that's an everyday, that was an everyday thing. You never know, like, how important the era that you're in the middle of is gonna be until you're able to, like, view it down the line a little bit and see it and see what it meant to the fans or other people as well, you know?

No, for sure. That's why I'd be so important for a motherfucker like, be to stay a line. Yeah. You know, because there's a lot of shit my fucker don't know, like, you had to get it out. You see what I said?

Like, it's a lot of shit. But I feel like I've been here for a lot of it's for everything, though. I know a lot of shit. I'd be sitting thinking about that like, damn, I watched a lot of shit happen. Because, I mean, you always hear that of like, oh, that prior generation, the original era of drill, everybody's dead or everybody's locked up for 20 years. And like, you're one of the rare exceptions to that who's kind of seen it all and you're still around. Your music's still hot. Yeah, exactly.

Music can get hotter. I'm going to still be around. We're going BP's all 26. You hear me? Tell them niggas wrap that shit up, Joe. Loffin and take over his own, Adam. You hear me? You even Raymond, it's old with me and G.

Baby, we're going to wrap this bitch up. I was telling him. I ain't gonna lie. We ain't leaving too much room for ninks. If they ain't land with this shit, it's really like, fuck them. You should I'm saying. They're on the same side of the fence. And that's how we doing.

They go against this shit. Then that's on them. You're real. What you were saying, though? Well, okay, I want to ask, what's like the history of your name? By the ape? Yeah, well, where that comes from? What led up to that?

So look, my deity is law, you feel it? So my daddy, you know what it was? Like my daddy was doing it back in the day, you feel me? Yeah, shout out with Bigelaw too. I got to give him his flowers, babe. He felt like, oh, you get him his flowers. My daddy with that dude, though, you feel, I ain't going to write. Like, my whole growing up, I wanted to be like my daddy, you feel.

Yeah, just law. There's law, though. I ain't going to get out too much on the one of my fucking to him, you feel. Yeah. Yeah, though. So you got, I'm a junior. So naturally, come to the hood, like, my mama called me, me, and the shit. Like, that's my nickname.

But going to the hood, they used to, like, I built my daddy. That's a little law. So it just, the hood literally gave me my name. Man, what happened to the other little law? You got to ask them nigs that, Ramo. Who was them? Who was them niggis? You got to ask them.

When I heard the handle the song, it started off, what happened to the other little law? you gotta ask them. I started, I'm like, who the other little law? So I had to start, I'm still trying to piece it together. Man, I don't know. I just,

I just was trolling, man. I swear I don't know what happened to that. Man, we're going to get into a lot of this shit. It's a lot of shit that I've been having to ask you. We've been getting a little background story. All right. A lot of shit. I'm, come on.

Yeah, let go. All right. For one of the first things that really turned up. Cout. All right. Well, shit. We had Lise Ace Osama come up here. Losey ass cap.

And one of the first. biggest things was like y'all niggas back door them for his watch break down your side of the story or what happened i ain't i'm not i ain't gonna lie to you ramo i can't get you no side of story with that shit brother let me tell you why this for one i don't even speak on police ass shit yeah meaning that police ass shit meaning anything anything surrounding anything anything you something so with me i swear the guy i'm way smart than the fifth grade you hear me yeah so i know how to navigate i know how to drive the car see what i'm saying I'm not Lisei, bro.

You see what I'm saying? Lisei is. I don't know if it was the federal time he did. So now he got out like, I'm going to some federal shit. Like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. I don't know what it is, you feel it?

I don't know what it is, eh? Like, you hear me? But look, you see this? We ain't on all that, period. And I'm glad that you even say it's on the back home, so I'm going to show on how to answer the question. You see what I ain't speaking on that shit. I ain't have nothing to do with it.

I don't know nothing about it. That'd be like, it'd be like me telling you some shit, some fuck shit, just trying to create a narrative. I went there. I ain't, every past,

my name, I ain't had nothing to do with that shit. You know what I'm saying? But fuck that nigga on twin. That's how I feel about it. But y'all were all cool at one point. Yeah, it was all right. And it kind of ended because of the controversy

about these watches and everything? I honestly don't know what happened, bro. I just don't listen. This is why I don't happen. Look, this is how I'm answering the questions. Because I always thought I was like above. Maybe see how I'll answer the question.

That d'nig. the fuck this shit. Alright, let me ask you this thing because one of the things that was sell was he felt like, you know, Dirt had a song where you were saying, shit,

Zoo was chief out here, so the niggas look at Zoo like one of the stand-up niggas who can make shit happen over there. Zoo was supposed to get the watches back from him and they never got back to him.

Ramo. I don't know about the watches, bro. I just, listen, this is what I'm telling you, listen, let me just say. All I know is he was whooping about the shit, so I was speaking up about

what he was speaking up about You see what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, he's saying, ooh, out of the bam about my niggas. So I'm like, homie, I'm my niggas type shit. Like, that's how I'm carrying it. Like, you get what I'm saying? Yeah, but I don't know nothing about that shit for real.

I don't know nothing about the situation. But even if like, uh, there's another situation with the Mimo situation where niggas were trying to say, some niggas took his shit. So when we be seeing back-to-back instances of like, all right, dirt trying to build an OTF shit, but the niggas coming around on some hot shit. I'm glad you said. I'm glad you, no, keep going, but I'm glad just because I swear to God, Raymond, some shit being needing to be spoken on so it can get, so motherfuck can gain clarity on certain

situations. It'd be looking like, it'd be looking like y'all be on some hot shit when niggas is trying to bring everybody together. Right, and that's, and that's, that's the complete opposite. This is what I'm going to say, man. This is what I'm going to say. And this is just for people of everybody. Like, this is what I'm saying, man.

