No Jumper - Young Cardi on Growing Up in Monaco, Industry Plants, Europe vs America & More

Episode Date: December 21, 2022

Young Cardi talks about how he orchestrated his transition from pop to rap, working with Lil Gnar, Bankroll Hayden, his plans to move to rock, and more. ----- 00:00 Intro 2:35 Cardi talks about what ...his family thinks about him being a rapper and growing up in Monaco 6:35 Cardi talks about being inspired by XXXTENTACION and doing rap battles as a kid 11:30 Cardi talks about how he has inspired his friends to make music and RAF Camora reaching out to shoot a video 15:10 Cardi talks about industry plants and working with Lil Gnar, Bankroll Hayden, and Yung Tory 18:00 Heartbreak fueling his music and expressing his emotions through music 19:35 Cardi talks about record labels making offers and the differences between European and American music scene 22:30 Watching other artists “sell their soul” 26:25 Cardi on meeting his manager through Instagram and wanting to collab with The Kid Laroi and Don Toliver 28:25 Cardi talks about European Drill music and staying away from the drill sound for himself 30:12 Cardi on wanting to get into more Rock music and Acoustic collabs 30:55 Cardi talks about his new mixtape and being careful wearing jewelry in LA 32:30 Young Cardi talks about living the single life ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What's happening in? We all know, Jumper. Yo, Potna, play a, a, potna, lush Uno in the mix. And with his first major U.S. interview, right? Yes, sir. My dog, young Cardi. Let's go. Making waves out here. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:00:15 I'm glad to be out here. L.A. is dope, bro. It's my first time out here. It's crazy, bro. Is your first time in L.A.? Yeah, yeah. The flight was the only thing that was asked for a 15-hour flight that shit killed me. Were you on a, like, what airline did you fly?
Starting point is 00:00:30 This German airline called Lufthansa. Lufthansa, come on, man. And you wait. So apparently you speak like four different languages. Yeah, yeah, I do. Hearing your music, I would think that you were American, damn you know what I mean? But you speak. So you're from Monaco, right?
Starting point is 00:00:48 Yeah, exactly. Which is, I know it's its own country, but is it kind of part of France? Or like, what's the breakdown of that? Yeah, it's its own country, basically, but it's like protected by France. so France, like, if Monaco ever has any problems, like the military of France, like, protects Monaco. Because Monaco is literally, like, one mile big. It's like the second smallest country in the world.
Starting point is 00:01:12 So, like, they have no military, nothing. But what they do have is a lot of cracking clubs. Yes, sir. Monaco is lit. And it's a very, very, like, wealthy, prestigious nation. Like, if you're not going there with a bunch of euros, you asked out essentially, right? Yeah, for real, for it's expensive over there. But you have a fun time for sure.
Starting point is 00:01:36 Absolutely. I know what's that one club? Jimmy's? Jimmy's was lit back in the-a-that-the-best club. I was around your age, I went to Jimmy's back in the day. Oh, yeah, dope. Stupid popping, you know, women everywhere. And, you know, you're like 20, right?
Starting point is 00:01:55 Yeah, exactly. You're 20, but you could drink when you're 18 legally. And really in Europe, you can drink whenever. Like, your parents are probably pouring you up wine when you were like 12, right? Yeah, like you can legally drink with 16, like, wine and beer, like, in most countries in Europe. Crazy, crazy. So, like, I understand you have, like, a pretty prestigious family lineage. And I can relate to that, too, because I have, like, a crazy family history that goes back,
Starting point is 00:02:25 several generations, all in the entertainment industry. I'm like the black sheep of my family. Yeah, yeah. Because I got in a lot of trouble at a young age, you know. I feel you. You got arrested when I was 13, was in juvie at 16, a bunch of treatment centers, all kinds of stuff, and took me a long time to really find my path. And so what's it kind of, did you feel pressure to live up to your family lineage and all that?
