No Jumper - Yah-L On Pressing Roddy Ricch & Flakko, Writing for Mindless Behavior, & More

Episode Date: September 14, 2022

Flakko sits down with Yah-L to talk about Roddy Ricch, Clubhouse, Wack100 and more. ----- 00:00 Intro 0:33 - Yah-L explains how he and Flakko connected on IG after Flakko made some crazy comments 2:22 - Yah-L pressed Roddy Ricch on Clubhouse for not repping the city: “Do you know what it feels like to make $20M” line 6:00 - Flakko made a video talking about Yah-L 7:16 - How Yah-L ended up in a room with Wack 100 and Roddy Ricch 9:15 - Yah-L does his best Wack 100 impression, remembers meeting Roddy when he was 16 yrs old 11:30 - Recounting how Wack100 brought Roddy to the Clubhouse room 14:40 - How Wack’s energy shifted once Roddy entered the chat  17:25 - Yah-L clarifies whether Roddy is from the hood 27:03 - Yah-L explain why he pulled up to the hood after getting into an argument with Roddy’s people on Clubhouse 35:10 - Yah-L clarifies the rules around talking about street activities in music 36:55 - Yah-L explains that Compton is not as nice as it looks 41:51 - Yah-L doesn’t know anything about Soulja Boy's viral “Who says Soulja Boy not from the hood” video 43:28 - Yah-L’s has a whole mural dedicated to him in Compton 44:44 - Yah-L was Kalan.frfr’s coach 50:23 - Common mistakes that artists make when signing deals with labels 51:04 - Reacting to NBA Youngboy’s $60M deal and reports of fake views 52:33 - People are buying fake Clubhouse followers and getting scammed into fake music promo rooms 58:08 - Writing for Mindless Behavior. Connecting with Wallie the Sensei and catching a hit with “Scandalous” 1:03:15 - Yah-L was flattered when he first realized Roddy was using his melodic lyrical style 1:04:55 - Never thought about suing Roddy 1:10:51 - Yah-L was concerned for Flakko’s safety during the incident with the Latino community 1:16:10 - Flakko makes Yah-L pick between The Game, Chris Brown, and Too Short. Flakko disagrees that Chris Brown is like Michael Jackson 1:21:16 - Reacting to Quando Rondo’s recent situation in LA 1:24:35 - Yah-L explains why he decided not to beat Flakko up ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No jumper coolest podcast in the world and we're back again, man. Yeah, yeah, man. Ah. Wait. Wait. No. Wait, no, no, no, no. I wasn't throwing up nothing.

Yeah, nah. Yeah, yale, huh? Yeah. But, like, what's that though? Like, what did that be? Oh, that's the L. You know, I know, niggas don't like me. Yeah, that's the L.

You feel? Gotcha. Yeah, I know. All right. All right. what did we first meet? Instagram. Well, I'm going to say it was kind of like there was a situation.

Yeah. You made a comment. And I'm like, wait a minute. Hold on. Like, bro, this isn't it. You know what I mean? Like, let me reach out to you because I don't think you really understand the sensitivity behind that, you know, by the choice of words you use, like extortion

and that type of stuff. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. That wasn't never the case. You feel me? So the video that you're referring to. Correct. Was, well, first of all, thank you for not whooping my ass, right?

But, like, I see you on a old clubhouse. You was in a room called Hip Hop Trends. Correct. Shout out to Rockstar. That's my guy, KK, and my guys, man. Wait, wait, no, was it a hip-hop trance room that you did that in? No, it actually wasn't hip-hop trans. It was actually the shade room.

It was T-S-R. The shade room. Yeah, on Clubhouse. Like I said, I was like a newborn. I was birthing to this thing new. I didn't know nothing about nothing. You know, one of my homeboys was like, hey, bro, you should get on Clubhouse. And I'm like, what is Clubhouse?

And they like, you could meet artists, meet people. It's really for artists who's trying to connect. I'm like, okay. You told you the exact opposite of Clubhouse. Bro, I had no Clubhouse etiquette, bro. To connect? Yeah. Well, shit, I'm sitting here with you now.

So, I mean, but it was, It was real for that because I feel like at the end of the day, you're really a good dude. Despite of a misunderstanding, we're sitting here having a conversation. Of course. So, yeah, I'll salute that, you know, salute the real ones for that. You know what I'm saying? Nah. So what happened was there was a conversation where you was in a room with Roddy Rich.

And pretty much, you was telling Roddy, listen, man, you know, you ain't been to the hood in a minute. you out here, you know, like carrying that flag and using this to monetize it, you know. Correct. And make millions off it. Correct. But you know, coming back to at least like, you know, like not even money, but, you know, to just speak to niggers and, you know, and, you know, come back and show love. And then Roddy hit you with the infamous line.

Nigger, do you know how it feels to make $20 million? You have made $20 million. You have made a million dollars? I was like, whoa. Oh, bro. His chest was pumped. Yeah, man. He had that battery in his back, man.

He was. see the youngster didn't he didn't really understand you know what I'm saying and let's just be clear I never asked him for anything I never asked him for money I never asked him to help my career I never asked him to do anything for me mind you I had already established myself and was on the radio millions of views traction on a record on top of that I was already doing what I was doing so it wasn't nothing about myself it might have came off like that because I was so caught of guard by the reaction of what he was saying and I'm like whoa and then the prepping before that whole situation it just it just went a whole different way you know yeah so I've so what I heard that right

before I guess I got introduced to LA in fact none like not even LA culture but before I got introduced to I guess in a brotherhood culture correct correct right not gangs but brotherhood Brotherhood. Correct. Yo, because listen, I say the same thing, whereas, you know, gangs, you know, it's kind of like, for example, and if you go to college, right, you would join a fraternity. Yeah. And those are your brothers for life.

Even if you leave the fraternity, those are your brothers for life, right? Correct. So that culture of, yo, if you're taking, like, for example, Busy. Right. And he was wearing the, like, the, you know, like the fraternity, like jacket or... What fraternity was that? I don't know. Oh, I'm not even sure, right?

But they had a real issue with him carrying that flag and he never, you know... He never pledged. Yeah. See, and that's the thing. Your pledge means a lot. You got to go through a few events. You know what I'm saying? To let your brothers know, like, hey, I'm really down for y'all.

And that's, I think that's what people were missing. That what I was trying to say. If you're down for the community, come back to the community. It's children over there that don't know you. They ain't seen your face. They don't know what's what. They only can see and hear of what you're saying and what people say. And it's not, you know, it wasn't a good rapport.

You know what I'm saying? So my thing was as a quote unquote big homie, I'm trying to, you know what I'm saying? I'm trying to, hey, look, check this out, bro. You're not stepping right. You're not stepping right. I got to show you how to step. But, you know, he heard and seen a title. He was like false flagging.

Yeah. You're false flagging. Nigger, like, that ain't, that's not what we do. You're definitely here. So we're going to get to that part. But where we met was. Right, yeah. Well, Flago, again, I mind other folks' business for a little bit.

Right. That's my job. Somebody say gossiping isn't, you know, suitable for men. Right. I agree. I agree. But gossiping, right?

Gatty, patty is what I'm doing for a loop. I don't, that's why I believe how we met is how we met because you are more open and understanding. Like, and you made the, the comment and had the content, I ain't seen you. I ain't know you. You know what I'm saying? But I feel like I'll be able to run into this dude. You feel me?

I'm, I'm pretty sure I can run into Flaco. Whoever this flaco dude is, because he's very verbal about how he feels. Your civilians were upset at you now. Oh, yeah, some civilians, yes, civilians. Yes, civilians. Now why, okay, so my video on this was, was, yo, Roddy Rich don't, oh, no nigger, nothing. Roddy Riching got to give 50% of his 20 men to no nigger, get it on your own,

nigga. That was my approach to it. Right. Yeah, again, and like most of the villains who watched that clip was out here in your DMs as well. Yeah, oh, man, you, oh, you, don't chew nothing to Rattie, leave him alone. That's his money. I'm like, wait a minute. Oh, time out.

I didn't ask that man for no money. I've never tried to do any kind of extorting to that gentleman, that young dude. Again. Now, back it up, though. So, that room. Right. So, so you was in there talking to WAC 100. or to the bro?

Wack, yeah, I was talking to Wack. About Roddy. I was actually talking to another individual, but Wack chimed in because he knew Roddy and his mother. How did the room, like, come to be, like, how did the room start? So, I was talking to a, man, I can't remember this dude name, but I was talking to a dude on club. Person A, yeah. Yeah. He knew one of my, he knew someone that was from the community.

but because of some snitching, he ain't no longer from the community. So he ended up asking me like, hey, bro, you know such and such? And I'm like, yeah, I know, bro. You feel me? But I don't fuck with him because he's all bad. And he gets up out of here. So we talking and he ended up asking about another individual. And I'm like, nah, I don't fuck with bro because he fucked with them.

