No Jumper - Timothy DeLaGhetto on being jealous of JIN, Youtubing for 13 years, Leaving Wild 'N Out & More
Episode Date: August 25, 2019Timothy DeLaGhetto recently wrapped his 8th season as a starring cast member on MTV's hiphop improv comedy show Wild 'N Out. He has been busy traveling and eating his way around the country on his foo...d show Send Foodz and continues to crank out content both online and off. 2:27 Before married life 9:58 Youtubers taxes 11:18 Youtube beginnings 14:00 JIN and asian rappers clickbait 14:50 Adam's JIN story 15:26 Tim jealous of JIN 16:48 Asian representation 17:50 Inspired by Fresh Prince of Bel Air 19:02 Race representation/stereotypes on TV 20:55 First Youtube check while getting fire from his job 24:12 Food show 25:55 Can't grow a beard 26:54 Body type preference 29:13 Podcast sponsors 35:01 How to edit your podcast 36:03 When internet was wild! + Cat giving head 38:22 Trolling is political 39:47 Wild N Out, the hip hop SNL? 41:22 Azealia Banks Wild N Out 40:46 Tim leaving Wild N Out 48:31 Youtube content + fanbase 52:10 Tim's show "Send Foodz" on Thrillist 56:53 Tim's house broken into 59:26 Having kids? 1:14:19 First studio album --- FOLLOW OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST! https://spoti.fi/2vi9lsD CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/nojumper and iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/no-jumper/id1001659715?mt=2 and follow us on Social Media: http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm follow Adam22 as well: http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 and follow adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world.
And today, with little to know, what do you call it?
What do you call it when you like introduce somebody?
Fanfare?
No, but I don't want to say no fanfare because that makes it sound like I'm shitting on you.
No introduction needed.
No introduction needed.
That's what I should have said.
That's not insulting.
Nah, no, that feels good.
I might need a little introduction, though.
Nah, you might need a little introduction, but we'll get to that.
Timothy Daylor, how are you doing?
What's up, dog?
I'm chilling.
What's up?
I apologize for the fact that it's fucking dripping in here.
You know what?
I'm okay. I feel all right.
So you feel that way you can take the heat well?
Yeah, I got like a high pain tolerance.
I mean, not pain.
I got pain tolerance too, but I got a high heat tolerance.
You know, I feel like since I started living with my chick, my wife this past year, like she used to be really cold all the time.
Really?
And so the longer I lived with her, I feel like I've kind of just adjusted to her heat, you know?
Interesting.
Well, I mean, I think that's interesting because I've actually heard the AC is second.
Sexist. People say this. This is a real argument that people make because they're saying that men and women of different body temperatures. Obviously the average man is bigger, so it's more, gets more tired, has a higher body temperature. So they, then men want the AC to be relatively low in comparison to women, but then women are out here freezing to death because their, like, society tells them that they need to wear skirts, that they need to.
That makes sense, actually. You know, it is kind of sexist. It's because when they're out, they got to be in the thin ass leggings and the tiny ass skirts and the little bitty clothes. They got to be naked all the things.
time, so they need like a cold tolerance. Yeah, that makes sense. And their body temperature
is lower anyway because they weigh less than men on average. So AC really is kind of sexist.
Isn't that crazy? Huh. What temperature is in your home? You're going to go home tonight. What's the
temperature going to be? When I go home, it's going to be a nice little like 72.
72 is good. No, you know what? It might even be upwards of like 75. I'm not going to lie.
Once I start to get a little uncomfortable, then I might sneak it down to 72, but yeah.
I mean, there's people walking around here, keeping them.
the house at 69 and that to me is just
69 is too low for me
yeah yeah yeah definitely um I mean
maybe when I was on my bachelor shit I could
tolerate some 69 degrees but uh but now that I've you know
experienced just you know
um uh wife life life I'm out a 73 average
let me ask you this you seem like you're sort of self censoring
yourself on the podcast to a certain extent
I was listening to you talk and I felt like whenever you were talking about some
grimy sexual shit that you did back in the day that it's
sort of seem like you were kind of thinking like, uh, baby, this didn't happen last week. Oh, you're talking
on my podcast. Oh, yeah. No, you know what the thing? The thing about it is that's not for her. That is for all the
dumb ass kids in the comments. Who are going to try to make it into a thing. Yeah, because she knows all my
reckless shit happened in this crazy little year when I was doing my thing. It was like a year and a half.
But what were you doing for the rest of your life? Were you in a monastery? Well, the thing about it was when I was like, before I really, really like,
started like fucking fucking I was like kind of inexperienced you know I'm saying I was in
college kind of dabbling here and there in in the fucking life right and then I got into like a
pretty substantial relationship for like four years and then and then that ended and I had like that
was and then that was the year where not only was like I was like okay I've done some fucking so I kind
of know what I'm doing but also like I was on tour and my YouTube I feel my YouTube shit was
kind of like really, really popping. And I was in a different city like every week. So I was,
not only was I, um, openly single, but I was kind of down to just, uh, you were getting clout
top. Yeah, lots of it. That's interesting. That's a strange period in a man's life for the first
time when they're able to get sex from just who they are, from their work. Yeah, dude. It was almost,
uh, it was, it was pretty, it was pretty like gross, how easy it was, you know what I'm saying?
And that was like that year of my life and then, uh, and then, uh, and then, uh, I mean, uh,
met my chick and then, you know, now I'm married.
But do you feel like there's any sort of ethical qualms about sleeping with a fan?
I mean, look, the more the conversation goes now where, like, people want to discuss,
like, power dynamics and that kind of playing a part in, you know, you kind of, like, it could
be, you know, manipulative if you wanted it to be, I think.
But, you know, when I was doing it, it was just, I felt like it was all everyone under, everyone was
grown, first of all.
See, that's the most important part.
And you get that because of the world that you're in,
it's not as much of a problem.
Because, like, if you're going to be going to a comedy club,
you pretty much have to be an adult.
Whereas with a lot of the YouTubers and shit,
it's like, everybody knows that their fan base is hell of young.
And even if they are, like, you know, 18, 19, 20, or whatever,
it's like sometimes, you know, some people develop slower.
So you might, some of these YouTubers might be kind of messing with people
that maybe are not all there, even if they are old enough.
Well, YouTube fans are already kind of weird right off the bat, you feel
me?
Those comments, you ever read those comments?
Comments?
Motherfuckers are weird.
By the way, like comment and subscribe.
Yeah, thanks.
Please subscribe to my shit too.
Oh yes, that.
He has more, way more than no jumper.
I just, the thing about it was I wasn't, I wasn't doing comedy tours.
I was touring on some, on some rap shit.
Oh, that too, okay.
Rap shit and like, and I was, and some funny shit here and there, but, um, so it was kind
of that scary YouTube world where, you know, these were like all ages shows sometimes.
So, um, it was crazy how reckless some of these youngians would talk, you know?
Really?
Yeah, so I would always make sure, like, from the jump, be like, hey, guys, you know, like, we, I mean, me and the homies definitely had some, like, hey, show me your ID situations before anything went down because we were not trying to get into that at all, you know?
No, totally.
But the weird thing to me about going to rap shows, especially as, like, an adult where this is part of my job now, is how many people are just on crazy drugs in the middle of the week.
And you're sort of, like, you know, just standing there and, like, somebody wanted to take a photo with you, and then their eyes are rolling into.
to the back of their head and they just are obviously on Zanz or Molly or whatever.
And it's kind of like, wow.
Like that would have been me when I was younger.
Like, you know, when I used to think that every time I went to a rap show was like a reason to celebrate.
Right, right.
Nah, not me, bro.
I never fucked with it.
No.
Yeah.
Never got messed up.
Nah, not like that.
You know, I mean, I was a pretty heavy, I mean, I still drink a lot when I'm, when I'm in that mood.
You know what I was never really a pop shit, drop shit type dude, though.
You missed out on that?
Hold of you.
I am upward.
I'm like mid-30s.
No, no, I'm like, I'm 33.
Well, you still younger than me.
But you didn't, I mean, that's kind of the crazy thing now.
I feel like for young kids now, it's like they know so much about drugs at such a young age.
Yeah.
And that's terrifying.
Well, you know, here's what messed me up is like when I was really even starting to go out.
And that's when like everybody was just like on XT, XT was really popping.
And then I saw a dude at a club all of a sudden just start like seizureing in the middle of the club.
And he was foaming at the mouth and shit.
I was like, I'm good.
I'm good.
I'm going to stick to this drink.
That's enough for me, you know.
This is a weird drink because it basically turns you into the biggest weirdo, pervert,
just strange, creepy person.
And like the lip biting and the sweating and shit.
I was like, I'm cool.
And let's be real.
It feels great.
But if you're around people that are going to be even slightly judgmental about how you're acting,
like myself, I can never imagine doing a drug like that in public.
Right.
Because I just don't want to be judged
of the way that I'm going to be judged
by all these people.
Yeah, yeah.
And I just, you know, in my head, I felt like,
you know, I feel like a lot of people, you know,
when they are at the club and they feel like they need to, like,
pop some shit or whatever,
they feel like they need to let loose
or they need something to get them there.
Like, I'm cool.
Like, I don't really need something
to get me to, like, dance mode, you feel what I'm?
Like, I'm already kind of having a good time.
Like, I'm good.
That is a lot of people's problem, though.
Do you have memories of going to the club
when you were young or the bar or whatever
and just feeling so anxious?
and so just uncomfortable in your own skin being in this sort of social environment,
because I got a lot of memories like that.
Word?
I mean, not really, bro.
I mean, for me, I mean, maybe uncomfortable back in the, you know, like, when you first
started going to the club and you're kind of like, and the goal is like, man, I just really
want to, like, grind on a female tonight, you know what I'm saying?
Even that.
Not fucking.
Just to grind in a little bit.
Like, early days, it's like, oh, man, the struggle of, like, looking around and
trying to find somebody who possibly might be down a grind, you know what I'm saying?
