No Jumper - Verde Babii on Stockton, Growing up with EBK Jaybo & More!

Episode Date: June 24, 2024

Verde Babii his upbringing, responds to fans calling him a Slo-be clone, and more! ----- Get the latest news & videos http://nojumper.com CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://shop.nojumper.com/ NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4z4yCTj... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22     / adam22     / adam22   adam22bro on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's your boy, Almighty man, and we back with another one on no jumper. Y'all know what we do, feel'em. You already know what I do, man. I bring through California artists through here, you feel me. That's what I do, frill, frill. So now I got another one for real, man. Introduce yourself to the people, bro. My mom, my man, big two-focke in California. Yeah, you feel me, all right.

I'm coming from Stockton, bro. You feel me, all right? Let's get right into it, bro. Tell me about your early life, where you from. You know, I'm saying, like, what you do? Tell the people. Let them know. I'm from Stockton, California, the North Side of Stockton, you feel me? What you want to say?

Like, how I grew up? Yeah, like early life, you know what I'm saying? Like, how was your old life? I knew you got pops, mom, siblings. My pops died back when I was probably like two, you know? My mom's from out south. He from 9-year. My mom's from 9-year, but I got moved to out north, you know.

So that's how that went. But growing up, school, single mom, you feel me? she did everything her you feel me possible what she could do for a nigga you feel me I felt like I grew up cool I'd say you feel like a little young pops affected you I say it affected me for sure

like I remember times like the first time it really affected me I probably was in like elementary school you feel me and like just seeing like the kids getting picked up by their mama and their dads you feel me before then I didn't really you feel me it didn't really affect my aunt uncles and you feel me

man figure out of my kids and you feel me figures around and acted like my dad's you feel me but that's the only time it really affected me when I just look like you feel me I asked moms like where my pops sat type of shit you can't me that's the only time probably like really hit me and affected me what age you feel like that was

elementary shit I probably say I was probably like six pretty early you were starting to catch on like all right just why I got no pops yeah my mom for sure had me heller hely gamed up as a you feel me like little nigger little nigga like was having full grown like, grown man conversations with me at like five, six, you know me.

So it's like that's probably about the time where, you feel, me, I start to know this shit, like I ain't got no pops, you feel me. Okay, okay. You got that, you feel me? You got siblings? No, I ain't got no siblings. And you're the only kid? Yeah.

How was that growing up in the house? Only kid? Was it only? Yeah, it was lonely sometimes. Like when moms had to go to work or you can't go do what she had to do, you feel me? I'm to the house, to the neck, you feel me? I'm by myself cooking my own little shit.

That's what I'm saying. Like, I was advanced, you feel like from my age, you feel me? And you wish you had siblings when he was that age? Yeah, I'm not going to lie, for sure. I still be wishing I got sickness to this day. Like, man, like, damn, why can I have a brother or something, you see me? Okay, so what was you doing early on at that age? Like, what was you went to growing up?

Like, if you knew, it was music, sports, what you was on, hell early? I for sure was in the music. I thought I was going to be like a football player, you know? He was on your football shit. Yeah, a football player, you, you feel me? But other than that, I knew music, you, you feel me, It was either them two things. And once I found out very, you feel me, early, it wasn't going to really be football, you see me?

When I broke it down, you know what I really make it from how, you feel me? I felt like I had a better chance rapping, you know what? I always felt like I could rap, you, feel me, but. What moment you felt like he wasn't going to make it? Like, you remember, like, as far as, like, football, like this early or like? But, like, all right, I used to be a little, like, short, stocky, chubby, you feel me? So, but mind you, I could play football like a man, you feel me? I'm getting put on defensive tackle and shit

When I'm really supposed to beat the Y receiver You're trying to build some shit And they got you on defense If I was probably like how I am My skinny me now You fit me back then Oh yeah they would have You fit me through me out there

But you know I was a little short stocking You know what I'm playing defensive tackle and shit But then other than that Nick when I got to high school You feel me I ain't play a lick of high school football You feel me Grades and shit You feel me

So I never really actually When I did slim down And you feel me to get to that size I didn't really get a chance So you feel me even showcase what I have for real Cause I get my grades and shit I never even got to play on the football team So you would just on like some pop Warner type shit growing up

You're feeling by the time high school was over with Yeah my mom Okay okay so nigga when you get in the high school Or shit we can go a little before nigga What age do you feel like you start getting into the streets Um Age I say I'm getting in the streets But I feel like I ain't gonna sit here and just

I'm just being in the streets You know I'm just you know But nigga like as a like we I'll say I was in the streets without even knowing I was in the streets you feel me because I feel like that's how the transition happened like it was from me being outside with the hummies you feel me one day you over there being during ditching or throwing rocks at niggas houses and windows and shit a little bad shit like that and then you trying next minute kick down somebody dope you feel me right you do a robbery or something

you feel like I feel like that's how it was so they're probably like like young nigga like I want to say it niggas been like outside for the longest, but when I actually, like, say I could, like, did some gangster shit or did some street activity, I probably was about, like, 14. That's when I robbed my first house. So what was Stockton like around that time?

Stockton was cool. Like, yeah, Stockton was cool for me. I grew up with a lot of, like, Cambodians. You grew up on outside of Stockton? Yeah, I'm not in North. You feel me? So, you feel me?

I'm by already, you feel me? Fice Creek over there, you know what I used to be hanging at. My cousins in the shit state in Fines Creek or, you feel me, I go outside my grandma's house to go around the corner of the little codiac, Cambodians in the court, you know what I mean? So it was cool, it was, you know what I used to like I wouldn't just say, we was hell about.

We used to play sports, nigga outside, football, baseball, the tennis ball, you feel me? All the types of shit, you feel me? Boom. Nothing crazy, just regularly, just, just coolly, you feel me? Yeah, I wouldn't say like, I'd say this generation, bro, like, Dave, what would you call it? Like, iPad,

kids, you feel me? Like... Niggas do not be outside, just be in the house in front of that screen. Yeah, like... We had a little bit of both. We had a little bit of both, you know, yeah, but you feel me? Yeah, exactly, we had a little bit of both, you, feel me?

And then, like, how my parents was, and they were, like, she didn't want you in her face on a day, then you feel to go outside. You feel to go outside. You feel to go outside, you fin to go play, you, so I don't remember, that's how that was. So once you start getting in a high school, like, what made you start getting into the rap?

