No Jumper - Wizz Havinn on his Florida Upbringing, Dissing Foolio, BossMan Dlow & More
Episode Date: July 25, 2024Wizz Havinn talks about his early days, being a wild kid, how he started rappin', Foolio, Drake, Boston Richey and more. ----- Get the latest news & videos http://nojumper.com CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE S...TORE!!! https://shop.nojumper.com/ NO JUMPER PATREON / nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT / 4874336901 Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4z4yCTj... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: / 4874336901 / nojumper / nojumper / nojumper / nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: / discord Follow Adam22: / adam22 / adam22 / adam22 adam22bro on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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No jumper.
Coolest podcast on the world.
I'm in here with my man Remo today,
and we're having a conversation with one of my favorite artists coming out of Florida right now.
Wiz Haven is on the podcast.
How you living, man?
Man, I'm chilling, man.
I was going out.
Super Whiz.
Yeah.
It's going on.
It's good to have you on here.
You know, I'm like real tapped into the new wave of what's going on coming out of Florida.
I feel like you're one of the guys at the forefront of that.
No, I'm for sure.
For show, yeah.
I mean, I actually regret that I didn't get a chance to say this to Kodak,
but I wanted to ask him what he's,
what he thought about the next generation of dudes coming out of Florida.
Because I feel like there's a whole wave of dudes coming out.
Like you, Lo Schimmy, Lil Tyler, Bossman Delo, obviously, who aren't...
Like, I feel like there was a whole wave of dudes who, I don't want to call him Kodak clones,
but basically Kodak clones for a long time.
And now it finally feels like there's like a lot of new energy coming out of Florida,
which is kind of exciting.
Yeah, yeah, we bring some new shit to the table.
They ain't seen out of Florida.
So, you know, it is...
I think that's what got that shit, like going how it's going around,
because, you know, it's a lot of flavors coming out of there right now.
Definitely.
I feel like you are, like, one of these dudes who's, like, super laid-backed.
You kind of, I know rappers don't like to be compared to other rappers and stuff,
but it almost reminds me of, like, a V's or, I don't know,
just like a level of, like, laid-backness that people really appreciate
and just how smooth and cool you are with it.
I definitely, you know what I said?
I definitely got a big influence from V's most definitely.
Hell yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
So tell us a little bit about exactly where you're coming from.
I'm from Tallahassee, Florida.
You know what I'm saying?
Souts out of Tallahassee.
Coming from the bricks, you know what I'm saying, to the red.
You know, really, same shit, you know, same struggles as everybody's hood.
You know, same shit going on.
What makes Tallahassee stand out compared to the rest of Florida from your perspective?
I say, really, we just be on our own type of time.
You know what I'm saying?
We just got our own, everybody got it.
Like, everybody that's coming with something like,
some different shit, you know what I'm saying?
Because they used to see in most of the regular Florida shit,
like, you know, like the basic Florida shit.
But, you know, we came with, like, a different way.
Like you said, like, people was used to hearing the same Florida sounds,
some shit when I say, like, us Talashtra rapper shit,
we brought a whole new sound to this shit, like, you know what I'm saying?
Definitely.
What you think, started putting Talasi on the mat?
Like, because it seemed like there's a focus on it with you and a little toddler
and everybody come up out of it.
Yeah, it's just like really like shit
I don't know, it was just like some shit
Just came in the wind
Like it's like shit
Boston Park and Tyler popped
And I went up and you know what I'm saying
You got more people coming up
Out of there to us a lot more people coming
But like at that moment
That just what was going on
It's like that shit just caught
And it was like flames just
You know what I'm saying
All of just had a way that just
Kind of like got us in the door and shit
You feel?
Definitely
So what was your upbringing like
In terms of your parents
and what sort of area you were grown up in?
Shit, single mom, you know what I'm saying?
I really grew up on the rid and most of the time, you know what I'm saying?
But it's really like basic shit.
Mom's trying to make shit happen.
You know, pops ain't really around.
You know what I'm saying?
Needs just trying to figure it out.
Just bumping my head a few times.
I said, shit, I went to a whole lot of juvenile programs and shit like that.
Right.
You got arrested a shitload of time when you were real young?
Yeah, yeah.
You got rushed like 10 times or something.
Yeah, my first.
My first charge I had got, I was a 13.
And then after that shit, I just kept going back really in the juvenile system until I was 18.
And as soon as I turned 18, I caught a charge.
What did you get caught up with at 18?
Or at 13.
That's right.
On robbery.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, yeah.
Who put you onto that?
Nah, I was just on some hot shit.
I ain't allowed.
I was a bad ass shit.
But I was sneaky, though.
So a lot of people ain't really know what I was up to, but I was hot a fuck.
So from a young age, you were just trying to figure out how to get some money one way or another?
Yeah, but really at first, I wouldn't really, it wasn't even bought the money.
I ain't a lot of a niggily was just really out here, like, trying to basically, like, get a name type of shit.
Really?
At first, you know what I'm saying?
I'm done, I jumped out of the porch like 11, so a nigga, I'd be trying to get a name.
First, I wasn't really looking at the money and shit like that.
Why you feel like you jumped onto the Porsche so early?
Shit, it's just the influence, you know what I'm saying?
Like being around it, growing up in the environment, it's like, I didn't really have no choice.
to go, you know what I'm saying, test the waters and see what it's like.
So from your perspective, though, were you trying to get a name for, like, the older dudes?
Or was it more just for, like, the people your age that you were in school with and shit?
It's like, I really just want to name just all around the border, like, with everybody, like, shit.
The older people, the younger people.
Like, they were just trying to get a name just on some street shit.
You're hearing?
Mm-hmm.
Just putting it down on some street shit, you know what I'm there?
Definitely.
So in Tallahassee, though, like, one of the big draws there is a college, right?
Yeah, yeah.
So is it kind of like there's just a lot of neighborhoods
And then the college is kind of like what brings in a lot of like tourists and people from out of town and shit
Yeah, most likely because like the college is really in like family
That shit like down there like literally in the hood so like
Oh it is okay so yeah, like it's basically like just a few minutes away so
The shit really like kind of bunched in but fSU kind of expanding and they got their own shit going on so like
The tours they come for shit like that like you know what I'm saying the the football games and shit like that
Just a really sighty and shit like that.
Do you guys look at the college students as potential licks?
Is that like a common attitude for a young person coming up out of there?
I mean, hell, yeah.
I mean, like, everybody looked like that.
But, you know, it's like, it's like on some shit.
You know, it's a lot of college students that actually come and kind of down to become a local.
You know what I'm saying?
And they kind of move around, dip and die.
But really, like, 90% of it don't even come out to campus.
Is there a spot called hip hop chicken and fish?
Yeah, yeah.
And I believe it's owned by DJ Coward's uncle.
I don't even know, but I know that bitch, gas.
They got a crack that go on top of that shit.
That shit, gas.
I just remember seeing it like 20 years ago when I was out riding bikes going to FSU
and just being around in Florida and stuff.
And I remember driving by and thinking, that's a crazy-ass name for a chicken and fish spot.