And I remember just being in the club and.
feeling like mad, uncomfortable when you're just in the mix of everything. Like it's fun,
but at the same time, you know, every everything is like, am I about to possibly embarrass myself
and try and grind on this girl right now? And then if you're not there, you got to like look all
stupid, pretend to text and shit like that, you know what I'm saying? But I assume at your point
in this, at this point in your life, you've been through the, there's two very different
experiences going to the club. There's going to a club where you have a table and everything is
set aside and everything and that can be kind of fun but you know it's also kind of isolated like
you know the more famous people that you're with or whatever the more that it's like impossible for
normal people to get in right that's kind of a different vibe but then if you go to the club as just
a normal patron you're just out there on the dance floor you got nowhere to sit down it's kind
of just all out warfare back in the day right i i used to look at the tables and be like you'll never
see me spending no 500 000 to sit at the table by myself but now bro especially after like
doing all the after parties and like you know where you're at the club and you're not paying for
tables and you're kind of in that area enjoying your time with the homies drinking and you can select
who gets to come and come up here and drink with me then it's kind of like now i'm at the club i'm
like you're never going to see me down there with the with the commoners you feel but i also feel
like i'm in a weird position because i don't fucking fly i will kill you i shall seize you today um
i feel like because i never well have i paid for a table yeah i think one year my girl's
birthed at a couple Gs for a table.
Didn't really feel like it was
something I ever wanted to do again after that.
Well, you know what, Doc? You know what I started doing is you can
write it off as a tax write off?
If your tax dude wants to do
that, you know what I'm saying? Because you can technically be like
I'm
treating my
employees or my people's
to like a little celebration.
So this is like, this is all tax
purposes. And me kind of like technically
since I vlog a lot of shit, I can
write off a lot of like, hey, this is an
I'm outing. I'm documenting it. Technically it's for work. I can kind of help this. You know, this can kind of help my taxes.
I mean, as a YouTuber in general, I mean, everything you do is technically a tax write off, which is nice.
Yeah. I mean, as long as you, you know, as long as you got somebody doing your numbers right, you know, because you can't, you, it walks a fine line.
Right. Have you had tax issues in the past?
I never had tax issues in the past, but when I really first started making money, I wasn't incorporated yet.
And I was just kind of doing it as like, hey, this is just me, Tim. This is.
my money and I didn't realize how important it was as like someone making money working like you
know self-employed to be incorporated because it makes so much of a difference so that first year
where like the money was nice taxes were like horrible what did you first start making money doing
um the YouTube stuff yeah okay that was the first decent check you ever got from entertainment yeah yeah
yeah initially you know I'm saying when I was on you I mean I got on YouTube before there was any
money for anything 13 years right yeah yeah back in like 2006 which is super early I
think I remember first going on YouTube and maybe 2004 right right maybe
men when it was just like you could still find porn and shit on YouTube you know
I'm saying it was kind of random you could upload whatever new episode of South Park
the entire thing's on YouTube five minutes later yeah that was great everything was on
there you know saying it wasn't regulated you could literally put any type of
shit on there you know I'm saying and then I think like 05 06 I
I randomly stumbled across it because I was
on MySpace and someone posted a bulletin that said, look at these white girls dancing
to Lafie taffy, ha ha ha. And I was like, okay, let me click this bulletin and see what this is about.
And then I was like, okay, that's funny or whatever, but I'd never seen a website where
you can upload any random-ass video and they would give you a link to embed onto your MySpace
or whatever, you know what I'm saying? So I was like, oh, this is a new thing about it.
Yeah, yeah. So I was like, this is dope.
You know the other big thing about it too was that it auto played.
Did it? You went to YouTube and it was playing automatically. And at the time, all of the
the sites that would usually have video would be like quick time players and show they
oh that's right that's right they wouldn't auto play and that i think was a huge difference because
it's sort of like anytime you click that link it's like you're already in that youtube yeah you people
are so lazy to just go click another or wait to force some other shit to load up you know so i was
like this is cool this is new let me try and use it to possibly get my face out there so i just started
making little stupid videos that was really what went through your head is you're like this is a
good opportunity for me to start building my career off this because that did not occur to me for
many years. Oh, where? I think 2012 was when I really started to realize like, oh, social media
is what it is to be famous now. And if you want to be a bigger name, then you have to be
big on social media now. Well, that's the thing about it. That wasn't my mindset is, um, it wasn't
trying to be big on social media. It was just to hopefully maybe I would use this to get my face
out there. And that would lead to something else in traditional media, you know, because I was still,
like, I had an agent. I was doing extra work that bullshit. And I was like just trying to get my
put in there because me and the homies were doing little short films but we didn't really we were just submitting to like submitting them to random
contests and stuff like that right and youtube was the first website that i was like oh okay we can use this to share our shit you know
yeah and uh and then it just kind of became a thing but i wasn't making money for the first few years because it really wasn't a way to make
they didn't have any money going on at the beginning right yeah so i was just you know foot locker employee
california pizza kitchen server yeah until they started monetizing and then eventually um i got to a point where
It was like, oh, like, this is kind of sustainable.
But what was your content at first?
And were people just drawn to it right away?
In the beginning, it was me freestyling.
And it was me doing silly just like lip sync videos, just dumb shit.
You know, and then like, then I got to use my little parents camcorder,
started making a little really cheap skits, you know, with the homies.
I think I started tagging all my freestyle videos as like Gen 106 in Park,
freestyle Friday.
So any little kids searching that up looking for an Asian rapper,
would come across my face.
Was Jin's hot at this time?
I'm trying to think of when gin was hot exactly.
He wasn't necessarily popping, but this was also the first, you know, YouTube was really
the first one where you could look up anything online on the video search engine and a video
would pop up, you know what I'm saying?
So I figured, let's hope people are searching for old gin freestyle.
They come across my shit and potentially become fans, you know?
Yeah.
I feel like I didn't really realize how important Jin was to Asian people in general, but then
I was in Shanghai.
in maybe 2011, and I just casually, like, jokingly mentioned Jin,
and the fucking Chinese dudes that we were aware of,
they were like, gin is very good man.
Bro, Jin is like Will Smith in China, bro.
He is, huh?
Yeah, he's like Jay Leno out there.
It's crazy.
Yeah, they had so much respect to him,
and it seems so foreign to them that I had just mentioned his name
in, like, a joking context, and they were, like, genuinely, like, kind of concerned.
Like, oh, no, no, you're not trying to clown Jin, aren't?
No, no, no, no, no, not like that.
Well, when Jen first dropped, I was kind of mad because, well, I was in junior high, like, freshman in high school probably just trying to, like, you know, beginning to write raps and be a rapper and stuff.
And then somebody, my boy hit me up and he was like, yo, 106 in Park, there's an Asian dude rapping.
He looks just like you.
And I was like, man, shut the fuck.
And he's probably just, you know, they'd say we look like because we're Asian or whatever, right?
So I turn on BET.
I turn on 160 Park.
I'm like, this dude really looks like me.
You know what I'm saying?
Because, like, back then we used to dress the same with the fitted caps and the, like, the oversized hoodies and stuff.
and we genuinely kind of look similar.
And I remember walking around Not Scary Farm when Jen was popping.
And these like flock of girls were following me because they thought I was Jen.
And they were like, ain't you that boy for 106 in Park?
And I was like, yeah, rough rider, hollafront, blah, blah, blah.
And just trying to.
That's the ultimate dream is to get some pussy from being someone you're not.
Right, you know how many.
Just keep it going all night.
So mad people, mad Asian dudes have me as their like Tinder picture and shit.
And if it's not my face, it's pictures with me that they've taken.
Wow.
Like literally a girl that I know two days ago or like last week was like,
yo, why is everybody in my area, their Tinder profiles, a picture with you?
Wow, I've had that happen a couple times, but I don't feel like it's like a real epidemic.
But a few people hit me up.
It's like, look at this guy.
Why is this Tinder photo with you?
I'm like, I don't know.
Well, you know, it's not a lot of Asian dudes doing it for Asian people, you know what I'm saying?
But is that feeling you've had for a long time or is that a newish feeling that Asian representation is important?
and lacking.
That is pretty much the reason why I've started doing entertainment stuff.
Really?
I mean, not the only reason.
I just liked being on stage.
I like performing.
I was always doing like...
Yeah, can you just be a selfish bastard wants to make some money?
I mean, it's definitely a lot of that too, you know?
And definitely for my ego as well and just because I want to be popping, right?
Who wouldn't?
Yeah, of course.
But also...
A nice house?
Yeah.
You know, it has its perks, right?
Yeah.
But, like, for sure...
Perks.
Perks being one of the perks, yeah.
Perks.
Just go crazy and buy a lot of perks to it, yeah.
Yeah.
I was like,
You talking about perks and recreation?
Perks and recreation.
That's my new show.
That's my mixtape, actually.
Perks, hey, that's kind of lit.
That's actually like a really, like if a little pump was coming out right now and I was his manager,
I would tell him that that's the best mixtape idea I heard in a while.
Dad, that's got a poppin.
Perks and a rec.
Okay.
Somebody, somebody used that.
What are we talking about?
We're talking about Asian representation.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Specifically, because my stage name De La Ghetto comes from.
from an episode of the Fresh Prince,
like an old episode of The Fresh Prince.
I didn't know that.
She knows how sad.
Because I felt like, you know,
the Fresh Prince was just a big influence
to me growing up.
Like, I felt like he, like,
kind of raised me, you know what I mean?
So there was an episode specifically
where Carlton, like,
his tuxedo shrunk,
so he needed like a last minute tux to go to prom.
So we had to get like this really tacky,
baby blue, like with the fritle,
with the lapel shit, you know what I'm saying?
And he ran to a little,
a group of nerds.
And the nerds were like,
Hey Carlton, nice tugs, right?
But one of them specifically that said that line was this nerdy Asian dude.
And I remember thinking, oh shit, I've never seen an Asian dude on Fresh Friends, my favorite show up until this point.
And I remember thinking, even as like a young and like, wow, this is how America kind of sees Asian dudes.
You know, like, that's how they see my people, right?
And I was like, I'm not like this.
And my friends aren't like this.
And I was like, let me get out there, show my face, show people that, you know, there's different types of Asian guys.
we're not all these nerdy orange tuxedo wearing kung fu dudes you know what I'm saying and I was like
let me let me represent a little bit yeah you know it's kind of tricky in that regard because okay
let me ask you how you feel about the taking it outside of your situation a little bit but like
think about Apu on the Simpsons right they removed that motherfucker from the Simpsons because he was
you know an Indian stereotype the truth is though look there's a lot of Indian dudes you met in your
life that kind of remind you a poo a little bit and so it feels kind of weird that just because
that is a stereotype it's like we have a lot of it's like we have a lot of you guys
have to remove this beloved character from this beloved TV show after 30 years. Now, granted,
I haven't watched The Simpsons in about two decades. Right. Same. So I'm not really too invested in this.
