No Jumper - TK Kirkland Interview

Episode Date: November 29, 2019

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We're rolling everybody. It's the TK.K. Kirkland with my man, Adam 22. Rolling. It's the no jumper show. They hate in. T to the motherfucker K. I don't know if I'm...

Am I going to be able to recover from starting it out doing the day rolling thing? Say it again. No jumper. Coolest podcast in the world. I'm in here with T.K. Kirkland. How are you feeling, man? How you doing, sir?

It's a pleasure. Oh, man, I'm doing good. Now, I'm going to tell you first. I didn't know was you Spanish, black or white. Black or white? Black was an option? Yeah. I didn't know.

But when they said Adam 22, I knew no black guy was going to walk around with a dame like that. Bro, these these uh. But I like that though. These comedians because DC Young Fly was in here and he asked me straight up, are you black or white? I'm like, you're really asking me that? Are you black or white? I'm white. But I'm like, you're a black guy.

You're looking right at me. You can't tell that I'm white. But you could be white with a little black in you. I could, but let me tell you. I'm French, Canadian, Italian, and Irish. I can tell you about no structure. I can see a little Italian. Mm, yeah, just straight.

And not even, you know, there's something cool about being, you know, if I was Polish. Okay. You're just all one ethnicity or from one place. That's kind of cool. Right. Being a mix of all the different types of white is kind of like, oh, what do I symbolize? Just craziness. Every manor-colored person walking the face of the earth.

Do you have all those in you? Yeah. Wow. Not every type of white, but, you know, French, Canadian, Italian, Irish. How old are you now? 35. Okay. You got 10 years.

Ten years till what? Did the crazy shit gone? come. 45 is one of the crazy shit comes? Crazy shit's coming. See, for the record, the people out there don't know my man is 59. Yes, sir. So you, that's like the main thing I think I could maybe glean from you.

You could be like my Sherpa into old age. Yes, well, I avoid stress. You know, I avoid stress. I take care of myself, you know. What I do throughout the year, I work out pretty much four times a week. And then like November, I slow it down. Really? But I work out like three times a day.

I get up in the morning, I do 200 pushups, 200 setups. 200, no breaks? Oh, you're definitely doing a break. My college can't handle it. How many do you do in a set? Just 25. Okay. Yeah, 25, I try to take a little break in between.

Do I do the push-ups, the curls, all that before I even walk out the house? Then I go to the gym and do another workout. Then after that, I do mountains or ride a bike and all that kind of stuff. So I try to do that. Hey, it's nice to be an entertainer, right? that you got a nice little like three, four hour segment where you can just work out in the morning. A lot of people are listening to that,

they're like, Jesus Christ, I would like to do that. Yeah, that's true because even though I travel the world a lot, I do a lot of comedy shows, there's still a lot of free time. So what I do is I try to make sure that on that free time, I'm loving me. I call it like putting that same energy into myself. Because there's one conclusion that I feel like as a podcaster, as a comedian, as any sort of entertainer that you come to,

is that if you go into work and you're the best version of you, then you're going to put on the best show that you can and give the people the best thing that they paid for, etc. And it's like, I'm imagining the TK. Kirklin on three hours of sleep is still going to be able to do a decent set at the comedy shop, but it's not going to be what it is if you've exercised, if you've rested, if you've had your food all day. And that's what we want to give out to the young people.

They take it as a game, sleeping, not sleeping, dreams. drinking alcohol, lean and all that kind of stuff, you're destroying your body. The goal to me to get successful is to live longer, take care of your family, not go to prison. You understand? Not hurt women, not hurt yourself. But be successful. You put everything that you work hard for into you because the goal in life is, I call it, extend the contract of life. Right.

Because we all got a due date that we leave here. But the goal is, can I renegotiate this contract? Right. So God is like, okay, what are you going to do? So you want to stretch your longevity as long as you can. So you got to eat well. You got to drink your water. You have to meditate. You have to do things to better you because this are our shows, podcast, Vlad, T.K. Kirkland, we have to empower our young people to understand that you've got to live. There's a lot of depression going on. Mental health. I just got off the highway. I sort of under the freeway. God damn. Yeah, it's rough. I know exactly what you're talking about. Yeah. It's rough over there, yeah.

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Don't give up. You guys stay strong. I mean, when I think back to my younger days, I wasn't like really drawn to drinking and drugs so much as I felt like in a weird way that I had to prove myself that I could do that, that I could get by on two hours of sleep, that I could stay up till six in the morning and be out doing my thing at 10. Like for some reason that was a badge of honor to just go without all the things that you would assume that you need to get by. It was a myth.

They used to say, oh, you can sleep when you die. Well, guess what? Your ass going to be in there a lot faster. Mm-hmm. Because you got to rest. Right. You have to rest. And now I look at my life like if I get five hours of sleep one night, it's an emergency that I get a whole lot of sleep the next day or then I find some time to take a nap.

I like that. I like that. I am the quality of my experience is what I'm giving out to the world. I've done big podcasts on a couple hours sleep. And it's just not worth it. I'm giving the people a shitty version to myself. That's right. That's right.

And when you're well rested, you can think clear. You're not worrying about it. You're coming across tired. Like the last month and a half, I've been in almost every city in America promoting my new special, who raised you, which is number one in the country. By the way, I'm excited. But it wore me out. But I was making sure I was getting my rest. Because when you're on the road, if you choose, like when you're on the road, you have to be a lot more intentional about holding it together.

You got to go out of your way to eat healthy. You have to like, you have to say no to a lot of shit at the end of the night. When people are like, hey, let's go to the bar. Let's go do this. You have to actually have the self-control to be like, no, I got to sleep. I go to go sleep. Like, I even stop having sex. You know, I used to have one-niners, snuggled up with a girl, you know, doing my thing.

Yeah, you seem like kind of a thought based on, for a guy who is as late into life as you, you're just talking about. but that's your goal when you get into town is to get a, have a girl get her nails done on you. Yeah, yeah. See, I believe in 10 care of women, though. Yeah. I'm old school. I'm not worried about their nails.

Yeah, I'm the kind of, I'm going to get your hair. See, your young kids don't do that. See, when we was growing up, we have sex with a woman. After we was done, the hair was all sweaty. You know, your paper was right. You drop off $300. You send her to do that after you smash.

Right. Yeah, baby. There's a little something for you. See, the economy isn't what it once was. Oh, my God. Thank you. Now we get to the Uber pool. Yeah, like, oh my God, thank you.

That's so nice to you. I was listening to you on tax, bro. You're talking about, oh, there's a whole bunch of new girls who graduated high school. Right, right, right. And the reason why I put that in the universe, because pussy is a powerful thing on this earth, right? This is true. And it is destroying these young men. You think?

It's worse than cancer. Really? Because they're not respecting it. And see, and say, and. Sex is not something that you're entitled to. This is what I'm going to put out into the universe. It's not what you're entitled to. It's what you earn.

Right. So you've got to earn sex. You understand? And if you earn it, like work hard, save your money, take a woman flowers, treat it right now. And you've got some women who don't deserve all that because they probably wasn't raised right. But the people who hear us talk, we want to put out in the universe about shivery, open the woman's door, being a stucing. can be a street dude. You still can be a man.