And then I googled it and figured out that it was DJ Callid's uncle, at least at one point.
Yeah, that shit.
I'm like, that shit, guys, I want the best spot.
Okay, good to know.
But, okay, when you get locked up once, though, are you,
does it kind of give you a reality check of like, damn,
I could end up going to prison for a long time or anything,
or is that just motivate you?
Hell no, I was 13.
I was on some dumb shit.
I'm like, shit.
Going into detention, you got things, shit.
We're on some hood shit.
You know, everybody, we're pushing all the clicks out of the hood.
So when we're going that bit, you know, shit.
I'm in hell with it.
I'm in hell with the members, bitch.
I'm like, shit, we get no niggas ass and I'm bucking, and I'm having fun and enjoying it.
So it's like, at the moment, nigga on some shit like, man, I can do this shit again.
I catch another chore.
This shit ain't nothing.
You feel?
I do my time.
That's how I'm thinking.
But shit, that shit was stupid.
Really?
Just looking back on it, you just were too concerned with your reputation and not just getting some money?
Because obviously, like, as an adult, you look at it, like, the goal is to commit crimes, make money, and not get caught, and maybe be able to pivot out of that shit.
shit. But when you're young, you kind of want the accolades. It's the thrill. Like, it was really
the thrill, just constantly doing the shit. You know what I'm saying? Just constantly being able to do
the shit. The high speeds, running from the police to get into shit. Like, it was just a thrill
that shit, like, at first, you know what I'm saying? But then, that's when it became, like,
as a little bit, that's when it became, like...
You got tired of that shit? Yeah, like, bitch, I got to get some money.
What was the longest bid you sat down for?
Like, what, it was like 14 months?
And what was that for?
about that father.
Oh, yeah.
So that was part of the game as well?
You were a kid boy?
Yeah, no, no, no.
We were getting all the type of shit.
We would get kids, but we was having our type of shit, though.
So you steal the car?
What are you going to do with it?
Shit, we either find out running this bitch,
or we're trying to, like, you know what I'm saying?
Go hit licks in this bitch, basically.
Like, we're using this bitch to get to Licks.
Like, they get the Mok calls, really, go find more cars.
You know what I'm saying?
But we just, it's one of the ones, like, shit, and they come across a little slide of some foreign shit.
Nika might have to slide a maybe for a few days, you know what I'm saying, and pop out right quick.
The craziest shit I saw when I was watching a Channel 5 documentary about the Kia Boys in Connecticut or some shit,
and they were talking about they steal a car and sell over $100 in the hood.
I ain't a lot of niggas. It's like, niggas was selling splats and shit, but that's what we call them.
We call them splats.
Niggins are selling them shit, but it's like, entirely we ain't got no chalk shop.
Like, we ain't got nothing of that shit.
So it's like, you just, bitch, just do what you do free will.
A nigga buy it off you, you know what I'm saying?
I mean, from what I got from that documentary is basically like, if you're selling it for $100
in the hood, you are selling it to somebody who's planning on using it to go slide on somebody.
Oh, shit.
I don't know.
You know, I don't.
Right, yeah, I'm sure you never knew anything about that.
Yeah.
That's bad kid shit.
Yeah, that's a lot of shit.
So you got caught up when you're 18?
Yeah, yeah.
What was that one for?
Like, as soon as you kind of entered into being an adult.
in the legal system?
It really like, shit, just a little simple position.
You know what I'm saying?
A little can position.
Oh, you're a cane on you.
You're a fan?
I used to be a big fan.
No.
You were just getting it off?
Emotion.
I'm saying?
How'd you get caught with that, though?
I got pulled over on some fruit.
I went to go, I went to grab some off from more people's and shit.
I put it in the projects.
Yeah.
Police around, they follow me, pulled me over.
But I had license at the time, but I thought my shit was still, you know what I'm saying, valid.
But shit, they're like, nah, you're just suspended.
And step out of the car, I quit.
So they searched that bit found and shit like that, you know.
So is that when you had to go sit down for 14 months?
Nah, hell not.
That was for the GTA, right?
Yeah, that was for the GTA.
That was my third June-hour program right now.
Okay.
And did anything change in your mind after that time, being locked up as an adult?
Yeah, yeah, I'm like, I can't be in no county jail.
I bundled out of them.
I'm like, well, I can't go.
I ain't trying to see the back of that bit here.
No, that's not it.
I'm like, went to the juvenile shit.
I'm like, why ain't that county jail?
So the juvenile shit's kind of fly,
and then the county jail is like a bunch of old-ass dustheads and shit?
No, it's like the juvenile shit bug out
because you had a whole bunch of kids and then bitch is,
you feel, me, just really with no filter, you know what I mean?
So that shit just bored out.
But I was saying like shit, a nigga was fed up or being locked up.
I did it so much as a jet.
So it's like, but I ain't trying to be in this shit.
I was in the door.
Right.
So when did you like, I'm going to try this rapping shit?
I tried.
I tried the rapping shit when I did them 14 months for the GTA.
I was raining a little shit, you know what I'm saying?
But when I got out, it's like, I ain't really want to do that shit.
You know, I was dipping and diving with it.
But I just tried to ride shit.
After I did my first bid in the county jail, I did four months and that bit.
After I got the position and all that shit, I got on probation, violated shit like that.
You know what I'm saying?
Then when I violated, I had to go lay down for like four months.
So shit, throughout that time, I'm like, man, I'm going to try this route.
Shit, I got out, tried it.
Was you writing rap since then jail?
Like, you was focused the whole four months?
Like, I'm going to get out and do this?
Hell, no, I had writers blocking that bitch.
I just was like, man, I'm going to just get out and try that.
ride. Like, I'm just to get out
and just getting in front of the mic and do that shit.
Definitely. So, okay,
was there anybody that you were looking at
as you were a young guy, like, that you were seeing
having success with the rap shit, or
who are you looking at? I mean, not out
the city, but, like, as
a jay, I always usually look at, like,
cheek, like, bees watch cheek
documentaries as jah. I was probably, like,
11, 10, watching
them shit's like, now what this thing is gone?
Like, you feel? And then, like,
really, the man,
the main the main nigga who a niggil was paying attention to it like yak and shit you feel
me so like the nigga paying attention to him coming up you know what I'm saying that's what kind of
made me like bitch I want I got to turn up too you know what I'm saying that shit kind of motivated me
definitely so how do you start working on the rap shit though when you get out
that shit really just being around it like my cousin's split shit he was rapping he already had a few
songs I was kind of jumping and then Boston jumped off with the shit so it's like I'm
kind of already around there.
So, like, I just
felt around and jumping that bitch and just
made some shit right quick.
And then after that,
I was like, man, let me try that shit one more time.
Let me beat. And then I got a little more serious
with it. And then I dropped one song.
And after that, that shit, that shit went up.
And what song was that that you dropped that started
getting you like some attention in the tally?
That bill was called EasyE.
The EasyE joint, all right.
And what was your knowledge of EasyE
leading up to that? Because I feel like you're kind of young,
to be an EZE fan, and you're from the wrong part of the country.
