No Jumper - X4 on Being from Rollin 40s Crip, Face Tattoos, Doing 4 Years in Prison & More

Episode Date: October 31, 2023

X4 shares about his family tragedy, upbringing, doing time, LA politics, Wack100, and more. ----- Get the latest news & videos http://nojumper.com CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://shop.nojumper.com/ NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world. We are in here today with somebody who I'm going to give you the nod as like my first round draft pick in terms of what's going on in L.A. and everything right now. I feel like I'm probably realistically listening to you more in the whip than a lot of established artists or really anybody doing their thing in L.A. right now. I'm really feeling the energy. My man, X-4 is in the building. Trophy. Trophying up in a big way. How you feeling?

Good. Trophying up. What's trophying up? For those who don't know. Trophy is like somebody that's like a joint, you're really doing it. You got motion. You got the trophy.

You joined it up. You trophied up. Right. And you said that to me last time I seen you were taking a picture or something. You're like, all right, I guess this is trophy status. Yeah, when I first met Desto Doug, man, he told me, welcome to the other side.

Right. Yeah, just the other side. That's crazy. I've been on the other side too long. It's easy for me to forget that, like, for you doing interviews and having all this attention on you and stuff, it must feel kind of crazy because you've been out here. on some other shit for a while, right?

Yeah, hell yeah, I feel crazy as I'm like a, I've been in and out of jail. I'm like a street because it's like cameras new. So I'm being like a shy type of shit. But I'm starting to get used to it though. Right. So you feel like you're developing into the kind of person that you need to be to be a celebrity? Because it does kind of take a different skill set than just being a normal person, right?

No, yeah, for sure, do. But I feel like I already kind of got like some of them kind of like traits anyway, though. I'm already like a, I don't like just being anywhere. I don't like just being around anybody. I don't post anything. I already like move like that. Like I'm already like, so it's just like easy. Right.

Yeah, definitely. So tell me a little bit about where you're coming from. Oh, like, am I like, am I bringing? Yeah. Well, I grew up in the 40s, because I grew up 42nd in Mello. I don't know with my granny. Now's my granny, my little brother. I just grew up in the hood.

And so your dad wasn't around at all or? No, he was in, he was in prison, he was in prison. He went to prison for shooting my mom, girl. I was like two years old. Yeah, he shot her and was she like badly wounded or was it? Oh yeah, he shot her five times. What the fuck? I'm a dead homies.

I was like two years old, so cut, I've been in prison because I'm in the hood every since then. But I made cut though. I made cut, 2017. He ended up getting out. Taped in with me, I made cahs on the hood. But like growing up, he wasn't around. But so my little brother dad was around him, I stepdad. The situation where he shot her though, like, do you know now, like what it was about or what happened?

Well, because my mom didn't want to be with her. Right. And on hood and cah, cah, cah, crab, I see where I get it from now. Cuff frog. So you're kind of a hot head too? Yeah, yeah, I'll be tripping some time, Cah. Well, damn. I'll be tripping some time.

I mean, but you don't want to be going out like that, shooting a trip. And I always, like, on a dead one. I was, like, younger, car, always, like, on the dead homies had so much, like, hate and anger for Cud. Like, this shit about my mom. I'm going to kill Cud. On the dead homies. Right. But, like, got older and matured and just, like, on some, like, he hit me up out of nowhere, like, a random call.

Like, I'm going to meet you with you. I'm like, all right, let me just, like, here it cuds out. Because you kind of kind of wonder like what that's going to do to your mind because, you know, your whole like male role model is based on your father more often than not. And a lot of times you see young dudes who, you know, they don't grow up with their dad around and they kind of end up. A lot of dudes who get heavy into the streets, I think it's because of that because their dad's not around or whatever. Do you feel like you have any particular like, you know, damage that's been done to your brain by just having to know that that happened your whole life? Hell yeah. Damage from that.

damage from, like, my mom was, like, really in the street, too, really, like, with my granny. Right. So on the day, I'm, like, mom issues, daddy issues, just growing, hell yeah. Growing up, just in the environment we grew up in, hell yeah, that's going to put damage on you for sure, ending out of jail. Right. Been a young man, been putting that type of environment. Hell yeah, that's, you're going to damage on you.

But so, what was it like mean face-to-face with your dad? Because you have that, like, resentment or anger in your mind while you're talking to him because he did that to your OG? Yeah, at first. But, like, you know, his approach and the way he, like, he, like, said, sir, Word is her shit. Like, it was like, you know, I understand it. It was cool.

We left the conversation with, like, you know, some type of understanding. Did it seem like... He knows what was up with me, though. He seemed like a changed person? Yeah, for sure. That's what prison going to do to you, though, especially how many years he did. He went to jail like 2002, 2003. Got out like 2017.

Right. Hell yeah. That's the hell yeah. Was that part of you in your mind that was like, I'm going to fuck this dude up if he says the wrong thing to me? Oh, yeah, for sure. Hell yeah. It would broke her jaw off the dribble.

What the... Now, his approach and everything was like, he was cool, though. His approach. Yeah, I feel like he was like really genuinely sorry about it. Right. Yeah, I mean, because I'm going to go out on a limb and say he's probably fucked up when that happened. It happened because certain got different type of angers because I know when I'm mad, because I do anything, because any time around anybody and then regret it later, because

on a dead homie. So I know I am. So if that's the person that had me, I can only imagine on a dead hummus. I didn't did search in moments where regretted later like. And that's such a huge part of becoming successful is that you have to be able to be in a situation that makes you angry as fuck or like, you know, furious with your girlfriend or whatever and not take it to the next level or whatever that's the kind of killed in the dead homies me and my my baby mama be who go at it you get into it yeah yeah

I didn't got cracking on my baby mama mm-hmm dead homies I didn't got cracking on her what's that mean uh never mind you guys get into very intense arguments yeah yeah yeah but you always are able to kind of pull it back and not take it to the next level no yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah all right I respect that. Yeah. Okay, so you're growing up there and how would you describe your childhood? Like, so your mom was like really not there that much? Like, how much is my time?

Yeah, not really, not really there much, man. She was like really like in the street because I don't know. I knew what she was like, you know, but she was like really too much. She was in the street. Right. I don't know. So I was like with my granny. Yeah.

And so what was that like, though, your grandma, does she keep a pretty strict leash on you or was she kind of? Yeah, my granny was like evil. My granny was evil. but then she had like a side where she was like you know she was like granny too that loving granny but she had a like my granny was like fucked up too I used to get fucked up a lot too

What's the evil part like She just like evil cause I used to f*** up a lot Should beat up about you No not beat that I mean you know what's it That was it that was tough love though Like looking at it back down Looking at it looking at it over now that it older

I needed that though Right I used to get f** up with my brothers My granny aunties everybody But I needed that type of shit though looking back at it Because the ones that didn't get f*** up All the ones that they babyed and tried to show favoritism to,

j-catted out, weirdos now. Really? So I'm good, young gang, so hell yeah. I needed that type of shit. It made me to the person on the day.

Parenting works for you. Yeah, hell yeah. Interesting. Were you getting in trouble a load since you were young? Hell yeah, man. Because I was doing a lot of shit, though. I used to be doing stupid people.

I saw I f*** up, go to school, I was just like a fuck up. Right. I was like, I was a fuck up. So, hell yeah. Right. And, okay, so, but what kind of kid were you?

Like, what were you getting into it? A bad-ass kid, I was doing anything. I go to school and get in trouble. I'm fucking around the block. I'm making a little hot. I'm stripping. I'm robin.

I'm busting the neighbor's window. I'm doing all the type of shit. Back little kid. What do you think are influence about? You think it was the music? Or was your... My environment, cause, and then just my brothers. I got two big brothers from the baby explosive X3

and then tiny foots on gang. How much older they than you? Baby Explosive, 28, tiny foot, 33. And how old are you? 23. Okay. And so were they, like, guiding you into the streets? Were they kind of trying to keep you innocent?

Hell, no, they was trying to keep me away from that. But that just made me want to do it more on game. They tried to keep me away from that. Every time I used to be on a block. I'll call your brother, get the fuck about it here. Serre little shit on my brother's front. I'm on a block. I was on a block.

He had come on me up. That shit is still. I steal that. I still do nothing. I still got put on. Right. And so, okay. They tried, though.

They tried. They tried like a moire. And you knew about all the gangs and everything when you were young. That was just kind of obvious to you? Yeah, yeah. I've been to a lot of the shit. I was young. I got pictures from like three, four years old throwing up the hood. Really?

Yeah, I've been with this where it's gonna be. And when you're three or four years old, though, like, they're just kind of- Clearly I'm being coached, but on the dead homies, I got it, though, it's there. Clearly somebody told me to do it, but on gang, I got pictures of a young nigga thrown up the hood. Holy shit on the dead homies. Whether the three-year-olds like dissing the ops or are they just representing where they're from? Yeah, I don't know if I had pictures of just an ops or nothing, girl.

I've seen some pictures of, like, young Chicago. I was like dropping their enemies and, like, in the photos, like, throwing up the gang signs dissing their enemies and it's kind of wild like to have a little kid doing that yeah yeah that's how that go though yeah yeah just deeply rooted in you in the projects they start projects great money honest they got kids over there seven eight years old right yeah yeah that's all they that's all they know at a certain point oh yeah damn okay so when did you first get arrested or what was that like uh when i was like 13 years old i called like a robbery case girl with all the homies we was on bunk car back me's trains bus them days we was on bunk call and

the bus because gang homies on hood rob some people on the bus there homies in the run there didn't get away so that was just a normal day for you guys that you just go hop on the bus and just sort of look for people you know it wasn't even like that type of he had a mission because we was already we was already had a destination to go we was going to my auntie house because we was going to go to my auntie house on the hood and we just on the bus but we just like all together on groups we just like on bunk because we're all together on bunk and it just y'all just on a bus people look in their homies just on bunk looking at and they say something now you on them that type of situation it was just like some small words that elevated to end up getting robbed to end up getting sticky.

Really? So everybody in the whole crew got arrested? Nah, most of us did. Like two, three of us got away. Like three homies got away because I don't da homies. Like three of us got away, but everybody really got caught. So you weren't so lucky though? Yeah, I wasn't so lucky. I was like 13 years old too. How long did you're locked up for? I did like four months. Off your first arrest. First, first rest. They had four months, got out on probation. And then it was just bad every since. I never got on probation. Never got off that paperwork. See, that's kind of wild to picture.

