No Jumper - Yung Dizzy and Li Rye on Free Car Music, DC Politics, Young Threat & More

Episode Date: March 26, 2025

Yung Dizzy brought Li Rye, talks about 3o$ama, DMV, Brandon Buckingham, and more! ----- Promote Your Music with No Jumper - https://nojumper.com/pages/promo CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://noj...umper.com NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4z4yCTj... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22     / adam22     / adam22   adam22bro on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No jumper. And today, okay, this is a complicated situation. So I was planning on doing an interview with Young Dizzy and Three Osama, who were two of the up-and-coming champions of D.C. right now. Apparently, Osama got locked up, which we can get into, I guess. Not necessarily. But out here, something happened? No, hell, no.
Starting point is 00:00:20 Oh, before you got on the flight. Back at home. I haven't so long. Okay. I don't want to get a tour for real. But is it? Is it a serious situation? Or is it some shit where you're going to be out in a week?
Starting point is 00:00:34 To be honest, I don't really know for her, so I can't really speak on. That's why I don't want to really speak on because I don't really know for it. Okay. Like how the situation is. Interesting. But then on top of that, we got Lil Ryan in the building. Who, I just seen you in so many different walks of life. I keep seeing you, the EBKJBO shit.
Starting point is 00:00:53 And then I go to the laser dim show you at that shit. And then all of a sudden you tapped in with the vogue. The DMV, man, you just, you're always just moving around, huh? Yeah, yeah, I was just trying, I don't know, I'm trying to build something for real, for it. It's amazing, shit. Some shit you've never seen before. Right.
Starting point is 00:01:12 No, that's good. That's good news. But, like, so how do y'all know each other? Uh, shit, for real, do life, the watch of life. Like, I just, I met his brother. You feel me? Mm-hmm. Like, he was locked up.
Starting point is 00:01:24 Yeah, well, I was locked up. I locked them with his brother. We made some shit, but we had already, like, we had already been. And you feel, me tapping in with each other on Instagram, like liking each other and shit, so we accidentally seen each other and that shit just, you feel you me? Right. And you know how to be you meet somebody to introduce you today.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Close to people you introduced. You feel, me. So he told me he was coming out here. You feel, you got to make sure you script. Let me pop out. Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah. I like it.
Starting point is 00:01:51 The show. So before we even get into it, though, what's your impression of the DMV or the D.C. scene? Like, I mean, I've been, I've been listening. to that shit is like 2018. Okay. You feel me? Like, Shaq.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Glitinzit, no savage and shit. Like, all them, that niggas been listening to them. You feel what I'm. So,
Starting point is 00:02:10 it's, it's hard for me to, to interact with the people like in my generation and then the one right under me. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:02:17 Like, right next to me. You feel him? And in our own way. Like, because they're doing shit in their own way. They come in crazy.
Starting point is 00:02:23 They're not coming high. Old artists used to go on for that shit. You know what I'm saying? I like that. We all can, I don't know. You feel,
Starting point is 00:02:32 I'm just trying to. For sure. So, all, dizzy, let's get into a little bit of your upbringing. Where are you from exactly? Let's talk about it. From Kennewerf.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Northeast, that's in Northeast part of Washington, D.C. Okay. And what was it like coming up about that? No, normal shit for the trenches. For sure. Regular?
Starting point is 00:02:52 Regular, regular? Regular, regular. Regularhood shit, for real. Crazy or boring? One or the other? You got to pick one of the other. Crazy. I say crazy.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Crazy. So every day you woke up and go to school and it's just madness going on outside? I don't necessarily say madness. I mean, it's a good neighborhood, but you know shit happening in the neighborhood. Okay. What I'm saying? I grew up. I'm saying a lot of shit.
Starting point is 00:03:12 Right. I mean, one thing I kind of get from watching interviews with y'all is that the cops are crazy out there. Fuck, yeah. I hate the police out there. Why do you think it's so nuts in terms of how on the fire? That's part because the rapping shit and the raping shit lead to, like, shit actually, you know what I'm saying? Shit getting, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:03:29 I can just be a back of forth rap beefs. So that's a big problem out there? What, rap beef? Yeah. That shit, I ain't gonna hold you. That shit like two-sided. Like, it's either you're on this side or you're on this side. So you pick a side.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Niggas don't need to be meaning to pick a side and they pick side. Really? That's just how that shit is. I feel like, you know, Chicago, New York, L.A., they all got crazy-ass rap scenes. and then the cops obviously are all over it because they see that as kind of being the root of a lot of the crime and shit.
Starting point is 00:04:03 But with D.C., I feel like the rap scene is like comparatively small, but you're saying that like the cops are just super on it. I just be dick, man. I just, I hate DC police. Really? Like me person. I just hate D.C. police.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Yeah. What, uh, you got like a memory of like your first bad encounter with him? Yeah. Uh, I was shooting a video. I think I was on live. I was shooting a video. They came, swarmed a jump.
Starting point is 00:04:34 I'm still shooting a video. Like, I got like 10 to 15,000 in my hand, like flashing in their face. Long story short, they tricked me. They snatched me up. No, they snatched me up and snatched the money up. I don't know. For what reason I didn't know at the time.
Starting point is 00:04:53 But I guess they were trying to say, I was selling some drugs and some shit. That was some bullshit. And you never had any luck with getting it back? Nah, no, that's, nah. I didn't even try to get it back because that shit. Out there, you try to get some money back from the, they're going to take you. They going to do that.
Starting point is 00:05:07 That shit going to take that. Really? Give up 10, 15K? That feels like a huge amount of money to just be like, nah, y'all can have it. Some shit you can't control, especially with the police. For sure. Wait, so, okay, what was your family situation like growing up? I always had a stable family always.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Yeah? I always like, I grew up, I get shit I want. But like I said, like, I just fell into the wrong lane. And that shit just took a, you know what I'm saying? I adapted to that shit. So you have mom and dad around? Yeah, and were they, like, aware of how dangerous your environment was? Yeah, because, you know, it's normalhood.
