No Jumper - $tupid Young on Getting Banned from Disneyland, Opps Claiming They Took a Chain from His Side & More

Episode Date: November 7, 2024

$tupid Young talks about his No Jumper vlog changing the game for his career, friendship with Drakeo, Mozzy, MBNel, the Disneyland incident, G Face trying to scam him, and more! ----- Promote Your Music with No Jumper - https://nojumper.com/pages/promo CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://nojumper.com NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4z4yCTj... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22     / adam22     / adam22   adam22bro on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No jumper coolest podcast in the world. We're back. Stupid Young. It's the deal, man. Rat games, Bruce Lee. Back again. How you feeling? Good, man.

I'm feeling good. Yeah. I've got my boy right here, A.B. Blue, my artist's out of my section. Hell yeah. How's life? Good, man. Gaining a little weight, you know what I'm saying?

A little bit. I think that was probably good for you, right? Yeah, raising my kids. Same shit. Getting back on the music shit. Oh, yeah? You took a little break? Took a break.

Yep, like a year break. Why? What prompted that? Just life, man. Life beat lifeing, you know? man I almost said that on the podcast right before this I was like where did that come from

life be life and life and for real who is the first person that said that I don't know but that shit got a ring to it yeah there's something about that wait so let just too much shit going on has it ever get just tiring and continuing and do the music thing sometimes it's like living like three

in different lives you know you got your hood if you still active yep you got I got my kids the rapper shit trying to be an entrepreneur all type of shit well you got anything going on entrepreneurial outside of music? Yeah, I was looking in the

Turo. I was trying to invest in Turo. I was trying to buy some cars. Yeah. Yeah, but the catch is, every one thing, you buy a fucking expensive, fancy car, throw it on Turo, and then it's going to get rented out. No, it's the economy cars. Really? Yeah, the basic cars. So what, you buy a Honda Accord and you rent that out?

Buy like a Camry or a Corolla or some shit, yeah, rent it out. Really? Yeah, $50 a day, $60 a day. Shit like that, just try and test it out, you know? Interesting. I didn't know about that. Damn, all right. But you left Long Beach or a while back, are you still around? Yeah, I'm in Calabasas still.

Oh, really? Oh, shit. Property tax is highest, though. Yeah, that's what I hear. Super high. That's about as far as Long Beach as we can imagine from a Southern California perspective. For sure. Damn, that's crazy.

Let's go back into a little bit, though, because, like, all right, do you remember how we even got into the conversation about doing that blog back in the day? He was in that blog. He was young, though. I remember his face guy, yeah. His ranking went up, though. But, um, uh, because I don't remember how we started that conversation. Oh, yeah, I kind of do. You was like, I want to do something different. I want to go to, I want to do a different type of interview. I want to go to your neighborhood. You know what I'm saying? Right. Which is crazy because like at the time I hadn't done anything like that. Even in 2017, 2018, I was still kind of like new to doing like LA street content in general too. Because like we really started with mostly like SoundCloud shit. And it kind of took a little while. in it now.

I'm a little too deep now, yeah. You got ops and all the type of shit. Yeah, it's crazy. The agent curse, we got your back, Adam. No, that's good to know. That's good to know, yeah. But now I'm, like, super concerned about where I'm going and how I'm moving, etc. But back then, I wasn't thinking about shit.

That was just like, pull up to me. All right, cool. I'm coming to Long Beach. Right, right, right, yeah. No, that shit is a viral, bro. That should help my career. I'm not going to lie. Yeah.

That's why a lot of people were like, damn, you still f*** with Adam, man. You caught that case with the wheel. I'm like, man, I got a good lawyer. I beat the case. That should help my career, even though it had the little bump in the road. Yeah, we should probably track down on that one. Yeah, for real. They ready at the hood.

Oh, yeah, he was there for that. But to be fair, like, now when I would, like, go to some of these neighbor and shoot a video, if they were to pull out a gun, I wouldn't think twice about it. The same way, I didn't think twice about it back then either. It was just like, oh, like, shit. I was kind of surprised he had this big-ass gun in a fucking random-ass garage like that. It wasn't a gun, though, allegedly. It was like.

It was like missing like one part, right? Allegedly he was a BB gun. He was just missing a little CO2 part. Right. Wait, so where were you at in the vlog? Because that was one of my main memories from it is that you had that alleyway and there was mad, young-ass kids,

like 16-year-old kids who were like, you know? He was one of those kids. He was one of them too, but he went to prison and lost weight. Right, and we're getting all kinds of hate for pouring up, lean in front of these kids and shit. For sure. We got a song.

Yeah, I was going to get the fucking bottle for y'all. in that corner store that's crazy because that was like I mean I felt like probably a shitload of people found out about you from that and for me too that was the biggest video

we had ever done at that time I think right right yeah there was 13 million views something insane like that yeah yeah and it was weirdly meaningful to me too because I just lived in that fucking area for so long

without really having any clue like knowledge of it right yeah because it was just BMX stuff for me back then and I didn't have any idea I remember like just

driving down the street one day and just seeing a sign and being like, holy fuck, we live in Cambodia town? What the fuck? I had no idea. That's how Long Beach is, though. You know, beautiful city. Just want you hit certain corners. Yeah.

How often you head back there? Often. Very often. I just brought Polo G to the hood. Really? Yeah. You did a video with him? Yeah.

I just brought him to the hood. How did that come about? I just hit him. My engineer got plaques with them and shit. My main engineer that made like a lot of my biggest shit. He engineers Polo G, and he got, like, billboard plaques with him and shit like that. He lined it up, you know. So we brought him to the block.

We had all the members out. Yeah? It was just, yeah, it was crazy. He was fucking with it? Yeah, two Tesla cyber trucks. Everyone's wearing all black. Oh, shit. That shit was viral.

They didn't drop yet, though. We're going to drop it. Wow, that's going to be a crazy-ass thing to see, though. Do you feel comfortable? No, he was good. It was some bullshit going on. It was, you know, a little drama and shit. A couple people fighting and shit, but.

For real? Yeah, I told him, I apologize. You know, I don't think you've seen Asians like, especially from Chicago. He's like, nah, man, it's cool. He's like, I don't look at your Asian or y'all niggas. Yeah. That's funny because we almost saw a fight during that shit, too. I don't remember exactly what happened.

Oh, yeah, my boy, K-U. Yeah, yeah. He got his black dude with no shirt on or something who was kind of like. In our hood, real. Yeah. He was walking up on somebody about to get it cracking and I was a little worried. Oh, my boy, yeah. Yeah, damn.

So many memories of that. The Henny lady wouldn't have known about that. y'all yeah oh she didn't like that oh because she got well i think we blurred her face right she said i did good at that you know but she said uh shirukin him her kids she told me that they're like they're like hey can you can you blur her face with too they're like she started booming like booming like everyone's looking for her type shit yeah yeah like you know a lot of shit was booming even that f***in t-shirt store yeah they're like oh you can get free clothes here for life now oh that's yeah yeah because like people started shopping there the restaurant all type of shit

even mando i think that that's why mando went it went go to help go to help go go go. Oh, for real? Because that vlog. I think that's why I wanted to do that video, though, was because Mando was really fucking big. And I was like, damn, if this dude's got Mazi coming to the block and shit, then it made me feel like you were official. Right, right. No, for so, for so. Yeah, that's crazy. Damn.

Yeah, so that was a wild introduction. But, okay, so you feel like all right, because now that I'm kind of like doing rapper things, I feel like I understand how stressful and difficult it might be to be a rapper, because it takes so much

time to record. Find the songs you actually like, shoot the videos, get all that bullshit done. Especially the new younger generation too, like with all the shit going on and all the TikTok and all the exposure and shit. It's like the pressure is like hard. I'll be having hard time getting him in the studio. He want to be in the hood all day right here. Because like even if you record the song and shoot the video, it's like your work isn't done because you still got to try to find a way to make the shit crack off on some short form TikTok type content. And now you got TikTok the battle with you know, I came from the end. era.

When Mandel took off, there was no, there was no TikTok and shit like that. Right. You know, so it's kind of like you got to adjust. And sometimes TikTok can help your shit grow, but then at the same time, I feel like, you're right. You're right. Like, even me, if we do a song and I put my whole verse on Twitter, I'm kind of like, shit, well, it might go more viral on Twitter, but also that's like a lot of people who are

not going to go watch the video on YouTube because I just put the whole verse on Twitter. So I'm still kind of trying to figure out what the better mentality is. I mean, I'm still with the old school way. I just YouTube, the stream, the DSPs and shit. I'm not too big on TikTok and shit like that, you know? Yeah. But everyone's telling me, oh, you need to be more active on you. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. I feel like TikTok is not made for music promoting. Right. It's like doing other shit. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Other shit. Well, we might be in luck because I don't 100% know if this is true,

but I just saw this on Instagram on Remo's account. TikTok will be banned in the United States starting January 19th. That's crazy, though. That's kind of good, though. You know what I'm saying? That's nuts. That's a good thing. I mean songs going crazy on there, though.