But, I mean, I just, you know, say there was a Chinese shop owner on The Simpsons. Would you,
would you feel a similar way? I think, um, I, like, I don't mind the accent as long as I feel like,
um, the accent is, uh, is, is not like a super stereotype. You feel me? Like, yeah, some people
have stereotypes like, like, like, dude from, uh, King of the Hill, you know what I'm saying? I think that family is,
Oh, the Loatians.
Yeah, the Loatians.
There's a family, and they have an accent, and it's like a legitimate accent.
You know what I'm saying?
It's not like a stereotypical, like, oh, Harrow fucking like that shit, you know?
I think like the biggest thing might be just is the entirety of the character just mocking the cultural traditions of the people that this character is supposed to represent.
That's the main thing.
Because if there's a human aspect to it.
Right.
Then, okay, cool.
Like you're sort of using the stereotype just to get this character off the ground to make them relatable to people.
or something like that.
But if all you ever see is Asian people represented as whatever,
kung fu shit, nerds, whatever, I mean, that I could definitely see how it's problematic.
Yeah, you know, and I mean, look, I understand the frustrations with Apu too, you know what I'm saying?
Because it's like, you know, I feel like there's Indian dudes for their whole life.
They've been hearing thank you come again, you know, and that's because of that character.
And it doesn't help that he's probably like the only really recognizable Indian character on TV,
aside from a big bank dairy dude now so you know that's interesting okay so you start getting paid from
youtube around what point and what do you remember your first check um well the first check uh you know
youtube they'll send you your first check as soon as you make more than like a hundred bucks
right i'm saying um and then but i remember the the first check that made me realize i could i could
live off of this um it was the same week i got fired from california pizza kitchen for
tweeting about the uh uniforms being ugly oh how you know about that wikipa
Oh, where?
Which I hate, I hate getting questions from Wikipedia because it's like the most basic-ass place to find that.
But I did notice that on there.
Yeah, yeah.
What happened was, I was just young, being dumb, and Twitter wasn't as popping back then.
You thought you could get away with some video.
Yeah, I was just being stupid.
I was literally bored at work.
And someone was like, yo, they're switching the uniforms to black button-ups.
And I liked the white button up with the red tie.
I thought it was a good look.
And so I tweeted their Twitter and I was like, yo, at California Pizza Kitchen, black buttonups are the lamest shit ever.
you know what I'm saying, thinking just being stupid.
And then someone DM me.
And they were like, thank you for your opinion on our new uniforms.
What story do you work at?
And I was like, oh, shit.
I was like, never mind.
You deleted your whole Twitter?
No, I deleted my tweet, all right?
And I was off it.
And the thing about it was my Twitter didn't have any information about me except for I had a link to my YouTube.
And my YouTube said I was from Long Beach.
So they, someone from CPK called the GM of all the Long Beach, California Pizza Kitchens.
And they were like, do you?
know this kid and she was like yeah that's tim and they're like you got to fire them because of that
that tweet and they found another tweet where i said time to go to work at california skeet
kitchen that that was on the on the paper for this is why tim is getting fired bro wow that honestly
sounds a lot more valid than the uniform part i'm glad they didn't find the tweets where i'm like yo
i love being in the freezer stealing pepperonies and shit you know i love jerking off in the bathroom
god this is a great job dude that sounds crazy how many did you have like a lot of
of followers at that point? Was there any reason for them to really be paying attention?
It was, um, it wasn't crazy. I'm starting to go a lot now. Uh, it was a, talking to do that.
It was, uh, it wasn't crazy, but it was a, it was a decent following.
Enough that it was like, it was like, this isn't just some random guy. Because it's like,
if you got 13 followers and you talk your shit about your job, I guess, who cares? Well, that was the thing, too.
This is what they listed was the reason I got fired because, um, I guess in the, in the handbook
that you signed, you're, you're not allowed to publicly talk shit about the company, you know? And, um, but
then people had been tagging me in articles for years after that because my specific story
was listed in some some different article that said had this happened today, it would have
fallen under free speech and they wouldn't have been able to fire me?
See, that's what I was thinking.
I'm like, is there some legal defense that you'd be able to have in this day and it?
Yeah, so apparently there is now, but back when they fired me, it was okay.
Do you hold any sort of animosity towards CBK?
No.
Would you refuse a brand deal right now from CBK?
Oh, no, bro.
I eat there all the time.
I love CBK.
Really?
Yeah.
That's up.
Yeah, yeah.
They got this new ribodespire.
Yeah, you know, you'd be surprised at how good that steak is at CBK.
Right.
But anyway.
I'm kind of new to California.
So for me, it's still sort of a new thrill.
Oh, I mean.
I mean, I mean, they got good food, dog.
It's a good menu.
I mean, I have been here like 10 years.
So I guess I can't say I'm that new.
Yeah, I was like, wait, no, no, you've been here.
Not that new.
But I've only had a few times over the years.
I think it's good, though.
It's quality.
They got this cauliflower crust.
It's popping, too.
I like it better than the regular crust.
Really?
Yeah. Are you being on diet and exercise?
Kind of now.
Just because my main shit I do now is like I have this food show that I do.
So when I'm not shooting the food show, I'm trying to eat clean and...
To prepare for the food show because you're going to be stuffing so many calories.
Yeah, yeah.
Because we're shooting it like it was every other week and now we're knocking them out like every week.
So and it's just us going to...
Me and my boy, David So we go into food festivals and just literally just like getting drunk and eating all the food and just talking shit.
So it's like it's a lot.
You know what I'm saying?
And I found that like cheese kind of breaks me out.
So I'm trying to lay off the cheese.
Really?
Yeah.
Interesting.
And I'm getting older.
You know, metabolism slowing down.
Totally.
Yeah.
I've been on the most restrictive diet for the past couple of weeks because I'm trying
to get ready for this photo shoot.
It is just, I've been eating meal prep every day and exercising every day.
And holy shit, it's crazy to actually be like 100% in.
It's the worst.
I love it.
Honestly, I'm having a great time.
But it's like I'm also a person that is kind of like neurotic.
Like I like to.
do things to the extreme like I'm more comfortable being on an extreme diet than I would be on
being like a halfway diet I feel like so you're one of those like once you're in you're a hundred
percent in it it's easier for me to be a hundred percent doing something than to be like halfway
doing it and and based on the last week of my life I feel like every time I've ever been dieting
previously I was basically not 100 percent yeah that's probably my issue too I just need to I just need
to commit to it bro it's a struggle man but you don't have a real reason to because you
you're like what? Like you could lose like five pounds, right? You're like not really.
Yeah, no, I'm, you know, I could drop like another seven and what happens? Because I got a,
I got a solid 40 on me, homie. I'm just trying to, because I'm okay right now. You know what I'm
skinny? But I got a like, I got a big ass head, you feel me? So as soon as I gain a little bit of
weight, it all goes to my like my jaw face region. Yeah. That's a great reason to have a beard
right there is because it kind of obscures all that. I wish, dog. This is, this is it. This is, I've been
growing this shit for three months.
That's some evolution right there.
I've hung out with Asian girls in my life who you go to rub their leg and they got no hair on their leg.
And then they said that they never shave.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh, holy shit.
That's incredible.
Dog, I barely grow armpit hair.
Look, this is unshaved right here.
This is unshaved, untweezed.
You got about four hairs hangling there.
Yeah, those just popped up.
What?
That's amazing.
Honestly, you're lucky as hell.
Yeah, I know.
I know that.
Yeah, especially because, you know, girls, I was like, oh, God, you're so smooth.
Right.
Or they were saying that.
Every girl I've ever hung out with my entire life, though, it's like, no, don't shave your chest.
They're like, no, I love your hairy legs.
I'm like, you realize if I don't shave my chest hair that it's going to be like a four-inch puff sticking out of my shirt?
My shirt is going to be floating out here.
Hey, hey, people like different shit, man.
Yeah, but they're lying.
The girls are always saying they're like dad bods.
I don't buy that shit either.
No, no.
There's actually girls out there that are turned off by buff dudes.
You know what I'm saying?
Maybe like four or five girls, yeah.
But I don't really.
I think that on average, if you've got a six-pack, like,
is going to be a lot easier.
That's the thing about it is girls will say like,
oh, they like the dad-bods until their dude starts getting the six-pack.
Then it's like, oh, okay.
And it shows how fucked up we are because guys are never like,
oh, I like a girl a little good.
That sounds so foreign.
I've always told, well, I don't necessarily like a six-pack on a girl.
No, that, yeah.
But that's also like, have you ever,
I don't know if I've ever been one of the girl that had a six-pack.
That's so rare.
Yeah, I just, I always, I let them know anybody that I've dealt with in the past.
I'm like, I like you soft.
You feel me?
Like, do you think.
Like, you don't feel the need to get a six-pack with me.
Because, first of all, I'm not going to have one.
When I'm looking at the hot chicks in the gym and they're like, you know, like the workout
girls, like you're ever looking at Instagram and, you know, some girls, they're not
Instagram models, but they're like workout chicks.
Yeah, yeah.
That's all they talk about is, like, working out and they're all in the gym and everything.
I just always have assumed that those girls would want nothing to do with me because I'm just too
soft, not chiseled enough.
Yeah, I feel like it would just all be arguments all the time.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I don't, I don't care about what you're talking about.
You're not going to like me and what I want to do right now.
And you're just going to be frustrated with me.
You know what I'm saying?
I tell my chick all the time, because she got really heavy into the workout for a while.
And I was like, please, just don't let your booty get hard, man.
Like, don't let your booty get hard.
I like how it is right now.
I like the way it moves.
Yeah.
And I've, I've, uh, canoodled with asses in the past that, like, that don't move.
And like, I just, you know, I would prefer them to move, you know?
Yeah.
In the year 2019, I don't know.
And it's actually weird because my girls got big ass, fake tits, whatever.
But previously in my life, I mostly dated girls who were like pretty fucking skinny,
little A cup, B cup, whatever.
I don't know if I could go back.
Because once you get something to hold on to, it's a good time.
You're going to go back to the rib cage sticking out?
I don't know.
But hey, if that makes you happy, do your thing.
You know what I'm saying?
No, yeah, by all means.
It just seems a little, I don't know.
It's like I upgraded a little bit.
I'm sure some people would consider it not an upgrade.
Hey, man, you know, as long as they're happy.
You know, it's so funny.
What's up?
I wanted to listen to your most recent episode of your podcast,
where you were interviewing the Plus I was model girl or whatever.
And, you know, it's like, this is what I did.
I get ready for interviews.
I'll, like, sit around, listen to somebody else's podcast,
play Tetris on my fucking switch as you saw when you walked in here.
Yeah.