And I feel weak by being a gentleman. There's a message put out through the media and everything that in any way treating a woman like a specific woman is almost a bad thing. So I feel like maybe a lot of young people sort of get that idea into their head that that it's not that women don't want to be treated like that. And I don't think that's true at all. I think that in reality, if you want to get a girl to fuck with you who is above your pay grade, you should like.

laying on her a little bit. You should tell her you want to take her out to dinner and tell her you want to go to the movies. The reality is that if she's some hot 23-year-old, she might not really have had a lot of guys say they want to take her to the movies in her life. That's so true. And you got to know, as you get older gentlemen, you got to know strategy of

life. Like I said, I'm almost 60. I would not date a girl in her 20s or 30 years unless she was just so cold. I was going to fuck her, but then give her game. Because you have to let a woman bump her head, so to speak. Meaning you got going in

universe, you've got to have a man hurt your feelings. You've got to have a man probably take advantage of it because you need these life lessons down the line to know how to handle it. When I see a guy who's successful and he's in his 40s and he's dating the

18 or 19 year old girl, I'm like, horrible. What the fuck do you talk to her about? What do you have in common? When I hang out with a girl who's even 22, 23, yes. You're right, there are occasionally times where you'll run into one who's really, really smart, and you're like, oh, shit, like, she gets it. She's going to be great, blah, blah, but for the most part, it's just like, we don't have a long comment.

Not a lot of comment. I have my heartbroken a million times. I got jumped and beat up a million times. I've, like, you know, been through so much, and you have so little life experience. What the fuck are we really going to vibe with? You should be with a guy who has as much life experience as you. Exactly. And you want, dating a woman or man young, you want someone as you get older that knows I call it know how to control the climate of the room. Because think about it, 20 years ago, something that upset at you, then you look at that and laugh now. Exactly.

Like, I mean, I just a trip about that shit. Especially in a relationship. Especially in a relationship. Because the kind of things that my girl could do or say and that I'll just be like, wow, whatever. Right. When I was 18 and 19, everything seemed like a much bigger deal. Exactly.

So I call that control the climate of the room. You got to know how to be. be mature. Like some men a date a beautiful woman with a fat ass or whatever. But if she gets attention by other people, he want to beat the dude up or beat her up because you wasn't

prepared. So you got to be a you got to be prepared to have a beautiful woman in your life. That's a lot responsibility. A lot of responsibility. Just like driving. Especially when you're not around and she's running around doing a thing. You've got to be confident enough to not lose your mind. But a lot of guys, even rich, successful, famous guys,

will basically get the hottest girl that they can possibly get regardless of personality and then they will stress themselves the fuck out and ruin their entire lives chasing her career just freaking out oj simpson let's just start there right but that kind of thing right i mean it drives dudes mad but some people want that bullshit they want that bullshit and i tell people you got to know when you go from a geo to the bentley the insurance is going to be different just it is you know so your mom so your mom mindset got to be right. Yep.

And if you can't get into a woman, that's why I always teach men to talk to a woman first, right? Believe it or not, most women that you meet on the first night or that week, if you take your time, I guarantee you,

nine percent of the time, you won't want to fuck her a month later. Once you find out everything about her, everything about her, everything. But that's one of the best feelings when you go out with a girl, you don't really get along

with her personality, was, but you are attracted to her, and then you end up sleeping with her. And then you're just like, wow, I never have to deal with that shitty personality ever again. That's true, but it's not worth it. Yeah, I don't think it's worth it. My dick won't even get hard on no shit like that. Really? I'm being honest, yo.

If you can't connect with me mentally, oh, it ain't happening. And I got, as I've gotten older, there's certain things that are important. It may sing petty. The kind of car you drive is important to me. Really? The kind of car you drive to me is important. And let me explain to what I mean. be a Toyota Camry. It could be a Geo storm. But when I look in that car, you better not have

2,000 pairs of shoes in the back seat. You better not have towels. You better not have magazines in the back seat. You better not have no McDonald's candy paper. Yeah. You better not have no papers. I better not see no fridoles on the on the ground on your carpet because that right there tells me you're not responsible. You're dirty. And you don't care what people think of you. See, I was trying to explain this to my girl because she got money. Right. But she still drives the same Honda Civic that she had for like four or five years.

And she doesn't understand why she might want to upgrade. She's like, nobody ever sees me in this thing. I'm like, listen, it's just a quality of life thing mentally. Like, it'll affect you in some weird way. Just know that you're the type of person that drives around in a nice car. Right. Yeah. And her upbringing might be just phenomenal.

She's just super humble, low-key. There you go. Makes tons of money. Doesn't spend any of it. See? but even that's bad and good all right you want someone like that in a sense

because she's not really impressed by money you know you'll meet once in the black community you might meet a black woman won every 30 women that I say I'm not impressed by money but have a lot of money but then you got a lot of women who money is a key factor in a man

sometimes I think it's nice I remember I used to catch cases back in my day and I remember I caught this big case and I was in Miami now I was down there on some business And believe it or not, I was walking past a laundromat. And I saw a guy and girl just staring at the fucking dryer while the clothes is drying.

Believe it or not, that was an important moment in my life because it was so innocent, so sincere that they didn't have no rose for you. They probably didn't live in a big house. I was walking past a laundromat and they were in love or seemed to be in love watching the motherfucker can try or go around. And I think when you're going through something,

you start appreciating those type of things in relation. Just like if you was about to die, and they say you had six months to leave. Now, all of a sudden, everything becomes important to you. Or if you get locked up, everything becomes important. You want to know if it's daylight outside. Sometimes you don't know the time. You start asking people what the time is.

Right. A soda becomes important. I got locked up in the county jail here. And as it's going to taking us through lockup, this is when you've got money on you. And he takes a look. It was a guy had a can to fuck soda, like CEO. Right.

C.O. Let me just specify that you paid him $20 for half a cup of soda. I paid him $20. I was just listening to you talked to tax. Yes, I paid on $20. Free tax. But that motherfucker soda. It's crazy.

Yeah. And that was about me being a celebrity. The CEOs used to take me away from the out of cell. I used to get blimpies, the real food. You know, that was the great thing about, having a little celebrity thing on your side. When's the last time that you did a significant amount of time? I never did a lot of time.

Oh, okay. Yeah, thank God. I used to catch cases, and sometimes by me out thinking the judge, and they know what I was doing, they were reprimand me or remand me into jail. So they got me in Rikers one time for like 30 days. But what was so great, my every bad situation I've ever been in always turned out to be great. I remember being locked up at Rikers Island 30 days. two days day I was on the cash money

Rough Rider tour so I remember from one man I was already working on that deal already because I'm my own agent my own manager that deal was already in the works before it even took off but it was so beautiful to be locked up in Rikers Island two days later

I was one of the biggest tours in the country in the 90s went from a one man cell to 18,000 seater do you feel like nowadays your life has been comfortable enough for long enough that you quite often forget about how much you should really be appreciating the little

things? Are you too far away from you? What happened with the social media podcast like this? Vlad of course, Breakfast Club. Shut up Vlad. It made me appreciate my accomplishments, right? Because I wasn't sharing it with anybody. I'm the guy who was

truly humble. Like, once I do it, I don't talk about it anymore. Like when my mother was alive and she used to see me on BT, Comic View, and all the stuff. And she would call me. He's like, babe, why you ain't telling me you was going to be on TV? I'm like, oh, my, I got the check already. I'm cool.

So over the last few years, a lot of people didn't know that I was behind a lot of celebrities, like D.L. Hughley, Gawfrey, et cetera. And it was almost to a point that they felt that it was almost a lie until the D.L. And I spoke up to, nah, T.K. Kirkland. The Gawfries spoke up to, nah, T.K. Kirkland. And it's just a long list of great things out of a conference. And I'm like, I'm impressed. Right.

