Torae on Being a Rapper Turned Media Personality, Interviewing Nipsey Hussle & More!
00:00The Sharp Tank, no jumper, sharpest, coolest podcast in the world.And today, we got a real one in the building like myself by the name of Toray, man.What's going on with my guy today, man?How you feeling, brother?Good, good to see you.I'm feeling good.I'm feeling good.No doubt.
00:17How was me?How long you've been out here?Oh, I've been out here a couple days, you know what I mean, sending to some business,doing some shows and going to concerts.I went to the Lauren Hill.It was crazy.I definitely want to know what that was like, what that experience was.You know, man, I never saw
00:30like Lauren Hill in the Fugees liveI never thought I wouldbecause they was kind of all doing their own thingso yeah, I had the opportunityshout to my man Jerry Wonderyou know what I mean, that's my brotherand I hit him upI was like yo I'm gonna be on the West Coast
00:42and he was like yo the tour's on the West Coastpull up so I pulled up and I got a chancelike Lawrence set was crazyand the Fugees and they had special guestsFuji's crazy yeah yeah that shit was crazyNause came outBe real group of Fugees thereYeah everybody was there
00:56Wockleff and El BoogieYeah yeah thatto make sure nobody was missing.No, everybody was dead, man.Everybody, then Be Real came out.So I got a chance to see Maka Haka just killing me in.It was crazy.Nas came out.
01:09Who else?Wayne came out, Lil Wayne came out.It was a crazy show.How was the crowd?Was it real diverse or was it like?For sure.For sure.For sure.
01:17Me personally, I wasn't really with the crowd.You know what I'm sure?But when I looked out, you know what I mean?When I looked out, Yonahna, nah, I was in a mix.I was in a mix, show.I was in a mix show.I'm like, how you do it?Like, I wouldn't actually hit the crowd.
01:31No, it was, you know, you know how West Coast it is, though, right?It's just a lot of people out here.You know what I'm saying?You're going to see your black people.You're going to see the white people.You're going to see your Mexicans.You're going to see some Asians.Like, you know, it's kind of like New York.
01:42It's real diverse melting pot type.See some Asians up there listening to some food.And it was wild Haitians, of course.Yeah, it was wild Haitians.They had their flags and shit up.Yeah, it was crazy.That should have to be dope right there.For sure.
01:53For sure.You feel like, got to ask you your opinion.You feel like Lauren Hill's one of the best in the hip hop game?You feel like she's the best female, like above a cardi, because she was there before all these girls, man.You know what it is?It's a hard answer.It's a hard answer because she only really gave us one solo album.Yeah.
02:13Based off that one solo album, she's the greatest.But she just don't have an extensive body or what.You know what I'm saying?Yeah.The Fuji's album, you know, the first one was cool.The score was incredible.and then she gave us her solo.So based off that, I mean, phenomenal,
02:28but I would have love to have more work from her.Speaking of music, early days, getting into music,what was that like for you?Growing up in New York City,hip hop was everywhere.You know, I'm a 90s kid, so I'm coming up.All the cars is riding by playing that shit.All the hustlers is in front of the building
02:46wearing that shit.They got their radios, you know what I mean?They got good jewels and cool velour tracks.They're good.They ain't cutting the shit.like they do it.Yeah, yeah, good, good, could you.I mean, you got some good shit on, no.
02:57That's sharp-wring crazy.Thank you.I appreciate you, man.I just hate how these days they be like,they be cutting the gold.Oh, man.I don't like that's thing.You could feel the weight.
03:08You can feel like they cut the gold.Like, I don't feel like they, man,they have something really just all, solid gold.Man, you're paying these days, man.That's what I loved about.Yeah.Yeah, nip ain't really diamond.Yeah, he ain't diamond and shit out.
03:20He wanted that.Because, nigger, if anything ever go wrong, you know what I mean?You don't go get our money back.I at least got some bread.That's why I like that pretty old roller you got on your wrist.No diamonds.Yeah, I keep my watches playing.Because those.
03:34Those whole value certain years.Right.You know what I'm saying?Certain styles.And they only go up in value as the years go.Put diamonds and shit like that decreases the value.Depreciates the value of a roll.The chains and shit is whatever.
03:47These just ain't going to be, yeah.You know, you can't really much.But the watches, I keep all the watches playing.Unless somebody want to gift me some shit.Yeah.I take an ice.gift, but if it's coming out on myaccount, we're going to play in Jane. If I'm not mistaken,
03:58maybe you correct me, Rolex doesn'tdo, they don't dobuss downs. They don't make bus downs perset. Nah, they don't bust them down, no.You might get a, you know, like you can getdiamond, like they'd be having baguettesinside the dial on the faceand shit like that. But yeah, right,
04:14but no busies. So for anybodycome up and talk about, man, I got this from Rolexlike this bus down. You got it from a goodjeweler. That's your man. He might have told you so,Yeah, man.So you'm saying, getting into music for you, what was your, how was it for you?Like when you first got in, like this was what pushed me to cross over and actually do this myself.Dog, I never wanted to do nothing else, honestly.
04:41You know what I'm saying?Like I said, just coming up in the time I came up in the environment I came up in, thesound of the music, the style of the dress, the language that they spoke, all that shit was me.You know what I'm saying?Like all that shit spoke for.me and spoke to me. And sowhile everybody was like on some othery'all'm gonna be a firefighter, I'm gonna be a man
05:00I'm gonna be a cop, gonna be a gangster. I was like,I'm gonna be a rapper, you know what I mean? And they laughat you when they said when you said you wanted to be a rapper?Nah, not. You know, becauseI mean when I'm talking to my friends and shit, we allaround the same age, so we all get it.It was really the older generation like, you know,when you get into your parents and shit and they're like,
05:16what you're talking about like a rapper? Like,because you gotta thinkit wasn't even rap music when they was comingup. So I'm about to tell them, I want toinvest my whole life into doing something that they just hearing about that never even yeah it's a loti get it as a parent now you know what i understand it but back then i was like i was super focusedheadstrong on on doing this shit yeah first song first even if you didn't drop it like just somethingthat you went in even just oh shit come everybody remember my first song this is so funny because it's
05:46a full circle moment come on the first shit i wrote was it like uh um it was like um not what youcall that shit. Based off of LL'sbooming system, right? He was talking about the cars and shit.So I was talking about my bike.Some real corny shit. You know what I mean?He had the booming system. I had the banging bike.It's okay.Yeah, that's all right, though. That's all right though.
06:10Because the full circle shit is now, you know, I workwith LL on Rock the Bells and all that shit.So it's just crazy that you took me back to there because, yeah,that was the first shit I can remember was the rhyme about my bike.So you based it off that. You said, okay,well, he rapping about his car.you decided I'm a still keep it real.I'm just riding.
06:26Yeah, and that's always what I was done.Not the front, but I ride bike.I'm on.I'm on a bike.A two-wheel pedal bike, not even a motorcycle.You know what I mean?Do you remember like the first couple bars how you started?We're not doing that though.
06:41I'm not even high or nothing.Like we can't do that.That's dope right there, man.What do you feel like, we feel like music brought you?Like the music, what did it bring you actually?Man, everything, yo.Everything.You know, like I said, the desire to do it, the passion to do it, all that shit was innate.
07:03You know what I mean?Like, it wasn't, I wasn't no other route I was going to take.So it fulfilled me in that way that it allowed me to express myself and, you know,create and use my creative energy.But also just the lifestyle that I've been afforded, you know what I'm saying, the opportunities that came from it.All the shit that I do, people like, yo, you do so much shit.there's no radio show,there's no acting,
07:26there's no ghost writing,it's no none of that shitwithout me being an emcee as a springboard.You know what I'm saying?Like that's the shit that set it all off.That was a catalyst.So for me,it's everything, you know,
07:36and I still love it.You know, like,when I'm in a mood,I listen to certain shit.You know what I mean?Good mood, bad mood and different,whatever, certain music that I listen to.When I feel creative,
07:47I'm writing some shit.Even after the Lauren show,I was so inspired.I started putting bars togetheras I was walking.out the venue i'm putting eight bars together you know i'm saying just like that shit so it neverstops but the music is everything to me bro was there any like was there any other groupsor outside the hip-hop genre was there any other people that inspired you that wasn't rap
08:09influenced oh for sure i mean i was just having this talk about if you like a little rock manyo i was just having this conversation yesterday bro good music is good music is genrelesslike the dope shit i'm gonna listen to mcahole of notesI'm gonna listen to Patty LaBelle, I'm gonna listen to Lufa.Yeah, I'm gonna listen to Duran Duran.You know what I'm saying?Yeah, all that shit.So like dope music, even country shit.
08:33You know, I might pop in.There you go.M.Muck and Leanne Rimes or, you know what I'm saying?Yeah, or some old school shit, though.Yeah, or some old school shit.Yeah, I'm old school nigga.Even my, even my all genres is old school shit.
08:44But that's how I know you really came from the 90s because that was the people you named off.Right.Of people that was going on.For sure.Yeah.Yeah.Twains.Right.
08:53Right.Right, right.No doubt, before Gwen Stefani left.Like, I listen to all the fly shit.As long as this dope music.A little bit of Black Street.Of course.Yeah, I mean, yep, yep.
09:03Hey, what was one of your favorite joints on Black Streetdid you remember listening to?Black Street, one of my favorite joints.Joy, Joy is tough.No diggity, of course.No, digity.I mean, that's a classic.Yeah, yeah, for sure.
09:17Hickegon.Yeah, right.Until somebody go sample it.Somebody got sample it.Yeah, still somebody sample that.Right.For real, for real.For sure, for show.
