No Jumper - Wizz Havinn on his Florida Upbringing, Dissing Foolio, BossMan Dlow & More

Episode Date: July 25, 2024

Wizz Havinn talks about his early days, being a wild kid, how he started rappin', Foolio, Drake, Boston Richey and more. ----- Get the latest news & videos http://nojumper.com CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE S...TORE!!! https://shop.nojumper.com/ NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4z4yCTj... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22     / adam22     / adam22   adam22bro on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No jumper. Coolest podcast on the world. I'm in here with my man Remo today, and we're having a conversation with one of my favorite artists coming out of Florida right now. Wiz Haven is on the podcast. How you living, man? Man, I'm chilling, man. I was going out.
Starting point is 00:00:12 Super Whiz. Yeah. It's going on. It's good to have you on here. You know, I'm like real tapped into the new wave of what's going on coming out of Florida. I feel like you're one of the guys at the forefront of that. No, I'm for sure. For show, yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:25 I mean, I actually regret that I didn't get a chance to say this to Kodak, but I wanted to ask him what he's, what he thought about the next generation of dudes coming out of Florida. Because I feel like there's a whole wave of dudes coming out. Like you, Lo Schimmy, Lil Tyler, Bossman Delo, obviously, who aren't... Like, I feel like there was a whole wave of dudes who, I don't want to call him Kodak clones, but basically Kodak clones for a long time. And now it finally feels like there's like a lot of new energy coming out of Florida,
Starting point is 00:00:52 which is kind of exciting. Yeah, yeah, we bring some new shit to the table. They ain't seen out of Florida. So, you know, it is... I think that's what got that shit, like going how it's going around, because, you know, it's a lot of flavors coming out of there right now. Definitely. I feel like you are, like, one of these dudes who's, like, super laid-backed.
Starting point is 00:01:10 You kind of, I know rappers don't like to be compared to other rappers and stuff, but it almost reminds me of, like, a V's or, I don't know, just like a level of, like, laid-backness that people really appreciate and just how smooth and cool you are with it. I definitely, you know what I said? I definitely got a big influence from V's most definitely. Hell yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:29 So tell us a little bit about exactly where you're coming from. I'm from Tallahassee, Florida. You know what I'm saying? Souts out of Tallahassee. Coming from the bricks, you know what I'm saying, to the red. You know, really, same shit, you know, same struggles as everybody's hood. You know, same shit going on. What makes Tallahassee stand out compared to the rest of Florida from your perspective?
Starting point is 00:01:49 I say, really, we just be on our own type of time. You know what I'm saying? We just got our own, everybody got it. Like, everybody that's coming with something like, some different shit, you know what I'm saying? Because they used to see in most of the regular Florida shit, like, you know, like the basic Florida shit. But, you know, we came with, like, a different way.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Like you said, like, people was used to hearing the same Florida sounds, some shit when I say, like, us Talashtra rapper shit, we brought a whole new sound to this shit, like, you know what I'm saying? Definitely. What you think, started putting Talasi on the mat? Like, because it seemed like there's a focus on it with you and a little toddler and everybody come up out of it. Yeah, it's just like really like shit
Starting point is 00:02:31 I don't know, it was just like some shit Just came in the wind Like it's like shit Boston Park and Tyler popped And I went up and you know what I'm saying You got more people coming up Out of there to us a lot more people coming But like at that moment
Starting point is 00:02:46 That just what was going on It's like that shit just caught And it was like flames just You know what I'm saying All of just had a way that just Kind of like got us in the door and shit You feel? Definitely
Starting point is 00:02:55 So what was your upbringing like In terms of your parents and what sort of area you were grown up in? Shit, single mom, you know what I'm saying? I really grew up on the rid and most of the time, you know what I'm saying? But it's really like basic shit. Mom's trying to make shit happen. You know, pops ain't really around.
Starting point is 00:03:13 You know what I'm saying? Needs just trying to figure it out. Just bumping my head a few times. I said, shit, I went to a whole lot of juvenile programs and shit like that. Right. You got arrested a shitload of time when you were real young? Yeah, yeah. You got rushed like 10 times or something.
Starting point is 00:03:27 Yeah, my first. My first charge I had got, I was a 13. And then after that shit, I just kept going back really in the juvenile system until I was 18. And as soon as I turned 18, I caught a charge. What did you get caught up with at 18? Or at 13. That's right. On robbery.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. Who put you onto that? Nah, I was just on some hot shit. I ain't allowed. I was a bad ass shit. But I was sneaky, though. So a lot of people ain't really know what I was up to, but I was hot a fuck.
Starting point is 00:03:57 So from a young age, you were just trying to figure out how to get some money one way or another? Yeah, but really at first, I wouldn't really, it wasn't even bought the money. I ain't a lot of a niggily was just really out here, like, trying to basically, like, get a name type of shit. Really? At first, you know what I'm saying? I'm done, I jumped out of the porch like 11, so a nigga, I'd be trying to get a name. First, I wasn't really looking at the money and shit like that. Why you feel like you jumped onto the Porsche so early?
Starting point is 00:04:20 Shit, it's just the influence, you know what I'm saying? Like being around it, growing up in the environment, it's like, I didn't really have no choice. to go, you know what I'm saying, test the waters and see what it's like. So from your perspective, though, were you trying to get a name for, like, the older dudes? Or was it more just for, like, the people your age that you were in school with and shit? It's like, I really just want to name just all around the border, like, with everybody, like, shit. The older people, the younger people. Like, they were just trying to get a name just on some street shit.
Starting point is 00:04:47 You're hearing? Mm-hmm. Just putting it down on some street shit, you know what I'm there? Definitely. So in Tallahassee, though, like, one of the big draws there is a college, right? Yeah, yeah. So is it kind of like there's just a lot of neighborhoods And then the college is kind of like what brings in a lot of like tourists and people from out of town and shit
Starting point is 00:05:04 Yeah, most likely because like the college is really in like family That shit like down there like literally in the hood so like Oh it is okay so yeah, like it's basically like just a few minutes away so The shit really like kind of bunched in but fSU kind of expanding and they got their own shit going on so like The tours they come for shit like that like you know what I'm saying the the football games and shit like that Just a really sighty and shit like that. Do you guys look at the college students as potential licks? Is that like a common attitude for a young person coming up out of there?
Starting point is 00:05:37 I mean, hell, yeah. I mean, like, everybody looked like that. But, you know, it's like, it's like on some shit. You know, it's a lot of college students that actually come and kind of down to become a local. You know what I'm saying? And they kind of move around, dip and die. But really, like, 90% of it don't even come out to campus. Is there a spot called hip hop chicken and fish?
Starting point is 00:06:03 Yeah, yeah. And I believe it's owned by DJ Coward's uncle. I don't even know, but I know that bitch, gas. They got a crack that go on top of that shit. That shit, gas. I just remember seeing it like 20 years ago when I was out riding bikes going to FSU and just being around in Florida and stuff. And I remember driving by and thinking, that's a crazy-ass name for a chicken and fish spot.
Starting point is 00:06:21 And then I googled it and figured out that it was DJ Callid's uncle, at least at one point. Yeah, that shit. I'm like, that shit, guys, I want the best spot. Okay, good to know. But, okay, when you get locked up once, though, are you, does it kind of give you a reality check of like, damn, I could end up going to prison for a long time or anything, or is that just motivate you?