And they don't come around the community. He's like, what? I'm like, yeah, he's like, bro, I know who you are. You used to coach. I'm like, yeah, that's me. Coach Elle. He's like, dang, bro, that's crazy. How are you going clubhouse?

He's like, man, I'm for to make a room, bro. We're going to talk about it. That's how that happened. I'm like, all right back. Now, mind you, I didn't know nothing about no making no rooms, no none of that shit. You feel what you're doing to clubhouse. Baby. I was a, I was a, what you call a newborn.

I was a baby. Fresh out of the wound. Like, clubhouse. Here's. Hi. Like, for real. Like, I've been, listen, I've been, well, when to say, listen, man. Like, yo, I see street dudes on clubhouse.

gossiping like our aunties, man. Man, listen. Now when that dude says, yo, I'm gonna do this room, you probably don't, like, don't even know,

like the significant of what's about that. Did not know that. I did not know what doing the room was. I just like, okay, I didn't.

Like, you feel me like, doing it in there. So, here, so once you got into the room, you all was chatting up. It was chatting up,

yeah. And when did whack him in the room? I don't, I don't remember, but I just remember him asking me like, yeah, nephew,

uh, So, you know, Ronnie, and I'm like, Yeah, bro, supposed to be from the hood. Yeah, because I know him. I know his mama. He used to do my hair on 88th, May. He used to go to a performer North school. I'm like, damn, you know a lot about this thing.

We don't know. Me personally, I don't know nothing about him. I don't know him. Yeah. I've met him a few times, him being like in his, I want to say, 16, I want to say maybe 15, 16, 16, 17 year old. That's when I met him. And he was nothing like Clubhouse.

He was so, bro, was humble, respectful. Oh, man, I heard so much about you, big homie. I'm like, big homie, I don't even, you're not even good. Like, I'm trying to figure out. Did Trudeau that in the hood that like niggas call anybody with more money than I'm, big homie? Yes. Yeah, niggas do, niggas do that.

weird. That's weird. That's so weird. Why don't the traffic niggas do that? Because man, they look up to something. They look up to the they look up to the materialistic perspective of that. They don't even know how that person got that money. They just be like, oh yeah, big

homie, yeah, he got a bag, he got a nice car. His chain big. I know a lot of real dudes that are broke, that are real dudes and I know a lot of fake dudes with a lot of money. So all that, you got money

And like, your money is your say-so For me, you have no say-so. You don't have a say-so. Your say-so is so minute. I don't even see it. You know what I'm saying? So I don't respect that.

But for those who do, that's their cup of tea. No, that ain't me though. Now, why the room was going on, again, I can assume just knowing the clubhouse, I can assume this is how that room started. You know, he brought you in there. Oh, man, bro. Oh, listen, man, I got the exclusive in the shave room exclusive, bro. This is for the, right? I know that's how that conversation was starting off. So while he was

giving your point, Wack 100 came in. Now, when did it get introduced? Yo, I'm about to bring Roddy Rich in here. So, Wack was agreeing with everything. He was, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. You know, I'm sure, because that's how it happened. You know, I know, I know a lot of niggins that be doing fake shit like, that hell I did it. And I'm like, nigga, you did it. Like, oh, yes, this dude, he's a character. You feel me? So he's like, you know what? How you feel?

I can get nephew on the phone right now. I'm like, really? I said, damn. By him saying that, it like a light went off because I'm like, bro, I've been trying to holl at this dude and I'm just like,

if he do that, we'll get the point across. You feel me? Those clubhouse, listen, that clubhouse room owner was probably like, yo, dish if it's going to go up for us, right?

So, yeah. No, so Roddy was actually ducking your calls. Yeah. And then White being able to get him on the phone already had you. It felt a little bit like, yeah, it was like a coach up situation. Like, nah, let him talk nephew. Let nephew, no, he was like, let nephew talk.

You know what I'm saying? Y'all, be cool. You know what I'm saying? Don't yell at him, just let him be cool. So I'm thinking we fin to be mono, like, how many you talking? So he's like, so what's up? I'm like, what's up? Yeah.

See the title? I mean, what else you want to, what am I supposed to do? Shut up, bitch, ass, niggas, niggum. Would you want me, like, bless a bud vessel? Like, I'm just addressing an elephant in the room. It's a lot, you know what I'm saying? You're actually, like, super calm and cool. Yeah, bro, because when you extrad out, I don't believe that.

I believe you, you act when it's, you have to, it turns on when you need to turn on. Because at the end of the day, I'm in a room full of respectable individuals. There's no need for me to bring that type of energy in this room when everybody's in here is not, on that energy. Everybody's in here on whatever they own. I'm on what I'm on. We chat. Why it was animated.

Oh, man, when I say, you know what I'm there? Yo, what's your, like, yo, yo, what's what's your voice is you? Where did you realize

that you even, like, had that skill, bro? Oh, man, I want to say after listening to E40. E40. Favorite artist.

That's my favorite artist. Of all time. Of all time. I think he's so different. He's just so different. Yeah, unorthodox. It's like something, you'd be like, damn, ugh. And like, he'd do that. I've been telling niggas a long time. Like, what? Like, wait, hold on. Like, yo, I'm used to this because I like, like, hear you do this or clubhouse a lot, but people probably, yo, he got mad voices.

Right. And it's crazy because, like, hearing him and his unique way of delivering his rhymes, that caught my attention about rapping. So that led me into, like, um, using my voice as an instrument, like my producer would tell me, my friend, he would tell me, hey, man, use your voice, bro, you can sing, use your voice. And I'm like, damn, what the fuck you're talking about? I don't, until I caught on and repetitiously trying new things, trying to, like, different octaves, different characters with my voice. Let me say delivering it. Delivering my lyrics a certain way. And my team helped me do that, you know what I'm saying? Man, hair, right here. So, once Roddy came in, now, whack at this time, right?

And, you know, Wack at this time was on your side. Yeah, I was, that, and I was just like, okay, but it's Clevehouse. I don't, I'm not taking it like he's the homie. He's just, he's agreeing because I'm saying some real shit. It's true. It's true. There's nothing, you know what I'm saying? So he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, y'all know him and his mama used to do, his, his

mama used to do my girl hair and all that. And that ain't right. You shouldn't do stuff like, that's how, this is how whack talking. Yeah. But once, Roddy, once he got him on the phone, energy shift. And he took Roddy's side down. Of course. Why in the room?

Now, now Roddy's biggest attention was I ain't coming back to, too, too, too, like hug no blocks with no nigger. Now that I'm up 20 million. So, right? So what was your response to that? Because, to be real, man, like, they really didn't allow you to say nothing. Like, he was pretty much screaming. And then he just, like, left, right?

So what was your response to that comment? I'm up 20 million. Why do I got to come back and sit on, you know, and like sit on the block with niggas? First off, nobody asks him to come sit on the block. That was never a point of interest. The thing was is that stand on a truth. Do your, what you, what you,

I'm maybe going to say that. I'm going to say, you use the community you use the likeness of a lot of individuals the community itself the bloodshed the incarceration of innocent individuals free bone you know what I'm saying and you use that

and you came and you haven't stood on none of those principles and morals to showcase that okay look I did that let me help out the artist or the children let me do that you know what I'm saying and that hasn't been present like Kendrick Lamar Kendra Lamar goes to his community

not just Compton or Bonpton he goes to his community and do for his community okay that's not the city of Compton he goes to his community person Nipsey went to his community and did for his community

come to the community do for the community. You get what I'm saying? It's kids over there who know your lyrics and all that. They don't know you. It's, it's, I don't know you. Really? I know of you.

Yo, listen, back of the, right, because that was one of like the point of contentious was Roddy ain't from the hood. Right. Now, just break it down for us, right? When did you meet Roddy, when did, you know, like, how did Roddy get put on, et cetera, et cetera. Like, is Roddy from the hood?

He's growing up in the community. He did not grow up in the community. This was a business move. That's what it was. Like, when I first met him, his music was, it was just regular music, you know. It wasn't the music that you hear now. So when I met him, he actually came and told me in another individual, hey, I don't want to be a game member.

that's not me I don't want to do that I want to just be a rapper I said I said I respect you for that I respect you for saying that so do that so at the end of that

I'm thinking he took that and walked away with it I look up I hear people say oh yeah hell's a good business deal I'm like business like what's going on and then I'm standing on the boulevard I see a little situation and I'm like, what the hell is that?

I look up, right? He's getting in the car leaving, driving off. I look up, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, what the fuck? He's out of here, that. I'm like, what's going on here? I'm living my life. I'm handling business. I'm coaching.

I'm my daughter. I'm doing everything that I'm doing. I'm not focused on him. So when I'm seeing it and I'm like, I'm like, bro, this is going to backfire. this is not going to be good. At that time, though, so Roddy at that time was already a part of the brotherhood. No, he was a part of a family.

A family. A family, not the brotherhood itself. You had the family that he attached itself to get on Clubhouse and say, he don't know y'all, he only know us. That was a true statement. He doesn't know us. So he attached this to a particular family.