Like I sit down now like, oh shit, I really fucking did that. And that leads to me receiving the award on Saturday in Atlanta with the Red Fox Award, Humo Award that they're giving me. Right. And with the money that they raised, I'm supposed to be a big check they're giving me. We're taking that money and putting the water box with Ellen DeGeneres, Will Smith, Jaylon Smith's son. and all that money's going towards helping flip Michigan and clear their water crisis situation up there. Well, that's interesting because there's something about

what has sort of happened to the internet where it's like tidbits of factual information from the classic days of hip-hop have become like real currency. Like you going and doing a interview clip with Vlad where you talk about how, some crazy shit happened on tour with Dre or easy or whoever.

Right. That is something that might get a million views. Absolutely. If you tell a crazy-ass fight story from an NWA tour or something like that. And that's really interesting because in a lot of ways, as you know, the audience that we all know that

the audience of hip-hop is very young. So we kind of expect in some way that our legends are going to become less capable of like really doing numbers on the internet because the fans are going to slowly like forget and not really care about the NW. or whatever. But instead, I feel like we've seen kind of the opposite where it's like if, if Jay-Z

bumped into you in the hallway and told you to fuck off, that's going to be all the news. It's like a 30-year-old story about something like that. And so it's like your experiences and like the crazy shit that you actually live through. It's like a very clear path towards monetizing that. Yes. It's hip-hop history. And it's amazing that the youngsters, the culture has been. embraced especially my stories, you know. And speaking of Jay-Z, he's a billionaire now. And I remember

when I was 35 years old and he had came up with his first single. And we hired him to do my birthday party in New York City and Manhattan. And we gave him $1,500. And what year are we talking? This is 1995. So this is reasonable doubt just came out? Reasonable doubt. Yep, 1995. And he was late. But I always took relationships and blossomed. The next thing I knew, me, Jay-Z, Damien, Dave, we were always going on tour. Right. You know, and we was doing little club dates.

How the artists do it now. We're doing club dates all over the world. But I could tell you this, ladies, gentlemen, and I was witness. Jay-Z and Damon Davis missed a lot of money on the table. What do you mean by that? Because they were partied nights before and missed a flight and not make it to the venue.

I'm already there. So Jay was part of it. Hardying hard enough that he wasn't necessarily able to stay on top of his business? I was there. He was missing flights to a show. That's not how we think of Jay now. Exactly. But believe it in that, I used to be late to all my shows back in the day.

And believe it or that, that's how D.L. Hugley got his break because I used to put him on certain shows. Right. And by me coming late, the owner started like D.L. You should host this. TK. is always late, et cetera, et cetera. And that's the way it went down. Was that sort of like a. a norm at the time that it was just sort of normal to not really care as much. I think it's irresponsibility, not really knowing. And as you get older, you understand about being

on time, being respected, having accountability for your actions. And you don't want to leave money on tape. You want people to respect you. That's my thing. All the stuff I do, I want to walk in the room and be respected. That's the key. Handle things the right way, regardless of what the easy way is. Yeah. You're going to handle things. right way you want to be a man's man and that's the way and I hold people accountable that's the way I move through life you know I make sure that if you a man we we talk about man things all the way down to the demasculent of the black man so to speak right like I'm upset about um Farrell being on the magazine with a fucking dress

on right and I read the article he's talking about this the new masculinity right you know that kind of shit motherfucker bothers me like And I'm not against the gay culture. I just want people understand. I'm not against. They do fuck what you want to do. But I want to raise young, strong black men, young strong women in this universe as well.

And if that's what I want to do, you have to allow me to do what I want to do instead of say, oh, I'm bashing towards this. That's not what I'm about. It just feels like we've gotten to a point where it's like, why do we need to treat a dude like a hero for wearing a dress? What the fuck, yo?

Who fucking cares? Like, if you want to wear some goofy-ass outfit, fucking go for it. Go for it. But why are we going to act like it's a fucking honorable act? And like, the other day I was watching this commercial that came out, and it's like the whole thing is just different scenes of different, like, you know, it's like a trans girl or whatever.

She's rapping her tits up. So she looks more like a dude and there's like gay couples doing whatever. Right. And then there's just a Sprite logo at the end. What the fuck? This whole thing was a Sprite ad. And I'm like Sprite. Listen, like, it's a beautiful thing that gave people feel so much more comfortable being

themselves and society from my perspective. Yes, sir. It has absolutely nothing to do with your soft drink. Right. We don't believe you. And here's what I find amazing. I talked about Cam Newton on the breakfast club, but I wanted to go. Shit went insane.

So many women, women hit me on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, congratulating me on. I'm bringing this up because our women, black, white, whatever, they're confused. They don't know what kind of man to deal with. They don't know how to go about it because they're telling me it's an epidemic. Right.

They have a school in Europe that they are trying to teach men how to fucking fix attire. I'm not bullshit. I was at a hotel and talking to these gentlemen. They have a school to teach men how to be men. They had the clothes. the motherfucker down because it was doing bad.

Right. Men don't even know how to fix a tire. Uh-huh. Don't you feel like we've... It's crazy. We've somehow ended up in this weird space where it's like, where women feel the need to have careers to the same extent that men do, just because that's how it's supposed to be,

is you're supposed to be the super hardworking, career-minded individual. a lot of these women that I know who are like the most busy career-based women they really to me seem like deep within themselves they want to have kids instead of family but they refuse to listen to that voice inside of them so instead they drive themselves miserable working fucking 70 hours a week and it has so many levels to disaster there if you do your research on that right a lot of women die of heart attacks a lot of people don't think about that the heart attack rate for women career women who are busting their ass is at one of the highest levels of all time because women are not normally there to carry that type of pressure, that type of weight. So they're out there busting their ass and doing certain things. Now, the value of a man, let's call it. It's just like any other thing where most some men don't appreciate when they are the leader. So that has declined over the years, you know, where man's supposed to be the breadwinner of the home.

And we have just gotten off in so many different directions what man think he should be. So everybody's fucking winging it, trying to do their own thing and trying to figure it out. And what I want to bring back is tradition. And what I want to bring back is men be men, man's man. If you can't handle being with the woman, then you're not qualified. You've got to be qualified. You ever heard about Jordan Peterson? The name sounds familiar.

He's basically like this Canadian philosopher or whatever. And he talks about a lot of these things. He talks a lot to, he has a huge, massive audience of like young men who basically he talks, he talks a lot about cleaning your room, which is basically a metaphor for like, you need to have everything in order in your own life before you go out into the world and try to make change on the rest of the world.

And it's like a lot of guys, like when you think about keeping your room clean, like what you were saying about the car earlier, it's like it's not that important. Like there's no real importance to it. But knowing that your room's clean, knowing that everything is in order in your life before you go out into the world, it's like he just talks a lot about how taking on the responsibility of whether it's having children or starting a family or having a really good career or taking care of. remember your family how that discipline will eventually will make you a better person it will make you a

better responsibility and in this message that he has so controversial with the people on the left who really are almost offended by the idea of a guy telling young men that they need to get their shit together you got to be kidding me it's so controversial they talk about him like he's a fucking nazi bro you got to be kidding me i swear it'd be really interesting for you to check a shit out because I think you'd like it a lot. Yeah, this is, you understand what I'm saying? This is, what the fuck is going on? And he has this massive following, millions of people,

subscribers on YouTube, Twitter, whatever, just off of him really sort of talking about how a young man, and to an extent, like a young woman, should pursue their life and how they should take their life serious. You have to be, what I've learned in life, because I always tell people, I always had a bad bitch breathing on me since I was 11. I always kept a good, gorgeous bitch in my life, right?