Starting point is 00:06:40 Hell no, I was 13. I was on some dumb shit. I'm like, shit. Going into detention, you got things, shit. We're on some hood shit. You know, everybody, we're pushing all the clicks out of the hood. So when we're going that bit, you know, shit. I'm in hell with it.
Starting point is 00:06:55 I'm in hell with the members, bitch. I'm like, shit, we get no niggas ass and I'm bucking, and I'm having fun and enjoying it. So it's like, at the moment, nigga on some shit like, man, I can do this shit again. I catch another chore. This shit ain't nothing. You feel? I do my time. That's how I'm thinking.
Starting point is 00:07:11 But shit, that shit was stupid. Really? Just looking back on it, you just were too concerned with your reputation and not just getting some money? Because obviously, like, as an adult, you look at it, like, the goal is to commit crimes, make money, and not get caught, and maybe be able to pivot out of that shit. shit. But when you're young, you kind of want the accolades. It's the thrill. Like, it was really the thrill, just constantly doing the shit. You know what I'm saying? Just constantly being able to do the shit. The high speeds, running from the police to get into shit. Like, it was just a thrill that shit, like, at first, you know what I'm saying? But then, that's when it became, like,
Starting point is 00:07:43 as a little bit, that's when it became, like... You got tired of that shit? Yeah, like, bitch, I got to get some money. What was the longest bid you sat down for? Like, what, it was like 14 months? And what was that for? about that father. Oh, yeah. So that was part of the game as well?
Starting point is 00:08:02 You were a kid boy? Yeah, no, no, no. We were getting all the type of shit. We would get kids, but we was having our type of shit, though. So you steal the car? What are you going to do with it? Shit, we either find out running this bitch, or we're trying to, like, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:08:19 Go hit licks in this bitch, basically. Like, we're using this bitch to get to Licks. Like, they get the Mok calls, really, go find more cars. You know what I'm saying? But we just, it's one of the ones, like, shit, and they come across a little slide of some foreign shit. Nika might have to slide a maybe for a few days, you know what I'm saying, and pop out right quick. The craziest shit I saw when I was watching a Channel 5 documentary about the Kia Boys in Connecticut or some shit, and they were talking about they steal a car and sell over $100 in the hood.
Starting point is 00:08:47 I ain't a lot of niggas. It's like, niggas was selling splats and shit, but that's what we call them. We call them splats. Niggins are selling them shit, but it's like, entirely we ain't got no chalk shop. Like, we ain't got nothing of that shit. So it's like, you just, bitch, just do what you do free will. A nigga buy it off you, you know what I'm saying? I mean, from what I got from that documentary is basically like, if you're selling it for $100 in the hood, you are selling it to somebody who's planning on using it to go slide on somebody.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Oh, shit. I don't know. You know, I don't. Right, yeah, I'm sure you never knew anything about that. Yeah. That's bad kid shit. Yeah, that's a lot of shit. So you got caught up when you're 18?
Starting point is 00:09:23 Yeah, yeah. What was that one for? Like, as soon as you kind of entered into being an adult. in the legal system? It really like, shit, just a little simple position. You know what I'm saying? A little can position. Oh, you're a cane on you.
Starting point is 00:09:37 You're a fan? I used to be a big fan. No. You were just getting it off? Emotion. I'm saying? How'd you get caught with that, though? I got pulled over on some fruit.
Starting point is 00:09:52 I went to go, I went to grab some off from more people's and shit. I put it in the projects. Yeah. Police around, they follow me, pulled me over. But I had license at the time, but I thought my shit was still, you know what I'm saying, valid. But shit, they're like, nah, you're just suspended. And step out of the car, I quit. So they searched that bit found and shit like that, you know.
Starting point is 00:10:14 So is that when you had to go sit down for 14 months? Nah, hell not. That was for the GTA, right? Yeah, that was for the GTA. That was my third June-hour program right now. Okay. And did anything change in your mind after that time, being locked up as an adult? Yeah, yeah, I'm like, I can't be in no county jail.
Starting point is 00:10:31 I bundled out of them. I'm like, well, I can't go. I ain't trying to see the back of that bit here. No, that's not it. I'm like, went to the juvenile shit. I'm like, why ain't that county jail? So the juvenile shit's kind of fly, and then the county jail is like a bunch of old-ass dustheads and shit?
Starting point is 00:10:47 No, it's like the juvenile shit bug out because you had a whole bunch of kids and then bitch is, you feel, me, just really with no filter, you know what I mean? So that shit just bored out. But I was saying like shit, a nigga was fed up or being locked up. I did it so much as a jet. So it's like, but I ain't trying to be in this shit. I was in the door.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Right. So when did you like, I'm going to try this rapping shit? I tried. I tried the rapping shit when I did them 14 months for the GTA. I was raining a little shit, you know what I'm saying? But when I got out, it's like, I ain't really want to do that shit. You know, I was dipping and diving with it. But I just tried to ride shit.
Starting point is 00:11:28 After I did my first bid in the county jail, I did four months and that bit. After I got the position and all that shit, I got on probation, violated shit like that. You know what I'm saying? Then when I violated, I had to go lay down for like four months. So shit, throughout that time, I'm like, man, I'm going to try this route. Shit, I got out, tried it. Was you writing rap since then jail? Like, you was focused the whole four months?
Starting point is 00:11:53 Like, I'm going to get out and do this? Hell, no, I had writers blocking that bitch. I just was like, man, I'm going to just get out and try that. ride. Like, I'm just to get out and just getting in front of the mic and do that shit. Definitely. So, okay, was there anybody that you were looking at as you were a young guy, like, that you were seeing
Starting point is 00:12:08 having success with the rap shit, or who are you looking at? I mean, not out the city, but, like, as a jay, I always usually look at, like, cheek, like, bees watch cheek documentaries as jah. I was probably, like, 11, 10, watching them shit's like, now what this thing is gone?
Starting point is 00:12:24 Like, you feel? And then, like, really, the man, the main the main nigga who a niggil was paying attention to it like yak and shit you feel me so like the nigga paying attention to him coming up you know what I'm saying that's what kind of made me like bitch I want I got to turn up too you know what I'm saying that shit kind of motivated me definitely so how do you start working on the rap shit though when you get out that shit really just being around it like my cousin's split shit he was rapping he already had a few songs I was kind of jumping and then Boston jumped off with the shit so it's like I'm
Starting point is 00:12:59 kind of already around there. So, like, I just felt around and jumping that bitch and just made some shit right quick. And then after that, I was like, man, let me try that shit one more time. Let me beat. And then I got a little more serious with it. And then I dropped one song.
Starting point is 00:13:15 And after that, that shit, that shit went up. And what song was that that you dropped that started getting you like some attention in the tally? That bill was called EasyE. The EasyE joint, all right. And what was your knowledge of EasyE leading up to that? Because I feel like you're kind of young, to be an EZE fan, and you're from the wrong part of the country.
