No Jumper - TommyGunz on Growing Up in the Central Valley, Being Black from a Mexican Hood & More

Episode Date: June 5, 2025

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No Jumper, coolest podcasts in the world. And today we're in here. Tapped in with my man, Tommy Guns. How you feeling like a villain, man? They know it's popping the fly baby mom's been tapping in. I'm feeling like myself today. Hey, me and a lot of other people feel pretty strongly that you're basically destined if things keep going well, if you keep pushing this line, if you keep going up,

that you're going to be one of the biggest rappers out of Southern California. although I don't know central okay so you're far enough north you're far enough north that it's counts as central california so what's the dividing line the dividing line is bakersfield right from baker'sfield all the ways up until stockton we'll claim stockton too you're gonna claim central valley i feel like stockton is northern california though like we've always referred to it as stockton yeah but stockton no my homies got family out there they'd be going over there that's still central valley stockton you're just trying to lock down stockton because they're high right now. We want to take credit for that shit too.

Shout out to Jaybo, man. I who tapped in. Hell, yeah. He's cracking with the kid. No, man, Jaybo's the goat right now. He's fucking... People always ask me, like, who's the hottest, like, rapper coming out of California? I'm like, unfortunately, he's six hours north of California. Wait, but so how far past Bakerfield are you? One hour? One hour, okay. So that's why, in my mind, you're still kind of Southern Southern California? But Palm Springs doesn't count in Southern California? I don't know. I barely, I'm not even going to lie. I heard, I didn't hear of Palm Springs until

I met Blanco 15. Exactly, because you and him, I got interested. introduced to you guys together through DJ Flip and I figured that you guys were from the same place and at first when he did his interview because he has a P well I don't know I just figured that you guys were together you seem like you were super tight so I at first when I met you guys I was like telling Flip I'm like y'all want to do an interview with them together and he was like yeah Tommy's like kind of trying to do his own thing because he feels like his story is like totally separate I'm like okay that makes sense yeah for sure hey but everyone does be telling me that they think that we know we know we just met off the rap shit me him and Pfei face all

met at the same date in the same studio right at the same time they just put the camera on us boom and we're viral everyone was saying like what he that was black he's white he's mexican it feels like there's some kind of energy there that there that you guys are all kind of coming up around the same time doing things a little bit different a little bit different swag yeah and and i feel like it's cool to see DJ flew because i like i've seen him experience a bunch of success during the sound cloud era and i've seen him just like keep grinding keep grinding and then to see him kind of like popping out and having a much of success with you guys is pretty dope yeah hell yeah shout to DJ flip man the show um okay so tell me a little bit about where exactly you grew up

and what it was like all right it's like in the middle of i say the exactly the middle of california right there in the middle of um fresno and baker'sfield all right everyone knows fresno everyone knows baker'sville so whenever i'm out here and i tell people where my from i don't even say pixley i say i'm from a place close to baker'sville because i know when they hear baker'sville they're going to recognize it right that's how small it is i if i just say pixie i'm have to waste 10 minutes explaining what the fuck that is. Exactly. Hey,

I'm from New Hampshire. So I always got to say, yeah, I'm like 45 minutes outside of Boston until a lot of people are like, oh, okay. Then they get the area. It kind of makes sense. I mean, not though. We're clueless about like, just clueless about like, just different parts of California in general.

Like if you're from L.A., you ain't really thinking about outside L.A. too much. And I kind of feel the same way for like all the major areas. Yeah, because if I'm keeping the G, whenever me and my homie talk about L.A., we consider like all of this L.A. Like, you know how everybody be like, like, Like the IE, the SUV or whatever, the valley and this and that. You just be saying LA, huh? As soon as we cross that grapevine, you're in LA too.

We're in LA. Oh, you're in LA. We texted. Oh, you're in LA. That could be anywhere to us. But then dudes from LA are like, no, I'm not from LA. I'm from Watts. I'm from Compton.

Yeah, exactly. I'm from Long Beach. Like, all these places that, like, if you're from not here, then you're kind of like lumping all these things together, you know? I'm learning right now. To the rest of the country, Snoop Dog is an L.A. rapper. Yeah.

He's in Long Beach, but who gives a fuck? He's a L. as far as they're concerned. That's true as fuck. Even for me. I'm not like, to me long, it's too close.

It's a half hour on the fucking freeway. It's the same shit. That's just nice out there too. Oh yeah, super nice. Love Long Beach. But,

okay, so where you were growing up, though, like, would you describe it as like a nice place or was a pretty rundown from your earliest days? Nah,

that shit small as fuck, man. That shit's like, if you search it up right now, you'll be shocked. The population like 3,000. Oh, shout to lush. That food passed by my hood.

He did. He said that after the mic check, his way to do some shit out there and he was like I'm gonna stop in pixley and he said he drove through there and he was like man it looks crazy out there like yeah you are a hardcore lush one supporter i've noticed that because i was watching another interview with you and you were showing him a bunch of love too that was a loke but i mean fool uh love he's gonna be so happy you said that no you say loke about a lot of stuff that is not literally loat related i'm glad you peeped that basically check it out like this you call a lot of things loked out you catch me lying and this

and that if i say i'm a logg just don't even ask no more because that's just my excuse to out of anything. It's only confusing, though, because you are black and from a Hispanic gang. So then when you start saying loks and stuff, we start thinking like, oh, is he kind of talking in crypt language? Oh, I didn't even think about that. You know what I mean by that? Like, I'm a loke.

Like, loked out. Like, you just young turned to. Crazy. Yeah. Yeah, just young attorney. Like, I don't give a fuck. No, I get it. But, uh, okay, so growing up out there, though, like, were both of your parents

around or what was the family dynamic? Like, no, my family, like, um, everybody spread out differently. Like, my mom passed away. And then my dad did. I don't know. I just grew up with my grandma, basically my grandma and my mom's best friend. She took care of me. I was fortunate enough to get swooped up by my mom's best friend that had kids with my real mom's nephew.

Really? So all of her kids were my blood cousins, but she was not my real mom. So your mom passed away at what age? When I was 10. When I was 10 years old. And did you guys have a really strong relationship before that? I'd say, hell yeah, but I got taken, you know, from foster care. I was in foster care?

And then was your dad on some, was your dad loked out? Because it sounds like, if he just did. Everyone would be surprised that when I say, half black, have Mexican, they think my dad's black, but it's not, it's actually the opposite.

My dad's, don't speak no English. Oh, really? I never talk to my dad. How me and you were talking right now? I never talked to my dad like this before. Are you serious? What's cracking?

What are you doing? Like, I never talked to that forever like that. But wait, so you got a black mom and a dad who's a Mexican guy that can't speak English, but how the hell they end up having a kid together? I know everybody would be wondering that.

Just off the lops? No, my mom's bilingual. Oh, okay, okay. She sees her. She used to work at the school. Holy shit. You're working at the school, so you know you gotta speak over the English.

Okay, okay. So, um, but was, like, would you consider yourself to have undergone, like, a huge amount of trauma when you were a young kid, losing your mom and your dad not being around, or are you generally, like, pretty content with being with your grandma? Like, so normal to me. I don't know why. It didn't start hitting until, like, around recently, I guess you say. Just not hitting just the realization, like, that ain't normal.

Just because you were around so many other kids that were dealing with fucked up family situations as well? That, too. And just, I didn't know. It was like to the point where you're just a kid and you're so innocent and you just don't even fucking know. Yeah. No, there's a lot of stuff like that.

I don't know. I would never be like too sad about it or this and that. So did it feel, did you go through a lot of suffering in the transition from living with your mom to living with your grandma and her friend or whatever? That's what I'm saying. It feels so natural. I feel like my story ain't as sad as most people because, yeah, I was in the,

I've been in foster care since I was three months, bro. Really? Three months old. So it wasn't like I got took from my mom and I was right there crying like, oh, my mom. I didn't know what the fuck was going on. You get me? I learned all this that I'm telling you when I was probably like eight.

How do you end up in foster care at three months? Was your mom just kind of living a wild lifestyle? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Type shit. And so she was kind of going back and forth, like she would have you for a while?

Basically, foster care was not supposed to be around her or whatever. But the lady that got me, her best friend, every summer, you know how you got two months off of school? She would be a G and drive me to Corcoran

and I would go see my mom for two months and she'll drop me off. So I would live with my mom for two months. She'll take me to church. She'll be doing hell of cool as shit, like regular as shit. And I just remember every time She would be mobbing around.

She had like a big ass tank with her and shit. Because every time I was here, she had those things in her nausea. She was sick. Oh, really? You know what I mean? So every time I was here, it would just be kind of like weird. I don't know.

I know she loved me because she would, man, she'll always be on my ass. She would be capping on me like. Or if I didn't listen to her and I would do something, she would lay on her bed and she couldn't really get a vicious. She had the tanks. She had a little BB gun. She would shoot my ass.

You serious? Like, I'll be like, she don't listen. I'll just feel like the little plastic ones though, you know? Shoot me in the ass. Boom, I feel that shit. Like, what the fuck? Holy shit, that's adapting right there. Like, well, I can't get up, so I got to do something.

