No Jumper - Wack Beat Up a Girl?! Crip Mac KOed Again, Sauce Walka Crashes Out & More

Episode Date: September 30, 2026

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We live? Why is there a random light pointed like not at us? The shadow. Wait, there was a shadow before? For real? It looks better. There's a shadow following your ass. It's the grim reaper.

Do it. Look like Rios got left off bad and bougie? Rios got left off bad and bougie. Do it. Look like Rios got left off bad and boozy? Hey, we did our third. annual cipher for the record today no jumper before

this we were like not a real gang but now we have our own park yeah where's the park nope right down the street we don't want to tell you yeah but we we're going to sit in the video we just drove around and so we found a random park and it had a park had a sign yeah I was like damn probably nobody claimed this park this your turf

there's my park now yeah so no more fighting no mo no violence at no jumper we take it to the park take it to the park the cops are going to love that we retire we retiring Jerry Dally no more that down the street. So many problems could have been avoided if they had just gone to the park.

Mm-hmm. Right? But now you know. But we were wild. Like, the cops did not talk to us, but you got Monchie B standing on the park sign with his red rag wrapping to the camera. Oh, shit.

You got me with my shirt off looking like a West Supremise list. You got lush, just being lush. Look like a-old. I was regular. And like, what the fuck is this mix of people? Like, Sherlocking Mafia. But that's what I was thinking

is that like, no drummer is supposed to be this, gang podcast or whatever but out of everybody on the cipher the only gang related person is munchy so yeah because like on the last one there's like a few more but it was also i just rewatched it yeah but that was kind of light too well you have tay and aunt and aunt and flaco but you know you know you're like hell's angels and he had blood you baby wait who's the hell's angel that's cool i look like one i guess you know you got you got you got less uh the big wet wet you're like that's uh big wet you guys They're the good kid that fell out of grace. You're a big kid, Mexican City?

Yeah. You know. That is one of the most clever things. The leader of the wood. You like that. I love that. Hey, the leader of the Wood Rasa. The Wood Rasa, fool.

Hey, and let's just say we got a little bit of a surprise. I don't want to give it away, but. Yeah. There's a, the song might win a Grammy, basically. Oh, yeah, I'm not going to lie. We have every reason to believe that the third ever November Cypher will win a Grammy. Is this the best one ever? We employed the same formula that won Kendrick a Grammy most recently.

Mm-hmm. Which is what? You wait to see. You wait to see. Great songwriting, inventive lyricism, all and more. Yeah, we kept a West Coast. Shout out Kendrick took his formula. We got to show our respect to the Rasa.

I think as far as it being the best. Rios is like, ah. No, I'm not. Racist Rios. Double R. You got double R's for Ricky Royce for racist Rios. But this is all about getting our get back. We need the thumbnail to be bracken, cracking,

and harracken because the first one ever, the thumbnail really, really bright. The video itself really, really bright. It's really lit up. When I was just watching it, it's like, oh, the colors are very in your face. The second cipher that we did, we filmed it kind of quick, and they put like an effect over the video that made it kind of muted color-wise. I was thinking about... This one has got to be bright.

We got to get it bright and in your face because that... We're coming off of an L. The first one has 440K. The second one has 140K. So that's a dip. How far in between was it, though? One year each. So basically three years ago we did the first one,

year ago we did the second one. Now we've got to drop. Oh, the second one, how much? Third one has 140K, which is 300K less than the first one. And keep in mind it was the default video on the No Jumper YouTube page. But the other one has been for a little while now too, because it was out like 100K and I got it up to 140K by making it the default. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Okay. Let's be fair. Flacco verse on the first one was AI And the second one wasn't I don't even think we had AI During the first one right No there was AI allegations of his verse Bro, because somebody wrote it

It sounded too perfect like but but People did point out some things To why it ain't AI like Flacco for sure Had somebody write his first verse And probably I think his second verse too No no he was at a quality studio Whoever that is like

We're all together No he wasn't with us Oh he wasn't huh yeah Everybody else recorded Oh, he said for him, yes. Oh, shit. But like, if you got a good mix and, like, you had a good studio, they could bring your, your versus a four up to like a seven for sure.

The reason why the first one also is super iconic, I mean, Brick Baby. With the beat, the B switch? Brick baby had a crazy. I want to get, I'm on a lonely mission tattooed on me, bro. That's such like an iconic craze. Yeah, and the first one was me and Flocko rapping for the first time. So I feel like that probably helped it quite a bit. And then, you know, this one.

We're at the park. That's pretty cool, right? Yeah, we have the new hill park. We finally got a new park. I mean, from a rapping perspective, I think this is probably the best one. NJG, no jumper gangsters, we got a park. I feel like, you know what? My verse sounds like the more I listen to it, it sounds like,

it sounds like Rio the young OG doing his like 14th verse of the day, like paid cipher. Like, it's just like I wrapped it in like 10 minutes and did not really like do any kind of fine. tuning. When I went back and listened to my first one, I was like, oh my God, I tried on this. I went back to the studio multiple times. I really trying to cook up bars. It was like really getting help from you and break. The second one also sound pretty good. The third one, I was just blah, blah, blah. I was just saying whatever. That might be why the first one did so well. You

actually put a lot of effort into it. Maybe. Yeah. Also, the visual for the first one was way better. We're on top of the no jumper store. So it looked cool. Like he said, it was way brighter. and stuff. The second one had to be Frankenstein. It was all recorded in different places. Well, it was actually everybody was together besides Ann. Well, no. And then break was over the front from jail. It was literally like several different sessions. Yeah, like me, you, Ralphie and Ant recorded together, but then Ant filmed his video separately. Like, Shouts to Kenny, by the way, for his work on all three ciphers. He did production on all three. And he really, he really, yeah, he showed out on this one. Kenny Malice went stupid. Yeah, that's dope.

That was a quick turnaround because it was just from Friday to right now. Friday we did a six-hour podcast episode that perhaps people would want to go watch after this but while we were doing that, everybody took turns going in the other room and rapping, yeah. And you did not come. So you didn't want to be on the song?

You're done with the rapping days? I had something to do with the fail. Yeah, and it was because much, Lusch told me he was like, oh yeah, it's going to be right after the Friday show, the members only. And it was like, motherfuckers, y'all didn't get going. until like eight or nine.

No, yeah, we didn't start to late. We started a little later than expected. Yeah. And I kind of figured that when I came out, and what I came out to Friday, I ran the fuck up out of here. Oh, you didn't like all the Tatiana. 20 versus one.

Yeah, it was still going down. I was like. You felt tempted? No, but. What was, what array of emotions did you feel? It was just a lot of, a lot of bodies around. Anything you wanted to take home?

No. As Mrs. Rio, like not a fan of their being no she's she don't care she's good to know her yeah she's good like this but that shit was just like and he was still like talking and they had the girls I was like oh they

motherfuckers ain't about to record oh let me figure out what kind of relationship you're in if you hung out for the whole 20 versus one and we're talking to the girls didn't get any numbers but you were you know chatting and maybe maybe like a clip comes out that shows you laughing

and being a little bit a little too flirty and you're in the background of the clip and somebody sends it to your girl are you getting yelled at or does she trust you enough to just be like oh he's just hanging out yeah so what if there's a much of hot girls around like like where is your relationship then so being that it's just like not a everyday thing right like it's just a once in a she's not tripping you know what I mean and the fact that she knows I don't drink or do anything she's like she gives me a lot of uh leeway you know what I mean she's like do you think but if it's like continuous like time at the time like, damn.

But if it's just one event, she ain't tripping. You know, come to think of it, you were noticeably absent from a lot of the ladies' nights' streams that pun was having, huh? You weren't really around because they had a lot of Tatiana's over there. The YAM cam stuff? Like, no, I was around, but I would leave the room. Okay.

Sometimes I would leave because it would be like, there's no way you could get your face away from the ass shaking. Yeah. It's like the... Did they still do that? Nah. Why not? They said, I think they said

they're about to bring that shit back. Just pun by himself or who? Pun, T. Rero. They brought you something. I was cursing on something over there, but she, I followed her. She didn't follow me back. Which one?

Which one? Yaya? It's all good. It's all good. It's all good. Where Yaya? I'll keep it P. Yaya, I ain't going to lie. I know where she strips.

I should go drop a bag on. She's killing it. Is she? At the strip club? She was just at the the concert with, Usher and Chris Brown. I just saw her Instagram.

In the crowd. I don't know in the crowd. But she was looking amazing. Yaya's beautiful. You know, it's crazy. Yes, she is. I went to the Usher and Chris Brown concert Saturday. Great night left there.

Went to the studio recording song, went home. Boom. I got a cash out for something. I threw the phone on the bed. I go, I cashed that out from me real quick. Then I went to sit down on the bed. Bam, got fired on. The girl?

The girl. Fired on here. Went down a pipe. Like your girl? Because I don't know if you have a girl, but. Yeah, I do. Okay. But see, but see.

You were just talking about how she's super cool and everything. He gave her his phone. Oh, yeah. She went through it. I thought she was cashing all my money. And bam, went down the pipe, right? I'm like, oh, no. I got her, you know what I was in?

My daughter, hey, I was, I'm like, man, I was trying to go. Because I don't want to go down a pipe and whip her out. But when I let her go, she's trying, I'm all right. See, you got to go. You got to get her out of here. because I don't go to, I go to you for games and shit. I don't go to jail for dementia violence and shit like that. Like, no, for a brother.

Like, but I'm like, yeah, but I got, Chris Brown. There she germed you? She's like, she saw some cash app shit or she went through your phone. She cashed it out and kept lying. And then cashed out on your ass. Slip, slap, yeah. Casket or some shit. Bro, but that, that's like pretty crazy to think of how many scenarios you have to potentially deal with in that way.

I don't go through that shit because people don't go through my phone. That's all so comfortable. I don't go through it. You go through a lot in your life. You ain't going through my phone, bro. But I got a code just because I got monetary apps on here. It ain't to hide nothing. You know what I'm saying?

Right. I don't really be going through shit like that. Like, but, you know. Were you like on a good one feeling yourself to not put it? Yeah. I just recorded a little R&B thug type song. My boy, Saj, A, B, singing on his calent tip. I did fill it in, straight bang her and shit.

came on. Because I don't know you to be slipping like that. Niggas, that's a slipping because I don't know anything. That's a slipping ass move. Yeah, but also like, he can't even brace itself for the punch.

No, that's not what I'm talking about. The slipping aspect is... Like, you just like... No, no. Like, why... No, no. The slipping aspect is even giving her the phone

to begin with and not putting two together in your head. Because I don't go through shit like that. I don't, like... She don't go through my... You know what I'm saying? Apparently you do, though. Now?

I got fired on it. Did you all straighten it out? Not really. What's today? Tuesday? Yeah. Oh, Saturday? Like.

You ain't talked? Like text or whatever? Damn. But you know. Can you say what she found exactly? I don't know. A text. Oh, okay.

I guess it's a text. Incriminating text. Yeah. Do you have any cheating tips that we should know about? Because I feel like you're probably pretty good at it. No, I'm not. I'm not. Like in my ex, we were getting into it.

I wasn't doing nothing. The thing is, yeah, like it says a lot. When you enter any relationship, start how you finish, bro, because then when you start doing shit you usually do, then you're looking crazy. I've been talking crazy about bitches on podcast. You know what I'm saying? That's what I've been doing. Like I've been enjoying myself in content and so when I do a 20 verses, it don't look like

nothing. Because it's within your wheelhouse. Yeah, that's all you. And I go, I go to ship clubs. Yeah, I slap ass. They at work. Hey, you ain't got to be back of the year to know that cheating tip number. Number one is don't let the bitch get your phone.

Yeah, but he's got a variety of, he's got a different condition. I don't hot, no, no, I don't hide shit, bro. Okay. I'm not, I'm not sleeping with the phone up under my pillow and all that. So no woman could ever tell you not to fuck around? No, no, no. It's not expected for me to do that, but like. It's possible.

Yeah, I could, I could go through any bitch phone, throw her shit on voiceover and go through her shit while she in the shower. I just don't do it. Yeah, I've never done that, Selena. It's like the one thing I won't do is go through a phone. How do I feel about that? If I feel I got to do that, then you need to beat it. Because my philosophy is you got to let an angel spread her wings. No, for you.

And see what she... I want to be way on the other side of no jumber building and my bitch over here and I know she ain't on nothing. If I got to be worried about she... Because Adam right there and she... I don't need to fuck with her then. Get that bitch up out of here. Do you go through your girl's phone? Never.

Never. Never have I ever. Never. No, because it's like... It's like an invasion of privacy. I hate that shit. It's like... It's cheating.

The game of relationships is cheating. It's like if we were all going to run a race and then we found out that Lush like wore his special shoes that let him cheat. It's like, I wore a roller skates. I'd rather lose than like win, quote unquote, win in the relationship by doing something that is against the rules, I think.

It's a violation. But Adam. Actually, I don't know. Adam, you, you in a good position where you do porn. I'm single also. Okay, but even when you was in a relationship, you did porn, She.

Yeah, but this is the thing that I think that everybody thinks that and everybody's wrong because everybody thinks that doing porn is the same thing as like having sex. It's work, but- It's different though. Because when you're fucking on camera, you are doing a performance for the camera. When you're fucking in your private life, you're just having sex. It's very different. Are you having fun at work?

Yes or no. It's fun. But it's not as fun as like spending a Friday night fucking your dime piece because it's, you're filming. You're doing something that's a presentation. Do you count those as bodies, though? You know,

it's weird as I stopped keeping track of my sex partners at the exact moment that I got into porn. So you don't count them as bodies, for real? In theory, I should, like, probably go through and, like, make a list of every porn girl that I ever slept with

because I do forget a lot now. But do I count them as bodies? Kind of, but it's kind of like, if somebody was like, oh, shit, you fucked Riley Reed? And I'll be like, Well, actually, rather read. I could say, yeah, I fucked her on off camera too.

So that feels more like it counts. But to be like, yeah, the girl Chloe Cherry from Euphoria, I fucked her. Fire. It was like only fans. It's not like I ever even talk to her. Why you didn't play my plug talk song for Lenin's old. It could be the intro, bro. I don't mean to knock, you know what made my boy break out the box.

But, bro. I don't think she heard it. Yeah, man, because you didn't play it for her. I was trying to knock him out of the box, but not like to get it to her. No, during the 24-hour stream, when that song got played and bunch he was dancing like pissed drunk

that's one of the best moments in no jump for history the ghost stream yeah the ghost stream the elusive stream hey are you gonna grub on this grub or not oh the one that the one that got away

yeah I wonder if we'll ever get that probably not right yeah you gotta play that from Lennon man we gotta vote on it I wonder we could find that like the stream not the song but also we're not gonna change the pog tugs song so

but you can play it for aren't you gonna do a therapy thing with her yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah. You like that? I love that. She's gonna go on the couch. That day I wanna do with all girls.

You're like, I got something for you. You listen to this. Wow. I wanna do, I wanna do, yeah, I'm gonna play during. But okay, of the no jumper girls, like the wives, who should it be? Lena and. No, no, I always go, uh, Angie, Angie Smalls, you know, she used to talk to Raider. I was gonna ever pull up.

Jesus. You're really digging in deep. Yeah, you're digging in the crates. Shots to Angie, though. It did. If it fall on like a good day of the week and Jess West out here, I want to on second then Lenna last. What about Lady Josh?

Which one? You could ask her about how she goes about Lusher's Bar about her? I don't know Josh's She thought it was hilarious. Oh, good, good. Yeah. Lady Josh? He took aim at Josh's situation ship on this verse

and I think it was enough that Josh took his verse off the song. That's not why Josh took his verse off the song. Josh recorded a verse. The people need to know. Josh recorded a verse. All right, all right, wait, wait, the second cipher. Josh wanted to do a verse, and I just kind of was like, nah, you know, you ain't honest.

Yeah. And then I heard it through the grapevine that he was pissed. He was offended. Yeah, why you do that? Because I just don't think everybody need to rap. And like, I just said like, nah, but I didn't think it was anything. I didn't even think he cared or like noticed that I said that he wasn't on it. And then I heard it through the grapevine that he was pissed about it.

And then he did a verse on this one. But then I guess the Edgars and shit were making fun of Josh to the point. Took it off. That's exactly what happened. Hey, Hey, the Eggers, they're harsh, bro. And Mikey.

And they'll pack you out. The Eggers and Mikey. Joe, I got shut down by dudes 20 years younger than him. He got, because the thing is, I had my bar,

right? And I was like, the end of the very last bar is like, it was a joke, right? And he got super upset. And then she thought it was hilarious.

Well, we know what his soft spot is now. Hey, did I flirt with his girl by accident? Yes, yes. So I kept saying, much you don't know,

much you don't know she was you had her how did you flirt on accident because he didn't know it was his hyena so I was like man you're gonna ya moaning the truck like yeah like yeah yeah and I close your eyes and do it again think of munchy

there's probably footage of me flurred mother before she was Josh's queen too because remember she was on the pod that time yeah we found out she was 20 and we're like whoa oh really I ain't that old so Josh off the second one and the third one the third one by his own yeah he had

a verse on there and he took it off because the Eggers shamed him Was they, did y'all hear it? Yes. I only heard like the first bar too. Hey, Josh, man, I do it. We go to collab and we go diss the Eggers, bro. Me and you, bro.

I like that. Doe Boys are going to be so pissed. Like, I've been trying to form a streamer duo with you and you go and form on with Josh. Hey, D'Oboy. The biggest question I think that would be answered by the cipher is like, is Doobo's verse good or not? Because people seem to either think it's really good or cringe enough that it's like laughable. Yeah, Shody said he had the best verse on the side. Oh, I know.

And my read is that the older people are, the more they're like, doughboys verse. I said a dead Stephen. He set me up with the nigga from Paroo on that string, bro. Oh, yeah, he did. Yeah, he sat that nigga down next to me with the ski mask on. Oh, sit you next to push on. We just wear this.

I don't do no peace. Hey, I'm like, this nigga tweaking. Hey, that's true. She was hanging out with Sigel cult before Josh. That's actually disgusting. That's not true, is it? Hey, man, she needs a tennis shot. Josh just nodded, then I got real worried.

But no, but the thing. is, by the way, not egg god. But, but, no, not like that. I don't think she was, like, messing with any of them. She just had, her friend was messing with one of them. No, but like, shorty then afterwards, after she's like, yeah, uh, dobley got the best verse. And 10 minutes later, she's all like, that made him feel really good, didn't it?

Yeah, this guy just got a laugh at me in the chat. Josh probably had his trash ass bar. I don't want a better bitch. I want my bitch better. That, but that's what like Josh literally quotes regularly. Yes, yes. I didn't hear that. That's an inside job. That commentary.

I mean, that's kind of funny when Blueface says it, but I don't want to hear Josh saying that shit. Blueface could say trash shit in there, right? Because he makes it sound a little player. Had to kick my own blood out, but forgot it was a crib. That's my favorite Blueface bar of all times. You got to stop being so amused by gang shit.

Yeah, I do. Yes, I do. Yeah, I do. Every single, every day we're going to turn a C to a B, and we're going to be like, ha, ha, ha, ha. I just want to like go into your brain and just like remove some of the gray matter that thinks that gang jokes are really really funny. Maybe blueface is stream going to church. Nah, fuck that.

He need to go to church. Shit, he need to bring someone else with him. You need to bring his manager with him. Go to all the bitches. Start beating up girls and stuff. Who credit face? Yeah, you got it. You got an old leather face manager slapping up.

How long are we going to co-sign this? If Adam don't bring this up on the Adam and Wax show, Adam is compromised. No, it's just news. He's going to just set him up to do a PR campaign to tell how it's all. You can't clean that shit up. You heard, I'm going to kill you bitch of Paroo. Why?

Hey, bro, she sounds sorry, Mr. Wack. What the fuck? Yeah, that's, we want to review our latest evidence? I'm not trying to, like, protect anybody. Like, I'm not going to throw them under the bus. Oh, you hit a girl one time. So now I'm not cool with you. I don't fucking care, honestly.

Like, most of those bitches, let's be real. Most of them could use a couple of wax across the face. I'm not saying I would have been the one doing it but I'm saying it's not like those are the kind of women that I would ever feel bad for They had it coming Without knowing anything about it they had it come You reacted to it and you was lost like

Why is he doing this? No that's a different clip There's now there's like further abuse That is apparently taking place More I guess So all the women over there deserve to be smacked You think they have it coming? I'm not saying they all do But for sure some of them do

it's like you know if he ran up in the boys and girls home and started slapping girls then i'll be like ass fucked up but realistically on the blue face reality show yeah probably some of them need to be beat up who around all these women and think violence but he clearly is not here to protect women i mean like he was totally justifying the fact that a tour that he was tour manager for had multiple r word allegations and he was like this is normal this is what happens on tours all the time too amused by that i was like man i'd be so worried that's like that's actually disgusting bro i know doesn't happen on normal tours. Though it's disgusting is what he just said.

I mean, yeah, that's horrible. Like that the women deserve to be hit. Like, what could they do to be beef? You're taking it too serious. But just in general, though, I'm saying you fill a house with a bunch of the most annoying ratchet-ass bitches on earth. Yeah, I'm not like really inclined to be like, oh, we have to stand up for their rights. I'm going to fuck.

No, no, no, no. You don't have a mic. You don't have a mic. You don't have a mic. Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question, Adam. You can't be in here if you're going to talk about them, Mike. Sorry.

Adam. Let me ask you ask you question. If you want to keep talking without a mic, you're going to have to leave. Hold on, hold, hold on. Okay, thank you. Again, you don't have a mic, so you've got to go if you're going to keep talking. I don't give a fuck. Get out of here.

You don't have a mic. Hold on, hold on. I fucking lost my question. I'm just saying, she doesn't have a mic, so she can't be in here talking about no mic. I was just saying, like, do we got to be there as a manager? And you and your wife be, like, in the house? If I was doing a reality show with, like, 15 girls. in the house, I guess I would probably want my manager and like other people on the managerial end, right?

On the, like, behind the camera, right? Oh, like, just around. Like, in Video Village, though, like, sitting with, like, the director or whatever they have, like, the commercial side. I mean, it's basically just a big house. And then they're streaming inside of the house. And then, you know, there's like a shitload of girls, like, cameraman and stuff like that. Like, you need people around to help manage the whole situation in general, which is, I guess why he's been there for three weeks. Or let's be like, uh...

Talent wrangler. They need a talent manager. Like mature. cheat right but why why why your manager at every venue fighting security and fighting the i agree that and then fighting the bitch like what's what's with this well didn't even blew himself the word managed by definition it's not you know what i'm saying manager manager yeah didn't he also like straight up say himself that he wished that whack wouldn't be as controversial or getting the myths of controversy to the degree that he is i don't know if i've heard that but thought he said it like

when you interviewed him something like that that But that's a part of, but that's a part of his, his or, though, right? Like being in the middle of stuff and, like, uh, who a whack or blue? But managers ain't supposed to have orres. Like, you know what I'm saying? You're supposed to have a reputation for getting shit done and having connections, not beating bitches or blasting paperwork as a manager. Well, that was the whole shit.

Who does he manage? The, the most popular. Blueface and Blueface. I don't really. And Ray J. In the game. In the game, he manages Ray J in the game, but I don't really think he. He managed Blueface in 607 up.

But for the record, though, he doesn't have, like, I don't think he has a traditional manager-style relationship with any of these people where he takes, like, 20% of all their revenue. I think he just, like, brings them deals. And, you know, it's the same way where if, like, if I was some rapper's manager, but I'm not taking a percentage of his money, but I bring him deals and I get a percentage of those deals

or I get him shows, and then I take a percentage of those shows, you know, where I was, like, you know, probably a lot of people have, like, a manager that just does everything and is involved with everything and they take a certain percentage of everything you know like would you say that he's successful as a manager i just think he has like a different manager thing going on his streamer guy is one of the being one that has the most attention on right now he's definitely successfully parlayed

his notoriety from whatever happened uh him firing on stitches back in the day and into a position where he's able to open certain doors. Oh, so look, much you said you got to start how you finish. That's the first time. So he's finishing how he started. Yeah, I would say so. Yeah. So he's never really shown to be like not that.

You know what I mean? But I mean, like, but Munchy does have a good point. Like that was the whole reason why Shug Nite or Shugnight was like, if you don't want the executive producer all up in the videos, like the talent, let the talent be the talent and the people that are behind the scenes. There's no need for them to be more prominent or more vocal than the people that they're supposedly But it's adding to it Yeah, when you're streaming especially like everybody in the streamer house could potentially be a main character in whatever is going on on stream, right?

Yeah, no, absolutely like in that sense, yeah, but once once it's like creating a liability and there's like legal action as a result of it and like women being hit and things like that it kind of Lose that it kind of is less scary, in my opinion. Like, hidden women shit, that's completely bonkers. You know what I mean? Like... No, for the record, I was joking about it before. Real stuff, fucking lawyers, like, making it seem like I'm being super serious. But I don't actually

approve of hitting girls. I just also am like, if anybody thinks someone will, like, cut whack off because he hit a girl, like, I knew what I was getting into. I'm not. I don't think nobody expect you to cut whack off, bro. Yeah. Yeah. It happened now, they're going never happy. It ain't, not for no, no, no, no, no, no harass for show, but... I feel like

every no-jumper host, realistically. probably got a couple of DVs throughout their life. Never. But that's because most of your girls overpower you. I've been hit by one base. I've never hit a bit. Yeah, yeah. No, I mean, I've got girls.

I'm okay, I'm fucking lying, you know. What made you, what, what, what caused that? The one that was bad. Actually, to be honest, I can pretty much look at my whole life and say I never hit a girl besides this one night where I was at this bar in Austin and I'm with my homies and we got two girls, right? and it was like one of the girls like I'm I'm with her we're clearly going to sleep together we used to date back in the day she sees me give another girl a hug and she knows that I fuck this girl like while I was dating her before and I cheated on her with this girl whatever so I'm not even thinking about it I'm drunk whatever we're doing drugs I forget what drugs we're even doing I'm doing coke and shit and like she sees me give this girl a hug and her friend this girl who I'm going to give her a fake name Jennifer Jennifer at that moment after realizing that I just upset her friend by hugging the So the girl really like sets her eyes on me to let me know what a piece of shit I am,

how I cheated on this girl, Jennifer, and how I'm the worst fucking person in the world and nobody's ever going to love me like the way this girl did, blah, rah, rah. So, but this is back in it was like 2008, 2009. We're in the whip driving. We have to drive to San Marcos from Austin. I'm not driving, but my friend is driving. We're all annihilated. We're all snorting Zanz.

We're fucking drunk. Nobody should drive like this. Fire. And the girl is in the backseat flipping out on me. And I'm trying to help my friend drive. Yeah. Oh, because he's torn up. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And I'm like on the GPS. I'm drunk too, but at least I'm going to drive. And I'm like, yo, okay, yeah, go do this. Take this turn. I'm trying to ignore the fact that this girl's in the backseat screaming at me. And of course, we're getting lost. The whole fucking drive home takes like almost an hour.

We're like five minutes away from the fucking spot. And she's just still screaming. I mean, she's banging on the back of my chair, blah, blah, I just fucking turned around and just grabbed her by the throat and just I didn't hit her. Yeah, reach your limit. I just choked her, yeah.

That's not as bad, though. I didn't feel bad, but then later on she tried to, like, expose me or whatever, so. But that's not like putting tips on. You know what I mean? Yeah, I didn't punch her in the face. I didn't feel that bad. Yeah, choke.

Choking is one thing. Like, yeah, you basically hit your breaking point. Like, she pushed you to your breaking point, which is like... But what's crazy, though, is that when you tell that story, it's like, nobody would ever care with the fact that she was screaming at me for an hour.