Starting point is 00:13:32 I grew up worshipping EZE. Nah, for sure. I ain't a lot. I just, like, just the whole movement of the NWA shit and just easy itself. Like, bro, it was just a smooth-ass, nigga. Like, and how he used to just come on them shit was just, like, effortless, but that shit was hard as fuck.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Like, he was laid back on some player shit. Like, he went on that bitch, like, trying to yell, scream. Like, you know what I'm saying? He had his own, he had his own swag by that stuff. You feel? Yeah, I think I had that at NWA. he was the most official one. Yeah, he was like that.
Starting point is 00:14:02 He was like the one like that. Like that ain't like, bro, like popping shit like on some smooth shit. And so that song just took off right away? You just put it on YouTube and it went crazy? Or do you have to like do anything to make it start going up? No, I really put it on soundcloth. Shit, when I put it on soundcloth, I ain't really pay too much attention to it. But when people start coming up to me like, well, you are if I heard that EZ.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Yeah. And Lamar Jackson and fucking around it. And post it. And when he posts, I'm like, damn, what a fuck. Like, my shit is spraying now. So from there, it's like, shit. That's what I mean really, really go back to the stool. Like, I got to make some old shit.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Definitely. And at this time, Boston Richie in his songs, going crazy? Yeah, yeah. What song he got out right now that's going crazy? Um, B-Hack out now. Bull's eye. All right, so Bullsard in rotation at this time. Yeah, keep this and, you know, all that shit was going on.
Starting point is 00:14:56 You feel like me? Like, shit was, you know what I'm saying? and shit was in motion. So my face right in the middle of it. So, like, when that shit first popping off, it's like, you know, my face in the middle of it. And when I finally got focused with the rash shit, that shit, it's feeling pleased.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Yeah, because you be, I see you a lot in, like, a lot of Boston Richie videos and shit getting your face card up. Nice, you know. You guys, yeah. So, like, with you in Boston, rich relationship? Like, how long y'all you've been known each other?
Starting point is 00:15:21 You knew them before the rap shit? Yeah, yeah. Man, we've been knowing each other. Two down. Yeah, I'm from the same. He's from the same. He from the South. Yeah, we're from.
Starting point is 00:15:28 We all from the South. Yeah. So how did I originally meet and link up? And what was y'all friendship based off? Just really on some shit. Like, a young nigga grinding, you know, he's just one of the ones that just, you know, motivating a nigga on some shit.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Always motivating a nigga, showing a little different shit, you feel? Me, keeping the nigga out of the way. So, you know, we just locked in. Then shit, when he went up with the rap shit, it's like, shit, bill. It's shit just the same thing. It's just a different lane.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Nice music. you feel? Definitely. Was there anything in particular that he told you that helped you, you know, skip some of the hard steps of being a rapper, any particular game that he put you on? I mean, basically, just the main thing really just, he just really showed a nigga that word at there. Like, you just keep music, like, you know what I'm saying? Keep recording. Gotta keep music. Because as long as you got music, I've got four thousand songs. Shit, a thousand of them bitches are gonna make you, you know what I'm saying? you where you want to be at you know what I'm saying no that work ethic is super important because a lot of
Starting point is 00:16:31 people think that they're going to make like one song make a couple songs and that their job is over when all the successful rappers I know are the people who are like it don't matter when their project came out or whatever they're always playing shows making music shooting videos just doing every single day trying to find something to do to be productive and yeah I ain't like I'd be in the studio every day I try to be in the everyday all night you feel I be trying to record as much as possible because the nigga just like shit the music is the part of you feel me as long as you keep the part of shit
Starting point is 00:17:05 you sit straight for life and the reason just going to be and just think one song gonna do it even just sit on one song and drag out that shit gonna have you dried up out you gotta have music in the clutch you know what I'm saying just prepare any time to drop shit you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:17:22 and even if it's like even if your hit rate was like 5% that's still like a very solid percentage you need to just go in there and just grind out these songs because one of those times you're just going to hit yeah one's just going to hit you know what I'm saying so like and even why you drop me you're still building a fan base and shit it's a win-win regard everybody got different favorite songs yeah you know what I'm saying definitely when uh Boston was dropping at that time before he blew up like what was the formula for him that you seen work through like all right this shit going up shit really
Starting point is 00:17:56 just putting the effort in, like, just putting faith in this shit, you know what I'm saying? Like, just really, like, taking that step to be like, man, I'm from, I'm from to do that shit. Did you always see that? Like, did you always see, like, ah, yeah, bro, for him to take off and be a superstar? Yeah, yeah, but you got the thing, he never really made no music before. So when he made his first song, like, damn, this shit, this shit sounds good, be like, you know what I'm saying? So from that, it's like, shit, he just really just was perfecting his crowds, right? Like I said, where he's the word.
Starting point is 00:18:26 he had to just always show that, man. I just knew he was gonna do it. Was it, I'm off-off. Was it the situation where, like, soon as he started dropping, like, the whole city got behind him? Yeah, yeah. It's like, really, it's like,
Starting point is 00:18:37 shit just was a shocking point because, like, bit, you know, like, at the moment, and really, like, for a long time, we didn't really have no artists to pop. You know, like, you know, so, like, that shit was a shocking point. Like, everybody, like, what the city?
Starting point is 00:18:51 Like, everybody's ruining. Like, everybody's ruining. You know what I'm saying? That's just how the city is. Everybody's going to root. for you for sure like because we ain't got no artists that that ever really came from that
Starting point is 00:19:01 me, you feel like. But I also feel like, you tell me if I'm wrong, but like, I had a clip of me talking about Bosman Dilo and saying that I felt like he represented something kind of new because it's like it's not on some crazy killer shit. It's not necessarily like on some gangster
Starting point is 00:19:16 shit. And when I listen to your shit, I feel like kind of the same way. It's like it's easier for the people to get behind it. And it's, because it's just fly shit. It's just, it's mostly just like relatable. life shit and like for a while now a lot of the fans seem like they're mostly interested when they're
Starting point is 00:19:32 hearing about some crazy violent shit and I feel like you guys kind of represent like a different style where people are maybe not as bloodthirsty and they just want to hear some fly shit. Yeah, hey yeah a nigga pushing on my positivity and play a shit, you know what I'm saying? That's what the nigga own,
Starting point is 00:19:49 but you know what I'm saying? Like shit you guys what are the people want to hear? You know what I need? But like I say it, a nigga pushing positivity and play that shit. If you had some crazy beef going on in your private life and then you get in the booth, are you thinking about rapping about that
Starting point is 00:20:04 shit, or are you mostly going to like kind of ignore whatever's going on in the streets? Yeah, no, I ain't thinking about no, nigga. I'm thinking about popping shit. You know what I'm thinking about getting on this bit talking shit, you know what I'm saying? Talking about what I'm doing. I ain't talking about those.