That's later on their life for you, like, what age you start getting to that shit? I've been rapping I remember my first song I ever recorded Like in the real studio J-bo pops He became J-BK J-Boh His pops took me

He had a studio called Oro Studios Downtown and Stockton He took me He took me here and I was probably like seven You feel me Speak on your relationship with the J-bo For the people who don't know That's my cousin

You feel me That's folks You see me My one more free brother No cat for you can't We have that nigga over here I remember that nigger daddy basically he took me to the studio you feel me and like showed me how to rap like Because I'm in there and I know what to do like I remember what exactly what he did nigger

I don't know how he did it but he put his self He wrote the lyrics down from what I want to say you feel me I didn't wrote the whole shit myself but he touched it up for me All right say this don't say that Who woo woo woo perfected it I'm trying to rap it though I didn't know how to rap it He put his self in the headphones so I could hear him rapping it in my ears From outside the booth or some shit like that Boo, you know. I ain't never seen nothing like it to this day. But he was in my ear, you feel me? So I can hear the, you feel me.

So I'm basically like just tracing over his voice. Okay. So I did it like that. You feel me? He showed me how I do ad libs. You feel me like basically like all the bare necessities you need to, you feel me. What age was this you said? Seven. Okay. Young, yeah. Yeah, my mama. That nigga used to pick me up, put me in music videos like J-Bop pop. Like you go look at some of J-Bop's videos and shit. I'm in the music videos and shit. But yeah, I didn't think it showed me that.

my pops and J-Bo pops was hella close. Okay. They from same hood, you feel me? They used to rap together and shit. So my dad rap, you feel me, his pops was, you feel me, with the influence that he had, because that nigga was big in Stockton, you feel me? Speak on that a little bit.

That nigga, Daddy was big and so I don't know if nobody, like, you feel me, really got, nigga, his flowers, but Rory was, was big and Stockton, bro, like, for show and Stockton, Stoughton famous, for sure. Everybody knew who his pops was, you feel me? That's crazy. Clean, whips, jewelry, you me popping bottles like he had Stockton on i forgot what it was i think it was um black bottles

you see how j-bo did the black bottle uh that's really like a tribute to his pops because that's what his pops used to drink and shit okay he real real trinsetter for real like you feel me like so what made you be from your side of town instead of that one that's what everybody be asked me like but you feel me like i just want some respectful with shit i'd be like bro i didn't grow up out there you feel me like now it'd be different if my grandma stayed outside My grandma stayed outside. My grandma stayed out of north. That's where I really was, you feel me.

I was with my grandma. Like you said, like who I grew up with, I was with my mom, my grandma, you feel me, my uncle in the house out north, you, see me? So my grandma did stand on and gill, you feel me? That's what my mama and my daddy and how they met and shit. But I end up getting moved, you feel me, when pops, you see me, shit happened, pops, we got moved to out north, you feel me? And I just felt like I ain't grow up out there, you feel me?

I was always out south, you feel me? I was like, my mom, you take me out there, you feel me? I'm out there, you feel me. But, like, out there every day, like, you lived there, you feel me? I just felt like it was more respectable than, you feel me? Right, be from your, sorry, where you grew up at type of shit. So, once he take you to the studio, you feel me, teach you how to rap, like, from that moment on, do you feel like you feel like you feel like you feel like you feel

or you still trying to figure it out later type shit, you know what I'm trying to figure it out? I wasn't trying to, I wasn't trying to rap, you feel me? I wasn't trying to rap because, like, what they say, they were like, you're your best criticism, like, you feel me? You your biggest critic? You feel you, you feel me? so I always be like on something like

like with the football like I thought I could have did it if I would have got my grades up you can me really put some shit behind it but I'm so quick to me bro I just figure something else out you feel me but that's how I felt like you wasn't good enough at that age yeah I wasn't good enough I was so I'm good enough I was hard for my age you feel me but like I felt like I came out probably around the right time you feel me because where I could

sit back that matter too perfect my yeah perfect my craft you feel me so I ain't just come out hella booty, you know what I'm gonna like, okay, you feel me, I'm for show better, but at that point in time you feel me, it's not like, oh, you was just trash and then you, you feel me, I feel like I got time to perfect a little bit before I, you feel me? Okay, okay, so when did you feel like, so you dropped your first song around like what age do you feel like I'm about to start taking it a little serious or like

what influenced you to start taking a little serious? Like around that time, around what time? I probably, it was probably like 15, 6,000, You feel me? My first song that I really recorded, like, in the studio, I was really recording the garage for real. My first, like, actual studio session was in the garage, somebody house, you know what I'm a nigga Tommy, rest in peace. The homie, I went to the homie house, you feel me?

And he rapped me a verse from some shit. Minds you, 15, 16. He wrapped me a verse probably from when I was probably, like, 14, 13, you feel me? But rap, them out of my life fluently through the whole thing. Like, I'm saying, one of yours type shit. One of mine. My, my, my, my buddy been in jail about two years.

Ness, Rich, you know me? He was in jail about two years, you know. So it's like, we knew each other, but we ain't really, you know. I was gonna ask you about that too. Like, how did your relationship start, too? Well, he was in jail, you feel me? Like, we was, you know how you got a clique, you feel me? You got hell of niggas in the clique, you feel me?

You feel me? Y'all partners, but you got your day one partner. Right. It wasn't like that with me and Rich out first, you from? It's just like, he was in the clique, you feel? If I seen, you feel, you feel? until he got out of jail. So he got out of jail.

You hear me, I'm chilling out that that nigga house. He rap me the verse. I got to f*** you. Remember. You know my sister? Yeah, like, you feel me? But you can rap, who, woo, who, who, feel me? Build my confidence of a little bit.

I can rap too. Everybody said they can rap. You mean, woo, woo, but I can really rap. Run upstairs, bro. Go get a little jail notebook. You get me? Come back, flipping through the pages. You find one.

Tripping. You feel me? Tripping. You got something for show. Like, right here between just me and you, I don't fuck everybody else. But I know, like, between me and you, we for show could do something with this. At this point, is it already a Stockton scene or it's just like, you know what I'm saying,

there's nothing yet, or is niggas already rapping from the city? Niggas is already rapping from the city. Okay, it's already lit. Yeah, niggas already rapping from the city for show. Niggas was, I mean, the first niggas that really came out, I say from Stockton, for real. It's like, Haiti baby. NB. NB. NB.K came, like, a little bit after. Right.

