No Jumper - Young Pappy's Little Brother Taysav Tells The Real Story Behind His Life & Untimely Death

Episode Date: July 23, 2020

Taysav fondly and dearly shares about his brother Young Pappy, their strong bond, looking up to him, his early days making music, getting big and being inspired by each other, keeping his name alive with his music and the real dark side of the streets of Chicago. ----- FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 FOLLOW OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/529mn7of2HBKdLfrAMUzcK?si=rWVBWCuWSXeh0TFYb2P-dQ CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/nojumper iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/no-jumper/id1001659715?mt=2 Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/No-Jumper-198283650194402/ http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 and adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumper, coolest podcast on the world. We're in here today with a very important part of Chicago rap history, the one and only taste sad. How you doing, man? How you feeling? I'm good, man. Just happy to be here. You already know. Yeah, nice to have you out here.

I see you smoking that good Cali dope, or you bring that with you? No, I just got this from out from my homie, man. This shit, real is really right up. Yeah. That's going down. What brings you out here? What else you're doing while you're in town? My boy, little TJ was trying to link up with me.

I just was with him last night. I ended up falling asleep as shit. We were supposed to go to the studio. Then my birthday was just yesterday too, so I came out here to just catch that vibe. Thank you. How old are you? I'm just turned 22. Holy shit.

You don't a lot of living, huh? Yeah. That's crazy. Not enough, though. Not enough. So for those who don't know, you are the younger brother of the one and only young pappy who, you know, was basically taking Chicago by storm around. what, like 2015 was kind of like the big blowout year before he was taken from us?

Yep, yep, he was going crazy. I was around that time I was still producing. I wasn't even rapping then. I was making beats for him and we was just making it happen. He really took it to the next level for sure. So let's talk about like your younger, younger days when you were like real young. What was your upbringing like at that point and talk about the environment that you were being raised in? I mean, I come from a two-parent home.

big family eight of us total my siblings eight kids in total okay yeah and I'm the youngest so growing up it was just you know what I'm saying

a lot of hectic shit you know what I'm saying being the youngest but I didn't really had that much responsibility because there's so many of us you know what I'm saying but I first originally

like as far as back as I can remember came up back to the north side around 2004 you know what I'm saying lived in the uptown area before that we was living on the south side on 53rd damn shit

you know it was just just it was cool you know north when i was when i was a real young boy i wasn't really thinking about the streets like that wasn't i never even knew that they existed at first you know what i was just around you know what i'm saying then when shit started happening you know my brother started getting in the streets i start seeing it trying to follow behind him you know what i'm saying it. he didn't really want that type of lifestyle for me so he always tell me like i'm tweaking and you know what saying stay in the house and focus on school and shit like that but he always been rapping as long as i've been living oh okay so the rap part of it came

before you guys really like found out about the street shit or gotten even involved in that? My brother been rapping since he was a baby. Like literally like four years old, he'd been rapping like wanting to do this shit. Like, and reading the dictionary, just learning new words and had a little rhyme dictionary trying to learn what words, rammed what, all type of shit. Like he'd been rapping before the internet. So yeah. So he pushed you in the direction to get into making beats at some point or how did that happen?

Yeah, he convinced me that I should do it because, it would just be easier for him, you know what I'm saying, to just have the beats and then we own everything, you know what I'm saying, and just take over like that as a team. And I like music, you know what I'm saying, because of my brother, my older brother too, you know what I'm saying, BUW, he was rapping,

he taught my other, he taught Pappy how to rap. So it was just like, I was just fascinated with how Raleigh was with this shit. Like, I just couldn't believe it, so I just started to, you know what I'm saying, wanted to get involved with that, but I didn't see myself rapping, so. Right.

That's how that happened. So, so, so, how did he kind of start to gravitate more towards the street shit and like i have to ask the question like when chief keef and that whole drill movement came out in chicago how much of an impact and how much of the change did that make because i feel like for any kid from chicago that was like a crazy moment where everything changed i mean i i feel like the turning point was when people that was close to my brothers they start dying and you know what i'm saying like shit went from fighting to killing you know what i'm saying to my brother you know what i'm saying he he takes shit really hard like that

you know what I'm saying so that's when that happened but my brother been fucking around since like 2008 so that's before the chief keith era but the chief keith era definitely affected the whole Chicago I say that just that affected Chicago because everybody would get more disrespectful like after that like you know what I'm saying that's what I noticed after the chief keith era really because you all of a sudden had a dude who was like the most successful young kid from Chicago and his whole brand was you know him you know we know social social social for just basically being like unapologetically himself but he was somebody who was talking shit clearly wrapped up in the street stuff whatever and like brought it to his music and it was like

it was only a matter of time before people could start seeing that and like the younger generation wanting to sort of emulate that to a certain extent yeah that's that's basically what happened like once Sosa came out and all them Luricey and fredo and all them you know what I'm saying like I ain't gonna really say too much fredo because he didn't really like name drop this people like that you know what I'm saying but he kind of stayed away from a lot of yeah yeah I think he didn't want Keith to be on that as much at a certain point. Right. But, yeah, like, everybody just felt like they had to challenge that.

You know what I'm saying? Go above the next disrespect for whatever. You know what I'm saying? That's just how I'm on the opinion, of course. But they just hit what the next motherfucker saying about their people. Like, oh, yeah, I'm going to say something back. That's just 10 times worse. Just escalate.

Worse and everybody just, you know what I'm saying. It's just the norm now because a motherfucker made that popular. You know what I'm saying? Definitely. So when did Young Pabby start to get a buzzer? going like do you remember what that was like the first little hints that he was going to be something yeah he he had um came home from like he was a juvenile he was in juvenile prison he came home from juvenile prison we had like this little laptop and he just recorded like and what was he

locked up for that time i don't even remember probably like some robbery shit or something like that just some goofy shit he used to be doing back in the day but okay he we had this little ass laptop and he just came home like focused on rapping like man i'm and just go crazy he had like 15 mixtapes of raps like literally like all type of fucking notebooks filled that shit and he just downloaded this audacity on now like and just recorded that show off the laptop and just dropped it like he remixed that uh drake and two chain song oh my like dropped it on youtube like and that shit was like the quality was bogus as fuck but I was just like damn he not playing you know what I'm saying like and then he got locked back up

and came home quick though you know what I'm saying he was like still focusing he was like man I need to buy a microphone so it can sound better. You know what I'm saying? But he was on house arrest. So this was around like 2012. Yeah, this was around 2012. And then he got out house arrest and just start shooting videos, you know what I'm saying?