Starting point is 00:20:19 So you wouldn't even drop no ditch tracks if niggas was a dis you would just be off-requent like shit. I mean, it's, the music shit, so, you know, in a way, but no, not really. Nah, no, I mean, if a nigga's just going in, you know, me 24-7, just straight, just going up, like, yeah. Yeah, I'm probably, I probably might, listen, I probably might just go ahead and check it in the song, and quiz just on some smooth shit, but I ain't fin to get on that, like, just flat-out
Starting point is 00:20:46 dissing the nigga, and I'm talking about, bitch, we're trying to do all this down in the third, nah, that ain't, man, what type of name. They just thought the Don Julio song was a folio disto. Oh, come on. Yeah, yeah, for sure, for us, you know, they took that around. with it for sure but like I say like I said like shit to me I just was I was just keeping that shit like brother like shit how everybody looked at that bro shit brother shit brother big is trod and you're like shit that what they don't call now I see it yeah because the line was you was uh you said
Starting point is 00:21:14 I ain't doing no dissing or I ain't doing no trolling and I ain't foolio and all bro do is trod like shit so but filio kind of got offended by it because like he made a story post he was saying uh like bro ain't even from my city you ain't got no ops to beef within your City, why you even speak up on my name and shit? Yeah, I see that shit, but I ain't respond to it. I mean, like I say, I'm not a troll, so I don't even want to do the internet and shit anyway, but like I say, like, it wasn't even bullshit, niggins just keeping that shit a stat.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Like, shit, I ain't trolling. You feel, you're the main troll in the world right now, kind of, you know what I'm saying? At that moment, you know what I'm saying? You know, with folk, brother, daughter, whatnot, but he was the main trolled like shit. But was there anything in particular that made you want to say that? Like anything personal that had been going on that he had mentioned that made you want to throw his name in there? Yeah, no, I'm just into school having fun. What I was in?
Starting point is 00:22:13 Take it out, you take it. I'm just recording. Like, shit, music. Kind of crazy, he ended up getting killed in your city. No, man. He got killed in Tampa. Oh, I thought it was Palais. No, Tampa.
Starting point is 00:22:24 My bad. How far Tampa from town is you, though? That's like. Probably like four hours. Yeah, what was your thoughts when you initially seeing? Because, like, you know, bro, he'd be getting shot all the time. So, like, people usually see Fulio, you know what I'm saying? He'd be straight.
Starting point is 00:22:42 But this time is like, damn. So what was your, the news? What was your thoughts on the news when you heard that? He checked this time. It just really on some shit, like, shit, man. I don't know shit. Yeah. They what it is.
Starting point is 00:22:57 Shit, niggas die every day, be. Mm. But y'all never really chopped it up after? Like, when he made, when you made the song, when you made that comment, I ain't never really have any words before. You know, we got mutually, you know, we got people that we highlight mutually, you know what saying? Because he said he'd be kicking it with some of your homies or something.
Starting point is 00:23:14 I mean, yeah, you know, so, you know, we got word through a few people, you know, when I really, that's good. Definitely. Do you, um, okay, so when would you start releasing music? Like, when did you feel like you actually had your first, like, real viral hit? When did it start to, like, go through the roof where you could really feel it? I probably say like when I drop like That's the song that put me on the mat to who you were
Starting point is 00:23:45 And that came out like 20-22 Yeah 22 Mold and like not worthy I'm too right that kind of like put me like In the door a little bit You feel me? Oh and a nigga on freestyle That's a little bit in the door too All right for sure
Starting point is 00:23:58 Where did you record mode at And what was it? Because I seen the video Where you shot the video on Tele-Ixie too right Yeah I recorded mode and um And bra um And braw at a fact At a studio on the braw And then I shot a video and tagli.
Starting point is 00:24:13 I shot half of the video on, Tyler, for family on coming. But. Yeah, I think a little Tyler in the video and boss of Richie, I think, right now? Everybody was in that bitch. But then I had on, I told him like, no, we got to wait until I get my, to tie when I got my perms and shit. So I waited, I set up appointment and shit when I got my shit. And then finished the video then.
Starting point is 00:24:32 All right. So in the video, that's when you was getting the perms? Yeah. All right, for show. So that was like a priority once you started getting rap money? You were just like the teeth had to be a. Yeah, yeah, I had to, for sure. Because it's looked down upon if you get pullouts in Florida, right?
Starting point is 00:24:46 Yeah. But I mean, like, shit, it's like, to me, like, I ain't no nigga who, you know, talk about what a nigga do shit to teach his own. You know what I'm saying? You want to pull out. You want to pull out. But I'm going, but I'm going, you know what I'm going. You know what I'm saying? I feel like the grills are too painful to just, like, because I had one at one point and you put it on your teeth and it just hurts.
Starting point is 00:25:07 It feels weird. It's like moving your teeth at all times. Whereas, I wouldn't want to. want to get my fucking teeth replaced with gold but if you do at some point
Starting point is 00:25:15 it's gonna just feel normal in your mouth right? Yeah, but then it's like you don't want no place neither though because look at it
Starting point is 00:25:21 though like you might lose them bitch you gotta keep replacing them them that makes you get bent they can't fit in your shit no more you know what I'm saying they break all type of shit
Starting point is 00:25:30 exactly like you go to a restaurant and you got to take it out and so you have the choice of taking this thing that costs like you know I think mine was like eight grand or whatever and you could either
Starting point is 00:25:39 put it on the table where you probably gonna forget it or you could put it in your pocket where you're probably gonna bend it. These are like two very bad options. And then when you do have it in your mouth, it just feels uncomfortable. I'm sure some people get used to it, but for me, I could not
Starting point is 00:25:52 rock with it. I had plays, though, like as legit, I had plays. I'm probably like 15, 16. I had the same amount I got right now, 16, but my shit was kind of like, I had a go into them bitch and then my top had them broken half, you feel? So, like,
Starting point is 00:26:10 like split down the middle four and four so when I put that bitch in it's like I can kind of floss right there like you know what I'm saying like I was kind of throwing bitch like I got perms like you eat turns with the grill too it makes your teeth look so much bigger because it's like sitting on top
Starting point is 00:26:26 of the teeth whereas like with yours it's like the same size that your teeth were so it looks normal it's just gold whereas like with the grill it just looks kind of crazy on it like in Florida though I ain't a lot like Florida you got some grills like they got placed that that that real deal like
Starting point is 00:26:41 look like these you know what I'm saying that look like perm who started the trim where it had to be perm so you feel like you gets credit for doing that in Florida shit I ain't a lie
Starting point is 00:26:53 that's just some that's some OG shit shit all the old heads from my way they had perm my daddy had perm that's an old school shit but it's not really just a tally thing
Starting point is 00:27:05 it's like a Florida thing it's a whole state wide thing like you know what I'm saying Yeah, yeah Are you just gonna rock with yours The way they are Or could you ever see yourself upgrading them? I mean,
Starting point is 00:27:17 I like them how they is But I'm gonna try the diamond shit Just because How much it costs to like goaded up? Shit, like 7,000 Yeah, all right, so that ain't that crazy? Yeah, it ain't too crazy Yeah
Starting point is 00:27:30 What, um How did you actually come up with the name? Shit, the name is crazy My dog, True He locked up right now He gave me the name Wizard, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:27:42 Like, the name N wizard. Like, when they were just Posty, like, yeah, I said, Wizard, like, I'm gonna call it, like, you,
Starting point is 00:27:48 you wizard. Like, he just, so, maybe you call him a wizard. And it went to Whiz for short.