Yeah. So. Now, Roddy did say, though, that he knocked out two niggas in 40 seconds to get put on. Now, then Roddy knocked out two niggas. How did that happen? It was three seconds. Oh, wow. He knocked out two niggas in three seconds?

How'd that happen? Listen, man. Listen, bro. Listen. Listen, if Roddy being from the family and brotherhood, if you niggas taught him how to knock out three, you know, two niggins in three seconds, bruh, I got to be taught, man. Poetic, I'm going to need you to use common sense. This is such three dudes. One as big as me.

One maybe as big as you. Oh, it's three dudes. And you drop two. You knocked two of them out. What metaverse did this happen in? because I need to go there and get my squabble skills to perfect. I need Superman squabbles. Oh, man.

That is, you got to be, bro, who taught you? Mm-hmm. Like, you got to have Mike Tyson blood with Mayweather's defense to knock three dudes out to two dudes out in three seconds. You know, that didn't happen. That did not happen, bro. So, okay, so did like, what happened then? This is what happened. He went back there and his manager at the time told one of the young dudes,

hey, don't hit him in a face. He got interviews. I guess some little scruffle, it was over. Gentrified gangbinging. I mean, if they want to take that to take that, You can have that, man. But I didn't approve of that. And I still don't approve of it because it's like you still monetized a whole lifestyle.

And it wasn't just my lifestyle. It was others that are not here no more. You know, still in the community. It's youngsters in the community right now that are dope artists. And where are you? You know what I'm saying? Like your presence is not felt. You know what I'm saying?

Nella, after that, though, now, when you started to say, yo, listen, like, I got to holler at him. Like, because, you know, because you've seen him, you know, and then, like, he left and then you, let's start hearing, like, the hit records. At what point did you, like, figure out, yo, I got to holler at him? It's real deep. It's a, that's a deep situation. Free bone, you know what I'm saying?

that's part of the situation. So knowing that I was seeing it and I'm like, nah, man, dudes is allowing this to happen. They're using the likeness. We need to fix this. We got to fix this because it's a lot being involved in this. You get what I'm saying? And it just wasn't right.

So I'm like, you know what? I got to let me step up and holler at him and let him know, like, hey, man, it's a lot going on. You might just want to tap in and just let me holl at you so I can give you to school so you can have a conscious decision to understand like if you choose to keep doing this,

it's not going to be good because you're falsifying a lot of things you're saying on top of the people that you are attaching yourself to are not involving the community as a whole. You're doing that for that family.

You're not doing it for the community. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? We had a fallen, I had a fallen homie that just passed away, you know, R-P-C-2, you know. He was one of those dudes that could have been helped. You know what I'm saying? He could have been helped. And by me saying that, like, you convey with this man through via Instagram and phone,

dude had dope music. Could have reposted him, could have let him open up for shows, big shows, but you chose not to. This man lost his life on the thinking that y'all was going and that was never going to happen. And then your excuse was I don't come around because of this individual dying in the hood. He didn't even die in the hood. He died at a party somewhere in LA. We don't even.

You know what I'm saying? So it's like you use the death to justify you not coming around and then not being able to convey with people who have knowledge that you might need to know of. And you just said, fuck it. you bigger than the program. And I was like, nah, you ain't bigger than the program. You know, I had dudes trying to come, oh, man, leave it alone, trying to hush me up. But I'm not for sale.

I'm not for sale. I stand on truth. And me trying to reach out to him was just me showing him like, hey, bro, there's a way you do things, and you're not doing it right. Yeah. Here, so, like, there was also this, like, this, like, dispute about, did he really, like, bill somebody out,

did he put money on books? And he said, and he's been, doing that. And then I think you said something about, nah, but that's not true. Like, who was supposed to get it, didn't get it. So, again, free bone. Yeah, shout out the bone. Yeah, shout out the bone, man. You know, that man's story is going to be incredible. He's doing something for

a person from the community, but it's their family. Just like if you go back to the clubhouse and you listen to the replay, that family, that's who he's doing it for. When he should be doing it for someone who's innocent, Like, not saying, pro not innocent or nothing. But I'm saying this man, we, everybody know he's innocent.

Like, it's not like he went out here and committed a crime. And then he's rehabilitated by the system. And now we're like, oh, free to homie. No. This man is really innocent. Somebody constructed a lie. He's in jail. He's been in jail for two, like two decades.

Wow. And we need this brother to come home because he's innocent. It's sad that the correct. of the police, the injustice of what they do, added to a falsified statement, it doesn't help. And by this young individual knowing that this is going on, it's like, bro, the lawyer that you should be helping, like, help them out, bro. Like, you popping in. I made $20 million for the label. Like, okay, you did that.

We all know that you made, the label, we know the real, the gross in the network. We know that. Yeah. But don't pop it like that. And then it's, the community is still, you know what I'm saying? Like, they, they, you know, listen. It's self-explanatory. You know what I'm saying?

Like, I, no, listen, I definitely understand it, right? Now, after that incident happened, now, I've seen in, on Clubhouse, now here's the clip. No, was it on Clubhouse? I think it was, right? folks from your hood was on clubhouse taking Rottyside, I think

and you said That was part of that family Gotcha That it wasn't It was part of that family That was doing all the rhetoric And all that stuff Yeah

And then you actually like came into the room And said I'm gonna be Yeah I'm gonna be in like 10 minutes Yeah Energy shift And you really pulled up

Yeah I pulled up Now Why was it that important for you and say, you'll listen, like, again, like y'all are only on Clubhouse, but this narrative y'all pushing, I got to pull up and handle that. Because at the end of the day, this is my name. On top of that, this is the family doing this. You get what I'm saying? So, you're trying to say that I'm hating and all of this or whatever, whatever, because I didn't even, I didn't let it affect me.

I'm still standing on what I'm standing on. I'm standing on truth why others are standing in the booth. You feel what I'm saying? So it's like when them dudes did that, it was like, damn, so is this some real, are they telling the truth? No. I didn't fold for no money. I ain't, you can't pay me to say something. You can't, oh, I got you, I'm going to throw you some tickets or a sweatsuit and you can be cool.

And it's all, you can't do that to me. What can Roddy do though, like to, I guess right now since things like went left, what can Roddy do, I guess, to make it all right and win back over Yaya? It's not even about me. Yeah. It's never been about me. With the hood, yeah. It's about the community. The community, if you're going to monetize and make money off of the community, do for your community.

It's just that simple. You have artists. You have the children. You have a lot of things. Like, it's a lot of things you can do. It ain't about, it's not about me. I don't want nothing from you. I never asked nothing from you.

Again, I was on a hit record, scandalous with Wallace Sensei, feature Amar and myself. Millions of views. You get what I'm saying? Like, I don't need nothing from him. He needs to be real with himself and just be authentic with himself. This is the question that I have. This is my thing.

How you feed the street. and the hood never ate. And if you did, nigga, who prepared the plates? Can't be a big stepper if you wear a size eight. I'm, I'm O-T-G.

I'm really out the gates. You feel me? So it's like it's nothing you can do for me. But it's young minds over there, inspiring minds, it's artists over there, that you can do something for it.

But how can I can't I have to be honest with myself. I can't even expect them to do that because you can't really understand that struggle when you didn't come from it. Here so like if he right now says yo damn, yo, I was tripping, you know, starts coming back to the hood. Start, you know, start like repulsing different artists and start giving people's opportunities. Would that correct us wrong or like right now it's just all the way bad? Now, honestly, that'll help the ones that need that, you know what I'm saying, and salute to those who don't, if they do, you know, but it's just, it's not even, it's, you just, you use the community,

do what's right. And it's like, for those who accept whatever, that's on, you know, you've been, you made 20 million off the imagery and the lifestyle and likeness, not just my life of everybody who grew up over there, the real ones. Not the fake ones, the real ones that really stand on principle and morals and understanding, like, they still over there. Yeah. It's just so shadowed by so much fucketry. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

It just, it's too much of it. Yo, listen, facts, right? Even when, like, that situation happened. Yeah. Even how, like, the civilians and regular people reacted, in my mind, there's definitely a misconception of course. Of course. Of the brotherhood and gang gang gang. Okay.

What do you think that like misconception is, you know, when it comes to gangbanging, and why do you think that the audience reacted, you know, such an, like a, ugh, nigga, like you was nasty. Because they, they heard me address certain things and then they, the whole a million dollars, $20 million come to the hood for you. Like, they heard that. And they was like, dang, this dude, he's trying to get in Roddy's pockets. Again, I never asked him for that.

So when people that are outside of that hear that, that's the first thing they're going to think. He's trying to extort him. He's going to try to rob them. First off, let's, I'm make, I've never robbed none of my homies, never told on nobody, never turned no phase down, never had sex with none of my homeboys, women or woman. I've never did, I've never done those things. My name ain't got no smut on it. Like my boy rock stars say, smut free. Hashtag.