Starting point is 00:05:43 It's, it's two sides of a hood. Like, it's the peaceful side. But shit can turn left real quick type shit. So just shit like that. Where they were, like, warning you about, like, staying out of the streets Yeah, yeah, always, always. But, you know, kids never listen. I hear it.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Right, definitely. So what kind of kid were you in, like, high school and shit? I know you're, like, fresh out of high school, right? Nah. Nah. I ain't even finished school. Oh, you didn't finish. Well, I was watching an interview with you and, uh, or no, was you and Young Threat from,
Starting point is 00:06:15 like, a year ago. And you're like, yeah, like, we're still in high school. I'm like, oh, shit. But you were like, we're about to graduate. I might have been lying. I might have been lying, but no, I stopped going to school. I didn't know, I just stopped going to school. But what you asked me?
Starting point is 00:06:32 Like, just what kind of kid you were in high school? Yeah, I was in high school. I say about, like, ninth grade. Our ninth grade year was virtual. I did virtual. Oh, really? Okay. That shit.
Starting point is 00:06:45 I can't really speak on that, but 10th grade, shit. That really fucked you up? I don't, COVID, fuck me up, like, in general. COVID hit the whole. everything. Really? Everything. Everything was kind of...
Starting point is 00:06:59 Simple before that. Simple before that. And then all of a sudden, shit is just like... Just weird. It's not changed. No, it feels like that was this crazy inflection point for so many people. But, all right, at what point you started thinking about rapping? I ain't gonna lie.
Starting point is 00:07:15 My man, that was around me was rapping. I never really wanted to rap. Like, that wasn't me. Like, I ain't even used to want to be, like, be sane for it. I ain't... With some edish, but... No, just playing around in the studio, man, threat, free young threat. We went to the studio one day.
Starting point is 00:07:32 He was already this rapper. Like, he already getting little views and shit, but not too much. We made this song called Free Cop Music. He ain't there robbing the shit. I'm like, man, let me go. I go on that jump. Killed it. We shoot the video tour.
Starting point is 00:07:49 We draw the video. Next thing you know, like, week later, that shit going to viral on TikTok. Everybody's going to TikTok to that shit. So you really want to do that shit? Do you really weren't planning on being a rapper? And that just kind of pushed you into it. Yeah, basically, yeah. Like, to me getting a minute, that shit of the million views right now.
Starting point is 00:08:02 But that shit, like, it got a hundred K in like a week or two. So that shit, I'm like, oh, shit, I got to do something with this shit. Definitely. They want more of this shit. What, for the people out there, what is a free car? Free car music. Free car music is like a stolen car. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:16 But free car music is basically like gangster music. But, yeah, I guess you could just say, like, city-wise, like, D.C. wise, gangster music. I mean, a lot of. Different cities have a big stolen car problem, but why y'all call it free car music? I don't know. It's a free car. I don't know. I ain't invent a word.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Like, I ain't invent a word. Like, we ain't, I don't know. That shit just been in the city for a long time. So what are y'all doing with these free cars? I guess niggas. Niggas is getting in the cars. And niggas riding around and I don't know. Just riding around?
Starting point is 00:08:47 Not doing any dirty business in these cars? I don't know nothing about. I don't know nothing about that. You know, I listen to a lot of little Dirk. I hear about a lot of things that people are doing with these cars. No, I don't know. No, you don't know. Not about that.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Good, good. That's a good answer. But when you first start hearing the term free car, because I noticed a fat trail got a song called Free Car. This is, like, pretty popular slang out there. I don't know. I guess the slang, like, took a toll on everybody. Like, everybody's style using that shit.
Starting point is 00:09:14 That's on y'all. We're going to, like, oh, y'all. Yeah. I'm on the D.C. say that shit. Yeah. I never heard, like, never heard no other city state say that. No, for sure. And I'm watching interviews with y'all,
Starting point is 00:09:26 and you're, like, talking about free car music, and it doesn't even feel like you're, like, joking around. That's just, like, actually what you guys call it? You don't call it drill music, go out free car music. Just because, what, it's, like, high-pitched, like, or fast-paced music that kind of could be the soundtrack for you running around doing crazy shit? I don't really know, for real.
Starting point is 00:09:43 I can't really explain the shit, for real. It probably could, like, it's their own shit. Yeah, it's our own shit, so we're going to go off our own shit. We're going to call it free-cide music. Like, niggas call it. It's Chicago. drill music, we're gonna call this shit free cop music.
Starting point is 00:09:57 It's basically the same shit for it. It was just we doing our own shit like we got our own beats and shit. Like we got different types of beats and shit. So being from D.C., though, does it feel like the rest of the country doesn't necessarily understand your culture and what's going on out there?
Starting point is 00:10:13 You just hear people talk about D.C. They just don't really get it that much. Yeah, they think of the White House. I think I was talking to smile. Matter of fact, I was talking to... I think about the White House. When I think about D. I'm talking about the capital of the...
Starting point is 00:10:25 I mean, yeah, for sure. That's the most important thing that's happening in that area, but also it's like... That shit deep in that. That shit is way deepening that. My whole life, people have been telling me about how D.C. is one of the grimyest places
Starting point is 00:10:36 and the most dangerous places in the hoods and shit. You got to come see for yourself. I do got to go there. I actually kind of have tentative plans to go out there. Oh, what's you doing all day? You know, some local celebrities I might have to tap in with. You know? Wait, have you ever been to the White House?
Starting point is 00:10:52 You've got to go there at field trips. a kid and shit. Not necessarily the White House, but I've been around the White House. Yeah. I ain't never been in there. Right. You know,
Starting point is 00:11:00 not like in there, but like that. But around the area. What is that? Pennsylvania Avenue, the street that's like right outside of it. I think it is. It's some shit like that.
Starting point is 00:11:06 But yeah, I've been around that shit. And the monument, all that shit. So, real trips, get field trips to if I was a kid. Do you feel like you feel the impact
Starting point is 00:11:13 of all that shit being in your city? Like, does that matter at all or not at all? Because like, obviously most people we know who rap and are in the streets don't exactly. pay attention to what's going on with politics.