09:25That's live, though, to know, like, you weren't just based in your career and how youlook at music just off the hip-hop, but overall.For sure.You know?That's how you learn.That's how you grow.That's how you get better as a creative.You know what I'm saying?
09:40Even, like, me, listening to R&B shit, listening to jazz shit, it helps me as anMC.I'm finding different cadences in different pockets and instrumentation.You know what I'm saying?Like, wow, damn, you could do that.Or I'm like,damn, I can find a pocket within what they're doing right here and come with a whole new flow.So all of that shit, I think, having music knowledge and music theory for sure, you know what I'm
10:03saying.It helps you all around the board no matter what you're doing in this shit.Yeah.No, and, you know, not to even go off a topic or nothing, but I think it's like that in football.A lot of receivers and people like that are go take ballet.Yeah, yeah, yeah.Just to help their footwork out, you know.You got to be open-minded, man.
10:23You're going into anything if you want to be the best.If you want to be the best.Correct.So I do respect that.You're like, man, I just keep an open mind because I want to be able to be open and be free when I actually do music.Absolutely.That shit is dope right there, man.For real, I really do respect that.
10:39Yo, yo, your upbringing up in New York, man.What was that like other than the music, man?How was it?Man, did you come from a good home?Rich home, poor home, mid home, you know?Had a little bit, you know, but we still made it through.Now, we definitely was poor.You know what it was, though, bro?
10:58Even when you don't have much, when you got love,you feel like you're not missing nothing.You know what I'm saying?Like I ain't have all the joyans.I ain't have all the fly shit.You know, my parents wasn't together.My pops was dealing what he was dealing with.My mom's was dealing with what she was dealing with.
11:14But it was love.I never felt downtriding.I never felt like we f***ed up.You know what I'm saying?I'm like, damn, we're in the hood.It is what it is.But my people on to the left and the right of me,they're the same way, but it's love, right?
11:28You know what I'm saying?And I think love can compensate for certain things that are not there.You know what I'm saying?I don't never remember no going to bed, hungry, starving.You know what I'm saying?We ain't never get put out of no shit like that.Like that might not have had the brand new Jordans when they released that day.I didn't have them that year or the year after.
11:48That's why I got them all now.You know what I mean?This is like, you know what I mean?this is like psychological type shit right but yeah so yeah we you know I grew up in the hood mansingle parent household it was the 80s the 90s was crazy but my mom's did the best she could andand we still in this tight to this day and she's super proud of me and I'm super proud of her because weboth figured out a way out the hood right now us talking about being broke and having moneyI know that you know being a rapper's experience is expensive you know is that something that you
12:21experienced as well you know having to go through that you know it's crazy bro all the rich richas i know is the cheapest month don't spend no bread i'm learning now i'm like damn because peoplelook at me like oh it all going to take care of it or if they need some and if i'm the type ofperson if i can help you i'm gonna help you you know what i'm saying but people will reach outif they need something and shit so i find myself extending my generosity a lot but the people thatreally really got it my friends that's really really up don't spend no bread yo evenEither they comp or they're not buying nothing.You know what I'm saying?
12:53So for me, you know, I'm over the material type shit.Like first, when you first start getting bread,you want to look like you got moneyand you want to buy a bunch of shit.And then after you get the second bins,you're like, this just cool.You know what I'm saying?After you get the other house,
13:09you're like, it's comfortable.You know what I'm saying?No, you know what you start thinking?Like, I should have saved my money.Yo, it's just stinks.It's not giving you that, that feel that you're looking for.It wears off, bro.It wears off.
13:21Now I'm gonna got buyer's remorse.Right.Or I'm still sensible with my purchases and shit, but I'm definitely more evolved in that.I understand.Like, I'm a lot of that shit for a couple weeks, months, whatever, and then it's just going to be whatever.You know what I mean?So let's do some shit that's really makes sense.I've always said this.
13:41I've always said this right to help us try to stack some bread.I feel like I've said this many times, dog, and I want to tell you because I'm like, damn, my mother can go, you can make,let's say make 30,000 last night, right?Swear up and down, you're about to put up 29,000 of this.You're going to put a thousand of it in your pocket.You're going to live off this for the week.You'm saying?You wake up in the morning.
14:03You got that early morning.You know, like you wake up in the morning, you're feeling good.I think I'm going to go shopping.What's it going to earn for me to go pull out a few bands and go shopping real quick?You know, I always say by the time five o'clock comes around.If you still want it by then, go get it.Don't just go off the goal.impulse in the morning. You know what I'm saying?
14:22I'm just feeling good. Wanted to go to the mall.Wanted to go get some new shoe.Yeah, you refresh this shit.Now you're in the Beverly Center, spinning bread.Now you're in the Beverly Center and you're down 3,500 before 12 o'clock.You know what I'm saying?Like, I always say this.If you still want it, still have that same feeling by the end of the day, then go by it.
14:40But nine times out of 10, shit will happen throughout the day.You'll be happy that you didn't even do that.That's a fact.You'd be off that shit.Like, man, I'm glad I ain't going to do that stupid that shit.I wish I would have to talk to you when Ifirst got to LA.Yeah.
14:53Yeah.Yeah, it's something about out here, man.The weather is just nice as, you know, especially coming from New York and starting to getcoal and shit.When I'm out here, I spend more bread.Spend more bread.Well, L.A. is expensive just within itself.Right.
15:09You know what I'm saying?So being out here, I feel like you got to pick and choose what you want to do.Like it's cool to go out a couple days, but you got to go stack up another few, three or four.You know what I'm saying?They go back out another day.Can't do it every day.You're going to not only burn yourself out mentally,but burn yourself out financially.
15:27That's a fact.So you got to be smart.Find things to do in your house.Man, you want to bring the club to you.Got yourself a nice little bar bottles,you know what I'm saying,that you could pick out of from time to time, man,how you smoke, you know, invite you a lady friend over something.
15:40Make the club at your house.It's cheaper.Not me.I'm showing my wife is home.I'm good.Well, even with wifey, like, man, y'all have to turn it in.You don't always got to be outside.spinning money because man bro is crazy around here everything in his mama costs look at the gas
15:56prices look at living right cost of living crazy what they're going to expect you to do around hereit's hard for you to if you don't make an abundance of money you or have a roommate man you'regonna be you're just gonna be living yeah that's about it that's gonna be able to pay rentyou're saying and maybe grab a couple little things until your next paycheck yeah you got to berich to be broke out this month yeah yeah but that's why i see thoughNow that's why I see why people are so frugal around you, you know what I'm saying?Like, you know, Armenians, these, man, they don't be buying shit.Them niggins be rich as fuck.
16:30Right.Going right back to the hills.You know what I'm saying?Because they're stacking their bread.Stagging me brink.Us, bro, we got a lot of vices, a lot of, it's a lot of temptations that pull us, the jewelry store, the shoe store.Oh, f***.I'm going to shop Bell Rose today.
16:42Damn, I want that real quick.It's not going to hurt.Pass that shit up.That's a fact.But I wanted to really back in that, like, that's what I'm trying to ask you, like, just I put back to the music.to the music have like music is expensive have you ran into that like you know having to payto play um not really not really i invest in my craft you know what i built the studio at the houseshit like that so that's an investment in you know what i'm saying that with a great r oi but
17:12i never like pay you know you got to pay you got a publicist you got to i'm i'm one of thosepeople that if you work in you deserve to get paid you know what I'm saying I'm not tryingto nickel and dom nobody I want nobody try a nickel and dom me I evolved to that you knowI'm saying before niggum I'm trying to get it figured out because ain't none of us got no bread butif you work in you definitely should be getting paid um for me but like to payDJs and you know any like pay all under the table type shit nah my shit basis based offrelationships you know I'm saying or if you got somebody working your record and theytaking care of shit for you right not everybody got
17:47that charisma baby to walk in the room and be able to move somebody and be like this a likablenigger right i want to fuck with his shit you're saying give me your music give me everything thatyou got man i want to put it out for you you know not everybody got that charisma walking in theroom but doesn't necessarily mean that they don't have good music that's a fact you know what i'msaying so i feel you're like well sharp for me it wasn't really necessarily money it was relationshipsrelationships is key and and man being not how to barter you know what I'm sayingLike one of the things I learned early was everybody got people running up on them asking what they can do for them.Yo, can you help me?
18:24Yo, I needed it.Don't go with the ass.Yo, go with the offer.Oh, my man.You know, it's crazy.I Googled you.Your website, I do website.Check this out.
18:33Oh, shit.That's crazy.Y'all can do your Shopify page.I, uh, I design shit.I can make your, you go to people with an offer.They automatically paying attention.You know what I'm saying?It's like figure out what you can bring to the table as opposed to take away from the table.
18:47does it keep you around longer and then you can get to you oh you know what my man did myshit yo what you need bro you oh you got a oh you need a verse oh you got a record oh i got you no workyou know i mean and then that's how you start to build your relationships out and i think that'sthe best advice you could give because a lot of people is just coming with the give me give me give methe viewers needed to hear that yeah give me give me if you ain't pretty much you're saying ifyou ain't got no character find some find some whatever it is about you what's your thing you knowwhat I'm saying and then figure out how to utilize that shit to the best of your ability.Because everybody's got a gift.
19:20Everybody got a gift.It's the way that you tap into it that can make it sellable.That's a fact.You know what I'm saying?And make yourself approachable.You know, where somebody might see you, it could be, you know, high profile celebrity.You be in the club, you shunny, he says security or she says, hey, go tell them.I want to talk to them real quick.
