No Jumper - Wakko The Kidd on Getting Robbed & Shot in Hollywood, Being White in Hip Hop & More

Episode Date: October 7, 2022

Wakko The Kidd shares his story, how God helped him and how he is dedicated to making more music. --- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumper. Coolest podcast in the world. And we got my boy Wacko the Kid on the podcast today. How you feel, man? Yeah, man, I'm feeling great. The Kid That Did, man. The Kid That's the new name, or has it been that? No, that's when I came up out the coma.

That was the first thing I said. I said my album name is The Kid That Did. I don't know. I was delirious, but it just came to me. Wow. You know, it's a common saying, but, you know, I think Wacko the Kid, you know, is definitely the kid that did. Right, definitely.

So, wait, how long are you in the coma for? It was induced. like they had me under because I had four surgeries or whatever but you know when I was coming out of all the drugs and whatever they put me on you know what I'm saying the sedation or whatever that was just it was yeah it was a lot but that was one of the first things that came to my mind I said whoa the album name is the kid that did I respect I'll be looking out for it so okay before we even get into how or where you came from or anything let's just lay this whole situation out so you were at the studio in north Hollywood I believe the story was yeah Hollywood Okay. So you're just out the studio a regular night. Yeah. Were you with anybody high profile or anybody who would attract an extra amount of attention? No. No. It was a pretty low key?

Okay. And so then you get in the car at like what time? I wanted to say probably like 11 o'clock. And nothing out of the ordinary habit the whole time you're in the studio or anything, completely normal night. Completely normal night. Okay. And then you have in the car and you drive, I don't know if you want to say, like approximately where you live, but will you drive like 20 minutes or something? News and TMZ and everyone blasted it and blasting my address everywhere. So that's not where I live anymore. Oh, okay.

But you drove like what, 20 minutes? 10 minutes. Right. Yeah. And so then you pull, it was like a driveway or like where are you pulling in when the shit starts to unfold? I pull into my driveway and there was a car park like three, four houses down. Okay. And, you know, like I'm from the streets.

Like I double the block all the time. I'm paranoid. I know, you know what I'm saying? I'm looking in the rearview mirror. when a car in Los Angeles is so packed, there's so many houses, you know, like if a car is parked three, four houses down with their headlights on, like you don't think that. Like, you don't think to, you know, so.

It might spark a little something in your brain, but it's not going to be like, oh, that's, this. Yeah, yeah. And I don't have any ops. I don't beef it with nobody. You know, I don't gang bang. Like, none of that. Like, all I do is provide for my people and put everybody I possibly can in position.

Like, I'm very open with. you know, I'm a really genuine person, you know, so I'm not thinking nothing like that, you know what I'm saying? Okay. But I do have jewelry, and I am a high-profile person, especially in North Hollywood and in the valley where I'm from. So I'm always paranoid, but, you know, three, four houses down doesn't, it's not written in the rules of the streets to double the block if there's a car in packed ass North Hollywood.

Right. And so you had all your jewelry on? Yeah. How much, if you had to estimate? Just my one, the big Cuban with the 8-1-8 Waco, she weighed like 600 grams. Okay. So you had a significant amount of money on you, basically.

Right. And so what is it? You pull into the parking lot? I'm pulling the driveway of my house. Okay. And I get out the car, and there wasn't really any talking. Like the second I got out the car, my engineer, my boy Caleb Perez, he opened the passenger seat car, like, all right, so basically I get out the car and I look and they're

running up tactical, like crouched down with masks on with like two or three people pointed guns at me, right? So I'm automatically like, all right, yo, you know what I'm saying? I put my hands up, y'all beat me to the draw. Like, I can't do nothing. Right. So my boy don't really know what's going on. He didn't really hear nothing because they was trying to keep it quiet. So when my boy opened the passenger seat, I think it just scared him, bro. And they just started opening fire, bro. And, uh, because that's the scenario we always think of is like, you know, if somebody ran up on me and trying to rob me like that and I, and I could just be like here, yeah, take my shit. Yeah. I mean, that's kind of like the dream scenario of getting robbed. Like, if you're able to just walk away from it, fuck it. Like, you know, I'll forget about the chain. I'll try to never think about the shit again. And we learn from these situations. Exactly, right.

There wasn't too much, uh, too much conversation. It was like almost immediate because they didn't realize your boy was going to be getting out of the car. Yeah, I think they thought, and my boy is, uh, uh, cool. coolest kid in the world. He's just audio engineer, you know? Okay. But they don't know what's going on, and they know the type of people I be with, and they know I have security, and they know that, you know what I'm saying? You have security at times? Absolutely. Like, they're my family. Okay. And close friends, but to the outside, you know what I'm saying, they look like security. Right. Like, I'd be with, oh, geez. I don't, I don't be with a lot of young people at all. My whole immediate crew is all 50 years old plus. Right. So from the outside looking in, yeah, no, it looks like I'd be with

security everywhere I go. Right. So they, you know, they think, uh, they're thinking, uh, they're probably fin to get shot at, you know? Right. So they pretty much start, I don't know if you want to, you know, at, I know you have your own questions. I don't know if you want me to just keep going.

Wherever you want to go with this, because like, okay, they unload on you. Do you know how many bullets were shot? I got shot in the stomach. Okay. And then my immediate response was run around the hood of the car, to the front of the car. And then I got shot. All right, so detectives and the police, like, apparently they can't tell exactly what's what in that situation. So either one of the bullets in my stomach for sure came out my back.

And then we don't know if another one did that or the other bullet hole in my back was a shot itself. Right. So either way, so I have a bullet hole in my back and two in my stomach. And four grazes on my arm that are all like took like a good, you know, like a little. top of the ice cream off you know what i'm saying so right basically uh i run around the hood of the car and my instinct was to climb under the hood so i couldn't get shot in the head right that was like my automatic instinct so um basically uh at that point the only real conversation was i was like don't kill me over a chain there was like give me a chain then and the motherfucker ripped at it

as hard as he could and it's a 20 millimeter cuban and it weighs 600 of grams. So it's tough to break the link. Exactly. But I was kind of like, I didn't really know what the fuck was going on. So they take off running. And I didn't know. At the time, I thought they got it.