Starting point is 00:27:53 And then the having, shit, I was just doing on some shit, like, just like, shit, I'm having,
Starting point is 00:27:59 like, but even around the time, like, shit, n'n ain't having too much but you're gonna have it, like, sauce,
Starting point is 00:28:06 n'n'n'n'n'n'n' just like the whole nigga, we're having game, like, a lot of shit. So it meant, it really mean a lot of shit. I don't really like me and just having money type of shit. Yeah, and you were trying to speak it into existence, too, because I'm sure you know a lot more money now than you have back then. Yeah, yeah, fuck, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Right. But, yeah, I was trying to definitely speak that shit into existence, for sure. Even when I wasn't having money, I was having motion. For shit, sure. Nigger, I haven't moved, man. Nigger having shit going on. They were moving around. I'm saying, niggum wasn't no scrub, man.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Is Dink, you related to Dane having? Yeah, I'm all my fucking brother. Worry, right. Yeah, because Dank going on, too. Yeah, man, I think going on. That bit, I mean, that bitch just hit an M. First ever song. We're going to drop one song.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Let me hit an M. It was like a couple months. That shit, that shit crazy. And he took the name on after you already had it? Yeah, shit. We just, we were hereby. We just rocking that shit. We haven't, bitch, we have it.
Starting point is 00:29:05 You know what I mean? sure definitely so how do your family react when you told them you want to be a rapper they weren't supportive no at first
Starting point is 00:29:14 they thought I was gonna they thought I was gonna they thought a nigga of fool or shit like I'm gonna make some real money off this shit and basically like off a rap like I'm like basically
Starting point is 00:29:29 you don't even got like on some shit like looking at like this shit like so how are you gonna do that you know what I'm saying? But that shit came fast though definitely
Starting point is 00:29:41 yeah I mean it's hard to see the vision when you know saying you can be a rapper is like the number one thing that people say and they bullshit so if you actually like plan on taking a serious it can definitely be hard to make people understand that you're really motivated or that you really got some some talent yeah and it's like shit one and a million niggins make it rapping really like resources so like how you really fun to do that like yeah they see the vision now all right yeah i mean i mean a lot of people believe it with this shit like cow yeah who was the first people who was the first people believing in you when your family necessarily didn't.
Starting point is 00:30:21 Who was pushing you to like, all right, this could work? Shit, really, my dogs and shit, like, Cud yard. Like, my Cud, tell him like, Cud, tell him like, shit, bitch. Do that shit. My dogs rammed me. Like, shit, man, do that shit, like, cuck. You got that shit, like, you feel, me?
Starting point is 00:30:43 To just try that shit. And then when I, and it's like, when it came by, it's like, damn, why ain't been tried that shit? That's what I was saying in my head. Like, why I ain't been to do this shit? Like, why is that? Because you start thinking like, damn, if I had started when I was 16, I could have been the lit-ass 16-year-old rapper.
Starting point is 00:31:05 It's like, it's always like that. Even with podcasts, I've been doing this shit damn many of 10 years. And I always think, like, man, if I had figured this shit out, like four years before I did, I would have been, like, the ultimate innovator, like, super early in the space. But it's always like hindsight's 2020. Yeah, I ain't a lot. It's time, no.
Starting point is 00:31:22 That shit went well for him, I ain't a lot. just in the time period i've been this year like two years so like with the two years that i went on shit shit great crazy you know what i'm saying you start having uh labels reach out and everything like that or yeah out of the gate you know what's and shit you know i had i had um you know got in a situation probably like i say probably like after like down there now almost like going on like a like a year-end type of shit and the music shit close to to you. And it's like a major label situation or like a management type
Starting point is 00:32:00 thing? No, it's distro type shit. Oh, okay. Yeah. And is that helped you, you think, in your progression? Yeah, yeah. I ain't a lot of that shit helped me major. Like, that's what really, and that's what kind of like really, like, really, like, motivated me, like, really, like, get to, get to record for it.
Starting point is 00:32:17 Like, it's like, seeing other people, like, believe in what the thing that's going on and kind of, like, see a vision also, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. even coming in this shit like I said like I was doing this shit but I didn't really have too much too much of music to show like too much like too much like I had no visuals no nothing that really so it's like for for them to reach out you know what I'm saying and even give a nigga
Starting point is 00:32:41 an opportunity and so at an early time like that you know what I'm saying I appreciate that shit for sure definitely wasn't everything with boston tried to sign you or you even thought about signing straight on the new boss? No, not really. It's just like shit, basically. It just was all up. It's just like shit, basically, all this shit is just going on. It's just some shit.
Starting point is 00:33:02 Like, baby, we're just pushing. Like, when it came to me coming up, shit, bro, the hell of me just come up. And shit, this shit is just going on. You understand? I feel like you guys have, like, very different styles, so you probably don't necessarily feel like you're in competition? Hell, no.
Starting point is 00:33:18 It's like, this shit, like I said, it's all up. We never look at it like that. You know what I'm saying? Plus, like, he got a different style. I got a different style. We're just two different lanes and shit. We both hugging the road in new lanes, you feel it? Putting on for each other too, though.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Yeah, we both doing our thing. Did you start moving around Florida and traveling and shit once your music started having motion, or was that something that was normal for you prior to that as well? Now, I'll move around Florida a little bit, you know what I'm saying? Just going to shows with Boston and shit. But then, like, when my mother's... music, started pumping.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Like, now I'm moving around, constantly. Like, now I'm doing shows here, where I'm floored on hill, I'm now. You know what I'm saying? Like, no, my shit can't play. Like, now it's like, now I was getting a wheel for, like, then I had to pull up the shows and be, like, these people here, like,
Starting point is 00:34:08 you know what I'm saying? For me, no, like, I... What you for just you? Like, I got, like, it's like, it's like, it's like, I got the experience. I had started getting the experience, you know what I'm saying? That shit was feeling good. It's like, I was already seeing it.
Starting point is 00:34:22 you know what I'm saying getting the experiences off of Boston and let me even come out of shows and shit you know what I'm saying? And then the people with me then like just seeing like even being at shows he let me open up shit come out the crowd going crazy shit going up right because even you talking about being in Broward
Starting point is 00:34:38 it's like a lot of people might not realize that Florida's like its own country and it's like a 12 hour drive or some shit it's like far as from Tallahassee to South Florida yeah it's like it's really like what probably like six hours Oh, yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:34:53 But from the very, very top of Florida to the bottom, it's like, it's a crazy long drive. People don't realize. On the map, it looks like a normal side of state, but it's fucking long as hell. That shit, that's a long-ass drive. Yeah. So what was your first initial reaction when, you know, when 1090 J made the video he did about Boston Richie and then all the snitching allegations? How'd your hood take it at first? What was your initial reaction?
Starting point is 00:35:16 Shia, I mean, it's internet shit crazy, man. Oh, that's it. Yeah. But it seemed like the hood's stuff. behind bossin and shit yeah because of shit man that should be bullshit and he's a good dude and it's like if he has so many eyeballs him on him at this point that if he had really done some f*** up shit i'm sure we would all know about it you know not for sure but like i say man that's the internet you can't you can't run with that shit that internet you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:35:48 I put a narrative on some shit yeah but then 1090 jac ended up making video about you and how you got arrested with a switch yeah I'm not seeing that shit what would you what you think about that. You're talking too a lot? You got rest of which Switch in Florida or something? I don't even see it.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Because I had just started listening to his music around the time that he made that video and I'm thinking like, oh, this shit's dope, but it's like some cool chill shit and then I see that 1090 jig video pop up and I'm like, oh, okay. I guess it's still gets
Starting point is 00:36:21 grimy out there, you know? But so are you still dealing with that legal situation? Yeah, yeah, for sure. And that was like a year ago or something? Do you think you might have to go sit down at some point or is it going to be some light shit?