Starting point is 00:02:49 Yeah, for sure. Like, even like, to this day, like, I have that feeling sometimes, you know, my family, you know, like most of them don't want me to be doing the shit I'm doing right now, you know? So, like, there's always, like, that pressure, like, shit, like, they don't want me to be doing this shit, but I'm like, fuck it, like, this is what I want to do, this is what I love. And I know, like, I'm meant to be doing this shit. So that's why I'm here right now. I mean, you're very talented. Thank you, bro. I appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:03:18 You're off the chain. You're off the chain. We're going to talk about your music, but I just want to get to, I want the people to get to know you as a person because your whole story is really unique. What's it like growing up in the environment out there? Like is, is, there's no real hood in Monaco, is there like,
Starting point is 00:03:35 no, like, Monaco is, there's no hoods in Monaco. It's literally just a bunch of old, white, rich people. But like,
Starting point is 00:03:45 on the outskirts of Monaco, there is like pretty, like, places where you'd call hoods. For example, near Nice and France, there's places called La Trinette and stuff like that Where shit goes down like there's areas
Starting point is 00:03:58 Police can't even like come The Projeet Yeah like the police aren't allowed to enter those areas So like the streets run those areas And I don't even think that shit exists in like Many other like places in Europe So it's like very unique to like France Right
Starting point is 00:04:15 Right and I know you're not lying Because I was signed to a label In Marseille France for a while Marseille is a wild city And you know Obviously Marseille is in the south of France There's a lot of you're near the French Riviera
Starting point is 00:04:31 You know San Trope Oxtan Provence Like all these beautiful places And Marseille is like It's grimy It's beautiful as well
Starting point is 00:04:43 But there's there's some projects out there Like I went to Coppash And it was like yo like They're not playing out there in the slightest And where I lived not only did nobody where I lived because I spent like a couple months out there not only did nobody speak English but like I was in a super it was mainly people from the Middle East a lot of North Africans
Starting point is 00:05:05 like most people didn't even speak French yeah you know what I mean like and I'm not like no funny shit hand to God I swear to God there was like a little cell phone store right next to the apartment I stayed in and I swear it was run by the Taliban for some it was like it was wild bro I swear yeah yeah yeah yeah Yeah, it was janky, but like, so I know. So how would you describe the hoods of, like, near the area that you grew up? And it was, did you spend time out there at all? Not really.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Like, if I'd be visiting those areas, it'd be more to, you know, like, buy some weed or some shit. Because another thing in Monaco, like, there's no gas anywhere. No. There's actually only people doing coke everywhere. Okay. It's easier to find coke there than wheat, which makes, like, no sense. I definitely did some Coke in Monaco. I ain't going to lie to you.
Starting point is 00:05:58 I'm going to lie to you. And, yeah, so I would only go there for, like, that type of shit. But, I mean, as a kid, like, you know, you want to be, like, cool and all that shit. You go visit those places and shit. And, yeah, but, like, I've never, like, that's why also my music, I don't be talking about, no, like, hard shit or stuff. Like my music's like relatable. It's like stuff for like the soul, you know. For the ladies, let's be honest.
Starting point is 00:06:26 You kicking game to the ladies. And you, you know, I feel like for your young age, your music is indicative of a lot of experience with heartbreak and things like that. Yes, sir. You know. And what originally attracted you to making music and what were your primary influences? So I've always been doing music. Like, I don't even remember.
Starting point is 00:06:50 like when I started that's how long it's been like in school I've always been like that we had like these like sort of like groups and stuff we would do like these like rap I was like oh that's you know type of shit okay and then growing up there was these artists I used to listen to like X and like that guy really like inspired me to like really pursue it and like before then I never really wrote my own song and stuff. I used to only, like, you know, memorize songs, like, sing them along and all that shit. But then, like, he inspired me to, like, make my own shit. And, yeah, ever since then, like, it's been a movie yet. So with X being your primary influence and all that that made you
Starting point is 00:07:38 want to start making music, being at No Jumper, which is low-key, the platform that made him look at you now, bro. That's got to really validate everything that you've been doing, like, you You know? Yeah, the shit still feels like a dream. Like, ever since I landed here, like, this is everything, like, I've been, like, thinking of, like, as a kid and, like, dreaming of. And, like, I'm still feel like I'm dreaming. I'm about to wake up any second.
Starting point is 00:08:03 That's amazing. So, I mean, it's funny you said rap battles, too, because that's actually how I blew up and became popular is I was a, you know, I've always made music, but I was a battle rapper and organized and hosted rap battles. I know that there's a league in France. I think they're called like rap contenders or something like that. Yeah, yeah. You familiar with that?
