No Jumper - YNW BSlime & His Mother Jamie on Melly's Prison Treatment, YSL RICO, King Von & More

Episode Date: January 2, 2023

B Slime is back for a brand new interview, accompanied by his Mom and manager Jamie, with some exclusive details about their journey, their family dynamic, Melly coming home soon, and more. ----- 00:00 Intro 0:05 BSlime hates Durkio's cereal lol 0:50 BSlime on what he remembers from his last interview on No Jumper, teaching Adam about the word "goated" and other Fortnite slang and says Tfue is better than Ninja 3:12 BSlime says his mom chooses his drip for him and discusses how fans will either rock with your music or your aesthetic  5:40 BSlime on being raised off the SoundCloud era and telling his brother not to get a face tats 7:16 BSlime and his mother speak on their family's outstanding support for YNW Melly and say he is coming home soon 10:40 BSlime on YNW Melly making "M*rder on My Mind" 4 years before the actual incident and speaks on fans making guilty accusations 13:21 BSlime and Jamie react to the statements made about the living conditions for Melly 16:53 BSlime says his mom pushing him to do Tik Toks, Tik Tok being really choosy about who they want to ban 19:20 Jamie talks about Broward County Police Officer that left her hand with torn ligaments and accused her of witness tampering 21:30 Jamie says that when Melly comes home they're going to move out of Florida 22:17 BSlime on what life was like after the No Jumper interview, running around with King Von, and his reaction to his passing 24:35 Adam tells BSlime he needs to go to therapy for the series of events he's gone through as a young man 27:03 Jamie talks about her job as a nurse 27:58 Finding himself right now in terms of music, building his own name before Melly comes home 31:09 BSlime only made 1 song with Melly when he was 10 34:23 BSlime and his mother on people turning their back on Melly and how the narrative has changed in the media 36:14 BSlime talks Young Thug and YSL's case 39:24 BSlime says that Lil Nas X coming out, was the best move he could have made for his career 41:36 Adam says that Jack Harlow has the "invincibility cloak" for being the first rapper to have a KFC brand deal  44:23 Ye's character development, his recent media rampage, and the closing of Donda Academy 48:08 BSlime asks Adam how he feels about the Brittney's trade 50:09 BSlime talks new music and if he thinks YNW Melly is going to make him upload his music to Melly's channel 52:04 Jamie talks starting a new series with XXXTENTACION's mother ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No jumper. Coolest podcast in the world. And today I'm in here with the Y&W squad. I got YNWB slime on my left. Again, haven't seen him in like four years. He got absolutely gigantic. And then, of course, we have his beautiful mother, Jamie, in the building as well. What's up?

What's up? How are you guys done? You know what I'm saying? We're chilling. You know what I'm saying? If I were you, I would be freaked out by the fact that the Dirkios are there again. Man, you want me to tell the truth? Yes.

It was bad. It wasn't good at all. But the fact that somehow that has found its way back onto the set and that it hasn't been on camera since that day that you were there, that's kind of trippy. Hey, man, it's just meant to be. It meant to be slime. The Durkio comment was classic.

Durkio's. What's your memory of that interview? Bro, to be honest, it's like I fell asleep and woke up and I was here. but like a key memory from that interview probably when I shouted out my clan you're a Fortnite clan yep yeah you taught me a lot about Fortnite during that interview I don't know why

yeah you let me know all the kids secrets it's gonna f*** up I just was saying earlier though that you taught me the word goaded bro I didn't know about that before that you know it's crazy nobody uses that word anymore damn and I'm so sad okay I'm gonna stop then for sure

That was like goaded. Like 2019 was a time, man. Fortnite was, you know what I'm saying? We used to use word goaded, cracked, one shot. Nobody does that anymore. Yeah, the whole, the big thing on that interview was that you gave Tifu props and you diss Ninja. That was kind of spicy at the time. It's hard to even remember why that was like a thing.

Man, I missed that time. Tifu, ninja. man, people's still better. I'm not gonna love it, no matter what. You actually watch him, though? I don't know who's number one anymore. Nope, none of them are number one anymore. You don't watch Fortnite in general?

Fortnite died, like, in 2021. Fortnite's not a thing anymore. Well, I mean, it's still a thing. It's just not nearly as popular. Man, I knew Fortnite was, like, falling off right after they, like, lowered their prices. Like, it's like $80 for, like, 1,100 V-b bucks now. Really?

And I checked out. I'm like, oh, yeah, y'all. y'all boy struggling for real and get it together feature price going down v bucks price going down it was terrible like i was like you never got into fortnight though right nope i just got the charges i've spoken to a lot of young parents who have had to figure out what the bucks were like what is this what did you buy and it was always a mom let me let me get your car i see don't ever give him your card number right because he will use it yeah i got my own card now though And you reckon ball man?

Is that what this is? Now, he's in Ksubi. What's the shirt set? Or is it? Landvin. Okay, I couldn't see all the other vowels and consonants. My bad. My mom, tell him the word.

How you really say it? Levine. You don't say the first end. You guys are so easily impressed by these business designers, aren't you? Like, oh, the end is silent. It's so cool. To be honest, though, like, to be honest. He didn't like the shirt.

To be honest, I don't really like, you know, designer kind of got forced on me. Like, I don't really like rocking designer. You didn't choose the drip. The drip shows you? No, my mama actually chose it. Your mom chose the drip for you. Yeah, she buys all the designer.

I'd be telling her, yo, you can go, you know, like, you know how to rap her image is supposed to be like, right, right, right. You know, watch this. No. I don't really like. I buy you regular clothes. Sometimes, but it's like, I don't really like, I don't know, like, I don't really like, how do I say this? How do I say this? It's like, I don't really care for a designer.

Like, I'd rather go out. I would rather come to this interview in a polo shirt and some polo sweats and some slides. Okay, but if you dress, like, the way that I'm dressed right now where this is just literally a shirt that somebody gave me at some store one time. Shout out to them. I don't remember. And then plain black jeans and then some, like, $80 sandals. If you're a rapper and you were trying to pull this fit off day after day after day of just rocking like a. free shirt and some playing as jeans.

