No Jumper - Yak Gotti on Beating the YSL R.I.C.O, Leaked Interrogation Video, Lil Woody, YFN Lucci & More

Episode Date: July 8, 2025

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No Jumper. Coolest podcasts in the world. And today we bring you long-awaited sit down with the man himself. Welcome home. You did what I'm saying? Yack Godd is in the building. How y'all going? Oh, man.

What's the word? Feeling good, man. Bless the hand of faith. I can't believe it. There was a period there where we didn't know we were ever going to do another podcast. I know what. You always have faith. Her faith.

Mm. Perfect. I always have faith. You know. It's a beautiful thing. because we got our first one in probably like a year before you got locked up or maybe like two years but it was like kind of close together right crazy yeah it's crazy life life life yeah to say the least um how long you been out now though

can you smile at the ear hey too much I got every reason to whip a month so it's been a month third day and for the day first thing you did when you touched down I wouldn't see him My baby, my daughter. Family time, you know, when pulled up on my lawyers. Should I do it, do it Weinstein. You just got crazy close with your lawyers throughout the whole process? For sure. For sure.

It's like, when you're in a situation like that, then it's like, I'm seeing them every day. So it's like, hey, I'm counting on you. And I'm depending on you, you know. I mean, your lawyer was on Vlad. Yeah. He's out here. You're doing the whole media run. Yeah.

Shout out of. Shadda. Katie, Hingerton and J. F. Fis. Is that the closest you ever got

with a white guy? Kind of, for sure. You never thought about it like that, but... I ain't never even thought about it like that. Over the closest life. You feel?

I appreciate it. You gave everyone, you know, one of my first shots. But if we worked together every day for four years or whatever it was. Three years.

Three years, yeah. Every day. That shit was like school. I got to get up at myself. Five, six in the morning. Go down there. Got damn handcuffs, shackles, feet cuff, pad away. And just like, he learned me.

You know what I'm saying? It was trying to make me out to be a goddamn serial killer. Right. And, like, he actually learned who I was. And he fought for you. Yeah. More different. Like, even in that Vlad interview, which I watched a bunch of parts from last night,

is like, he's kind of combative. Like, he's really, like, mad at the way that the system treated you. Yeah, man. They try to fuck me all the way on here. So, you know, but he fought for him, though. Shout out of Doug, for sure. Shout out of Doug. Everybody needs a good lawyer in their corner.

More deaf. Um, shit. So, it's a lot of shit. Let's just start with, uh, talk. I mean, yeah, you've been out for like 30, 40 days now, right? For sure. I seen you drop the song the other day. Yeah, first one out.

First one out. Yeah. How old from you in the studio nowadays? Periodically. You know, like, it ain't like it was because I'm healing, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. My sentencing and peace to be more important than just, like, go rap. But at the same time, rap, it's my therapy.

So, it's like, I talk to that mic, you know what I'm saying? what it's like I'm getting it together it's a jettlement you feel yeah you were writing bars now while you were locked up or not yeah man I'm pushed that people through my raps away though really they do everything way they rate them and said through everything away whoa why they're they're hang yeah hang hey this that right street for sure so yeah because I heard you talk about right street saying that was one of the most crooked hardest places to do the time that right right street here they're more of a car Knife Street.

Freedom, Free Wright Street, though. Freedom Boy. But, right, it was crazy experience. Like, 50 fights. Like,

real 50 fights. Like. You had 50 fights. Yes. Whoa. I can't count. They fight. I'm talking about me.

Yeah. For sure. Yeah, what are there, though? What star in the fights, though? Like.

Shit, they put me on news every day. Yeah. It's my, like, I'm yet. So then I like. Yeah.

Yeah. Mawr fucking got down. You can get your stripes up. You can get down. Do something to me. You can make a disc on. You know how to shit, go. Yeah.

Why ain't? Man, they're crazy. Yeah, so you had to deal with the young niggas in there trying to get the name off you? What? Yeah. Yeah. What? You know how to go.

All right. I'm built for it. I seen when you all, I think the first, when you had got out, for one of the first thing you said you feel like you was reborn. For sure. What's the feeling of, you know what I'm saying? Like having all them gears taken away and now you back out.

And what's the stipulations though? Like, because you technically beat it, right? Yeah, he's the only one who really took it to trial, right? I'll take this shit. Yeah. Taking the trial to come too, man. It's like that way you got to watch it.

And dismiss it. Like, you got to watch what you say. Torn, pal. But in the same time, like, I'm an artist, so music in my heart. So I grew up listening to Mr. Beds, you know? So, like, I just feel like, like, could the Tate and the child song was a remix?

It was a remake. Although we couldn't, like, long little Mr. Bid, but we couldn't kind of, like, remake his song. Yeah. So we're just like, you feel, we ain't knowing we actually going to go through this. Yeah. But, you know. Because, like, the, lyrically, I remember,

title in a clip or maybe the full interview something about like yeah goddy speaks on what he meant by saying he had bodies on bodies and so then when this trial actually cracks off like a year later or whatever i mean it did feel kind of crazy like oh shit like that title just feels and looks way different given what he's now accused of man please like bad as on bad it's just like women you know like I got women

on women but there was 2014 I believe you know what I wasn't even oh like I wasn't even like I'm not thinking about no damn

murders and shit like that like you know I'm talking about women and we're just living you know what I'm saying and so and I mean it's like you say some you're in the studio you say some random

tough shit. I assume you don't plan on people inspecting the validity of these statements or taking these statements as fact. Right. When you just say, you know, not you, but we got 100 round choppers or whatever. It's like, yeah, rappers say they got a bunch of guns. That's kind of just like an

established rap trope. It's entertainment. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's entertainment. It's like, like, it's entertainment. And that's why I say the tone is powerful because it's done. And I'm like, we know we were influenced on the whole generation on the world. We're just like trying to make it out of our situation.

So it's like, um, like, they tried to make it. I believe it was some shit. Like they tried to make it say like 100 rounds in the Tahoe. You know, round me, like my partner, my bro. Mm-hmm. You know, like. A hundred people was a lot of people who put in the car, though. Yeah, you put a hundred people in the car.

You know what I came from? You're gonna pile up in them all for a year It's like That might take on You know like You can't tear in my life You gotta actually ask You know what I'm saying

But does that make you think twice now About what you were putting in songs Because I'm sure that a lot of people Involved with this particular trial now Are kind of like damn I wish I didn't say Some of the shit that I said Most certainly

Most certainly And like They kind of like slow down my art script but at the same time it'd be like a blessing in the sky because shit hey man

it made me think about it and I got to be more creative you know what I'm saying more conscious I'm saying more death because it's kind of always easy to just resort to saying some violent shit

or some shit about you know some street shit in a song it's like the easiest shit to me make sound cool. Right. Because like, that's how I grew up. You know, like, that's how

that's what I've seen. That's what I, you know, so it's like, I'm the voice for multiple people. That don't mean I'm rapping about what I went through on my life. Yeah. I'm rapping actually in turns, it's like what I've seen or what I've been through or with my peers been through.

Man. You feel like that was playing with your freedom of speech a little bit, right? Because like, yeah. That's the first goddamn amendment. Freedom of speech. You got to say what you want to say. I at least can say what I want to say. I ain't brain a motherfucker.

100%. So, all right, I was just thinking about this. Like, would break down where you were at in life and what your day was like right before the RICO ends up dropping and you end up getting arrested? Like, where were you at? What was life like at that exact moment? She and I had check out. from some other shit

from the feds oh okay yeah I was in Talladega shout out the boys in Teladay in Alabama but at then I was like grinding trying to get everything together and I'm saying

trying to get my motion and shit going and then it's like I had moved out I moved to Canada you know what I'm saying and get away from everything just like focus

me ain't like key long little kid when I was doing my violation he was like brother just come out here like let's do it whatever you know what I'm saying

and fuck around I went back for Mother's Day to see my mama and then shit boy I had three year later four year later

I'm saying like just like so you got snatched that when you went home to go see your mom More deadfly was going to goddamn Get my mama her flowers And when I had to get to her for a much They could I moved away from her To pursue my dreams and my goals

So who got snatched first Because I remember the moment Everybody realized this she was serious When we seen the video Of young thug outside the house And there was like oh shit The Rico shit going down Were you already locked up

Or they snatched you after that? Nah, I got snatched at that same time Oh so the same day Yeah So all y'all was getting picked up But pretty much the same day Yeah like we got locked up at the house

yeah yeah so you was at that same house the dog was that oh shit because I didn't see you in the video because he was like so then I saying

all right it makes sense it makes sense yeah I got a lot of whatever on May knife more death May knife like one of the worst days

in my life he put up now type of taints and shit like I ain't what hell I feel like big-haired taints like

had you had any kind of feeling that something might have been going on because you moved out and shit. Was there anything like sort of on your mind? Like maybe shit is heating up? No, because at the end of the day, I know I ain't this shit.

So I'm like, what's the problem with trying to make it out? You know what I'm saying? We created opportunities and business for a lot of people. You know what I'm saying? What the hell we did? You feel?

I'm like, what the hell? I did. Like, why I was all this chaos. Like, helicopter, this chappas and all type of shit. It's just like on top of that, I just lost

two friends I grew up with lonely on madman and a bit. But on top of that, shit, I just lost a sister.

I'm saying? Thor just lost one of his baby mammas. So it's like, you know, it's enhanced. Like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's dramatic, bro. Like, that shit is dramatic.

You know what I'm saying? And so you had no idea what this could possibly be related to for the whole time that you were arrested and like when you're being processed in and everything? No, I'm going to understand. Like, from the time they're saying they did an investigation or how that shit go like, I'm locked up down the majority of this time. So it's like, what could? I even possibly did. Like, you know, I'm locked up. I'm not even in that long.

So, like, it's like, what the hell? What's going on? I ain't found out, I ain't found out I was booked for a murder to an intake. I'm like, with my charges there, I'm thinking it's like, just recall over the other, whatever. Game charge. I just did five in the fed for a game charge. So it's like, it's double jeopardy. So it's like, what the hell I actually did?

and it's like, damn well, you chose murder and Rico murder what they did I murder like when they went you feel? Yeah. It's like, nah, yeah, nah. And it's got to be like extra stressful because obviously

the first thing you want to do is just have conversations with everybody else involved with it. Yeah. But meanwhile, you can't talk to anybody, right? Yeah, I ain't time trying to talk nobody for, nothing up, no, do this or that, you know what I'm saying? Like, and I've been going through this shit. 17, so I kind of understand

what's going on, or I'm able to adapt or grasp. But at the same time, like, hey, man, what's going on? Like, okay, what's our own dorm? Really? On dorm. Em, there whole dorm out and put

seven people in here. It's like, every night I'm sleeping in a different cell. Like, well, I don't know if this shit wired, bull, I don't know what the hell going on. Like, you know? So you're in there with all of your co-defendants?

