No Jumper - Young Chach on Coming Up in Oxnard California, Getting Shot, Doknow Comparisons & More

Episode Date: September 23, 2024

Young Chach talks about his upbringing, the streets, doing time, Doknow, and more. ----- Promote Your Music with No Jumper - https://nojumper.com/pages/promo CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://nojumper.com NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4z4yCTj... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22     / adam22     / adam22   adam22bro on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumper coolest podcast on the world. And you know, it's a Saturday. And I had to get up in here and do things right with my man, young chotch. Yes, sir. How you feeling? I'm feeling good, dawd. It's a blessing right here, dead on. Definitely, man.

I love your energy. I love, who was it they got me on FaceTime with you? Was it Swifty? Yeah, I was Swifty. Shout to Swifty. Shout to Swifty. You got me on FaceTime with you, and then we've just been talking a little bit ever since. And let me just be real.

You came in here with an industrial quantity. He came in with a palette of twisted teas. You gotta keep it twisted. You gotta feel good sometimes. So that's the day-to-day beverage that you prefer? Nah, hell, no, no. Like, this is just like, like, real quick, just grab something that'll hit us,

but not make us bloated, so twisted tea, just real quick, you know? Yeah. Get a crack and just real quick, though. Like, you know, a lot of sugar boys, but we just gotta keep it. Oh, okay, but like beer will make you super bloated, but twisted tea is more chill? Like, yeah, but then you feel more of a headache the next day. Your head just like spinning boys.

I feel like so many people I know just drink straight tequila now. Yeah, that's the go-to, but some, you guys. go to but something you gotta you gotta have the connect on standby if you drink that shit i'll fucking you know a tequila connect that's not that's not yeah but yeah you know oh man you guys are funny uh all right you want to introduce us to your mansway oh it's my boy quirky the manager jp who just took off shout out jp my boy corkser is my right-hand man it's my snipe shooter baby okay i like it um all right let's start at the beginning tell us a little bit about where you're from yeah i born and raised oxnard california

and just came up. You know, not the regular story, a little different than a lot of others, but some people could relate to it. Right. You know, mom's pops was there. Pops was not there for a little bit. Mons was there, a lot. So, like, that's the big thing about the moms.

They play moms and dads when the dads are not there. So that's why it's a big factor in your life. So where was your pop set? Prison. Okay. Yeah, but other than that, I mean, I just grew up with sisters, you know, my two sisters. Shout to my family.

But your dad got locked up when you were real, young? Yeah, when I was young. But then he was there when he got out for the, like, he made up, plus more. But was he really thugging it? Yeah, he was a thug. That's why I got his name. Okay. Big Chach, much love to my pops.

I feel like, because when I interviewed Cholo Wong, he's from Oxnard too, right? Or is he from Ventura County? He's from Río. Oh, El Rio, right? Okay. But it's like, right, sort of in the same area? Yeah, they're right there in the side, for sure. Right.

Okay. But so, like, from my perspective, as somebody who moved out from the East Coast, and I know sort of how people think about shit in L.A. Coming up in Oxnard, like, how do you all think about yourselves? Like, do you think about yourselves as being, you know, part of the LA world, even though it's like an hour out? Yeah, I feel like for sure we're like underrated, homie. But, you know, we got a little two towers and shit, whatever.

But those two towers hold a lot of heart, honey, because we're, you know. Right. I feel like, I don't know, I can't even compare us to LA because we're not LA, we're Oxnard, Darv in Turr County, you know what I mean? But our features and our, the things like we learn from, they learn from us. It just, I feel like we're on the same tip. Life is fast, just as much as it is in LA. It's a fast life, you know?

It is. Okay. Because when I go out there, it does seem a little bit slow. But, I mean, from a young age, you guys just getting into crazy shit. Yeah, like, like, wake up on no plans and you're from the hood, you know, you love your hood. You go to your hood. And you go to the hood, dog, and you f***ing up a plan for, like, three days. You don't be home for three days.

Like, it's just like nonstop, you know? Right. But everybody's different, you know, I understand this shit. Hit that flight dead home. That's right, man. Try to creep up. I mean, it's like a op. Fly exterminator.

God damn, now he's on the wall, just trying to rub it in my face. I'm gonna try to act like he's not here. Oh, you have a swat? Oh, ha! Dad, oh, I thought about it, like, as I was grabbing it, like, oh, no. Yeah, because it has to get through to, like, the inside, right? It's got, like, a thing on the outside. Yeah, I wish I had my salt gun, so I could put on a little demonstration for you guys.

You know about the salt gun? The salt gun? No, but I'm sure. There's a company called Bug Assault, and they make these ones that they sell at Home Depot, but it, like, you fill it with salt, and then you walk up on the fly, you get real clothes, and just boom, and it blasts it. it's an amazing way to kill a fly. Anyway.

Okay, but so do you feel like growing up without your pops and being surrounded by women, did that shape who you are as a person at all? It made me for sure work harder and to grow into a man, you know who I am, but for sure my dad had a big part of me becoming a man. But when the time he wasn't there, for sure

I had to step it up to the plate. But I always, like, these days I'll see girls trying to say that if a dude is raised by his mom and that the dad isn't around that that I don't want to be disrespectful, but makes him a different type of dude. Do you think there's any truth to that? Because I never thought about that until, like, the last couple years. It was probably a girl that didn't have a dad in their life.

They're the ones saying that, too. We all know a lot of those, yeah. It's also what I'm saying. Yeah, but no, I don't believe in none of that bullshit. Okay. Just who you are. You think you were, like, looking for a father figure to an extent? No, well, I had one.

He wasn't gone forever. He was gone for years. But he came back and he doubled up on what he missed out on. You know what I mean? So, like, I did I was blessed enough to have my mom and my past in my life. you know okay let's hear a little second it wasn't but but were you a kid who was just attracted to the street life from early on i was born i was born in here i was i was born throwing up the hood on me i didn't have no this is this is life we chose is life chose us you know what i mean

that's how it is dog if i was like two years old on my dad's shoulders in the neighborhood chilling did you just look at your phone to realize that you used to be two years old or yeah it's two forty six okay but so um what like Would you say that you were seeing crazy shit go down from early age? Was everything like right there in front of you? Yeah, I seen a lot. I see my dad get shot in front of me. What?

How the fuck did that happen? It was crazy, dog. I remember he told me to fucking, um, I remember he was going to throw the trash with the homie. And I was, I don't remember how old I was, dog. I don't know enough for me to remember some shit because my mind, my memory is all. Uh-huh. I remember he was just staring here and me on.

And that's my dad. I wanted to be everywhere with my dad, you know? Uh-huh. So he went to the front and he goes, get the fuck upstairs. And you know, and you're young, you don't listen. so he crept back down the stairs. I wasn't really looking at it. I was just looking around and then I just hear,

pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, and I just see like, what the fuck? And I just see my dad, like, just pop up in the air and I just don't fall right there. You got shot three times. And so what do you guys do? I don't know what the fuck. Wait, how old do you think you were?