That sounds like a... I've never seen a rapper really be able to do that consistently. Somebody told me this, right? Somebody told me this. And they said, as an artist, they either rock with your aesthetic or they rock with your music, right? When they rock with both,

and you just shoot to the top, but I felt like I kind of like gravitated towards trying to get people to rock with my music more than my aesthetic, which is kind of an issue when I think about it now. But I don't really care. No, I think it's smart in the long run, but I also just wonder to what extent, you know, because, like, you could be a guy who goes to work in the office every day and just wear a plain-ass shirt,

playing-ass pants, nobody will ever fucking think about it. But as a rapper, it's like you almost need to make yourself stand out in a way. That's why we lived through the face tattoo era. Yeah. Where everyone needed face tattoos or else you weren't even a rapper. I remember that. I remember watching all your interviews in, like, 2017, 2018, everybody who came on had the craziest face tattoos. Yeah.

And kids were getting signed off face ads, for sure. Yeah. The SoundCloud era. I miss it. The clout rap era. You missed that? No. Music was like, there was only like a couple good artists that broke from that era,

but it was like, music was like, I was looking at it. I'm like, yo, oh no, what is this? Like, you know, it's crazy. But that's the era that raised you, my friend. Right? I mean, yeah, because I didn't really listen to like all like the old school rappers. I really just grew up listening to like my brother. and ex.

So like, listen to them artists kind of push me into the artist that I am. But it's also like, when you interview my brother and he had those face tats, we told him not to get them face tats. Really? Mm-hmm. We told him don't get them face tats. Especially this one. She said, no, don't get them face tides.

But in like 20s. Because he has a nice face. Right. But in 2017, when Melly was like first coming up or whatever, I mean, number one, like in the streets or whatever, like, face tattoos are super popular. And the rap shit, same shit. It's like everybody, at that time, every rapper that Mellie was looking at, from low psalms with smoke perp to whoever.

Like, not to say he was looking up to them, but every rapper he was looking at, period. They're all having face tattoos. I'm sure it seemed like a pretty easy decision. Yeah, he did that. It was whatever. It's like a cool way of making yourself look permanently ugly. I don't think I don't think I'm going to ever get face tattoos. But I'm going to get, like, a tattoo.

staring at his hand what are you going to get on your hand next to the Bucca shell necklace or bracelet I don't know the idea that I had was like I was going to get the world

and put Y and W in it and then put like roots going down like my arm and put like my family names like that I've always rocked with that's what so yeah so okay this is my question

is let's just fast forward to the future I saw you guys holding signs outside of the jail on Christmas and stuff. I'm going to be real with you. I've seen a lot of people catch nasty cases throughout my time doing this, and I've seen very, very few families show the kind of support that you guys do. Man, at the end of the day, bro, that's, you know what I'm saying?

I don't know how to explain it. Like, that's just family, bro. Like, no matter what, no matter what, everybody who don't switch their time of their bad, lost faith. We're family. Like, we never going, never. Because at the end of day, this is, you know, we built this all together. And if one person get locked up, we're going to support them until they come out. Right.

And when they come out, we're still going to continue to support them. But something like the Christmas thing, whose idea was that? It was like, it was kind of like a group decision. Okay. But it was my mom's birthday, and she said, I want to see my son. So we said, he doesn't have his cell phone privileges. He doesn't have his secure as calls. The only way we can see him is going to the jail.

So we wrote on signs, Merry Christmas. And I found this window. You were able to tell. We almost got in trouble, actually, for finding the window because it was some black police officer. He was like, the first guy was cool, you know what I'm saying? He wasn't tripping. He wasn't tripping. But then the other guy came.

So black police saw him, he's like, no, you guys got to leave this restricted area, this trustvas. But the other guy was like, yeah, like, you can see him. I know what you guys are here. Just stand on the sidewalk and do it because we got to come through here. And the other guy made them boys wait until he left. And I was like, yeah, y'all weird. I don't know what police be on. You tripping.

But I saw a clip online that said. like Y NW. Melly like banging on the bars to itself like film from like a million miles away that's not real right or is it? Oh the one like a couple years ago? It was a while ago.

If you know, you know. If you know you know. Because I guess you could know which cell it was. If you know you know. But you can't see shit in the clip so I was just gonna... If you know you know, you know

if you were there, you were there. If you weren't there, you never know. Right. But what, okay, what, what, what makes you know? you still feel like it's on you to go so hard for your son in a situation where so many people it seems like kind of do the least i feel like you guys are doing the most and at the end of the day bro i look at it like this right all these other people who were around when melly was coming up

you know what i'm saying they're family they're not family at the end of day that's blood like that's my first born we came from the same i'm always i'm always riding him i'm always be right by his side letting him know that I'm here. I love you. Whether you can hear my voice or not, because he still don't got phone privileges. But him knowing, like, I'm not just out here living my best life.

Like, I'm hurting every day that he's locked up in there. Like, I think about him every day. Yeah, like, it's so common for people to just move on so quickly. And it's like you two are the two people who just really can't move on. You have to hold him down. You have to be the one still trying to make noise about it.

But is that a conscious thing? Ain't moving on because he's about to come home. soon but it's just like on some like a lot of this nigga don't been locked up for like almost four years coming up so it's like you know a lot of people lose faith after that I mean it's insane four years is crazy and to have like the police basically like doing PR on behalf of the prosecution you know and like constantly kind of putting that narrative out there and meanwhile you guys are pretty reserved in terms of like what you can say about it right yeah it's like the PR you know the PR for the police they basically try to paint that he

guilty without saying that he's guilty. But like, if you really like, you know, I never, I always keep my tongue shut about it because you know what I'm saying. I'm an artist myself too. I can't really say too much. But it's like, bro, to all like the fans and stuff who look at this situation and be like, he's guilty. He wrote a song about it.

If y'all just like go read the black and whites, it tells the story itself. The song was like three years before the situation. That song was four years. I mean, for starters, that song was written like before I even met him. So before he had like basically any level of popularity. At all. But it's also like they try to say, oh, he got 66 pages of DNA. I'm like, do y'all niggas really like read what's going on?

Because if y'all like, if y'all just look at the, you know what's going to be like, oh, that's crazy. But he's got to really read what's going on. But isn't it weird how people seem so eager to throw your brother into the guilty bucket? Because the world. But those same people were willing to give Tori Lane. infinite benefit of the doubt, you know? Like, they were willing to totally entertain all kinds of conspiracy theories and stuff.