You know what I'm saying? Like I remembered unlinking it after he did that. I remember unlinking it, but I don't know what happened after that. I run to the front of the driveway and I called 911 myself. And I remember. getting on the phone and I just felt a giant squirt of blood come out of my back and I like kind of collapsed and I'm laying on my back calling the police

and or calling the ambulance whatever it is and them motherfuckers was there in 30 seconds coming out 100 miles hour with no headlights on. So they were there super fast. They were there super fast. So for two weeks in the hospital or whatever like 11 days whatever I'm thinking my chain gone. So the detectives give us the paperwork or whatever the fuck or the police like you know all my belongings because they cut me naked When the police was like where you hit I was like I don't know You know what I'm saying? So they cut me naked in the middle of the street

So my wallet my phone like everything in my pockets like all that goes into like belongings you know what I'm saying Right I have 15k in my pocket wow you know what I'm saying so um when I finally get the list of shit back It's my chain and my pendant is written on that shit so they didn't even get my chain. The police got it, you know what I'm saying? And the end of the day. So that shit was like... So they did all this and they didn't get anything out of you.

26 shots is what the police said was fired. And I was hit with a 50 cow in my arm multiple times. And I guess it was a 9mm or some shit like that in my stomach in back. Wow. Yeah. I mean, it's just so mind-blowing, but like, A, that people would be willing to do this just to try to get a chain or whatever it was. And the B, that it could go that wrong.

And it's like, obviously. Talk about a botched robbery. That's what I'm saying. When you picture somebody robbing somebody, you just picture them like doing the least amount of violence that they need to do in order to get whatever they're trying to get. And this is like firing 25 shots and they didn't get anything. It's kind of mind-boring.

Are you saying they didn't get anything? Yeah, they didn't get shit. Wow. And he ain't get shit. And like, yeah, I mean, fuck him. You know what I'm saying? the end of the day. Right, but you, so you really had no enemies or anything.

Nothing. There's a complete mystery to you who this could have been. Complete mystery. It's just the same shit they always hear about people getting robbed and about Beverly Hills, whatever, anybody with a chain getting ran down on, et cetera, huh? Yep. Does it make you think differently about how you move around? Like, I mean, in terms of, you know, like having that much jewelry on and stuff,

it seems like it's kind of a liability. You know, that shit, especially in the tension in L.A., as you know, all the shit that's been going on. Right. A lot of people been. killed and robbed recently. It's actually, it seems like something that's going on right now. Like a lot of people are like,

nah, we just fin to kill them and take it or whatever. Right. And so far, all these different times since this happened to me, they got shot less than half as many times as me and died. Wow. So it's really a miracle. And, you know, speaking of miracles, like, I spoke to God, like, like myself. And I don't expect nobody in the world to ever understand it

unless they've been through a near-death experience. You know what I'm saying But on some real shit I spoke to him My motherfucking self What was the conversation like? It was more feeling Than a conversation

But it was like Ascend And he It wasn't sad It wasn't funeral It was beautiful Like Come with me

And like my shit My hair standing up Even even talking about it But it's like It was not sad It wasn't death It was like Join

Like ascend Join me or music. It wasn't go home and be normal. It wasn't go back and just fuck off again. It was like you can have your dreams. Like personally, me to him. He told me everything I ever wanted in all my dreams.

This shit can make me cry, dog, for real. Anything I ever wanted is on the silver platter, all I got to do is work for it and go get it, bro. You know what I'm saying? And that was really the, I don't want to say conversation, but that was the deal. Right. He would allow me to live and go and do what I wanted to do,

but I have to work and I have to be, you know, I have to be on point and I have to really grind for it and it's already been written. So you're feeling that like, oh, you need to focus on your art and your career and shit. Like that was the feeling that God was kind of given to you? Not kind of. That was the only option.

Damn. It was music and your dreams. because, you know, airheads and my weed shit, like all that shit is cool, but that's not me. I've been rapping since I was 10 years old. Songs recorded. Like, this is really my dream. Like, this is like the weed shit helps to, you know what I'm saying,

fund the dream. But at a certain point, you get so up that you forget about the music shit. And I'm not saying that I've done that, but I know that that's been a thing that a lot of people in history, like my dad for example you know like he was way up back in the 70s and he was a guitar player he's like at any moment I could have spent a hundred K

and motherfucking put my career into out of here in the 70s but he's like no like you get so up at a certain point you're like like I'm this I'm that like you don't got to you know what I'm saying like you don't got to focus as much when you start getting a bunch of money and like and that's not the case

that's not how it's supposed to be when you think about like everybody who's gotten really rich off of music it's like sometimes you have artists who make a lot of money from music itself, but almost always with Dr. Dres, the headphones, with Kanye's shoes and clothing. The music is the platform to get you out in front of the world. Yeah, because, I mean, even as a YouTuber, like, the most money that we make isn't going to be from the YouTube videos.

It's going to be from some product that we make. Like, if we had, like, you see, Nug Boys, they got that Happy Dad Seltzer. Yeah. I mean, charging people, a dollar or $2 per fucking aluminum can is a way better business than being like oh hey pay me one cent to watch a fucking youtube video like that takes a lot more people to make a decent amount of money you know but um that's something that you're really good at too with the uh the kandama the kandama my cameraman my boy dada creative okay he's a genius on that shit too and uh nice i know you got all bmx bikes and all types of shit so i feel like we're still looking

for that product that's just so viral that everybody everybody who fucks with the channel has to have it yeah i don't know how you get there exactly but the weed seems like good idea. The weed is a great idea. It goes viral. You know, like people coast to coast is fucking with the airhead's major. Because when I met you, it was with Desto Depp in the studio, right? A long time I was just rolling around with him. I don't know, we're on some kind of lean mission or something. You came to my studio. Right. And I remember walking in and I remember just seeing your face and your eyes just got real big for a second. You're like, whoa. And I was like, oh shit, okay, I'm here. Because I never go to studios. And so I never like think about how people are going to act towards me.