I'll probably like, like, 10. 10. So you and your family just go into alert mode and you got to run to the hospital and everything? That was probably like the first time I even, like, witnessed something like that. So I think the ambulance came i don't really remember everything that happened but i think i you know the ambulance the what

whatever happened when someone gets shot in them i just remember him with his leg up for like six months died my mom was helping him out forever i said damn really got he still got his bullets in him too holy shit but did like how did that make you feel about the world that you had been born into like holy shit just like the craziest the worst shit can happen at any given moment without warning that's got to kind of up in the head as a kid right yeah but like i don't i don't know like if it was the way i was raised or well, but I felt like it was just, I can't, because you know, movies and shit, fuck with your head, everything, you'll be watching, whatever. I feel like it's just natural, dog. I don't know, it's weird to say. People might be like, oh, what the fuck? He just, like, nah,

like, my life was really been wild, though. If I was willing to dig deeper into this, we could dedicate a whole two-hour podcast to this, I'm willing to bet you got some unresolved trauma, like because you don't even realize how f***ed up that is. Yeah. But you talk about that super normal, and I'm kind of able to talk about it like it's normal because I've talked to so many people that tell me crazy shit but that's the kind of thing that does not just like happen and then you remain a normal person now granted it like toughens you up but you got to wonder like what is really going on deep in your brain when you're able to just see something like that happen to your pops like do you remember panicking and freaking out as a kid or were you kind of just more in shock

at the moment yeah like senior dad just like flip up and just like on the floor you know that's crazy and the other homie he was with i'm gonna say no names but he's smaller dog so that's what zigzagging gone right nothing happened nothing happened so like you're just like Was there ever a part of you that was like, uh, why only he get hit? Nah, I figure out. Right, or like why, like maybe I don't want, maybe I want to distance myself from this, or did that never even seem like an option? I didn't know better.

I didn't seem like it didn't seem like, it didn't even seem like, to me. It didn't even seem like, to me it seemed like, whatever happened when I was coming old, that when I was young, was supposed to happen. Right, that's just normal. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Damn, that's crazy.

Um, okay, but so when, in your mind did you kind of hop off the porch and start getting involved in when all the activities? When I was like. My dad was taking me around more and I started like, oh shit, the homie's sons, right? Like, you know, like, oh, right, right? I said we all, right? The only, what was supposed to? Like, what's so?

What's up? What's up? Just started kicking in, shit. Met the homie. Everyone started, that probably like, 12, 13, though. Hmm. And do you, like, what was that to you at the time in terms of like just going outside? It was just, like, for me, it was never an option, like, where you want to be from, like,

all these fools that are late blooms and shit, they got options to say where they want to be from, do what they want to be from, do what they. they want to do me it was just when are you gonna do it for your hood that's it's always been my neighborhood dog y'all y'all do put-ons yeah all that shit happens right there in the neighborhood dog get put on you beat up every homie that touched you at that put on because you felt disrespected really yeah hell yeah you're allowed to just go beat them up after yeah i never heard of that yeah everybody that touches you and you felt like they got the best you better line them all the one-by-one what on god shout out my boy tempers oh my fuck is a foe

wow that's what happens dog you know i mean it's different now dog because you know shout to all the young homies from a neighborhood you know some food's getting put it on the wrong ways dot but it is what it is why would they switch it to i don't know however the program they run it i don't be knowing i just know it ain't the same because i don't even hear nothing going on no way yeah okay that's what it is though how many how many minutes of put on are we talking you remember the food drops or whenever the fiss get tired or the food getting beat up gets tired okay so what is you know i see definitely what kind of kid with you in high school well i was a good i love school dog when i was coming i like school i was always my thuggish ways but i like

Like school, I was like, I like, I like, like, to learn different shit, and I caught on quit. Mm-hmm. You know? So I like, I like math. I was real good with numbers and shit. Really? Yeah. So, like, that was the best.

I always had a good grade in math full and then, everything else was bullshit. Like, I never really cared for. I was always ditching, going to play handball the homies and shit. But I always had the A and math on me, but everything else was like, but I really enjoyed it. I like being outside of the house. I like going to, you know, meet different people. Do you think about going to college or doing anything with your math skills? No.

Never really. even occurred to you to go college? Yeah, but like when I was young, I used to play sports and shit. So, like, I always thought, like, one day, one day, like, every kid has a dream, though. That's not saying that the kids that have a dream shouldn't follow them dreams. Right. For the way I was living, the way my life was going, it wasn't just an option for me.

When you look back on that, though, do you wish that it had been more of an option? Or, like, once you have kids, do you feel like you want to, like, definitely have them in an environment where... Well, for sure. Because you see that so much, like, you know, when I see the way that a lot of kids grow up with like they don't have like the concept of being able to do something better with their lives and then i see the kids that grow up like around like the private school that my kid goes to and they spend their whole life from early on just thinking it's normal to go to college get a good

job like everything like like all this shit is just totally normalized to them whereas like somebody like you you weren't even really thinking about it yeah and also like that's why i like trip out like on kids that i know we're raising a household right like you know just like in a nice house not like you know because we came from Section 8, low income, all that crazy shit, dog, like people that come from silverware, you know, like everything already kind of made from the mom and dad, you know? Like, come out here and be like gangster. Like, bro, like, come on, now you have a choice to live a different life, dog,

and you're out here throwing away stress, you know? Because we don't really understand how much you stress out your parents, dog, in this gang shit. Right. Until you really go through some gang shit, you know what I mean? Yeah. So that's what kind of assessment, like what you're saying, like, you know? What's the latest age that you respect somebody joining the gang at?

Like nothing after probably like, nothing after 16. 16, really? Wow. Okay. Honestly, because, call me, it sounds young, but it's like, for, like, if you're 16 still thinking about it, like, fool, just go to school. It's ain't for you. So you think, like, if you're graduating high school, you should know better.

Well, no. I mean, oh, hell yeah. If you graduated already and you're barely thinking about it, you better rethink this whole situation because that shit is not for you. That shit trips me out because, like, I was just watching a video last night about this rapper little Jeff from Chicago. who like was a normal ass kid all through high school right around 18 his homies get killed or whatever he becomes like a straight killer he's dead now but he just like turns into a mass

murderer at like 18 but he has their friend he didn't just join a gang kicking on the block acting like he's somebody yeah he went out did it yeah he's trying straight max pain boys really fool just thugged it out yeah so okay you graduate high school yeah i graduated from a continuation school shout off frontier okay so carbies at telling like what to do Continuation school? You gotta go after school, though. Well, you gotta go to the halls, go get busted or, like, be bad in school. Some people go for bad credits. So not everybody you see at Frontiers.

A criminal, homie. It's the coolest student ever. But they're just behind on credits, you know? Right. Okay. Were you getting locked up or, like, getting in trouble all through high school? But I was young, dog. I went to the halls a couple times.

My crime you right here. One time, we were so crazy high speed pursuit. Oh, really? Some bullshit. Yeah, some bullshit. That's normal, though? You guys get pulled over? You just, you're not stopping?

Yeah, we got pulled. Yeah, we didn't invade all day. That's the last time I went to the county for some bullshit like that. But it's not even because I want to. That's my first instinct. I'm just, like, fuck, I'm already gone. I'm gone, you know? But how far are you down to take it?

Like, once they get the helicopter out there, are you just pulling over? At this age, when we were young, we didn't, fool. We went through more park. We went everywhere through more park to get to Oaxon, to Ventura, back to auction, through the hood on the way to Ventura getting over the bridge and they threw the spikes out. And we ran out of the gas right before the spikes. Oh, shit.

And then it was crazy, though, because we were throwing, you know, beers at the car. cops on the way so that's another charge so you just see cops like she's just whipping them yeah yeah like that and it's hitting the cop car it's wherever you're asking for it at that that point yeah we're young don't full to come you know it's crazy oh shit speaking of come how was the highness treating you during this time period be i'm stupid but they don't understand what they that's their loss though shit we are here post it with adam no jump for dead homies we're gonna plug talk next yeah wait oh shit for real you think you got a career

in the industry hell yeah that's what I really want to do I want to be an actor for my personality is too big to stay stuck right here really so if rap doesn't work you want to be an actor or if rap does work if rap works I'm investing in anything I make from rap to be in acting oh shit I'm just trying to evolve dog that'd be dope I feel like so many actors come from like stand-up comedy and shit I feel like you got to like insert yourself into the comic world and shit have you done anything like that I just make his life for free yeah yeah yeah become a skit guy or something like that.

Yeah. So how old are you right now? Oh, I'm old, no, I just turned 31. Oh, shit. You kind of have a baby face. I was thinking you might have been like early 20s. We could just say that, you know, cut that part. I'm all fucking around.