And I'm not asking you guys to, like, agree with the Toy Lane's thing or whatever. But in terms of Melly, it's like, why is everybody so on board with it? I guess it's because there's not really like a counter narrative that we've really seen yet that presumably we're going to see when it goes to trial. Okay.

And that's basically how his team works. It's, you guys see when we go to trial. It's basically like, the reason why people are so quick, it was so quick to put Melly in that guilty bucket because it's like, okay, look, 2019 when he first got locked up, a lot of people was like, oh yeah, he's not guilty,

free Melly, free Melly. But then the more that we kept our mouth shut, the more that we didn't say nothing, and the more that, like, the blogs and stuff kept pushing out that motive, like, oh, they just found this and they got that, and they got this, and they got that. It just makes it look like, I don't know, man.

Because the Toy Lane shit was kind of the opposite where his defense was putting shit out into the media all through, about the months and years that led up to the case. And then once it actually went to trial, the jury wasn't convinced. And it turned out that whatever the court of public opinion was saying didn't really matter. Whereas this situation kind of feels like the opposite, where it's like we're probably going

to find out a ton of different shit when it goes to trial. And meanwhile, we've had four years of like nothing. Yeah. And all I got to say is, bro, if you know, you know, like, you just got to read. Y'all niggas went to school. Just read, bro. Like, if you really want to know what's up, just read the black and white. You'll see everything.

Nobody lies on black and whites, bro. Right. So the statement that came out on Mellie's Instagram a couple weeks ago or a month ago or whatever, like a long-ass statement basically about the treatment that he's been enduring within the jail and having his phone privileges taken away, not being able to speak to you guys,

not being able to speak to his lawyers, et cetera, basically just making it out to be like, you know, obviously jail's not supposed to be a great experience but making it out to be like truly, humane. How did that statement come about, like, and I'm not sure if you guys, how much you could say, but like, what made things rise to the occasion where that statement felt like it had to be issued? It was just months of going on. Like, we had a hearing, and the judge basically said, like, he can't do anything when it comes down to the jail. The jail has their own rules. They make

their own rules. So even though, like, you know, he has, they're violating his constitutional rights, like to be able to have phone calls and have any kind of contact with the public, with his family, like outside of the jail. Like, we don't know if he's eating, if he's not, if he's good or what. Like, we just don't know nothing. And it's like he's in the county. Like, he's not in no prison. A lot of people keep saying that is so annoying.

He's not in prison. He's at the Brower County jail. He hasn't went to trial yet. So he's just sitting. What's the main thing that we're waiting on for him to go? to trial? So basically the death penalty had you know. Right, they're still debating that.

That's the whole reason. Like we're still debating on like there. Well, they're still debating like the Supreme Court and everything. They're still debating on if he should get the death penalty or not. So that's what we're really doing. Or if that should be included in the trial. It should be included when we go to trial. So we're basically trying not to go to trial with the death penalty on. So it's just

we're just waiting. And then now the holidays have come. And so nothing's open. And it's just more time. And it's just more time and more time. Wow. And I mean, so you, when would you say you think seems likely that the trial could start or that this whole death penalty thing could be resolved? Probably, I'm, thinking February or March. Really? It's supposed to be relatively soon? Yeah, it's supposed to be the first of the year. Wow. So within the first three to four months of the year. Right. And so, but him putting that statement out, I mean, how did that message get to whoever's operative?

his Instagram. I don't know. Because he doesn't have access to the phone, right? Was he able to write a letter? He writes letters. So he probably, most likely he like wrote or like, I don't run his Instagram. Really?

No. Okay. Is the label or management or something? Yeah, he has like management and the label and stuff like that, but yeah. Damn. That's terrible. But he still doesn't have phone privileges.

Nothing's changed since that statement by public? I still haven't spoke to my son. Damn. How long has it been? Like, spend a few months. I actually got to talk to him for like probably three minutes on Thanksgiving. Really? So.

And he was just randomly able to get access to the phone? Yeah, and he like called. What's that? You know a little Fortnite dance over here? What is that? We chilling. I don't know. it really did seem like something

about a Fortnite dance. I don't know specifically. Maybe like a TikTok thing. Like you all I was saying? This one is the one. We're trying to force him to do TikTok. He needs to get more involved with TikTok with his new project dropping. Tick-Tock. You're not feeling it?

No, bro. Tick-Tick-Tac is like, bro. I posted my brother's message that he, like everybody wanted to post. I posted it, bro. They took it down. TikTok took it down at the appeal it to get it put back up. And I'm just looking like, bro, y'all got people posting, like, gore and, like, porn on your ass. No, like, literally, like, no, like, real, like, porn. You got to send me a link to that because I haven't seen a lot of it.

You're not supposed to be able to post real porn. On December, on December 22nd of 2022, bro, if you were on TikTok that day, bro, that just showed you how much, like, TikTok does not care about their platform, bro. There was gore. Like, bro, I was on TikTok. bro, there was a woman holding, like, photographed holding a, like a child's dead head, like a decapitated head of a child. And then there was a man, his face was blurred. He had an axe.

He swiped to the next slide. The axe was bloody and he's holding a child's head. And then it was just a lot of, like, old gore, like, that surfaced over the years. And I was like, yo, I'm seeing all this because I'm, like, scrolling. I'm like, yo, I just delete the app. And then TikTok finally got it in control. But that really comes because they don't have a lot of control. control over their slideshow. It's crazy.

The stuff that they, like I had a girl in here yesterday who had a million followers and she lost her account because she called another girl a whale. Wow. Wow. Yeah. Just whale? Whale? I mean, there's a lot more to a whale than just being fat, right? No, it is. You're fat.

She could have had a spout. I don't know. I mean, realistically, it was probably a fat thing, but I'm still like, is this how, you could lose your account with a million followers for calling a person a whale one time? man that's wild i was talking i was talking to somebody in the back like my friend was on live i was talking to somebody in the back and i said nigger bro his on tic-tac yeah i heard i heard that doesn't go well his live got terminated in this account got banned and i was like i'm black

what's the issue your friend lost his whole account for you saying that in the background i'm talking to somebody i'm like yeah i got people posting gore on here bro that's insane i don't do tic-to-much too much You don't? You stay out of social media in general? No, I'm on social media. Okay. Just Instagram, though?

