No Jumper - TopHat33k on Dating Chrisean Rock, Black P Stones, Beefing with Crips & More

Episode Date: January 12, 2026

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No Jumber. Coolest podcast in the world. And today, I'm bringing you a very, very important interview with my man, Top Hat, 33K. How you feeling? You know that. I'm feeling good. How you feeling, Adam?

Feeling good, man. I feel like you're kind of one of the up-and-coming superstars in the streets out here right now. So I feel like we got to get the story. You know that? Yeah. You feel of me? For sure. So what's going on in your life right now before we jump into the story?

What you've been on? Shit, I've been running around doing all. all this shit, knocking all this music out, you know, running around different states back and forth, back and forth. I'm being tired, though. I ain't been sat down two, three months. For real? You feel?

Shit being crazy. Okay, for sure. You know, it really got to get up, though, because this shit happened fast, though, like. In terms of just getting attention and everything like that? Yeah, I really wasn't on no shit like that, but she's like, hey, three. Just let's do this, you feel me? I'm like, fuck it. Okay.

We'll circle back and do like your early life and everything, but like, but let's just get into this right now. So where were you at in your life when you met Creschana and everything? And like, were you already feeling like you were on a path to doing something in terms of entertainment and everything? Yeah, I was going to get around to it, but I was just locking in some other shit, you know? Like spending time with my daughters and shit. I was on that type of time. Okay. Because in daddy mode still lives, though.

You feel me? Uh-huh. Yeah. How many kids you got? I got two daughters. With one woman or two? One. Okay.

And that's an ex situation of yours? Who? The mother to the children? Yeah. Okay. Whatever you want to say, I ain't going to word it like that. You feel me, that's my baby mama. Right.

Okay. And so then how did you end up being Christian? Shit. Went to a club, strip club, actually, Cheetahs. Feel me? Bro, what's up with you, biggie? Okay, you went to Cheetahs. You a big strip club guy or is just a once in a while thing?

I don't go outside, bro. I don't party. I don't do none of that shit. So even me going outside, it was like, you feel me? So bro, like, hey, bro, take me in the house, nigger. You ain't going to knots. He like, nah, brother, stay outside with me. We're going to go to the strip club.

I'm like, it's good. You feel me? Then that shit happened. So you just ran into her there? Something like it. And did she approach you or did you approach her? It was, nah. It wasn't, no, even no shit like that.

Bro, I was in the back. You feel me? While she had all that shit going on, my niggia was there too, you feel me? Mm-hmm. Shire Rajah. Yeah, you know, we just crossed paths. So you didn't have to, like, riz her up and think of something smart to say to get her? I ain't even though a nigga like that.

I don't push up on females, you feel me? Mm. I don't do shit like that. How you get girls if you don't push up on them? You gotta have an approach, right? Nah. I mean, just lick at a nigga. Mm.

Any female going to just, uh-uh-uh. So you let them choose? Yeah, I ain't doing no choosing. Feel me? There's always been like that. So you're the type of guy that women just approach? Yeah, bro. It would be all right this game.

I ain't going to lie to you. Really? Hell yeah. So you just been falling in your lap your whole life? I ain't going to say that I'm going to be hitting everything. Okay. That's up. So you get enough of it that you can refuse a lot of it.

Yeah. Only upper echelon gets in? Huh? Only the upper echelon. on get your attention. Yeah, yeah, yeah, something like it. Okay. Cause that don't even matter either though, you feel

me? So you're saying, would you rather be in a long-term relationship and you don't really trust girls who are just trying to get your attention in the short term? Say that one more time. Are you the kind of guy who prefers to be in a long-term relationship? Negative.

No. No relationship. No, it's smooth or whatever. I gotta feel you first though, but then you ain't feel you ain't nothing happening. No, people just be doing shit, just to do it. Yeah, I mean, like me growing up, it felt like we were

everything that moved, but it also felt like, you know, we didn't have a lot of the concerns that y'all have. Like, you got to worry about the set up chicks, the backdoor chicks, the weird app shit pulling up to a different person's neighborhood to get some... It just doesn't seem as pure as it was for me my whole life. Yeah, I don't even deal with that type of shit. I just told you, I got two kids, bro.

I was even really for two many other bitches like that. Right. Definitely. But so what did you know about Christaunt before you met her? Nothing. You aren't?

Nah, I ain't going to say nothing. I just seen here and there on TV and you feel me, nah, but not really much, you know? You weren't really the type to be paying attention to every last detail? Yeah, I got shit going on.

I really be outside. Uh-huh. I don't be having time to sit on the phone and look at all the shit that's going on. Right. When I was trying to figure shit out, you feel? For sure.

So you meet her, do you just keep hanging out from there? Or do you end up, like, hanging out again soon after that? I ain't going to lie to you. That day, we ain't never left each other, bro. Really? Like, yeah, after the old, just like that one day, we were stugging after that. Mm.

Did she know where you were from right away? I don't know, honestly, you feel me? I ain't tell her, like, oh, people? yada yada yada uh-huh yeah so i don't know if she knew because like a lot of people she figured out she probably figured out right because a lot of people were kind of assuming that she was in the market for a blood because things had gone so poorly with her most recent crib boyfriend i never addressed her as a blood or somebody that game like so she would have never knew what the fuck i had going on till then like till she started nervous and day after day like but i never said oh

yada yada yada right you feel so where did you guys go after the strip club Where anybody else go in the house? The hotel or you took her back to the hood? Negative. Why would I take her to the hood? I don't know. That's not like, I don't even be on no shit like that. It's just too, it's not serious enough at that point.