Starting point is 00:11:25 I don't really give a fuck. I don't really give a fuck about this shit. If you rap really good and you get really popular, then maybe Trump will pardon you for future crimes if they do happen to happen. I mean, he's done it. He's got a few rappers out. Like, Boosey seems like he really feels like
Starting point is 00:11:42 the Donald Trump is going to help him get out of his Fed case. And he might. Busy got a fed case going on. Yeah, Busy got caught, like, like, felon in possession of a firearm. I thought he did this. beat it on a state level and then the feds picked it up right away which is actually insane that they could do that
Starting point is 00:11:57 I mean if Trump's gonna fuck with Kodak and A sap Rocky and all this shit then you know, Boussey could probably get in there maybe Young Dizzy too I don't want to see nobody fuck that fuck no nigga, I don't see nobody in jail better than not Bucci we need Buz that's an American treasure yeah one of the greatest Americans that we got
Starting point is 00:12:18 fucking boosie like you I'm in Alabama so he that shit Oh, yeah. People always want to tell me down south that, like, you don't get it. You're from the East Coast. You're from, you live in California for all these years. You don't understand Boosie's impact. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:33 I believe him. Like, he did for us. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We look at him different. Grew up in a motherfuckers. Like, if he and a club, somebody says something to him around, and people are going to beat the fuck. I definitely grew up around my fucking.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Yeah. No, definitely. What other music you listened to growing up And at what point do you start listening to music from D.C.? I think my whole... I've been listening to music from D.C. Like, since I was going on. But I listen to all kind of music.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Like, shit you probably wouldn't even expect me to listen to it. Taylor Swift? No, I'm fucking. No, not that. Okay. Shit, like, say, like, females or shit. Like, I, with some females songs, like, female sings, like, Summer Walking and shit.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Oh, yeah. It's just vibey, like, I can catch a vibe of that shit. I don't know. I started listening to her because I want to know where Rico Reckles is working with. Huh? What? That's his girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Summer Walker Summer Walker. You didn't catch that? No, that's real. I know it probably seems like I'm lying, but I'm not lying. That's a real thing. I forgot about Rigo Nasty, man. Rico Reco Reckless. Oh, Rico Rackles.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Oh. Nasty. Damn, that's another. She's from, is she from D.C. or is she from... I think she's from... Yeah, she's from Maryland. She did her thing for the city. No, yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Rigo reckless. He was Chicago. Yeah, he's from Chicago, yeah. Legend. Psycho. Madman. And apparently good at scoring pop stars
Starting point is 00:13:58 because, you know, Summer Walker, they're committed. That's a big score. That's a big score. No, for real. That's a big ass fool. Pretty good. Fuck.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Kid from the streets. I mean, shit. I hope you don't fuck it up. There's a million ways to fuck it up. Shit. It's something to be proud of in general, too. But, like, all right, so that, that, when you went to the,
Starting point is 00:14:22 studio with Young Threat, that was just you fucking around, but then how does your life change after you drop that song? You start deciding like, man, I got to go hard with this shit. If I could do it once, I could do it again. Yeah, yeah, that was my mindset. And I started getting more traction. People wanted me to rap.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Like, I started getting fans off that shit. Getting fans, I don't even, that's the only, I only got like two songs out. I got fans running up. They're saying the vibe. You know what I'm saying? Doing the shit. doing a little vibe with dance to the shit.
Starting point is 00:14:53 That shit just a huge impact on me. And that dance just happened? It wasn't like something that you planned. I didn't plan that shit at all, at all. That's crazy. This at the time, like, I didn't even know how to really work TikTok. I'd usually be on TikTok. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:08 See this shit all the time. People used to send me the shit. I just be like, damn. But I ain't really think too much of it for real. Like, I ain't. It feels like that's how it works. We post clips on, though. TikTok slipped on for a while.
Starting point is 00:15:20 We post clips. of our interviews and shit on TikTok, but then the clips that always go super viral, always around the fucking people uploading the shit. TikTok, I think rap is on to, like, see that TikTok has a huge impact. Like the rap scene. Yeah. A lot of artists, they get signed and the label just tells them, like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Get on TikTok, yeah. Make a bunch of TikToks until the song pops up. Nah, for sure. So, okay, do you, like, Some of these questions are kind of like mixed in with the three Osama questions as well. But 37, that's his blog. That's not your shit. No, that's his block.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Okay. Because those are like pretty famous projects out there because that's also I'm pretty sure where I've seen the vlog of Brandon Buckingham. Drinking more alcohol than I've ever seen anybody drink. Like he's with another dude and the dude is like, let's take 10 shots back to back. And Brandon's like, okay. They did it though. I know. And I just like legitimately don't, I don't get that.
Starting point is 00:16:19 Brandon was struggling. Bro, if I take two shots, I'm going to be visibly wasted. Ten is nuts. Ten is insane. Ten is wild. I can't. Five is insane. Five.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Three is insane. I can't drink. Why you can't drink? I mean, I don't drink, none. But, hell, that shit, though. I don't see how you just drinks shit that nasty. That drink is cool. I'd rather drink some good shit.
Starting point is 00:16:43 You feel it? Mix that shit with the soda. That shit's good for a fuck. Yeah, like some lemon drop shit? Oh, you're talking about. Oh, yeah. You feel me? Like, that shit tastes good.
Starting point is 00:16:50 I get you drank some shit that nasty. You feel, I'd rather feel good the whole time. You know what ruined drinking for me? It was just when I started doing coke with it. If you get drunk and then you do coke and it's... Stay out your nose. Bring you back to life. That's when you can really drink.
Starting point is 00:17:05 Yeah, but no, that's a good... That's insane. That's insane. You got to stay away from the coke. You're like 18. You can't do that. I don't know. It doesn't matter if you're 42.
Starting point is 00:17:13 That's when you're grown up. That ain't for shit. Stay away from the coke. Stay away from that shit. Nah, facts. Wait till 30 and start doing coke. Hell, man. I didn't wait until I was 30, but I was definitely, like,
Starting point is 00:17:26 mid to late 20s. Really is, like, when all the bitches start doing it. 41. Oh, man. What? Viches always doing. Business love. They love co.