And I just like you were cool about it, but I just saw it in your eyes like, oh shit, people really do not expect me to be pulling up to their studios. Yeah, and that was like 2017. Yeah, maybe 2018, something like that. It was, I know that I know that no jumper was just starting to take off at that point. Like it wasn't like how it is now. Okay, it was true. Yeah. But, okay, so where are you from originally and how to tell me a little bit about your early days?

I am from the San Fernando Valley to 818, born and raised in North Hollywood on Magnolia. I went to Van Nuys Middle School. I've been back and forth from Van Nuys to North Hollywood as far as living my whole life. I could never tell you the difference. Like if I'm in Van Nuys or North Hollywood, I have no idea. It just, it all blends in. Sherman Oaks, all these fucking towns are just kind of super similar around that area. For sure.

And yeah, I'm from the valley all the way. my parents are in the music industry. My mom's a business manager for entertainment, and she's done a lot. My dad is a guitar player, and back in the day, he did the soundtrack for Pope Fiction, and he did some really dope shit in his day, for sure.

Still a genius with the music. So I was brought up in a music family, for sure. Not rich by any means. We grew up in the hood all the way. you know, the music industry doesn't, you know, pay it unless all the business is very good. You know, all your business has to be very good to make some money in the industry. So you were getting exposed to the music industry through your parents? I was born in a guitar case.

Like my dad say that all the time. There's pictures of me. The first day home, my dad put me in the red velvet, fluffy guitar case. Wow. And I got pictures of me just, yeah, first day home from the hospital in a guitar case. So in the studio. What's your earliest memories of music, though? Were you just, like, around the house, seeing people record?

Were you like, they're taking to concerts and shit like that? My dad, I was probably six or seven, and he had a song, and he put me on it. Just to say, he was just like, say a couple words, it's my day today, let's go, hey, hey, yo, yo. And I was seven, you know, so, and that was in the, as a matter of fact, I grew up in music to the point where I slept in the same bed as my parents for until I was, was seven or eight years old because the second bedroom in the apartment was a studio for my dad. You get what I'm saying? I slept on the floor at times because I ain't want to do that. When I started turning older, I was like, now I need a, you know what I'm saying?

Because we're using a small-ass little apartment. But one of the rooms had to be a studio. So fast forward, I was like 17 years old. And I went to this Tech-9 concert at the House of Blues on Sunset, rest in peace. Tech-9. Yeah. So you knew about the underground rap scene as well? Man, I'm a motherfucking juggalo.

And that's one thing I wanted to talk to you about is that when I saw you do that ICP interview with your face painted with the ringmaster shirt, I got that shirt, the ringmaster. I got it tatted on my shoulders, bro. Oh, really? I got the ringmaster tatted on me, man. I grew up a real deal juggalo,

and you said that you've been exposed since 97 in the interview. I was born in 96. Oh, wow. So, you know. So you became a real deal. came a juggalo or started associating with that at like what age? Probably 10, 11. I got the lotus,

dark lotus cross and the ring. All these tattoos I got when I was like 11 or 12. Well, ICB was kind of litter on that time because that's when like a vice put out that documentary about them, which I felt like that was kind of the moment where everybody started to really actually understand the juggalo subculture. Yeah. And it's like it was something that never was understood, you know.

But I go to the gathering of the juggalo's every year. Every year. I've never performed. I've never tried to perform. I mean, I've been to the last five, and then I went back then when I was a kid. But I don't ever try to perform. Like, that's my four days out of the year

that I go and do all the drugs I want. That's what I do. You gotta do a lot of drugs there. All I do is smoke weed. I don't drink alcohol. I don't drink lean. Like, none of that shit. Like, I'll hit the homies cup type shit.

But, like, I've never like, I'm from the valley, bro. I'm from the motherfucking all my homies died on heroin and fettin all growing up. I don't have any day once. Really? All my homies is dead, bro. all the juggaloes and all my homies I grew up with, heroin's a big problem in the valley in LA, especially back then, you know what I'm saying?

You don't think it's worse now because everybody talks about the fentanyl, like that made the whole thing so much worse. Here's the thing. I'm not in the streets, in the trap houses selling dope like I was when I was 13 getting tattoos. Like I'm not, so I'm not as aware. Yeah, I'm not going to make any like new heroin addict friends in my life, but there's definitely a chance of somebody I knew back in the day could become a heroin addict.

So you kind of lose track of like what people are getting friends. fucked up on at a certain point, right? Yeah, exactly. But, yeah, I just wanted to pay my respect to you about that interview and pain in your face. Because actually, when I saw that, I was like, man. That's a little. Because I feel like those dudes are actually, like, my friends, basically, because I've

interviewed them enough times. And, like, I've hung out of them, like, three times. I'm actually working on a record with them right now. It's a bucket list thing that I just, you know. Really? I reached out to them through the boy DJ Clay, who's their DJ. Okay. And, you know, I sent them all to.

All the articles and Hollywood Unlocked and World Star and everything that had posted me. Right. And they, you know, they know I'm a juggalo. And I don't know how many other juggaloes in the world have done what I've done. Right. And got to the point. I'm not no active, like, in the streets running around juggalo. Like, you wouldn't know looking at me.

Right. But that doesn't matter. You get what I'm saying? There was a town in New Hampshire where I grew up where that was the legacy. It was like, oh, the jocks and the juggalo's have like a crazy beef. I don't know if people were getting killed, but definitely they were beating the fuck out of each other. Here, it was with the skinheads. Skinheads versus juggalo's? And the white power, you know, because jugolos is, we are multicultural.