You got really trusted to bring her around your actual house, your actual neighborhood. I won't necessarily say that. She's like a good person. I don't know. You feel me? Instagram and real life. It's different. So, you know, what they see on Instagram is what they see on Instagram.

She ain't liked that in her life will tell me. But did you have your guard up? Were you looking at her? Like, I don't know if I can trust you. And you were, like, moving real carefully, like, as if she might just do some weird shit? I never, you feel me? Nah, I ain't going to say that because she's smooth. And she ain't ever got me that feeling or who will be who will be on their shit?

Like, that's just, I'm in the streets. You got to understand. So that's just how you move with this regularly. Right. So did you wait to make a move or did you pipe on the first night? We got stuff. We got to talk about this, right? That's crazy.

No, no, no. We ain't doing nothing. That's just moving fast. That's too fast. I've been doing this shit, so I already know how to handle it or this situation, you know. You make them want it. You feel me? There you go.

Take the words on my mouth. Right. But I ain't doing no first day hitting nothing. Really? Too exclusive, two exclusive. three two exclusive. Yeah. It's a different story.

Like, yeah, we're going to talk about that another time. But you're not a condom guy, right? You're crazy. Wrap it up. Oh, you wrap it up. Wrap it the fuck up. Damn. Girl like Chrison, though, I don't know if I'd be able to wrap it up.

I would lose. I might lose myself in the moment. Just get too excited. I'm just trying to feel something, you know? I mean, you are dumb, if you just out here, hit a shit with no condom. You don't know. What the fuck these shit?

females walking around with. Oh, I know, but it's like smoking a blunt through a condom. That would ruin it, right? Like, if I told you that you have to smoke blunts through condoms now, it would ruin it, right? Yeah, right, but you gotta hit the females

you know the hit. That's good and right. You feel me? No, I'm not saying everybody dirty, but you ain't supposed to be out here just f***ing shit without no condom. You might get this bitch pregnant, she might not want to kill the baby

because you're a nigger. She might not want to kill the baby. It'd be crazy shit going on. No, I feel you, but. Okay, you know, my tarded ass brain really believes that if a girl is really pretty, if she smells good,

if her legs are shaved, there's no way she could have STD. My brain believes that, even though I know, like, my thinking brain doesn't believe it, but my heart believes it. Yeah, you're crazy. Bad bishops that be having shit.

Yeah. But I also just feel like it's kind of, it's worth the risk. Sometimes. For a good time, you know? Or you just got to get to nowhere like yada, yada, yada, yada. Like, are you even keeping up with your hygiene? You're going to the doctor? You're doing that type of shit?

Take her to the clinic. I know me and females that get hit every day nutty and all the shit. Don't go to the doctor. Yeah, but you'd be hanging out on a fig and shit, huh? Hell no. No? No. So you're not talking about prostitutes.

You're just talking about regular girls? Yeah, you're not talking about females in general. All. Tell me, everyone, every single female. That's crazy. After all these years, I still kind of trust them, just off rip. Cust you, Adam? Yeah.

That might be why I have a problem. Okay. So was there ever a conversation about like, hey, we're seeing each other now? Or like, we're a thing, we're an item? How does that even happen? I already told you, like, when I met her, we ain't never left each other. Then we would just skip a stace of shit. We was on some other shit.

Right. Yeah. Damn. So, like, I just feel like I always see her fighting with dudes. Like were you guys having that kind of relationship or you not did it take a long time before you really start going at it Negative three you're not that type of a nigga okay I ain't doing none of that type of shit So if she tries to fight with you you're just gonna kind of reject it too much of a nigga furry even one of her to fight

Damn, so how many months ago was that that you guys first got involved? Four months ago four months ago and you and you guys are still together That's what you want to say I guess I that. I bet I don't know. You know a lot more than me. You'll never know. I don't know. You feel me the fans know and shit. They see little shit outposts. They know what the fuck going on. But the nigga ain't even on Instagram shit with you right now. You feel me? Okay. But is it the kind of thing where you could take it or leave it? You don't really give a fuck or is it the kind of thing where you're very investing in it? No, she's smooth, though. I ain't going to say invest it or take it or leave it. She's a good person, you know? She opened a lot of doors for her, niggas.

So I won't necessarily say take it or leave. No, she's smooth. She opens some doors for a niggott. She'll let me see some shit out to her some shit. You feel me? Mm-hmm. So that's what I met with it right now. You're just still figuring her at all, bro.

It's only been three, four months, you feel me? Right. You won't know nobody in three, four months. Have you, she's doing boxing? She's doing everything she could do, bro, boxing, surfing all the shit. Really? So are you going to assist her in getting ready for her first fight? She got it.

She locked in with that shit. I'm on some other shit. Oh, yeah. You're not interested in that shit? No, I am. But that's her life. You know, I still got my own life. Mm.

Could you ever see yourself doing the celebrity boxing path? What? Yeah, I have some shit going on, but you know, a nigga's scary, though. Yeah. You already know that. Yeah, they start inventing reasons why they can't fight people. I was trying to knock a bitch nigga out not too long ago. What's the nigga that?

Bino or something. Right. That nigga right there. But you know how shit go, nakes be scared for real. So they get to calling homies and whoopi-wooble, like why he tripping or whoop-y-woofing. I don't know you, fool. I never, you feel me? I don't even know you existed.