But he always was just inconsistent because he steady was in and out of jail. But I said around like the end of 2012, I really saw like when he shot his first video, I knew it was going to be that because he already had the support of the whole North Side. Everybody been knowing he knew how to rap since forever because he'd been.

like, air motherfucker see him and asked him to rap, spit this, spit that, like he'll just be rapping and rapping like rapping against motherfuckers so air motherfucker he was behind him and yeah, he just shot the first video and never looked back but he got locked up

steady getting locked up and then he came home and remixed Shirek you know what I'm saying? Like this is around 2014 or 13 he came home and remixed Shirek and sent it to me and I was just like oh man like he ain't planned like he really not playing like and this shit

from the go to the to that point because at first he felt like he had to dumb a lot of his songs down just you know what saying for people to like him more because he always been lyrical you know what I'm saying like so he just was making music just party music shit that people would just like catch on too quick but then he was starting to get back to that lyrical but still like hype you know what I'm saying do you think that when he was doing those little bids that that partially like helped put him on to like the shit that he should be rapping about because I always hear from like under dudes so they get locked up and all of a sudden they're around like a shitload of older dudes who are

really with the business and then all of a sudden they fucking just get put on to the game a whole lot more and like in this sense it sounds like his music started to crack off like around that time you think there was an influence from that? Of course. Yeah, you go to jail, you meet a lot of, you know what I'm saying? Real dudes that's in that. You know what I'm saying that been in. You know what I'm saying?

And been in your shoes too, you know what I'm saying? So I could definitely say that had an impact on him instead of having to go through that process, you know what I'm saying? And deal with the system and you know what I'm saying? and deal with the people inside of the system on both sides of the system. So, yeah, I definitely, because that take an effect on me and my music,

you know what I'm saying? Like, every time I don't have been in and out of jail, I come home and I just feel like I'm way beyond what I just was before I was locked up, you know what I'm saying? Right. So do you feel like, like at that time, when he was first starting to come out, were you guys deep in the street shit enough that,

like, did he have enemies at that point? Was it? Yeah, yeah, it was already up there at that point. like because people was already dying on both sides you know what I'm saying so it wasn't no looking back it then like like I said like when Sosa came out and you like popularized it to just be disrespectful like you know what I'm saying towards well I ain't gonna say just Sosa you know what I'm saying made that shit more popular you know what I'm saying and every motherfucker took that shit and ran with it you know what I'm saying and Pappy brought that shit up north you know what I'm saying and it's just

like yeah motherfucker up north was shocked that he was even coming like that you know what I'm saying because people up north wasn't really doing shit like that. People up north wasn't even making music like that. You know what I'm saying? But he was already a known rapper on the north side. Like one of the best motherfuckers, him and my older brother, B-U-Dubble, like they was the two best rappers on the north side. Like, they was all over just killing motherfuckers, rapping, like, on the street.

You know what I'm saying? Before they was even recording music. So a man-monger already knew about that shit. So when he just starts shooting videos and all that shit, and that just made it just get even bigger and bigger, you know what I'm saying? Definitely. And so you were just, like, to what extent, were you around for that whole ride that he was on in that sense?

Because, like, you know, he's doing it rapping-wise. Were you making some of those beats that he was rapping on at that point? Not in the very beginning. Not the early ones, right? Yeah, but, like, not the ones he was shooting videos too. And, like, you know, but yeah, because we was doing it at the same time. Like, I feel like when his quality improved, my quality improved. You know what I'm saying?

Like, because we started from just, like, off a little microphone, well, really just the computer. Like, we was recording off the computer's microphone at first. And then I was just trying to make beats off that same slow-ass computer. And then once we got more computers, and then he got a microphone, and then he started going to a studio, and then I started meeting other people who was doing music, and they was helping me. We all helping each other. It was just getting better. So, like, yeah, I was around for the whole process? So did you start feeling like he was he, like, famous in the area, like, pretty early on?

Like, were those YouTube videos having that effect of, like, really making him, like, a celebrity in the city? Yeah, but not, like, throughout the whole city. He always stood out as an individual in the first place. You know what I'm saying? He was already a popular person, like, because he always moved around, and he always met new people. He always interacted. He was a social person, you know what I'm saying? So a lot of people knew him just off knowing him.

You know what I'm saying? If you knew him, you knew he rapped already. So once you see this shit, you're going to really, like, want to see this shit because you know what you're going to see him do it. Right. You want to see him do it because, eh, motherfucker going to tell him you need to just focus on rap and you're going to make it. You're all as fuck. Like, I never heard nothing like it. You know what I'm saying?

Like, that was people reaction every time he had just rap to them. Like, if you was right here, if he was here right now, you told him to just spit some right now. Like, he wouldn't see him stop rapping tomorrow or something. Like, that's how much rap's he had in his head. You always know that kind of guy who just, like some people go in the booth to rap, and some people are just freestown. That's just their way of existence. Yeah, he would just, he was just another animal with that shit.

I don't even know how to describe it. So was he trying to encourage you to sort of stay away from being involved with gang shit and violence and stuff like that? Or what was the attitude about that? Yeah, he was. Like, he didn't condom me with that. Like, you know what I'm saying? But it's just like, he was so focused on whatever it is that he had going on. It's like he couldn't really make sure that I wasn't doing what it is that he didn't want to be doing.

You know what I'm saying? So I would still be doing shit behind his back, you know what I'm saying? Behind my whole family back, like none of them will know. You know what I'm saying? I just run with a whole totally separate crowd. You know what I'm saying? Like, and just do whatever it is that I wanted to do. You know what I'm saying?

Whatever it is that I've seen them doing that I felt like they was doing? You know what I'm saying? Like, and that was just my curiosity for whatever it is that they was doing. in the street, you know what I'm saying? Like, were your parents kind of in the dark about what their son's lives were becoming like? My mom, yeah. Like, my mom was a lot in the dark about it, but my daddy, like, he, he was in the street

himself so he could already see the tendencies, you know what I'm saying? Like, but he never really had no for certain things about me, you know what I'm saying? Like, he knew my other two brothers, of course, yeah, but nobody in my family really knew what I was doing like that because I just keep it secret because I didn't want none of them to know because I was basically living in double identity at first. Like this good kid with my family and just in the street doing all type of shit. You know what I'm saying? Right.

Definitely. So what happened in this situation? There was a time where you ended up taking a gun charge for them. Was that super early on? Yeah, that was like right around the time my brother and we was all going crazy. Like that shit was wow. My brother had just came home from a gun case and we was at, it was crazy because all my brothers in the same house. Me, my oldest brother to the youngest brother.