Starting point is 00:08:24 It's like pretty big. Yeah, yeah, real big. There is a group called 1995. I used to do shows with them and all that. Out in France, it's, yeah, Shouts of the Homies, Chinese Man Records who put me on. Like, they lit. But, okay, so you first listened to X, you kind of like were messing around. Did you, like, have home recording equipment, or how did you start?
Starting point is 00:08:49 actually making music. So, like, at the start, I just started with a pen and a paper and just, like, started writing to, like, beats I would find on YouTube and all that stuff. And then Christmas came around, and I started, like, saving up, like, money to, like, buy equipment because that shit's mad expensive. Hell, yeah. So, like, every time I got a little bit of money, I put that shit to the side and, like, started saving up for that shit.
Starting point is 00:09:19 And then as soon as I had enough money I bought my own equipment. And like ever since then, like that's when like shit really started like getting serious. So was it was it the kids around you that basically started hearing and they're like, yo, my boy Cardi is lit? Like is that how did it happen as far as? Yes and no like to be honest like most people in Monaco
Starting point is 00:09:42 like don't. There's literally I'm the only artist in my city. Like there's no other artists in my city. Like there's no other artists in Hall of Monaco. I'm the only artist. They like EDM mainly out there and stuff. Right. There's like DJs, but there's no like, you know, singer or rapper or anything there.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Like I'm one of one. Wow. So like there's no one really to, it's not like here, you know, you have friends that also want to be like artists and stuff. And you like pursue that shit together. You like make songs together. You go to studios together. All that stuff. There's not even studios.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Monaco. Wow. That's another thing. Yeah, whenever I wanted to go to studios and stuff, my grandparents live in Austria, Vienna. Okay. And I used to tell my parents, like, yo, like, I want to visit my grandparents. And I knew in Vienna there's good studios. So then I visited the studios when I went to visit them when I was like 15, 16 and
Starting point is 00:10:42 started like making like music at studios. That was like my first time at like proper studios. Okay. So who is your family? Like, is it people, is it anyone that we would know about or? I don't think so, but like, a family member I have also in the U.S., which is like a cousin of my mom. He was an American football player called Mark Schleret. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:12 He used to play for Denver Broncos and stuff a while back. Damn, I'm a Raiders fan, they're the ops. It's all good, I ain't mad at you. So that's fire. So you basically are trailblazing your own scene. Do you feel like since you've started, it's kind of inspired anyone else to want to get going, or is it still like you're an alien out there? Yeah, there's like one, two people that I think are like starting to like take that shit serious.
Starting point is 00:11:41 But like other than that, there's no one really like doing it like me. So then was it SoundCloud that made you reach abroad? Like how did you wind up starting to find an audience? Because you got a bunch of videos that have got crazy traction, you know? You over 200K a month on Spotify. Like how did this? And you know, you've had some, I want to talk. We're going to talk about the collabs.
Starting point is 00:12:04 But how did you get from just starting, recording on some Christmas present equipment to being. It's a crazy story of this actually. So, um, when. I was 14 or 15, there was this German rapper that came to Monaco to film a music video. His name is Rafkimura. Okay. And when I was out there, like my cousin's, like, he's German and he follows, like, German rap and all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:12:34 And he was like, yo, like, there's this rapper in Monaco, like, filming a music video. Like, I'm a message and tell him, like, yo, like, I've got family out there. We've got, like, a yacht and everything. want to film a music video on that shit. And then, like, he replied to him and stuff. They got connected. And then I ended up, like, meeting them the next day and, like, brought them on the yacht to film, like, a scene for their music video.
Starting point is 00:12:57 And ever since then, I got, was connected with them. And they're based in Vienna, Austria. Okay. So that's how I got the connections for the studios. And, yeah, like, they, like, I went out to Vienna then. And they introduced me to, like, studios. and really, like, put me on into, like, the music scene, basically, in Austria. So that's kind of what set you off?
Starting point is 00:13:22 Yeah, like with studios and stuff. And then I released my first song two and a half years ago now on Spotify. You just self-distributed, like, distro-kid. Tune core. And, yeah. And then ever since then, I've just been consistently doing that shit since two years now. And yeah, like... So was it just instantly well received?
Starting point is 00:13:48 Not many people put out a song and their first song resonates with people. Well, the thing is, like, the first song I put out wasn't my first ever song recorded because I've been doing music for like three years before that shit, like writing my own stuff. And, yeah, so...