Now, I'm already 31 full. That's how I'm happy. Shit's kicking. I haven't told my boy, dog. I said, if nothing kicks off from me, like this last rap year, because I only been taking this shit for like three, four years. I said, if nothing this year, didn't I tell you? I said, and this birthday, dog, if nothing starts kicking off from him, I'm done.

Really? But the only thing that kept me going as my mom, you know, for her, but I told him, I said, I can't be, I don't want to be an old-ass rapper. Acting like I'm somebody. Like, I'm somebody. Like, I'm somebody. Because I'm not. I'm normal. Just like, all my homies from me, the section. But things started, like, getting better, dog.

I started on podcast, podcast. I went to Riverside perform. People showing love. Right. And just their shows, though. You know, I go to over here, over there. People showing love. More love than hate.

Yeah. And for sure, you know? No, definitely. And the people that do hate, they don't, they don't direct it. Right. You know what I mean? Okay, wait, so like three years ago, so if you're 31 right now and you really started going hard with the music like three years ago, so around like 27, 28, that's when you really started pushing the music thing. What were you doing during that chunk of your life? Were you just trying to make something happen when like working?

Yeah, I was just working, making songs here, fission foods out here, getting busted there, like just chilling. Right. I was on bail, COVID hit, so Bill stretched it out. So I was stretching holes out. It was just crazy during that time, you know, it's weird. Oh, shit. Wait. You were out on bail during COVID. COVID and then that's what made me be out for like a whole other year and a half. Oh shit. So you've been locked up a bunch of times over the years first? Just when I was a juvenile was more reckless, but when I was all the way to like, I remember the age I got busted when we're older already.

But I was on bail for so long. So I was like keeping my composure, keeping cool, relaxing. And then you know, it still happens, but I just got to thug through it and it just hit me. Boom. After COVID, then I had to do it baby-ass time, sleep time, dog. Nothing even talking about just a little weak time. But the time I was right there, shout out to all the homies and shout out to those enemies, dog. Okay. That's showing me love. Did you feel like the enemies actually show you love?

Hell, yeah, and they're either they show love or they were scared to get a boobot, whatever it was, fool. Whatever that shit was, dogs here, they show love. And, you know, but, you know, they'd be kind of like, you know, like, they still be showing love here and there on a little Instagram. Right. So I know it would be real love right here, but still can't trust them. Yeah. Don't trust them, but also cool to have a fan. For sure.

Yeah, definitely. Yeah. Okay, but was there anything that happened to you, like, in between high school and when you really started getting into the rap thing that made you realize that maybe, like, being on some street shit all the time is not the best use of your potential or that you didn't want to just keep getting locked up? Was there anything that made you want to pivot into the rapping thing? Well, like, I started losing, like, from drugs, though, like, my family, you know, like, my prima little sleepy. He was he loved rap, dog. He used to love him. He used to always freestyle me. And I'll be like, how yeah, she's hard.

I freestyle bag, but, what the fuck, you're getting good? And he passed from, well, he got, you know, he got, you got, whatever happened to him, some gang shit, you know? But my prima, baby cranes, you know, from drugs, but he used to be, like, hey, you're bad, Primo.

So, like, everyone, like, you know, I've been losing clothes, like, you know, big terms or some piece terms. And no sister's, you know, my dad's, you know, solid, homie. They, all them, fools, believe in me a lot. Right. And I never realized until, like, they're gone.

Yeah. You know what I mean? And to make you realize, like, like, try it. at least try it, you know? Like, it doesn't hurt to try, you know. Put your heart into it and just do it. So that this last year right now is probably the hardest I've been going.

And I haven't even really been going crazy hard. Honestly, it's last like three months. I haven't even dropped music just last year, but I've been doing podcasts, podcast, podcast. So a lot of people have been showing me more love just off that. And I just dropped the now on today. So it's like if everything is just, you know, it's just landing where it's supposed to be, huh?

Oh, that's dope. I mean? Were you ever into drugs? Like, nah. I've never been into hard. Never been to that. Okay, that's good. Never.

and then that's something, you know, I'm happy I didn't fall into. You know what I mean? I was more into the banging type shit. Right. Because you always got your drug homies. Your homies on the block, chugging pistil,

shit when food's pull up. You got every type of section there you got a different homie dog and I'm just glad I was never like, you know, the fiend type homie, drug homie type shit like that. Doesn't usually end well. Yeah.

At some point you got to figure it out. All of those sections don't. Everything doesn't end well. Just the way you played out and the way you know when to stop it. But drugs especially, like it used to be you become a cokehead or a f***

pill. or whatever and you could just be a pillhead for like 30 years and now it's like no you're a pillhead for a while and then you're gonna get some fake shit at some point you're gonna get desperate enough that you're not gonna give a about the pills being official or whatever and then shit like I just know so many people that died and like you know by by 20 21 etc and it's just like that that that really like was the main thing that made me like you know what I can't drug shit anymore oh yeah yeah I'm happy thank God I didn't fall into that category what kind of

music was motivating you throughout high school and then even throughout your 20s and everything before you really started rapping. Well, like I started, well, when I was young, it was always like 50-sand and then, you know, even the game, all them fools just like, ugh, ugh. And I when I started taking a series, I started seeing like RJ and then fools like, oh, and I'm like, uh, be having a boning highness to their music, YG when he turned up to that shit. Like, you know, duh, duh, I don't know that shit was hard for you. So you'd rather get some pussy to a black rapper than a Mexican rapper? I don't even go what color. when I'm fucking homie as long as I'm gonna fucking rap. Alright, this is my thing.

If I'm, if there's rap music on and we start, I'm not turning it off. Hand up. But there's also no way that I'm gonna be like, ooh, we about to fuck, let me see, let me put on this YG album. Now, Loki, I had a high now one time. I swear to God I was on YG. I think it was Valentine's times too, but laura.

And then she was like, what the fuck? I said, what I'm already like eight strokes in? Yeah, so, what the fuck you playing? I said, I started G shit. She goes, what the f*** put on? puts on key sweat yeah i got bored like what the f i like keep sweat y'all case whatever but like it was slow though but i still like it but i was going hand i was going with bass i ain't gonna beat yeah gotta go a beat i don't mean you go with that beat gonna be laid flat boys

i got mad through some videos from back in the day where you can hear sound cloud rap playing in the background like really beating it up with like smoke perp going hard in the background yeah like jersey mic boys you made it yeah that should have something crazy yeah But you know what it is? I can listen to any R&B because I don't know. I don't even recognize their voices. I don't know them in real life. For sure.

As soon as I know somebody in real life, it's like, why I was listening to this dude? I know him. Why don't I listen to him while I fuck? I know him. That's just awkward. Okay, but when did you, or were you ever, like, real into, like, the Mexican scene in terms of rapping everything? No, when I started rapping, I mean, I've listened to people, obviously from, you know, from the culture that I've rapped and shit, and I always, like, you know, I peeped game,

but nobody really like, oh, I want to be like that. I never thought when I went to my mind, I want to be like that. Maybe the position they're in at the time, like, that's dope. They're doing that, you know, one day I would love to be right there. Being from Oxnard, though, are you looking at anybody in particular and being like, oh, that's the goat? He did what I want to do, or are you more forced to, like, look at L.A. So, like, one person I could say is Canejo, dog.

Conejo, he started rapping, and he's in movies now, though, like, you know, that movie was bad as far as fucking. Yeah, so fucking. And he'd be doing it, though. some shit that I want to do though you know I want to but I want to go further I'm always thinking up ahead further and like they said I've seen a lot of videos whatever age don't matter honey I should just either make sure break you just keep pushing down yeah because it's like we don't really talk about it but it feels like there's never been like a huge national

superstar when it comes to like a Mexican rapper necessarily but it feels like we're getting closer and closer like I feel like that Mexican OT even though he's from Texas that he's he's probably got one of the biggest chances right now. He's just, like, kind of blowing the fuck up. I heard Beyonce shot him out the other day. Yeah, I see, I see not. It feels like now it's kind of like becoming its own thing, and we'll probably see more and more.