But mostly white, right? I mean, it just depends where you go. Like, the homies in Bell Gardens and Compton, they're all Mexican. Yo, that's crazy. Imagine being a skinhead and then just beefing with like another subculture that's mostly white dudes, like, especially in L.A. If you're a skinhead. We're just against racism all the way. Right. Yeah, that's a big part of us. That's like the biggest thing is bigotry.

and fuck your rebel flag. Like we've been against the motherfucking Confederate flag way before it was viral. That song came out in 92. Right. You know? But to move on, because I know you was asking about my upbringing, I went to that Tech Nine tour

and I was already all the way rapping and doing shows at 17 and trying to really make it. You know, all booking to open for people and all that shit with the exes, exed on my hands to get in the venue. So, I had met this dude named five mics

who was you know which is around Grand Hustle and TI and I was 17 and he took me to Atlanta and I got a record deal with B-O-B and I was with them for about two years and you know I don't know if it was the flat earth shit that like I don't know like

that's like the first thing that comes to mind when I think about him for sure. He was the first rapper that you heard talking about some crazy conspiracy theories. Now they all do it. And I'm a real conspiracy theorist, but I can't get down

with the flat earth because they say space doesn't exist. Flat Earth is the first conspiracy theory that you find out about and then you are able to like easily disprove it.

Yeah, I'm such a big alien believer. Right. So when they say that space doesn't exist, I'm all the way, I can't get down with it because you're telling me that my whole belief in aliens is. But so he,

He kind of like let go all of his artists, you know, like he's like on his own shit. Like the label, no genre was B-O-B's label. But I was in Atlanta. I've spent, you know, on and off for the last since I was 17. I'm 25 right now. So yeah, I've been on and off for the last eight years. I had a condo in Atlanta. Been around Grand Hustle for a long time.

Shod to God is my brother, one of my best friends in my whole entire. You're doing music with him because he's been around doing shit in Atlanta for a long-ass time. We've always been listening to him. That's a legend in one of the realest people I've ever made in my life. One of the most loyal, trustworthy, like, that's the guy right there. Shot the guy is a legend and he deserves much more than, I mean, he has everything that he could ever want. Right. But as far as, like, fame, we're putting that together right now.

He's out of here. Interesting. So, like, okay, you sign with B-O-B and then what, he just, like, lets you go at some point, but then you're still kind of floating around in Atlanta and doing stuff with Grand Hustle. I've been around Grand Hustle. And if you know about, you know, Shod and Pee We Roscoe and them together, they kind of helped the situation.

They introduced Thug the Birdman. Right. You know what I'm saying? So I've been around Grand Hustle and YSL with Shod and, like, for a long time to where the point were both camps, like, I know everybody in the whole camps. Right. And that's my peoples, you know, so.

So what are you doing when you're around these camps? Because it's like, is it hard to like really let your music shine when you got all these big artists who are basically recording in front of you? And it's hard to know when to find your spot, when to even be able to record. Yeah, you know, like, obviously studio etiquette is a major thing when you're around a celebrity. But, you know, Shad is such a legend and he don't bring nobody around to the point if Shad bring you in, like there's no question. you can't even get in the same room with thug without you get what i'm saying like if someone if someone very important didn't bring you there you're not going to be in the same room with thug and like you know we've been around gunna and weezy since the very very beginning since you know before anything

before any buzz or anything you know right so uh definitely free the boys free gunna you know we watched that whole shit happen you know what i'm saying so so is that how you met dub is through the wild self type thing no um i was just assumed you were a little bit of Lean has because you're hanging out with Doug. Yeah, man, ain't that some shit? It's this power of influence, you know? Definitely not. I've never been addicted to any drugs because I've watched my homies.

All my homies always been much older than me. So, like, when I say my homies, they overdosed and shit, like I was 11 kicking it with 20 and 30-year-olds, you know? So when I watched them get into drugs, I didn't become friends with them as a kid as heroin addicts. We was all smoking weed. Right. But when they became addicts and got on meth and all these different drugs,

I was 11 still. I was like, y'all scaring me. Like, we sell it. Right. You know what I'm saying? Y'all getting strung out and shit, and I don't want to try that shit at all. I like weed. Right.

We smoking out of bongs and pipes back then. Right. But, uh, death though, man, it's been so long after really think about how the fuck I met him. Um, the awful lot of cough syrup shit I was just starting. Like, I was getting hoodies for $40, $50. Right. What are they now? I think like $2.50?

Man. Make me feel bad while I never paying for one. Look, I got like 5 million of them, but Damn, I would. I always try to pay when I go in there, and then they're like, no, no, no, no, it's fine. Just take the bag. Damn. Yeah, man.

My boy, caking up. I got to start selling hoodies for $250 bucks. Anyway, okay, so, but like, musically, like, when you say you sort of cracked out of the juggalo mold, if that's accurate? When I went to Atlanta at 17. But, like, probably, like, 15. I got sent away, like, you know, when the school district sends you the placement or whatever it's called. got sent to Utah. And when I came back, like, I just wasn't, like, I wasn't wearing all the

hatchet mans and, like, none of that shit. Like, I was trying to be a rapper. Right. You get what I'm saying? And Atlanta rocking that? They'll probably be looking at you crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just, it's a, it's a, it's a culture that it doesn't have to be blared out. Like, a lot of people love doing that. Like, I like being me. And I like dressing, like, how I like to dress. And part of being a juggler is accepting all that. You can't not tell nobody that you are not. It's crazy because we have a dude who works here, who I'm pretty sure has, like, all the Hatchamman tattooed all over him too.

And he just keeps it kind of low-key. Oh, my God, he's right there. Whoa. Another low-key juggalo, man. That's funny. Like, you know, and I remember I went to ICP show in downtown L.A. And I just seen, like, hala people with that shit, like, mad Hatchamond and, like, all the, the Riddler cards or whatever the fuck it was all over him.

I pull up like this when I go. You know what I'm saying? I'm important in the culture too because it's not my everyday thing. You know what I'm saying? So in the end of the day, it's like, it's just what I love. And you can't take it.

It makes me feel like a child again when I go to the gathering and shit like that. And then the second I leave, it's right back to work. But, yeah, like being around celebrities, especially musicians, like you have to know when the right time and to, you know,

but I don't know, really have to do that when I'm with shot. You know what I'm saying? Like he believes in me 100% to even be around me and bring me because he has tons of homies. Right. You know what I'm saying? But that's that, you know? But

yeah, the music shit is everything. That's the only thing that matters, bro. Yeah. That's, that's, I'm an artist at heart. Like, since the day, since day one, like it's been, it's been destined for me at this point. Do you feel like you've seen yourself get dramatically better over the last few years? Because I was definitely listening to Nourist.

and like remembering and listen to some of the older stuff and been like, yeah, I can definitely hear how you've been grinding. There's been a lot of growth. I think every song I make is better and better. And the music that I got right now does not out is crazy. I have real, like radio hits pop records, rock records. Like I have some, like I am a musician.