And just sort of like, you know, just think, think about them
and just sort of try to conjure up some questions or whatever.
And the one thing I wrote down,
and then I realized what you were doing,
I was talking by a little bit, but the thing that I wrote down was that the first thing you started talking about was just like, man, my ball's been itching and sticking and just my balls.
Like, you just started going in about this.
And I actually wrote down, I'm like, so do you on average, like, begin a podcast by just ranting about how sticky your balls are?
But then I realized, I'm like, oh, I've actually been inside of an advertisement for the past few minutes because it was like, you're, you got some deodorant or something.
That was a complete coincidence.
Really?
Yeah, no, I just felt like talking about.
balls. Wow, I thought for sure that you had to have been thinking, like, I'm going to sort of do
this ball sack joke and then tie it in. Now, what's funny is, so, you know, because as I, I began
talking about the balls, because just because it was, it was hot in the room, you feel
me? And I was just going to ask, like, yo, do you ever put deodor on your balls just because
I never have, you know what I'm saying? Like I said, I don't grow a lot of hair. I really don't
get too musty. It takes a lot for me to get musty, but I was just kind of asking the question,
just because we were on the air. Two weeks, no shower? Yeah. And, and, and, and, you're
And then my boy just coincidentally brought up the manscaping shit, which also was a, you know, just happened to be one of our podcast sponsors.
But that was all on accident.
That's incredible.
Yeah.
Worked out.
You know, it's always funny to me seeing people who are really good at integrating their sponsors into their podcasts in like really weird, natural ways.
Like they'll just, and they sort of just take you by surprise.
And because everybody as YouTubers and podcasters now are so like, you know, the YouTube money is just not that consistent anymore.
I don't know if you have to deal with that.
It's not great.
I do. Yeah, no, it's not.
It's a little rough.
But now everybody needs sponsors on their videos,
which is just kind of a weird thing.
It didn't used to be like that.
It used to be that you were kind of like a thirsty-ass YouTuber
if you felt they need to go out
and get all these brand deals and stuff.
I mean, kids are just silly, bro.
Like, they don't understand how shit works, you feel me?
Like, I remember back in the day when I first,
when ads first started popping up on my videos,
kids were like, yo, team, you sold out.
Can I believe you would do this, man?
I was like, are you guys serious, bro?
Like, do you not understand how this shit works?
Right.
And I think now more so than ever, they do understand how it works.
So it's like people aren't so afraid of embracing the sponsor life, you know what I'm saying?
Because like so many people have said like, hey, guys, I need this shit to survive.
You know what I'm saying?
So kids are understanding of that.
Like I remember compared to back in the day when they'd be like, oh, you're a sellout for whatever reason.
Now it's like they see me pushing out obvious brand deal, which I don't try to hide at all.
And they'll be like, yo, get that money.
That's the comments.
Even if they don't fuck with the product at all.
They'll be like, yo, get that money.
Yeah, respect what I'm doing here.
Leave me alone.
Just let me rock.
Come on.
Do you want to tap?
You want to fast forward a little bit?
Okay, fine.
Let's not talk about it.
Don't tell me.
Yeah, speaking of which today's podcast brought you by.
Absolutely nobody.
Nojumper.com.
But sometimes the shit isn't as, my ads aren't as, the transitions aren't very good
because they have me reading the ads after the fact so they can plug them in whenever.
So now I start the ads with
All right, speaking of coffee,
even though we weren't talking about coffee,
it's because they'd just be in there, you know what I'm saying?
And I think one episode specifically,
the conversation was real serious, you know what I'm saying?
Like it was getting deep.
Like, it was a nice, like deep conversation.
And all of a sudden it was like,
hey, do you need to freshen your balls up?
Make sure you something, something of manscape.
You know what I was saying?
And I was like, bro, I wrote the editor like,
come on, dog, can you at least, you know,
pick the moments a little better.
I actually didn't even tell my editor who's in the room.
right now. Shout out to Lou. I didn't even tell him
that he did this. But basically, like, on a
recent podcast, I did, I made
a joke where I said that porn stars
all have no souls. And then I
immediately dial it back and I'm like, okay,
I'm just kidding. It's not that I don't think they have souls.
And I explained, I wasn't kind of making
a weird point. I was like, it's not that I think they have no souls.
It's that a lot of the porn star girls that we know
basically treat themselves like they have
no souls and they like act like they can't have a boyfriend
or have kids or whatever. That was what I said,
but fucking Lou sticks the ad
right in the middle of it. So
that there's like you have to watch the whole ad before you then realize like oh he didn't
actually mean that and i told him i'm like yo find like a nice natural spot to put the ad it helps
maybe he hates me i don't know maybe they don't be they don't hey dog they got to edit so many of these
they don't be listening to you dog just pick a time where it gets a little quiet and plug them in
there yeah yeah yeah that is weird to think about your employees having to watch your podcast
like sometimes just think about that i'm like you're getting paid to be like a fake fan of mine
Not a fake fan.
I'm sure you think my podcast is fine.
But realistically, like, we might do 10 episodes in a week.
So it's kind of like super all over the place.
That's 10 hours they got to listen to, bro.
If you talk about some bullshit.
How clued in India really expect them to be?
Yeah, exactly.
Even when I have to, when I listen to the episodes before they drop, even like just an hour of my own, of myself,
I'd be like, oh, God, I got to listen to this shit.
You still do that?
You listen to every podcast you do?
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
Well, because I don't, we just kind of, like, when they go up, I listen to them,
the day right before you know what I'm saying so I just kind of sit down and just kind of have it
in the background see if there's just anything too reckless you feel me like is this going to get
anybody in trouble let me take that out you know that's that I realize that from listening to the
Joe button podcast I'm like at one point I realized holy shit these dudes are editing shit out
there's moments in here that they're editing out it made me feel kind of like I thought I was in
the room with you guys like you're really going to do that to me like the stuff you're editing out
is without question the most interesting shit.
Well, yeah.
But you know, when the conversation gets a little too comfortable, you kind of got to just,
you know, pay attention a little bit.
Give me an example of something you had to cut out because it got too real.
It doesn't have to include all the details.
I made a joke with the homies that were in the room that if it was all homies, then you understand
the context of it.
But like, but my boy, he was like, afterwards, he was like, yeah, you should probably take that out.
I was like, alright, fine.
Right.
Yeah.
No, yeah.
I remember one time I was just.
straight up about a friend of mine, I was just like,
remember when we fucking tag team that girl together, blah, blah,
and his girlfriend heard it, and holy shit,
I felt so guilty just knowing that I did that to him.
You definitely caused a fight.
Yeah, definitely.
Huge.
And it doesn't even make sense.
She didn't even know him when this happened.
But, I mean, I get it.
Like, you don't want to think about that.
She wasn't even mad about him tagging a girl.
She was just mad that it was with you.
She was like, fucking Adam, really?
You're gay with him?
That's not gay.
Yeah.
Let me answer to this.
that's not gay
that's just homie shit
yeah duh
let me ask you this
do you remember
because I was just watched
I was deep on an internet
wormhole last night
I watched and stuff about
you remember when there was
like gross out links
online and that was the kind of the thing
was to send somebody a link to like
meat spin
oh god meat spin
goatsy
goatzy was a big one
do you remember goatsie
I don't think I was familiar with goats
goatzy is the man bent over
with his asshole spread like this
looks like a coffee can
was just in there
he's holding it so
wide open. I was never on Goatty. MeatSpin. I got sent a couple of times. Cake farts. You
familiar with cake farts? Lemon party was the three old guys fucking each other. Lemon party. Yes, I'm
familiar with lemon party. They were in the shower or some shit, right? I think there was like,
Blink1e2.com was some kind of disgusting porn as well for a period of time, although I would kind
be willing to guess that they got that URL at some point. I remember as a little last kid, if you
went to Whitehouse.com, it was porn. Really? Yeah. And remember the homies would be like,
yo, you ever go to Whitehouse.com? And you're like, why? You go to White House? I'm literally like just
naked women would pop up. That's so fucking funny to think that the internet, there was a time when the
internet was so untamed that the White House didn't really fully have their shit together.
Isn't that crazy? The internet was so new. No, no other thing. It was probably just something like,
whatever, who cares? You think about all the shit that you've seen online during your, during your
life? Like, I still have this image burned into my fucking mind of this guy just getting head from a cat
because I was just, I'm scrolling down this message board and some, they had like swarm this message
board and just sort of posted as much bad shit as they could.
Yeah.
And I just like saw this cat.
Ugh.
Oh.
And I love, I'm a huge cat guy.
Huge.
Like, I worship my cat.
My cat is so important to me.
Yeah.
So then you tried it out.
No.
Yeah, yeah.
But I mean, it just, it just didn't feel like it was going to fit.
Wait, like, he was full out.
Wait, how?
Well, it was just licking his dick.
I don't know.
He put like some cat nip on his dick and it was just getting it lit.
It wasn't like full on.
This cat looked like it probably wasn't going to be.
the same after this.
We're talking about like fully in there.
I only saw for a second and chances are that it might be worse in my mind right now
than it actually was because your brain kind of like develops it and yeah.
But I mean that was a horrible experience.
What was the website?
They just rated some form I was on it.
You know, this was like 15 years ago and still kind of just floating around my brain.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And now that's all.
Yeah.
Because you know, I was reading about that too, how trolling and hacking and you know just
sort of like raising hell online.
it used to just really be done
to fuck with people
but now it's almost always political
Is that what it is?
You know there's always like
If they're going to raid some website
It's going to go or if they're going to fuck up some community online
It's going to be a community that they sort of oppose ideologically
Right. Oh like the anonymous shit
You know and stuff like that's actually the thing
That's what changed anonymous
Anonymous used to just be all about trolling and hacking and stuff
And then the Church of Scientology
They did their whole thing against them
And then all of a sudden shit changed where it's like
Oh we should use our powers to actually like
change society
And if you look at the Church of Scientology, they were hugely wounded by the, basically, the protests and all the commotion that, uh, the, that anonymous cause as well, South Park. That was the other big thing. Oh, yeah, South Park. That's right. They did that episode and that actually kind of really kind of helped. Because now, uh, Scientology is like an all-time low.
Are they? Yeah.
Damn. Do you have you been?
I have not been, but I read enough about it that I know that it's not too, not too cool to be into.
That's crazy. I'm not, I'm not, you know, it's not even talk about them, but I don't want that. I don't want to trouble, dog.
I mean, you've been in Hollywood for a long.
on time. Chances are they probably have came to your house and tried to convince you to join, right?