That's unnormal, but, like, probably like four, five, one, some. But you want to, so you want to talk to them. They're right in front of you, but you're too paranoid about it if it's being recorded. Yeah, I don't have a little night. We're in the same dorm, whatever, but you don't know if you're on. Right. You don't know, there's a rule. Like, it's a law or some shit.

Right. It's, like, super obvious. Like, why else would they? Man, why y'all put out of this in here? And get rid of everybody else, too. so that every conversation is something that they might be able to use. It's like, you know, your inner country is talking to you. Like, hey, man, what's going on?

Yeah, someone ain't looking right. Something ain't feeling right. But who was in this door? I'm not not felt, right? Nah, yeah, nothing I thought. You know, me, that nigga, dude. They got gunner right out of that over, like a couple days. Shouting.

Shiley shouting. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Slod. God damn. A couple more folk. Did you figure out a way that you could actually have conversations,

though, or you just didn't even try? Nah, they ain't really nothing to talk about. You know what? I mean, I really ain't too much to talk about. Like.

But y'all at least wanted to figure out, like, what you charge with? What you, like? Oh, yeah. Hey, I got to the bottom of all that. Oh, God. You feel? I'm like, what in here?

Okay, what's your charge? What's your charge? What's your charge? I got to all that. So initially, when they came to Thug house, you did run for Thug. creed in it and they called you?

Yeah, I got out of it. Just what out through the back? Like, was it like woods or something? Where I went, how I went, I just know I would got down some miles a week. I got animals or whatever, whatever. But you got kind of crude that. You, like, found a different level of cardio that you didn't know that you had? What?

I ain't know the police. I ain't trying to run from the police, but I didn't, I just told you I went through some real shit. like, yeah. I just, like, two, like, partners I grew up with,

you know what I'm saying, who supported me. Yeah. And then I lost a sister who, like, it's my nephew, mama,

and so what I'm saying? I came in. But this is my nephew mama, you feel, man, she was for anything, like,

for the rails on to this shit, you know what I'm saying? So, yeah. It was, like, extra dramatic,

like, man, why all these goddamn damn chopperson gun I'm like somebody trying to kill us like you feel so eventually

where they catch you at or you turn yourself in how did that how did that play up um shit some couple miles away yeah

you were just in somebody's backyard or some shit hell no somebody else private I was at the hospital oh

I'm gonna go goddamn I'm yeah I'm way on why the hospital though shit they were behind I'm saying

they were behind we had yeah Yeah, I got you. Damn, all right. So, I mean, all the one thing you did say, though, you said they put all y'all in the St. Holden tank or whatever.

But you said gun, they took gunn up out of there. Not the holding tank or dorm. Dawn. I mean, yeah. They got gone out of that. They lied on Gunn's my, this shit's so crazy, bro. They lied on him to my nurse who friend to bring him some drugs.

Hmm. Man, Gunna, don't know. Nothing about no drawers. And then he's trying to see, like, what a hair? going on. I'm locked up. Like, it's a whole different. See, I mean, getting locked up with a time.

It's a whole different situation for him. You know what I'm saying? Like, he's like, what? Like, I'm trying to have to make him eat. Like, you feel like, bro, eat, bro. Like, what you're doing? Like. Because one thing the internet was saying, one thug and Gunna got locked up,

they was like, trying to say, like, I know them boys going through withdrawals or whatever. Like, can you know, niggas be doing whatever they do? Yeah. And then you said that, uh, they lied on him instead of the nurse, was trying to sneak him some drug. Where didn't even get that theory from? Hell of I know.

But that's why he got snatched up out of y'all shit. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I feel like a lot of times if there's something that people are thinking, there's just going to be a rumor that fulfills that, even if it's not based on anything. You know, everybody's already having the conversation. And everybody, when Brick got locked up, same thing.

Everybody's like, damn, that's crazy. Free to Brit, man. You don't got perks all of a sudden, man. Free to Brit, man. Free to Brit, man. Free that what? We got to get a history lesson on you and him, too, at some point in here.

Appreciate you. That's my boy. I'm out that to the bottom of the list. Okay, say that. Okay. Say that. Say that. Okay, but like, I mean, how long were you in there before you actually started

to go to trial? A year? A year before trial. Yeah. Okay. And did you, like, how did you figure out your lawyer situation? Have you already worked with the lawyers that you ended up using? Pretty fair.

I just had a gamma. Mm-hmm. I had the gamut. when I just had somebody referred me to a list of lawyers and

someone came to see me someone video chatting me then came to see me something like it just like damn

you know and then like I wanted Matt Sharp when Shannon got him shout out Shannon too shout that boy bees but okay then

some kind of way my initial lawyer Um, J. App. He, FaceTime, man, like, shit, we gonna, I'm gonna get you out. We gonna beat this shit. That's all I had here. That's all I had to here. Just like.

Were all the lawyers you were talking to showing confidence like that, though? Yeah, no. Really? No, some of you know, some of you lawyers swap your ass out. Mm. Yeah. Some of you lawyers swap your ass out. So we're like, you got to be cautious of who you actually hire.

Mm. I'm saying. Oh, definitely. Damn, for sure. But was thug, like, paying for people's lawyers, or does it not work like that? I don't, I don't know, but I don't think he paid for no bad lawyer. What I'm saying? Like.

But it ended up costing you, like, an insane amount of money, I assume, right? Most certainly. $200,000. Jesus. I ain't he had $200,000 a year. Yeah, me, like, $200,000 don't get no better, man. Yeah, me. Yeah.

But who made it work? God made it work. Best money spent? Yeah, been my life. What else would you rather spend it on? Freedom. Yeah, freedom. That's about it.

Freedom. Yeah. Freedom. They had initially pay another 50,000 to get out after the case even over. Oh, word. Another, on 50, 150 on top of that? Why so much? No.

50, right? A 50. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Why, ask your 50 piece. I feel like the cable so had profile, just like, I did what going on. Yeah. But I can't argue with my freedom.

I'm saying, I got to handle the bin. I'm standing on a bin. How long it'd it take before they took you out of that dorm and put you in, like, general population where you have to start dealing with all these crazy people that are stabbing people and whatnot, apparently? Oh, I was always in general population. I've never been like PC or no longer. The dorm was just like while they're taking in. It was just like a week later shit, they feel their motherfuck up.

So they were even more scary. Like, they could be in farming this motherfucker anything. Right. I'm saying? Like, after they were even more just enhanced. Like, they feel their motherfuck up. Feed them more people. Like, I'm familiar faces.

I'm saying. All type of shit. I ain't need standing at dawn on. I got a little altercation then. They sent me to the sound flow. I started on the fifth floor, went to the soundflow. then had to go back to the Cid floor so the first altercation

that you had on the fifth floor since you were the different floor for the altercation get up out of there some flow what was that one about like what kind of stuff is causing these issues um nigger tribe my shit

like I don't want to get it too much but I didn't try him and took something from well he ain't take it from me but he took something man when I seen him shit over that but shout out of

them too shot that boy hat ain't gonna be no smoke on no pressure with I can't you know I can't go for that period every in life

one nigga takes something from you know about the nigga all right yeah I don't you know you just called it right out

like no you're gonna do great one day I'm good you're gonna be great keep remote yeah keep yeah

yeah free yeah free mo yeah yeah Yeah, right? Mm-hmm. You link and old your lawyers and shit

every day and then the trial about to start. What day did the trial start? I can't even give no specific date because, like,

that shit crazy. Like, I'm still hitting them trump tied, but I can't give you no specific date. But I know, like, okay,

we got a lot of, May knife. Trial ain't starts like January. And then it ain't actually start to around and this,

me. It was like, juror selection. Yeah. Motions. Motions on motions. Like, so many motions. Because at the time, on the blogs, we keep hearing, like,

oh, this is probably going to be the longest trial in history. Are y'all hearing these news and shit, too? Like, they're saying, like, No, I don't know. I ain't know it was going to be that long. That's what they were, on the laws, they kept trying to say, like, the jury selection process was going to take a year. Like, it was just a whole bunch of everyone like,

damn, they're going to be fined this for a long-out time. Like, how much coverage and how much news was actually getting to you while you went side. Like, did you know the case was getting this high profile? I am in the street, so, like, I knew everything going on. I ain't saying that to you. Like, I know what's him? But at the same time, like, you can't believe everything.

You hear, but you don't believe everything. But you're just like, I was taught to pray for the best and expect the worst. You know what I'm saying? Like, they was just like, shall me expect anything. Well, I'm going to be prepared for anything. Whatever they was in front of my plate, I was going to be prepared for. But does anyone in there have a phone, or is it more like people are just calling you and saying, like, yo, academics just posted this about your case? I'm okay.

I ain't trying to get in. Boy, having me. Yeah. I'm trying to be in for the boy. But, like. You were finding stuff out one way or another. I'll find shit out, though, for sure. Yeah.

Yeah. I would find it out. Wow. You know? It's like, see, there's a thing, bro.

When I was going to jail when I was young, shit, it was just like transition. But their time just like enhanced because I'm just

one of the biggest arts in the rare. So a couple of the biggest artists in the rare. So it's like, but it's yeah. The police is calling me it. Yeah.

I'm saying, so I'm fine out out what the hell going on. Like the officers. Like, You're good. I'm saying? So it's a little special treatment, y'all getting in there.

A little. I want to say, like, special treatment. I'm saying, but, like. The notoriety, they... It's a little more notoriety, though. Yeah, so they're more in tune to be, like, you know what I'm saying, keeping up with your case versus the other inmates and shit

because they, you know, land in the two and shit. More there. Like, this, it's a city. They were raised. They where I made my name. So it's like, I know. What's going on?

They know what's going on. The TV every day. Yeah. They don't... It's multiple people getting further notice. The FM awful. Just because I case. And that wasn't even right.

Y'all got people who've been way long than we didn't been. And they shit getting pushed back. Because of y'all. Because us. Or we didn't have all the lawyers. They had original. So it's like, you know what I'm saying? Like, it was like, I was kind of like,

reciprocating the energy they gave me. You know what I'm saying? Like, bro. Gee shit, bro. I just had to breathe, bruffering so many people. Just to even be here. They had so many people depending on me,

bro. So many people I met and they were genuine with this shit. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's what it is. Like, each one, teach one. Like, one hand wash. order like prayer call every morning i'm saying shit like that like that we got me through i'm saying

like before i leave out there i'm gonna tell the officer like hold on but i got to get this prayer off like i got to um yeah because it were real i'm saying you go in there now and you got to let somebody else represent you and speak on your behalf yeah you know how many times i want to get up and speak for myself that part not for sure during the trial right you're like what wait hold on me stand on. They're real. It's my life. Niggas was looking at your faces and body language and shit during certain shit.