Yeah. You know, it's like if you're a guy and you do anything physical, you're the bad guy. But you're also, like, she was in more harm's way just being in a car with a drunk driver than she was getting choked at that. And my thing is, it's like, bro, we're on a fucking drunk driving mission, which now seems totally untenable. I would not take part in this. But at that time, this is pre-Ur, we got to drive like a pretty far distance considering

that we are all annihilated. We need to be on the same team. If you want to argue with me, if you want to fight, fucking argue with me when we get home. This is not the place. It's like, if me and you're out and,

if you get in a fight with somebody, like, I have to ride out with you. And then later on, like, even if you say something bad, like if you say something offensive to this guy and he wants to fight you,

I got to fight him with you. I can't just like, you know, we talk about it when we get home. She didn't like you from the jump, though. Like, she didn't like you for the jump. She was a bad drunk. You see it.

And, yeah, that was crazy. But you lucky. see because she could have got you fucked up like if she'd have called dude in Texas especially like they are like janky loud y'all lucky you didn't get blurbed you didn't luck you didn't bat and you're lucky yeah oh my god and it's so crazy and when there's people fighting in a car and someone's driving drunk like is that much more likely to yes and that's like my my homie simpson and barc simpson

yeah my home yeah that's what i look like my homie needed to be so focused on driving home you were trying to save your life yeah not right i was i'm not right i was i I didn't want my friend to get arrested. He was frustrating. He said, bitch, shut up. Yeah. He was a pro bike rider for my bike team at that point. So I'm really invested in this motherfucker getting us home and not getting arrested.

And, you know, whatever. Did you warn her, you're like, I'm fin to choke you, bitch? I'm sure I said mad shit before I fucking actually flipped out like that. Yeah, because, like, even I have a memory of a girl, like, I'm playing poker. I got 10 tables open. You know how fucking focus time when I'm on that shit. My ex-girlfriend, this is probably 2007. and she's so mad at me about something

that I cannot remember because it was a million years ago and she's screaming in my fucking face over and over and over. And at a certain point, I just like took her by the shoulder and just like lowered her to the ground and was like continuing to play poker while I was just like holding her at a distance

because she was like in my face acting like she was going to hit me. And I really, I remember like I didn't, I didn't know what I could really do in that moment to like get out of this situation because she was so. so offended by the fact that I wouldn't get up and stop playing poker, that she just, I felt

like I had to do something physically to restrain her. So, yeah, but those are the only two times in my life where I ever had to do anything, I think. That's your weak point. Like, that's your trigger point. People yelling at you are just like poking the bear, because you got, you got irritated with her too. Like, pretty fat. I mean, like, you got to act like a fucking grownup. Like, I don't know, like, was that bad? Like, because she, you're talking. I tell you, you don't have a mic you can't talk if you don't have a mic this is a podcast we're recording something for the world to see why are you talking and then she keeps talking and it's just like she reminds me a trooper in that moment i'm telling you to stop talking she keeps fucking trooper set you off it's the

talking we're recording content and you're not respecting the fact that we're recording content so that's why i just booted her out of here which by the way i just booted lusher's his girlfriend out of here for the record that's your girlfriend's not my girlfriend oh oh hey hey hey someone else's but she got a family So for sure she's gonna make a video about that. The dude with no teeth and Moneyback Rose, they should have got booty. Ice? Yeah.

That shit was, that shit was, that was, that was like. Oh, I know the cold part is it was just like literally a misunderstanding because you, I know you, no, I know your sense of humor and I know that you didn't actually mean what you were saying. She's over in the corner like, Adam, you have a daughter. Shut the fuck up. Now, get out of here. It is a sense of subject. Jack, for certain people of that.

But that's what podcasts are about is about talking about sensitive subjects and having interesting conversations, not somebody getting offended without a microphone and yelling in the corner. Wow, thank you so much for coming here. That's really adding to this. I'm not bringing your girl ever again.

Think about how much bigger this building is than this room? Like, you could literally be anywhere in this room where you won't be bothering us by talking. It sounds like what you was basically saying is, them girls ain't no angels, but, you know, that's why I got out of it. I mean, that's like when a girl

gets killed and then you find out that she was like from like and then you find out it was chunky Barbie you're like oh well what I what I don't shout of chunky Barbie but you know what I'm saying also you also need to sit back because the camera you're not you're facing away from the camera

not trying to mind you're leaning in and covering me so I just want to point those out while we're going for it I don't like what I'm back I don't like how people will take things that we're saying hyperbolicly or that are completely as a joke and then be like, like, this guy's a terrible person. Can you believe what he said?

Everybody. Everybody don't understand that now, though. Yeah, I just don't understand it. No, no, I'm not saying I don't understand it, but I just don't like it. But that's what I'm saying about that girl is like, oh, cool, we're in here having a fucking funny conversation and we're talking about things that are edgy, not entirely socially acceptable. I'm like literally sitting here and talking about things that I know are fucked up in like 99%

of people's minds. Like, I'm sure I want somebody policing it over there. Oh, that's bad. Hey, that's bad. Don't talk about that. It's bad. No, go. Get the fuck out of here.

He sounds Asian. Wait, what accent is that? The fuck was that? That's literally like me so horny voice right there. Me love you long time. But that, but yeah. But that's, people take everything we say very literal. Like, it's kind of like dealing with children kind of.

Because it behooves them to do so because that's how they make content out of it, you know? Yeah. Well, it's like a super. Hey, man, I don't get a fuck about nobody opinions on it. I'm talking about it. the main character involved with this shit. Like, that's some weak shit, you know what I'm saying? Straight up.

Back to y'all, the thing you all hate the most. I get it. It's, if it's your homie, it's gonna have a different accent to it. You might be a little bit more forgiving. But if you just like remove the characters and remove whatever affiliation you have to them and just look at the overall thing, analyze this person. Look at the inconsistencies of his character.

Actually, it's not even inconsistencies. This is consistent consistently. showing that you're a terrible human being. Like, I don't know. I feel like what the, the, the show that God is watching. But why all of a sudden, because this is a new thing, like you weren't saying all of this and not liking him that much like this. This is like after the fact y'all get into it. Why was he not this before? No, he was. He was just like, was being very aggressive about anybody having any type of opinion about him whatsoever. And I was trying to maintain some, what, Professional.

Yeah, somewhat of a rapport with this person that I'm, like, supposed to be working with in some capacity. So in my head the whole time, like I said, if I remove myself from it. But now it's like, okay, like, there's no reason for me to keep the gloves on at this point. This is interesting, too, because the girl that, uh, that posted the photos of her face all red today and said that whack hitter, I guess she, like, took that photo down because it's not on her Instagram anymore. Was it on a story or was it on a record? It was on her feet. I was looking at it earlier. And she followed me, but then...

Was it AI? Maybe it's a different Instagram, because she followed me, but I can't seem to find the account. Oh, no, followed by Adam 22. Indeed, that is me. So I don't know. She had it up earlier, but I guess it's gone.

Well, she got to realize, well, she put that up as viral as that is. It's on the internet. It's stuck. Yeah, it's going to be somewhere. It all matter if they called you and told you take it down. I don't matter at this point.

And, okay, for the record, it's like, I don't agree with guys with guys hitting girls. generally, but there's definitely a level that a woman can get to in which I do think it's justified. Yeah. There's a level to which you are no longer a lady and you're just a human. Yeah, but the thing is, like, if a girl could get you or somebody could get you to that level, like, I'm just, even just in life in general right now, I'm like removing myself from the situation

because it's like nothing good comes out of that shit. And if somebody can trigger you that bad, like to where you attack them, or somebody who can't beat you up, you know she can't beat you up. Yeah. It's like, it's like a lose, lose. Like just remove yourself, get up. Hey, come on, babe, we're out of here. This is, this is fucking stuff.

And that's straight little dick, weirdo energy. Who the fuck puts hands on a female? Like, it even has to, especially if you're in a boss position, get it under control. If it's really that deep, send one of your homegirls is a beat her ass. What the fuck? That's some straight marks shit. I don't really know what she did.

So it's not like I could actually, like, justify the situation in general. Who really puts hands on a female? A lot of some twerk in a lot of people. That's fucking weird. But I'm telling you're in hip hop. the fuck you're talking about this is the subculture in which hidden girls is the most normalized no i think a huge percentage of the rappers i met over the years have domestic situations occurring like all the time it's never country music too man they think they probably they probably like got the

gold medal of that could you even name one country singer who got arrested for being up there girl it's like the subject of every yeah see that's pretty rough that's pretty rough i can't even i'm not naming the rappers but it's because i don't know i don't know i don't Brooks. If I put my hands on Lennie, that's assault. If Adam put his hands on Lennon, that's domestic violence. It's a difference, bro. Well, if she wants to call cops, it's assault, too.

No, if you do it, it's not. If, yeah, if I hit her and she calls the cops and says I hit her, yeah, I'm getting arrested. Well, I mean, sure, but it's also assault, right? Doesn't domestic. It's like the bloke to you the hubby. You're the hubby, unless you're super obsessive with it. But look, I'm telling you, this is not your bitch. What are you even arguing about?

Like, you know what I'm saying? I can see if you get into it your bitch. You're like, shut the fuck up. Yeah, that's what I don't get because it's like you have security in here. If there was a girl who was pushing the limit so much and it was that annoying, this is what I would do.

Hey, get her out of here. The end. If I felt myself even getting close to the point where I was going to trip out or I'm going to yell at her, I'm going to make the content. But as soon as I feel like it's getting to the point where this is going to be a violent situation, I'm going to tell the security, get her out of here.

Adam, there is no security. in the house. Well. But he comes to, get her out of here. That seems kind of fooling. Get her out here. She didn't go nowhere.

There was no security, bro. The Crips are their security. Well. Or them little bum nicks to be on tour with. The three niggas that follow whack around. Like, it ain't no real security.

But that's the kind of content that's being made, though. I was just talking to y'all about this shit and about the standard is dropping. It's like, what is this shit? What is that? What are you talking about right now? Of those shows,

those Zeus shits and like just fighting and like oh let's fight and beat each other up well i hate to break it too but black people love it no white people love it nope who do you think signed enough for zeus white people no if they had some ass they'd be signed zeus is like i'm gonna go around on limb say zeus's audience is like 70% black plus like what listen women love reality tv in general but i think it's fair to say zeus's audiences and it's the same people that are watching love and hip-hop and all that shit on VH1, et cetera. It's the same people that love rap, white people.

It's like white people. Rap is appeals to men, though. That's large. No, no, no, the Expandings support are here about. Rap is. California for sure. Rap is white people, largely, who want to know about what's going on in the streets

or with black people or whatever, sure. But when it comes to like black-based reality TV, the likes of like Zeus and all this type of shit, it's women who want to watch women living lives that are slightly cooler than their lives. It's for sure not me. I was never entertained about, I was never entertained about females fighting unless I really want this particular female to get whipped out.

You know what I'm saying? I've never been entertained by that in my life. By chicks fighting each other? I mean, if I want to see some titty, I'm going to have sex. I don't need to wait for no bitch to fight for it to come out. You know what I'm saying? More black people watch the Zeus Network as the subscription streaming platform, mainly targets and centers around black urban culture, hip-hop influencers,

and black reality television cast. Oh, that's a higher male. You didn't have to hire. Higher female. You didn't have to type that in. Already knew blacks is tapping. Yeah, but Real's trying to argue. The whole cash is black.

Wait, it's 58% female and then 42% male. But maybe Zeus has a bunch of stuff that we don't really know about that appeals more to men. Because I've, I had it at one point, and I watched one episode of baddies, and I couldn't handle it. I was like, this is the dumbest. Like, it feels so insulting to my intelligence to watch this. It feels so fake and contrived. Is that where to grow at the big chance? is on. Natalie Nunn?

Yeah. Is that where she's at? Well, is she part of Zeus? Well, she's, so it started with Bad Girls Club and then it, then she, I believe is the producer of Baddies. Is she? Okay. I watched that one show, but they stopped it because I think they couldn't get along, Black China Mama and Tokyo Tony.

Yeah, yeah, that. She was asking me about her. Yeah, that was entertaining. Yeah, she's the face. Who, Tokyo Tony? No, Natalie Nunn. She's like the face of Zeus, which I didn't us. Because she did create baddies, but didn't she create baddies on regular TV? It was like a spin off of Bad Girls Club.

Then she started as a person on the show on Bad Girls Club. Yeah. And then... That's crazy that she's known for having a big chin to the point where a Plagboy Max wore a fake chin on stream with her. It's pretty prominent. She looks like the McDonald's guy back in the day, the moon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But a lot of girls get their chins like grinded down now. I wonder if that's not an option for her.

She got the scream chain? Yeah, she got the Mac Tonight. It is pretty out there. I know a lot of girls that have had, like, chin work done. Get their chin smaller. Get, like, a little ball in their chin to make their chin different shape. Well, are those people, like, on camera, like... Porn stars.

Porn star, yeah, that's, I'm just, like, they're trying to look good for a reason. Got that sturdy chin. But Natalie, none on camera all the time, too. Like, if she cared, she would probably do it, but, hey, fuck it. She's like, shit, I got this much money with that with this shit. Who is this dude and why is this gay dude in the house of Blueface in him? Bobby, I saw some clips in him. I don't really know.

Who is that guy? I feel like that appeals to, like, there's a lot of overlay in that audience. And I'm not talking about the black audience. I'm talking about people specifically. I mean, but that ain't. There is for sure a sizable portion of gay people watching that. I mean, but that ain't creeping, bro. What are you doing?

Just keeping a gay dude around. He's like a stylist or something. Blue face. Respect my Crippy. Right. You're telling this thing not to say cause, like,

or, or, but you got the gay dude. And then he had the other gay dude that was rubbing his dick on my leg. Huh? Remember when the guy was putting his dick on my leg? That's his style. Yeah.

He's there too. He's there? No, I'm saying, that's what you guys are saying. Both of those guys are there. No, no,

no, no, not the one to put his stang on his thigh. It's another gay dude with a deep voice. Yeah, that's dude, Bobby. That's, I just keep seeing clips of him. I don't really know exactly who he is or whatever,

but I mean, hey. That shit is on par, is what I'm saying. Like, whatever that is, it's on par for that type of entertainment. It's like fighting and aggressive violence. But you ain't asked you, what's the gay nigga there for? Some gay shit. Just to be a gay guy. Spice it up, you know?

Okay. If you got a house full of black dudes, you throw like one racist guy in there, boom, now we've got a TV show. No, he'll be a gangsters, throw a gay dude in there, boom. Something might happen. He might be a makeup or a stylist. No, no, no, no, no, no. He gay, gay. I was like, what is blood and what he know about?

People know who he is. It's like a saucy Santana type character. He sounded like he got, he was with the business. It sounds like he'll whip somebody else. Munchy's mind is so attuned to like any gay dude being around a bunch of straight guys. No, no, no, no. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I know some gay people. But I'm saying if this, like, it's based around women.

All right, here's my show. It's called punks. We get a big house. Jesus. Fellow with a bunch of tough-ass dudes. We did serious prison time. They have to all have taken a man's booty before. You put him in a house with a bunch of really feminine gay dudes,

and they have to fight the urge to fuck these dudes. Like, like Fleet Johnson type. Please Johnson is number one on my list, yes. So he's the host? Somebody go get caught. They'll get caught. If that's already what they're into, they go sneaking gait. Oh, yeah.

I mean, the goal of the show is eventually for every one of the dudes to fuck it at least one. That's the direction this bullshit is going. Well, maybe that's how you look. lose is you don't fuck. Sheesh. Or no, that's say you win. You win if you're the one dude who can't fuck. You can't bring himself to do it.

Ponks with an O, P-O-P-O-N-K. The sad fucking thing is this is like not that far off of what is being, like this, all this shit is just the standard is just dropping and dropping. This shit is fucking garbage. I guess like this show would be complicated because it's kind of

alluding to the idea of rape. No, it's no, temptation. Temptation. Because the punks is going to give in, right? Yeah. They're like to dangle the carrot, right? Yeah, for sure, dangling the carrot. And more ways than one.

He's crazy, man. This world is coming to some shit. I'll tell you, the fucked up crazy shit, you just thought of this shit out of your crazy-ass mind. Yeah. And it will make some fucking money. People will watch that shit. Like, it's like literally watching train wrecks.

The thing is, I think when you're conceptualizing, like a TV show like that, you have to keep in mind that the content, needs to be relatable enough to appeal to a big group of people, you know? So even like baddies being like something that's clearly kind of directed at black women, to me like in my head the first thing I think of is like shit, is that demographic big enough? It appears it is. The thing is if you do a show about guys who are like trying to fuck gay dudes,

every dude's going to be turned off by it because they're 99%, well, I shouldn't say 99%. 90% of guys are weirded out by gay shit. I don't think women want to see that because that sounds weird. I just think it's like, it's too weird that it might not work. All you got to do is is ad fighting in there. All you got to do is at fighting.

The punk beat up one of the jail dudes. And then, because they have a gay show where all they do is fight. I just, I think you might underestimate how much normal people are disgusted and weirded out by gay shit. They have shit on fucking TV

where motherfuckers is in, love with roller coasters. But that's not gay shit. Fucking balloons and dolls and all kinds of furries. But people can be weirded out by freaky fetishes like that. I don't think people are going to be able to sit back and laugh about like, oh, Crip Mac, they're trying to like tempt Crip Mac with this gay dude. Like, ha ha.

Like, because that's obviously going to be an episode. Because Crip Mac has to come in and like make it clear that he's not going to do this. Clear eye for the Cripp eye. Yeah, I don't know. I just I I I like okay I did an interview with Aaron Carter before he died and we were talking about making a t-shirt with me and him making out on the t-shirt and we thought it was so funny somehow we made it I think we sold 10 so I just like our fans straight men they don't want a fucking shirt with two dudes kissing yeah which I probably should have known that but even put a shirt with just your friends. face on it. Yeah, even not. It's weird. You know what I mean? That's not it. But if you throw, say you and Aaron Carter fight,

when you throw violence on shit, it just, it's that much more consumable. Violence and sex are the only things worth selling. I've heard people say. And when you really think about it, like, you know, like everybody, like people are always like in the BMX world, they still come to me and they're like, yo, like, do you think we could get rainbed to sponsor this thing? And I'm like, nah.

realistically they're going for big broad things violence the boxing matches and shit sex with the porn shit streamers shirt they're huge right now maybe like a top top tier rapper or boxer or something but like a BMX dude I'm sorry I just it's not it's not mainstream enough for them it has to have some element of danger to that shit like who would watch a rodeo if it wasn't a possibility of somebody getting fucked up that's a good point

And that's part of why the X games is a failure because, like, it's just not, it's not relatable to people. It's just, yeah, like, you know, like you guys would watch, if I told you, hey, there's a show this guy's going to try to do a triple backflip over this huge thing.

Like, you would maybe watch that. It's kind of like simple enough to understand. But as soon as I'm like, oh, this guy's going to do a front side over crook to kickflip, 99% of people are like, what? Shut up. Don't care. It's too technical.

Over a pool of giant great white sharks. But I've seen it because I've been at BMX events that are in front of, like, normal audiences of people. Yeah. And they're doing crazy tricks over the jumps or whatever. And it's not really like anybody's cheering. And then someone does a backflip and everybody goes crazy. Backflip's easy to understand, you know. Fucking shit, man.

Would you just come back with a fucking sack of alt-oids? He went and apologized. He went in a shake face right now. You went over there. He was like, you know what? Don't worry about Adam. That's just how he is. Tell me you didn't go talk to her.

She left. No, she did. She said, don't worry about it. Keep your job. Oh shit Okay but Keep your job Is like not really

The lesson that she should be learning The lesson she should be learning Is don't go to somebody's podcast And not have a mic And sit on the side And talk loudly And continue talking When they tell you to stop talking

Because if she goes and makes YouTube videos Acting like she was in the right I mean LOL I don't think so Lus texters like I'm about to go in on them She was like

No guarantee Love's like Sorry 22 is crazy sometimes, man. He's a wild man. You can see my text. You're like,

Lennon. I don't want to look through your phone. You could do me like Munchy if you want. But, no, honestly, I was just like, oh,

man, really again, like the first girl I bring over here and she's going to, like, argue with the podcast. Like, fuck.

That was a sensitive subject for her. Yeah. But the good news for her is that all she got to do is apologize. Yeah, no, I don't think it's that big of them. Me?

Yeah, usually that shit. said but he's in a podcast well i mean okay like it's just if you're gonna come hang out during a podcast you can't expect to be able to talk without a microphone off camera during the podcast like almost every podcast ever would agree with that i've heard you say that multiple times have you ever yeah you ever watch joe rogan and just hear some guy talking off camera no because it's a professional podcast you don't do that story of my life basically you know i'll say this like um god gives me exactly what i need but it's not necessarily

What I want and earlier today. I asked God. I was like a. God How me big hummy biggest homey tell me Tell me if this situation is right because it's a little early one It's a little early in sobriety for me to be hanging out with a girl like that So just show me this is a good idea or not And that was your your message right there. I got a few messages I got a few messages. Okay, so you You, that help you conclude that she's the one?

No, it's kind of the one. It's kind of the, oh. Good job, Adam. It's, I wouldn't even say, Nah, I don't, it's, no, it's, it's not a matter of her being the one or not, or it's more like, is it a good idea for me to even be hanging with girls right now? And I thought that. They will drag you in the wrong direction.

But what if they're straightage? What if they don't drink or something? No, it's not even about, like, like, I feel like that might be part of it, But I think that I'm just not really in a place to emotionally to be dealing with females yet. I still got a lot of work to do. You see how volatile it is right now. Like, I still got a lot of work to do on myself.

It's not even about that. It's about how I react to certain things. So how did you react? Well, visibly I didn't, but inside, like I was like I felt a lot of feelings. Right there during that argument?

You wanted to grab a buzz ball? It's not about wanting to grab a buzz ball, although that sounds incredible right now. I'm sorry for even mentioning the word But nah, it was more It's more just like damn fool Like You're not ready yet

You're not ready to be dealing with females You got a lot more work to do You got to focus on yourself That's what we're trying to say How did I come to it? Yeah, I'm missing me bro Because of like the How different things make me feel emotionally

Because I mean if I talked about All the different things That were going on in my It's not a fucking I'm not dough boy This is in a therapy session You feel me So there's no real need to dissect the intricacies, but I just know before the pot,

I was thrown off about some other shit. You know what I mean? And then that was like, ah, so yeah. I had a moment. I had two moments during the 20 versus one because like my brain is still recalibrating to what it is to be single. And just talking to girls feels way different, regardless of if you're trying to fuck them or whatever, because for the last 10 years, if I meet a porn story,

star girl, it's like, okay, like, I'll be nice to her, try to like, you know, get her to think I'm cool so that she'll want to do porn with us on camera or whatever, but I haven't been thinking at all about like, oh, like, could I hang out with her? Could I go on a day with her? Could I hook up with her? Is she somebody that I would want to spend time with that anyway? Now, my brain is hard, is starting to recalibrate to that. And I'm like, one thing that happened during the 20 versus 1 is that there was a girl and she was African American, for the record. and she said, are you only into girls?

Are you into guys too? And I like immediately noticed it in myself that I got offended, which I don't think I would have while I was like really married. And also I started to notice too is like, are you more offended because she's black

and because you know that your black homies wouldn't let a girl say that to them? I don't know how you got there. Maybe I should have spread it out a little bit. There's a lot of, I'm packed a lot. Like, I don't know how, like, so let's unpack that. Why being a black woman, do you get more offended by that? I think that, I don't think that.

Right. Well, I answer that part, right? But because your black friends don't let you do, let them do that, that makes you more offended? I think I was, like, seeing it from their perspective. And I, I guess I felt it as if she was, like, testing my manhood and trying to, like, knock me down a peg in that moment. Oh, it was a jab. You think she was doing it as, like, a jab at you? Yeah, I took it as her, like, almost.

trying to like question like what degree of man I was. So if a white woman does it, it's not like an attack on your character. It's like a genuine question is what you're trying to say? I do kind of feel like a white woman saying it. I would be much more likely to as just being, her being stupid and like just thinking it was funny or something. Whereas this girl saying it to me,

I felt like she knew what she was doing to me and that she was trying to like diminish me. Yeah, that's a sensitive subject with, black men and so you're like, oh, she's testing me, she's pushing. That might be, that might be the thing. So I just smack the fire out. No, you did. No, I did not. But imagine, you know, there's a part of me in that moment. I was like, oh, I got to start being really mean to her. So wait, what did you say to her? I got like a little offended, but I wasn't like super and I was like a little bit like, hey, don't fucking play with me like that. Wait, was she a top-notch

one? Was she one of the bad, badder ones? Or was she a mediocre one? I thought she was pretty hot. Oh, damn. But then like, you know, it's weird. because it's like she don't got no followers or whatever. I'm looking through her Instagram and I'm like, I thought you were hot in real life, but you don't seem to really know how to make yourself look hot consistently on the gram. But then I saw one picture of her and I'm like,

damn, she looks amazing in this picture. And then I noticed that I had the AI thing. But in person. She used AI to make herself hot. She was hot, but it's like. AI or a filter?

I just wonder, no, I don't know. It just had the AI filter. But it's like noticeably like her skin was super smoothed out. Her boobs look. you know the AI filter whatever but no I uh in that moment I was just like but wouldn't that be like finding a diamond like if she was a diamond like finding some someone that has not figured out the

game that's not like that's what it's all polished like she's not super polished and don't have this shit but she might be bad you know what I mean it is two different degrees of like only fans management where on one hand you could try to like find a girl who's already cracking and be like oh she's making 50k I think I get her to 150k I think I get her to 150k I could get it a 200K. But if you got a girl, like this girl got like a thousand followers, so it's kind of like, well,

could I like, does she have what is needed to blow up in general? Because if a girl has a couple hundred thousand followers, you kind of already know that she, like assuming that they're real followers, that she already has like the raw material to be something that could hit. But if you could discover somebody

when they have a thousand followers, that's when you really know that you got the ability to see the future. see what's possible, you know? But is that, that's a factor in your, in your pursuit of single, like, of a woman is, like, what you can do, how you can blow her up, how you can build her. That's it. Oh, we were talking about a relationship?

I don't know. That's different. Yeah, I'm just talking, I don't want to date this girl. I just want to fucking make money over. So the 20V1 is just strictly like, I'm trying to find somebody to make money with. I mean, you make money off the 20V1. Maybe you meet a girl, you sign her, you make money off her like that, get some rainbet reels, make some money like that, you know?

Meta pippin. So there wasn't any element of like get back? To Lena? Yeah. I mean, I don't know. Like if she sees the video, I mean, making out with this girl,

yeah, it's probably gonna be kind of interesting to see how she feels about that. I mean, I'm pretty sure she's, she's not aware of it yet? It ain't out yet, champ. When it comes out,

she's going to find out. I mean, I don't know. It's like, we're gonna find out, like, what can make her, move. What could get some emotion on it? Don't any of you all feel that like kissing is more intimate sometimes than sex?

I mean, that's why that was one of Lennas on the rules. Shooting with other guys, no kissing. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Which some guys are really like not hyped on. They love the kissing. What's more intimate in your opinion? Like plowing or getting top? Like is well, I mean, to me kissing is like way more intimate than having sex for the record. Yeah, I agree. But also like giving head. better fucking. I think fucking is more because

we're sharing in your vaginal fluids whereas like, sucking my dick is like, it's just a dick. It's like you can suck my finger. It's like the same exchange of germs. Who are we talking about that? Except sperm no come out of your finger. I mean, like if it's your main bitch and she cheat

then what you're saying like which one? That's a good question. Yeah, so what, yeah, what's worse if you're made? Yeah, but I feel like Adam's giving away the sauce because it's like it's more manufactured you know what I mean like it's not like just happening in in in your natural movement like it's like a setup of a 20v1 versus like you out in life like living your life and dating and doing this like all this is like kind of like not

not realistic it's like all production is produced you know what I mean like to make to get a real reaction it needs to be you out in life doing real shit but then how would she find out unless it was in some way turned into content. The only way she would find out is if she cared. Right. Like now you're trying

to manufacture caring. You know what I'm not? I'm not trying to do anything. I'm not trying to manufacture anything. Anything you give a fuck about the more for it on, she ain't gonna find out about, believe it. Because he wants his baby back like the ribs.