Yeah, maybe. As soon as anyone rings the door, they could have been church to Scientology,
could have been Mormons, I don't know, as soon as the doorbell rings, you know, I'm turning lights off,
I'm hiding, turn the TV off, I'm behind the couch, you know.
Yeah, leave me in the fuck alone. Yeah. Any religious person, if they come to my house, I will shoot them.
Okay, let me ask you this. Being on while and out is kind of like, is, I haven't been on
SNL, but is it kind of like the hip-hop, SNL for this generation?
I describe it to older people that don't know about it, like because I haven't heard of it as a hip hop whose line is it anyway?
You feel me?
Interesting.
Because SNL is more sketchy and while and out is more improv.
But you're telling me that in those freestyles that you don't have like a writing room that's coming up with all these punchlines in the back beforehand?
There's no writing rooms.
I'll tell people like this, all right?
There's no scripts or anything like that.
But the day before, they'll tell you this person's on your team, this person's on the opposite.
team, these are the games we're playing.
And we only play maybe like,
like every episode we play three games, right?
And it's really just a circle of like five to seven different games.
So, of course, you know, after doing the shit so many times,
you have stuff that's in your head.
Or like, when you know someone else is going to be on the opposite team,
you might be like, like, let's say you were going to be on the opposite team tomorrow.
I'd be like, okay, cool, he's tatted up.
I can say something about his tats.
I can say something about his beard, blah, blah, blah.
And, you know, some people come with written.
Some people don't.
I've definitely had people like right before we shoot that last little segment where we battle each other.
Someone will come up to be like, hey, oh, Tim, just, you know, I got bars for you.
Or, yo, I'm coming after you.
So, immediately I'm like, okay, look them up and down.
Where are they wearing?
You ever get offended?
Never.
Never.
Never.
Never.
Never.
Never.
That's, I mean, that's the show.
You know what I'm saying?
We make jokes.
Of course, I'm going to get some Asian jokes.
The fat dude is going to get fat jokes.
It's like this kind of, you know, you kind of do.
That's the show.
Were you still around when Azelia Banks came on?
I was on that episode.
Was that insanely weird?
That was a ridiculous thing to watch.
That might be the most awkward thing I've ever been a part of my entire life, bro.
Like, as soon as it started happening, when she started tripping about whatever she was tripping about, which she was completely tripping about.
I remember, I was on stage, and everyone was like, what is she talking about?
You know what I'm saying?
And then they ended up having to, what you didn't see is like they stopped production for like a whole hour to calm her down.
And so we
So it's like they took her in the back
To just kind of make sure she was okay
Like to convince her to keep on playing the games
And I just remember standing around
And like I sat with some audience members
Like like, yeah
This is awkward
Everyone's like yeah
You know
Because it was so uncomfortable
Like it would kind of just suck the whole energy
Out of the room
Yeah
Because it's like if you're gonna go in
And do that kind of thing
You have to go in there
With some thick skin
Otherwise what the fuck are you even doing there
Yeah
And I mean she says
She didn't know
What the show was about
before she went on and she says
I read that she thought it was a
Nickelodeon show she was about to come on. I don't
know, bro.
Was there any jokes about her
skin color? Was that what you got offended by?
She, okay, now, specifically
I remember DC,
Youngfly, made a joke
and you'll see a bunch of stuff explaining
this online or whatever from his side and whatever
side, but he, we were on stage
and he made a joke saying,
um,
um,
calling her ugly, basically, right?
But the specific game is you're saying, this person is so petty because, right?
So it's like, oh, Nick Cannon is so petty.
The honest goes, how petty is he?
And it'll be like, oh, Nick is so petty.
He took the kids to blah, blah, blah, when Mariah wanted to take him somewhere else.
Some shit like that, right?
Some bullshit like that.
So DC goes, Nick Cannon is so petty.
He couldn't get Cardi B on the show, so he got Joe ugly ass.
So that was the joke.
called her ugly.
That's a good joke.
So she turns around and while everyone's laughing and she's like, wow, that's really colorist, though.
This is like the definition of the kind of person you don't want to have at your party.
And I was just kind of, I remember feeling like, oh, no.
Immediately I was like, oh.
You can't be ugly.
You have to be, like, ugly in a racist way.
I think, I guess the way it was trying to get spun was that since Cardi v.
Light Scan and she's dark that that was, that was, she's ugly because of that.
But that wasn't the joke at all.
Like, no one took it that way.
So I want to say, I think she's hot.
You ever see her boobs?
Azealia Banks?
This is a nice boo.
No, yeah, I've seen online, yeah.
Okay.
And I also agree.
She's attractive, right?
I don't think you bad looking at all, but it's like in the context of a hip-hop roast comedy show.
Everybody's ugly when you're on stage.
Everybody's ugly.
Everybody's fat, short, whatever, anything, any exaggeration.
Like, oh, you, oh, you 5, 7?
You're a midget.
Let's talk about it.
Literally.
Like, no one is attractive on that stage.
So as soon as I heard her saying those, that she thought it was color, I was like,
oh, shit, it's about to be some shit.
You know what I'm saying?
And immediately.
It was kind of like just the whole energy was off.
I mean, she still, she came back and she was still down and participate.
But, you know, at that point, it was just kind of like, okay, make sure she feels comfortable.
Right.
You know, it was definitely awkward.
If you watched the episode.
I could actually watch that.
I don't know why I didn't think of that last night.
I remember the producers specifically being like they asked, like, because I, you know, I was cool with them.
So the producer was like, yo, it's funny because they were asking for more shots of Tim because my face was like, what's happening, man.
That's probably got to be the best.
You could be a meme so easy.
Whoa.
You know, was there anything even close to that in terms of awkwardness or just weird situations that would come up in the whole freestyle thing?
Nah.
I mean, for the most part, everything was always pretty chill.
You know, like we get up there, say our jokes, everybody would laugh, and there was never any hard feelings.
I remember specifically there was a new guy, right?
One of the newer comedians.
And whenever you're a new addition to the cast, they kind of give you a couple episodes to fill you out if they're iffy about you.
And he did a couple jokes that, um, that weren't popping, right?
And, um, I remember he, he was wearing, uh, one of Nick's incredible chains.
And then, um, and then something happened where he was like, he was, Nick said something.
Like, yeah, you, you better give me that chain back.
And he was like, he was like, take it some shit.
He was sassy with it, right?
The next day, he was, he was going.
Wow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, he, he did not have a good episode, said some sassy shit.
And then he, they sent him home.
So Nick Cannon is an angry god.
I, I think, you know, I think Nick knows.
if he's fucking with you or not, you feel me?
And it's like, and you have your chance to either prove yourself or, or get sent home, you know?
Last one on out question.
How the fuck is that show still in the air?
It's like the longest running TV show, right?
Brut.
On MTV for sure or something like that?
Well, I don't know.
I don't know about the longest one.
Well, you know, because it was on back in the day and then it had a little hiatus.
Yeah, so it was on way back.
And then it was on hiatus.
And then when I came on, it was with the reboot.
And I was on, I did my last season last year, but I was on for like a good, like,
six years, eight seasons.
Yeah.
And they just got renewed for like 300 more episodes or some shit like that.
Three hundred?
Yeah, bro.
Yeah, bro.
Shit.
I mean, every time we go to shoot a new season, we knock out a good, like, between 20 and
30 episodes.
Okay.
So, uh, so that's like enough, fuck, that's like another, like 10 seasons.
That's kind of incredible.
It's crazy.
Yeah.
Why'd you have to leave?
Do you just feel like you'd done all that you could possibly do there?
Um, it was, it was a little of that and a little of just them feeling the same way,
you know, because I had been telling the while and out group chat with the homies.
I was like, yo, I don't think.
This is my last season, guys, for like a few seasons.
I was like, ah, you know what?
I think I'm good.
I think I'm a retired, blah, blah, blah.
And they were all like, man, shut up.
You know, you're coming back, blah, blah, blah.
And I was like, all right, fine, I'll do one more.
But then I think after we did a season in Atlanta, and I was kind of feeling like, okay,
maybe I'll do one more than I'm good.
The producer was like, hey, you know what?
Maybe we go to a different direction this time.
And I was like, okay, that's cool.
You know, I was already kind of, I felt like I had already done what I could do on the show
because, you know, like, you can only make so many Asian jokes at me.
And, you know, I had, of course, I had, like, rebuttals on rebuttals for those.
But I feel like because of that, they weren't coming after me anymore.
You know what I'm saying?
It was way easier to wait for the basic Asian joke and then hit them back with the fire rebuttal.
And that would be easy.
When I would have to start calling people out and then, you know, it just, it wasn't, it wouldn't hit as hard.
You feel what I feel like I kind of did my thing on the show.
And I was, I was comfortable with that.
being the end for me.
That's interesting.
Yeah, I mean, that's a weird transition to go from being somebody who's, like, built up
their shit on YouTube so much and then to go do the TV thing.
Was that sort of like a challenge?
Because, you know, it's, I've had so many people talk to me about doing TV shows,
and I've always been kind of tempted by the idea and everything.
The one thing that really keeps you from getting too into it is the fact that, like,
me and you are going to probably sit here and talk for an hour and a half, and it's going
to take an hour and a half.
You know, like, there's no bullshit.
No, I could just leave after.
There's no crazy production.
There's no sitting around on set all day
Yeah
Weird to get used to
I mean
Definitely
I feel like I understand why it would be weird
For other YouTubers
But you know
Like I was always doing more scripted content on YouTube
So I would shoot like for a whole last day
For a five minute video
You know what I was kind of used to that life
So it was like I wasn't a crazy transition for me
And I had done a lot of stuff like on stage
And I did theater and all that shit right
So
That wasn't weird for me
But I don't
definitely, you know, now that I feel like traditional companies are moving into digital,
I've been on shit where it's like, why are we shooting for a whole day with multiple cameras
when it's literally just a basic-ass video, when they're trying to do what the digital
shit looks like.
Because that's what they've always known.
Right.
But then meanwhile, it's like, no, you realize that YouTubers make these videos in their room
with a fucking camera and it's like going to look almost as good as this.
It's like, it's cool to like use the high-end equipment and everything, but it's like,
Don't let that be your excuse to make this into an all-day thing when you don't need it to be.
It's just not necessary.
Yeah.
Yeah, man.
It's weird.
I remember I was on set with Harley from Epic Mealtime.
Yeah, yeah.
And we were shooting something.
I forget what it was for, but he was like, bro, this.
He was like, and it was his shit too, but he had like a budget behind it for he's working with some company.