For sure. That's opening barriers. We need young charts to be the man. Hell yeah. I'm trying, dog. I'm going to break down barriers, though. So when you actually start putting out videos and everything, who was it that kind of motivated you,

or does anybody that helped you get into the mindset? No, it was just, it was, honestly, when I started before, I went on my manager, JP. You know, he knew me since I was in diapers. I've done all this shit alone, though. I've never had help. I invested by myself. I did it all alone, dog.

Everything. That's any of my homies. At one video, I did have homies, you know, like, you know, shoot me fed. I hear it is for your next one, you know? But the main thing that kept me pushing is people I go to Costco or something, gang related-a-dast food, dog, tell his mom. Hey, I ask if I could take a picture.

Like, what the fuck? So it's just like little things like that, you know, it just makes me like cool. Like today when I went to the gym, yes, I go to the gym, fat boys do it better dead homies. Well, they have no idea what you might look like if you didn't go to the gym. Because they said that about me too. Put it this way. Corky wouldn't be able to fit on this couch.

Dad Holies. But they say that to me. They say like, you're not in great shape. You work out all the time. I'm like, yo, imagine what I was like if I didn't work out. We work out to eat. You know what I'm going to? Exactly.

You got to earn it. I work out for the Swisted Tea. Yeah. I know. I can't jump. That shit. Sugar and foot. Go ahead.

Okay. But so you start to get into it. How do you form a relationship with somebody like Swifty or I've seen you with Baldacci? So you're like actually really tapping in with like important figures in the community. Well, like, I haven't around to Badochi again. again recently. We went to a private party right there was the mayor of Alet's birthday. Oh, wow. Yeah, Stefan's, um, Estevon Orioles. It was birthday and my, my, my, my, my, my, so not the literal mayor. No, that's the mayor of Alet, baby, you know what I mean? But yeah, so right there,

I remember Badachi and then the homie, uh, D-boy from three, two, three, that was bad. I'm going to do future at that foot pretty soon. He's hard. And I just started meeting, like, you know, different people on Ajo, you know, the food's on wild, all them foods. It was cool, though, so starting and tapping in slowly, but surely, and that's just the way it is. That's why, like, I always, like try to see how much do you guys charge for future future future when I was coming up but I can see myself from the same table as these foods pretty soon honey and I'm not even I'm not stressing I'm just doing me I'm gonna keep doing what I got to be myself and I'll see you so you're copping those features early on or was like like but like badachi not like badachi

little something nothing crazy but little things you know to show your respect for the time no coo like then foods I got a feature I didn't have to pay down though but spice one one that song but just a lot of like you know but nothing crazy like I was insane type shit it's all love though dog because a lot of fools know that they realize when they meet me dog and you know my surroundings and my hood everything they're like oh this motherfucker around right like oh right like they don't get more real than this right here dog colonia baby you know definitely so have you been getting tattoos since you were super young too or well i mean the first one i got was this motherfucker little oX boys i read i read i what's her dog i was like 15 i think 14

i got that right there and then my dad didn't know i got oh that's what you got big oX huh all right and the cops pulled us over and the cops off so when did you get that o x i'm young Whatever we talked about it, what we left. My dad's all, why the fuck are you lifting up your shorts to these fucking cop? My dad thought I was like this the whole time showing up the O-EX, but he didn't know I had these. So I went to the house and I heard it on me. That was terrific.

Wait, so the cops from out there, if you have OX tattoo on you or OX tattoo on you, they don't take it as like he's from Oxnard. They take it as a gang thing. Yeah, if when you're 15, what letters like that, huh? Yeah. They weren't that power shaded, but when you have letters like that on you, you're 100% of gang member. 100%.

They don't get old. Who you aren't. Okay, good to know. Well, just in case, you know, you never know. But okay, so you, you were on house arrest and that's when you started taking the music a lot more serious. Do you think that was critical to you getting more serious with it? Honestly, yeah, because all I had was time, dog, and people think, oh, I'm going home, going house stress, that's the same shit as being bussy.

I'm not really what I mean, but at the end day you are what you're found you, you know? But I had all the homies pulling up, corky. He was on a couple songs back in the day. in the day he ain't no rapper anymore but he was right give this full couple shots of everything you know what we are so that's the environment in the studio is it like a party vibe you just when i was young yeah my mom were dying they said they're probably they're wishing i was old enough to get kicked out that motherfucker probably but they could it now i love my family but when you make music you want it to be a party vibe is that going to make the music better you feel like

nah well yeah like it just depends who's around your environment it's like if you take i don't never took shoes but i heard you take schum's dog and you what the Bad-vite people, your shit's gonna be a bad high dog. You're good people, it's gonna be good. That's how it works with everything, though. One time I was did acid, and I was with these hippie chicks, and I was trying to f***. But they wouldn't stop talking about rocks and magic

and talking about how these rocks had magical powers. Oh, hell, I'm out dead, honey. That's scary's fucking on me. And I'm on acid. I'm like going through it in my head, like feeling like hella deep, and they're talking about this shit that I consider to be like the most retarded conversation

I ever heard in my life. This is not the right environment for it. Wait, so what was this stuff? What's this say under here? What the there? Hood boy. Hood boy. I'm an 8-0-5.

So is Hood Boy, like, a thing where you're from? I'm just a hood boy, baby. That goes for everybody in the... Everywhere in the southern side, baby. I'm a hood boy. Oh, okay. Hood, baby, hood boy. Hell yeah.

Hood Star. Yeah, what's hood stars mean? I'm not just same shit. Just fucking right. Or a star gang. You got that... That's another thing you claim? I got All-Star, Daddy.

Oh, okay. I'm an all-star, duh. Nice. Because you know how, like, there's people that are from, and there's, like, those people? Like, we're the chosen ones. It's all-stars, baby. All right.

Important question. You've done interviews with a lot of them. Who's the goat of the Rasa podcast scene in L.A.? Podcast? I'm going to have to go hoodstocks. Oh, yeah? I f*** go hoodstocks, homie, and I plan to be there again. Yeah.

We already. We already. I've been doing all this. I'm going to be there again. You take your shirt off? No, not yet. Yeah. Next one.

No, okay. So he doesn't make everybody do that? It's just some people? No, I don't know. I don't know. I thought he made everybody do it. No, but homie, but now he's, that's like the most, like the, because when you're in a podcast, though, you want someone to be talking back to you and feeling good. Like, run it, homie, match my energy, you know?

Yeah, that guy seems a little crazy, but I definitely, I feel like he might have the best podcast personality that I've seen out of anybody. No shots of icon or whoever's out here, but something about that. Shout out icon, too, man. Like, he's just got that energy. I don't know. It's like me if I was a podcaster. You know, I'll be like, oh, I'll be pressing for me. He's like, what's crazy?