We smut free out here. We don't do that stuff because if you're part of the brotherhood, it's all good. We look out for each other like that. I have friends outside of gang life that don't gang bang that I'm real cool with. So it's not about the culture. People that didn't understand it, that's the first thing that they heard was, oh, this dude trying to store him. He won't money out of him. No.

Yeah. Far from it. Here. So like beyond Roddy, what do you think is the biggest misconception about gang banging? Because, again, because when I came here, I had, well, you know, a few, like, not viral moments, right, but semi-viral moments where I was speaking on, you know, like gaming and culture. Right. Now, what do you think is the biggest misconception, you know, just like beyond Roddy, just in general? That everybody got to be right-rah.

I, every, you know, when you from a community, you, there's roles. You know what I'm saying? When you from that community, when you really grew up in there, you know what I'm saying? And, you know, you got turned up dudes, you got dudes in the field, you got dudes to go to work, you got dudes to do music, you got, it's different levels and categories of being from the hood. So I think, I don't expect this person to be the type of person that I am. unless they willingly and voluntarily want to be the type of person that I was. And if you do choose that route, then you have people who will tell you like,

hey, man, like if you're going to do it, you're going to stand on your 10. You ain't going to get caught in those situations and then fold up because you're scared and you don't want to take no. Look, you was out there doing that crime. You go do that time. You get what I'm saying? So it's like, you learn how to stand on your two feet as a man. And you fuck up. Face some consequences. Don't coward out because you can't take the heat. Man, you fucking lit the fire.

You lit it. You stood in and it was like, oh, this shit tight. And now that the shit get tight, it's like, oh, I don't want, you know what I'm saying? So everybody isn't on the same mental. Like, everybody ain't doing the same thing. So I can respect somebody growing up in the hood and said, you know what? I don't want a game bank. I just want to do music.

Okay. Don't be talking about popping shit and you could talk about the experiences that you had. Like, damn, I've seen this. You know, I seen that? Remember, Mama, I used to on the crack. Wait, wait, wait. So, like, so, wait, so, like, if somebody, like, start rapping and say, yo, listen, man, I'm really from the trenches.

I seen six niggas get shot last week. I spent a block. No, sorry, I see niggas spin blocks. Now, can somebody rap like that? saying, you know, I see. And they've never lived that life? Well, they're saying, I seen. Yeah, that, that's, that's the thing though, poetic.

You can, you can see a lot. Don't put, look, you can see a lot. Just don't identify the people of what you, who are you talking about. Don't be telling me, yeah, yeah, I seen the homie, the homie D sell drugs to the homie J and Jets. Like, you don't want to put people just the experience of it all. Like, yeah, I seen crack heads. Yeah.

Something, something for the stick. I seen, uh-uh. Left home forgot the stick. I seen this, that. And the whole other other is crazy how black men is just killing one another. You feel me? You got to, you got to really understand that. Wait, hold up now.

Was it, was that a freestyle? Yeah, I do that, man. Come on now. Ain't no way, man. I do that. I do that, man. I do this. I really, I really do that.

Yo, if after this interview, if I look in Yael's iPhone, notepad. You telling me I ain't going to see that bar? No. I can pull it out right now. I'll show you right now. I mean, like I really like I really freestyle meaning like my life has had so many different experience and it's not no crazier than the next person, the person who didn't have a parent growing up or a person who grew up in a foster home. My life is probably not even as as crazy as theirs. But I had an experience. I had a life before this life. Incompet. In Compton. I never live nowhere else. All I know is Compton. You break it down. What's it like, again, you know, me and AD had this like discrepancy

where I seen like Google Maps images of Compton. It was like nothing but like Manson much nicer than where I grew up. Why do he keep saying man? Right? Right. Hey, me. But then AD told me, yo, it ain't sweet. Nah, because he, like my, my boy was telling you. It ain't, it's really, it's like this. It's like this, bro. East side, west side of Compton. You got, like if you put in Google Maps, right, and you see the west side of Compton, you might see the Bloods or the Damu side.

And it might look nice over there. Man, that shit ain't sweet over there. At all. And then you might look on the east side of Compton. You might see a decent-looking community. It ain't sweet over there. So you really want to lose-lose-in if you don't know that community

and you go over there on some bullshit or you move over there thinking it's sweet. And you're looking like something, they're going to look at you like something. You feel me? Now, in Compton, when did you start getting in the mix? I was young, man. I was like 12 years old.

12 years old? 12. How do you come around at 12 years old? Aren't they like, niggit? Leave, you. You want to know something? I grew up with a lot of women in my family. It's more women than like immediate, like my sisters and brothers.

So like I didn't want to get caught up with, I don't know. Like I just felt like I needed to be around young brothers. You feel me? Like I had my dad, you know what I'm saying? He tried his best to, you know, football and shit like that. Oh wait, so Pops was not in the mix. Pop was like this. Now, Pops did his thing, but he wasn't, he wasn't a game member.

Gotcha. Pops wasn't a game member. I was young, you know what I'm saying, trying to find myself. No big brother. I'm going to school. I'm around all the game-mangers, you feel me? And it was crazy because the dudes that I hung around in middle school, still my boys to this day. And those were the dudes that

showed me that brotherhood. Like, I would go to school not having lunch money sometimes. And my boy, his name, Chooey, he'll be like, hey, man, I got you. Like, come over here, I got you. Man, that's real. Like, you hungry? That's real. You want to go, like, man, we go to my granny house.

She'll cook and all that. I'm like, dang, like, bro, acting like a real homie. So I gravitated to that love. I gravitated to the love that was showing me at a young age. So when I got put on, it was like, shit. I already lived in the projects. So it wasn't like I was new to it.

Now, at 12 years old, how do that work? Like, do a bunch of 30-year-old, not a bunch of 30-year-old, you know, how'd you work? It was dudes my age. Wow. It was dudes my age, and we was, when I say we were squabbling, funny part, they put me on at school.

I had to go to the hood and get put on again, so I actually got put on twice. Yo. I actually got put on two times. So that's why I take the representation and people floss, you want to call it false flag and you want to call it perpetrating. I take it serious because I really come from that. I really, you know what I'm saying?

I really lived it. I really have fallen friends, dead homies. I really have those. You know what I'm saying? So it hit me different when I hear certain things being said. in. The world is like, oh, man, this dude, I was like, not. I could forgive those people for saying that. You know why? Because I forgave you, and they didn't understand. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Especially in Alato, there are a lot of celebrities and rappers who became rich,

made millions, and then resorted back to joining. I don't understand that. Now, I don't. Well, how do you get put on as a multimedia? Can be being jumped, right? Can you pay your way? into it? Some people do it. Some, they're doing it now. You got our out of now. I'm, the only thing I can prove is what I can prove. But I've been hearing a lot of that going on. And it's like, that's sad, man, because it's like you exploiting people struggle. You exploiting the struggle. They make movies off of our struggle. Do those communities get reprimanded for that? No. They just be like, oh, they shot the movie over there on that house. Oh, they was over there there money. Yeah, they shot the, what the fuck is that?

Why, okay, you didn't made all this money off of this community. Go back to that community. Absolutely. You get what I'm saying? Go back over there and I'm not talking about on holidays. It's 365 days in the year. It's starving kids over there every day. It's mothers over there, mourning children need bills paid.

Like, they need real help. You get what I'm saying? And y'all have made multi-million dollars. These movies be on reruns all day. And it's like, dude, ain't nobody asking y'all for nothing but to just help the community I've seen the wildest video a few years ago. So Soldier Boy went on live. Oh, my God.

Who says Soldier ain't from the hood? In the middle of the hood. Now, I'm not, I'm not from over there. Yeah. No. That's on them. Hey, man. Yo, but that was the widest thing.

And here's why that was wild to me. Yeah, this man's a multimillionaire. And he felt as if because there were people online coming and saying things, again, just in the comment sections, in them, you know, like YouTube videos, saying, yo, he's not from the hood. Yo, he's not blah, blah. And he felt as if he had to prove that to people. That was wild to me.

Well, he did because it's like nobody believes you have to. Nobody's saying go out here and kill 20 people. But when you come from a struggle where you know that there's mouths of feed, there's deaths happening, people need help. It's not about just shoot them up bang, bang. You know what I'm saying? And, you know, if you got a family member who sold drugs to feed their family, okay, that's on them.

They fed their family, that's what they was doing for. But when you got dudes out here selling drugs just to buy new designer and hang around other grown men, something wrong with you. Something is definitely wrong with you. The real authentic ones, though, like, for example, like you, yo, like you got your voices, you be singing, you know, right? From my experience, the real authentic ones are you the ones who are, like, you know, who are funny, got personalities,

and the ones who are pretending to be the real nigga. What you say to me? Got real hard, stone cold, got the, you know, but carrying 40 glocks on them? Look, these men know me. They know me. For real, you feel what I'm saying? And it's like, I can't be fake.