Like, getting arrested for your first time and then they make you go sit down for that long? Yeah, first time in four months. That's wild. I adjusted quick, though, because I was already like a, like you said, I was already like a bad little kid in the hood, because they're just like natural when they put you around other bad little kids. Right.

Gangs, that's what we, you know. Do you start getting introduced to people that aren't from your neighborhood? Do you think that sped up the process of you getting in trouble right there? Spread up the process and you get in trouble? Yeah, because now all of a sudden you're just meeting a shitload more people. that you have all kinds of Yeah, yeah, yeah. Different gangs, different licks that they know about.

Yeah, now you hang with other people, yeah, more other little shit get opened up to you, yeah, hell, yeah. Right, okay, but did you hate it? Like, because I feel like you seem like the kind of person that maybe would be able to make the best of it when it comes to the whole jail experience. Did I hate jail? Yeah.

Hell yeah, I hate it, but I'm not going to be, I'm not more than me that's going to be in jail like a stress case, because I hate jailing around them type of niggas. I want to go home all this. I could be doing that. I had moments, though, where I'm in there like, fuck, I want to go home, this shit bump. But then for the, but you can't do that shit.

You would just, you'll stress yourself out. You'll be in your stressed out. Right. You got to stay strong-minded. I don't gain. And if you got a good support system at home, you can call a bitch or family, whoever, that's going to keep you going.

I always had like a good support system. And I was, okay, I got a strong mind because I don't let that shit break me. I get in there and I just do my thing. Who's your support system? Your brothers? Yeah, family, different little bitches, whatever little bitch. I'm going to fucking with that around the time. Yeah, hell you.

Right. So we established this last time I talked to you that you've always had bitches. Yeah, for sure. This has never been a problem. You always have bitches. Right. Yeah. But even at 13, you had girls that were really holding you down or you're locked up.

Hell yeah. Hell yeah. I had bitches. I went to, did a camp program, 16, 17 years old. I had bitches enemy hygiene, all type of shit. Really? Hell, yeah. What do you think it is?

You just know how to talk to them? Yeah, I just always been, like, since I've been like a young nigga, always hung around older niggas, always, like, more mature than my pack. I always been, like, always been, like, mature, because, so, again, there'll be no problem, because I got to get no, no bitch to hold me down or no older bitch to do what I want. But are you like the girlfriend type, or are you the type to just be having girls letting you borrow their car and you're, like, getting money out of them?

It depends. If a bitch got, like, certain type of quire... If a bitch, like a certain type of bitch, she's checking, like, boxes that I need her to check, then, you know, again, she might have... I might make her my bitch. Right. But for the most part, though, I'm not... When I'm fucking with a bitch, my first thing is not this my bitch.

She's just like, we're just cooling right now. We're having a good time. We're doing what we're doing. But you end up having to have that conversation pretty quickly of like, I am not your boyfriend. You can't tell me what to do. Oh, they just go on. They just already know, because they know. They know.

When the nigga trophied up, they know, like, cuh, you just nigger, I'm just right. I'm just right. When bitches know they with a trophy, car. They know what's up, because when they come in your life, it's just basically like the best bitch win. So the bitches be just trying to make them work. All the bitches you do, they mean, they be trying to make them work, car. Wow.

But if you meet the right one. They be trying to leave an impact. If you meet the right one, you could imagine yourself spending a couple years like in a relationship where you're not really thinking about other chicks and shit like that? Not thinking about other chicks? Kind of hard to imagine. Yeah, that's going to be hard because she, that's going to be hard because I'm going to be hard because it's going to be hard on her when they get around all the type of bitch.

Like I said, I've been in and out of jail because I just did four years because so I'm trying to hit everything I could. Right. I just did the gang of time in jail. I'm trying to. When you get out of jail, our girls understanding about that. even if they were holding you down, that you get out of jail

and you're going to need to fuck some random chicks to get it out of your system? Some bitches are bird brains and just don't know nothing, because some bitches don't know nothing. Right. Certain bitches don't know nothing. And they just be like, you know,

and when a bitch got a certain type of nigga, they'd be on them all to their self on gang. So, yeah. I've had that many times in my life where you got a girl who's just a hoe and you think, like, she's just down to fuck you whenever you can call her anytime. She's going to do shit for you, etc.

But then it always just turns into a situation where she feels offended that she's not your girlfriend that she doesn't get an extra level of attention from you. Yeah, yeah, but yeah. Hell yeah. I ain't really been wearing by bitches, though, lately, because I've been trying to worry about getting rich,

because bitches can be a distraction. You get rich, and that shit is just going to come. Yeah, it's going to come. You get rich, and then you're going to get to a whole new level of chick that you aren't going to get as a regular dude. Yeah, some shit that the nigga ain't probably even used to. Right.

Like, hold on, you got to teach me how to be in this relationship, because I'm used to toxic shit, bitch. I'm used to have to slap in the bitch and cold her the bitch, all that type of shit. You've got to teach me this. If you, if your fame, gets to the level of you having a million followers and getting a million views on every video

and shit like that, it's just gonna open that shit up so much that you're gonna have random Hispanic women who wanna spend time with you, you're gonna have white girls in Calabas and asking you to spend the night. Yeah, but nah, yeah, oh yeah, I know, hell yeah. That'd be straight too, I know I'd be in a relationship, though, I know how to treat a bitch, cah.

I don't have real relationships, though. I don't have real relationships, but my baby mama, car, she's made it hard for these bitches. Really? Yeah, yeah. In what way? She'd be beating them up and shit? just so fucking toxic and so weird

and it's just been so much shit, car. I'm just like, cool on a bitch right now. Really? Yeah, yeah. So she kind of showed you the dark side of how wild the relationship could get? Yeah, she brought out, yeah, she brought out the evil side of me.

And how distracting from what you're trying to do with your life? Exactly. Mm. Could you imagine if you, yourself in a relationship, like, with a Kardashian and just like holding her down and not cheating and shit?

Oh, no. I'm cool on them type bitches, because, you know. Really? You know, no. That would just be too much work. That's like, yeah, that's too industry. I'm still a hook.

hood nigga, though, because I'm still the hood nigga. I want a bitch that's like, that's like, at least you got to, like, you got to know something, bitch, you just too, like, she ain't never probably even, she don't know nothing. All she knows the suburbs. She don't know nothing. She's going, I'm a hood nigga, but you got to pull up, reversing. You got to hold the blick. It's a certain thing you got to do, girl. Kardashians aren't doing that. They're not doing that. They're not doing that. And from my experience, like moving out here, because I'm from the fucking East Coast in the middle of nowhere, it's like, when you move out here and there's all these models and

actresses and shit like that, the high. as girls you ever seen in your life, the worst people you ever met in your life, and the least in common with you that you're ever going to meet in your life. So it's like this weird thing where you want to kick it with them because you want to fuck, but then you just have nothing in common with them. And they just, their mind state is so different than what you come from. If you come from humble beginnings, that it's just hard to relate to some of these baddies that you meet out here. Yeah.

Definitely. Okay, so you did that four months. And then at what point you get out and you just like keep going back and forth? In and now, car. And then, like, I was the type of nigga. I used to never check in my PO, too. So I used to be on the run a lot, too, for not checking in my PO, shit like that, car, gun cases, all type of shit.

I stayed in that motherfucker. I stayed in that motherfucker. Really? Yeah, yeah, I stayed in that motherfucker. Damn. So what was that, though, that you just couldn't force yourself to check in with your PO, even though you know that that's what's going to keep you out on the street? Yeah, man.

I used to just be on bunk, car, just a little dummy. On the dead, homie, just a dummy. I ain't doing nothing. I'm on the block right now. I'm in the hood. I could be going to check on my peer, but I'm in the hood. Just stupid shit. Yeah, and that's the weird thing.

Like, fuck her. I'm right here. I'm doing what I'm doing. Being a rapper, it's like you have to start looking out for your own best interest. You know, you got to stay out of trouble so you can keep making money so you can live this life and do shows and be able to do other shit. Now I'm so programmed up and so gamed up on the day homies. I did four years in prison.

They get really matured up. It really got smart and really like I'm pretty programming myself to be a real artist. I don't know. He did everything else now. So, I'm going to be a real artist now. Right. So were you thinking about, well, okay, so you didn't finish high school, I'm guessing? No, hell no, man.

What age did you get to? What grade? Eighth grade. Eighth grade? You were done? Yeah, eighth grade I was done, bro. I was in jail after that. Wow.

Oh, yeah. And is that the four-year bid that we're talking about? No. I went to, shit, I was in and out of the halls too in middle school, though. But now I did the four years when I turned 18. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And what was that case for?

Um, robbery. Okay. I got ad charge for that motherfucker. I was in jail for some whole other shit. On the dead homies, little bitch, I was fucking with around the time. We went to jail together. What did you and her get locked up for? Some bullshit robbery.

I'm gang, bullshit robbery. Yeah, we go to jail on the dead homies. Both got the same release date, all the shit. She'd get out on that release date. The day before I ended up getting that charged. They're like, oh, this was in the IE County, though. So, like, oh, you get that charged with you, ooh, we're going to ship you all the L. County.

They're homies. So, on Crip, she get out. The next day, man, I go to L.A. County. I'm fighting the case. Another case. Yeah, another case. Form robbery that I bin, did, bin, got a bin, bin, bin, bin, bin, on Crip. Pop that motherfucker.

I popped up on me. They're like, yeah, it is you. So if they had charged you for both of those together, then you would have probably ended up running that time together, concurrently, but because they just chose to charge you after. They know what the fuck they was doing, they were doing. And that's how I ended up getting two strikes,

because the first robbery, And when I went with her, that was like some little blood shit. But like a robbery case, you got to come with a strike. So you got to take a strike. Bam, they waited to, bam, he's done with that one, give him a strike. Then bam, hit this one on him. Now another strike. That's how I got two strikes.

Wow. Gang, they got ways, because. So it really felt like they're out to get you. Yeah, bro, they already know what's up with me. Bro, they don't want a nigga like me on the street. They know what's up in the hood by crash. It was the first time they ever let me go in my whole career ever. Really?

On the dead homies crash, I ain't never had a episode where I've been on parole, probation, where you can't be around. around your homie, shit like that. And so what's crash for them? Oh, that's a gang unit. Right. Like the police, like gang unit. And they let you go.