You feel, man. You got, like, pogofa this shit out. All right, so, all right, let's take it back. So before the trial even started, a whole bunch of shit was circulating. So one of the main things that had circulated was, all right, so when did you find out Thug, oh, Gunna took his plea there and he got up? Because y'all all in there, and then eventually you got to hear like, oh, shit, Thugna got up.

Yeah. So where were you at when you heard that news? I was on Sunflow. I seen like the Sunflow had windows that you can see out of. So I seen that boy pull out, maybe that's true. But at the same time, and like, I knew that his motivation. But so you saw him leave, but you didn't know what the circumstances were yet? That's crazy.

That's a mental image right there. Yeah, shit like that, though. I seen him leave, but I ain't. He feared him. But at the same time, I knew too, though. you know, like, I got a lawyer, I got a pay lawyer. Yeah. I know they caught $200,000.

I know. You better to him in there going on? Yeah. Yeah, I got to send him something. So you kind of knew in advance? He's going to take a plea? I ain't know you been, I ain't know. But at the end of the day, like,

they be saying, like, a plea just a bad thing. Yeah. It ain't, a plea ain't always bad. You know what I'm saying? Like, plea ain't just no. A plea don't mean you told. A plea don't, like, plea ain't always fucked up. So for my understanding

Just don't take no Fucked up, please But a plea can Fuckin fuck you up If like, all right So usually people say please If everybody in like You know what I'm saying

Cahoots with the plea deal, right? Say you and your homie did some shit Yeah, both agree to plea out Yeah But it get a little tricky When somebody might take a plea That don't go

Align with what else You got going on Right So that's when the plea deal Could get a little tricky Right. So it was a situation Where I guess

So Gunna took his plea to and y'all didn't know that he was going to take a plea. Like, how much did you know before he took it? I ain't know shit. I got separated from me about it. I was in some flow, but it's like when I found out, it's like, shit. Somebody made it out.

I ain't know why I'm going to ever make it out of that motherfucker. I know I ain't even did shit. I ever did time for the shit you out of charging me for. But somebody had made out this shit. It gave me motivation. That was few of my feet. Fah. I'm saying.

I'm gonna get out. You know what I'm saying? It might take me longer. And I ever knew that. Like, my fight, like, my fight out would be hard. Because he was,

he wasn't the first person to take a plea from the trial. He just won him. Yeah, he won the first person to him. And get out. All right, so with that being said,

when did you realize or see the video of his plea and realize that people were like, you know what I'm saying, was trying to throw the jacket of him on him because of the situation

and how he took his plea. and the things he said. Shit, like, I told you, I seen him leave. So, you've seen him driving off, but you, who wasn't in the courtroom necessarily? No, I went into courtroom.

I didn't think I went to court, that they. Yeah. So, like, it was just, like, shout out. And then I had to find out everything after. And then, like, had to analyze. And then, damn, my man.

I ain't know, yes, man. Yeah. So, like, shit. Damn, dude. even know what's going on. I'm saying? I thought they offered them a plea right for a criminal. Who the head I don't want to go home for a criminal?

Boy, I don't mean so many a holiday. I didn't mean 10 years every holiday. Yeah. They were trying to get home. You know what I'm saying? They're trying to get home, twin. Now, they're the reality of this shit. Like, I'm trying to make it out.

You know what I'm saying? Like, you know where to be? But the thing is, so everyone was upset with Gunner and they was throwing the snitch, on him is because during his plea deal, of course he got the famous, yes ma'am, shit that everybody know. But they were saying that,

because even Kevin Liles was showing up to the courtroom, the whole thing was they were trying to say Wassel is a gang versus Wysel being a label. And his plea, he said, is Wausel a gang? He must be stopped. And he said, yes, ma'am.

And they were saying that was hurting Thugs case because the thugs in here saying, we're not a gang, we're just a music organization. So when you're hearing that, how do you, like, you know what I'm saying? Because I'm not sure your, your lawyer's defense at that time probably was the same thing.

Like, hey, we're not a gang, you know what I'm saying? We're just a music organization but he just took a plea deal and kind of said y'all niggas was a gang. Yeah. So how you had mixed emotions or? In this shit, you can't show no emotion.

You know what I'm saying? You can't, I don't know I'm twin. You understand what I've been through. This ain't my third rodeo sick or third. Yeah. They had my fourth field rodeo.

So it's like, little brother did what he had to do you know what I'm saying he did what he had to do he had he did what he had to do or he felt like it was best for him she that ain't lawyers some ems he's talking out there 200,000 I'm saying it's talking out like you know what I'm saying so he probably legally advised to do what the hell he had to

what I'm saying and that high be your lawyer got your best interest and he ain't ram out this person or that person but I think like the general perception is that someone like you has been more in the streets definitely more experienced dealing with the legal system and having to you know keep your mouth shut and everything like that did it strike you as if like gunna was maybe kind of naive about what he was getting into with that did it strike you as the wrong way for him to have moved as you know a guy who's affiliated with the streets

Like, initially, like, for sure. I ain't going to be naive, man. Like, yeah. But at the same time, I got that person on this show, this show. Just like, hey, shit. Somebody out, I'm saying? Like I said, it just gave me more motivation to know, like, we good. This ain't no fed, because it's state we go.

I ever done being fed. Right. Yeah. So did it feel kind of small time in comparison in a way? because you'd already dealt with a federal case no but it's a state RICO and it's like the biggest craziest RICO ever maybe. Not really

ain't that small time your life on my yeah so I'm gonna put you down on that like this shit real yeah I'm saying and it just felt like like shit like then I'm like every man for themselves

I'm saying like then I'm not every man for they sell but at the same time it's like who on the other man for they sell but at the same time it's like we won't have no game yeah we're never no games a gang is shit like I ain't gonna go in detail too

I ain't for a game like hey we got a oath we do this we pay tith we do this like it wasn't ever no game we're some niggas trying to make it out I'm saying yeah we're just trying to make it out I mean yeah you can watch YouTube

documentaries breaking down the exact gang affiliations of everybody involved why ourselves like a label a crew it's a real label yeah

like none that's any from the same hood none that ain't from the same like someone's from the same area but like

it's like there was some shit like we were real trying to make it out and we made it out I'm saying so at the end of day you're probably

be proud of shit like we proud of us yeah I'm saying like it wasn't dead. It wasn't there. It wasn't never that.

It was always just like a group of guys trying to make it out. We, in turn, found like a brotherhood. I'm saying? Like, we ain't sitting no goddamn room. Like, yeah, we're going to make a gang and goddamn, we're trying to step on this

and I ain't never there on shit like that. If you saw a gunner right now, would it be all love? Most certainly. I ain't got no problem with nobody. I'm happy to be here. I'm saying. Is it crazy seeing, like, him seemingly doing pretty well with his career and everything.

Seems they kind of went in a different direction. Not like really talking about as much street type stuff. But he seems like he's doing super well for himself. But shit show, like, it ain't surprised me. I don't expect nothing less. I'm saying? Like, that would I expect from going on. What you thought about the, like, the Brandon Butter song that he dropped when he first got up?

Because that song kind of was, like, addressing the whole. situation. Like, he said, the whole bunch of shit in there that people kind of, like, they didn't know how to take it. Brin' bottom,

like, I heard a couple of times, but I ain't, you feel, I'm just still getting adjusted, but, shit, apparently that how he felt

all that's what else with. He's standing on, like, you know? Yeah. He didn't say no thing, so, you know, the internet

going to take how they take. He ain't just put no, I ain't, I don't know what, nobody, nobody, I don't know what the, he really talking about.

He was just trying to break it down because one thing he said, he was like when you know your partner and you're in business with a rat and everybody was trying

to figure out who he was talking about they had speculation on I don't know but like that line stood out when he recorded that song because everybody thought

he was talking my little baby and QCP situation or whatever the case it was so when that song came out did you initially feel like

because like how all right so how did you feel like he took the plea deal and you see how the thug is reacting to that and you don't have the same stance

like you said you see him as all good why you think thug feeling different I don't know how to feel you know what I'm saying like I don't know how to feel like I'm saying like nobody really know who we were talking about or who you know what I'm saying like people just take shit

how they won't take you know what I'm saying like in the day bro like we all thug put all this on yeah baby. And shout out the baby,

shout out the gun, shout out of the shit. I thought, like, it's just like divided a comfort twin. I don't, I don't know what's going on,

but I don't get caught up in this shit. I'm my own man. I don't, I don't, I don't know what the hell going on. I can't get that sick or tell you what they think because I'm not done. Isn't that part of you

that just wants to hop on the phone with the gunner and just figure out what's going on? Part of me by the same time. Shit. I got to, my own got damn family feet. Hmm. I'm saying, like I gotta worry about yet.

I don't know. The thing I already been rich for five, ten years. I was locked up, shit. Like, they'll figure out, me smart hair. You know what I'm saying? You know, they, they pretty balanced. They know what, they know what's going on. They, if I could, I would.

But at the same time, I don't know nobody's stipulation. And I'm not, you know what I'm saying? Like, trying to get nobody to fuck. And I'm saying like as far your stipulations are you allowed to like I know you might not be as speed a thug because I know thugs not supposed to be talking to me like that's his shit yeah like you have simulations about how you can move what you can do right now you still getting piss testing anything like that all they don't do no chores I don't drink on but they don't piss test you for sure they do oh okay that they pit to him shout out my peel what like I own my freedom

it's priceless. I'm saying my family, my kid. I always shit priceless. I'm saying, so it ain't worth doing no drug or reaching out or doing this and that, you know what I'm saying? No, for sure.

It's in my energy. I know everybody's good. When you build some shit and you be with a person every day for years straight, I can feel you. I'm saying, let me feel it. I can feed.

I know what time. Do you feel like all this was, you know, obviously nobody wants to have to deal with a crazy ass case, but were you maybe not living a healthy lifestyle drug-wise around the time that you got picked up? Was it kind of like a weird opportunity to clean your body up and everything? No, definitely. You know, health well. I'm saying, yeah, for sure.

Health is well. But at the same time, like, I was ironed on probation. I was always on probation. Oh, yeah. I'm saying I always had to go get pissed I always had to deal with some shit So me I ain't really like Been on drugs in a minute

I'm saying I always I play sports I always kept my battery together So I ain't go through no withdrawal Nothing this shit I'll rhyme out My mama sent this shit like that Like who I'm hurting in turn I'm saying Yeah as far as that who was really holding you down

Why you were locked down doing this a bit I got a great support system bro. I had a great support system like great support system like mom, pops got a damn step mom like yeah

got them bros I had a bro hold him down you can be like if I ain't got nothing else I got my bro that damn you feel him like I got a great support system so

all right so unless you got no I mean shit So many ways we can take it. We've got so many goddamn questions. Yeah, I got a hell of it. All right. Fuck it.