Like, there's an old Simpsons episode. You probably see my brother. But he's got like a, you know, like to pick stuff up. He's got like the claw thing. Oh, I don't you're talking about it. It's kind of like that. But like the BB gun gets it done. Okay.

Were you always kind of like a happy, confident kid? Or were you, is this kind of just who you are now? Because I feel like you have a lot of energy about you. You got a good personality. I'm going to keep a jeet. I always been showing my whole life. That's what crazy. It is.

It's literally just this rap shit that made me like, well, basically it was me rapping in front of my older homie. Like, basically my big homie was like my inspiration, I guess you could say. So what's his name? His name's Jumbug from the hood, man. That food knows is cracking. But basically once when he confirmed that the rap shit was good, it just made me feel like, I don't know how to explain it.

Like a superstar, I guess you could say. Because this is the food that knows I do everything. So all these haters out here, everyone that don't support me, I could give a fuck. My big homie said is solid. So that's where all this confidence came from because he knows what. was really, he knows what's cracking with me for real, for real. So if he says that I'm good,

then I'm good, you know what I mean? But were you, was it the first thing that you were ever really good at rapping? Like, was that the first thing you ever got a lot of positive feedback for? Because I feel like for a lot of people, it's kind of like that. Sports too, okay. Yeah, sports. I used to play football. Everybody knows what, basketball, everything. Okay, so you were pretty talented?

Yeah, hell yeah. But did you ever think you were going to take it real seriously and go to college and play? Yeah, actually, that's what's crazy. I did think that. Oh, okay. I had a huddle account. My freshman year, I have highlight tapes on the fucking huddle. I was one of them foods If you play sports and you got huddle

You know what so if you got a highlight tape You had to create yourself I know one's gonna do that for you And no one's gonna do that shit for you You gotta go through like three hours of footage Picking every time you caught the ball Damn, so you made your own highlight real huh Yeah

That's dope But when did that dream start to fall apart Whenever I started smoking bud Oh really? That killed it for you? That killed your I'm gonna keep a jeez weird Like it started off like I started smoking the bud right And then I started smoking I'll be like damn, I'm smoking every, I'm smoking throughout school,

but then when it was time for practice summer camp, I would be right there doing everything else with everyone else, but I was getting high. You get me, we're like in seventh, eighth grade. No one's getting high like that. I'm getting high, I'm rolling the backwood like this, you get me? So when I'll pull up to practice, I'll be sometimes throwing up. Like, you know, when you're out of shape and you just try to go hike,

you're going to throw the fuck up where if you just get into an intense fight and you haven't worked out, fools know when you're adrenaline rushing too much, you just throw up. You don't even know why. You run hella fast, just throw up. No, that is real shit. And then after that, that. Basically, I got addicted to the weed, then I would go home,

and then I would see all the homies posted on the block. That's when I was figuring out, like, what Souranos are, what essays are, momming around, and I would see those who's posting, like, who gots the bud? I like, bud. Who gots bud? Those Sourreños posted down the block right there. Let me go with them. Right.

That's what I mean, like, the bud took me off. Like, it was literally the bud, though. So did you, like, you had the belief that you had to work hard, pursue sports, and that that was how you were going to make it in life? And then you slowly started to realize, like, well, shit, I don't got to work hard. I could just chill the fuck out and hang out with the homies. That's when you're in the eighth grade, you think you make a life decision because you're asking, paying no bills, you ain't paying no rent.

You're a kid. You're like, man, I'm going to just smoke, but. Yeah, no, that's real. I've seen a lot of people kind of go through that transformation or talk about that for sure. But, okay, so you wouldn't say that you were, like, fascinated by the streets from a young age or were you? Nah, not by the streets. I'm not going to lie, wasn't. I was literally fascinated by sports.

Like, ever since I was a little-ass kid, I'll be in the streets playing football with, with all my older cousins in the street, though, like in the concrete. Playing tackle football. on the concrete. But it was when you're out there. Tackle on the fucking concrete. Yeah, but it was like, how do I say this?

This is gonna probably go viral as fuck. But when you might, if you know, when you were black people and they're doing shit, they try to do it the best ever, bro, like they're not going to let nothing. Like basically it sounds vicious tackle on the concrete, but no one was getting tackled

because everyone was trying to do the best juke move. Like, those were hardly getting caught. Everyone was actually good as fuck. I'm a kid though. These were older, but. Because I'm picturing tackling somebody for real on the concrete.

Yeah, but they were just, it just happened. The ball was so swift. He wasn't getting tackled. You get me? Everyone was out there just, like, showing out. So, okay, but you are half black, half Mexican.

So at what point do you decide? Like, were you around black gangs or was it all Mexican shit around? I was not even around no gangs. I was just around black people, though. Like, my mom's black. I was raised in a black household. Uh-huh. I know everything.

I know those spices, those who's got in the cabinets. I know how it was lit. I know how feels to grow black, like dead ass. Right. But my homies are Mexican. But you were drawn to the Mexican dudes who are hanging out and stuff? Yeah. Why do you think that was?

Because I moved to pigs. And that was just what was around. All the kids are right there, they're all gang banging. Everybody's related to someone. Right. And so, like, were they super serious about shit? Did you get put on? Yeah.

Everybody knows what, man. Do you got to get put on story or what? I don't. I got a put on story, but my put on story basically just listen to my music, man. Straight up. Wait, what? So you talk about it in the music? I talk about it.

If you can just go listen to my music, you'll hear everything. Okay. For sure. Nothing go over your head. If you ever hear any song by me ever, when my name attached to it, just listen to it. Good. Like, I don't waste no time in the studio. I'm telling you, I'll be saying shit that makes you like second guess or just lingo that no one ever understands.

Right. Because everybody says, like, I don't hear it myself, but I talk like normal as fuck. I'm not, I'm black. I look black, but I talk like myself. Like, everybody says I talk like, I got an accent or whatever, but I'm literally just being myself. Like, nothing stops me from being myself. I may look, this and that, but I can act so cool and be in these interviews and be doing this and that because I'm solid in my hood. I don't have to, I already got all the face.

Tats. I already got everything. Now I could literally just be like regular guy. Right. You know what I'm saying? I could smoke this blunt here. I don't have to be in my neighborhood doing this and that. People can't see it on camera right now, but it says Pixler. Pixonetto. So is that the combination of Pixley where you're from? And then it's just like Pixoneiro like. It's just a Pixoneiro like. Oh, okay. That's just a dude from there. Well, where are you from New Hampshire? New Hampshire Netto. You know what I'm saying like that. That's basically what that means from Pigsley. I'm going to ride with that. That's very cool. I like it. All the homies know what stuff. They had that.

at all to like everything definitely so okay what what age was that though when you really started hanging out like that when i really started hanging out like 14 i ain't gonna lie 14 so how long so you dropped out of school i dropped out of school when i was probably like 16 i had a baby when i was 15 years old really yeah my daughter's five years old right now her name's everly was it with a random chick or someone you were in a serious relationship was my it was my girl through all high school i didn't have the high school experience where i was fucking all these holes and doing this now i was the same girl high school got her prank basically damn this shit's a trip this should to go viral right here. When I got my first taste of

pussy, when I lost my Virginia, I got her pregnant. That's the first time? The first time, like, holy shit. Dead ass, bro. My first time hitting it, I was like, damn, this is going to be my girl, everything. You know what I'm saying? I made the baby mom my first day I got to high school, bro. See, I like a guy with commitment. You know? Fuck running around in the streets with all these random scallywags. Just find one girl, fuck her one time and have one baby. That's how it's supposed to be.

That's the singularity right there. I like it. Um, but okay, did that change your life a lot? or did you get really involved as a dad? Yeah, hell yeah. She knows what stuff. Like I can still call it right now. Everything's good. Like, you see how I'd be out here doing all this and all these females and this and that? You wonder how I'm still mentally good?

Yeah. Because she knows it's cracking night. She remembers all those nights. She'll wake me up at 3 a.m. I'll make the bottle. I'll never say no. I never said no to change in the diaper. I never said no to change in the bottle.

I never been that fool trying to go to sleep. I got shit to do in the morning. Be like, tell the baby to shut the fuck up. That's a burn ass you. You're going to what I'm saying? I didn't seen at all. That's your one kid, though? Yeah, that's my one kid.

How often you see them? As much as I want, but when I be out here on this road, that should get hectic. Okay, so when you're in your hometown, it's cool. Oh, yeah, when I'm hometown, I can call her never. That's what I'm saying. She has that certain level of respect for me because she knows I'm good dad, you know? You can't take that way from knowing. She would probably feel guilty her damn stuff if she did that because she knows it's cracking.

I saw a story that went viral about this dude Dave Portnoe who owns Barstool Sports. And he said that, like, his wife that he was with when he was broke, when he was struggling, trying to make it, that now that he's super rich, he's like damn near a billionaire. His wife has access to his bank account still, even though they haven't been together for mad years. Would you allow your baby mama to have access to your bank account?

Damn, if I'm keeping a G. Can you trust her like that? If I'm keeping a G, I feel like I could. Right. Straight up. Really? I ain't even going to lie. I'm going to keep a G.