They let me go, bro. And was that super shocking to you? Yeah, yeah, bro. It was treating me like a artist, bro. They were treating me like, this shit was like, this shit different. Really? Because you kind of think they would be more excited to lock you up. Yeah, hell yeah, bro.

I asked them that too. I'm like, bro, do y'all sit back there in the office, bro, on a dead homies and really like, all right cuff and a bee on. Right. Like, hell, no, we on. Like, yeah, whatever. I hurry up and search, bro, I gotta do something. A lot of times, though, I'm watching interviews and stuff,

and I'm thinking, if the cops aren't watching this, they're not really doing their job, because there's a lot of information. No, they be watching me, bro. Right. The crowds be excited when they see me, they be fending out. But they search you and shit, were they looking for a reason to get you? Usually because they be searching my shit for, like, on a dead homie. But before this rap shit, they'd be searching my shit for like an hour, two hours.

They already know I got it on me. Like, no, it's in there because I got it. They call it got it, is in there. Now, it's like, all right, they see what I'm doing. They see what I'm doing this rap shit. on hood treat me like an artist search my shift for like 10 minutes are some of these cops 15 minutes got about people that you've known for a while because they've like talked yeah one of them the nigger that blurt me i put up on me he took me to jail before um gang you took me to jail before

hell yeah found the blick in the car a couple couple years back took me to jail for it on gang he just took me to jail again too april seven on the hood day i did a little violation right then he reminded me like uh remember me i took you to jail a long time ago found the blake in the car i'm like on the dead homie that was you right then he just pulled up on me again let me go so i'm like All right, I'll hook, cool. Damn. So you feel like they might actually have your back a little bit? I have my back, bro, and the dead homies.

I don't want them to make my back. But they might want to see me over here just on the dead homies, bro. They might want to see you win, right? I don't know. Hell no, bro. That's the cops, right? I don't see no nigga win. Right.

They want to see a nigga in jail. Is there anybody from 40s you were looking at as successful as you were growing up, or is it kind of, because a lot of times they'll be like a big-ass gang from LA, but there won't really be like a star that comes out of that area for years and years and years. Well, shit, we got, yeah, yeah, we got shit D Jack. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I used to be always, like, yeah, looking up to D Jack and all that type of shit when I was younger, playing Madden, all that type of shit. All that type of shit. Watching NFL games, homies. Homes used to be like, you know, cut from the hood. I'm like, never. And he signed you, right? Nah, cut from the hood. What's the relationship there? I've heard that a lot. That's just my brother. That's just my big bro. He's from the hood. So he's just started fucking with you early on? Yeah, he just started making noise and cuts to, like, he'll hear my name. So he tapped in. And do you don't have any kind of business relationship, or how's that go?

No, I ain't got no business with code. I just like my boy on game. Okay. Interesting. I'd be going to the car studio. He's like, he just fuck with me. We locked in. Okay.

That's what's that. So. I know, ain't no, ain't signed or nothing, nothing. Right. Okay. How'd you start with the music in the first place, though? Like, was that a thing before you started really getting locked up or when did you start recording?

When I went to the studio with Chinch, like 20, 15, 16, went to the studio with I was just at my boy, because, JV. house on 43rd I don't know he used to be over there hanging out and then my boy I'm from West Boulevard because he used to be over there too and because dad has some equipment that he didn't want them more like some studio equipment so he like I always got the equipment like come pick it up type of shit he went over there and picked it up and shit they just had that shit sitting right there at J.B. House for the longest before J.B. like fuck it. Let me set this shit up. They set it up.

Chink start rapping doing what he started doing. On game. I used to be watching them. I'm like nah y'all rap I ain't doing that shit. Really? Chink rapping. I'm out. I'm out. I'm in the hood. I'm doing this. I'm game banging. They were too gang-related to do it. Yeah, I was too hard to rap, car. Right. Yeah, so, uh, her, Chinch was doing this shit,

made him a sound cloud, getting his numbers, the shit was booming, because that shit was hard. I'm listening, like, cut, this shit hard, girl. There's a lot of your early videos with him. I thought his name was Chunk, because he uses the X instead of the... Instead of the... Yeah, instead of I.

Yeah, it was named Chink. You know, gang. So he told me, like, you're like a natural popper anyway. You're just, like, good. I just, like, talking shit anyway. Cause, you'll be hard, bro. I can just see you, I can hear it.

So Chink was like really like the one that like push like everything with his rap shit. Right. What's the music that you remember listening to like throughout high school and shit before you really got into rapping? A lot of Draco. Fuck, oh, that's the only one that comes to my mom right now. I'm sure there's all the type of other shit of shit. That's the only one that come to my mom. I just and so a lot of Draco on game.

But then you were telling me the other day that Riloh Rodriguez is. Oh yeah, Riloh, that's my favorite rapper right now. These days that's kind of what you look to? Yeah, before though, Raleigh. wasn't out back then though that around that type of but yeah I got Arrallo in prison right yeah yeah definitely what is it about him though it was like the he just speaking that real shit yeah that pain yeah that pain shit cuz speaking that real shit and way Cah say it and just like Cud just hoard on the dead homies Cud right what did you

love about him and I'm kind of like on a day I'm with me and like Cuck like kind of like I ain't gonna say similar but like kind of like similar Cud because Cud like you see come from the camera he like really like on camera type nigga he really like they be I've see certain sure they call like uh uh awkward on camera. They'd be saying the same shit about me. Like, yeah, awkward on camera. Cubby looking awkward and cut off videos.

But I'm really on the day. I get into stew and I'll cook up that shit on the day on me. I'm going to shoot a good video. I'm a, the music part easy. It's just the camera shit and all that type of shit. So I see that in Cud, too. So I'm like, I understand. Cuddyn, that pain.

Just the shit can be talking about. Right. I feel like some people, they like that. They're drawn to that. When they can tell that you're kind of fucked up. Like, I think about somebody like young boy, I think about somebody like Draco.

If they could see it in your face that you've been through a lot in your life, people are really drawn to that. And I do think that you kind of give off that vibe where people just look at you and they just feel like, oh shit, this guy's just done a lot of living for a young dude. I'm a dead homies.

You feel like an old soul? Yeah, for sure. I be standing all the time. I feel like I was like on the dead homies. I feel like I was on this herbie for a car, like an old rich nigga. I feel like I was an old rich guy. Right.

Yeah, I'll be flounder. I got an old soul. I gravitate more towards older niggas. Like, I'd just be like on some, I'd be on some different shit, bro. Their homies, I'd be on like on some other shit. Right. Yeah, yeah, I got an old soul.

I like, oh, these, my favorite movie, The Temptations, Dave Ruffin. Really? Yeah, homies. I watched that movie like 20 times. I don't know if I ever seen the movie. My parents made me to listen to him all the time as a kid. Yeah, yeah, girl.

Okay. Yeah, I got a little bit of the old soul. But then, you know, I can tap into, like, no. Gen. When did you start feeling like you had a little bit of motion with the music, like when the music started to seem like it was working and the people were appreciated in it? I don't know, because everybody was just telling me.

Everybody just telling me, gang, and then you start getting treated different. That's how you know. That's how you know this shit different. You start getting treated different. Yeah. But that's how you really know when you start getting treated different. You start digriding more.

Right. You started getting bitches that would have never talked to you before. That's how you know, okay, this shit different. But there was like a diss song. Like you did the thing where you came out with a diss song, basically getting at everybody that you aren't supposed to get along with

in the way, right? Yep, exactly. And was that a big decision? Even some hoods we don't really beef like that, I didn't say fuck him on that song. Really? But I was just like a young nigga,

you know, you're a young nigga, cuss and the halls, because on the dead homies and you got a digger that you just fucking wet and it's your boy on gang gang and cubs before them,

but you just so locked in with Cud, you're like, fuck it, I'm fuck them niggas too. So I didn't have, that song was just like from camp and juvenile hall experiences, niggas that on hood

and broke the roll in or said Fuck the hood and all type of shit And so I'm just like I made that song I was like 16, 17 years old Really? Yeah, I wasn't even, I never even seen a county jail

before I've made that song. But that's kind of interesting because I feel like there's a lot of people out here and they will only dis the people that they're not supposed to get along with so it doesn't really have that much

to do with like how they personally feel about people but you were working from real life experience I said fuck all type of shit I said fuck all type of shit on the dead homies and what make it really better on a dead homies

I said fuck all type of shit and I didn't be in and out of jail so much and there ain't no smote on my name bro Nobody never took my store Nobody never slapped me Nobody never spit on me Nobody never marked me out

None of that shit On the dead homies And I'm a known face And that niggas And when you like a known nigga Knicks can't wait to smudge you up Niggas can't wait to put that out there I didn't bend in jail

Never got deeped in jail Never got broke off nothing That would have been That would have been out Exfo got a store took Exfo got slapped marked out nothing Right And turned down no fade nothing

So that's what make it better Cud rap like that And cut really like that Right I didn't been putting environments Where it's no gun Nothing you got to really That's what it is

Better fight Because you said like 30 fades You've been throwing that number out and some of the lyrics and shit Yeah, yeah, I used to write down all my fides, car, and the horse. Really? I fight a nigga on the dead humbys.

I go back in the room, I'll write it down. Far who through you from who. Anybody famous or notable? Uh, I don't want to say. I don't want to name. Is that bad taste? In the game, for me no nigga, no. But yeah, on the dead homies,

I was in camp. I was in camp with one on Crip, Cud, like rapping right now on the hood doing this shit from the other side on gang. I was in camp with Cah. Right. On gang.

I ain't got on bad to say about Cud, though. He was doing his little shit, wasn't a woofer. He was squabbling. He was programming. Cut from the other side, though, and game. That's a wild thing that these days, like, you go in there, you have a fight. Like, there's this legendary Krip Mac Jap 5 fight. Yeah.

And nobody's seen it, but everybody heard about it. We all heard so many different versions of it that we all feel like we kind of know what happened. And that's the wildest shit, because if that happened in a place where everybody had phones, that video would have been insanely viral, but instead we all just get to hear about it. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

There should go, Kyle. So. You're going to fight in there. Out of 30 fights, how many times would you say you got your ass whipped? On the dead homies, bro. I ain't never lost no fade in the halls, in the halls, bro. On the day, I ain't never lost no fade in the halls and camp. On the dead homies, I didn't start losing fades until I got to the county jail, bro.