So like, all the, like, the shit that's like, you know what I'm saying? You ain't gonna find out. What I'm saying is like, okay, you could fuck a girl and just like keep it low key.

That's whatever. As soon as you're like making out with a girl on streamer and a 20 versus one, okay, now you're doing a performance. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. As soon as it becomes a performance is different. I'm not trying to do any performing right now. You know, like I'm not trying to, if I am seeing any girls, if I got anything going on, which for the record, I have not. Still, I'm a church boy. But if I was, I would probably try to like really keep it low-key because I'm not trying to have the world, see what the fuck I have going on.

Did Tim Zico, how about the bushes on you? Man. Did that 20B1 make you kind of like Miss Lennamore in certain ways? Like, oh, like, I'm interacting with all these different girls, but it don't hit the same as like the feelings I had for this for my wife. I don't know. Like, I mean, you never felt like that. Like, after you break up with someone, you're like,

there's part of that. That comes a post nut clarity. Okay, but then there's also, there's also just the realization of like, Oh, right. My life's not over once I've become single or whatever. Like, there's still a lot of great girls out there. A lot of interesting people you can spend time with. Whereas, like, when you're really in that relationship, you really start to convince yourself, like, I'm not going to be okay without a relationship. Like, everything has to be, you know, like, this is what I need to be in.

And if I'm out of this relationship, I'm fucked. And then for me, get out of the relationship. I'm calling, oh, right. Life goes on. I feel that because, like, I definitely, when I was in my last relationship, I felt like, oh, like, I need this. This is so important. And then I actually, I know that I could mess with other girls and stuff like that right now.

And I actually feel super lonely if I'm being honest. Like, I'm very, very, very lonely. But I don't, but I don't think it's me being in a relationship. or trying to mess with somebody is not worth because like what comes emotionally to me from that is not worth it and could potentially make me relapse or some weird shit. Yeah, that's, you're dealing with something other

other than what Adam is dealing with. Yeah, in that regard. That has another layer to it. Yeah, that has another layer. Adam is just not being single yet. Yeah. He's not really being single in the real world. Like, he's being single on camera.

But, and that's the thing too. That's like one of the main reasons why I didn't want to do a 20B1 And so I mean it'll be cool for You wanted to your girl wouldn't let you No I didn't really though because like Because I don't really just want to like be out there fucking about I want to like actually like kick it with somebody

Like I want like a relationship I want that sensation of love But I also know that that's not the place to find it for me Yeah At all What the 20 versus one girls you think are like lower quality Than like other girls? No it's not about them being lower quality

it's not about them being lower quality it's about them having an agenda they want to be on no jumper they want the cloud they're not necessarily trying to be with me yeah it's not really how I felt in the 20 versus one I felt like oh actually like most of these girls

would probably be my girlfriend right now if I wanted to yeah I mean I totally get that and I'm speaking for me personally and even if they would want to be my girlfriend would they what would be the intention behind that would they want to be my girlfriend because it leverages their career positions them better or do they actually just like me what is a girl dating you're really going to get her besides disgust on this podcast i mean i don't know but but but some girls like

might think that they might think like oh shit there's a certain amount of celebrity that comes with lust like to someone with less celebrity you know what i mean but the 20 yeah it's just about leveraging your position however like the fact that he thinks that like he said i think well some of these girls will want to be my girlfriend it lets you know like these bidsies ain't looking to like be into like who you really are. When I was eliminating girls, there was some of the girls like, I got the vibe that they just like didn't care at all because they were just here to get some attention or whatever. And some of the girls I was like, damn, like they really seem kind of bummed like fuck. Like thought we really were kind of hitting it off and I felt fucking terrible.

But think about what you were saying about how like you're going to get a girl, you're going to blow her up. They're thinking about that. Like they're like, fuck. They know I could do that because my like, my, like, with Lena is like the most insane resume ever. Like, especially if the girl does OnlyFans. Yeah. And they just look at me and they're like,

this guy just spent 10 years with this girl. She went from, if they're paying attention, they noticed that she went from literally nothing to one of the biggest porn star girls of all time. And I was the dude who was open-minded enough to let her do crazy shit. If they were paying attention, they noticed that I kind of helped brainstorm a lot of the things over the years, etc.

and, you know, actually got married, had a kid, et cetera. It's like kind of to them, it's like, oh, he's open-minded enough that he's not going to hate on me for the only fans thing. Because that's the number one thing that girls these days have to deal with that they get fucking hurt about. Because every girl, not every girl, but like a huge percentage of girls in L.A. have only fans. And then they all feel like dudes are just like unnecessarily judging the fuck out of them, which they are. You know, we all know how big of a stigma there is. But also their only fans is going to fucking crack. It's going to pop.

Just off of that one thing You know what I mean You know what's getting 20% or more See But so that's a part of the disappointment And that's the on camera single shit Like the disappointment is like fuck You're an opportunity

You're a benefit to them Who's a benefit to you Like that's like where it's your come up Like versus their come up No you're not scratching each other bad And I don't think I really want to date Somebody like bigger than me Or like more important than me

That just feels like such a fucking headache I was like, do you want to be ASAP, Rocky? Especially not right now. Yeah, exactly, yeah. And who even? What the fuck? What girl do I even know that is like, that like they would agree.

It was like, you know, way up here that I even know. I'm not, I don't know enough people in that. I'm not even saying that I'm like so high up in society, but like what girls would, do I even know? Like, it's so hard to make something out of yourself as a woman besides doing some kind of sex work. What?

I mean, it's true. What a skewed perspective. Oh my God, you guys are all laughing as if I'm not just saying the most obvious thing ever. No, but we're in hip-hop. With the least amount of talent, with the least amount of skill, like yes, yeah, yeah. And let's just like zero in on industry, hip-hop. Yeah. Successful male rappers versus successful female rappers.

It's like 99 to 1. It's like almost no female rappers popular throughout the history of this genre. The past few years being the most, right? Sure, but still microscopic. But I'm just saying, then you look. Look at the industry, the labels, all the label guys all day and ours, they're like massively male, you know? Like, most of the women that we know who are famous and, like, respected and big names

in the culture or whatever, it in some way goes back to their beauty. Yeah, for sure. You got, you got Angie Martinez is at a world. You got Karen Civils. Andrew Martinez is not ugly, though, first of all, no, no, I'm saying. I mean, look, I'm talking about females is like in the realm. Talented that's, they're pop and stuff like that. Yeah, I mean, there's.

I think that what Adam said is a bit of an exaggeration, but yes, it's been a male-dominated field, undeniably. But most industries are. The manager and Deb. Deb Annie. I keep saying it backwards. Is that what I'm doing? Whatever.

Dead. Whatever. She kicked off and was responsible for a lot of people careers as A-list. So it's, you know what I'm saying? I know. I'm just saying that's like such an exception to the rule that like the vast majority of rappers have male managers and male ANR and like the means. music industry is just so male dominated.

So girl, Dan, kicked off, loving hip-hop. Is that Mona? Mona, Mona, Mona, Mona. Is it, Mona. Forget her name. Mona, some. Y'all supposed to know this shit, man. I'm trying to think of what you're talking about.

Yeah, her name, Mona's something, bro. But, you know, it's something out there. I mean, like, there is a huge, in 2021, or, like, 2020, there is, like, a huge surge of, like, where a lot of the most popular rappers were female when City Girls' motto, and Cardi and Megan were all at their hike. Mostly manufactured. industry shit. Yeah, too. I mean, that was like the wave they were trying to push.

Manufacture what you mean? You think City Girls is manufactured? Yeah. And, uh, you know, when you look at like the labels just choosing to invest money into that because they felt like, oh, this shit has legs. Dudes rapping, we don't give a fuck anymore. And that's why like nobody has a budget anymore. Even the girls don't have budget same more. But as dudes writing their records, like a dude that wrote almost all the Nicky's records, a dude wrote almost all the Cardi's records. A yachted wrote, uh, act up by City Girls. So like, the hummy skin roll Iggy Biggage record fancy I mean this is the real question is like name a woman who you know who is very very successful who is ugly oh it's ugly

Oprah I would say you know 40 years ago when she cracked off wasn't really that ugly but like she was better now but let's say women under 40 under 40 I don't want to call anybody I know it's a hard question I don't want to call you but I'm just saying that like it doesn't happen that much if you look at at the top female pop stars in America right now. They're all objectively pretty fucking hot. Let me tell you show them, bro. But wait, some of them. Female comedians. That's a good point.

Comedians in general, we allow them to be ugly. But I'm just saying, like, even if you just look at like the singers, Sabrina Carbner, super hot, Olivia Rodriguez, hot, Taylor Swift, kind of getting up there in age. Adele lost a shitload away and got hot. But she got hot, but she popped before

she lost the way. Same with it. As soon as the GOP-1s come out, boom. she's on and yeah Lizzo boom she fell off yeah she got surgery and okay there's this this girl that I've been listening to a little bit named Audrey Hobart and she's like a really talented female white singer and she is really funny really great songwriter she is not attractive it's like the whole fucking dialogue about her on Twitter is like oh she's not attractive she's not attractive like your girls listening to a girl like her audience is not male I'm probably in the like 15% of her audience that's male and then

And like her female audience really wants to have this conversation about her not being attractive enough. I'm like, what is wrong with women? Hey, bro, do you know, like, money make you look a little better minus the surgery? Like if you could like dress your soul, get your hair done, lashes, eyebrows, you're dripping and shit. You're going to look a little better. I think if Beyonce didn't have no money, she's like one of the average pretty females around the neighborhood. Yeah. I mean, for women, especially as they get older, it's like you're not, you're not ugly, you're poor.

Because if you have money, almost any woman can present herself. as being very attractive, you know? For sure. And the fucked up thing is, like, what you're talking about is that that's so fucked up for women, right? But even like only fans, those women are uber successful because of men. Paying. You know what I mean?

Like, look at the WNBA. The WNBA could be uber successful if women supported it. That's true. Well, it's like lesbian, Lollapalooza. Like, they love that shit. But even if moms, even if just regular women supported the WNBA, they could be cracking, but they rather go to the NBA. and watch the NBA and support the NBA

They want to see people dunk Yeah, so like that feminist shit About like oh we want this equal shit Like you can if you support that shit But you don't even support that shit You know it's funny though A man you could be an ugly nigga bro Lone you carry yourself straight you good

If you're an ugly bitch bro you're in trouble That's like you you better have a bag Or But okay this is the thing too though Is an ugly dude Is not going to be shit unless he makes something out of himself You could be ugly as fuck Oh you're a million

You're lit, you're great, whatever. But then on the other hand, we all know dudes who are good-looking dudes that seemingly like infinite women want to spend time with them and they ain't on shit. Man, I know some good-looking guys. I know some broke, ugly homies, bro, they get holes, bro. You tell you all you got, just carry yourself right. I'm like, I'm like shit, I don't know what the fuck. And you got a smash like you got rent to pay.

I realize that from, there's a guy named Leo who does YouTube videos with Danny Mullen. And Leo is like a very good, looking white guy with long hair. He was on a Bachelor. The Bachelor. So that kind of says everything. If you're a guy who is qualified just by being hot that you're on the Bachelor,

you're probably a pretty hot dude. He did get canceled while he was on The Bachelor and kicked off of it. But regardless, through talking to him, I've just kind of realized that like, he doesn't necessarily have the hustle that you would kind of like expect a dude to have in his position as like a YouTuber and shit because his whole life,

he's kind of been able to just like get girls to do whatever. By doing nothing. Girls will do shit for him. Like he could kind of fuck a new girl every night. He's just a hot guy. I have no idea what that's like. I had to work hard my whole life to get pussy. But that's like the pretty girl effect.

Like being a pretty girl, you don't ever have to work it for anything. You're just always going to be pretty privileged. But when they're young, when they're, let's say, between 18 and 25, probably like 80% of girls have some degree of pretty privilege. Whereas I would say that like guys in the same age range probably like closer to like 10 or 20%.

It's like it literally like is inverted. Yeah. So women aren't taking advantage of the pretty privilege in the way that suits them best. They think that in their pretty privilege time it's time to be a hoe. No. In your pretty privilege time, it's time for you to try to buckle down and get somebody because after 25, all that shit goes away. There's all these videos that keep going viral of women who are like 35 talking about like, oh, now I'm ready to settle down.

and I'm ready to have kids and I don't want to, I don't want to compromise like doing the doughboy thing. I don't want to settle down. I don't want to settle or whatever. I want to wait for the right guy. And it's like, bro, like, you're 35.

Like, you don't got a lot of bargaining power at this point. Do you know who you're competing with? Like, you're competing with the whole generation of pretty girls that are in the peak pretty privileged time. And girls have a super fucked up mentality too where they think that a guy needs to make this outrageous amount of money in order for him to be their ideal. partner yeah and it's like if you're a guy you're in the tiny tiny percent of guys who makes

a million dollars a year guess what you're not like dying to settle down with a woman your age like you're probably like fucking a bunch of hot 25 year olds right this 85 percent of women are are competing for 10 to 5 percent of the men yeah and it's those guys are not the ones who really want to settle down and get a nice little house and build a family with you exactly well just like what you said earlier, like once a woman reaches a certain age, if she has money, she ain't got to be ugly. Once a dude reaches a certain age, as long as he has money, he can still bang hot 25-year-old girls forever.

I feel like it's like that forever for men. For sure. I don't ever feel like that's not the case for me. For sure. Like if you are funny, you can be funny and ugly. Or you can be fat and funny. Or men always have the advantage of having another tool or character that could, like, get a girl to sleep with them.

Having money trumps everything, though. Yeah, but that's not the only Trump. No, for sure. It's a bunch of ugly motherfuckers that's got bad. You'll see a fat dude with a bad girl. You won't see a fat woman with the top tier man. Nope.

When do you see that? Never. Barely ever. Historically. Almost never, yeah. Yeah, it's a weird world with him. Because why would you want that? What a big bitch?

Yeah, look, not even like a big bitch, but it's like if you have a choice. I mean, if you're a single 40-year-old guy and you're like doing well for yourself in life, you're successful, you've got some money, you're the kind of guy that a large percentage of women want to be with. You know, yeah, maybe there's some chick, and she's like really fucking fat.

And like you get along great with her and shit. Well, guess what? There's like probably a couple hundred girls you can meet this month if you wanted to that you'll get along with just as good that you would be sexually attracted to. Now, there's some percentage of guys that are chubby chasers. Yeah. Yeah. It's a lame for that.

But I would say, like, and it is going to sound super, like. It's BBW clubs, bro, so you know it's dudes looking for her. Right. They're out there. But chubby girls, they are some of the best personalities. Like, they, like, because they are like, they're realistic in life. You know what I mean? Like, they've dealt, they're the opposite of not getting a position because they're,

they're beautiful or because of this. They've earned their positions in life and they've had to work past things. And so when you do interact with these women, you're like, fuck, I could chill. Like, I could go, like, we could do everything together because they've had to be in the real world doing real things. And I haven't, like, I didn't really experience this until I moved to L.A. Because, like, looking back on it in New Hampshire, there just weren't, like, super beautiful women. You would just, you would move, you know? And, like, in New York, I'm kind of like a scumbag, B.M.X.

Dude, whatever. But then when I moved to L.A., I start going to the clubs. All of a sudden, now I'm around, like, knocking. out hot chicks. They don't want to fuck with me, but I'm around them at least. Yeah. And I start to realize these are the worst people I've ever met my entire life. The hottest girls, like the girls who actually are like nines or tens or like could actually be on the cover of a fucking magazine probably. Scumbacks. The worst personalities and not necessarily bad people, but just dumb, can't figure anything out, kind of just like default to expecting dudes to fix every single

problem for them. They just haven't like figured out any coping mechanisms in life, which Think about it. If you're a 10 and your car breaks down on the side of the road, you've got a flat tire and you pop out and you're trying to figure out the jack. 30 minutes. Me and every other guy. You need to help you on living? Hey, let me get down there.

I don't even know how to do this, but I'll figure out. How to use a jack. But then meanwhile, like, you know, fucking Adele in her prior form, the car breaks down, ain't nobody's stopping. She's doing it herself. And meanwhile, she then gets to become a better person because now she, She knows how to fucking fix the flat tire, which also I don't know how to do that. They always make fun of me for that, but I never had to do it.

Do you think they're better moms? Probably. In general. Do you think they're better moms, better wives, better partners? You know what else they are? They give the way better top. I think everyone at this table can agree that fat girls give them. But again, because they have to.

But all right, but I'm going to say this is that, okay, when I'm at the private school, which I often am, sometimes I look around the room. And I notice that out of all the parents at the fancy private school, an extremely small percentage are overweight. Because what do you do when you've kind of made it in life, when you've kind of like figured out everything in life, you want to eat healthy, you want to be in shape, you want to live a long life.

So like, as much as yeah, I would say like, okay, a fat person probably maybe has like figured out better coping mechanisms in life. It's not always true because I also feel like a person who's really smart and with it and understands like how to live a good life is probably going to also be smart enough to be like, oh, I should eat salads instead of KFC. Yeah, but a lot of those women were chosen by the smart men. True. You know what I mean?

That were established already men that were established in life and they got chose by somebody that was a top tier person. And now they get, they have the ability in time to critique how what they consume and what they do. as where a big girl's like, shit, I got to figure out all this shit on my own. You don't know what I? But when you do see the good-looking guy with the fat woman, you know that she didn't used to look like that

and she got like that because she's having a shitload of kids for this guy, you know? Oh, like the body dropped down. Right, so he'll, you know, he signed on with her. I'm going to weather this storm of you gaining 150 pounds. But also, you probably assume that at some point they would like for her to get a shit together again also. Either that or she is the breadwinner, and she's making the money,

and she chose up on somebody that was not successful. You know what I mean? True. Possibly. Hey, there's some big girls with some pretty faces. Yeah. For sure. And I hear a lot that they said that about the chubby Barbie girl, that if she, like, slammed down,

she'd be, like, cool, cool. She's not ugly. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Like, they say she got a pretty face. if she wasn't shaped like a pair that, you know what I'm saying? But that's what I think

every time I look at her too is just like, this is a waste of some pretty good potential. Because you slim down a little bit. Or somebody do her $25,000 to fix her because can't money fix you now? For sure. But even with the surgery, I wouldn't fuck work based on her she not wired right.

You know what I'm saying? Also, she might have the doughboy flaps if she lost a bunch of weight. A gang could be surgically fixed, though. right? Or what? Yeah, but I heard that like to get your fat trimmed up and sewn up and stuff

that's expensive. You spend like 50, 50 grand for like the upper body. Oh, wow. That's what I heard. Maybe a little less, but it's like pretty expensive. She's that big?

Okay, look. You don't think she's jump by the size? No, no, no. But the kind of females, the engine is the brain. The body is the body of the car. Then even if like you fix her,

body, she's still not wire right, it's electrical problems. So I wouldn't even care to fix the fucking body at a car. Because you ain't a baby to do shit with it. Because she still, nigga, got electrical problems and she, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. And I mean, once you go fat, it's stuff to go back. Like, I remember going on multiple dates with a girl back in the day in New York. Yeah, I just met it up.

But I went out a day with a girl a bunch of times back in the day in New York, I thought she was super hot. Finally, we go to hook up. And like, as I'm just, like, touching her waist, I'm just, just realizing like, oh, fuck. Like, she used to be fat. She's not fat now, but she got, I could just feel it that the skin was hallow loose. Damn.

Which, shout out to her, you know, no hate, but. You ain't going to be my boo because I need something nice and tight to them. Fat girls, we have a fair box sometimes. I don't think it's that hard on fat girls like people think, man. Maybe not in Engelwood. No, no, because big girls, they, they, they, uh, that's a sign of the stability. they did a... They're going to have a sponsor

and they go cook. You got me? They did a study on like, they put these women in fat suits and did like all their makeup and did everything where they looked like a fat woman. Shallow how. And yep.

And they were like broke down by the end of the day, end of the week because they couldn't believe how they're being treated versus how they're treated without the shit when they're pretty and they're like, fuck, this is what... I thought guys loved me for my personality.

Nope. No men are shallow as fuck We like we like sexy things That ain't man It's human Because when you first meet somebody It's the attraction

First Then you get to talk to them Then you get to get the vibing out You know what I'm then So that's across the board Like it's the same thing as That's the same thing Oh you ugly girl come here

Well like let's say you want a bad body If you want a dating app If you want a dating app You might not get as many matches I didn't fuck some big booty bitches that. It just looked like a horse. That's after 11 o'clock at night. That's about one of those like,

I ain't nobody going to know. All right. How do you feel about if you meet a girl and you realize that she got like some celebrity bodies, but they're from back in the day? Like 10 plus years ago. It doesn't matter.

But like, what if they're really funny? The people that they bag? What if Diddy's one of them? Ooh. That's not I'm kind of exaggerant but like I recently kind of had that experience to talk a girl and like

sort of realize like oh fuck you got some hilarious bodies from back of the day. Fuck. I don't tend to hold people's past against them like that and if it's something super off brand like that it might be different but for the most part. R. Kelly and Diddy in the past.

I mean that's rough. Both of them and Weinstein? Yeah, that'd be That'd be a crazy posse cut right there. But for some of the women that were popping back then, that's not like an unlikelyhood. You know what I mean? Like if you were cracking back then,

you might have, Rand. You never going to meet a girl that didn't fuck and get beat up by Tray Songs. That has fucked him. Every girl I ever talked to my whole life has like a Tray Song sex slash abuse story. And or some didn't fuck them, but they got like...

So Tray Sons is abusive from... Well, he's, got a bunch of lawsuits and stuff, so I don't really feel too bad about saying that, but... Triggettray. Yeah. You know, I've talked to, like, infinite girls that are like, yeah. Is he still putting on music, bro? Not like he used to.

That dude could have been the heir to R. Kelly's thrown in one way and then it wound up being in another way. No. No, he was... No. He was super popping, though. He was very close. So, like, 2010, 2011, Trey Songs was that dude.

Trey songs was, like, the girls liked him. He was handsome, like, a sex symbol, but, like, as in, like, real raw talent. No, he's not as great as R. Kelly, for sure. But he's very talented. R. Kelly might be the greatest artist of all time. Can nobody go a versus against R. Kelly and win? Better than Michael Jackson. That's the only one you could put up there with him.

I mean, like, there's a lot of people from previous eras, like the Al Greens and Marvin Gays and Bill and there's in the world. No one of them. None of them. You can't really do a versus between somebody that has three decades before you came out. also what he, but he also produced, wrote and performed all his shit. He's incredibly talented.

Like, we've been forgetting because of the nasty shit that he did how he used to write for everybody and make hits for everybody. No, for show. If you paid R. Kelly, you had an instant hit. He wrote, he wrote songs for Michael Jackson.

Yeah. Like, bump, bump, bump. Okay, so it is possible to argue that R. R.

and B artist and songwriters of all time based strictly on his commercial success, vocal talent, and massive catalog. though claiming him as the absolute greatest of all time across all genres is rare and heavily contested. But as far as R&B, I think it sounds pretty close to. Definitely for modern R&B. Who would you put against him, though? You can't put anybody.

From all old, not just R&B, just like go for a different genre. I'm not even talking. I'm saying, Elvis. No, I wouldn't put, I mean, like you got to go mega star to go against him. Stevie Wonder, Prince. The Beatles. Stevie Wonder is what? Soul.

Yeah. Yeah, these are the ones that would usually be ranked higher. Michael Jackson, Stevie Wonder, Prince, the Beatles, Aretha Franklin. Literally who he just said. Yeah. And R. Kelly 5. He up there, for show, undeniably. Taylor Swift.

You wouldn't put none of them against him if they were, like, do it versus. Yeah, Drake ought to be way bigger, right? It would be a, no. No, because he's got ghost riders. So was. I mean, all these people. Arkellie will watch Drake, bro. Arkelly would watch Drake?

Yeah. Drake's way bigger. I don't know about that, bro. So what I'm saying is, like, talent is about everything R. Kelly did. Like, not just performing and doing it. Like, he did. He peed on girls. He was all over the whole thing.

No, he's an incredible producer, incredible writer. All of the above, undeniable. And has a very vast catalog. In the contention, in the contemporary cultural landscape, Drake is widely considered the greatest and a more successful artist overall. Of course. But that means said a lot of it's because he went to prison and shit. Hey, bro, if that, bro, he couldn't,

with Arkelly, bro. Hit for him. Well, his, I think Drake, I think Drake's fans would choose him no matter. Like, they're going to support. I mean, his accolades spank. You could take R. Kelly's accolades for the, first of all, he was older when he got locked up than Drake is now. Okay, the only way that you can argue that R. Kelly is better than Drake is basing it

solely on vocal talent and self-contained R&B songwriting. Because if the metric for greatness is, industry power, hit-making, longevity, cross-genre, innovation, and career metrics, than Drake is clearly greater. You could just use career metrics. Archie is more impactful than Drake, though. No. All right.

Well, y'all know what the word impact from me. I mean, I just think, Drake has had a bigger impact for a longer. Drake is bigger now because the, I think the industry has changed, right? Like the streaming and this and that, like accessibility. If Art Kelly wasn't held to what going to buy an album, he was still a part of going to buy a CD. True. Correct. Drake dominated both both eras, but also like the whole thing with him is that you have to

look at like Drake's career, which is not over, and then Arta Kelly's career, which is definitely over. So it's like, you can pretty much judge the two against each other, and Drake is like pretty much bigger in every conceivable metric. Now, is Arden Kelly a better singer? Like, okay, sure.

But Drake has bigger hits. But that's what I'm talking about. I'm not talking about just like hits alone. I'm talking about talent as a person. Kells can't fuck Michael Jackson. That's the only argument you have. He can't fuck with Michael Jackson. I mean, he's not a better

singer than Stevie Wonder. He's not a better songwriter or piano player than Steve you wonder. I mean, there's other names you could put up there. He's not a better singer than Al Green. He's not a better singer than Bill Withers. He's not a better. There's a lot of fucking names. Now, don't put the not better singer than motherfuckers because R. Kelly was

a incredible singer, but I'm just saying there's, I mean, like, if he would have produced music more prolifically and dropped more. DeAngelo was fucking washing R. Kelly. The problem was he was a junkie and he only dropped a couple albums. But the whole thing is this. If, if, if, if, if. One thing to say like, oh, this person is so talented.

It's another thing to say, oh, this person is talented and then use that talent to become the most successful artist in their genre of all time. And with R. Kelly, it's like he made a lot of really big records and he might have the best voice or the best, like, vocal ability, sure. But best catalog, he doesn't win that. Drake wins that. You're crazy. No, we just fucking looked it up.

Do you guys want to listen to? But you're talking about Drake rap. I'm talking about in R&B, there is nobody. How are you going to isolate it to R&B when we did not do that throughout this entire conversation? Listen, let me finish. As an artist period. As an artist, like, so Drake has dibbled and dabbled in R&B, right? Of course.

I mean, the huge percentage of every album. Are we, as far as like... Just any thing, the whole game of R&B. Yeah, R. Kelly definitely has... a significant edge in the R&B category. So R. Kelly is significance in R&B, to me, is bigger than Drake's in rap. Hey, when it comes to looking this stuff up, when you're answering data, data is getting entered daily about Drake.