I grew up in a music family like I rap and hip hop is my culture, but I'm wacko. What does wacko mean? It means all over the place. It means crazy. Like, I'm not bound to making one style of music. And I'm also the kid. And this is also my motherfucking brother that just walked in the building.

My brother, Dusto Doug, man. What's going on? My boy, how you living? We was just sitting here talking about you, man. Just talking shit about you. What I'm saying? Hey, I said that I thought that he had to be a lean head because he was hanging out with you back in the day.

No, no. No? No. Solid dude. Yeah. All right. We're going to get you on camera a little bit more in a sec but um man i don't know it's like santa claus just walked in the room when he comes in

ah yeah we'll be done soon we can do that drop off um what a guy um fuck where were we oh okay one question i really wanted to ask is just coming up as a white dude being a rapper i mean i see how it is definitely a thing being involved in hip-hop in any way like even as a podcaster, even though people probably like think it's kind of normal to see a white podcaster, even in rap. As an artist, how different do you think that it is trying to get people that take you serious when you're coming in the game, Caucasian? All right.

Well, first of all, I want to explain this. There is white boys that black folks like, and then there is white boys that are a part of the culture. Like, nobody can tell me, like, I've been on foot in every project from here to New York to Atlanta to Chicago. I'm really a part of the culture. Like, I am not, like, a white boy that's one foot in, one foot out. Like, I tell this joke all the time.

Like, when the homies be like, yeah, when we get pulled over, you're going to be straight if we're in the middle of nowhere, like driving through the south and shit. I'm like, no, they're going to lynch me first. They're going to look at me and be like, you fucking traitor? You know what I'm saying? You ever had to happen? Never. You never got pulled over, like, down south or whatever, and the cop acts weirder to you because

you're with a bunch of black dudes? Yeah, I mean, if they're racist, for sure, they're going to look at me and be like, boy, you better pull your pants up. See, down south is when you get to see the real in-your-face racism. Like, I grew up on the East Coast, and I saw a bunch of subtle racism, but I didn't really see it like in my face until I was older and went down south. I'll tell you this. I agree, but I also don't agree because I've never seen anybody in Atlanta with swastika tattoos

and real skinheads. But they got that out here. In L.A., they're all, I see them all the time. Really? because I seen one guy with a swelso's on his head in Huntington Beach one time and I hear that that's like a thing down there that that's kind of where they tend to congregate

is in the O.C. and shit. There ain't no man, San Fernando Valley, L.A., you name it. Really? All over the place. I would trip out. If I saw a skinhead walking down the street,

I would be like, I would be like I saw King Kong walking down the street. I would flip out. I see them all the time, you know? So racism is like alive and well. Like, no one can tell me. me that. Like if there's people running around

with crazy-ass racist tattoos, you can't deny it, you know what I'm saying? I've just never seen that in Atlanta. I've seen that in Los Angeles in the streets and but... Yeah, if you were a militant white power guy, you probably don't want to be hanging out

in like downtown Atlanta. It's like all black people and gay dudes. But also to get back to the point of like being Caucasian in hip-hop is, I've only seen it in a couple comments. no one is ever like not I wrap my ass off

you know what I'm saying and I make good music and I come around with solid people I'm not coming in the room unless I was referred or coming with somebody that I know is a motherfucking legend bro so that's my main thing

like I learned that very young like if you're with the wrong person and you know they're weird I don't care if they're like I mean you got a way to situations but I don't want to be introduced to Kanye West by somebody that I think is squirrely You get what I'm saying?

You want to be introduced by somebody that's a legend. That's true because, like, I've been around Kanye. This was back in the day before I kind of made it clear that I didn't always care for some of the things he's done. But I was around Kanye and it's like, people are acting like, I'm supposed to walk up to him and say hi. I'm not walking. I was just saying hi. Now, if I'm with somebody who knows him and wants to say, hey, this is Adam. He got the best podcast in the whole world.

Cool. That happened when we were Cameron. I'm with Ben Baller. I probably wouldn't have walked over and said, what up to Cameron? If he wasn't with Ben Baller. Ben Baller, Ben Baller walks me right up to him and says, this is Adam, you got the best podcast, whatever. That was a cool way to meet them, but it is kind of weird when you feel like a,

in a thirsty environment, especially where it's all fans, and you kind of know you're going to just get lumped in with the fans, and you don't really want that introduction. You'd prefer to get highlighted, you know? Or I don't even care if the dude's friends. Like, everyone has some friends that are like, you know, I'm not talking about business partners and people that be a part of the business, but everyone has a couple friends that you know are just kind of flake.

and like I want to be introduced by the by the man right you know where it's automatic love like and that's what like situation with thug and and tip and all these people like that you can't even get around but because of shod bringing me there you get what I'm saying because of deistow bringing me there because of whoever it is they may introduce me I'm automatically family no one can say anything about my word not being true or nothing like that like I'm solid as it gets when you get introduced like that that is true and honestly like even being being around thug and gunning and shit a lot of of that was because of dub and like when I interviewed thug it's because juice world basically walked up to him and said hey it's my boy adam you should do an interview with him yeah you know it's like that cosign is everything especially if you're young thug and it's like i mean i don't know how thug was living his life but i wouldn't be surprised if he didn't sit around watching youtube interviews all day you know like he's he's the fucking man he's allowed to like not really pay attention to what's going on in the hip-hop media so i'm not necessarily surprised if he doesn't necessarily know that motherfucker move a million miles an hour and has a hundred things to do

every day so yeah so how did you feel when the white so overeho came down man that's really sad bro because i just know that gunna and and thug like they just really really really good people bro like they're loving people like i've seen them put on the whole motherfucking block there are whole everyone around them is on everyone on there everyone around the crew whether they signed or not is bust down right you know what i'm saying it's just like and well taken care of living lifestyles that you know otherwise nobody would be living So if anybody's telling or any of that shit, it's like it just blows me that, you know. Definitely.