Honestly. He goes on some cat shit with your baby mama alive, bringing the nigger up and shit. Wait, so she was hanging out with Beano and then they stopped fucking with each other and then you met her? Or was it? Well, I don't know, you feel me? Like I told you, I don't be keeping up on Instagram with all the shit that's going on. Okay. But you just learned about him through all this.

You never heard of him really before that? Negative. Because he was son of Soldier Boy at the time that I interviewed him. But I guess that didn't work out. Negative. I don't know who the nigga is. Never, you feel me? But you were down for the boxing fade.

What? Said. Yeah, that. See, I was just talking to Beano yesterday. I think he probably would be down. I don't know. I got to ask him, though. I mean, a couple dudes hit us.

Some famous nigga. You know, I don't really be saying a niggas name. But he was like, yada, yada, yada. We got this. We're going to pit it behind this. But then, you know, niggas be calling times out. Yeah. I tried to set up a fight for a former friend,

and they just were like, oh, he doesn't have enough cloud. He's a smoker. Forex strain king pill That would have been legendary right Hell yeah That would have been a good one I would have Yeah but some people just come up with their own excuses

For why these things won't happen But um Okay so that that vlog like so you did a DC baby Drago vlog Hell yeah And then Chrisan just kind of pulls up on you in the middle of it So she just be coming to the section like

Or she just be pulling up on you randomly? You can say that. Yeah. Or I want to see her if she wants to see me, you know? Mm. Shit like that. Right. But I am just going to say it's just a one-sided thing.

Right. Yeah. I mean, it was kind of cool, though, just to see, like, her just being down to pull up there. People talk about the jungles like it's the craziest, one of the craziest in L.A., right? Yeah. Nobody's saying shit or doing nothing. So it's like, who the fuck don't say something to three? You feel me?

You gotta be for real. Right. Yeah. I feel like she would get hate from the other girls from your hood. Negative. You shut that down?

Too much of a nigga. Mm. Yeah, they might feel somewhat, but they ain't gonna never pick it out. For sure. How old are you? 20 years old. 20 years old.

Shit, damn. You got like an old soul for a younger dude. Yeah, bro. I've been doing this for a long time. It feels like you've seen a lot. You can say that. Really?

You could. Any particular incidents that happened in your life that kind of might have turned you a little bit cold? Yeah, but we ain't even going to talk about that. That's a whole other topic. You feel me? I mean, we could be talking about just some shit you saw or not like something you did to somebody. Yeah, yeah, no, I don't do shit to nobody.

I ain't even that type of nigga. You feel me. Okay, what if we focus it entirely on shit that you saw that you did not have anything to do with? Is there like anything crazy that comes to mind from your? your childhood that might have really like change the way your mind works yeah definitely let's see much to me in time yeah just that's just regular I ain't gonna say regular were you were you were born living in the jungles negative you moved there at what age

like nine years old okay where were you living before that I say like like you might not know this about this little school, like Williams Elementary. Okay. Some shit over there, though. But you know, I know niggas, like, I've been around, I've been outside. Mm-hmm. So were your parents gang-related, though? When they moved to that area, did they know what they were getting into?

Negative. So they're kind of square, all things considered? I ain't going necessarily say square. Oh, I call myself square. I don't think it's derogatory, but I feel you. It's nothing wrong with that, though. You have both parents growing up? Yeah.

Okay. They're still both around, they're still together and everything? No. Oh, okay. But I definitely have both of them, though. Right. You got a real good relationship with your dad and everything, or? Mm-hmm.

What kind of guy is he? He's a good guy, you know. I mean, you're a good dad, you know. He did his best. What kind of life advice is he, did he give you? Or like what direction do you try to guide you in? Sports. Sports, sports, sports, you know.

At what point did, what sports were you playing? I played basketball and football, ran track, you know. At what point did you kind of fall back on those? I'll say like 10, 11, 12. But I ain't going to say that necessarily. I was still active like with the shit, you know, but I wasn't. I was falling out of it, you know?

Yeah. Definitely. I got a pass before. I still love it. I still got doors open for that shit, you know. Did you fall back on sports because the streets were calling that you were just enjoying just being outside, running around? I mean, kid gonna be a kid at the end of the day. I was just doing what kids do when they grow up, you know? But you know, hard heads, make a soft ass. Yeah, what does that mean to you? Like, you know, I have to look, I have to figure it all myself, like, like, like, I'm, like, uh, I have to figure it all myself, like, like, uh,

I'm gonna tell you how to give you the blueprint with you. This not the way, but you want to figure it out to itself. So I went that way, but I figured it out now, you know what I'm feeling? Right. So it was like, eh. Was it, in terms of, like, you just being in the streets and shit, was it, like, you just hanging out with all the dudes your age, or were you kind of, like, looking up to, like, older guys from the neighborhood?

I ain't going to necessarily say look up, but I never, nobody my age. I was already, like, passed that, you, for me. Mm. So just you kind of. having like a more mature personality, you kind of just started kicking it with an older crowd. Yeah, I ain't even going to say, these my niggas, this my nigga right here, this nigga been around me since then, like, since a nigga came in and that shit.

Yeah, he don't look 20. He's not, he older than me. Yeah, so I'm assuming he got a few years on you. Yeah, yeah. He looks like he could be a rapper too. Yeah. No? Yeah.

Yeah. He bit his mind to it, you know. Very sure. So what age you guys? put on? Oh, it's probably 11, bro. 11, that's early, huh?

Yeah, probably not even 11, probably 10 or something around that, but there, though, I've been from the set nine years, for sure. What was the put on like? Five niggas. Five. You know that.