Straight up, no matter how many huds I lose. Straight up. She would do. I feel like I don't think she would do me grind me I feel like most of the people out there can't really relate to that I think she got too much respect for me she would not do that I but the thing is is that this fool is so rich that if the girl wants to go on a fucking 50,000 dollar shopping spree I don't think he's not missing it and he trusts her enough to not like OD and go

crazy and steal 20 million from him but if she took 20 million it wouldn't be that big a deal to him it's his ex-wife now yeah no bro's burn yeah that's crazy right because like what if she just has a bad day when she becomes a smoker He's probably, he knows it well enough to know that that's probably not going to happen. He's going to happen. No, that's not going to happen. Yeah, that's a problem. Okay, so do you start getting in trouble at what age?

At what age, you start getting arrested and shit? 16. What would they get you for? For whooping somebody's ass. Just a random fight? Nah, hell not. It wasn't even me. It was me and my homeboy type shit, like some burnt out shit.

I can't even really. Well, I could get into detail about it, but just to break it down, imagine some food that used to be your homie, and then he starts kicking it with some foods that you know that you're getting into it and you're like, why are you hanging out with them people? And then you get to the point where now they're saying stuff and they're disrespecting kids and they're saying,

oh, stuff about your kid, overweight. And you're just kicking it with them like, it's all good? No, no, my homie's the one that says the shit. Oh, what? He just turned to straight up on me. Like, I don't know how to explain. And not even for a real reason.

He just did it. Not even really for a real reason. Because it was convenient. Now it was because I just, I whipped his cousin ass first. Oh, shit. I'd be in my time whooping eyes. So is there a lot of drama

where you're from. Hell yeah, everybody knows what so. But in my town, it's pretty cool right there. They're like, my town's small. We run the town. There ain't no northern hoods in my town. There's no other homie hoods in my town. My whole town is my hood.

You know what I'm saying? You know how people will be like, I'm going to go to the hood? It's like a block or some shit. Mine's the whole town. You could be at the fucking post office. That's my hood right there.

But does that? I'll post up outside of the post office. You get me? Does that open the door for there to be like beef in between your hood because it's so big? No, no. It's not even big. That's my point.

Like the population is like 3,000. So it's easy to run. Like most people will probably cap on it. Oh, there's nothing to be ragging about. But I run the whole hood. Like everybody knows it's cracking or not I run the whole hood. We run the whole hood like SSP. There's only one hood in my town in this SSP.

Right. Straight up. There ain't no mix. We never have to run into no mix of enemies going to the stores. You get what I'm saying? We mom town like a G. So in your home, super comfortable. No problems.

As soon as I go anywhere outside of there, that's where the story is everybody knows. There's North Daniels out there. Yeah. Who gives a. I still go shopping. I still do this and that. I still buy my backwoods.

Because I feel like when it comes to LA, there's a bunch of people from LA, rappers and stuff, who talk all this shit about northerners, but in my opinion, a lot of them have probably never even seen a northerner in real life. It's just kind of just like...

Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. But is that like a real thing that you've encountered or whatever? Is it just a situation... What do you mean? Like people telling me that? Well, like running into people from up north because you are in the Central Valley,

so I'm sure there's more exposure than Minnesota. Southern California. I mean like rappers and shit? Ran into people or you're just saying like, have I got into it or whatever? I mean rappers or just in general? No, I haven't run into no rappers. Okay.

I just became rapper myself. Right. It's just wild to imagine that there's that many people that you got to kind of avoid for, I guess not avoid. Not avoid. But it's an issue if you're saying. When I do stay on toes, I will admit that. But do you think that that closes doors for you career-wise that there's all these people

who might be into your music that can't really fuck with it? No, I just feel like These foods are not making good enough music So I could literally play with this shit at this point And them hating on me for playing with it It's just making me more viral So they're just putting themselves more back Slow and steady wins the race

Okay Straight up, you see how I've been doing all this and this and that Man, it's me and my manager right here You think I'm bugged out for doing interviews with all them And having to come down to L.A? Nah, because you're doing your Thuck Dizzle We did like three or four of those last year Why? And you get what I mean?

Like you're doing your Thug Dissor when they come Why are they coming? You get what I'm saying? Right They came to the interview Like when you come to the interview, you know it's cracking a hearty. I felt like it was really no big deal until one of them went and shot a video in Lefty's neighborhood. Oh, yeah, see, that's burn shit.

That was a little awkward. That's out of this. But I'm just saying, folks can't complain when they came on in the interview, too. They know what this interview is about. They know what's up with this. It's just to be your damn cell. Like, this internet is just to play with. Like, these cameras right here, you fools can't see,

but there's fucking five cameras in my face right now. You know what I'm just talking shit. It is. Like, I could be myself. I told you, I had the right to just be myself. I don't talk like, oh, I'm on a dead homies, co. You see how that's how, you think how I would look, I'll talk? I talk like goofy as fuck.

Like, my voice kind of high pitch, like, because I'm being myself. I'm not forcing shit. Yeah. Get around the bitches. I still talk like this. I still be like gravitating to me, bro, walk. Yeah. I just fucking had an interaction with the old lady in the mall right now.

I was showing in my music. She was like, who are those people on your pants? Are they good people or bad people? I was man, this is El Chapo and fucking Paula Escovara right here. And then they're like, I was like, I didn't even know what I said. I was like, they're bad. I was like, they're bad people, but I'm good people. I was like, I'm good though.

Yeah, I'm not going to lie. There's something about you. She was like El Trapo don't sound bad. She was like El Trapo sounds like a bad guy. Who's that? It feels like you have the personality to draw in a fan base. And even on like a small level, like the fucking, the young Mexican dudes who work here and shit, I just see how excited about your shit that they are. Shout to the Edgar, man.

The Edgar boys, yeah. Some very good boys right there. They put me on to a lot of shit. Oh, me out there's the level five boss, Edgar. The final boss. Which ones? Stefan? Oh, no.

We're going to have to figure out which one's the final boss. Walk in here, watch. So, wait, okay. You got a song when you say, I hate to say it, but I'm into it with blacks. That was like one of the first lyrics I heard that really stood out to me. And I was just like, damn, that's like funny as fuck that you would just acknowledge that.

I just explained about that fool? He was black. Like I was black. Where I'm from, so much northerners, you don't think there'd be black fools that just be like, fuck it, I only be from northernhood, too. It's just coincidence. It wasn't like that whole race.

It was like, if you're from where I'm from, you understand. You're from Tulare County, Manch. Beyond your paper, you don't know who's related to who, but. So that's like the number one conflict is just between blacks and Mexicans in general. It's like the blacks don't beef with the blacks and the Mexicans don't mean the Mexicans so much. In my hood, I got one black homie, and that's because he's from my hood. Okay. He's my older homie.

Other than that, and he's my older homie, so I don't really see him like that. Be doing his thing, working hard, take care of the fam as he should. But other than that, I have no black friends, bro, in my town. Really? Dead ass. When we take a picture, I'm the only one that looks like me. Mm.

Straight up. That's just so small out there, man. And I'm popping now. But do you feel like... I'm glad I got the chance to do this shit because basically, like, I think of it like this. Like, y'all motherfucker's gonna make

the right person famous. You know what I'm saying? But do you culturally feel like you're Mexican at this point? Like, when you hang out with black dudes down here in L.A., do you feel almost like close to them? I would not have put my commitment to it if I did not like,

hell yeah, I feel love there. Like, I feel more love than I feel like how I told you I never talked to my dad like this. I talked to my old old homie like this. You do what I'm saying? And they lace me up for real, for real. That's why I move how I move.

Uh-huh. I mean, I could be whoever I want, I had the right to be whoever I want. Okay, I was with somebody the other day, and we were watching your videos. And somebody said to me, they're like, you know why he's going to win, right? And I'm like, why?

He's like, because he's half black. And they're like, blacks just got the swag. Like, you know, Mexican's cool. Like, they do their thing. But historically, in California, 90% of the popular rappers have been black, probably more than that. And then it's like, I don't know, do you agree with that assessment that that's like a big part of like why? Because it's like you, you like represent as a Mexican, you are that, but then you also have the black part of you,

which apparently is the part that makes great music and has a little bit of that. I don't know what the fuck, how I can possibly say this without pissing people off. But then I hit the county joan. And then I hit the county joan and I'm running his spani. Yeah. Is that awkward? anyway? Nah. My homie's never treating me different. That's what I love.

They treated me like, what? This is he wants to hang out with us? Hell yeah, bring him type shit. It was not like no, oh, he has to prove himself.

Actually, like, none of that. I'm literally a homie. Like, that's why I'm like this. I talk like everybody else in my town. We'd be speaking Spanish and shit, like some Pixley-ass shit,

you know? I'm from Pixie. Like, if you see the way I move, bro, I'm from Pixley. But so there's no, when you get locked up, there's no black dudes who are like kind of upset about the fact

Maybe you're from Mexican hood or they're... Yeah, they do. Yeah, yeah, they do. But they can't really do nothing to you because of the racial difference and they don't want to spark off that tension? If I'm being honest, yes, that is the answer. That's exactly why they won't. Right, because there's a lot of solidarity between the Mexicans in there.