Mostly Instagram. Yeah, you know. What happened to your hand? Oh, so. You get a little scrapper or something? No. Actually, a police officer did it. How?

When? I told her I'm in hand therapy for it. Yeah. But where, what was the encounter with the police over? Yeah, they were trying to, you know. Was this at the jail? No, this was not. It was like some other stuff.

She's not going to say it, but, you know, this is more like if you know, you know the situation. But basically, Broward police had a warrant out for her phone. They tried to do an illegal search. They grabbed her hand, twisted it, tore some ligaments in her hand. And then they did an illegal search and they did. It's all going to come out because we're going to court for it. This was at your house? No, this is while she was being.

At the courthouse. She was being questioned. or something like that for another case that kind of branched off from my brother's situation. Right. And then, it's just, if you know, you know, like, it's all bull crap. But is this the situation where they're accusing him of having put a hit out on you? No. There's a whole separate case.

This is a witness. This is a witness tampering. Oh, there's another case. Yeah, they came after me. I had, I don't know why. I'm like, I am a mom and work full time as a nurse. Like, I have nothing to do with. nothing, but this is what they're doing four years later.

Now they're attacking the mom. What the fuck? Like, I was blown. I'm like, what? But how much tampering did they think that you could have done? Or were they saying that you spoke to somebody on the outside or something like that? Something like that. But then it turned out like it was all lies and not proven and everything, but you already

assaulted me for no reason because you wanted to take my phone. Like, that was crazy. Wow. Yeah. Do you feel like the local police and everything just have like a real, vendetta against you and your family just because of his success and everything? Yeah. I feel like it's so public and they've done so many things in this case.

It's like kind of wrong. And when I first met Mellie and I was talking to him about the cops in that area, he made it perfectly clear. He said, they are out to get me. Yeah. You know, like just from day one, he made that perfectly clear. And I remember being like, you got to get the fuck out of there. Yeah.

And I wish you had done that a little earlier. When he comes home, we are definitely. you probably not living in Florida. Right. Like, I love Florida, but we got to find somewhere else that's warm. I just know I can't, I don't want to live up north. Like, because what they're going through up there with the snow and the... Oh, hell no.

Yeah. I'm not cut out. And the police and Brow had always been like that, though. Yeah. They're very, they're very racist, like, black and white cops. It don't matter. Like, they're just very racist, very racist, no matter what. Right. So do you just, you're just staying out the way or, like,

What has your life been like since the interview? Because it felt like for a little while did you take a backseat with the music and sort of chill out for a period? So basically, after that interview is crazy. I did the genius interview. I did that interview. I was moving around with Vaughn.

I was doing my own thing. I dropped my project. And then 2020 rolls around quarantine happens. I can't do no shows. I was doing interviews from home. Went out with Vaughn. This is like October 28th. I'm out with Vaughn.

We out in L.A. we chat you know what I'm saying boom November bro the man was supposed to be at my house I think we left Friday what was it November 4th we left November 4th he was supposed to come like to Sunday dinner was supposed to play basketball he's supposed to come to Sunday dinner

and then you know I love you gang see you later boom boom we have one of flight come back November 5th he gets shot November 6th the Sunday he dies and like I feel like that You know, I was so young that I didn't really get the process it right. And everybody was just putting so much pressure on me to make music that I just backed away. Like, you know, I had a lot going on as a kid.

So I just backed away for a little bit. And then like, 2021 I wanted to come back and like make music for me. Because when I step back, bro, I step back for a while, bro. Like, you can ask anybody around me, bro, from 2020, November through all that time to until I drop city trends, there was no music. Right. Nothing. Like, I was just sitting in my room, playing video games, and just chilling, trying to, like, get over everything.

You met Vaughn through track? Bro, we don't know Vaughn since, like, Melly Day when he turned 20. Like, bro, we've known Vaughn. Like, Vaughn, like, Vaughn is family. With Vaughn knew Melly back then? Yeah. He used to come to Melly Day. He used to come to Melly Day.

He used to come to Melly Day. He used to come to Christmas dinner. every Sunday dinner Thanksgiving Christmas like bro me and this man used to sit on the phone for like hours a day just talking about his case

and like everything for no reason I'm like a 12 year old kid at this time he's just talking to me right that was my real life brother like it was deeper than music like how people tried to make a scene

because me and him don't got a lot of pictures and all that bro that was my real brother like I considered him a brother damn and I mean just you being so young and you know

you're living your whole life and you're just a normal fucking kid and you don't know any celebrities or have any kind of like you know big time shit going on and then all of a sudden your brother hits it big and that must have seemed amazing and you know your career gets off the ground and everything and then he gets locked up and then meanwhile like okay you're you're also spending time of vaughn and then he gets killed i mean this is like serious traumatic shit that like a lot of the the strongest male role models that you had in your life are just experiencing terrible fates It was like, I didn't really, like, see it until I got older.

People were like, you need to go to therapy, bro. I'm like, I don't even know therapy. Like, I'm chilling. Like, at the end of the day, I feel like you get through anything and everything with your ways of grieving. I feel like therapy is just not what I need. Nah, you got to go to therapy. Then I just started, I just started locking you. You're going to therapy.

Because let me tell you something. There's nobody that you could talk to in your life the way that you're going to be able to talk to a good therapist. Because when you talk about your feelings to your mom, you have to clean up the shit that you tell her, right? Because you can't just be 100% honest with her or one of your friends. You can't be 100% honest with them

because they know you and like you don't necessarily want to be as vulnerable as possible. Therapy is like, especially having dealt with all the shit that you've been through when you're sitting there on therapy for an hour

and they do it over Zoom calls and shit these days so it's super fucking convenient but just having somebody where you can just dump out all your emotions without having to feel any kind of like shame or fear.

It's very valuable. That's my honest opinion. Agreable and disagreeable. You know, I just be chilling, bro. I just like music. I don't know. My life revolves around music.

I don't really like the business part or the industry or anything like that, but I just really like music. I'm just saying your music will get better the more you understand what's going on inside your mind. And you've got a lot of shit going on inside your mind. I guarantee it because I know you're not an idiot and because the shit that you've been through is fucked up shit that most people, 99% of people

do not go through the stuff that you've already been through in your life. That's real. There's a lot of exploring to do. Just my advice. I think it's great advice. I told him he's going to therapy. Well, have you pursued that at all? What?