He was like, yo, guys, we don't need, we don't need all this.
Like, it was like, there was like three different cameras and mad lights.
And it was literally just going to be like just some basic ass shit.
You know what I'm saying?
And when you're working with big production, you know, like you said, that's just what they're used to, right?
They can't do what we do, dog.
Yeah.
You know?
Epic Mealtime is such a weird cautionary tale about what it is to run a YouTube channel because they were like one of the first big independent YouTube channels.
They used to, you know, watch it and sort of talk about it.
And then it feels like people just kind of got burnt out on the concept because it's like when you make the channel not about you, but about a concept or an idea.
Yeah.
you kind of can only work within that framework.
It's sort of interesting.
Yeah, see, and that's interesting because, you know, like I said,
I've been on YouTube for 13 years, right?
And, like, my shit's not bringing in views on YouTube like it used to,
which is, you know, it's been 13 years.
I wouldn't expect it to, you feel me?
But I'm actually surprised by the consistent amount of people
that still tune in after 13 years,
especially when I've seen channels like Epic Mealtime
or people that have, like, a niche thing that they do
that was super popping because it was so consistent,
but then, you know, people only want to watch
something like that for so long, you feel me?
The prank stuff.
There's so many examples of it.
Yeah, and people would tell me back in the day,
like, yo, you know, your channel's too all over the place.
Like, if you pick something consistent,
people will be more willing to subscribe
because they know what they're subscribing to.
You know what I'm saying?
Because I was doing like sketches.
I was doing talking shit.
I was doing like music videos.
I was doing all types of stuff.
So my shit was all over the place.
But at the same time, I feel like,
because at the end of the day,
it's my personality
and, like, me doing these different things.
People are tuned into me
as opposed to, like, a specific show
where it's like, okay, I've seen this already.
You feel me?
It's kind of interesting because I feel like the value,
like you having all those subscribers,
it's kind of like, if you were to really hit the nail
on the head with like a new type of content,
I feel like those subscribers are still there.
Like, they might have sort of got kind of
tired of watching a lot of the stuff like over the years and I'm same thing with no jumper it's like
we've got three million subscribers we're not getting three million views on a video yeah but it kind
of feels like you do have that audience so if things were to sort of like you know if you were to
like completely and you always have that in your head like I can completely sort of reboot my content
and go in a different direction and I feel like people would be 100% into it but then at the same
time you don't really have the same incentive these days because YouTube money's fucked up
oh see and that's why my food show popped off because um the I do this food show called send
foods, right? It's me and the homies going to the
me and the homie going to food festivals
and just eating and drinking and talking shit.
Originally, I did that because I needed
content from my YouTube channel.
And so I was
doing that just out of my own pocket
on my channel. I wasn't making money off of it
because I had to pay for the crew, had to pay for the food,
had to pay for everything. As soon as you are making YouTube content
and you have actual expenses associated
with each piece of content, it's just
It's like you're just breaking even. That's why you need
the sponsors, right? Even if you got to spend like a couple hundred bucks
500 bucks it's all of a sudden it's most youtube videos are not profitable right exactly and luckily for
me people people really fucked with it all right so i was doing that and then i was doing it with the
goal of selling it to a bigger company so then after i did it for like maybe like a year um i was
able to sell it to thrillist uh and they were looking for content which is cool because now like
people fucked with this new show i did but i don't have to pay for it anymore so i was like oh thank god
Originally, I was only doing it in L.A. and San Diego food festivals because that's all I could afford to do.
But now we can, like, we're taking it all over the country and shit.
So, yeah, it's fun.
Is that something that you came up with sort of in the absence of the while and out thing?
Like, because when you stepped away from that, you must have had a bunch of new time in your life that you've got to fill with new creative projects, right?
Kind of sort of.
The thing about it is, people don't realize we shoot while and out.
We'll shoot a season in, like, two weeks.
Yeah.
Like two or three weeks.
We knock out just, like, we shoot like two, three episodes a day and it knock it out.
So it is pretty official.
actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I would go off maybe to New York or Atlanta for a month and then have
the rest of my year to do other things, you know, so, but I did start doing the food show in the
wild and out off season. And, and, you know, it's crazy, bro. It was like, you know, Thrilless is just
an online company, but like, high key, like, they, they're paying me better than Wowling Out
was paying me. Really? Yeah. Yeah. That's interesting. It's kind of crazy, right? And, like, I'm looking
like, where they're getting their money from? You know what I'm saying? Because, like, MTV, you know,
People think like MTV is like crazy money, but it's not like what people think, you know?
Like I'm not going to, I'm not complaining.
Like it was a fun job.
You know, I'm getting paid to it.
But they know that this is a fun job.
And they know that this is a job that's kind of beneficial to your career.
Yeah.
So they know they ain't got to pay you about that.
I mean, facts.
The thing about it, you know, of course, like, you know, you know, like YouTube can, you can make a lot of money on YouTube.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it was like, it definitely wasn't, I wasn't going to MTV like, oh, damn, I can quit YouTube now.
It was like more than anything for me, it was like, like, more than anything for me, it was
a stamp of like validation you feel me because I'd always been telling people like yo watch I'm gonna turn this into some TV shit like I'm trying to I'm gonna be on TV you know and then like it was like okay I'm got crossed over did some real shit you know yeah definitely um talk to me about Long Beach you don't still stay out there no I lived in Long Beach till I was like 11 years old I was on the uh my family had a Thai food restaurant in Paramount which is like like Compton adjacent like there's like Long Beach Compton
in Paramount Lakewood.
Not important.
But I lived in Long Beach
until I was 10,
and then I moved to Paramount
to be closer to the restaurant.
And, yeah.
They still got the restaurant?
They retired like two years ago.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Fire or Thai food, though.
You should have came through.
They didn't try to pass it on?
No, I mean, I think they
kind of asked me if I was, like,
wanting to take over the family business,
and I was like, I was, nah.
What are the numbers like?
The numbers at the restaurant?
It was, it was staying alive.
Yeah.
But not worth really,
Because it's a, man, restaurants like...
Taking your eyes off the prize that you're working on with entertainment is kind of like...
Yeah, yeah.
You're really going to be in a kitchen?
No, I'm good.
Yeah.
My parents were just tired, too.
You know, it was time.
Damn, that's crazy.
That's actually really interesting because we're sitting here talking about fucking working as YouTubers
and we're kind of forgetting about, like, what a real day's work is like.
Oh, God, more than two hours of work, no, thank you, bro.
God, life is so hard being an entertainer.
There's all these people sitting at home thinking, like,
dog, I'm about to go to Denny's.
to go do my ship to Denny. Shut up. I know for real. They're like, dude, I actually have to lift stuff.
Yeah. Shut the buck up. I know. I think about that. Every time I go to my personal trainer,
I'm like, man, I could just be doing construction. I should be getting paid to do this.
No thanks. I got to be outside. When's the last time you had a real job, though?
Last time I had a real job was California Pizza Kitchen. Yeah, that was it. Yeah, that was probably back in,
man, 2010. Right. Something 12. I don't know. Who knows? That's actually when I moved to Long Beach.
Was it? 2010. Oh, what part of Long Beach were you in?
Isad?
Oh, yeah, I was on Cedar and PCH.
Yeah, I was by like Cherry and Fourth-ish.
Oh, yeah.
You used to go down to the bars, the pike.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, second street and all that.
Did a whole lot of blowing those bathrooms.
I bet.
I bet.
I love Long Beach.
I miss Long.
Look, if I didn't have to, because I'm in, like, I'm in L.A. now.
But if I didn't have to be closer to the entertainment shit, then I would have
just bought a house in Long Beach, man.
Like Long Beach or like Cerritos.
Man, I love that area.
Long Beach.
You don't think that it's more likely for your house to get broken into out there than
here? Bro, my house got broken into like a month ago.
For real? What did they get? Anything?
Hey, it's fucked up. I didn't even talk about it. Like, I wasn't
trying to like vlog it, you know what I'm saying? Even though
I knew it would have got a lot of views, but I was like, let me
not do that. Ace family it real quick. Yeah, you know,
I'm saying, hey, no shade, bro. I just, I wasn't trying
to do that. Actually, I don't think that they fake that robbery that everybody
thought they fixed. Some of that they faked it. I was, for what? I mean,
I understand for what? Definitely gets views, but.
I feel like they're getting enough views. They don't need no fake robbery.
Yeah, exactly. But
I just, so I got broken into maybe like a month or so ago, and they didn't get nothing crazy.
They got my laptop and my chick's laptop.
They got some jewelry, which was annoying.
But, yeah, it was just, it was stupid.
Did you have a security system and shit?
Yeah, we did security system.
They were in and out, bro.
We had like a package on the front, and then I guess they thought that no one picked up the package, knocked on the door,
dude like broke in the back, and then they just in and out, snatched up whatever they could find, ran out.
Wow.
Yeah.
How did that make you feel?
Violated.
Yeah, violated, right?
You know, I mean, it's, for me, for me, it was kind of like, ah, fuck, you know, like, it's annoying.
But for your girl.
For my girl, you know, she's Canadian and shit.
Like, and the area that she was from, she had never dealt with a break in anything like that.
So she was shook, you know, for me, I'm like, you know, when you kind of around it, you're like, ah, it's fucked up.
And you're kind of more, she's more vulnerable.
Super.
Say she was in there.
Oh, exactly.
And she said that, too, because, you know, like, because she's Canadian, she's not allowed to work right now.
until we do the whole green card shit.
So she would have been just home, chilling.
Luckily, she wasn't home that day, but she was definitely shaking up.
That's some scary shit right there.
Yeah, bro.
How do you mean your girl?
It'll be eight years that we've been together next month.
And actually today is one year since we got married.
Really?
Yeah, dog.
And how's that going?
Well, I'm spending my anniversary with you, so obviously...
Sorry, baby.
No, no, it's great.
Marriage is actually lit.
Really?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah?
When people ask me, I'm like, you know what?
It's pretty great.
Do you feel sort of separated from your younger, wilder self that you maybe were in touch with
as a young in?
Yeah, I mean, I do.
But obviously, like, it can't be an all bad thing.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
I wouldn't have, like, gotten to this point if I feel like I didn't already get that out of my
system and did my thing.
You know, I'm saying.
Like, I had a good time.
It was fun.
Did some reckless shit.
And now, you know, I'm over that.
You thinking about babies?
In the near future, sooner than later.
My parents are definitely pressing me hard for some grandkids.
Yeah, before we even got married, they were like, don't even get married.
Just give a grandkids, please.
