No Jumper - Yung Bleu on Signing to Boosie, Leaving His Label, Meek Mill Managing Him & More

Episode Date: September 1, 2020

Yung Bleu sits down with Adam to talk about his relationship with Boosie, Meek Mill, his new project, signing new artists and being completely hands on about his business! ----- FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 FOLLOW OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/529mn7of2HBKdLfrAMUzcK?si=rWVBWCuWSXeh0TFYb2P-dQ CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/nojumper iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/no-jumper/id1001659715?mt=2 Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/No-Jumper-198283650194402/ http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 and adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumper coolest podcast in the world. And today we got Young Blue on the show. How are you feeling, man? I'm feeling good, man. It's great. Yeah? Yeah, what I do? I'm feeling good, man.

It's nice to have you on the show. Oh, yeah. Definitely. Okay, so let's go back to the early days of Young Blue. Tell me a little bit about your upbringing where you're coming from. From Alabama, right? Yeah, I'm for Alabama. Alabama, we're like, we're a smile.

I ain't going to say we're a small state, but I'm from Mobile, Alabama. Ben there one time because I used to look at Pensacola for a little while. Oh yeah. Cross on over. Oh, yeah. Awkward little time zone problem going there. You can just like head on over, drop 20 minutes to the right. Yeah.

Time changes. Very confusing. Yeah. Yeah. So, Mobile, like, we, you know, we're getting our love right now in the music industry. You know, we got, you know, a lot of artists coming out of the city right now, Flo Miller. Oh, she's great. No cap.

Rallo, you know. So, yeah, we got a lot of. a wave going on right now. Did you feel that way when you were younger, though, in terms of, like, there being a significant amount of younger talent from there? Gucci Man from Alabama originally, right? Yeah, but he ain't from my part. Yeah.

I feel like if he don't claim it, then I can't really say you from now, you know what I'm saying? He claimed Atlanta. So. But when you were a kid, were you looking at it, like, oh, I'm from a place that has a significant amount of rappers from here and whatnot? Nah, because we didn't have no rappers when I was going on. We had a rich boy at that time, probably like, it was like 2008. Yeah, 30s on that bitch.

Yeah, so. Soundtrack for the summer. We had, I don't know if you know, we had T-bird, T-bird, he had a big, he had a big song. But other than that, it was just like, we had local rappers that was, you know, C-9, Mr. Big. Mr. Big, Mr. Big, Mr. Big was kind of big, too. Over him, yeah. Yeah, so, yeah, we had, yeah, we had a little sprinkler, sprinkled here and that. Right.

Okay, so you're just a kid, were you always attracted to music? Oh, yeah, like my brother and stuff did music, my dad did music, so it was just always in me to do music, like from the get-go. Just always into music for anything to do with music. Was it, like, rap or more singing and shit? I used to, it was always rapping stuff.

I used to record on my karaoke machine, like, take it to school, or record it on my phone, just take it to school, like, on a bus and stuff like that. And, you know, yeah, anything. to do music for real. What were they playing around you as a kid though? I grew up on like a lot of, my mama used to play like Lauren here a lot of time, you know, Vansbrow, the classics for real. You know, I grew up on like Boots and stuff like that. That's my era, you know what I'm saying? So yeah, like Tupopop, like a lot of old shit.

Right. So you feel like you were always sort of more attracted to the soulful element side of making music rather than like the lyrical sort of style that a lot of people sort of like people grow up with that idea in their head is like the goal of being an artist is to be mr mega technical rapper guy yeah no i used to think like that because i used to back in the day i used to rap like Wayne i used to uh say i used to try to do like punch lines and stuff like that uh be lyrical and stuff like that uh and then as i grew up my voice got deeper uh and then i really started seeing a shift in the game to where it really wasn't needed anymore, you know what I'm saying?

So I was like, you know, I come with punchlines here and now, but it's like from where I'm from the south, that's really not the big wave, like, literally. Like, if you were from the East Coast or, you know, somewhere else where I'm from, that's not really the wave. It's super hard to make it, like, just on some lyrical. Now, of course, we got, like, Jake Cole and stuff like that,

you know, from Carolinas, but, you know, he just amazing, you know what I'm saying? He just undeniable. amazing so you know it's like if you want to get by on just being a great rapper yeah it's like that's a very very select category of people that could fit into that whereas like you see it now that like most younger kids and you're kind of early on this yeah most young kids sort of recognize that the game nowadays is about making catchy-ass music music people can relate to soulful shit that people feel yeah you feel me yeah i caught on like i always uh like being kind of big in the underground space

because, you know, like my music, it sounds, it probably, I can't even really say I sound like a lot of people, but it's about something, you know what I'm saying? Like my music really be about stuff, whether there's a relationship stuff, where there's a street shit, you know what I'm saying? It really be a box stuff that would make it stick, really. Right. You know what I'm saying. I mean, usually like young boy and Kodak are kind of like two of the biggest, most influential rappers in terms of like young people in the South in particular. And like what do they do? Like yeah, they rap, but they also like really are giving you some, some emotion more so than anything else.

Yeah, you feel me. Yeah, so I feel like they started that whole way with, well, I ain't started, but they took it to a main screen with the pain, the pain, talking about real situations. Because, you know, it was like, you didn't really have to talk about nothing. But now people like in their raw actually talking about some music right now, you know what I'm saying? You know, times change. It go up and down. Definitely. Okay, so tell me a little bit more about your childhood.

You were just sort of, you were interested in music and stuff, but what was school for you and whatnot? I used to be, like, back in school, I used to be, like, in the streets real heavy. Like, I used to stay in, like, a bad neighborhood when I was growing up. So once I moved out of that neighborhood and moved to, like, a better neighborhood

and went to a better school, that's when I really started getting into. to music because when I was in the other neighborhood, like when I'm from, I couldn't really, I used to like the rap and stuff, we used to rap in the hood and stuff, but I couldn't really put it together. Like, I ain't really see me making it nowhere.