Let's go. Let's go here, though. So. All right. You say, Nash. So, oh,

yeah, that boy said it, man. Shout out, the visionary himself. Shout out. Saddy Nash. That nigga is right there.

I don't know what that boy. But shout out. All right. So look, so you locked up. I think you said you was in the whole. I think I seen you said you was in a hole. And the interrogation video

dropped of you from a long-ass time ago. and you said a few things in there and I think 1090 Jake made a video You know what I'm saying He was trying to say that you had snitched on Duke And I think Wack was the one Because Wack initially said he had a video on Gunner that was from the release

And then it ended up being you So everybody was kind of thrown off Because he had went to the internet Saying he got a whole Gunner interrogation video Then we see that video Of you in the interrogation room And you said some shit about Duke

Where were you at when you find out All that got leaked? Were you shocked that that got leaked? And what was your mom state and my friend when all that shit went down? I went forward up at that. And they're like, if I were trying to have something, I would have got a seal.

You know what I'm saying? I've got a motherfucker's seal if I'm trying to have something. But at the same time, like, why was it? I was in Union City. They kicked me out of the right street. I got banned from Wright Street. So I couldn't go back down. They kicked me out of the whole jail.

All right, sir. You're not at Wright Street after someone. No. You know what you know what you might get kicked out of the street. a jail. Yeah. Boom. It's semi

the union city. I think I was in the hole. I was in the hole for sure. What you in the hole for? I got two the office.

Like, the house case with the office or some shit like that. Like, he tried to goddamn rough him up

and some shit. I don't know. Yeah. But goddamn, I've got that a nigga name too, but,

well, I find out and I said, why here there, what it is? You feel? Like,

you don't know, what to this day about Duke like Duke know what the hell going on like it might be you might

was new to the real but Duke know what the hell going on yeah for sure like so Duke

wasn't thrown off when he's seen that video at all what you're throwing off for you ain't did not a date

for this shit I did all the time what the hell you thrown on for if anything they ask you my type of shit

all type of shit I don't know nothing about yeah so I'm just trying and get out of jail I ain't got damn ever my life did

or nobody never, their life did a day for me. I did all the time in nine years. That's the crazy part because everybody like, because we see the interrogation video but we're like, damn, the niggas, yeah, doing more time than everybody. Yeah, you know, yeah, can't do that wrong.

You know, I ain't going to hold them accountable. I hold myself accountable. I'm peeped. I'm pushing. But if the interrogation video did look crazy because you was eating food, you know how memes and shit, they were like, that nigga was eating good up in there.

And then the one thing you said, the one thing you said that niggil was on you, you was like, you was like, shit, y'all let me back out. I can go get some more information for y'all, you know what I'm saying, however to go. What was your mind state when you were saying that to them? I'm going to tell you, like you said, we're old, probably 21, 22 years old. I'm saying? So you got to go through certain shit to even have knowledge. But when I got out of 2020, did I put on the goddamn why?

I mean, you know what I'm like that I started in investigation that I started like They had me by four murders and interrogation Yeah, I don't got nothing to do it You feel? Yeah, I ain't how to say this or that and that You know what I'm saying? But at the same time like

Ain't nobody right there coach me or like anybody God damn you feel And I know I got to go back the right street Yeah And eat a fucking baloney something And comes there So I can eat the Tempe I don't know for which I was in my

I'm in the shmack them all right. I'm gonna do my time. What you got ordered? What did you tell him to get you? I went right in McAnneville. You see what I'm saying? I went to McAnneville. I got down Lambert.

One of the motherfuckers on through shit. And they're like, it went back in that. Like, it's saying punk-ass meal called me five years in my life. So it's like, this ain't, it's ain't, like I say

if I wanted to have, so I would have the shit to see her. plenty of people around them off of that they shit's here hey boy you can't you know what I'm saying you can get to it but you can't really get to it but I ain't try to hide now so how did the jail react though

because you know everything hitting the blogs and shit the jail people somebody had to tell you because they found out so how were they reacting to jail some nigga pushed up something got beat I ain't 50 in no I got in the 50 fight between my hand broke right now and see their bone my shit broke right now 50 fight I feel like flood

But you say you want all the motherfuck I can't lose Because you are already saying that people We're like basically Trying to come at you Because you're famous Because you're all up in the news And then all of a sudden

It's viral like Yeah I got he told or whatever It just creates a scenario Where anybody who wants to get a little bit of rep Or a little bit of recognition Could just try to do something to you And they're gonna make headlines Yeah like

It's something that if you know You know if I'm like Like, I can't, when I'm fighting for my life, I ain't trying to impress nobody on this and it. Just, and everybody got a pen like an asshole, but to keep that shit over there. I'm saying, don't, if you come to me with it, then I got to protect or defend myself. But, like, keep that shit over there. People don't have what they got to say. That's all the time.

But ain't nobody just going to press me or oppress me or nothing that shit, you feel? Yeah. Like I just told you, like, I was on the same floor. A lot of people don't come from no cell flow to him. A lot of people don't make it back. A lot of people don't... Nien, he didn't get put in the toilet and then get shit that. You know what I'm saying?

Like, then get tired up, like, shit real. So, because after the video went viral, I don't know how long, I don't know the timeline of it, but the rumors hit the internet that you got stabbed and you got stabbed up. So people was assuming it was from the videos that leaked online. No, yeah, nah. So just a whole different, complete. People just put it together.

Yeah, just saying shit, bro. Yeah, now, that was some more shit. And I still won that fight. But, got down, some of that shit in the young city. Yeah. How many times you got to hit up?

When? You got to stab once. Where was it at? In the dome. Oh, yeah. Like, right at someone. And the dawn. What was the recovery process and all that?

Like, how long it takes? I went to court in that day. You ain't no record. I already recovered. Yeah. Fast did you go to court? What was I? Did I want to go to the court?

Yeah, I need to come home. You know what I'm saying? Right, a day before Deliberation. Yeah. Do you have, like, an opportunity to go to, like, a PC part of the jail at a certain point? Like, because I'm assuming that they're,

you know, the CEOs are not oblivious to the fact that you're, like, way more well-known than everybody else in here. Yeah, you go to PC if you want to. I don't want to go to PC for. Even when you got these random thugs just trying to get the name off you. they'll be all right. I'm overly going to be all right, though, most certainly, but they'll be right. There was never a thought that, like, they might make you do it?

Because I feel like at a certain level, they're just going to make you not doing it. You can't make me do that I don't want to do. What I'm saying? Like, that's your right. You can sign a wave, and I don't want to do that. But it's like what I'm in PC for what I'm having for, like, what I'm, you know, if he can't do it. I can't if I want to, but that ain't. Like, what I'm going to PC for, 20?

I don't know. I mean, a certain point where you got people coming at you a certain way. It feels like it might be. This is a lot of people to go for it. Atlanta's like, my city. Like, I'm, I ain't born, but that was raised. Like, what I'm going to be? All you all, y'all know me.

I hear about in this motherfucker. No one. Like, know me. Y'all know the criteria. I know what going on. Well, I'm going to go in PC for. And get out something else to talk about. It ain't by child, my sentence.

PC come out one time a day. No. Yeah, no. I can't do that. I got, shit, I got a helmet. I got, shit, I got to do. I got people I still got to take care. I can't get that accomplished and sell by myself or, you know what I'm saying?

That ain't what going on with me. So during the trial, uh, our God while I said, would he became a huge star. the trial. Like, people thought he was, like, one of the star witnesses. Uh, did you, did you know how popular him taking the stand and getting on the stand was? Because, like, every day he was getting on a stand is on live stream. Every clip going viral. Like, you hearing, like, how viral was going at the time? Yeah, like, I wasn't hearing about it, but I'm seeing that shit in my life.

I'm got to go to court and see him. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But, like, like, this woody and him. Like, that's him, you know what I'm saying? Like, it down, like, and shout out of Woody, you feel? Like, shout out, Sheldon. And, like, it down on, like, I ain't gonna say misled, but,

man, Sheldt, lost him, mom and, and dad, in the early, so he's just been in the street thing. What did your relationship stand in front? When did he start coming around, and you even start getting, like, hanging out with Woody anyway? I'm not Wooliside like 10 or shit like that I want to know I'm wood for a minute

Yeah I'm saying like We got cool through my cousin And then got down He tried to rob the dice game In your neighborhood right Oh my mom Not even raw

He just tried to bog up the motherfucker And I I went going You step to him And you got some level of respect From the way you both handled it More definitely Some shit like that

It's just crazy to imagine Like you know this dude Anybody who's been around him knows he's a crazy personality like completely one of a kind insane human being and you know about him as just like a wild ass dude in the streets or whatever and then all of a sudden you're in court fighting for your life the least funny shit on earth and you got to sit there and see him just put in on the wildest performance in the history of a courtroom and everybody at home is watching it just dumbfounded and you're there too but you're you're you're dealing with the

the craziest shit that anybody could ever have to deal with. It must have just been a surreal experience. Because I've never seen anybody do anything even close to what he did when he was going up there. That'd be retarded, bro.

They're him, twin. Like, that's him. Like, he ain't crazy. And that's him. Like, that's him. He's going to get the same injury every time he's him. Like, it's him.

Like, it's down, like, what's going on? And then shit. And I'm be free. So what can't I don't say like a nigga home Like

What would it did? I mean shit Some people He get backlash though Because like I guess he got some In the early interrogation videos So people would be saying like He didn't want that jam dog

Y'all niggas up in the first place How you feel about people saying that on the internet and shit? Bro It comes point in life Like motherfucker I take accountability And that ain't one person You know what I'm saying Yeah

It ain't one person and everybody. I take counterfeit. Like, whatever, ham, and we pay this shit, and everybody's doing good. And everybody's free. So it's like,

I don't even dwell on that type of shit. Like, I'm just looking, like, what's in front of me. I'm saying? But you can't just put all this shit on home. I'm saying? Can't put no shot like that. Like, it just,

I'm saying? Like, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's for real all this shit really be beneath a nigga like this shit really divided and conquer

but at the same time I ain't gonna get too far in deep depth yeah but we're free what's like what's going on

what's saying what happened what really happened like I'm saying yeah it took three years to be free

but we're here now let's get it I'm saying we having something to I have I'm having something to them boy doing what they're doing

you know what they're saying yeah you ran in him yet he'd be all over the hey. I ain't just like ran to him but I seen him broke down some shit like that. Oh on the side of the road? On the side of the road.