They been, their niggas been rapping. They've been rapping. But, like, what I'm saying, when the niggas start to. Getting pop. Blow up you feel me they came a little after you feel me so it's around this time You feel me we got some some comp up there for show these niggins you know that's You know it's starting to be a little a little light on the city they like how it is now but it's some light It's some light okay I'm like bow the hum me on ankle so I'm like niggie I'm finna

Rich rich Get the phone bro like this here and you're gonna record your verse on my phone on the little you shit I'm gonna take it to the studio He's gonna do something to it we made made a song on some little funny shit, you feel me? But niggas was like, lightweight feeling it, you feel me? Y'all playing, but niggins is starting to fuck with it. But this one I say, it really got serious.

My nigga Blicky. My nigga, uh, hey, Bliky, too, phone. Shout out my nigga Bliky. He found me and Rich, like, out of young age, you know what? Because he was first shot of jail, you feel me, too. We tapped in with Blicky, bro, and Bliky really showed us the real,

like I said, we was recording in the garage, you know, he showed us, okay, nigga, this is the studio. he's the cameraman. You feel me? He was paying for shit, you feel me? All the type of shit. Like, he was leading away for us for it, you know?

So, boom, that's when we go to the studio and really, like, record our first actual song in the studio with some great production, you feel me, shoot the video to it. In my eyes, it damn thing? It went stupid, you feel? I told me, I only had, like, 10K in a couple days. What year was this?

This was, I don't remember the ear, for real, for real. But I think I was probably about, like, 15, 16. You feel me? So boom, we do that Because me and Rich Used to rap Like if you were real like Fan of me you'll know

Like before I came out It was ready baby We used to be a group called MGBLA So I got some old songs Under that shit So that's what it was With that

Damn I feel like when On some SoundCloud shit But you're just playing Yeah Like you're taking a serious Yeah I ain't really taking it

Really serious That was SoundCloud shit You know So boom Jaybo And them Like I said They started

To you feel me pick the pace up you feel me and I'm seeing it because yo he'd been telling pro come to the studio come around you can me but like I'm bush and I don't you see the bigger picture you feel me I'm gonna be honest and say I didn't see the bigger picture you feel right I seen it though like like I ain't gonna like I'm gonna like you see it for them but not for you yeah for me exactly like I said I'm my biggest critic you see it for y'all you feel me but me you feel me they they starting the role he you feel me he still got he rap rap nigga like like j-bo too nigga

At times, I didn't want to rap. You gotty, you know, we need new niggas. You feel me, to come from, you feel me? Right. Niggas are tired of hearing everybody. Everybody, and they heard everybody from Stockton. We need some new niggots from Stockton. You feel me?

A fact. I start rapping and shit, you feel me? That, like, inspired me too, like, seeing that they could do it. Like, okay, y'all, you feel me? You can do it, brother than I for sure could do it. You feel me? Start, I feel like taking this shit serious. That's when I change my name of Bertie, baby.

You feel me? And then, yeah, that's how you feel me? How did you get that name? You feel me? A hood, basically, you feel me. Type shit? Yeah. Okay, okay.

I'm about Reddy Park, you feel me? And I'm like, I'm like the baby, you feel me? Like, all the homies older than me, you feel me, so I just put it together like that. You feel ready, baby. Okay, okay. So speaking on, you already was speaking on, you know what I'm saying, like everybody around you, who you f*** with on some EBK shit, like, do you feel like the Stockton politics hold the city back and do you feel like it holds you back in any way?

I feel like it can And then it came at the same time You feel like I feel like The politics could do Good for you in the music Because the type of Generation we're in right now You can't mean

In the music They want to hear the politics You see me Sad as it is You feel me Like that's just what it is You know what it is You know what they like to hear what's going on

You feel me So you could You feel me Because like niggas Dish You definitely get a million views You know Damn'emmy

You put EBCC dish on your shit. You don't know, you, you feel me? That's a fact. Just because you you dish the hummies, you feel me.

So it could be good for you and it could be bad for you too because it's feel like, if you're in the city for real, you feel me? If you're really outside, for real, and you, you,

you feel me? So it could be good, bad for you. I really be driven off the police, you feel me? Stock the police. Department, bro. They be on niggas. They be on shit.

Niggas go to jail every day, bro, and stuff. If you check two or nine times, bro, you just gonna see, you feel me, you'd be, the jail. They're not the home with the jail. And Woodywood with you, you feel like. Do you feel like

the music is making that shit worse? Yeah, hell yeah. Yeah. I don't want to see you. I want to see that boy riding around, no, Rose, race. No, you feel me? I want to see us with no VVs and our mouth, you feel me, you feel me? You feel me? And if they do want to see you with it, they want you to get your shit and get the fuck on. That's a, that's funny that you said. That's another thing I was going to ask.

Yeah, they want you. Do you feel like you need to move out? Like, or like, do you feel like when you blow up, you should move out or should you stay or like do you feel like that's a fight that you got you know what I'm saying I've been gone bro before I even felt like the buzz was coming I left you feel me like I got here all the hummies gone you feel me we still around but the hummies got houses and shit bro we got bills

we got you feel me me he's got real responsibility you're like but yeah if you were something bro yeah don't stay in your city bro like I used to watch little old like like little snoop and shit like you feel like like shit like that like damn he could have been something, but he was in the city and niggas, then, you feel me? Rest and peace, love you, bro. I felt like like brothers should have moved a little bit

sooner than, you feel me? Mm-hmm. But I feel like that. If you were something, bro, get the, bro, don't stay there. For what? Who you got something to prove to, you, feel me? Right. Because most of the time, the suckers is broke anyway, you feel me? You feel me? I ain't got what you got. They end of position you in.

You see me? They want you to stay there so they can get a chance to grab your and take everything that you work from from you. You, you, you know? That's a fact. Now, speaking of Sloby, can you speak on your relationship with bro? Like, how y'all met what age that was? You know what I'm saying? Bro, I met Sloby, like, for real first time in real life, like in the flesh.