I grew up worshipping EZE.
Nah, for sure.
I ain't a lot.
I just, like, just the whole movement of the NWA shit
and just easy itself.
Like, bro, it was just a smooth-ass, nigga.
Like, and how he used to just come on them shit was just, like, effortless,
but that shit was hard as fuck.
Like, he was laid back on some player shit.
Like, he went on that bitch, like, trying to yell, scream.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
He had his own, he had his own swag by that stuff.
You feel?
Yeah, I think I had that at NWA.
he was the most official one.
Yeah, he was like that.
He was like the one like that.
Like that ain't like, bro, like popping shit like on some smooth shit.
And so that song just took off right away?
You just put it on YouTube and it went crazy?
Or do you have to like do anything to make it start going up?
No, I really put it on soundcloth.
Shit, when I put it on soundcloth, I ain't really pay too much attention to it.
But when people start coming up to me like, well, you are if I heard that EZ.
Yeah.
And Lamar Jackson and fucking around it.
And post it.
And when he posts, I'm like, damn, what a fuck.
Like, my shit is spraying now.
So from there, it's like, shit.
That's what I mean really, really go back to the stool.
Like, I got to make some old shit.
Definitely.
And at this time, Boston Richie in his songs, going crazy?
Yeah, yeah.
What song he got out right now that's going crazy?
Um, B-Hack out now.
Bull's eye.
All right, so Bullsard in rotation at this time.
Yeah, keep this and, you know, all that shit was going on.
You feel like me?
Like, shit was, you know what I'm saying?
and shit was in motion.
So my face right in the middle of it.
So, like, when that shit first popping off,
it's like, you know, my face in the middle of it.
And when I finally got focused with the rash shit,
that shit, it's feeling pleased.
Yeah, because you be, I see you a lot
in, like, a lot of Boston Richie videos and shit
getting your face card up.
Nice, you know.
You guys, yeah.
So, like, with you in Boston,
rich relationship?
Like, how long y'all you've been known each other?
You knew them before the rap shit?
Yeah, yeah.
Man, we've been knowing each other.
Two down.
Yeah, I'm from the same.
He's from the same.
He from the South.
Yeah, we're from.
We all from the South.
Yeah.
So how did I originally meet and link up?
And what was y'all friendship based off?
Just really on some shit.
Like, a young nigga grinding, you know,
he's just one of the ones that just, you know,
motivating a nigga on some shit.
Always motivating a nigga,
showing a little different shit, you feel?
Me, keeping the nigga out of the way.
So, you know, we just locked in.
Then shit, when he went up with the rap shit,
it's like, shit, bill.
It's shit just the same thing.
It's just a different lane.
Nice music.
you feel? Definitely. Was there anything in particular that he told you that helped you,
you know, skip some of the hard steps of being a rapper, any particular game that he put you on?
I mean, basically, just the main thing really just, he just really showed a nigga that word at there.
Like, you just keep music, like, you know what I'm saying? Keep recording.
Gotta keep music. Because as long as you got music, I've got four thousand songs.
Shit, a thousand of them bitches are gonna make you, you know what I'm saying?
you where you want to be at you know what I'm saying no that work ethic is super important because a lot of
people think that they're going to make like one song make a couple songs and that their job is over
when all the successful rappers I know are the people who are like it don't matter when their project
came out or whatever they're always playing shows making music shooting videos just doing every single
day trying to find something to do to be productive and yeah I ain't like I'd be in the studio
every day I try to be in the everyday all night you feel I be trying to record as much as possible
because the nigga just like shit
the music is the part of you feel
me as long as you keep the part of shit
you sit straight for life
and the reason just going to be and just
think one song
gonna do it even just sit on one song
and drag out that shit
gonna have you dried up out you gotta have music in the clutch
you know what I'm saying just prepare any time
to drop shit you know what I'm saying
and even if it's like even if your hit
rate was like 5%
that's still like a very solid percentage you need to just go in there and just grind out these
songs because one of those times you're just going to hit yeah one's just going to hit
you know what I'm saying so like and even why you drop me you're still building a fan base
and shit it's a win-win regard everybody got different favorite songs yeah you know what I'm saying
definitely when uh Boston was dropping at that time before he blew up like what was the formula
for him that you seen work through like all right this shit going up shit really
just putting the effort in, like, just putting faith in this shit, you know what I'm saying?
Like, just really, like, taking that step to be like, man, I'm from, I'm from to do that shit.
Did you always see that?
Like, did you always see, like, ah, yeah, bro, for him to take off and be a superstar?
Yeah, yeah, but you got the thing, he never really made no music before.
So when he made his first song, like, damn, this shit, this shit sounds good, be like, you know what I'm saying?
So from that, it's like, shit, he just really just was perfecting his crowds, right?
Like I said, where he's the word.
he had to just always show that, man.
I just knew he was gonna do it.
Was it, I'm off-off.
Was it the situation where, like,
soon as he started dropping,
like, the whole city got behind him?
Yeah, yeah.
It's like, really, it's like,
shit just was a shocking point
because, like, bit, you know,
like, at the moment,
and really, like, for a long time,
we didn't really have no artists to pop.
You know, like, you know,
so, like, that shit was a shocking point.
Like, everybody, like, what the city?
Like, everybody's ruining.
Like, everybody's ruining.
You know what I'm saying?
That's just how the city is.
Everybody's going to root.
for you for sure like
because we ain't got no artists that
that ever really came from that
me, you feel like.
But I also feel like, you tell me if I'm wrong,
but like, I had
a clip of me talking about Bosman
Dilo and saying that I felt like he represented
something kind of new because it's like
it's not on some crazy killer shit.
It's not necessarily like on some gangster
shit. And when I listen to your shit,
I feel like kind of the same way. It's like
it's easier for the people to get behind it.
And it's, because it's just fly shit.
It's just, it's mostly just like relatable.
life shit and like for a while
now a lot of the fans seem like they're
mostly interested when they're
hearing about some crazy violent shit
and I feel like you guys kind of represent like
a different style where people are
maybe not as bloodthirsty
and they just want to hear some fly shit.
Yeah, hey yeah a nigga pushing on my positivity
and play a shit, you know what I'm saying?
That's what the nigga own,
but you know what I'm saying? Like shit
you guys what are the people want to hear?
You know what I need? But
like I say it, a nigga pushing positivity
and play that shit.
If you had some crazy beef going on
in your private life and then you get
in the booth, are you thinking about rapping about that
shit, or are you mostly going to like kind of ignore
whatever's going on in the streets?
Yeah, no, I ain't thinking about no, nigga.
I'm thinking about popping shit.
You know what I'm thinking about getting on this bit
talking shit, you know what I'm saying?
Talking about what I'm doing.
I ain't talking about those.
So you wouldn't even drop no ditch tracks if niggas was a dis you
would just be off-requent like shit.
I mean, it's,
the music shit, so, you know, in a way, but no, not really.
Nah, no, I mean, if a nigga's just going in, you know, me 24-7, just straight,
just going up, like, yeah.