You're in a Bentley, right? Yeah. Bentley. Ben tight. Like, that bit broke down. I don't know. He ran out of gal or something wrong on the car. You know, I got it over. Everybody ain't got their car. Are you good? Y'all good? Got down.

How you been? Oh, Shelaide. And then. when I said, boy. I mean, it's very weird to know somebody and then have that person become famous. Like, this is just a very strange experience to see everybody just, he's a normal person to you

and then all of a sudden, everybody's just geeking out about him. But for him to get famous in the weirdest way possible, and I've seen in the real life, I've seen straight up like nine-year-old girls freaking out screaming in the bowling alley, running up on Woody. And it's just the craziest shit ever. Like, that just been kind of surreal

to see him become a celebrity, he's like doing all these 20 versus ones got all these videos of millions of views and you knew him when he wasn't shit like what was that like? No, that's real. Before we made out of London, that we him, I'd say, that's him.

Before the real news, she was doing the same shit, like, you know what I'm saying? It probably wasn't disenhanced, but she'd been, all they've been famous than them. Everybody's famous at them. I'm saying? Yeah, everybody's something out.

That's your eyes. see the operate like even did you know what's that but are you surprised that he's been able to like move around the way that he has because you know we're used to people snitching and then having you know their community kind of excommunicate them to a certain extent but with him it feels like that's all out the window that's right that's him right child are going to give you that every time you him. You know what I'm saying?

Like, that's him. Shout Woody, man. Real stand up, dude. Shout out. Self made, man. Shout that boy. You from McAnnesville, too? Me?

Yeah. I'm from Carvone. Joy Land Carvon. How far? So when you start rotating on Cleveland anyway? They two Carvone down. I probably like, I was a baby, man.

Probably five, sit there to my hood down. Wooded Cleveland. Got a kid out of their school. got damn played sports in the Kennedy yeah like

I'm just a project between I'm in all over forward got damn field ward don't let her home

I'm just I'm like east side you know saying belt up plows I'm just all through this shit

and I'm from so I'm just I'm everywhere with I'm saying all right so while you

in right did you ever bump into Lucci while he was in Yeah, yeah I ran to him I ran to him

What was the conversation And shit like between y'all I pushed up But it wasn't on like You feel, I'm not no, I'm not going to Because everyone has no beef Ain't no smoke You feel me shout out shout out

It was a little bit of beef Like a nigga the famous Because even the picture got used You standing on the nigga whip At Lennox I think they used that shit in the In the trial But that ain't smoke

If it's smoked Then I'm at you I ain't standing on your car. Like when we were in Atlanta, people pointed out to us like, that's where Lucci's car was when Yagati stood on it. Like, this is like a historic landmark.

And it was trippy to see it in real life and just picture how crazy that I must have looked with some dudes standing on a car. I, damn, I see, man, home home too. Going good. He feels like his hood is right behind my hood. Some of here, right? Yeah.

I grew up in some of here. I stayed in something here like hey good and shit 10 44 I'm saying like know this shit vivid but it wasn't never no like I say if I'm at you I'm not standing on your car so they'll just like me caught up in my mom or doing whatever I'm doing I'm saying like that shit ain't really one never batting then no so when you say you pushed up on you had a conversation or just like a little altercation scuff and tight shit I went on altercation and that shit like goddamn I think I got maced or something that shit like that damn I think I got maced or something they took me to medical and then I ended up seeing my thing he was in medical so we had like

seeing children pass you good yeah you good yeah I'm saying what's that what's that? you got free all games when I keep up her like that like you feel mad at the dip point like all that was just doing good and all this locked up yeah so you kind of understand like hey bro this shit ain't worked it none of this shit ain't worth anyone even never nothing so it's It was not really for anyone. You know what I'm saying? I mean, when baby brought Lucia out the other day, a lot of people just had no idea what to think.

But it felt like a sort of a slight sign being shown that people in Atlanta were ready to have some unity and to be past that situation. Yeah. But I don't know what going on out of shit. Like, you feel? I just focus on it. Yeah.

But when you see that, I mean, little baby's not an idiot. He knows what the, he's going to think about him being affiliated with him. I just, I don't think there's any way that he does it without knowing that he's got the blessings to do something like that. I don't know. I ain't taught none of anything. So I don't know. Like, you feel?

It's like, like, like, niggott's doing what they got to do. I'm doing what I'm saying? And at the end of the day, no bad shit. Atlanta as a whole, like, we got to find. find some solution and get this shit back together. For a week tell you, we had this shit on smear. Now, this shit kind of like,

you know what I'm saying? Every other city or water down or like, you know what I'm saying? Like, every other city got the baton or, but, you know, I'm out for the peace. I'm all for the unit. I ain't fought about it.

So you feel like the treatment of gunners unfair? You know, do you see how everybody switched up on them? Yeah, man. Shout to the Alphley. You've seen the trial. You didn't see any niggas who was really snitching about certain situations or had certain shit to say. So when you hear what Gunner said,

you know what I'm saying? Like, you definitely feel like it was like, you know what I'm saying? He said what he said, but it was like, damn. Because like even little baby, he's talking about, like, little baby and Gunnan don't rock out anymore. Yeah. I mean, that's what it looks like on internet. We don't do any music.

We don't really know that. Like, you feel? I mean, bro, you know. You can see from the post and shit. They were locked up. We were watching the unfollows in real time. The blogs are saying so-and-so just unfollowed Gunner. Like we were watching this happen.

Like, him too. And then you got Doug co-signing it. Like whatever wham says, go the billboards and shit. So it was like, it seemed like the divide came. And like Gunner just got exiled out of that shit just from that one little that pleaded. So you, you know. I don't know. Like, I don't know I ain't talk no much

I can't speak on what they, you feel? Yeah. By as a whole, have you seen gonna do really any music with anybody else? Do you think that's a situation because, like, he dropped two albums since he been out, and I believe only in the one feature was an offset feature.

Yeah. And usually Atlanta is like stacked with songs from everybody in Atlanta. So that's where the fans, like, well, it seemed like people ain't really rocking and gonna. But musically is music. If right now, if you look on Spotify,

Gunner is outstreaming your thug right now currently, but he don't have the back in of Atlanta, it seems. Shit, the real big of a nothing, you feel? We from Atlanta, so it's, like, home base, this backyard shit, like. And it's just like,

it's on shit, like, it's all right now and I got them being there. So they were just enhanced it where, like, even if niggas was talking on, even if niggas was doing what they doing, it's like, I don't hear about it, but I don't feel like some boys got no real smoke or pressure with it, you know what I'm saying?

Like, them nigga made history too. Yeah. I'm saying, I mean, came in and the shit together, so a lot of the shit don't be nothing about the conversation. But I don't know, you feel? Whatever, they're saying shit. It's like, they were there. I feel like, well, yes, they go.

Yeah. But, like, I salute everybody. Like, ain't know, you feel. But Gunner just code out the Y-Sail tattoo That made the blogs Everybody feel like You kind of like closed that chapter Man, Gunner probably got Y-Sel him

Three, four times, man You feel, I don't know I don't know If you got to tell him, I don't know, like I'm saying, like It's that's not like He probably doing whatever he got to do I don't, I don't know

Let me ask you, would you do a song with it right now? I do a song, Gunner, Mm-hmm, go on like, come on Let's hop on the new album yeah well now like we still in the same labor yeah yeah

oh so gunna's still part of why I saw because we seen thud just dropped the uh the song money on money with uh future

and it looked like I don't know like the imagery like you burn the wiser like he's still on labor bro he's still a part of whyso

this shit yeah you seen thud drop business business man this shit business bro

so when you learn to understand business it's like how did you feel when thug was in court and you heard brian still asks for thug to still be able to have communication with sergio kitchens which is gonna and not necessarily everybody else that's on the label your lawyer got your big interest so they're gonna see what they gotta see for you so i ain't got nothing to do with it and shout out of brian still like i don't know

like they were going on like if this was going on this what's going on what i'm saying like like i say you won't wear your heart on you steal you don't sure no emotion. Do what they shit is. Like, and they're what it is. You feel? Like, me, personally.

Yeah. I hold them boy I can rehash and got damn. I know what they do in their studio. You know what I'm saying? Classics. What? You know what I'm saying?

Like, if not, shit, that's on them. Who was the craziest studio session you've been in around them boys? I know you did to see them cook up some crazy shit. Bro, every night was a hit.

And it's crazy because we didn't get to put a lot of that shit out. Or they ain't get to put a lot of this shit out. But we live in the studio. I'm saying? Yeah. Like, every night was hits on hits. I'm saying? Everybody bring a different energy.

But, like, I remember there was a YSL house out here that I went to with Desto Dub. Shout out Desto Dub. And it was like, you know, Duke, all these different YSL people. like if you really knew who's part of the crew was like star studded lineup. Thug wasn't there at the moment, but it's like they had a studio or two set up, everybody around,

just smoking, hanging out, recording. And I was just thinking about that when I was like reflecting on that memory. Like I wonder if that'll ever be the vibes again because it feels like, I mean,

I don't know exactly how Thug is living right now, but it feels like he's just kind of in his own world and that that big label family, was kind of a thing of the past at the moment. Oh, shit, like, I remember that how they were new spot. Oh, it was his spot.

That was his spot. That was a dude spot. But shit, like, I don't know. I feel like it still be that. That's our lifestyle. That's a nigga lifestyle. So,

even if everybody ain't together, that's how people, that's how we live. You know what I'm saying? Like, thought made a weight to for us to understand, like, life is bigger than what we're from. the trenches. So then I'm like, like, shit.

I should have one of them poor a day night. You know what I'm saying? Like, this is lifestyle. Studio got down. You know what I'm saying? People running around laughing. They're just lifestyle, bro. Like, I don't know. It's God playing twin. Like, it's on. Like, God, you know, everything I already ran. So, I'm saying? We're like, like that. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. type of shit. So people like doing what they got to do for them. You know what I'm saying? Like people got kids, family.

You look back on that. It must feel just like simpler times when everybody else, everybody's shit was just a lot, a lot easier. Obviously, everybody had legal issues all along and everything, but. Yeah. Compared to like now, it just feels like that would have been a different vibe. They probably would have to be security outside. That shit still lit. I don't know. It might just be a little different now. This shit still late.

This shit still lit. Everything lit, and a little in the side. This shit still, everybody's lit, twin. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like,

some of that shit down there'll be a bliss in the sky because you can focus on you and what you got in front of you because, like, man. You got any regrets? Yeah, I know.