Starting point is 00:14:07 Like, I probably would have had written more over two, three hundred songs before I've released that first song. Right, okay. So that's why, like, it's got better feedback than if I would have started, like, releasing from the get-go. And I think that's a lot of problem, artists, too. Like, they're too keen on releasing.
Starting point is 00:14:30 They just want to, like, from the get-go, like, as soon as they start making music, just release, release, release, but they first have to, like, you know, work on their craft and shit like that before, you know. No, that's a fendie fact And I feel like a lot of times When an artist gains traction Labels make the mistake
Starting point is 00:14:49 Because they want to capitalize off of this Buzz that they'll put an artist on a national stage And have them start doing a bunch of festivals When they're not ready yet And they haven't really got their head around performing And cut their teeth yet And then they want to play themselves out I've seen it happen several times
Starting point is 00:15:06 But you've been putting in work And have been taking this real seriously now a lot of people might just see like okay this kid's coming out of nowhere he's already blowing up their first thought is industry plant what do you say to that there's no such thing
Starting point is 00:15:23 and if there is a thing like industry plant everyone is an industry plant because like what the fuck is an industry plant can you explain that shit to me like why the fuck I don't even understand that term that shit's retarded because like
Starting point is 00:15:39 how are you going to how you're meant to get an artist in front of people especially when that shit's controlled by all these labels and stuff like if you're doing that shit on your own the chances of getting the same you know reach as the labels have is completely different so like yeah that's a fend effect right there it's either like you call everyone that works with a label and industry plant and everyone that's independent isn't or like just toss up way that term, bro. Right, and especially you self-releasing music through tune core and all that. That should kind of dispel any thoughts of that. So, I mean, you've linked up with some pretty popping artists at this point now. You did some shit with NAR? Yes, sir. I actually just flew out
Starting point is 00:16:26 here to film two videos, one with NAR, and the other with Bankroll Hayden. Okay. So how did the little NAR connection happen? My manager actually, like he, he, was well connected with his manager. We pitched them the idea. They liked it and yeah, the rest is history. Yeah, so did you guys actually meet in person yet? Yeah, yeah. We filmed the music video literally the day after
Starting point is 00:16:51 I landed. Okay. I was kind of ass. I was so tired. Fresh off the flight, everything. Yeah, that was not fun. But you made it happen regardless. I think that shit's going to be nice, so stay on the lookout for that. And the same thing with Hayden as well? Yeah, we're filming that in a few days.
Starting point is 00:17:07 Okay. And I saw you did something with young Tori from Toronto, right? He's really raw, bro. Very slept-on artist. I swear, he's too underrated, man. I've been rocking with Tori for a five-minute shouts of my dog, Tori. Yeah, so was that also through management? No, actually, the first feature I ever did with Naismolz, I don't know if you know him.
Starting point is 00:17:31 He also has a feature with Young Tori. I saw this, and that's how I discovered Young Tori, and I really also felt like that. his vibe, I felt like that raw energy. I was like, shit. I really want him on my song. So like I messaged him and stuff. I was like, yo, like, what's up? I sent him like my idea and everything and he was down and then, yeah, we made it happen. That crazy, I know he's hitting that crazy falsetto high pitch notes in there. Yeah. I can't wait for people to hear that one. He really went crazy on it. That's an ill collab. Now, you have, I've seen, I watched like, I think three of your videos.
Starting point is 00:18:10 You shut up is the name of one of them, right? Pissed off. Pissed off. Pissed off. That's raw. And it seems like all three of them, bro, who's this girl that hurt you, dog? What's going on? I don't want to talk about that. You are heartbroken, my boy. Yeah. But I mean, it makes for good music. It does. And it gets better. You feel me? It gets. It
Starting point is 00:18:37 better, then it gets worse, then it gets better again. For sure. But nah, it's definitely, you have a good ability to channel your emotions. Is that from just studying music and being a student of the game, essentially? This is the whole reason why I'm doing music in the first place. It's not for money. It's not for fame. It's nothing.