19:37I just want to see what they own.No doubt.Because they're just living in the mix.When I get up around, I feel like this.And for the viewers, I want them to know, if you're, if you're,moving like in a rap game media game whatever you get up around celebrities you getaround somebody of that substance act normal got a act normal don't act like youbecause they deal with that shit all day anyway already you know what I feel like a
20:00famous person would want is to be treated normal yeah because that's somethingthat they don't they don't get so that's why I feel like you say that's where yourcharacter is coming because you're like I'm a likable nigg it's easy for me toget up on them real quick you know and they they're gonna take a life and we justchilling we're cracking jokes you having fun yeah i don't want no autograph i don't knowno picture no yeah yo the spots i be in the shit i be doing bro youbecause would never know i'm not you know i mean like the shit that do make it to my social mediathis is after the 17th interaction or you know sometimes mcuhlea phone out like yo let's get this
20:33vail real quick a celebrity and shit but for me you i don't lead with that you can't leave withthat shit bro because people be like they they get that shit 24-7 like you said they be off thatYou've been doing media and shit, haven't you?Yeah.Man, how's that experience been for you,especially Toray crossing over from, you know,the music side to the media side?Because it's similarities because, you know,
20:57you're actually talking about what's going on around here.You know what I mean?And what's going on in the music space?But it's still different.It's a whole different ballgame.Because you're not rapping for it now.Now you're talking for it.So it's a little bit different.
21:11You know, what's the experience been like for you?For me, it's been different.Yo, I didn't really have any media aspirations, if we're being honest.I wanted to rap, tour, do all the rap shit, and then move into television and film.So the opportunity we talked about-I've heard your name ring bells before I even met you.I knew tour right.I was like, oh, shit, that's coming to the day.
21:32Good things.Like, it was good, no, nothing for good things.No doubt.You know what I'm saying?No, I'm a good thing.My relationships got me into radio.I was spending so much time going to serious, pumping my records, you know what I'm saying, interacting withthe DJs rapping on their shows or last shit.
21:47One day my man DJ Eclipse was like,yo, I need a co-host for my show.This is a man who helped me tremendouslythroughout my rap career,so I couldn't be like, no, fuck out of here.So I was like, all right, I give it a shot.I try it.And I ended up enjoying radio.
22:00And I did his show for a few years.And then I branched off and got my own show.I'm about to hit 10, what we're in, November?10 years, 10 years having my own radio show this month.Crazy.That's crazy.That's crazy.Congratulations.
22:13I appreciate it.Yeah, decade, decade.A decade of this crazy shit.And you know that, that springboarded into being able to do television shit.You know what I'm saying?You can host it on radio or we're going to host, we're going to put you on TV.Can you read a teleprompter?Can you be funny?
22:29Can you be charismatic?That's how the TV shit happened.And I always wanted to act.So then that just naturally brought me into the acting shit, the movies and the TV shows and all of that.So just being in the whole public space and being the creative and the entertainer,All that shit is encompassing for me.It's like a holistic thing.What's some of the best moments or memories while you were rapping or touring?
22:51Man, shit.I'll give you a memory.The very first time I went on the road, I think it was 2006 or seven.Shout to my man, Master Ace, my big homie, Ace, Marco Polo, EMC.And he brought me out as an opener.We in Canada, right?And I ain't had no passport.I couldn't even travel and shit.
23:12I had to go right before the tour, get a passport, all that shit.And we in Canada, and in my mind, I'm already kind of setting up the scene.Like, yo, you're the opening act.Obviously, they're here to see the headliner.Go do your 15 minutes.You know what I mean?And just try to win some of the people over.But in my wildest dreams, I didn't think that I already had fans and supporters in the crowd.
23:34So when I'm rapping and they start rapping along and they know in the songs,this is first Canada and then we go over to Europe.And my mind is blown because I'm like, damn.First, that's the, I learned the power of the internet.I was like, the internet got this music traveling all over the country,all over the globe, all over the world.And the second thing I learned was just that you never know how your shit,some shit you write in the projects in the hood is impacting people millions of miles away,
24:01thousands of miles away.So that was just the first memory, like going on stage and rapping and seeing my becausethat didn't speak the language, rap it back to me, was crazy.It's got to be crazy.going over did you have more fun because how you've done shows and tours here in thestates right yeah have you had more fun doing them in the states or was it overseas way more funoverseas bro i'm so spoiled everybody say that she even basketball players like bro i'd ratherplay overseas bro that it take a lot to get me to do a show in the states just because you know
24:32this is too cool for school it's 80 rappers in the crowd it's 44 managers where's the mrs that justlove the music 000 critics yeahcritics you know what I mean so I just I started my career really overseas like myfirst touring happened like I said first Canada and then we did Europe so we did30 dates and like 35 days of some shit so that's a lot of that's a lot ofshow's Canada to Europe right so it wasn't it wasn't back-to-back so the firsttour was Canada that was like maybe two weeks and then some months later we did theEurope shit but getting overseas and and just man the hospitality
25:11the love for the hip-hop the love for the culture the love for dope musici was like then i come back to new york and i'm like yo throw your hands up andthen it's like i'm like yeah now take me back to germany bro he said theythrowing their hands up before we even stage they got they ready they they did to have a goodtime they did have a good time they're not there for no other agenda they might want to take apicture you sign them on t-shirt or some vinyl but they did enjoy the music and that's what ilove the people that genuinely enjoy the shit.Well, it's hard here when a nigga wants to enjoy your music,
25:45but he too worried about if the ops is standing over there around the corner and what they'reabout to do after your show.That part.Yeah, I'm saying?So I feel you on that.People genuinely, like in other places like that across the world, people genuinely do justto come out to come out of a good time.They keep the riffraff out the door.
26:01And they appreciate you coming, right?They know this guy from Brooklyn.I don't know what that shit is at, but I know it's far.So they appreciate you being there.So they're going to show up and have a.good time and rock with you. Did you already have aspirations to branch out at any point?Like just branch out just by yourself, you know? Yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean, when I was younger,I did solo work. You know, I was in a group, but for me, it was always, you know, Toray.
26:26I'm a bill. Before we called it a brand, I was like, I'm going to build up my name. You're going toknow Toray the rapper and you're going to love him so much that you're going to put him in the TVshow and you're going to love that so much that I'm going to end up getting a sitcom and I'm going to dosome movies like that was always my mindset because I was influenced by Pock I was influenced bylatifa I was influenced by LL kid and play you know I'm saying for sure I'm T I'm kicking itwith IST the other day and he told me he discovered my music on social media he was scrollingand he's like oh the fuck is this he heard some shit he's like oh this thing going crazythen he said he started you saw when he started following me then he was like you start checking
27:06in all the other shit he's like oh you do interviews you rap you host he like this isthis nigga's dope and that shit for me like I've been a fucking ice tea fan since I was a kidand he's not fucking with so for him like when I saw him follow me and I ain't one ofniggins shot to follow and posted like weird shit but I was just like I took a beat like wowI see I felt like that when I met Warren G and he followed me crazy because I was like damnWarren G that's Warren G that's Warren G that's yeah I grew up to this nigga and I thisnigga and I this thing with my working with what I got going on love that shit it itdefinitely does put a little bit more pep in your step in how you move and be like,
27:43damn, I'm probably on the right train.You're in the right, yeah, you're in the right path.So that's called for you and T to actually engage like that.And he fuck with real ones, like he fuck with a lot of Brooklyn people.Obviously, he spent a lot of time in New York shooting and shit.Yeah, yeah, yeah, speaking of warrants, summer time in the LBC, my shit.Yeah, yeah, that's my shit, yeah.You know, I gotta get him in here.
28:01I talked to his, I talked to his publicist.When I talked to her, they were just about to get ready to go on tour.So all I got to do is just shine back in.Yeah, spend a block on that.Spend a block on it.I want to watch that one.Yeah, I want to watch that one.Hell yeah.
28:16I grew up on G-Funk, you know?And like you said, he was like,that was a dope era.You know what I'm saying?Because that was the 90s, you know what I'm saying?Like, that was that 90s era.A G-Funk, you know what I'm saying?It was like smooth gangster shit.
28:28You know what I mean?It was a lot of harmonies.It was more melodies and shit.The beats was ill.Like, yeah, Warren G brought a lot to the game, bro.You're talking to I.You're talking to I.give you any like news you can use like a piece of game that you walked away with man just one
28:41piece like when you talk to him in the setting that we was in it wasn't really that but we connected and sonow we connected now we're going you know take it further and shit but just knowing like like yousaid when you see people that see you know you on the right path and shit and like you said hehe don't what he said he's like i don't be fucking with a lot of people like he's he startedliking comments and you know he put fire emojis and shit like he's older he don'tgot to do, you know what I mean? Like, that shit is like, that shit being the world of me,bro. My offense, I'm surprised he even know how to work social media. That guy's, that guy's not,I'm saying, like, I love his team, not young. Yeah, but you're saying.
29:17Yeah, he's OG. He's a OG for real. For him to like, you'm saying, reach out and extend,like, hey, young, me, I see you. Yeah, that shit was fired. That's got to be fired. That's got tobe a dope moment. What was, what was your first opportunity in media? First opportunity,whether you turned it down or you took it. Oh, yeah, so that was DJ Eclipse. You know,So DJ clips.You ran with that was your first move.Yeah, that was the first thing I really was able to do in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, on a wide scale.Um, because he was on Sirius X-M.
29:47He had a, uh, a mix show.He still got the mix show, him and DJ Riz.And it was on some late night shit or whatever.But he played my music on it so much.It catered to the audience.It catered to that order, that underground audience.And so I was just like, shit.This is just me chopping it up with my homie with some of the rap homies, right?