But yeah, too. Because as you grow and get older, you realize, like, I ain't even have to do that I ain't had to go there route, you know what I'm saying? But at the same time, and like, shit, you only a once, come in. But it'd be like, you know, but yeah, here, like, what I recruit.

I had taken life is serious. I'm saying? I'm not taking shit as serious as, because I didn't know how big how that label was, bro. I ain't know. Like how much influence I. I didn't know because you in it. It's me. It's us.

Like, it's, you see what I'm saying? I ain't know. And I did out his time, and then I get out, 20 to 20, it's Corona, so she don't pause. Like, cattle were closed. And we had this house in a while, like, everyone was closed, but just, like, taking shit more serious. Like, and that's my vow now.

Like, take this shit serious and get myself a shot. You was locked, though, with Burma and brother? You know, Terrence, Gangster Williams? Yeah, I know, gangster. He said he was locked up with you. Yeah, I was locked up with it. In the Feds. It was in Florida, Maryam.

My first, um, proletal institution. Yeah. Yeah. Do you feel like he was throwing shade at you? Do you see that clip? I'm talking about you? What gangstead?

Gangster, yeah. What he said? It was on Vlad, and he basically, like, when, I think Vlad brought up the fact that you were in prison with him, and he said, Yeah, you know, it's kind of funny that when yak was locked up with me, he just kept talking about how much he hates rats. Man, I ain't said shit, the gangster.

He said that you were just on repeat, just saying, man, these rats is everywhere. I hate these rats. My combo gangsters, probably one or two of the own combo we had with some shit. Like, hey, man, your brother helped nigger make it out. Got damn. You know what I'm saying? one hand white soda you need me

you know what I'm here for you but they're pretty much ganges where you're eating on the pound and shit like that but I ain't I only recall saying no shit like that the gangster way it is what it is like you know he out he just got out from a life center

oh you doing what he's doing you know what he's doing no do you feel like thugs sold himself shirt about taking the plea like could you see how you beat it because now he got the 15 year probation and shit ain't gonna walk that shit down

You know what I'm saying? Like, he did what he had do for him. Yeah. So, I'm like, I don't feel like he sold himself short. Like,

he did, you know, like, he got out of jail, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. He already done created opportunities

for so many people. And, you know what I'm saying? Like, they got him weighed out here and call or whatever, that was,

like, they what he had to do for him. Like, you want to say yourself short of this and that, you know what I'm saying? Was you in the courtroom the same day that thug was able to leave? Was you in the court day day? I was in that, yeah.

Tell me the feeling like the energy in the room that day. Because I was big on the block, so, like, you being in the courtroom, what was the energy like? Like, that I'm like, how you're explaining shit, like. Like I said, like, it gives you motivation. I'm saying, like, okay, I'm coming on, just waste your time. I'm saying, like, everybody gets time. But that's the biggest one that, like, you really felt like, oh, shit, this shit for nothing. My fuck's gonna beat this.

I'm on the way. Yeah. One time, like, shit. Everybody getting out, it just takes time. I ain't gonna let everybody out together. So after he had got out, how long did you stay in there? You was in there for, like, three more months or what was it? Three four more months, shit like that.

Yeah. And what took, you had to keep fighting, right? Because then you got offered a plea? Yeah, my plea was crazy. Yeah, what was that trying to offer you? some quarters and 50s yeah

so you didn't even think about it you never even got close to a deal that you were thinking about yeah 10 to testify 50 do foote is all type of stupid ass shit I mean that's not like some

unimaginable shit so walk us through the day that you was found not guilty I get stabbed day before wait a month going to court walking the motherfucker I mean Shannon we say the prayer recited some scriptures

when that motherfucker beat it Michael Jackson, but at the same time I ain't just saying like this smile I'm like emotional

I was like down the shit over I thought I was and go home that day to hit most emotion because yeah

you wasn't able to go home yeah so what was that situation man so you beat the murder charge and then they added something else

where you have to sit a little longer right for fighting in there, right? Yeah, fight and Countryman and shit like that. Oh, is it from when your mom brought you the clothes

that had the woods in it or whatever it was? Nah, hell, nah. And my mom beat that, but so I don't got damn pull her on the news and just like, it should be crazy,

but, yeah, for anybody doesn't know, like, basically his mom gave him some clothes and it had like some weed and some tobacco

or something in it? No, yeah, it wasn't even weed, it was just tobacco? It was like some, some motherfucking like okay

the clothes she's packing is in storage because I lost everything yeah like a year two three years just like I fuck out this shit I got a provertire

so fuck around some kind of way like it was some tobacco or some shit in the pants that she was bringing from the storage

and then got down shit OG got booked I mean anybody that smokes blunts cigarettes whatever it's a pretty good chance

that if you were to just grab a bunch of random jackets or hooties or something that you would have some shit yeah yeah but like it's my mom

she ain't just oh it's just like mong grims clothes for court and yeah this is my mom doing that

you know what I'm saying she they bought me shit for court right where they tried to make it a scene like, you know what I'm saying? It's just like a real mistake.

What was that process like every day going to court? I guess your mom or family members was giving y'all clothes and outfit every single day like before the trial? No, we were bringing clothes every Monday or something like that. And they were clothes for the week. For the whole week.

Yeah. So you had your line up and set up and shit like that. That's just so. Look at the head wet. What's the time about, do you? All right. Yeah, Wack got out a rollout involved in you. Watt crazy, it's here, man.

He hyped for the people who don't remember. I don't know what. What is crazy, it's him. He, when the interrogation footage or whatever dropped, he hyped it up that he had footage of Gunna telling. And then 24 hours later, everybody finds out it's not gun at all, but here everybody's attention and then the video, you dropped. Shout out, that boy, 100, man.

That motherfucker crazy. Because, wait, you spent time around him before, right? How do you know him from before? Some shit, like it. 2015 and I'm saying kind of a long

and got that it was just like a little situation but got down you like that motherfucker got hard

twin for you to come to another motherfucker city yeah oh you're talking about the situation

he always talks about in the mall and Atlanta or something shit like that so you were involved with that

I wasn't involved but I was there I was in linic yeah like you should be a hangout yeah

and go get no matter with t-shirt whatever and what was it was like a peace treaty type thing between thug and game?

Yeah. And you were there. And Wack just initiated this and everybody came together and sort of settled shit. I don't say he's just like initiated, but he, like, you know, it takes two or more than two. You know what I'm saying? To pro-grown men to get on the same accord and just like, look, bro, we're bigger than it. Right. Or we're better than that.

You know what I'm saying? Wack loves to do that. He loves to be the dude who's helping motherfuckers get over there issue. So definitely sounds like something he would do, but definitely like being able to initiate that kind of thing in somebody else's city, I mean, that's a big undertaking. Yeah, yeah, like, like...

He's connecting to be plugged with a lot of people. Yeah, and that's down there's down how you find out who really in it and who not, or who really fake and who not. So it's like, multiple of the same resources to reach out to each other and turn it down a lot. It was a respect there after this. being in respect, you feel.

So, like, that would a deal, you know what I'm saying? Shout the boy on. I respect, nigga, hustle. But you ain't feel no type of way when you see his live interviews and shit? Where? I ain't seen no Vlad interview. But I heard about it. But at the same time, like, I ain't fucked about what I don't even say. Like, I want you keeping over there.

And then, you know what I'm saying? You don't come over here and disrespect me. Well, I feel, three. You can say, what the head you want to say? You feel like, this is the, you're just the, the internet, brother. You see what I'm saying? Like, it's like, my life for real.

It's like, my life ain't the internet. I'm an artist, so I know what's going on with. Just like my life. Yeah. So how small is, like, how small is, like, our area? Because Summerhill and Cleveland, how far is that from each other? 10 minutes. 10 minutes.

Those are all, y'all all freak out at the same stores and all that, pretty much. No. But my hood and some here frequent the same store. So, like, you got Claude Chevron. Yeah. I was saying, shout out Carlton, shout out Joland, Forward. Like, feel like. That's the famous Chevron, too, right?

Yeah, that's why I call Clude Chevron. Yeah. My uncle used to have a restaurant in the same little plows is in. Yeah. But, you know, I've been gone. They're not built out type of shit now. Yeah, it ain't there. Nice here, though.

No, Sherron's still there, but a lot of the stores that they have. Yeah. Like, my uncle shit ain't done no more. He sold. But shout out, Uncle P. But goddamn. Fuck around. It's like,

everybody grew up together. You got to see each other. What is the club? You know what I'm saying? The station is goddamn. You know what I'm not saying? And one thing about it, like, I'm not sad.

Yeah. So you're going to have to see me. You got to see me. Like, you're going to bummer to me. Oh, my side. You ever since I've been on. I'm not sad. Yeah.

I ain't just. the house and I do be in the house. I ain't saying like I'm outside for no reason, but let me feel it. Like, I got to be the one to feel it. You know what I'm saying? Like, what was your relationship like with like

Birdman and everybody? Because like you know, the whole rich gang area, I was all hanging around a lot. Oh, definitely. Stom. Stunney is stunger. Stunner the biggest. Yeah. I'm saying. I spread out of

the moguls and this shit. Like, they don't get no big of stung. Stunning the big You know what I'm saying From shout to come from New Orleans And go through his shit Then shit align I'm saying

I end up me your brother Then I end up running to BG in the feds And then like Shit align that BG home doing his shit Oh you ran in the BG and the Feds too More definitely Where They're five I ran to head back

Yeah Transit or whatever I ran to it back Yeah Sure What can you tell us about Break Baby Back in the day

Boy, brick, man. Free Citro, man. Brit, like, brick and he on the way, he influenced a lot of shit in that Lama. Right. Like, gee shit, like, he influenced a lot of shit in that Lama.

Because, like, we won't ever reason to be different. And Shalda came around from a whole other culture and then, so what I'm saying? And he was just, unapologetically him. I'm saying,

he don't care of a little nigga, though. He don't go, fuck. Like, so how you're getting a mix with Chado? Peewee? Yeah, free long way. You knew long way before. Free to blue M&A.

Like, had Longway been locked up ever since you got picked up? Like, what was that? Six months? Yeah, long way,

been locked up. I mean, since I've been gone. And that was crazy because we went to Atlanta to film that content with Woody and fucking Brick went

linked up with Peewee for a little bit. Peeway gets in, ends up getting arrested like two days later. Some shit like that. I think I've seen out of YouTube, TV, NJ. Bad luck. And niggas was no connection.

And you know how that shit got. Obviously, everybody's going to be like, oh, brick gun on. That would be the thing. Be like, you don't know. We're real, man. Isn't it? Just like, AI, like, all this shit. Like, you feel, man.