Yeah, I'm probably, I probably might, listen, I probably might just go ahead and check it in
the song, and quiz just on some smooth shit, but I ain't fin to get on that, like, just flat-out
dissing the nigga, and I'm talking about, bitch, we're trying to do all this down
in the third, nah, that ain't, man, what type of name.
They just thought the Don Julio song was a folio disto.
Oh, come on.
Yeah, yeah, for sure, for us, you know, they took that around.
with it for sure but like I say like I said like shit to me I just was I was just keeping that shit
like brother like shit how everybody looked at that bro shit brother shit brother big is trod and you're like
shit that what they don't call now I see it yeah because the line was you was uh you said
I ain't doing no dissing or I ain't doing no trolling and I ain't foolio and all bro do is trod
like shit so but filio kind of got offended by it because like he made a story post he was
saying uh like bro ain't even from my city you ain't got no ops to beef within your
City, why you even speak up on my name and shit?
Yeah, I see that shit, but I ain't respond to it.
I mean, like I say, I'm not a troll, so I don't even want to do the internet
and shit anyway, but like I say, like, it wasn't even bullshit,
niggins just keeping that shit a stat.
Like, shit, I ain't trolling.
You feel, you're the main troll in the world right now, kind of, you know what I'm saying?
At that moment, you know what I'm saying?
You know, with folk, brother, daughter, whatnot, but he was the main trolled like shit.
But was there anything in particular that made you want to say that?
Like anything personal that had been going on that he had mentioned that made you want to throw his name in there?
Yeah, no, I'm just into school having fun.
What I was in?
Take it out, you take it.
I'm just recording.
Like, shit, music.
Kind of crazy, he ended up getting killed in your city.
No, man.
He got killed in Tampa.
Oh, I thought it was Palais.
No, Tampa.
My bad.
How far Tampa from town is you, though?
That's like.
Probably like four hours.
Yeah, what was your thoughts when you initially seeing?
Because, like, you know, bro, he'd be getting shot all the time.
So, like, people usually see Fulio, you know what I'm saying?
He'd be straight.
But this time is like, damn.
So what was your, the news?
What was your thoughts on the news when you heard that?
He checked this time.
It just really on some shit, like, shit, man.
I don't know shit.
Yeah.
They what it is.
Shit, niggas die every day, be.
Mm.
But y'all never really chopped it up after?
Like, when he made, when you made the song,
when you made that comment, I ain't never really have any words before.
You know, we got mutually, you know, we got people that we highlight mutually, you know what
saying?
Because he said he'd be kicking it with some of your homies or something.
I mean, yeah, you know, so, you know, we got word through a few people, you know,
when I really, that's good.
Definitely.
Do you, um, okay, so when would you start releasing music?
Like, when did you feel like you actually had your first, like, real viral hit?
When did it start to, like, go through the roof where you could really feel it?
I probably say like when I drop like
That's the song that put me on the mat to who you were
And that came out like 20-22
Yeah 22
Mold and like not worthy
I'm too right that kind of like put me like
In the door a little bit
You feel me? Oh and a nigga on freestyle
That's a little bit in the door too
All right for sure
Where did you record mode at
And what was it? Because I seen the video
Where you shot the video on Tele-Ixie too right
Yeah I recorded mode and um
And bra um
And braw at a fact
At a studio on the braw
And then I shot a video and tagli.
I shot half of the video on, Tyler, for family on coming.
But.
Yeah, I think a little Tyler in the video and boss of Richie, I think, right now?
Everybody was in that bitch.
But then I had on, I told him like, no, we got to wait until I get my,
to tie when I got my perms and shit.
So I waited, I set up appointment and shit when I got my shit.
And then finished the video then.
All right.
So in the video, that's when you was getting the perms?
Yeah.
All right, for show.
So that was like a priority once you started getting rap money?
You were just like the teeth had to be a.
Yeah, yeah, I had to, for sure.
Because it's looked down upon if you get pullouts in Florida, right?
Yeah.
But I mean, like, shit, it's like, to me, like, I ain't no nigga who, you know, talk about what a nigga do shit to teach his own.
You know what I'm saying?
You want to pull out.
You want to pull out.
But I'm going, but I'm going, you know what I'm going.
You know what I'm saying?
I feel like the grills are too painful to just, like, because I had one at one point and you put it on your teeth and it just hurts.
It feels weird.
It's like moving your teeth at all times.
Whereas, I wouldn't want to.
want to get my
fucking teeth
replaced with gold
but if you do
at some point
it's gonna just
feel normal in your mouth
right?
Yeah,
but then it's like
you don't want no
place neither though
because look at it
though like you might lose
them bitch
you gotta keep replacing them
them that makes you get
bent they can't fit
in your shit no more
you know what I'm saying
they break all type of shit
exactly like you go to a restaurant
and you got to take it out
and so you have the choice
of taking this thing
that costs like you know
I think mine was like
eight grand or whatever
and you could either
put it on the table
where you probably
gonna forget it or you could put it in your pocket
where you're probably gonna bend it. These are
like two very bad options.
And then when you do have it in your mouth, it just
feels uncomfortable. I'm sure some people
get used to it, but for me, I could not
rock with it. I had plays, though, like
as legit, I had plays.
I'm probably like 15, 16.
I had the same amount I got right now,
16, but my shit was
kind of like, I had a go into
them bitch and then my top had them broken half,
you feel? So, like,
like split down the middle four and four
so when I put that bitch in
it's like I can kind of floss right there
like you know what I'm saying like I was kind of
throwing bitch like I got perms
like you eat turns
with the grill too it makes your teeth
look so much bigger because it's like sitting on top
of the teeth whereas like with yours
it's like the same size that your teeth were
so it looks normal it's just gold
whereas like with the grill it just looks kind of
crazy on it like in Florida though
I ain't a lot like Florida you got some
grills like they got placed that
that that real deal like
look like these you know what I'm saying
that look like
perm
who started the trim where
it had to be perm
so you feel like
you gets credit for doing that in Florida
shit I ain't a lie
that's just some
that's some OG shit
shit
all the old heads from
my way they had perm
my daddy had perm
that's an old school shit
but it's not really just a tally thing
it's like a Florida thing
it's a whole state wide thing
like you know what I'm saying
Yeah, yeah
Are you just gonna rock with yours
The way they are
Or could you ever see yourself upgrading them?
I mean,
I like them how they is
But I'm gonna try the diamond shit
Just because
How much it costs to like goaded up?
Shit, like 7,000
Yeah, all right, so that ain't that crazy?
Yeah, it ain't too crazy
Yeah
What, um
How did you actually come up with the name?
Shit, the name is crazy
My dog, True
He locked up right now
He gave me the name
Wizard, you feel
me?
Like, the name N wizard.
Like, when they were just
Posty, like,
yeah, I said,
Wizard, like,
I'm gonna call it,
like,
you,
you wizard.
Like,
he just,
so,
maybe you call him
a wizard.
And it went to
Whiz for short.