30:05This ain't going to be too hard.And then I just learned.how to cultivate my question asking skills you know what I'm saying my follow-upshow to do research all that you start to develop and cultivate how to do that shit but that comeswith time but the first opportunity was DJ Eclipse allowing me to be on his show on serious X-mrap is out of control that's live right there yeah that's a crazy I just I respect it because younever really know where it's gonna go you was so you was just trying something that's a factit wasn't something you're like all right this gonna be the goal we're gonna make this happen you're
30:36like oh y'all want to shoot the shit yeah we do that yeah we do that yeah we dothat you know what I learned bro when you got blonde is on you missed theopportunities that's on the left and the right you know I'm saying so likehave your focus but don't be so tunnel vision that you don't see it's theopportunity there because you never know what your path is going to be you got tobe open to the shit that's happening in the universe and from there you canmake the best decisions do you do you do you still use your rapper pin when youdo interviews or you only take it out when you when you when you
31:06make music. Nah, you know, it's, this shit is, come on, this is all like, it's allencompassing for me, you know what I'm saying? So like, yeah, so all of the rap shitseems out like I've had is on the show and we, we rhyme, you know what I'm saying? Like,and they be like, oh, the interview nigger is nice, you know what I'm saying? Like,shit like that or, or I've had times where I work with the artist and I had to wantthe show, the interview nigga, the interview nigg is nice, you know what I mean? Um, or I work withthe artists you know whether we did songs together or I did some writing for them or whatever we didshows together so that brings a different level of conversation to the conversation you know a different
31:45level we relate more like oh this who's on the road like he know what this shit is like he know idon't even feel like being here but i showed up or for the mutual respect shit like that so but for meit's all like all encompassing so like the rap shit sleep out the the the media shit sleep out it's allyou know it's all torre shit who's one of your favorite interviews you got a chanceto just sit down with somebody and do one of your favorite where you was like even if it didn't do good you was like in my opinion I like this one I felt like we touched all the bases man I had some you know I'm 10 years then like I said I had some really dope conversations well just one that sticks out that's what I feel like it's I can sit here and say the last what was your top 10 yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah but there's always one you know I'm saying that really does I'm gonna tell you one that means a lot to me for for numerous reasonsbut for the obvious Nipsey Hustle.When I sat with Nipbecause by the time
32:42Nip ended up on my showwas the Victory Lab album andyou know he'd promoting that shit he running aroundbut we had so many encounters before thatseeing him in South by Southwestdoing shows here and there and there and thereand there's always been loveso when we finally got a chance
32:56to sit down to have a full conversationwe had already been in each other spacenumerous times and shitand so you know Nip always going to dropsuper dreamJules in there, right?So we did it at Sirius XM.We got a studio audience in there.
33:11We got the DJ live.It's myself and my man, Gray Rizzi, coming with the questions.And it was just like that shit that in the moment, it felt special.You know what I'm saying?Like it felt special while I was happening.And then people taking, you know, they use that shit on BT.When he passed, they used a clip from it.They use clips from that shit when people graduate.
33:32People always tag me.Yo, they playing your shit in the, in the,in the arena right at our graduation so like it was just the level of conversation that we wasable to have and that it was evergreen content that lives on and on and on obviously with nipnot being here we hold on to those moments even tighter but even if he was still here it wouldhave that same it would have those same legs because it was just a poignant conversation so yousay it was going to be a timeless interview regardless regardless you know and it's you know it's ablessing that we had that time together and it sucks that he's not here but again man we we leave
34:08the physical but whatever you leave whatever your legacy is that you leave here on earth do goodwork because that's what people have once you're not here no more i want to jump over to anothernot no jump over i want to yeah i definitely man for real that's what we had that's the only way we'regoing to get in the action you did i want to know now you going over the series didn't havenothing to do with dj clips did it yeah yeah yeah so that's where it was that i'm sayingI thought maybe you would did something with him prior to going to serious.It was he, that was the platform.He had.
34:39He offered me opportunity to be there.He was like, yo, Toray, serious.Come, come with it.You know what I'm saying?And then, so I got a shot at a couple names.After DJ Eclipse gave me that opportunity, years down the line, I talked to the programdirector, Reggie Hawkins.Reggie Hawkins was the man I had to talk to to get the show.
34:57Reggie was like, let's do it.I got a shout out Ron Mills.Ron Mills is the program director now.He was working there.he was a very big Toray advocate.Give him a show, I think he can do it.I didn't want to ask the same question.I didn't want to make it seem like I did.
35:10I just wanted to know what was DJ in clips.Like beforehand was that before you actually went over to Siriusor was he the phone call that was actually made to you to, hey, bring your ass on up over here to Sirius.We got a job for you.Big facts.Yeah, yeah, yeah.It was DJ close for sure.And then one last name out of the three, I just got to say, and my man Dion Summers, you know what I'm saying?
35:31Like those three people who gave me my opportunity.and radio where were you at in that point in life like when you when you gotthat call from DJ clips like where were you at like were you in a good placebad place bad mental head space I was in that I was I was so apprehensivebecause I was a rapper right I was a rapper it was like oh nine I think when heoffered with me and Marco dropped oh nine so yeah it was like late oh nine when heoffered me to the opportunity and I'm like how people gonna look at me first of allbecause this is a little before every rapper had a podcast and every rapper was doing media and shit like that it was a little more frowned upon then and i'm like how are people going to look at me i'm still trying to establish myself as a rapper but the layout of land was much bigger like i've noticed like it went from you know being able to have acres in this shit to everybody kind of living on top of each other now you know i'm saying the media space has gotten so overwatered it's so watered down oversaturated i was able to i was and i was able to plant my mind
36:33seeds early you know what I'm saying like so that's that's a blessing in it but um yeah so you know backin 09 and shit when he offered me the opportunity to do radio I was like I don't know becauseI don't want my peers to not respect this rap shit and I don't want people to discover melike as a radio host can't go back to right go back because what you don't know at that timenobody knew if you crossed over in this right would my fans still love me in the rap spaceRight, exactly.That's scary, especially for something that you've tried.This is what you've been building your entire life.
37:07That's what I've been doing my whole life.Exactly.So yeah, I ought to be scared.Like, not even scared, but fucking, nigga, scared.I would have been very timid.You know, I learned a word then, trepidation.You know what I'm saying?There was trepidation there, you know what I mean?
37:20But, but like I said, man, you never know where the opportunity,where the blessing will come from.And I couldn't tell my brother, no.You know what I'm saying?Like DJ Eclipse is the guy who put my record in fat beats on Cassime.We're going to put it up there to see if people who,with it he played me on the half-time show he let me come up there and spit ball like he gave me somuch early on in my career that by the time you know them three two three years past and we had
37:43built the bond and he was like yo i want you to come co-host with me i couldn't say no i had to i had totry it you know i'm like i'm excited to ask you because you're actually from that air like manwhat happened to that t rl air like where muv could come on everybody know real shit everybody can comeon look at your shit you know I'm saying talk about your shit and go across thestreet and buy it great time that like hell yeah go to the virginmega store remember when Eminem Buster Rhyme stood there for the closing show theysaid then where we gonna saw our music at now because streaming wasn't pop likeright that wasn't where it was at at that time where they what niggas did was
38:21go on these shows and shop their shit you had to go to store and buy it happenedto that man where they look across the street everybody's over there you seelong ass lines everybody's been in line to buy your shitThis is how, this is why I gave so much.Yeah, that was Virgin Megastore.This is why I give so much reverence to those artistsbecause when you sold a million records,five million records, two, even gold,
38:44motherfuckers went out and spent that bread.This wasn't no super convenient.Sit home, press play on your phone, press play and computer.You had to get up, get dressed, go somewhere,go into the store, find the product,go to the register, purchase it, like.Open it up because this is it.Yeah, you had to open it up, you read the lining notes.
39:04But the point is people were invested enough to do all of that shit.It was a great time.I'm not the one to shy away from technology.All of the shit going to grow on and move on.And we all have to adapt.You know what I'm saying?That just is what it is.But I do respect the artists in that era who was able to maintain in that era still exist today.
39:29Or just they just presented Lauren.We keep going back to this Lauren Hill shit.That's cool.The motherfucking 10 million sold plaque, bro.This is when you had to go,10 million people had to go get it.You know what I mean?Like, that's some different shit.
39:41I think what was dope about places like TRL and things like that back thenbecause the artist got to actually interact with the fan.Yeah, and you got a chance to learn, right?To learn about them.This is when there was a level of mystique with certain artists.The only time you really could tap in with them is when they did these moments.They did the TRLs or the 106 in parks or they sat down with, you know, they sat down withSway or they sat down with Big Boy.
40:08We get a glimpse into their life.We want to know so much.AJ and Free, right?Yeah, yeah, 106.Yeah, yeah, 106.A.J. and free shit.Yeah.You know, I got shout out on my East Coast and my West Coast shit.