And I always had money ever since I was 11. Always hair paper. You've got to be qualified young men. If your money's not right, don't even say hello to a female. That's the point that I want to go. Now imagine, I always thought about it, and I was going to put this in my act, if I ran for president, right? And one of the laws I would have is that you truly had to be qualified to date.

Now imagine now, since you was a child, your parents are telling you, you want you to date one day. you're going to have a beautiful one but you got to make sure you have your money. Imagine growing 18, 19 years old and the permit to date, you've got to have 25,000 in your account. Right. And you say yourself to your homie, yo, next year I'm going to be fucking, yo, I'm 3,000 away. I was just like the mental idea of like the cops kicking in your door and being like, this guy's getting pussy with 10 grand in the back.

Exactly. Hell no. Fill the prison. Exactly. me, but it will motivate you because I told you sex is powerful if it falls into the wrong end. Sex, drugs, these things fall into the category of things that you at 18, you really have no business even thinking about doing, in my opinion, because you haven't accomplished anything

in your life yet. It's like, don't worry about getting some pussy when you're 18. You need to be worried about figuring out what the-comishments. Getting some shit done. And let me tell you, I'm starting to rob. I tell that to people. You know what tracks a woman? When you have accomplishments.

When you sit in there talking, you say, oh, yeah, I graduated in college. I started my own podcast. I started this, I started that. A real fucking female, it's going to be turned the fuck on. Seen it a million times. You start listing off all the shit you've done and shit.

Accomplishments. But now I have the problem where I'm 35 and I just don't even feel right talking about all the shit I do. It's like too much. Like I have to avoid when I'm in a conversation with a person for the first time.

I have to avoid turning every conversation into, oh yeah, I interviewed him. He was telling me about what, right, right. I have to actually try to avoid mentioning the interview and just be like, yeah, actually, you know, one time I heard him say this. Yeah, but what you should do is not even let nobody know what you do.

And figure out, I'm giving an example. Don't you love that? I snatched a female out once. in Atlanta and I said oh we're gonna go to this comedy show to see TK.K. Kirtclan watch what I'm about to tell you

the bitch didn't even know it was me. Wow. We're sitting in the audience having drinks. Like people getting ready to say something I'm doing this. This is a G move. I want the one I want to know.

We're sitting there, got the table everything's kicking it, some fly shit about to go down. Right. And ladies and gentlemen coming to the stage, one of the most phenomenal standard comedians

in the game. Put your hands together with T.K. Kirkland. She is clapping her ass. I love him. I love him. And I get up and just walk to the stage. And she melts. Oh. Ah.

One of the greatest fucking feelings ever. Or I remember being in Vegas. I'm one of them to humble guys. I'm in the lobby. A lot of people don't know who I am. I'm on tour with Mike Apps. We're doing a show in Vegas. Right.

One of the baddest motherfucking women walking around is online. She was with another young lady. I can I buy you a drink? Bushing me off. That's cool. You know, whatever. When I was done with that show, I wound up fucking her. It was one of the greatest accomplishments a man could ever witness.

It was just a beautiful night. I'll never forget that. Never forget that. It was just awesome. That's a beautiful thing. Yeah. It's a beautiful. thing. Yeah, I mean,

have you ever been, what's your most long-term relationship and do you feel like I'll ever get into one again or are you happy just living a single life? Here's the thing about I take it one day at a time. Okay. That's where I'm at in my life. I'm married to this entertainment game.

Like I said, I don't know my accomplice and what I've accomplished until I sit down and people tell me what I'm doing. I'm already working on stuff for 22, 2022, 2022, 23, 2025. I'm that far ahead. My job is extremely hard.

If I find a woman that really understands or someone that truly excites me because there's so many things to dating, right? People don't understand there's levels to dating. When you go over someone's house, are you comfortable? When you kiss a woman, does your dick get hard? When you fuck her, is she emotional? She's screaming loud. Does she come like a, like somebody is getting shot?

Like things, those type of things are important to me. Do you feel like being this deep into your life that your list of things that you don't like has almost become so expansive that it's going to be hard for you to find anybody that just doesn't tick that many of those boxes? It may not. My sex life, right, from being a player to holding myself accountable and being responsible has truly gone from, 10 to under 1. Okay. So you slowed it down a lot. Oh shit. It's a come to a fucking halt. A halt.

Why a halt? It's done. You fell out of love with the game? My sex game is zero. Why? Because I'm that busy. I don't lay up with any women anymore. I got three kids from a one-night stand. Three? Three.

From a one... You had sex one time and you got three kids? Three kids. She had triplets? No. Three different women. Oh. Oh, three different one-night stands. God damn. Three. That's serious shit.

I thank God that I don't believe in up above that he fucking protected me from that, man. Man, when I think back now to that, and I remember one of my people was talking about my shit got a vasectomy. And that's when I had my first. So he said, oh, you should get a phecum. You got one? No, never got one. Oh, okay. And I was like, fuck, something that I thought about.

Because as you get older, if you got a baby mama here, baby mama there, and you're successful man all the kids are not getting the true knowledge of the dad because this mother thinks one way this mother thinks one way so if someone is seeing like

they're getting more than the other depending on that mother's mentality is jealousy towards their child not knowing there could be distance in between those two meaning you're on the other side of the country you just can't do something within an hour because you're so far away

or to understand that when you want something from your father, right? You've got to be not passive-aggressive. You got to know that's your dad. Ask for it. You either get a yes or no, but you can't be shy to ask if you think your father is doing well. All my children should be able to come to me and ask you the stuff. So one of my books I'm going to do, I'm going to call it one.

O-N-E. And I want to teach men, especially people who are listening on the show, to try to have a child with one person, women and men. Women got to stop having three or four baby daddies. You got one dad bringing in gifts for his son or daughter, but the other two dadies ain't shit. That's going to get complicated. It's complicated.

Or if that father thinks he's paying for all the other children. I'm giving you all this month I'm paying child support but your other two baby daddies ain't shit so the money he's given is helping the other kids so you when you grow up you got really

brush your shoulders off and just fuck it you know like I heard a story yesterday about a man was taking care of a child for 19 years about that it wasn't his baby wow just doesn't give a fuck about life no more

Yeah, I had a... I was friends with the guy who that happened to him, and he fucking... He hung himself. Because he was taking care of this kid for a couple of years, and then he figured it out. Wow. And when I was really trying to sit back and think about how he probably felt in that moment,

I'm like, you know, I never thought about killing myself, but that's some kill yourself-ass shit right there. Yeah. Think about how that must have felt. How strongly you feel towards your seed. Right. And then finding out that you... you've been bamboozled this whole way man i feel that that's like almost making me and on

inside i got watered my eyes right because that kind of makes you think and this is one thing that stands out to me a lot as like as you go through life you're just taking damage and you're lucky if you can make it to your age and not have had stuff happen to you that's so devastating that it fucks your ability to just have a normal conversation and be a normal communicative person because I mean, you know, just an example that we were discussed the other day, you have a kid and then the kid all of a sudden

is 18 and we're talking about this girl who was like raped and murdered at a high school party. And I'm like, dude, think about you're her dad. That stuff was going on the news? It was something that was in the news from like a couple years ago or something like that we were talking about but I'm like, think about being that dad.

How do you go back to being a normal dude after that? You just spent 18 years of your life raising that girl and then she was killed in the most brutal way, the most random situation that you never could have protected against in a million years. How do you put on a fucking happy face after that? How do you keep going? Being a parent, being grown in general is one of the most hardest things you could imagine.