And I'm not, I'm not no caper. I'm not no storyteller. Nick, a bit my ass, I'm going to say cut, beat me up, bro. Right. Whatever, I'm going to tell it real on the dead homies. I ain't never lost no fade because in hars and camp. And any nigga that I've been on me in the hos and camp can vouch for this on the dead homies. I was whipping shit out, bro, in there.

I was undefeated, bro, and crap. And is it kind of like weight classes, like, in the UFC? Because they're not going to put you up against a 6-5 dude, are they? Shit, it's not about putting you up, because about shit. If you run it to a big nigga, that's what it's going to be, because that's what it is. So it's not like other dudes set up these fights? Bro, I ain't. Shit, shit, huh?

Is it like other dudes, like setting up the fights for you because you just came in? And I hell no, nigga, you set it up yourself. When you walk in your own type of time? Where niggas from? Where are you from? Where are you from? Where in the hall is a little bit different because it's more childish and more woof and more fuck with the hoop and all that type of shit and the county is more like civilized

our ban we gonna get down after child him gonna set it up like this bam bam bam like this and haws is more up yon yawksk and yawksk and no cairn't stop is more of a scene making and the county is more like all right more structure type of fight but going through all that did it give you like more confidence that you were going to be able to survive in this world because that's just a shit lot of fights to go through and to come out unscathed or relatively unscathed is pretty amazing yeah yeah yeah that's that's why you're naturally because it wasn't all like i don't be like i don't know because i be saying a lot of people because they'd be like oh you was going up in the county or you was this or you was that or you got

stories about me because i just be like that shit's like regular cah but just see the type of joy and niggas from a nigger doing what he's supposed to do in the county just goes to show me that you a bitch on crip you you give me cookies and and trophies for doing what i'm supposed to do bro this is what the niggas signed up for i'm crip so you go in the county you better handle your business so by you gas me up you're doing your shit in the county you a bitch right but that's what you're supposed to do but but i mean a lot of people you're Well, because you're talking about people who have been in that environment. To me, as somebody who hasn't been in that environment, it's kind of like impressive or crazy.

But you're saying that's like the bare minimum of what you got to do if you're in there. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, cool. Fighting. Better prepare to fight, because you're going to fight. Damn. You're going to fight, because especially, like, from a hood like where I'm from, because we got a gang enemies, bro. So they're going to fight.

Right. It's a lot of, it's a couple people going there because they don't got to, they go to the corridor or go to the county. They only got to wear about one or two hoods. We got a way about all type of shit. Right. They got enemies about shit. That's what it is, God. Definitely.

Cold is a motherfucker. Is it cold as a motherfucker? Is it cold? Look at there. I got the shivers on the dead homies. I feel like it's pretty solid. I saw your lip shaking. I was wondering,

and I'm like, he's cold. I'm cold as fuck, curled. Oh, crap. Oh, shit. All right. Nigger got the shivers, bro. I mean it, because I'm in need me, man. Are you really?

I'm a dead army, bro. How did you get like that? You get to eat more steak and shit, I think. I know, bro. I'm skinny as fuck, bro. I got a jail-sized up. Is your diet not great? I don't be eating like that, bro.

I ain't going to lie because I'm a dead homies, bro. Lately you ain't been eating, bro, I've been just smoking just smoking on crap, bro. And when you're eating some toxic shit, bro, I just thought fucking my baby mama, that shit was toxic, bro. We need some toxic shit and just all the type of shit, and I got a million of my mind. It's all the type of shit, because the nigga wasn't really like eating,

bro. I wake up, I'd smoke on the dead homies. I might eat a burger or something in the middle of the day, but shit other than that, I wasn't really eating like that. In jail, I really eat up, get greedy on the dead homies to do my pushups and do my tuts up. So every time I get out, I'll be sized up. Really?

But you just can't carry that over to the real world? Oh, no, I'm in the trophy up, because it's something. I'm for the trophy up because, hell of you. I'm going to get it back, though. My whole little life in the change. But when you say Trovia, is it important for you to be that guy from where you're from? Because you, I feel like it's been kind of underrepresented, right? Like, you can talk about 60s as like hell of famous rappers who came from there and shit.

Yeah. When we talk about the 40s, it's like maybe people don't know as much about it. And you could kind of be the one to, like, make your hood even more. more well-known. Nikes know about the 40s, c'all. Right. Homies. Niggas know about the hood, because I'm not the first one that's like, before I meet you, it was KS. I don't know if you've been real KS, but shit.

K-S, you know, did the shit with YG that nipped up, been from the gang, something. Being from the gang, yeah, it was, car. And the game B was just, like, in and out of jail, so that's what, like, fuck, cut a little shit off. But hell know all day that. Niggas been to about the rolling 40s, because I'm not going to never, like,

lead out that mesh. It's like, oh, I'm putting the hood on the mat. Because niggas already know about the hood, I'm just like taking this shit like far Cause right Hood already on the map Niggas already know about us I'm just like fin to do some shit that a lot of the homies

They never did though Right yeah not to take anything away from But it's like you know anytime there's a hood in L.A. And they have a rapper coming out And there's it's not necessarily a place That has had a shitload of rappers come out before I can always kind of feel that level of pride Like even Blueface is like a reality star damn there now

Him putting on schoolyard and all his tweets and shit I mean like that's kind of crazy like that's that's Making it so much bigger as a result. Yeah, it'd be like that, because it could be a nigger from like a bullshit hood. The mugs can be far deep, 10 deep, but they just got like a famous-ass nigger, and they're just making it look so good. So they got the streets really confused or the people that really don't know about this shit but if you know, you know.

Right. So on the dead and homies, we ain't really had nobody that really like make it like that far out the hood. Like far as like with this rap shit, we got niggas like with this rap shit. We got niggas that little shit, though. Like I said, NFL and not the little shit, I own businesses and all the 40s got all the type of the type of niggas over there. But for us with this rap sheet, we ain't really made it that far. Cud rapping making that shit look good right 100% but yeah niggins been new about the hood though

it's still sporty though right still sporty like the 40s sporty forever sporty forever right what is sporty like what is that mean to you what you think about being sporty what you think about being spody yeah you just like you just spotty yeah you just spotty cut you ain't got no smote your name cut you just spotty you flop at spody can be different things though you're like your jacket is sporty spody well that motherfucker's borg is it I feel like your jacket is more sporty than mine I just got a hoodie but shout out thirsty p because sure shout out thirsty p cause Trifling. Thirsty Pete.

Yeah. You're a thirsty crib. I hear that in the songs a lot. Yeah, yeah, I'm a thirsty trip, co. What's your definition of thirsty in that regard? Different definitions, because you can be thirsty for us like, a thirsty nigga, like every time a bitch walk in the room or every time you run some bitches, you just like on them,

Cahina, don't even let the bitches breathe. Like, you're thirsty, bro, chill. Somebody got some perks. You get thirsty. Oh, yeah, thirsty, cah. And then you got niggas that just like, oh, oh, thirsty for up hunter. What do you say?

A thirsty. A thirsty. thirsty op hunter. Ooh, so somebody who's just dying to up the score. You're dying

up the score, because trying to up his rank. So which kind of sporty are you? Or thirsty are you? Which kind of thirsty am I?

Shit, because it depends. It depends of what there it is. It depends of what there it is. But the problem is

I'm for sure not, I'm for sure not one though because I don't be doing that no more because I don't agree that. The perks? No,

no, I don't never I don't do perks. I don't do perks. I never put the perk in my life I don't even like, yeah, that perch shit, I'll be telling my, I don't even like my niggas pop perks, because I be telling him, bro, that shit out, okay, I don't eat that shit, they'll only, I don't like, bitch, that pop perch. That's going to turn me off. Right.

Hey, I'm cool on that shit. Hell no, I never pop perks. Hell no, but damn, what the fuck I was going to say before this? What I was saying? In terms of just being thirsty, like, there's a lot of different. Yeah, been thirsty, yeah, oh, yeah, as far as the first one, y'all grew down. Because as far as, I've been thirsty when the bitch walk in the room, hell no. I'll be letting bitches like really get up on me now

Cause a nigga two trophied up And now that a nigga's so troffied up Cause a bitch is trying to have stories to tell Cause you get up on the bitch or on a dead Homies and they'll go run and tell everybody Yeah You're gonna end up with the same problem that sexy Red has Where she'd be giving pussy to just random dudes

And then the dudes go on Instagram live Or film her or whatever to expose it right after Because she's so famous And feels like she wasn't like ready for the fact That dudes were gonna be like that Because that's thirsty That bitch a fucking rack bro You came on the dead homies bro

But a bitch are rack cause She's just gonna be a rat. No matter where you take her, you can take a bitch to Dubai and give her all the money, bro. Bitch is gonna be a fucking rat, bro. Damn, she just,

that's bum. But she's not the one exposing it. They're the ones exposing her. But she's the one that's doing that shit. Bitch, you got all this money. You can be on a dead homies. But you can go be somebody wife right now.

But you just play your fucking role, right? You just so caught up at this rat shit, you just on the day out. That's what she get. Right. Oh, that's her business. But, I mean, for somebody like her?

Exposed because you're going to keep in a rat. Rats gonna always be disposed. Yeah, but her problem is that she wants to fuck. She would probably fuck with you. Like, if she came here and she just happened to meet you, boom, she would get your number. She'd be trying to holler at you, I guarantee. I don't know, I don't get that bitch the cold shoulder.

It's not going to work? Hell no. Is it just a red that turns you off her? It's just the way she is, bro. She's just the way she is, bro. She's just a bullshit. You can find them type of bitches anywhere. It's somebody type of bitches on the block right now.

On a dead homie. But she's the one who made it. Yeah, but shit, her. Hell no. That's what make it worse. Before you became what you've become now, she would be like, oh, he's just another dude hanging out on the block, right?

But now, like, once you become a trophy, like, she's a trophy for St. Louis. She's the best trophy they got. She's a trophy. I'm not on a dead homie. She's a trophy for sure. On a dead homie, she's a trophy, but she's a fucking trophy rat. But would it weird you out? Like, let's say that you were feeling her, but she's doing all this blood shit.