When you guys savages around you, feed them. You hear me? Like, feed the savages, brother. Like, when you got those niggas that feed me, like, I ain't saying don't feed the niggas that carry your clothes and your bags and shit neither, but I'm just saying like the niggas you know gotta hit that rack and gotta thug and go on,

you see what I'm saying? Yeah. For real, got a thug, for real. Like, feed them because they be hungry. You get me? And a nigger still, a nigger be hungry, but a nigger show you love and still give you honor by

taking a that with you and started taking you though you know what I'm saying like

so a can't be saying what it looked like a was doing or whatever and I'm not speaking on Dirk I'm speaking in general

so just to clear that up like I'm speaking in general that's why I said if you have savages around because the savages love the fuck

out of you you see what I'm saying like it applies for our situation the savages of love you will never do nothing to you ever up to about

a man you know literally like do it on camera for you. But, dude, now, a muff, be like,

anyway, like, so it'd be like, it's either, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? If you get tight on, my fuck,

gonna put the clumps on, do them. That's what it is. That's how I feel. That's just, that's just, for the period. That's just for the world of,

yeah, just in general. Of the world of shit. You see what I'm saying? And with, that's like, a motherfucker got to know a more need to,

though. A lot of that shit be kept for, like, y'all got to understand I'm gonna be dealing with labels and shit. So certain motherfuck labels be telling them to do certain shit. So when they're gonna drop,

it can do certain shit. You get what I'm saying? So you think he went on a press run saying niggas took a chain for, for promo, for the label? That's what it sounds like you're saying. I ain't saying that. I'm saying,

maybe. I'm saying, I don't know what happened. That's what I'm saying. No, I'm not. Listen, I'm not seeing. I'm not, I'm seeing with every situation, bro. It's gonna be always. what you think, bro.

Don't just be just because, you know what I'm saying? This nigga get on there and say, yeah, don't bitch ass niggas, niggas see me and ran. Whole time, the dude was already riding past him. And he was going out of the way and they busted you and couldn't find him, but he told you all they run, you see what I'm saying? Yeah.

That's what I'm saying. Like, the label would put the whole story together too, though. And say, look, bro, run with this. Like, I don't know. That's what I'd be thinking, bro. I don't deal with no label, so I don't know. But that's what they, that's what I heard. A lot of these niggas be.

be having the pool of stunts and shit. So when you be seeing people have all this shit to say about THF and nobody be speaking out, how you be feeling? Or you be seeing all the documentaries and shit, like, how'd that make you feel when you be like, damn, niggas be, because on the handling song, you be like, man, these niggas lying me on Reddit and shit.

You be seeing all the Reddit and shit. What you'd be thinking when you be seeing all that shit? I ain't gonna lie, I be, I don't like that shit, but if anybody know law they know, I don't give a fuck about shit. Like, I don't care about nobody else. I don't care about how. how you look at me, Ramon. Like, I don't get with fucking.

Like, I don't care about that shit. You see what I'm saying? But I don't like that shit. And a lot of that shit be boggling. Like, a motherfucker will put some shit like, they'll put, they'll put some foul shit on you. Like, damn, you feel? They'll put some wild foul shit on you.

Yeah, it'll be like a post on Reddit that's like, this dude killed this dude, this dude and this dude. And we're looking at it. We're interested, but also it's like, damn, the evidence for this is kind of weak. But, hey, the person posting it could be some random white kid in the suburbs or it could be the dude who lives next door to you that really knows exactly what went down so it's kind of hard for us to figure out sometimes.

I look at it to anything. My fucker go follow up because there's nothing else to do. Yeah. Man, this could be true. Let me see this shit like, man, bro. That shit be fool, bro. My fuck's laying on me on Reddit. Just, just cause, man.

Like, that shit's full. Real. But how you feel about people like Trappler-Ross who make the videos that kind of compile all this stuff? Like, this is how I feel like about him. I feel like, um, I feel like, um, And I honestly feel like Trapp Lord Ross, you're so lazy, bro. Like, you as a lazy ass

nigga, bro, for real. Like, white, you're a white nigga, bro. For real, that's some lazy shit you did, bro. Like, you just really just want to listen to all the interviews. You just went to put a lot of ain't nothing. He's saying, he don't even have people names right. If y'all fact check, Trapp Lord Ross shit, his shit really need to get took down.

Like, he don't even have names right. Like, Trapp Lord Ross literally, He went and watched. I don't know what, put a motherfucker on his desk. He went and watched everything he could and he was writing down shit to, and he just made a video on him. You know what I'm saying?

Like, you know, I always think I'm gonna do shit on other people. So I'd be like, you feel me? I don't know, I don't even really follow him, but I don't heard shit. Like, you feel, him, I'm on platform. So I always like, all right, but bro, I see now that, Trave Lord Rouse is the richest Kappa.

shit six hundred breezy said this shit that he's saying 95% true six out of breezy said that yeah he said that he told it to him on the interview yeah yeah you don't read those six hundred breezy like that

oh yeah but there's been other weird stuff because you know my boy lucky is like you know he ain't really like wrapped up in the gang politics or Chicago or whatever but he's a he's a fan of all the content stuff

and he'll hit me up sometimes and he told me one time he's like you know Trappler-Raz get a lot of shit right, but this one, like, I forget what video it was, but he's like, this one video got so much bullshit in it. He's like, he just f***ed up so much shit in this video. And I wish I could remember which one he was talking about. But it's like, yeah, I mean, I'm sure it goes both ways.

Some videos are a lot more accurate than others. You got to think about this, like, okay, the facts about this person being charged for calling, for killing this person, that's facts. You get what I'm saying? So if you take that facts and mix that with some bullshit, like y'all, y'all do this all the time, clickbait. Y'all gonna have this shit say, ooh, ooh, save, dude, you know what I'm saying?

Like, you get what I'm saying? Like, so that's how it is. He take a fact and he'd be a bullshit with it. So yeah, this person really is charged for killing him. So that's factual. You can go look this up, you can go look him and his name up, and he's gonna be right there. You see what I'm saying?

You're gonna be right there for that. Like, that shit ain't. That shit ain't always there. But I wanted to tell you, though, too, though, Raymond. I feel like niggas be switchy sides. That's all. Because you had asked me how I felt about that shit, though. I feel like niggas be switch to size and shit.

What you mean by that, breaking down? YouTubers or artists? No, no, no. Yeah, just period. People in general, like, have it. Like, if it look good on this over here today, that's what people are going to be at. So you can't really.

You know what I'm saying? You can't really be too deep on where I'm gonna forget today because tomorrow I could be, you know what I'm saying? It could be a whole different shit. People ain't, you just only could fault your people. So how another man really viewing look at that sort of shit, you just can't really, I'm fucking gonna switch the eyes anyway because the wind could blow. You know what I'm saying? It can get cold over there. It could be warm on this side.