It's four of us. Like we all in the house. it's my homie, my brother, homie, two cups, you know what I'm saying? That's all, homie. And it was, that's it, I think. But we is going to leave, you know what I'm saying? I guess my oldest brother, baby mama was in California. He didn't answer the phone for her or something, and he, and he had their son out here with us, you know what I'm saying?

And so she called the police on him, you know what I'm saying? And said he basically kidnapped the son. So we're going to leave out the house, and the whole 24th district police is at the door already. Like, they was fin of knock at first, but we were going to leave. We just opened the door and they right here already, you know what I'm saying? Like, and there's a gun right here on the table, all type of shit, but we're on our way out, you know what I'm saying? And this is how this even, this situation even came about. So it's just like, damn, you know what I'm saying?

Like, we all in here, like, all my brother's felons, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm the only motherfucker in here a juvenile, you know what I'm saying? So I just spoke up and told me like, man, that's my gun, you know? What would have happened if nobody took credit for the gun? My oldest, my brother, BUD, he would have, he would have had to take the case because his name was on least of the, of the crib, you know what I'm saying? But had they ever had the conversation with you at that point about like, this is how you're supposed to behave if this kind of thing occurs?

Like, were they having the no snitching conversation or the like if it comes down to it, you might have to take a charge conversation? I mean, no, I already had that in my head. Like, they didn't even have to tell me that because it's like, it's nothing I wouldn't do for my brothers. Like, and these are the two people I look up to the most in the world. Like, and I know both of my brothers literally just came home. My older brother just got home from a conspiracy charge.

And my other brother just came home. Pappy just came home from a gun charge. So they both are going to go away for a long time. If any of this shit going on them. So I know if I go, if I get locked up for this shit right now, I'm going to be out the next day. Like I already had that in my head because I'm a juvenile. I probably come home tonight. That's what I was thinking.

It was going to happen. How long did you actually go in? A day, like a night. I just spent the night in there and they let me out the next day. Really? So they didn't even press charges against you after that? They did. Like I had to plead out the probation.

that shit fucked me up right okay but it take a while for that to go into effect or was that all during like him still being on the rise and everything or you ended up doing that later like like like a month later i just took probation for it because i was just like fuck that shit i don't want to keep going to court and all like goof-ass shit you know what i'm saying like and i was a juvenile so i was like when i'm 18 this none of this shit is gonna matter and so that's how that went about but i was on probation like during that whole time like i was study getting on house arrest and all type of goof-ass shit because my probation officer, you know what I'm saying? He was just like on me about being in the street too. Damn, that's crazy. Okay, so was there also, there's a story about him getting

shot at McDonald's? Yeah. Where does that fall in this whole timeline? That was early on? That was, no, that was like 2014. That's like the February 2014. Oh, okay. One of my friends got killed in that occasion. And that same shooting? Yeah. Wow. So at this point, like, you guys have kind of gone from like basically just being regular kids at the beginning of this story to end up in situations where like it's kind of crazy you're sort of seeing like the life of a kid in Chicago where you know one day you're like 14 and shit is kind of relaxed it's not that crazy and then a couple years later it's like you just end up wrapped up in all this crazy ass shit like you ever take time to stop and think about how how fucked up that is every day I'll be trying to tell people

like you know what I'm saying like mental health is everything you know what I'm saying And they don't understand, like, how this really takes a toll on a person for you to just be going through every day of your life and then consistently losing people close to you to violence, you know what I'm saying, to really petty beef because it's all over nothing at the end of the day, you know what I'm saying? And I always tell a motherfucker like, it never, this was never the plan for shit to turn out like this. And any motherfucker in Chicago, it didn't tell you the same thing. Like, we ain't, nobody expected this to shit to happen like this, you know what I'm saying? Like, especially all the motherfuckers love ones that we don't lost throughout Chicago. I'll just say from 2008 to now, you know what I'm saying? Like, this shit is, you know?

There's just that crazy decision that you have to make, too, of, are you going to be a person who goes to school or, you know, walks down the street without a gun on them? Or are you going to be the type of person who protects himself? And it's kind of get fucked either way. Yeah, like, you know? At the end of the day, every motherfucker, nine times out of ten, if you're in your right state of mind, you're going to be like, I got to have some form of protection because it could happen to anybody. It's not even about you being a gang member.

Like, you could be, this shit could just be a regular altercation on the street. A nigger will kill you for nothing. Like, it happens every day, you know what I'm saying? And that's in Chicago with some of the strictest gun laws in the country. Yeah, they do. It's just, it's a lose-lose situation, like you said. Like, either way, you know what I'm saying, on all sides of the board. So you remember when you first had to make that decision

or when you first started to not feel safe, like walking down the street unless you were protecting yourself? Like, when did that become a fixture in your head? It really, like, when the, when the, when the, when my brother got shot, when he first got shot the first time, that's when I knew, like, yeah, like, it could be anybody. You know what I was saying?

Like, because at first it was just like, you know it could be anybody, but then when it get, like, close, then you'd be like, man, like, a motherfucker really got to do what they got to do to protect themselves because this shit could be any one of us now at this moment

because people in your crowd start to get affected, you know what I'm saying? A person close to you die, like a person you'd be with every day, like, then that's when you know, like, we all need to stick together, you know what I'm saying? Like, definitely.

Oh, yeah, I forgot, the reason why I was bringing up the McDonald's thing is because there's like a story. The story that I heard was basically that there was the shooting at the McDonald's and then he ended up going back there basically just to, you know, prove a point and then he ended up getting into

another altercation at that McDonald's when he went back there? No, none of that. Does not happen? No, no, none of that happened. It just, it just happened, you know what I'm saying? All right. I guess I'm off of a sick down. He just happened to be at the McDonald's again. No, he wasn't like they were never at the McDonald's.

You know what I'm saying? Like, it just led to the McDonald's. You know what I'm saying? People started shooting and people were about at McDonald's. My friend, Marquillo, got killed right there. You know what I'm saying? My brother got shot right there. Another friend of mine got shot right there and another friend of mine got shot right there.

You know what I'm saying? But they was never at the McDonald's yet. You know what I'm saying? They was trying to get to the McDonald's, of course, but they was never there. Okay. Crazy. So I got to ask this, like, in terms of like all this crazy shit going on and everything, Were you guys having conversations about leaving Chicago or about like, you know, him getting signed or like being able to sort of elevate your lives like that?