I'm glad my parents have never got on my ass about that.
It was so annoying.
Bro, my parents want grandkids so bad.
And then they really want twins for some reason.
And then, sorry, Mom.
I'm not a miracle maker over here.
And my wife swears were going to have like four daughters.
She says that all the time.
How does that sound?
I don't know, man.
As soon as she said it, I felt a chill go out on my entire body.
I was like, oh shit, she's right.
Really?
And every time I tell that to somebody,
they're like, you know what that is, bro?
That's the player's curse.
You're going to have to become a monk.
Because you're going to have to do something to deal with the feeling of just knowing that you brought
these women into the world and you're responsible for them.
That's got a lot of pressure right there, man.
I know, man?
And men are trash, you know what I'm saying?
They're walking around with the world's most valuable resource between their legs
and you're the only one that's sort of tasked with helping them to understand what they have
and how to protect it.
And they're going to be like smart and funny.
and pretty and shit.
They're going to have booty like their mom.
Because they're going to grow up with parents that have way more money and nicer stuff
and, you know, more ability to do whatever than you did, right?
I think I'm going to make them think we're broke until we're like, they're like 12, though.
Because, you know, I feel like that builds character.
You know what I'm saying?
Because me growing up, it's like we did not have money.
So it was like I felt like not having money and feeling like we had to struggle for some
shit, maybe like a harder worker, maybe more like motivated.
So I want them to feel like, hey, man.
Man, shit's fucked up.
I wonder when people who are like, because like me and you are seemingly in pretty similar situations where we both grew up with like no money.
Yeah.
And then managed to like get ourselves into a position where we're living a better quality of life.
Right.
I wonder what it's like when like people who grew up with money are sitting around talking about raising their kids.
Because I bet that they're just like totally.
I bet that they think that everything we just said about wanting to raise your kid to not know that they're rich.
I bet that that doesn't make as much sense to them if they grew up rich.
Man, I think about that all the time, to be honest.
Because, like, they probably feel like, oh, I'm down to earth.
Like, I'm not spoiled, right?
But then at the same time, I feel like growing up broke just really kind of does something different to you.
It grounds you, yeah.
We think because we grew up broke.
I mean, I guess that's all we know, right?
We got to come up with the most positive spin possible.
But maybe someday we'll be rich enough that we'll understand that this is a diluted conversation.
And actually growing up poor is just terrible for your existence.
I mean, I never met a rich young kid that I liked.
I agree with that
And that's what fucking crazy shit
about being in Hollywood
Is it just meet more and more
People like that
And it's always this sort of weird thing
Between you
It's just in the air
Where you just know like
Bro, you grew up with fucking
You had all the shit handed to you
Come on
I don't even like
When little kids
Want to modify their food orders
I feel like that's annoying
I remember when I was
When I was a waiter at California Pizza Kitchen
I remember this girl
She couldn't have been older than like
Seven bro
Talking about
Can I get it with the cheese on the side
And I was like
Are you serious little girl
Eat the fucking food?
Bro?
Right.
Why are you modifying?
Who told you you could modify?
Yeah, yeah.
This is not,
this not your right.
You can't do that.
No, actually,
but I grew up,
and my sister was the,
the pickyest eater I ever knew,
and she would always order
a chicken sandwich
with nothing on it.
Even as a kid,
I would just look at it.
It'd be like bread and chicken.
So you're saying white people
go to restaurants
and get it unseasoned?
That is the most white thing possible
as her going there and doing that.
I mean, she was like six,
but still.
It's not even that they don't season at home.
They go and request no seasoning.
I don't even know if I knew
what seasoning was
until I got much, much older.
That's how white my upbringing was.
No, I mean, that's a weird thing to get into because, you know, I went like my whole life without
cooking and then I'll just have like a, you know, I'll make something with, with somebody
or I'll be watching.
Now I watch a lot of cooking shows.
I don't really know why because I'm still not doing any cooking.
No, me neither.
But it's just kind of calming, therapeutic in a weird way.
But that's one thing you realize.
There's a lot of salt and pepper and that seems like that's kind of the gist of it.
A lot of butter.
A lot of butter.
Man, and you know, you know, here's what kind of fuck this.
on my cholesterol, right? Because I grew up thinking if I'm eating fancy food or like just
bougie spots, I'm like, oh, this shit's fresh, right? So it's like, it's healthy for me.
It's not fast food. It's healthy. But then you don't realize they cook it in so much butter to
make it so good. Yeah, my cholesterol is like kind of high right now. It is. Yeah. It's been eating
out too much. I mean, then I do the food show too. So it's like, I mean, the last time I went to
the doctor, which is probably like a year and a half ago, she was like, hey, so your cholesterol
all's not day it's not like high but like let's say I'm supposed to be between here and here and
I'm like right here right you know what I'm saying so like trying to trying to get healthy that's
actually the one thing I wanted to ask you when you're doing the cooking show because like for me
the way I eat is I will like literally like if me and my girl go out to eat and this is really what got
me into trouble and this is why I fucking have to be on this diet right now and everything is me
and my girl will go out to eat and I got into the habit of ordering like three appetizers two
entrees for myself right then she's
and whatever. Just because like, you know, we got money now. I'm looking at the menu. Like,
fuck it, man. Let's get it. God, I went to Australia with a couple of my fucking friends.
And I saw how much money I spent on going out to eat afterwards. And I was like, wow, that's,
that's no joke right now. Well, Australia is is expensive, though.
But this is very true. But what I'm saying is when you're going to doing the food cooking
show and everything, are you just stuff in your face, like the way that I'm used to
going out to eat or are you aware of the fact you have to save your appetite for the day and
you're just kind of nibbling. Yeah, no, definitely aware. First of all, let me see.
That's how I got fatter, too, is because when I started getting the money, I wanted to order two appetizers,
an entree, dessert, all that shit.
The shit we could never get when you're younger, right?
And when you start to think, like, well, I want to get a salad, but I don't know if the salad's
going to be good when I'm post-meat.
So I might as well get this, too, so that I can kind of make sure that I get something I'm hyped on.
That's a dangerous mentality.
But yeah, when I do the food show, I always keep in mind I'm going to be eating for like the next few hours.
So we usually, I try to like bite, bite pass.
You know, maybe give it to, sometimes my chick will come.
So I'm like, hey, baby, you want the rest of this or whatever, whatever.
My dude that I shoot the show with, he tries, but he has a problem putting it down if it's really good.
Like, we did an episode at Smorgasburg in L.A., and there's a sandwich spot there called Ugly Drum that does these crazy pastrami sandwiches that are so fire.
And he was telling me about it.
He was like, bro, you got to go.
You got to try this, blah, blah, blah.
So we're eating it on camera.
I took a bite.
I was like, yo, this is amazing.
I was like, but we got to put it down.
We got the rest of the show to do.
he ate the whole fucking sandwich
so by the end of the episode
he was like about to puke
because on top of the sandwich
we'd been just eating all day
he's like oh I couldn't do it man
I had to eat it
yeah that's a tough decision
because food is like that
where you sort of know
that you're making yourself sick
and you're doing something
it's such a weird thing
to be passionate about
to have as a hobby
I know
because you sort of know
and it's just
it's fleeting you do it
and that's actually kind of
the cool thing about social media
and the show
is that at least you have a record
of what you ate
but most of the really
expensive or delicious meals I've eaten my life. I forgot about it almost immediately, right?
Really? I mean, most of them, right, except for this duck in New York, bro. You got to go to this one spot, bro, so far.
The only ones I remember, oh, dude, we were just in London. We went to the spot called
Duck and Waffle. It's just like Rosco's, but it's all duck.
But it's duck instead of chicken? Damn.
Fire. That's crazy.
I stand that place. See, okay, you know what I just realized? Because I've always been
under the impression that the food in London was trash whenever I went, but that's, I have yet to
go to the bougie spots in London.
That's interesting. Yeah, I mean, if you wait till 11 p.m. and you want to get food in London,
then you're pretty much choosing between the fried chicken spot, the kebab spot, maybe some pizza. It's not great.
I remember I was doing a club show in London, and the promoters, they took me to this spot,
and it was like kind of like a fancier hometown buffet, right? It was like, you go, you get your cut of meat,
and then, like, you put your little sides of the mashed potatoes and your gravy, whatever. And I came back,
and I thought I had a moderate, like, appropriate amount of gravy on my shit, right? And everyone else's
shit was like drowning in gravy right and they were like it's so dry isn't it dry without any gravy you
don't barely have any gravy and i'm like bro what you're talking about right i cut into my shit
it's dry as shit right and i'm like they're like because you don't have any gravy i'm like bro let me tell you
something if you cook this shit right you don't need to drown it in gravy bro they were like oh
i'm like no i'm not talking shit i'm telling you this just whack you know what the problem is is
that all these englishmen they eat these i feel like they don't eat that much they spread their meals
are like crazier they're used to like you know you go like a breakfast spot in england it's like
everyone thinks it's normal to get like a coffee and like a scone for breakfast whereas like um typical
american breakfast is like nah it's like hella protein which but by the way the english breakfast
the full english breakfast with the beans and the tomato and like yeah i could eat that forever yeah yeah
i enjoy that too it's a little it looks weird at first right i mean the beans freak you out a little bit
the black what's the black shit the it's like heart or something it's like blood pudding oh
That's what that is, right?
Black pudding.
Black pudding.
What's in that?
Black pudding?
It doesn't taste like pudding, so I don't know what to tell you.
Another time I was in England trying to ask this dude that was driving us around, like,
yo, what's like a English?
What's like a London delicacy, bro?
Like, what do I need to eat out here?
Like, y'all specialize in, right?
And this dude had like a weird accent.
I don't know where he was from from.
His name was Segar, right?
And he was like, oh, well, borados.
And I was like, what's that?
What's borados?
I'm like that's some English shit
He's like yeah borados
He's like you know
You could have like
Mashed borados
Big burados
I'm like you talk about potatoes
Bro
You're talking about potatoes?
You're telling me to eat some potatoes
Mashed boradol
A food that is consumed in every country on earth
Wow
That's hilarious
Holy shit
Shout out to Segar
I feel like we can go to London though
There's a big emphasis on just getting like
Indian food
Yeah yeah
Or even Thai food is really popular
So the Indian
food and Chinese food and Thai food in London is popping. And then of course Nando's. You go, you fuck
with the Nandoes? Big Nandoes. Man, Nandoes. You know the original name was Chickenland? Really?
Is this? That is the original name from back in, uh, was South Africa? South Africa? Yeah.