And then the having,
shit,
I was just doing
on some shit,
like,
just like,
shit,
I'm having,
like,
but even around the time,
like,
shit,
n'n ain't having too much
but you're gonna have it,
like,
sauce,
n'n'n'n'n'n'n'
just like the whole
nigga, we're having game, like, a lot of shit.
So it meant, it really mean a lot of shit.
I don't really like me and just having money type of shit.
Yeah, and you were trying to speak it into existence, too,
because I'm sure you know a lot more money now than you have back then.
Yeah, yeah, fuck, yeah.
Right.
But, yeah, I was trying to definitely speak that shit into existence, for sure.
Even when I wasn't having money, I was having motion.
For shit, sure.
Nigger, I haven't moved, man.
Nigger having shit going on.
They were moving around.
I'm saying, niggum wasn't no scrub, man.
Is Dink, you related to Dane having?
Yeah, I'm all my fucking brother.
Worry, right.
Yeah, because Dank going on, too.
Yeah, man, I think going on.
That bit, I mean, that bitch just hit an M.
First ever song.
We're going to drop one song.
Let me hit an M.
It was like a couple months.
That shit, that shit crazy.
And he took the name on after you already had it?
Yeah, shit.
We just, we were hereby.
We just rocking that shit.
We haven't, bitch, we have it.
You know what I mean?
sure
definitely
so how do your family
react when you told them
you want to be a rapper
they weren't supportive
no at first
they thought I was gonna
they thought I was gonna
they thought a nigga of fool or shit
like
I'm gonna make some real money
off this shit
and basically like off a rap
like I'm like basically
you don't even got
like on some shit
like looking at like
this shit
like so how are you gonna do that
you know what I'm saying?
But that shit came fast though
definitely
yeah I mean it's hard
to see the vision when you know saying you can be a rapper is like the number one thing that people
say and they bullshit so if you actually like plan on taking a serious it can definitely be hard
to make people understand that you're really motivated or that you really got some some talent
yeah and it's like shit one and a million niggins make it rapping really like resources so like
how you really fun to do that like yeah they see the vision now all right yeah i mean i mean a lot of
people believe it with this shit like cow yeah who was the first people who was the first people
believing in you when your family necessarily didn't.
Who was pushing you to like, all right, this could work?
Shit, really, my dogs and shit, like,
Cud yard.
Like, my Cud, tell him like, Cud, tell him like, shit, bitch.
Do that shit.
My dogs rammed me.
Like, shit, man, do that shit, like, cuck.
You got that shit, like, you feel, me?
To just try that shit.
And then when I, and it's like, when it came by,
it's like, damn, why ain't been tried that shit?
That's what I was saying in my head.
Like, why I ain't been to do this shit?
Like, why is that?
Because you start thinking like, damn, if I had started when I was 16,
I could have been the lit-ass 16-year-old rapper.
It's like, it's always like that.
Even with podcasts, I've been doing this shit damn many of 10 years.
And I always think, like, man, if I had figured this shit out,
like four years before I did, I would have been, like,
the ultimate innovator, like, super early in the space.
But it's always like hindsight's 2020.
Yeah, I ain't a lot.
It's time, no.
That shit went well for him, I ain't a lot.
just in the time period i've been this year like two years so like with the two years that i went on
shit shit great crazy you know what i'm saying you start having uh labels reach out and everything
like that or yeah out of the gate you know what's and shit you know i had i had um you know
got in a situation probably like i say probably like after like down there now almost like going on
like a like a year-end type of shit and the music shit close to
to you. And it's like a major
label situation or like a management type
thing? No, it's distro type
shit. Oh, okay. Yeah. And is
that helped you, you think, in your progression?
Yeah, yeah. I ain't a lot of
that shit helped me major. Like, that's what
really, and that's what kind of like
really, like, really, like, motivated me, like, really, like,
get to, get to record for it.
Like, it's like, seeing
other people, like, believe in what the thing
that's going on and kind of, like, see a vision
also, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
even coming in this shit like I said like I was doing this shit but I didn't really have too much
too much of music to show like too much like too much like I had no visuals no nothing
that really so it's like for for them to reach out you know what I'm saying and even give a nigga
an opportunity and so at an early time like that you know what I'm saying I appreciate that shit for sure
definitely wasn't everything with boston tried to sign you or you even thought about signing
straight on the new boss?
No, not really.
It's just like shit, basically.
It just was all up.
It's just like shit, basically, all this shit is just going on.
It's just some shit.
Like, baby, we're just pushing.
Like, when it came to me coming up, shit,
bro, the hell of me just come up.
And shit, this shit is just going on.
You understand?
I feel like you guys have, like, very different styles,
so you probably don't necessarily feel like you're in competition?
Hell, no.
It's like, this shit, like I said, it's all up.
We never look at it like that.
You know what I'm saying?
Plus, like, he got a different style.
I got a different style.
We're just two different lanes and shit.
We both hugging the road in new lanes, you feel it?
Putting on for each other too, though.
Yeah, we both doing our thing.
Did you start moving around Florida and traveling and shit
once your music started having motion,
or was that something that was normal for you prior to that as well?
Now, I'll move around Florida a little bit, you know what I'm saying?
Just going to shows with Boston and shit.
But then, like, when my mother's...
music, started pumping.
Like, now I'm moving around, constantly.
Like, now I'm doing shows here,
where I'm floored on hill, I'm now.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, no, my shit can't play.
Like, now it's like, now I was getting
a wheel for, like, then I had to pull up
the shows and be, like, these people here, like,
you know what I'm saying?
For me, no, like, I...
What you for just you?
Like, I got, like, it's like,
it's like, it's like, I got the experience.
I had started getting the experience, you know what I'm saying?
That shit was feeling good.
It's like, I was already seeing it.
you know what I'm saying getting the experiences off of Boston
and let me even come out of shows and shit
you know what I'm saying?
And then the people with me then like
just seeing like even being at shows
he let me open up shit come out
the crowd going crazy shit going up
right because even you talking about being in Broward
it's like a lot of people might not realize
that Florida's like its own country
and it's like a 12 hour drive
or some shit it's like far as
from Tallahassee to South Florida
yeah it's like it's really like
what probably like six hours
Oh, yeah, okay.
But from the very, very top of Florida to the bottom, it's like, it's a crazy long drive.
People don't realize.
On the map, it looks like a normal side of state, but it's fucking long as hell.
That shit, that's a long-ass drive.
Yeah.
So what was your first initial reaction when, you know, when 1090 J made the video he did about Boston Richie and then all the snitching allegations?
How'd your hood take it at first?
What was your initial reaction?
Shia, I mean, it's internet shit crazy, man.
Oh, that's it.
Yeah.
But it seemed like the hood's stuff.
behind bossin and shit yeah because of shit man that should be bullshit and he's a good dude and it's like
if he has so many eyeballs him on him at this point that if he had really done some
f*** up shit i'm sure we would all know about it you know not for sure but like i say man that's the
internet you can't you can't run with that shit that internet you know what I'm saying
I put a narrative on some shit yeah but then 1090 jac ended up making video about you and how
you got arrested with a switch yeah I'm not seeing that shit what would you what you think
about that.
You're talking too
a lot?