My fuck gonna go where it's warm or my fuck might wanna be cold. You see what I'm saying that everybody's switching sides with the young boy shit. How you feel about that? niggas is uh do you fuck with young boy music because that's the thing it's like it's like it's like 50-50 either i fuck with young boy i don't fuck with young boy do you fuck with young boy music um that are you listen to young boy got some good music bro right yeah it's the thing where it seems like people in chicago they'd be feeling like they got to pick syska dirt has some one of them and shit you don't be feeling like that i mean you do got to pick a sad i mean it's just that's what it is

I feel like that too but that ain't got nothing to do with a motherfucker music like yeah how you support the motherfuck music though yeah like she you know what I'm saying

she didn't look crazy posting young boy but you say that but then we just seen she Keith in the studio with young boy they dropped the song

it's fire what was your thoughts on that when you see shit like that what you think I feel like you're old motherfucker you start new things as far as like

it's like this bro this is how I feel about that I feel like that's in a way It could be peace. Like, you feel in me? Like, I don't know, bro. I'm just grown, bro.

I don't know. Like, I had to see what's to that shit, bro. I don't just feel no type of way about it, though, bro. Like, I don't feel like, I don't feel weird about it. Like, you said it could be peace, though, like, in a good direction. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it could be peace. Like, eh.

I don't know if a motherfucker's see. I can't speak on that. That's not, like, you know what I'm saying? I'm talking about, like, as far as with it, being directly and tour with the motherfucker, like, I don't know if that's something that's a motherfucker who want to keep going, but you got to think it's lost lives and shit. So you feel me?

Like you can't never tell no motherfucker how to feel about certain shit. So I don't know, bro. I just can't put my input on that shit. I mean, it would be one thing that I'm doing a song together if young boy had never really like reveled in the fact that somebody from his team had basically taken a top O'Block person's life. But he did kind of at a certain point. And it's like I know even some of that stuff.

Like he didn't want some of those songs to come out, but they did come out, people seen it. So it's very easy to understand why people got issues with it. But at the same time, I mean, Chief Keefe in a lot of different ways has kind of made it clear that he's not necessarily really concerned or what's going on in the streets of Chicago. We ain't really heard him talk about anything in so long. I'm going to tell you something. I'm going to add to what everything you're saying. Right.

Didn't you see Jay Main walked through a block? Briefly. Didn't you see Jay Main? and I'm telling you shit I've seen. Yeah. Did you see Jay May and Ike doing like some wearing pink, like some breast cancer or shit? You think that right?

Yeah. Didn't you see J. Main say blank, multiple fallen soldiers? Before, yeah. Follow me, right? Okay, so if this person did the same thing, right? I'm just saying as far as with I'm talking about soul sick and young boy

it's the same shit bro it's the same shit bro like you know what I'm saying so I can't I don't know bro I'm just grown bro I don't know bro I ain't got no feelings on that shit so you with the pushing piece movement

you with all that is I'm with the pushing piece movement yeah yeah yeah I support pushing piece I support positivity bro I'm a good guy bro You know that? I think people have the wrong perception of me, bro. You think people think you a bad guy?

Yeah, I'm a good guy, Joe. Yeah. Yeah, for real, man. I'm a little slammy little dude, man. But I'm a good guy. I ain't going to have to eat. So you'll sit down with some of your ops then? Not at all.

Don't go too far, Ramo. We're not doing that. I'm just saying you said, you just talking about J. Mane linking up with some of the people that he might not. I didn't say I would do none of that. So you wouldn't do that. you want to go that far? No, that all, bro.

I ain't that grown. You get them. I stay away from their ass before I sit down with them. Yeah, for sure. Shit, man. Little diggers, Joe. Fuck, you tell that. All right, dude.

All right, so what was your relationship with TP? TP, that's my big brother, man. Love and the death, man. I don't know that, my brother, man. I ain't going to laugh, bro. It'd be so hard when you lose a brother, man. Like, it's, like, especially when you don't really go through that shit, when you don't deal with it.

Like, I ain't saying, like, it's cooler when you, you know what I'm saying? You lost multiple lives or nothing, but, like, we don't really, you know what I'm saying? We don't really suffer from, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, that shit, don't be voice that you can't feel, bro. Like, zoo, TP, bro, you can't. It's like, and it's fresh, bro, that shit's still fresh. You know what I'm saying? Like, no brother like, just love my brothers though, you feel?

And like, I don't live my brothers, man. Just not the harp on it too much, but like, where were you at when you got the news about zoo passing and shit? And then... I was in the house. Can you break down, like... Because people were saying he was changing down, they were saying he was in a neighborhood that he was, like, how far is that neighborhood from where y'all live at? Just like, simple shit like that. Because they say he was like way out of bounds, like where he, nowhere and shit over there, nothing like that usually goes.

down. We go to, let's go skip that. I want five, though. I want that file. I mean, it went that far. It was a little, it's. But that's not like a hood area where y'all from, though, right? That's just like me. I don't like talking about Zoo, but I ain't like, yeah. Yeah, especially not that situation. Like, we can go to the next question or something, though. How much was Zoo behind you rapping, though? Because I've seen them in your videos and shit. Like, how much was he pushing for you to, to be a rap and like, hey, we gotta take this shit serious. Zoo's behind me, bro. Zoo's behind me a thousand percent.

Zooz was with me, a thousand, bro. Zoo, Zoo, everything, bro. Zoo, half of my career. Yeah. Zoo pushed me since Zoo heard me. You wish he had took his music career more seriously? Yeah, yeah, you always talk about that. I used to be trying to get, bro, to drop music and rap and shit.

Wow. Why he ain't driving a music? Man, then they got some features with everybody. Why he ain't, why are you sitting on them? Why were you sitting on all the music? He just wasn't, he ain't careful that shit for real. Bro, don't care for that shit. He ain't really, it was like a thing,

my fuck, was doing that shit because it made sense when he was doing that shit. But bro never cared to do that shit for real. I don't feel like he had the passion for it. Bro, like, love dogs and cars and, bro, like, doing shit, you feel? Bro, I don't know. He ain't really careful that rap for shit.

Bro, so just dude, you feel. Definitely. Um, okay. Sorry. How do you be feeling when the niggas be saying, like, 21 Savage recently said, fuck the streets. How do you feel about the streets moving?

Fuck the streets. Yeah, I'm with it. See, I feel like niggas is, you gotta understand. It would be something to talk about. Niggas would be goofies, though. Like, a nigger would tell you, a nigga, it's like this.