Starting point is 00:17:35 You don't expect doing shit like that. Yeah. If you got Coke, like, celebrity. If you're the Coke, man, you got a host. You got nothing to worry about. That's insane. That's insane. That's crazy, though.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Out here? Yeah, I know out here, for sure. Yeah. Well, the girls ain't doing coke in decent. see? I don't know what the few men. What are they doing? They like drinking.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Yeah. Been drunk. On 37th? It seems like a good place to get drunk. Seems like a lot of other people are getting drunk there. Okay. So, yeah. All right, we did the Kenilworth thing.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Kenilworth of 37. What's like the better area to live in? I don't want to compare that. Like, that's not. Both are in the hood. So I don't know. Right. Same shit, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:22 the hood, normal hood, so I wouldn't know how to answer that. Right. But so out there, though, is it like crazy drama and politics
Starting point is 00:18:30 in regards to where you're from? Is it like just all these different neighborhoods? It ain't no gangs out there. That shit just goes off based off where you're from. It's all neighborhood. Yeah, all neighborhood. It's just like neighborhood and shit.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Yeah. So I don't know that. I don't know. I don't know. I answer that question. Why do you think D.C. hasn't necessarily, like,
Starting point is 00:18:47 risen to the level of somewhere like Chicago or L.A. or New York in terms of people paying attention to the street rap. There are artists, obviously, who emerge from that, but it feels like the overall scene just hasn't necessarily like... I think it's because... Like you said, when niggas think of D.C.,
Starting point is 00:19:04 they think of the White House and shit. So, niggas probably wouldn't expect... Oh, nah, these niggas from D.C., them niggas. But some people, like, niggas that's in the feds and shit, like, niggas know how D. You know what I'm saying? Like, some motherfuckers know how D.C. really is.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Some motherfuckers don't. So I don't... I don't really know why motherfuckers ain't really noticing, but that shit going up, though. How do you feel when people, such as on this podcast, smear D.C. and, like, I don't even want to say this to you, but there has been people on this podcast who basically inferred that in the feds, D.C. dudes are zestier than other states. You ever heard this before? Hell, no. I don't need to. I don't want to get in that.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Fat Troll really wasn't feeling that when I brought that up. I don't know. I ain't ever been in the Feds. I don't know. He's been in the Feds, so he probably some type of weight because you said that then. Yeah. And he from D.C. I'm not saying I agree with it. I'm just saying that's like, I would feel fake if I didn't bring that up because we've discussed that on here. I don't give a fuck about that shit. Like me personally, I don't give no. Right. That ain't got none to do with me. Right.
Starting point is 00:20:03 Like that ain't. You're not playing on going to the feds. Fuck, no. Never not. Nobody is. Nobody can't go in. I hope not. No, that's all bad. Yeah. We've got bigger things to do with our lives. Yeah. Well, there's so much money, man. Definitely. Too much money I would be going out of the fair. What do you feel like is the hottest music in D.C.
Starting point is 00:20:26 though? Like, what's the real soundtrack to the streets? C.N. D.C. is a type of rapist. Freakaw was taken over for a little. Like, Free cop music was taken over. Which, you know, Nino doing this thing. I don't know what you call his music. He's a different.
Starting point is 00:20:43 He's on some different shit. He's rapping about, like, pain, like, sadness. He wrote by airtime. He robbed out everything, basically. Nino paid. He was in the other day. He didn't do the interview yet, but Rimo told me he's in Austin right now, and he said that the kids are going crazy for him out there.
Starting point is 00:20:58 I don't care. He's a great. He's hard to fuck. Yeah. We got a song. He might not ask. I put him on my house. Huh?
Starting point is 00:21:07 He might ask. He brought a shit. I don't know. What time did it? Let me see. He's in the Austin, Texas, vortex. He probably drowning in pussy right now. Man, I went to Austin.
Starting point is 00:21:17 That ain't nothing out there. That shit was so weird. In terms of girls? That shit was so weak. I don't know what it's like these days. We used to go out there and just feel like it was the Holy Land. There was so many drunk chicks. You used to talk about before COVID and shit.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. COVID faked up a lot of shit. Everything. I heard Cala was way more lit than what a little in there and that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Covey f***ed up a lot of shit. Even just Melrose. I think about Melrose in 2017, 2018.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Shit was out of control. I was still stuck in my bill. I can make it here. I didn't get here until like 20-22, 22-11, some shit. Yeah, yeah. He on a plane. All right. But you feel like he's going to be a big factor coming out of there?
Starting point is 00:21:56 Yeah. He's already a big factor. He's definitely doing this thing, yeah. Definitely. All right. So how do you feel about the sort of these guys are in Starbursts, just so everybody knows? In terms of like the real big influences and artists who in the current generation
Starting point is 00:22:13 have been able to make it out of D.C., though, like two biggest names that kind of come to mind, a shot glissie and Fat Trell. yeah who were those like big influences on you when you're younger and shit and I wasn't necessarily said big influence on me but like they were some popular names like in the rap game do you feel like uh did they have like a big impact on the current generation or does it feel like they came out did their thing and it didn't necessarily like create a shitload of attention because you know somebody like chief keef comes out of Chicago and it creates you know
Starting point is 00:22:47 they created 20 years of interest in Chicago. I don't really know her, real. But they got... They put DC on their back at one point in time, so... Mm. I don't know. You're a fan of you're a fan of... What do you mean, a fan?
Starting point is 00:23:03 Like, you watch his videos and shit? Yeah, I'd be saying that shit. Yeah. Wait, there's nothing wrong with being a fan. I'm a fan of what, though? His content. He fucking yells into the camera and makes content. I'd be saying the shit.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Yeah. I should do be funny. It's definitely controversial, though. him up to Fat Trail. Again, wasn't feeling it. I don't know none about that shit. For sure. Okay, so how influenced do y'all feel by, like, the music coming out of Chicago
Starting point is 00:23:31 and, like, other drill scenes? Was that, like, a big part of how you arrived at the sound that you got now? That's a good question. I wouldn't... Y'all shit so different in there, about it is. Not necessarily. I don't actually think so. Like, me... I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:49 I don't think so I think I was shit different For sure What's like some Some slang that kind of stands out That's like exclusive to D.C. What are you guys doing? You're trying to pick out what colors you want and shit?
Starting point is 00:24:05 Got to Nah, slang in D.C.? Yeah Moe, kill Mo is still big Yeah Okay Because when young Glees was coming out
Starting point is 00:24:17 When he was saying Mo at the end of every sentence and we were so goddamn confused for a while. And then he said Mo Kill at the end of like every sentence for a while. No, it's Mo Kill, Slim. What else is it? Jai. What's Jai? You Jai like throwing me off.
Starting point is 00:24:36 You jive like doing too much. I don't know. You jive anything. Right. Slim, I say this, Slim. Yeah, I say drawn. Oh. Who?