It seems like nowadays young rappers realize that potential like pretty early on. And a lot of times you'll see them moving to L.A., moving to Atlanta, moving away from the Chicago stuff early on. But did you guys have that in your head at that point? Yeah, my big sister, she lived in Texas because she was going to college out there. and she was married and she had a nice home and she used to always want us to come out there, you know what I'm saying, and I did stay out there with her a couple times, you know what I'm saying?

Pappy came out there, but he didn't want to really stay out there like that, you know what I'm saying? He just wanted me to stay out there, you know what I'm saying, so I could stay out the streets, you know what I'm saying? But yeah, that was always a conversation because a motherfucker, the violence just was getting so close, you know what I'm saying? It was just so every day, you know what I'm saying?

So my sister and my family, they was really the ones trying to persuade the motherfucker to move a woman. you know what I'm saying to do whatever it is you got to do to just stay away from this shit because they was just really tired you know definitely so but was he entertaining conversations with the labels and like was it that kind of thing where they were they were trying to court him because nowadays if you're a young underground rapper you know you get one song with a million views boom you got every label breaking down your door trying to sign you right yeah to my understanding from what I heard from his manager or whatever he was posed to be reaching a deal with Atlantic Records really I'm saying around the same time he got killed, but I don't know what to what extent that is true, you know what I'm saying? But that's just to more understanding. Wow. That would have been crazy.

It would have been fucking wild to see him actually have, like, had a sort of more mainstream, like, music career, you know? Because that's, that's, like, was his whole style before this drill rap even came into play. Like, he was already so advanced with this shit. Like, literally, because he'd been rapping so long and he just perfected it. You know what I'm saying? like I don't know I've really had to describe it like he could really have any he was so versatile like every every flow any style any any any beat he can get on in and kill it like he don't care you know what I'm saying like and he don't have to be talk about no killing none of that shit you

know what I'm saying like he sure he was a goat for real that's crazy so yeah leading up to the situation so there was one incident where there was this like insane party that did he get arrested at the party or it was just like a crazy-ass party you said that like every fucking cop in the city in the area showed up and shit what was that story yeah that's when i was i was on the one at this time so i went there but that was he had a birthday party and um the police came and had that motherfucker surrounded swat team all type of shit yeah motherfucker in that party went to for one gun but they had to let everybody go you know what i'm saying because nobody lived there and it was in nobody possession oh okay um let me ask you this too around that time is like the

the whole academics thing was sort of like blowing up for the first time was that like was that an influence in some way like were you guys looking at the people the academics was talking about on his channel because this is like the war on shirac it's a very different sort of era like academics now he tends to cover more mainstream artists but at this time like that when I really go back and like I'm searching his name and shit pappy like that's a lot of the oldest videos about him and shit right yeah see I don't I don't know because me personally I don't watch shit about people in Chicago. Like, I'm real live in this shit every day. Like, I don't need to see a motherfucker blogging about us that's not even nowhere near around us. Like, and just fabricating shit and

just putting most sauce on this shit. Like, that shit really gay as fuck, because at the end of the day, you're talking about people, lost people. You know what I'm saying? Like, these is lost love ones and you just doing this shit for publicity. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't respect shit like that. You know what I'm saying? So I never really toned in and shit like that. Interesting. Yeah, I feel like because a lot of that stuff, he's been accused, like, now that he's bigger and stuff. It's like he gets kind of accused of having sort of manipulated those situations and maybe talking a little too carelessly about the stuff. And when I go back and watch some of those older Warren Shirek videos, it is kind of, he's talking about it in like a tone that is a

little bit more lighthearted than you would ever expect somebody to do these days given the subject matter. Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying? Like I don't respect that type of shit because at the end of the day, you just exploiting somebody for your own personal game. I can never respect you at that point because I lost people you know what I'm saying and I know people that lost people you know what I'm saying like and that shit not no game when it's your grandma crying your mama crying your auntie crying your sister crying like and they they're looking at these videos and this is the reason they crying you know what I'm saying like because of how you talking about they lost loved ones you know what I'm saying like I just

could never respect the motherfucker like that in my life did you know Zach TV? Did you know Zach TV? Yeah yeah yeah he did an interview with me right exactly yeah but was he like a factor in terms of that early Chicago stuff where you uh was he doing content about happy back man and shit yeah he was um i don't really know like i just know he was he was very active in in the underground chicago scene period you know what i'm saying like that was just his whole mission was to just get everybody more publicity you know what i said because he wanted everybody to win you know what i'm saying rest up zack tv on my soul no yeah i was just thinking about that because it seems like you know

him like like i don't know if we ever really got that much closure about what happened to him and shit but it just seems particularly fucked up when you have a guy who's like really out there in the city trying to support shit and he ends up getting taken out i don't understand the circumstances necessarily that led to that me it's a mystery to me you know what i'm saying like and the shit happened right downtown chicago man like that was fucked up i ain't i ain't i didn't want to believe in my damn self man for sure um okay so in terms of pabby just blowing up and stuff like where like at what level had he basically gotten to by the point that he ended up passing? Like what was your perspective on his career and where your whole team was at in the the weeks of the months like

leading up to this like in terms of how far along in his career was or where his mind state was at at the time that he passed? By that time like he was it was like everybody around him was like man it's either they're going to be you from a rap or you're going to be in the street because you can only do one. You know what I'm saying? And he was getting to that point where he was getting big, you know what I'm saying,

with this rap shit, you know what I'm saying? Real big in the street, too. You know what I'm saying? Like, the police was developing a strong dislike form, you know what I'm saying? A strong hatred for him

because innocent people lives was getting taken, you know what I'm saying? His name was getting thrown around. You know what I'm saying? So it was just a lot of animosity from a lot of size, you know what I'm saying?

But the music was there. You know what I'm saying? He could take that show. shit serious and he was gonna go you know what I'm saying and right around the time you got killed it was when he was telling everybody he was fin to get signed you know what I'm saying like he was saying June 15th that's all I'm waiting for like I'm going to go out there it's it's coming you know what I'm so you had a big trip to L.A. planned and everything yeah damn that's crazy so okay how did you find out or what was that moment like when you got the call or what happened man I had my phone on do not

disturbed, you know what I'm saying? I was on the run at that time, you know what I'm saying? So I had my phone, I do not disturb. I was in Texas and my sister just woke me up crying out of my sleep. What were you on the run for? A shooting, you know what I'm saying? Like a motherfucker basically implicated me in a shooting, but the police is trying to harass me so. So you just wanted to get out of town? I had, you know what I'm saying? I already got proven and I didn't do this, You know what I'm saying? But they were just trying to re-arrest me for this shit because they had a motherfucker saying

willing to say that I did it. You know what I'm saying? I went on the run. You know what I'm saying? Fuck that. Y'all ain't trying to lock me up for shit. But yeah, I was on the run. My sister woke me up crying.