So it's going to be more, you know what I'm saying? It's worse as this door been locked up. I forgot how long now it ain't put out nothing. So he'll crush them when you typing in anything like that. But in reality, Drake not fucking with R. Kelly. So I think Drake would agree to that. How important of a metric is albums? He's got better albums.

Name them. He got more classic albums. More classic albums than Drake. All right, name them. 12 steps. Okay. You got Googling everything else. I'm not Googling shit.

I already Google it. For sure, R. Kelly is considered to be the better, the more talented R&B artists. Most of Drake's huge successes have come from hip-hop. But I don't know. I also don't think us, like, isolating the argument down to R&B. is a useful moving of the goalposts because we were talking about artistry overall. Obviously, if Drake had, like, isolated his whole career down to just R&B, this would be a totally different conversation.

If he had spent all his years, we're going to-in-law. I'm just saying that he's not. No, I'm going on. I'm just saying as artists and what you bring to the table and artists and people coming to you for a hit, then think about all the hits he wrote for people. But that's like using R. Kelly's rapping and comparing it to Drake. That's what I was going to say. Drake is the better rapper than R. Kelly.

R. Kelly rap, too. But the whole foundation of Drake's success is he is a multi-genre, R&B-infused rapper. He's a rapper that was singing his own looks. You guys are talking about numbers and sales. I'm not. I'm not talking about artists. But talking about like just who's a better singer is like it's better everything. Artistry.

But we already isolated like a shitload of things that Drake is better at. He's not better at writing. He's not better at producing. He's not better. He's definitely not better at writing than art. But you have no idea what R. Kelly wrote and what he didn't write. Yes, we do. You can look it up right now. We know what R. We know what he wrote for other people.

If it wasn't for the fact that Drake got exposed. Okay, but if it wasn't exposed at one point that Drake had somebody write some verses for him, then nobody would know that about him and people would think about him just like every other rapper. I'm not denying that R. Kelly's a great writer. I'm just saying that R. Kelly probably had shitload of songs written for him just like any other R&A. But think about Alia. Yeah, the key. Art Kelly is Aaliyah.

Well, no, just for her first record when she was 15 years old. And he never worked with her again. Well, yeah, then after that, she was working with Timberland. She was working with Missy Elliott. She had an insane team. Four page letter is who? That is. That's one of our bigger songs.

I believe that's Kells. Age ain't nothing but a number is very notable. Rock the boat, I think, is going on. That is after. Oh, shit. Guess what? Crip Mac got in an argument with Adrian Bruner. That's what I'm going to bring up so we can stop having this boring house conversation about R. Kelly.

Cribmack confronts Adrian Broner at a stream. This is a super hip-hop. This is a great clip. No, I mean, we can't do a greatest of all time type argument. No, no, no, no. You got a clip for this? Yeah. Yeah.

Because I didn't think he. It's, yeah, well, Cribmac confronts AB and then A.B really like stands on business and kind of makes it clear that he doesn't give a fuck it's pretty intense actually hey we kind of mark the program out all all right check it out crazy crazy come okay the thing I'm gonna say the thing about the thing about the thing about the thing about the thing about the thing about the thing about the thing about the baby mama is like a separate conversation was going on at the same time. Krip Mac's basically yelling in his face, and the reason

why he's yelling is because what was it? Adrian Burner said that Krip Mack fights like he's like a cripple, was his words. So Kripak was mad about that. He wanted to stand on business, but he does relent pretty quickly once Adrian Bernard stands up for himself.

Hey, B, stream on your own. I don't care about that bro. I don't gang man. I don't gang man. You just said, bro, A, B, you just said it was all good. What's going on, bro? I ain't never been under you. Why you got beat with me, gang? What's your proud?

You know what you say? I keep squabbling. My name, don't you say that? What I say? I keep squattling up crippled. Yeah, bro. You got to get to learn to himself. Be fed, sick.

I'm going to chill in and out all the time. I broke it out every time. But that don't mean, that don't mean, that don't mean you know what you're doing. I'm looking at. Shit, I'm looking at your squaboo. Dude, that shit, bro. But I can teach you, bro. I'm just telling you, are you getting mad to me?

Because I'm telling the truth. Your shit ain't right, gang. Like, damn, why you? Why could hate me, though? You don't hate you? You ain't. You don't get me. If we're brothers, then ain't, if we were brothers,

it wouldn't even, even went to the, because when he's saying all that for, no one I ain't even fuck, though. I'm telling you the truth, bro. What I'm saying is this, though, bro. You got to learn how to really get down, bro. That's all I'm saying, bro. But for the record, he goes from, like, you said that I fight like a cripple, and he's

like mad. And then this is like two minutes later, and Adrian Berners saying, you got to get, like, you got to learn to fight. And Crip Mac's like, yeah, yeah. You know, like, he's kind of like just accepting it. Like, it's like, it's right after. And if you want to come to the gym, I got you, bro. Oh, yeah, I definitely just'm trying.

So what you're saying is it's all love, there's no beef. How can I beef with a nigga I don't know? I never said nothing about him. I said, y'all shake hands. No, no, no, no, no, no. See, see, see, see, see. I'm a grown man, gang. I'm a grown crib.

And I'm a grown crib. That's right. I mean, okay, how do we feel about that? Like, is Crip Mac in the right? Is A.B. in the right? Like, I mean, what's your? initial reaction. Maybe he's stood on business, I feel like he didn't he didn't alter anything he said. Yeah. I don't think he had like ever had a problem with Krip Mac for real. He just, I guess was

criticizing his fights and said he, I guess the direct quote was he fights like a cripple. And then Krip Mac confronted him on it and he said, yeah, I did say that. Did he confront him or when he's saying Kripak, he confronted him because of what he heard him. Krimack got in his face. Krip Kvak walked to Adrian Bruner and was like, agent Bruner sitting down. Krimack walked up to him like, what's up basically like what's up with what you said about me the agent bruner stands up and they face to face and agent bonner's kind of doing a lot of this you know what i mean like showing him that i'm not being aggressive but i'm also going to tell you the truth and crickmack kind of throughout the conversation simmered down a little bit with how he approached the situation okay do y'all think that crickmack

believed that he actually have a squabble i think the fact that he has lost like the vast majority of the conversations that he's gotten into over the last couple of like the last year I guess it's probably like pretty hard to deny that at a certain point because even when he says when he's telling him like you don't know how to fight or you need to learn to fight crick max response is i do what i got to do in the county jail like he's just basically says like i've been to jail mad times and i fought in jail and he's kind of saying like yeah like i get that and that's respectable but that doesn't mean you know how to fight i saw a clip of crick mack uh and rampage you should probably watch that too

but rampage is like teaching him to punch and rampage is so frustrated and annoyed by Kripak like not being able to punch the bag the right way yeah he's telling him not to push it and Krip Kempack every time he hits it he's just like pushing it so hard and uh

yeah I mean but what I will say is he lost that fight against Butterbean Jr. Yeah and now he seems like he's taking it a lot more serious like he's but he also he also took another L Yeah, I know, and I got that clip on deck too. Okay.

I think Krip Mac's feelings was a little hurt by maybe what Agent Bruner said. He was bothered by that shit. Do you think it's somewhat like affecting the general perception of him at a certain point? Because don't you feel like Adam at first, a lot of people were kind of intimidated by Kripak? Yeah, and I think that's the problem is that he probably could have got a big payday to fight at some point. And instead, he kind of like did it for free or cheap. And now the market is like more fucked up, you know? I don't know if people were intimidated by Krip Mac.

I saw I was waiting on my turn. Go ahead. My back. Maybe you guys with your like insider knowledge would not have been intimidated by him. But I definitely think that people thought that he was going to be a better fighter than he actually ended up being. Yeah. I don't mean like other gang members.

I mean just regular citizens that aren't involved in that life at all. I think that there is a certain accent that his face tats and just his aura carry. that made him seem like, oh shit, I don't want to fuck with this dude because he might hurt me or have me chipped or some shit. So I think that was part of the appeal of him to do. Yeah, I think there's definitely a factor. I mean, do you think that he would be as popular

if he was just like some tiny-ass dude that acted the same way? Or is the fact that he's big guy. Big dude and all that. I think everything adds to what he is. To the persona of criminal, everything that he is lines up perfectly.

So does... I told you a moose man what it was. It's the tattoo. A lot like that. That's like a Brandon... The iBuster? Yeah, it's kind of like 6'9 with the rainbow hair. You know what I'm then?

If 6'9 never had the hair, nobody would have cared. It's the whole package, though. It's the face tattoo. It's the fact that he's a big-ass guy. It's the crazy voice. It's the ridiculous catchphrases. It's the fact that he, like,

in his first interviews was talking about fighting so much and fighting in prison and stuff. You know, it was like a lot of different things that would have led somebody to believe that he was a good fighter because let's throw it back to when we were sitting here with Brick Baby, when him at Brick Baby first got into an argument and Brick Baby did the big reveal of saying, hey, I lied and I told the people

that you were squabbling with everybody and I didn't include the fact that you were losing to everybody. Brick Baby, when he said that, we hadn't really heard that before. That was like news to us. People was mad on social, on social media at Brick, baby. You're saying, why you, why you're lying, Brick? Yeah, that's bad neighborhoods.

But, like, no, no, not the neighbors. Oh. Where he was, like, co-signing, uh, Krip Mac lies. Like, people, like, was adding him, like, bro, for real, brick. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, the blood niggas, that's cool with him and shit. Like, man, you're out of line. But this is pre him, like, getting fed up.

You know what I'm saying? Well, I think, like, a lot of the appeal of Krip Mack is the, is the dichotomy. It's like the kind of contradictory things where it's like, oh, this dude looks really intimidating, but he likes cats. Like, no one gives a fuck that I like cats because I kind of look like I like cats.

But if you see this dude who's like a big gang member with five, five tat did on his face and killer and all this shit on his face, it kind of makes it more interesting. But then when you kind of remove that veil of intimidation, it kind of hit different. Well, when you hit your ceiling, right? You hit your ceiling of what you are

as the character that you play, right? And you hit the cylinder. There's only so much that that character can do. And then as you're falling down, that's a humbling experience. And it's like, fuck, like, I got the most out of what this was. Now what else is there to you? You know what I mean? And like, that's why I keep saying the pivot has to come

because that aura or whatever you guys said about him is kind of gone. Or he winds up training and actually gets a crazy ass squabowl in charge. Beating shit down. He has to train out of his mind first off to get in shape. You know what I mean? Like I'm not saying it's impossible, but right now it's like you have to become who you really are. Like you have to end in then like approaching Adrian Broner like you said, I fight a cripple. Everybody is saying his fighting skills are lacking.

That's not something like surprising. Yeah. But it's surprising to him because now it's like, oh shit, people were laughing at. at me, not laughing with me. But it's probably not actually that surprising to him because he actually knows how many fights he's had. Like, none of us have any idea what the real number is. But I'm guessing that if he's honest with himself when he closes his eyes at night,

that he knows that he probably took a lot of damage. I know these people and they're smaller guys, bro. It's funny because, like, it's all right, so like a million people could say that, oh, I suck at rapping and I won't care. But if Kendrick's like, yo, you suck. you actually like you you rap like a retard that'll hit different you know what I mean AB's an actual squabler

he's respected yeah that's the problem AB is like so qualified to tell someone if they're good at fighting or not it's like you just have no ability to argue with them at all that's why it is different and like and you can see like Crip Mac uh I don't know it didn't seem like even though he did have like the his intimidating face on or whatever

I don't feel like he really wanted smoke like that even from the beginning. But how do you, like, okay. This guy's correcting us? Like, you can't intimidate. He's saying y'all tripping. CMAQ tried to shake AB's hand. And AB said, don't try to shake my hand. And what's up with you all that shit you was talking about?

So he pressed the issue more than Crip Mac. That's what I thought. I didn't see that in that video. It's hard to hear him because Ray J is talking over him and this shit. No, they ain't got. I think he miced up. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Because it didn't show AB going up to him. Like, CryptMack walked up to him. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just saying, what's up? like trying to be cool and then he was talking crazy on the internet about whatever a b a said but he is the it's the eye hand coordination he ain't what sucks though is that crib mag right now is in kind of the same position that i'm in which is like you you can't really

talk credibly about fighting because the world has seen you lose like for me they saw me lose one fight for him they've kind of seen him lose a bunch of fights so it's like the world and I know because I see the comment section every time that I say anything about fighting even if it's me trying to talk objectively about somebody else's fighting ability the world wants to let me know Adam you can't fight which is fine but when you're Crip Mac and that's like a big part of your identity like for me I don't give a fuck it's like I did a fucking fight as a joke that a bunch of retards took way serious more serious than they should have but with Crib Mac he can't just like separate that from his identity.

Like, it's a big part of who he is and what his name was kind of built on was the idea that he was this hard dude. I know people would think I'm crazy for this, right? And I could tell you what they help him. Go ahead. Give him basketball and have him dribble from this side of the court to that side of the court.

Because he have no hand-in-high coordination, bro. Never commit suicide drills? No. Yeah, they do call him suicide, but not. But I'm talking about with the basketball. Like, I bet you he'll look crazy trying to jumble a basketball. For sure.

I can bet any kind of money and Adam will have to pay up this time. Yeah. Get this nigga of basketball. His footwork would be off and all kind of stuff. The reason why I have very much decided conclusively that I'm not going to fight again

is because when I really objectively look at the things that I'm good at in life, I'm just like not good at fighting or the kind of thing that is fighting, which is like really fast reflex, hand-eye coordination. There's a punch coming for you. You have literally like a quarter.

quarter of a second to duck out of the way. I mean, that's hard shit. If you're not, like, designed for that, you know, that's tough shit. And it really actually makes me think about all throughout my life. When I first started doing an MMA, I was so much more drawn to the jiu-jitsu side of things and the grappling than the striking because I just don't feel like I have that, like, super fast reflex thing. And even with the bike riding thing, I never wanted to fucking 360 or 10 stair.

I wanted to, like, ride the flat ledges or the curbs or whatever, you know, shit that was a little bit more low to the ground, safer and still managed to get a shit. load of injuries while being relatively safe with it. Now, do I think that I might be more physically capable or coordinated than Crip Mac? I would say he's much stronger. That might be a good squabble. And people do keep pointing that out. Unfortunately, I've retired. But I'm just saying, I think if Crip Mag were to really objectively look at his skill set, he would probably be forced to conclude, like, oh, maybe fighting isn't the thing. for me. But it's also he can't just say that because as a gang member and especially one like

him has really put himself out there. It's like you kind of have to like do this thing. So I, the main thing with him is he needs to just consistently train for a long time. But wait though, the like you may not know how to fight as a game member, but if you are fighting, right. There's respect there. You're not running from some shit and you're not avoiding some shit. If you have enough heart to know you ain't got no skills and still go out there and throw them up and chunk them, then there's still a respect there. But in the gang world, but unfortunately we're not, yo, there's a fucking pop-up that keeps going that I'm hearing.

We're not in the gang world, so it's like he's being judged by like the whole world. Yeah, so right now I think it's a good place for him to actually accept this position right now and be like, okay, I am going to train with Rampage and Adrian Broner. And I think there's enough people that actually like Kripak as a person. Like they want him to win and they're rooting for him. Yeah. That they could get behind him and he could build out of that. Like, okay, I'm going to get serious with this shit.

I'm going to get my shit together and almost like a whole character rebuilt. You know what I mean? Like to get out of the comedy into, because now I thought he was supposed to be fighting somebody serious right now too. I don't. I don't think he has. Oh, well, Jeff Fatt. He did not, bro. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, that, that, if he cares about having a in any way, like a respectable fight record, he should not do that fight, right? Because, like, he already beat him in jail. I don't know why it would be any different in a boxing ring. Tip-top shake. But to Rios, bro, he didn't even, he didn't fight back. Really what would Jack, really?

From what we here? Is that the lore? And then, John 5 got on top of him and, like, continued to pound him out while he was on the ground. Pause. But, I mean, the one thing that Krip-Mack has is a huge advantage over Jap 5 is the height, but apparently that don't really matter. And probably the weight, too, although. don't matter.

Different kind of weight. I mean, the height normally would be a huge advantage. Yeah. But it seems like that's been neutralized. The height is advantage if you keep somebody at bay. You know what I mean? If you can use your reach. But if a Jap 5, who is a fighter, is getting up underneath your shit and throwing hooks

and, like, it's easy as a short dude to knock out a tall dude that can't fight. I'm trying to picture a rampage watching Krip Mac fight Jab 5 and how he's going to feel. I feel like he's not going to be too happy about it. You don't think it's two religions going to pay off? Hey, no. Jat 5, not Jap 5. Krimack don't have to fight if he stay out of jail.

Well, he needs money. And I think this is probably like one of the best ways for him to get money. I hate seeing him lose like this. You know what I mean? I don't like it. Help him, Nicky. But now, but he wants to help him, nigga. Anytime my homie was getting whipped on,

I'm hopping in. But he wants to Jap fight. Like, Krimack, for sure. sure could get some fights that he would have a way better chance of winning. Jop Fad is a fight that he has almost no chance. Like really, I'll bet like almost everything I have on Jop 5. So this is all Crip Mac got is just fighting now, you guys? Like that's all he can do is just fight people?

Well, what else is there? There's rapping. Spottyface said he hard. At rapping? Whatever. We can never listen to him again. And then there's like, you know, YouTube, streaming. Like he could do that.

But like historically, I don't know. And then he could do interviews, but that market is kind of smaller than it used to be. And it's not really like, you know, you could do no jumper maybe once a month. Man, if he was on like a while and out type show, I could see him as like a character actor. He could definitely get some legs. There's so much shit. Like, I don't know. If he doesn't pivot, if he stays in his character, he could do a Crip Mac read nighttime, bedtime, bedtime stories.

Yeah, literally. There's like, but in terms of really actually making money, though, like, how big is that? market for him. I don't know. Sent times three. Sorry. Bro, the other day my kid randomly said free brig baby. I love it. I couldn't believe it.

Did she get that from hearing it from you? She must have. But like I was taught because my, my, a family, friends of ours, they had, they had a baby. And Lennon like keeps holding the baby. And she was like making a joke about how she wanted to keep the baby. And I just go, ooh, free baby. And my kid just goes, free break baby. I couldn't believe it.

And I started laughing so hard. and Lennon's just looking at me. Just like, don't laugh that hard. She's going to keep saying this if you laugh that hard. That's a great line to push for you breaking out the trick. So good. I don't know, man. Crip Mac, I don't know what the future is,

but if fighting is it, then go ahead and take it serious and get with A, B. And you got some real dudes that's actually saying that they're willing to help you. You know what I mean? Like, it's not like you're going to be worse after Rampage helps you. All, peep this. Put the screen on camera.

Pretty sure this is the, clip of rampage teaching how to punch. Oh yeah, that's when you get off. Yeah, you get off balance, off callance. Off callance. Of callance. I want you to jab and turn it,

and bring it back to your face. That's all I want to see. I'm hearing it again. No. I did it wrong. You did it wrong. Hit it. Don't push the bag.

I'm not pushing it. You pushing the bag. You pushing the damn bag. Make that noise. Like, ha! Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. No snap. You're going to throw you. Yeah, he's not putting in the body in class. I don't know. Yeah, left. Mm-mm. Right.

Throw that hook. Oh, no. Yeah, throw that hook. Yeah, it's a red customer. Eble to see, elbow cut. Ebo to see. Ebo cut. You can't do that.

He's elbowing? You're gonna do that. You're gonna do it. You can call me Coach Rampage today. Coach Rampagne. Rampay put no effort into that. The fact that, The fact that he, like, bro, I'm not saying I'm a good puncher,

but I, like, understand what you're trying to do when you punch. And the fact that he was, like, so resistant to being corrected there makes me think, like, not only that he, like, doesn't have the raw talent right now, but that also he's going to be hard to teach. Because he doesn't seem like he's, like, picking up what Rampage is saying there. Well, I think it's difficult for him to focus, right? Yeah. It doesn't have to anything beyond just the physicality.

He seems like he's having a hard time. And also being on cameras probably not the best time because he's very aware of the camera. So he's playing too. I don't think you'd be hitting the scene nasty and all that if there wasn't a camera. Yeah. Maybe he needs to focus on Rassler. He would probably do a lot better. Yeah, he'd do a bad because he needs to jump rope and dribble a basketball, bro.

That's what you need to do, bro. It's harder when you're older to develop a hand-eye coordination. Watching that is like trying to watch somebody learn how to ride a bike that's never rode a bike before. Like, have you ever tried to teach somebody out to ride a bite? Yeah. Like, that shit, like, just the basics of shit is just like, it's not even going in their head. It's like, the fuck are you doing? Like, don't do this.

And it's like, you want to yell and get mad, but it's like, oh, you have no fucking foundation of what to do with this. Well, it's like you ever seen those movies back in the day or like cartoons where an alien comes and invades the planet and like it inhabits a human body but doesn't know how to walk. Yeah, it's kind of what it reminds me of. Hey, man. He'll figure it out. I hope so. Before it's too late, I think he should not fight Jet 5. Oh.

That's probably not. That's not going to happen. You see all the, like his people that's a part of his collective, they, they mad, that he even entertaining it. Yeah. I don't know why he would do it. Because they don't want to be a bear's like. I mean, isn't Jap 5 known as one of like the colder squablers around type shit?

Like, he has a really good reputation. I've heard, okay, Jap 5 has had multiple interviews where he speaks in depth about fighting and especially fighting in prison and how dominant he was in there. I don't think I've ever heard anybody question that he was that good at fighting in prison. And then on top of it, from just looking at him,

he's probably the most buff gang member that I know of at this time. Granted, he's very short, but like he's just in unbelievable shape. He's like action figure. I'm pretty sure he doesn't smoke or drink too. But his faculties, though. Yeah.

Like his faculties about, like, if you watch your interviews are watching me interviews. Yeah, he's got a good head on his shoulders. The way he's talking and the way he's, is just a completely different story. You know what I mean? Like, the dude has, is not in the same category anywhere with that guy. Yeah, I mean, I don't know if it, I don't know all like the jail slash prison YA lore, but I know that there is talks about like him versus four extra. know if it actually happened or if it was going to happen or something that sounds like

way more even type shit i mean think about krip mac versus four extra if he still had his hand four extra would have destroyed him the fact that japp five he said he dominated four extra in that or no no no no no four extra won the fight but japp said that he had just fought two people before so it wasn't actually fair so that would be an amazing fight that we'll never get to see besides ai hopefully not yeah Well, I mean, do you think that 4 extra in his current condition would still whip out Krip Mac? Yeah.

Realistically? I think so. I don't even say that to Dissom at all, but I just feel like 4XA probably got that. Yeah. I mean, I don't think that's an unfair assessment. Do you want to see this unbelievably brutal training footage of KripMack, too? So he's boxing with a professional boxer, I believe it's a professional name. Yeah, Arnold Barbosa.

And in this. clip, Krip Matt kind of like empties the tank on him, like goes full street fight on him, like hits him mad times, doesn't do any damage, and then Arnold Barbosa just like hits him with one hit that just drops him

and it's pretty pretty funny. This board with a street fight and a boxing fight. Just know he's a trained man. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.

Woo! God damn. Aged ass shy. What do you say? He's an agon-ass shaw. He's a guy named his girl. He's hating on his girl. I saw other footage from this where he was dissing T-Wra's like to her.

Like he called her the T-word and shit. Like basically he was dissing her hood, which granted, like he has always done that, but like you haven't seen him do that to her. So that was pretty crazy. So. I don't know. But that's just like crazy to think that like they get in fights and dis each other's hoods.

But I wonder if she uses the end word with him. Well, he was saying get your son. I want your son up out my house. Like they were getting into it. For some reason, she was like, don't talk to me like that or stop talk to you like that. He's like, well, I want your son. I've been telling you I want you and your son out of my house.

Or some shit, I was confused by it. But that's the thing with Krimack is that he like, as soon as he gets in a fight with a girl, he starts like burning the whole thing down. Like he just will basically like, he almost like does it like too quickly. Like he'll basically like start saying that like, yeah, like one time he got in a fight with this girl

and then he starts telling me that, oh great, now Adam, now I need to move out of my house. Just because of the, and I'm like, you think that you need to move out of the house because of the fight that you just got in over the phone? Like I guarantee it's not that serious. Well, he's used to dealing with really volatile women And the confrontations escalate really quick.

You probably don't want to go back to that, though, bro. He brung up to me and he thought that the girls will be mad. He said, see, now I got to move out. And he told her and made her mad. And I was like, bro, like, we could have just edited the podcast. It wasn't live. It was just edited and not put it out. He's like, well, I already told her.

I'm like, oh, wow, that's really not my fault. Yeah, I guess there's, I think because he seems a lot more together than he might be in certain areas when it comes. comes, like you said earlier, faculties and awareness that we're kind of seeing the full extent of it and lack there of at this point. Maybe he just needs some people, like, and I'm not even a fan like that.

You know what I mean for certain? But he just needs some people that give a fuck about him for real that really want him to win around him. Because I feel like this is just not going nowhere good. Well, it seems like Lupe chose for extra. Maybe it was a smart move. How? They ain't doing she.

Like, chose him as like a, as our boyfriend? No, not boyfriend, but just like in general. Oh, okay. Just doesn't really seem like you see Lupe hanging out with Crimp Mac that much because I think he's like a lot wilder and like harder to control. Whereas like Forexra's kind of chill in comparison. Like, 4XA might be a little wild, but he's kind of just going to like show up and do what you want him to do. You know, he's not that difficult to like wrangle when it comes to business and stuff.

But I didn't know by checking for four acres. Yeah, but Crip Mac has a little bit of. of that problem too, right? Nah. What do you feel like? Everywhere, though. Critmac is here, here, here, here, near. Do you think, I mean, what do you say?

that Crip Mac's more visible at the current time? Yeah, he's definitely more famous. Yeah, that's true. Because he's letting itself get knocked out on stream. But I actually laughed at Crit Mac before. I never laughed at 4-X-Es. I never heard nothing funny from, I like, I didn't got some laughs out of Crimac. Four-Axious is funny, but Crimax hilarious.

Give me a joke, bro. Give me like a video. I mean, saying Adams, in it of itself is, is damn his speech. Yeah, the way he says things is... Yeah, but you can't give him so much credit for the dumbest shit ever. I mean...

Yeah. Like, but they're two different entities. Like, one is that, and one is the other end of the spectrum. One is like a full-blown... Yeah. Like, bully me, like... For sure.

And then the other one is... Pretending to be one. Yeah, and then the other one is just... Well, Krip-Mack's more of a character. Yeah. By a significant margin. So, like, kind of, I guess, gives him more shelf-life

in that regard? How long? do you expect those energies to last in this? Like people have a sort of tension span. Yeah, well, the internet moves fast. Moves fast. Like, okay, now we're done. Now we're done with this energy.

Let's who's, where's the blood that's like him? Where's the essay that's like him? Now we're done with the Chris and we wanna move on. It's like they've got their. Crimmack is one of a kind. He is. He's just so. He was.

Yeah, but he still is. It's just kind of like the people demand more to keep it interesting. Like, did you see the. clip of him dancing at the rave? See, that's what I love. Just when I thought that it was wearing off and like, damn, like, what is he going to do to go viral? I see the clip of him at the rave.

And I'm just like, oh, yes. A dance. Hey, when he came up the other day, I was thinking I said, man, he didn't put him in a dance contest. That's what I was thinking of the day when his name came up and you say he was dancing a rave. That's crazy. But that is the thing about Krip Mac too is that it's like he realistically is very, very

entertaining and funny and interesting to people outside of his culture, you know? And like, like, the, the Channel 5 video with him going to the Slipknot concert was like, right. One of the best things you ever seen just because it was so funny and interesting to see him at a mosh pit, you know? Even him at your BMX gym. Exactly. Yes. Like he can go anywhere, him at the rave.