Starting point is 00:24:48 Dron. Drone. That's Philly. Philly. Philly say drawn. I'm all over the matter. Drawn and John. Philly got weird words that we don't do.
Starting point is 00:24:57 They say drawn. We say jont, like jump. Like, J-A-U-N-T? J-O-I-N-T. Oh, joint. Yeah. We say joint in L.A. Like, if you're like the young high kid coming out in the game, you're a joint.
Starting point is 00:25:11 If you're a joint. See, we use joint for anything. And you're like, say if it's like, damn, say for female wives, you see a hot female. Exactly. Good looking female. And that joan look, that joan look good as shit. Like, shit like that. Or you could be talking about something.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Damn, what's that? You could be like, damn, what's that joan name? Yeah. Like, you just be talking about anything. Like, you just use joan. I don't know. Because I've had, I forget who it was. I had somebody on here who got really weirded out by me because I said, like, do you feel like a joint in your city?
Starting point is 00:25:45 thought I was saying, do you feel like a bitch in your city? Where I mean, bitch, yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Like, he just said, like, he'll call a girl a joint or whatever. No, no. But I was saying a joint, like, the man. And he took it as, like, a girl. And it was a weird moment of confusion.
Starting point is 00:26:00 I can't remember which one of it was. He said a joint could be a water bottle, like, pay me that joint. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a bit. Yeah, yeah. And then the joint is jail to. The joint traditionally was out of jail. Yeah. The joint.
Starting point is 00:26:13 But it didn't mean anything, though. For what I hear. No, definitely. Okay, so, you know, another one that you guys all use, men. Men. Obviously men. They don't know about it said it either. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Me and my men. Like, men. What's so? Damn. I'm trying to. You'd be like, all my men went to that school, but I was over here. All my men went to that school, but my men over there. You and I, like, don't you and me?
Starting point is 00:26:40 We say that too, you and me? When I'm watching interviews with you guys, I'm just like, oh, so they just say it. that like that. Like, they're not, okay, got it. Or you walk up, dabbing them, dabbing the men up. See? See, I just use men. You dabbing, dabbing the homies. That's smooth. What's up with the men? Like, what's up with the men? That's definitely unique. I ain't heard that in any other state. That's some unique shit. So, okay, we got men. That's important.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Um, okay. So, um, shit. Um, I guess I also wanted to ask, uh, oh, yeah, okay, you in particular, you got a song called Cruddy Kay. What is it to be cruddy? Who's the cruddy? Who's cruddy? You don't f*** with the cruddies? Cruddy's cool, man. Is cruddy the actual name of the people you're beeping with?
Starting point is 00:27:31 There's cruddy like a version of it. You changed it to. Oh, come on. I listen to the song. There's a lot of people getting shit on in this song. They probably going to be hit me up after this. You need a cruddy interview. I wish I had the lyrics right here.
Starting point is 00:27:50 I was sitting and read out the lyrics like Cruddy K and we're gonna have a whole lot. It'll be the most federal interview ever. No, we can't go to jail. We're not going to take it to that level. All right. But in terms of like dissing and shit in music, what's your attitude on that?
Starting point is 00:28:08 What are you like attitude? I hear you doing it, but I also hear a lot of your music that doesn't really focus on that. So it's just like a once-on-wild thing. It's whatever the fans want, basically. You know what I'm saying? You don't want to leave it up to that. The fans?
Starting point is 00:28:24 You know, and the- The fans would rather you be a serial killer. Let's be real. I mean, you don't know that, though. Oh, I know. Because you see the shit that they pay attention to. They love killers. And they pay attention to all the type of shit, though.
Starting point is 00:28:36 So you can't just say killing. Yeah, but sometimes I see how it is for artists who don't want to do that shit. I give what you coming from, though. Right. If you're good enough, though? Yeah. If you're juice world, you don't got to talk about that shit. But if you make a song about killing people, then realistically, like, that's probably
Starting point is 00:28:54 going to be your most popular song. You know, you see it all the time. Not to say that I support it. I'm wholeheartedly against that. I don't understand that shit. I mean, it's generation. But I can't deny it's also, like, fascinating. Like, you know, when there's a real epic rap beef going on, that's like...
Starting point is 00:29:10 Some shit to pay attention to. You know, it makes it makes sense for you as someone. who doesn't necessarily like understand that much about what's going on, you know? Oh, yeah. It put it in an easier perspective for y'all to understand. Yeah. So that's basically what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Yeah. Well, I mean, how many people would really understand, like I feel like we understand Chicago because of the crazy-ass beefs and shit. Yeah, they're rapping about the shit. That's what you're saying? Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:35 And I also, but still sometimes that feels like it holds cities back because I feel like a lot of people don't want to listen to L.A. music because the gang politics out of here, are hella complicated and all over the place. But like the version, like, people look at Chicago and they're like, oh, it's BDs versus GDs. It's so much more complicated than that.
Starting point is 00:29:52 But like in L.A., I don't know. Like, there was a time where people were so fascinated at Bloods and Crips. That was like the biggest shit. It's still like that. Yeah. It's gang culture. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:30:04 Like, if you make a group, if you make a, it's not a gang, you know what I'm saying? If I'm saying, the gangs are meant to be gang. They're just groups. So we look at them because they, they got shableness. construction. There's a lot of places where we're just doing shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's certain shit you can't do. You feel it or somebody going to come talk to you. You get
Starting point is 00:30:21 disciplined about this. It ain't no discipline no way else. That's why motherfuckoldy gravitate to what they got going out here. Yeah, that's the biggest difference, I think, is that in L.A., there's old heads who have say-so. And they can actually call some shots. And in Chicago, it's just pure Hawaiian activities. If you tell, like, if you say something too loud to the wrong person, and then I don't get to fuck how old you? No, I didn't know what I was right with Chicago. But with Chicago, there are older dudes and stuff. It's just like...
Starting point is 00:30:46 I'm older dudes that got say-so, but like, I don't think... I don't think they don't really... One just one particular nigga got say-so over the whole Chicago. No, because some of y'all niggas ain't trying to hear that shit. The most positive thing I see in L.A. I think that's like that anyway, though. Yeah. It is like, that what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:30:59 I ain't know. Even here. Even here. Nick, I'm not just going to tell you what to do and you're just going to follow that. No. But the real OGs, they can make a difference. Not like, not like, not like, niggas just like... Some people who do just blindly follow a black.