Like me, I'm not a TikTok hater, but, man, I'm from, I'm kind of like from the old school. You know what I'm saying? The homie, he's younger than me. I'm from the Myspace era, Instagram era type of shit. I'm not a hater on TikTok, but also like I've gone through periods where I look at it, but for the most part, I'm rocking with Instagram or I'm putting Twitter. That's exactly. I'm fucking Twitter a lot.

Like, I don't go to TikTok because everything, it just feels like Instagram's the same shit. Twitter, I'm going to see people posting TikToks if they're going about. It just doesn't really occur to me. You're going to see it regardless. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. If you're on TikTok, you can find out about stuff earlier. But, you know.

My girl will be on that motherfucker-no, learning. She'll make some shop, like, yeah, we can learn this from TikTok. Yeah. TikTok University. Or you know where I hear a lot? It's like a good and a bad thing. People would be like, oh, we got to find somewhere to go get lunch. I'm going to look at TikTok.

And I'm like, what? What about Yelp? What about Apple Maps? I love Yelp. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I look at Postmates before I look at.

and anything. Wait, what made you look at him as the one who had the potential to actually be a rapper? I look at all the homies, bro. If it's a homie right now from our session, and, you know, they got no smut on their name, and they'd be like, oh, I want to, I can rap. So I put them in a studio. I didn't put a gang of different homies in the studio, but it was like certain homies that stood out as him and another dude, but the other homie he, he in the prison right now. Free Rodo. Okay. But then they all did a million on their own type shit, you know what I'm saying, like doing numbers by their self. Right.

So that's what, like, call my attention to. Like, damn, you know, they got potential. Why not help them? Oh, yeah. If I made out the hood, shit, you know, bring them to. No, that's dope. Each one to each one. I mean, seven years later, does it feel like the world understands your culture a lot better than they did back when we first did that video?

Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's like we gave birth to a million Asian rappers now a lot in the hood, Asian rappers in the hood. and the South everywhere. Like, it's crazy. Like, you know. But we were the pioneers, though, for sure.

Right. No, yeah. I mean, that is true, because it feels like the street music scene, the drills scene, whatever you might want to call it, has, like, opened up so much over the years that it's like,

yeah, a lot more people have the confidence to try to put themselves out there and shit. Right, right. Yeah. Damn, that's interesting. Okay, so from your perspective, though, like, how did you get into the rap and shit? Shit.

I just had, um, hit camp. And I started rapping in the ear. And I had to call him. Yeah, I told him I wanted to get into that shit. He just said, make sure you were hard. And I was just like, bro, I'm going to show you when I come out. Yeah, no, no. Because I'm on, well, all the homies, we're honest, though.

He's going to be blunt, though. He ain't going on. We're not. We straight up. Like, you know. Oh, yes, man. And that's how I started rapping juvenile camp. They got a program in there and shit.

Oh, for real? Yeah, a juvenile hall program. That program's still going. Yeah, still going to this day. Yeah. I was like a pioneer from that shit, too. That's gotta be tough to have like a homie who really, really wants to rap and you're looking at him like. But Adam, you gotta look at it from our perspective.

It was harder. Look at our eyes, we Asian. Right. This shit is like, it's two times harder. Hispanic is on fire right now. Super on fire. And I could show you, I could sit, you know, sit down with you and show you all these Asian rappers, talented. You don't see like a bunch of stupid young, ambinial or like mini-meas type shit.

Right. That's hard. It's just the Asian scene, we're just not known. Right. You know what I'm saying? Whoa, I just realized you f*** with MB now and you fuck with Mazi. Yeah. And you just put out the EBK flow.

Hey, I'm going to clear the air right now. That EBK flow, don't got nothing to do. It don't got nothing to do with the stock then. Yeah, it's a, no, and it's a dude from Long Beach. S money, shout out S money. He dropped the song called EBK Flow, and I just kind of remixed it. Oh, I didn't even know that. I got to check out the original then.

You know who I'll rock with in stock. Right. Bands, free bands. Oh, okay. So when's the last time you saw Mazi? Probably like, what, three weeks ago? Oh, yeah? He came to our studio.

How's that? He just lay down the verse for me. We're always in connection. So Stockton politics doesn't matter down here from your perspective? So it goes like, it's kind of like weird, bro. Yeah, it's kind of, it's kind of like weird. It's kind of like an alliance. Your grandfathered into being cool with both of them.

Your grandfathered in. Yeah, look, boy. Holy shit. Our alliance, been for him. So we've been with Mazzi. We've been with NB NB NL and then NBNL brought the Fly Boys, bands and then we've been locked in. But then now you got EBK linking with Bounceback Meek and then they'll leak what, I don't know who, LavishD and all these other people. Right. And Lavish D linked with top rank. Mothers, you know, it's like a whole

alliance, bro. Yeah. Like some weird shit. But we've been, we do it first though. That's what I'm saying. But I've seen that shit happen with like the Bay and Stockton and sack and shit. And And then from my perspective, it's kind of like, oh, as time goes by, those same, that same divide might kind of creep on down to L.A. as well in terms of like who you could be cool with. It do creep down. But, you know, we've been locked in with them dudes. Everybody know that. I'm pretty sure the EBK dudes know that too. They know, you know, I don't have spoke to a couple of them, salated my DMs and shit.

But, you know, it is what it is. We rock with who we rock with. It's deeper than that rap shit, too. Because you got to understand. We got a chapter, Or Hood, Asian boys, we got a chapter in Stockton. Right.

And some of those dudes, you know, I don't want to say who, but is affiliated with N.B and fly boys and all that. Right. It's like, you know? Is there a part of you

that wants to just be like, listen, this is L.A., Long Beach, whatever. No, no, no, no. We've been doing this. We are not taking sides and whatever the fuck y'all got going on.

No, never. It shouldn't even be a question, because, yeah, if you'd be for one city, Asian boys, you'd be for everybody. Oh, okay, because I don't,

I'd have been in juvenile hall where it's kind of like, oh, we don't beef with y'all. We'd be for your. We'd be for your homies in San Gabriel Valley. I'd be like, oh, I still need that. You know. Off the back. You know, off the back, like four extras. Yo, that's the new slogan, man. And he was just in the county with him right there.

Oh, for real? I say he liked that. He liked that. He liked that. Yeah, I heard anybody say the four extras is capping. Nah, yeah. Off the back. Off the back is huge.

Shout off four extras. He gets mad at me every time I say, off the cack. Sounds a little too zesty, I guess. Probably shouldn't play around with that. So, okay, you mentioned it, but recently we did the TRG interview, and they were not a few words that were displaying a chain that had allegedly been taken from somebody on your side? I don't want to say too much about it, Adam,

but that's all my kids, heartbeat, that's on my son and my daughter. They never took that chain from any of us. Had nothing to do with them. I'm going to keep it real. It was another group that got it. But the way they got it is like some sucker shit too. And that's all my kids. I'm not capping on here or nothing.

They pepper sprayed the homie. They pepper sprayed the homie. The homie trying to fight them or Wutti Woo, long story short, and they confiscated the chain. And then the top ranked dudes, like I said, they're building alliances. They're looking for other dudes that don't like us like, hey, y'all want to join us.

And that's how they found the chain. And that's how they got the chain. They never, them dudes never scratched us, laid a, laid a finger on us. Was that, was there a time, Rewinding the clock in which all the Cambodians in Long Beach were cool? Yeah. All you know, a lot are hood brashed off their hood.

Okay. Yeah. During my dad generation and shit. Right. I heard it was over a girl or something like that, but it is what it is. You know, I'm a happy where I'm at on this side. Right. We, we're doing good, so.

But, okay, did you feel like that was a relevant interview for us to be doing in the first place, or did you feel like that was kind of... I felt I ain't going to lie. You want me keep it all the way at $126. Because they're doing all right numbers and shit. They're doing okay numbers, but, you know, I felt like, you know, the way you was interviewing them, you was just like, you know who I'm rocking with. And the way Lush was interviewing him, was like, yeah, bro, these guys are the biggest Asian shit.