People love him at the rave because it's just funny as hell to see him in this environment that he wouldn't normally be in. And then in comparison, though, it feels like he's kind of like going in the wrong direction where it's like, oh, now let's go to the Hoover parking lot. Let's go. Well, that's a regression. That's going, and the thing is people aren't surprised to see him in those environments because that's what people think of him.

They're tired of that. I ain't nobody expect him to pull up in that parking lot, bro. No, no, I don't mean specifically like a rival neighbor. I'm saying in a hood scenario, him amongst other gang members or in areas that gang members frequent, as opposed to him at a rave where there's nobody from his demographic over there or that looks or sounds or acts remotely like him. That's kind of what the appeal is, is fish out of water syndrome.

And that's why once again, I feel like his content with Chinamac was probably some of the best shit that he did. But the only problem with that, it was relying on another person. Yeah. All this content relying on another person. But the other person just has to be like...

It's Amos and Andy. They just have to be normal, though. Like, they don't really have to be like a star. Tramac's not a star. It's just a regular guy. It's like, you know, it's kind of the same way where like me and his energy when we do interviews is good

because it's like I'm pretty normal and he's Crip Mac. But the one thing I will say, though, that makes it challenging is that like lately when I interview him, it feels like he doesn't want to talk at all about like a lot of the stuff that's actually going to get views that like would be pretty obvious to ask about. And then he's just not really like lively or as like funny as he used to be.

And it's like, I get it because I know he's like kind of, he feels he really, really has to hustle to make ends meet. and he's got a lot of like bad shit kind of going on in the background. I'm pretty sure like negative stuff. So he doesn't necessarily like want to get on camera and just open up. But it's kind of like, like this darker version of you is not that fun to interview. With you.

For me. For you or with you. Because I'm telling you that little clip on Vlad taught me a lot. He don't like that you fuck with me, bro. And he brung up Jayhug. Yeah. He got much of me painting by her. I'm like, what the fuck did I have to do with anything?

He said, oh, you still have no jumper? But that honestly was him just like kind of creating reasons out of thin air to like say that because he was just frustrated at that point because I hadn't called them back for almost two months to do an interview. And it was because I just felt like it was getting kind of dry, getting kind of slow. And then I did the interview with him. And once again, I was like, God damn, this feels a little slow. This is a little dry.

He's just not really like being like as entertaining as used to be, you know? And but coming from his perspective. is Adam doesn't call me anymore and he's hanging out with Munchy multiple times every week. Yeah. Imagine you have a new song, a new album, and people are asking you to continue to sing the song from 10 years ago.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Like it should be so easy though. Like his, all right, think about his funny-ass-moment of like finding out little Nas X is gay. That show's fun. I feel like if he was open enough, it wouldn't be that hard to have that kind of moment

pretty frequently, you know? But this is also like Memphis fleet getting mad at Jay-Z when he was hanging out with J-Cole and Drake. Who knows about this? Wait. Memphis Bleak and mad at J-Z for hanging? It would be equivalent to that. It would be like the people that used to that like he was rocking with before getting mad at that. Yeah.

That's a hypothetical. Yeah, yeah, no, no, no. No, yeah. It's completely hypothetical. But that's just kind of what it reminds me of. It's like, okay, you've moved on. doing other things. And at this point, his career is kind of reliant on that infusion,

whereas you don't necessarily need it to the same degree, or do you feel like you do? Well, I would like to be able to, like, for a while there, we were doing an interview every two weeks with Krimack before he went to prison. And then, like, now I just don't know if I got a full interview every two weeks. Maybe. I would like to do that, but he was just kind of have to, like,

come with a little bit more. The one I just did, I'm supposed to always hit two hours with him. Like, that's our deal. It's like, we're going to hit two hours. And that one that I just did is like an hour 26. And it would have been shorter, but he hit me up asking me to delete a bunch of shit out of it. And guess what? I left him on red because I ain't deleting that shit.

And some of it was the Jav 5 stuff. You want to take it out. I'm like, bro, I'm not taking out like probably one of the most interesting things that you said in the whole thing. Like, I'm not going to just cut out 15 minutes of shit just so that it like, just because you like regret something you said on camera or whatever. Like it's just kind of, I don't know, it's hard to get the full, you know, because it's like he's limited. It was like you can't talk about Q50 with him.

Like we did, but it was rough because the fuck does he know about Q50. No. But what maybe if you transitioned into interviewing him in a different way, like not like the not interviewing him as like the same Krip Mac that was the viral. Like as a psychologist? No, like as how do you feel now that you're not viral anymore? Like you're losing like asking him some. He's still viral, but not like he used to be. Like I think you could get a good interview out of him if you got a little bit more serious with him.

Like so depressing and sad. Yeah, no, I feel you, though. Like, there's something there, but it's like, that's, you know, that's like 15 minutes. Then you're going to have to figure out something else to talk about. I don't want to be disrespectful, though, but it, yeah, anymore. It's not sounding promising. It's not sounding promising. I'm like, why would his mom take a picture with Jeff Five?

She was working as the waitress at a restaurant in Vegas, and Jab 5 came in and basically, like, said hi to her, and was nice to her. and didn't, you know, suggested. That was a long time ago, too, right? A couple years ago. Before you whipped his eyes. But I'm saying she asked to take a picture with him

and she brought it to the attention. Oh, yeah, you beat for my son. I guess, yeah, I don't, I assume they had the conversation about the beef and then took the picture. She's a super nice lady. Like, she's a super. Nice thing.

I don't know. Very sensitive. Nice people say hello. Cool, chill lady. I know. That's what I'm saying, limited. Yeah, that's a tough one.

You don't think maybe, you don't think maybe she was trying to like squash the beef I can't broker no piece with it. I think she was probably in her head she was she knows she can't do that bro I mean probably in her head she was

because like she you know I've sat down I've done interviews with Mama Bear before and she's an awesome person shout to her I remember her basically saying in the interview that we did that like she was very supportive of her son and she knew that his

he was super passionate about gang banging and that's what he's into. So, I mean, she would basically give him rides to the set and drop him off when he was young. What I do with broker in peace? Well, okay, I say, I say that to say that she might not have as clear of a perspective as you think if she thinks that that's acceptable in any capacity. You see what I'm saying?

That's how I was reluctant to even like test. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's not like a critique of her. I just think that she might not have an understanding of the gravity of the whole thing. do you have a good interview with crickmack yeah but like i think i totally could have a good interview with crick mag but i but i understood like what adam's talking about doing a new interview every two weeks and having it be super engaging would it get the same numbers of the first one that would be incredibly difficult i mean i did i did three interviews with them and they

got progressively less views you know i feel like the thing with me and crickmack too though is that like our interviews are kind of their own thing because we've just got such a history that it's like there's so much stuff that we don't have to talk about because they already know each other very well so that just kind of leaves us with current events and I guess really I should just have a talk with him because the truth is is that I never give him any kind of coaching but I could probably like coach him into like this is what I need from you for two hours to make this interview better and maybe he would like understand that because like when we sit down the last one it kind of felt like I was just like sitting down with him and I was trying

and he was just kind of like letting me talk and he wasn't trying and that's just like not gonna really work for that long you know hypothetical scenario did he drink it rear he was drinking a little bit but it was early he wasn't like drunk if there let's say there is an interview

with Krip Mac that you did and there was and it was just Trevor it was not no no changing letters or no you're saying you wish there was no if there was like I don't know if he got that in them what do you think do you think that would be engaging

to people do you think people would like be tuned into that But that's what people always ask me. Is there like a version of Krip Mac that we're not exposed to? As far as I know, not really. There's the more extreme version of him on camera sometimes. But even baseline chill Kripak is still pretty like, pretty much. You've seen that version of it on camera. And it's way less turned, it's way more turned down than like a lot of the other stuff you've seen.

But it's still him. But is there a version in which he talks like Steve from accounting? No, that doesn't happen. If that would be, that would probably go up. If I could put on a shy steam mask and change my voice, I'll ask them a whole different line of questions because you don't use that type of verbies in jail. You don't say the DeHuva diss word every other word.

You don't, I'm saying? You don't talk like that. To be fair, he's pretty much been saying a lot of that since I met him. Not always on camera. He used to not say it on camera. Yeah, but people do like alter their dialogue depending upon who they're with and what scenario they're in. Hey, if you walk around dissing like that,

you're walking through the county jail, you're a bad motherfucker. Yeah? Yeah. It ain't being done. Vell was telling me about how he almost had some tuna fades while he was locked up. We talked about it on the blinding the blue. Yeah, I watched it, but he didn't identify or.

He did. He set their names in where they was from. Oh, yeah. Okay. But there was like another guy. From Avalon from Hoover. He had a couple of different situations where, like, he thought he was going to have to fight, like,

some gang members and, like, really run some fades. But then they ended up being like, not you cool. But Bell got stupid hands You'll probably beat the shit out of a lot of people That wouldn't expect it And he probably also knows That that's probably not gonna go so well in there

It turned into a pack out Yeah, that's all bad Damn, that would fuck me up to see Bell get packed out Like not to see it but to know it happened That sucks that somebody just standing up for themselves And standing on bids would lead to them getting packed out But I guess politics

No one's bigger than the program as they say, right? No, bitch, it's bigger than the program Hey, but guess what? I don't believe in it fucking what non-affilius because they ain't from nowhere you know what I'm saying? Like I ain't never been on a shit like that or I mean it's some bully shit on non-affili and fighting not making some

niggins that on game bang fight for entertainment like you know what I'm saying? Like that shit ain't never been entertaining to me. I got a tear full of ops that's bully shit. You feelin me straight up? I mean hey bro. It's Coliseum. Yeah, it's gladiator school. That's a mark sheet. I want to ask you guys about this one. So

Glad and Busy had their falling out which was initially about Boosie trying to get paid more for interviews. He already was pretty much the most highly paid guy getting interviewed in the whole of the culture, tried to ask for more. Black had said he couldn't do it. Boosie hung up on him. They started disrespecting each other. It was going back and forth.

Then recently, Busy, it comes out that he had paid $600 to a lobbying firm. 600,000. 600,000, yeah, they were going to attempt to get him a presidential pardon. It didn't work out. Now he claims that he's suing the guys that were supposed to be helping him. So all this is going on. And along the way, as Vlad keeps talking about him more and more, Boosie starts getting more and more frustrated, more and more fed up,

and tells him that, you know, he thinks he's a piece of shit, calls him out on social media or whatever, which leads to Vlad now throwing his hat in the ring as a snitch exposure. And according to Vlad, Boosie is now a verified snitch. Let's take a look at the accusations that Vlad was making. I have the Gemini overview pulled up right here so that we won't have to watch the whole clip of Vlad breaking it down. But basically, Vlad is calling Boosie Badass,

a hypocrite and a snitch after pulling up court documents from Boosie's federal gun case in San Diego, Caldego, that allegedly show the rapper shifting responsibility for his firearm onto his security guard. According to Vlad, paperwork from the arrest indicates that Boosie told federal agents that the guns belong to, or were in the possession of his security detail,

contradicting his longstanding outspoken public stance as an advocate for strict no snitching codes. Boosley has strongly denied the claims, firing back at Vlad amid their ongoing feud over business and interview fallout. So basically, Boosie's shooting a music video in the hood in San Diego with some guys.

He was paid, I think, 15K or 20, 20K, something that, you know, realistically, Boosie doesn't need to be doing, but Boosey's a hustler, so he's out there in the field. He had a security guard, and at some point, while shooting the video, he puts a gun in his pocket. I don't know if the gun belonged to the rappers they were shooting the video with or what, but he ends up getting a gun. He puts it in his back pocket. He's shooting the whole music video. At some point, one of the guys who's there is on Instagram Live, captures Boosie with the gun on him. The cops do a little search.

They realize that Bussie's a felon. Boop, they come through, they arrest him. And so pretty quickly, he starts saying that the gun is the security guards. Now, I can kind of understand a lot of people thinking that this would not be that bad, that this is him just like throwing it on the security guard because the security guard won't be able to get into trouble for it. Here's the thing. As a security guard, or even just as a guy with a concealed carry permit, you're not allowed

to just conceal and carry any old gun. Right. You are allowed to conceal and carry like two to three guns that you have registered as your guns that are the only guns that you will be allowed to be out in public with. So Boosie trying to put this random-ass gun on the security guard was never going to work. This would be the security guard losing his security license and probably having his guns confiscated and being charged with a serious offense. So Boosie doing that to the security guards kind of fucked up.

But to make it worse, once they get thrown into the cop car or whatever, the cops can still hear him, Boosey starts threatening the security guard and telling him that he's basically going to get him killed unless he takes this gun charge. So does this sound like snitching? To me, I don't really know how it's not snitching. Well, you're also leaving out the part where Boosie had a different version of the story prior to that. Oh, so explain that?

Because it even said it right there, right? Boosie had initially, he didn't say that that's what he didn't say, he didn't say that he told them anything. Now all of a sudden, Vlad is exposing the fact that you, in fact, did tell on the security guard or even mentioned it before he didn't even, he said that he just kept his mouth shut, per my understanding. Do you understand or you heard that? Per my and, well, isn't that what it just said? No, I don't hear that. already what are you ready

you got to put over and try to put it on the security yeah but i don't know why luss is saying that we just read that it doesn't say that right here but um i thought that was the i mean he told various different versions i'm pretty sure when he when he told the story

on vlad he did not at all say like yeah i tried to put the gun charge on my security you know he wouldn't want to have said that you know he was trying to pass it off as if the security actually did have the gun at one point you know but either way i mean to me I don't really know how, like to me, this is a devastating blow to the whole anti-snitching movement.

I don't think he's, I think he had an expectation that they would just eat the charge. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he had, I don't think he snitched, bro. He had an expectation that, you know what I'm saying, he'd a bag and he assumed that, what would take it, you know what I'm saying? I mean, that's what I think. And I'm also going to assume that the, they were the security guards guns, right? No, man, the one, the security guard already already had a registered. he had a pistol.

So he had three switches on how many, bro. But whatever good, boozy had, it ain't registered to the security guard. But I think he had an expectation. That's what, you know what I'm saying? That's what I think. I mean, that's pretty typical of, like, rappers and bosses in the game to think that your people

are going to take the charge for you. And that's part of what you're getting paid for, right? Yeah. But that's not, like, okay, when I hire a security guard, I'm hiring a security guard to follow me around with his gun. And if I do have my gun on me and I'm carrying it illegally, which would be the case right now because I don't have my CCW yet,

then for sure I'm not thinking that the security guard is going to take the charge. Why would this, like, how would that even make sense in the eyes of the police once they run the security or the serial number on my gun and realize, oh, this is your gun? Nobody should have access to this gun besides you. And now you're telling us that actually the security guard was carrying it for some reason. Like that was just not. I mean, this was this was a dude that, um, was facing life at one point, was like convicted already and was already in prison and, uh, had a dude, a teenager

who had already like taken the blame, then untook the blame and then had him take it again, right? Isn't that how one of the reasons he got released to begin with? I say had him take it. Well, I mean, I'm assuming that you think that was in communication or there was house together, which you mean how to me? I don't believe they were housed together, but why else would, why else would you change his testimony? I think, I think, oh, the, the dude told in the beginning, then took you back.

Okay. So at first, like, he had, like, did he have the tattoo? Who's, like, who's next, Bootsie or whatever? Like, didn't he, like, have a whole? And then he named dropped them in the song, like, oh, Marlow, ugh, begging for a body or some shit. Right. And then he took, then he, so at first he was going to stand tall, then he didn't. And then how do you wind up getting exonerated?

No, no, no, I believe he was fucking up in the beginning. Then he switched it up and, like, stood on business. Like, man, you know what I'm saying? And is that kid still locked up? He ain't ever come home. What's your tie in for that to this? Right. No, I'm just saying, like, that's indicative of his character of, you know,

utilizing other people and putting guns and charges on other people and they even though- If they put no charge on that nigga? I mean, that nigger was smacking shit. What you're talking about? Yeah, but I mean, he's, he's paying teenagers to do, gets for him. It sounds bad. It sounds bad. He didn't beat those

charges, but also he almost certainly seems like he did them. People do that a lot. I understand that, but I'm just that doesn't make it right. I'm just, I'm looking at, I'm looking at the overall character. How you put a case on somebody that did he? He did it. Niggia, that little nigga was a killer. Yeah, no, for

sure. Yeah, used to kids being killers, huh? I mean, I've seen it before, but like it doesn't make it right. And it doesn't, I don't, I don't, I never like the predatory element of older people that are respected by, young ins taking advantage of them and putting them to ruin their lives and get locked up forever. Now, people that have nothing going on, older cats have nothing going on, you ain't doing shit

with your life, you ain't putting nobody on, you ain't got nothing happening as organization-wise, that's just you being a coward. Right. But now if you are in a position of stature and you're the guy, you know what I mean, like, hey, go run that bit real quick. But that incentivizes them to do it more. That's almost like adds to your ability to be predatory. Yeah. Like you're getting paid. You're doing shit under me. Like I'm the reason you're here.

And I understand this is all typical. This is like literally the way gangs and structures like criminal organizations in general. You used to be that send off. Yeah, exactly. But no, that doesn't, but I never was into that whole element of it. I always thought that that was kind of sad. My question is, is the security guard calling them a nation? Great question. Wow, that is a really good question. That's actually who Vladne is talk to. And if he ain't, and if he ain't, they got to put that to rest, bro. Because I think he had an expectation and that wasn't what it was.

You know what I'm saying? And where did they find the gun on Bousie? They found the gun on him. In a car. Well, they had the video evidence of it on him on Instagram live. Okay. So that was. Because one of the other dudes was live from the at the video shoot.

And the police was watching. Yeah. It wasn't even Bousie live. It was somebody else live. And there were rumors for a while that the guy who was on Instagram live. was actually working with the cops and had been doing that because they asked him to, which I don't know if we actually have evidence of that,

but there's the start. Of course, Wack put that out there and the dude was cleared of that. Oh, was he? Yes, like, he's still in this community and says something like, they like,

you know what I'm saying? Was that a clubhouse narrative? I think it was a Wack narrative, bro, bro. You didn't hear him, bro, Watt. Yeah, this what I'm saying.

That's like, you didn't hear him, man. No, but he was clear to that. And he hadn't been to the feds, his paper. is clean, his other, like, like, this is a security guard.

Yeah, like, no, not the security guard. The dude, he was on live. Oh, the dude who was filming it. Okay. Because, you know, Busy in the hood doing the video, you're requiring Busy, but in the smaller Busy back, he had a blimp. Yeah.

And the police is already watching this dude because they own him. Yeah. I just, I wonder if Busy, like, I feel like as a felon, you're shooting a music video in a front yard or something with a bunch of guys who have guns on them and stuff. I feel like that might also violate your probation, regardless of if you actually had one on you.

For sure. So they might have tried to pull this trick regardless, right? I don't know. Depends on the stipulations. Yeah, like, like, you, you're supposed to be around or possess. Everybody's stipulation is different. You know what I'm there? But I was definitely a misstep by Boosie, though, for sure.

Like, that was, that was stupid. I mean, that's like, honestly, it feels kind of eerie the way that Boosie left Vlad, and then it feels like nothing good has happened to him since. actually toned like this i mean this is actually directly from blad because flat has decided to put this out there to try to fuck his image up which is kind of crazy aliup that's a aliup right but even like somebody it was shot to vland of course oh shit it was a aliop yeah but i'm just saying like you know like everybody i don't know there's just so many bad things that have kind of happened to busi since all this shit started going down with vlad and it just feels like if anything now busi has

to make his own, um, positive narratives about himself. Like he's talking about, I've been, I've been booked up for the last 27 weekends, academics, I make more money than you in a weekend and you make it a whole month and all this type of shit. And it's just kind of like, these are not like well-sourced. Like we don't, I don't know if that's true. Like everybody says Boozy makes so much money doing the strip clubs and shit. And I'm like, I believe they make some money doing that, but I don't see how you do it

super consistently all the time. There's only so many little cities in America that are gonna be willing to pay you to go to the strip club, right? And haven't you been kind of maxing this out for the last 20 years? People love Boosie. Yeah, for sure, especially in the South. People fucking love Boosie.

Like, he has, like, how we, like, say, like, I don't know. Too short or E40, someone like that. But Boosie as there, he is, people love him. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know how much money he's making, but Boosie making appearance. People love Boocy being that place. I mean, like, you know, you know,

part of Los Angeles is entrenched with Bussey. Watts. Compton Wads and the East Side of Los Angeles. Yeah, for sure. For sure. I mean, there's a whole Louisiana swag out there. Absolutely. East South Central, Compton and Walsh, right?

Absolutely. What was that argument I have with Sputieface or something? He was arguing that Busy is more popular in L.A. than in Florida or something? I mean, I tried to compare him to somebody, and there was a dumb comparison. But I get what he was saying, but it was a dumb comparison. I forget who it was. though. In those areas like, I know in Watts like in the projects

and shit, he's like a fucking religion and all that shit. They love Trill Fam and all that out there. Yeah. South Central. Yeah. But the funny thing is recently I was saying Bousie is way past his peak as far as earning as an artist and then a lot

of people from the South hit me up and they're like he gets paid he's appearing at a different club every week. Now I don't know if that bodes well or against my argument because if he was really at the top of his game, he would be priced out of being, having a necessity to do that. But at the same time, it shows he still is bringing in income as an entertainer as a performing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I mean, I, for my understanding, and I think per most people outside of his

specific region, he's the biggest as just an entity online at this point. He's just like, not really a content creator, but just a character that makes appearances. A personality? Yeah, a personality. Thank you. That's where he's peaking right now. It's not as a rapper. Pools ain't checked. Yeah, he has this, he has a personality, but then he doesn't consistently make content right now.

And he, after Vlad did, like, like, think about if Boussi had never done Vlad, I feel like his fame would be so much less. Like his cultural importance would be so much less. Like those interviews were just kept him constantly in the front of people's minds because of those interviews. And I'm not saying that it's exclusive to Vlad. I do very much think that he could form this sort of relationship with somebody else. But he apparently doesn't want to or hasn't tried very hard too because he did one interview with his like son interviewing him or something. It was trash. None of the clips went viral.

He put it on Patreon. He even put it on YouTube. It's insane. It's like the worst rollout of all time. And I just don't really like, he doesn't seem focused on it because he's so easily could. You just need one person that could come up with good questions and sit there and ask you. Like they don't have to be as good as Vlad. They just have to know what questions to ask.

But well, it can't be. It ain't that many options to be a reoccurring guest would. The only reason I can think of is probably Sean Cotton. Me and Sean Cotton have both tried to pay Bussey to become a recurring guest on our podcast and he has essentially shut both of us down. I'm saying, but who he had a chemistry would like? Because, like, I mean, academics don't gel well with street people unless they rejects. And in acts words, he doesn't, has never paid anybody for an interview.

So that's going to be, I don't think he's going to just start paying Boosy 20, or whatever. Well, if Busy was on more mainstream platforms, like if he was going the breakfast club or something like that, yeah, if you, but no, if that was, if he was solely relying on that, he doesn't get the same clips out of that because it's, it's a more mainstream audience. He can't be as unhinged as he can on places like Vlad. He can't speak the same. So there's really no better option for him. How many more interviews can you do? You know what I mean? Like, how many more of those can you do as an artist? You've already pivoted from rapping. You pivoted into doing interviews. It's current events.

That's why Vlad was only interviewing maybe every like three months because then they would have like enough topics built up to be able to actually have it be interesting whereas like you know if Busy had kept charging Vlad 10K but I probably would interview him every month because like thinking about Charleston White Charleston White probably could do interviews for 20K

he would just do way less. Charleston White bops around the country doing $10,000 interviews and then he'll find a smaller platform that only got five for them or probably less, and he'll do those ones for less or whatever, and he'll do the comedy shows. Like, I'm very inspired by Charleston White

because he kind of shows me what life is like if you just live your life on the go, being willing to go wherever the bag is. Because think about, there's only so many bags that I could get in L.A. But as soon as you're willing to move around the country and fly wherever, because Charleston is not staying anywhere more than a couple of days.

Well, then the negative thing is and you can't build your own platform, and which for you is like the foundation of everything you do. You could, you just have to be smart about doing it mobily. And you couldn't have like a cast around you like, yeah. Not to the same degree or you'd have to be like way more relying on them. I believe if if, if policy was paired off with another rapper, he could have his own podcast. Him and him and him and Webby could do it.

And then if they had the same deal that, uh, Jada and Joe had. Yeah, I mean like, yeah, if he had somebody else to bounce off of him and Webby, him and Webby would gel well together. Yeah. It'd be more like the Jim Jones. Jim Jones and they would need a couple. That's just kind of ass though. That's the problem is that.

I don't think they would be like fabulous. I mean like Jada Kiss. No, no, I said the same deal. Because they got a, like they got a deal and then they got Yeo and Uncle Murder they deal. You know what I'm saying? They got some type of little. But see, these are all problems.

Like the fucking Jim Jones pot with Davies and Fabulous and everything. I've listened to that. And it's just not enough like control of the room. so they just end up going on all these random-ass tangents. And, like, I feel like Jaden Joe is, like, sort of similar. And, like, Bousie and Vlad was so good because Vlad knows exactly what, what titles and what topics he wants, and he just pulls it out of you. And that's what made it so that Bousie could get those numbers.

Like, as soon as Bousie sat down with his son, who has no clue what to ask him, it was just, like, infinitely less interesting, you know? You know, Vlad got the structure. He's a moderator for sure. Yeah. But these rappers turn podcasts. Well, yeah, exactly. One is, because what makes Vlad and Boozy so good is because it's somebody that totally understands the dynamics of potting of content and then somebody that's just wild personality.

It's also understands the other side of it. Right. Right. It's a team thing. Do you think the artist needs the platform more than the platform needs the artist? When it comes to what, though? Like what Boosie? Do you think Boosie needs the platform, needs Vlad?

more than Vlad needs Boosie. I mean, they both, I mean, Vlad definitely doesn't need him since he's been gone for a year. Vlad's, like, killing it right now. But, yeah, I think Boosie needs him more because realistically, Vlad was paying him more than, like, me or Sean Cotton were paying for interviews. And I don't think Busy can do the interview thing on his own.

He's kind of already shown that. Maybe he'll figure it out, but it's definitely not good now. So, I don't know. I feel like Busy needs Vlad more than Vlad needs Boos. Some people need a machine, Marino. That is shit, though. They're not nothing. They need the machine.

They just want to show up, show up, and go. But Boosie could form that relationship with other podcast hosts right now. And it would be pretty good. I don't see it going as successful as Vlad. Yeah. I think you and Sean Con could do it. But who else? I can't think of nobody else.

Well, you know how we've talked about several times on here how, I don't know if you've been in the combos at him. So I'm kind of curious to get your take about how Vlad is on this recent. arc of going becoming dark flat damn near in like an academics esk bag going bad on people and do you think that's because he's having a harder time getting guests or like he's not getting along with them so now he needs to be the centerpiece of the of the controversy himself i think he just realizes that by beefing with people there's not really much negative that can come from it right like you know in theory it could be bad for him but it isn't usually like you know he's beefing with young blue does anyone care no nobody cares

He's beefing with Bousie. Does anyone care? I mean, yeah, there are like Bucci affiliates that aren't going to sit down and do an interview with them. Sure. But I mean, realistically, like, especially because he's like,

came out looking good in so many of these. Like, I think during early COVID, when Vlad was getting like savaged by, you know, all the different, you know, Muslim-friendly personalities that turn their backs on him and shit. Like Godfrey and Lord Jammar. Yeah, I think during that time period, Vlad basically felt like,

oh, I don't want. to be Mr. Super opinionated because it's going to take away from my ability to do interviews. I'm better off if I just keep my opinions to myself and not make shit about me. And then now he's realizing like, oh, actually I can and I can do a lot of views by responding to people. So why not? You know. Stay away from religion.