Starting point is 00:18:56 Like, ever since I was a kid, like, it's sort of like my escape. Like, I really felt good. Like, it made me happy. Like, when I was sad, like, I put my emotions into that, especially when I started making my own songs I'm a quite quiet person so I don't really open up that much and I'm really hard to like open up to
Starting point is 00:19:16 I don't really fuck with anyone so like when I like writes on paper or like on my phone the notes like write these bars like I can like really express myself and it's almost like therapy like for me so you're just coming from your heart 1,000% yeah basically And now at this point, you got labels interested in you.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Yes, sir. Is there like a little bidding war going on? Like, what's cracking? Maybe, maybe. I'm not asking for any specific details, but they're on the line right now. It's in the talks right now. It's getting hot right now. Like, I know they know they're missing out.
Starting point is 00:19:58 They don't want to miss out on this shit. Right. I'm the, like, first and I'm going to be. be the only for a while. I know this for sure. Like, this, like, American-sounding European artist who's really going to, like, connect both. I'm going to connect upon
Starting point is 00:20:13 Europe and UK. Right. Everything altogether. Kind of like the way a kid Leroy did with Australia. Exactly. You know? That's kind of the energy. I mean, y'all sound different, but it's the same thing what he did over there. How would you describe for people that don't know?
Starting point is 00:20:29 What's the biggest differences between the European music scene in the States? In my opinion, the, like, biggest difference is in European, like, everything seems a bit more real, if I'm being honest. Like, especially, like, with the artists I've, like, seen and, like, how they, like, film and how they act. Like, everything's more, like, real.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Interesting. In my experience, Europe treats artists a lot better. than a man there's like a lot more respect for artistry in general like you know I remember the first time I went out there and was booked and I landed in Paris we had a show that night in a city called Ren
Starting point is 00:21:18 which is yeah yeah it's like a five or six hour train ride away so we went straight there and it was like a small show it was maybe like 200 people in a club and it was packed though and like nobody knew who we were but they just saw posters promoting it. They're like, oh, wow, like, American rappers are coming. And, like, it was a pack show. And just, like, the way we were taken care of from, like, the accommodations, like, they had, like, cooked us a meal. We had, like, I had, like, I'd never seen anything like
Starting point is 00:21:46 that. Is that, do you feel like it's the same way? Like, just people respect artistry a lot more out there. There's, like, a lot of respect for, like, each other in Europe. And also, like, what I've found, like, is they don't have as much of, like, ego problems. Like, I swear here, people have a lot more like ego problems like yeah no bro i don't think i'm the best i know i am what do you mean yeah thanks but so what's the then what's the appeal of even breaking into the american market how come why do you even want to because i think shit can be done differently and like i just want to um it's always been a dream of mine to like make music for people and like um like how my music was therapy for me
Starting point is 00:22:34 like help people also and like I don't want my music to have borders like why would I only make music for Europeans like I want to make music for the whole world now coming from the environment you came from and being somebody that doesn't you're not like
Starting point is 00:22:53 you don't need to paper chase because you're comfortable already so you're able to strictly focus on being the best version of you as an artist, does it kind of trip you out to see it being kind of the opposite for so many people in music and particularly in the world of hip hop and stuff? Everyone just striving to get wealth and just willing to sell their souls and all that. Like, how does that feel looking at it from the other side of the coin? Yeah, like, it's crazy what people do for fame and money and all that shit.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Really is. Yeah. But, I mean, there's always, like, that's life. I mean, there's good and there's evil. There's good ying yang, you know, like this. Duality all day. Yes, sir. But also, I know that it's not always easy coming from that environment either.