That's why I tell children, especially my daughters, stay young, don't try to grow up. You know, you hear kids talk about school is hard or I'm stressed and you're not ready for life if you're talking like this because you got to be prepared for them bumps coming up in this motherfucker because nobody life is truly that smooth

you got to really be prepared for almost everything I was taught one thing from a young man he always said he called it unforeseen occurrences even when you're prepared you're not really prepared but you got to think about

unforeseen occurrences. What if? I always teach people. Always say what if. What if I didn't have life insurance? What if my girlfriend cheats on me? What if I do this? So you have it in your mind just in case it comes across your table.

You thought about it in so many different ways that mentally that you almost prepared were you wasn't surprised. Because one of the hardest thing is when something surprises you. That's what it really hurts. That you never consider the possibility. consider it like never consider it you so your mind you got to keep your mind active you got to keep your mind going and always stay in control always have composure and that takes time and ladies and gentlemen what we're talking about is not something it can happen in a week a month takes years of practice so when i think about all my experiences from crime college um businesses to this moment right here

has taught me how to be a great man, how to be respectful, how to be a great dad, how to be a great in relationships. These are experiences. And you have choices. You can either choose to be a fucked up person for the rest of your life, or you could choose to say, I want to become a great man. And these are the things I am going to do to become a great man. The question is how you take all of your experiences.

Like we all have been, you know, at different positions in our life where we felt like, like, when you were a younger man, you felt like violence was a lot cooler, more acceptable, et cetera, than you do right now. Nowadays, you understand the gravity of those actions much more. Same thing for me. But how do you have a son and raise him in such a way that he doesn't wake up one day and think that he wants to walk around with a gun on him? that he thinks it's tight to go and get in a fist fight with somebody or whatever. It's like how do you raise your kids so that he doesn't end up attracted to the same bullshit that you were attracted to? My parents made it very clear to me that crime was bad.

That bad things were bad, basically. I don't know what it was about the way that they tried to communicate that message to me, but it didn't really take. Well, what you're saying is very important. And what a lot of people lack is putting their kids in activities. It's the key, my man. There's no free time for your mind to wander over. No free time.

You've got to be in activities whether it's football, whether it's karate, or there's basketball. You have to have activities because kids are influenced by their friends. So if you've got great athletes around you, guess what? That rubs off on you.

It's embedded in you for the rest of your life championship. I got to win. You are, college in sports teaches you to win. Now, if you're around just regular people who don't know about ambition, because when you're taught in sports, your coach teaches you, we're going to win that race. You work harder. You do extra push-ups.

You do everything because you're in competition. You want to beat that team or you want to beat that person in 100-yard dash or the mile. So your mind trains you to defeat that person where you say, you take the same principles in life and you use that to achieve every day. The problem is that we all know a lot of girls who their parents basically brought them up to be Catholic fucking virgin saints. Yes. And then they're just hoeing it up. Yes.

As soon as they get a chance. And there's nothing wrong with hoeing. No, yeah. See, the Kardashians will teach you that. I mean, listen, if you're fucking with an objective, then as a woman, if you know how to use, the weapon of your own sex appeal then that's the most valuable thing you have but you have to wield it so carefully I tell people it's called managing your pussy you gotta know how to manage your pussy just like men got know how to manage their

dick so you can't sling dick all the time one it wears you out gets you tired you gotta you want to you want to you want to have quality sexual relationships when the time is right now in your 20s half fun but don't have no children because you're not qualified to raise a family. And I hate to hear young men say, oh, I'm selling down

and you're 22 years old. Let me tell you people, what's the definition of settling down? You've done everything. Yeah. And you're tired. Settled down at 22. The fuck, yo. You don't know shit. Don't know nothing. You need to be in school or reading

a book. Traveling on the beach and Turs and Caicos. Go learn something. the man oh man turks and kakos at 22 i wish i'd have known about that type of shit listen i don't know to what extent you know about how crazy the game has gotten because these chicks are so empowered they turn 18 or 19 now and they just start a private snapchat or they start our only fans and all a sudden they're selling nudes out the dms some percentage of them start escort and some percentage of them start you know doing whatever doing porn it's just so easy for girls to jump into this now

that the game has completely changed where it used to be this really sort of like you know antisocial like weird thing to get into to go and become a stripper yeah escort or whatever so much of that stigma is gone yeah shit has changed so much and you know what is I call it morals what's your morals you gotta have morals to stand on to live by principles to live by for the rest of your life and What I tell people, it goes all the way down to, believe me or not, you know, talking about people in the black community, when you get people that spoke, they'll say, oh, Christianity was created for to control the slaves.

But when I sit down, look at the world right now, religion is pretty much one of the greatest things that ever happened to man, because we have to be controlled. So what Lyndon Johnson did in the 50s, you know, he passed a five, 501c3. Are you familiar with that? No. 511C3 was a law that the government passed for pastors, all of them. Once you sign it, you don't have to pay taxes for your church. In return, you can't talk about the presidential election. You can't talk about abortion.

And you can't talk about the gay community. So if a church isn't paying taxes, then the church, if a church isn't paying taxes, than that church also cannot advocate for a presidential candidate? Exactly. I'm assuming there's a lot of churches out there that are basically saying vote for Trump or whatever. Yes, but a guarantee is on the low. Right, they have to kind of be shady and subtle about it. 501C3.

Interesting. And this is what, when I hear people say they're gay or they're feminine and they think it was their choice, the government already knew in the 50s it was going to lead to this. That's why I was trying to teach people to read and know what's going on. It wasn't your choice. It was set up by design because that's how powerful the churches are. But do you think being gay is a choice?

Oh, definitely. It's a choice. Oh, absolutely. I would think that for the most part, it seems like the scientific community has ruled against that. Watch what I'm about to tell you, right? Right. Ain't dismal any of gay people on earth.

I'm older than you. I've seen a lot of shit. You can't tell me women who have five fucking children all of a sudden want to be with another woman's choice. Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of people are born gay, but I think that you definitely can clearly make the choice to be at least bisexual. Like, you see girls all the time. Yeah, girls will be bad. That's a choice.

And most young men like that. I can't do that shit. Right. My heart. Now, I came up a play. You know, fuck five women at one time. But you don't like them hooking up with each other? When I was younger.

Right. Yes. When I was younger, I probably had threesome and two. Two-somes, you know, maybe five, seven times. Two people having, two people having sex. Yeah, well, me, no, two girls and me. But they, they wasn't touching each other. That's a threesome.

Yeah, they'll just sit and wait to they turn, you know. One of my greatest achievements in that was I remember being in Michigan and I fucked five doctors at the same time. True story. Doctors. They came to one of my shows, and my show was so phenomenal. Right. So I wound up, we wound up going to my hotel, we was drinking, and they all waited while I fucked all five of them. Wow. Now,

irresponsible, I ain't have a condom on. Two of them got pregnant. And they had the baby? No, hell no. Neither of them did. One got on a abortion because her husband was a cop, but she was cheating on them. The other girl was wanted to keep the baby, but she had a miscarriage. And no disrespect. That's the only time in my life I was, thank God. Yeah. That a girl ain't having a motherfucker kid because she was driving me crazy because she even had the baby.

How many nuts are you busting that two different girls got pregnant? Well, it goes to show you how fucking phenomenal, right? But you're nutting in them? Yeah, that's what I did. See, white people, y'all come in a bitch face and all that. Men, black men, like, they got right there with glassy, lazy. Because hip muscles is, hip muscles. Hip muscles is lazy.