No, because it's like, you're in the gangbanger part of your life, and then most people, like, by the time they become podcasters, they mellowed the fuck out. He ain't mellowed out. He's still, like, really on the yard. He's having a good time. Yeah, but that shows for sure, for sure, one of the bright lights, cameras, action on me, that's where, you know, I never stood foot in, like, something like that, so I hit that spot. He was surprised for the people at home, he was surprised when he came in here and realized it wasn't live,

because you're used to doing the lot. But live is, like, really. intense pressure because yeah you like realistically if you said something crazy to me you could be like you could you edit out that one thing and I was like it's basically how you're taught that's like how I was taught my last like four podcasts is whatever I was on are they all being live so I'm waiting for them phone calls like homie he's gonna say something stupid you better live out here dog because you live in my city we will my way baby I'm running to us phone one store homie right okay um okay so you got shot on two different

occasions yeah one time the corkies pad thugging it what were you doing just standing in front of the house a little party okay beat up something for in the backyard food got sent and it balls are small came back shooting through walls over there bullshit whatever well i don't even know who was so he came back and just shut up the house and you got hit yeah wow what the f f f f*** yeah what you get 17 all 17 17 17 for 45 damn how long were you recovering from that for they because it was like a from what i know it hit the wall first ricka shade and that she went got stuck in my arm But still, if that ricochet from a 45 bullet, for the people that do know about that,

if it would hit your bone, your shit would have still shattered, you know? Yeah. So it just hit me, and then it just got stuck right here, so they took it out right there. So you're just standing there looking at your arm, like freaking out? What the fuck? That shit went, oh, that shit was crazy in the beginning. I was like, what the fuck?

Wow, that's crazy. I still jumped the wall and everything after that. I said, I just stopped to hold me push me, my arm went up. Really? What did your parents say? Well, now my parents were worried for sure. But the bitch-ass cops, dog, oh, it's because of you. Look at you.

He told my mom, because she has a cowboy purse. Well, you know, you're the reason. I was like, what the fuck? You're talking? Like, the cops were all the wrong, really? Like, what you should the fuck up, food? Really? Like, take that badge off and go take care of your kids.

So, okay, where you're from, relationships with the cops? Horrible? Or are they like, back in the day? Kind of no. Now, I don't know. They're all fools. It's probably that I went to school with or something. I'm out of, I'm out of the radar, dog.

Oh, okay. I don't know any of these fools. They don't know me. I don't know them keep it like that. Yeah, so you do a pretty good job staying out of trouble at this point. Very good job. No real, no probation or nothing. I'm thugging in.

That's good to know. I can wear a shirt that says La Colonia if I wanted to walk through, you know what I mean? But yeah. Okay, for sure. Um, okay, if you were going to teach me a Spanish word, what would it be? Like, assada. Asada?

Steak? Oh, he said steak? That's what you said. What did you say? Yeah, that's what I said. I don't know that steak boys okay I love steak so that works no but I already know that word give me something I don't know well I don't because my girls always putting pressure on my daughter to learn Spanish yeah she's

three and a half me like I'm at the best Spanish speaker but guarantee I can take a little baby-ass conversation my boy right here I'll be like you translate oh your Spanish is whack it's not the best for sure what it ain't but I know what somebody gonna say what's the word for a Spanish dude who doesn't speak Spanish or a pooch oh okay That'll get you like some grief in the community. People give you a hard time about that. For me, I mean, they can say what they want,

but it doesn't matter to me. I don't get what I, okay. I never, like, you know, like, no, I love my people, everything, though, but I never really needed Spanish to get where I'm at. Be real, me. If you get locked up and they realize you can't speak Spanish, are they kind of looking down on you?

No, when I was busted at there, this last time, they don't get a, but I mean, I don't know how it is up there. I never been a prison or nothing, though, but, you know, but I'm sure maybe that you're going to learn. You better learn. right i say just learn my kid will come up to me and ask me how to say words in spanish and i got to google it she came up to me the other day like dad how do i say bear in spanish also yeah now i know so i feel kind of proud of that um okay um how did you uh go viral on ticot

for a letter to santa oh fud i don't know i seen that video i seen some some other fool do it with the red rag and i said oh shit the first four blew up i said let me just thug it out let me I said I went home after the gym one day and I said I'm gonna just put my little van shoe in the background on quick a little blue van bandana you know I threw bandana on I threw my head on I just redealed my first try I didn't even practice that shit nothing I just went by how I heard it one time I just did open a notebook I just did it dog and you started getting a gang of views and I said what the fuck if this she got a lot of views right here I'm just put it on Instagram and then that's when the next year well he got like almost a million something that did that same and the last year the homie 44 va thought I don't know if you're familiar with them he posted it he has he worked always wears orange masks yeah okay and then we got like four like four point five

million views on that shit so i was like but that's just cool do did that open your mind up a little bit like shit if i can go viral on just being funny yeah the rap shit might not be that hard for sure not how yeah that for sure opened it yeah man that's crazy yeah that was cool that shit but i always thought like i'm gonna just do more and more and more but i just never did it how do you not just take that energy and be like shit crap i won't be a ticotker oh i know i did think about that in the beginning dog but it's like for but I feel like these days it's like everybody want to do everything yeah podcaster a rapper a social media skit makers like you know everybody wants a rap yeah people feel like why not just do everything

now that I'm rapping I'm like shit why don't I rap a long time ago I know I need go to that cypher day you can't put a real song run that shit oh I'm right here we should do a little torte anthem so yeah I got five hundred away right now you got you got tortes is coming right now I'll keep it on my load. They got BBLs? Wait, shut up. They're out there?

No. Hell, no, I can't wait to examine. Yeah, yeah, but don't be, don't be super crazy. Do you believe, let me ask you a real question. Do you believe that Hispanic women get pregnant easier than other women? Oh, hell yeah, you touch the bitch and that bitch get pregnant. I'm a good. Because that's the racist stereotype.

This fool, this mother's going like that. That bitch is pregnant. This fool, I only got 14 kids. If I need a minibus dead homeless. Fuck, good. He can start his whole school. continuation school you mean a Mexican chick is just so sexy that they tell me to take the condom off was like yeah no problem whatever you say man don't help yeah rock dog boys

you can't rock condom it's not for you it just feels weird it feels like your self-fricated boys yeah it's not real it's all count if a girl walked in here and you were like you ficker and I had only f***er in con them I'd be like yeah or like technicality yeah it's like I thought about it I didn't really do it. It was a sweater in between. Yeah, exactly. So do you think 50 Cent influenced you to get into trouble and be the type of person that you've become?

Oh, fuck his movie for sure got me turned to. Oh, it was the movie. Just thugging it. Get rid his die Chime Boys and the album boys, boom, just thugging and just like, ugh. The shit was just like, I don't know what you think I do because you know how my squad do. Like, you know what I? Just like, turn. I don't know.

Yeah. It's just turned. No, for sure. That's crazy, though. That was like the biggest influence for me. And I'm like 10 years older than you. But I guess I was like 18. So I was kind of like a little bit older.

But you're like eight and you're still like, this is the shit. When I see the movie, I liked it, though. I love it. Definitely. Do you, are you, you signed to a label at this point? No, I'm not. I'm an independent.

Have you thought about it? I mean, if it comes my way and the right numbers come my way? You don't feel like they're reaching out? Or have you heard much in that or going? I'd be, I'd be having a motherfuckin' in my Instagram all the time. reaching out but to me though everything's a scam. Mm-hmm everything's a scam. Everything, dog.

Yeah. Meldry me up, like, I'm gonna sign you for this, do a show for this, for this much. Everything to me is a scam, though. But that's good. You need to be very skeptical. But imagine I'm really throwing away an opportunity, but I just don't know. I probably will never know because the way I move,

I don't worry about that. Well, that's why it's good you got a team around you because, you know, even if somebody hits you up and they say they want to sign you a label, number one, all right, we need you to have an email email that is at republic records.com let's start there i'm not taking you all that serious unless you've got a portfolio tell me what other artists you signed tell me what other artists you're managing you know like don't don't try to just convince me that you're going to be able to

make something happen that if it sounds too good it's probably the one that really got me i looked at one one one time they said this is not a scam like come on my way how you're gonna start with that yeah like now we're not here to fuck with you but he you know they give you all like it's like That's the problem we live in. The problem with the world that we live in is that there's just so much of that. It's like hard to weed it out. Oh, so how did you form the relationship with Sad Boy Loco also? Also like me and Sadwood, though, we would always run into it.