You know what I'm saying? They told me Pappy dead. Oh, damn, what the fuck? Like, that shit just, like, threw me off. And now first thing I could do is just look at my phone and I just had like 500 missed calls. Like, literally like 500 missed calls. And I'm just like, what the fuck?

Like, it's like three, four in the morning, though. I'm like, what the fuck like so i just the first thing i do is just go on facebook like and went on his page and just sent the article like damn like this shit true you know what i'm saying like i called my brother and then he was just like man bro like i'm sorry like pappy going you feel me and i just hung up you feel me and i was just in shock you feel me like i didn't even cry like till i got on the plane you know what i'm saying it came back like i was just like damn bro like that shit was just crazy I don't really know how to describe the feeling, you know what I'm saying?

It just changed my whole perspective on a lot of shit, you know what I'm saying? I know you lost a lot of people, but was this like the first person you were super close with who passed? Yeah, that's the closest person around that time that got killed to me, but two cups, he was close because he was like real close with my brothers, you know what I'm saying? And I was real close with my brothers around that time. So I was always in a mix with him and pool band, you know what I'm saying? Like all the people that my brother was close with, I usually had like some closely related ties to them because I always go around them. you know what I'm saying when my brother's going around and shit like that so when they was getting killed that shit did have an effect on me too but when Papi got killed that was like my everyday nigga you know what I'm saying this is my big brother actually like before any of that but this is my everyday you know what I'm saying so that shit had a real effect on me like what the fuck you know what I'm saying like yeah that was that was the that was the closest person around that time you know what I'm saying then it just started getting closer and closer and closer and close and close and closer you know what I'm saying my big my older brother actually ended up getting shot in the same year you know what I'm saying nine times and that was saying nine times and then I'm saying and he survived that though you know what I'm saying and that shit was just crazy as

fuck too because he almost died like he was in a hospital for like six months behind that shit you know what I'm saying and it was just like it was steady motherfuckers that were just closely around us you know what I'm saying like steady getting killed you know I'm saying like from around the time my brother got killed because it was just like really just like a real war zone on the whole north side at that point you know what I'm saying so a lot of motherfuckals is just getting killed from the end to now you know what I'm saying just like a lot of A lot of motherfuckers don't lost their life to this shit. You know what I'm saying?

They just like, they all was close. Close motherfuckers here, yeah. Right. So you weren't worried about coming back for the funeral at that point, even though you're on the run? Yeah, no. I'm going to fuck them. Right.

It's my whole brother, you know what I'm saying? Like, I didn't even want to go back on the run like after that shit, you know what I'm saying? But I knew I had to. I only stayed in Chicago for like two weeks, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, man, I got to go for it because they was going to start coming, you know what I'm saying, looking for a motherfucker. So you took off, but then did you end up coming back?

Yeah, the motherfucker who was trying to kind of court on me killed itself in a car accident, so I came back, you know what I'm saying? And then that's when I got locked up for my first gun case. Oh, wow, right when you got back? No, not right when I got back, but, like, that same summer. Right. So how does that change things after Pappy Pass, though? Like, what changed in your mind? And it seems like you were, you made the best out of it in the sense that you started rapping and, like, decided that you really needed to be the one to, you really needed to be the one to, you know,

keep his name alive, but at the same time where you just like absolutely absorbed with like rage and sadness when it happened? Like how did you get out of whatever mental state that put you into? Man, I just knew I had to stay strong for my family. First and foremost, you know what I'm saying? Because I got a lot of women in my family, four sisters and then my mom and my grandma, you know what I'm saying? And then like one of the men just got took out the family. So I knew I had to stay strong for them, you know what I'm saying? And that was just my, the biggest responsibility that I was trying to, you know what I'm saying embrace you know what I'm saying but it just really affected me because that was a my one of my role models you know what I'm saying it's just like for him to lose his life

you know what I'm saying like that just really like fuck my whole understanding of because I just never thought something like that would happen you know what I'm saying especially this being my flesh and blood you know what I'm saying same mom same dad you know what I'm saying so that shit just wowed and then I'm his only little brother you know what I'm saying so he really felt like he had to he He had to, you know what I'm saying, take me under his wing and teach me everything it is that I needed to know, you know what I'm saying, to become a man, you know what I'm saying? He didn't even get to finish doing that, you know what I'm saying? That's what fuck my whole understanding up about everything.

Like now I have to, you know what I'm saying? It's not like I don't have other brothers, but like, this was your job. Like, you know what I'm saying? This is what you expressed to me, you know what I'm saying? And you left in the midst of doing that, like, that's what fuck my whole understanding up. So now I really have to learn this shit for myself or what I think that you would be teaching me, you know what I'm saying, and get out here and try to learn this shit on my own.

And that's how everything really changed, you know what I'm saying? So had you been rapping prior to that? No. Really? I didn't, no. And you never even really thought about it? Because everybody makes beats got to rap a little bit, just to have something to put on the beats, right? I did when I was, like, young before I ever started making beats.

Like, when I first, like, I was like seven probably. I was like, fuck it, I want to start rapping with my brothers. Like, you know what I'm saying? Then I started trying to do that shit, I was just like, nah, like, that shit ain't right. You know what I'm saying? Like, I can't do that shit. You know what I'm saying? And then I told my day, like, shit, I don't know how to rap?

He's like, how you don't know how to rap? And then he was like, what ran with Ken? And I was like, shit, fan. He was like, all right, well, you know how to rap? You know what I'm saying? And then shit, I just, like, fuck that shit. I don't want to rap. You know what I'm saying?

Then when my brother got killed, like, and then I was just like, yeah. Now I was like, but it was like not directly after, you know what I'm saying? It just took a little second. Like, probably like eight months after my brother got killed, I really, like, made the decision to him out here. like man I think I'm gonna start rapping you know what I'm saying like and just really do that shit you feel me for bro you feel me and then I didn't do it though I just wrote a few rap and then I was like damn this shit look he kind of raw you feel me like I just like try to think

like what what would papy say you feel me like think of some shit like I bet write that shit down but like I never rap on my own beats for some reason like it's just like I couldn't rap to my own beats like I couldn't even bring myself to do that because I just feel like man all these beats is for pappy like you feel me so I never wrapped on my own beats on my own beats like I'm own beats like them are still to this day only a couple of my own beats but yeah I just started writing shit and then like almost like a before it was a year after he got killed I went to the studio you feel me and I recorded this with my first song letter to pap you feel me and I dropped that shit and that shit went crazy like over crazy and

I was just like damn they fucking with this shit you feel me I bet like now I know I know I really got to do this shit I can't really look back at this point and then I But before I had dropped it, I had sent it to my sister, my brothers, my family first, you feel, me, then a few of my homies, and they were just like, damn, yeah, like, this how you coming? You're going crazy. This shit, raw. Like, for this to even be your first song, like, this shit, raw, like, this shit better than nigger songs right now, you know what I'm saying?