Even if I try, because they're going, they're going to call me out on them. And I'm like, hey, hey, hey, now you know. Dinkin-a-wallet. That ain't true. Mm-hmm. You feel what I'm saying? Absolutely.

But it's like, like you said, the authentic ones, bro, I have a whole mural in my community. Speak on that. You got a mural. A mural. And not just me. It's other individuals who played a part into inspiring the youth and other artists to be who are today. And that's in Compton, right?

That is in my community. Wow. My face immortalized forever. Wow. Uh-oh. No, I was planning. But I'm just saying it's just. Wait, though.

Unless the ops spin back and spray paint over that portion. Listen, listen, listen. Listen. They're not cuckoo for cocoa puffs. They ain't smoking crystal meth. They ain't that. Niggas, no, they ain't that. I just a paid ass niggas watching and is thinking, oh, yeah, you know, that's not.

But it's the, it's the thing. You know, that shows you. the importance of the role and the imagery of what you play in your community. I've coached you, I've coached the youth. Hell, Caitlin for real, for real, was just on here. I coached him. Yeah, he's dope. Yes, dope artist. Didn't even know he was going to do music when he left football.

And I coached him. You know, it's crazy too. And here's why he's dope. I found out about him on the shade room before I even knew he was a rapper. Right? So like, apparently there were like females and women. Yeah. Matt has held that and he posted like a female, right?

Wait, wait, wait. What female was this? I'm not even sure, right, but like, and he posted, you know, a picture of him and a female. And his female fans was out here wilding out and right. Man, listen, you listen, you know. You selling an image. Uh-huh. You selling an image.

You better let them women like you. Oh, man. Like, I think personal life is personal life. Yeah. and when you are a public figure like himself and any other like an usher or trace on any that dudes that type of music the image of what you it's just like it's just like stripping like the strippers they selling you a fantasy so of course you see a dude go in the club throwing money at the girl that you throw money at you're gonna feel some talk about

man it's my chick I'll throw money at you know what I'm saying like you don't want to upset their fans bro like man like let your personal be personal that's just you can do what you want to do. I don't care. No, listen, he's definitely dope, man. Now, what you want to do, you know? Here, so growing up in the mix now, yeah. When did you say, yo, I'm fitting to start this, you know, just like music career?

No, listen. And you started off as an R&B artist. Well, it was an intertwine of both. It was a mixture of both. Yeah. I was, what you would call, I was rapping, I was singing, but I was kind of like rapy, singy. it wasn't full-fledged all the way my team TDMG shout out to the district music group they helped mold

my sound the cell you know what I'm saying like so when I actually start taking it seriously it was like damn bro you really they believed in me they believed in my talent they believed in my voice they believed in my my writing my pen I didn't have so many opportunities working with them paid opportunities you know what I'm saying so like they helped me and It was like, damn, bro, like, I really can do something great with my talent. Let me take it serious. And I know, you know, you got to get out here and support yourself. You got to get out here and do what you got to do.

So, you know, I started taking it serious. I was like, bro, let me get into studio and make some songs. And I'm here. So you actually started off, you started making music and then you linked up with your cousin and started a group. Well, that was, man, that was so many years ago. That was a while ago. That was. Yeah.

Man, long time ago. But a group, though. It was a group. Yeah, it was like a boy band or like, nah, it was some. They're actually rapper. This digger's, no, it was actually, Bird was the Jay Bird.

He was the rapper and manager over the group. It was Jay Bird, myself, my cousin, my boy jig, and if you know, Trap Kitchen, he's a cook. That was our beat maker. Actual chef? Yeah, he's a chef. Who makes beats? Who makes beats?

Yes. Yo, listen, yo. I got to get that, nigga, man. The hood is, you'll find the crazy and the most unique people in the hood, man. I'm telling you, it's so much talent in the hood, man. Here, here. So, like, you guys actually got a situation with Universal

and that didn't work out. So, like, what happened? Everybody just had different things going on. It was some behind-the-scenes stuff, and I really not too privy on. Privy on. We didn't, it didn't work out. us. Now, once you're a breakup, first of all, what was that like realization, you know, this

shit ain't going to work like we've done? Priorities, mindset, not being educated in the business. You know what I'm saying? Not knowing how to conduct business. It's about, you got to know the business. You know what I'm saying? At least get somebody around that understands the business. And whatever, whatever case that was at that time, it just didn't work out. Would you ever consider signing to a record label in 2022? I'm open. Like the deal got to be right. Like I don't have nothing against deals.

It's just the type of deal that you get. You get what I'm saying? Like, you hear a lot about 360s. Like, I'm pretty sure there are some great people at all of these labels. Right? I'm pretty sure there are. Don't think that now. But no, listen, you got to go through it.

And then you might land with a person who would be like, you know what? Nah, we can get you this. We can get you that. It just depends. I don't know. I can't speak ill on somebody I don't know. Like I'm all for all the artists who are underground, who's independent, salute to those dudes working hard if they craft and not giving up when somebody told them to

or a label, you know, turning them down. And they like, damn, the label turned me down. No, that just probably wasn't a label for you. There might be a label out there who, I don't know, if your business is right. And then they come with, I mean, it could work for you. I don't know. So, you know, hypothetical. Here, so like, you know, as a veteran, right?

Like, exactly how do these record labels take advantage? Like, how is it so, like, so easy? Isn't it just like them just taking kids from the hood who, you know, don't really know, no better, don't really got a representation, and, you know, they just fuck them over? It could be innumerous of things. How is it that easy, though? Because some people just, some people are, they see the glitter and glamour before the hard work, and then they don't really read the black and white. They don't get lawyers involved. They don't get the paperwork looked over.

That's what I ended up having to do. I had to go get paperwork looked over to make sure I was getting the best situation for me. And when I found that that black and white wasn't right, oh yeah, I got to push that to the side. You feel me? I'm not. Man, yo, like being a vet in this game, man, like you must be looking at these new contracts, these little niggins is getting like $60 million for a young boy? That's.

Like, come, bro. Back then, bro, like... It got to be deeper than that. Young boy is talented. Mm-hmm. But I heard he was eating off the YouTube, so it's like... And you don't think, though, that he got signed for $60 million or... I don't know.

He got signed for $60 million. K.K., did he get signed for $60 million? Oh, he got signed for $60 million. I mean, because I don't know. Well, you know, there were some disputes recently. Yeah, I mean... I think his manager said, you know, that... I know Wack got on there was like,

You got him. He got him. Hey, poetic, I got you. Like, you know, he wanted, he wanted include itself in all the business and telling, like, nigga, did he get, come on, bro, we don't need you lying. Like, let the,

we found out he's signed for $60 million, so he signed for $60 million. You're $60 million, man. You know, if deals like that were available back then, these dudes probably would have owned, like, your souls, man. Poetic.

I remember when, when you had 10, 20, 30,000, views and you was the dude. You was it. Like, in other countries, to have that many views in those countries, you're like famous out there. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, some of these artists get that machine and, you know, they win.

Yo, people are faking a funk in 2020. Fake. I was about YouTube. Bro, yo, yo, you listen. You, listen, like, it got so cold. Silicon. I know that these dudes could, like, bro, they could buy fake clubhouse followers now, bro. Clubhouse followers, like the active rooms too you can buy, like, for example, you can like

buy some shit to where like 100 people can be in a room. Because you can monetize a room, right? Or clubhouse? Yeah. Oh, I don't know. Can you monetize the room on clubhouse? Nah, I don't think so. Monetizing the room on clubhouse?

No. So you can't make money off a clubhouse? No, like, for example, if somebody like an independent business, like, you know, like, for example, if K makes music in case of you'll listen, can you please pin my link and in your room and I'm going to pay you some money. Yes, but like clubhouse don't want. Oh, yeah, I mean, of course. Oh, yeah, because they'd be having cash at rooms

and play your money, I mean, play your music Thursdays and give us $100 and we'll skip. Like, bro, that is a cold. I ain't even going to say that. I was going to say a cold scam, but I don't, I haven't heard anybody making it off of Clubhouse due to. Bro, listen.

To doing that. To doing that. I don't know, though. Listen, and it's why I don't understand why people take Clubhouse seriously. Because right now, listen, like Clubhouse interface. It's 10 million users. And we all know half of that is probably like, it's two, three accounts by like one person who's consistently getting banned.

Right. That shit's crazy. The band didn't and all that. But to piggyback off what you said, people take it serious because some people don't got no life. And they wake up and just get on Clubhouse. Shit, I thought Wack didn't have no life. That ain't be on there.

24-7. He'd be out. Yeah, man there, though, you know. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe I don't know. But you can meet real people off a clubhouse. It's just what is your motive getting on there? If you just on there to have a clubhouse relationship, you're going to

be on there looking like a goofball. Yo, I wish your stance on street dudes, common old clubhouse, having paperwork party, and gossiping. The gossiping thing, I ain't with the gossiping, but it's like this. The paper party. You got dudes hiding.