I was at a show in Fresno. Shout out to Honey. Sean Neff, we'll be putting the shows and shit together from Fresno. He had basically, like, letting me open up for, bro. You feel me? But, you feel me? We did the opening up and shit. You feel me?

he ended up tapping in with me later you feel me like send me on number or whatever he hit me on some like he know my pops and you feel me I was just for the sake because he older huh? Yeah he older you feel me so he's like he know my pops my pops from her you feel me like you can ask

niggas my pops was the boyfriend that you feel me so he like you feel me get my pops his flowers and shit basically saying like niggas good you feel me let's work just do a song and you feel me but we just ain't never get around to it I was supposed to he was supposed to do a show

Frisco we were supposed to open up for him and Frisco He ain't never get to do the show though How you feel about speaking on, bro Man rest of the peace to him How do you feel about people calling you like a slow bicon Or being in the comment saying you sound like bro Like what you got to say to him

I say this same shit every time bro All right boom So if you go to Baton Rouge and you go Listen to Baton Rouge you're going to say everybody Young Boy Club Right If I come down here and I hear some L.A. music I'm going to say

everybody at Almighty Suspect alone. Right. You feel me? Because I used listening to you, bro, like in middle school, you were like, you was a boy, you feel me?

You're looking. I appreciate that, you still a boy, you feel me? But a nigga, I'm my mama like, yo music, you feel me. Nick, you just slap you.

On God. I'm God. I'm going to everything. So, nigga, it's like, I feel like. Regional shit. The sound come with it.

Yeah, might have a little similarities or something. You feel me? I don't think I sound like them. Right. I'm just put that out.

I don't feel like when you from somewhere You might say everybody sound like yellow bezy or something. You know what I'm right, right, right. You know what? Facts. So once you start dropping, do it like immediately get some traction, do it take time? Like, you know what I'm saying?

It's the thing. Like, niggas you even be telling me, like, jock and then be telling me like, bro, like, we was rapping for a little minute before the pace picked up. I felt like I jumped in it at the right time when they had the ball rolling already. Right. So, nigga, I damn got benefits from it, you feel? It didn't take me that long to see like, okay, this shit, damn, working you feel me oh that's a fact like 10 20 000 views 30 30 000 views you

me like my shit didn't take like that long to to pick up you feel me especially in stockton nah i was stocked in rarrow super quick like as soon as i did a song you see me like they was waiting on me to make a song or something you feel me me that should happen overnight type shit not not really overnight you feel me because nigga it took time i wouldn't just say oh i was just very baby you feel me like that because nigga it for show took some time i ain't really start seeing no real progress in this shit so I got my big mama, you feel me? And when I did move from Stockton, that's what I'm saying.

What did you left? I left, you feel me, I start biting down, okay, I'm shooting these videos, let me, you feel me, put these songs out, drop these albums, you feel me, do what I gotta do, you know what I mean? Then I start seeing shit, you feel me? That's when I have songs like LMA or songs like, a player in you, you, you know?

Then I was picking up, I'm like, okay, you know, then I seen, nigga, first distro kid check, you feel me? Like, I felt like God, niggas, line my life up kind of like but I'd really be going on faith like sometimes I'm speaking with her you feel me so boom

my babe mama I'm out there you feel me moving and shit we feel that baby you feel me so I'm trying to do a little you can me man shit I'm trying to move us you see me you feel me you feel me I really don't have nothing for real you just trying to figure it out but I ain't really got nothing

you feel me I swear to God it seemed like soon as I needed the game nigga stroke kid check first came, you know, two bands or something the fuck? The fuck? I get juice,

Nicky, I'm like, what, I'm like, what, I'm like, what, the fuck?

Off talking. But then again, I, you feel me, I had to do some little growing up because, nigga at first,

when you get that money, you want to go. Spend it on you. $600, babe, you feel me, I have to really

sit back in my baby, mama, she ain't selfish, you feel me? She ain't, she ain't going, you know,

she, she, she, she, she, she, I'll go spend $600 on the Bay Puddy. I wore one time. You feel me? And now I'm sitting back, like... Regretting that shit, low-key.

Like, the fuck, I do some dumb-ass shit. Like, all right, let me stop playing with my money and really do some shit that really matter with my money, you feel me? You got to blow to know. My mama. But other than that, nia... Yeah, I feel like when I move with her, you feel like, that's when the ball really picked up, you feel me?

Speaking of you, you feel me, having Bay, mama, kids and shit like that, How do you balance fatherhood? What's your regular, you know what I'm saying, rap life height? How do you balance the two? My mama, bro. My mama, bro. My mama, bro.

I love my mama, bro. I call my mama, bro. Mom, I gotta go to push out of lay. Like, right now, I gotta push outlay. I gotta go. All right money in them, bro. I got to get the kids. You know what?

You get me? Like, I call on her for show for anything, bro. I feel like that's hot. Big help for you. Yeah, like that my mom and my big mom, but they big helps, bro. we gonna figure some shit out you feel me we ain't just gonna you feel me we gonna figure something out you feel right so balancing bro i feel like balancing cool bro i got a home studio you feel me i be

nicking sit on my lap while i'm recording you feel me like i'm gonna make a way for it for sure mhm mhm speaking of that do you feel like uh your personality reflect in your music and if so like what you mean like like do how you is do you feel like like it's showing your music and how? Yeah, because I ain't afraid to put my real self in my music, you feel me? It'd be niggins that be gangster all the time or pimping all the time

or whatever you're doing all the time. You're not doing that all the time, bro. You got feelings, bro. You feel me, you feel some type of way about some shit. Whatever I'm feeling, bro, I feel like, if I'm mad, you're going to hear it in that song. You're going to have a nigga tripping. He's mad.

He's talking about somebody. I'm sad. you're gonna, he probably in his feelings or something. Or I'm on some toxic shit or you gonna, you feel me? I feel like that make the best music, bro, just putting who you is every day in your music, you feel me? Instead of trying to create an image and wrap off an image, that's not you for real, you feel me?