Religious. Right. Like so it's basically not, like say you, no jumper. No jumper is the platform, but you see the value in pushing your, you know, you're your own self as your brand, right? Instead of just pushing no jumper, like you have to push you, Adam 22, the 20V-1s, the,

just like your shit, Jason Lee. And so Vlad is now pushing himself. You know what I mean? Not the platform, the interview platform. He's added to it, the character. He's become a character within it, and it's like self-branding on your platform.

And somewhere somebody is seeing the benefit and the value in becoming the character and having like having an opinion yeah but i thought glad like back of the day kind of was like off camera like not so much in front and now it's like he just got over that over time you know he just realized that's not like to me putting myself on camera from the very beginning was like a really good idea because that just made me more well known and it made it so that the audience was like going to be like oh you're you're that guy from no jumper or whatever you know and like glad it took a lot longer because so much of his content you can't

can't see him, but it kind of makes this content more universal because it's just a guy sitting in front of a background. It's not necessarily like, you know, it's like the Vlad clips look perfectly good in a documentary. Right. The no-jumber clips look okay in a documentary, but it looks like, you know, them sitting with me. And that's like a little bit less relatable, whereas I feel like now, you know, and Vlad has discussed that.

He's talked about just like being consistently on camera, like trying to. that out and he decided not to I think but uh and I think that's probably a good idea but like think about me and fly we both had the same idea which was let's do interviews and then basically like you know we're forced to look at somebody like act and say an act's idea was not oh let's do interviews his idea was I want to make the best content that I possibly can and I'm going to be the one with the ideas I'm going to be the one with the opinions and everything and I don't really need other people And like that has allowed act to basically become like the biggest content creator. Joe Budden, yeah, he sits with a little panel of his homies or whatever.

But same deal. It's like he doesn't need a guest. And so people like me and Vlad kind of realize like, oh, so we can interview people. But also we should probably like really seek to like be the best versions of ourselves on camera as well because that shit is so easy to do if you can get good at it. You know? Right. And it's it's a benefit there. and like eventually do you think

the benefit there is it that like okay I want people to seek me out as well you know what I mean I want to be sought after for bigger opportunities or things like that like do you think that they're I mean if I do a clip talking about something and I get a million views or if I do an interview with Charleston White

and that gets a million views the only difference is that I gave Charleston White a bunch of money right you know which is like it probably pays for itself if if I was willing to pay him that amount then whatever, but like, you know, it's pretty appealing to be able to make content just by yourself. And really at the end of the day, a dollar is a dollar and a views of you, you know, it's like, I know that he's kind of expressed that he's not as interested in that type of content anymore,

but do you feel like, Vlad, if he wanted to, could get a lot more higher to your hip hop-based artists that are, like, currently relevant on his platform? I just think that mission of like, oh, I want to be, I want to interview Don's Holliver, and I want to interview fucking Kendrick. I mean, it's just, there's nothing there. They're still being careful. They don't want to do interviews. Yeah, that's not, you know, if you want to get a Playboy Cardi interview, I understand,

but like you probably shouldn't, like, base your business off being, like, the channel that could maybe get a Playboy Cardi interview because this is, like, impossible. He's like, the hardest thing you can do nowadays is to get the top tier rappers to do interviews. Like, it's just not really going to work. So I think Vlad and everybody else kind of came to the conclusion that, like, we got to find interesting characters that aren't the A-list rappers. And even, you know, go back to the glory days of Vlad, Like he was almost never getting the A-list rappers.

Same with me. Like A-list rappers have never really wanted to be doing a million interviews. And plus they're guarded with their opinions and their thoughts because of marketing and promotion. Like they have to be inside of a certain box where you get somebody, I don't want to say washed up, but somebody that's kind of past their prime is still chasing that. You know what I mean? And they understand like, shit, I'm just going to go after it.

And I don't have to worry about there's a more freedom to the B or C-Lister. Well, a lot of those guys also just didn't want to go on Vlad anymore because it became, quote, unquote, the federal platform and shit like that. I was about to bring some, like, kind of like closer that up, like, uh, because they still go on breakfast clubs, $1,00 worth the game and they're to shunning shark, you know what I'm saying? That's true, but those are the, the podcast where you can almost 100% know that you're not going to get presented in a bad light, you know, like, Gillian Wallow aren't going to ask you tough questions. Charlemagne's not going to, like, hold you to the fire. Just think of Gilly'd be bringing up some shit, bro. I didn't hear this song, but, oh, they did play. Nicky Monash said, make your ass cheeks quenched like French to my French Montana.

And he broke that up, like, hey, what does she mean by that? Make your ass quenks or something. He said, I don't know. We had a lot of wild nights in that lay. I don't remember I was on drugs back then. I don't know. What? I swear to God, bro, that shit is funny.

You could probably pull it up. I guess him and Daddy was partying and something. He said, I don't know. He said, I don't know. I mean, I don't remember, man. You know, it was a lot of wild nights back in LA. You know, she's hanging out with Puffy. Hey, let me pull it up, bro.

That shows crazy. Does she mean she made him bust a nut? No, I don't think she just knows some background information. She's like, make your ass. She's quenched like French. But the bigger overall thing is just that all of the platforms that, like, previously were known for getting the really big high-profile guests, are not doing so well at this time.

I do not feel that we are living in the era of million dollars worth of game and drink champs. Like they were killing it five years ago or whatever. And after that as well. But like, I don't think that you really hear that much about them. And drink champs, like they're trying to pivot. They're bringing on different hosts and stuff.

I saw I saw fucking coyotes on drink champs the other day. And I'm like, damn, they're on drink champs. And then I'm like hovering over it. And I'm like, shit, these are some other dudes interviewing them. Like they got all kinds of people doing podcasts and shit now on there. Do you think that Barcelona got their monies worth? Because didn't they sign?

Didn't they like give Gilling Wallow like $60 million or $100 million? It was an insane amount of money supposedly, right? I will say that I think Gilly and Wallow are not idiots and they understand the value of telling people that you got a $100 million podcasting deal. But do I think they got a $100 million podcasting deal? I mean, I've looked at their podcast and I don't see where the $100 million would have came from. well the production value is not I don't think it's better than

whatever it's literally it's whatever I mean like but people love saying I was just saw a clip Dean and AB talking about they made $20 million this month or something in six months I think six months they have made 20 mil why would anyone believe that on kick or some shit

what the fuck are we talking about people will literally believe anything did we ever figure out did this might trick DW play well yeah I think we figured that out as soon as he took the Most down. Somebody, somebody. That was P. Nice.

Yeah, yeah. Oh, my bad. And no, he never got an answer about that. So for sure, we still. Yeah, not DWP. Nice. Somebody poured a fast one on them, man. You got tricked.

That's so fucking funny. They tricked P. Nice. And then he just acted like it didn't happen. Just got to give, just survive the week, man. A little catfish. Five the week, dude. Yeah, a little catfish. I'm so pissed off somebody.

Like that, bro. Oh, man. I know, I'm so mad. Oh, shit. You know, they got these fake lottery tickets. And people were like, oh, I bought you a ticket and everybody thinks they won't a million dollars and shit. Oh, yeah, that's not funny.

I don't find that shit for you. That is not funny. Man, somebody gets shot. My girl or my ex-girl told me that at one time when she was a kid, that her dad told them that they were going to Disneyland. And then he was like, ah, got you. We're not going to Disney. That's scandalous.

I'm like, what are you taught? Like, what kind of dad could ever think that's funny? like that is fucked up what the fuck that is skinless that's fucked up that I was like because I always said that she doesn't have daddy issues when I heard that I'm like maybe there are some daddy issues

just deeped inside there because that's fucked did he not follow up and go eventually never followed up with Disney I mean I'm sure she went as a kid but I don't think it was for a while after that no yeah what kind of joke is that though bro do you think it was a financial thing like all of a sudden something came up and he wasn't able to

No, I think he, the whole time, that was the plan. To a kid, that's everything. Oh, yeah, that's telling her, Santa's not real. Oh, man. It's worse, actually. Is that insane? That's fucked up. Still think about that sometimes.

Yeah, but I'm with Monty. That lottery shit, don't play no fucking game. Yeah, I don't find that funny. Yeah, don't play. What's the specific scam you guys are talking about her? You give him a fake lottery ticket. Yeah, and then you fake like you won like $100 million. He's like, oh, my God.

And it's on the TV, like the shit comes? No, you go, but you go buy them off Amazon. They fake like, you know what I'm saying? And you only think you hit. Man, that shit, you get to spend the money you ain't got, d'i. Yeah, that's fucked up. You get the blue-red? Like, what the?

You mean, I ain't rich? I ain't rich. I seen some kids start crying like, oh, shit, we're going to get our own house or this and that. That could be infinitesimal. I got out of like, I quit. White boy, I'm out of here. I'm going to buy that building. Yeah.

Then you're going to have to act like he was just kidding about that. The ideology, I was just talking around. You're saying, man. Come back in like, hey, what's a skate. No, but I know a poker player just recently got got for 50K. And it's like, so it's like a super charming dude comes to him and basically like meets him, forms a little bit of a relationship, starts to, they start trusting him. They start to like, he feels like he's actually cool with this guy. And the guy starts telling him like, I can get you into this crazy poker game that like everybody in Vegas wants to get into or whatever.

So all right, my boy is like getting really geeked up and starting to think like, oh, okay, I have to. really like rely on this guy and like be as cool to him as possible then the guy starts suggesting that we bet on sports and he starts laying some crazy odds and it seems like a good deal and stuff so my buddy takes the deal with the guy and sure enough he loses and he loses a couple times in a row all of a sudden he's he's down 50k to the guy and he pays the guy and so whatever he like you know he doesn't see him for a while after that or whatever and then he starts talking to people and he just to realize this guy does this all the fucking time the exact same playbook but if he loses he just comes up with crazy lies so that he doesn't have to pay him you know which is like

it sounds like such a simple scam yeah to just not pay the guy but like he really like wins people over it hits him with the charm gives him like a real reason to pay the debt right away which is that you're trying to get into this other poker game or whatever and then if he loses he just fucks you over he good I'm like that's pretty good I'm not going to a lot that's pretty good I think he could go to jail for that, though. But how are you really going to prove that this guy owesy 50K? You know, it's not in writing. It's not like...

But the brother that was faking like a 49er went to jail for scamming. But there's more of a paper trail there, I think. Whereas, like, if the only thing we have is that you sent me 50K on cash app, how am I really proven that we had this conversation? Maybe you could sue them in civil court. You could push the issue.

anything over 10K is federal. He could push the issue, but I guess your homie gang gang, he like, fuck you. He should get it back. Well, the thing is is that he really did lose. So it's like it's not like there's any way that he can prove that the guy wasn't going to pay him. Yeah. But then he starts meeting all these other people who say that exact story of like, oh, yeah, like, he didn't pay me. But then like, even in that situation, it's like you're not actually out any money.

You thought you were about to make money, but you're not out money. So you can't be that mad. You thought you were going to win 50K, but now you're just like break even, you're like whatever. But then if you're the kind of guy who actually pays his debts, then you're out 50K because you fucking paid the guy. It's actually so stupid that it's kind of brilliant. But you could only pull it off if you have the swag.

Guess what? Guess what? The guy who's doing the scam? He's a brother. And I'm not going to lie. I think that probably helps a little bit. The cool, smooth, funny black guy, ropes in the nerdy white guy.

He's got the, what's the game? where they have under the ball under the cups. You know, like, oh, man. Those guys that do that shit, like the phones on Melrose. Bro, I used to see people get obliterated on Melrose with that shit. Yeah, but they have the charisma and they have like the showmanship. And one of the first times that I ever was like,

what is neighborhood Crip is because a dude was fucking scamming doing that shit and he got caught or he didn't get caught, but he took $500 from the guy and the guy starts trying to act up and he starts banging neighborhood on him. And I'm not even really knowing what. that is. I'm just thinking it's like some regular gang thing or whatever. And like basically like he would scam these little white boys out of the last fucking dollar. Just if they tried to do anything, he would just bang his head. I'll beat your ass. You want this money. I bet you,

oh boy that got your boy for the bread with the poker thing and the gambling thing, I bet you he'd been to the feds before. Because them's some sophisticated smooth people, they master manipulators. You know what I mean? But the fact that so many people knew about him that, you know, you could talk about and they'd be like, oh, I know, yeah, that's the guy he does that all the time. How's he still operating? Hey, that hot-or-rob thing with the Inglewood family on Rabin-Nose Street Politics, the dude that was doing everything

with him, but he wasn't from my hood. Darrell didn't do, I was dealing with him before they was, and I didn't know he was in the major leagues before. I didn't know he was a professional baseball player to that, it came on like on the internet, right? So, and he was in, in the major leagues stealing watches from his

teammates and shit and that like you know what I'm saying but but this dude have no tattoos clean cut and he on purpose he's a clean piece of paper

because you know what I'm saying and he carried himself in a certain way but he's not a gang member he just hung out type shit he's say he from two peas but I I he was just cool to me

I didn't smell game member on me but he around all of us okay I never seen him around nobody from two peas but like people like him he a con artist bro. Yeah,

he present in a clean way. Damn. Like he clean like don't be the last one you expect that would do it. So you don't even blame him. Hey, the art of finesse is a real thing. You know,

blood or whatever. Hey, what up, Famo? I don't know. What the fuck Famo? I don't know. What up, dude? What a mud? Yeah, no,

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He said, Adam Nolan's friend said he never got on the boat, but the autopsy said he fell off the boat, or what about the deleted messages and get off Drake's nuts? As a person who's not an expert in this case, which I'm assuming applies to you as well, I'm going to put it in the hands of the grand jury. I think that they probably had a better grip on the facts of this case than you were. Did the autopsy say he fell off the boat? It absolutely did not say that.

It said blood force trauma or an injury consistent with blood force trauma. It is so unappealing to argue about something. like that in the public eye because the amount of disinformation is just so fucking insane and not just from like random people it's like the families this fucking ben crump guy it's just it's just there's almost no chance of people getting to the actual root of it don't even get me started on these fucking Cornell rapist kids well that that shit is such an obvious money grab I feel bad for anybody falling for that shit but but this situation the northern wells case I mean like no his homies if you even want to call them that's definitely look like

there's something up with them and I don't trust that at all. Delete it. Yeah, the deleted Snapchats or whatever and messages that. Is that even true? The no liquid, well they had the forensic scientist or whatever and the no liquid in his lungs.

Our stomach or his throat. Which is apparently extremely common. From a drowning incident? Like it just doesn't, you don't necessarily get water in your lungs when you like you don't want us to look it up. No, I just didn't know that. Is it common to drown and not have water in your lungs?

I looked at it up the other day. That doesn't make sense. Yes, it's possible to die from drowning without a large amount of water in the lungs occurring in roughly 10% of cases, which is pretty small. Though major health organizations now prefer the single medical term of drowning instead of dry drowning. Right, because dry drowning refers to typically children, who have a much smaller lung capacity who if they get water in their lungs might potentially die hours after the fact.

Yeah. It's just that you see it so much that like, like, okay, when the autopsy like finally came back and the grand jury and everything and basically said like, hey, we don't think that he was killed. And then the parents are crying at a press conference in front of everybody. It's like, aren't you supposed to be happy

that your son wasn't the victim of a hate crime? that your son wasn't killed? They don't really know. They don't, but that's the thing. Like, we have the system in play, and you don't know anything about what happened to my son. He just disappeared and then just washed up on shore with these bruises and contusions. And I agree. It's mysterious.

But also, it's like, are we supposed to believe that the whole grand jury that featured six black people was racist? I don't know. But they're covering up for a hate crime? I mean, this doesn't seem likely. I don't know if the jury or the jury, what do you call it? Grand jury. Grand jury was racist. But I would say that shit.

is very questionable. Like, who deleted the messages? Well, it's Snapchat, so the messages delete themselves, right? But text messages. I also do think that a grand jury in Mississippi could very well be racist. I don't think that's absurd at all. Six black people. Uncle Tombs?

You think they found six anti-black people? I don't think it's as crazy as, I mean, it's unlikely, but. But I think it's, but then... You think six black people are anti-black enough that they would, like, misleadingly handle their duties as jurors? Let me break some. It's on my grandma,

bro, I wouldn't want her on my jury. Well, I'm my grandson, but you wouldn't want her you know what I'm saying? My grandma, he'll be surprised

on my grandson. You wouldn't want her on the homies jury, basically. Of course not. Yeah. Nolan Wells' friends denied deleting messages

and threatened Ben Crump with a lawsuit. So I'm pretty sure that the idea of them deleting messages in the first place was just like more fake news that came out in the process of this whole thing. My main problem is that it's like,

there's so many people getting so many views of making up fucking total lies about this shit, and then they never have to deal with it at all. There's no consequence, there's no penalty. And actually, people love you because they don't really want the truth. They just want to hear fun stories. They titillate them.

Like, are they want the answers? Like, what the fuck happened to this kid? But once they get the answers, they reject the answers, and then rely on more conspiracy theories because they end up with all of these different beliefs through the process of learning about it. And most of those beliefs are total bullshit,

but then those beliefs contradict with the findings of the court. So who are these forensic teams that are supposedly coming up with finding these deleted messages and saying things like Nolan was... Did that happen? Yeah. And even said it right there. Brings saying I don't know it's a deleting message. Well, no.

Scientific scientists. Yeah, I believe it does. Okay, so some of them, they did not delete text messages, but some of them did unsend messages within a Snapchat group chat. Which is essentially the same thing as deleting a snap. However, they're claiming that they did not. I never had a Snapchat. Says digital forensics.

After like 24 hours or whatever you set up. It's hard to know what you're. Either way, let's say at the end of all this, we find out that they didn't delete any Snapchat. Because even like, okay, remember the picture of them of Nolan Wells with his friends about the pool? and it was like from before this trip and there was a day where like everybody was just acting like this photo of him

at the pool was like so like dogface posted it on his feed and was talking about this as evidence that these kids were guilty and then it comes out like later that day that this photo was from like weeks before they went on the trip together does dogface spent any oxygen at all

fixing his error? No he just acts like somehow it's like a racist conspiracy that he was wrong well I wouldn't go off of the like the dog face shit, I would go off of, like, the news that's just recently posted. Like, they're actually reporting and, and, and, collaborating with the shit that's come out. Well, yeah, I guess one of the message basically is of Nolan also saying, hey, like, there's people here that don't fuck with me, or there's people that seem racist

or something like that was the implication. Wait, there were texts that said that. Yeah. That's what is being stated. That's amongst some of the messages, and I believe it was on SNAP, like him being afraid of or being concerned that there's people here that don't like him or giving him racist vibes. And then somebody else

texting, not necessarily Nolan, but saying, hey, these dudes that's behind us are fucking... Are racist. Our racist. And it could not have been his friend. You know what I mean? Okay. There were cell phone messages where his friends expressed concern that people on Horn Island

could be racist. Yeah. It doesn't really seem like something that a bunch of racist hate crimes would be concerned about. But I'm not even saying for his friends, but if they're not revealing, why are they not saying that? Why didn't they say, like, there was some guys up there that were following us in a boat that were racist, and we were warned about? But that's, like, very specific. This just says that they were expressing concern that people could be racist, not that there was anything like actually racist going on. But if somebody ends up dead, doesn't that bring like, hey, let's look into this.

Who were those guys? But it's not like we know everything that happened. in their conversations with law enforcement. If his, right, well, because that's the thing. If his homies did in fact, in fact, feel that way, why would they not share that information is Rio's point? Why do you think that they didn't? Well, because it's coming up now.

How is it coming up now? The messages that they're saying that they're recovering and the timeline of when it was accessed between Nolan, whatever time, and then the timeline of where the phone traveled to and when the messages were deleted and it just doesn't make sense. I think it only doesn't make sense

in the context of all of this huge flood of disinformation that has happened in the wake of it. I wish we lived in a world that could be a little bit more respectful of the process in which all these leeches

didn't feel they need to clamor all over it and just completely like ruin any chance of there ever being any sort of public confidence in any sort of conclusion. But that's also as a result of the clickbait generation that we're living in, right? That's what I'm saying. But all the people that we know who play into it, who make money every single day like that,

I mean, it bothers me that they do it and it bothers me that there's nothing that acts as a mechanism that could make them deal with any sort of consequences for the fact that these people are making the world a dramatically worse place by spreading so much disinformation on a consistent basis. But that's putting too much. When they're playing off of the divisive nature of people, and especially when it comes to race, that's when it becomes extra problematic.

Especially in Mississippi, you know what I mean, where that does play a big issue. And it could be a possibility that there was no foul play. Well, that's what the grand jury said. Yeah, but that doesn't mean that they got it right. You know what I mean? Like if things are coming out now after the fact, it's like. But what is coming out since the grand jury had access to a lot more information?

then is publicly available. It also doesn't take all members of the grand jury to be racist. All it takes is one or two of them that are able to, if they're influential enough to sway consensus. So if there's a really influential racist white guy, he's able to convince six other black people that they should, that they should vote in a racist way. But it doesn't have to be cool.

But it doesn't have to be racist. It could be just, like, why does it have to be racist? Why can't somebody just kill, kill somebody and try to cover it up because they don't want to go to jail for it. It doesn't have to be. But that's what the grand jury has said that they don't believe that they have any reason to think. But that's also with the Murdoch, the Murdoch case, with the family had the lawyers, the judges, the police officers, and coverage of the that was a, you know, the Netflix with the family. Well, if this wasn't in such a historically racist place of Mississippi burning fame, then maybe it would have a different accident to it. I think

that's why a lot of people are quick to jump on that. They have an untrustworthy history. I got to get more informed. I'm hell of late and stuff. I got to get more informed. I didn't really pay attention to this to like recently because people kept asking me about it and I was like, I fucking don't know. And so I just was looking at the shit from the last few days and it's like,

wait, what? Like, damn, that's kind of sketchy. Yeah, I just think that, you know, okay, five black people on the grand jury. Just like, nobody's going to convince me that five black people were all fucking willing to get in on this white supremac is this conspiracy.

You know, it's a lot of Oreos out there, bro. It's Flakos and Brandy's and she, bro. That many? Bro, especially in the soul. But you, like, how is Flacco and Brandon? Like, you think Flacco or Brandon would be on a jury and intentionally vote against a black person because they hate fly people so much?

I mean, Flacco has made a million Nolan Wells videos about this thing, basically like accusing people of being racist. But he praised white supremacy, right, right, white supremacies though that was flaco 1.0 was flago 2.0 hates racism yes there's been various arcs he had itself i mean i you know i just learned what grifton was honestly i just learned that like a couple months ago yeah grifton good work if you can get it all right let's read some donos ron lawn ritchie said a adam blood stop trying to spare bo dean he did the same thing to me with a girl in beverly hills say the word and i'm on blood on i fg shout out to the mayor

keep bringing this shit up but you don't want to talk about it though yeah i'm not freaking airing anybody out so yeah um jay chason said ain't no way munchy getting beat on and can't defend they're talking about the girl beating you up i wasn't about i wasn't about to whip her out yeah let her live l ground day lobo said w pod lions in the chat for uno stay healthy adam munchy and the native american homie rios shout out to doughboy for not being here Jesus Christ. Mean. Q. Belize, he said, after his tour with Puyah,

can we get a Come Help Glow interview? He's having a little peep type momentum out of the underground scene. Come Help Glow. I got to check him out because I'm not familiar yet, but it sounds interesting. Big Mike Hemie said, I think Adam is the only one that doesn't think the way R&B was touching Blueface was out of pocket.

I think if you actually watch the clip, there's actually no way that you could really think it was out of pocket. She, like, tripped on, like, something and, like, leaned forward a little. She, she touched his chest like this so that he wouldn't fall over. And these fucking psychos are all convinced that she's got something going on with it. That's what you saw. Yeah.

I mean, you watch the clip. If you watch the clip, there is no way that any sane human being good thing that this is indicative of them having sexual chemistry. You're the only person in her settings. Yeah, because everybody you talk to is thirsty to have anti-whack narratives. The whole internet. I'm not going to watch the clip again right now because we did this last time, but I don't, there's no way. I'm saying what the chatter just said is kind of true because I've heard now one person

agree with you except for a way. That lets me know that you exclusively speak to sick of fans because there's no way that anybody could watch that clip and think it looks sexual. The intranet. The whole of the internet hasn't seen this. So who else agree with you that you ran across on internet? I'm not like looking for other people's opinions. I just watch the clip and I have my own opinion.

You're giving Brian Steeler run for his money. You might be able to get people like you're... I just have watched the clip and I don't think that any sane human being could have the opinion that what R&B does in that clip is in any way indicative of her having a sexual experience with her. I mean, I think, yeah, a sexual experience is a bit of a stretch, but I definitely wouldn't be psyched if my girl was doing that. No. If you watch the clip right now, you would not be able to say that because the way that she touches his chest is not in any way sexual. Chest and arm. At all.

You're only saying that. because you don't like him. Chest didn't. But I don't think he was, I don't know for sure he wasn't falling. I didn't see him. He leans forward a little and she does like that to stop him. I forget what Wax said that he like hit his foot on something,

whatever. She didn't catch him. He wasn't like falling the whole way, which is, we're talking about a clip that is on the internet that anybody you can see, and you guys are both, like, willfully misrepresenting it.

The world is. Rios don't even have an issue with Wack like that, for my knowledge. I don't think he's just, they did an episode of the Wackpod where Rios and him Rios kind of like a loud whack to tell stories about himself that we've all heard

like hundreds of times I haven't let the thing is I was looking through the fucking time stamps just like oh no not this story oh no not that story oh my God he told that story oh he was talking about the trucking oh no I had never heard a conversation

like that was my first time he just like is the guy who just loves to tell the stories over and over I mean I was like an older I see myself becoming that guy a little bit But that's what old people do. Yeah. Like,

he's just, he's there. Is that Al Bundy syndrome? The Albundi syndrome? Four touchdowns of one game, but Polkai. Disgusting. Um,

Mr. Pape Tager said, Adam, remember when Lush said they spent five days in jail once? I want to hear about that and how it went. And don't let Nick deflect like he didn't ever say this. Be team,

like hype, subscribe. Yeah, I've been gotten arrested a few times, bro. That's true. Yeah. LV or level 33.

Grand Masons, spelled wrong, said, can we get a timeline on when the moose experiment will end? Numbers and receptions, don't lie. The little chap is a flop. Oh, my God, he just tricked me in the fan. The little C word is a flop. Shout to the north. Shout to my Norteno.

I love you. Unless he embraces his Norteno family roots, I don't see him being a success for you, Adam. I mean, if the Monday show has a problem, I think Moose is probably the lesser problem. Hey, man. I think Moose is doing great. I think Moose is doing good.

I watched the Monday show yesterday. I don't know if, like, can we just continue to allow Do Boy to do this? Like, wait, what happened? Yeah, what happened on the Monday show? Not a lot. Just a whole lot of nothing. It was Moose and Dooboy. And Sir Lance Woods.

And Lance was great, but Toe Boy just. What was he doing? This is nothing. Fuck. I challenge you to watch it, but you're going to be mad at me for making your wish. I don't know. Okay. George Bush said, we get that at a point.

You can't get rid of whack no matter what he does. But will you meet us in the middle and get rid of Ricky at least? That's fair. Oh, my Lord. I fuck with Ricky, man. I fuck with Ricky too. I like Ricky. Shout to Ricky.