It was just like, you know, we're just doing this shit in the streets, you know what I'm saying? But when I changed schools and got around different type of people, I'm like, yeah. So you moved or you just changed the scores? Oh, actually I just changed schools. Like they changed our district, so I was really still in the hood,

but they were letting us go to a better school, you know what I'm saying? So, yeah, I started seeing, like, more diverse people and just, you know, it wasn't really dead no more. Like, it wasn't surviving. Like, you know, it wasn't really screech shit going on. So I had time to, you know what I'm saying. That's really interesting because it feels like, you know, I see that as like I've said this before, but one of the things that I see most consistently with artists who end up being successful is that at some point in their life, they travel overseas. They, like, had a dad who they ended up in their business.

military and they're in Germany or some shit and they start to realize that the thing that makes you like everybody else wearing you're a kid and you're going to school and shit is also something that makes you stand out to the rest of the world like like a lot of your experiences that a lot of other people in your school had are like they completely stand out in comparison to most people yeah like it's crazy you really got to be able to you either going to wrap about it or you're going to live it you know what I'm saying most people you know they probably lived it they probably lived it before but you ain't gonna start really just secede with your music until you stop living it like it can be the most gangster gangster is rapper you know what

saying they ain't still in the hood they ain't still uh just you know every day like that because it's like you can't like you can't be totally focused on music to the point where you just been to blow up if you still in the street heavy like that so at one point of your career you're going to have a choice like what you want what you want to do like you want to take the music seriously because you already know what the street life on league so right yeah everybody every rapper had that choice when you say you were in the streets in school uh what does that translate to in terms of what kind of stuff you were getting into and when you getting arrested and shit or were you just running around you never got caught yeah like you know what

saying you know a couple of arrests but mainly you know just I ain't never really I ain't I ain't never used to be the the one that just gone be the one that pop pop stuff off you I used to be the one that just like, I'm cool on it, some stuff happening, you know what I'm saying, we get into some shit. We, you know, I'm riding with it, but I ain't fin to just go start nothing for nothing. So when I say, like, I was in the streets, going, like, going to school, then the environment that we came back to was like the hood hood, like, it's the hood hood, like, you know, they, they're selling drugs, you know, a lot of murders.

So that's what we came home from school, too. So after school, you know, we going to school with we send all this type of different environment when we get home, this is what we come home to. So that's why I mean like coming home to the street life. Like the only time we saw stuff when we went to school, like saw anything different for you. But you're seeing people like literally getting rich

off selling drugs or you're saying people, you know, you're allegedly knowing that people are killing people and stuff like that was a part of you that was like, man, fuck it, I want to make a shitload of money selling drugs or I want to be running around with guns. all this stuff or was there always a part of you that felt like you were meant for something more? Yeah, because I always felt like I was gonna be somebody

like my brother and the people before me had I already did all that. So I was like just sitting back watching them like, man, I don't wanna go to jail. Like I don't like I don't like jail. Like I like being free, you feel me. A few times with jail, I realized like bro, I do not like jail, you feel like this is not where I wanna be.

So it was, though you to pop out, I think. I was like, bro. You feel me? Like, we go do something stupid. You feel me? We end up making a mistake in killing somebody. Everybody going to jail for life. You know what I'm saying?

We end up just one little, you know what I'm saying? Little shoot out, one little thing. A bullet making mistake here's somebody. You know what I'm saying? We're all in jail for life. And a lot of my homeboys, they really, like, in jail right now, like for capital murder, like stuff like little fluke shit, you feel? And it's crazy because it's hard to, like, tell a young kid that that is a reality

of what might happen to him. I interviewed X-rated, and he, him and his boys, ran in somebody's crib over some beef shit like 25 fucking years ago and somebody's grandma got killed, not by him, but somebody else was shooting,

somebody's grandma got killed. He went away for 20 plus fucking years over some shit that happened when he was like 17 or something. And it's like, you know, he didn't do it, but he was there. And, you know, because everybody ain't going to care about the situation.

Like, you probably be going to rob somebody. You just really want to rob him. Like, but they'll probably be one. one person in that group like, I'm a shoot the, you feel me? Like, crazy something like that. Now, all y'all are you going for a, you know, a robber and a killing, that's cap, you know what I say, you never get in that. So, yeah, no, I always had my own mind.

Even when I was young, like I had an older, an older mind. Like, you know, you can get me into it. Like, now, I, I, I didn't mess up did some crazy stuff, but I always like, you know, been that kind of smart, smart one for real. So you start going to this other school and then you start starting to see like that your potential would you say like do you start to really picture yourself as being able to be a real recording artist and whatnot yeah because once i started getting in the studio

recording like it was they started using my songs to like run out to like run out at the game stuff like that yeah like i was like man that's got to be crazy you was to be a celebrity in high school yeah i was a little local celebrity like in at my school so i would think like yeah i could really do it I'll perform at the game stuff. So people actually, that was like, MySpace Day. So people actually like, working with the music. I was like, shit, I could do it.

That when I started to realize, I could really do this shit, you feel me? Damn. Yeah, yeah. So how did you start taking steps with that? Do you like have access to studios and whatnot? Or how are you even like figuring out how to get in the game?

Well, back in the day, like I had this little, I had the, I had the dope boy. He had came and scooped me up. And he would just, you know, just spend him, spending money on me go to the studio and stuff he saw i had talent let me go to the studio like when i was like 16 i had like you know what i said a record on the radio and stuff a record with a drummer boy right uh when i was like 16 it was like it was like a little big record i was going around doing shows

shout out drummer boy how did you even get talking to him though yeah we was just in the alana and the crazy story real we was just in alana one day and uh once we met him we were just going up to his house back and forth and uh One day, because my name was Young Blue, and I spelled it like the regular Blue Way. And one day he had, the song we did, he gave me a CD back, and it had it spelled like a different type of way.

And I was just like, man, shit, I like how that shit spilled. I'm gonna run with that. So he really, the reason behind how I spelled my name for real drunk was, yeah, you feel me. So, just because he's a little mistake that one day, I was like, man, that shit cool, you feel. It's different.

I felt like it was kind of different than just Young Blue, so I just ran with it, you feel, me. So yeah, that my dog, though. Where the blue originally come from, though? Man, any, you know, big story behind there. I really like just young, favorite color blue. I was just like young blue.

And I just ran with it. I ain't never want to change, though. I was like, shit, this, I might well run with it. Everybody, everybody knows me. Everybody just kind of blue. Everybody assumed you're a Crip rapper or not? Yeah, you know, a lot. At first, but I feel like, you know, I don't really,

I don't really get it a lot. not, now I was, I did part of one time in LA. Yeah, in LA, I can imagine that getting complicated real quick because there's a lot of people looking to get offended out here. Hey, man, I'm talking, we're in the party. We just, we, because my girlfriend, Interscope, Barryline had invited me to a party. And so we just in the party, you know,

we partying everybody having a good time. So we walked downstairs, me and my home, but we walked downstairs. And it was the click of dudes, they were just at the top. And they wouldn't even worry about us at first, then they were just bumping, they just looked. And I guess he saw my chain, you feel, me.

He just started staying hard. He started tapping these other homeboys and shit, you feel me? And I ain't gonna lie. I'm just like, man, we in LA. We don't know nobody. These, they nika slapboxing outside and shit. I'm like, bro, we got to slapboxing. Energy.

You start thinking like, how long until this turns real? Hey, I was just like, man, we gotta get up out of here, bro. They didn't turn into anything? No, we had just a little. Yeah, because we started, I just like, the room was loud, bro. But once, bro, like, saw our chain, like, I just, like, saw my chain, and I don't know if he just felt like, because they were blood, you feel, I don't know if he just felt like I was a cripple or something, you feel me.