You got rest of which
Switch in Florida or something?
I don't even see it.
Because I had just started listening to
his music around the time
that he made that video
and I'm thinking like, oh, this shit's dope,
but it's like some cool chill shit
and then I see that 1090
jig video pop up and I'm like, oh, okay.
I guess it's still gets
grimy out there, you know?
But so are you still
dealing with that legal situation?
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
And that was like a year ago or something?
Do you think you might have to go
sit down at some point or is it going to be
some light shit?
Lower it up.
Yeah.
You know, you know what I'm saying?
Keep it pushing.
What did, uh, what was your thoughts when you seen Drake postage you and shit?
Man, that shit, f*** me up.
I ain't a lot.
When I seen that shit, I was like, well, hell, man, this shit was like, like, I really,
I really was on some shit like, yeah, man, it would be true.
How do you think you got on this radar and was there, like, a conversation after the fact?
I don't even know.
I ain't a lot.
I don't even know, but one thing, like, I'd be knowing, like, me as a rapper, I see my life,
I'd be lurking.
I'd be on a lot of people page, but I don't even know it, you feel it?
So it's like, and then I hadn't tied them in the shit, so he probably just ran across that bit.
But when I seen him post that, I'd be like, and then how he posted me, I'm like, damn, like,
he ain't just, like, he just, like, post a picture off my page, and I'm like, I post my music.
like post the pictures of me like he's stamping this thing yeah like he stamped me like more more than
one man like I'm stumped like so and then I just seen the reaction from that shit like when I went to
see in the reaction of followers and all that shit like and then just the type of motion that went to
coming like the type of money that went to coming I'm like damn what is shit like a yeah like what
yeah like what just happened like you think about sending him an open verse or anything I mean yeah
You know, it's like, it's like, you know,
like, well, you got to make that one,
you got to, you got to put on that one, for sure.
So it wasn't no type of, like,
when you seen a post you,
you ain't sent a DM to, like, reach out?
Yeah, yeah, I reached out of the gate.
You tap back in with you yet?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I send me some clothes and shit.
Oh, that's love.
Yeah, for sure.
I hadn't reached out of that gate.
Like, boy, this shit can't be real.
Yeah, that was hard.
That was a hard close sign right there.
I could do music, though,
because you see, I don't know,
Rick Ross and him,
You feel like Florida might have to stay away from Toronto right now.
Like the OVO goons and Canada punch Ross in the face when you see shit like that.
I don't think Florida is that United.
I ain't a lot like.
I don't got.
He's just really on some shit.
Like, bro, I don't know.
I didn't do it all over.
That's that.
That's that.
That's something so far gone shit.
That's way out of my brain.
I don't even got to do that.
You got to just make sure that nobody gets a clip of you nodding your head to not like us in the club.
Because that's what they be doing to everybody now.
If they get you nod on your head to it, it's like, boom, blog post.
Drake ain't going on foot with the nigga no more?
Yeah, yeah.
It's going on.
You get some shit with Drake, though.
I feel it, I feel it.
I feel it.
I got some music or y'all? He ain't got no music. He was just playing your shit on the story, too. I think of it.
David Legend in Florida for sure.
Definitely.
Have you talked about doing music with him as well?
Shout on to.
You know what I'm saying?
But, you know, it's like the music shit.
It was really just like, you know, just vibing.
Just appreciating, you know what I'm saying?
I love.
I'm really about the music shit, you know.
Definitely.
Okay, what else we got here?
I even got more questions about,
because you've been going on wrong, like, you, boss man, Dilo,
y'all just did some shit
um um
y'all like the avengers right now in florida
yeah i ain't gonna lie
for d'ilo man that boy came
that boy came in this shit strong
how'd you guys become friends
oh shit it's just really like um
I hadn't reached out deal a minute ago
before his any of his music pop though
type of shit like yeah
uh he was gonna come up
so I uh you know I reached out to him
I was really fucking way and that boy just
fuck around that boy just fucking
You know what I'm saying?
Like I say, he came in this shit strong.
Now, when we talk about, like, putting the time in and the studio and shit,
you could tell that he's definitely somebody who just really puts the time in
and spends time just, like, focusing on how every bar is going to sound a little bit special.
Like, he just puts that extra little effort into each thing he says,
and it just really takes the songs to a different level.
Yeah, yeah, he got his sound.
That boy got that sound on that.
He didn't feel in you, like, he ain't sound like, he ain't sound of lazy on that,
but he comes insane energy.
you get the same deal
every time, man.
Did you know that the Obama runs were fake
at first?
Nah.
That's one thing I learned from talking
to young LB who's the founder of runs
is that at first when people started posting
up Obama runs, that's just something that somebody made
and then they had to like start
making it because it had so much hype behind it.
They're like, I guess we've got to make an official version.
Yeah, I don't know if I ran had too much
motion with that shit.
Nah, you get a popular weed brand off the ground.
They bootlegging everything.
Yeah.
I've been to people's studios and seen just piles of fake packaging and just realize like, oh, you guys are just running a whole empire out here selling fake wood.
The cornerstone, they be having packaging and shit.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
That's the, if you get a popular weed brand, it's like you're going to lose control of that brand name at a certain point.
It's got to be tough.
Yeah.
Man, like, you just got to have a unique shit going on to want to.
It's whatever.
Can't get their hands on that shit.
You know what I'm saying?
Right.
So how much weed do you think you smoke?
Because I know as you and your boys both are all smoking heavily.
That's a very common theme in the music.
Is that a big part of your day-to-day life?
Oh, shit.
But I want to say, like, I'd be blowing down crazy because, like, I'd be getting too hot sometimes.
Yeah.
I'd be trying to slow down on smoking.
Same here, man.
I don't think about how much, how many blunts I used to smoke back in the day,
and I'm just like, I can't do that shit anymore.
It just tires me out.
In terms of having conversations on camera, especially,
it's just hard to stay focused when you high as fuck.
Oh, God.
But I feel like music-wise, you can be high as fucking
still make pretty good music,
but I also don't think that's probably ideal for everybody.
Nah, it helped, but it's like sometimes,
but you can't be getting over,
you can't be getting overthold and thinking,
you know what I'm saying?
I used to do that shit,
and the music I would make.
I should use just time ass.
You know what I mean?
But your flow is so laid back
that I feel like it could kind of be an asset,
but maybe it's possible to overdo it as well.
Yeah, I'm saying, overdoing.
He said this your first time you're young people in Cali, though, right?
Oh, really?
Yeah, so what's the vibe?
It's been out here from?
Well, you just got it.
You just got ahead of day.
I ain't really caught the wolf.
I don't, you know what I'm saying?
I rode through, but I ain't really catching the wolf.
I see what going on
So now you're really going to be able to tap in
You got any wrecking the huge trying to see where he should do
For first time being in Cali
For getting weed or just for seeing shit?
Hmm
That's a good question
I mean the obvious shit is like
Santa Monica Pier Hollywood Boulevard
That's all the same and shit
Should go to Melrose, walk around on Melrose and shit
Definitely those are all like
Kind of touristy spots
Like if you really want to see the trenches
Probably should get a good tour guide going
Yeah, yeah.