Would that be weird for you as somebody who's such a dedicated crib, or is it all good? No, that shit don't mean nothing. My baby mama blood. Really? Yeah, my baby mama blood, bro. She, like, out the lanes, projects on Crip. That shit don't mean nothing. You know, no, on the dead homies, but I wouldn't fuck with sexy red, though.

Really? Hell no. But, okay, having your baby mama be of blood is, like, does that ever get awkward? Because not even just you and her, but I feel like there's got to be brothers or family members or people on her block that, that all of a sudden feel some type of way about her being involved with you, right? No, because I'm the type of nigga car, doing the bitch, fuck on me, she on what I'm on my mom. She on my program, because on the dead homies. If you, like, game, banging tight bitch and hanging on the block and doing all that, when you

give with me you're not gonna be on that on gang so I made her into like some hoes she was on some whole other I don't fuck her right now though we're not on dead homies isn't already on crib but when I was like on that type of time with her I made her to like a different type of bitch girl to her to where she wasn't even on that type of shit gang banking type of shit so she would you wouldn't even know she was from nowhere until like she told you or less I told you type of shit she ain't just like blood and just super like when those type of bitches but she's from over there though but what if a girl like swims up in your DM she's trying to throw some pussy at you but then when you're looking at her page,

you start to realize, like, oh, she's really from your out hood. Yeah. Like, that shit didn't happen, because our business is trying to get up on me on the dead homies. Our business really tried to get up on me. Right. And real bitches from the other side with the dead homies. But I don't be trusting bitcher, bro. So the main concern is, like, they could be trying to get you lined up.

But then besides that, would you be down to fuck with them? Because, you know, whatever, like, who cares? It's a girl? No. Really? Hell no. Can't do it. No, I can't do it, because I can't do it.

I can't do it. I can do it Not at the point I am now I've been trophy I don't know I'm on some I'm turning booji bro I'm turning boozy

Cause that's what it is Cause I'm gonna just put it out there Cause I'm turning boozy Bro on the day on me Certain bitches that could have Had a chance They ain't got no chance I'm gonna'clock

I'm gonna be a certain type of bitch Now c'all No more regular bitches Getting head no more Nothing on a dead homies This is Trophy shit Cause trophy shit only

I wish I had that strength To not fuck random chicks From back in the day But you used to be fucking Like random bitches back in there Well I'll give you a story is that like 10 years ago, this chick who was like the hottest chick in my high school, I was probably, I was probably out of high school for like 10 years.

She hits me up and she's just like trying to kick it. We kick it and like she gets way too drunk. Like I had to drive her ass home from the bar and shit because she just was like falling down, puking and shit. And I'm still kind of salty. Turn off. I hate a drunk. Oh yeah.

So disgusting. Yeah. I hate a drunk bitch on crib. Because she's puking on the ground. I'm smelling her pukes. It smells like shit. Yeah, yeah, I did. I got a blanket and put it over.

You did good. On the ground. But, uh, yeah. Like that fucked me up because I really thought I was about to get a pussy that night. And then she got too drunk and I didn't get to. And this was like the baddest bitch from when I was like 18. Yeah. And I'm still kind of salty about that.

Damn. So what you got to, you got to set that up again. You got to catch her on a different time. You got to tell her though, because, bitch, don't be getting drunk. Cause I don't like that. You got to get a bitch on what you want her to be on. She's going to do it. You're a nigga, bro.

You got to tell her, bitch, I'm at him. Bitch, you do what I want you to do. I had been out of high school for like 10 years when this happened. But it's still that was like 12 years ago. Yeah. So, like, now she 40, just like me. Oh, yeah. So, I mean, the time goes by, I still look all right.

That's a cougar compared to me. Yeah, but a lot of- I like cougars, Cah. A lot of business do not end up in the cougar category. They end up in the old gross lady category, I don't know. Yeah, yeah. But the way you just explained to her, though, she's just a cougar, car. I don't know, she's the baddest bitch.

I ain't seen her for like 12 years, so I don't, I feel like she's not anymore. Oh, yeah. I feel like she looks like shit now. And also, I'm just never going back to my hometown. Oh, yeah. It's just too dead. Why it's too dead This is nothing going on

Yeah Yeah Like that And I'm married So I should probably throw that in there too Um Should have said that first Okay but so

When did you start getting your whole face tattoo Uh I got like a couple before I went to prison I had like three I had the Rolly Crown Then I had the Spody Face The dead homie name Spottie face And then I got the thirsty drips

Cause I'm a thirsty Crip I'm a thirsty Crip on her Then I just went to jail cut And I just like on some I feel like I was never really getting out I took six. I was just on some young. I was like,

I was like, I'm not feeling like that. It's a long time, bro. I feel like life to me. Yeah. So I'm like, this what it is.

Fuck it. So I'm like, I just start getting tattoos and that motherfucking reception. Right. So you just get locked up and you're just not even thinking about the future

because you're just... Yeah, bro. Jelle is his own world. Jail is like a different world. But when you're in there, like you tapping in and every time you tap into the streets and you hear some shit,

all that shit gonna do is just just stress you out. We'll do you just drive to do something where we do doing this or this or this shit just gonna stress you out like fucking they get to the streets right so I really don't even trying to just focus on too much of the street cause I'm just gonna be stressed the fuck out so jail is the own world

you gotta really focus on what the fuck is going on in here yeah people told me fall in this dorm who did bunk and what a little bit of what niggin out to get on like nigger focused on what the fuck is going on in here bro people tell me it's not it doesn't it's almost worse when you have a phone because then you're watching everybody's Instagram stories and shit and you're just kind of getting annoyed and angry

at the fact that you're not able to participate in all this cool shit, right? It's worse, but then it's kind of better, cuck, on the dead homies, as pros and cons having the phone, because, yeah, you're going to miss the streets and all that type of shit. But then, cause, on the dead homies, because then, because on a dead homies, because bitchs, because bitches be lying, because on the dead homies, cuss, I'm doing this,

I'm right here, I'm right here. Dead homies, bitch, you got that phone, because you can't play on the dead homies, yeah, bitch, I'm popping up on you. What you doing, bitch? Right. But then at the same time, you might be just laying there in your bed, driving yourself fucking crazy looking at the phone all day, right? Yeah, yeah, I was a phone band in jail too, bro.

Really? Yeah, I'm on the phone. I come out for the yard for unlock or two, depending on who the fuck I hear, show my face. Nate, but I'm out of here. Damn, my, me's. I'm back in the cell. On the phone. On the phone.

Just staring at that shit all day. Dead omies. Damn, bitch busted open. Crip. I was on like a reality show set the other day, and so I had to film shit, but in between, I have like an hour or two to just nothing. And I'm just, like, looking at Twitter and Instagram for, like, two hours straight. And I'm just thinking, like, this is what it would be like if I was locked up,

because I would just be looking at Twitter. and fucking Instagram all day. But then shit, you can't do that, though, because you will fucking get caught, because I didn't got caught on some phones too. Because you got to be low-key about it out? Yeah, you got to be low-key. The guy can't got caught on some phones, bro.

That shit, 91 days, bro, no get back. What, 91 days in solitary? Nah, just they're going to add 91 days to your motherfucking to your sentence, girl, and you can't get that time back. Damn. So you're going to lose a phone. Your point's fin to go up,

and you're fin to get 91 days, so it's cool having a phone, but you better be, you better accept what comes with if you get caught with that motherfucker. A lot of niggas ain't. and that's why some niggas be What made you decide You wanted to get the HK in your face

This feels like that's a big decision Yeah cause on the dead homies Because well I had a big I had a big brother from over there Hmm Gang I had a big brother from over there His name was Dante My family before we moved to the hood

Cause he stayed on 79th and hoover Over there On the day of my whole family And like I said my big brother From over there And one night He was walking to go get some weed And then uh

Cah ended up getting smoke Cah on the dead homies So when my brother got smoked on Crip My mama walked outside Like seen on the dead Homies like Cud chest smoking On the dead like the whole little shit

Like seeing her son dead bro On the dead homie so like fuck my mom up On Crip fucked her up And that's why she started Like really been in the streets more And really like start on hood I was like two years old So from right

From when that happened We moved from right there 79 to the hood on the dead homies A nigga been growing up in the hood Every since Cah On the hood But like I said Cause when that happened

That shit fucked my mama up Cah Cah Seeing her son die on hood that shit fucked her up on the day homies then the nigger that did it co on the dead homies he guys already got banged out 40 already got life for us so i can hook what's a nigger from snow will he on her so he got sentenced for killing your brother yeah car already got sentenced for he got banged out for he's already on her so dickens on the dead homies but culls from hoochies car that did it on her on the dead homies but oh right god so i had a big antique car my big auntie from the hood

she was the first one i got put on the hood on a dead homies she was already from the hood and she had like a sweater, I guess. This is the story the family told me. She had a sweater with Clovers and shit on the Coves on the dead homies. And my brother, Cove was going to go get some weed. So Cud, throw the sweater on on a day homies late night, on some cold shit, just a regular sweater, but they got Clovers and shit on. But I do the same shower. I wear all type of enemy has, too. So Cove's just on some, throwing a sweater on type of shit.

On Cripe, I'm going to go get some weed up over there. And some niggas from Hoves, cut. But a different part of the Hoowis, my brother's from 7-4. I guess some nicks from 50s put up on Cud. I'm just seen the Clovers. Like, oh, you fin to die on a dead homie, whatever they said, hopped out on a dead homie smoke, Crip. My mama seen it. Dead homie Spir on the streets on Crip, so yeah, I hate Hoochie's cubs on some game-banger shit on a dead

homie, but this shit hit different with the Snoochie, bro, they caused, like, emotional damage to my family type shit. I never even got a chance to be my brother, bro, because I was two years old. So when I say on, is HK here different on Crip, my hush, my hK hit different. There's a lot of people who say that shit just because they're from there. Yeah, they're just saying it. A lot of people, real saying that shit

They ain't never even on a dead homies, bro. Squabbed no nigger from over there. Ain't never popped on no niggum from over there. Ain't ever, ain't dead nothing to no nigga from over there. They're just saying it because it's cool when you know when a dead homies just on crib. When you think about it, when you're from your own, bro, we just taught to say fuck over there before I even knew what the fuck one of the

niggas even look like. I just saw what a big brother do it all. I just know what a fuck snoo than little kid's in it. So in a damn, that's what a lot of people be doing, bro. Just all that fuck snoo and really doing all that. But if they see real niggas from over there too though, though. I'm in a dead homie.