40:17Yeah.You know what I'm saying?But, like, you know, so much shit that, you know, so much shit that the Baker Boys will playor if somebody came into the show, you learned about more about your favorite artists and youfelt more connected in those times.Like, now it's so much.It's almost overkill.That's why I was dope to hear your perspective
40:34because you actually come from that erato where you saw it actually workingand then you actually got to come overand cross over to the streamingand other things like that.But I saw it in Eminem's face.I saw it in Buster Ron's face.Them niggas was standing there that day
40:49when they was closing out in T.R.Like, where are we going to shop our shit at now?All these type of platforms are closing.The internet wasn't as big on streaming thenwhen that shit was going on.The internet's what shut a lot.of that shit there was no more need for it right and and you got to go back to beforewe're streaming and you know it was illegal downloads my was on Lime Wyatt it was on
41:12Napster so you standing there looking that corrupts your computer all the shitto give you a virus you know what I mean and maybe X and maybe X videos tooX videos too had a little bit nasty shit in there out just a little sprigle the internetdefinitely did change the game how did you was shotlike I said bro you got a you can't shy away from the technique you can't like try tocan't hold up a door against the dam this shit is flowing bro right it's going it'sgoing happen whether you like it and not so you got to figure out how to adapt to it yougot to figure out how to utilize it and take all this technology and make it work for you
41:51know and the industry was able to figure out kind of how to be reborn you know whatI'm saying like once to download and then the naps the shit happened and you got togive credit to the MP3, the creator of the MP3, but also the creator of, you know, the iPodknows first. They like, fuck it. Let's make the device where people going to steal the music atthis point. Let's make the device because we can make money off of that. And then we can licensethese records from the labels or we can get these records from the labels and they can make alittle bit of money. So making a little bit of money is better than it's just limelioring yourshit and you're making no money. And although the rates is shitty, at least it was able to revive the
42:29to where people can start to, you know, flourish and thrive again.You used to have some cold-ass CD booklets, huh?All the CDs, huh, nigga?He's had like three books in your car.You just remind me of a nigga like that.Like, hey, I bet you Toray got that shit.Let's do with his house.I had all that shit, bro.
42:45I bet you, we go through his books.He got the cover in there in front of the CD.And don't put my shit, don't fold my shit up.Don't rabbi ears my shit, bro.I don't play that.Straighten my shit out for I fuck you up.Hey, back then, think about it though, to steal a nigga CD book, right?You talk about a good two grand worth music in some of them.
43:07Certain shit, especially like, you know, double disc or something.Or the mixtapes, right?Like certain mixtapes that was on CD, like when they started to move into the CD space,you got the DJ Clues and the Ron G's and the rest of the DJ K Slays.Some of that shit you wasn't fining again.So if somebody got you, they got you good.You know what I mean?If somebody got shop, I'm gonna tell you this, I still got all my CDs, bro.
43:32I still got all my, word of everything I love and all my tapes.I got all, I got a big ass bin of tapes and I still got all my CDs.It's crazy that it's nostalgic now, right?Yeah.It's crazy that that's, you know what's saying, got aesthetics to where like, people be likeCDs.Yeah.Who kids don't know what CDs are, man?
43:50The fuck is that.My kids don't know what CDs are.Yeah.Yeah.Think about how expensive though, like them books used to be back in the day.If you had like all the top shit, you know what I'm saying?You can have a, like I said, $2,500 CD bookly.You know what I'm saying?
44:04When you open it up, nigger got everything.You didn't yanked a couple niggins shit out their books.I have, especially.You know, I went to a-Oh, I go to a shoddy house?If I go to a shorty house?Yeah, because she got all of my R&B.She got all the R&B shit.
44:19I used to peel my cousin for all that shit.Tommy Braxton.I peeled her for that Nostradamus.Okay.Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.that Nostradamus or drop that I am I think man I'm peeling all that shitNah that was that was that was that was one of my go-to signature move sorry ladiesI met a chick I went to take it anything is out your book I'm going to look first I want to see
44:41Where your mind is at so I want to see what kind of actual books you got on your shelf and then I'm going to your musiccollection I want to know where your mind is at I want to know where your your musicality is atAnd if I saw some shit I like you know I mean maybe you left with memaybe maybe you probably still got some of that shit the books thatAll that shit I told you I still got.One of them shit say shit loves to shit.Like, yeah, like one of the shit.Definitely, bro.
45:04Back then, you could steal anything I got my car.You got them for that music day.Be hot.Oh, for sure.That's a big fact.That's a big fact.If I loan some, y'all, I still to this day, y'all, I loan my cousin, my common tape.You know what I mean?
45:19And he's somehow accidentally taped over my tape, bro.My common album, bro.To this day, in 2023, that should still hurt my heart.Like, yo, bro, how did you allow this to happen?Shout to my cousin's ski.I love you.No, I remember on the boomboxes, he pressed the record button and the play button.Man, record over some shit.
45:37Yeah, nigga, I accidentally record over my comment shit.He replaced it, but still, you know what I mean?It's the principalities of this shit.It's the principalities of this shit.I remember, man, I was probably like five years old.One of my favorite songs was, like R&B joints was from H down,rocking the boots.Oh, knocking the boots.
45:53Yeah, I was my man, to play that joint, man, back to back.That was the shit.Yeah, yeah, that was my shit.That was this.You was too young to know about that.I was just, I knew the words, though.I don't know what it meant.Right, but you just know it made it felt right.
46:04I just knew it fell right.The melody was all the point.We didn't have child songs back then.Child's like, you'm saying?Like this was a little different.Like where you could listen to it on TV.Right, right, right.Kids bob shit.
46:16We ain't had that.Now we had to listen to knocking the boots.You had to listen to knocking the boots.You know what I'm saying?And make up whatever in your mind you thought that.Whatever that shit meant.whatever that meant to you at five i don't even know not nothing sexual yeah you probably wasreally like wow why would they do this with their shoes yeah what is this me
46:38it's just this is it jamming though we got to jamming shop hey i got to ask man what's uhwhat's your favorite thing about being in serious um just me and people me and a talentyou know what i'm saying like i was in a building last week just on the humble and tim's was in theand Mary J. Blodd was in the building.And, you know, you just never know who's going to be there.Technically, I know because I see the list.But you never know on any given day who's going to be there.Who you're going to interact with?
47:08I've built a lot of relationships just having interviews with people.You know what I interview.And we just have, you know, we click and shit, right?Yo, take my number after the show.We take number next time they're in town.Yo, Torrey, I'm in town.I'm going to come through the radio.But also, we're doing this, right?
47:24Like, for example, shout to the homie Sunny Digital.He came.He did the show last week.Dope dude.Came he did my show last week.And he was like, yo, I'm going to studio tonight.You won't pull up.I was like, you bet.
47:36I go to studio.We kick it some more.He played me the album early.We're talking about wild shit.Now we texting back and forth.Now we just want some cool shit.You know what I'm saying?So relationships get built.
47:46So I think to some of the doper shit about serious,outside of people being able to discover me is just like,you know, being having an opportunity.to meet people that you might not have crossed paths withor to build relationships with peoplethat you get a chance to just, you know,have a business relationship with and let it grow.Speaking of a business,
48:03what's your relationship like with serious overall with them.You obviously got a good relationship with,you know, some of the artists and people that come through the building.I will tell you what my relationship is after this next contract negotiation.I should have known.Which is upon us right now.Yeah.That's a good question.
48:20That's a great question.Just maybe a little too premature for me from what I got going.gonna take this clip right here we're gonna make this part go viral this is the part right here i just wantto know you know i mean it seems like it's had to been some i mean somewhat great because you havestuck around for sure haven't heard any type of problems coming up you know torre and serious breaking upat any type of you know something or nothing like that so i just wanted to know where the relationshipstands because i know being around that long around each other that's a relationship for sure what happensin relationships they get rocking sometimes yeah for sure for sure nah like i said dang
48:54kick me out and I and I storm out.So obviously it's mutually beneficial as working.I enjoy, I don't do nothing I don't like, first of all.I enjoy the people that I'm around in the building.Yo, whatever I do, whatever you see me doing,and people be like, damn, you do so much.It's because I love it all, bro.I don't do, I don't get up and drag my feet
49:13to do nothing, you know what I mean?I got here 20 minutes early, right?Because I wanted to have this conversation.I don't do nothing.It's a blessing to be in a position where,Granted, some days you might be a little under the weather, a little tired.That's different shit.But there's nothing I get up and do on a regular basis that I don't absolutely love.
49:32And so my time as serious and what I'm able to do there,how I'm able to utilize my platform is great for me.And it's obviously beneficial for Sirius X-M to have the currency that I bring.You know what I'm saying from the coaches.So, yeah, man, now we got to do is just figure out the zeros.Yeah.I thought it was just a great question.I'm like, you know, because I work a great question.
49:53I'm working media, you know, and it's all, and I believe, you know,especially partnering with somebody or being, you know, under an umbrella,you know, it's very important to, you know, keep the relationship strong.You know what I'm saying?In the business aspect of things and make sure nothing ever gets rocky in that.And like those people that I shouted out earlier, man, shout out to Dion and Ron Millsand the whole team over there, you know, great, great guys, great guys.For sure, for sure.
50:18You're in traditional media per se.What do you think of like all this, like the new media that's,going on today because you're one of the first Torre like kind of crossed over like andand actually came over from being from from the artist side yeah like so that's a hell of aninsight to me you know what do you think of this new media today because that's what everybodythat's what i feel like they're starting to call it floco and all them like you know there's newtalent that's coming up and they got a whole different outlook to what music is who's hot who's notwho's shot you know like they
50:53They got a whole different outlook like these these kids you knowThey'll say two-pacThey don't two pockets no you know what I'm saying? I know that's kind of bother a person like youRight right right right really come from that air and really stand on that yeah what do you think man about this today?New mediaWhat's new media mean to Toray? So it's a two-part answerOkay, I love thatAnybody that want to get out there and express their self have an opportunity to do that
51:20You know what I'm saying especially if you can monetize it andand make some money and get out of some of these trapsthat they put us in, you know what I mean?Like, cause all of this shitis designed to keep a certain class of people.It's water.Thank you.Yeah, there's the shit is designed
51:35to keep a certain class of peoplein a certain tax bracket forever.So if you can figure your way out of that shit,I gotta commend it, I gotta salute it.With that said, there's not a lot of,for some, it's not a lot of respectfor the traditional journalistic integritydon't do research oh shit such a shot you know what I'm saying you don't even
51:56know if it's real or not or you see a motherfucker laying there and bleeding you see amotherfucker laying there bleeding and the first thing you do is take a video like thatshit for me is a little crazy that's a little nuts but that's that's that's that'sthat's the that's the new shit that's what the kids is on you know what I'm sayingright um but it's some good shit out there's a lot of dope shit like shout to gna viewsum yeah shout to gna it's a lot of um shout to nila simoneand Speedy and everything they got going over thereon the Amazon side.