Starting point is 00:23:42 And people think that just because, you know, you grew up with a certain amount of privilege that you don't struggle in a certain ways, like, you know. I had also, like, let me tell a bit about my life. I've had a really special life because although, like, I've got two parents already, yet but they divorced when I was three years old okay and my mom's side of the family is they're like well like they're living good and my dad's side is like broke as fuck okay so like when I um and what's custody yeah like the custody was like every second weekend I'd be going to like my dad's house okay and there I felt like real life like I'd be eating only microwave food I'd be sleeping
Starting point is 00:24:28 on a couch, like only on the couch with my sister. Like, yeah. So, like, that shit, like, humbled me a bit. And I see that, like, with all these other people from where I'm from, they're all, like, moving, hella, like, arrogant and, you know, spoiled and that shit. But, yeah. That's interesting, yeah, because I know that people make a lot of misconceptions, and they don't understand that the grass is always greener on the other side, and people don't understand that just because they, they might be able to, they, might see a picture and think that they have it all figured out but they don't know and you know
Starting point is 00:25:03 the devil's in the details so you know you clearly and i can hear it in your music you um have you always like like you use a lot of melodies you like is is do you plan on doing all your music with the auto tune or do you like plan on like yeah like i plan on like evolving also like when i started making music, I was like, it was like more pop, like, okay. And that's the type of stuff. And then it evolved into rap when I was like 15, 14. Okay. And then, yeah, so I'm very open. Like, I'm sure in like five, six years, I wouldn't be surprised if I'd be making pop songs also, like. Interesting. And also, so one thing, I also want to, like, like, like, X also, like, I want to be as versatile as possible. Like, I don't want my music to have any, like, boundaries. I don't want to have any rules, like,
Starting point is 00:25:54 how I create. I just want to make music that sounds good. Interesting. No, and I see that. Like, you're very outside the box with it. You have an original sound that you've kind of cultivated. How are you finding these producers to work with at this point? Now that you have a little bit more of a buzz. Are you just getting approached with different? Now people are starting to approach me, like before I was usually just me
Starting point is 00:26:17 approaching them. So that's cool for a change finally. Right. And, yeah, also like my manager, like, hooking us up like because there's crazy studios out here like I've never seen studios like this before oh yeah they don't have that shit in Europe ain't no joke like that shit's dope how did you so how did you hook up with your manager that's crazy um over an instagram DM like wow I saw he had this like um social media like agency where he like helps like artists um athletes all that stuff
Starting point is 00:26:51 manages them and stuff. And I was like, damn, like, I need someone like that to help me, like, you know, pursue this vision. Like, I know I can't do this all on my own, especially out in Europe. I don't know anyone. I don't have any connections. Like, it's going to take me five years just to build all those connections that some people already have, you know?
Starting point is 00:27:11 So I was like, damn, let me message this guy. Then, like, it took probably, we were going back and forth like two, three weeks. We like scheduled like four meetings. Like, I missed one. he missed one, I missed one. Then he got pissed. He was like, nah, fuck you. You're not showing up to the meetings. I was like, nah, bro, give it one more time.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Like, I promise, I'm a, let's, we're both going to be on that call. We were both on that call and the rest is history. Amazing. Amazing. And as far as collabs with producers or artists, is there any, anything that you would like to get popping? Like, what are some dream collabs for you? A dream collab, a crazy collab, I think that would, like, blow the fuck up would be me and the kiddleroy. I think we would make a crazy song together. That was my first thought, so it's interesting to hear that.
Starting point is 00:28:07 Also, like, Don To Oliver, I really fuck with. He's raw. Yeah. There's a lot of artists. Like, to be honest, it's no one specific. Like, as long as that shit sounds good. Like, yeah. So, you know, hip-hop's been kind of like the sound of the youth for a while now.
Starting point is 00:28:28 And now it's kind of evolved into like drill music is really, I'm seeing drill music popping up in so many different places. Like obviously it started in Chicago. Then it kind of, you know, spread throughout the U.S. There's drill music in Florida. Really like New York with like BX, Bronx Drill and Brooklyn Drill. and now Harlem and then obviously London has been really popping, but I'm seeing it pop up all over the world. In like Africa, Italy, France.
Starting point is 00:28:58 Italy is hard. Yeah. Do you know Rondo, so sense. Fire. Going crazy. Fire. Like what's like, what's your thoughts on like drill music in France or like near you? Is that popping like that too? Drill music is popping hard right now.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Like I think across the world that shit's taken over. It's crazy to see how far. that shit came. Yeah. And is like, do you hear our, is it like, because I can't understand the words, obviously, like, are they on the same type of shit, like, dissing dead ops and just like, it's like. Yeah, like a lot of the times. But there's, as I said, like, Europe is real as fuck.