So if somebody wanted to fuck with you, it would probably be a very, very big issue. And it doesn't like that either. Like, when you're in jail, you can't really talk shit. Like, food's no. Like, that shit don't slide or at least for us. When I say us, you know what I mean. But we don't be doing the shit talking. If you see some lame or something, you can't be in there and be like, oh, you're lame.

Like, now you're getting your ass whoop for even making, looking dumb like that, act like a grown-ass man. You know what I mean? Yeah. So don't think when you go to jail, people be literally in there throwing up gang signs and dissing their obstacle gang signs. All that is out the window when you go to jail. Right. Dead ass you go to jail and you already fucking, they took your rights away. And then if you're a gang member, they add 10 more fucking things you can't do.

Tim more to your list. Like, you got to be it. Oh, so that's part of why people aren't really like gay man in there is because it's like super strict that you can't do that? Yeah, like, you really gang banging, like, and you're politicking for real, that shit's a hard, that shit's a hard-knock life. And everyone tries to act like SG, but that should be, man, you know that you'd be going through it. Right. But a person like me, you just have fun with it and do this and that. And fuck, look at me now.

I'm going up. That shit's just crazy, man. So when you've been locked up, you don't feel like you have to get on some tough shit, you feel like you can just be a chill, low-key guy? Hell yeah. That's how you don't get your ass will. Keep your mouth shut and talk when you're spoken to it in there. Don't be in there trying to be main character. You see how I be all here, flashy?

you think I'd be like that in jail? Hell not. No, you're trying to fit in to just be like a soldier in there? Basically, that's the summing up. Just fit in. Listen and don't break the rule as soon as you do it. Everyone knows you're getting dealt with. I don't see why people still get into it in jail, man. Don't even go to jail.

You know what I'm saying? Stop fucking up. What is the point of going to jail? Then you get out and do the same shit. And I do that shit, bro. I'm telling you straight out. I'm telling all the kids, this and that. That shit is not fun, bro.

Whenever you're sitting in that fucking holding cell, and it'd be like six ass hours, they tell you, I'll be right back in 20, minutes. In 20 minutes, I'll be right back. They don't come back in 20 minutes. They come back in six hours. Like, all the real Gs, they'd be out there. You know, damn, why, you'd be cold in there, and you know you'd be thinking like, fuck, I should have done this. I should have done that. I should have done this better. I should have ran.

Like, that's real shit. You get what I'm saying? Like, real that shit, when I'm sitting like, damn, I wish I could go home right now, I can't go home. That's the shit that's all the gangsters ain't going to tell you, bro. Right. That's how they wear you down. What they're going to get out and tell you is, man, man, I was in there for six hours. but nigger they know they were not in there for six hours you ain't got no cell phone what are you doing for those six hours sitting at the wall and thinking about your whole fucking life

thinking about how much better it is on the outside with some freedom of just damn because you just have so much freedom in the world you know I would be solid it's just a food issue for me like fuck that's just sick man really what do you if there is good food in jail then it would not be what do you like to eat pasta I went viral at the olive garden shot to olive garden man straight of the fly bay

Mama's no. What were you doing at Olive Garden? I didn't see that. The Flahey Mama's No was cracking on TikTok. The homie just recorded me like, hey Tomlin goes, what's your favorite food? Just fucking around. Put it on TikTok, boom. That should go up so random.

Because you said pasta? No, yeah, I was like pasta, my favorite food. This and that. I just said some regular ass shit. I didn't even think it was going to go up. I literally was talking. I even told him, I don't think he's supposed to. I look kind of awkward in the video because I wasn't ready.

Then I was like, man, fuck it. Post it. Fuck it thing. I mean, if you could say some regular shit about eating pasta and have the TikTok go crazy, that's probably a pretty good sign. Now it's to the point now I can post my fucking shoe right now and this and you get like 14K views on my story. Promo tap in.

You see me, if you ever see me holding the camera to my face, I'm like, hey, shout out to the, boom, boom, that's promo, man. Damn, okay. Go out to the promo. That's hard.

Wait, when did you start getting locked up? When I was 16. Okay. That's whenever the racket started and I started actually going to jail and being like, damn. But I was not even jail. I was juvenile hall. That's just not the same.

And so then, Because you've been locked up in L.A. County as well. Yeah. When did that happen? Like, when you first start coming down here? When I first started coming down here, I've been coming down here. Like, little de foods, no, we will come out here and make money straight up. Oh, so you always been hustling?

Oh, no, we'll come. Well, yeah, but I'm saying we'll come to L.A. And then when we'll come to L.A., we'll go to, like, plan it out. Like, we're going to go to the beach, and then we have a three-hour drive home. That's our experience of L.A. We will enjoy the fuck out of L.A. We're posting hell of L.A. You know what I'm saying?

Now it's to the point where I feel like, damn, I might as well fucking move right here. When I go through the South Central, I don't even need the Google Maps no more. Dead is. Who do you connect with out here? Whoever's clever, man. Everyone be showing me love, bro, that's just a trip. I'd be coincidentally making songs of foods and then I find out later the other food

don't like the other food, but no one told me shit, you got what I'm saying? They must feel like I'm cool as fuck, man. Right. You get what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. I mean, as long as you're not crossing any, like, huge lines between different And everyone that I diss, who am I dissing? All those fucking chaps out there.

I'm not dissing no one right here. So if you're not bumping my shit, you got to be a hater. Yeah, what's a chapp? You always say, fuck chaps. What's a chap? A Norteño. Oh, really? That's what they call them?

I didn't even know that. Yeah. Damn, okay. What does chaps mean? I heard chaps me something else, though. Like a chap means like some cowboy shit or some other shit. What is it? Remember Ralph Lauren?

What is it? The chaps line? Oh, yeah. And it's the pants that you wear when you're on a horse and shit, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And in Walmart, they got this clothing around It's called Chaps. I've seen that shit.

Is that the polo shit? When I was a kid, they're like, okay, you know you got like a polo shirt from Ralph Lauren and I got the little horse and shit and that shit like $60. That'd be like a cheaper version of it. The Polo Assassin? I don't even know, but I just remember it was like Chaps was like the cheap ass polo brand at a certain point.

Oh, okay. He's talking about that Ross Polo. Yeah, no. For real, yeah. And shit, those polo shirts probably are not $60 anymore. I probably just remember them being $60 like 20 years ago Last time I bought one. $20.

They're like fucking $20. What the fuck? At Coles. Yeah, yeah. If you go to fucking Nordstroms, they're probably going to hit you for $120. I don't know. This is my guess.

Okay, so, wait, but when do you get locked up in L.A.? What was the first time? The first time I got locked up in L.A. I think it was, damn, when was it? I think it was when we were with DJ flip shooting

that song called Free Tommy Guns. Okay. It was supposed to be called that. They just called it that because I got locked up in the middle of the music video. Yeah, yeah. Wait, in the middle of the music area? Where were you at? And what happened? In Burbank, yeah.

Fucking Bramick PD, man. I'm a loke, homie. I'm trying to right here push my hood and do this and I make money. Like, that's it. He's pulled up on the kid. Every time they see me, bro. Bro, they got X4 out here, too. Burbank's a hot spot for people getting arrested, apparently. It really is, though. But you were just shooting the video and then what? They pulled up on you and they searched you, I'm assuming. And then I just had a warrant. Oh, there's a warrant. I always be the nigger with a warrant, bro. I always be the one in something wrong. There's never, like, a good day, but now I'm good.

Now I'm straight. I got everything set out. I got my warrant. I'll be going to court. Like, I'm straight right now. That's what I'm going to lie. I mean, realistically, staying out of trouble is one of the most important things as a rapper. If you want to be successful as a rapper, you just got.

Yeah, if you want to be successful. You got to be successful. So many of our favorites just get locked up at a certain point, you know, it's like, it's tough. And somehow I'll be finding a way to mix pleasure with business and I still get the job done because I'm a loke. Yeah, you just got to learn how to wiggle. You just got to stay out of those situations. Know when is a good time to go outside when you got to lay low. You know what I like to do, though?

I'll be winging everything, bro. This winged it. Everything I wing it. Promo, wing it. Like, I don't like to know anything like, oh, this and this and that. Or like learning about people shit. You know what I do, though? On the way to an interview, I literally go through the page of the fool I'm going to get interviewed by,

and I scroll real quick, just boom, boom. Like, how does this chair look? Like, how does this look in the bed? That's all I get a fuck about. I know when I get there, the connection ain't nothing. I just ran into an old lady at the mall. Like in three seconds, I didn't know I was going to see her. You gave me, but you see how natural the interaction was?

I know how to talk to people. Who's don't know? I used to work out of stay. I was working at a Mexican restaurant, bro. And they had me in the front, front, front. Why? Fuck the face hats. I got the customer service on point.

Really? Dead ass. So you felt like people liked you in that kind of environment? Yeah. They put me up there. When I started off, I was in the drive-ththrough on some low-key shit. Like I was like, I wasn't shy, but I was like, man, I ain't trying to get cause sleeping right here.