They're in the county jail. Niggas niggas were snuva. O's whacked out. All that shit, too. They're ready, too, on a dead homie. So you're saying all that shit when you're going to county jail, be ready, cah. But when you're locked up,

you're probably, like, having conversations and getting to know people from Hoover. Oh, yeah, hell yeah, bro. On the dead homie, bro. No, no, where you're from, because certain type of niggas, you're going to always, you know, connect real type of niggas from everywhere connect.

So it don't matter just because they have opt on hood. Like I said, it's real nicks from over there, too. But could you be cool with them outside of the jail situation? I don't know, car. I don't know on the dead homies. It's niggas from the niggas that I was cool with because in prison that was really like my boys type shit on the dead homies. And just based off that, when I see you on the street, I won't smoke you, car. But I wouldn't just chill with you though on the dead homies because you're still from Snover, bro.

But you were you my boy, because a nigga ain't for on a day homie. Just for that. I'm not going to smoke you, car. But I wouldn't chill with you though. Like I've had conversations about the whole peace treaty conversation with people and the one thing, that a few people have made perfectly clear is that if you want to talk about peace in L.A. is 60s and Hovers.

That's the one split that would have to be fixed. And then you can kind of talk about everybody else starting to get along more or whatever. But that's like the primary gang war in L.A. Could you imagine peace? No, I wouldn't say that's the, I don't know, because we go out of with the Hoosies more than them because on the dead humis,

they'd be more like on the day homies. They'd be more like on a day homies. Because I was really like more like on a day homies go out of that than the day. Sixth old. They be on them, too, but I feel like they be more like on the eight trades, God. Could you imagine peace in L.A.?

Hell no. It's just way too deep. Yeah, it's too much bloodshed because too much shit to happen, bro, on the dead homies, niggas and lost brothers, cousins, mom's-in-law, sons. It's like too many tears and, hell no, too many years. It's going to stay up like this, girl. Right.

And I saw when you were doing the street news interview or whatever that he's basically like, you said the Hoover gang diss or whatever, and then he kind of like was trying to give you an out to get you to not say that on his platform because it kind of makes him look a little bit crazy if you got a young dude just saying that shit without him saying anything and you made it perfectly clear like,

no, I'm saying it. Like I'm not worried about that. Yeah, man. Cubby on the dead homies, bro. Cuppie to do his research on me, bro. I'm not fin of nice it up on those type of platform, bro. I don't have you. Hoochies.

Fuck them. But you don't bring too much of it into the music, I feel like, right? Nah, I got smarter. I got smarter with that. Just more subliminals now. More subliminals on gang. Is that because you just don't.

want to make anybody famous or is it more like you're just trying to avoid certain level of beef getting to a certain point or uh no not that cut nigger won't everybody listen to the music car don't matter car where are you from i just want everybody listen to it so i don't say more it's blimmol's than if i say this if i say hoogies or even though they shit i'm still playing the the song that i was saying with the distance shit but that's not like a go-to song like in a car type shit that's just on some listen to it like look what this nigger saying type shit that's not no song you can really like listen to type shit on gang so i want to make song you can really like listen to and enjoy really so i i say subliminal car i want to disnobody good because i know i'm not

gonna be listening to no song i got fucked the hood in it right on cribs so i want the next person to have that type of definitely do you listen to any of the chicago drill shit oh yeah i got a couple songs by king vina fuck with uh a lot of the older shit too like rana number nine all that type of shit on game you influenced by that because i feel like a lot of l-a dudes are kind of influenced by Chicago music-wise. Nah, hell no, bro. That shit, that shit bunk, bro. I hate what niggas be doing.

I hate what niggas from L.A. even try to rap on, like, Detroit bees and be trying to do the Detroit shit, because, like, on a dead homies. And that's why niggas from L.A. are really not going to go that far, cause on the dead homies. Because niggas be so busy worrying about

what Atlanta doing, what Detroit doing or what these other people doing. They can't never focus on getting L.A. booming, because do what you do. Because L.A. needs to have its own sound. Exactly, bro. And that's why I'm always be trophied up, because I don't worry about what the next nigga doing.

I'm not rapping on a Detroit beat, bro. I'm not worrying about what Cud doing, Cud doing, bro. I'm gonna do what I do, bro. I'm gonna just trophy up for me on crap. My own sound. They stole my other flow. I switched it up.

I'm a trophy up off me, car. But I feel like you, like I've never listened to your shit and thought that it sounded like some old school L.A. shit or some G-funck shit. Yeah. But do you feel like you have like a sound that's still kind of rooted in an L.A.

I feel like I just got my own sound, I just feel like I just rap like different, Cah. I just like be on some like different shit. I don't know, Cah. I'll be on some like different shit It's still LA though But like I'd just be like on some different shit

Right Yeah people think like Cause Nip like the biggest thing Cause I really made it from L.A. Cause when you say like LA They think you're just supposed to be like on some Nip type shit Smart as fuck just Hey oh no cause Nip was different

Cause everybody can't be like that But to me what Draco represented more than anything Yeah Draco too Like a new wave of L.A That didn't sound like any old school Jeep funk type shit Yeah yeah yeah yeah Draco You wanna deal homies

Right and now it's like there's like a weird gulf in LA where it's like there's so many rappers that sound like Draco but then he's missing in action and it's just kind of I don't know it's just like it's hard for people to wrap their head around who like the next

king of L.A. is going to be ever since he had to lose. They're trying to put that title on me cut but I'm not going to claim that title bro in the deal because I know how I look at other people because they say they to face L.A. or the face of this or face if you're the face of that then what the fuck we're doing then, nigga. There's too many trophies because I just say you to just face.

But you're making me think about the fact that when I listen to your music, it is filling some of that void that I feel like Draco left because there are some similarities musically and stuff. And not to put that much pressure on you or whatever, but just like I feel like there's something about what you're bringing to the table that reminds me a lot of Draco. Like just the fact that you clearly love rapping and love flows and love like saying weird intricate shit, weird out of pocket stuff that people don't necessarily expect. And that was something I was loved about Draco too. Yeah. on game, hell yeah, bro. And that happened, that came from when I switched it up, from going to notes to just punching in.

When I just start punching in, like I said, I'm just like a natural popper anyway. So when I'm punching in, it's the shit that just come to my head just off the dribble. So once I start just punching in, on game, my shit started being different. My cadence, shit that I say, how I said, should start being different.

So all this recent shit, all this shit like lately, just being me punching in, bam straight off the head. I should have been doing it. I probably would have been. But I'm just, when you write on notes, you might second guess yourself, take back, delete that, put this, it just be like too much because so we're just like punching in it just like this what it is

is you right so everything I start punching in because I just start trophying up because that's me definitely how'd you end up connecting with uh ralphi uh ralphy bann fuck on me since i had my like first song on soundcloud a lot of people were saying it was similar to because when you come out because you first started doing this rap and shit everybody gonna always say you sound like somebody everybody just be looking for something to say so when i first on the day homies made my first song dude doos everybody was saying i sound like ralphi because they hyped it up so much that it got to attention of ralphi like oh they're um they're cussed post it on this story and tapped in on gang and just telling me like

they homies he fuck with the song so much and all that type of shit cause and then shit I ended up running the cuss in the county too ran to cut in the county and then shit yeah he been fucking with me though since I was you know nigga 16 or something my first song I was glad when I saw you guys having music together and shit like that because then nobody can say

that you're like you know trying to be like Drago or some shit because if you have respect from his brother I'm not trying to be like no nigga bro I don't I do what I do that's why I wear A-chats and I do what the fuck I do bro I don't do I do I always do what I do I don't care about what the next thing good do. How'd you end up doing a song with Remble, though?

Yeah, Ramble. When I was fucking in prison, because I had a message from fucking, from Ramble, but it was already, it was already gone. He had mentioned me in this story, but I guess so much time I passed by,

because it just disappeared. I hate that, and you got to message them and say, like, sorry, I missed it. What did you post? And they're like, I don't know. So it was like mentioned me in the story, but I didn't know who the fuck he was,

but I don't know who the fuck this nigga was. So, like, but I seen he had a blue check. He had all these followers. I'm seeing his little shit. So I tap in one of these little bitches. I'm like, man, who's the nigga Rimbo? She's like, oh, he's hard, like, with you.

Like, he's like a rapper, dude. I'm like, oh, yeah, he had mentioned me in his story, but I ain't see that shit. He's like, oh, yeah, she, he's hard. You should fuck with him with you. On gang, so I just tapped in with him. I had, like, I liked the message. I'm like, ganglan.

He's like, ganglan. When you come home, I'm going to do some shit, we're going to do it up with you, on the dead homies. And then shit, when I came home, Cud just kept his word, dead homies. Hit it up. As soon as I came home

He'd like send me something Went to the stool I sent her something And this before This before I had a video This before I even had a song On Apple or anything I still had like

6,000 7,000 followers where I'm in prison on the day I'm just all songs off SoundCloud On gang But Cudges like He was just like fucking with it He was fucking with He's not like these other niggas

That's trying to tap in Now that the nigga got motion Now that the nigga Trophy in up all these Dick riding ass bitch ass Knicks trying to damn We'd be in a nigga DM That same nigg that the nigga

That same nigg that a nigga been Trying to get songs I was curved The nigga now they back on the nigga dick. He ain't like one of them Niggas. Cudman tapped him with me since I had like 7,000 followers, no videos, no nothing.

That's what I really fuck with Cud, my day homies. Rimbabro. Yeah, I love Rumble's music. And the nigga, like, what's those shit? Bro, nigger fin to sell up the splits, all the shit. Like that's you, gang on one nothing. Oh, that's what I'm. Yeah, homies.

Yeah, homies. Yeah, homie. I fuck a Rumble for sure. Definitely. You know, so you can fuck with Rumble and fuck with Ralfi and it don't matter. It's not that serious. I mean, shit, that ain't got nothing to do with me, bro. I'm from rolling 40s, and plus I was in jail

when that shit happened. In plus, bro, on Crip, that's, yeah, that's them niggas, bro. And, like, none of them niggas never said nothing about it, bro. On the dead homies, I fuck a Rambo, I fucker Ralphie. On Cripp and I steal. Like, there ain't no, like, you knickers ain't like bustling on each other. There ain't, like, no shit like that type.