Starting point is 00:31:14 I ain't gonna lie, it's structure. It's structure. Like, something they ain't going for. Yeah, some niggas is. Like, some niggas is. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You got to stay within the lines of my shit.
Starting point is 00:31:23 You know what I'm saying? They got rules to follow that. Yeah, okay. So I get what you're saying. You feel, me? They will. I hell of him. Do you ever listen to anything from L.A.?
Starting point is 00:31:31 Or is that kind of foreign to you? I ain't fucking. Listen. I was recently just listened to the, the, uh, the Nek, E.BKJbo shit. Yeah. That's our number one export. Export besides Kendrick.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Yeah, Kendrick. Free bro. What the fuck else? Yeah, Kendrick. My, I don't think he count now. Kendrick? See, that's part of the problem. As soon as you get really, really big, they say you don't count.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Nobody wants to count Tyler the Creator, too. He from here? Yeah. I didn't know that. But he'd be wearing sweater vests and shit, so they don't want to count them as an L.A. rapper. You know, he'd be singing. You got a crazy-ass pitch, auto-tune shit on his voice.
Starting point is 00:32:11 I don't know. But, nah. But he's selling like 400K first week. We got to claim him. New York claims Cardi B and Nikki Minaz and all these massive superstars that came out of there. I mean, they're so big, though.
Starting point is 00:32:27 I mean, they're big, though. You feel, me? Like, they're out of this. Like, they're really industry-bound. But that's the thing. Like, somebody gets really big. You still got to claim them because all these different cities
Starting point is 00:32:37 are trying to figure out who's the hottest. They're still going to be a legend from the city. But, like, it's different when you got there at the Grimmons. It's different to claim old hit. Because it's like... Yeah, but they put their time in, they put their work in.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Because... Once you fought it, you should get your flowers. When people talk about L.A., though, they'll be like, oh, what about Snoop Dog? And it's like, all right, Snoop Dog, one of the biggest legend, period, in rap music, but also, like, have you really thought of him as being,
Starting point is 00:33:00 like, a rapper first in the past 20 years? Not really. I bet I shit, 20 years ago, I was through. Yeah. No, Snoop Dogg was the number one rapper to me when I was, like, eight. Eight? I swear to God.
Starting point is 00:33:12 He was the first rabbi that I fuck with him. I give what you're saying, though. It's like time of shame. Yeah. And he got all the Corona commercials and all that kind of shit. Yeah, he got all in. It was fire. It was amazing. But shit, he, he, he, been in this shit, what?
Starting point is 00:33:26 And he made a name for stuff. My whole life. He was sad. That's the shit you get. Movies all type of shit. No, for sure. I'm trying to get to the level I got down. I'm on a commercial.
Starting point is 00:33:35 I'm going to be on a commercial. When we talk about Chicago, we don't talk about Kanye. No. You know? Because it's Kanye. Yeah. He's too big. Once you get stupid big, that's shit different.
Starting point is 00:33:45 Kind of you out of this world. Definitely. Who would you rather do a song with Shagg Lizzie or Fat Trey? What does it have to be rather? I mean, which one would be your choice if you can only pick one? I was trying to figure out who's hotter. That doesn't mean who hotter. I could just fuck with somebody.
Starting point is 00:34:09 I could just listen. You know what I'm saying? But do you feel like any kind of real relationship to either of them or not really. What'd you say? Like, do you feel any kind of closeness or whatever? Me? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:19 Like, if I do something with them, like, a relationship-wise? Or are you asking, do I have any type of relationship? Like, do I have any type of relationship? No, no, no. No, neither one of them. Okay. For sure. But song-wise, I don't know who I would pick.
Starting point is 00:34:31 That's a good question, though. That's something I can really think on it. Like, who would I pick? I don't know, though. I really wouldn't. I don't know. I thought Fattrell drops way more than Shack Closy, but I might just be not paying attention to what Shack Lazy.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Nah, you might be right, though. Glizzy don't really be dropping like that. Yeah. He just dropped some with Savage. I think that's the latest thing he dropped. I don't know. That's what I was a. No Savage, that's one of the biggest names coming out of that, too, huh?
Starting point is 00:34:55 Yeah. You fuck with him? Like, you got a relationship at all? I know him, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. He definitely made a big impact on the whole culture when that video from the mall came out.
Starting point is 00:35:05 We all got to see him being a maniac. But he went and did his, he sat down. learned his lesson he's back at it people in DC listen to him like crazy though yeah yeah fuck yeah he's
Starting point is 00:35:22 if not he like what the fuck he's probably the biggest artist in the DMV him who else Nino because he tried like doing his own thing out of the damn V
Starting point is 00:35:34 that's who I can say like still listen to to this day like you know what I'm saying so there's a difference between having like like legend status and like actually having the city on lock music wise. Yeah, that's a big difference. Fat difference.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Fat difference. See, I don't think people in L.A. would describe a difference as being fat. So that might be able to do. I'm just saying like it's a big. I'm just trying to figure out all the slang. It's a big difference though for sure. Right, no, for sure. So you could be a legend in your city.
Starting point is 00:36:07 That don't mean you're like, you still be thinking like your time passed. Like you had your time. Like you said, it's young. Like you said, it's young niggas time. Usually by the time you get called a legend, people aren't really listening to music like that. You're not even dropping music for real.
Starting point is 00:36:18 You shouldn't even still be dropping. Well, you can. You can do that one. But I wouldn't. If you got the legends, you should be very successful somewhere. To the point you don't have to drop no music. So what stands out between you two when you hang out,
Starting point is 00:36:31 like cultural differences and shit? It's accent. The accent. But he got, like, I say I got accent too. He got an accent. I hear, don't know about it got no accent.
Starting point is 00:36:41 When I listen to you two, I'm like barely any accent, extreme accent. You said barely? Yeah, but I'm from the East Coast too, so like his voice sounds normal to me. Besides like a couple little things that he might say. But for the most part, but when I hear you, I'm like, oh. He's from downtown. Down south.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Sure. Yeah, for sure. Sure. I'm more beer, like, we country here. Yeah. Like, you're right there. Nah, for sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:07 I don't know. We were just in studio. We were in studio last night. he was more hype to me. I ain't, I never been in the studio, nobody, like, more up to me. Just the energy? The energy, like,
Starting point is 00:37:19 he can't show my energy. I got tired. He walked my head right back up. It's just natural energy, or? Just natural energy. What time was it? What, like, five? Five in the morning.