Chicken land. Chicken land. That was the original name. Because one day we were eating so much Nandoes
that we felt the need to go on the Wikipedia article and just learn everything we could about Nando's
and it was very exhilarated. And you know, they have a black card. That's what I'm holding out for.
I want that Nando's black card. What does that get you?
Free Nandals for life.
What?
Yes.
They got them in Chicago and Maryland, but not in L.A.
Not yet.
I heard a rumor that Wiz likes Nando so much.
He was trying to open up one in L.A., but he couldn't for whatever reason.
See, that's what, at first I was thinking that I'm like, hmm, maybe I can open to Nando's.
And I'm like, you know what?
There's so many people that probably have way more money than you that are way more popping that have tried a bet.
Hey, man, I'm going to send some emails and I'm going to let me know if you're trying to go in on opening up a Nando.
I just want an explanation for why they can't.
open the Nando's here because it's like if you're you know when you think about in and out i was
actually reading about in and out the other day like the whole in and out business model and
how tightly and well run it is is why they don't just open up stores left and right oh they don't
want to get sloppy you know and it's like it's just their business operates very very
differently than like McDonald's because McDonald's like owns all the real estate and everything
too so in and out's kind of working in a different way and i think you know we kind of forget
that a big part of why we love in and out is because it is really high quality and it's
kind of limited and it's like you know that that is part of the brand's identity yeah and you could
really say that about nando's too is that if all of a sudden there was a nandoz on every corner it would
probably start to feel not so special you know what i started doing bro is i would buy a bottle of
you know because you can get the bottles to go i would buy a bottle from when i'll go to australia
or london and just eat it with some appollo loco see there you go yeah man oh polloo loco
not bad oh poyloca's fire yeah slept on super slept on i don't think people give appoia loco enough
credit, to be honest. For a while, I was ordering, what was it, Baja Fresh? Oh, Baja Fresh.
Off Uber Eats. And I thought it was just some local chain. And my girl was just like,
yo, you know that's like fast food, right? And I'm like, I was like, hurt because I had
been eating it for months and didn't know that it was like a chain. You're like my authentic
Mexican spot? I'm thinking I'm ordering from some family. I was hurt. That actually
bothered me a little bit. Baja fresh also fire, though. This is an extremely offensive
question, but let's talk about Panda Express. Do you have any, do you have any love for it?
I love Panda Express. Yeah.
Yeah, I think as an Asian person, you can appreciate Panda Express.
I hate the motherfuckers that are like, oh, that's fake Chinese food.
Like, of course it's fake Chinese food.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, duh.
Like, you don't go to Taco Bell for authentic tacos.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
There's Taco Bell and then there's talk.
And then there's like, you know, fucking Leo's Taco truck.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
And then there's PanDA Express and then there's like real ass Chinese food.
And to be honest, haven't been to China a bunch of times, I don't really want to see the fast food version of what is typically being eaten in China.
I don't really think it would like swap over well.
Hey, man.
I mean, I've been to China either, so I don't know.
But I feel like it's probably fire as well, whatever it is.
Great food, but it's just not, you know, it's probably not stuff that would really appeal to the average American.
Oh, oh, exactly, exactly.
And like definitely, look, I love, I love going to like a Chinese restaurant, you know what I'm saying, getting some like pecking duck or some like some egg drop soup or whatever, some real shit.
And then, but every once in a while I'll be in the mood for just some orange chicken and some beef broccoli from Panda Express, you know?
The combo, rice, and noodles.
Can't be mad.
Actually, it kind of fucked me up because I had it in the airport recently, and it was like 30% worse than it normally is.
And when you're telling Pan Amexpress, you really don't have 30% to play with.
Yeah.
Because just the hard, low main, that was rough for me.
And the orange chicken was probably extra stuck together and shit.
Yeah, it just wasn't really quite there for me.
Yeah.
So what are you working on at this point?
What are you in the pipeline that you're excited about?
aside from you get the podcast the podcast no chaser podcast if you know people
every once in a while people comment like no chaser like they're like you trying to copy no jumper
and i'm like i'm like brice first of all they're completely different shows like my show's more
of sex and relationships and i always felt like no jumper like i mean it was i feel like it was more
like a like a music driven show you know i'm saying um so people like at first when i launched it they
were like oh bro you're trying to like copy i'm like come on bro listen to the shit first you know what i
was thinking notes of staff is we got to find a good no dumping a sign and just
rip that off.
Why don't you think of that?
I saw no dumping sign with a dolphin the other day.
And I was like...
Just hanging back here.
That could look cool.
Not here just on the side of the road.
I mean, you need some ambiance over here.
But it's kind of confusing.
You think of me doing?
Just the all white ain't doing it anymore.
I mean, I've been doing this for so long with nothing in the background that it's just
like weird to even think about what it would look like if there was something
in the background.
I mean, if this is working for you, it's all you need.
Oh, yeah, it's going fine.
But, uh...
Wait, what was I saying?
Oh, no dumping.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No jumping. Shout out to No Chaser Podcast. It's my podcast. And then the food show is keeping me super busy. Send Foods is keeping me busy. But aside from that, I'm working on my first studio album in like six years. I was rapping under the name Traffic, was my rap name for a long time. And then I kind of put the music on the back burner, just focus on other shit, like the comedy shit and whaling out and other stuff. And I'll be doing my first album.
Like rapping as Timothy de la ghetto.
I was keeping them separately at first because I didn't want people to think I was doing like comedy music.
You feel me?
So I was doing comedy under one name, rapping under another name.
But I feel like at this point, people know what I do, you feel of me?
So doing that.
Makes sense.
And I'm trying to write a movie.
Really?
Yeah, because I feel like, you know, traditional media is really, really beginning to look at new media for as a little talent pool now.
But not everybody with a following can necessarily write and act.
and they know how to navigate that space.
I feel like I've always kind of done that on my YouTube.
So I think I kind of have like a leg up in terms of getting into the room and pitching ideas and writing scripts and shit.
Do you feel like the market is opening up in the sense that Hollywood kind of wants to tell well thought out Asian stories at this point?
Is it becoming something that they seem a bit more interested in when you do these meetings?
Yeah, Asian people are popping now.
Bro, diversity is the way...
Diversity is big now.
Especially for Asian people.
Big me as a white man, Tom, man.
Let me tell you.
It's hard out here.
No, no, it's just fine.
I see it.
I see y'all getting all these opportunities.
I'm mad as fuck.
Oh, my God.
That's hilarious.
But, yeah, it's a nice little Asian way.
You know, Crazy Rich Asians definitely opened up a lot of doors.
So I think people are more open to even not necessarily telling Asian stories, but just
using Asian people as some.
regular shit, you know? I mean, the movie I'm writing isn't necessarily an Asian story. Like,
it's just kind of my story I'm writing, but there will be Asian people in, because I'll be
in it. And I think it's definitely easier to get in the room now than before. Yeah, definitely.
That's interesting. Yeah. I mean, I knew crazy rich agents would do that, too. Like, I was telling
people, even if it's whack, I'm going to tell people it's dope because I wanted to make money.
Are they supposed to do a sequel to that? They probably are, because I know there's multiple books. The movie
was based on some books. So, yeah.
It was like a crazy rich Asians like restaurant, Uber Eats or something shit for a while.
Did you ever see that?
No.
No.
That freaked me out.
I forget what it was called exactly.
But it was on there and it was weird.
And we ordered it and it was good.
That's good.
You know, whatever.
Whatever.
Yo, I appreciate you coming on, man.
Hey, thanks for having me, dog.
Yeah, for sure.
Hey, you come on my shit.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Wait, actually, that's one thing I wanted to ask.
How did you come up with your co-hosts on that show?
Oh, so my boy, Ricky Shucks, the Portly Black gentleman.
So that was just your boy from beforehand?
That's my boy from high school.
He's always been in my YouTube content.
Always helped me write sketches and being sketches, shit like that.
And he always has something smart to say.
And Nikki Blades, who I've known for a long time, she's from the Bay Area.
She's a while and out girl, or she was a while and out girl.
And she also does radio in the Bay Area.
So I just thought she would be good for it.
Yeah.
And yeah, that's it.
That's dope.
Yeah, she was funny.
I was listening to her to talk about wearing makeup at the gym.
but she said she wears limited amounts of makeup at the gym
because that's something I think about all the time.
Yeah, because, you know, it's important.
You see girls wearing makeup at the gym and you're like,
what the fuck are you doing?
Like, I know how long that shit takes to put on.
And this is just not responsible.
It's all for the pictures, Doc.
Why are you taking pictures in the gym?
The gym is the one place you shouldn't be taking pictures, I think.
So you can hashtag, you know, gym life and fucking
always something.
I don't know.
I'm a new hashtag never not working.
I'm, wait, but I'm new to follow on you on Instagram.
So am I to expect a lot of gym selfies?
Is that how you get down?
No, I'm very, I seldomly post the gym selfie.
I got to be really feeling myself.
I never do.
I've never posted anything in the gym.
I'm embarrassed because I'm like, I don't look like I'm in the gym.
I look fat.
It's not fair.
No, dog, wait till the shit starts showing results.
Then you're going to be posting them.
I posted, look, I honestly, I went to the gym for the first time, like two months a little while ago.
And I had a nice little pump going, and I was looking extra sweaty because I sat in the sauna.
I wasn't even sweat.
I was just wet.
Yeah.
And I was like.
I'm feeling myself, bro.
I don't know if I could post a wet pick.
Like a pumped muscle slash wet pick.
That's a lot going on.
I don't know.
But then, no, the hack is that you just got to post some shit about like, you know what?
I'm just trying to better myself or, you know, I'm on this journey right now to get healthy.
Then it's okay.
Then it's not narcissistic anymore.
The only is the best shit is like when game posted the dick print.
Right.
Because that's something that you have access to as a man that a girl can't really do so much.
It's like a camel to.
is not as well received, but a dick print.
But you know what?
People should appreciate camel toes.
I love a good camel toe.
You know what I'm saying?
Whenever I see a girl with a nice camel toe in a picture,
and I see these dumb-ass 12-year-olds in the comments,
like, leaving fucking cameltoe emojis and, oh, yeah.
Shut up.
I'm trying to see that.
Yeah, like, are y'all dumb?
Like, her whole cooties out.
That's literally a vagina.
It's just covered by a thin piece of fabric.
Silly-ass little boy?
It's fine.
Observe that.
Kids.
Take it in.
Take it in.
That's what you need in your life.
Youngens.
They don't know.
Idiots.
Appreciate everybody who watch this.
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