It's like, all right. Once you in this shit, like, it's like you and this shit so it's like, all right, you know what you signed up for, that's you like, that's what it is. Like, you feel it, but the streets is this, like, it wasn't, it wasn't like the streets, like, we all streetlings, you feel

him, it's just like, if a nigga, it's just like, this, this, this, this, the, this is the simplest way to put it, I swear to God. It's just like if you're sitting in a county jail, right? Yeah. Say you sitting in the county, and the nigga be like, and the nigga be like, um, the, uh, the CEO come in,

you gonna respect this jail and the motherfucker will be like this jail that means the motherfucker saying fuck all the niggas in jail you get what I'm saying so that's just like the streets the jail is the streets

you get what I'm saying like look at the like just because I'm saying the streets that don't mean I'm saying the street niggas or that's just niggas was trying to

take something to turn it and twisting it to a negative like a nigga saying some shit like ah you my nigga got something going on now ooh like some weird nah, niggas is goofy

and they just want to take a negative from a positive but in reality, like if you got a child or a son growing up is you gonna tell your son getting the streets, go go kill. You're gonna be like, oh yeah, son, go kill my fuck

and get the street sale drugs, bro. Choose this shit, lose your own. You gonna tell them, I'm gonna tell them, man, fuck the streets, bro. I made more money doing this. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, that's how I got the narrative.

That's the narrative I was pushing. Like, still, you see what I'm saying? So, yeah. I mean, that's why I was, what 21 said is either like kind of genius or it was just way too vague because people were able to read into it whatever they want like some people heard that and they thought he was basically saying hey if people snitch it's all good we we shouldn't tell them to not come around no more yeah that ain't what he was saying though that way that's not what that's saying man was

man that's stupid shit like just go you go say like hell no man but that's just how I want to spend some shit though. For sure. So 21, like, offered to pay for Zuz's funeral and shit. You know what their relationship was? You ever been around him? Yeah, yeah. 21, he's through.

21, said him and Zoo, used to talk every day on the phone and shit. Yeah, yeah, he paid for, bro, for him. He, 21, throw, bro. Yeah, yeah. You got a relationship with him, and that was just, like, kind of zoo home. I fuck with 21. Oh, right? Yeah, yeah.

Shalene you with you, you and her linked up out here at some, right? You'll be on a lot of shit. I do. Come on. You post on your story. I'm just saying, though. You, you be just... So you, you're the one who found out of everything up?

No, I just get it sent to it. I get sent shit, and then I ask shit, man. I ain't, I'm like, I was wondering about you too, Ramo. I'm like... Well, what's you wondering, man? Because you ask all the questions, and you'd be asking some shit, and I'll be watching some shit,

and you'll be asking some shit that I'd be watching, and I'd be like, how he asking that shit? He'd be asking him that shit. Like, you know what I'm saying? He's tapped in. He just said he ain't tapped in, though. No, he's super tapped in.

He knows what's going on. A little bit more than me. It's a little harder for me to put all the pieces of a puzzle together, but he knows. Right. You think I'm tapping. I ain't going to lie. What I think is this.

That's what I think. What you think, man. I think you got a liberty or some shit. In Chicago? Globally. I don't know how you, listen. You know a lot of shit you should know, though. Not seeing you know a lot of shit that you could know,

but it's okay. No, but I'm saying like you asked a lot of questions that'd be like, How do you from Mississippi? How to fuck do Raymo from Mississippi? You see what I'm saying? He was in California. How he acts in all these fucking crap?

I feel like you'd be throwing out of shit. Like, ask this Adam. Don't give him a spreadsheet. You see what I'm saying? But sometimes we get off camera and dudes will be like, yeah, so-and-so killed so-and-so. Say shit that they would never say on camera.

100%. Damn. There's a lot of shit, niggas, no, niggas might not say on camera-type shit. You know how commos be off-camera and then niggas do it. I don't type of guy.

But you know, niggas. But you know, niggas are wolf and say a whole bunch of shit that do? No, listen. I was probably, listen to him, brother. See, me, listen, I am not talking like that at all. I don't know. It ain't there, body, but. No, I'm telling you.

I would turn. I don't know. Y'all say, huh, sir? Come again, sir? No, I didn't. A gun. What is that? Like, for real, boy, I don't do that.

Talk about doing what? Somebody. Well, I walk off on your ass, boy, we ain't doing anything. You ain't doing anything. I don't even do that type of stuff. I rap for real. I'm a artist. I don't even want to be around certain conversations.

So if people can't ask me certain things, you see what I'm just an artist. So I know how to articulate things. Just so orally. Like, you see what I'm saying? But I ain't going to laugh. Boy, I don't even, them type of conversations, I am going to run away from your ass. If a nigga be standing right here and he say some shit like that, I'm going to walk off. We don't.

We don't blame them at all. Yeah. I would never ask for that kind of information, but sometimes people just kind of volunteer. I don't know. I don't be asking nigg. I believe you. Man, niggas of Valentine's shit. Get high, nigger, been to hit the cup,

be running this shit. Niggas to say shit off camera and have relationship with a nigga off camera and say open the shit because they know I ain't gonna be on here, like, over-y, tight shit. But I wouldn't do that. Like, if somebody asked me about who killed so-and-so and some LA shit, even if I 100% know, if nobody's been charged or whatever,

I don't want to talk about it. I'm not, that's not my business to even be spreading any kind of rumors. I ain't even going around asking for a nigger a nigga might volunteer information because they want you to know. I might have asked some shit and the nigger the nigger answered it a weird way, but they just want you to know type shit. It'd be a lot of that.

Shit, I had, oh, so you seen a video that dropped? It was like, oh, if I want to Kimmy on and Rila? Yeah, I see that. Yeah, yeah, let's talk about that. What was your thoughts on that video? Because niggins be saying I have a birdie and shit, everybody's trying to figure out where the video came from, shit like that.

When you seen shit like that, what was your thoughts on that video? What I'm saying? Shit, I ain't gonna lie, see. When I see that shit, I said, I said, that's what I said. I said that nigga, bitch. Soon as I seen that shit, I said that nigga, bitch.