It ain't no. It's like, just some, it's like, not even them two niggas personally. It's just like some, oh, I don't really even know too much detail. So they mean, I even speak. I don't know, because I don't know, because I don't know, because they didn't even like them two makes like personally type shit i don't feel like they i definitely would love to see you make more music with with ramble as your style develops though

because to me he's like definitely one of my favorite rappers coming out of L.A., and I feel like the more shit that you guys end up doing together like I don't know somehow I feel like that could be like a really great dynamic duo for sure for sure yeah like I could imagine y'all going on tour together and shit you know yeah because he be talking crazy i'll be talking crazy too the shit he'd be saying i'd be like on that damn and then I feel like we'll challenge each other in the studio too was i hear him talking crazy all right now I'm to pull out this and then he's seen me talking like this now he's pulling out this and now we just like keep like yeah that will be dope though for sure yeah yeah he's got a big vision too i could

tell that he really he wants to do like great things with his career he don't want to just be a regular ass rapper yeah he doing yeah he like yeah he's different too girl he don't be posting like that he's he he made a video wasn't even in it right you ever been to fuck man you ever been to sampeger who the fuck he think he is bro that nike me didn't it yeah i've been in san pshaw yeah i've been in san pjro i used to go out there ride bikes all the time so it's kind of crazy to me that he's from there because I never even knew that that was a place that had street shit going on like that. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. No, yeah. No, yeah. They go up on game. I saw this video that alleged that it was you involved in this crazy ass shootout. What was that situation? Maybe it might not have been you.

I'm not 100% sure. Yeah. I don't think it was me. Okay. But that wasn't related to any of the cases that you cut? Well played. Okay. So

It's kind of hard to pick another question after that Okay, in a more general sense Is it weird for you to have people Kind of taking videos and images of you from the internet And just like telling stories about you on the internet and stuff I'm sure we haven't even seen the true extent that we might Of like documentaries and people just making videos about you and shit Is that a weird new thing for you?

you to be dealing with? Yeah, bro, that shit crazy, bro, on the dead homies, and people just be sending me shit, like, oh, look at this shit, look at this shit, I'll be, like, crazy and I'd be looking at it.

I'm, that shit funny, car. Yeah, that shit crazy. But I already knew, like, on the dead homies that that shit was, like, going to come with this shit. Like, the bigger, the bigger of a trophy, nigga,

get, like, the more is gonna, like, be, cah. So, like, yeah, yeah. Do you think you're ready for that level of attention? Yeah. Hell, yeah, I'm ready for it. I'm ready for it.

Have you already had to, like, kind of change a lot of habits and how you move around? I'm not the type of nigga, car, that just already, like, move or I don't already move like I'm in a mob, because I don't just be doing anything, bro. I don't be anywhere. I don't, like, just doing anything, because this type of shit is going to, like, fit my life perfect, because I'm, like, out the way, like, out the way. Young boy type, nigga, because out the way, up, up, out the way, all the money, crib, out the way. Well, young boys only up in the crib just because the thing. Yeah, your house arrest. Yeah.

Yeah, he used to be outside acting crazy as fuck. Even in L.A., when he first moved out to L.A., I was seeing crazy videos of him, politicking with different people and being in the hood and shit. And I'm like, it's probably a lot better. But that's like a good lifestyle of live cut. Out the way, all the money, big house,

and just like just out to way, because, yeah, that's the type of lifestyle. Yeah, I just don't know pop out here and there to do certain little shit before. Just like having fun and doing all that shit. Going to the club. I'm not a club type of nigga. Here, get the money.

I'm being out of here. That's the type of, I'm going to be, I'm going to be, I don't like big crowds like that type of shit Right I mean there's so many things If you just look at like superstar rappers That you can point out

And like learn lessons from them Like look how Pop Smoke got killed out here Just from accidentally putting his address online Slash like you know Just being in an Airbnb without security and shit If he had just had like a couple of hotel rooms that night Instead of having an Airbnb he would still be here And that's just like another lesson

That you can kind of look at a rapper and learn that shit from him I even like think about 21 on a recent record he said like he goes last one was easy he pulls up on random hose and i'm like he's saying he said he said last one was easy what the last one was easy he pull up on random hose basically saying oh the dead oh me you know if you're moving sloppy out here it's gonna be easy for somebody who wants you gone to get out of here that's crazy because i said some shit too like that like kind on a song i did with phoenix flexing because i was like he think with his dick fuck it's in the bitch i don't get they go to the bitch at you care yeah

That's how that shit go, cah. But that used to be something that everybody just kind of took for granted is that one of the benefits of becoming a famous rapper is that you got to go fuck all these random hos. Yeah, man, on gang, car. You better just pick the whole wisely, because these bitches, because it's cold. And they be on the dead homies.

Definitely. Train, cold. But do you think that you could be living the life in a mansion locked away in Calabasas and not feel the need to still be up and shit? Because on one hand, it's like you're safe, you're comfortably, able to do your thing. But on the other hand, it's like, Like, your music is maybe going to get kind of boring if you're not, like, being around people and necessarily knowing what to talk about, right?

Yeah. Yeah, that is kind of true because on the dead homies. But shit, if it's working for you, then shit, keep it like that. I rather have it like that anyway on gang, just out the way. All the money. All the money out the way. Yeah. But yeah, that do make sense, though, because you is going to get, like, out of touch with the, like, certain little shit.

But you got, that's why you, I don't know. You should probably hire somebody to go do that. Go see what's going on. Yeah, yeah, no for real. But you see that all the time with star rappers. Shit, all you got to do is watch Instagram you and see what's going on.

You have everything to talk about. A Kanye or a Drake or whatever. They always will have the younger homies around him and shit that are kind of there to like tell them what's going on and shit. Like Drake needs a yachtie around to sort of let them know what's going on and fashion and how young people are talking to each other and shit.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, type shit on a dead, homies. At a certain point you need a little bit of that. One of the bars that really stood out to me in some of your songs is you have one where you said, The ops tried to come and score three, but we blocked it. Yeah. What does that translate to?

Basically, it's like cahs on the dead homies. Okay, it could be like three of the homies, Cull, standing on the block, Cunnered on the dead homies and the ops roll by, okay, say three homies because standing on the block. And it's like another homie or two in a car somewhere pulled off in the cut somewhere where the ops don't see, but these three niggas is visible, car, to ops eyesight,

so they roll by like, oh, look them three niggas. her if they get busy or if they try to do their thing but the niggins that they didn't see cause in the car glicked up. Get up on and get up off the homie. They blocked it. That's how you block it. That's how you block that three. Because then three niggas cubs when they get scored on by the ops cut but the homies blocked it. Right. I think

the weird thing about that is you're making it sound like being posted up outside is really, really important to the extent where you need to have a secret assassination team over here to stop anything from happening when you could just be in the crib. Yeah, that's how that shit go though, yeah. Right. Yeah. Definitely.

Okay, so there's been a lot of talk about who's managing you, who's working with you, et cetera. What are your thoughts on that when you have all these grown men sort of fighting to be the one standing next to you? This clout error is crazy, bro, on the dead homies, bro. This cloud on the dead homies, it's like a drug, bro. People are going to do whatever for it because I'm crips. So when people are just clout chasing, do whatever and say whatever, bro, you ain't. I just let them, because dead homies be all you can be, bro. That's on you.

But now my manager's out there, because. Oh, okay. Yeah, pool and swish. Oh, so Swish is formally part of your management team? Yeah, yeah. Okay. On game. Good to know.

I didn't realize that. Yeah. But so, yeah, because there's a few different people that we've seen you around and the people are saying are managing you. So 600, Christopher Lovejoy. He's been around you and stuff like that. Sixth century, that's my boy, though. On gang, he's straight.

Cud straight on a deal, homies. Cud straight. But it's not like a super formal business relationship? And that's all it is because just like, like just like business cause on the day homies if cug got like something for me like all artists want to do this or this coming up or look we're gonna go to the studio right here that's all it is though on the day of homie just shit like that just give me certain no resources and shit like that okay what about whack that ain't like my everyday like boy boy type

shit but on the day homies and a certain shit like cut like on hush so niggumptu what's the extenty relationship with whack uh whack straight on there humby's nigga mack a couple times on holly he just like gave me some advice and told me how much you fuck with me cause i'm holly and that song that i did uh uh well rimbo on day umies cause said he wanted to potentially possibly on her get blueface on that oh shit on game you're on a dead homies so yeah he was just telling me keep going and just how much he fuck with me and shit that's you're a blueface fan yeah blueface straight cuz he'd be talking crazy sometimes yeah could you ever see yourself uh making your relationship part of your public narrative like the way he has well like

like all that fight and shit well just all the shit with the girls you know and the baby mom i really don't like that type of shit but i really like to be like a player like on a dad homies like like Gucci man, how Gucci man and Cud bitches, bro, like Jay-Z and beyond like big dog player-like type status, bro. In the dead homies, what we're going through? Like, we could have just had a fucking, on the damn, the biggest fight ever, bro, when we walk out of this door on the dead homies, bro, this week on this type of time.

I don't want nobody to know what we on nothing, bro. So, bitch, I can't control her emotions and just do weak-ass shit and just public shit and doing all that shit week. I don't like that type of shit, because I want to be like my relationship. I'm a relationship, car. But if you want to be in a Jay-Z and Beyonce style relationship, we're going to have to figure out who your equal is because that's kind of why Jiji and Beyonce

seems so crazy. You know, just mind your equal. That's what it is, because different people bring out different sides of you because you will meet a bitch, bro, and she'll bring out the demon in you. You would never even know you had. Then you'll meet a bitch, because you just like on the dead homies, you just treat her like a fucking fly, like a queen.

That's the problem, though, is that you don't even know what level you're going to get to. And like six months from now, where you're at in your career is probably going to be way different than where you're at right now. And so, you know, it might be a little too early to really do that. Or you can get a girl.

friend for a period of time and then once you get big enough And I'm really like a good nigga bro, on the day homies. I got the biggest heart on Krip gang, I don't give a fuck, you my boy, on the day home you're out here on the block. Crip gang, nigga, you cold here. Take a sweater on the dead homies, nigga. Whatever, I'm like a good, nigga, I really got a good heart, because I really know to treat a bitch,

because a nigga just waiting for that right bitch to bring out that right side of me, because the bitches lately been bringing out that demon, car. Because these bitches be on the day homies embarrassing, on all to shut up. Just all the type of shit, cah. Bitch, I always got something to say back. Just, yeah, bitches don't know to play their role,

Cah, when you got a certain type of nigger, because you got to just sit back and just play a Role with a nigga. You gotta just play a role. What are you doing on, like, average Friday night? Like, if you're not in the studio, if you're just hanging out your crib with a girl, what are you doing? Just watching Netflix, smoking weed? Oh, yeah, just smoking.