For how long? A minute, it's not really know how long, it's how long, what the are you doing like? Yeah. So if you curl up in a ball, that's not good. Uh-uh, uh-uh, do it again. Really?

No falling, no none of that. Damn. Start over. Before, start over. If you ball up, start over. If I got five people on me, for sure, the only move I think I know is curl up in a ball. Negative. Yeah, you can't do that.

Crazy hell, no. You got to just swing. Better fight through everything. Damn. But then after that, you're good. Because I've heard, like, extended put on stories where, like, you just kind of get beat up for, like, a week or something. Like, every time you see somebody, they're kind of whooping on you. A nigga, no, not to play with three.

Like, that did that. That ain't going on. Right. You know that. If you get put on the hood, even when you're older, though, there's still a put on requirement if you're 25? I mean, personally, me, I never understood. Niggas get them put it on.

21, 20, it's dumb. You already at that big-ass age. You should have known like, nah, let me figure it all. Let me get it together, you feel me? What if you're like a grown-ass rapper getting put on the hood? You don't support that? Negative. Negative.

Negative, negative, negative. just get some money bro yeah it feels like that don't happen anymore if you're doing that that late just ain't even no point of the game like people used to talk about Chris Brown and soldier boy getting put on like back in the day like all the time

and it feels like we haven't seen a situation like that in so long what you mean back in the day how old was there 2012 or something like that this used to just be a constant conversation because those are just the two guys

that stand out to me I was like, damn, everybody was talking about them being from places and, you know, growing up in other places and shit. But, yeah, it feels like now with the internet, that would be very complicated. Like, it would just be such a topic of, like, everybody would just be yapping about it. And I don't know. It feels like that would be very different now. Yeah. But you're not condoning that.

Yeah, I'm not. I'm trying to be, you feel? I'm on some other shit. Been on some other shit, though. Right. What do you mean by that, though? Were you saying that you had like the hustler mentality from a young age? Hell yeah.

Been having, like, you know, foreign cars, 15, 16, 17, 18. Foreign car at 15. You know that. That's a complicated. Tell them. Hustle right there. It's a lot better than most people are doing at 15. Feel me?

But I just told you. I already had a different mindset of 15. But I was still around, though. Like, you still going to go goofy shit. You know, Nick of 15. Right. You still gonna do, fuck off, do this, do that, do that, you know? Right.

Damn, yeah. So, so how much is the most money you feel like you've ever seen at one time in your life that you had? Mm. Because the foreign whips of 15 sounds crazy. I said 60. Mm. That's like, though.

That ain't a lot of money, but. 16 15 having that shit. Right. No, definitely. So would you say that you're someone who was less interested in beefing and politics and more interested in just getting some money? Because I kind of feel like those are like the two different types of dudes in the street.

Nah, hell no. On that. I was on that. Oh, okay. Yeah. Get money and still on that. Right. But is it the thing?

The kind of thing where you, I feel like your hood is, you tell me, but it's not that close to other neighborhoods. So you guys are kind of like an island of your own little world. Negative everything, but our shit in the back, everything surrounds us. But it's, I walk across the train tracks. I'm in somebody else. Right, right. Okay. Yeah.

But do you kind of stay in your own shit or like is it very much like your attitude locally is like we're not really going? going around to other areas we're kind of staying in around shit yeah I ain't ever been no nigga I function with different hoods I know people I ain't fucking all I ain't hanging to nobody hood I ain't doing that

strictly the J right at the park definitely do you have any crypt friends a lot at this point just not the ones

that you grew up around probably not the niggas I grew up around like I didn't be in jail with the you feel me. Like I already did all that dumb shit. And socked on niggas, beat niggas up, you feel me?

And I'm sad, but you got to respect the nigga like me because I don't even be on no extra shit like where I ride you. You don't get nothing out of that, you feel me? So can somebody technically be an enemy and your friend? Hell yeah. Got a lot of niggas that respect me. That's going to be hell of confusing to people at home. But basically, like, they're from an area that you just can't get along with on paper.

This is just, that's an enemy. I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna give you example. Okay. Me and him might be cool, but I don't like your boy or, you feel me? Mm. It's that with your boy when I see your boy. But niggie, we grew up is smooth. And you already know we family, niggis good.

Mm. Yeah. Definitely, yeah. L.A. is a complicated place when things like that make perfect sense. Yeah, but you only at L.A. people will know it. But, you know, I got like a different type of They say it'd be niggies from France, Germany, all type of shit. Really?

They'd be fucking me up though. Like, yeah, on Christmas, I was with Mons. She's like, get out to, get out at the store with me. I'm like, fuck it. Get out of the store. Nags want to take pictures and ralphs and shit. Really? He'll be dumped into a nigga from East Coast.

How's that? No, it was crazy, though. The nigga said he'd see me earlier that day, getting some weed. He said he was gonna hop out and say something. But he didn't though, but later. Later that day, I seen him at Ross, and I knew the nigga, he watched me grow up. See, like, yeah, shit be crazy like that. Really?

Yeah. So that's like a whole different category of somebody that you could be cool with that is also technically from an enemy hood. Or if somebody comes up to you, they fuck with you, they want to take a picture. They say that they like what you're doing and everything. And then you kind of realize at some point, like, oh, shit, he's from an area I'm not supposed to get along with. But you're just whatever. He's taking a photo.