52:27So it's a lot of dope, you know, shout to Yadiand what he's doing.You know what I'm saying?I feel like he got the cheat code, though, bro.He's a big artist.Come on, right?He got the cheat code.And shout out to the little Yadi,
52:40but that nigga got the cheat code.And like he said, he was like, man,I was one of the first people, man,you know what I'm saying?Other than Post Malone that ever did Twitch.He already had the cheat code a long time ago.But he still had to build it, though.He still had to build it.
52:52you know what I'm sayingyou like you drink so fucking waterdrink some water breaktake a water break because we're drunkif we think thatfuckinglittle Yadi like come on manhe's got the cheat code already
53:06I'm gonna say I neverI see the clipsI never sat there and listened to that's not mything you know what I'm saying I don't thinkI'm the audience that he's speaking toor speaking forwhat I'm saying isDrake starting a podcast tomorrow
53:17do we think it's not gonna go upright right right of courseand all they got the niggassit there for an hour and a half and scratch his balls.Guess what?It's going to see two, three million views.Three million views.At least.
53:29So I feel like there's some guys that really have the cheat code and didn't have to reallywork up at it like how you did.Because you came in at a time.That's very sad.It was kind of frightening to, you know, leave that side of it behind.Like leave my hip-hop career behind and come over to this to media.Like it wasn't really heard of like that.It was very new.
53:50Yeah.It's definitely, he, so.what I will agree with you on is that it's a much easier, a much easier transition for him.Obviously, he already got millions of people that follow him.So that's already built in ears and eyeballs.So I'll give you that.But the point was that he's a young artist with a voice, with a platform, and he's figuring out another way to express himself.Is it for me?
54:14Maybe not all of this shit is for me.Or is he just following the wave?Everybody's jumping in.You think you follow on the wave?Everybody's jumping in.We just talked about this.Everybody wants to be on the ship now.I remember, man, listen, when I started doing Sharp Tank, right, there was only a few video,
54:31like only my shit would pop up.So people would rush to it to see it.Now it's so oversaturated because people are making content about me, tagging me in it,hopping in my algorithm.You got to go through 70.Yo, now, now, I'm not even going to call it bullshit, but you got to go through 70 otherring of a fucking rosebefore you actually get to the content that I draw.
54:53That you drop.You know what I'm saying?So it gets,it's oversaturated.They're going to drop a reaction videoto this right here.Most definitely in talking about this.Reddit will probably be one of the first people
55:01to pick the shit up.Then Lil Yadi going to talk about it because he's going to see it.Well,Lil Yadi, like I said,I feel like you've got the cheat code.This ain't Mortal Kombat, my nigga.We know you had the fatalities already.We don't finish him.
55:13Come on.That's not a fair fight.That's not a fair fight.I understand.I understand.I understand.understand your point of view.Musically, he has a fucking fan base out of this world.
55:25They fuck with him.You know what I'm saying?But people could say I was cheating because I came from the music space, right?They're like, oh, people already fuck with you.But it was new to hop over.Nobody knew what was going to happen.You had to gamble and take that chance at that point.Now we kind of know what can happen.
55:41You know what I'm saying?Because it's already been battle tested.Some of these motherfuckers flop because they're not consistent.And this will be the test of time really even not.that we're gonna fucking make this a Yadi show.But we'll see if Yadi continues to put out contentand be consistent.Because sometimes artists,
55:57they jump into the shit because like you said,it's easy and it's right there.It's a lay up.And then three months later,it's over.You never hear from them again.What do you think about the situationup in the breakfast club?
56:07You think it's over for?Yeah, that's done.I think it's over with up there?That's done.I had to ask you, Torre.That's done.They had a super run.They had a super run.
56:15It was done.It was done ever since Angela left the showbecause that is not the breakfast club anymore.You know what I'm saying?Like people always going to have their favorites on the show,especially when you got multiple casts.So some people gravitated towards Angela.Some people gravitated towards envy.
56:31Some people, Charlemagne.Yeah.You know, for all of the shit that Angela would getfrom people that didn't fuck with her,when she left the show, you felt a void.You felt like there was something missing.Can those two guys carry the show and do their own thing?Absolutely.
56:46But you felt her voice, her present.Yeah, it was not there.And that's why you got other people doing feelings and shit like that.But now with the whole envy shit, we don't really know how that's going to shake out.I think that's over.Shout out to Angela E. too.I met her one time.I was going to go do a Don't Call Me White Girls podcast.
57:04She worked a breakbeat.Shout out to break beat.Yeah, yeah, for sure.Went to go do her shit.Angela Yee was just finishing up.I got a chance to meet her.So it was cool, man.She got a nice presence, nice lady.
57:13And that's the homie.She's from Brooklyn.That's, yeah, that's gang.I knew her from Sirius.her serious days you know what saying so yeah that's the home so you say it's definitely over and do youdo you feel like the shit that's going on with dj envy right now whether he's guilty or not thatshit doesn't matter whether he knew if you know caesar pin you know he knew this was actually going onand actually had any kind of involvement in it do you feel like him just even being a part of that
57:39could have possibly ruined what's going on at breakfast club because i seen charlemagne tell him shutthe fuck up pretty much right because he's you when you got an open case you know you know yousupposed to talk you know what you know saying like so that's just rule number onewanted to anyway says no no no I feel like I want to address thisanything you say can be used in a court of law whether you think you're sayinghe should know his pops is a cop you know what I'm saying like you should know thatshit but it's tainted it's tainted there's there's some stink on it now and so you knowI don't know how the parent company is going to react to that shit nobody want their
58:15offices they buildings ran up in you know what I'm saying like that's that's that'sjust making it high this is corporate America you got motherfucking shareholders and shit that yougot a you got to count to and they don't want to be in no nigger shit they came in there and grabbedthem drives yeah yeah yeah yeah grabbed them hard drives and things but I always look at it like this rightyou got to remember this to it and especially you know you ain't doing none police feds especiallywhen they come in they come and start taking shit they're gonna make sure they walk it by you in bagsmake it look like they got all this some of it's a scare tactic of course so just chill it's a showI don't know if that made him nervous and made him feel like, oh, I got to go say something.
58:51But I'm sure your lawyer even told you it's not your best interest to talk about it.What do you see for the future for them?Where do you think they're going to head to, man, after this?Like what's the way?Shaliman is already, he's already been doing his solo endeavor.So he's going to continue to do that.You know, he's going to end up with a night show or another day show or something like that.Envy been, envy's going to be fine.
59:12You know, as long as he's not found guilty and don't got to do no time.You know what I'm saying?like obviously if you got to do time then that's a different conversation but he'll be fine becausehe a hustler you know what I'm saying he came from the street he came from mixed tapes to mix CDsto DJ and club envy the motherfucker to do three four clubs in a night you know what I'm saying and he wasable to turn that into a radio career so I think they'll both land on their feet so do you feel likeif envy goes to jail it's over with for him right now like right now like right now this ain't thetime to leave the space because like we were talking about the space is oversaturated right now new
59:45content new characters are coming daily for sure you know what I'm saying so do you feel like if hehad to go serve you in a few years he get out his is he'm saying his candle them blew out by theni don't even want to talk about post jail because i don't wish jail on nobody I don't wish jail on nobodyeither but I'm just saying if he if he was we're just hypothetically looking at it I don't want him togo to jail I don't wish jail on nobody but if he was to go to jail do you feel like him even going for ayear, two years, his career would be over?Like, you can't leave him behind right now.Right now's not the time.
01:00:19If he had to do anything for two years and move away from this space, I think that he'sbuilt up enough of a following and enough of an audience that people will be interested whenhe came back.What he was able to do with that is up to him.But I think there would be an interest.Like when Bobby and them went and sat for that time, Bobby and Rowdy in them, right?People was like, damn, we ain't get a lot of music from them, but they stood tall andpeople respected that and when they came out people went back it's a lot of art
01:00:46imagine the artists go away for five six years and then cut nobody checking for you butbecause of what their story was and because of how totally stood even though they weregone from the music space from all that time people was still engaged because theywanted to see what they was going to come with and they was able to figure that shit outwell they put it out to where like bobby was supposed to never get out rightYou know what I think that's what kind of gave him his uproar when he actually got released.Because they said, what's about to happen?They didn't let, quote, uncle, they didn't let an animal out the cage, I'm saying?
01:01:20They didn't let a real demon out the motherfucking lair.You know what I'm saying?I love that young guy, man.I love him.I love his presence.I love how he just, he really is a good guy, bro.I think just people like to, I always say don't poke sleeping bears.Like I'm saying, because niggas will wake up and get to really trick.
01:01:37I'm going to tell you this, bro.I said this year early in the conversation.Yeah.We being fucking set up and targeted.You growing up, he's a product of his environment.That's it.He's a product of his environment.He grew up in a different place with different opportunities and different resources.
01:01:52He's a different person.He's a product of all of that shit.So when you're looking at America's nightmare,you got to blame America for making that shit.Right.You had just recently dropped some new music with a longtime friendand producer Marco Apollo, man.Yeah.