Ricky Bobby. That's my dog. Richard Spence said, Ask Lush. Is Chris Brown also pathetic for hitting women? Yes. Him and Munchy Wacked derangement syndrome

is pathetic at this point and even Rios' racism makes him the dumbest comments he still can't name one country singer DV yeah, that was a pretty bad L I'm not a lie

You're like country has a huge problem with that too I'm like name one you go Look this is my Adam take I just know white country singers beat their women That's my Adam take I don't know not one white country singer

But, you know, that's just my opinion. I think white country singers beat white women. Do I think Chris Brown is pathetic for putting hands on a woman? Absolutely. But was it 20 plus years ago? Yeah. People make mistakes. She forgave him.

Like, why the fuck would we not forgive him? I never hated Chris Brown. Him at the show, I was going to ask you if Kanye was at your show. Did he come out at so far when you were there, Munchy? That was Friday. That was in Saturday. That was Friday. Yeah.

What are you talking? talking about? Like Kanye popped out. Kanye popped out. Did four songs at the Usher and Chris Brown concert. Some people were mad because, you know, they don't like Kanye or whatever. Those people can suck huge cocks. Huge.

Nando Baby said, yo, I just went on the no jumper page and I only seen like three different shirts. You all need to put more shit up. Also, drop that fucking cipher already. Shout out to Munchy B team. We're going to drop the cipher next week. 20 versus one, probably also next week. week or maybe in a day or two. We have new shirts

available, but I don't know if they're up yet. They're not up yet, right? Stephen, oh, no. The new shirts are dope, though. We do have new shirts. I was wearing one of the 20... Yeah, they'll be up real soon. Don't worry. We got some new shit. Mr. Paper Taker said, can't wait for the honeymoon phase to be over, and everyone, including Adam,

can realize that Rios is hot, steamy garbage, and hasn't had one good take on a single topic yet. B-Team, like, hype. Subscribe. God, damn. He should have said races for you. Yeah, it's the double R. Yeah, that's the killer. That's the killer. That's the pain to him as like a race hater.

My favorite Samoan he's just just misrace him. No, Native American today. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Native American. That's good. I like it. Dragon Eye Baby Lion said, shout out to Sober Lion. I've been drinking double and hitting the yeah, baby, for you.

When is the cipher dropping? He said, in that Fettie Wap. Hey, the geek for the cipher. It's going to be a fun day when that drops. Do you guys... Yeah, I'm super excited. Is it a date that is going to drop yet? You know when it's dropping?

No. Maybe Monday we'll do it. It would be cool to do it right before this. I'm excited for the fact that Jordy filmed and directed it because he's a really dope prolific director, so I think it's going to look really fly. Versatilion said Munchy, is it true that non-affiliates got to pass up burritos in the county or else they get packed out?

That's anybody who would a trustee job go pass it off. I'm just not an affiliate. I'll pass out burritos any of that. I'm passing out burritos, heavy. Yeah. Come town, send the 20 ball. Shout to him. He said, I know Rios is qualified to build rockets,

but I don't know if he's qualified for conversation about women, respectfully. God, damn. The excuses, though, about the cipher. We wanted to hear your tagalog verse. Filipinos represent. So, down Filipino. Yeah. I love that.

I love that. Queens Filipino. I love that guy on the Joe Gordon, Pod. Um, Comtown also said also fuck Wack 100. All he can do is beat women and his meat. He's still ducking my fade on Comtown. Also, Comtown Seifer incoming because nobody had any bars for me on the No Drummer Cipher. Damn, nobody mentioned Dragonites.

Nobody mentioned Comtown. That's pretty bad. Like I actually like listening to all you guys versus I was like, damn, I wish I didn't go second because I didn't say free brick. I didn't say nothing about Suss or Anna. I just said random shit that I had written in my phone. I personally said exactly. what I want to just say. Take that.

Mine was so off the time. If I could go back in and re-record it right now, I could make it way better, but I'm going to just let it wrong. I just tried to make my shit cool to listen to. Yeah. A. Doe said, yo, Rios, would you stop punning AD from packing Adam out if he got caught slipping and y'all together?

Yo, Munchy, quit thinking you know a lot blood. What the fuck is that? The first part was a good question, though. All right, so pun and AD run down on me. What are you doing? I'm like, get down. it's time to go for what you know break it up right

yeah yeah try to break 80s jaw right yeah I wouldn't let nobody kill you but it's like you know gotta deal with like really most fights I would like try to break it up more than I would try to like be like oh this is my opportunity

to like really hurt this guy you know get them guys hey man this weekend it's gone everybody's gonna get their shot oh that's this weekend yeah

they go be there huh everybody probably go be there We'll be a lot of people there for sure. Will Central C. Kets trap Lord Ross slipping again. Speaking about on the ends, thumb.

Remember how viral that was at that time? Yeah, that was... For sure, I might have something like that happened. That was a moment. That was great. Okay. Jay loves football said, you lied to us, Luss.

The last recorded person to interview Malcolm X was Gordon Hall three days before his assassination. L. Stolen lawyer. Your dad said that he spoke to him on the phone the day of his day of his... death, right? Yeah. Not that he was the last person to interview him. El lost media. I don't know. I don't know.

Comtown said, I was with a 304 the other day and that recent R. Kelly song came on where he was talking about them taking all his money. Shit almost took me out of it. Okay. Talking about like girls taking all his money? I ain't up on the song. Me neither. Yeah.

Yeah, exactly. Dago Stunis said on I-FG, Lush, Pished me off so much yesterday. He fucking says, no, not me, not 4-0 at the end of bar you mud butt shit stain hashtag it's my birthday happy birthday but e40 does say before that 9 10 11 and up if you if she bleeds you get fucked no not me not 4 oh i beat a bitch down with a two by four i don't i don't think that really takes away he said that how many years ago in 95 i don't we're talking about like the all the lines and it was like a list like them you know what i'm saying

yeah and i don't see how that line doesn't qualify adam was here i think well we did that we had And we kind of had another iteration of that conversation. Well, I wonder if E40 has ever commented on that. What's the song called? It's called Riding Sideways. Ever commented on? Somebody says, It's a different time.

It's a different time, man. Riding sideways? Yeah, riding sideways. Yeah, riding sideways. The baby licking to come up. Who was that? Wait, what? Hitting the pregnant broad and busing and the baby licking to come.

Which one was that? Lush. You remember? Wait, baby licking. Hmm. Was he pregnant and then... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I guess there was an interview where he had to speak on that song

and his breakdown of the song for Complex, focused strictly on the production, the creation of the baseline and general Bay Area slang, meaning of riding sideways. It's a great fucking song. I love the record. I just always thought that line was super sus. That's pretty crazy that he never had to speak on it.

He just avoided it and it just went away, I guess, mostly. The fact that I'm the only person that seems to have a serious problem. with this. I mean, it sounds pretty nasty, but also it's like, shit, 9-905 a long time ago. Yeah, I mean, like, I still love Foti. The norm back then is way... Oh, I thought that B-LU was kind of crazy for even saying, oh, only 16, but way too right. And then 40 says age ain't nothing but a number. I mean, keep in mind that around that time, Jerry Seinfeld had the biggest TV show in America and he was publicly dating a girl who was in high school.

So, he had a 17-year-old girlfriend. What? I'd never heard that. But what's that in New York? She might have been illegal. I mean, he probably lived Actually not in New York Probably here So it probably wasn't Yeah, the line you were talking about

Is was a UGK bar Yeah, you doge guy Yeah, yeah Another legend I was wearing a pimsy shirt When being disgusted by that It's a lot of Squirtle Pyru

Which by the way That's trying to start Like a new movement Squirtle in front of stuff On Piru Munchy see me In Palat Town Me and Wack

Pulling up With the Dix In the Escalade And firing at will Squirtle pyroo is hilarious. Can't you just become a blastoise or a war total? Like you should evolve, bro. He hasn't evolved yet.

Life is about evolution. Jay loves football said Drake is only as stand alone as he is because music itself has gone to shit. It's pathetic. He's the metric at 40 years old and we are all cooked. Music is dead. He does have a point. There is some truth to that. Yeah, there's a little bit of truth to that.

Think about all the good people that die. That would be like. Just think about how many less stars. there are now. It kind of feels like the stars that we have now are just left over from this prior generation and that we might not really have. Like fast forward 20 years, Drake, Kanye, Taylor Swift, whoever, they're all kind of out of the picture. They're not like huge. They're not the biggest artists anymore. Will there be artists that like replace them? It's kind of hard to imagine sometimes. There has to be. Someone's got to say there is a huge void. There is a gigantic vacuum.

But post Drake and Kanye, there hasn't been artists anywhere near as big as them. And it's been almost 20 years. Well, yeah, like a lot of the people that were supposed to step them into that role are no longer with us. And then others wound up falling short of the expectations of their trajectory. But people dying should just like open the door for other people to take those spots. Well, yeah, because even before like a lot of the dudes that died, like the juice worlds and XXXs who were going to occupy that space, even before them, Uzi never really got. as far as he was supposed to.

A lot of these dudes never really got as far. Yeah. Adam, we are friends. This is the official kingfish. We are friends in Pokemon Go currently in a group challenge together. Let me know if there are any Pokemon you are looking for in a trade. Hey, buddy. I'll check your list out.

I'll make sure I add more people to my list. But I might be occupied because now I talk about Pokemon exclusively with Big Boy from Outcasts because he followed me back after me talking about him and Pokemon. So that was pretty exciting. That's funny. He said he's level 60. He said he's level 60. He said he's level 6. I'd hit him up.

Be like, I'm level 80. Oh, shit. Don't play with me on. Just a little flex. Sorry, man. Flecks. That would be so tight if fucking, if Big Boy comes on the podcast one time

to talk about Pokemon. The whole time. He was just at the sofa. He performed at the Rams. Oh, nice. It has often occurred to me that Pokemon Go is a game that realistically, like, almost no famous people would play

because it kind of involves going out in public. which hasn't stopped me but it would make sense for like normal famous people I guess well shit for him to be at a 60 that's pretty but those dudes are so ridiculously down to earth

like an outcastle I mean Andre 3,000 is probably like playing the flute at Venice Beach right now like I bet if big boy puts on a Nike tech that he can walk around like relatively undisturbed just a chunk it's just a neighborhood

you know I just pointed out that the Malena artists don't leave Atlanta they'd be spotted everywhere I could I he probably in the rissy area in Georgia walking around playing Pokemon Go he's just posted up in Buckhead And what was the last time you heard somebody say I can't stand big boy from out Never never have I heard that word that phrase uttered in my life But Andre said that behind the scenes she doesn't we don't know anything about what their

attention is yeah got to be something but creative differences From Pire said Adam you was a ring girl that wasn't a fight you was too scared get hit well it's still a fight even if the other person doesn't swing back you fucking moron come town said shout out to munchy the mayor got the fire blue sweatshirt on today i see always got the hard fit shut the fuck very tricky that's hilarious uh flowing plowing said lush got pooky of the year instead of rookie that's pretty funny i like that except for like a pookies a device that you use to smoke so it rhymes with rookie i do like uh big mike hemmy said i don't understand how vlad and wad continued to do

This is with 6-9 when he is a documented pedophile, which, by the way, I will say that, like, there's a version of 6-9's child sex charge that he always told over the years. And, like, lately Flacco has been on a bit of a war path to, like, tell people the real version of that story. And the version that Flacco's putting out there is not in any way similar to the version that 6-9 was putting out there.

So, and that's my boy, I'm not, eager to throw dirt on him, but my own going to do some pretty good reporting on that. The truth is the affidavit that he saw and he told the truth and then, you know, he did what he had to do. Did all his obligations and then he had to register. Well, yeah, and there is video of him, right? Like slapping the 14 year old girl on the butt, right?

Yeah, he posted it on Instagram. Oh, shit. And he was pretty young too, but I think he was past 18. He was like 19 or 20 or something, I think. Weirdo. Yeah, not good. C Hustle 8748 said Wack Adam and Vlad on a campaign to discredit Boussey

We're going to always ride with Boussey over you cowards Well, that's good to know that you don't have a mind of your own Thank you for actually writing it out in text Can you show the screen for a second? See Hustle wants everybody to know He does not have a mind of his own He can't think for himself He is entirely committed to Bousie

Almost as like a Jesus-like figure And obviously that is very cool To not be able to think for yourself That's how you're right for Drake? No, I just side with Drake on many issues, but there's many things I would not. You guys have Boosie derangement Central. I think we would have to talk about him a lot more. I honestly think it's the intent, and he had an expectation, and it wasn't that.

You mean, Boosie? Boosey. Yeah, I mean, you couldn't have set yourself up to be more of the anti-snitching guy than him. He canceled his project with T's. T.I. Because T.I. Talked on a podcast about how if his friend died, maybe he would put the charge on him.

Not that he did it. Just that he may be won't. Put the charge on you. But, but, bro, tell it on the dead. It's not snitching

if you're not getting nobody else in trouble. I agree. And Rick Baby said the same exact thing. But the whole thing is that it's not like T.I. did it. He just talked about the possibility of doing it. And that was enough for Boussi to cancel their project together. So once you were willing to go, go that hard, I mean, yeah, you can't just like tell the cops that your gun was your

homies just because it was a security guard. Well, Bozzy, I got a song with Bozzy and I should. I would, he's going to yank it off streaming services. You know what you got to do because I, hey, but, nigga, you can't come back from the dead and do this time. But the thing, all right, two things, one of two things has to happen. Boosie's career has to be irreparably harmed by this, or we have to accept that all All the people in the music industry who claim that they're anti-snitching are full of shit. He's not snitching, bro. Did he respond to that text?

Did he talk to this? Did the security guard say that? That's what I want to hear from. The security guard didn't want to take a gun charge for a gun that wasn't a missed. No, no, no, no. Is the security guard calling him a snitch? We haven't got to that yet. I texted Vladian and responded.

You said that was a good question. We got to work on that, though. We got to talk to the security guard. But also, it doesn't matter if he calls him a snitch because if you snitched, then he's snitched. No, no, no. But I'm telling you. Miscommunication, bro. I think the miscommunication was Boosie telling the world that he was anti-snitching,

when actually what he meant was I'm anti-other people snitching. I am pro-myself snitching as soon as it's convenient. I don't think that. I don't think he told him he told him. Well, he did. It's clear his day. He told him security guard. All right.

The rule will start changing real quick when it's one of your face. Selective policy. If you ever seen the quarterback try to hand the ball off, but the runner back go to block and he dropped the ball. Like, bro, it's a, bro. See, even real gangsters start making up convoluted sports metaphors to justify snitching once it's their fame. Exactly, yeah, yeah, that ain't going to work on me.

That ain't going to worry on me. Y'all ain't even on the same page. Like, like, I know, but look at how much you're willing to do to cover up for somebody snitchin just because you like them. I want to know, I want to hear from the security guard. But why does it, why do you have to hear from the security guard? The security guard could lie. No, no, because the security guard by, like,

Like, bro, you had it fucked up. I wasn't about to do that. Like, I get where you was going. Most niggins is expecting, if you're to bag, somebody around this month about to take this here. It's the charge. You're supposed to take the charge. No, that has to be discussed beforehand.

It's not like your day one homie that you already had that conversation with. It's just a security guard. Security guy wants to keep his job. He wants to feed his family. Boosie definitely thought that that dude was way more with it than he was. That's what I'm saying.

He thought something. You might have said he was going to take care of him. So he's snitched on him. Let me ask you a question. What makes you think you could say this is his gun and the public just believe you off the rip? Yeah, stupid as hell. Without him knowing.

That tells you that he thought the nigg was going to be with the program. So, yeah, so he flip-flopped. You got to make... Okay, okay. But then once he realized that the guy wasn't with the program, he threatened to kill him if he didn't take the gun charge in front of the cops. Not in front of them, but...

Yeah, they heard it. It's in the police report that they heard it. It must have been recorded. It was recorded when he was in the back seat. I think they heard it like in real life. Like they were standing like kind of near the car and they heard him threatening to kill him. So to me that threatening to kill him lets me know that.

Okay, maybe Bousie thought that this guy was really with it like that. That's what I was saying. But then it becomes clear that he's not. So instead he says no, actually you have to or I'm going to get you killed. Boosie and San Diego with one security guard I don't know How much money he cost himself By making this bad decision

Yeah don't take that 15K for the feature Ever again Because now he probably spent a million Because he spent 600K on trying to get pardoned How do you find that one security guard Another couple hundred thousand on lawyers I mean and now everybody knows you're a snitch He ain't hire the right people

Yeah like I got a I'm not covering enough for nobody I just want to hear from the security guard security guard feel the same way like you know what I'm saying instead of like man is a misunderstanding so if the security guard says

yeah he told on me you'll then Bousie you're at me I mean if he if he feel like he I mean I'm about to argue with him he don't want directly involved but I think it was a miss whatever word I just been using for the last five minutes

I just I feel like we saw the end of like I feel like a lot of the people that fuck with Busty they won't talk shit about him but they won't fuck with him going forward I just seen too many different scenarios and situations we're like you know what I'm gonna be but if people do keep fuck with them

that kind of lets us know that they don't have any integrity. Takashi 6-9 has snitched shit. He has PDF shit on him, and people still fucking with him. But not people in the rap game. Like, people go fuck with Bousie. Because they're hypocrites. But the thing about it is that the people that fuck with 6-9 are people that are not in the streets.

There's almost nobody in the streets that fucks with 6-9, aside from somebody like Wack, who's able to justify it, who's not in the streets. But, you know, he's from a gang. So he'll say, oh, well, he didn't tell him me. and like the gang is at fault because they were allowing this dude to run around with them doing shootings and stuff

but like as much as 6-9 has made huge inroads with like being cool again because all the streamers fuck with him he just is not like it's not like anybody in the rap game is fucking with him. Coda Black did a song with him and it was like months of hell afterwards

and he dissed him on the song and nobody cared. Yeah, nobody cares. No Adam what you said is true but it is also selective politic right because if much you wound up doing the exact same thing as six nine and that came out then he'd be like oh this guy's a rat yeah exactly from pyers said r kelly wrote from michael jacson winnie hosin dion the isley brothers brittany spires lady gaga john legend etc sit this one out adam i didn't say that he didn't write for other people so i don't know why you're trying to those songs that he wrote for

them hey selene dion that that's kind of crazy i'm saying i just say and i was impivit that he's the better artist that's all i was in uh see hustle said Vlad has watered his brand by chasing cloud now whack and charleston white is his brand he don't get no good interviews no more uh Vlad actually just had his highest viewed month ever so who is he who's his guys now what a lot of variety yeah but a lot of charleston i guess a lot of his own shit a lot of the busy and nori drama probably helped you know how much is that also on the heels of him just having an ever growing and expending catalog and like the catalog doesn't do that much in terms of views you know It stops eventually.

You know, the buck stops here. Yeah. I've seen what my channel starts to turn into when I don't post and it's not too great. Not pretty. I mean, it's something, but it's not. It's not like the idea of like, well, I'm going to make YouTube videos for 10 years and then I'm going to sit back and just coast and just gobble up that sweet, sweet ad revenue. Honestly, that seemed like more of a real thing in 2016.

But now people are consuming very. of the moment stuff like there's no old video in the youtube in the no jumper catalog that's getting more than like a thousand views a day that's like over a year old hey but i don't think so the q50 shit got some good yeah i'm talking about like old videos oh yeah i think like sometimes when we re-up something it might do something i'm gonna say this that the hematized well hey clip go always go it's go that's what i was thinking about shit like that because that's always gonna be that's gonna go viral again every few months right well okay i i i stand corrected because the one exception to that,

like the King Vaughn interview in the last 48 hours has got like 3,000 views per day, which is actually crazy. That's actually like, it's just such an outlier. Like a King Vaughn interview in his prime is just like such a rare thing for you to get. And just because I'm curious. Damn, what a short-lived. I know.

Got some talk from this stripper bitch. In the last 365 days, the King Vaughn interview has profited $4,400, which is actually insane. Yeah, that long after the fact? Yeah, but that's just like such a huge exception to the rule. Q. Dizzle said, I love that Draco shirt, Adam, on B-Team. Very funny.

Alex Crote said Gabe Brooks would rock Crip Mac and so many others. Yes, and he would have had reason to rock Crip Mac because he was from Trouble Gangster Crip. So shout out to Gabe Brooks, my homie. Long love him. Rest in peace. What about Garth Brooks? Very funny.

That was really good joke. Really good pun when I'm eulogizing my homie. Lush, always with the good jokes and the good timing. Munchy's Rayban said, Adam been way more racist after the whole Jason love thing. Very funny. Jumble 05 said, grand jury doesn't have to be unanimous. And five out of 23 is not half of the jurors. I don't think I said it was half, but it was half non-white.

Dragonite Spaz said They didn't give the grand jury All the info that was actually available But W. Rieke W. W. Rios respect every morning W. Munchy, W. Lion Always W. N.J. Appreciate that, man.

That's right. C. Hustle said, so Adam the only misinformation So Adam the only misinformation has from the Nolan Wells side Not even close to knowing what sentence he was trying to communicate there. I'd just say it was instead of has.

So Adam, the only misinformation was from the Nolan Well's side. Well, I think when you look at like his side, where you have disinformation experts like Benjamin Crump and Al Sharpton, and then you have on the other side, law enforcement, yes, I do feel like law enforcement was getting, was much more committed to the truth. Like Officer Tatum. Officer Tatum, honestly, I will take Officer Tatum's version of this over Ben Crum. I would love for him to get on Bram race. Officer Tatum? Yeah. I want some like to fuck him. Any like 50 or something? Hall pass monitor, Tatum.

We didn't. It is ass. But I think they were saying that you weren't talking about the misinformation from the other side. But what is the misinformation from the other side?

I don't know of any. Yes, I got to get more informed. Shout out to B. Busy B-Frey for the 20. Appreciate that, man. Comtown says, shout out to Rios.

He was in hieroglyphics, not the rap group. I mean, on the pyramids. Scorpion King, headass. Yo, that dude is funny. and for some reason just has his sights set on a few of us. I fuck with Comtown. Chase said,

Moose is worse than Doboy. He brings nothing and is the most monotone, boring potter. El Ricky, Adam, you've been hating black since Jason Love piped LTP. Nothing could ever make me hate my black brother's friend. Just because I'm willing to be critical of certain famous black people like Benjamin Crump. Does not mean that I hate all black people. And I would think that you would understand that if you weren't a retard. I don't hate him.

I just think he's full of shit. Yeah, he's just fucking a liar. Richie Vids said, Adam, please only put Ricky on one day a week. I haven't been able to watch it. If he's on, he makes everything unwatchable. I've resorted to watching a day in L.A.

I don't believe you. Please, I beg of you, Master Grand Mason. Day in L.A. We should have a day where we, like, somehow, like, torture Ricky or something. We're like, something like to make the fans like him. Because, like, they just hate all the time.

You want to haze Ricky? I mean, is just something? That's an interesting point because I noticed when I feel like the fans started to kind of endear themselves to doughboy a little bit once they felt like he was being bullied by us. Now I feel like they're just going to check that. Dragon Night Spat said the fact that no one shouted out the clan is not that crazy. But get Kenny on camera more. W.Cas, W. Moose, stream every night. Catch Ricky and Am. What clan is he talking about? Because he didn't spell it with a K.

He spoke of C. Wuchang? That's the only Klan that I could think of with a C is pretty much two clans the racist one and the rapper ones

You're either cool clucks or Wooten But what conversation would have About Blue Bucks Yeah The fact that no one shouted out The Klan What kind of What conversation

We had with Wutane Would have been in the We're talking about Like the greatest groups Of all time But I don't really think There's much of use In comparing Wu Tang clan

To like R. Kelly and JZ and Shia Hold on Hold on The Wooten got some Some suspect lyrics Is that what they're talking about? Oh.

Oh. Do they? I don't think so, right? Maybe they're talking about smoking crack and dust and shit like that. ODB has a wild. He said crazy shit, but it was ODB. So when I was a kid, I kind of thought ODB was like a real homeless person. Like you might have just been living on the streets because he seems so, he was like a hundred times crazier than every other rapper that seemed a little crazy.

And I think he was crazier than what we thought he was. Oh, yeah. Because we didn't really get that the drugs were like really eating them alive, I think. Yeah, we didn't really even know how like, really. he was like that crazy shit was really who they was like really skeptical and scared to put him with mara i was going to interview his son and like he wound up canceling last second and hopefully he popped back up they have a a group now of all the sons of the fallen rap stars right there's like little easy little o db and some other ones rick is in hell a part of it as well i don't think he is

and if he was suspect would be front row ready to slide Richie Vid said Adam I literally go through a mental psychosis when I click on the No Jumber Live show and see Ricky please if you won't fire

limit how much we have seen him We have to see him The news was so good yesterday man Yeah I like I think Ricky's great Ricky's a good American man Busy B-Frey says shout out to Adam Munchy in the T-Mack interview from a year ago and go to 30 minutes 45 seconds to spot

It's fucking hilarious Keep up the good work y'all I mean, he sent 20 bucks for us to do this, so I guess I gotta fucking do it. T-Mack, interview it is. T-Mack, that's my boy. Dominatrix, homie. Yeah, we gotta get him and Brian Pumper up here.

T-Mack, no jumper. Brian Pumper is a goat. And they said 30 minutes and 45 seconds. We've got to get to the full one, though. These are just the clips. Full interview. It thinks that Crip Mac is more important than T-Mack. That's, ironically.

I don't seem to be able to find the T-MAC. Age restricted? The title says some BDSM shape. Oh, that's a good point. BDSM, put that in the title. Hmm. Well, it showed me TNia and Nova before it showed me T-M-W-W-W-W-W-W-T. Wow.

That's crazy. Jeez, Louise. I feel bad that this guy gave us 20 bucks and then we can't find this, but maybe I'll just Google it. T-Mack, no jumper. Who is T-MAT? He's a dominatrix that Munchy met in an Uber. Hey, no, he called people I rock with him to this day.

That shouted crazy. Oh, here it is. You finally got it. Okay. Do you remember the minute? 30 minutes and 45 seconds. Okay. He's going by my face shots.

Or it's something of all black niggies that size does. Yeah, any pictures I have, because usually on that, when you got those type of profiles, you have pictures and videos of your experience. showing what you're doing to women. Right. Basically, when someone, you could tell somebody, they can read your profile, and you can say, I'm this, this, is that, and that.

But when they see it, see the actual proof, that lets them know, okay, he's serious about. Hey, look, where the website for the fetishes, they don't want to, a blind, like, like, like, you know, no, no, no, where's that, though? Why don't you get so geeked out? cheeked up and it was a stand-up and kind of pull his dance up and ha ha ha that was the same dance he was going on the ghost he wasn't fucking playing you're not joking like where the fuck that shit at where they had

you want to know it's crazy though knocked the hold of this up I was on the internet and then I ran across some shit it said Crip joj uh joins law enforcement then goes down for robbery why that was talking about him there's talking about two names Team Mac? Bro. Wait, really? Bro, they said Crip. Because he went,

he went out there to, what did I say? Fuck, the state aren't important. You know what I'm saying? He joined law enforcement after, like, college, you know what I'm saying? And then he quit because of the unjust

out there came back out of LA and was hitting Licks and went to jail. And I read across the story. I said, hey, bro, this is you? What he said. Oh, here, there you go. You told me about the freaking part. He told me the real shit.

Oh, he didn't talk about the gangster shit. He probably doesn't want to fuck up his image. No, I know the gangster shit. I didn't know he was out there playing. But I put it together, but I'm like. That full was one time? I'm like Tyrone something. I'm like, bro, this is.