I call slipping, like, something happening to me, like a badass bitch seeing me. And she's like, oh, this was working. Is that how it feels? But then it swapped, too. I'm the one in the front. When you go, you know, Chipotle? It was like Chipotle. You know how you walk and you tell him, I want this done.

And the person says, hello, welcome to Chipotle. What you like to eat? That was me, bro. Dead ass a cafe Rio. Then you see a bad bitch and you feel like, damn, like, you're not going to think I'm a joint because I'm working here. Females and guys are not the same. A guy will be a rich-ass millionaire walking to McDonald's and see a beautiful-ass girl and be

like, damn, she looks good. I'm gonna take her up out this. Yeah. A bitch that got a foreign web pulling up, baddie, she's not gonna see a nigga at McDonald's and say, I'm gonna change his life. She can put a brocass nigga. I'm gonna be real.

Like, when's the last time you feel like you went to a McDonald's and you saw like a super hot chick working there? Because if she's that hot, how the fuck is she working at the McDonald's? She's down the earth. She doesn't give a fuck about no rapper pulling up in the benzo. She's gonna grind and get it. Yeah.

Fly bait mama. Like the ones that doing it what I know, my fucking man. But even then, Like if she's motivated, I feel like she's going to end up working at fucking Lulu Lemon or something. Or like, you know, she's going to graduate up to something a little better than McDonald's. Oh, you fuck with that too? All right.

If you know, then you know. Wait, what? That's probably like a gang diss or something. You got me right there. No. You just like athletic wear? The holes. No what's up with you.

Yo, because the Lulu Lemon pants can make a ass that is not a BBL look like a BBL. I'm trying to burn myself out too much. I'm in trouble. Okay, okay. But wait, so, at what point you start rapping? Like, what motivated you did you even start rapping? This fool and demon from 60 Letterboy, shout out to my boy.

He's the one that put me on rap. Yeah, okay, demon. I could tell you. You talk about him with a lot of respect. Hell yeah, that's my boy right there. Like, everybody probably thinks, because we barely started popping out like a couple months ago together making music. Because when I was out of state, I basically were just out there.

Like, there was no one to gang bang on out there. I was literally making music, bro. I was writing. raps like good shit all my shit that you see my old shit i was riding it like to perfection like i don't know how to explain it like i knew i was gonna make it like that song fuck a deal i wrote all that before i even got to la i'm in l.a county posted chilling with some actresses i was not in lauette when i wrote that i was in the apple b's and fucking billings montana yeah writing that shit right so wait so you were just like practicing for a long time before

you actually got the opportunity i was practicing for all this right here before you actually started rapping oh no no no i was rapping basically look i was rapping for a little bit i'll go to the studio with these foods. I finally said, fuck it, I'm gonna go. And that's when I told you, I was kind of nervous. It was on some, like, fuck. I don't want these people to see me like, I'm rapping. Like, that's kind of weird. But then my older homie was there, like, fuck it. And I rapped in front of him. And then everybody was saying

they were fucking with it. We posted it on a demon's page that we had. We were doing vlogs at the time. That show was kind of popping in our area. Basically, we were in Pixie and that small town just trying to go viral. You know, we were trying shit. We would do the hot chip challenge. And we'll vlog it. Imagine a bunch of homies, like, real homies but there's on some g-shy we're all in the homies mom's crib just trying shit

posting it for content and then fucking i finally just went to the studio one day and then i rapped and then after that we posted it on that page and then i like it got like 6k in how long like a month like 6k in one month and then after that we're like loki this food should start rapping basically these folks say like you're half black if you rap they're gonna be like what does he have to say they're like you're black and you're spitting for us so they're gonna be like what do you have to say even if you sound dumb and stupid like fuck it they're gonna click the video right they're gonna see this face and be like, what the fuck is this, boom.

And coincidentally like it. If you're making like super Hispanic sounding music, it's probably only going to appeal to that audience. And I feel like with you, it's like you can kind of automatically appeal to both sides, which is a little bit difficult. I somehow like just know I didn't like, I didn't know I was going to do this though.

Like my sound and all that, that shit just came about like the rhythm, how I found it. I don't even know how to explain. Everyone says it different because it really is different. And I actually listen. When people said it to me so much that one day I went home and I actually reviewed my own music.

Like I went through my whole YouTube channel. Like if I was one of y'all, they don't know me. You know what I mean? I was going through my YouTube channel if I didn't even know who the fuck I was. Just listening to each song and thinking about how you are choosing a rap on it. I was just, I just wrote that. It was just, I just wrote it regular. I don't know how I came up with the sound.

I'm not sure. Everyone says I'm trying to copy RIMBO and I'm trying to do this and that. So it's Rumble. We got the feature coming in. But I don't know how to explain, like, how I came up with the flow. I literally. I don't know how I would describe it either. Like, who do you think we're actually your influences that you were listening to?

All the time, you know who I say? My music is a mix of. Babesong gorillas and Lil Travezzo from Parkside. Okay. You know who that is? I do not. Lo Travezzo. Everyone else know who that is when they hear it.

They'll know. Okay. I'm not deep enough in the Rasa. Little Travis. Basically, he's like a straight-ass fucking Surenno, like banging-ass music. Like, mixed with Babystone Gorillas, which is like the vibe, like punchlines and this and that. Mixed. So I'm rapping, I guess how you would say with the black stilo, but what am I talking about?

Crack stars and lyrics for the food. That's what I'm talking about. Oh, this fool got killed, though. Yeah, he did. Oh, damn. Man, Man, some peace,

man. Miss and peace, de Trevi. Oh, okay. Damn. That was some inspiration for me, for sure,

though. That food was right there. Okay. He also gave me the confidence to win the rap. People ever compare you to blue face?

Nah, hell not. The Hinas. They say, act like, they say, oh, shit, for real?

You know he remind me of, you're toxic like that? No, no, I'm not. I'm not. You can't be, nobody's like him.

Yeah. That should upset to me, like, Like, fuck. What? Like, the way he acts towards girls? No, I'm saying when girls try to start. When girls, okay.

Like, y'all think I'm like that. Like, I might as well be like that. That shit must be fun as fuck. You know, that's what it is. I feel literally so G. Like, he don't lie about nothing, bro. He just be on it. Like, I mean, look.

Think about it. Like, the pandemic hit and he just like flew out a bunch of random ratchet chicks and just put them in a house, made them start boxing each other. You know what I feel like? I saw that shit for 50 bucks on Onlyfans. And then, fucking basically just got into a relationship with one of them because he felt like she had potential

that's how he met kreshawn he just flew her out to be part of this thing i was about to say the homie right here was saying that this food basically what he i feel like what he tried to go for was the drusky audition house honestly yeah yeah that's probably what he was going for like he thought was going to be like that it was before that you're getting a bad off that shit that was funny as fuck man i watched that whole drusky reality show to warm it up whenever you're kicking in with the huds the first thing you do is slap on some jerseky auditions and if she don't laugh she's evil bro. You're an evil person. If you don't laugh for Drisky, you must be evil,

brer. Drisky has a superpower. He's funny as fuck without having to do anything. He's just like, he does stuff and sometimes I'll think about it. I'm like, man, like, that wasn't even that funny, but he just like really pulls it together with just like his appearance

and shit. I don't know something about his face. But, okay, so you start rapping, does it start kind of cracking off like real early or how long does it take? Shit, I'm not going to lie. I told him. Oh, shit.

I'm not gonna lie, I pulled up, like, to the studio, and then I started rapping, and I did, like, one song, and it blew up in a month. So for that month, what do you think I was doing? Still gang banging. So doing this and that, so that's what I mean. I wasn't taking the rap series. Then some vicious shit had happened to me, and then fucking, I still didn't start rapping. I don't know how to explain it. Basically, I was rapping, and I was putting all this effort you see, this craft, and no one was paying attention to shit until I moved to L.A.

Like, the day I moved to L.A., it cracked. Like, not even capping, like, the day, I didn't wait. I didn't wait two days. Then it cracked. I literally cracked off. I went to, I came from Vegas. I missed my fucking flight. The homie was coincidentally in Vegas.

drove me to my hood. I said, I said, what's up to my mom after I haven't seen her in a year? I told her, hey, I'm going to go right here. I'm going to go to L.A. and I'm going to pursue this rap shit. You know, I'm going to be a rapper. Like, she's like, okay, whatever.

But you could tell she was like, man, like, all right type shit, whatever. Because if you know, I'd be doing worse than that, like, oh. And I don't even say anything. So for me saying something, like, I'm going to do this. I knew she had to, she had to believe me, bro. Come on now, you know? So you felt like you couldn't really blow up? I was hella confident up there. I left my job.

I left everything that I had going. I already had a regular job. I already had a car. I had my own house. You know what I'm saying? I was living regular life. And I just like, I was sorry to punch in that clock. What area in L.A. did you move to?

South Central. Westmont. I mean, that's a big decision, like to even get the money together for a deposit apartment and all this kind of shit. Like, you just moved yourself or you had like a roommate or? I know. Okay. You were right.

kind of situation. The snow bunny. Got it. Oh, you're a connoisseur of the snow bunnies. I am. I really am. Dr.

Umar would be so conflicted about you. Why? Because he's all about black pride and like you over here from a Mexican hood and fucking white women. Do you home me out there? No, who? The black girls too, though. Flacco? Flokos are.