Man, he ain't on that. He ain't rub me the wrong way, so it's good. It's all about the attitude. You know, he's still a hard-up, though. Yeah. Do shit like that just to get up close. Definitely. Not for sure.

So, okay, at what point did you start? So you were already thinking about the music side of things, but you just hadn't really pursued it too much, and now you're kind of picking it up again? I'm going to say, I was already making music. I just never dropped it. Mm-hmm. You feel me?

I just felt like that wasn't the right time, you feel me? So I didn't drop it. Right. But, you know, fast forward years later, I'm here. Yeah. No, definitely. I mean, that's what's kind of interesting about you is it feels like you, people feel the star power from you,

even if they maybe haven't really, like, heard the music yet. You know that. It's just something different type of dude. Definitely. So are you planning on dropping music? Like, what's the timetable for that look like? Yeah, I'm going to drop that shit. Probably after this, though.

I don't know, I just have been dependent, but yeah, I got an EP coming for all songs or videos to them. Mm. Let me just let that speak. Definitely. After that, I'm going to just deactivate Instagram because I ain't really into it. Really? Yeah. Is that because you just actually are a kind of ducked off person, or is it a situation where you're, like, intentionally trying to keep yourself rare and make it so that you're not overexposed to the people?

I ain't got nothing to do. with that like i i ain't really with instagram because they gonna miss their narratives and they be doing the police work you feel me and i ain't never been a fan of that and the shit they be talking about so i'm drop this music then i'm gonna deactivate my shit then i'll come back later um drop some more shit you feel definitely get back on the ground but as far as that that's what i'm doing that's what i got going drop these five songs with these five videos then i'm out of here for a second not too long though you know

are you very into the number five yeah that's the set okay so you you guys represent the five over there as well because the five is like a blood thing in general yeah yeah okay you know it originated with us though oh really yeah

because I remember a lot of a lot of five talk in New York back in the day in New York, New York Bloods like when they first kind of started doing that there was a lot of Stop at Five was like a whole camera on Invito thing and shit. Yeah, it's crazy

not too long ago. I just heard about we got like a hood out there or some shit. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, yeah, I'm not 100% sure. But I, see, that's what people

point that out. They say BPS is the only hood in L.A. that originated in Chicago. Yes. Which is kind of crazy. Yeah. That just makes it like a very

rare exception to like most of the hoods from L.A. kind of originated here. Yeah. Are you, are you? You the kind of person that wants to do their homework and like learn about the history of the set and everything? Oh, you did it. Mm.

Got to know that to be from that shit. Do you do your Googles or you just talk to the OGs? No, I've been in it. That shit that's going to come with it. But you've got to know it before you even become this shit. Hmm. Interesting, yeah, because I feel like a lot of people have no clue why their neighborhood doesn't get along with some other neighborhood. So you think it's important to kind of educate yourself on that thing?

of shit. I don't know that shit. Because the homie might ask you like, what defy me? And if you don't know what to find me, you're going to get beat the fuck up. Straight up, nigga. You don't know what to fight me? You get him beat up. Really?

Yeah. Damn. Who made you want to rap? I just always been, like, I ain't going to say nobody. But, like, back then, I really used to music. But I always used to listen to that nigga, Fettywob. Really? Hell yeah.

Fettywob was a crazy era. What? You know, he really wanted me to, like, rap and shit. But did that make you want to put a lot of melodies and, like, singing into your music or not? Hell, yeah, that's what I'm on. I ain't know, no bang, bang, kill, kill. Really? I already been rap about that a million times.

I got shit out, like, oh, shit, you feel me? Oh, really? Okay, because I haven't heard any music. I thought that you just hadn't dropped anything yet. Yeah, no, I got old shit off. Oh, okay. I didn't know that. Yeah, me and bro.

Me and my nigga Chucks. Oh, shit. My little homie. Free my nigga, though. Free my phone. Crazy shit about Fettywap is that he actually caught a crazy fentanyl case with that name. Yeah, it's crazy, though. Like his era around that time, I was still like, then I converted over.

I was becoming me. Let me find him myself. Like, who are you? Yada, yada, yada. Yeah. So I wasn't keeping up to him with all that shit. Yeah, he had going on. Yeah, yeah, he's still locked up off that shit.

But, yeah, because my girl was just asking me, is Fetty Wop alive? I'm like, man, he's fucking alive. I haven't even liked it. I didn't even know that nigg was in jail. Really, yeah. It's crazy because I interviewed his baby mama about some unrelated shit, and she told me, like, right away, like, yeah, he, he's seen the whole interview, like,

immediately. I'm like, damn. That's crazy. I guess they got phones in there, so what the fuck else you're going to do? Watch your baby mama interview. Okay, so I got to assume that when Baby Stone Gorillas were coming out, that that was, very much of note to you because they're coming out of your section

and they were blowing up crazy. Go watch the videos. Because you're in a lot of the videos and shit, yeah. Oh, okay. Were they like dudes that you knew in the neighborhood before they started rapping? Hell yeah, they're my boys. Okay.

So when they first popped off, what was your perspective on? Are you looking at it thinking like, oh shit, I can do this? This is not impossible. I could do this. Yeah, then when they first, First popped off I went to jail for two attempts, bro.

Oh shit. I was seeing that shit from jail though, like, you know? So you're like 15, 16? Hell yeah, I was 16. And you got locked up for two attempts. What happened? Whatever you can say. Yeah, that's another topic.

It's another type. We'll talk about that, but when they blew, I went right to jail. Like, it's probably off of two videos. Really? Yeah, you feel of me? But yeah, though I was seeing that show. I'm like, yeah, then my niggas, the niggas starts seeing like, oh, he in the video. That's you right there.