And I'm just like, damn, like, you know what I'm saying? So I started to take that shit serious, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I mean, it's crazy, too, because, you know, in a lot of cities, you might have somebody pass away and they don't have that many people who are like relevant artists who pass away from that city. But in Chicago, it's kind of like you're at risk of there just being so many up-and-coming artists who pass that it's like, you know, if you don't keep somebody's name alive, then you kind of run the risk that the city might not necessarily like, they're not necessarily going to do it unless you're the one doing it. Was that kind of part of the feeling? Yeah, you know what

I said? I already knew like my homies, you know what I'm saying? They was raping too. You know what I'm saying? my boy Kimo started rapping, you feel me, like, and he was blowing up, you feel, my big brother, B. Dubble was rapping my homie, he got killed, though, you know what I'm saying, right around the same time as my brother. And so they was rapping and they was going crazy, but it's just like, man, like, I just felt like the responsibility fell on me, like, at the end of the day, like, I have to do it, you know what I'm saying? Like, it was just, my brother was just talking to me, like, man, like, you got to do this

shit, you know what I'm saying? So I just came to their conclusion, like, I got to do it, you know what I'm saying? because who else are going to really, like, I won't feel right with nobody else doing it, but me, you know what I'm saying? Do you feel like he still gets the amount of respect that he deserves in the city and shit? Like, do you still hear his music played enough and stuff?

Yeah, yeah, man. To this day, like, man, he got their respect for sure, like, because every motherfucker I already know. Like, he, they're the best motherfucker to ever do this shit. You feel me? Like, out the city, you feel me? So that's everybody understanding. Like, man, like, if he was here, he would be the best.

Like, that's what everybody tells you in Chicago. Were you shocked when you heard TayK say his name? Man, that nigga TayK was crazy is I heard that song before whatever even was big like that. You know what I'm saying? So I'm just like, damn, that's what's up. And what's crazy is where he's from is actually where I was at when I was on the run in Texas.

Really? And yeah, you feel me? And that shit crazy because I was out there. And it's a motherfucker that he, that they said that he killed or whatever. Like they accused him of. but I was at that nigger house before, you know what I'm saying? Like I bought some weed from dude, you feel like, and that was my, my homie, big brother friend. You know what I'm saying?

A nigga named Ethan or some shit, you know what I'm saying? Then when I came back to Chicago in 2016, they had my homie Gotti had called me out there like, hey, bro, you know that nigger, I got killed. Ooh, I'm what? Like, he, hell yeah. And I'm like, damn, like, and then later on down the line, I ended up finding out that TAKE was locked up for that same shit. I'm like, this shit is small world.

So I'm like, asking my homies like, do y'all even know him because I went from out here and you're like no we don't know him you know what I'm saying like he's just a fan and he just happened to mention him that's crazy you know what I'm saying like that shit though I fuck with his music he actually likes with that shit too no yeah the take hey thing we were all talking about that the other day I mean that was that was a wild scenario where you had somebody who was just like really good but hadn't really popped off at all and then everybody basically found out about him at the same time at the exact moment that he got picked up for that case Yeah, because shit, like, he must know he was getting locked up with something because shit. He ain't even them to get to shoot another video or nothing. Like, he was already on the warrant. He had wanted posters in the video, you know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, that shit is crazy, though. He ain't even get to enjoy that shit, man.

No, definitely. But did it feel like kind of an honor to have TayK even mentioned his name? Yeah, that must have a big up, you feel, because that's a whole other side of the world, you know what I'm saying? And just, like, for bro to have that influence on the motherfucker. I'll be respecting that type of shit You know what I'm saying? That shit, love. So on the total opposite end of the respect spectrum,

how did you feel when you heard 6'9 using some of his lyrics and songs? Man, I ain't even hear that shit, to be honest. I'd just be seeing shit like that over the internet. Like, it's just certain motherfuckers I don't even entertain when I see their name. Like, his ass is a goofy. But when he was doing that at first,

it was, like, he used his lyrics before he's snitching stuff, right? So did you have a different perspective on it earlier when you first heard it? know like ever since i seen this ass i'm like man this ass weird you didn't have to snitch for you to think you was a boza i just was like bro i don't fuck with dude like you feel me like i ain't never really like his ass like that you feel me he just was like a a goofy you feel me and i could tell you feel me like yeah i hear it but it's lord though if he you feel me he shot the bro out but now it's like your ass overly rat it bro like fuck dude you feel because you're definitely from an environment

where you can't tolerate any degree of that right Hell no, I ain't with none of that, bro. A nigger told on my homie, like, and he's fighting for his life. From your perspective on some street shit, do you see people snitching way more these days? Because I always hear that from my friends out here who are still kind of in the streets or whatever. They're like, bro, it's just nothing like it used to be. Man, niggas been snitching. I don't know.

Like, this shit, like, this niggas been snitching, bro, since back then. Like, this shit ain't nothing new. They just be saying that because the young generation, you feel me? It's our time now, and you feel me, like, it's so much shit happening, you feel me that's going on, and all this shit is publicized. That's why the internet is relevant. You can see this shit all over, you feel me?

But back then, like, you ain't know what the fuck was going on in Georgia when you was in Chicago like that unless you was out there, you know what I'm saying? So a motherfucker didn't really know, but niggas been telling. When you saw, because there was a quote that you said that when the cops came to your mom's house to talk to them, that they actually were, like, basically telling her that what was the quote that they told her that they didn't give a fuck

yeah they was like they was just basically telling her like yeah we happy your son they and we're gonna kill your other two on my soul exact words right after dope my mom my sister spit on their ass and ran in the crib spit on them yeah whoa when they ran and they ran away from the cops just didn't try to follow them or anything holy shit that situation could turn bad they did but shit my fuck slam the door on their face they ain't tried to get in the crib of nothing you feel right is that like the attitude that you felt like you've dealt with cops over the years that they straight up don't give a fuck and like that they just really it's almost like a joke to them all the shit happening yeah like they they they want motherfuckers to die

you feel me like this is their whole purpose of how they even do the shit that they be doing like dirty police you know what I'm saying like they want the the worst for a motherfucker no matter what it is you feel me what they give you a lot of years of your ass down here you feel like they want that shit like they're happy they you doing their job for them that's how they look at this shit you know what I'm saying but I ain't gonna say that all that I'm gonna say that all that's why I'm all police is like that, you know what I'm saying? Because there's some motherfuckers that it's not tolerating the shit that these other police be doing. You know what I'm saying?