Like, you might as well just be yourself. Whatever happens in that day, I don't care if you go to the corner store, you ain't this shit with pumped up gas on the car, you know? Put that in the song. You can make it sound raw, you feel me? Into the stove, through 91 and the fore. Like, talk about that shit. you feel me that's all you gotta do you feel me like I feel like that's yeah when you put your

personality in your music you feel me yeah and it make it more believable you feel me because that's one thing about like I feel like selling your image you got to sell your image on people you feel me that's a fact it's not just about the music yeah the motherfucker ain't gonna believe you if they don't if they don't believe you see me so you feel me you I feel like putting your real self in your music bro yeah it's gonna be some motherfuckers I probably think you lying or you see me but everybody not gonna believe you everybody not gonna believe but you're gonna you gonna reach more of a bigger audience for show putting your real self in a minute I feel like that's a fact how do you uh describe your sound in what what do you

feel like help you develop that motherfucker because I see everybody be talking about in the comments I they're still dropping this sample shit when a nick gonna change the same shit but if niggas pay attention bro you used to be more on some street shit then you start fucking with the female type shit if niggas no bro I dropped the album called versatile it's not even I'm like an EP before I really you feel me on the EP I dropped like five songs I did a Detroit beat I did like a slow sample shit I did the gangster shit like basically showing I can do everything you right that's why I named it versatile from that EP I seen which what they wanted more you see me all right they they they like gangster verde you see me but they might want this very more

you know, niggies that be in the comments that be, oh, they either don't rap, never had a song, never, you feel me? So I don't really trip off that because, nigga, sometimes I do, you feel me? I'm going to lie. I'll see a thousand, nigger, fire emoji, fire emoji, far emoji, far emoji, that one hate-nast nigga made me mad, you feel me? But, no, bro. Like, yeah, what was the question?

Yeah. I did it, yeah. No, you was good, but the question was, fuck, what was the question? Nick, I said, how do you describe your sound and what help you, you know what I'm saying? Develop that motherfucker. So, like, what I describe my sound is I say, like, everybody, well, niggas describe my sound for me, you feel me? I feel like that's something, that's something big too. Like, don't try to put a stamp on something.

Like, what you good at? What you're good at and let the people decide, you hear me? Right. People think I make toxic music, you feel me? I'm a toxic ass nigger I'm like I ain't toxic bro You feel me

I just I ain't gonna lie You know me You know I'm gonna get in that In that song In that stew over there and lying Knowing you over there Unhappy with that girl

And she ain't really fucking with you for real Instead of actually You feel me Putting some real shit Cause niggas Bro bro I'm getting too with my babe mama Or I'm tripping

Or I'm trying to get back cool With my babe mama Or you feel me I'm in the car With the female you feel me or even the females bro, that's who I do it for, for real.

I do, I feel like I make female music, you feel me? Women and children are the one who are gonna support. Exactly. Nickas follow what bitches like. So. I feel like that type of music I make

which like made my sound I feel like my mom and like just the older generation I had around me that was playing shit like like Messi Marv or just like old schools and R&B.

I would say in my own eyes I'm a R&B hip hop artist. You feel me? I'm gonna mix like Jaru you feel me Jaru talking about all gang shit

he got the deep raspy voice and shit But he'd do it for the females You feel me? I feel like that's the type of category You'll have to put me in like a Jaru You feel me like I'm going And the thing is bro

Niggas just be, Knicks just be doing samples You feel me Right Niggas be having the producers Send them samples And they don't even know What simple it is

That's a fact I'm calling a producer Bro you know Wooty who's song by Nick Marvin Gay Do that And then they'd be called producer Do this part

And then Make it sound like this You feel me bro, shout out my nigga Echo, bro, shout out my nigga, tell you, bro. They know, bro, shout out my nigga, and Rilla, too. They know I will quick, nigginshots and shit. Here, do this, right here. I need a sample right now.

I'm gonna do it. You feel me? Then I base off, like, like, off the song. I really listen to the song. You feel me? I go listen to the original song, you, see what I'm not fin of just, you feel me, I got to listen to it. See how you came on it.

All right, because you really, do something different. You really ain't going to do nothing better than the original, you see me? So it's hard to. It's hard to. You feel me? It's very hard to do something Real hard.

Like, to do better than the original. But if you critique it and you take game from it and you feel me, you really study it, you could damn near make something close,

you see me? For sure. For sure. So I feel like, niggas just going back listening to the songs, you feel me, okay, boom,

or it's already songs that I didn't already, you feel, me, I'm going to go back and do that song that my mom used to play when I was... Speaking of that,

what's some of your biggest musical influences growing up you feel like? Nessie mom. For sure. Messy Marr with Hardest fuck I want to say

Niggas be sleep on mess, bro, because all the shit he got going on Yeah, he got all going on But that nigga really could rap, bro,

he really, you feel like, I feel like, that's type of, like, I feel like, I feel like, that's type of,

that he was talking about, you feel me, like, he got his own category, but like, messy more, but, like,

I thought I got my shit from different people, like, I wanted probably that rap like mess, but I wanted to be like Lil Wayne, you feel me?

little Wayne when he had to dredge you feel He was everybody favorite rapper at one point You want to be like Wayne you see me or Little Bow Wow little bow wow Little Romeo you from these nays fly as fuck on TV Young as fuck 15 12 10 probably They're on TV like I want to be like them like In the image you see me

Like okay I want to be a fly ass nigga You feel me But I want to rap like this and I want to You feel me? Right E-foughty two short Little Wayne I like Drake before Drake was even really like Drake for real Going super crazy early drink

I told him my mama one time I'm a big Louis Wayne fan, like big, big, big, big Louis fan. I'm on time, I'm little as fuck. Like, Drake better than Lou Wayne. Yeah, what? Like, you're all here tripping. You're tripping. What, nigga, he said he had money to blow.

You feel me? I'm tripping, I'm tripping. I swear to God, I'm better than him. You feel me? I'm, like, Wayne is a goat, but it's like, now that you see. And Drake was new at that time. Yeah, he was new. Exactly.

He was new. Then nobody really knew him. But I felt like I seen it in him. Like, nigga, watch. Watch, watch. But now you see like Drake now? Yeah, he's a boy. I was tripping, but I wasn't tripping too much.

You wasn't too far off. I wasn't too far off. You was talking crazy, but you wanted to too far off. Yeah, yeah. I hear like influence like that. Like, my mama, bust the rhymes. I like his music video. A lot of niggas don't say that.

He hellic creative. He hellic creative. His creativity. I want my creativity to be like his. Like, you get me, sometimes I be trying to do my music videos, like acting shit out or trying to do some funny shit. But that niggas don't see that nigg videos was over the top. Like my mama, oh, dirty bastard

The way he just get on the, um The mic can just play. You mean me? You mean? Uh, uh, uh, uh, it might sound stupid, you know? But he, he, you feel me that? Niggas fucked up that shit.