Mm. Because before them, was there anybody from your area that you were really looking at as being successful, even like people from back in the day and shit? Yeah. Who else? Oh, okay. Oh, okay. Like, y'all know that, like, you know now.

It's my niggin'n'all, my niggins. Y'all know that, though. It's regular, you feel me? That shit went, yeah, yeah. Mm. So, training. Day was filmed in your neighborhood. Do you watch that a lot as a kid and just think that it was crazy as...

Hell yeah. That's just like required education. Yeah. Everybody know that movie. That's a shit national, like, you know? Yeah. Would that trip you out just seeing the street that you grew up on or the streets that you were walking around on a day-to-day basis on the big screen? Yeah, but it... But then it's really, it don't trip a nigga out because that's like, it's the set, you feel

me? that's the shit that's going on over there like movies and shit people coming over there I want to do this and do that What uh Where did the top hat name come from There's no way you've ever worn a top at

I didn't You feel me Like And my name baby chief That's your hood dance Yeah that's my name You feel me I could have won with that But it's like my name

3-2 though But it's like They never know because it's some Blackstone shit. Okay. You ever listen to Baby Chief do it? Yeah. I don't heard of him. I don't listen to his music personally.

Okay. I hear his shit, though. He should go crazy though. Very talented. Yeah. Young kid. But where is... That's another reason I didn't want to be Baby Chief, though, because he already came out.

Oh, he was already. Yeah. So I'm like, you know? Got it. Yeah. For sure. You want to have your own identity and shit. But so, wait, where did the top that name come from, though?

I don't even know where the top hat come from. Matter of fact, I ain't gonna lie. I had an Instagram right before that. My shit was fast break 3-3, you feel me? Then they deactivated. That's while I was in Washington with her while she was doing the baddie shit. And they deactivated with my Instagram.

Like, soon as my shit started going crazy, my shit got deleted. Damn. So I made that, you feel me? I'm like, fuck it. Nigg of you a donkey from over there. So it's like, bro, just top hat. Right.

Damn. So you know what people are, what people say when they say hats these days. That's totally unrelated? Yeah, man. Yeah, I don't got nothing to do with that name. Okay, that's good. That's good. Would you ever wear a top hat for like a video or something? Like if you were wearing like a tuxedo and like a top hat or something just to mix it up? Could be fly. Yeah, I know I'll put that shit on.

Definitely. It doesn't make sense though. Like, yeah. your old username had 33 at the end but then now your name has 33k i'm gonna admit 33k still okay it was that before too yeah why does there have to be a k after the 33 gotta be gotta be that's some that's some la game bang in politics though but i ain't know where to get on that side because that don't even matter no more like okay pass all that game bang and shit bro.

Because I remember when Wack, Wack at one point said that he wouldn't sign a trayway 6K. Yeah. As long as that was his name because he felt like he had relationships with the 60s and he didn't want to be pushing somebody whose name was disrespectful to another hood. Is that consideration on your part or you keeping the K forever? Yeah, I'm keeping the K forever. That's just my name.

3.3. I ain't going to be 3.3. It's a, it's a mean niggas name. 3.5. 3K For sure There's not a lot of basketball players That I give a shit about But we can't kill Larry Bird

He was 33 He was the gray white hope they called him I know I used to watch him Oh okay I like so that type of shit They called him the hick I believe It always kind of stood out to me

I'm like damn he's like the bad ass The most badass white basketball player And y'all got a derogatory nickname for him But, you know, always you went, you seen him play or so? Yeah, when I was a little kid, yeah. Oh, that's your era. Yeah, being 42. You all grew up, dirt and whiskey, for real, though.

Oh, yeah? Yeah, Tim Duncan and shit, them niggas. Yeah, you still, like, rail into it? Not now. You don't pay. They was playing, Kevin Garnetta and them, Paul Peterson, them. After that, same shit with football, like, when Troke, Paula Malo and them was playing,

I was very much into it because I was playing football. Mm-hmm. And when they got out of the league, I just... So if I told you to pull up to a Lakers game with me, are you down? You're doing it. I'll be on that type of shit now. I'm like, dude. I was all not too long ago with the homies.

You said, who was that Charters game versus the Ravens? Yeah. Definitely. Yeah, I mean, it's crazy, though, when we pull up, when we go to a basketball game, we'd be sitting like, you know, not in like the worst seats, but some sort of regular-ass seats. And then you'd be just be looking at the people sitting courtside, you're like, damn, that shit is way too much money, but that is also like so fly to just have

your feet dangling over the line there. It's a player shit. I got to do that certainly. Especially when you're sitting there and you're looking at it. But me personally, I wouldn't want to sit right there. That's too much attention. Really? Yeah.

Everybody looking down there. And all the basketball players are going to be talking about you? Because they're all like low-key, like, wannabe street dudes. They're going to be like, who's that? What's his deal? That's what they do there? I feel like it. I feel like they're always kind of like surveying.

who's like around the ring but they know they can't really around the court sorry if I call it a ring I'm gonna sound like an idiot me and street niggas though and basketball games and shit everybody go

you feel on the court or in the, okay watching the game yeah there, there in the arena yeah yeah it is kind of crazy too

because that's like one place where you know there's a lot of money and I bet and shit right now that's true too yeah but like at the basketball game it's like

that's a lot of people it's kind of like the airport. It's like a lot of people who might not like each other, but they don't got guns in here because you just went through 10 metal detectors to get in here. I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe some people do, but it's got to be difficult at least. Um, okay, so when P4K got picked up for that case, what was your attitude on it? A lot of people started just assuming the absolute worst shit, hating on them super hard. I mean, I don't really got nothing to say about them because, you know, I'm from the same area.