Starting point is 00:36:40 Lower it up. Yeah. You know, you know what I'm saying? Keep it pushing. What did, uh, what was your thoughts when you seen Drake postage you and shit? Man, that shit, f*** me up. I ain't a lot. When I seen that shit, I was like, well, hell, man, this shit was like, like, I really,
Starting point is 00:36:57 I really was on some shit like, yeah, man, it would be true. How do you think you got on this radar and was there, like, a conversation after the fact? I don't even know. I ain't a lot. I don't even know, but one thing, like, I'd be knowing, like, me as a rapper, I see my life, I'd be lurking. I'd be on a lot of people page, but I don't even know it, you feel it? So it's like, and then I hadn't tied them in the shit, so he probably just ran across that bit.
Starting point is 00:37:29 But when I seen him post that, I'd be like, and then how he posted me, I'm like, damn, like, he ain't just, like, he just, like, post a picture off my page, and I'm like, I post my music. like post the pictures of me like he's stamping this thing yeah like he stamped me like more more than one man like I'm stumped like so and then I just seen the reaction from that shit like when I went to see in the reaction of followers and all that shit like and then just the type of motion that went to coming like the type of money that went to coming I'm like damn what is shit like a yeah like what yeah like what just happened like you think about sending him an open verse or anything I mean yeah You know, it's like, it's like, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:11 like, well, you got to make that one, you got to, you got to put on that one, for sure. So it wasn't no type of, like, when you seen a post you, you ain't sent a DM to, like, reach out? Yeah, yeah, I reached out of the gate. You tap back in with you yet? Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I send me some clothes and shit.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Oh, that's love. Yeah, for sure. I hadn't reached out of that gate. Like, boy, this shit can't be real. Yeah, that was hard. That was a hard close sign right there. I could do music, though, because you see, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:38:40 Rick Ross and him, You feel like Florida might have to stay away from Toronto right now. Like the OVO goons and Canada punch Ross in the face when you see shit like that. I don't think Florida is that United. I ain't a lot like. I don't got. He's just really on some shit. Like, bro, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:38:55 I didn't do it all over. That's that. That's that. That's something so far gone shit. That's way out of my brain. I don't even got to do that. You got to just make sure that nobody gets a clip of you nodding your head to not like us in the club. Because that's what they be doing to everybody now.
Starting point is 00:39:10 If they get you nod on your head to it, it's like, boom, blog post. Drake ain't going on foot with the nigga no more? Yeah, yeah. It's going on. You get some shit with Drake, though. I feel it, I feel it. I feel it. I got some music or y'all? He ain't got no music. He was just playing your shit on the story, too. I think of it.
Starting point is 00:39:49 David Legend in Florida for sure. Definitely. Have you talked about doing music with him as well? Shout on to. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, it's like the music shit. It was really just like, you know, just vibing. Just appreciating, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:40:05 I love. I'm really about the music shit, you know. Definitely. Okay, what else we got here? I even got more questions about, because you've been going on wrong, like, you, boss man, Dilo, y'all just did some shit um um
Starting point is 00:40:20 y'all like the avengers right now in florida yeah i ain't gonna lie for d'ilo man that boy came that boy came in this shit strong how'd you guys become friends oh shit it's just really like um I hadn't reached out deal a minute ago before his any of his music pop though
Starting point is 00:40:37 type of shit like yeah uh he was gonna come up so I uh you know I reached out to him I was really fucking way and that boy just fuck around that boy just fucking You know what I'm saying? Like I say, he came in this shit strong. Now, when we talk about, like, putting the time in and the studio and shit,
Starting point is 00:41:00 you could tell that he's definitely somebody who just really puts the time in and spends time just, like, focusing on how every bar is going to sound a little bit special. Like, he just puts that extra little effort into each thing he says, and it just really takes the songs to a different level. Yeah, yeah, he got his sound. That boy got that sound on that. He didn't feel in you, like, he ain't sound like, he ain't sound of lazy on that, but he comes insane energy.
Starting point is 00:41:28 you get the same deal every time, man. Did you know that the Obama runs were fake at first? Nah. That's one thing I learned from talking to young LB who's the founder of runs is that at first when people started posting
Starting point is 00:41:42 up Obama runs, that's just something that somebody made and then they had to like start making it because it had so much hype behind it. They're like, I guess we've got to make an official version. Yeah, I don't know if I ran had too much motion with that shit. Nah, you get a popular weed brand off the ground. They bootlegging everything.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Yeah. I've been to people's studios and seen just piles of fake packaging and just realize like, oh, you guys are just running a whole empire out here selling fake wood. The cornerstone, they be having packaging and shit. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy. That's the, if you get a popular weed brand, it's like you're going to lose control of that brand name at a certain point.
Starting point is 00:42:19 It's got to be tough. Yeah. Man, like, you just got to have a unique shit going on to want to. It's whatever. Can't get their hands on that shit. You know what I'm saying? Right. So how much weed do you think you smoke?
Starting point is 00:42:29 Because I know as you and your boys both are all smoking heavily. That's a very common theme in the music. Is that a big part of your day-to-day life? Oh, shit. But I want to say, like, I'd be blowing down crazy because, like, I'd be getting too hot sometimes. Yeah. I'd be trying to slow down on smoking. Same here, man.
Starting point is 00:42:55 I don't think about how much, how many blunts I used to smoke back in the day, and I'm just like, I can't do that shit anymore. It just tires me out. In terms of having conversations on camera, especially, it's just hard to stay focused when you high as fuck. Oh, God. But I feel like music-wise, you can be high as fucking still make pretty good music,
Starting point is 00:43:11 but I also don't think that's probably ideal for everybody. Nah, it helped, but it's like sometimes, but you can't be getting over, you can't be getting overthold and thinking, you know what I'm saying? I used to do that shit, and the music I would make. I should use just time ass.
Starting point is 00:43:31 You know what I mean? But your flow is so laid back that I feel like it could kind of be an asset, but maybe it's possible to overdo it as well. Yeah, I'm saying, overdoing. He said this your first time you're young people in Cali, though, right? Oh, really? Yeah, so what's the vibe?
Starting point is 00:43:55 It's been out here from? Well, you just got it. You just got ahead of day. I ain't really caught the wolf. I don't, you know what I'm saying? I rode through, but I ain't really catching the wolf. I see what going on So now you're really going to be able to tap in
Starting point is 00:44:08 You got any wrecking the huge trying to see where he should do For first time being in Cali For getting weed or just for seeing shit? Hmm That's a good question I mean the obvious shit is like Santa Monica Pier Hollywood Boulevard That's all the same and shit
Starting point is 00:44:22 Should go to Melrose, walk around on Melrose and shit Definitely those are all like Kind of touristy spots Like if you really want to see the trenches Probably should get a good tour guide going Yeah, yeah. I don't want to get involved in that. I don't know who you should tap in with, but...