Then it said that the community he's from, like, this is him. That's amazing. You might need to spend the block interview, bro, again. No, no, I'll be out of more time. I'm going to get him and Brian Puber up here. Oh, my God. So many people have been sending me Brian Pumper clips lately, which at least makes you happy to not in jail.

I saw him crossing the street in a video on Instagram. I've seen the same reel of him crossing the street like 10 times. No, he's on a bus a lot. He be on a bus. I know. And like, I don't know why he's so scared to doing an interview. He'll be on a green line. Honestly, the only person that says mysterious is Brian Pumper is Dooboy.

They both have a variety of different, like, weird things going on that you can't really explain. Different arcs. Yeah, well, we know how Brian Pumper got his money. But bro, I seen them yesterday, pressing a dog boy about the Kevin on stage thing, wouldn't say shit. And that's like the same reason why. like Brian Pumber won't do an interview. Like, I don't know why, but they... Something they're hiding.

It's mysterious, yeah. I mean, it could be as simple as what Moose Man exposed is it just being like, he didn't want to be around him because he was drunk too much. That's what Moose said. I mean, having been around, Doe Boy, for almost a year, yeah, I could totally understand someone not wanting to do a podcast with a bit more. It might be the best move you ever made. He'd been up from there.

Yeah, he's doing amazing. Lush from IFG said, let me tell you something about Munchybee, and that's on a dead homie, went to Washington homecoming and was in the stands and walked out that motherfucker and none happened to cut, which they always say this, but now it's funny because now it's lush

but from Engelwood family saying it. Richie Vidd said, Adam, because you won't fire Ricky, I assaulted my granny out of anger and seeing him on screen. I spent one month in county jail. Now I'm just getting out. It's your fault.

I ran four feds, though, and held my own. These are my confessions. They should have got you 50 years. You put your hands on granny, bro. You don't do your grandma like that. That's elder abuse. Over Ricky.

Yeah. Great man. Masonic Sigma. Shout out for the five bucks. Quinton Woodson said, Boossey has a song with a whole informant, Facts from Springfield, Illinois. I wonder who that is.

I don't know. From Springfield? I wouldn't be surprised. Somebody he's done a... Oh, he's saying he did a song with a rat. I was saying, like, for sure over the years, somebody that he did a podcast with...

If you have the bag, you can get a Boosie feature. You shoot him like... Yeah, $15,000. Yeah. I did a cameo for a fucking pedophile the other day. How you know he's a pedophile? Somebody told me,

I still don't know if it's true, but like, I did the cameo for 40 bucks and then somebody just hits me up and says like, y'all that kid, that dude, rapes girls. I'm like, oh, damn, man,

it's already done. No, you can't undo it. All bad. Now you got to send that. I knew that was a possibility when I started doing the cameos, though. I knew that was going to happen sooner or later.

I was thinking more so, like some obshaw that request, like, yeah, say some tube of shit. Like, yeah, I don't know. That's funny. Um, okay. Masonic Sigma.

Great show to the member tonight. To the members. Off topic question on the show, the drop. Would you play a character from your enemy's territory for the right amount of money or is that a line that you'd never cross? I don't know what the drop is. The snowfall, man.

That problem and Oh, it's like a new version of it? Yeah, it's the after snowfall, they're in like the music game. Yeah, it's like a rapper that's going. As a hip-hop platform, you need to be watching that dude. Isn't buddy? I've been saying.

that I wanted to see Snowfall for like five years or whatever. It's a spinoff snowfall. I would watch Snowfall. Actually, you know what? I watched like the first five minutes of an episode and then I I got bored. I can easily play a crib in a movie. Easy. Yeah. Put some makeup over monster right here.

You know what somebody said to me the other day? They were like why do you like black art more than white art? I'm like, that's not true. They're like, well, you do a podcast about a rap? I'm like, yeah, but I'll take Seinfeld in the office over a fucking living single and Martin. Over Martin? all day. And also there is no way that you can argue that Martin is better than Seinfeld.

Office is my favorite show. Okay, good. I'm just saying, like, I don't think anybody could argue that Martin's better than Seinfeld. I like Kirby enthusiasm better than Seinfeld. I disagree, but I can understand the argument. No, that's like the evolved version of Seinfeld. But Seinfeld is classic. I still think Seinfeld's so much fun here because every episode of Curb just feels like one long drawn. And where Kramer at? He's still alive.

He's still around? I don't think he gives any work. Adam knows where he's. He's at the damn meeting. He's at the same meetings. I don't know exactly where he is. No, I just read about him over the years and shit. Yeah. All right.

Well, Martin is number one. I put top five black comedy shows of all time. Martin number one, Fresh Prince number two, Sanford and Sun number three. Notice that all of these are like unbelievably old. The Cosby show. In Living Color is five?

And then in Living Color. I'll take in Living Color over Saturday Night Live. Don't kill me. How does the Liverpool? I could binge watch Fresh Prince. Yeah, Fresh Prince is enduring. It's still like relevant to this day.

Yeah. And Moisi. You know what? It's coming to mind as like the best modern black show I can think of. Atlanta. That's a great show for sure. I never finished it,

but it was so fucking good. Let us fire. Okay. Top 10 black black TV shows in general of the last 10 years. Sitcoms on. I didn't even a thing.

No more like that. No, yeah, yeah, no, for sure sitcoms are pretty dead. Okay, Atlanta's number one, so I ace that. Insecure, never seen it, never heard about it. That's Issa Ray. I got to check that out. I don't know anything about that. I don't know who the fuck Issa Ray is.

Abbott Elementary, never heard of it. Watchmen had no idea that that was a black show in any way. HBO is about Tulsa, Oklahoma. Oh, it starts off with Tulsa, Oklahoma and the Black Wall Street. And that's how that happened in the comic book originally as well? Because it's based on comic book, right? Yeah. Yeah, it is.

Oh, okay. But I don't know how true it is to the comic book, but that's how the show starts. Interesting. And then Snowfall, I may destroy you. The fact that there's so many shows that I've never heard of is strange.

Surprise. Power ain't on this. When they see us. Yeah, it should be. Power should for show be on there. Pea Valley Pose and Queen Sugar. I'm going to say I haven't heard of more than half of those. I heard of P Valley for show.

Yeah, I've seen P Valley. That's the gay show. Yeah, it was a strange. about some shippers. It's a strip club show, but the dude that owns it is trans. Oh, yeah,

okay. I, uh, I was very partial to top boy, which top boy is fire. I assume did not make the cut because it's based in England. But one of those shows was British on this list, but yeah.

Oh yeah, you're right, right. But I also think, I think this list is a bit skewed because there's no, half those shows are not bigger than power or empire for that matter. But maybe power and empire, I don't get like the respect.

Maybe not. And also, I feel like empire is like before the last 10 years. Possibly. Yeah. started before that for sure yeah but it was still on in like 2015 yeah but maybe they wanted to start with shows that started it's possible you know um okay we're almost done here i guess i was yeah over 10 years ago dn civilians sent 10 bucks thank you man appreciate it shout on moses says shout

out to nick j kitten sitting like a good little boy as your boss yells at your bay this is where your old cheating ex meant when she said that you weak to be fair to be fair that's just the home girl and uh we you know that's just my friend and uh she was was kind of tripping she's yeah i mean i had no desire to be mean to her be negative in any way that was not like based on me already having negative feelings or i would talk to anybody like that if they were talking without a mic during a podcast yeah and then also combating you in yeah and then try to argue with me she'd been chilling for like a few hours and everything was cool i think that it was just a moment she was cool she just don't know how to act so you know probably just not used to this environment

type she's she's a fiery latina yeah i know that's shot shot's a baby girl I don't know a baby girl But I'm just not trying to die She's a woman Okay and then C Hustle said They just said 6-9 a PDF And right after that you said that's my boy L-O-L-L-L you weird out of

Listen I'm in the rap game People make mistakes And then they move on in their life Listen okay okay Here's what I would I would cut 6-9 off If I thought that he had in any way

had sexual relations with a child. Okay. If you have a case in which, like, as far as I've known, and maybe the details is different, but he went to a music video shoot and there was a girl that he didn't know who was wearing underwear and shaking ass in the music video and that he was in the music video

and I think at one point, like, gestured towards her or whatever, or maybe smacked her ass or something. He smacked her butt. either way. That explanation, if that is true, is a pretty killer explanation because you're saying that you had no knowledge that those girls underage, that you yourself were extremely young. He says himself, he says, I posted it on Instagram.

Would I have posted it on Instagram if I thought that this girl was underage? Obviously not. I found all that pretty compelling. But what did Flaco say? What did Flago say? You said Flaco had a compelling case on it. I don't like to see what Flacco say. He breaks down the paperwork, though.

It's somebody else that blasted it, but my thing with that, the dude that's blasphemy is you had a falling out with six nine. So how long have you known this? Oh, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? All of a sudden. But if 69 story is way different from it. Do I think that 6.9 is a present-day creep towards underage girls?

No. Well, he went and got up on another underage one, but was saved because he was in the right state. I never heard of that. Yeah. Really? Mm-hmm. Hmm

Interesting Purge man The PDF purge And also Also Per the previous comment Adam was kind of right For tripping on my ex too

Because look how that turned out Man He didn't really trip on He wasn't yelling That he's a Oh you said your ex Oh that's your ex Oh no

Not not heard today Oh he said your ex Yeah Yeah I mean He was a fitness for you bro He felt he was getting better I felt like he was trying

To be a good friend to the best of his ability. You can fed up. I was like very pro-germ for a long time because I thought that she was going to be the person that was going to be most likely to make you stop doing drugs or at least do less drugs. But then she starts saying,

we give him them drugs up here. Yeah, she started saying that, which is not true. And then she also started beating him so bad at one point. He couldn't go to work for a week. That was really when... I'm sorry.

Is that true? That's when I said, okay. Yeah, it is. This is not okay. Hey, no, I laugh because I heard of him. He's... I'm like, I feel like the Lus one

The way my bitch would be beating me What was that noise I'm laughing at a bunch of y'am Did you go for something, thing? No, it's just like It's because In golf is sick He's like

Oh shit I'm Bro, free zern No, I wish I could I wish I could argue Oh shit Freezurn Um

Shadow Moses said Hey Adam You're still saying chimpin out We know you had a grand old time Saying in front of your Val your token black friend just wasn't sharing. Why they told me that?

I do feel like it's fair to make a joke that involves the terminology chimping out if it was funny. I think that's really the standard. I hold almost everything, too, is that it's got to be funny. No, the only way you could do that, and it's a joke, you're trying to make it a joke, is if you're balanced across the board and you are willing to do that by everybody. Well, yeah, I'll admit that I think that the bean slur is pretty funny. if used in the right context.

You know, I think I said fag earlier in this episode. So, yeah. A cigarette. Right in England, not so much here. I feel more like, you know, yeah, like everybody's, like, offensive stuff should probably be, like, used for comedy at some point. I had never heard of the word into, like, a couple days before.

The Chet, the Builder. Like, no, I was, I'd never pay the ticket something. I heard it, like, at this table. And then a couple days before there, yeah, I heard, didn't I heard that at this table. I didn't know what the fuck it was. Probably it was bad timing. What?

Because it was so soon, like, did. Was that like a, like a, uh, it was like in the midst of that controversy. And he was telling a story of when he was hanging out with his homie and said it in front of him or whatever. And I made the joke about how when I said, oh, my God, we're chimping out. And I, like, looked around to make sure it was there. And then everybody used that as if I was being super serious as if I give a fuck, be like, you looked around because you were worried about people were going to think about you.

I'm like, no, that was a fucking joke. and now I do a podcast for a bunch of assholes who can't take jokes. And so that's great. I love that. That's really fun. No, they just like to weaponize moments. I know. But as I'm saying,

is that we do a podcast in which we obviously are joking around and making jokes the whole time. And then some percentage of the fans take what are very obviously jokes and then decide that they want to get performatively offended by them to make content on their own platforms. I get it. But also, you guys are fucking F slurs.

I don't want to say it too many times we're going to demonetize. Jewish wood. Yeah. So, but for sure, we need to be able to joke about the Jews, too. They're funny as fuck. They wear little hats. Are you trying to be brown? They got curly-fri-sideburns.

Curly-fried sideburns. I'm not supposed to laugh at that. 24-side-birds. I mean, I'm just saying, the craziest haircut you could ever imagine a million years. Curly-fired sidebirds. Hey, he's a good bird, bro. Every time I see a Jewish guy on the street, I just think, like, seriously, with a little hat, really?

You're gonna speak up for the Jews? That's just comfortable. No, and I fuck with the dudes like heavy. I'm a fucking Christian, bro. I'm gonna what you're talking about. You hood hop? Bro. I had never been from that shit.

Bro, as soon as I heard Musa and free fucking pals time, oh shit. On the cipher, I was like, damn, I should have had an Israel bar. Oh, shit. I had one. You should have went last. I should have, yeah. You should have been last.

Boy, it was good. They got me right, right in my moment. Scope said, million dollars worth the game gets more views than you do on the Tuesday's show is your best show on your platform what you seem to be leaving out because apparently our audience is entirely consisting of jackasses now is that you're referring to huge interviews with big names you'd have you'd be wiser to compare this podcast to like the episodes that they do that's just them which i don't even think they do anymore because they were doing so bad but um shout out to gillian

wallow i just i was saying i don't think they're really the powerhouse that they previously were viewed as d n civilians said i just want to let you know guys know that I'm watching. Thank God. Really glad you told us that. That's right. Dragonite Spad said, Dragonite Klan motherfucker, SMH. I'm talking about the cipher with y'all, though. H-Town Up.

He's right, though. We should have mentioned the Klan. Definitely. Oh, that's what he was talking about the Klan. Yeah, no one said, drag-khan. Talking about Blue Bucks and all kinds of shit. Yeah, with the Wu-Tag, Blue Bucks, Ku Klux. This guy's talking about, Lena, he said, Adam, Gatoos tore that thing up.

Toes in his mouth, waterworks, and all that. fire hashtag gooners in the chat hey that's my ex i'm glad you had a good time hopefully uh they get to run it back one day he's talking about this male porn star who banged her um this is getting more serious to serious the ex the single every day that goes by yeah fuck richie vid said adam i'm so tired of seeing ricky yuio pot of green Pokemon gangar looking ass please stop forcing him on us this is torture Jesus Christ so there's that and then a i sloth gang said i'm back at the steel mill working overtime on my crane. This is my favorite show of the week.

Shout out to y'all. Congrats on the sobriety, lush. You look healthy. Keep going. That's right. Patch notes said Rios has tonsil stones, sells bootleg designer fragrances, and blew up a rocket.

I say all that to say fire dog boy. God, I got tons. God, dog. Wow. I said all that to say fire dope. Yeah. Big Mike said free and hefe.

That's right. And then R. Garcia, which I hope it's the R. Garcia said Lush got the weirdest facial hair. Your beard is weird. Yeah. Shout out to FPR. And then Paper Chaser said, Adam, you was tripping on Lush for putting hands on Lush, but watch, you won't ask Wack about his accusations of hitting and intimidating the blue girls. By the way, it was on camera, so don't try to spin it and be biased.

You are speaking as if you are a person who has not watched the podcast over the years because I have actually asked Wack about freaking out on those girls. I think the most recent episode or maybe the one before that we talked about that so now she fell into his fist like the guy paper chase it seems like he watches the show so much and he's asking me that as if I wouldn't fucking ask him

about that when has there ever been a big whack narrative that I haven't asked him about yeah right it's never happens that's not happening and I never have asked him hey I don't want to talk about this thing I'll say you do you definitely ask him I'd say you let him get away with a lot of bullshit in his responses but you do ask him it's true it's hard

to do that when you're not necessarily an expert and you don't really know, but yeah, I mean. Especially when he's saying Obama and a lot writer. Yeah, I mean, that was probably the most extreme example. When you think about that one, that was pretty out there. Okay, one more. Shadow Moses said, disassociate from your spouse, aliening your friends, and use a culture for profit,

but condemn them when it doesn't suit your needs. Never take accountability. Anything else I missed from the 22 show. Where should I start here? use a culture for profit but condemn them when it doesn't suit your needs. How about I just condemn them because that's my actual opinion and I'm willing to have critical opinions about the culture that I am very much a part of despite the fact that based on my skin color, many people seem to feel that I shouldn't have opinions about.

But no, I criticize hip hop from within hip hop because hip hop is desperately in need of critics and criticism because there are clearly, even if you're barely paying attention, there's a lot of elements of hip hop that really, really need to be analyzed and discussed because there's a lot of stuff. There's a lot fucked up stuff that happens under the roof of hip hop. Hip hop's also too big to be considered a monolith at this point. There's a lot of varying opinions within the culture. Yeah. And I mean, you're allowed to be a conservative person and listen to hip hop and have opinions about hip hop. You're allowed to be someone who doesn't even like hip hop and speaks about hip hop and has opinions about hip-hop.

So, um... Do you consider yourself conservative? In many ways. Although I concern myself a Democrat, but I can say myself conservative on many issues. And actually, when I was taking my CCW class the other day and I realized the extent to which the Democrats have really eroded our gun rights in this country. Right. It really started to think, you know what?

Fuck the gays. Fuck abortion. I'm boating on guns from now on. That's the motivating. I mean, when you just see all the limitations placed on the conservative... carry on behalf of the left. It's just disgusting. It's like they've made it so it's like kind of easy to get a CCW now,

but then they have insane restrictions on it. You can't even go to the post office. Name the number one. You can't leave it in the trunk of your car while you're at the post office. Really? Yeah. Post office is a government building. Yeah, government buildings, you can't have your gun.

Oh, you said you mean you have to leave it into Trump when you go into a government building? No, you leave it in the trunk. You're still technically committing a federal crime. You want to make parking about? Yeah. Oh shit. There's way more to those.

It's fucking crazy. Don't get parked. Yeah, it was pretty funny that my teacher at the gun class, like, after a little while, he pulled me aside and said, I know who you are. I'm going to pass you. I know why you're taking you. Can you give me that information? I need to go to that class. Oh, that was great.

Yeah. But, okay, you know what's really funny about that, too, is that like, so obviously he cares about teaching the CCW class. but also he clearly believes that you shouldn't have to take this stupid-ass 16-hour class in order to have a gun so yeah he's a little passive about some people paying attention in class and stuff like that but there are there are limits he said there was one teacher who was letting the the class take a two-hour lunch break and that they found out about that and they had to shut it down because obviously it's not good damn yeah yeah There was also a fat guy in the class who tried to ask me how to get into porn. They all knew you. You know, they all knew weight. Hey, man, they got to start the own genre, bro. Honestly, like, total asshole.

I just, like, I'm looking at my phone. I'm just, I look at his body and I just go, yeah, you're going to have to figure it out on your own. You told him like that? Yeah, I was like, it's got to be in you, not on you. Like, you can't just want to do it. You got to be the kind of guy who's going to be able to do it. I can't. I tell them I can't give you any advice because number one advice is get in shape, idiot.

Yeah. Number two. guy you would be doing it. Yeah, exactly. And I told him, I'm like, if you really want to get into it, you got to find a girl and make your own content with her. And that'll act as your resume. It's not the same.

That wasn't good enough for him. It's not the same as like being a rapper where you, like, can be like, oh, let me hear a verse, been averse right quick. You can't like put on a demo. That's what I told P. Nice. You saw how that worked out. He had the footy. Pete Nice had the footy on day.

Yeah, he showed me a couple clips. I mean, honestly, P. nice knock it out of the park as a porn star committed this guy but i don't really like if you're a guy and you want to get into porn just don't don't tell me i have nothing to tell you i'm not going to help you at a competition competition no i just don't i have nothing to gain from that i recently found out how much the top male only fans creators make it's not much they must not have been paying attention to class talking about that shit in class it must be la lax no because we got a 10 minute break every hour.

10 minute break every hour? I know, it's got a lot. God damn. But I did. I sat there for eight hours on a Saturday from noon to 9.30, including the lunch break. And frequently throughout it, I thought, like, is this seriously what I'm doing with my life? And I'm going to, I guess, have to do this again in three years or two years or something.

Did they be passing people? I took a motorcycle class off of Krinshaw and right over there by Raleigh's Burgers. That's the hood. Yeah. And, uh... Engwood or a heartthorn? Engua. Oh, yeah, yeah, that's the...

And so, at the end of the class, they had us all line up and take our bikes in the line. The girl crashed into everybody. Boom. We're into everybody. Fell off, fall off of a bike. And it was the ending of the class. It was over.

And they still passed. Oh, my God. That's super funny. Was bro sad when you told him that? Like, yo, you can't... You're like, I can't help you with your aspiration. He just didn't seem... He was just trying to make conversation.

I don't even think he was serious. He just... No, but when I shut it down, he kept kind of like going with it. He's like, so I'm like, you got to like make your own content and just figure it out from there. And he's kind of like, so there's not like big companies that I could like go to? Apply to Vivid. It doesn't exist. But I'm like, but I'm like, no, not really.

Like, do you know what the guys who the big companies hire look like? They look like fucking Black Panther extras. Not you. brother man god damn and is it there are white guys who do it guess what

they're on a really good shape and they all have like really big dicks for white guys they don't have like ones that's like bagging on people like they're supposed to be fat and like weird

like no round the way porn yeah my prediction one go come along bro super normal porn you know what I'm saying a fat male porn star

why who would hire him and for what purpose I guess that was he'll check him He's going to change the game. Watch. It's going to be him. He'll be the unicorn.

Watch. I feel like I have a very good idea of what people want from porn. I feel like I have an idea of what races are not that popular, what body types are not that. There's not popular races? Yeah. Oh, that's crazy. Don't have me say it. I'm not going to say it.

But I know this much. It's Asian. No. It's not. I mean. Why would it? That's crazy. Don't you have got to talk about it.

That's crazy. I mean, okay. Vixen is like. like one of the biggest porn companies, and they have like a subdivision that's called blacked, and the theme of it is basically big black guys, fucking... A lot of white girls, but like Asian, Hispanic, whatever. Sometimes black, but...

Also, black women don't do well in porn. I think people's inherent racism very much comes through in who they choose to jerk off to. There's nobody watching to tell you, like, hey, that's racist if you don't click on her video. That's crazy, because I thought, man, I would have thought that was more popular. Aren't there some porn stars that don't want...

have sex with a black man? Yeah. Like that, it's a... Or like your first scene with a black guy is like a thing. You can charge more. That's so fucking crazy. Interesting. And I've had girls ask me, like,

should I work with a black guy or should I wait to do my first scene with a black guy? And I was like, you know, there's a very fine line here between like good business advice and me saying something that could be construed as racist in the future. But it's... But if you're being honest with her, like if she does... Oh, yeah. If she does the black guy first and they like black... Blackball or kind of?

Well, not blackball, but like anybody who'll put it intended. Okay, I'll put it like this. You want to create moments as a pornster that will be very exciting for your fans. First time you do anal is really exciting. First time you shoot with two guys the same time as exciting. First time you do any kind of fetish stuff is exciting to the people who like the fetish stuff. You know, like basically anything, anytime you do anything for the first time is going to be a moment that your fans will pay for. And your first time with a black guy is a moment that your fans will pay for.

So if I was a white girl getting into the porn game, I would shoot with white guys probably for whatever my first 10 scenes or whatever it is. And then I would, this kind of depends on you actually being popular in the first place. Because if you're not popular, you get to shoot with Vixen. You don't even know who you're shooting with. You just show up.

It's like a glory hole. Wow, this is a good way to end this pod. Brig baby. Hey. Brigg baby. Oh, shit. Yeah. Hey, what's going on?

Yeah, we were just about to wrap it up, but we got 10 minutes for the brick man. We just did the cipher, so we found a random park out here by the office, and we claim that, and that's now the No Jumper Park. Which one to one right down the street? Yeah, it could have been any park. We were just trying to find a part that didn't have any kids in it. He loved a little park. Who was on on this cyper? So it was Munchy, me, lush, Moose Man, Ricky, dough boy.

That's it. Stephen. And then, yeah, a quick appearance from one of the Edgar boys, yeah. Tell him how you took Josh off. Josh got off bad and boozy. Yeah. Actually, if you saw his outfit today, yeah. His rapping wasn't, like, bro, his outfit today, when I saw him walking up, I'm like,

there's no way he's shooting a video dressed like that. He's looking New Hampshire as fuck. New Hampshire as fuck is crazy. You feel, I mean? We all got it. We all got it, man. Shizz, how's life? How are you doing in there?

How come? Y'all were crippling too crazy? They don't like just seeing the kites moving back and forth? Yeah, on the undercover, like, snitch, are you? They know what I'm talking about. Oh, shit. Who, loose? No.

Smyrk? Dirk. Smark, yo. How's that going? He's chilling? You on your dean or what? Yeah. Oh.

But they starting to get through to you? Is Allah's teaching starting to make sense to you? Oh, shit, really? I learned something new about Brick every time. I didn't know he was. He said, oh, shit. I don't know what that means. Walahi.

How you don't know he's Muslim, man? Because he was Christian last time I talked to him. The fuck. Oh, shit, he hung up. I wanted to tell him that I'm on a low-leave issue as well. He might call back, or maybe, I don't know. Do we have more supers or no? She said the phone went out on him.

That's what grossed. Free crick, Casey. A couple minutes here. I heard him say, oh, shit. They probably cut the phone. Oh, and she said, yeah, hung up the whole call. So I guess we'll wait a couple minutes here. but Big Mike said,

six-knives paperwork says that he was 19 and the girl was 13. That's crazy. Unacceptable. However, unforgivable. His statement is that he didn't have sex with her. He didn't know how old the girl was. He didn't know her before walking into the room.

Now, I'm open-minded about new versions of this. So, I don't know. But the version that he's been telling publicly all these years, I always thought was pretty effective at making it. And he put everything on the dude he was with. Which is almost kind of a tell. That it's like if you put everything on this other guy and you didn't, I did nothing wrong. It was all him.

And that kind of makes you think like this. Also that I don't know defense is like the most common thing that all of the Chris Hanson exposés. But why would you say incriminating stuff about yourself though? Like he would never say the incriminating shit about itself. Especially knowing that 99% of people are never going to go read the paperwork. but also like that's kind of the beauty of to catch a predator which i did not see that movie i'm probably not going to realistically but like they have it in writing yeah so there is so you can laugh at the dudes and judge the dudes and you don't have to think well what maybe you didn't know or

maybe you know because they they trot out the fucking text messages right away right in that but that's their instinct immediately is to i don't know i don't know always yeah all right i'm guessing Brick and calling back. But, and then the final one is just K. Kay said, Munchy's ad libs, then no one catches are golden. You go through a live life.

You ain't going through my phone. And he wants his baby back like ribs. Shout out to Lush, sober. That's a fact toy. Shout out to Lush being sober. Shout out to everybody who watch this. Shout out to Rios. Go watch Society of Freedom.

Go watch Lush Ones channel. We got a few little things up there. dig through the crate and then shout out to Munchy B morals over money. I got to say it slow so I don't say it too fast there. Cyp. Cipher coming, man. Rios is going to be able to actually pass judgment. Him and Josh can do a pod together and let us know what they think.

And J Hood. And J. Hood. I'm going to go check out the park, see what it looked like at night time. Yeah. Yo, you better be careful. It's like fucking Jesse Owens over there. You get your top blown off if you're looking the wrong way. Nah, that was the funny thing, though, is that a black girl was, like, walking by,

and she kept kind of, like, glancing over and, like, clearly was just thinking, like, what the fuck is going on in my neighborhood? And, like, we were, like, wondering, like, when she's glancing back. Like, what is she glancing? Is she glancing at him? Is she looking at Munchy standing on top of the sign? Like, there goes to the neighborhood. Yeah.

The property value just got diminished. Amazing. All right. Shout out to everybody watch this. Appreciate y'all. Smas to like. Drop a comment. We need to