Well, first of all, we're both from the East side. Not always show at this, home girls, we'll go party, go out there, court clap the biggest one. We're just chilling, tucking. It's always sucking shit. I love that you're fat and you're making fun of him from fang girls. I'm big, though, but I can't view it. The big girl, like, fuck, no disrespect because they always get on me. Why is that fat food having a opinion?

Like, call me, we all got, we're all entitled to opinion, girl, just because you're the big girl saying it. Yeah. Get the skim, the homies right here and he likes you. Like, don't worry about me. You can call them fat. They can call you fat right back. Look, you're going to fuck, I was born and raised hearing that shit.

That shit don't affect. If it affects you so much to make a comment, like, goddamn, hit up court. You don't worry about me? But I can't fucking fat girls. I just, I don't know. It's hard. Yeah. Dead homies, like, son of boys, you know?

I feel that. I got a beard. I don't want a bitch with a beard. Like a condom. Yeah. It's not for me, you know. We want something from women that is not necessarily going to be true of us. And I like sacking people out like, oh, he can't get her. Like, whom are you know, I'm balls deep.

You know? I'm the hood. Like, I don't know. I don't know. For sure. Have you always been fat? Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Nah.

Because when I was young, I was actually big bump. Oh, fucking, I'm fucking. Yeah, but yeah, he's been a big boy. If I got baby pictures, like, ugh, little Hulk boys. Now I'm just stored. You seem very confident about it, though. Like, were you ever insecure or sensitive about it? Nah.

Even if I get the night at clubs, I'm not going to be, I'll see the, like, the good-looking vibe, but it's like, all nervous. I'm just like, yes, no, right? Cool, yes. I'm over here doing my club. Damn, they could tell you know at the club just because they think you weigh too much? Probably. I don't know.

My pockets weigh the same weight, but I don't know that. That's grimy. Fuck these bitches. Shit, if I'm getting a table, if I'm going to be. in here buying drinks. Oh, yeah. What the fuck? They don't know what they're missing on.

They say, no, we could have had a whole life. That's crazy. No, I'm crazy. Now, it's good that I don't care about bitches or no. Because we're going up. You really don't care? I care. I'm just focused on other things.

Nah, I'm really focused on a lot of other chair. Like, I'm busy, busy, dog. We're trying to just do shit, do shit, but, you know, I don't think I really have time for a girl, like a real serious girlfriend or no. She got to be a rider. She has a role of me.

You know what I'm, you know? She'll be right there sitting with a homie. Nah, but that's just annoying Whenever there's a girl here, though, we'll We'll give the girl the seat Before we give, like, anybody else the seat Because it just feels f***ed up To make a girl stand up for an hour and a half, you know?

Yeah, for sure. It's just something unschivalrous about that. Yeah, like four-skinned shriveled up dead homies Wait, what? No, no, no, no. Oh, you got four-skinned? I was born in the night, baby. We didn't believe in no cutting them off.

Dead homies, but we'd be... What are you mean? What are you? But he just, you grabbed your short, I asked about for skin, you grab your shorts. Oh, not because in a little ballroom, boy, a big ball boy. Oh, okay. Wait, in the 90s in your community, they didn't believe in circumcision? I don't know.

If I went to St. John in the 90s army did not get cut. Dead homies, I got to say that. I don't get a fuck. But so you got an ant eater. But it's like aunt eater, but it turns into a cowboy helmet, you know what I mean? Oh, shit. You pull the bitch back in or just do, do Thor. We're just like, Thor is there homie.

Hammer boys. Imagine seeing him digging out, football helmet for the head. What the fuck. Return to sender That's crazy Holy shit And open the sugar package yet Okay, what's the key to to getting women as a big bodied man?

Do you feel like they they with it or does it take some convincing? Some don't They want to be protected you're like a big also Yeah, but I checked some like Hines, I don't know something I don't like Like the Hines, he likes high track Here he goes Talk to me about this. Talk to me about your fetish

No, no, no, no. He's always I get him We got footage Nah Oh if we got footage We're gonna have to pull that up Yeah yeah yeah

No I'm fucking out Not No but quickly you do What happens when I'm closer What's supposed to be like that For sure But I remember probably about 10 years ago I was in the bar drunk as with the homies

And I was made out with some super fat chick And they all It's like when the iPhone really starts to be good enough Yeah That you can film some shit in the bar Late a night and you're still going to be able to see it. These motherfuckers are swapping this video

of me making out with this girl around, and I'm just realizing like, I've got to be careful. Yeah, I'm 100%. Now it's like I'm not even on a huge dog, but people notice me. I can't even eat a hot dog, bro. You ever see that video of a mazie eating a hot dog?

He's taking the hot dog. Shut on, Mazzy, though. I want to make a son with that fool. He pulls off a piece, shakes a little bit, and then he eats it. Like, little, so you don't ever have to do that. Homie shook it Well, break off a piece

You don't have to, it's not a dice, you know But like pulls it off But I think for him It's like he just doesn't want to be like That's also kind of gay Like in the county When they give the hindoo's hot dogs And juvenile, they break it in half

Because I remember when I was right there Busted dog some hindup I mean, use your imagination My boy, you got the hot dog When Futrado dead homie That shit broke halfway She was stuck in I'd go for a cool second

Whoa If you get a hot dog What are you putting on it? Oh, we're rowlish boys. Ketchel. We're doing the whole show, Bizzing, ding, thing. Costco. What do you get at Costco?

Hot dog boys, he's $150. You can't beat it. Okay. I like the chicken bake. That shit's bomb. You take that shit out through a little wiener in. There don't know him. No pause.

Don't get shit. What? You put the wiener in the chicken bake? Well, homie show me that soul. I didn't know that. But that's like chicken and hot dog together. I never really. But, like, you can't knock it till you pop it.

No, for sure. What about that double chunk of chocolate cookie? Oh, when that shit came out, my sister guy, I took a little nibble. I said, damn. That should change the game. That's the bomb. That's the best. I just can't drink milk. I'm lactose. Dead hungry.

Yeah, but, and then also as soon as you start looking at, like, the prices, you're like, what? I'm getting this cookie for a $1.25 or whatever. Like, that's an insane amount of cookie for that price. Hell yeah. The chicken bag, you're like $3? That she's like plain, though. You need a little bit Tapatio boys with that shit.

Tapatio on the chicken bake boys. Really? On the hell yeah, that shit tastes like pennies. It's literally filled with ranch. You know, that shit is. It is. It's a shock full of ranch. Not good, but it's late.

I need something spicy. Like, throw Sorano and that shit. Oh, really? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. You know, yeah. So your taste buds have been set to require a little bit of taste.

Yeah, super saying, boys. Mm, definitely. Okay. So you like food, like, extremely spicy or not? Oh, yeah. I like spicy shit. I like when this food, when that's his pad, the farming pepper, making a postole. And he actually, like, oh, it's just spicy.

You know, it's spicy. It's spicy as fuck, but it's the bomb and it's hard to ever. They should make that shit and sell it, fool. Bombed, but yeah, I like spicy shit. Group, bro, and all that spicy, you know? Average taco truck, what's your order? Let me get, like, it depends on. I feel like if I'm waking up from my crudo,

if I just go because I'm hungry, or if I go because, you know, the homieger's said pull up. Just pull up, too. Grudo, let me get, like, tray, and lower chattel, you know what I mean? Okay. And they're like, if I just go and I'm all brood, let me get like seven of them bitch is dead homies.

Oh, but so no matter what you're getting. Oh, hell yeah. Oh, okay, because there's so many other things on the menu that sometimes I feel like I'm missing out. You want to play with the meal, you don't want to just get a brerido of a side. You want to get a little bit of a, let me a little bit of a pastor, a little bit of laying, a little bit of a bouche. You mean, little with the wood.

Okay, damn. It's cool. Damn, you got serious taco knowledge that I'm like. You gotta get active with you. Definitely. Um, okay, so just the, kind of the sad story, but like, I know your mom passed away recently. Yeah, last year. What happened?