Yeah. Really? Yeah. Being a little older, it's probably more normalized for you, right? Yeah, and I mean, I work in a medical field, so I'm very open to therapy. Right. Definitely. Has it been hard to keep going work-wise, just given the extent to which so much of this stuff is probably weighing on you?

She's a dead body. that's a good point a lot because I work in the ICU damn oh yeah but I mean it actually me going to work

is like it's weird it may sound it's my piece because when I'm home I'm constantly thinking about like my son what's going on with him what's going on with the case

if he if Brandon's okay what's going on with his music what's the next move you know so it's like I'm always always busy and then like I started managing artists too so it's like

I be at work, I'm just normal. Don't nobody know, like, really my outside life outside work. They just know I'm a nurse. That must be good. I separate the two. Definitely. For sure. Okay, so in terms of, like, where you feel like you're at with your music and career now,

like, how would you describe it? It feels like you're doing a lot of love songs. How's that heart doing? Bro, right now, bro, I just feel like I'm in that state where, I feel like I'm finding myself again with music and what sound I want to create because, you know, like, Melly's coming home real soon this time,

like, actually, and, like, from there is no time to do anything because, you know, like, you know, like, I all got time to do nothing. So right now I'm just, like, building my project and building everything for me. So when he comes home, it's not like I'm just Melly's little brother anymore.

I have my own name. So I feel like right now, I'm just like, I'm just doing me, just building me. And yeah, you're going to, You're going to see in the next, like, I'll say, five to six months how everything plays out. Really? Okay. Who are you working with musically?

Are you just working alone at this point? I'll say, bro, they're not really, like, big people. I'm not working with no big artists. Like, I'm just working with myself and, like, my friends, like, snow banks, Israel, Izzy. With producers, bro. I don't really know. Like, I really just be with Evergreen, like, people like that. They're my real dogs.

I was telling my people. Because right now I'm not really focused on, like, no big, big features. Like, I'm just trying to rebuild, like, rebrand and rebuild myself to get everything that I want the way I want to be done. Why do you have to rebrand? Because when you came out, you were so fucking young that it's like, you're still that young in a lot of people's minds? Yes, exactly.

Like, when I came out, bro, I was literally like 11, bro. Yeah. Like, I stepped back. I stepped back. I came back out, and I'm like 15 now. So it's like, I don't necessarily want to get rid of that baby goat because I'll forever be the baby goat. I don't care. Like I love being a baby goat.

But it's like, you know, people got to grow up, bro. Because if I keep that baby girl image forever, kids grow up. I'm trying to expand to like people your age. Right. You're old. Old as shit. Yeah. No, but I mean, that's like a weird thing to think about because some people like, some people, people just love them when they're like 12 and then all of a sudden they're 16 and people just kind of like lose interest.

So it's like, and it's like that with like artists sometimes. It's like that with like models and shit. You'll see like an actor or an actress that like they're just like a really good looking 10 year old and they have this like great mute. Okay, not like that. People like the way they look when they're young and then they get a little bit older and everybody just loses interest somehow. Yeah. I don't know. It happens like, bro.

And then his voice change. I can name a handful of artists that happened to. But like me, bro is like, I just didn't like. Like, bro, I lost complete, like, my brother had to talk to me. That's how bad it got, because I lost complete interest in music. Like, after Vaughn died, after so many people were dying around me, then my brother in jail, I don't got him for, to give me no motivation, bro. He gets timed phone calls.

He can't talk to me the way he wants to talk to me. You know what I'm saying? So you got, I got nobody at this point, you know what I'm saying? Except my mom, I got nobody to tell me to keep going. Why would I keep going? But were you, like, how much? music did you actually make with Melly? Or did you start making music after he...

The only song that I made with this man when he was out of jail was one step. Right. That was the only song we ever made and we were messing around. Just because you were at the very beginning of making music? Has most of your music making time been apart from him? I was 10 making that song

bro. And we were just messing around bro. We was just doing us. That's when music was like fun. It was just chilling. And then he went to jail. then they gave me the dying for you song and I didn't even want to do it for real because it's like, feel fake.

I was like, I'm gonna do it anyways. What, they gave you a verse that he had already recorded? Yeah, they gave me a hook, a hook and a verse that he had already recorded and like, bro, it's not how this is supposed to be done. But I'm already knowing that. We're gonna do it again.

Like, bro, me and my brother, but we got a real plan. Like, when he come home, we got a real plan. Like, you're gonna see in the next five to six months. If everything plays out the way it's supposed to play out in court and the way it's supposed to play out,

in the industry, bro. We're going to be unstoppable. How would you say you feel with the trial coming up? Are you just like nervous? To be honest, bro. To be honest, bro.

Bro, like, my brother's... It's like... It's like... Hard to explain. It's winnable, bro. Like, his case, bro, is really, really winnable to all circumstantial evidence,

but like... Bro, like, his like... I'm just say it, bro. His defense team is like... Ah. It's like, I don't know how to explain it. Like... Bro, like, people just got to do their job.

That's all I got to say, bro. So you're confident in his defense? I am. Yeah. I would assume that he spent a lot of fucking money on lawyers, like an amount that would probably... That kid spent a lot of money on a lot of things that shouldn't have been spent on.

Really? Like, what else? And cars, jewelry. And he's not even out to wear the jewelry. I'm like, why are you buying jewelry? You're not here to wear the jewelry. No, definitely lawyers are probably the best thing you can spend money. That's what I, bro.

But he's good with lawyers, bro. Like, money isn't an issue for lawyers. Like, he's fine. But it's just like, it was a lot of stuff that should have went to lawyers that he didn't spend on lawyers. And I'm like, bro. And now it's like, he don't even want the chain no more. I'm like, bro. I'm like, bro.

Yeah. I'm like, bro. A chain that's like four or five years old from a rapper's perspective. Yeah. He's like, oh, that one. It's an old chain. I'm like, bro, you spent $150,000 on this chain. Where the chain?

Nah, I'm not going to wear one. I'm gonna get a bigger one. But if he had been free this all the time, there's no way in hell he would be wearing that chain, right? Because it's like, he would have upgraded his jewelry five times. You remember that chain I wore it rolling out? That one that with the big world and it was spinning?