Dr. Umar, yeah. I'll be with the black girl before too, though. They know what's popping. Come on. Yeah, which one's better? These who just asked me that out there. You want me to burn myself out?

Yeah, fuck it. You're going to see that shit later. Fuck. Damn. I mean, as long as we're talking stereotypes, they always act like Hispanic girls are crazy and black girls are mean. That's the stereotypes. I'm not saying those are true.

I was about to say, let's actually break this shit down then. Are you talking about just the pussy or how they act? I think we've got to talk to total picture. Like if you just, wife and one up. Because pussy's always going to be pretty good. That's what I'm saying.

I think we got to take, though, everything is. on that. Come on now, kid. Wait, so what? Hispanic pussy's better? My baby mama's, my baby mama straight Mexican. Okay. Let's just put it like that. Okay. Shit, honestly, I feel like... My daughter's 25% black.

Pussy is one thing where it's like, variety is the spice of life. They're all great in their own ways. Besides fat. Fat's not great. Fat? Honestly, fat's pretty gross, yeah. He's got to be like a cutoff at a certain point. The thicker it gets, you're saying like that like something's just too thick like you can't be caught walking in the mall with that you know well not even that but like I mean you try to stick you digging a 300 pounder

there's just like a lot of a lot of blubber to get through before you dick is even making it come yeah well obviously got to overcome legend says that I mean to make it happen you can do it a 300 pound woman is fucking gigantic everyone always says if you want to you can do anything you put your mind to yeah you're a fucking obese woman who do you uh oh okay so you move to L.A and like when when do you meet these you guys? flip and like who you actually connected with in terms of like having friends out here and shit well when i first came out here it was uh i'm i'm gonna keep a g it was blanco 15 the one that invited me oh okay nice he's the one that uh invited me to a spa like he didn't even tell the

people at the spot he was gonna bring me um he gave me he just brought me like he had been watching me for a while when i was out there out of state doing all this making this content i was doing vlogs i'll throw parties on my pad all the snow bunnies i had them out you go through my music videos everyone's capping on the hose i had at least i didn't pay him i did everything so swift, bro, this shit so crazy. Like, I came about and did all this shit. I did it so swift. I was not paying for nothing.

All the bitches you see and never paid them. They fuck with the vibe. I don't know how to explain it. I don't even tell them they're going to be a music video. It'll be like a party and I just pull the camera out type shit. I'm already standing next door and they just don't walk away from the camera. You get me? Instead, they just be like, oh, I'm in the music video.

I'm in the music video. But okay. What's the appeal of the Snow Bunny? You want me to keep a G? Yeah. They just seem so, like, clean. And they feel like, and they listen. Like, I don't know how to explain it.

on a white girl, she's going to cry and take you back. You cheat on a black girl, she's going to punch you in your shit. You cheat on a Mexican girl, she's going to throw some shit at your car. Like, you get me? Get her brother to kill you. Fuck. No, I feel like part of the appeal with white women has to be. Yeah, like what you just said, that you can kind of put them through hell,

and they're going to kind of keep coming back for more. Low key? Not my experience, but you put them through hell. You put them through hell and they'd be like, damn. They don't like you whatever, but then you'd be like, fuck it. Then I'm going to leave. And then that's when they be like, oh, never mind then. You get me?

Like I feel like a white girl just don't want to see you with no one else Like they'll literally go through anything just to not see you with anyone else You know what I'm saying? Really? The white girl will be your wife and sit there her ass at home nigger while she knows you're out there As you don't leave her Is that because white people just feel like society is supposed to belong to them? So like they feel like they got owned their man

They have to impress their mom and dad that I have my husband You know what I mean? Straight up Fuck y'all go through this as long as my family thinks that this ain't going on Okay what race of woman is most likely to let you be basically turn their crib into a trap spot and just be hustling out of the race yeah white white's see that's what I'm thinking yeah yeah because when I met Brick baby it was because I was getting Zanz off this girl back in the day and she tells me she got a boyfriend named Brick baby and he's got

her whole crib full of pounds of mushrooms this is what she told me it was like over 10 years ago and I'm like damn because I knew who he was just as like an underground rapper and I'm like what the fuck you're day and that guy's like a super white girl and I'm like realizing like that Who knows what's cracking. He's just trapping out her spot. Like, that's crazy. At that point, I was like, damn, I'm never going to rip you off for these Zanes that I'm buying off you.

Even though that would- Who must know what's cracking. Yeah. I was living with the white girl, too. I know what that feels like. That's a trip, huh? I know what it feels like to live in a house with a white girl, and you go to work and you get off work,

and she's right there making some food. Mm. But that's, is that mostly a white girl thing? Like. To do that? Yeah. I feel how all girls do that. Yeah.

If they like you, though, do that. I don't matter the race. they have to just like you. And the white girls just like you. I don't know. But I've dated girls who like went to McDonald's every night. She was like that too, though. She was weird.

She was like white looked good and everything. But she's just like ghetto as fuck. Like me, smoke a blunt with me. Do this and that with me? Do you like a girl that smokes? To be honest, I do. But it doesn't matter if not.

It's not like a stigma because if not, fuck it more for me. Don't be rolling up my weed when I ain't there. It's a nice past time together. My sack is lower than it was. Yeah, yeah, for sure. That's the problem. It's a nice past time to share.

I ain't a lot. I like girls that like me, bro. Like, you have to like me. I want a dumb-ass bitch, like straight-off. I want you to like the way I walk, the way I talk, the way I smell. Everything, just like you. Like, I should not have to try to do nothing to impress you. You should just fuck with the steel in there.

I like girls like that. No, that's real. Just appreciate me for me. That's what's getting spoiled. I'm the prize. I'm a gift. Like, realize you're in the presence of something special here. Basically, I just love to have trust.

Like, if I say there's a fucking, there's nothing around that corner and just go around that corner, don't fucking be like, Like, are you sure? Bro, and now I'm mad. You get what I'm saying? Don't question. Shit. Like, I know what's best for everything.

My girl. Look around, man. My girl really looks down on me because of the fact that I am into it when a girl acts like a fan. Because a girl, you don't like it? No, I do. A girl will come up to me at a party and be like, oh, my God, I love you. Like, I want to fuck you one day.

You're so, you guys are so cool, whatever. And I'll be like, damn, we should fuck her. That's hard. And my girl will be like, oh, you just love these fucking fan bitches. Girls like that shit, too, though. Girls like, you've seen fucking. Steph Curry's baby mama got fucking in trouble for that or she went viral because she made it in the interview

like, I ain't gonna lie. I do like the male tension. Like, I do love when I go out and my boyfriend and around, but other guys compliment me. I like that. What's wrong with that? Yeah, you can't say that. You know you like that shit. You're gonna' see? You're supposed to act like you don't like it? It takes three hours to do your makeup in the mirror. Like, you ain't doing that shit just for it. If I say you look good

and come on now. Yeah. Come on now. No, women can't lie to us and act like they don't care about how they look when they're spending two or three hours in the makeup chair. And then you go out with them, you're like, let's go to the movies. They put on some fucking sweats and a t-shirt and no makeup. They go out with their friends. All suited and booted.

No, that's real. So you moved out here and then you met DJ Flip? Yeah, I actually went on there for like a hot take freestyle, like a quick thing. And then he just seen me and you just fuck with me. Right. It was just supposed to be like quick in and out thing. Like, you know how I go to different platforms? He just happened to be like, hey, man, tap in.

And so have you locked in with him and done a ton of music? Yeah. Definitely. But you guys didn't sign any kind of like deal or anything? No, my manager just had like a, we just had a thing going on. We were just getting booking studio time and doing this and that. We were just, we had like an agreement going on. We were working, man.

Like that's what fucks of my sound. Like it don't have nothing to do with no contract, no nothing. Like you just don't have to love. Like you see a young kid trying to do his thing straight up. I think he's the one that brought me here and introduce me to you. Yeah, yeah, totally. Yeah. Yeah.

No, definitely. And I started actually listening to him. And I was like, oh, okay, this is hard. Yeah, hell yeah. Definitely, yeah, man. I feel like you and Blanco together is kind of like... You think that's a crazy combo? I mean, you're not like a group, but when you guys do come together,

I feel like it's just so much young energy from a dude who's realistically half Mexican and then another dude who's fucking Bosnian. But it's a new take on a, you know, what, like a young joint rapist sounds like. I'm going to teach me how to speak that language. Bosnian? I would be speaking that shit on the phone. Really? dead as I hear him.

Oh shit. When you hear your friend talking to his parents in a different language, that's when you realize what's really going on. Yeah, I've been in that position. I've been here before. You've been on this earth before. Okay, so, like, now at this point, like, are you doing label meetings?

Are you talking to people like that or trying to, like, figure out how they can make your career blow up faster? Yeah, that's been going on. Shit, damn near the whole time I've been out here, but I'm just doing my tug-thizzle right now. Definitely. But, so that's like, you're not in a hurry to do that. You feel like you're just going to keep blowing up independently

and you'll do the label thing if it makes sense at some point. I ain't going to lie. Fuck yeah. I might as well just do my, why does well do my due diligence and stop the stress from everyone? That's how it was cracking? Oh, shit. What?