Everything just kind of, like, got quiet. And it was just like, four that niggas of that bit, you feel me, just looking, kind of staring, you feel like, man, we just feeling gone. He wasn't, like, four, but I was like, we just feeling to gone, strike out. We don't even know none of these people. We didn't candy, people part. We don't need nobody got that. Right.

We finished a deal. So you start, you're getting a little bit of a local buzz in high school and stuff? Like, how do you start progressing and moving along with that? Well, I mean, I just already recorded. I used to put our music as back to back and back to back. I really came up in the mixtape where, like, you know, everybody in the South is going to start, like, in the Mississippi area. Then you're going to go through the Carolinas.

gonna go to like to Texas and shit like that so I was just dropping mixtape doing all of um doing all the market then I started like uh when I used to drop it used to just all the mixtakes site my shit used to be like number one on all the mixtap site you know what saying so I was like man shit I got something you feel my beginning started getting booked for show like I started at like five hundred dollars a show and I just bumped up to like five grand you feel like oh this shit real I started just moving around like that everybody just started like on the underground scene and then once I dropped my third project uh that's when like one of my big hits came which one is that that was uh miss it was the first one but before before miss it like

i had a lot of like songs that everybody knew like in the streets like you feel me like i was setting our shows of jurs and everything before miss it you feel me right so i had like i was in the Mix tape where are you feeling? And what year are we talking about that this is all starting to pop off for you? They were like 2017. Okay. So is it still pretty recent, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Because you're saying mixtapes, you're talking about like mixtape websites, not like selling mixtape at the store. Yeah, like mixtape where it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, it's been real of my mistake. So when do you start make the connection? Because I feel like for me and a lot of other people, we first found out about you when you linked up with Bousie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How did that happen from, like, how you take your, like, how you take your, like buzz that you have there coming out of high school and shit and sort of transfer that over

to Lincoln with him. It was kind of natural, like I said, I hit his brought up because I was looking at his page and I tell this story all the time, but I was looking at his page and I was like, man, Booth ain't got right back. He probably got a thousand niggins in his deal. So I was like, man, I said, let me go on his page and find somebody that probably ain't got a lot of followers for real like that. So I had went to Tkar page and I hit him. I was like, man, I got this song. I want to see. to you. He hit me back with like, hit me in the email. So I sent him the song in the email. They called me A-Sap on three-way. They were like, man, we're trying to fly you down in LA. Like, I mean, you're trying to fly you down to Atlanta. Like, Boose would want to talk to you.

I just went down now, you know, we just chopped it up and we just started making music and stuff. That when I were working on like in Vatma 3. Bousie got so many kids that I think I assumed that you were one of his kids. Yeah. Like, I apologize, but like he has multiple kids. of his that are making music. I don't know why, but I like assumed. Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, I don't know. That's just my big dog. Right. You ever have a Boocy Fade at one point? Yeah, yeah. Everybody, everybody in the song. Like, bro, booze.

Like, people don't understand, like, who Boocy is to us. Like, where I'm from, like, boost it, like, pop, like, real time. Jay Z in New York, Boosies like that to that certain part of the South for sure. Like, yeah, so it's like, people don't understand that from other places sometimes, you know what I'm saying. Right. So what was it like when you actually linked up with him? And was he trying to sign you immediately? Yeah, like they were trying to sign me immediately. Like when I came down now, or we were just talking it up.

You know, me, I'm hype. I'm like, I'm ready, you feel? I'm ready for anything. Right. Yeah, so it was cool. Like I said, I felt that family clicked right away, you feel, because I've been knowing, bro, music. And down there, that one of my favorite rappers, like really my favorite rapper.

so I knew everything about him for real like that. I watched all the DVDs, everything. So I already felt like I knew him when I went up there. I was just like, made some music. It's crazy though, because you met like adult Boosey versus like wild ass boot. I'm sure you're still kind of wild, but wild boozy from before. Like we've all heard stories. Yeah, yeah, he definitely cool.

He's definitely cool, now. Yeah. You still got it, you know, he's still got their ways, but yeah, he's definitely cool now. So you guys are starting making music together right away? Yeah, he had hosted. I hosted Investments 3, that was like my third mixtape. Right. And that was the one that went crazy.

He had hosted like the whole tape. When that one dropped like, Screeze, I had one up about 10, 10, 10, 15, a show got down. So I was just moving around like crazy when that, after that drop. So, yeah, and he was telling me like, right before I dropped the mixtape, he was like, man. Because I was like, man, yeah, bro, about two years, like, we're feeling of be doing some big things. Bro, I'm going to show you. I'm going to make you proud. And he was like,

Nick, two years. He was like, two years. He was like, this shit, but the gold nine. Yeah. So as soon as I put it out, that bitch,

it was gone. It was gone, you feel me. So, yeah, I'm always, fuck with Booz. Because that was that

kind of like the first person that you knew or had anything to do with who was like really, yeah, who had really made it in the game. So through him, you're seeing like a shitload of stuff

that you've never really seen before in terms of the life. Yeah. You know what? And that's, like, I incorporate, It's a lot of stuff that I took from that situation

and incorporated into my own, you know what I'm saying, in my own labor, my own artist. Like, just the way he had me around and everything. It was just like family type. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't like, you couldn't really tell it was business until you were ready to sign the contract. And so it was like real, like family.

Like, I used to go in a bro closet and just find me something to where up in my video shoes and shit like that. Like, it was just like, but go on that find you on the world. He ain't out of nothing. Like, he had a whole closet full of shit. Like, you go in there and find me something like, fresh a hell, every video.

You feel. So you feel like he fully, like, embraced you, like, one of his own? Yeah. Yeah, for so. For sure. For sure. That's dope. Yeah.

So, okay, you, but that was a couple years ago, and, like, you were grinding. Were you, like, did you spend a lot of time with him? Or, like, how did this storyline go, like, in terms of that initial wave of, like, you being in the studio and you actually being out there? Like, how long did you stick with that? I stuck with it for a long time. Like, because, you know, we'll do shows together,

and I had got big enough to the point where, like, you know, we were doing joint shows and stuff. We still ain't did that joint album yet. But you guys recorded a lot together, but it just never became an album? Yeah, yeah, because, you know, it's just, like, different situations. I think I was in the,

because, like, six months after me signed into Abusa, I had a major deal. On the table? I signed a major deal with bad ass in Columbia. Okay. Yeah, and after that, I was working on my album.

He was working on here, but I'd go down to the house and we'll just link up and do music and stuff. Sometimes it was like, I got my whole schedule over here, you feel, you got your whole schedule, but you know what it is, you feel?

When you chose to you to deal with Columbia, did that change your life? Like, you probably had a bunch of labels barking at it? Not you. Yeah. But no, the crazy thing is like, the, the labels ain't started hitting me up until I signed in Columbia.