You can't pull out. When you young, your hip muscles, when you're young, right, it's something about your cartilage and your hip muscles. I'm not going to lie. You can't come out. I know a lot of black dudes who I've had this conversation with who are basically like, oh, you pull out, you're bugging.

Yeah, no, you gotta put shit. That's one thing I can say about white men. Y'all will pull the fuck out in a minute. Come all in a woman's faith. And what's funny, and the girl, we take a, nah, nah, nah, nah. So you don't think black women enjoy the facial? They do, they do. You know, I've never seen it in real life.

Right. On porn, yeah. You do that shit in real life. To bitch, you're getting stabbed. Come in a bitch. face and I'm telling you it ain't no cameras around right bitch stabbing you that's crazy that you're so old that you probably like remember when a lot of sexual shit came out like you remember when coming on a bitch's face came out oh absolutely that's crazy I remember women had hair on their pussy oh they still do sometimes

yeah I'm talking about no afros oh okay air puffs yeah I'm talking about women hair so nappy you think was continents like bitch how many continents is on your pussy yeah when they just let it grow all That is insane. It's insane. How could you? Yeah, it's insane. You know, and at first, as being older, when a woman did cut all the hair off, you felt you was a child one that's like, bitch, you're not a child. You're not a baby.

Grow some fuzz, bitch. But then once you get used to it, you're just like, it looks normal and it's very hygienic and you don't get any hair and your teeth. And believe it or not, it's only been about 15 years they started this. It ain't like this a long thing. Are you shaved, ma'am? She like the fuck for people. She doesn't acknowledge having a sexual life. Ma'am, or do you shave?

As far as I know, I've never heard of acknowledge yourself in that realm. That's hilarious. So, you know, that's it. But all that leads to just doing great things. Like the podcast, the T.K. Kirkland podcast. Shout out to Charlemagne, the guy. He's my executive producer on it. Right.

So he got you in the game. He got me in the game. And it was because I never wanted to do the breakfast club. Really? Because I knew them. I watched you doing this for them. I knew them. I knew them since they were kids.

And me and Charlamagne go way back to Wendy Williams when I was on the show with Wendy Williams. And my son said to me one day, he said, Dad, you should do the breakfast club. I can't do it no more. That's how I was. Right. And because of him, I wound up doing it. And when I first was on there about four, five years ago, when I was on the air, I was like, when did you blow up? Because I was in my own world.

I was even thinking about them. And bam, my numbers was in the millions on the show. And Charlie was like, yo, you should do a podcast. I didn't even know what the fuck a podcast was. Right. I would go around and talking to people and say, they want me to do some iPod.

iPod. What the fuck is this shit? iPod shit. What do you think? Do you think that they get along? That's the big rumor is that everybody in the breakfast club hates each other now. I think anything in life, are you there long enough?

Right. you're going to have some type of difficulty because if you don't have leadership, something's going to fold. Right. You've got to have, no matter what, from football to basketball, the swim team, even the breakfast club. You've got to have a leader that keeps everything together. But you got to have a lead. Do you think that they've ever acknowledged Charlemagne as being the leader?

It feels like if anything, they think of it as being three equal parts. I think they think at three equal parts and I think everybody's in their own lane. Like I have a relationship with all three of them and I really should

because of who I am put them all in the room and have a conversation with them and explain to them how this shit is going to go. You know, it might take an OG like myself if there is an issue

to sit them all in the room and explain to them how this shit's going to go. That's like even Kaepernick yesterday this weekend. When I see that story it hurts my feelings the fact that he pulled out of the workout the fact that he pulled out of the

workout see because when somebody advised you into their home it ain't about your motherfucking rules if i came to your house i can't tell you what to cook unless you asked me right i can't come your house to tell you about i need you to change the furniture sure a fucking house right so when you do that and know everybody shows up and you switch to the the the training spot to another facility at the last minute that's you're showing that you don't care. And I mean, we're talking about the NFL who everybody acknowledges and knows

that you play by their rules. You got to play by their rules. All that strong shit is good, but a motherfucking South Central right now ain't giving the fuck you took a kneel. A cop that's getting a shoot a young man right now, don't give a fuck. You kneeled.

You got to think of yourself to a little bit, The goal is get your money, stay powerful, still do things in the community. You still can do, you still can help people with the NFL behind you. But when you do that, it shows that you're going to start that bullshit again. Right. And like I said earlier, when we say, there's a group of college bitches graduating June. There's a group of young quarterbacks coming out. Why the fuck would they want to put up with you at 35 years old?

I mean, you probably know more about football than me and everything. thing too but what if the end result of this whole Kaepernick thing is that none of the teams are all that interested in him as a player and they see him as a big ass liability because none of these teams wants to basically get embroiled in some scandal where they're getting called racist or where he's treating himself like he's so big and important that he can't just be a regular part of the team like if it's like because the whole thing was about him wanting to get his own camera crew in right right right and his own receivers you know when you play for the NFL or if you're you're You want to play for the NFL.

You go do what you got to do. They're in charge of the cameras. That's what I'm saying. You show up and put it in work. Yeah, right. It's their home. It's not your shit. Yeah.

It's the NFL. They don't need you. Yeah. Let's make sure we're clear here. You ain't Tom Brady. Right. You ain't my homes. You don't have no Super Bowl rings under your belt.

You got to play by the game, yo. I always tell people play the hand that you dealt. You're supposed to go in there, do what you got to do. get the job because the people me you or everybody wanted to see him get the job for what you did kneeling for Afro-Americans and people of injustice but to go do this shit

like that's it was wrong I wonder if the tide will ever like fully turned against Skappernet you think it's over Oh it's a rap well I mean I guess it depends on where it goes from here Because if he doesn't end up playing in the NFL Everybody's going to look at this moment as the pivotal thing that Yeah they're going to say everybody knows he fucked up Al Shopton was talking about

he did the right thing fuck Al Shopton I said to his face fuck that motherfucker him and Jesse Jackson how that what they do the Afro-Americans

Why would you think they're? Because you know what they do like when there's a crisis they go to the companies and get a check they do motherfuckers they walk out with a check

what do they get a check they get a check to keep quiet he got his MSNBC because of a scandal and his part of his deal was they had to put him on a show. Al Shopton don't deserve no

motherfucking MSNBC show. I don't give a fuck, you know? It takes people like me the whole motherfuckers accountable. I'm just keeping it real. You know, I'm not trying to hurt nobody. I'm not trying to throw anybody on the bus, but I'm tired of all this bullshit is fucks with my people.