Ew. Hey, look, I ain't going to lie, though. He's so scared. I ain't going to lie. I watch that shit like 10, 20 times, bro. I say, damn, bro, like, because I ain't going to lie. He'd be, you know what I'm saying? He be acting.

So I just, she, I thought he was, you know, I thought he had little respect her. This is it. He, Trilling him. He said, he always getting robbed. Then respect him in the streets. You heard? What was that got him?

You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. Rico said y'all always ask the questions about me. I'm doing. Hey, boy, hey, boy, this, but yeah. Their respect his ass, that's a goofy. That's how I thought about, though. I was laughing at that shit, like,

damn, that's crazy. That shit crazy, though. Man, what's your relationship with drilling, man? I'd be seeing y'all just be going back and forth with a little saint, a little slick shit. What are you going to go back in four? No, no, no, no, he did. All right, his shit, trash.

You said something like that. I said that. I said that. I don't need, I swammer. I'm saying that shit. You definitely said that. You don't think none of your ops correct? Like, none of them niggas got bars or anything?

Like, who you think? No. I don't know. I don't think. I ain't, I ain't, nah, that's a nigga, bro. I'm trying to think, so I could get a niggins some craddy. But yeah, no, fuck them, niggins. But you ain't a nigga, like, op music, come on, you cunned that shit all.

You're not something. For sure. No, I feel it. I feel it. Turn that shit right out. Yeah. I mean, it's got to be tougher, like, the bigger they get. bigger they get. It's like, you know,

cars gonna be driving by listening to it at a certain point. Yeah, I ain't got no big off, though. You said that was the best song he dropped. Driller dropped the song when he was saying some shots at you. You said that was the best song he dropped ever. I said that, bro. Remmel, I'd be high, bro. You'd be saying a whole much shit. You know, it's like five people on my

page, so you probably see some shit on that. Nah, does it be used? Talking speaking out loud, you sure? Maybe you said it in corporate or you probably put it on IG. I think I was in your corporate cartel interview. Maybe, I don't know. Maybe. If I see it, I said it, brother.

But if you ain't see me say that shit, brother, you got a niggins running your page. Boy, it's a hacker. It's just, look, y'all think I'm playing. It's this little kid from Russia. Bro, he's like a little trap Lord Rose. Y'all ain't see he did. Boy, he'd be-ha-old.

Nah, I did. He hacked my shit again like two weeks ago. Yeah, yeah, your shit been getting hacked. I just put all type of authenticators and shit on that shit. Like, he'd be doing weird shit, bro. I don't know. Like, so, but, man. Is the little kid in Russia a real person, or is it a metaphor for?

I don't know. I'm using him. That's what I'm saying. I don't know. I'm saying like, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's a, I'm a fucking fool. I don't know who it is. Yeah.

We all got a little kid in Russia inside of us. Yeah, nah, it ain't me. It ain't me. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Who the fuck? Real shit. They need to stop, though.

Man, if you had to put a number in it, how many people you think you lost to the street shit? Too many. I ain't going to lie. Too many. I lost too many people, man. I ain't going to lie. Like,

To the streets, man, I tell all the kids, man, don't get in the streets, man. I ain't gonna lie. Play sports, don't do drugs as long as you can. You feel, me? Yeah, I fain you something, man. I ain't gonna lie. Fank you something to do. Like, get you a trade or something, do something, get you some money going young, start young.

And just, you feel, just stack you some paper because you're going to need that money to live, man. And the street's going to send you to jail, for real. Or you're going to lose everything that you work for in the streets. to the streets. I just, you know what I'm saying? Just stay out the streets, man.

Just do something else, man. What was your thoughts when T.HF. Moody was Dane Blazing, dog, man? When he was, Dane Blades, dog? Yeah.

I ain't gonna have to support it there. Hell yeah. You wasn't thinking like, man, this could be some backdoor shit. We don't need to. You supported it all the way? About this,

this is what you got to understand. This is what, this is how I always think about when, when a nigga with a bitch that he don't post to be f*** with or a bitch with a nigga shit

and he don't post be fucking with. Listen, they rotate with each other, meaning they know if they can get up with each other as far as like, if they feel comfortable enough, you know, with each other, you get in what I'm saying? Yeah. So if you see them on the internet posting a picture with each other, that mean they're comfortable, they've been, they're comfortable enough to show you, you know what I'm saying? Yeah.

So if you, for sure, this is an op, this is an op bitch. So bro know this, like, sure you know this, not bro, but sure you know this, whatever. He knows this is our bitch or whatever. So if you think he's just getting up with her and not dropping lows as far as I'm like, I'm right here. I'm right here, I'm right here,

you see what I'm saying? Like, that's what I do. Like, if I get out with my fucking I'm supposed to get out with, I'm going to drop every location. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm right here.

I'm right here. We're in this car. You see what? So you're saying, y'all had all blazing doll low? I ain't saying that, bro. I'm not trying to.

That's what I'm saying. I was wondering. I was wondering. I'm like, is that what you're saying? with shit from what I'm telling you. All right, so what did you say? Break it down.

I'll just tell you the smart man that's gonna drop out of locations to where you're going. If you're doing something you're supposed to be doing, brother. I ain't said that nothing about having no blazing down location. I was never run. I don't even, bro, like, I don't even know blazing dollar, bro. Yeah. I don't even, no. I don't even, I ain't even, like.

But you ain't never think like, damn, this could get tricky. Like, hey, you don't need to even be, you know, I ain't had that conversation with him. Nobody told him, like, shut that down. I ain't a lot. I ain't allowed to, bro, uh, in a year or so. I don't know. I was going to tell you, like I wasn't even.

I was just seeing shit like you were seeing on the internet. Where? Why I don't talk no more? It's not even nothing like that. I don't, that just ain't talked to him. He, he's a T. He's a rep over there.

No, his name, a little move. He ain't T. Oh, right? A little moot. Yeah, no, he ain't T. But he used to be? Yeah, I think he was, uh, yeah, he was THA. Sure.

You got any feelings about that? Like, normally people. No, no, it's elevation. I support it. Okay. So he willingly dropped his flag? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, shit.

You don't hear about that every day. Yeah. So are you big on public transportation? Public transportation? I wouldn't catch no public transportation. I had to go to court or die. Right. But in your biggest song, you're, like, talking about the bus stop.