That's the one we're talking about? Yeah. He don't want that chain anymore. I'm like, bro, that chain is huge. Like, bro, he's big on my chest. You don't want it no more. But that's some real rich rapper shit is that whenever, you know, rappers are always like get their chain snatched and get it back

and then be like, I don't want that chain anymore. Because it's like that, that was just a moment in the life. So now I got to move on. With Melly, I could understand him being like, no, that was from before my case. All my jewelry was going to be new because that shit reminds me of what happened with the case and everything. I already know, bro, and that's just how his mind. He thinks he's a very creative person. Very creative person.

Yeah, definitely. Who turned their back on him? You said the people kind of turn their back. If you know, you know. That's my favorite word to say. If you know, you know. Right. But what do you feel like certain people were supposed to have been doing for him?

I wouldn't say so much as people turn this back on. I was just like I'd notice more that whenever someone posts his Melly or he's trending in the media, it used to be like free Melly, free Melly, like more positive comments. Like, and I try not to read the comments because they will really ruin your day. Yeah. They're ruining your fucking day. And they, my bad for cursing. No, it's fine. Yeah, like so now I notice a lot of the comments are more negative, more like, oh, he did this.

oh he made a song about it and this and that so like that jump beat well i just look at them people like they're all consumers everybody who thinks like that is sometimes out of ten a consumer right you know the consumer is right well pretty much everybody's a consumer not everybody of content of music of media you know but it's like yeah i mean they're they don't have any skin in the game you know if he gets locked up all mely is to them as somebody who maybe was going to write more songs that they would like. So to them it's like very easy to be like fuck this guy. And it's just easier for people to sort of like cast judgment on somebody

rather than to sort of be invested in their cause, right? That's the world, bro. Yeah. That's just the world for you. That's always how I've seen. It's like, that's the world, bro. Because at the end of the day, these people glorify us and they glorify melly and they glorify these rappers.

Then these rappers get put in a situation, they glorify them for the first year. And if they don't make it out that situation in the first year, they de-glorify them, and they put that glory on somebody else. You know what seems, it's not exactly the same, but it feels like, it's kind of like that with the thug thing, too, where thug is like everybody's favorite rapper. Yeah, bro, look, right now. Everybody's screaming free thug right now.

But are they? It feels like that that's kind of dissipated. Yeah, I feel like, bro, like, it goes like this, bro. Everybody's scream free thug, everybody's scream free thug. One negative thing comes out about his case. Our thug's gone. He's not getting out. What, bro?

Let the case. play out. But to be fair, there's like 10 people who've taken a pleading else. It doesn't look great. A thug straight, bro. Free thug for sure. Free thug. It just, as time goes by, it just becomes kind of harder and harder for people to imagine

that there's a happy ending to this for him. I just look at it like, you got a great lawyer, bro. You're straight. You got great lawyers. You're good. Right. You could beat anything with good lawyers. Right.

So you're on good terms with the other B-Slam? from YSL? Oh, bro. I never had a conversation with him. Oh, okay. At first I was looking like, who and I'm like, oh, B-sline, bro. I never, like, had a great conversation. Like, I don't really know him, but I never really care.

Like, we're cool, bro. Right. You Y-Sil. We should do a B-slime and B-Sline. That'll be hard. I'll definitely do it. They need that. I think there was a period of time where I thought that you were Y-Sel, and then I realized

they was talking about somebody else. I remember when they released the, um, I remember when they released the, um, The album, like the album, like the, what's the, what's the word for the album? Compilation or what was it? What's the word for the album? Like how like how X had members only and then how. His collective? Yeah, like a collective album.

Right. And they put how my brother was on the B. Slime song, like the really B. Slime song. Bro, I got tagged at the bottom. They didn't even tag him. Bro, they tagged me. They tagged me. And every time I did an interview, they was like, what is it like working with? thug and I'm like bro that's not me on the song

I was like yo everybody was like bro you got a thug feature on the thug song in my discord and everything bro what these y'all what these y'all niggas talking about wow and the whole time man I don't know that's hilarious but uh you ever been around them who thug the slimes I've only been around him once and I was like at a studio and I was like

12 and like bro that dude talks a lot Like, it gets to a point where, like, if he starts talking, bro, he's going to talk your ear off. Thug? Yes. Just sitting there. I'm just sitting there listening. That's a viewpoint I'm trying to hear, though. I hate small talk, and I hate people who just ramble to me.

But I'll pretty much just let Young Thug talk about whatever. Yeah, bro. He's just, like, talking. But that was my impression of when I interviewed him was basically, like, holy shit, this. Like, because he said multiple things that were, like, clearly mega viral during my interview with him. but I also just realized, like, he has no idea. Like, he said some shit about, like, Lil Nasak shouldn't have come out of the closet

because people are going to judge him or yada yada. And, like, but, like, the way he said it, it just wasn't obvious that he was saying, like, he shouldn't come out the closet. Or he was basically just saying that he felt like Lil Nasak shouldn't have came out of the closet because it would make his career harder or whatever. And it was so obvious to me as somebody who's, like,

super media literate, how that was going to be spun. And we didn't do it. We put the interview out. and then fucking complex whoever else they all took the little quote and ran with it you know but young thug is just saying whatever the fuck comes to his head and he is not thinking about how people are going to take it at all on a little nice day situation bro the way the media is set right now bro that was the best thing he could have did like the way that's gay bro the way the media is set right now and the way that everything how it is right now bro i was like one of the best moves for

his career but then he just came out and said that actually he has a kid you know what i'm saying Is that real? Like, I just seen that. I was like... It's all, bro. I'm never confident that he's not trolling. He's the king of gimmicks, bro. He's just good at the whole marketing side of things.

He really is. And then he'll drop us on. Like, he'll do something and he'll go viral and trending and he'll drop something. He just said he got a kid, right? He said he got a kid. But he's probably about to drop a crazy visual. Where he's pregnant or something. Yeah, like how he did with the Montreal album, bro.