They're way of thinking. You know, their conspiracy theories and all that instead of just dealing with the facts. And Al Shopton was wrong for saying that shit about on Kaepernick the man was wrong he should have did what the fuck he had to do jZ and roger godell made it possible for him to do that go in there do your thing and let the chips fall where they may i mean when you think about cabernick's whole struggle here it's very much sort of it's representative of younger people versus older people because the NFL is very much a

conservative old-fashioned organization where it's like everybody else to just fall in line and do their job and then Kaepernick's whole attitude has sort of been more about himself and more about you know expressing his uh you know political message which is clearly on behalf of his people yes but it's very hard to be that sort of individualist person inside of such a conservative strict organization is he does not own the NFL right and you are dispendable get somebody else let me ask you this though back to the breakfast club thing do you think the Charlemagne was wrong for going and doing an interview with Gucci Maine when he knew that his co-host, Angel E. had smoke with Gucci. On principle, I didn't know about it until

I was brought up to my son. He told me about it. The way Guiche, the way Charlamain did that interview, I would have to ask him, because I'm not too much, pretty much in that world. The thing that bothered me, though, what he was saying to Charlemagne, that bitch, that bitch, and I felt Chaldemain should have checked him as a man. Like, yo, we're not going to call her a bitch. Because I've seen Charlaman checks so many random ass people too for say a bitch. And I'm just like, bro, this is hip-hop. If you've got an issue with somebody calling a woman a bitch,

then we got a whole lot of people that we got to talk about. You've got to hold everybody to that same standard. Right, right, right. But when Gucci is sitting there saying it about Angela, that is a clear foul because, you know, if you're saying it in that sort of condescending, like she's a bitch, like she's a piece of shit basically. You're saying that about my co-host

and Charlemagne doesn't say anything and he apparently flew across the country to go do this interview because she didn't want anything to do with this interview. Right, right. I mean, I understand how when you're Charlemagne and you're doing that interview and you don't want to be telling Gucci Man like, hey, don't call her a bitch. That's a little bit of an awkward position to put yourself in,

but it seems mandatory. Yeah, don't quite sure you probably had his reasons, but from my, the way I would have handled it, I'd like, yo, let's chill on that, fam. That's it, you know. But that's my man. I love him to death. He probably had to do what he had to do.

But I'm not going to let it happen on my watch. Right. It ain't happened on my watch. I only play them games. The weird thing about it, though, is could you imagine the breakfast club existing and continuing on with them having good on-screen, you know, energy and rapport, but then privately they don't fuck with each other at all? That's life.

And we all wonder if that is sort of the situation right now. It's life, Adam. that's the thing about life we just talk about it you got to be prepared for whatever comes your way you got to be able to deal with whatever comes your way and it's also what i say called control the temperature of the room and you control the temperature of the room i don't get along but we get a check we feed in our families we're feeding and it's a nice check i ain't fucking that up so we do what we got to do because guess what in all time things do heal right in time things do heal yeah because you see it all the time where like dudes are being a group a band

whatever they're in their 20s tempers run hot yes they break up and you know one of the great stories like that van hailing really so you know more about this white shit than me man hairling i don't know much about van havin this too what i'm telling you what i'm about to tell you the guy that with the blonde hair

that played the guitar uh what was the lead singer guys what was the least singer is eddie van hailing and then there's what the fuck is that guy's name he was the leader but he you think he was van hailing but van hailing was the guitar player I think I've seen him on Joe Rogan recently. I forget.

What's his name? What is it? David Lee. You thought David Lee was Van Halen, but he wasn't. Right. The egos on David Lee was so phenomenal, it broke up the group. Because David Lee thought he could do this by himself. That's always how it goes.

But they needed each other. They needed each other. NWA. When they broke up, they wasn't that powerful. Let me answer this though. Say that there was, you know, let's go purely hypothetical. Say when you were 40, you were part of a comedy group, you and

a couple of other guys, you were all super tight and you were going out touring all the time, whatever. And then one of the dudes in the group did the most false shit. He fucked your girl and he was talking shit about you behind your bag. All a bunch of shit that basically makes it like, that is a person you never want anything to do again with your life. Now, you're 60, 20 years gone by.

You never had a conversation with this person. But all of a there's a whole bunch of money available. You can go on the road for the next two weeks and make more money than you ever made going on tour, recreating this group. Is it easy for you to imagine that for the bag, you could go on tour, you only have to deal with this person when you're on stage.

Other than that, you're going to your hotel. Would you be able to put your personal hatred for this person aside? Because I think I could. If the money's right, let's go. Depends on how much time was in between what happened. That's why I gave it 20 years. Yeah, after 20 years, yeah.

You could do that. Because a lot of times all those things, you don't care about the girl you were fucking 20 years ago, right? It still can hurt. Yeah. You could think he's a bad person and still get up on stage and do your whole fucking act. Right, right, right. You still can get that money.

But that's what being grown and controlling the climate is all about. Can you still perform? Can you still be around people with that knot in your stomach? Some people can't handle the pressure. And I do feel like it would have some sort of negative impact on my soul. Yes, sir. Because I feel like the reason why I'm happy and energetic and full life every day is because I go into a place that I own and I make content that I'm excited about. And in a lot of ways, I don't know what it's like to have a fucking sort of miserable stomach churning, horrible experience where I go and make crap that I don't care about every day.

And I get paid well for it, but I don't like doing it. That's why I try to live a peaceful life. Like getting up early in the morning going for walks. I call it connecting with the earth, right? You get up early and you walk and you have solitude and just peace of mind. And you try to, I always tell people when you're well rested, you're not as angry as much. Oh, yeah. Things can't bother you as well when you're tired.

When you're tired, you're snappy. But you're well rested. You're like, okay, he's not a problem. I was thinking about that, like, when Michael Richards blew up his whole career. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. I bet he didn't get a good night's sleep the night before. I guarantee it. You know?

Yes. He didn't even have to be drunk. No. and gonna laugh at me I forgot who Michael Richards is Kramer from Seinfeld when he went on stage and started saying all the crazy N-word shit

I'm just thinking like when I saw that he wasn't a big comedian anyway though No yeah he was huge as Kramer And then his career was sort of But he still always had an audience And stuff because of his role He didn't have a he wasn't that big

It didn't care Yeah Yeah he was yeah Now the thing in life He had to be careful The goal is to have long jerry. I'm thankful that I've been doing stand-up comedy for 35 years. 35.

Working. A lot of people know me, a lot of people don't. But some people get into this business to be well-known. I was in the business to be just well-paid. That was my philosophy. Because my upbringing is college, but also street philosophy. And I was taught not to be seen. I was taught to stay low-key and flex occasionally.

That's the way I move, and I always do that. I don't rock a lot of jewelry. I don't do drive, push Rose Royces or Bentley's and all that kind of stuff. What I do is I live a modest life. I call it, matter of fact, farmer's mentality. Are you familiar with farmers' mentality? Not really. Well, I always tell people, farmers' mentality is that when you saw a farmer,

You see them in overalls, boots, dirty. But most farmers are baling. They're multi-millionaires. And people don't know that. And they live beautiful, they have beautiful vacation times, too. They really enjoy their lives. I like to go through life like that. I like to go through life every now and then.

Like, I'm getting dressed up Saturday for the Red Fox Award. Okay. I'm excited about throwing on a suit, a tux matter of fact, and going in there having an amazing time. Because believe it, I like getting dressed. But I travel so much that I don't like carrying a lot of dress shirts with me. My shoes with me. Coats and all that kind of stuff.

I think it would be so incredible to wear a suit every day. But there's just so much that comes with that, especially if you travel. Exactly. So you understand. You understand the truth. Let me tell you something. I have a beautiful job, but I work so much and thank you, everybody who thinks I'm an incredible stand-a-comedian. but that shit's rough.

That's rough. The other day I flew in home. I got in that 11 o'clock I was back on the plane at 6 a.m. That kind of rough. I feel like, you know, when you're 20, you feel like you've got all the time in the world. I'm 35. It's starting to really feel like, oh, shit.

Like, I might only have 30, 40, 50 years left on this planet. I've got to go hard. And that's a good way of looking at. My account used to always say that he loved the way I thought, because I think about death every day. I think about death maybe 100 times a day. Right. That cause I'm depressed, not because of suicide.