Starting point is 00:37:31 What time you got here? I got here late. He got here late. He, we probably, we was in the studio. I was in the studio, like, three hours. We was in the studio just talking to. So he was in that, he probably didn't up with me, like, he was in there, like, $5 and shit. So I'm not about $5 a lot.
Starting point is 00:37:46 We were just in there talking there before we even did a song. Yeah, we were talking to shit. All right everything. Everybody went to sleep while we was talking. They be hopping in the booth. Do you guys be drenching people? No, hell, I don't want to, you feel, I be tripping. Don't wait a minute about my sleep.
Starting point is 00:38:01 Because I barely, I can't sleep. I feel like that's disrespect. I won't want one of the nigga do it to me. You feel? I ain't just, shit. So I'm not just going to get up and. I'm too old. Like, that was like, six years ago.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Yeah, niggas, niggas, niggas still, I'm not, don't, you still play them game. I ain't playing. I don't play it. You know, you're not, for real. Sometimes you, you're saying? Sometimes I ain't playing. You know when I'm playing, though, but I ain't playing.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Yeah, not a- My sleep, though, I need it. Because I never get it. Oh, yeah. Yeah, and in the sun, yeah, so. I haven't been to sleep yet. I sleep bed two days. And really, okay, if you're doing a song with somebody,
Starting point is 00:38:36 and it's like, they're still recording. They record a verse. It's going to take a lot. like an hour realistically. That's the perfect time for you to take a little nap. Yeah. You know, because you don't got nothing to do for that hour that they're recorded.
Starting point is 00:38:49 If you're in the studio with me, he ain't get no time. I record shit six minutes. That fast? I record, I get like some songs a night. Wow. It got to,
Starting point is 00:38:58 though, like it's just like, I don't know. I want to have a million songs. That's crazy. What you said? I got a cadet. It's threat.
Starting point is 00:39:05 Oh. Oh, threat. We got a young threat call from the feds. Yeah. What's all with it, babe? Local jail. You hold it right up to the mic. Hold on, brother.
Starting point is 00:39:17 A little right right here. I'm at No Jumper. Yeah, we're on No Jumper right now. I say, what's up with it, babe? Biggie E. How you living, G? Adam, Adam, say how you living? How are you posting?
Starting point is 00:39:36 What kind of situation are you in right now? You in, like, the local jail? Or you're not in prison, right? No, he ain't in a jail. No way. Oh, I thought he was locked up. They're doing. Yeah, he's in the city jail right now.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Oh, okay. Shit, how long have you been locked up for? Probably a couple months, like six, seven months. Man, we need his ass to pull up here when he gets up. Yeah, yeah. I'm definitely comfortable. No, for sure, man. That's, yeah, I've been listening to a lot of your music while I've been listening to Three O's summer and Dizzy here and everything.
Starting point is 00:40:12 So, you know, I was watching some interviews that you get wrong with him and shit. You got to pull up. Yeah, I'm definitely coming through that. Let's go. I don't say we the next thing. I think we up right now. Right now. Ain't no motherfuck up.
Starting point is 00:40:29 D.C. next up? What you doing? You got? What's you on? You know, I'm pressing my butt. I just got up, huh? Oh, yeah. I still on lockdown.
Starting point is 00:40:41 No, no, no. You know, they do. They did some little other shit this roaring. I was, man. I dropped the tablet out of the slap. I'm thinking they trying to lock. I get the bunkin on it. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:40:57 Yeah, what's it like being a local celebrity out there in the jail? Man, it'd be funny. You'd be like, if it'd be a rag of niggas you don't know, then you might think, man, oh, fuck, this nigga, why he just keeps looking at it a man?
Starting point is 00:41:13 It'd be like... The old time, he fanned out. Nah, for real, old time he fanned out. I'd have been walking through this junk doing them working out or something. I come back a nigga, say. like, man, that's a young threat. And look at him, like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:41:28 Jail ain't their environment to be fanned out in there. Nah, for real. Yeah, is that shit stressful, or are you actually, like, laid back and relaxed? No, it's just a lead back and relaxed type of situation. You know, like, I'm one of the ones, so I just laid back. My feet kicked up. I ain't got too much to worry, though. No, that's what's up, man.
Starting point is 00:41:51 It's good to get an update from you, though, for sure. The city wants to see you back. out here. He's going to be right out in Calais. I'm going to be out there real soon. For sure, man. We got a young threat out here in L.A. too. I got to tap you guys in.
Starting point is 00:42:09 For real? Yeah, man. I was looking at too that, man. I was early time I dropped. Tomorrow and be like, I don't think that's you threat. So I'm getting looking. It's how you spell his name.
Starting point is 00:42:20 I feel my name. I was looking at it. John was listening to some of his music. Now, yeah, he's hard. He's cool, too. Who? I was with my man, K-40. G-40 from
Starting point is 00:42:36 out of Florida. Oh, yeah, G-40 and my dog. Yeah, my man, long-lived dude, man, that's my heart right bit.
Starting point is 00:42:44 Long-lead do, that's a fact. A heart right bit, man. I get back out there, we gonna cut up. I was just hauling that rap,
Starting point is 00:42:54 right know what it is, man, right know how we call it, like. I know what it is, brother. I was just on the phone letting him hear on release and shit.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Oh, for real? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You've been hanging out around them since he was free? No, he just got out here, but, you know, we've been talking since he was, since he was locked up. For sure.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Yeah, you know, every time, you know, it ain't really got to be a, that I meet you in person. You know, real niggas are going to meet you, see what I'm saying? It's just a gang-saint-up every time I link up. I don't really be trying hard at them rap niggins, like. No, thanks. I mean, shit. All right, hold your head in there, man. Yeah, you do that.
Starting point is 00:43:41 All right, love for life. Much love, Jay. Damn, that was a good update right there. Yeah. Daddy called. I was doing this shit. For sure. I mean, do you feel like there's a good amount of unity
Starting point is 00:44:02 between all the artists that are coming out of D.C. right now that are actually having motion because it feels like Osama, you, and Threat are all super locked in. Fuck, yeah. Yeah. There's probably some other guys you don't like. They're doing their thing as well, But, man, I salute whoever.