Yeah. Oh, that bus stop. Oh, man. I gave me cam. Yeah, that was just, that's an ex-cribable. Yeah, lonely at TP, you feel me. That's my brother. Y'all go look at that song,

he made the first bus stop. So it was a tribute, like, to bro shit, like, you see what I'm saying? That's it. None of nothing else. Man. Look at it. What's that?

No, you don't even know, Adam, you've been looking at me crazy. I'm like, Adam, we're off an adie or something, Adam. No, because you're trolling and then you're, like, serious, and it's kind of hard to figure out where you're, I mean, obviously, I understand that this was all, this whole conversation.

Yeah, you think. I'm trolling. I'm just told, see, that's why I be, that's why I always blow people, man, because it's like, they be thinking I'm just so unboxed, you know what I'm saying? Unboxed. Yeah, like, just everywhere.

And I'm telling you, Adam, I'm a real good guy. I'm telling you. Like, Adam, I'm a very nice guy. But you could be a really good guy to the people that you love and be a demon to anyone you don't like. You're a thousand percent, right. Right. Yes, you hit that on the head, Adam.

Yeah. Yes, I can be a fucking demon. It's like when you see the videos of the mom crying and saying he was a good boy, and then Trappler Ross drop a video a week later, and you're like, damn, he wasn't such a good boy. See, me and my mama got this thing, right? I'm a barrier. See what I'm saying?

We're going to put that on record. Like, me and I got that thing. Like, we got that deal. See what I'm saying? My mom ain't going to bury me. That's the deal we got. So you're going to move out of Chicago? Because I'd be hearing mad niggas say that shit, but niggas be still in Chicago.

So that don't make you... I don't stay in Chicago. now, bro. That's good. That's good to hear. See? They think I'm boxed in. I'm telling you.

What? You see what? That's good to hear, that's good to hear. That's good to here. I don't stay in no, Chicago. Where you're staying now?

What state? Let me drop my low. I mean, not the actual low, but. I ain't doing that. We don't get a question. How long you've been out of Chicago? Everybody can know anyway.

I'm from going to go up on. I moved to Cali, bro. I'm in Cali. I'm in hell now. I thought you're only here for a day. Who told you that? Remo. No, no, I tell Rima, I gotta go back and get my clothes.

I gotta leave. Oh. Yeah. We can get some clothes out here. Yeah? Yeah. You need some Valabas's jeans. I got you.

I don't know where that shit. Don't do that on camera. Stop doing that. I don't, bro. I don't want to do that. I don't want you to drop the pin. I was just wondering, you know? No what I'm saying?

I want to eat child. Valabasis, bro. Okay. No, I'm saying. Like, I ain't, don't make me like I'm dissing them because I don't, I really wear that shit, though, for real. Oh, yeah. Well, I don't.

was having an off-camera conversation. That was just on my mind because Blueface was wearing those jeans last night and I was just thinking about them. Yeah, see, I can't. I was just thinking about Blueface? Just like, I've never had like a pair of jeans with like a big tag,

like a flag just hanging off the back. I ain't same thing. Yeah, I got to follow Blueface. Blueface, yeah, I got a lot going on. Yeah, I got to check Blueface out. Do people in, I feel like people in L.A. Watch documentaries about people in Chicago. Do people Chicago watch documentaries

about people in L.A.? Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. watch I get high. I watch everything, bro. I'd be up smoking, watching all type of shit, bro. I just turn on the TV. I'd be trying to keep up with what's going on. So I'd be trying to know what's going on there.

I'd be wanting to know politics and shit, too. Like, you feel? Yeah, I'd be wanting to know politics and shit. But does everything else in the country seem maybe not as hardcore as it is in Chicago? Yeah, no. Everything, some shit is as hardcore than Chicago. People don't understand that. some shit way harder than Chicago

it's just Chicago this is the thing about Chicago Chicago is just like that like it can happen like that certain cities it's probably just it just don't happen just like that but it's way more deadlier or a motherfucker's doing it way different it's just

Chicago is it's just Chicago bro like in his own so what city do you get credit to it can get like that that you like yeah for sure what cities I get credit to? I'll back I'm gonna get credit to the D, Atlanta. Gotta give credit to Cali.

Oh, you see it. You said, shit, that's it for real. I ain't taking no leaving nobody out, but you said like, I fuck with it. I mean, you just saw a city that can get like that type of shit.

Oh, no, you said that it could get like that. Yeah, I mean, you're just saying, Chicago ain't, only. Hell no, I'm thinking you're saying, see, cities that can get like that, but I ain't going to like, I had to go so far down and down, because there's some cities that get.

like that I ain't gonna lie in that. See, I don't, I know some shit that get like that. Like, I had to tell you about New Orleans. I had to tell you like, you see what I'm saying? Like, I had to tell you about, like, I had to tell you about, like, I know some shit. You see what I'm saying? Niggas, I f*** with this shit, like, Trent shit. Like, I had to tell you about Houston, that type of shit.

How come you ain't ever signed an OTA? How come I ain't never signed the OTA? Yeah, was that a thing? No, yeah. It seemed like Dirk was picking up mad people from over there signing them and shit. Was that ever like on the table for you or you just ain't on the song? Yeah. No, I ain't gonna lie.

I just ain't, I just ain't, I'm hit your back, folk. I'm up here. Yeah, no, I, um, I just, it was, it was just never a thing, for real. I was just with bro, no one, it wasn't, no, um, I really wasn't rapping it even get sand at that time. I, well, yes, I will, I just start rapping. But, um, I don't know, I just feel like it is, it just, one minute, for real. Hey, you know, OTF Jam? Oh, yeah, I know, Jim.

How do you be feeling when niggas be trying to just throw that jacket on him? I don't know, bro. I have to see it, bro. I ain't got nothing to see it about that either, bro. I don't know. That shit weird, bro. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't be in none of that shit. Yeah. You see what I'm saying? You don't want to speculate until it's written in stone? Yeah, because it's going to be, just sit back. So it's like, why I even be, just sit back?

Just sit back. That's what I'm doing. I'm sitting back like this album. But I, you know him, is that something of his character that you can even see? Or you're like, hell now, bro. And I'm going to answer that like this. Brother, I don't, character don't mean nothing. When people put them clumps on your LSU, yeah.

Character don't mean nothing. How don't, bro, character ain't shit. I don't, I don't push shit past no. Yeah, you had to be thoroughly tested for me, you see what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, I can't, I don't know. I ain't gonna lie. As niggas that you, man, come on now.