Well, I mean, what they got long way for or whatever, the investigation he was part of was, like, the kind of thing that they had been spending, like, years putting together. And then Brick goes there for, like, you know, a couple hours. And people were acting like he's the reason why. I don't even know, like, I just know, like, freedom of a long way. And, like, shout up a pound there. shit too. And I don't feel like he got headflower. So free the boy long way. Like, you know what I'm saying? It was time. I can't. I think, nah, I went out here. I went out here. I was in Austin. But,

like, like, long way he helped a lot of this shit. Like, he had an outlet for everyone, a studio. I'm saying? When motherfuck couldn't afford studio time. So it like, like, free home, like, shout out of the home. Like, he actually helped this shit. Because he didn't want to put dog with Gucci, right? See, y'all. Was you a roundfather? I went around for all that. I had my own emotion going on back then, you know what I'm saying? So at that time, you were rapping doing other shit, or you just sports and shit?

So when they're doing the whole... I was doing that type of shit, man. All right, for sure. I was doing. I was a rap, too. You know what I'm saying? I had NJ's got out of deal with Block Entertainment, rubber game type shit.

I had that just got out of deal with some of the RCA. So then when you started coming around and start rapping with Walshself? I found like 13, 14, so shit. like that. I'm saying, but I'm seeing they movement while I'm doing my shit.

You know what I'm saying? And my group just broke up. So the group I was a part I just broke up went through their differences and then got down we do this shit.

You know what I'm saying? And I'm seeing him I'm doing my shit and then I'm seeing him out of town and throw a real nigga so he's like,

hey, bro, get with me. Yeah. I got a situation for you. And I'm, whatever, man. It would just like some real shit.

Like, all, cool. If I'm just seeing him continually, it got to be like distant or the universe.

I'm saying? So, in time, I got down, like, end up signing. And then I think, like,

somebody else tried to sign me before we drop dream, and then I fuck around and like, I'm going to do it with bro. You know what I'm saying?

Like, I'm, I'm going to support him. I'm doing with somebody from where I'm from, you know? Yeah. Yeah. So, do you feel, so, because, like, at one point, you have the whole Ridge game movement going heavy, you know what I'm saying?

It's when even Soulge Boy is Birdman, it's Thug. Then you got Rich Homi Kwan, and then all of a sudden, you know, I guess Thug and Rich Horme Kwan started parting ways and stuff. People say that they started, you know what I'm saying, splitting up because of the whole Yuffin. think it's a game, shit. Was you still friends with Rich Homi Kuan during this time, or what was your relationship with Rich Homi anyway?

Like, only a corn. Like, I only a corn, man, corn, corn, like, corn, you know? But, shit, like, I was around, and shit with efforts, man. Like, them were originally why he ain't, who ran around the motherfuck of a trim. Thug and Korn. But that way, he was different. like difference when tour

that way showed the whole alum so I can never shit on with this shit like you know what I'm saying but man that shit was lit bro like everything

cool I don't know how whatever like with the insides or whatever that was like I came around strictly for the business I'm saying to add to this shit

no and make sure this shit go that's what I came around for I ain't come around like on the type of time they're thinking or wish what i was accused of you feel like and then came around actually because we seen home come from when i'm talking to my thought come from this shit and then quaint has own shit going on and then they came together and bird kind of helped get two people who actually from like the same part of the city together yeah i'm saying they

had luna you're like we hold outside of cane me let's do it you know what I'm saying man that's what it is totally like separate part of your life but this is a question I was wondering is when I'm watching the interview with your lawyer on Vlad do you have a conversation with him beforehand about what you're cool with him saying because there was one moment that I was a little surprised by where he's talking about how not guilty you are and how you definitely did not murder nut and he's breaking down where you were at what you were doing etc and it's it's pretty convincing but then he's also saying Woody was in this location when this was happening Woody was doing this he's basically saying and he pretty much does say

like Woody did it. Yack didn't do it. But I know that if I were to ask you right now, who killed Nutt, there's no way you're giving me a straight answer. You're going to say, I don't know. You know, that's just the code. So is that kind of weird to have your lawyer doing interviews where he's saying things that I don't think you would say?

Like, do I can't do no wrong. You know what I'm saying? He knows whatever he's doing or whatever. I don't know. But at the same time, I don't know. know who the fuck killed it. I know I didn't kill it. You feel him?

I know I didn't. Yeah. So it's just like, but we speak on Doug. I can't do no wrong. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah. Was you ever around nut, though? Because there's a video of Birdman, Nutt, and everybody on the yacht.

So he was around for that era too. Like, oh, was you there? I went in there, like right then, but like, we from Atlanta. So, like, yeah. Nick, no, nut, you feel, him. Shout out, Nett, you see him? It was him and... When I say, Forward,

Nett from Forward, you know what I'm saying? How far is Forward, from where, Somerville, and where you from? Probably about 15, 20 minutes. Like, Batts Creek, nigga had, like, probably, like, 8 minute. Yeah, you know what you're doing? But, like, shit, like,

it's a city. Yeah. Shot-was one-on-one from the city. Like, in the city, you know what I'm saying? Like, they were going on. What about Cheryl Kell? Was you friends with him at one point? Not here, no.

I ain't ever been friends with him. Yeah, I know him. I seen him in the right street. Oh, so you had ran into him? Because he out, too. I think he did an interview recently. Yeah. Yeah, I ain't seen him, I don't know, but.

Yeah. I seen him in the right street. I know care. Like, he ran around insane, you feel. But, like, friends or just, like, hang with it. Yeah. I ain't have a home care. Yeah, I was never really, friend.

I ain't, like, well. Was you there when, uh, because they say that Duke got punched in the face by Shell Keller, uh, Magic City? Was you at Magic City that day? No, yeah. All right, so that. That's the night I got locked though, though. That night I did five for, for the night.

That's the same night. I did five for, yeah. October for, I never forget. But on some shit, like, that way as appealing to me. until I pour out of the bull shit because Duke can't ever did the day for me. Yeah.

You feel? I took the shit. I went to fit. Duke got right out. I ain't do a day. So how did I ever tell him to Duke? You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

Yeah. Well, that's the night, but I won that match at all. No, nigga, punching on me. But I want, you know what? Yeah. All right. How often would it be, though,

niggas run into each other in the clubs and Shenanana? Because Atlanta only so big. Every night. Yeah. Every night. We're going to clue a heart. We're going to go everywhere we want to go.

And just niggas running into each other. Yeah. Small shit. Man, nigger ain't trying to go to jail, bro. Yeah. Nigger me all that kept shit. Why? Nick ain't trying to go to jail to me.

They ain't trying to go to jail. This shit can have anybody. Like anybody, nobody's not immune. This shit can happen. So you guys are seeing people that you think of as ops and nothing's happening just because it's too public. It's too easy to get caught up. It won't be like us. It'd be differences.

Up is a motherfucker like, I'm trying to kill. That you trying to kill. I ain't trying to kill nobody by the way. That you're trying to kill. What? How do you feel about people getting mad at Thug for, well, I don't know what they're mad at Thub, but the internet is basically saying that his brother,

Unfunk, took the same pleado that Gunna did. And I think they're not, they're saying, like, how can Thug still be cool with his brother, if him and gunman took the same pleader man in there say anything in there that trum how do you feel about that though if they took the same pleadil then

shan-nigas be pulling the same boat I don't feel like I don't feel me I don't feel my brother's oh you knick like on my label yeah you feel him like so if you're gonna phone

like you just down all like you feel you're my mom's son man what they're out to my man I don't feel like what is y'all to me Like, what is y'all talking about? Like, what's going on?

And I don't even, y'all don't even know he feels some type of way by the other person. But child told me to feel a certain type of way and keep a certain type of energy with my mom and son. But we came out, he's in? Yeah. Yeah, all right. Airport, like, what's y'all talking about? But the internet just making a narrative that they want to be made.

Like, nobody have never heard though or say anything. You know what I'm saying? He play into it a little bit, though. I don't know. I'm just saying from the Internet perspective, like, he's giving us, or he's giving the fans what they want. Like, he's saying it without saying it in the way.

Thor is Thor, twin, Thor. I just told you. They either original who ever even made it. Like, he talked to rear the blueprint, and we didn't even understand this shit. But whatever he do, like, he know what he's doing? What's your relationship with Duke now? Y'all, y'all ever get to chop it up?

you all allowed to talk or anything? I don't know. I don't know. Like, I don't know we allowed to talk and shit but we ain't talk, though, but, dude, my big brother. I'm saying?

Shout out to Duke. Nicar free, twin, like, nigga free. Like, shout out to Duke. Like, whatever, him. So if you drop music now, you dropping it on while I sell still? I'm driving on the pure faith.

So that's the new. But, like, you know, you feel? I'm not. I still my life, but I'm driving on a pure faith. Yeah. Did you see the,

the new I sell logo? Yeah, how you feel about it? Yeah, how you feel about it? What's it look like? I don't see it. Oh,

it's hard to even explain. You just have to, like, Google it. And we show you the moreover time? No. Did you get it instantly? Like, what I meant? Because I was confused a little bit, like, is this, like, splat thing?

Yeah. Let me see. That I'm on with Trump. I ain't get it. And I ain't like, and then I think I've seen the breakdown. But yeah, it's like a Y and S and L,

I guess. But it barely looks like a YS right now. You don't know what that motherfucker is. I ain't like, internet this shit, they why I just learned like. Oh, that is crazy. He ain't put a motherfucker up.

He don't know what they're motherfuck mean. He really don't know. Because even his album, the new album that he got coming out, uh, I don't even, you wise scuddy i think it's like the i think it means like the largest brightest star or something uh what do you think you know what i'm saying what do you what do you expect for the album

for thug ever sure i to say you know him you just know how he come he oh literally yeah i know he walking yeah kean walk he walking you know that one thing i did we didn't talk about this though but one thing i did want to ask uh how did you feel when judge glenville was removed from the case did it give y'all like more hold like oh shit we probably gonna get it out because it seemed like he was tripping on y'all extra hard I don't know

like you feel me like whatever like I don't know there was some politics I don't know where I'm he fed me I know we feel like he was like overly doing it and like being too extra on y'all because that's what the internet consensus was they were saying like he just he just wanted to find y'all guilty on no matter what it was

and it seemed like the white lady judge Whitaker seemed like she was like more understanding and like giving you all more of a fair shot versus like she was kind of fanned up i want to say she's fan shout out jud woulda and the jurors won't bleed that all we appreciate her she got you back on the truth i know it about the jurors and if yeah the jurors they won't about the judge we went to a jury try yeah so what you got cooking up musically and stuff i know you dropped the first one out fair my not am i fair my not i'm not 30 day Probably out 30 someday.