You already signed something? Hmm. Yes, sir. The kid's on a sick one. You know why I don't got the chain right now? You know I don't got my chain right now? Today's a good-ass day. I got some fresh.

Shout-so-solty, man. He only made 150 of these sweaties. You know what I'm doing good today? I mean, you know where my fucking change that today? The Fly Bay Mamas. I could give a fuck. I let them know she's on it, wearing it, whatever. Who gives a fuck?

You just left it there. Yeah. Did that almost make you want to cancel the energy? Because I just feel like a G. Like, I literally just feel like a G today. I'm doing out of the ordinary shit today. About to go book a nice ass hotel after this. Buy some fucking, a gold bottle of Bel Air.

Trust, today's the day. Tommy Gunn seems like he's really enjoying life. I am. I just signed a deal with Sony Records. I'm going to be the first artist to start off this music group called AKA AK Music. Really? I'm about to be the first artist to crack off something like,

I'm the future man, straight up. That's huge. You ain't never heard of this before, AK music group, straight up. I used to always tell artists to stay independent, but I feel like they're going to help you blow up a lot faster. I was about to say,

this ain't, this ain't independent or signing like, this is some new shit. Like, watch. I'm a youngster, I got time to play around. Like, one thing about all the old heads hating on me

or whatever the fuck's going on with this speculation on my name that fucking I dislike the old heads and this and that. I just like to play with like and someone makes fun of me they say something about my hairline you know what I'm gonna do I'm gonna make a song

and then my next song and say that my hairline looks good or awesome what's wrong with their hairline? No, that's good now I'm just saying just listen to the point I'm trying to say is

basically if they make fun of anything I use it and I play with it but that's why I keep going viral Do you kind of have like a little dip in the middle? Is that what they give you a hard time about? I'm not the Mexican hairline kid. Is that a Mexican thing?

Fuck! Hey if you know if you know that you know If you're a Mexican kid, bro, and I know it's cracking because I'm from Pixie, homie. Whenever you go, you don't even get the hairline, bro. Like, you know what I'm saying? You don't get the airline. They get the haircut, but they don't touch the hairline.

Like, I'm not explaining. Mexians always get made fun of that, huh? They'll be like, get the hairline. You never had to Edgar? Hell no, I can't even get Edgar if I wanted to get out. That wouldn't work, huh? Yeah, you get what I'm saying, though? All the like, if you're eight years old, then you're Mexican,

you know, when you go to the barbershop, your mom does not let you get the line up, bray. You know what I'm saying? they'd be like it's too much or it looks dumb or whatever because it only looks good for a few days then when you're like in high school that's when you realize now I need a fade I need a line up you know what I'm saying

I'm still like that I only trust it one barber to actually touch my hairline that's what I do I get my haircut and then I would just not tell them don't touch the hair line bro because I feel like if they try to touch it they're gonna fuck it up even more stupid straight up definitely

I'd be playing around I'd be toying around when people make fun in me I literally just use it to my advantage I don't know how I do it so swiftly like I don't instead of getting mad I'll go on there and interview and I'll express my anger right there because now the views go up now who's getting paid off that like all of us right here no that's super important in the comment section yeah where's i gonna give me bro only like 30 people are gonna see it right wasted all my energy being mad at it you got i'm saying

right here's gonna get the real exposure like if someone were to ever dis me i'm not gonna make a this song i'll probably just go on an interview talk shit and there really the interview goes up now my music going up not his clout you couldn't see yourself getting into a big back-and-forth rap battle type thing? I mean, you can never say never, but for... Maybe if I was the right person. Because when I was searching your name, I started seeing your ops making songs with your name

in the title. Straight up. That's one-sided beef, though. You're not down to partake? Is that some shit where it's just like... Cry for help right there. That's basically what that is. The dudes from where you're from, just basically. They're tripping out some little shit that, like, I just said

because I was drunk and I just, I just like to talk shit. Right. And that song's never coming out. Like, that's what's funny. That song's never coming out. They sampled you talking shit. I was happy that he heard that. They took it as offensive towards you.

I gave him something to wake up and motivate him every day. You're welcome, dog. There it is. How did you get the Tommy Gunn's name? To be honest, I just heard somebody say that shit in a rap bar. And then I just, I heard it and I lived in life. That would be a badass name. Me and him were debating my name for a fat-ass man.

What should it be? Like some crazy shit. And I don't know how I came up with that. I just picked it. It had really no meaning to it. I just knew I wanted my name to be something related to with a gun because my name from my hood is Gunner. Okay.

So I wanted to be something like all my homies from my hood no means as that. So I wanted my rap name to at least be something like that. Right. Yeah, because, okay, I've seen you talking to my boy Gunner, and you're like, yeah, that's my name. Yeah, that's crazy. And then today I've seen you walk up on my friend Julian and you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, you can believe that.

Believe it, believe it. You don't want them to know the government? No, yeah. I already said the government. I'm just saying, though. Okay. No, no, we're good. Hell no.

I'm a little, Brett. I'm like, does he just say that to everybody? No, I ain't going to lie. Donnie, that's my name. No, no, no. It's because I rarely run into people with that name. So when I do, like, that's,

if you caught me in a good moment to see that, because otherwise I've been calling me Julio since I was, like, in seventh grade when we were playing sports. Julio Jones, football player? Yeah, yeah. That was my idol, man. Shout to Julio Jones, man. If he ever sees this man, you're a loke, call me

I always choose the number 11 when I'll play sports. I love just telling everybody they're a loke. That's so good. I'm a loat. That's like some cool ass slang. I can get into that. I'm a loat. If you ever get caught cheating or anything or anything,

the cost of you over it, I'm a loke. I'm a loke, baby. My girl's going to be like, what the fuck does that mean? Okay, so I guess like, okay, where do we want to go? this. Whatever's clever. Wravee.

Rap beef, not trying to partake. Do you think it's harder to be accepted as a rapper being a black South Sider? Do you feel like people are kind of interested in it and that actually

helps you? Yeah, I feel like it actually helps me out a lot. And then my lyrics are actually hard as fuck. So people, when they watch me, they just like stay tuned. Like, I got 7.7 million people

on the dashboard right now, 35K followers on Instagram. Why don't I have 7.7 million followers? you get me? Everyone's watching. Building up. We just got to keep getting bigger and bigger records. Everyone's watching though.

Like, fuck it. Yeah. Everyone does seem interested in me. And I'm surprised. I've been getting a lot of love out here. I haven't beef with no one. You know what I mean? You have to say no beef with me or no one.

Nah, that's good. Yeah, man. Just keep it positive and just keep moving in, like, a good direction. More positive note. It feels like it's just kind of like destined to happen that you're just going to have like a really fucking huge year. I'm going to see where it goes from there. That's because I keep a humble, though.

Like, everybody knows what's up. I always say every time. I always say the same shit every time. If you do this shit for the wrong reason, it's not going to work because the earth's going to feel that you're doing it for the, they're going to know you're doing it for the wrong reason. You're going to get more obstacles than the average person. Do you what I'm saying?

Really just telling my story. I'm not trying to be famous. I'm not trying to get a badass chain and fuck these bad bitches. I've been getting bitches before the rap. Fools know what's up with me. You know what I'm saying? Are you going to choose up on all your old hose and just be like, no, I got to fuck with new fancy chicks with BBL and shit.

You know that's going to happen. It's got to happen. So then I can get it over with it. and see what do I really want when I'm a grown-ass man like literally like when I got my own house my own everything but okay you're never I don't need no one for shit then we're gonna see who's the badest now I don't need I don't need you for your car your money I don't need nothing well you're in a weird situation because you're young enough being like 20 that it's like you need to just be living your life but then at the same time like you like to have a girlfriend

around you like to have somebody that you have a connection with that's comfortable that's not like a lie that it's true whatever but I like older girls too so it makes it makes it easier for me to be on my my my how do you say I don't want to say pim shit I don't even know if Surreños can Pimp but I'm not on my Pimp shit but I'm just saying like they help me out as in I could be friends like friends with benefits it be the older ones that only done to do that bro I could you I could talk to a girl that's my age 20 19

and you know what they're going to as soon as you're just trying to have a real life conversation like oh and you say something about your ex they're just looking like what they're not going to pay attention to nothing else that you say the soon as you say that then now they're trying to yeah that's just some immature actually you can I'm saying then with the older girl you could have a real conversation she'll tell you about her husband did her dirty and this and that and she don't fucking me like what whatever yeah because bro you like a real conversation you fucking

with a girl that's 30 she's been in a bunch of serious relationship she had her her feelings hurt by dudes etc she's like a real killer like she knows what it's like to go through all this shit whereas you fucking with a girl that's 19 and i make her and this shit all seems brand new to her you know what i do i make her feel 19 because that's all what i am you feel me that's my oh don't click that don't bro you know a lot of game for you know a lot of game for you know a lot of game for Right. Don't write that down. You got a lot of game.

No, that's just simple shit. I got so much game for the world that I don't even feel like who's ready. Like when it comes to game game game game, game and politics. Like gang man and tip. That's what I'm really laced up on. Really? This is just talking shit. You got any game banging tips for me?