I don't want to get involved in that.
I don't know who you should tap in with, but...
Nah, for sure.
You know, I'm all right, you know.
Yeah, so, like, if someone, like, we go to Tallahassee,
where should we go?
What's out there for us to do?
Shit, there ain't really too much to do.
You hit you a little bar or some shit, that's about it.
You know what I'm saying?
You got, um...
You ain't got no strip clubs and stuff out there?
Yeah, nah, you know, we're the capital,
and then, you know, they got out of college and shit.
Oh, yeah, it's a lot of that shit, yeah.
So, for the most part, where y'all are going?
when y'all want to duck off and have fun and shit where's the nearest town where y'all go turn up
that shit hang a lot we go like to where they end of like the bitch that go to miami yeah yeah
what's it like for you out in the miami that shit live in myama the down south pierre braw or
in myama but it's a different planet when you get down to miami in terms of the clubs and the
crazy glitzy nightlife stupid rich shit going on like that that compared to tell azis you just got to feel like
a million miles away.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I ain't a lot of that shit
feel different, but it's like,
now I'm used to it.
I'm like,
I don't,
I don't kind of been down there,
like,
I don't been dying enough
for a little minute,
so shit,
a nigga,
you know,
I don't really feel different or more,
but some of that shit
be feeling crazy still
sometimes,
like,
some of them clubs I go to,
you know,
I ain't used to going
to, like,
the major,
major clubs like that,
like to live and all that shit,
you know what I'm saying?
So,
a nigga,
a nigga going to live,
a nigga be like, like,
like, you look around like other fucking.
But not like,
I don't get used to it.
I'm starting,
I'm going to move around like that.
Like I said,
my first time.
First one of all the color,
right?
So, like, yeah,
I ain't never really been around,
you know what I was,
I'd be feeling kind of out of pocket.
Mm.
I mean,
when you're in the club and you look over
and you see like a bunch of white dudes
in their section
and they got their shirts unbuttoned
and they just waving bottles around
and shit like that,
it's got to be a little intimidating.
Like,
This is a totally different planet.
Yeah, but I'd be understanding that shit, though.
Like, you just got to know how this shit be, shit.
Got those clubs, doing different bracket clubs, you feel.
You got, like, like, they walk in those clubs, bitch, you went there with me.
You ain't in the whole, like, hole in the wall, shit.
Where this shit, the trenches, bitch, we thought that.
So you're going to see some different shit in that, you know what I'm saying?
Mm-hmm.
Definitely.
Do you consider Tallahasse to be the kind of place that's crazy enough that you're trying to
kind of relocate as quickly as possible or like is it not such a consideration since your
music is not like super aggressive and and whatnot?
Nah, I got that shit.
I left around that bit.
Okay, you already moved.
Yeah.
The city, that's shit crazy.
Like, it's small.
Like, it's, it ain't really too, like, you know, too much of a city that would be spoken on.
Like, but, man, that's shit crazy.
And it's just always smarter and safer for, like, especially if you make a name,
your hometown, you're probably going to have more people
hating in that area. Yeah, yeah, you're going
always
airs coming out your city for sure
if you're doing it, you know what I'm saying? That's just how
that shit be.
It's like, it's best for you to just move because
you know, it's on both
and shit. Shit going to come
to you in the streets and the police
going to f*** you just for you being who you is
and move around still in the, like
still in the area, they're still a bother,
you know what I'm saying, just for you being who you is.
And me being the, the, the, the,
nigga I am for runaway like my running is or the police like going to jail back and forth
like just being who I am like shit they're gonna f*** for me that's how we got there
yeah I just write the lead that shit I have a question what's coffee zone coffee zone is that I ain't
a lot of gas at a restaurant oh it's a restaurant okay yeah because they have a song with him and a bunch
of the other Florida Avengers it's like what 4 a.m at coffee zone and that just like really
stood out to me like most people aren't drinking coffee at 4 a.m.
Yeah, it's a restaurant that I bitch gas, man.
I'd be open to 4 a.m.
And you guys just happened to film the video there, or was it just a theme?
Type shit, we just end up pulling up over that band.
Shot a video.
You drink coffee?
Yeah, I know.
No?
No caffeine in general?
I drink soda.
Okay.
But no, like, Red Bulls or coffee?
Oh, yeah, I drank red Bull.
Okay.
Well, you all, like, wake up?
up and have to get a red bow.
Yeah, no.
Oh, okay.
It's like a random fact or a hobby that people probably want to know that Wizz partakes in.
They were like, man, Wizz don't do this.
Shit, I drink looking every day.
What's you drinking?
Don Julio.
I ain't a lot of Don Julio done.
I need to sponsor me.
I drink that shit every day.
Like, I want some thawl shit.
Like, to the point of which I wake up in the morning.
I face a cup of liquor.
bitch I go out of eat
I gotta get liquor
bitch breakfast
I gotta get a like
Damn how long you've been like that
Do you might have an issue with it?
Nah
I just be really looking at like shit
Man I'm enjoying life
Bitch ain't a lot
But if you have to wake up
And drink it with breakfast
That's probably
Not the best sign right
You just gotta put you something
You gotta put you a chase
And I'm
Orange juice or something
But you gotta go pot that man
Why you just start drinking
So often though
You said like eight months
ago you started really just
going with it every day.
I'm a substitute.
You're a lean guy for a while.
Yeah, shit.
But you felt back like right around the time
your music really started moving, huh?
That's how to shit.
Just lean is not a great thing
for your future.
It's just tough.
It's hard to be successful
when you drink a lane every day.
I'm gonna be real.
I should do it to you.
Yeah.
What about any other drugs of choice?
Like you'll fuck with,
like you'll f*** zans,
purks or anything?
I ain't, you know what I'm saying?
That's the whole.
the perks of shit.
How long you've been doing that?
Yeah.
So you f*** the Julio purrs more.
Which one you feel like you got to?
The Julio.
Where?
Bobbing a perk and then drinking liquor seems like a good idea
until you drink a little too much liquor
and then you can start to feel like a bad idea pretty quickly.
Nah.
No.
You be vibing off of it?
Yeah.
Is that the formula for like making music and shit?
Like if you in the studio, that's what you're on too?
Tite shit?
Yeah, if I ain't, I don't like a little, I don't really like recording like that.
that like I record but I don't be feeling I don't be feeling comfortable on that on like
on some shit you know what I'm saying who are your favorite rappers from Detroit
shit I ain't gonna lie because I got a whole list of they guys ain't even count with you
no crazy shit but like viz face peasy lows nutty like you know what I can keep going
I really is a lot of it out of it.
Because I feel like your style is kind of influenced
by some of the shit they got going on over there
and then like certain collaborations I heard you on
and stuff. I'm like, oh, okay, he seems like he's
a big fan of the Detroit style.
Nah, for sure.
Come, like, just even before
I started a new shit, like, and then you used
to been listening to them.
So, like, listen to them, kind of, like,
motivated me on some shit just to really
speak my mind on this shit.