Let's compare numbers. Come on, bro. The homie by itself, one video, bro, not even featured me. And it's on top of that. It's not even on my channel. One video, you know, top day shit. And he's by himself. Right.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, Lush is very enthusiastic. I was hoping last year. I was like, don't switch shit. Don't jump ships now. Yeah. But I know he's just doing his job.

He ain't made me yet and shit. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. He haven't met the real deal. He interviewed. He did another interview with them like six months earlier, a year earlier. So I guess he, uh, he felt like he was already clicked up. Yeah.

Yeah. Damn. But, okay, so shit, like, when they're displaying that chain and shit, though, like, did that piss you up, like looking to the comments and sort of realizing that a lot of people were taking us at face value? See, like us, the thing about my section, like the Asian Crips, we're not, we're not on the media like that. Like we do shit behind closed doors and we just, we just don't display it. You know what I'm saying? Like we've been had one of their chains that we actually got from them and we just don't display it.

Because that's what you're showing in that EBK video, right? Yeah, exactly. That little ass shit. Yeah, that little ass change. Where did that come from? Came from one of the dudes that was sitting right there on your couch. I don't say no names, you know, but that's all my kids' heartbeat that it came from him. Oh shit, that's crazy.

And you know what's crazy? That's crazy that some of his homies act like they don't know what happened. They never happened. Because you know why, old boy didn't probably tell them. They didn't. Yeah, he probably didn't tell them. He just, you know, kept it to itself. Oh shit.

But we don't display shit like that. The only reason why we flossing that shit in the video because they want to play that little game. So we play that little game too. Wow. I said we play it worse. Damn. are the cops on this type of shit? Is there like a real reason for you to be?

We ain't really putting any shit out there like that though. Yeah. The cops is like, man, you don't fucking is too slick. No, I'm telling you, the Long Beach Asians, like, yeah, like, we're not on the front street with it. We're not, we're not on the media with it, like, air, like the whole fucking industry and rap game is. Yeah. Like, even if we confiscate something from you or we did something, we're not going to be like, hey, we're not on live. None of that shit.

It's just, it's strictly within our hood because we're laughing behind closed doors. Right. You know what I'm saying? They're kind of like that. Yeah, they're kind of like that too, though. I'm not going to lie. I'm not saying with the business. I'm saying like discreet.

You know what I'm saying? Maybe because they never did nothing to it like that. They got nothing to like. But you're saying that in general, compared to a lot of rappers, it seems like there's a culture of not being a total. I know you see it. I see this shit on your fucking podcast. I know you see that shit.

Yeah. Like where dudes is just burnt out. Burnt out. I mean, it's mind blowing. It's something like the Dirk thing. And then they blame you. That's the cold part. Oh, yeah.

That's good. I know you get a lot of that shit out. I know it. Even right now, it feels like people are blaming us for dirt getting caught up when it's like, damn, bro. Yeah, I'm seeing. You heard these songs. Yeah.

Like, nigga, listen to this. Listen to that. We're discreet. Us, we're in a way like when we say something or do some is if you know, you know. That's it. Yeah. And we're going to keep it like that. You know?

Yeah. If you're a rapper, you kind of, you've got to keep certain shit close to your chest. We were just, our hood is just structured. We were, we were, we were raised different. I think you could just, I think a lot of that. You get a beat down for some burnt that shit. I think L.A. rappers look at the Chicago rappers and they see the Chicago rappers blowing up off basically putting out all their dirt.

So they do it too. So they're like, we got to hop on this too. Oh yeah, I'm smoking a woo-ty-woo in the wood. Yeah, that's burnt, man. That's not Southern California. That's not, that's not my neighborhood. Yeah, for sure. Definitely.

Wait, but so if you get locked up, Do you got to be cool with all the other Cambodians? Are you guys all on the same page all of a sudden? Not in the county. We can run fakes, but in the pen, yeah. Believe it or not, yeah. I don't talk to, like, dudes from the other side. They weren't from Long Beach.

But also, you don't got to be buddy-buddy with them. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you could just fucking, you know, ride, crack off. We, you know, we're going to have each other back of that shit. Right. But you don't got to be all best friends with them and shit. But is there a part of that that makes you feel like shit? Like, maybe I...

should work towards making this less of a thing on the streets? A lot of people always come at me with that. Like, you know, they're like, you got the influence. You got the power of the Asian rap shit. And you could make a difference. You could do this and that. Nah, they're talking to the wrong one. Because I don't lost, like, close homies, bro.

Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, that neighborhood I took you to, I don't lost, like, boys that I know for a fact. Because, you know, you hear that corny saying, oh, he would have wanted you to do this. He would have wanted you to do better. Yeah, oh no, he doesn't. We know exactly what he wants,

we know exactly what he was. Well, but that's, that's anybody assuming that once you die. That if you, like, people picture, you die, you're up in heaven and you no longer have any of the same instincts you would have in the street, which maybe, I don't really know.

No, you know my favorite saying, right? What? Because we didn't have been through too much funners. The homie just, we just had a funeral, like, you know, it wasn't for no option, but we just had a funeral, like, three days on Friday. Uh-huh.

And we know, I don't lost a lot of people. And the old saying I always hear is, and I always tell them, shut up. Because the saying I always hear is, oh, he's in a better place. How do you know? Did you go? You went to that place and you came back? How you know we didn't go to hell or some shit? You know what I'm saying?

Because they'd be like, you ever thought about that? Like, when someone passed, they'd be like, oh, he's in a better place. Like, how do you know that? That's a terrible thing. You feel me? I mean, it's even worse from my perspective because I'm an atheist. So I think when you die, it's just nothing. So, I mean, to me, being alive is the sole gift because everything else is just, I assume when you die, it's nothing.

Yeah, he can't get no fussy. Like, how you know it's a better place. Yeah, that's why I know. If I knew I had a week to live, I'd be living it up. Like, that's like, you know, because I assume that it's all over after this. And I know that I'm not going to be able to take it with me when I die. It's not like I'm going to be sitting around remembering all the bitches. Like, oh, yeah, I'm in a better place.

Yeah. Damn. But do you see like any kind of future for that sort of thing? Or you think it's just going to keep getting worse? Are you two burnt out to imagine that? It's always going to be up. You know what I'm saying? I'm not going to say, I'm not saying I'm always going to be forever active, but I am.

I love my homies. I love my hood. You got understand, it's my family. My dad is from here, my uncle's from here. And like same thing with him, you know? Like we tied in. So I'm always being around, bro. I'm not saying I'm always putting work just in that.

But I'm always be around. And like it's always gonna be up. Like I feel like even one of my kids have kids, it's gonna be up like regardless. It's already too deep. Definitely. No way. I feel it.

I wish that we could, you know, initiate shit moving more towards peace. But okay, you tell me though, in your world, is there like generally respect for what the old heads have to say about shit? Or is it more like the young dudes making the rules? We understand what they're saying. We understand what they're saying. But it's kind of like, when they say something,

and then we speak our opinion, like, Nah, that we ain't going with that. But even our older homies, bro, they don't be pushing for that shit like that. Not really. It'd be like really old old old. It'd be like really one old dude. Yeah, one old niggie. Be like, yeah, one old niggins.

That don't understand what's going on. You guys got to understand. We came from Cambodia to give you all a better future this and that. But the young dudes is just like, you look, you was out here doing the same shit. You was doing when you was our age. Right. So it's like you can't judge. Yeah.

Right. And then there's a dead issue. Go back to the same shit. Definitely. Yeah. I mean, do I think it's sad? Yeah, I think it's sad. Like, we heard our own people.

Because, I mean, from, I can't, you know, we're a little different than the Mexican and the blacks. Our people came here. They escaped the war. True. The millions of people killed during the Cambodian refugee war. Our parents escaped to the U.S. and to give us a better life. Right. And that's why the grandparents, the number one saying when someone dies or some shit, them or us,

they'd be like, we came in to give y'all better future and you guys here doing the same shit. We might as well just stay back home and during the war and get killed my own people. You know what I'm saying? But it's already too deep. There's already a gang of bloodshed for that shit. Definitely. Damn.

Yeah. I mean, I hope. I didn't make the rules. I hope it moves in a positive direction, but at the same time, your shit is your shit, you know? It's sad, yeah. I'm not going to be, I'm not trying to display a tough image. Like, yeah, them dudes is up.

Like, no, bro. Like, it's sad. but it's too late. We signed up for it. You know what I'm saying? Right. So it is what it is. Definitely.