These niggas, you know history, bro. Yeah. You know history. Like, hell no, what's all type of shit? Like, you can't just say out for character. So, I don't know. I don't know. I ain't really.

That shit weird. What's so with all T.HL. Lennar, man. She'd be out there making our beats. Lina? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got tapping on with her. Man, ain't gonna lie Linda family, man.

Zoo. I tapped in with her through Zoo. She just was, you know doing a damn what's it called what she playing the piano she was doing the piano

with my beats and shit we're rapping we just locked in with her though she's a real genuine she's a nice sweet girl I fuck on

though that's a real shit she cool how do you decide on like what type of beats you want and who you want to make music with

and shit like what's the music process like for you ain't a lot really like whoever I listen to them the majority of my father

I listen to I didn't know can make music with a I already posed to a deal type shit the process

with me getting music like I'm you know what saying my fucks fuck with me so this be a thing

or reaching out or saying something I want to do type shit for real like the process of doing

songs with motherfuckers is easy me picking a beat be really the vibe shit have I'm feeling

like I'm right so I just play the beat and just catch it come on see how I'm

come on that bitch and just start putting that shit on that and then I say I do it. Shit, who would you want to work with? Like, if you got a tape dropping and shit, you get any features on that motherfucker,

who would you put on your, who would you put on your tape of album? I ain't gonna lie, who I'm trying to get on my tape in my album right now. I need 21, 21 her, I need them to you guys, I need Peezy, I need, I need, ain't gonna lie, I wanna do so, Um, uh, uh, damn, what's my dog, man?

I gotta get my dog's wild, too, man. Hold on, let me tell ya. My nigga leak, though. I gotta get it to y'all right, though, though, though. Don't y'all go f*** my nigga, league. Where are you from? Gee, baby, you know I'm gonna do some. G baby going on, man.

Leak, I want to say he from, um, he from, like, Mississippi. I'm gonna tell you right now, though, though. The rob is with the wings and, um. And you find it. But my nigga leak, man. Damn, bro. I'm gonna get it right, though. You feel slept on?

Me, yeah, yeah, I'm overslept on, man. I'm gonna wake the ass up all over again, though. You feel? Myfuckers, motherfuckers. It's a motherfucker local a little bit, though. I'm gonna wake their heads up. I feel like they were waking up, but it took a minute for people to kind of like start catching on.

Why do you think it started? Like, why do you think they're catching on now and why it took so long? Why I took so long? I ain't allowed for like, because I'm just authentic. and I don't pull gimmicks and stunts. Like, I don't do shit for a fast traction. It's five like this.

And you see, I don't this. I don't do that. I don't, I don't this. You do this, though. I don't do this, though. Bro. The whole bus stop thing is a dish. Come on, man, that's probably like a force.

See, some shit be forced upon me, too. Yeah. But I'm saying that's why I'm like, if you go to my catalog, brother, I don't diss. Like, I'm not a every song. I don't, you see what I'm saying? Even if I say some shit, like, Them niggas.

It's like, I'm saying that. I'm not saying. You get what I'm saying, though? But it's still a dis, even if you. I'm not saying, I'm not saying that. I'm saying like, okay, just say for instance, some niggas whole reason they get 100,000 views is because they saying, him rolling up this nigger, riding around, who I liked him.

You see what I'm saying? You get the difference. You're not doing direct disin. Like, you kind of like. I'm saying, I don't diss, bro. No, no direct disin. You got to understand. I'm not saying I don't.

I have, I don't. I don't. I don't. I ain't dissing songs. I'm not saying I have not done it. I won't do it again. I'm not saying that's not my formula. Like, go listen to my song.

Yeah, and I heard a lot of them. Let's just switch the side. Them not disses, bro. I'm not dissing. Like, I don't say nothing about the options, no songs. Like, just because I'm saying, them niggas ain't having shit or like, you get what I'm saying, just because I'm dissing them, that's not a dis.

A diss track, a diss song is saying, f*** this nigga. That's what I'm saying, like, dead, speaking on the dead. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like, niggas speak on a dead. They say 15 dead niggas name. So you're going to post it.

He's going to repost it. You know what I'm saying? Because he said, oh, yeah, he talks about this person. I don't do that. You get what I'm saying? So you feel like if you was overly dissing this shit, your music and shit would have took you up. Of course. So, hell, yeah.

Do you see how burnt out he is? He thinks that every dis, it's not a diss song unless you're, like, actively going at dead people and dissing and talking like that. I didn't say that. I might be burnt in because I do feel like. that a little bit but I ain't say that I'm saying because I just see it I you can say I dissing I'm saying dissing the dead all right mark is dead and you kind of diss them in that song okay I did that that's what I'm saying I'm not saying I have

not done it yeah okay you see how you said that song yeah okay well other songs why the songs got just the dead in brother there's a lot of drill rappers where that's like literally all they do yeah that's what I'm talking about and guess what guess how you know them for that that's all they do You get I'm saying, you don't know me from that. That's not how you're going to know me. Like, that's one song. Like, even the GW.

After-Life song ain't really know. Like, you, come on, bro. You got to understand. Like, what we're saying, me and we don't do that. Like, yeah, we can really, we can do that. Yeah. And it'll go like that. Like, a dub.

But I'm saying, that's not what I'm aiming for. I'm not looking for a little window. Like, I ain't trying to just be the, yeah. Raymo post me. Go up, get 200,000 views and I don't get no shows. Like, that ain't what I'm doing. You know what I'm doing. Like, I'm building a catalog of my streams going up as I drop.

My shit getting... I ain't going to even go too deep, but you get them saying. Yeah, I feel you... You ever thought about... I get thousands for features. Like, I get dog shit. I don't do that shit, bro. Like, I don't even do songs with motherfuckers.

You know what I'm saying? I forgot to pay me, bro. You've been trying to get a label deal or any labels reach out to you or anything? You know? You're working on. A lot of shit going on, man. A lot of shit going on. They got to be reaching out, man.

Yeah, I always been reaching out, man. They stopped the little moment. They stole. We just gonna fall out, Ramo, bro. Oil spill. No, though. No, yeah, the lady was reaching out of shit, though, man. They ain't did nothing yet, though, man.