The police watch the shit. So I don't really got nothing to say about that. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like, you know, always like the same thing happens where people get arrested for some shit. There's a million accusations. And then when it actually goes to court or when it actually gets settled or whatever, it's like nowhere near what was promised in the beginning. Hell yeah.

It's always like that. Yeah. So that's why I don't even speak on shit they got to do related to the streets. I ain't got nothing to do with the streets. No, for sure. But yeah, free them, free all those. Yeah, free my nigga. I picked up on that shit regardless of how it goes down. What inspired the face tattoos?

Like, how would you describe this one right here? I mean, everything I got on my body is for a reason. Hmm. You know? Yeah. is that it's not a tear but is it like a that's a bullet yeah it is

like a real serious one too yeah yeah that's my favorite bullet right there what's it called it's a 556 okay nice but like what's the significance of the is it a clown thing is that fair to say it's almost like a

I don't want to say clown if you want to pit it in that category but no it's really some like voodoo shit voodoo yeah is that like a real belief system of yours or is just something you interested in some other shit beep yeah definitely was it ever awkward when or is it I guess

she's getting it covered up now but the blue face tattoos on Chris on is that is that awkward negative it wasn't I told her honestly don't remove it you'll fuck up your face score your face but I really never I don't know nothing about lasers or nothing you feel me but I thought about getting some shit removed you know really at a point in time not the stuff on your face some other shit yeah some of my face oh really some of my face not this stuff interesting which one you want to get removed some shit some old shit um a little cover up would you ever get a girl's name tattooed on you but you already did that yeah i think er i don't know i ain't gonna say everybody but i just the thing like you my bitch get it

I'm gonna get you, you know. The craziest shit is when you're watching Softwood Underbelly and those girls with like five different dudes names tattooed on their face and some of them are crossed out and shit and you're like, damn, these fools are just straight tagging on this bitch. Yeah, them niggis crazy, though. Once one female don't work out, you'll be a dumb nigga to go get another female.

Yeah, but shit, that's like their rap career right there. They're trying to just be the best pimp thinking. be. No, I ain't doing that. No coloring books over here. You don't got no fascination with that whole Pimp world, or is that something that you never really been around that much?

It been around forever. I grew up seeing the shit, so I wasn't really too much a fan of it. See what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah, I ain't want to be none of that type of shit. Yeah, that's one hustle I can honestly say

I would not be very comfortable with Like, there's probably like the last lifestyle that I would really want to live. There's got to be a better way to make a dollar. I know it is some good money in it, though, but good money, you all money and good money. Mm. You feel me? Definitely. But, no, I ain't ever had no fascination to be in no pimps.

These niggas that they call pimps, these niggas is crazy. Mm. And them niggins is not pimping. Really? Yeah, that's not pimping. shit niggas doing nowadays. Yeah, it's just like, they sell you the idea of it that it's one thing,

but then sometimes when you're reading these indictments and stuff or you just like realize what's really going on, you're like, damn, this shit is, this is a grimy way to make a living, bro. I don't know. So the face tattoo, though, that didn't bother you. You were just like not really thinking about it, but now that it's like partially removed,

are you kind of like excited for her to have it gone just because it makes her face, Better looking? She looked good without it. She looked good with it without it, but I mean, that's her. I guess she elevating as a person. She went a shit goal. Yeah, because, like, wax girl,

she got a big-ass piece of him on her back. I mean, if you want her to not leave, that's got to be one of the best things you could probably do. Because realistically, I mean. Niggas still gonna be busting on them of somebody else. Well, if they break up. Batter niggas still smacking niggas. It's just with shit like that.

Right. You know, these niggas got these kinky weird fetishes and smacking niggas names and shit and weird shit, you know. Oh, is that a common thing? Other niggas. You're just a weird, nigga. You like smacking the next nigger face on a bitch or something. You're just weird, nigga. Yeah, I'll probably just ignore it.

Like, honestly, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, you just weird, you just, it's, A weird feeling to even have a girl with a fucking lame back tattoo in general because you'd be fucking her from behind. And like, you don't really got a whole lot to look at besides this tattoo. You just be focusing on it. I mean, it depends. Like, you know, some bitches, you just fucking some bitches, you really have a sex, no? Which do you prefer? It depends.

If this bitch, a little regular bitch, you get a hit, she's, it's a fast shit. Now, I'm into the bitch. And they're going to take it as slow as possible. Get into it. Do this. Do that. do that you know what's uh what kind of music would you possibly put on when you're having an extended sex session i mean you know i'm an old young nigga bro you feel me r cely all

type of crazy shit what you don't know nigga bitch is still low r kelly oh even though i even though i even though i make that face i mean the music is so good nigga nigga go in bro i'm t-fieling all the shit t fly all the niggins like that's in that era you feel me why g you all type of shit. Hell yeah. I feel like as grown as I am now, I'm not really trying to f*** to some rap. I feel like I have to grow

out of that. I mean, if it's already playing in the car, you're doing your one, two, going to do that shit. I mean, it's that. But I told you for a nigga having sex, like a nigga going to play this, some slow shit, you feel? Hell yeah.