And we're just talking their shit,
you know what I'm saying? They having fun with it.
If you're hearing.
So that's kind of where I got that shit from.
Like, just coming on the beach, how I come on them bitch,
Santa's shit that shit.
How did you first end up making music with these?
Shit, it was really awesome shit.
Like, you know, my team kind of like had, you know,
like put it together type of shit.
But, like shit, after that,
shit, we had that, you know, we locked in.
That's a bit, bro.
Definitely.
And you guys have a song called.
M&M.
Yeah, yeah.
Are you a fan?
Yeah, what are your thoughts on Eminem?
Shit.
No, he's down.
You're his latest project?
He's your drop?
Nah, yeah, really.
All right, for sure.
It just came out, probably, like, last week I'll leave.
I just saw I was getting destroyed
in the M&M Reddit for talking bad about it.
Yeah, you got to respect, I'm no.
He ain't like, you got to respect.
I'm not.
He wanted them, for sure.
It can be tough to tell your grandfather
that his music ain't what it used to be.
Yeah, yeah.
That's what it feels like.
Yeah.
Who's somebody that inspire you, like, in the music game right now?
That you look up to that you're like, yeah, I'll take what they do and kind of like make it a part of my shit.
Or you can just look up to what they got going on or how they move.
I ain't like a lot like, really like the OGs type shit right now.
You know, like, they got a big influence on me right now.
Like the Gucci, the GZ, you know what I'm saying?
Got it.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
a nigga trying to really bring back that type of way, type of shit.
You know what I'm saying?
Definitely.
And Gizi actually reached out to you at one point, right?
Yeah, yeah, I got a song with GZ.
He don't know of the remix.
Was that a crazy experience making that?
Yeah, like, basically, you know, I ain't leaked up when he made that bit,
but when that big came back, it's like, damn, bitch, like,
I got, I got GZ on a song with me, bitch.
He don't reach out to too many, like, new younger artists.
especially if he's not signing him.
Like a lot of older artists
are not really going to work with the artists
unless they can sign them.
The last, the last photo artist before me,
I remember that I had a reverse phone
was yet probably.
And then shit, like, I felt like, you know,
I felt stout after that,
like, which I'm stouted out of here.
How you know, Colorado get locked in?
Shit, you know, really, you know,
shit, I've been fucking with the music and shit,
but, you know, it just reached out.
Shit, you know.
I just always show love to him
type shit, you know how that shit be
Was it like an in-person or y'all just like
Swap songs?
Nah, I ain't never really, I ain't got a song yet
But I just, you know
It's just mutual shit, you know
I just ran to them a few times, you know
Just politic and shit like that
Who would you put on the Florida
Mount Rushmore? If you had to choose four people
Who you feel like did it the biggest
Or just on the stamped forever
in Florida history of rapping, who would you choose?
A spot.
I'm gonna get a goddamn,
gotta get a treat out of that.
All right, for sure.
So you got one more.
You gotta give it to Ross.
Oh, yeah.
A lot of nigs might say plies, too, those.
No, no, I give it the plies.
I give it the plies.
I give it a prize.
Yeah, I like, I prize like for the trenches.
What drew you to applause?
Because a lot of, like, a lot of street cats in Florida, they f***as.
What do you?
What did you see in them that made you
Friottled?
Jeff Brack.
He was just a music.
He was making as a shit.
Like, brother really,
really giving the nigga game.
Like, listen to that shit.
Like, bro,
brother telling real stories.
Bro, telling you know how it is.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
So Plas, one of them,
he was like,
me coming up.
Like, you know,
like,
I probably named,
like the generation before me,
they coming up.
They had tricked out of that and shit.
Like, plazas was a lot of.
that it takes you like for my generation i say type of shit how much respect did you gain for trump
when he uh narrowly survived being shot in the ear the other day by a sniper
man trump a fucking lid man trump lid i here man that shit crazy like of all the people that we
know survived shootouts like that is a pretty pretty crazy story to just have a sniper
snip your fck and you're totally good like that i know so many people have been in shootouts
I never really heard something quite like that
That's crazy
I ain't like yeah it's crazy
What Trump wanted to Trump
He Trump him
Trump that man
Yeah you gotta get it to him
That was a wild one
Lazz ain't rocking with Trump
He thought that shit was fake stage
That's all type of man
Coddap was saying the same shit
Co-Dak said
Niggas riding behind Trump this time
How do you feel like
What do you feel like it's a change in Florida
You feel like more people going with Trump
versus last year
Because I don't know if they voted rare
last year, but it seemed like more people
who are down with Trump this time around
than they work.
The tide is swinging in his favor, for sure.
Black people in general, because
I one point we were like on the fence about it, but now
it seems like more black people definitely
riding with Trump or accepted it.
In 2016, Kanye's supporting
Trump was like the most controversial
thing in the world, and now all kinds of rappers
and people in the culture coming out in favor of Trump
and nobody gives the fuck. It's just like totally normal
out of now. Man, shit.
Like it's Trump world out of this bitch, man.
Trump got shit going on.
Yeah. No, he definitely.
For sure.
So, okay, what do you got a plan in terms of moves you're trying to make
or what you feel like you need to do in your career to make it to the next level now?
Oh, shit, really.
I ain't know why I just got to keep working and networking, you know what I'm saying?
Like, politics and rubber shoulders, you know what I'm saying?
It's just figuring this shit out, you know, step by step.
But at the end of the day, like I say, man, man, thing.
you gotta keep working experiment,
you know what I'm saying?
Because if you just make the right song,
there's one night you just happen to hit the right flow
on the right beat,
that could send your whole career out of control.
You know, that could be the biggest moment
in your whole career and you won't know
until you just happen to make that song.
Yeah, that way I try to stay in the Stuka.
If I'm moving around and shit,
or if I'm bullshit,
Lollagagga not in the studio,
I might miss that moment, you know what I mean?
Some of the shit, which I got to be in there.
What would be like your dream feature?
Shit, my dream feature, I ain't know.
Even if it ain't one person,
but a couple people that you know
that you want to work with when it's all of a sudden and done.
I got to get some shit with dream right way.
Yeah, for sure.
Right, my favorite.
All my favorite rappers with it, I got to just get something in there.
What's ATM?
What's it stand for, though?
Nice.
Well, I'm a big fan.
I'm looking forward to the next projects and everything.
You definitely got a crazy movement going
And I like seeing like a new face
Like what a Florida rapper can look like
Because it feels like you and DeLo
And all these dudes are kind of like
Like opening up the box
In terms of like what a young Florida rapper
Can look like
So I'm a big fan of the whole movement
Nah for shit show we bring
We bring this Florida shit
Like we're making this shit go over for
We put this shit on the mouth
Even though you know what I was on the map
But like I want some young nigga shit
We put this shit on the mouth for sure
Hell I definitely
We are for show.
Yeah.
Whiz having.
Appreciate you, man.
Thank you so much for coming through.
I can't forget the goals.
No, for sure, man.
Turn my man up on all streaming services and social media and whatnot.
Appreciate you, man.
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