Like, when the Columbia deal was on the table, like, that was the only deal on the table, you feel me. Soon as I signed that deal, every label, I'm like, man, bro, I could have got way more money. Right. It's always like that. Once they realize that there is one label who's actually going to cut a check for hundreds of thousands of dollars, they all want to give you that exact amount. or more yeah it's crazy and he would crowd like man dang i could have had a whole bin bit more but

you know what i'm saying it's cool all these labels that ain't that many fucking people with actual opinions in all of them combined there's not that many people that really have taste they're just kind of doing what they got to do to keep their job and to fucking keep their boss thinking that they're really doing something man well i'm over i'm over the major label shit right now right now you see i ain't gonna say i'm just totally out my mind but right now in the position that i'm in right now shit I'd have made way more money independent you feel me really yeah way more so you're not with columbia anymore no no no I ain't with so you signed a deal for what like X amount of projects or what was the idea no I had I had like four projects I put like within that first year I put out like

two records that went gold one um went one on really supposed to be double platinum right now but it was originally uploaded to live mixtape's channel and And it did 100 million screens on live mixed H channel and I couldn't count none of the screen for RAA. So, you know, I still came back and went, went gold. It's really, like, I'm pretty sure it's like coming up on platinum right now, but it would be double platinum.

So, but yeah, within that year, like, I put out like two gold records. And after that, it was kind of like, they were just getting other artists, new artists over there. And I don't feel like, I feel like, you know, they based in New York, So I feel like they was going towards that situation more than what I had. You know, this little kid from Alabama had going on.

So I was just like, you know, I was on their ass. I was like, man, you know, y'all ain't got to do nothing else for me. You know, just let me go. We're good. Like, we're good. Like, I ain't going to talk shit about y'all or nothing. They just let me go. And they eventually came around on that.

And they did. Yeah, they were bucking at first just trying to, you know, explain to me this and that, this and that. But then I gave him another chance. Then after about like six more months went by, but I was just like, man, you know, I'm ready to dip, you feel me. So I'll cool my A&R, so, you know, he made it happen for me for real. That's interesting.

So were you going to Bussey and trying to like ask him and like figure out how the fuck this is going on? Because you expect them, they give you a bunch of money, you expect them to care about that money that they gave you enough that they're gonna actually work hard to make you bigger. No, that would I don't mad at. Because when I first signed them, they didn't even give me a lot of money.

Right. Like, they ain't even give me. Like, the deal wasn't big for real. Like, I made a million dollars in show money, but I ain't never make no money from the label for real. You know what I'm saying? I wouldn't say that if they fought, but I know for sure, for sure that,

I know for sure that they made all their money back plus more because, you know, I ain't getting no money and shit. My shit over here doing hundreds of millions of screens. on Apple, you feel me, like, I know y'all making your money back, so it's like, you know, and y'all ain't put none in to me to promote me for real more than what I'm doing myself. So I was like, what's the reason for me to be, like, I'm at the same level I was when y'all came and got me, you feel me, what's the reason for me giving y'all this big of a percentage, you feel me, like, if I'm still like, you know, I got my core fan base, but y'all ain't

really put no money in to make me bigger. So it's like, I'm just splitting, splitting the power of child for nothing, you I could just be getting the money myself. Yeah. That's why I was. If you ever had all those labels, like, really fighting against each other, then you might have been able to really get the payday from that signing. Yeah, you feel me.

But I just made up, like, you know, just me being a hustler. Like, I'm just, I just made, I just made up for it and just put it in my head that my next situation was going to be way better. And I just built up. I just looked at it, like, I'm going to show my worth bill, my leverage over here. So by the time I went to another label, like, I had, proof of my numbers and stuff, like what I could do, you feel me, what am I already doing?

So it was easy for me to get way bigger deals with less stuff I had to give up after I got out that situation. It just must be really frustrating because you're like a young artist coming out for the first time. And you know that the first time that they're seeing you is a lot of times that's gonna be the most exciting time for a lot of people.

So it's like if you have a wave of momentum going and then the label sort of drops the ball, then it's like, you know, I was going here. Like now I'm gonna have to get hot again. And now it's like the work that I did a couple years ago It doesn't matter as much as it would have been If I had been snowballing And people don't know

That's why a lot of artists get into that Because you really gotta have the mind for this shit Like if you don't got the mind for like you gonna break Because a lot of artists get People be thinking people like Oh he he's falling off He must be lazy He don't be that all the time

People really be in limbo with these labels Because these labels get to a point where They get sidetracked Like they could be loving your shit ready to push you and then something else getting hot over here and they don't really have that much that much stuff you feel me so they're gonna put all

their shit a lot of time but they'll be taking the money you making and putting it into other artists like real shit that shit grimey bro like they'll take the money that you making and believe in another artist better than you and go put it into that orders put the profit that you making into another artist so if you can't really

see that because you know some some artists most artists really they ain't really too much into their business like that So I was like on their head, like all the time. I was into my business and that was really irritating them. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't need my manager to hit you up. Like, I don't really need that. Like, I know what I want.

I know what I expect. So that was kind of what the problem was coming in. Because I was knowing too much. Like, I knew too much, you know what I'm saying? So they don't be wanting you to really know too much. I don't care. They don't be wanting you to know a lot for real like that. It's funny because like from being at labels and shit,

Sometimes you'll see a dynamic where there's the really fucking popular artist on the label who is Doesn't give a fuck about what the label's doing they want to be off the label They're fucking so over the label But on the other side you have the artists that have been signed for a couple years that buzz sort of started a wear off Etc. And those people want the label to help them so bad And it's just this bizarre thing where it's like if you need the help then you want the fucking label to help you and if you've already made it then a lot of times the label seems like what the fuck am I going you a percent

percentage everything. Yeah, you feel me. So yeah, that'd be the situation. But just my point about that situation is like I had already captured a core fan base before. Like I ain't just blow up out the blue. Like when I, you know, I had songs

on the radio for like, you know, dim two records. But before that, like I said, I was in the mixtape where I had a catalog in the mixtape where so after those radio records, like I was still able and still able to go back to the street, you feel

me, like go back to the streets and hustle up in the streets, you feel me, and then when I'm ready, you know, go back and do radio when I want to, because I'm making more money. But like I said, if you don't got that core fan base, you ain't really got nothing to fall back on, you feel, me, once you, you know,

that's why I put it into my artist, like, we can't just come and, yeah, I got the money to do it, but we can't just come and go straight the radio. Like, you know what I'm saying? You're going to blow it too fast, you feel. You got to, you got to do some shows in the trenches, you know what I said? You got to come up and build that solid fan base or when the labor, like, fuck you right now. You understand me? Like, you got something

a foul back on, like, because if you, you ain't got another fireback on, that's when people, you know, go to their decline. So I feel like, you know, I ain't ever hit, I ain't ever hit that decline. I just, you know, I ain't really got to that pinnacle or where I got bigger. So sometimes that'd be just as worse, you feel. Me? So, but people try them niggas that underground though i ain't i ain't a lot like being underground really good like i'd really be the biggest underground orders i can be for real like i ain't never really got to get big like that because it's like once you get big like that it's so much that you got to do to stay there you feel once you're underground you know people just love your shit oh he's so slept

on he underrated you feel me you feel me people try for you because people like underdog but it's like when you make it you make it people want anything to say oh he's so slow. Oh, he fell out. He fell out. He ain't this no more. He ain't how old as he was right there. You know what I'm saying? But do you see people trying to throw that argument at you?