What happened in that Disneyland video? Was that a result of this sort of thing? Oh my God. He called me all guard with that one. I'm going to just keep it short, bro. So I was with my girl and my uncle, and they went, they went to go Disneyland for her brothers. Her brother, which was the big dude, her brother's kid birthday. So we went, we in line.

And this is exactly what happened. This is all my kids' heartbeat. Like my girl is my witness and my uncle is my witness who was there with me in the video. I see a dude that looks real familiar. He looked like the dude from the other side, right? Right. And then he kept, he walked. I was in the line.

We just walked in the food line. He walked past me. And then I was like, damn, I looked at my uncle. I'm like that. In my head, I'm like, that looks like the little roche. So he walked past and he had a back. And what confirmed it was he had a backpack with a Cambodian flag. So I'm like, that's him.

That's him. If you don't know him. It's probably somebody you don't go along with? Like, first I was like, oh, they look like the app. And then as soon as he walked past, he looked at me too. We locked eyes. And he had a little smirk on him when he was with his girl. He walked past.

Yeah, he walked past. Really a square, though. Yeah, he walked past. And then what confirmed it was, his backpack had a Cambodian flag on it. So then I couldn't keep my composure. It's like, if I continue my day at Disneyland and let that slide, I would have felt like a buster the rest of the day. Okay. Can't sleep it off, God.

You feel me. I didn't lose pop off, Danny, Dallas for this shit. it for me to just, I don't get, where we at? You know what I'm saying? So then I'll tell my girl, hey, I'm like, that's a roach. I'm going to go call him out. I'm going to just call his fate out. She's like, no, it's Darlene's birthday.

Like, you're going to ruin stuff. I'm like, nah. And mind you, her brother that was in that video, he was already in there. He came two hours early because it's his daughter's birthday. He's in Disneyland somewhere around already. And then I said, I'm going to go call him. And I told my uncle to come with me to record so I could show, like I said earlier, We don't displace show in the media

But what I thought was going to happen was I'm going to say go to the bathroom He's going to go to the bathroom We're going to get out My uncle is a square You know like nothing with the gang shit He's going to record And I'm going to show the homies and laugh

Because I'm going to beat the fuck out of him So then when I go approach him He turns around and sees me already I said, what's up? I said go to the bathroom That's when he pulls out the phone Okay That cloud chasing shit

Yeah he never seen me And then put out Or ran up on me I went to go do that And my girl know like, oh, you know, and my uncle. You know, and I know bias, but all my kids' heartbeat, if I lie, they die. Like, that's exactly what happened.

But I forgot this, this op dude is a young generation. Right. I'm from the old school. I'm from where niggas call you out. You get out. You're going to get out, and you're going to go about your day. Like in jail. If we got a way to get out in jail without catching extra time, we're going to get out

the way. But then when you do shit like he did, put out of phone and start yelling and shit, that's called PC move in jail. You do that so it catches attention. So then the staff stops it and breaks it up. And then he puts the video out and basically uses to paint the narrative that you were. Exactly. And then I put my video out where.

Did you see the other video? I've seen the other video of the bigger dude fighting the dude, right? Yeah, exactly. Who was filming that? My uncle. Oh, okay. My uncle that's supposed to film us fighting originally. So look, he could have had a fair fade with me.

And the dude looked a little athletic. He's tall, you know, taller than me. We could have had a good fade, a long fade too. No stopping that. Yeah, he's yelling and shit, right? The police going to come, PC move. We only going to fight for a minute. So I forgot, I got to, that's why I said, Adam, I'm from the old school.

It's a new generation. I forgot niggas is young. They're doing weird shit. He really was fans out. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, who the fuck does that? Bro, I never, we're at once. I ran up with me.

I pulled a phone out ever, bro. Like, that's just weird shit. Wow. And then that's, yeah, that's how that story went down. And then, look, that's when my kids' heartbeat. Again, I never called the fucking bigger dude, which is my brother-in-law, to come fucking take my battles for me or my faith for me. My girl called him, Koya, Koya.

Koya means, like, older brother in the Philippines. It's like, Koya, Koya, Al is getting to her with some money. He comes over and says, where is he at? And then he spots him, and boom. And, you know, I'm on probation at the time, too. That's why I want to go to the bathroom. But automatically, even if I wasn't on probation, I would still want to go to the bathroom. Right.

That's where you want to make no scene. Yeah. Didn't get a Disneyland ticket? You know how much it costs? Yeah. And a lot of security. Pretty much like the least friendly environment for fighting that you could ever imagine is Disneyland. Bro, I had a pass.

I'm bad now. I had a pass. I'm bad now. Yeah. I'm banned because the dude don't want to. He didn't want to go to the bathroom. He didn't want to go to the bathroom. We were going to jump him.

The seam maker. You see my uncle. You'd be like, oh. I'm not worried about him. I even told the dude, like, Mom, he's going to record. Come on, let's go. Like, you know? Right.

And then that's when I was like, oh, you want to put your phone? I'll pull out my phone, too. Yeah. But I forgot it's a new era. We're in the new era. Hitting the bathroom for the fade, though, like, I would never think of that. But that is gangster shit. But that's also something that you probably wouldn't think of if you hadn't been to jail or been to prison.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that's a good way to put it. You know. Because they do learning schools, too. No, but look, Adam. That's true. No, but look, Adam.

About a long time since I was in school here. No, but look, you got to look at it like this. A nigga call you all and he tell you to go here because it makes sense. Right. Then go. Yeah. Like, if you really signed up about that, he got our hood whacked on his arm but never heard none of us. Come.

Wouldn't hurt a fly. Yeah. He'd never. Nothing. He's not even from Long Beach. But he run with them. Not even from there. He used to be in their video.

Maybe they kicked him out. I don't know after that. Wow. But he got, he just got a fresh tap. Wow. Like, I keep tabs on these dudes, like dudes because I study them because, you know, this is our shit. So that's how I recognize him. Really?

He probably thought I didn't know who he was. He got the A upside down on his arm. So I'm like, dude, if you really bought that, go to the bathroom. So you still pay close attention that shit, even though you're in Caldbass? He tells us. I play close attention. I'm pretty sure. Look at 50th, he's a street dude, business man.

I'm pretty sure he paid attention to people that don't like him. Man, I pay a lot of attention to 50s moves, and he's the most petty famous person on that. That's my favorite. That's one of my favorite. I love them too, but also a lot of times I'll be noticing like myself ready to just let a beef go. And I'll be feeling good about it. I'll be like, oh, this is good. This is good.

We're moving in the right direction. Now I'll think about 50 and be like, damn, 50 would not let it go. 50 would sue the mother-fiel. Try to make them go bankrupt. That's the type of shit I'm on. Make fun of them on Instagram for the next couple years. You know, like whatever. Adam, you know?

I'm on that shit. It ran out of chase. Dave, so you can never go back to Disneyland? Oh, man. I can't get a fucking pass. I probably could go and sneak in with a ski down. That's a smart Disney. Do they have like a Disneyland court where you could like challenge your band?

Yeah, yeah. They told me to call this number and shit, but I don't want to deal with that. That's extra. It's kind of an iconic move. I think, oh, Gizi's banned for Disneyland for the same. Well, not for beefing with an app, but I think he was just beefing with a random employee or something. That's kind of doubt, though.

It's like it's a cool club to be a part of. Shit. It must feel good. had no ops, you know what I don't know. I don't know how that feel, but. Oh, the Shoreline got ops. I've seen some music video. Some random-ass dudes dissing them over the years. Shout out, Phoenix. That's my boy. Phoenix, my boy. Oh, for real? You don't like O'Jeezy? No, it ain't that, but, you know. He's trying to stirs and shit. No, I'm in the dark on that one. He's trying to sneak that one. Phoenix, though. Phoenix's a good guy.

That's dope to see them back together, though. Damn, see, that's really, that's really what we need is we need the Cambodian Shorline Mafia. You definitely got to be at the head. We got that. My section got a bunch of rappers that's dope as fuck. But they just, you know, I'm rocking with my boy right now. I've been rocking. One of the ones, though. Yeah, because you don't want to immediately take on four or five rappers

and have to blow them all up. You got to go one or two at a time. Them dudes doing numbers by themselves. And like, when I go travel and, like, I went to Thailand last year and I go to other places, do shows and shit, they bring them up. The younger crowd with the younger rapper. Yeah. And that shit means a lot to me, bro.

Like a lot. Yeah, no, that's dope. Okay, well, I'm glad we got a lot of that information straight out. But one last note, though, is that I guess somebody from TRG said that they got $50,000 on a fight with you. And they called you an old head rapper. That's weird. No, he's trying to stir shit up. I don't know.