Niggas fuck with that shit, bro, and he, that's him, that's him. That's his personality, bro, like, just, you know, like, just, like, and my mama, like, just shit like that. Like, nigga, um, like, you 40 alibs and shit, bro. Like, I feel like I took a piece of, like,

everybody that I liked and then, like, Okay. Matter than you. They don't make me, you feel me? Type shit. Niggie, do you got any rituals or routines

that help you, you feel me, get in the, I'm feeling right and hit, uh, aspect or like when you're in the booth? Speaking that,

do you write? I write sometimes. I'll punch in sometimes, you feel like me, just depending on how I'm feeling that day, bro. I swear,

some of my best songs, bro, it would be just me just, that's why I'm glad I got the home studio now, bro, because it'll be sometimes I'm in the house

and they're just playing a game or something, something crazy coming in your, Yeah, you feel me. Put your phone out, or write that motherfucker down. But, nigga, I used to want to just, I used to forget. I feel like, nigga, some of my codest bars probably was unheard because,

I didn't get to write them down because I forgot them, you feel me? But the studio is to be right there. I'm hopping up, whatever. I'm going to go do this real quick. And then it's like, sometimes I could do it like that, like just going there and say a bar and then finish the song off that bar. You feel me? Like, okay, you feel me.

Or sometimes I could sit there and write. I could write a song and put it on four or five different beats, you feel me. and see which one it fit the most with Yeah I remember the hummy He told me he couldn't do that Like he was like bro how you Like any song that you write you could Like

I remember you had JP up here You can me I'm seeing JPM saying some shit Like any of his songs He can make it to a country song He can make it to it Facts I felt me and a

Me and a Hummy be doing that shit Just playing Like we're singing our shit To tell us with beef beats and shit Yeah just doing it just for fun And shit bro So I felt it was just easy to me I could put my shit on anything

Like I could sing that shit I could country You feel me? Like, we do that shit just playing. You feel me? But I feel like being able to do that. Being versatile with your shit. Being versatile for sure.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Walk us through a niggins studio day with Verdi. Verdi. I got to get high. Verdi ain't recording shit without no weed. I get high. Boom.

Sometimes, bro, I can't even really tell you real studio day, but because it'd be times, I can get high and have all that right there and be stuck. Stumped, like, when I'm gonna start, you feel me. I feel like I really gotta have good vibes around me. Everything got to be good. Bay mom got to be good. Be Ma'am got to be fed. You feel me?

Kids got to be clean, cooked, house got to be clean. I got to be doing shit and cluttery, you feel me. Facts, it's hard to think with shit dirty. It's hard to think when shit going on around your head, you can't, you see me. I need everything good. And when everything good, then I get in that good mode, bro. I can sit up and rap and play for hours, bro. If I'm in a good mood, you feel like my mood and being in the right state of mind, for real, that helped me.

If you're not in a good mood, how you handle your creative blocks? You feel me? If I ain't a good mood, I'm probably talking shit. You feel me? Like, that's how I'd be. Like, sometimes I'd be trying to make them hits and them, you feel me? But if not, nigga, that's when you've been to here, gang-sabody again. I'm tripping.

I'm mad about some shit, man. Niggo, turn that into something, regardless. It's something. It's been to, yeah. It's anger now. Fuck it. Angry zone. Type shit, no cap.

So, nigga want to ask you, man, where you see yourself as far as, like, in the music, industry you feel me in the in the next couple of years could you know it's kind of hard for being an independent artist you know what I'm saying and being from a place where it's hella rappers like you know what I'm saying like where you see yourself for the next five years I feel like if I keep doing standing in lane of the critiquing the the like toxic shit that they say I do I feel like that's gonna get me farther than what anybody else got going on even because everybody could rap I ain't trying to sound hockey and then, you feel me.

But everybody can rap like a gangster, you feel me. Everybody I feel like can't rap like how I rap. You feel me? When I rap about the bitch, this shit, I can, the niggas come, bro. I need help, bro, writing a song about the song about the bitch. You can help me. I need the song writing song about my girlfriend. You can help me, you can't do it.

I didn't even think I could do it. I thought I was sounding corny. It's fuck. My first, like, writing a song about it, you feel me? I'm like, oh, shit. What gave you the confidence to do it? I posted like it. Like, I had it in my phone.

phone bro I have probably like just a piece like just one little piece of like how the song started you playing are you I had that in my phone you feel me my bang mama rapped to her like that's just slap you see me finish this song you see me yeah I remember I posted a little snippet on Instagram like should I finish this song and should I drop it just rapping it like you If you mean, they like, yeah, that's your slap. You know what I made it. Nika damn there was one of my, like, biggest songs for me. That's why I'm like, okay, like.

This was working. Yeah, this was working. If I figure out how to perfect this shit, I'm, I feel like I'm be good. Would you feel like been the hardest part for you to overcome your career so far? Because, you know, it should be tricky sometimes, bro. Shit do be tricky. I didn't believe in depression. That's funny it's for you.

You sound like me. You be like, I mean, that shit fake, Nick, I'm happy. Shut up, bitch, I'm depressed, nigga, no, that shit. Go fucking bloody, Nick, go do something. You'd be high in depression,

you'd be, oh, fuck, like, bro, what I'm gonna do with my life? Like, you feel me? You'd be really, like, thinking about life, for real, like, depression ain't, depression. I feel like, that's my biggest. You feel like, being my biggest critic,

I feel like, that's my downfall. Like, this shit ain't gonna work or before without even trying and shit, mom always tell me, bro, like, bro, you ain't. You fail every time you don't try. How the fuck you're going to know what you good at Or what you could do if you never even try?

Like, you're going to have to fail, bro. Failing is going to be there. You feel me? Don't be scared of failing. Like, like, I can just do the shit And whatever when it work, it works. You see me? That's the fact.

But I feel like that's like my biggest setback. Like, I'd be like, man, this shit ain't going to work. And whoop and you feel me? Don't want to rap no more. You feel me? Something like shit like that. But you had a moment where you felt like, that shit not working.

I want to quit? All the time. I probably had like 30 of them before I even came up here. You didn't me? Like, like, for real, I'd be a, thing. I really, man. Speak on how you get over that. I get over it, bro.