Hopefully all that shit gets squared away for sure. Okay, but in terms of, oh yeah, one last question about being a white rapper. Did you ever say the N-word in your prior life? Never. I don't do that. I don't do that shit. I don't do that shit. It's probably a good way to make everybody like you as well.

It's disrespectful. Right. Straight up. A rapper's gonna respect you for knowing your place and knowing who you are, you know? Yeah. And if you're out here saying that, where there's a white guy, it's like...

I agree with Joe Budden years ago when he told Yellow Wolf that he is a guest in the culture. I didn't necessarily like like how it was said in spite. Right. But I agree. Hip-hop culture, we know where it comes from.

Period. There's no denying it. There's no nothing. Like, if you are, white and you are loved in hip hop culture and more importantly if you are white and you are loved in black culture you are blessed and you are a guest you're blessed and a guest right period i remember once i've glad asked me that in an interview he said are white people guests in hip hop and i i didn't really know what to say and he goes well i'll put it like this is like would you walk into somebody's house that you didn't know that well and put your feet up on the on the table i'm like no he's like why

Because you're a guest. I'm like, okay, yeah, you're right. Don't walk up and put your feet on the fucking table. You know, if you're not 100% solidified, right? Yeah, no, 100%. It's also 22, though. And there's rappers in Korea, Japan, South America, Mexico. Like, hip hop is so, like, I've seen, like, dope DOD is from the Netherlands

and, like, all these different rappers. And, you know, so it's expanded past the point of, like, like, that real gur. Like it's like it's but it is black culture period like that's unarguably like a fact like somebody like Jack Harlow is someone who realistically I think could be a gigantic artist and never really interact with like mainstream rap culture if he didn't want to yeah but then I look at him fucking with ESTG and it just immediately makes me regard him a certain way of like oh you're really fucking with like the most up-and-coming street artist. And that video is crazy but I thought that shit was so tight. Yeah, and I mean, but he's been funging one for a long time, and he's like, ESTG even told me that

he, like, he Jack had, like, really looked out for him in some pretty unique ways. You guys can go check that clip out. But, you know, like, that, that, I think, they're both from Kentucky, right? If you have the, yeah, if you have the option of being a rapper and really engaging with the culture and fucking with it and showing that you got love for it versus, like, just basically being like, nah, I'm just this white guy who's going to do my own thing and I don't need y'all. Like, you should definitely probably, if you want to be the love, so you should air on the side fucking with people, right?

You have no choice. Like, that's lame. That's so lame to just come in a culture that is not yours and not fuck with the people and just be like, like, hell no, like, you have to fuck with the people. You have to touch the people. Like, first things first, when I left L.A., I couldn't wait to get up out of L.A. As far as, like, because I was doing all these shows opening for people,

lost globos all the time, like all these small venues. And when I had the chance to go to Atlanta and New York and all these places, is like, like, I'm rapping on the street in the projects, in Basley, in Queens, like, in Brooklyn, and, you know what I'm saying, like, Park Place, all these legendary places, biggie from, like, first things first with the boy five mics. I'm rapping on the corner. So you weren't scared to just pull up and spit? Absolutely not.

Like, that was my shit. When I was younger, I was very, very, very much into underground hip-hop. Like, Tech Nine is one of my favorite artists of all time. I think he's an absolute genius. Like we talked about ICP, you know what I'm saying? Like I came up on underground hip hop. You know what I'm saying? So when I went to Atlanta and B-O-B and they just liked like how I rap,

they just like how it's immediate and like how it was, like when I was really into the underground shit, you know? So I remember looking at being 17, looking at Bob, like, what kind of belt is that? And he was like, it's a Gucci belt with the double Gs. I'm like, I've come from nothing. Like I don't know what the fuck a Gucci belt was Even with the tan the most obvious Gucci belt in the world This is also 2015 or 2014

But you know like coming from what I come from I didn't even know what the fuck that was Right So like um What I was saying is a Yeah you know Absorbing the culture Like that was everything to me like

I That was so much everything to me Especially coming from the juggalo culture It's like I All I care about is black culture all my friends well I have a bunch of white friends too I have a bunch of Filipino friends and a bunch of Hispanic Latino friends but I'm just saying like black culture means everything to me and if I've never said that that's from the heart you know like that like it doesn't get more obvious to me you know what I'm saying like I love black music I love black culture I love black people it's absolutely everything to me. I sure um okay so what's it been like having this be such a high profile robbery thing it's all in the news there's like news segments about you and stuff

titles like North Hollywood rapper shot all of a sudden you're like California rapper LA rapper and I am an L.A. rapper but I'm also a fucking artist and in a second I wanted

to touch back on the pop and rock records and the other genres what I was saying but you know it's been very high profile everybody's seen that shit there's kids in Germany that have to do English class a whole like essays on me there's people in london this shit went worldwide it's way it's way

way crazy why you think it got so big when this is like a situation that you know sad to say it's not that uncommon in l. i mean you know um i want to say it helps to be verified on instagram and like to be straight up flat honest it's probably because i'm white you know and i'm not afraid at all With any of that, like, I'm, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm not, I'm all the way with the culture, and people get shot every day in the hood, and they don't even make the news. Right. You get what I'm saying?

So it's like, they make, they don't make, you know how to fuck, you know how to fucked up news is? Like, they only going to make the story about a white boy. You know what I'm saying? Like, they don't care about the black culture at all, and we know that. Like, they don't, the media, all that shit. Like, they just want views. That is fucking crazy, although there's probably a lot of truth to it. So how does it feel seeing something happen to, like, the,

the sauce walka craziness and then the PNB rock shit that's just like within the last couple weeks since you got shot and someone else got killed and robbed and an encino the like a couple days ago right just to be honest like I'm absolutely blessed I'm a walking miracle and like every single one of them person people got shot less than half as many times as me you know what I'm saying and they all died so it's like it's like yeah yeah It's unbelievable. And I just have to take it as a blessing in disguise. Because that's all it is because my career is out of here at this point.