If they're out here saying, he doesn't want to know what you think. Would you be open to the sort of like celebrity. I'm gonna keep it real, Adam. I don't think they got 50 band, bro. Like, no, I'm keeping it real, Adam. I don't. They need to speak realistically, hear me? They all share one or two chains,

but I don't think they got, they even got that much money. And if they did, shit, we can, even, like, I wouldn't agree to it. You know why? Because that's just weird. Like, why would I meet up with my op and be like, hey, okay, let's, let's, let's shake hands.

The camera shit, yeah, bro. I'm trying to do more than the morning. The morning fight. We'll be on the same. You know what I'm saying? I'm just... I'm just... Keeping the real...

Whenever anybody goes to the celebrity boxing match, it's kind of confusing to me because that just feels like... Like, you know that's not going to happen. It's just a way for you to... No, but like... Okay, like, celebrity boxing matches cool. Like, your dudes have, like, yeah, it's not real.

That's not real... Yeah. Because it'll always usually be somebody who's like not really that famous being like, yeah, I'll fight you for $100,000. And I'm like, I heard what people get paid for these celebrity box matches. You know this, though, right? It's very unlikely.

It's the people. People were less clout that be, that be, that be, that be, that be, that be, that be, that be, promoting it. Like, remember when a gang of dudes was trying to fight C-MAT? Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. He had a lot of offers, and it was,

that was never, anybody was, like, on his level. Yeah, exactly. It was always lower. They want the clout, you know. Yeah. He's like, why would I do that with my enemy? Like, you know, damn well, you know, it's gonna go down in that building.

Do you ever tap him with Krimack? Uh, I talked to him before, yeah, he shouted him out. Oh, nice. He's like, shout out my, my favorite Asian Krip. And he said some way out shit, but it was cool. He's like, you know, shout out the A's and they do our nail. Bomb-ass orange chicken. I'm like, this is a nigga burnt out.

He would say that. Snorange chicken is insane. Oh, man. You said, say something like that, it just makes me miss him like that. No, I'm not even capping. He really says some shit like that. Yeah. I got the video, too, like, if I look at my archive.

But he always would be showing love to other races. Oh, he's so loved. I remember he got out of jail at one point, and he was just talking about the Mexicans. and the good South Siders with the South Side spreads. And I had never heard him talk about that, but he went in and got real passionate about that. You miss him, Adam? I do, yeah.

When I saw him in court. He had that energy. Yeah, I seen him in court. He was, that's a boy, Adam for sure. I reminded me, like, damn, that was my boy. But, yeah, and it's crazy, though, because it's like my kid talks about him to me. My kid, like, my kid knows about her.

He's like your character is your kid. Yeah, and it's crazy, too, because he's the only person that she knows is in jail. Right, right. So it's like she talks about jail, and then she immediately brings, him up and they will kind of ask questions about it. Free, free crib back.

Yeah, go ahead and entertaining. 100%. The world needs him. Definitely. Okay. I saw you did a video with G-Face. Thoughts on that. How did you get connected with him?

Can I get some of that water? Yeah, of course, yeah. This one ain't cracked it. Man, I was connected with some Armenian dude that I fixed his car. and shit, he fixed my car. Long story, short, he's like, man, I pay you for a feature. You know, you link with my boy.

He just got out. I'm like, all right, so I link with him. And then I link through him, and he's just, you know, he's just a different type of character, you know what I'm saying? You could just tell how he acts, you know what I'm saying? You don't got to be a fucking rocket scientist, like, to see. I'm not saying that he was a rap, but just how he just tried too hard. You thought he was a little off.

Just do too much, yeah, a little off. He was always trying to get me. in that fucking trucking business. Yeah, yeah. He took me out to eat one time, Adam. Yeah, he took me to eat. Yeah. You know what's crazy?

He was like, I'm gonna tell you to some bomb shit. You probably never eat. And you're like, he took me to Korean barbecue. Yeah, I was like, what the fuck me? You know, you know, like, bro, come on. So he took me there and he's like, I'm telling you, young, you can make $10,000 a month. All it takes is this much to sign up.

I'm not stupid. You can't scamma, you can't finesse a finesse. Right. I grew up finesse and shit. And I'm like one of the only. out of all the hundreds of people that didn't fucking jump on that deal with him. I was just like, all right, all right. I've been around them four or five times.

And like, there was always people in my DM, though, Adam. There was always people like, hey, that dude was a rat. He's in a form of it. I was just like, you know, where I come from, you know, in my hood, it's like, you got to see it on black and white. Yeah, I've never seen it. I don't even know his fucking real name. Right.

I just know him as G-Face. But he brought me to his house, took me to eat, and said, oh, yeah jump in his trucking business it just when it sounds too good to be true it's fucking too good to be true oh yeah that's why i'm like i never jumped in that shit yeah for sure i knew someone i forget who it was but they they mentioned to me just real casual like yeah yeah i think i'm about to give gface 20k and i was just like what like you okay i'm kind of like assuming that everybody's gonna pick up on like this is not a great idea look at him informant damn ain't that deep that's like a little dirk situation yeah this motherfucker

at, oh man. He almost sold me a car too. Wait, but OTF jam, dude? Or a G-Face. Jam, jam. Shut the fuck up. You knew him? Huh?

No, no, no. I don't know. I'm saying similar to him. Oh, okay. Informants. Yeah. Informants. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Damn. Come on. Nah, it is crazy because it's like, you know, when you look. I only kept it strictly music with him. Yeah. But when you look at that Dirk situation, like how easily he could have got away with all this if it wasn't for somebody telling?

Yeah, but I kind of understand. because you, a dude that had a rep, a rep, because Dirk was hyping him up in his music, he was saying, jam, got out that jam, gave him 50 racks, he won't ask again. He caught bodies way back when they had Max, Max again. Some shit like that, right? He's looking at a super street dude that came out

that, like, super solid, probably caught some bees on him, and he gave him 50 bands, supposedly a car house and this and that. Who in the world would expect that dude to flip on you? I wouldn't even think that. If I did that for a homie, he would be the last. I would think he would be the number one loyal on my lawyers' homie on my list.

At some point, though, we're going to figure out what the feds came to Oziah Jam with and what they said, like, hey. Someone said he caught a case. Yeah, this is what we have on you. You need to turn into a rat. I don't know, like, coming from that world and, like, how important your reputation is,

it's just so amazing that anybody would become a rat knowing that that will absolutely destroy how people perceive you. I got homies out from my hood like that. I guess if it's that or go get locked up for 20, 30 years, a lot of people would probably just choose to be disloyal, especially considering he was able to keep it a secret for years and years and years. Exactly.

Doing music videos with them while they're talking about rats. Yeah. And he's just there dancing with the wire. Right. That's just diabolical. We're going to learn so much more about how all that shit happened over the next couple of years. It's going to be crazy. But, I mean, all right.

Can you imagine from the perspective of dirt? Vaughn gets killed. And a lot of people are kind of like, damn, he's so crazy for being at the top of his game and still feeling the need to go send people to get revenge. And on one hand, yes, crazy. But it's almost impossible for me to imagine somebody like Dirk not investing his money in some way in making that happen.

Exactly. Because look, he lost his close dog, someone he built up. And everybody knows it did it. Everybody's seen it. Yeah, exactly. So it's like, why would he not? You know what I'm saying? Because we know how these Chicago dudes deal with issues.

And it's not that different from how a lot of different people who are in the streets deal with shit. But the idea that like that, it all would have stopped there. Oh, they stay in L.A. Or they're from wherever and that we're not going to do something to get retaliation. I just don't see how they would have been able to do that. It just seems unlikely. When you got money, you could do a lot of shit, Adam. You know that.

A lot of shit. Like, when you got money, you can do a lot of shit. And we see that with him and thugged, that, like, when you have money, you feel like there's no chance that you getting caught. Yeah, you have power. And then when you do it once, you get away with it, you think you could do it again. Yeah. It's crazy.

This is crazy. Free Dirk, though. I'm glad I got a video. Bro. With Dirk? Yeah. What year? 2018.

Oh, shit. That's dope. Before he became. The voice. He came out. Where did you meet up with him? Atlanta. We went to Atlanta.

He was thinning and shit. Yeah, because I interviewed him, I think, in 2018 too. And I knew it was a dope interview, but I definitely didn't think of it as, like, the craziest interview. He could. He cool. Taco, he's good.