Like, oh, he fell off because of the label thing didn't work off or whatever. Like, you don't, how do you feel about that? Yeah. I don't feel like, I ain't gonna lie. Like, my recent shit didn't been, like, my recent shit didn't been posted on the, like, on some of the most worst blogs with the worst comments. People going to say what's on their mind. You already know.

Right. And all my recent shit, like, I don't, I don't never see no comments. People saying, I felt like, I feel like, I fell out for none of that shit. So I'm like, shit, you know. Because people are going to speak their mind. They feel like that, you feel like me. I guess they feel like I never really had a song so big to where, like,

they just been underground hits. If you had the one song with, you know, 500 million YouTube views, then a lot of times that fuck shit up because then it's like you have something that you really got to live up to. All your shit was still kind of like hood classics and like street anthem type shit, you know? Yeah, you feel. And it never really got too big to where it's like uncontrollable.

You know what I'm saying? Because after that, shit, now you got to hit $500 million on every that damn song after that. That's like the situation with, you know what I'm saying? Season 9, like, shit, okay, when you got out of jail,

look what you did, you know what I'm saying. Now you got to do that shit every time, you feel me? Now how long you think you're going to be able to do that shit? And now when you don't make the top 100 or whatever, everybody's looking to you. You're like, oh shit, so you're not hot. Okay, we're just going to look away

when we might never look back. Yeah, we might never start paying attention again. And it creates, yeah, it creates that illusion as if you, you know, it's just that fallout culture, you know what I'm saying? It's just that fallout culture. So, you know, like, but if you really grind and grind and grind your way up,

like people like, I'm trying to give examples. Like, you know, I can use Boost as example. Booth's ain't had no mainstream hit in a minute, but Booth is still digging, you know what I'm saying? money for shows, you know what I'm saying? People, he's still relevant. Like, geez it.

He still sell out shows. Like, these people didn't have catalogs, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, you can't really cancel them because they didn't have so many underground classics that by the time they get that big one, it's just like, okay, he got a big one now. But we still, so what? Did you ever start to lose the passion for the music along the way? Getting frustrated with industry shit and whatnot?

Oh, yeah, yeah. I ain't never lost the passion. for the music but I yeah I can't say that like I had got to the point with to the label and I was like man I just I want to get out this fucking label so bad like I can't because I was seeing what needs to be done but it's like I had to tell people what need to be done you feel me I'm like y'all the label y'all should be telling me you know what I'm saying but that's what I was learning though I I ain't really realized that your team got to be doing, they don't really do nothing but blow up what you already got going.

Like to, in a labor eyes, and it ain't really, I can't even really say it's the label fault, you feel it? Like, I ain't even really here to dis labels like that. I'm just saying, in a label eyes, they sign in hundreds of artists, right? So they've been to see who going to work, who's going to work. So if this person working, this is what they putting their money in behind. You know, they're just coming up, you know what I'm saying? It ain't really nothing personal.

It's just that this shit working over here, you know what I'm saying? It's just what they put their money behind. So it ain't really nothing bad. I could say about it. It's just that they probably don't be your vision for yourself, you know what I'm saying? But just because you feel like something else working, that don't mean my shit can't work. You know what I'm saying? My shit probably just take a little longer.

They probably be from a big-ass city with so many millions of people. And they just drop some shit, you know, I'm smaller. This still probably be a good. song but it probably take a minute to like it took miss it like a year to to to blow up like so everybody ain't the same so but they just in the business of artists blowing up like and taking that and and and taking credit for the shit for real like if he ain't already blowing up or any if he ain't not really like a thing they ain't going to put no money into blowing it up no more that's not the business no more like they ain't going to take this record oh this a good record this a hit we all think

this a hit let's go blow it up They ain't in that game. We can think it's a hit. We've been to put it out. If the people don't immediately feel like it's a hit, it was good. Let's on to the next room. I've seen it over and over where the labels

kind of sabotage the artist too because they'll put out a project. The project will not do well because the label's not helping them at all and et cetera. And then when the project doesn't do good, that's like evidence. Like, oh, this is why we're not putting time or everything into it.

And that's kind of like a super consistent thing too. It's sort of set you up to feel like that. That's why you just got to get into like when you first signed a deal, you, like, you really had, I ain't really had no leverage, so I couldn't really say, I, y'all are going to allocate me this budget so I could do my own shit when y'all ain't doing shit, you feel me, if y'all don't want to move on some shit, I got this budget allocated to where I could do my own shit. And right now I got that lyrics to do that, so I could do everything I want to do, like,

with my new situation, like, you got to give me this. Like, you ain't know, man, y'all going up. y'all gonna put it on radio y'all gonna put in i think this the one like shit what we gonna do right and then they they ain't gonna do nothing but keep you know uh saying we discussing it and they just gonna keep giving you to run around but if you got this budget allocated to you it's like yeah you got you got you got to give me this like i want to i want to do this like you got to get me this so but you got to have lyrics to you know what i said i negotiate them kind of did you tell boozy when you decided you were leaving columbia or how was that a conversation oh yeah yeah he like

But who's new that I could, you know what I'm currently like I've got so many laborers like trying to sign me so like a deal really ain't really too too much for me right now you know what I'm saying I feel like I want to get more leverage you feel me even that than what I got right now I want to write independent for you know what I'm saying

some time before I just think about getting into another labor situation for real you know what I'm saying just because I want to run the bag of it. So you decided to be fully independent for the time being and not, you know, but have you entertained the meetings with labels and whatnot? Yeah, I always entertain them because I'll be like, you know, it takes so, it takes so much, uh, time and talking and getting to, you know what I'm saying that, you know, by time, I'm at this, you know, independent situation, I'm ready to sign a deal. We probably be not ready than made friends, being cool, you know what I want, you know what I'm saying,

I know what they expect from y'all, but when you first signed a deal, it's just like, shit. I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready to sign of deal. Like, fuck it. I'm gonna fuck with the country. I mean, you're lucky to even be in the position to be out of the original deal because the story of so many artists that have been signed over how many years is that like, you know, even somebody like Taylor Swift, she's fucking locked into this deal for like, that she signed when she was like 15 or 16 and she just is like stuck.