I'm trying to get it going, though, man. It's gonna go around in a minute, though, man. You feel me? So, 2026 is the THF year? Yeah, six. That's what we call. Because if you add the two and the two together, it's a four. So it's like four, six.

Is that how this came together? That kind of makes sense, though. That's why I assumed it was, but... And this guy, it's like, Allah just like, y'all do this. This y'all, yeah, go here. And that's what we're doing. We're taking this bit. When you become Muslim.

When I become Muslim, I took my shahada with Zuma. Like, like, like, man, you know, like nine months a year ago. Almost a year. Like 10 months. Okay, like 10 months. That's what so. Man, who would you put on the Chicago Mount Merritt? Westmore.

Chicago Mount Westmore. Yeah. I'm gonna put, I'm gonna put LA Capone. Mm. I'm put Chief Keefe. I'm put a little dirt. I'm put me. I'm put G baby.

I left some people out. That's how many five, right? You like four, but yeah, I get that. I'm trying to see where I left out, though. Dirk and Vaughn. Uh-uh, no, no, no. Vaughn. I got to put Dirk on that.

I put Dirk on that, Dirk was number two. Yeah, Dirk was number two. Yeah, that's my six. Let me ask you this. I gotta put myself on that bitch, ain't gonna lie. Did you see the viral picture, a nigga thrown up the rakes and her face? How you feel about that?

Niggas was trying to say he should have crashed out. I feel like he handled that shit, like how he's supposed to. What was your thoughts on that? I feel like he handled it like a real, like he got millions. Like, I feel like he did. You're not crashing out for that shit. What you're gonna, you finna?

You fin to do a, man, come on, man. I don't know what he posed did, that he did wrong, he didn't do. I mean, her was a very popular rapper. I bet that shit happened to a million times. Playing rolling loud. You got 10,000 people in front of you, 20,000 people, somebody throwing up some gang signs that you don't like. You got a, you know what it's like? It's like the NBA players when you hear somebody screaming from the stand saying some disrespectful shit. It's like they got millions of dollars on the line. They can't just crash out. It's like touch me.

Yeah. See what I'm saying? Like, dude like, you know what I'm saying? That's how I feel. Like I ain't, bro. I ain't do shit wrong to me though. I ain't gonna lie, bro. And motherfuck gotta understand. When you get to a certain type, when you get to a certain level, like crashing out is stupid. Like, a motherfucker like, man, I'm a motherfucker wanting to sleep with no niggas, man.

Being no se with no nigger and you're in the bed with a, you know what I'm saying? Every day. Who want to swap that out? For not doing more in that situation? It's the same people, if he had just swung on the fool and got arrested, they'd be the ones laughing about.

Oh, this dumbass. He was a dude for that noughts out. He hung out of that n'clock. Yeah. He handled it like a rich man, Joe, like a grown man. Hey, did you know duck? Niggas was trying, nope, I ain't know him.

Niggas was trying to get a bag. Myfah where the hell of him? Myfow had been suing him. He would got locked up, my fuck, been suing him. This should be, I got my fuck about to wake up, though. Yeah, no, I feel. No, I feel. No, I feel.

No, I feel like. I ain't no duck at all. I ain't never met him talk to him. None of that. How you be feeling when you be seeing, like, the FBG butters and all the people gaining recognition and shit all these years later? Oh shit.

I feel like. Like, you see like more people in Chicago like hopping on the blogs, how the things and shit making a name. Any of your homies you ever thought like, hey, we should do some podcasts and shit, like the non-wrappers? Oh my God, the THHF podcast? Uh-uh. Yeah, I ain't a lot.

You know, it's crazy. Me and Zul was talking about some shit like that. We were talking about all the shit that was going on in the county. Just, you know. But no, though, me, we ain't really disgustingly. But as time progressed, though, we don't get into it. in a different type of way though. Like, so ya, I don't look down on that,

because some people would be looking down on like, I guess street dudes blogging or like, you know, giving their opinions on shit on the internet. Like, that ain't something that you look down upon. Like, like, I ain't gonna say I look down on it. I look down, I feel like, niggas be saying too much sometimes. Like, I feel like, you don't gotta say a lot of shit

niggas be seeing if that makes sense. Yeah. I feel like, man, that's, if you heard what I said, though, I see it. we'll do it in a different way. Like, see, like, wallow and gilly. Like, that's the way. You see what I'm saying?

Yeah. That's the way. Yeah, I mean, I feel like you need a non-affiliate to get in between y'all ask the tough questions because y'all are too gangster. Like, the dudes you hang out with, I feel like you're not going to get into the mixy shit that people want to hear you talk about.

But, yeah, shit. All right, what do you got planned? Do you got anything coming up we need to know about? Yeah, man. I'm putting the project together right there, I honestly trying to drop it by the end of the next month. I don't want to disclose the name just yet. But I got a project coming up.

I got some shit going on with some clothing lines, some little modeling shit going on. I got a clothing line dropping the end of April. And yeah, I'm dropping music, man. I'm back. I'm dropping here a couple of weeks. So the project coming down in winter? You ain't got a day yet?

No, I ain't got a concrete date. You ain't got a date or a name yet for the people? No, I got a name. I got a name. I don't want to see it, but I ain't got a date. That's why I want to see it because it can have been some months. But if everything ain't go right, I'm dropping like the end of the next month though. So to any of the kids that look up to y'all that's listening to this interview, send them

off with a message, man. To the kids that's looking at this interview, they stay in school, man. Be yourself, man. Always be yourself, man. Don't get too into what people. opinions is or what people think about you, man. That shit ain't gonna how you know what happy, man. You know, and do something with yourself, man.

Say your money, man. It's gonna say you. Fee. Fee. Fax. I respect it, man. Y'all don't know how we do this shit, man, this shit, for the four with the six and a bad, baby,

you know, and you know, that's the end of this shit, Joe. Feel you. Love. We appreciate you pulling up. You know that. I appreciate your story. Shout out my boy, Remo. Shout out, Ramo, man.

Come on, man. This is how you, this how you, this. You see what I'm saying? A good, nice respect for interviews. You know what I'm saying? I f*** with Adam. I f***ing for Ramos. I thought.

See, everybody was saying, y'all was, you know what I'm there? See? That's why you got to come meet people yourself, though. Nice. Thanks with y'all. Well, no genre. Coolest podcast in the world. Like, comment, and subscribe.

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