Uh, she was just, man, she was just ill. Doug and she's, you know, she passed away. It was like, unlike, we didn't expect it unexpectedly. Really? So you were saying that your mom was like the biggest influence or the biggest thing that was motivated. Biggest supporter in my life. Really? After every studio session, I'll go wake her up, wherever she's at.

Her or my little sister, but my mom wasn't there. And I'll play the song and they'll listen to it and they'll approve it, you know? They get to approve it. Really? And every time I play it from my mom, she was like, that's just tithe. She'll be banging her head, like, you know, just turning up to it. That's right. That's dope.

So I wish, like, this new album, though, though. she could have heard everything she was actually a big fan of the music really when i first started making my chosen one shirt full i saw like 16 a month and she was the first one that put one on and took a picture of her oh hell yeah so like she knew them she knows you know damn so okay uh like is it hard for you sometimes to find the motivation musically or you still feel like you're no i do it's always hard but now that like things are like you know kind of kicking off in in a certain direction it's like it's tough for her she's she's moving me at the same time you know I mean. Yeah. She's making it happy. I'm making it happy. I'm doing my party. You know,

she's doing her party. She's still right here. Definitely. I mean? What's, what's he up to? He's cool. Now that, you know, not even now. I've always been telling him, but it's like it brings your family closer. So, like, I'm always on my pops, you know? He rents off the back of the boy's padder here. So it's like every time I go see the boy, I get to see my puts like a two for one for sure. So it's like, I'm, his family's everything, though. Family over everything. Was your mom ever worried about the content that you were putting in your lyrics and everything, talking about the street shit? Because my mom's from the hood.

She was from the hood, I mean. You know what I mean? She's from my neighborhood too. I respect it. When home girls were really out there doing the dirt, I mean? But yeah, but no, but she understood and she also didn't really like it what telling me her two cents, but she knew there's nothing he could do to stop me. Right.

So your parents tried to keep you away from like some of the worst shit that you could get involved in? No, for sure. But then when they see me start going through it, when I get bullets stuck in my body, my dad does, like, fuck, this was reliving everything. everything. Oh, shit. That's crazy. Damn, yeah.

Rest and peace to your mom, man. That sucks. Just having that happen to you. Sometimes, like, it's just like, you don't really think about a dog, but, like, one day when you're driving on work or something, you're just chilling.

And they're just like, fuck. Like, you know, you never gonna see her again. It's crazy, like, you know. A lot of people can, you know, realize, I mean, like, feel it, but a lot of people can't, so. You don't got any kids yet? No, I don't have kids.

Once you have kids, it really starts to hit home of, like, holy, look at how much. Look at how much. this woman's sacrifice to bring me into the world because we all kind of take it for granted right like it's the craziest shit ever for sure and and we just sort of by the time you've become an adult like you don't really think about it as much as you could and then once you have a kid you're

like it changes your life so much that you realize how much your your parents sacrificed like i have a niece and nephew you know you know so i never was a niece and nephew my mom was here she met them and then she passed when like my niece was like one so like i feel for them i can only imagine if it was my kid i feel for them like they're never gonna see their grandma ever she's not gonna see them grow up like you know it sucks but a lot of people don't realize until the person's gone how much how much they did for you or you mean to them until they're gone dog yeah even as friends i mean solid homies you're really gonna never gonna realize how much somebody does something for you and believes in you until they're gone until you don't have that support

no more you know i mean she even just having your homies that you really grew up around around you as you're making it in the music business is dope as f*** because like i'm not even from here realistically like I barely stay in touch with anybody that I grew up around just because they're in a totally different way I couldn't even hit them up tell them like about anybody I interviewed this month I'd have to go through so much explaining to even begin to scratch the surface of like what I'm into or what I'm doing or whatever it's like so you probably be feeling alone sometimes too to keep it real yeah well you kind of you learn to live with you end up making friends that like fit into your lifestyle as you get older and stuff but I've had so many I've lived in so many

places and I've had so many different like things that I've been working on and stuff like I still have like a great relationship with a lot of the BMX dudes I used to be riding bikes with all the time and shit but realistically they don't know what the fuck I'm doing over here it's like I can tell them but you're a full-blown gangman right now you're rapping and shit not from the hood but very confusing to a lot of people like real man you should do a hook blog one day though you go viral dead home has anybody done that in your your neck of the woods yet No. See, all right, this is the problem. I noticed.

Duno be doing the introductory hood vlog with like everybody. But I don't think he wants to stand next to you because everybody's going to say, look, it's the same dude. No, the real reason is going to be next to me because I'm the cutest one. Oh. I might take, you put you next to Duno, we might realize that you're the better looking one. I mean, damn. Come on better.

It's not hard to, you mean, you can't talk someone one plus one is, you know what I mean? When I first started talking to him on the FaceTime, I was about to, like, make a joke about you looking like, Duno. And then I'm like, I can't do it. I know it's all, I know it's so played out. I already know that I like, I'm going to be the 800th person to make the shit. Yeah, when I did the free, the drop, rank dropper here on Michael, everyone, oh, look at Duno.

He hit no jumper one time now. He's crazy. But you got way more tattoos and shit. Tattoos, I can have no tattoos. And my life will be 30 times more extreme than whatever. I can't say everything he's been through, but battle wounds don't lie, baby. Yeah.

No, he told me he got shot in the foot one time standing outside the crib. No, no. No, that phone? Oh shit. You ever been around him? Yeah, I mean, when I performed in La Abra with the, when the homie brought me over there, Carlos, Donis Altari is a comedian, and we were like slim for a hundred, a little weird, all them fools, and we performed with fat guap on all them fools.

Yeah, I met him one time. Yeah, but he don't really be showing that love. At least at that moment, though, he did him, but... Interesting. I mean, things do you mean? I'll see him up there. Much, much luck to do no. But I'm the cutest fat boy in the world.

Let's let him know. Dad home. Tell them. You got to stand on business by your cune. Come on, don't know. Come on, dog. Take the hat off.

I don't whatever. No, but you look like it when you pull the hat down, but then as soon as you pull it up. Yeah, see? As soon as you pull it back up, it's like, oh, okay, never mind. But when it's down low and you can't really see that much of your face, it's kind of like, wait, is that him? Yeah.

Okay. I'm going to just walk out and I'm going to like that. Just pretend him here and all crazy. No, but you ever think about getting more of your face tattoo? You ever going to end up going full baldachi? No. No. No.

Oh my dadchi's wild and they shout up a dotchio da i'm gonna have that's a old-school shit get your whole face done. I met him I went to on his album release parties on shot to how to fight my boy seven out there in torrents yeah yeah yeah he's a cool ass cat no no he's a good guy too yeah yeah for show but you so you wouldn't do it you wouldn't fill in the cheeks or do the forehead or anything like that these cheeks are these are priceless baby ain't no one touching these cheeks with my bitches and dead it is crazy like any tattoo you get really pales in comparison to how much a face tattoo changes the way you look I know I was gonna get

right here. Stupid. I know my homie's like, don't be getting nice stuff. I was like, Mr. Lonely right here. And I looked at my little homie. And I said, fool, how old are you? I was totally tested. He looked damn near 35. I said, that's your age you like five, ten years, full, an eyebrow. I said, I'm good. I'm cute. No, for sure. Okay, but

there's one thing about getting like a big name over your eyebrow. It's another thing to do, like a billboard, the whole funny your forehead. That's mine. I think that's a big part of why we all think Crimack was so crazy. He got his ops on his forehead. That one's crazy. That's a crazy.

That shows them so much love, though. Yeah, right? You're a walking billboard. Yeah. Yeah, that is kind of... I'm sure you didn't think about it. Okay. So, okay, I keep seeing you going on your story and shit while you're doing your job.