Yeah. Like a seven, eight album deal. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I say it's about what kind of deal it is too. because I would say like just from that situation me going through that with

like my deals that I did with my artists like they out they they they from how I got treated you feel me like I got treated like so bad I was like man I'm gonna make sure I get my artist like 50% of that shit even like getting 50% of your royalties as an

upcoming artist bro that shit is amazing because you're going to these major labels they give me your ass 16% you know what I'm saying type of shit you feel me you probably never see another check you feel me so with my orders you know we you know i'm doing 50-50 just like you know what i'm saying

it's like i'm putting into you you putting into me like they got they all got good deals like you feel me so so and set them up for they for their next deal i want to make sure like we always have a good a good connection and a good standing so if they blow up be bigger than me somewhere we'll still be good you feel they won't be like fuck you i'm going you know what i'm saying they probably want to get money money with me again you know what i'm saying so yeah so did you and busy at some point like officially stopped working together or was that conversation? Uh, no, no, no. Now we are like currently right now, we just, you know, I just let them know what I was trying

to do with the independent stuff, you know, he just be out with it. Because it's like, you know, we got a contract sign but at the end of the day it ain't nothing like, just because the contract sign, you know, we could do what we want to do, you know what I'm saying? So, yeah, he involved in like the next albums and stuff that I got a, uh, coming out, but it's just like a thing. Like he know I'm independent. Like he don't mind me doing this over here.

You know what I'm saying? But that agreement that we had, basically, we came up with something that where I can go sign to anybody I want to, you know what I'm saying? Or do anything I want to do. You know what I'm saying? He just still get his profit share from the

first projects that I never put out under him. Because as soon as I signed to him, we got signed to a big, to a major label, you know what I'm saying? Who knew. we're going to be that quick. Like, soon as I signed him, the label wanted to get me right then.

So if you signed with another label tomorrow, he would still be involved with that deal? Yeah, he'll be involved, like, on the, like, it's like a percentage participation type. Yeah, a percentage, like, other albums and stuff like that, you know what I'm saying? Just because, you know, he really sacrificed, like, he basically just,

our deal wasn't up, you feel me? But, you know, since we, you know what I'm saying? On that level, he's like, well, I ain't fin to hold you up. and you know what I'm saying hold up your process you feel me just you know just give me what you know what he owes you feel so how would you describe like the relationship that you guys have at this point that you talk often is it kind of like a oh we talk all my i just left in house like two weeks ago yeah like we like we like cool like we talk like all the time you feel i'm so yeah that's what's

yeah we got a good-ass-a-relation we ain't never had no foul out of nothing like that you know what's cool he used to be time he just got that niggies cop me and got down uh put the motherfuckin't It's crazy. Put the motherfucker on the phone. Give me an M-Rund number. About about a thousand times, but, you know, it all worked that in the end. Like I said, you know, he got, when we got out the deal, you know what I'm saying, he got a bag and stuff like that from them.

Shit that they ordered us and shit like that. I got a bag. He got a bag. He's still getting a bag, you know, so it's good. That's what's up. So did you, is it something with Meek Mill? You're a dream chaser now, or even? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Especially signed management deal with him, or how's this work? Yeah, yeah, yeah, me and me got a management situation going on right now. And is this, like, his Rock Nation thing? Because we heard about him how he got this big management situation through Rock Nation. You're one of the first artists signed to that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Me and Cal, he got a couple.

He got a couple other two. But I ain't ever, this is going to be my first project that I put out with them on my team. So a lot of people are like, well, I thought you was something. I'm like, bro, we haven't even put out a project yet for him to even, push or be involved in with but yeah i've been you know what i've been at this house like recording some stuff and stuff like that so damn we yeah we good we rockin how did you meet meke and how did that conversation start going and what is you two hanging out like i'm sure he's a little different than boosie yeah um damn weird to imagine comparing the two yeah uh i met me through

uh it's the late night sherry brine and uh she was uh she came to me with a like, you know, she was like, she liked my music, she believed in and stuff like that. And she was like she got, she was telling me what they were having going on at Rock Nation and Dream Traces and stuff. And they had flew me down. I had, you know, just got around meek, started feeling the vibes and stuff, you know what saying, went to a couple shows. And I was just like, you know, it probably could be a good situation for me because I was

really trying to tap into that main screen, you know what I'm saying, the type of fan base, that bigger, bigger fan base. I was like, you know, it probably, it'll probably be a good situation for me, you know what I'm saying? I was, I'm already independent. He ain't like I'm giving up too much, you know what I'm saying? So I'm like, yeah, I'm like, yeah, let's get it, you know. So do they even care if you sign a label deal?

Are they not that interested in that side of things? They're happy to be managing you regardless of that? Yeah, but you know how my management set up, like, you know, like I call, you can advise me, but I'm, I'm going to call out of shots. Like, I can do what I want, but you can advise me, though. That was kind of like, you know, they had their input and stuff on different stuff, but it's like, you know, it's whatever, you know what I say? Right.

That makes sense. I just had to ask this. You hear about Boosie's Instagram getting deleted? Yeah. That's all fucked up. That's what I just want to throw that out there, man. Yeah, no, no, no, no. I already knew that shit was going to get deleted.

Right. Like, this nigga don't listen. I mean, I'm sure that he has broken so many rules that if I actually saw, like, a document of every time that he fucking broke a rule on Instagram, I probably be like, ah, shit, all right. I thought he was playing that person. I had hit him up. I'm like, man, I'm like, your Instagram.

You're like, man, she got deleted. I'm like, man, damn, man. It doesn't seem like that much of a big deal until you think about how much money was probably changing hands through his DMs. Like how many fucking pizza shops were like, yo, here's 50 bucks. Not 50, but here post something for us.

This artist asked for a feature that he didn't get to do because the DMs aren't there anymore. That's crazy. It's so much money in your DMs, I'm talking about he's so much money on your DM. You just gotta be like sometimes, you know, this quarantine really showed people how much money in your DM, but like people really did like making like,

you're making it through through their DM because there's so many people trying to do feature, but I began like, you know what I'm saying, money just out doing video drops, like you know what I'm saying, doing audio drops, you know what I'm saying? There's people out there with bags just ready to give it to you for anything, you feel, and so. So not being on tour has made you,

focus a little bit more on the DM hustle yeah now the good thing about when it's COVID hit like when this COVID hit I was just getting out my contract so when COVID hit like I was free to sign any deal I want with and with so I was free so like other orders you know saying they probably in deals and stuff like that you know you got to get that show money you feel but I was free like soon COVID hit I was free so I was I was already shopping like independent situations and stuff like that. So I was great. I just did my first show coming back in Dayton,

like before I came here. So we back doing shows a little bit at nothing. But yeah. Was it a weird show? Was it like not the, because like I've seen videos of my friends being in the club and it's like the club might be like 60% of the people that's normally in there,

but normally like if a club only has. Hang on a lot to you, bro. If it's 60% full, it's not that lit. Like it don't look right. Man. I don't think black clubs listen to that shit, man, that bitch will pack. They ain't studying their shit. They ain't that motherfucker.