Just knowing, like, if I don't do it, who gonna do it? Fact. You feel me? Like, nigga, stop being the bitch. You know what I being my man, bro, really be spending this in real game. Like, she ain't no square, bro. You know how other than the bitch is to sit there. Rep, okay, babe.

Right. You feel me? She, nigg, if you don't get show what I said, Are you, you feel me? Nika, need some extra... You feel me? You feel me? A little extra push sometimes.

No, I saw. That's damn, all I need, bro, is a little... A little confidence in me, bro. I can, nigga, go push him out and if a motherfucker go... Tell me, like, make me believe I can do it. You feel me? Right. Like, her and my mama, you feel me?

Like, damn. My grandma, my nana, you feel me? Like, damn, bro, like... They for sure, like, give me that extra. Like, you feel me? My kids. You feel me? Like, got kids.

You can't be sitting around. You gonna do something. You feel me? and then just knowing like like I said like I used to always quit on everything like I could have played football I quit doing that shit bro I just be like bro you not you're not fend to quit doing this nigga

you quit doing this what you're gonna do and it's what you wanted to do you feel me like you love this shit bro like you feel me so if you quit doing this what the fuck is you fin do you feel like yeah it's like I'm here exactly and it's like you right there nigga you right there nigga the day you quit nigga you're gonna fuck over everything

you worked for it to get to where you at right now bro ain't even no point doing that because the day you quit could be the day you feel me you was gonna make it Like, bro, so, nigga, you just got to keep going. Hell, yeah, speaking on that, nigga. How you probably fatherhood changed you? Fatherhood changed me, bro.

I feel like because, it made me smarter than my peers. It gave me a responsibility. It gave me a reason to give a fuck, you feel? Especially when you had kids early. I had my first son at 15, you feel me? So it gave me a lot to give a fuck about, you, for me. I got to make it home to that little, you, you feel me? I don't have a pop.

That's really what... I think you don't have a pot, so you're going to leave your son without the popes? Right doing dumb shit? And I can't do that, bro, because I know how it is without not having to pop, you feel me? Right, Jill would have put that on your kids? I ain't trying to put that on my kids, bro.

So, like, just that, nigga, it's been times. I was trying to go to parties and shit, moms. Nah, nigga, you got a son. Yeah, you and you're in there with your son. But you want me to watch him, nigga, for a party? You want me to watch him, nigga. You're talking about dumbies for me. And then check it out, though.

You got to party next to you know, party got shot up. Three people got hit. You feel me? Your ass could have been in that bitch. I could have been in that, motherfucker, but I'm in the house with this baby, you know It's been plenty of times I don't look at my kids

Like, dude like, I got superstitions, bro Like, not even superstitions, but like I, like, nigga, I got good feelings, you feel me? Like, like, nigga, one day nigga, nigga, you feel me? In Stockton, you feel me? Damn, never gonna do some dumb shit,

you feel me? My son get to crying this shit, you feel me? Like, crying, like, he ain't never cry before, but I was, like, hell knowing me, like, basically like, nigga, don't leave, like, you feel me? and the reason why I really be doing that because, look, the day that me and J-bo

went to jail, when he just recently went to jail. What that show was all over the gram and shit. Yeah, he was acting the same way, but I'd ignored it. He's just crying and shit, bro. He ain't, just being the baby, and shit. He's being a baby, bro, let me. Went to jail. Now I peep shit like that.

You feel like a shit like a shit. I feel like, bro, he trying to tell you, bro, don't take your ass out there, about something going to happen to you, feel me? So I feel like even that, like, just my kids, just like, they got to be putting signs to them and shit, like, even that, like, you feel me? no cap n'n't got to be

if you need got to trust it's a good bro you don't trust your gut you're going to end up somewhere sick no cap nigga speaking of that what advice do you got for aspiring artists coming up you know what I'm saying

get you a distro kit bro when I was first rapping or get you some type of distribution that's going to get you to them platforms you want to be on you feel me I used to be rapping no reason nigga I was just rapping just putting the videos on

YouTube thinking oh yeah when I get thousand, 100,000, whatever views, the check gonna come. Right. You might get a YouTube check, but you gotta get minds, I'm not knowing about none of this. You still gotta get your business right. You gotta get your business right. So I'm sitting there just

rapping, just rapping, just rapping, just rapping, ain't no money coming in, you feel me? I'm trying to figure this shit out. Like, Bliky, that's what I'm saying, my nigga Blakey put me on with the, like the business side of the shit. Like, okay, you got to get you a distro kid, you got to do this, you got to do that. Facts. I'll say get you a distro kid, you feel me? Because it's been

like time, I'm looking on Instagram, I'm saying, because I know what they saw on Instagram. Right. Like, on their story. And you're like, how to fuck? This nigga ain't famous?

How to fuck? He got this drug here. Yeah, he got that business right. Get your business right. That's what I say. Like, just your business about like before you even try to like, because you can make a hit tomorrow,

nigga, and if you ain't got your business right, that hit really ain't even going to matter for real. Like you ain't gonna be done to do nothing for you, you feel me? You ain't got the business. You feel me? I don't know,

niggis right now, the nigga that had a song or that could have changed their life but they didn't have a business. Right. Or they didn't did some shit, sold the song, somebody. You feel me? Facts.

That ain't even your song, though, you feel me? Like, you got to make sure your business right, bro. I feel like that's the biggest part of, you feel me, before you even, you feel me, get you a distro kid. The little shit, like, you know how everybody got the videos when they, when they just doing shit, singing their songs, and you feel me, like, market your shit. You got to have marketing. Yeah, yeah.

Using that social media You know, you feel Me? And I feel like You'll be, you'll be straight If you got the talent, you see If you got the talent, you get me If you got the talent

Somebody gonna see you You see me Or you could just be independent I know, niggins that's independent That's eating right now Like distro kid or United Masters Or you feel me So it's whatever you feel me

Fis you Yeah, no cap Niggas speaking to that Who's some of your favorite artist right now Besides yourself? Shalge myself Who you listening to?