I'm not too much big on TV, Cud, like that. I'd be trying. I don't know. It is weird in jail. I can run through a whole series, because in the day. This is no options. Yeah, there's no options. Because the nigga just right there just doing that.

But shit, when I'm on the street, I try out, I'll put a movie on. I never end up on a deal. homies. But shit, the niggins be right there just chilling, cull, chilling, smoking, just wiping out on crib. I feel the same way, though, that, like, I'll look at Netflix. I'll be like, there's a thousand fucking things for me to watch here. How do I not want to watch any of them?

Yeah. But I can look at my phone. I can look at TikTok for two hours. Yeah, on the day. No problem. All day. Watching people get arrested. I'm watching, like, fights breaking out.

I'm watching podcast clips. Girls do with little skits and shit. I do that. I do that. I scroll, like, on TikTok and see, like, little videos on TikTok. Are you mastermind and how are you going to use TikTok to blow up? Yeah, man, I need to heal. Let me try and put something together, because I just know I'm not going to be doing

a weak-ass, weird-ass dances, because I just feel in the water down my image, bro. Right. Hey, I'm not fiend to be doing no weak-ass, bro. You got to keep it. You got to keep it. You know, like, maybe you could move a little bit, do a little bit of a wiggle or some shit. Yeah, a little bit. But I don't even too much and even know how to do all that, because I don't even know, I don't even, I'm not a new danceer.

Yeah. I had a couple moves here in my videos. That'd be like, cut, but I'm a move or something. Cause you stiff. Nah, I do a little something to something. I don't like doing that shit I don't like doing that shit, car rap.

It's just weird because it's like TikTok has made dancing so much more normalized but then it's hard to get away from the fact that it's still some ho-ass shit most of the time, right? You just look goofy as fuck doing it. Yeah, cause I'm crippling, I was, man, yeah, yeah, niggas be looking goofy, car.

Niggas be looking goofy, car, that shit not straight on the dead homies. Definitely. Noges be doing going out bad, car, for the, for the, for the likes. Yeah. Because you was a real crap, you did that? What do you think is the,

the state of LA's rap scene, though. Do you feel like it's healthy or you feel like it's kind of in a weak state right now and you're looking to help it out? No, I feel like it's good, it's going up, because it's going up. I feel like it's rising. You got a lot of good, good artists, because in L.A., because that's, like, name going up more and more. That's where we, like, tiptoeing really to, like, that industry side,

because they're like, you know, no, gang, it's going up. Definitely. Do you think people are scared to fuck with L.A. artists, though, because they're afraid that everybody's just going to get them extorted or some shit out here? that's the reputation that the city got what people are like gonna get them extorted yeah a lot of like i think rappers are scared to link up with l-a rappers when they're in the beginning of their career because they're afraid that if they tap in with the wrong people that all of a sudden they're gonna be paying the toll every time they come to l a and shit i've seen it happen yeah yeah yeah but i don't feel

like that's why the industry spook because energy just spook cuss cause probably could probably because the game banging shit. On the dead homies, if we signed him, he probably gonna, I don't know. I don't know what the fuck, bro. On the dead homie, they just spooked that later, they spooked those.

Mm-hmm. But I'm fin to kick that door down, though, because I'm fin the trophy up at a crazy level. I got some... Have you been doing the meetings with the labels and everything like that? Yeah, I got some shit going, cause. Okay, because last time I asked you that question...

Yeah, that's when I asked me that, bro, on the dead homies, bro, on a Crip gang gang. Because, you know, I said, yeah, they wasn't, bro, because everybody thought I was that picture of whack on the deal with me, So everybody thought I was signed a whack. Right.

So they really was like on some like, nah, I could probably like on her. And then, you know, whack posted me. So they was like on some on game. But I posted that that, uh, fucking I'm not signing with you up. On game, bro. Snap over finger, bro. On the hell, I'm a nigga for now. Yeah.

I can't say too, too much, but I'm a- I had a dude that I know who's like a huge industry dude. And I was just like, yo, sign this kid. And he already like had done his research and stuff. And he was already like, he hadn't reached out, but he had told me like, yeah, we already have done some looking into. him and everything. And I was like, you should just do it. And he did say, he's like,

yeah, but I heard he's like signed to a few different people. Yeah, a few guys. Everybody was thinking. And I was like, he told me he's not signed to anybody. So I'm pretty sure you get in there if you want to. Yeah. Hell no, but I'm fin a, I'm a dead homie, bro, nigga. I'm in a, I'm in a shock, I'm in shock y'all, though. I feel like labels, a lot of times a lot of times, a lot of times, a lot of times, a lot of times the stuff that they can do with the artist is pretty crazy. I feel like, yeah. You just need money behind you. You just need promotion.

The more they put you out there in front of people, the more singles that are getting pushed and stuff. Like, I think Remble has crazy natural talent. But also, I saw the way five million fucking people were making TikToks using his music. And that caused five million other people that make TikToks using his music. Like, he had the label in his corner for that project,

and it was making his shit blow the fuck up. And I feel like if you had that same push, it could definitely be a crazy-ass year. We're often in take all, bro. Definitely. crit i'm gonna be out of here x4 in the city as much as you say that la is in a healthy state

i do feel like from the street rap perspective because i'm comparing LA to like new york and chicago oh if you do the comparison thing if you do the comparison thing and hell no then we bunk skunk bro if you're doing the comparison thing we bunk skunk

i'm just looking at it like just like us type shit like for us like on a dead homies a lot of like niggas like cool buds and like doing their shit type shit but for us like compared to certain little cities because LA ain't like really like on a day homies, bro. When I look at... But it's gonna get... bro, I'm telling you, bro, I'm gonna gonna throw in a trophy up, because you got me, though, I'm gonna put on a

cape and say to date. Right, because when I look at like New York drill videos and shit, it's like, I'll see a random motherfucker doing a million views, a couple million views all the time. And then when I think about L.A., I'm like, from a like street, gangster rap perspective, there's not that many artists that seem like they're hidden as heavy as that. It's funny to even

be doing an interview with you right now, because I feel like the conversation in terms of like how many views you're getting and shit is gonna, is going to seem crazy on like a year how much different it's going to look. I'm telling you, bro. I'm telling you, fool. Because you're right in the middle of you're feeling it like the number of DMs you get per week is just seeming like it's going up super quickly and shit right now.

Yeah, everything is just going up. Numbers going up with you, like everything just going up. See it like crazy. I'm getting treated different. Like I just said, bro, crash, let me go. Yeah. So it's crazy. You got to just keep your head down and just keep working and grind in and don't put yourself

in crazy unnecessary situations. As soon as you told me that you don't do perks in the, lean. I'm like, all right, that's a really good sign because that makes me confident that you're not going to be out here in the streets moving like a idiot. I'm not an idiot, nigga, right? I ain't no trash dummy. Ain't no stupid nigga, bro. I don't do what niggas do, bro. I don't do what the

trends is, just because future raping about popping perks and everybody want to do that. That's on y'all bro. I do what I do what I do, because I'm always been like that. I always did what the fuck I always wanted to do. I've always been like horridated. I'm crib. I did what I wanted to do. On the other end, though, I could be a good listener too, because I don't

But I got, but I was horrid because I did what I wanted to do, but it worked. I don't really what it worked. 100%. I would deal what everybody else wanted me to do. It probably would have turned out different. Everybody telling me, switch it up. Stop rapping like that. Stop doing this.

Stop doing that. I'm doing. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. Now look. Imagine what I would listen to him. You know what, you're all right. Man, let me stop rapping like this.

I ain't going to never make it. Yeah, all right. Yeah, I feel like, you just need to like. They said that was good. They said, I need to switch it up. The music is just like, the music is already fire, but I feel like if you just focus on the music and just keep getting better and just keep just doing your thing and tweaking shit and working on your flows and different flows.

Yeah, that's what's going to be. Because I feel like you're kind of like a rapper's rapper in the sense that you're just fucking with the flow a lot and like just messing with the flow and trying different things. And that's the shit that's going to make people like who love rapping, like really respect you in the long run too. Yeah, I'm getting. Yep. The homie, I can be in there just trying like a little different little shit.

Like I said, that just like that punch and could I just be hearing the beat because I just be like on the day homies I put a wood in there and I just I just go they'd be like what the fuck I punch in like one word sometimes at a time one word two words people in whenever they watch me record they don't know where the fuck I'm going with it because then when it's done finished they'd be like what the fuck like when I first took the homie god he would me cut record he was like I don't know what the fuck he was fin to do cub he's like he's like when I he's like bro he's like bro he's like I got a different level I look at this shit different because he's like you sick bro that's funny I've been in the studio

with people like that where I'm listening to them record and I'm thinking like yeah this shit sounds terrible yeah that's about you know I think you hear the final thing and you're like ah okay now i get it all right you on a day home i'd be in there like bro i can do some i hear that all right shit you can't book leave on game just for that leave part just for that to be like sound like don't pop it um so you'll do one line but in three parts just to make it sound to make it sound a certain way real homies i want my i want that to be like my certain like type of like sound type shit wow and that shit like been working for me because i know like i'm mastered them more and more bro i just made some shit the other than like crazy

Who are you getting beats from? Is it just like random shit? Lately it's just been like FB, because I've been locking in with FB. Cud, no, my sound. We be in a stool together. They're like FB, like, I've been fucking with FB heavy. Okay. Oh, yeah.

Shout out of beat. That's my boy. Interesting. Okay. F. F. You know, he did all the time. Oh, he did that one too?

Yeah, that workout. I really fuck with that song. Okay. Yeah, F. Yeah, F. Yeah, I got a tab down with him then. All right. Makes sense.

Okay. Good thing. Good thing. All right. X-4. Next up out of LA. For sure. You're going to do us proud. I can feel it. For sure. No doubt. Trophy. Trophy. Trophy. No jumper. Trophy gang. For sure.

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