He was pregnant. Then he had the baby and it was the album. Right And like When he went to jail For whatever He went to jail For everybody

Thought he actually Got arrested The whole time It was the industry baby Or when he had the The blood in the shoes Oh yeah There's been so many things like this

And then he released Call Me By Your Name video When he was twirking on the devil And he had all the fucking Hot buff dudes Dancing in the video and stuff That pissed off every fucking gangster That I know

They're all mad as fuck about that I didn't see that one Yeah It was pretty crazy I seen the one where they're on Twirking in the shower though Yeah I was like

You weren't fucking with it It's whatever bro. I was just like, I wonder why Jack Harlow wasn't in that scene. Probably trying to keep his image free from that. Hey, but you see how Jack Arlo

was the only one with a female in that video? He wanted to make sure that people knew. See, that's how rock with Jack Harlow, bro, I rock with Jack Harlow. He's smart. He must have a smart team too. Yeah. You could be in the gay guys video,

but you've got to make it clear you're not gay. At least in some small way. He was the only one with a female. Right. Only one. Jack Harlow, I feel like, has the invincibility cloak because a white rapper getting a signature KFC meal before any black rapper. I'm sorry. Doesn't that seem like something that would like be really controversial?

Right. But nobody cares because everybody likes Jack Harlow. They're like, all right, fuck you. He's from Kentucky. I mean, it did make sense, to be honest. But yeah, I was a little surprised by that. But more power to him, you know? He's a hard, he's hard to. dislike. Yeah. Yeah. I'd just be thinking it's crazy that like you say one thing wrong on these interviews you're canceled. No, you're a young rapper dude. No, I'm not talking about me. I'm not talking about me now. I'm not talking about me. I'm just talking about like rappers in general. I'm just saying rappers get more freedom to say crazy shit on camera than like pretty much anyone. Yeah, for sure. People like really let a rapper say some homophobic shit, some racist shit. And it's like they really have to

go far with it before they really like I don't know I just see rappers getting a longer leash than most people that's because a lot of these gangster gangster you're a tick to and you like say something homophobic oh you're done for you are done done done really so ticotokers and YouTubers you think they get

like oh no they get the same treatment because they have a more woke fan base I think whereas the average rap fan I mean the rappers are literally like you know I pull up and spray up the Some shit like that. Ticktokers doesn't get to say that. With a 30 glock.

Yeah, that. Got 100 shots. We're going to hit your top. A million views. Yeah. A million views. So I go, though. Because with, like, TikTokers, though, like, they be doing dances, then they get on YouTube,

and then they do this and that. So it's still a point where it's like, push. They got gay fans. Exactly. You're like. Rappers don't have a lot of that. Less. I wouldn't say that.

I feel like rappers have less sensitive fans. True. And rapers. Fans literally like rappers because of the fact that they're boorish and obnoxious and fucking over the top and stuff. Very gangster and got a lot of face tats. If Harry Stiles said the shit that the baby said on stage are rolling loud, and the babies canceled for it too, but for Harry Styles, oh, it would be over.

Look at all this shit they let Kanye get away with before they finally were like, all right, you got to get out of here, man. Because were you around Kanye when Melly shot that video, or was that before you started really rolling with him like that? Nope. I've never met Kanye. Still rocking your Yeezies? It's a little tough even for you now.

And I still rocked the slides. Do you think you got a little out of pocket there? I don't even know what he said. It's a lot of stuff. I'm not going to even, like, reiterate it because I want to drag you into it. I didn't really pay attention to it. That was a lot. A lot of stuff.

It was above him. Some of the things. My mom was thinking she was so smart. I was like, what are you talking about? But she was talking about like, Kanye's so smart what he's saying. He's trying to get out of his Adidas deal and then make his own easy brand and branch off.

Wow, black power. Then two weeks later, she's like, oh, he's driven. No, it was a very inspiring story for a long time. Yeah, but now he's like, but I feel like Kanye could drop an album and be back on. I don't know. I feel like Kanye would have to really repent. Well, the main thing.

things was that he said some very disrespectful stuff about George Floyd, basically acting like George Floyd died of fentanyl overdose and not from being choked. He also said that he liked Hitler, that he didn't have anything against the Nazis. Obviously, there was the slavery was a choice thing back in the day. That seems kind of small in comparison to a lot of this other stuff. I'm not going to lie, bro. That sounds like a Discord general chat. I'm not going to lie. Yeah, that's probably probably the problem. You don't take those Discord general chats out into the public. So whatever he said, if he said anything that's worse than that, bro.

It's also like he's associating himself with a lot of, like, the people on his campaign. There's this dude, Nick Fuentes, who a lot of people will call him a white nationalist. What is that? A racist. Oh, wow. Not a huge fan of black people, basically, but you know, Kanya

hired him. But now Kanye's been missing for weeks, allegedly. And I think Kanye's trying trying to figure out a way. He's probably making an album, like a hard album. It doesn't feel like he's making a of music. I feel like he's doing anything but make music. Never know, man. Or maybe design clothes.

He's doing one and the other. I heard they tried to shut down like the Donda school. I'm like kids go to school here. I think that happened. I just look at it like, bro, like don't drag the kids into this. People got to transfer and go to different schools now because y'all want to be crazy on the A-N-N-I would say that the real error

occurred when those parents took their kids out of a regular school and put them in the Donda Academy. Like that was the problem. I feel like every kid who went to the Donda Academy was more like a clout thing like I go to dawn to us Yeah I heard a lot of stories about like high profile YouTubers actors and stuff who their kids were in there

Like the Ace family their kid was there At least one of them Yeah like what the fuck are you doing Put your kid in a regular school bro Like you're letting a rapper run a school Will there be Y&W Academy one day? No I'm not gonna lie nobody in Y&W

I struggle with his homeschool okay Nobody on Y&W is smart enough to run a school At all How dare you say that about your mother? I know. I teach you. I had a tutor. I would allow her to educate my child if she didn't live in Florida.

Thank you. We need a babysitter. I'm a great babysitter. You do it. And I know CPR. You can do it over Zoom. Just set the laptops off. Bye, Parker.

Don't touch that. Yeah, just yelling at him. Stop it. No, but, oh my God. We have our house so. well baby proof now. We got these new door handles that the kid can't open.

How tall is she? I think she's probably tall of her age. 6-8, yeah. Because she looks tall, but you both are kind of tall. She is. She's like top 99 percentile for her age.

Yeah. Which I'm very proud of. She's definitely trying to open doors and open all the cabinets. Yeah, I'm actually plotting a WMBA run. Definitely. I think she's got a dinner. Starter at four.