They bitch is pack. Because I keep seeing news stories about like, oh, look at these white YouTubers, these TikTokers, and they're having a party. It's so fucked up. They're having a party. And I'm like, are you guys fucking blind to what all these rappers are doing on their stories? And I think it's cool that they're leaving them alone, but I just don't really understand.

Like, look at like, Bussie's Instagram story. He is not socially distant. I'm sorry. Yeah. I just had a thing called Blueberries that I was throwing in my city that had like a lot of like all my big rapper friends on

like it was looking like he was about to go down but they just ain't nobody want to host my event no more talking about the liability it's supposed to be like like 4,000 people like I had like 42 Doug black youngster

Lucci there's a whole bunch of like rappers ARI Um what's like Ari Ari yeah okay yeah Arii so yeah I just had a whole

We were just doing the big old bads. They just canceled it. I was like, man, dang, I would have pulled that out. I would have been the goat. I'm just doing next to you, though. Right, yeah. That's what's up. So, okay, you feel like super motivated at this point,

music-wise, in your career? Because I know you've got a lot of other stuff going, too. You got a baby about to pop out or what? Yeah, yeah, yeah. In my second, this is my, no, this is my third son. I don't think I can make nothing. How many months do you got to go? We got, like, three months to go.

I got, like, two months to go. Yeah, yeah, bros. Nice. Yeah, she's about at the end. You about to have a girl? No, I'm about to have a boy. Another boy. You got boys a girl?

I got a girl on the way. Okay, yeah. First time dad soon. Yeah. So you already get to. There's so many people I know who got like five kids already and they're like 15 years younger than me. Yeah.

It really makes me feel like I've been taking my time. I definitely ain't got five, though. I definitely got three. I ain't got that minute. Not yet. The first time my girl heard young boys say 17 with four babies, which I believe it's like 18 with six babies. or something now it's way worse now.

Yeah, I mean, future's like my age. He cranked out like 11 of them. Yeah, they're crazy, man. Yeah. But you think you're going to stop at three? Because I don't believe you, for the record. I think you're going to be in a different place in your life in a couple of years.

You're going to be like, man, you know what? I need a few more. The only reason I don't think I'm going to stop because I'm in a comfortable position right now. Like when I first started getting money, like I started building my house. Like I started building my house. Like I got businesses.

Like I got restaurants and stuff like that. So I felt like if I was still like in, well I'm still in grind mode, but I was still like trying to get all this stuff, then I'd be like I ain't got time for it. But it's like now when I go home, but like shit, like I'm luxury. You feel me?

So I'm good. So yeah, yeah, I probably have. I ain't nothing else to do. But might as well got there. I just have babies and relax. Yeah. Because I mean like if you find yourself, You know, a couple of years, you got $10 million in the bank.

You might be like, man, crank out a few more of them. Yeah, like, you can afford them. Like, you can afford them. Yeah. If you can afford them, I say, I say, go on lie, I want a big family. Because I ain't going to lie. It's by the time of me to get a girl because I know these damn boys, they're not going to take care of a nigga when they get old.

When I get old, got that. That's what I keep hearing is that the girls are so nice and loving and loyal and that the boys are psychos. Just break everything. Man, man, I'm trying to live my life, daddy. They go, drop your hands up at the nurse are home and deal. What direction you feel like you're going with your music in terms of what people are really relating to

because I feel like as I was listening to it, it feels like you're kind of going more and more of Vandross with the style, again, more and more silky, smooth R&B with it. Yeah, I feel like, you know, I'm really, every song that blowed up, just major, major, has been the ones I'm talking about female. I'm like, that's just an easy business decision like, yeah, you know, I'm dropping whole mixtapes and, you know, the R&B one blowing up, you know what I'm saying, when I talk

that shit. So I started getting toward it a little bit more, but I still keep that scree shit up in now just so I could keep my fan base diversified. But right now, I'm trying to start, like, I got VanDryl music group. We just did a situation with Empire. Yeah, I just did the labor deal. That's right, you know what I got my, me, my audio. I just had another artist named Baby B, but she ain't, I don't even, you know, I don't even fuck with that no more.

It didn't work out. Yeah, man. That was before the Empire situation, though? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it was really doing it. It just happened like a couple weeks ago, like a couple weeks ago, yeah. So, yeah, so, yeah, I got that imprint under Empire. But who signed to the label?

Brooklyn Love. Oh, that's what I thought. Okay, Brooklyn. Yeah, I got Brooklyn love. Baby B still signed to me, too. You know what I'm saying? She don't think she is, but she is, got down. You feel it?

She's still signed to me, too. I can't wait to see this on her Instagram story or something. I don't know what she is, but I'm sure this is going to be on there. Yeah. But, you know, like I said, I ain't in the business of working with people that I don't feel like family. You know what I'm saying? So, like I said, if a label come by and want to sign her, which I'm sure, you know what I'm saying? They, yeah, by now because I didn't shit, I didn't turn the up by now.

But, you know, if a labor on assignment, they just pay me, we good. I release her right until y'all on, got down, you know what I'm saying? So just pay me what I'm old, you feel. But other than that, like, yeah. But other than that, I'm putting, like, putting all my, my energy into my, you know what I'm saying, my artist Brooklyn love. Like, she, you know, she got music about to draw in.

So, yeah, like, my situation with this label is, like, I got full control. I got full control over everything. I got budgets already allocated, so I'm gonna really be able to do, put all my ideas that I had when I was, you know what I said, signed to the label that I couldn't do nothing,

but say the idea, I'm gonna be able to do that with this label. So that's how, yeah, yeah, this the imprint gonna go stupid, crazy. What made you wanna start working with Brooklyn? You guys have like a J-Role on Ashanti type vibe in your songs? Yeah, like the song we just put out,

we just put out a song like a week, like, probably like nine days ago, like just went, went crazy. Like, you did like, it probably like at like 1.3 million views right now, like in a week, you feel, me? So, you know, I always wanted to write for a female artist, because I used to, like,

Like I'll be writing and shit. Like I got a lot of credits that people don't even know. Like, you know what I'm saying? I didn't, you know what I'm saying? I got, what's the recent one I just did? They did one with, Mary to Stagian, City Girls and Juicy J. That, I forgot, I forgot the song name. But I got to, like, that's what I was before.