That's solid. But, like, AC interviewed him a couple years ago, and it was, like, huge. It was like, whoa, this is the biggest interview of Acts ever. None. 2018, I wasn't really tripping about it that hard, which kind of says a lot about how much he blew up. Yeah.

Free him, though, man, real dude. You know, he just got caught. up with some stuff. Oh, yeah, for sure. Okay. L.A.'s kind of had like the spotlight on us over the past six months or whatever due to the Kendrick versus Drake Beef. Have you been locked in paying attention to that or is that not super interesting to you?

Yeah, I've been paying attention to it, but I feel like Long Beach got their own shit going on, like politics and shit, you know what I'm saying? Right. Like, you know, we're still in L.A. County, but I feel like we got our own shit going on. No, definitely. type shit. But does that... It was interesting, though.

Does it create a little bit of hometown pride, even when you're talking about somebody who's not going to... Yeah, because, you know, we're from the West Coast, but... It's kind of like, I ain't going to lie. Like, Drake wanted to do it first. With me right now, I do it first. That's one of my other crosses I have right now when you do with Drake. Yeah, it only got nothing to do with my politics.

You know, one of his closest boys, one of his dogs, dogs, like, it was probably on his last post he was with him. Like, he's with him all the time. Nico. Oh, yo, Nico. Shout on Nico. That's... He's Filipino.

Oh, okay. You follow me. And, like, I still, like, message him and talk to him even after the beef. Right. So it's kind of like, you know, I never once told Nico, though, like, hey, let me press play for Drake. Play my shit to Drake. But Nico, when I, like, I dropped the EBK flow, he liked it. You know what I'm saying?

You know, he f***ed a comment on that, whatever. But it's kind of like, we out of them politics. That's the beautiful thing about my neighborhood. We don't fall under nobody category. We don't got to check in with nobody. we got our own shit going on. Yeah, no, definitely. But do you feel like, you know,

because it feels like there's a lot of people who jumped out the window in terms of supporting Kendrick during all this, but then we've also had a lot of people pointing out, like, hey, Kendrick ain't doing nothing for y'all. Yeah. Do you find that convincing in any way? Like, would you expect that if you were somebody

who had been on stage at the concert and shit? They're saying, I don't got too much to say because some of them do that was on stage is my homies. Right. But I feel like if Drake was, to hit them up to do a song, they're on it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

So it's kind of like who you, you know, bandwagon and shit like that. Yeah. But us, I can only speak for us. Like, you know, we from a different area. Long Beach is different. Do you ever hear people listening to Kendrick in Long Beach? Yeah, hell yeah. Not like us or other shit as well?

That as well. Other shit too. Other shit too. Yeah, yeah. My boy, Savvy 3, Free Savvy. That's one of his favorite rapper. Oh, Nandridge, you know? Where's savvy at?

He's locked up? Yeah, yeah. He didn't actin stupid. He was rotto. He was rotto. He was rotto? Free them, man. Free, fri, fri-rado and free savvy.

Yeah, what about job of loke? That dude, bunt. Oh, you don't fucking. Oh, you don't fucking. I thought you used to fucking about him. Hell no, I never fucked it on. Oh, never mind. In my whole life.

That dude on paperwork. Oh. Okay. Didn't he get busted for robbing the jewelry store? Yeah. I don't know. I got homies from over there, too, you know. Oh, okay.

Pitman and other people. Matter of fact, hit man to do, he told him, but I don't want to get deep into it. Long Beach politics. But no, the reason why I say Frippa is because when I was coming up, when I got out prison in 2016, I was trying to make a name. So I'm like, who the hottest mother's in Long Beach? I hit up job. Yeah, he was popping at the time. And then he was like, come to the studio.

I go to the studio, right? Grito was over there. Nobody know who the f***o was. Real. Grito was over there with his homie Gooch or whatnot. And then, you know, I was. I introduce myself to them. And then they're like, oh, what you doing over here?

I'm about to do a song with Jabba. So Jabba tells me to write my verse. I'm writing to a beat, right? He goes in a whole different room. The whole fucking session, he's in a different room. So I have to take initiative and walk out. Go to the other room and say, hey, bro, I'm done. I've been waiting.

I got my girl in the car and shit like that. He said, oh, he said, I got to go somewhere. I'll take care of it later. Like on some Hollywood and shit, bro. And I didn't met like big people now. I don't met like 50 cents. I talked to Nipsey on the phone. I didn't do like talk to a gang of big artist, A-list artists.

They never treated me like that. Really? Like how my own fellow Long Beach Native treated me. Did he do the verse eventually? Never. Really? Never, yeah. Did you pay him?

I didn't have to pay him. Oh, okay. I wasn't like that? I didn't have money. I was broke. I just got out the pen, 2016. But he told me to come do a verse with him. Right.

And then when I came, he just was in a whole different room. And then when I said, hey, I'm done. He said, I got to go. That's something. Hollywood. He was feeling it so. You know, he's Hollywood. That's crazy. Damn. Yeah, shit.

I got more than I asked for on that question. No, no, that's just interesting how that shit plays out. Just keeping it real. I forgot we were on the interview. No, it's not. There was a lot of long of these talk on this podcast for a while there, though, because we had DW Flame on here consistently for a little while. That's my boy right there.

Shout out Flame. Shout out flame. That's my boy. That was the one. wild time though because there was a lot of long shout out P. Nice. That's my dog. Pete Nice showed me love when I came home. He put me on the, on, I'm from Long Beach

video. Oh, yeah. I wrote. Right. Right. Yeah. They did my dogs right there. We locked in, we locked in with that section right there. Definitely. Was that weird though to see like so much Long Beach talk going on for a little while there? What do you mean? I don't know. Is there like a lot of bull? And being around? Not even those being around

by the fact that it ended up kind of turning into like a DW versus Brick like kind of arguing about who says. No, the neighborhoods I'm getting along. Yeah. Then I get along. Yeah. So, you know.

That was an introduction to that for a lot of us. Our neighborhood would, savvy third DWP night's section. We would, we like this. Right. Like, we're like this. What would you have done if you saw Big Sadd's shooting a video on DW's hood? Damn, I know sad.

Call it in, report it. I know sad too. Yeah, probably. Nah, I don't got no comment on that. No, we're going to pass on that one. I know. I know, I'm at my impact. Yeah, yeah, fuck was sad.

Um, okay. So, damn. So I realize as I'm doing this, there's so many of my questions kind of like go back to a little beast and shit. I don't want to seem like I'm just completely focusing in on that. I'm being honest. Like, you know, I'm just being frustrated with you. No, no doubt. But, okay, I want to ask this.

How did you actually tap in with Draco in the first place? Because you guys had a pretty epic fucking song, a little boozy at one point. Do you remember how you met him? Yeah, Juvenile Hall. How long? How long ago, man, nigger didn't get out. Nigger went to placement. Placement is, you know, a place where you're.

your parents if they don't really want you like that type of shit. I went over there. I had nine months in there. And then I hung out all the blacks. So it was like bloods, cribs. And like, you know, I was the only Asian. I'm always the only fucking Asian in June now. And would you the only Asian too?

Yeah. Be like that. So like, so I was in placement. And the whole facility and shit. And then my roommate was a midget from Paroo. Really? They called him Sautoff or a half pint, two names. Wow.

Chester Anthony, I remember that motherfucker. He was a real-life midget. He looked like Wee Man, but he black, and he got the C-wacked out. And I always get on him about the heat, like, man, it ain't for y'all. You know it's for the black crab. Anyways, Draco was the baby out of our group, at that whole group we hung out with. And we always used to beat on the desk and rap and shit like that and write rhymes. I was rapping, the black niggas was rapping.

But Draco never fucking rap over there. That's what confused me. Really? And then, yeah, Darryl Calwood, that's my boy. And then I remember the first day he came, I banged him. I was like, where are you from? He was like, I'm bang. I grew up around Bud Long and shit like that.

And we just got close. He was my boy. He was the baby out of the group. And then he bought, oh, it was my birthday. Because you get home passes in placement. You can go home for a weekend and come back, right? Oh, he was the flyest motherfucker in placement, though. Like he was wearing true religion and red monkeys back then.

Really? Like, he was, like, I don't know. His mom was buying him all that clothes, but he was the flies motherfucker They're in there. We're over here wearing what the placement gave us. Yeah. Haynes, and shit. But he was flying.

And then he went on the home pass. He came back. He bought me a green A's hat for my C day. He's just like, here, happy birthday, big bro. I'm like, yeah, he's like, I'm gonna go home. He had six months. I had nine. I'm all right, bro.