I don't even do have the shit that they be doing. Since I've been out, like, I've been seeing them kind of police because I've been around my neighborhood, you know what I'm saying? And they just be like, man, like we're not, you know what I'm saying? We're not trying to tell y'all y'all, y'all have to leave or no shit like that. You know what I'm saying? Just because y'all move your cops or something like that. You know what I'm saying? Back in the day, these old police had just stopped, get out, chase us already.

You know what I'm saying? Like, goddamn. You ain't told us shit. all we doing is walking or standing here. Y'all are already getting out the car. You know what I'm saying? Because it's however many of us. So you know what I'm saying?

We just look like something. You know what I'm saying? Like that shit just be crazy. But like I said, it's not all of them. But a lot of their guys be one of the worst for a motherfucker. This is their agenda. They plant shit on people. They do shit to just have you at your worst.

Right. And it feels like, you know, because I'm always interested in that dynamic between the people who are in the streets and the cops and stuff because they're saying there's like the worst for shootings in Chicago this summer that's been in years and years. Like, does it feel like that when you're out and about? Like, it just feels like shit is crazier. You would think with the coronavirus, people would be staying home more,

so it would be less opportunities to shoot each other. I mean, this shit the same shit to me. Like, that's how I look at it. Like, when you out and about throughout Chicago, you're not fend to just be seeing motherfuckers getting shot, like, unless it's you. You know what I'm saying? Like, you ain't fend to just be a witness to a motherfucking crime like that.

You know what I'm saying? You just go hear about it. You feel me? Like, see this shit. Motherfugers talk about this shit on social media. You know what I'm saying? Everybody in Chicago. Everybody know everybody.

You feel me. So word travel fast out there. You know what I'm saying? So you would just hear about it. You know what I'm saying? Just get the call or something. But unless you was dead with a motherfucker, but when you were in the mix,

you don't be thinking about that shit. You know what I'm saying? You just see the articles and shit. Like they're the motherfuckers who are paying attention to this shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, this shit been going like this for years for us. Like, this is our whole lifestyle.

You know what I'm saying? So we're not really panicked. We're not looking at it from no number's perspective, really. That's fair you. What was the situation with this video that went viral of y'all running up on Rico Reco Reckless and trying to figure out what his problem was? Oh, yeah, like his ass is a goofy, too, you feel him? He's another 6-9-n-knit-knig, but you feel me?

Heard he got an Onlyfans. I don't know what's to him. I don't keep up with his ass, but... Okay. Yeah, I guess he had said some shit about my brother, you feel me? But I never really heard the shit. I guess I was locked up when I heard the shit, you feel? me like but then I got out you feel me and I was uh on this around the time my

mixtap was just going crazy you feel me so he had a song on that like he remixed black youngster birthday you feel me and I heard him like shout out my brother you feel me like he was like free spas RP Papi or some shit you feel me so I'm like what the fuck like this nigga weird you feel me like so when I seen them I'm just like you feel me I know you said free spas RP Papi but did you say you feel me like fuck bro type see you feel me so that's what the whole thing was you feel like that's what the whole thing was you feel me but he basically saying like I don't I don't even know what the fuck he was saying it just it didn't like once he said he said like you know what I'm saying the

disrespectful shit it was just like it's that you feel me like motherfuckers on that with you you feel so what happened in that actual video like was what was that physical altercation like because you can't really see it in the video you just hear it my homie bust his ass foe his ass was beating his ass you feel we all got to beat his ass and his ass was crying all type of shit but you feel me of course he's gonna make it seem like some whole other shit But he was out there by and so none of his people helped him. You feel him? You feel like, motherfucker beat his ass and get out of the police came.

We have to check it to a whole other hotel type of shit. Wait, where was that? In Atlanta. Oh, that was in Atlanta. Yeah, that was just some whole ironic shit too. Because a motherfucker told us, y'all are from the running to Rico Records right now, right? A motherfucker told us, man, y'all for the running to Rico Records. We, man, get too goofers.

Soon as the motherfucker out of the elevator, my homie con. Like, bro, Rico Reckles in the lobby. Y'all, what? We down, your ass tweaking. That shit funny as here. What the fuck? That's weird as fuck when, like, the Chicago, like, there's been a couple different situations over the years where different Chicago guys run into each other in different

states. Yeah. Where they, like, presumably don't have it on them and it's just weird-ass arguments slash fight situations ensue and shit. You know, a couple in the mall over the years and shit. Yeah, man, that shit be ironic as hell. God damn. So in terms of, like, your music career, like, like, what's your perspective on it and stuff?

I still see you making moves and shit. I was, you had the NLE chopper fucking collab from like a year ago or whatever. That was pretty crazy. Yeah, that shit went crazy. I had drove out there to Memphis and fucked with him. You know what I'm saying? One of my cameramen's had told me to come out there and do it with him.

He was fucking with me, you know what I'm saying? So we did that, shot the video. You feel me? Like, we had freestyle the song, you know what I'm saying? So in the video, I don't even remember the song. I'm like, damn, bro. And then we didn't even get the song mixed at first. You know what I said?

We just did the song. All right, come on, let's go shoot the video. So when we was playing the song, like, we couldn't really hear the lyrics or nothing. So I'm like, damn, bro, I don't remember what the fuck I said. You know what I'm saying? So that's why the video is how it is. I couldn't even, you know what I'm saying, get in my mold how I wanted to. But yeah, that shit definitely went crazy.

But I ended up getting locked up right after I did that shit. I never even got to, you know what I'm saying, like really enjoyed the fruit stuff. You feel? Yeah. I was locked up when that shit got released and everything. Right. Damn. That's what you get locked up for that time?

I got, they charged you with an armed violence, you know what I'm saying? Possession of firearms. And drugs, but I play it out till you family possession of a firearm. It took two years at 50%. So you ended up doing a year? Yeah, I ended up doing 10 and a half months. I got 45 days, good time. Okay.

Are you fucking sick of going to jail at this point? Yeah, yeah. It's got to be getting old, right? I can't be steady going back to jail. I just did 10 and a half months straight. You know what I'm saying? I was down there. I was really fucking with a lot of older motherfuckers.