I got everything that you ever want on a silver platter like God told me. So you've seen the socials going up a lot and everything as a result of this? Deals on the table. Really? Interviews lined up. That's true. You know what I'm saying? Travel, a tour.

All types of shit. Like, we got all types of shit in the works. Had you been doing meetings about signing leading up to this? No. No. You know labels want to want a story. Yeah. No, but you can't name a white boy in hip-hop history that just did what I did.

And, you know, in my history and what I've done, like, it just, you got to bring up 50 cents. You got to bring up Tupac. For real. Like, I don't know who else. You know what I'm saying? the boy Lonnie, BG Lonnie. Right. Like, he's a legend in Detroit.

They call him a legend, you know? So in the end of the day, it's like... Do you want to watch some good dialogue go watch me try to ask Lonnie about the shooting? He didn't want to say that. He just fully shut it down so hard. It's so awkward. But, yeah, man. So, okay, you're considering the label shit, though?

You think you're ready to, like, make that part of the plan? Absolutely. Absolutely. I'm not... You know, a lot of artists don't have a choice because, you know, they're coming from nothing. So they'll sign whatever. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm in a situation where I'm not struggling, you know?

So, yes, a label deal, even a single deal, you know, we know we know what we want, but we're open for a negotiation as far as like deals and shit like that. But we're independent, completely independent. and the shit's rolling and the money's coming in with the music already and all the streams is up and, you know, people like shit like this. It's sad as it is.

The world, you know, the world doesn't, the news don't post the lady got a new goat. You know what I'm saying? Some random ass shit. They don't do that. All they post all day is just murders, police chases. You know what I'm saying? Like, they don't, they just want a lot of negativity sales.

Somebody told me a long time ago, If it's negative, it's news. If it's positive, it's PR. Because realistically, if you read an article about a lady who got a brand new goat, probably she hired a PR farm to be like, hey, like, I think you should draw attention to this lady and her new goat farm or whatever. You know, it's like you understand why people pay attention to the negative shit

because it's just so much more salacious. That's a great point, and that's great. That's a very, very good quote for sure. But the thing as a public persona is that you need to be able to, like, seize the negativity and somehow use it to your, advantage. Yeah, we're squeezing every bit of positivity out of this negative situation. Yeah. Absolutely. And I was blessed that I got, you know, news of killed in critical condition, you know, CNN, Fox, ABC, you name it. CBS, every single news station in the fucking world

posted that shit, it seems like. And then when I made it, I had an in-person interview with CBS, then ABC, and motherfucking Fox 11 and you name it, you know, and each interview was on a different day, and it was about me surviving. Right. So I got both sides. I got the, you know, the negative and the positive. Right, because they were spinning it like you were dead in the beginning, right? A lot of them.

Just as an observer, I kind of like got that idea pretty quick. I told my girl, I'm like, oh, man, this dude wacko. I know. I think he might have got killed, you know? Like, I had almost like accepted it that that was the more likely outcome. Yeah, man. and everybody knows how honest, truthful, and just an all-out good person I am.

That's why I've been blessed to make it this far. You get what I'm saying? Like, I don't do shit to nobody except put people on and just I give, give, give. You know what I'm saying? So it's like God was not, you know, I had the opportunity, like I said, but he was not going to let me just go out like that.

Right. You know? Glad you held it down, man. Yeah, absolutely, man. Me too. and it's just, I'm just ready to get this shit on the road. So what's the next couple months or next year of your life look like in terms of how you're going to use this to sort of make the music take off?

I mean, I have a lot of shit to talk about in my music now. A lot more shit to talk about. I have management, OG Hustle 818. I got, you know, Uncle Bub, I got a whole team of management. We got PR. We got a lot of people helping us, right now, some really in the industry legend people that I've just been around for a long time.

And prior to this, you know, it's the music business. Like we can be friends with the biggest people in the world, but if there's no reason for us to work because like I didn't have motion enough, then you know, we're just friends forever. And we don't ever do no business. But after this, it's kind of like everybody reached out. You know, like a lot of legends,

a lot of people in the industry, there's just a lot of people that are willing to help and are already helping put shit together because of, I'm going to call it an incident. Right. You know? Just a minor setback. Major, major, major, major comeback. Wait till I get in this gym.

A mere flesh wound. A mere flesh wound and a couple of cool scars. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? That's it. We're going to check out the scars in the vlog. Yeah. Just so that we can get a little more up close impression of that.

Yeah, no, for sure. I definitely show them off. I still got the stucle of. staples until Friday, so I still look like Chuckie for real with the red hair. They were saying I look like Chuckie forever, but now it's... Man, I had this dude, uh, dough boy who's from, uh, not the dope boy that you're thinking of, but dough boy from San Bernardino. It's like a Mexican rapper and he was in here the other day.

He got shot up like a month ago. Same, same thing. Stomach fucking sewn up. It's just scary, bro. Yeah, man. Like, when I was in the hospital, I was like, I don't even want to see it. Every time they opened it up, I was like, I was out for all the surgeries, but, you know, when they're cleaning it, I'm like, go ahead.

I'm like, I'm good. Wow. I don't want to see nothing open. Crazy. I'm glad you made it, man. Yeah, me too. Glad to still have you with us. Absolutely, man.

That shit is life is very special, man. That's a fact. The second I get the, because I had a punctured lung. Oh, wow. My liver got lacerated is what they said, which means, I guess, like a small part. So they cut part of my liver out. And if you know about livers, you know, they'll grow back.

Right. You could have a liver the size of a quarter. They could cut 90% of it out and it'll grow back. Wow. So, and they patched up my intestines because it went through my stomach and out my back. Right. So I had the punctured lung.

I'm good. They wouldn't let you out the hospital without it being okay. And that's why I'm smoking, you know what I'm saying? I didn't even think about that with the smoking. Yeah. But I'm just waiting for the doctor to clear me for air travel. Because, you know, going 10,000 feet in air. Stressful in your body.