Starting point is 00:44:37 Nah, for sure. You know, I'm all right, you know. Yeah, so, like, if someone, like, we go to Tallahassee, where should we go? What's out there for us to do? Shit, there ain't really too much to do. You hit you a little bar or some shit, that's about it. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:44:53 You got, um... You ain't got no strip clubs and stuff out there? Yeah, nah, you know, we're the capital, and then, you know, they got out of college and shit. Oh, yeah, it's a lot of that shit, yeah. So, for the most part, where y'all are going? when y'all want to duck off and have fun and shit where's the nearest town where y'all go turn up that shit hang a lot we go like to where they end of like the bitch that go to miami yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:45:19 what's it like for you out in the miami that shit live in myama the down south pierre braw or in myama but it's a different planet when you get down to miami in terms of the clubs and the crazy glitzy nightlife stupid rich shit going on like that that compared to tell azis you just got to feel like a million miles away. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I ain't a lot of that shit feel different, but it's like, now I'm used to it.
Starting point is 00:45:48 I'm like, I don't, I don't kind of been down there, like, I don't been dying enough for a little minute, so shit, a nigga,
Starting point is 00:45:55 you know, I don't really feel different or more, but some of that shit be feeling crazy still sometimes, like, some of them clubs I go to, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:04 I ain't used to going to, like, the major, major clubs like that, like to live and all that shit, you know what I'm saying? So, a nigga,
Starting point is 00:46:11 a nigga going to live, a nigga be like, like, like, you look around like other fucking. But not like, I don't get used to it. I'm starting, I'm going to move around like that. Like I said,
Starting point is 00:46:24 my first time. First one of all the color, right? So, like, yeah, I ain't never really been around, you know what I was, I'd be feeling kind of out of pocket. Mm.
Starting point is 00:46:32 I mean, when you're in the club and you look over and you see like a bunch of white dudes in their section and they got their shirts unbuttoned and they just waving bottles around and shit like that, it's got to be a little intimidating.
Starting point is 00:46:41 Like, This is a totally different planet. Yeah, but I'd be understanding that shit, though. Like, you just got to know how this shit be, shit. Got those clubs, doing different bracket clubs, you feel. You got, like, like, they walk in those clubs, bitch, you went there with me. You ain't in the whole, like, hole in the wall, shit. Where this shit, the trenches, bitch, we thought that.
Starting point is 00:47:02 So you're going to see some different shit in that, you know what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. Definitely. Do you consider Tallahasse to be the kind of place that's crazy enough that you're trying to kind of relocate as quickly as possible or like is it not such a consideration since your music is not like super aggressive and and whatnot? Nah, I got that shit. I left around that bit.
Starting point is 00:47:25 Okay, you already moved. Yeah. The city, that's shit crazy. Like, it's small. Like, it's, it ain't really too, like, you know, too much of a city that would be spoken on. Like, but, man, that's shit crazy. And it's just always smarter and safer for, like, especially if you make a name, your hometown, you're probably going to have more people
Starting point is 00:47:44 hating in that area. Yeah, yeah, you're going always airs coming out your city for sure if you're doing it, you know what I'm saying? That's just how that shit be. It's like, it's best for you to just move because you know, it's on both and shit. Shit going to come
Starting point is 00:48:00 to you in the streets and the police going to f*** you just for you being who you is and move around still in the, like still in the area, they're still a bother, you know what I'm saying, just for you being who you is. And me being the, the, the, the, nigga I am for runaway like my running is or the police like going to jail back and forth like just being who I am like shit they're gonna f*** for me that's how we got there
Starting point is 00:48:22 yeah I just write the lead that shit I have a question what's coffee zone coffee zone is that I ain't a lot of gas at a restaurant oh it's a restaurant okay yeah because they have a song with him and a bunch of the other Florida Avengers it's like what 4 a.m at coffee zone and that just like really stood out to me like most people aren't drinking coffee at 4 a.m. Yeah, it's a restaurant that I bitch gas, man. I'd be open to 4 a.m. And you guys just happened to film the video there, or was it just a theme? Type shit, we just end up pulling up over that band.
Starting point is 00:48:58 Shot a video. You drink coffee? Yeah, I know. No? No caffeine in general? I drink soda. Okay. But no, like, Red Bulls or coffee?
Starting point is 00:49:11 Oh, yeah, I drank red Bull. Okay. Well, you all, like, wake up? up and have to get a red bow. Yeah, no. Oh, okay. It's like a random fact or a hobby that people probably want to know that Wizz partakes in. They were like, man, Wizz don't do this.
Starting point is 00:49:30 Shit, I drink looking every day. What's you drinking? Don Julio. I ain't a lot of Don Julio done. I need to sponsor me. I drink that shit every day. Like, I want some thawl shit. Like, to the point of which I wake up in the morning.
Starting point is 00:49:53 I face a cup of liquor. bitch I go out of eat I gotta get liquor bitch breakfast I gotta get a like Damn how long you've been like that Do you might have an issue with it? Nah
Starting point is 00:50:10 I just be really looking at like shit Man I'm enjoying life Bitch ain't a lot But if you have to wake up And drink it with breakfast That's probably Not the best sign right You just gotta put you something
Starting point is 00:50:21 You gotta put you a chase And I'm Orange juice or something But you gotta go pot that man Why you just start drinking So often though You said like eight months ago you started really just
Starting point is 00:50:37 going with it every day. I'm a substitute. You're a lean guy for a while. Yeah, shit. But you felt back like right around the time your music really started moving, huh? That's how to shit. Just lean is not a great thing
Starting point is 00:51:06 for your future. It's just tough. It's hard to be successful when you drink a lane every day. I'm gonna be real. I should do it to you. Yeah. What about any other drugs of choice?
Starting point is 00:51:17 Like you'll fuck with, like you'll f*** zans, purks or anything? I ain't, you know what I'm saying? That's the whole. the perks of shit. How long you've been doing that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:44 So you f*** the Julio purrs more. Which one you feel like you got to? The Julio. Where? Bobbing a perk and then drinking liquor seems like a good idea until you drink a little too much liquor and then you can start to feel like a bad idea pretty quickly. Nah.
Starting point is 00:51:58 No. You be vibing off of it? Yeah. Is that the formula for like making music and shit? Like if you in the studio, that's what you're on too? Tite shit? Yeah, if I ain't, I don't like a little, I don't really like recording like that. that like I record but I don't be feeling I don't be feeling comfortable on that on like
Starting point is 00:52:15 on some shit you know what I'm saying who are your favorite rappers from Detroit shit I ain't gonna lie because I got a whole list of they guys ain't even count with you no crazy shit but like viz face peasy lows nutty like you know what I can keep going I really is a lot of it out of it. Because I feel like your style is kind of influenced by some of the shit they got going on over there and then like certain collaborations I heard you on and stuff. I'm like, oh, okay, he seems like he's
Starting point is 00:52:47 a big fan of the Detroit style. Nah, for sure. Come, like, just even before I started a new shit, like, and then you used to been listening to them. So, like, listen to them, kind of, like, motivated me on some shit just to really speak my mind on this shit.