You know what I'm saying? He was talking to me, you know what I'm saying? Really trying to get me to understand a lot of shit, you know what I'm saying? Then my support system on the outside, you know what I'm saying? They was really getting to me, you know what I'm saying, letting me know that I have to focus on what it is that I won out of life, you know what I'm saying, to really be a successful growing me in society, you know what I'm saying? And I was playing a lot of chess, you know what I'm saying,

reading a lot of books. Oh, that's tough. So I really utilized my time to my advantage, but I can't have got no more time to get that shit, hell no. Right. Do you, does his name, like, is it still, like, as soon as you get locked up, is it just immediately like, oh, that's Papi's brother, like, oh, like, is everybody still, is the topic of conversation? That's how it is with any motherfucker known in Chicago. You don't even got to be a rapper. Like, you could just be a motherfucker that a rapper homie. Like, a motherfucker going to be knowing as soon as you come in like, oh, that's dude.

You feel, me. Like, period. Like, because everybody knows everybody in Chicago. Definitely. How do you feel about, like, a lot of the newer talent? There's been, like, a lot of different artists coming out of Chicago kind of blowing up. And a lot of them are more like Polo G and Juice World recipes who are kind of more on, like, the melodic tip. Like, sort of like, left a lot of the dream.

real stuff behind in a way. Yeah, that shit, that shit go crazy. Both of them be going crazy. You feel me? Juice World, he really elevated this shit to a whole other level. Like, Polo G, he go crazy too, you feel me, my boy, cowboy, yeah, motherfucker. They all, they all. Dirk, you feel me?

All they, yeah, I support all that shit. That is motivational to see Dirk and Herbo still being super relevant. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They've been Nick Herb, that's my boy. I fuck with him the long way. Like, that's one of my favorite artists, you feel, me, out of Chicago. But it definitely is. They've been going strong for them in the team.

years now. So are you still motivated to keep going with your rap career? Is that every times where you feel like just doesn't feel like the same as before your brother passed? I mean, sometimes, you know, you always got them days that's harder than others, but overall hell, yeah, I'm still motivated, you know what I'm saying? Because I feel like I just, I ain't reached the level where I want to be, you know what I'm saying? And of course, there's more things that I want to do in life, you know what I'm saying, besides rap, so, but I'm just using that as a stepping stone, you know what I'm saying? Plus my family, you know what I'm saying, been doing music for years like this shit my daddy used to rap you know what I'm saying like my granddaddy

had a uh an R&B group called the notations they actually had like was big back in the day had like a number four hit record or some shit you know what I'm saying like hell yeah like I was just uh posted a picture of my granddaddy and james brown on instagram you know what I'm saying like my family been doing this shit you know what I'm saying so hell yeah like I'm just musically this shit is embedded in me so I'm definitely motivated to keep going dad and stuff. It just makes me think about how hard it must have been to see his son, like, get so close to, you know, really taking into the next level and to have lost him at that time. Do you feel, like, do you, have you ever had that conversation in your dad about how

hard it is for him to live with that? No, everybody in my family, like, we really not that, you know what I'm saying? When it comes to shit like that, we're not that confrontational. So, you know what I'm saying? Everybody just really grieving their own type of way, you know what I'm saying? I hear that. Yeah, it's got to be at a certain point. hard to talk about, huh?

Hell, yeah. Damn, I feel it. So, yeah, any, what are your plans, like in terms of moves that you're making going forward and shit? Man, for this summer, man, I'm really trying to drop an album, you know what I'm saying? Get something going with that, drop a lot of visuals, you know what I'm saying?

Get some old features, like I said, my boy, little TJ fucking with me. Little Mozy hit me up when I was locked up, you know what I'm saying? Oh, that's dope. Reached out to me trying to do something. So I'm actually was looking to meet up with him while I was out here now, you know what I'm saying?

Try to get both of them on the album, I'm saying and just take this shit to the next level for 2020 2020. 2020. We're about to be 2021. That's scary, though. We miss most of 2020. Hell, yeah. And then I was locked up for this shit then.

When this corona shit first went down, like, man, the jail shit went haywire, you know what I'm saying? You were locked up when you found out about it. Yeah. Oh, man. This corona shit first really started getting relevant in jail around December. Then, like, February, they, like, put us on lockdown, like, all together. Like, no inmate movement. Like, you don't leave the dorm.

None of that shit. So we just seeing that show on the news. The number study increases. Then that shit finally hit the U.S. and then they just, this shit, getting really serious. Then that's just start hitting the jails. And then it's just like, what the fuck? Then I'm like, man, I just hope they guys let me out.

I don't want to stay in here for this shit. Did they lay you out early because of it? Hell no. Oh, no. They let motherfuckers go from the county, though, but shit, they want it all their time out of me. Damn. That's fucked up.

Yeah. God damn. All right, so anything else we missed? Anything we got to talk about that you got on the way? man I got this game with part two on the way you know what I'm saying that's one of my hottest songs you know what I'm saying they fuck with so I got that part two come and make you y'all stay tuned for that back to myself album on the way this summer make sure y'all stay tuned for that man shout out my whole team man shout out lute you know what I'm saying

you know how we coming man shout out luci man shout out b you free my big brother man shout out the chance takers you know what I'm saying shout out my super producer 12 million you know what I'm saying shout everybody in my corner man on my side all my family my sister's my my daddy, you know what I'm saying? Everybody that hold it down, you know what I'm saying? Shout out the mother of my child, you know what I'm saying, for burying my child, you know. I'm going to everybody go follow me right now, Instagram, Twitter, at Real Taysab, you know what I'm saying. There it is.

Hey, man. It was an honor. I really appreciate you helping us out with the Chicago history lesson and shit. It's very important that we don't forget all the great artists that we lost over the years. Max. You know, I fuck with your music too, and I think you've got a lot of potential. So you got to keep going with that shit for sure. Thank you.

I want to say thank you for even having me on here. You know what I'm saying? It's an honor to be here. You know what I'm a big fan. Like I said, I had Joe magazine when I was locked up. The penthouse left. You know what I'm saying? I can't believe that.

I can't. That's the first time that anybody ever told me they had that in prison. And that is such a crazy compliment. I was, man, send me every new addition. Then they stopped letting me get in that shit. I'm man, they're some goofies. I might have to send a box out to all my homies are in jail. I didn't even think of that.

Yeah, that shit. Go crazy. All right. Well, hey, I appreciate you, Taysav. It's been a good time, man. Thank you. Appreciate your time. Nojumber coolest podcast in the world. Check us on YouTube, SoundCloud, iTunes. Like, comment, subscribe. Nojumber.com. If you want to support, appreciate y'all.