I'm going to make sure she does bring any weed pens overseas, though Britney Garner Free! What is you talking about? How do you feel about that trait? I don't think Biden would do that for my kid. Wow. Maybe, though. How you feel about that trade, though?

Very valid trade. They gave back a top shot of her. A massive arms dealer. Because you got to think about what that arms dealer is really doing. This is the kind of guy that will go to, like, war-torn areas between different people where you have, you know, like... Do you think he's dangerous? Yes. Like, very, very.

But picture that. Like he goes there. It would be like you go into like O Block and just being and then going to the opposite of town and be like, hey, I got 500 guns. I'm trying to make this shit move. Money, money, money, money. Like you buy all these guns and then sell mad guns to the other fucking side of town. And then they all start killing each other.

Any normal person, you'd be like, damn, I just made a bunch of money, but there's blood on my hands. That's what this dude was doing. It was going to these war-torn countries that he doesn't have anything to do with and just selling them huge amounts of weaponry. It's pretty fucking crazy when you think about it. That's like the ultimate, because if you even kill one person, you've got to have, it's got to be tough going through the day after that. You sold the guns that killed millions of people in a lot of these conflicts.

That's gnarly. Like, this is a real psychopath. So basically. He probably slept just fine at night. Yeah, I mean, I guess he seems like totally fine. Like when they're doing interviews with them or whatever, you don't get a fuck. So basically, we just gave back a massive gun dealer for a WMBA player. Yeah.

but of color and lesbian. So inclusive, you know, diversity rules. Hey, man. Whatever happens happens, but she home. But this is the other thing, too, is like, he's got to be under, like, massive, like, surveillance for the rest of his life, right? Like, I don't really think he's going to be able to just move around and do this kind of business like you used to be able to.

But who knows? Within Russia, I mean, he's Putin's guy now. Russia. Russia. You should go tour in Russia. Anyway, you got new music dropping anything we need to know about, big projects on the way? Your project drops in January. No, it doesn't.

They pushed it back again. Anyways, he does have new music. I got new music, though. I definitely got new music, but it's like, bro, soon. I feel like, like people hate the word soon. Do you think when Melly gets out, he's going to make you stop uploading your shit to his channel? Huh? Um, I don't know, bro.

Like, I really don't. But you do your own channel now as well, right? Yeah. Yeah, I do. His channel's doing numbers now. Yeah, yeah. I'm seeing it. I'm about to hit a million.

A million subs? That's hard, damn. Yeah. You streaming and shit too? My first big record was on his channel. Yeah. Are you streaming as well? Or are you over that?

I do it sometimes. Twitch TV slash B. Slyzer. Sledger. Be Slyzer. I don't know. I just be having fun. I just be doing. me but no i got a project dropping probably in february january just depends and then i got a couple

singles dropping in january and that's about it you still don't get terms with track yeah you guys are all still tight yeah you can give me a little bit of that's my brother okay but not as close to communication as before maybe nah he'd be busy though i don't be tripping but well drew i feel like Drew's one person. It's been holding him down heavy, too. Drew Ski, bro. He lives with us, bro. That's my real brother, like, right there.

That's Drew. Last time he was in here, he was on the phone with Mellie. It was a couple years ago. A couple years ago. Drew, that's family. That's my son. Yeah, that's Drew. That's my brother.

Good to hear. All right. Well, I appreciate you guys coming in and everything. Of course. No doubt. Always a pleasure. I finally got you on camera. I know.

I can't believe you got me on camera. But, okay, last time I've seen you, you told me about, like, a series that you were going to do, or did it ever end up happening with, like, X's mom and shit like that? You couldn't do it because of the case, right? I didn't do it because of the case. And then, I don't know, like, so. I wonder if that ever happened. No, it didn't happen. It didn't happen.

It didn't. But we'll see when his case is over. I just love the idea of, like, you and X's mom and shit, like, all being on camera together because it's just, it would just be trippy as fuck for me. I love her. Yeah, she's great. I love her. But yeah, there you guys That definitely would be a dope show.

Interesting. What is that? Free Melly. On the V-Roy. Real time. You know what I'm saying? Y'all? You know what I'm saying?

New music on the way. He's just out here dancing. New music on the way. He's got the music in his soul, too, because you should have seen him just walking around the whole office, and he's just dancing and, like, buggy and, all the time. He's just like really got that

ingrained in him. You could see it right now. Look, he looks like you're having a seizure. Yeah. Yeah. Man, Adam, how you been? I'm great. I'm a dad now, you know?

Last time I've seen you wearing a dad now. Yeah, shit doesn't change. I'm out here procreated. Wasn't he like the first kid on your show? No. I don't think so. Because I had like Matt Ox on. He was like 12 and that was super viral when that happened.

You know, I remember when they tried to, and you dissed him. Yeah. on your interview, yeah. Matt Ox, bro. Matt Ops. Matt Ops. If you want to diss him in a son,

you say like, Matt Ox, you're a... You're a Matt Ops. You're a Matt Ops. You're a Matt Ops. It's all love, man. Hey. Don't let this man fool you.

Y'all, you know what I'm saying? Hey, it's all love. B. Slap. W. Mom. We're out here. Okay, Jamie. Appreciate you guys. Thank you so much.

Thank you for having it. Free Melly. No jumper. Coolest podcast in the world. Y&W forever. Like, comment, subscribe. One more question. What was it like interview on V-Roy?

Pretty legendary, especially in retrospect. I mean, he was real cool and interesting at the time. But also, like, all the shit I know about him now, I did not know at the time. I didn't either. He had a storied history throughout his life that I, it's probably good. I didn't know about it because it's not like it would be appropriate to bring up on camera or whatever. But I didn't realize how famous in the city he was before the rap. I didn't.

I didn't know either. None of us really know. You'll never know, bro. Like, you would never know, you would never know unless you knew or you would. Or if you read his lyrics or anything, yeah. It was more like, even if you read the lyrics,

it's more like, you meet him in a person, bro. A lot of people say crazy shit in their lyrics. Yeah, so it's like, you wouldn't know unless you knew him or you was one of the-

His was a little different. Yeah. I heard him say shit in songs that I was like, oh, wow, that sounds realer than anyone I've ever heard say something like this. Thanks.

But hey, long love him. Long live you, right. Appreciate you guys. All right. Thank you for having us.