Starting point is 00:53:02 And we're just talking their shit, you know what I'm saying? They having fun with it. If you're hearing. So that's kind of where I got that shit from. Like, just coming on the beach, how I come on them bitch, Santa's shit that shit. How did you first end up making music with these? Shit, it was really awesome shit.
Starting point is 00:53:23 Like, you know, my team kind of like had, you know, like put it together type of shit. But, like shit, after that, shit, we had that, you know, we locked in. That's a bit, bro. Definitely. And you guys have a song called. M&M.
Starting point is 00:53:42 Yeah, yeah. Are you a fan? Yeah, what are your thoughts on Eminem? Shit. No, he's down. You're his latest project? He's your drop? Nah, yeah, really.
Starting point is 00:53:58 All right, for sure. It just came out, probably, like, last week I'll leave. I just saw I was getting destroyed in the M&M Reddit for talking bad about it. Yeah, you got to respect, I'm no. He ain't like, you got to respect. I'm not. He wanted them, for sure.
Starting point is 00:54:09 It can be tough to tell your grandfather that his music ain't what it used to be. Yeah, yeah. That's what it feels like. Yeah. Who's somebody that inspire you, like, in the music game right now? That you look up to that you're like, yeah, I'll take what they do and kind of like make it a part of my shit. Or you can just look up to what they got going on or how they move.
Starting point is 00:54:30 I ain't like a lot like, really like the OGs type shit right now. You know, like, they got a big influence on me right now. Like the Gucci, the GZ, you know what I'm saying? Got it. Like, you know what I'm saying? a nigga trying to really bring back that type of way, type of shit. You know what I'm saying? Definitely.
Starting point is 00:54:50 And Gizi actually reached out to you at one point, right? Yeah, yeah, I got a song with GZ. He don't know of the remix. Was that a crazy experience making that? Yeah, like, basically, you know, I ain't leaked up when he made that bit, but when that big came back, it's like, damn, bitch, like, I got, I got GZ on a song with me, bitch. He don't reach out to too many, like, new younger artists.
Starting point is 00:55:13 especially if he's not signing him. Like a lot of older artists are not really going to work with the artists unless they can sign them. The last, the last photo artist before me, I remember that I had a reverse phone was yet probably. And then shit, like, I felt like, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:30 I felt stout after that, like, which I'm stouted out of here. How you know, Colorado get locked in? Shit, you know, really, you know, shit, I've been fucking with the music and shit, but, you know, it just reached out. Shit, you know. I just always show love to him
Starting point is 00:55:45 type shit, you know how that shit be Was it like an in-person or y'all just like Swap songs? Nah, I ain't never really, I ain't got a song yet But I just, you know It's just mutual shit, you know I just ran to them a few times, you know Just politic and shit like that
Starting point is 00:56:04 Who would you put on the Florida Mount Rushmore? If you had to choose four people Who you feel like did it the biggest Or just on the stamped forever in Florida history of rapping, who would you choose? A spot. I'm gonna get a goddamn, gotta get a treat out of that.
Starting point is 00:56:40 All right, for sure. So you got one more. You gotta give it to Ross. Oh, yeah. A lot of nigs might say plies, too, those. No, no, I give it the plies. I give it the plies. I give it a prize.
Starting point is 00:57:01 Yeah, I like, I prize like for the trenches. What drew you to applause? Because a lot of, like, a lot of street cats in Florida, they f***as. What do you? What did you see in them that made you Friottled? Jeff Brack. He was just a music.
Starting point is 00:57:20 He was making as a shit. Like, brother really, really giving the nigga game. Like, listen to that shit. Like, bro, brother telling real stories. Bro, telling you know how it is. Like, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:57:33 So Plas, one of them, he was like, me coming up. Like, you know, like, I probably named, like the generation before me, they coming up.
Starting point is 00:57:42 They had tricked out of that and shit. Like, plazas was a lot of. that it takes you like for my generation i say type of shit how much respect did you gain for trump when he uh narrowly survived being shot in the ear the other day by a sniper man trump a fucking lid man trump lid i here man that shit crazy like of all the people that we know survived shootouts like that is a pretty pretty crazy story to just have a sniper snip your fck and you're totally good like that i know so many people have been in shootouts I never really heard something quite like that
Starting point is 00:58:16 That's crazy I ain't like yeah it's crazy What Trump wanted to Trump He Trump him Trump that man Yeah you gotta get it to him That was a wild one Lazz ain't rocking with Trump
Starting point is 00:58:28 He thought that shit was fake stage That's all type of man Coddap was saying the same shit Co-Dak said Niggas riding behind Trump this time How do you feel like What do you feel like it's a change in Florida You feel like more people going with Trump
Starting point is 00:58:49 versus last year Because I don't know if they voted rare last year, but it seemed like more people who are down with Trump this time around than they work. The tide is swinging in his favor, for sure. Black people in general, because I one point we were like on the fence about it, but now
Starting point is 00:59:04 it seems like more black people definitely riding with Trump or accepted it. In 2016, Kanye's supporting Trump was like the most controversial thing in the world, and now all kinds of rappers and people in the culture coming out in favor of Trump and nobody gives the fuck. It's just like totally normal out of now. Man, shit.
Starting point is 00:59:19 Like it's Trump world out of this bitch, man. Trump got shit going on. Yeah. No, he definitely. For sure. So, okay, what do you got a plan in terms of moves you're trying to make or what you feel like you need to do in your career to make it to the next level now? Oh, shit, really. I ain't know why I just got to keep working and networking, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:59:41 Like, politics and rubber shoulders, you know what I'm saying? It's just figuring this shit out, you know, step by step. But at the end of the day, like I say, man, man, thing. you gotta keep working experiment, you know what I'm saying? Because if you just make the right song, there's one night you just happen to hit the right flow on the right beat,
Starting point is 01:00:01 that could send your whole career out of control. You know, that could be the biggest moment in your whole career and you won't know until you just happen to make that song. Yeah, that way I try to stay in the Stuka. If I'm moving around and shit, or if I'm bullshit, Lollagagga not in the studio,
Starting point is 01:00:17 I might miss that moment, you know what I mean? Some of the shit, which I got to be in there. What would be like your dream feature? Shit, my dream feature, I ain't know. Even if it ain't one person, but a couple people that you know that you want to work with when it's all of a sudden and done. I got to get some shit with dream right way.
Starting point is 01:00:42 Yeah, for sure. Right, my favorite. All my favorite rappers with it, I got to just get something in there. What's ATM? What's it stand for, though? Nice. Well, I'm a big fan. I'm looking forward to the next projects and everything.
Starting point is 01:01:11 You definitely got a crazy movement going And I like seeing like a new face Like what a Florida rapper can look like Because it feels like you and DeLo And all these dudes are kind of like Like opening up the box In terms of like what a young Florida rapper Can look like
Starting point is 01:01:26 So I'm a big fan of the whole movement Nah for shit show we bring We bring this Florida shit Like we're making this shit go over for We put this shit on the mouth Even though you know what I was on the map But like I want some young nigga shit We put this shit on the mouth for sure
Starting point is 01:01:40 Hell I definitely We are for show. Yeah. Whiz having. Appreciate you, man. Thank you so much for coming through. I can't forget the goals. No, for sure, man.
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