But nah, nigga ain't going to pick no rap, nigga. I want to be fucking to know fast shit. Yeah, I'll search up on YouTube, search like sex playlist. And they have a sex playlist? It'll be like a bunch of R&B. But like, there's been a couple times,

or really, like, the last time I did that, I searched up sex playlist, and it was like the music you would hear going into a massage parlor. Like, hmm, just like weird, fucking noise. I'm not going to lie, really.

up the vibe after like 10 minutes my girl was like can you change the song like this shit is weird um okay so what else you got planned uh in terms of everything that's going on so so this this interview drops and then you're going to drop music and we'll just make a whole splash have everybody going crazy yeah yeah that's gonna be dull i'm excited for that yeah then i'm back to Miami with it. I got some of the finish business up there, you know.

What are you doing in Miami? Everything, Twitch and all the shit. Yeah. You know, I don't know why. When I was just in Miami, nigga, I was with Travis Scott all the type of motherfuckus.

Really? Crazy, nigga. Me, O'3, Wally, Travis, Cardi B, Ice Spice. Oh, shit. G. Hurrable, Bame Mama. This is all at the club

or was this a party? Yeah, we was at booby trap, but, you know, we were sectioned off. Um. Certain people. Cardi wasn't in our section, Ice Vice Team. You know, somebody else.

I mean, I want to speak on that one. But yeah, Travis, what's the streamer dude name, Ben or something like that? Mm. I don't know. Oh, my, yeah. But was your perspective as like, damn, all these famous people are kind of just regular? Or is there anything you were surprised by in terms of what they act like? Not that shit, regular.

I don't know. around it you felt me right around yeah they're human beings they just famous you know yeah for sure um wait i i wanted to ask about this so like would you say that you actually have beef with blueface or did you just kind of go off on them that one time no i don't got beef of blueface i got beef with his hood like our huss don't f*** each other okay but you don't have nothing against him in particular yeah no but when he says crazy shit about christ Sean, that doesn't kind of trigger you to be annoyed by him. Weirdo-ass, nigga.

It's your baby mama, bro. You got a whole kid by her. So for you to even feel a little swear, yada, yada, yada, yada. Weird, nigger activity. But because it's like relationship drama, you kind of try to stay away from, like, getting all involved with it. Yeah, that's, that's a day ballgame, not mine. That's her baby daddy.

For sure. Have your kids hung out with her kids? hasn't got to that point yet they could be friends for life though it could be like a whole little daycare maybe maybe for sure

anything you want to say to the people out there anything you got going on that we should know about no y'all you really heard I just gonna drop this shit for y'all people can stop sweating me like what you doing yada yada yada three why you ain't did this why you ain't this why you ain't that. Gonna give it to you all.

You know what I'm trying to hear it for sure. I'm trying to see what's going on 100%. But anybody want to shout out? No. Sorry. Anybody who wanted to shout up? Oh, you? My nigga fango, though.

You feel me? This is my nigga. Bless what you be like killer. The Jay, they know that. You feel me? They already know where a nigga coming out of where where I'm from, bro. They know that. They're going to watch it.

really gotta do too much. One of my porn homies is actually from the jungles as well. My man Ray Black. Who the fuck is that? Don't say it like that. This guy's a legend. What? You don't know Ray Black?

Hell no. He'd probably been gone for a long time, but. Hell fucking, uh. This is for a, you know what I'm talking about? What's up? You never seen him? Yeah, negative. Oh, no.

He'd be laying it down, though. I don't know. I ain't into the porn shit with other niggins. I'm a solo type of nigga. I feel it. But, you know, got to jerk off sooner or later, you know. Yeah, what's up with you, though? How you been?

What you got going? So I did my first boxing training this morning. Yeah. So. That's what you're going to get into? Thinking about it. 42? Why not?

Hop right into it? My physical prime is pretty much over, but why not? Let's be a boxer. Yeah, yeah, I know you can do it. That's what I'm on too, though. That's what I need to really get on, though. I like fighting, bro. Yeah.

So I need to get in our boxing shit. It was a crazy feeling, just the feeling of actually, like, even just doing it. You're talking about boxing shit? Yeah, I just did like an hour of training with this dude. But just keeping your fucking arms up there is, man, they started to get so fucking tired. I'm like, wow, I really got to get my shit together. So what you trying to do with it, though? Like, what you're trying to have a physique.

You're trying to be big, small. I'm just playing it by here. I'm just seeing what happens. You don't really see you fighting, though? Or are you just training the train? Well, the person that I most recently challenged to a boxing match turned it down or actually hasn't even responded. And also...

Who is that, though? Well, also, he's missing a hand at the time, at this moment. So, I feel like... That probably won't happen realistically. But, you know... Keep the door open. Say how it goes. Yeah, I think that all that shit over for him.

Mm. It might be tough to even get licensed to box at that point. Yeah, that shit over with it. Mm-hmm. Were you a fan of his? Hell no. I mean, he is smooth dude. I ain't got none against him.

Oh, okay. But you just know that. I don't like them nays for nothing. Yeah, I figured. Um, all right, top hat, man. I'm excited to see the music. Yeah, it's good. We're going to drop that shit after this.

Let me got these five songs, five videos coming. Let's get it. All right. Top Hat, go find his music. Once you see this, the music's already going to be out, right? Yeah. We'll link to it in the description. You're going to drop it.

Yep, it's good. Facts. Shout out, my boy, Top Hat for coming through. Appreciate you, Maine. No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world. Like, comment and subscribe. Drop a comment down below. We're trying to read that.

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