After the lung, it could potentially recalapse or like, we just got to, I just have to go to the doctor again and get the x-ray and then be like you're good. But usually it's two to three weeks. And today marks three weeks since it happened. Are you in a lot of pain physically right now? Shout out to pain pills. I haven't felt anything. The only pain that I felt is when, I guess they put me on ketamine when they stapled it because I had to be awake for the staples. And I've never done ketamine before, but that shit had me in the pyramids in outer space.

It felt crazy? No, like literally like I was literally in Pong, like, bro, I was in like the Mayan ruins. Wow. And then a split second later, I was watching like the 300 war back in the day with fucking, you know what I'm saying? You might have just sold me on ketamine. That sounds kind of sick. But it was injected though. Oh.

It was through the IV. You know what I'm saying? It was straight through the IVs. It wasn't the powder shit that everyone would be doing there. But, I felt that. I felt that. Because I could open my eyes and see the ceiling of the hospital. Like, I was aware.

But the second I closed my eyes, bro, I was looking at dinosaurs and then you name it, bro, the Coliseum 3,000 years ago with people, it was nuts. I felt that. But to be honest,

the most pain that I felt this whole situation is when they have to rip the bandage off and it rips my hair off my arm. All right, right? It's always like that. Getting tattoo, same thing,

when they fucking take that cold wipe and they fucking rip all the blood off. that's the only pain I felt and I got 40 staples and open Like right now my arm is still like yesterday The nurse that came to the crib Opened it and it just automatically Just started leaking blood like it's still this deep

But he's like they spray it clean the blood And they're like no it's healing beautiful Look at all the little shit Actually I can't show you that Because that one's all the way taped up But I can show you all the different Fragments of bullets that stuck all up my arm Well hey

And I can show you the staples Hopefully you make a smooth transition off of the pain pills at some point. I refused all opiates. Yeah, okay. Because you already, I already told you, I'm not with that shit at all.

They gave me like nerve pain. Okay. Thousand milligram Tylenol, thousand milligram adville. Oh, so you're not even on like norcos and shit right now? They gave me a whole jar of oxycodone. I ain't take it at,

not one. You want to sell it? No. Absolutely not. We'll talk about it off camera. All that happened. What's your social media and shit for everybody who, Who wants to tap in?

I'm sure it's already been on the screen. It's Wacko the kid. W-A-K-O-the-K-O-the-K-K-O with two Ds. Right. And, you know, Wacko, what I was saying is that Wacko means all over the place. And I've been called Wacko since I was 12 years old, like the teachers, my parents,

like it's just Wacko from the Animaniacs. That's my shit. Wasn't there a Wacko that was signed a juvenile at one point? I think so, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because he had that, the N-L-Y-Clapped. Was that him? Yeah. I think so.

He spells it differently. Shout out to. How often are people talking about like whack 100 and you think they're talking about you or vice versa? Never because he's whack. Oh. Not like that. His name is whack. Right, right, right.

His name is whack. That's actually, you know what I'm saying? Family through other family. He's from the valley. So regardless of any, you know, like, you know what I'm saying? Like I don't know him like that, but that's, you know, he's from the valley and that he's a he's an OG. So that's that. Like I respect him 100%.

For sure. And I'm wacko. And with the music, wacko means all over the place. And the kid, kids can do whatever the fuck they want. So I'm not bound to making one style of music. I am hip-hop culture and that is me all the way.

And I'm never, you know what I'm saying? I'm not into putting on latex boots and pants and pink hair when I do a rock video. That's not me. You're not going to MGK on them? No. You know what I'm saying?

I like his music. Like he's dope to me, you know what I'm saying? Right. But that's just not me. And I don't do things that are not me. Right. So if I do a rock video or a pop song, it's still going to be wacko the kid.

You get what I'm saying? Like, that's just it. Unless the video's playing dress-up, and a lot of artists do that. There's a lot of artists dressing up like chicks these days, yeah. Shit, I'm not doing that. You know what I'm saying? But if I got to dress up as a fireman,

if I got to dress up, if we're acting, Like I'm into whatever. Like I'm not saying that I won't ever dress up like a fucking rock star. But I'm just saying that's not my thing to switch up and go like, you know what I'm saying? Wacko and the kid both separately mean that I could do whatever the fuck I want. Kids are a kid does whatever the fuck they want and Wacko is all over the place. So that's just in regards to my music. When are you going to have a kid?

And how will you explain to them that you are Wacko the kid and that you have a kid? to be honest, I'm so far away from even thinking about that. I don't even, I do not want children. How old you? I'm 25. Oh, shit, you're still young as fuck, okay. Yeah, so, you know, my dad had me at 45. My dad's 70 right now, and I'm 25.

So I'm not saying I'm waiting until I'm 45, but I'm waiting until I own a bunch of property and a house and, you know, like I have, you know, I have everything I want. I waited until I was 36. I think it was a pretty good idea. Yeah, I'm down to wait and tell him in my 30s. Whatever happens happens because, you know, God, you know, it's up to him. But I'm not.

It'll take a lot of energy out of you. Yeah, I'm on the roll up. Yeah. When I'm all the way up and everything's good and I don't got to think about shit and we can just sit on an island for months at a time and, yeah, let's do that. But that's what I want to own island. I want to, you know, I want houses everywhere, you know, but, you know what I'm saying? Like, my goals is very high.

I'm going for an island in the metaverse first. Yeah, make some money Make some real bread in there Just step one Step one, right? Fuck man Appreciate you coming through Everybody

Go follow my boy See what he got coming up I have a feeling It's gonna be big And I'm just glad you made it man Yeah man I appreciate that very much man The kid that did

Album dropping soon And I noticed that you took your Your security pretty serious Coming in here So I respect that Oh yeah I'm not playing on I've never getting shot again Fuck that

And it's yeah man absolutely i'm moving absolutely correctly and i'm from la and i know it comes with this so right for sure respect man i appreciate you adam wacko the kid appreciate you man no jumper coolest podcast in the world check us on youtube tick tock talk patreon instagram all that shit like comment subscribe nojumber dot com if you want to support appreciate y'all