What's your up? playlist. I'm slapping Jaybo. I don't know why. I'm slapping the money back buzz. I'm slapping. I'm slapping Taybee. You've been going crazy. Detroit niggas, you feel me. Getting money music. Fee me high speed music. You feel me? Some, because sometimes, nigga, I, I, I, I, my way here, nigga, I was, nigga, people going to clown me for this, bro. Sexie Red came on. I ain't turned it off. You know, you said I ain't turned it off

She was slapping Now she wouldn't have been Biddle her shit Boom boom Bum my old kid's bitch tripping You get me The whole time Like they'll okay

You feel me Because that's music It's gonna make you Do what music do You feel me It don't matter who mouth Is coming from You know

She wouldn't That bitches that get play Inside niggas cars On my mom For sure for show No cap But nigga You said

Like my inspiration Like rappers I feel like Yeah who's On your playlist Right now I support anybody that's like doing anything

it don't even matter if you suck if you, you feel me, if you get some money off this shit, bro, nigga, you feed you your family, you're feeding your kids you feel me? Or you could make a song that could come on and I could nod my head too, bro, you can get played my car for real. I'm God. I play I feel like I play a lot of underground music, you feel me? Yeah, up and coming type niggas and shit. Yeah, up and coming

type niggas, you feel me, or mostly the homies and shit, you know me. I feel like, I know a lot of talented people. The homie's really rap, you can't mean. There's some niggas that you ain't even, you ain't even heard yet that they even came out of you, you feel like, when I was in the shadow, it's like, I don't feel like rapping this niggas that's doing that right now. That could be rapping. You feel me?

What's the fact? I remember me. Hell yeah. What's some of your most memorable moments for the fan, nigga? I'm in the mall. Brother looking at me, he's trying to like, you feel me? He's doubling back, doing the little, like, you feel me? Like that's a birdie baby, you feel me.

Bro start like hyperventilating. Like, damn a nigga for the pass out. Cry like, like he started like really tearing up. I'm, bro, you good, bro. Like, you feel me? Like, you feel me? Like, you feel me? Like, you feel me?

And then after that, I seen that nigga again. You see me? That's crazy. Yeah, I feel like that was a crazy internet. I seen him twice. He did that shit. Then I seen him when I was like at the little clothing still trying to buy some clothes and shit.

I seen him again, you feel me? took a picture with him, let him hit my wood. and shit, you feel me. I felt like just making his day was, you feel me, like, I feel like he had the best interaction than, more than you feel me, that's what my best interaction is because I made that nigga hell happy, you feel me?

That's what's important. I can smoke with Bernie, Beau, oh, bro, this, boy, you feel me, I felt like a boy, like driving up. You feel like, you feel like, I'm going to make you feel good, you feel like. No, that's a fact. Another thing I want to ask you, what's the legacy that you hope to leave with your music, you feel me? What's the message

you're trying to? You feel? What's the message you try to leave with it? I feel like my legacy right now, I feel like, but because, like, I feel like we ain't got no really, what's the word? We ain't got no stocking and I really got that identity, like, for real,

you feel me? What do you feel like the stock and identity is right now? EBK for sure right now. It's for sure EBK right now. Naked, that's damn there, everybody. Yeah, my mom. But, nigga, what I'm saying is, like, the bay, how they got new rappers,

coming up. Right. They have Foti, they have short, they had, MacDray, you feel me? Who fuck we had?

We didn't have nobody, you know what, or you go to L.A., you can't, you feel like, you know, you know, that's what I'm saying.

Yeah, Snoop Dog, that's what I'm saying. That's what I feel like, like, legacy is, like, y'all to face, you feel me?

Mm-hmm. Like, even though, like, okay, like, you became boom, but it's like, you can't mention Stockton rap without mentioning

me, I'm not even trying to sound cocky, but you can't, you feel me? Who's from Stockton that rap? You're going, oh, yeah, woo, woo, woo, whirdy baby. Facts. Or if not, I'm damn there first, Freddy baby, you know, ooh, but then, woo, you see me?

But I feel like that's a legacy right now, just be in the face of Stockton and make sure that we do the right shit to really put on for whoever want to rap afterwards, you know? So it could be easier for them. Like, I'd be wanting to sample some old Stockton shit, but it's like, if I sample some other stock and shit, it's not going to be something in the world, no. It's not like, oh, you could sample,

You can sample a snoo dog song, you from L.A., you from L.A., you can't me, you sample his song type of shit, or a nigga from the base sample a two-short song, you feel me. I want the younger generation to be able to, let me slap that over you. You, see, me? You, see, me? You, see me? And sample that and remix that, and then, you feel like something different. Yeah, I want, like, I feel like we to face, like, and we've got to carry that for show, so everybody else could get through the dough.

Nah, that's a fact. That's a fact. Man, speaking of that, what you got coming up next, bro? Before we get you up out of here, man, what you got coming up next? I got an album, you feel me, it's been to drop, you feel me? It's called Thug Love, you feel Me, uh-thugs, love, hey, Thug Love, you feel me? And yeah, I feel like

like, damn they're one of my best albums I came out with... Any features you could tell us about on that motherfuckerger? It definitely didn't even got no feature, I'm saying? And I feel like that's nothing, like, most the majority of my albums, and niggas is just, like, hearing me, you feel me? Right. Like, the features is just cool, but, like, when I'm

getting my bag to where it's just me, it's different, that's what I'm saying? It's one of them albums like it's one of them albums like I got back in one of them you see me one in the one bags but it's a thugs love that's when it's gonna come out that's when that's your job you got a date I got on date on this shit you feel me but that's when I'm come out you feel me I got like 10 songs on that motherfucker for you all right for sure for sure that's viral man no cap bro tell everybody where they can find you at bro you can find me Instagram Verdi baby with a underscore you feel me I don't know

I don't know Twitter I don't like that I just got Instagram You know, you feel me. Like, Instagram, YouTube. I got a YouTube, matter of fact. I got a YouTube channel. Me and Big Moms. You feel me? T.T.4.

L. You feel to get a YouTube bag. As you should. YouTube check, you feel me. T.T.4L. Go subscribe, dear. You feel me. Shout out my nigga Blue 52.

You feel me. He's the reason why he's got here today. You feel me? Shout out Blicky. Shout out moms. You feel me. Shout out Grandma. You feel me.

If I'm forgetting anybody, I apologize. I'll know I'll let you. Yeah, no cap, man. That's another movie for me. I know what's going on. It's all mighty. Ready, baby. No jumper. We up out of here. No cap.