I'll catch you on the streets, you know. I got his number. We never linked up. All of a sudden, 2013-ish, 14-ish, I see a rapper blowing, like not blowing up, but people are talking about it. him on Twitter. It was that cover,

was it Mr. Mosley? It was a cover where he was all purple. And then they're like, yeah, he got a new style of rapping. It's like fucking lean rapping or, I don't know what the fuck they call it. So I looked at his picture. I'm like,

what the fuck that's Darrell? I hit him up on Twitter. We start connecting. And then boom, he went to jail. Then when he came out, I went to jail. And I came out and he went to jail. And then boom, we just never connected.

But we was always talking. And then next you know, I'm like, damn, nigga, you grew up. you were on your way you gotta blow up you know what me and as soon as he got out that last time he invited me to his career

whatever fuck he was recording shooting dice with Ralphie and then it just happened naturally you feel me yeah he'll always keep me in his favor though

because remember you did an interview with me and I was like you know shout on the mountain shit yeah yeah yeah but that was like one of my favorite videos and that was kind of like right when he got out from that that bid that we felt

like he was never going to come home from at some point and then you guys did Yeah, that song. He just got out that video. Yeah, I was fresh out. Oh, really? You shot it in like a fake restaurant type setup, right?

Yep. And I remember watching that. Okay, when you shot that video, were you wondering why the chorus of the song was, I just did some shit to the top of a little boozy? Because at the time, I'm like, that's interesting. It made sense. Right. Because it's case.

Being a person that had been in jail, gang of times, and a felon, I knew what the fuck he was saying. But he said that to me, it was over. He recorded in front of me, but I was so busy shooting dice with the homie and Ralphie taking Ralphie money. I'm just like, you know, like, I'll record it another time, just send it to me. As soon as I got it in my email or my text, we left, I'd play in the car. I'm like, damn, that motherfucker's hard, you feel me? So I had to come, I had to write for that shit.

Right. But I remember when I realized that that was a serious, that there was actually like a thing between Bussey and Draco was because I told Vlad, I said Vlad. got to ask Boussey about this hook on this break. I know he heard that song. And I know, I know Vlad. Yeah. Vlad is very organized.

If that, if, if, like, and he also has interviewed Boussey five billion times. So it's like, I knew he was going to ask that question, but he never asked the question. So I knew that it was because it was like, Bucie didn't want to answer the question. Which then I kind of figured out over time, like, ah, Bousie was fucking with like A. Z. Chike and, like, different people that Draco didn't want anything to do with. and then Draco was kind of not feeling that, which was kind of interesting. So did Vlad ever ask?

Vlad never asked him. But I think I might have seen something with Busi over time where he ended up asking. You still be talking to Vlad? Oh, yeah, I talked about all the time. Okay, okay. Well, you ain't been on there in a few years, five, six years, something like that? You want to go back on? Maybe it's time.

I'll hit him up for you, yeah. Working on this project, man. I'm just trying to, I'm just trying to milk the game. I know I got a couple years left. You feel like you only got a couple? Yeah. I'm almost. I feel like you're such an icon.

like in your culture and community that you don't got to worry about all that. Yeah, as I always said, when I was in prison, when I come home, I just want to be the Asian like Jay-Z. Like not as rich as him, fucking 100 million type of shit, but just the status, you know what I'm saying? Of course I want that money too, but just status, like, you know, like when they bring up Asian rap, if it ever take off, they have to mention me.

I just feel like even when you're 55 years old, that they're going to talk about you, like you broke the game open for a lot of people who look like you. Right, right. You know, like that's never going to go away. Right, right, right. It's already stamped. I manifested it low-key because I was in prison thinking about that shit.

Yeah. Yeah. No, 100%. Where are you at with a Chinameg? We cool. You cool? Yeah, I mean, he DM me. All like, you know, I'm not buddy-buddy with him, but he DM me.

He was like, what's up, man? You ain't fucking me no more? Because I guess I, you know how dudes get when they DM you, and you don't reply. like right away right they get i know you deal with that show yeah so he kind of dealt with that and i mean deal with that he kind of told me like you're not with me on the more i'm like no it ain't that i got so much shit going on bro like you know i just lost the homie and getting all this other shit he's all right he's like get your ass in the gym bro that's what he said yeah that's what he said yeah yeah oh oh because i gain weight you can't tell oh yeah yeah i guess but i mean

i'm just surprised that he would take uh take notice of that's all he said i don't know what But he got going, he's like OT and shit like that. Yeah, he's a Nigeria or something. I was your stide as well. Oh, not great for sure. Yeah, I know y'all had some. We never had issues until he decided that he wanted to cloud chase off trying to get between me and Kripmec. Yeah.

And then he's just running around trying to act tough. I don't know. He's out of the United States at this point. Right, right, right. It's easy to talk shit when you're in Nigeria, cloud chasing off a bunch of starving kids or whatever. Right, right. You know. But, okay.

So the other one I really want to ask you about is, a Swifty Blue. At one point, you guys got into it. He said he would beat your ass and said you got no squabbles. You ever seen his training video? I've seen a little bit of that, yeah. Oh, my God, that's the last dude. See, I only want to waste my breath on him.

I'm tired of his ass. Oh, really? That dude is like so soft. Behind closed doors, he'd be like trying to piece through it. Really? Yeah, I got like proof of receipts, tech messages. They were like, too, stupid young. Matter of fact, I ran into him in his third.

Yeah. When was that? We wasn't trying to save it in that. This was like a couple years ago. Yeah. See, I'm going to just tell you, fucking, Adam. Okay. Yeah, let's get this content going.

Get it cleared. No, I ran to him in the studio. He came with his boy. I was doing a song with a Florence dude. And then my engineer, and they didn't know that we beefed, because our beefs is unknown, me and Swiftie. But it goes deeper, you know, bloodshed. Anyways, he walks in with his homie.

I'm with eight homies. And I'm over here recording, having a good time. I turn around. said, oh, okay, I put on my sweater, so I said, it's that time, you know. You know, one of my homies went doing bad, and I'm just like, nah, dude, look at all these music people here, there's cameras here and shit like that, like, no. But anyways, he was like, look, young, I know our hoods got some inner, you know, some beef from the past, but like, like, let's make some money together.

Let's put that shit together. How the fuck I'm going to make money with you? If I do a song with you, that shit ain't going to go nowhere. But I didn't say that, but in my head I was thinking that. And then he tried to shake my hand. He tried to shake my ass, that, I think I don't f*** with Yo, Kine. And when I said, Yo, Kine, I don't mean meskin, just his hood, you know, specifically. And then, you know, he'd be on the internet popping it, but that dude, that dude, he the most weeniest dude in L.A., one of them.

For real. That top ones. I beat the brakes all good. And on top of that, like, he just dropped the dis dis dis and all the Mexican rappers. Oh, for real? Yeah. He ain't going to handle that smoke. Yeah.

He better go worry about that before he worry about the Cambodia towns. Shit. Yeah. You know, like, I kind of got a window. into like what got Swifty Blue into the position he's in now because I always been cool with him. I always treated him with respect. And then he had

a video clip come out where he basically was at a gas station and this young Edgar punked him out and basically like was talking about the shit to him and then Swiftie got in his car and drove away. And so then like the next day Swiftie allegedly we don't know if this is exactly how went down, but he allegedly

went to the kids high school looking for him. And so then that clip, the clip comes out of him getting arrested at the high school. now oh shit that's recently oh yeah yeah yeah you know like how it is on a podcast like you're reacting to what's in the news yeah that's all that was in the news was this story and it sounded burnt out

as fuck like he got mad at you that's a hilarious concept to be like 30 years old and going to high school to fight someone yeah he says that's not true and that's not actually how I went down and he lives over there and like he I don't know like you live over there where you're just walking by the school I don't know it sounds kind of crazy

he going to school when they get out he's just walking by but either way like he got so mad at us talking about that story. Like when all he had to do was say, yo, Adam, I'm going to come on the show or I'm going to call into the show and just let me say my piece about how that's not what happened. But instead he has to jump off the deep end and now he's doing podcasts with Comparator talking about me and all this crazy shit.

He's trying to take it there. But I now understand how he falls out with everybody because it's a situation where you've been fucking with me for like five, six years. You didn't have to make it like that, but he did. And now it's like, I mean, I'm not going to hold the grudge because it ain't that personal. so if he wants to be cool again, like, whatever. I don't for him.

But now I understand why, like, when I was thinking about making, I was thinking about making him a host on no jumper, and he's basically, like, people, people really telling me, like, you got to get me over it again. People tell him like, Adam, don't. Like, he's not trustworthy. You don't get a lot of shit, Adam. And now I'm like, okay.