01:02:07Talk about it.Midnight Run.It's been 14 years since me and Marco dropped the project together.That's a live, bro.Yeah, yeah, yeah.The fact that, first of all, our chemistry is still great because that's my brother.But the fact that so many people care and an ass, you know, that's one of the beautiful things about social media is that your fans can talk directly to you.Every day, if it's not seven days out the week, it's two days out the week.
01:02:32Or it's three days out.Yo, what's up with this?Or they play a song.Damn, this is my shit.I hope y'all drop some new music.14 years later they still have demand and the cell records, physical records.You know, we did classic shit.We did vinyl.
01:02:45We did CDs and cassettes in addition to the digital.And every week I use my 10, you know, your 10 Instagram carousel to highlight 10 motherfuckerswho bought that physical product because that's, again, they spent their bread to own something tangible.It ain't just press the shit on your phone and listen.It's like, yo, I gotta put my information in.I gotta wait for this shit to show up.Now I gotta take a picture and post it.that's care that's love that's a real audience so I want to make sure I get them that love
01:03:12right back so I believe I believe sway interviewed you guys about it earlier in the yearshout the back bro got it actually got featured on hip-hop dx right crazy yeah yeah shoutto big bro sway that's my brother man love him shout to that whole sway in the morningthat's crazy right dear you and uh you and uh you and marco gonna do any more shit in the futurey'all plan it to do anything else i text that motherfucker every day send the beats you knowSend the beat.So we, you know, if it makes sense,we'll tour,
01:03:37we definitely gonna make some more music, though.I said no more music droughts for me.2023, you got a project.2024, you get in the project,maybe two, 2025.No more music droughts because it don't make no sense.Now I'm solidified on my radio shit.Well, ain't nobody acting now because of the strike.
01:03:54But, you know, the acting shit,I'm moving in that.I got an agent shout to, you know,Smith Young Talent.So for me,only thing left to do is,go to the studio and cook up, you know what I'm saying?Because the other shit is already, you know what I mean?
01:04:07That shit is already rolling.So now it's like get back and get at people what they want.Speaking of tracks and things like that, y'all gave a bonus track as well, I believe, called Go Brooklyn.Yeah.On that Midnight Run.Right.The Go Brooklyn shit, so I just posted about it.That was a song we did a couple years ago for the Brooklyn Nets.
01:04:25Yeah.Yeah, we got approach to do, Marco got a approach to do some music for the Nets.And then they was looking for a theme.And so he reached out on like your tour.Can you do the theme song?And honestly, the funny shit is I'm a Knicks fan.So I'm really sitting there like contemplating like,Like I should just throw dirt on this shit.
01:04:42So I do this shit.And I should do it the way to where they still put it out and don't even know I'mIn true Brooklyn fashion though, I was like, now we're going to do it.We're going to take that bread.So you're in New York Knickerbocker.I'm a knicker knicker.You know what I mean?I'm a knicker knicker.
01:04:56Yeah.But I took some of the bread and I went and spent it at the garden.spent it at the garden I went to see the Knicks you know what I'm saying but you got I'm superBrooklyn everything about me is a hundred thousand percent Brooklyn except my basketball teambecause when I was a kid it was no Brooklyn Nets right so I'm not going to grow up and be 20so I'm in switch sides because who the fuck does that right you know what I'm saying right that's thereason I'm not in that if I was if there was a Brooklyn Nets team when I was coming up I would be aBrooklyn Nets fan but the only team in New York was the Knicks so that's my squad so the song even though
01:05:30even though you and fucking Stephen A man y'all stand byhold on hold on let me let me say this let me say this is an egregiousy'all stand by them motherfuckers then hey through and through homie and y'all be having moreproblems than a little bit a whole lot of problems you're saying hey i ain't go a lot thoughi like uh i like julius randall and them i like them dudes up there man you know what i'msaying they know out of ball i just don't know what's i don't know what y'all missing but y'all missingsomething. Missing the whole line, y'all.Y'all missing it. Who your squad?
01:06:01You're a clipper or a Laker?Honestly, man, to be real with you, I was alwaysa Mavs fan. A word. Okay.I'm talking about like Steve Nash, Dirk and Whiskeydays when they was playing. Crazy. You know what I'msaying? So I always fucked with them.Watch us win our first championshipball at. Dirk was the only one to pull it through.
01:06:18Chasing kid. I feel like this.Like with Dirk, Dirk was theone that opened up the game to showthat big men can shoot too. That's a fact.Big men can move like the smaller dudes.You know what I'm saying?Kevin Durant too.Kevin and Kevin Garnett.
01:06:32Yeah.These guys are big shooting that was unheard of.You know what I'm saying?Even back in the day,nobody really shocked three-pointers.Everybody either took it to the rack or it was no long two.Yeah, you're playing the paint.You're doing a hook shot.
01:06:44You know what I'm saying?Like three-points came right.Yeah, you're close to the rim.The big men always stayed close to the rim in the painted area.So yeah, shout to Dallas, man.Thank you.Appreciate it.The song, Go Brooklyn.
01:06:56So when we, me and Marco was doing the album, he was like, yo, we never really officially put that song out.I'm like, yeah, but we did that shit for the Nets.Like, why will we put it out?He's like, yo, it's still a dope joint.It's really a Brooklyn joint.But in my mind, I'm like, yeah, but I got mad basketball references.And it was certain words they wanted me to say and shit and all of that.So in my mind, I was like, I don't think it's a good song song.
01:07:18I think it's a good basketball song.But Marco was like, yo, let's put it out.So we compromise.It's like, fuck it.Let's put it on the physical.and anybody who bought a physicalwill get that.So that's how that came to be.
01:07:28That's dope.Are you the president of the,I think what's the New York chapterof the recording academy?Yeah, yeah.The organization that puts on the Grammys,I'm the president of New York.That's cool.
01:07:38Dope privilege to do that.How did that come about?You know, a lot of people don't know thatif you are artists,if you have X amount of credits,you got to have 12 credits,or artists or anything in the music industry,you can join the academy.
01:07:52You can join.It ain't no,fucking Wizard of Oz behind the curtainyo I got 12if you put an album out with 12 songs on itthat's 12 creditsand that's enoughyou pay your $150
01:08:04that motherfucker spendat Starbucksand you become a member of the academyit's just that simple so I became a membersome years ago I learned aboutall the other shit that the recording academydid outside the Grammysand that's what really made me stay
01:08:19I found out how much money they give awayto people that's in need I found outmuch advocacy they do at at you know in Washington and for songwriters and forpeople you know to get they you know streaming rates and all types of shit rightand I was like yo this shit is dope it's dope and just like the Grammys is dope butthe shit that they do 365 days is dope too and that's what made me stickaround this shit and I just kind of built my name up and start working and doingdifferent initiatives and you know I got slated for the ballot and I got voted in
01:08:50this is a super blessing you being a mentorAnd a mogul, is there anybody that, you know,has been a mentor to you or any mentors that you look up to?When I was younger, I didn't have any mentors.But in my older years, I shouted out Sway.Sway is like a big homie and mentor to me.I talked to Sway about outside of media shit, real life shit.We text.
01:09:12My brother Clark Kent taught me a lot about the music business.You know what I'm saying?Like him being an OG and him having experience and shit.So those are two people that I look to as mentors.And my man killed Ripkin.You know what I'm saying?Me and Kill used to be in the group together.He's a little older than me, but not by much.
01:09:28But he's somebody who I look at and I look too for guidance.You know what I'm saying?He know me.He knows my heart.You know what I'm saying?I know him.I know his heart.He's somebody that always, he keeps it a buck with me.
01:09:40You know what I'm saying?Like no matter what.So those are some of the people that I consider mentors to me.You also, I want to get over there before we get out of here.You also did a podcast.I want to say is what's that hard to earn?Yeah, the Hard Dogged.Bonson.
01:09:54With my God Bonsuit.Yeah, that shit is grown.We got a big announcement, actually.I don't know when this is going to drop, but we got an announcement to close out 2023.Well, for the people that don't know about that, because I believe y'all like revisit classics and things like that.So it's an album review show.We do new albums as well.So somebody drops some new shit.
01:10:12Like, we did Cizzers album this year.We did the Killer Mike album this year.So we'll review the albums.Bonsu comes from the magazine space.he's a writer, right? So he was editor-in-chief at The Source and wrote that doubleExcel. So he has that music, journalist, pedigree. I obviously am a rapper and thesongwriter. I got gold records. I got platinum records on other artists, Billboard, number onehits. So we both come from a different space, but with enough pedigree to say the shit
01:10:42that we say. It ain't just, we talking out the fucking side of our ass. We are actual professionalsin this shit. So we review new albums and we rate them. We rate the songs from one to10 classic albums we do on anniversary so we'll do a 10 year anniversary of 15 to 20 we're about to do the wutang album 36 chambersthat's gonna be crazy for the 30 year anniversary we're doing that live in new york city to close out thismonth too i'm gonna have to fly out for that one listen anytime you in the town yeah anytime you're in thetown you know we're gonna i'm gonna take care of you what do you uh who's some of you like the newartist my last question for you like what's some of the new artists man today and uh like you knowand that you say, like, they got some motion.
01:11:21You know what I'm saying?Like, whether it's like, you know,the NY drill, Chicago drill,Detroit scene, like,who you feel like right now,got it.It's really shining.It's a lot of shit.