Like, laborers used to bring me in, like, as a writer. And then I started getting into my own music and stuff like that. So, yeah, I feel like having a female artist, It's just so much shit because it would be a lot of shit I'd be right now I'm like I can't say this so with her

you know we get in the studio and collab and she could like all the thoughts she had and all the thoughts I have just you know together and then females is the way right now

bro I had to get in I had to get in on that they're taking off I mean it used to be like the total opposite situation where there was like one popular girl rapper

for like 10 years and then all of a sudden the floodgates broke open yeah the women going crazy right now shout out to all the women out of the women out there going crazy

they're going crazy right now Like, you know, I feel like with out of knowledge that I didn't garner over the time that I've been in the industry, I feel like I could really, I did it though. Like, I did. Like, me and my other artist, like, when I, she first came down, like I song did, like, it's probably almost gold right now. Slide through, like, 60 million screens, like, you know what I'm saying, ASEP, just putting on my album that one time and then just promoting that stuff. So I was like, shit, I had major situations with her, major label, or inquiries and stuff like that with her. So I feel like I could do the same thing with another artist, like, you know what I'm saying?

Within a short amount of time, because I got backing now, you feel me? Yeah. You can't help but, like, learn a shitload about how you want to play the game through being through your first scenario and everything, right? Yeah, because I was like, like, with that scenario, like, I ain't even when. I ain't even had, she the one even got me into contracts because like what it was is she was coming down. She was staying with me and stuff like that. I put it in the studio. She had never recorded before.

I put it in the studio and, you know, I never make a sign a contract. I was like, I ain't want to like just keep throwing a contract in her face. Like I was just letting it be natural. So I had got this situation with a label or a record label. and I brought it to her and she was like yeah I'm with it I'm with it I'm with it she still staying with me at this time right so yeah I'm with I'm with it so she go around me get a lawyer and try to go sign to the label without nothing to do with me you feel me so I end up seeing the email in her on my computer because

she stayed with me so her email just up on my I'm on the go I got like this at the home studio she recording it right so I'm just on the computer I'm just looking at the email, I'm like, what? You feel me? She needs to stay on her email, on her phone. I'm not on the public computer. Yeah, you feel me? So after that, you know, she had left.

I had, you know what I'm saying? I had told her leave, and then she had, I let her come back. She signed a contract. I had a contract for when she came back. So I let her come back. And, yeah. She tried to do the same thing.

She just tried to do the same thing again. I had with this next situation so I was just like man I ain't even fucking with us so I just like really like this disbanded from the because I'd be like everybody around me but if I don't feel like you family I don't even want to you know because I want to really push my orders like

genuinely push them you know what I'm saying so if I don't feel like I could do that like you just technically signed to me and I don't feel like I'd rather just you know what I'm saying I'm gonna get what I'm supposed to get just because it's being the business but like I said I ain't I ain't no pressure on nobody signing to me

you feel you know i'm a good dude so i ain't tripping yeah i respect it'd be crazy it'd be crazy like people you really got to this guy ain't wicked it's it yeah i mean you're seeing like a preview of like imagine the shit that you got to deal with the more and more artists you sign or the bigger that the money gets the bigger that the artist gives yeah it's like yeah it's like yeah so you know i feel like you know you be good to people like in the beginning i feel like most people with a good with a good uh with a good heart that's just gonna be like that's just like if when booster put me on boost it can't sign me you know what I'm saying boost ain't never give me no events you know what I'm saying but he put I feel like his his cosign was the

event you feel me like I ain't I ain't need to get no events because it's like I know the money I'm trying to make and I made I went and made the money so with that co-sign I went and made millions you know what I'm saying so it's like you know I'd never get into a situation I'm like so he put me on then Atlantic come want to sign me hey we'll give you three million I'm like all right fuck this dude yeah yeah fuck you know yeah yeah fuck you're booze and like fuck all that shit you did it's oh you know what I want to like me being a person I'm like come get this money with me you feel like we did it together but the deal unfortunately the deal that we first signed we were together like you know what I'm saying he won that they want that big but like I said you know he

reaping he reaping the benefits not because stones didn't got so big the cataloged and got so big scream so yeah you know definitely so yeah I mean it sounds like everything's going pretty good you're planning on dropping like a particular new project yeah yeah yeah I got uh blue van draws three been to drop on August 28 and uh yeah after that I got a couple more albums uh dropping draw three I got like I don't want to get away all the features but I got some big features I got a couple of artists from my city on now like I'm really just trying to make that culture from the city just go crazy right now because I feel like we slept on like even we got big artists that slept on you feel right now so uh I got the I got the record with califa that I'm thinking about

putting on the album uh car parachute so I'm probably that's why I'm down here I'm down here not a see if we could shoot that video. But yeah. That's what I'm on the way. Adam on the way Blue Van Drives through. Streets are ready. Hey, I'm glad we got a chance to talk and get the update on what you've been up to and everything.

A lot of people really wanted to know exactly where you were at in terms of your career and stuff. Yeah. Might have quieted down for like the last year a little bit, but you seem like you're back at it, hard-court. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I say, you know, I just ain't, either how we're going to feel like that

because I don't really do interviews like that. I don't really do interviews or really, really media like that. I be doing so much big shit that people don't even know about, you feel, just because it ain't really nothing about me just, really just media words. I'm just like, you know, silent underground and just, I ain't never really been, even that, you know, I've never been in it like that. But now I'm starting to pop out mode and talk mode. Now I feel like people are going to be seeing a lot more of me

because I'm popping out more or, you know, doing my. most of like I think it's good to be rare with the interviews on I say that as somebody who does interviews is that like as an artist you just don't want to be given away yeah if you do five million interviews you're giving up too much of yourself and you're sacrificing like the the mystery and the artist yeah the way people think of you in a way when you just do too much of it yeah I think you just got to be real careful with the with the interviews that you do like I'm I'm like I'm coming up on like a billion like a billion screens like I really like when people be like damn like how to hell like

Like, I really like the kind of, like, don't, not knowing of it. Like, damn, I ain't, I ain't even know he was doing it like that type of shit. You feel me? Like, that underground type shit. So I ain't really, I ain't really tripping. But, like, I'm going to start doing. Hey, yeah, you know I had to do this interview. How's it doing?

It's crazy though, bro. We're about to have kids at the same age. I can't wait to introduce him. Like, yo, now you guys got to be friends. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. You just got to hang out.

be pals now. I don't know. Oh, yeah. Do you just make an Instagram for them as soon as they're born or what? Man, I ain't a lot. I'm gonna make, I definitely gotta make all my kids got Instagram. They do? Okay. Yeah. You'd be tagging them or you just happen to save the photos? Yeah, I don't be tagging them stuff. My dog had Instagram got down one time. Dog? Yeah, he died. I was thinking about that the other day because my cat got 85K and I'm like, man, do I, like, change his profile to, to, like, be my next cat. Because I might get another cat after it. If he were to pass, because he's getting kind of old. I was thinking about that. Man, all my dogs keep catching purple, man.

I don't know. I don't know why. Yeah, they just keep catching popcorn. As soon as I bring them home, they'll be gone. Damn. Yeah, feel, and so. That sucks. Just made them my Instagram.

Yeah. Bring all the dogs home. Yeah. Shit, all right. Young Blue, I appreciate you coming on the podcast, man. All good. Thank you very much. Young Blue, No Jumper, Coolest Podcasts in the world.

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