Starting point is 00:29:35 Like, those people that don't actually do that shit, when they make Joe music, they make, like, sort of as if I would be making drill music, like, shit that's, like, relatable. That's not really, like, street stuff and stuff. Right. Yeah. But a lot of them. dudes look goony as hell. So it's like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:29:51 Like about that life. It's dope. But would you, would you experiment with that sound at all? No, personally not. Like, I don't know why. But it's just like, there's not that like really like, like emotion. It doesn't move you like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:10 That's more like hype like club music. Mm-hmm. Do you see yourself? Because you said you don't want to put any balance. on yourself musically. What directions do you see yourself going besides, like, pop? Do you see, like, a more, like, any, like, world music
Starting point is 00:30:26 or, like, Latin-infused or reggae-infused, anything like that? R&B, I'd really fuck with, like, some, like, rock type of shit with some, like, crazy electric guitars and stuff. That shit would be crazy. I could see you on some pop-punk wave, yeah. Also, like, I haven't done this yet, but I have, like, a few unreleased ones that I'm really tempted to release,
Starting point is 00:30:48 Like, I have to hold on on them. Or, like, these, like, acoustic beats, like, they're crazy also, like, that acoustic sound. Absolutely. Yeah. What are some things about yourself that you want the world to know? Now that you got this platform, you want No Jumper. Like, what is it? Like, who is Cardi?
Starting point is 00:31:07 What do you want people to know that they don't already know? Well, what people don't already know is that I'm going to be the next hardest rapper in Europe, the artist, everything. and yeah my mixtape is dropping January 27th exactly January 27th I've got two songs dropping before then one with Bankroll Hayden end of the year and one with Lil Naur end of January so yeah
Starting point is 00:31:36 you're going crazy right now bro that's just gonna be hard for real you going real real crazy I see you getting icy too yeah so tracks NYC if you guys know you know they're the funniest people ever I love that guy. The owner, like my manager, like I've got two managers,
Starting point is 00:31:54 like one from the US and one from Europe. And my European manager, like, found this guy on YouTube shorts. Yeah. roasting these other jewelers and shit. Right. Okay. It's like the Andrew Tate of, like, jewelry.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Like, that shit's funny as fuck. And I was like, yeah, when I get money, I'm going to get, like, my first, like, pendant from them. And then, yeah. You're killing it. I will say, please be careful with that out. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:19 These motherfuckers ain't playing. Also in Europe, like in London and stuff. Even worse damn near, like, yeah. I was about to say, I think it's almost worse in London. Like, even if you walk out with like a plain jane like 10K watch, you're getting stabbed for that. The motherfuckers will chop your hand off out there for that shit. I'm already knowing. So right now, I think the ladies want to know is young Cardi single.
Starting point is 00:32:44 You got a boo thing? What's the deal? Yes, sir. I'm single. Oh, he's out here. So are the DMs open? Yes, sir. The DMs are open.
Starting point is 00:32:54 Slide on my boy. Is there any type of lady that you like in particular, or are you just like? Brunettes. Brunettes? So blondes, it's like don't apply, dye your hair? You can still apply. You can still apply. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Yeah, brunettes have a special place. Do we like them thicker? Sir, of course. Oh, my boy is not playing. You feel me? A man after my own heart A man after my own heart You already know Latina Thickams
Starting point is 00:33:24 You feel me all the damn But personally me I'm across the board And I think you probably appreciate all different types of beauty as well Right of course of course Is there going to be Is the mixtape majority Focusing on Like the
Starting point is 00:33:39 The themes of loss and love And things of that nature Are you exploring other topics as well? It's more of the theme of loss, love that's really like emotional, relatable type of music. Whoever broke this man's heart, bro, we're going to just know. You got some karma coming your way. It's my boy about to blow up on you.
Starting point is 00:34:00 He already there. That 200K monthly listeners is going to be a half-milly soon. And then when that tape drop over a million, then what you're going to do? What you're going to do? As far as live performances, like, what's the experience of a young Cardi concert like? It's the best concert you've ever been to. Yeah? Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:34:18 Why is it so lit? Because I'm into your heart. I'm enter your soul. Okay. We're going to all be one in that room. And no one's experienced something like that, I promise. Okay. We're going to hopefully see you on Rolling Loud and all that soon, right?
Starting point is 00:34:32 Sure, for sure. That's right. With that being said, any final thoughts before we sky up out this bitch? I just want to say thank you for having me, bro. I appreciate it so much. And yeah, first rapper from Monaco out here first. Let's go. And remember, because you're going to be real.
Starting point is 00:34:48 famous that Lush Lush One and No Jumper gave you the first interview, you feel me. Shout out to Lush one and no jumper. Let's go. I appreciate it. Shouts to the homegirl Shirley, shouts to Flacco, everybody. Shout to everyone. Shout to Logan.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Shout to give me. The whole squad. You already know the vibes. Come on.

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