Niggas be hiding. I feel that you should have a right to know who you're hanging with. But on clubhouse though? If it happens on clubhouse, it happens on clubhouse. Well, I mean, this dude on clubhouse saying he's a big dude and he in everybody room telling everybody he's a super gangster and all that and then somebody get on there and know you and be like, hey, bro, I know you.

You ain't like that. Matter of fact, you was a rat. You was a snitch. I don't know snitch. I got the paperwork right here. Matter of fact, PTR. You feel and they showed the paper. It is what it is. I just feel like that, that's okay. But just going, you know, Tunisia fucking with Jonathan because,

you know, she broke up with Matthew, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, you know, she fucking on this. Like, that's the gossip and shit

that I'll be like, I don't give a fuck about that. But for me, if I'm on Clubhouse, I'm in a room and we're having a real conversation, like the title is something deep. And some dude come up in there

and saying, like, yeah, I'm, I'm mootoo, and I know the politics because I did X, Y, Z, And I'm ABC right here, you feel me? And then somebody come in the room like, hey, man, I know you in real life.

You ain't built like that. You don't even move like that. Well, so like the first part of that is what I'm against. Well, again, I don't even what I'm against because, again, I don't have like any like eggs in that fight, right? I'm not a street nigga, right? But when I see that, I'm like, yo, I remember the days, bro, especially like as a kid growing up and just watching the TV. Yo, street dudes in like the early 2000s back then, bro, they were like coy, sly, very soft. No, but I saw spoken about like very calm, right?

You know, knew how to maneuver. Like, these niggas in 2022 that I've been with us in? These niggas is chatty-patti. These niggas is arguing cussing out. I made in a crime zone clubhouse. Well, okay, let me say this. There's a difference between a street dude and a game member to me. Because I say this because game members are, they from hoods or whatever.

Street dudes, they just be, you got certain dudes who just sell drugs. They sell drugs. They scam. But they be in the streets. Street dude. Game member is game member. Game member. Different type of,

but game members be in the streets. So it's like the street dudes, a lot of them don't game bang. They just be in the streets. So you got some street dudes who be out here keeping this solid that don't be snitching, that don't be doing no weird shit, you feel me?

And you got game members who do the same thing. Yeah. You feel me? So I think there's a, there's a divide like for me that's how I view it I don't view street dudes as game members because a non-affiliate can be a street dude he could be a dude that be all in the parties with the burner on him protecting himself and the niggas that he came with whether they're gaming or not they might be scamming they might sell drugs who knows but he's a street dude because

he'd be out there in the streets moving around yeah but game members are game members when they when a when a game member go to a party he got to make sure his ops not out there street dudes we have ops too, but the game members know like, oh, Woo-T-W from Woo-Ti-Woo over in there. Like, I'm a crib. I can't go to this party because I know these crypts might be in a party that I don't get along with, or these bloods might be in a party. You feel me? So, like, that's just me. Growing up in, you know, growing up in that, that's the understanding that I got growing up that street dudes really do this, but yet they hang with game members and game members are who they are. Now, speaking of street dudes and convicts, you

used to write for the mildness behavior. Yeah, I did a little writing for them. But I didn't, and nothing never got because they broke up. Yeah, they broke up. Man. But I always remember the opportunity because I take every experience like, damn, I was close. Maybe I can get closer. Let me keep, let me stay focused.

Let me stay at it. And then I looked up. I was writing with Wally the Sensei, we on the radio. Yes. Yes. Listen, because the universal shit ain't worked out. Mildous behavior ain't, you know, like, you know, and they ain't work out. And then after that, I guess like how long, okay, so how long after was Mons Beaver

did you meet up with Wally? I want to say I met up with Wally in 2000 and, I'll say, 2020, 21. Yeah, about 2020, 2021. Yeah. Yeah. And then you guys created a song that's part of my personal playlist. Appreciate that, man. I love that song.

I appreciate that, man. Now, but I'd be feeling like a fraud singing that song because. I got bitches trying to kill me for some shit that I forgot I'd done. I never had no niggas or bitches trying to kill me for some shit. I'll say maybe the reason why you like that song is maybe it's warning you. Don't be out here. Doing dirt. Doing nothing to no female that you ain't got no business.

And don't be starting it with no dudes, you know, you ain't ready to go. Like, sometimes songs can be warnings and we like it because it makes us feel. Music makes you feel a certain way. You know, I got a song getting ready to drop call section featuring Joe Moses and the coyotes. Childs of Joe Moses and the coyotes for coming through and blessing me with the record. That record

with the video. The video is basically showing everyday people whether you from the hood or you could be regular, from different sides of the spectrum, from different sides of the rag, red and blue and neutral. Hey, it don't matter.

Just being you and being who you are and standing on what you believe in, that should make you want to be you and not be nobody else. So that record is, it's going to drop soon as cost section. And that is just basically shedding light on being original, being authentic. You get what I'm saying? So I can, I can appreciate somebody like yourself, liking a record like that, you know? You know, absolutely, man. Now, that record, first of all, how did that record even come to be? How did you link up with Wally and Sesey? I link that with Wally through a mutual individual

that we know and he I met him he was coming around my community a lot and he told him he was like hey yeah

that's the homie L he'd do music he'd be writing and stuff L dog L dog yeah you know what I'm saying Living daily on a gangsters grind

I can show you how a gangster grind but if I do I might know like Oh no no no but no

he was like yeah that's the homie man he'd be doing music and shit y'all should you'll hook up so we hooked up while he kind of had like a struck like some kind of a hook and mar had to beat and he was

like bro we need to get in the studio so i called my engineer my friend vick shout out to tdmg again and um yeah man we got in there he helped we created it and now you have a west coast classic man yeah that right there is definitely a classic man now i'll probably put that so now like i'd be going back and forth like because to me wali got two west coast classics he he got a banker. He got another, that's another bangor. I like, he got a car. O3 Grito is the-O-3-Flo. Yeah, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Routherst, right? You know, and, like, that's where he pays homage to O3-Grito. Yeah, salute, man. Salute to that dude, man. Right? Like, so when I heard that, that's also another classic of his, man, but yeah, bro,

that's definitely a classic record, man. Right. Now, after that record, though, right? Right. Yo, I really, like, I, you know, again, like, you've been trying to, like, drop the mixtape. Yeah, I got a mixtape called Blue Flame Crip on Fire. Yeah. Yeah. I've been waiting for that shit like what, like, what, it was, I had a situation to where my daughter, so I had to really put my priorities together.

Mm-hmm. And she comes first. And it's deep. So, like, dealing with that. my team was like, look, we need to, you need to focus on that. And we're going to, we're going to get to it. It's created. And we're, you know, we're going to get to it and drop it.

I know, I know the people are expecting, they're expecting that and they're waiting for that. And I want to give them what they want, you know. Of course. Yeah, listen to what your sound, man. Well, first off, I'm a say this. And I do want to apologize, right? So when I first like heard

heard like in your music I'm like yo this shit is different from what I was expected because I was expecting the mathematical, systematical, eminthetical hypothetical, right? I was expecting some real bars, you know what I? It was real bars but it was

melodic. Right. And then I'm like hold up now but like this ain't the traditional LA sound this man trying to copy Roddy. I didn't know. Hold up now bro. Like yo Roddy got Roddy got his sound from Yael right that

that Yail was the one who actually pioneered that like that sound Roddy just came through and just capitalized off that so do you like do you ever feel like damn you know

these niggas is like buzzing and popping off you know like or like going mainstream before me and they're just running with my sound sound right so by the time that I come through the door niggas going to compare me to Roddy I you know

I'm actually, I was flattered. I was flattered. I was like, I was like, damn, you took my style. Jacking it all. Like some jacking for beats type of shit. You feel me? Because when I created that sound, management at the time was like, nah, we're not going to do that.

And I'm like, in my mind, I'm conveying with my team. I'm like, hey, man, well, it's hard. Should we do that? He's like, yeah, we should do that. But because he was like helping fund the project, I was like, all right, I was, you know. and once the deal wasn't right, the paperwork wasn't right, and I fell back from the situation,

I looked up, Roddy was, he was sounding like me. I'm like, damn, it sounds like my son. You feel me? I was,

what's going on? Like, what's going on? Like, this dude sound like me. You feel me? Yeah. So, and I'm like, dang, bro.

But, like, it hit me different in a way, too, because I was like, damn, I'm not talented that somebody got to really use my style. Yeah.

You ever thought, Yo, man. I'm like, damn, you know? Yo, man, I need that 20%. No, man. No, man, I don't need nothing from that kid, man. He just needs to be him, you know. I've seen a dude sue Drake

because, like, apparently, like, the same cadence he used on one of his songs, and he said that Drake and Chris Brown no guidance, that they're so reminding in there, and he's suing them for millions. So, like, you did have that option. So why did you choose not to go down that path. Well, like, I don't, I didn't know the business. I had got a lawyer to help, you know,

look over some paperwork because I just felt that was the right thing to do. You know what I'm saying? And in that paperwork, it said your image, your likeness, your thoughts, your imagination, et cetera, we own it. Oh, no, no, no, sorry. And not that. I'm saying, saying, and you had the option of Sue Roddy. Right. Why did you? Why did I did? I did. I did. I did. I, sorry. Uh, and not that. I did. I, I, I don't. I. I. I mean, I didn't think that that was, I don't know, I just didn't think, I wasn't thinking like that. I didn't think like that. You know what I'm saying? You are a much better man than niggas like me.