You don't get me over here. And you don't want to play with the wrong Mexican, you know? Because it's like, if you fuck with the wrong Mexican, all the other Mexicans are really not going to fuck with it. So, he didn't dissing people. People were, I know he ain't gonna stand on that shit. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

Yeah, he got slapped by the homie King Liljee. Oh, for real? You know, when I heard. Yeah. No, I want to slap him too. I can't wait. At one point somebody told me like, they're like, man, let's stop talking about it.

If you were making him a no jumper host, then there's certain people who are going to treat you like you're exactly the same as him. Like, it's that bad with Swippman. And I'm like, okay, that is a level that I'm not really trying to get to, you know, yeah. I don't want to give shit up with him. So what? You want to be a podcaster? What's going on?

No, I don't want to be a podcaster. I just feel like, I don't know. I feel like me and you do good numbers and shit. That's true, yeah. We've got to bring in the Asian audience, too. More, I feel like, you know, we've got to reach out to that audience as well. Yeah, for sure. Do you resent being called Asian as opposed to Cambodian?

It feels like Asian is such an oversimplification if you know how many different types of Asian people are all over the world. Yeah, no, I'm Asian boys. I'm not from Cambodia boys. Right. Is that thing? Is there a Cambodia boys as well? No, no. No, okay.

Yeah. All right. Definitely. Let's talk about some other shit, Adam. Yeah, well, let's talk about some music shit. What about Mr. Criminal said? You stole the song.

That's music. Mr. Criminal said you stole the song. That's the last one I got on here. I'm going to close the phone. Look, I'm done with my message. He had that up the sleeve. Man, you know, it's crazy. I've seen someone, gang of people sent me that in my DM.

They said, said you stole Mando. Yeah. Oh, that song. That shit is crazy. Right. I never heard one until this day. I had never.

Hey, this shit hilarious, bro. I never heard one Mr. Criminal song in my life, bro. I never bumped that shit, bro. Like, ever. Like, who the fuck is going to turn him on? Right. Like, you feel me?

So for him to say that, I felt like he was just cloud chasing. The only sign I heard of his, Torto. Huh? You got a song about eating tortas. I don't know nothing about Mr. Criminal. I just know how he looked.

He's skinny, bowhead with glasses. I should. I don't know anything about him. So for him to say I stole Mando, are you serious? Then people sent me the link and I was reading the comments and shit like that. A couple of comments.

People are like, how do you say he stole? Because he tried to put his song and my song. That's just way too different shit, really? Yeah. All I know is that a year or two ago, it seemed like everybody f*** with them

and now everybody makes it clear they don't. Who the fuck is everybody? Even the Mexicans in my city, though. Mexican people that I know, like L.A. Icon and these types of dudes, they seem like they thought he was cool a year or two ago. And now they don't know. Pony before I listen to that, nigga. Yeah.

Yeah, I think his position in the game has changed a little bit over the last couple of years. He might be a man of God now. Hopefully. Yeah, he need that. Yeah. John Matthews, 316. Yeah. Oh, Stone Cold.

Austin, 316. Steve Austin. No, but man. The only reason why I'm talking my shit on here is because these dudes talk they shit. Yeah. So I'm popping my shit. That's good.

It is what it is. It's good. What, like, your next project, what direction you feel like you're going with it? What's going to change it up? Just like leveling up, bro, just enhancing the sound. Mastering the craft.

Mastering the craft, you know, helping my young homie and shit, you know. I want him to speak too because, you know, Tell them who you is and shit. Yeah, you already know, A.B. Blue. Yeah. Bro, he's taking over. For sure.

It's my young thing right here. He loading up, though. It takes some turn, though. Mm. That's it. Definitely. Take them out, though, Adam. For sure.

What is he taught you about, you know, the music game in particular? And one thing is patience. Like, you always remind me that. It don't come automatically. Yeah, for real. People get lucky with that. Yeah, hell, yeah. It does.

It's going to take some time because, like, you know, it ain't going to have an old. overnight success unless you fucking Justin Bieber or something. Okay, but is it tempting to jump out the window and do a bunch of crazy viral shit because you know that'll get more attention for you, even though it might fuck up your legitimacy in the long run? That's not my character. Yeah, no.

Yeah, he don't get out like that. Like, he's real humble, mellow, young dudes, you know what I'm saying? And I f*** with people like that because that's my, that's my character. Before we put you, like, on officials, I want to know your character and shit like that, you know, like how you are. because we want assets, we want no liabilities. You know, because there's a lot of dudes from the hood, too, that got talent, but, like, liability.

What if I invest in you? And then, boom, next to know, you're in a, in prison. Yeah. I feel like the universe has saved me a lot of money many times because I'll be thinking about signing somebody, and then they'll get booked for a crazy-ass case, and I'll be like, okay.

I dodged the bullet. I'm glad that I didn't go for that one, yeah. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. shit so what uh what do we got to look forward to what's the next shit that's coming uh i'm working on the album right now called welcome to cambodia town i got my boy on it ologi d baby um rado and yeah

it's gonna drop i don't know when probably like january i'm aiming for january we got rolling loud thailand november coming out you're going i'm saying yeah i'm on the lineup same day as weezy you know that's crazy no wayne is a goat to me so It's going to be cool. Rolling Loud Thailand. I can't even imagine what that's going to be like. Yeah, this is going to be lit for sure.

Stay tuned to not. Yeah. I just seen a little pump out there. You got tricked by some lady boys. No, I really tricked, but he's seen him and, like,

thought there were girls and then he figured it out, yeah. We know, we got people out there, you know, from our heads, so we do.

They know better. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I went to Bangkok when I was 19, and for sure, I got tricked visually many times. I was just looking at something

and then like 30 seconds later Why you don't come out Adam why would you come to Rolling Loud Thailand You know all the big You know they got big shit going Okay that's not the worst idea Because from my experience

Like the best content I ever got at the festival Is when I went to London And it was like There weren't that many American rappers Backstage and shit But I got like Juice World Young Thug

Not PoloG But uh Oh I think I seen that Trippy Ray You got future and shit I was around future I was around future Didn't seem like he was super

interested in meeting me at that time. But, um, you know, I got a ton of crazy content basically because it's in another country. There's not that much media and shit. Right. Thailand? I mean, really, there's not going to be a lot of media to do. So maybe that is a smart idea, although they're gentrifying the fuck out of that shit, though. They got a cookie store over there. Oh, really? That's just becoming, you know, like one of the biggest tourist places. Because I've always been told that is that if things aren't going that good for you in America, you could always just go to a different nation and figure some shit out. Dude, that's basketball.

Well, okay. Basketball. For sure. But all right, my dad had a friend when I was a kid. And so he's like 50. His wife leaves him or they did divorce, whatever. His job, like, it made sense for him to move to China. All of a sudden, he got hell of hoes in China.

And I'm like, I'm a kid. I'm like 10, like not really understanding. And I'm like, oh, shit, this dude. Like, he's a passport bro before passport bros was a thing. And I'm just realizing like, oh, this dude ain't shit in America. But he moves out to China. You got some money. He's kind of tall.

Boom. He's in the game. I don't know. I don't know. I think they like white boys out there. Thailand and shit. I think they're like, we ever got some bread.

Man. I would never trust a Thai fucking prostitute out there, man. It's slippery as. I've been around the type of woman out there before. And I was just like realize, because I was the youngest, I'm like 19 around these like Thai prostitutes

and just realizing like, oh, y'all are way grimier than any bitch I ever dead now here. For my whole life. Yeah. Figg ain't got nothing on them. Well, yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, if you hit up fig, you'll probably find similar types of chicks.

But, um, all right, anything else you want to shout out? Anything we need to know about? No, I just free Rotto. My boy A.B. Blue over here. Officials of the label. The album coming out, Polo G on their D, baby. Rotto, A.B. Blue, let's go. Right.

For show, man. Hey, send me a beat. You want to do a song again? I'm really down. Come on. you, bro. Let's go. Let's go. Shit. All right. All right. All right.

I like it. Stupid young. Appreciate you. The whole officials. Aficials. Can I just say it like aficial? I got to say it like that. A.B. Blue. A.B. Blue. Why you got upside down gun on the chain? That's our logo. You see this thing right here.

You got an extent. Oh, shit. See? All right. The other side can't do that. They too broke. I'm going to just like, I don't know about that what that means. Okay. Sure. Let's close. I appreciate you guys.

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