You want to talk about that? Oh, yeah. I don't get a buck on me. What is your day-to-day? I just wake up, bust my ass, make this money, homie. If I see ass on the way, I'd be in Santa Barbara a lot, Doug. I'd be some bitches all day, dad, I'm only. Well, yesterday I was just working on yesterday.

Yeah, Fred. Yeah. I was working, the food was straight, like, some white dudes, dog, because I worked for Frontier, the foods I put up cable and all that. Okay. And they recognized me from the video of Savoy Local. I was like, oh, shit, they goes, we seen you on a few podcasts. And I was like, I'm going to be on no jumper tomorrow. Adam.

I'm like, what, that's right. So, like, they knew me. Like, I thought they were just like, you know, like, I don't know. I've always looked at, because the way I grew up, dog, I never looked at myself like less or somebody. But, like, I don't know. I always like, you know, a little dead Macs trying to pull out. Sorry, my crick Macs talking. Dead homies.

No, but like, you know, so they just, they show love. I was, oh, shit, they're full, do you really know me? That's right. No, that's dope. Because, I mean, realistically, at 31, I know you've been through ups and downs where you thought you weren't going to make it. And then you start to have a little bit of motion. And you're like, oh, maybe I can.

And then shit slows down. Like, you know, it's like, I'm sure you've gone back and forth over and over. But for sure when shit does slow down, I make it slow down. Like, I'm the one that stops, you know? Like, something happens in my life trash. Like, and I'm just like, fuck all this shit, you know? So now it's just like constant. Like, you know, I might be my first break next week.

And then next week after that, I'm gonna open up for Gipariko in my city, homie. Right. Copper Blues, dog. Shout out DJI rock, fool. We're gonna turn that shit up, fool, fool, in the 27th. Oh, so you got a show coming up on the 27th? Yeah. That's dope.

It's gonna be hard, fool. It's gonna be hard. Hell ya. And then I'm gonna be right before the homie group of Geperico, you know? So it's gonna be that gotta bring my eye game. Definitely. Do you feel like the Rasa community is united behind their rappers and shit? Or does it feel like it's on some hating shit sometimes?

I mean, it depends where you're from. wrong food because obviously your hood didn't show you all that love that you deserve homie you don't think I feel like they should be the first ones to get behind you they should be they should be right there right behind you but you feel like your hood is behind you or you feel like my hoodies that are my homies from my hood are behind me tell you that much and that's more than enough than I need I don't need validation from foods that ain't validated you know but any who at the end of the day you're gonna you ask any rapper any artist anybody dog your your own people are gonna be the biggest haters homie you know you felt that

I feel that. And it is what it is, though, but I don't, I'll still sit right here and show love, not because I'm fake, because I do give love credit where it's earned, but I will not sit here and act like I respect the man when I don't. You know what I mean? Definitely. But you don't end up putting too much of the beef in and your music? Nah, I mean, if anything, everything, I rap motivates my city to rap, home me.

If anything, shit, because ain't nobody doing it like me right now. Who's the fuck I'm sitting next to, homie? Plug talk boys, Adam boys, dead homies, 22 boys. we're starting plus-size plug talk with him dad home see look I could do this too I can run that shit you know in the part I'm gonna get mad d a big bitches that's maybe you'll get some that are kind of right on the edge like right between obese ain't no hard on he's been with sat on the edge homie no fuck this yo but the hey yo the big bitches can easily just get that BBL and all of a sudden they're like yeah but they got to

have money all they know well they get the BBL they're gonna have money they're gonna get the Only fans and they're going to start getting clapped by young Chotch and 22ster yeah and I don't bring him right here plus talk boys oh of course we got to fuck right here yeah of course um all right so like what do you feel like you got to do in your career at this point to take things to the next level and what what are the goals it's just more like it just more i just want to me i want to expand it like you said i want to do more funny things take talk but i don't want to be to the point where people think but see but i don't want to say that because if i had an opportunity to be in a role it's going to make me get out of character and be something bigger

than I'm willing to do it, dog. But, you know, I do want to expand everything. I'm not here. I wasn't born here just to make music, dog. You know, music. Motherfugers want the fame around from my city. Keep that shit. I don't get a fuck about that shit.

I get recognized for being a real mother-up. That's how I get recognized. Not for being something I'm not. You know what I mean? So, like, if acting were to come into play, TikToks type shit, blogging, you know, anything, dog. I'm going to try to do everything I could to make it, though, because I'm not.

I wasn't born in my city to die. my city though for sure no i respect that because my boy over here desto dub awful cough syrup i seen him he was the tattoo guy he was the lean dealer he was the guy making t-shirts he was the guy rapping he was the guy he was just doing everything and then at a certain point he kind of figures it out like ah shit like this tattoo shit ain't really like going anywhere but they really feel like my clothes so maybe i'm gonna really go hard with the clothes and then shit worked you know you just got to take the little wrist to do something different stop back in like you're so gangster to act.

Like you can't do something different. That's the problem with people these days, though. Pride will get you killed, I learned that in a young age, fool. And that's part of why I like seeing you put yourself out there just working on your story and shit

because it's like people like and want to support somebody who's doing some regular real shit, you know? And I give it to everybody. Everybody that's going to watch this, whatever. Just work, call me. Like, music's cool and shit, dog. But make money, dog, don't ever depend on somebody

because that motherfucker can easily switch up and you're going to be on his dick, because he was on providing for you. Yeah, yeah. Switch on me tomorrow, and I'll still be having the same money flow, same everything, same motion, same everything.

I'm on my own lane, on wave. I ain't got to worry about somebody to lean on, somebody to have my bag. You got to get up at like four in the morning? Yeah, sometimes I got to get back 3.30 in the morning, dude.

Every day's different from my hotline. And then what, like eight hours of work? It could turn into four hours to 36 hours. You know, so full. It could be crazy some days, you never know. So, okay. Say you got to work the next day,

but there's like a good party are you hitting the party and then sleeping for two hours if the party was before i probably you know i mean but if it's like if i have if i'm going to work and the job ends up 36 hours and the parties tonight i'm skipping the party yeah i'm making the money homie got to make those choices over time and double time it's where it's sad dog i ain't got time around i think of one life dog i can't throw it away for a party that's a party that was always the thing i hated the most about having a job is just that there was so much shit i wanted to do that couldn't do because of the job that's what really motivated me to do whatever the I couldn't make money any way possible.

Yeah. For sure. So if you were going to tell the people out there to listen to three of your songs, which ones are you telling them to go find? Sure, gangster curse, dog. A lot of people feel that because it's a story, not just a song. You know, if you don't know me, that song will let you introduce you to who I am. And I just dropped a new album today, Gangster Curse 2 will identify it and go to backstroke coming,

because that's some gangster shit. You want the rap you can have it for. We're here for a good time, not a long time. He saw babies. I'm a shot. C-O-I-O-A-A-A-A-A- That way. Why should people become a fan of you? Just because you ain't going to, I mean, I'm authentic, I'm authentic, I ain't got a lie.

I ain't got to tell him to cut no shit off from my interview. I ain't got to fucking. I ain't got to do shit that. You know, a lot of people might do that. You don't see behind closed doors. I can bring it straight to you like it is. And I am what I am. I am what I am.

And who I'm going to be. It is what it is, though. A lot more coming, though. It ain't just where it's starting. It's not where it's sending. You know what I mean? Yeah, man. You know, you got real star power, for show.

For sure, five point. People are going to see you. There you go. See, we're doing double entendres and all that. I think more people just need to get exposed to you because I feel like you got the personality that they're really going to get behind you and want to support you and shit. Yeah, we could do it all. I mean, it ain't just being serious. A gang member, though, I do got a story.

We all do, dog, but let's make money. It's all about money, though. Let's make, you know, relationships, make money. Let's get it cracking. Let's do it. Let's crack some twisted teas. Dead homies. Dead homies.

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