01:11:30I like Simba a lot.I think Simba's dope.Yeah.I like Lady London.I think she's fire.I like,I like, it's this kid named Sandy Benjamin.He's still really, really, like,
01:11:43emerging, but he's just,he's super talented to me.I like Buddy.some people say he knew some peopleyou know I think he's still like coming upand shit I like the kidJ-I-D from the Dreamville sideI like Boss from Dreamville
01:11:57I like Cos from DreamvilleRhapsody she's not really newnew like that but you know she's stillshe's still doing her thingNick Grant I think Nick Grant is dopea lot of dope talent out there yoyeah a lot of dope talent out thereyeah definitely got a future in this game
01:12:12oh for sure they're doing they doingthe things they making thatyou know I mean they're leaving their markthey build in a they pathto do this shit and have a career.And careers are so different now.You can have a career in hip-hop.You don't never have to be a superstar.
01:12:26You don't never have to have a radio smash.You can have a career, 10, 20 years.You know what I'm saying?Do you feel like these days it's better to put out a hit songor EP versus a full album?I think it depends on the artists.And when I say that, I think that depends on who your bass is.Do you have a bass that's an album fan base,
01:12:48or do you have a base that just consume shit that as it comes?Because if they want more, then drop more.You know what I'm saying?And if you're looking for superstardom, then try to make a hit.But if you got a bass that listen to an album, sit 30, 40 minutes, and really go,then make albums and feed that bass.But you got to, you have the opportunity now with research and algorithm and all that bullshit.But you can also tap into exactly who your bass is and just cater to them.
01:13:18Well, there was guys like, there was guys like Fettywop that when, you know, he dropped that trap queen, they wanted more, but he still just kept pushing that song.Well, he pushed that for a minute until it really blew.Yeah.But then he came with like five more.Oh, he came with RGF Island.You know, he started coming with the My Way shit.You know, he started really knocking him out, but they were hits.Yeah.
01:13:39He didn't just bring, hey, he didn't bring no fucking album.He just, they wanted it so bad that anything he dropped after that.This is going crazy.because they was ready for him.And then eventually he did put it all together on the album.But yeah, he came with after Trap Queen was like you said,RGF Island and Maway and all that shit.Monique, all that shit.
01:14:00Like he just,he had one of the most interesting careers I've seen in a while.Right.He came out the gate.Like, it took a long time to get trapped.Was he out of New York or New Jersey?Jersey.It took a long time to get Trap Queen going,
01:14:13but they believed in it and they stuck with it.And once that shit went,he came back to back to back I think it was five or sixchart topping joints like crazyand then he could never find that thunder again now you fucking doing timefucking crazy come onhe said one of the greatest things that never happened uhlike one of the greatest artists that never like ever got to really happen
01:14:36because he was on his way yeah yeah he was fucking on his waywhy go even put just I mean I don't know what the case wasyeah to me hey man free freePrefetti, you know what I'm saying?Unless he, unless he did harm babies or some shit.You know what I don't fuck with.Bush Issey said he didn't wrote a song every day since he been in jail.Oh, you know.
01:14:56When he come out, he said he's got it.He says he's got probably equivalent to about five, six albums ready that he's written.That's what pop.That's how Pac was.You know what I'm saying?That's how Pac was.He said, it's the clearest I ever been.He said no smoking, no nothing.
01:15:09He said, it's the clearest my mind is ever being.Just eating that motherfucking jail, apple sauce.You know what I mean?Shout out boo shiasty, man.Free shiasty, man, for real.Free thug too, man.Free thug, free Jeffrey, man.Free slime, man.
01:15:24What fuck going on out here, man?He's getting a little chunky.You seen him?Yeah, he's eating more than the apples sauce.He's eating more than the apples sauce.He's fucking, he's fucking.He got a little chunky on us, but I'm glad to see, like, that he's healthy.Like, you know, he's got his health.
01:15:39You know, that's his healthy weight on him, you know?And sometimes when you're not smoking and drinking and shit, because that shit keep youmoving so much that you just put on weight if you slow your metabolism down so he's notrunning around doing all the she was doing so he might just be putting away from that or he mightbe fucking with the bologna sandwiches he might be really fucking i'm sure they looking out for him i'msure he getting some shit in there he yeah at least get chick filet he ain't chick flayette something likeon the way to court that morning or something they might bring it to him a little pretty little prettyco-o and shit yeah yeah do do your shit amen come on to her that's some houston's and so
01:16:12hey to her that's still a celebrity like oh long man he ain't do nothingbigger than a cell he's thug, bro.Thug is like a modern day iconic.Like, you know what I mean?Yeah, he's a big deal.Pause.I'll fuck with Thug, man.I really do.
01:16:30They was talking about it this morning on the news.They said somebody's, they was like they were comparing them.I forgot what was.It was Thug and somebody and they was like, man, bigger than Thug.Like, Thug is big.Not really is.Pose again.Pause.
01:16:42For real.Thug.Nah, for sure.He's one of those like,You think about Thug and Future, they birth, like, all enemiesos, they birth all of this young, this new shit that's off their tree.It's off their family tree, yo.Atlanta definitely goes crazy with the music scene.They also, that's also what, Homer 21 Savage.
01:17:03Right.That's the home of quite a few, Gucci, man.Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.For sure.You know what I mean?For sure, for sure.Yeah, ATL is the new, it's like the new metropolis.You know what I mean?
01:17:13Yeah.I can't, I'm a New Yorker.And I'd be fucking saying here lying.I didn't come here to sit here and lie to you.If I said that Atlanta didn't dominate this space crazy.It came to my mind.So they were saying this morning on the news that Lil Uzi's a bigger artist than Young Thug.Let me think about that.
01:17:32Let me think about that.Little Uzi.Yeah, little Uzi's a bigger, yeah, as a bigger artist than Thug.I think he's, yeah, I think he's had bigger records.Yeah.I think he's had bigger record.So it really is nuanced shit.Doug is the most he's influential he got he got but shit so do Uzi honestly
01:17:50Uzi got a fucking tribe of yeah his fan base is crazy yeah yeah yeah he got because you knowwhy his fan base is fucking diverse as hell for sure you know what I'm saying I'm notsaying thugs thug isn't you're saying but he sold all of us up he got all he got all theniggas for show probably some other genres of people you know but I I feel like it's probablylimited to what Uzi has done and going around.Like people fucking with him all over the world.No, Uzi is, he's, yeah, he's a rock star.You know what I mean?
01:18:20He's a rock star.His shit is far beyond the walls of just hip hop.You know what I mean?I fuck with Uzi too.I fuck with Uzi too.I like Uzi.Hey man, listen, I actually had, uh, I talked shit about the pink tape.I think the pink tape he had just dropped.
01:18:35I was like, man, I just felt like he got to came harder,but then I went back and paused.You know, I went back.I went back, you know, and I listened to it again.I was like, okay, this shit right here really go on.There's some shit on there.It's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not great.But it's some shit on there.
01:18:52It's some shit on there for sure.We need that love is rage, Uzi, though.You know what I mean?You need that love is rage, Uzi.But I fuck with Uzi.Uzi is dope.Maybe he's going to do some shit with,what if you're going to throw some play some Cardi on there with him.
01:19:03Because he always talking about that nigga.Cardi had never one, too, yo.He got a nice bass.No, you know what Cardi does?That pause.That was a crazy.You know what Cardi does?He comes out rare moments.
01:19:15You don't know when you're going to see him.That's a fact.He's kept this mysteriousness.He got that mystique for sure.To himself that sells to the world.Like people can't wait.Oh shit, play where Cardi coming.Ain't no telling him when we're going to see him again.
01:19:28And when he do them festivals, them motherfucking mosh piss be going crazy.He came out with Travis.I think they just did SoFi together.Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.Come out of So far.That's crazy.I think he came and, no, I'm saying.That was the same night.
01:19:40as the Lauren show.So it's mad, you know that,because they both, the venues right next to each other.So it's mad people going to so far.I'm like, what's that for so far?Like Travis, I'm like, damn, I would have went to that.And it's mad people going to the Fuji shit.So yeah, LA is crazy, man.
01:19:55What I was saying was Travis and just did a showand he brought out Playboy Cardi on stage.You know what I'm saying?So, and him coming out for just even that rare moment,crowd going crazy.Because you never know when you're going to see him.He brings a different energy to where peopleabout the fucking damn near pass out.
01:20:10Seeing Playboy Cardi because it's music and his cadenceYeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure.Yeah, it's super high energy shit.Is there anything, before we get out,is there anything you want the fans to know the viewersto know your fam to know what to be on the lookout forAnd what's next for Toray?More music, I promise the audience more music,
01:20:29So I'm no more fucking music droughts.Thank everybody, yo.I'm super grateful to be in this positionbecause all of this shit for me, Road Talk Sharp,is the bonus.All I wanted was a,about five peers of joins a gold chain,you know what I mean,
01:20:43be able to go fucking Bob McDonald's every day.I didn't want much.All of this shit is the bonus, bro.All this extra shit, the accolades,the respect from my peers,opportunities to sit down and chop it upwith real ones.All this shit is extra, bro.
01:20:57So I'm living in an extra time right now.So I appreciate all of it.More music, fuck with the podcast,fuck with the radio shows, fuck with the actor,fuck with a real one.I'm here.Hey, man.We appreciate you for coming in,
01:21:08coming and fucking with us, man,and sharing your ins,I'm just what's going on today.When I come down to that New York love one,I'm tapping in, man.For sure, for sure.I'm going to fuck with you.Fuck with me in New York.
01:21:18Hopefully, man, before you get up out of year,we can link up, have a drink or something, man.You know, go chop it up.You know, you got a new friend, man, with you.With it.You did?We're going to do it for real and not to play.You said, aw.
01:21:29A little better knock it off.The Sharp Tank.No jumper.Sharpest, coolest podcast in the world.Hey, Donnie, shoot us out the motherfucking gym.
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