Man, I had a dude use, I had, I had, I had a do use one of my records called Weekend, Weekend, Weekend freak. Y'all, people might know it now as weekend lover. Okay, what's that? By Jamie Foxx. Jamie Fox. Yeah. You wrote for Jamie or he just like Jackie. What it was, what it was, we had a, it was a mutual writer that introduced me.

and we would sit in the studio at Underdog on 4th Street in downtown Hollywood. So we were down there and I had a song called Weekend Freak. You know what I'm saying? And I'm singing the song. I'm like, oh, my girl don't suspect me achieving. It's Thursday getting real close to the weekend. Oh, my producer was like, hey, that's kind of dope.

Like I let old boy hear it. He was like, oh, yeah, do that again. And I'm recording a song with him. I look up, he didn't construct it to song different. Gave it to Jamie as called Weekend Lover. I'm like, damn. But again, I didn't know the business. I didn't know that that was me that influenced that record.

You know, and then getting older and knowing that you can be in the studio with somebody and you, now I say it like this, word it like that, you get paid for that. Yeah, yeah. That's a creative thought process that you implicated and that person used it and plateaued. They may go platinum. off of you saying change, change hater. Hey, you feel me? How did kiss that bitch and what I?

Yo, your young thug impression is crazy. Oh, man. No, bro, it's actually insane, like how great, like you do like young thug. Now, everybody else is good, but the young thug impression we're doing is absolutely. Nah, it was crazy because he was in the club out here

and he was at a club and crazy girls, the strip club. And I see him talking to one of my homeboys. about bottle services. He was like, yeah, I'll get, let me get, get a 20 bottles. Yo, his voice is down. I was like, what the? I was like, wait. It's crazy because he's like a high voice guy, but he's really about it. Like, that's insane to me. You feel me? Yeah, they say he's a dude from his city, man. If you're a real one, you, he's a real one in the city.

He's real one. That's what they say. I don't know. So I can't, you know, I can't dispute it. Yo, here, right? So a question for you, man. So when it comes to like the whole, like the LA sound. Now, here's my theory as to why the LA sound hasn't gone, I guess, major again, right? When I say LA sound, you know, again, I don't want to call out any, you know, like individual artists, but, you know,

like the uptempo L.A. sound, you know, like the, you know, niggas, I'm like, churn, churn, turn, like that sound. But the sound that's like gone really, really, really, really mainstream, would be guys like Kendrick, Roddy, Blass, et cetera, et cetera. But those guys don't sound like LA artists.

Well, again, they've created this character using that their voice. Like, they've created a different character. The voice and then the sound of it's like, dang, like I've never heard that before. It's not the typical LA sound. Why do you think that, though? Stepping outside the box. depending on what artist you're talking about though no right so so why do you think the LA sound

don't take off as much as you know like those those other sounds I want maybe I don't know for me it's the sound it's it's being creative with your voice for me yeah and I think people gravitate to things that are different and new to them

Like, you know, I heard certain artists like, it's a dude, I think he's from LA. He's called ASM Bobster. He got a unique sound. Okay. KK. And Rockstar had him in a room, another rapper. What's that dude name? You know his name?

The rapper that, hit him out, tend him out, he rap like that? Oh, Sada baby. Not a Sada baby. But he's different too, but we're talking about LA artists. Oh, no, no, no. Boot it up. Yeah, girls, Zoot it up. Zoosama.

That sounds different. Okay. It's different. Zohama. It's different. I've heard of him. It's different. The Blue Blugs clan to me.

I like them. They're different. You hear what I'm saying? But I don't know. It's like, yo. I don't know, man. Yo, speaking of L.A., you were really concerned about my safety, man.

Yeah, man, because, like, yo, when the whole, you feel, me, you know, thing, you know, with the Spanish community. Correct. When that happened, I think Yaya was the first one to, like, call me like, yo, nigger, like, is you good? Like, what's going on, right? Right. Now, one, you know, what's your, like, take on, I guess, like, the, like, the relationship. in LA between both sides. Like, you know, what's the history of that?

Today is integrated. Yeah. But before that, it wasn't always like that. Man. It wasn't always like, it was like we couldn't go to their houses. You couldn't date their sisters. You know what I'm saying? It was like that.

Wow. How do things get that bad? Just, I think just being from the culture, that we grew up in, like, and then them having a certain culture of them coming to our environment and our culture and adapting to that, I think, you know, we were, we was pushed in this, like our people were pushed in a certain position for survival, you know, and not taking nothing from nobody else's struggle, but, you know, when you come from a foreign place and then you come here, it's like, damn, what the fuck, this is a different world. You know what I'm

saying? And people don't accept it because they don't understand it, you know, and then, As they lived in the community for years, they started to see like, oh, this is really, this is really serious. Like these people really have hardships and they live in the hardships with us. So you know, as years go by and time change, you got people having relationships with them,

having babies with them, and then relationships are built, friendships are built, going to school together. You get what I'm saying? Yeah, of course. And it's just, now it's, It's different now. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. You know, and that was the first time that I like, again, man, like, I'm so, like, oblivious to a lot of things. But that was the first time that I realized, yo, people are on eggshells. And, like, people are somewhat, you know, like, not afraid, but cautious, yo, that shit could go, you know. Right? It's, like, it's not just us, but shit could go, like, where it's, you know, it becomes a, you know,

like an actual situation now where both sides are going at it. And I even know that, man. So like one, what are like some ways, especially for somebody like myself who's, you know, like who's new here, you know, and who's new to media, how can, you know, again, like my plan wasn't to start a start a race war, but, you know, how do I quote unquote avoid, you know, like starting that or even like walking that line? And stay out of them politics. You've been worn.

Yeah. You've been worn by KK. You was worn by Rockstar. My first week. Myself. Yeah. So, yeah, that's a real statement. Like, you know, they have their politics.

Yeah. And we have our politics. So when I was concerned, I was like, damn, it was just me. It was the brothers. They was concerned, too. Yeah. I was concerned because I'm like, my thought process was like, bro, don't know what the fuck going on.

So people was like, oh, block of, block oh, messy, this, this, that. First off, let's slow down. Let's just take in consideration. Dude is from a whole other place that probably doesn't go through this type of situation. Now, I'm not saying anything in the racism where you come from. But this is a different politic over here. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

So it's like, you didn't know. And so again, we got to use our minds and say, bro coming from a place where he didn't know. And I'm just looking. I feel like I'm being an older brother because I don't have older brothers. Yeah. You get what I'm saying? I am the older brother. So I'm like, on some big bro shit like, hey, no, Flaco is you straight?

Yeah. And my thought was like, let us handle flaco. Yeah. You guys handle your people. Let us handle ours and let's school him and educate him. That's what that was about. It wasn't like, oh, dang. No, it's let us handle ours.

Y'all handle y'all because at the end of the day you didn't know. And I'm glad that it turned out. good for you. I mean, definitely. You know what I'm saying? But that's just the understanding that you should have now is like, just stay out there politics because at the end of the day, it has nothing to do with you, bro.

Of course, definitely. You feel me? And, you know, I fuck with you. A lot of us fuck with you because we know you didn't know no better. But you know better now. Of course, man. So, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?

You know, we did. Right? Yeah. Listen, absolutely. Now, speaking of L.A., So shout out to Nipsey, he just got his star. Oh, yeah. Salute to his whole team and family for that.

Yeah. Now, there were some, you know, some conversations being had about rather than that he deserved it or not. But we won't even touch on that. Yeah. Yeah. Now, if Yaya was in charge of the Hollywood Walk of Fame and Who Get Stars, who will be the next artist on your list? Other than E40, right? Oh, man, man.

Other than E40 to get a star. Artists? Well, artists. Or anybody. Anybody. Entertainer, right? Because we, yeah. Just anybody in the entertainment?

Yeah. Wow. The body of work, the involvement in. I look at a lot of things. Or look, I'm going to give you three names, right? And let's tell me Let's narrow it Let's see what you come up with

Because I'm curious to see what LA You tell me who's more deserving Let's do the game Chris Brown And then we can probably do And then we can probably do Who's a In fact, all right

The game Chris Brown And let's do And let's do And let's do I know he would say something so bad. Too short. So the game, Chris Brown and two short. Is he serious right now?

What? I don't know. So the game Chris Brown and too short, who should get one? Again, and if you're saying, saying, fucking bullshit, if you're saying nobody should, hey, bro, and fucking break it down, why nobody should get one. But yeah, out of those three, should they get one? Sorry, out of those three, who should get one? And if nobody, explain why.