I don't. No. I just want to let that be known, though. Who knows was cracking? I feel like I made it clear already that I got all these tattoos on my face and this and that so I could do whatever I want. I don't have to act hard. I don't have to act tough. Like, you know what I mean?

When I go to jail, then we'll see who's tough. Right. When everyone goes to jail, they don't see it was tough. So you had any swobbles in the county? No, I haven't. Never happened. How I said, I keep my mom quiet, homie. Don't do drugs.

Don't owe money, don't. It's simple, bro. Right. I'm a youngster, but I know what's up. It's really so simple. I'm going to tell it how it is. Most people not say that, don't fucking do drugs in jail and be like, oh, my girl will cash up you later.

And you just get the drugs and not pay. And later, your girl coincidentally, bank clothes. Now you got your ass. Whoop, nigger. Straight up. That's not good. That's just simple rules. just fall a brer.

Dead ass. I don't know. How people don't do that shit. So you were getting drugs in jail? No, no, no, hell not. I hear you're having about taking Zanz and stuff, though. You're fucking around a little bit, right?

No, that was like when I was younger though. Oh, okay. I ain't gonna lie. So you don't fuck with pills currently? Right now, the only thing I do right now, I smoke bud. I drink liquor like a motherfucker. I don't know why. Really?

I feel like I'm low-key becoming alcoholic because every time I'm in a good-ass mood or I'm having a good day. It won't be as good if I don't have the alcohol. We got to watch out for that. You get me? be something. If I know I'm about to fuck a bad bitch, I need the alcohol. If I know, I'm gonna have an interview, I need the alcohol. If I know, you get what I'm saying? Or else today won't be as good. Why is that? Why is that a problem? Why can I just go without it and just because you're alcoholic? I just want to be drunk. Your body is screaming

out for the alcohol. Like that's, it's not, your body's not going to feel content unless you, it gets this drug that is literally holding it together. Come on. But this one was a good one. I already knew what I was doing today. I was watching another interview you did and you were just nursing a Modello the whole time. And I was like, I wonder how many of those he goes through per day. I wonder how much blunts I go through it. I'm not rolling right now. Do you feel like the weed is more your problem?

Definitely the weed is my problem because that shit smells like a motherfucker. You can't hide the fact that you do it. You can't smoke it in people's house. You know what I'm saying? It's just an issue. Like for people that don't smoke weed, they make such a big fucking deal about it.

You know what I'm saying? But it's just fucking weed. No, for sure. But it's a problem, though. It sucks that I can't just put it down. I can't. When I'm going to my four-year-old's like tea ball game and it's like,

you know, if I just stink like weed in that environment. Like, you know how much that shit stands out? And then again, you wish you could enjoy your daughter's game while being high. Yeah, right? And just chillang. Like, I'm not really enjoying this unless my wife's fly. No, but then, all right.

So I did like a parent dinner with all these other parents and shit. And one of the most normal white mom we've ever seen in her life. And we're getting done our meal. And she just pulls out of Zan. And she's like, all right, time to go. And I'm just like, what the fuck? Like, because in my head, hooray. That's way too crazy for, like, rappers don't do that on the podcast.

Even the ones who take pills and get fucked up, they don't just like pop a Zan in the middle of the interview. This chick doing it out of the table with like 15 other parents. I'm like, oh shit, y'all got different rules out here because y'all would never go outside and smoke a blunt right now. But she'll pop a fucking Zane in front of the whole table. I was like, that's a real bitch right there. I don't know.

With no water. Shit, she probably had a little water. I used to take him with no water. You got to taste it. That should taste so disgusting that you want to like really make sure you. Like soap. Like you want to let your body know in advance. Like, oh, hey, you're going to feel real good.

in about 20, 30 minutes. Just to make yourself feel better while you're feeling that nasty taste. Yeah. That's like getting higher taking a dab. Like you cough so much, you feel like you want to throw up. But as your coughing,

you know, once you're that done coughing, you're going to sit back on the couch and just be like, high as fuck. No, that cough, that cough is you getting higher.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's worth it. You know it hurts, but fuck it's worth the high. Nah, because even when you, like, hit the blunt too hard

and you just like start coughing like crazy, and you feel like that's like the highest that you get? Like, that's way higher than you would have got That's why food's eyes get red. Nah, facts. From the coffee.

So, okay. What do you got coming up? Anything else that we need to know about in terms of, like, what you're excited about and like what's coming forward in the career? You're thinking about project or are you just going video by video? I'm not an EPI album with me and Demon. That's my boy, man. We came a long way from Pigsley, bro.

Y'all foods don't even know. For sure. We got that coming out. That shit's already ready and set to go. I just posted on the IG is going about right now because we, We haven't really been posted shit. I'd be dropping singles. I do content.

I do promo. Like, I don't know how to explain it. I've been savoring everything. It's a coincidence that I'll be keeping up with all this content. And little do foods know this whole time. You don't think I'd be in the studio 3 a.m. You know what I'm saying? I've been cooking shit and I just haven't been dropping it because now the label shit going on.

Like everything's going to be legit now. Like I was already doing this on my own. Like all these ideas are coming up with I'm going to do this crazy shit in the video. I'm going to throw this gang sign up, but I'm going to do this and that. Now these foods are going to make my like, how do I say? They're going to make my vision come to life. That makes sense. So now I just feel like, ain't no one going to stop me now.

You know what I love that you say? I can't really say it right. It's how you say, surging, surging. But I can't. Surgang. It sounds crazy when I said. I can't roll my R's at all, so it doesn't sound like at all, like what you're trying to say.

Everybody be, I'd be seeing the little kids or people be sending me videos of their little kids of them doing it. I always be posted by, like, damn, they need to tell them to pronounce it right. Because you know what I mean? That's like something. Kind of weird, yeah. That's not even weird. It's just like, damn, I don't want the kids.

Little do they know what they're saying, you know, they don't know what they're saying. Yeah. But they'd be saying, Shooter gang, shooter gang. They think I'm saying Shooter gang. I'm saying,

Sue gang, S-U-R. We did a live stream where I was fucking off mushrooms and me and Ralphie the plug kept saying it. Sood gang. Man, it just really rolls off your tongue, even though I can't say it right. All right.

Um, yeah, man. Tommy guns. Going up, going up, going to the moon. The youngest is going up. The youngest in charge. It's happening.

Everybody tap in. If you ain't heard his music yet, you're in for a treat. I wish I was in charge. The big hinte is in charge. The what? The big hente is in charge, but one day I'll be in charge. The big hente? Yeah, big hentai.

You're talking about hentai? Nah, hell not. The big homies. Hentai. This is a loo. You know about hentai? Something like that. Oh, my God.

That's crazy. Hey, bro, you know what's crazy, man? We're all cultures right there. You're Mexican and black dude jerking out to Japanese animated porn. You know, you know what's crazy as fuck? I used to always watch your interviews, bro. For real? This is crazy.

Like, I don't even know. Like, now I'm going to tell you the real shit. You know what I'm saying? This is just like, we talked it out. That was so natural. But I'm going to tell you like, bro, this shit is a trip. Like, I appreciate you inviting me, bro, straight up. All right.

It's my pleasure. It never gets old. I've been here a couple times before, too, though. I already been here before. So it's not like this is my first time ever. I never told you this before you get on saying. I waited for that. You get what I'm saying?

And we just talked to hell of natural. Like if I knew this nigga for five years. No, that's how I know You're destined for greatness Because you just can like go into a situation like that And just act supernatural and everything That's important No, no how like no one taught me this

Like basically how I said it Like I've been quiet my whole life So all this is just like I'm acting how I want to be now And no one can stop me now Like who's tripping off me like I'm from a hood I gang bang like I just got older and I really

I came to a realization of a lot of things like I'm young I got homies behind my bag I happen to be lucky motherfuckerucker be in the right room to be a rapper. You know what I'm saying? I'm not going to fuck this up. I know exactly what I'm doing with all this shit.

All the homies going to eat off this shit and everyone's going to remember who helped them eat. And no one's ever going to do me dirty. If you're nice to everyone, anytime I ask for a favorite, right now I can get a haircut for free. Right now I can get some weed. I'm in LA.

I can get anything I want now. Like, I don't even have to spend money because I'd be showing so much love to people. They can be like, let me give it to you. Don't spend your money. The other person they see them, they're like, oh, let me tax this food. Yeah, no, that's real.

No, I got high hopes for you, man. I think your career is about to go crazy. So everybody tap in Tommy Guns. I appreciate that. If you said it, then it is going to happen. It's going to happen. We're going to make sure it happens. Tommy Guns, no jumper, coolest podcast.

Make sure you like, comment, and subscribe and go turn my man up on all streaming platforms. 21st birthday coming up. Catch me at the strip club. We're going up, dog. Oh, shit. Let me know. I'm saving all my ones from as of today until my 21st birthday. I'm going to save every $1 bill I get.

I'm throwing it all. When I go to the store and I get it. change and they give me ones i put in it in a stack i'm already doing it right now let's go it's time Tommy guns let's go okay