Yeah, I'm just pushing my eye. I'm having all type of shit. Like, man, I did. Fit this, plus on. Now, at that point, got a movie coming out. Everyone out, moving, and the singles just dropped. Yeah.

How are you going about doing a movie? You got someone investing in it, or are you shooting it just with people you know, filming it? Or what's the big of it? People I know feeling. I'm filming myself every day. You feel?

So it's going to be more like a documentary about your life? I learned the game for you. I learned I got a game for y'all Why you said that? Because, like, y'all helped was, like,

and a lot of people don't know but a lot of, like, in turn, everybody don't just be investing this shit, so y'all get people a platform to see what's actually going on.

Yeah. So, that was, like, that's how I learned, you know what I'm saying? Just send down watching this shit, like,

okay, they were going on. This is how you do it. You keep a camera on, like, you know what I'm saying? Also from my label, But it's just like, it worked hand-in-hand on death.

You see yourself being like a podcaster or a streamer or something? Are you more interested in doing like documentary movie type stuff? Man, I'm going to do everything. Podcast, Twitch, I don't know. I mean, everything going on. Podcast, Twitch, fashion, if I'm DJing. I want to be the first person who DJ and do a song. I want DJ myself.

See how they do. How that work. Just go out on stage every night. just DJ and rap at the same time. Is what I'm having a hype, man, though, but, like, you feel? I'm like, yeah, where I started out. You knew you was going to get back to the music as soon as you got out, though? Because for a moment of me, you probably was, like, over it, right?

I were over, because when you speak on using your lyrics and your first amendment, you're like, God damn, man. But the same time, like, I owe it to my supporters. Yeah. The people who fought with me, I owe it to them, you know? have you ever seen a yak in real life some of buffalo the animal

not here I ain't never seen one no way I feel like that should be like on your bucket list of shit you gotta do before you die it's hard just post up a photo of you with a yak

viral they're overly peat them bite come bite them back I don't know point you down I'm biting to the right bit a photo of yak

he's standing next to an actual yak 100,000 likes no problem they're motherfuck sure You just put me down. It's good, yeah.

Yeah. You got to hit it. You got to say, eh. Eh. Eh. And, yeah. Put in, man. Hold the court wrong.

I can't afford any more fuckups because I was just with Bobby Schmurter and they were trying to get me to say Ayo Sig. That's what they say in their hood. I couldn't even figure what the hell of them to say. No game bang. Oh, yeah.

With 50s and say, don't game bang. No, Bobby Schmurter, he's a reformed guy, too. Yeah. I got a few more questions for what we did you all out of here. So what do you? What do you think about the current state of Atlanta music right now?

Atlanta getting that shit back together. You know what I? I think our situation kind of like, you know? Like, because you're using First Amendment. Yeah. It's like. It gets a little tricky now. Yeah, but Atlanta, like, Atlanta going to always be the epidemic.

I feel like they won't always be the way, you know what I'm saying? Because there's so many creators. We down that over-saturated. Like, you see, you got women right from now. women's snapping like this shit real like it's talent I'm telling

I'm telling did you did you ever see Playboy Cardi becoming this this big household name that he is today

yeah Carter Ventrum he's been trim but this is a new this is a different Cardi Cardi's like one of the biggest

rappers in the world right it's it's quite Carter Bentrum I ain't surprised yeah and he'd be into

that school once you've been to this school you know what I'm saying this it's just some it's like some shit

you enroll in like once you've been in this school like he know what he know But what you think Cardi is a student of Thug

Everybody's a student of Thub Right The first young brother Make it out of this shit Like shout out of the first I mean Thug took All the flack All the bullshit

For dressing crazy Doing weird stuff That people weren't used to Etceter And then Cardi Has kind of taken It to another level Everybody's student of

Thoughts one When I ain't just saying That's your home Like that's the home Like, that's the homer. He helped this shit. He, uh, influential. What I always ask people,

what would you put on your Mount Rushmore of Atlanta artists if you had to put four faces? And I want to do two, because Atlanta y'all are known for producers too. So on the rap side, who would you put on the Mount Rushmore? Ooh. I'm going writer. I'm going, geez.

Now you got to give me about five, Twan. We got a lot of them. So who were the first one? I'm going out-kad. All right, Out-Cad. At one. I'm going... Thub for sure.

All right, we got thud. That's two. At one, but that's two. But I'm going... I'm going to be a tilt. All right. I'm going to be a tilt. Tilt.

Like, Tilt, the original, Y and two, Jel. Yeah. You got to see Tilt. Going to go out. what I'm on what I'm on That's for him I'm gonna give you one more On geez

Go on cheese I grew up for Geez it wasn't that big and geez And so there's no reservations about putting Pluto Pluto hold on What you're gonna But Gucci on the list Gucci's not really from there

But he made his mark there Right He didn't go up man But he grew up So what age Man grew up I mean you say the same shit about Gizi Because he from

Oh But he's from Atlanta still But he was wherever he was at Jesus, snow man, man. Got to go snow. All right. So, let me, before that. Pluto.

So that's it. So that's it. I got out here right now. But hold on, hold on. Who you doing the producer side then? If you're doing, is it being that? Oh, shit, man. Top five.

You got to give me about five, six. Because he'd be like, I'm going, brother on the beat. Y'all only know about it. Like, they're going to tell him, but he's just like, okay. I'm going, Zay Tigger. Got to go Zay Tick. Yeah. And I got an on take coming.

Jose Tickin, for sure. Mike Will. For sure, for sure. Uncle on that beat Southside. Silsa? Yeah. I'm one of my favorite producers. Like, God damn, boy, hold on.

Leaving mad niggins off. Nah, you can't, cut you down. You just put me in the awkward, though. But you're saying Atlanta, though. Yeah, if you, if you, the face is up. So on chin, on chin, on chin. You got to go landing. On team.

On the track. Landing, like Atlanta. Like, London grew up, at London Public School, London. Yeah. First. Going wheezing. You feel, I'm going Zay. I'm not wheezy.

Shut, way, way, man. I'm going on a fucking, done deal. Mm. I know about Dunedil. All right. Him, like, apparently other sound. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who I heard growing up?

Who made my partner, them? I think Dan did my partner. Damn, boy It feels with me hard I'm going on my fucking Southside I'm tripping Southside, I'm tricking, southside

Sils them Yeah, yeah, yeah But then you got people like Metro Who migrated and Santa Dilsa That's one name I was looking Sunday, SD My father twin, SD

I went to school on Santa I want to have school What I'm in the school For sure, I want to school, I want to school, chill. Yep, son. Sure, night, son. I went to school.

I went to school. I went. That nigga was living in a man? Yeah. Boy, I know that. Sure night. He'd get around. He had, baby, I'm waiting at them.

And this is the last question I got for you, because I heard you said earlier that you had, you had dipped out of the drug career when the police and shit came. So, uh, recent news, you know, Scooter, a chick had made a phone call and Scooter kind of did the same thing. He got up out of there. But you don't know what's going on. on, like, you just in the situation, like, hey, boy, I forget the hell on. Like, you see guns. You don't see, like, you see guns in black. That was the robber come through.

Yeah. But on that boy, Screet, Screet, the first artist who ever gave me a feature. Oh, word. For free. I ain't never paid for no future, but. Yeah. Laibate for one or, I don't know. I don't, you know what.

Like, Scrooter, man. Scoot was a pioneer out of this shit. Like, Scooter, his name, Screet. Along his street. Didn't Brick say that, too? The Scooters was the first person that ever put him on his album and shit. It's script. He was, like, crazy.

He just tapped in. Like, he just outside. And he ain't even no clue, but no. He's just outside. He's actually on the street. Like, like, a scooter. Like, a scooter. He's on the street.

Like, I'm good. Long enough, man. That's what my favorite was all time. Man, long there, that boy, man. Jewel King. Lonely, that's a little Mexico finding. Now. I'm glad we're following, you know what I'm saying?

Got to get this one in. More definitely, man. Appreciate child, man. Like I told you, I'm a fan of the hour. Like I told you, I'm a foie child. No, no doubt. Do you remember this? All right, so a girl goes viral for looking like days low with a BBL and everybody's

freaking out online thinking that days low of really got a BBL. I end up finding out the girl's Instagram. I hit her up. I say, yo, you should come on the podcast because you're viral right now. She comes on the podcast. We're live. She got, yeah, got he on the phone. From jail.

It just got picked up like a week before. And so I'm thinking this is going to be funny. I'm going to troll this girl. We're going to plug with whatever. And then it turns out she's actually dating the homie. And I'm like, ah, now I don't know. What the hell is. When you don't believe it?

That shit was in my description. They ain't used it. I'm like, how the hell? Why the hell? You feel? Just us on the phone with her? She's on the phone. She's doing the interview with yak.

That was just me pushing. I was just pushing. I was just pushing. I was just pushing. But that was an unreal. That was just like, you hear him. Oh, you're going to, no jump on them. Doing the bro.

Like, put me on the phone. Yeah. I said push. My man. Yeah, I got it, you know. You did. He asked her. He's out there.

For you, man. He's viral. He's in there. Yo, I appreciate you, dog, for real. Most definitely. Excited to see what moves you make. Glad you're back. I'm not going to lie at a certain point.

I was like, damn, that man, that man looked cooked right now. But here we are. I was looking crazy. I figured it out. That was my head to ear, man. They were pure faithful. Like, I ain't. I know, you know. Yeah.

But at the same time, like, I'm going to tell you, let your word to the wild. When you plant your seed, I'm pretty sure nobody ain't see your vision on your vision. Y'all did this shit. But y'all did this shit. Yeah. Yeah, y'all did it.

And I'm pretty sure, like, everybody getting your flower now, or they praise y'all not, but they ain't understand when you were cooking up or what you were cooking. You know what I'm saying? So the whole time, I've been doing all the hell going on to what I'm doing. You feel?

Any words to the kids that look up to y'all and that might be wanting to follow on your footsteps? Be better than me. You know what I'm saying? Like, staying in school. I'm saying? Stay out the way, man. Stay out of trouble, man.

Stay out of this system, for sure. Be better than me, though. I'm saying, like, I always say, man, I'm a sponsor football team. I'm trying to get my non-profit going. What I'm saying? Like, yeah. I'm really doing this shit

And I've been doing it But I'm really gonna do it this time I'm gonna show the world Like I ain't dead what they tried To paint me at You feel? Yeah. I'm a role model And I grew up to some of the wrong

Road model like Bussey But at the same time I'm gonna be the right role model So to the kid You feel? Y'all I always call Uncle Yack Like him, what are we doing? Shit like that

That way Shout out Rimo Shout out by Remo, man. Shout out, Adam 22, the douster. Shout out, yeah, got he. You're saying. We're back at it. Yigdy.

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