It was, I think of death because I know tomorrow's not promised to you, and I want to get so much accomplished. So it keeps me motivated knowing that any moment could be my last fucking moment. Yeah. So I do so many things so I could leave a legacy of my life when I'm gone. There's this and that and this and that and this. that's what's important to me yeah but i mean like as you get later into your life is like do you still feel that same sort of pressure to accomplish it and kill it or do you sort of feel a little

bit more resigned to like oh i need to just enjoy the quality of my experience i've already accomplished so much and let's be real working my ass off in my 20s might have got me somewhere but was i really enjoying my experience while i was there is good question And I could tell you, this lifestyle I have, it's the best hotels in the world, best cities in the world, beaches, yeah, gyms, looking at some of the most beautiful women in the world, if you had your choice to have sex,

you got some of the best pussy you can pick up anywhere in the world. I wouldn't trade for none in the world. The goal is, is to pace yourself, the goal is to get your rest, the goal is to be the best you could be on stage, become a little bit you could be on stage, become a great businessman. And hopefully whatever that you're looking for, you will find it. But you got to love yourself first.

You got to invest in you first. And I want to teach people just to stay extremely healthy so that you don't end up in the old folks home. And what I mean by that is, do your research on that too. Kids are putting their parents in old folks home at an alarming rate, right? Now, if your parents are sick, what these companies are doing now, they're asking your family for bank statements, what do you own, etc. And I'm going to do an episode on a podcast about it, how there's corruption within old folks on them. They're taking people's property and stealing it from the families.

And nobody has the money or the knowledge to fight them. And I want to put that out in the universe so that people can, as your family goes into these places, your parents. protect it that they don't take from you. Is that something you're like the idea of going to old folks? I'm like, my parents are about 68. Okay. And it is weird sitting here talking to you and thinking like, Jesus Christ, this guy's like eight years younger than my parents.

My parents seem so much fucking older than you. Yeah. I think God I have a young spirit. Yeah. I went so many bets. I think that every time I look at Trump, I don't like him, but I'm like, how the fuck is this guy this energetic and moving around? and talk it so much at that age but he's oh mentally oh he's falling apart mentally god damn if you watch a

video of him five 10 years ago it is like another fucking person it is crazy i i really think there's mental illness on his part oh yeah there's there's no doubt about his mental illness on his part i'm willing to believe almost anything even when they talk about him being on speed or whatever i think that theory's got some legs to me let me tell you my man i've never seen nothing like this before all my life but i want to um but one thing that's great about me is not I'm a father. So I'm going to get ready to pick up my daughter. And I got like an hour drive. And she's, my kids are very important. And I always try to, I'm the kind of dad. I don't wait until they get out of school. Okay. I like to be there 30 minutes, 40 minutes. So when they

walk out, I'm there. I don't want to call and say, our daddy's late. I'm going to be in a minute because I knew yesterday where I had to be. And I always try to be on time. That's called being accountable. That's called being responsible. That's called doing what you're supposed to do. without excuses. What area does your kid? Woodland Hills. Okay. So is there any extent to which in a place like Woodland Hills where you're expecting

that people are going to be well off, intelligent, smart, progressive, is there any extent to which they look at you as a big-ass black dude with tattoos and you feel any degree of skepticism from them? Or has that kind of dissolved? I go through life. I've never gave a fuck about that. Like, I don't really give a fuck about politics. I don't really give a fuck about the president.

I came up in the streets. I teach people to, don't worry about all that. Get your money, take care of your immediate family, love them, and really try to do the right thing. Let people like ourselves, our experiences, teach you from doing the wrong thing because some people get into these deep holes at them and never get out.

Right. They dig the hole so deep. They never make it back. Right. And I want my experiences to teach people don't get in that hole. Don't do it. But your kids, it's just like where they're growing up. How do you plan on teaching them about racism?

Because their experience with it's probably going to be a lot different than yours growing up. Yeah. The thing about racism, though, is one, I really want all my children to work for me. Let's start there, right? I think when people have children, you should put yourself in position to own your own. business that you don't send them into the universe for another man to hire your child. That's one. That's best case scenario, yeah.

Best case scenario. But also what if they come out, not one, you know. That's true, too. She wants to be a doctor. She wants to be a doctor. And I'm going to start talking to people about instead of going to college, going to get skills. See, because unless you truly know what the fuck you want to do, when you go through them college doors, don't go.

You are being in debt or your parents are being in debt. for the rest of their life because you wasn't sure. Right. So I'd rather for someone to have a skill knowing that you're always going to have a job. Skills are more important to me than agree because you can learn skill and create your own business. Because isn't the world crazy?

You've got to have a college degree to work for somebody else, but you don't need no degree to start your own business. Right. Do you at all worry that your kids might end up kind of boring or fucked up because they're going to grow up, with most of their amenities afforded, that they're not going to grow up poor? The thing that I wish the best,

and this is my honors of God true, that my kids grow up healthy, strong, and no mental illness. Or get on drugs and be strung out. Like I was thinking about that the other day. That's why for this whole year, I've been really, really busy, and my niche with my children

hasn't been as tight as it normally is, but I'm bringing it all back together because one of the things I don't ever want to feel is to be the successful, successful man and one kid is in rehab. This kid's homeless on the street. This person is beating up women. I don't want to be that kind of man.

All the shit that I talk around the world when people see reflection of me, I want them to go, whoa, TK did this thing. That's important to me. Yeah, I mean, I know, I know those dude who has hundreds of millions of dollars and his kid is like a heroin addict. Man. Or was a heroin addict.

Yeah. And I just always think about him and how he must feel that all the money in the world couldn't have saved that kid from wanting to go down that path. You got to keep your kids with you. You can't work hard and forget your children. Yeah. You got to roll tight like the Wayans family. Yeah. Yeah.

They keep their stuff together. Listen everybody, check me out. November 23rd in Atlanta, Georgia at the end. I'm ending his show. Because you got to go get the kid, right? Yeah, I go get the kid. I'll do anything to be my baby on time. Check me out at Emerald Club this weekend, November 23rd,

in Atlanta, Georgia, Kat Williams, young Jack. Young Jack does comedy or is performing? He just, he's being a presenter. Yeah, I'm truly excited about it. Make sure you get my special number one in the country, who raised you on, Amazon Prime, iTunes, the tk.network, and go to my Instagram at TK underscore Kirkland. You get $10 off to get the special.

And I'm just truly excited about where my life is. And I can't complain. I'm excited about where your life is too, because I feel like if anything, if I could be half as cool as you are at 59. Thank you, sir. I might have it all figured out. I'm going to be honest with you. I did not look at my questions once. Got really high before I came in here.

And we just had a fucking great conversation. I don't know exactly what the fuck we talked about. But that was great. Well, thank you. Thank you. I'm going to watch it back and be like, oh, yeah, that was pretty good. Yeah, I'm on next year when I come back and I like to do certain things once a year. So hopefully next year I'll come back.

I talked about my businesses and things that would get people involved in. And I'll be dropping my next special next year because I try to drop something every year. And my goal is I just outwork people. Do you ever been on Joe Rogan? No, I want to get on there. That would be a good one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got a connection on that.

Do we? I don't know. Somebody watching this probably does, right? Yeah, yeah. We got to figure it out because you're about the 10th person that has said to me, get on his show. To TK. y'all two together would be amazing. There's a lot of comics, but I don't know how many black comics he has or how many legendary old school black comments. I feel like that you two would just have the most ridiculous chill conversation. I can't even imagine. Yeah, I'm going to work on it. I'm going to, hope. Can we exchange numbers to that? Of course, yes. This ain't a one-stop shop.

I'd like to get to know people and build a friendship. I'm broing down with TK. Kirkland for life. My man. Appreciate you, bro. Massive thanks, TK., for coming through. No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world. Check us on YouTube, SoundCloud, iTunes. Like, comment, and subscribe, Nojumper.com if you want to support.

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