Chris Brown The game And too short And too short Oh my fucking God These three gentlemen Are all creative And they're selective talents

Yes sir They're very talented Individuals Um Mm Mm Game Chris Brown

And too short Oh my gosh Bitch Shake that monkey I don't know I'm just I'm reciting lyrics Nah

I'm thinking You have one person Who clearly had the most most successful career. It's Chris Brown. That's Chris Brown. He has the most successful career.

So if we're going to base it off, I mean, if we were basing it off of that? No, based off of you. You got all the power. Who is Jail going to pick? I got all the power to be like, yeah, they're going to. Yeah, yeah?

Or none of them get it. A walk on the Hollywood walker fan. I don't have to pull a, oh man. Nobody gets it. No. Come on. just pick one.

And come on now. And who's getting it? You said who? Chris Brown. That's crazy. That, you're fucking, you're psychic. I was thinking Chris Brown. I was thinking him.

The reason why I was thinking Chris Brown because he's the next to Michael. You crazy. You was out of your mind. Dancing, creativity. Out of your mind. Chris Brown, the next to Michael? How? And his generation.

No, no, no, no. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Flaco. And here's why it's a no for me. Chris Brunge just sold 70,000 copies first week. Now, if we're saying his talent-wise, he's the next to Michael, I could probably say talent-wise. But again, though, there's a lot of other niggas here who can dance and sing. So talent-wise, I don't know how to gauge or really represent talent, but his career, he's not next up.

Well, I mean, game is a, he's a lyricist. You know, he's dope. He's a lyricist. Yeah. I give him that credit for the writing, you know what I'm saying, his penmanship. Yeah. But Chris Brown, right? From a musical perspective.

I'm speaking solely from a musical perspective. I don't have those three, then yes, Chris Brown, right? And I would have also picked. Chris Brown. Yeah, well. But to say he's the next Michael, that's, sorry, a second of Michael, no way. Not saying he's second to Michael, but he's the Michael of his generation. You think the weekend hasn't surpassed Chris, bro?

Oh my God. Why did I do that? I'm just saying, listen, man. Here. And listen, bro, like, in terms of platinum albums, hits, well, hits Chris Brown got it because he's been like off a longer.

You just keep putting him in the mix. You keep putting him at the top. You saying, oh, yeah, he got, Flaco, just rested. He's, it's Chris, bro. I think Usher is the next sense, next. since Michael.

You feel me? And for sure, sure. But Pastor Chris Brown talk. But Pastor Chris Brown talk. Now, yeah, he's dope. Now, a rapper recently came to L.A. and he was involved in a very unfortunate situation, Cuanderando.

Yeah, that's crazy. Now, you are a hood veteran, a vet, a real smart dude, strategic. Seven-star general. You feel me? Real seven-star. Facts, War General. How would you advise

artists to move? And also, too, we found out there was out here dissing you know, like distant folks. So how would you advise a rapper coming to LA? He's completely oblivious, don't know nothing. Would he just check in? Or like, how do you say? First off, you just can't check

in with anybody. When you, when that checking in things is used so loosely, when you meet, like, when you come out here and you're not from LA and you want to get tapped in, I suggest you do your extensive research on the people that you tapping in with. Some of these dudes might have smuttle their name,

but dudes like myself and KK., we don't got no smut on our names. You can't find no paperwork, no funny shit. No nothing. We don't have paperwork. So it's like when you come out here and you tap in with certain individuals, tap in with the right people that's not going to put you in fuckery. You ain't from to have you in your enemy hoods. How you around like now, you can't prevent when you go out and things happen. But if you ain't out here doing no extra out shit, you ain't dissing niggas and you basically provoking, I don't advise no rapper that provoked any artist that's not from LA to come out here to LA and think it's sweet because it ain't sweet out here.

It's not sweet. It's far from sweet. Now, you might have some rappers that's cool because, oh, like, okay, they want to get in the mix. That's cool. But if you know willingly and knowingly that you've been dissing artists in L.A. And you coming out here on some free willy-nilly shit, bro, what are you expecting? Man. What the, why do niggas think coming to L.A. is Hollywood.

Well, because Hollywood is in L.A., right? That's Hollywood. Yeah. First off, niggas don't even be in L.A. like that. Niggas don't be in a trench. niggas ain't in the west bs niggas ain't in the pvs you feel me niggins ain't they not in the hoods they not in the hood hoods so all that shit niggins somebody's oh i'm in l a lady no nigga you in beverly hills like okay niggas can get shot up there too you know why because y'all announced where y'all from

location and niggas oh you up there yeah niggas are pull up like how i pull up yeah niggas will pull up on you and check your temperature. And so now I'm saying the only way to stay safe in LA after you got beef and smoke with other people. You better. You better tap in with some with some real ones. Man. Because a lot of these dudes be wearing this title as a real one and they whole background is

smutty. Smuddy putty. And they're duddies. You feel me? I ain't no dud. You feel me? My background checks out. Like, you know, Wack did a background check on me.

He came back and was like, oh, you're crazy. Yeah, nigga, I'm crazy. Damn. Yeah. Yeah, listen, I'm so glad he felt me that I responded back and played, you know, and played it perfectly, man. Now, you, what it was, bro, like I said, it was a misunderstanding. Yeah.

You had your thoughts and how you felt because you didn't know. Exactly. You get what I'm saying? And I can respect you for allowing it to be what it was because, again, I didn't even know who you was. Exactly. And then we start, you know, texting each other. I'm like, man.

I'm going to have to hollab, bro. Like, that was my first thing. It wasn't, I'm going to beat this, nigga. I thought about it. I thought about it, but I had to really understand, like, you get that, bro. Listen, and everybody thinks that I'm this, like, so even like Rockstar said, you know, I thought, like, you were like six foot one, two, you know, like $2,000, so I'm a really, well, not a small guy.

I'm still physically imposing, but I'm not, you feel me, but I'm not tall then. Listen, man, right? So before we head up out of hair, man, one, what's coming next up? Man, blue, up, section. Section comments. Joe Moses featuring the coyotes and myself, this is my record. It's called Section. Be on a lookout for that.

We got the Project Blue Flame Crip on Fire. Wait, coyotes, right? They're like the Spanish guys, right? Correct. So question for you now. I hate to ask you about just mad wrappers. That's cool. But Swiftie Blue said he, he ain't signing to know Negro.

Well, he said black man, but, aka Negro. What's your thoughts on that, man? Do you think that, I guess, that, again, I don't think is racist. That's just my, you know. If that's where he, if that's what he, that's what he feel. That's what you feel. Now, do you think the backlash that he got was worth it or deserved? What did you say it for?

What was the intent of you saying that? Why would you have to say that? I mean, is it piggybacking off of another situation? If that's how you feel, that's how you feel, then don't do it. But for you to have to verbally say that, what was the intent behind that? Like, I don't know, bro. You feel me? I don't know.

Don't, and Frank, quite frankly, you don't care. I don't listen to this music, don't, you know what I'm saying? So it didn't bother me none at the end of the day. But for my people, it's like, what was that? You know what I'm saying? And if you, if that's just how you feel, that's how you feel, that's how you feel. So stay over there. You feel me?

Like, you know what I'm saying? Because I fuck with Mexican. That fuck with me. You know what I'm saying? Like, shout out to the coyotes. You know, they came through. Bless my record. And they're signed to whack, right?

Yeah, I guess. Yeah. You see? Yeah. You see. You see so Mexican rappers can sign to like black guys. Yeah. I mean, their business is their business.

Yeah. Man. You know what I'm saying? So, so it's a section with Joe Moses. Section. And, you know, we're putting things in motion. And I have a song called Motion getting ready to drop also. When?

Oh, man. The video, the video, the video, we in video mode. So it's like, wait, is that song some like some real aggressive LA shit or some melodic shit. What do you think? Take a guess. Here. So, like, you, like, you've been giving us the real melodic shit for years. So I'll probably say you about to start rapping the bombastic, fantastic.

I got a nigga and felt fast. I think you might want to hit a record and be a judge of character. Judge it for yourself. You listen, man. It's going to be different, man. Here. And last thing, man, you know, Kay, come here, Kay. Kay, K, K.

Listen, man. You listen, man. Before our official interview, Kay, do you have anything to plug, man? No, I don't mean that to say. You all rap? No. Yeah, Bispit. This nigger.

It's six-foot-three with tattoos for no reason. You don't rap, my nigga? Well, man, well... Listen, man, Kay, do you have any friends? Friends that's, like, dropping something you want to plug? Hip-hop trends? Well, bike... Yeah.

Oh, my... I'm like, shit. Nah, no, you get... I know. Rockstar got a podcast that he was about to start doing Arizona. Yeah. I'm helping my all with that. Pop-up on a gang episode.

Well, definitely, man. Listen, man, hip-hop trends. Y'all shit is dropping soon, man. No jumper pullest podcast in the world, man. We're out of here, folks. Salo.