Starting point is 00:44:19 If I don't know about him, then it is what it is. So you had a relationship with Duel, too? Because he was just shudson. Not necessarily, but, you know, niggas was speaking to him like, threw him. Yeah. So I want that certain relationship with a nigga. Yeah, word. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Rest and peace. Duel was just, like, so good at just reaching out and forming relationships with, like, everybody who was coming up that was, like, real serious about their shit. Yeah. To put it one way. Good negative. Yeah, no. Real good nigga.
Starting point is 00:44:50 That's a crazy story, man. When I interviewed Skrilla, the end of the interview, he was just like, you know who WabBC Duel is? I was like, nah, he's like, you got a lock in with him. So if it wasn't for that, I never would have got the interview one. I got a chance to meet him. All right, so, yeah. You didn't get a chance to kick it around Jaybo before he got locked up?
Starting point is 00:45:13 He was only out for like 28 days. I'm saying that shit. He was moving around though. He was supposed to come out here. I had got on the phone and he was supposed to come out of him. You see what happened. No, man. He'll be all.
Starting point is 00:45:29 He's going to get out. It's just crazy because, like, I always was, like, thinking, like, with the Chicago audience or, like, whatever, would they with J-bo? And then all of a sudden, he's doing songs with Vaughn. I feel like I've been here. Even when I was out in Chicago, they were asking me about J-Brow and Like, random people ask me about him. He different.
Starting point is 00:45:49 He hard. Like, you listen to this shit? It ain't a lot of people coming like Jaybo. You know what I'm saying? That shit is hot. I don't even be listening to the nays out of it, but I heard that shit. That shit, you feel? Like, they listen to that shit where I'm from now.
Starting point is 00:46:01 You feel him like, we don't, we don't go too far from where we're from the other to listen to the shit. And they get hard to fuck. Yo, he just got to change his lifestyle up. You can't just be out in the streets doing all the wild shit that he feels like. doing them. You got a mood different. You got a mood different and think.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Everybody made mistakes. That's it. Everybody made mistakes. Sometimes shit don't even be your fault. Because I know, like, I, I, I'm, you feel when I'm my brother, I know he went on no dumb-ass shit, like no stupid shit. But he's from a little-ass city up there, too. So it's like so easy for the cops to just zero in on what him and his team got going on.
Starting point is 00:46:36 Because of shit, everything right there. Yeah. I'm all right. That. I don't know. I would rather he would, like, been in another. the city. You feel me? Not at home. I know a rapper who drove all the way up to Stockton
Starting point is 00:46:50 to get the street sign. He took the street sign off. He drove all the way back with it. I don't know. Oh, no. I don't know, man. I ain't see that. Oh, I see that. What they did? I don't know. I don't know. They're stealing the street sign.
Starting point is 00:47:04 That's like, what is they going to? You feel me? That's not. Nobody's going to know where they're at. Nobody's going to be able to get around anymore. They'll take a right on this street. Oh, so basically just the motherfuckers. You feel me? I mean, you got to bring, like, a, drill or a screwdriver or some shit to take the whole sign out?
Starting point is 00:47:19 Is it ever that deep? And then what time did you go and take the sign off? I'm not wondering that. Like, come on, man. But no, I don't know. It'd be like, I don't know. I come from a different club, but we're going to do it. Let's just kill each other.
Starting point is 00:47:33 You know what I'm saying? Like, what do we plan for? It ain't, the only end to this is somebody dies. Let's kill each other. Yeah. Taking the street sign is just like, this is a brief, well, intermission. Let's kill each other. somebody need to like want to just die
Starting point is 00:47:47 let's just get it over it but that's not you feel like we don't want to encourage that low right no I'm not encouraging me I'm saying if it's it let's kill each other come on you're gonna like I don't know if it's deep enough to drive six hours to steal the street sign then let's kill it feels like that's where this is going on no
Starting point is 00:48:02 let's kill each other let's kill each other fuck out that's funny you're doing too much like come on man I don't I ain't got nothing to do with me but let's kill you guys Where's the little raw rap? Where are you at right now with it?
Starting point is 00:48:17 Independent. Independent. I just do what I want to. Right. That's just small. I mean, I dis, like, that's all I want. For real. Like, the whole point in signing the deal is to get to a point to what you don't need on.
Starting point is 00:48:29 But who were you signed to before? Who, before Gucci? Yeah. Oh, right, yeah. No, I was signing Guja. I was signing a Black noise. Right. Were you offended when Gucci dropped all his artists?
Starting point is 00:48:41 Hell not. You didn't make a favor. You were happy. I felt like a lot of people were. I ain't have, like, I have no obligations. I ain't had nothing left. I turned to anything I needed to do,
Starting point is 00:48:52 made all the money I need to make. So, like, me, it was going to happen for me anyway. Right. And when I did, it just was quicker. I got to go on to the one to nine. Instead of waiting six, seven, eight months to do it I want to. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:49:05 Do you ever feel like people are counting you out? Hell not. I see you as somebody who is very entrepreneurial, very like enterprising, like you're just gonna make something happen either way. Yeah, it ain't, like, it ain't know the choice. If I don't do it, we're gonna do it. You gotta do it.
Starting point is 00:49:23 You guys made much, well, you guys have made music together, but is it out? Because I didn't see it. Yeah, I didn't see any when I was looking. First time, we're gonna drop this video, though. It gotta be a video, you gotta be on a video. Yeah. That's your video. You probably do.
Starting point is 00:49:38 Video. Drop that shit, though. Like, stop holding this shit. Yeah, drop that shit. we're gonna go to studio night trying to make like five songs
Starting point is 00:49:47 pick for one of them right no that's fine for sure um okay and in terms of like your solo career
Starting point is 00:49:55 and everything like you got project coming or anything that you're excited about I didn't actually check you out on Apple music
Starting point is 00:50:00 so I don't know what that's all looking like right now I'm just working right now trying to make most music I can oh okay well you dropped
Starting point is 00:50:09 the whole project this year huh yeah okay what was that in February. I'd just been tapped in on the, oh shit. So you, you three Osama and no savage are the big three, huh?
Starting point is 00:50:22 Damn, that's a big claim. That song title just came about while you guys recorded? Not necessarily. I think I just, did I just, I just gave that name. I just gave that name. So you don't actually say it in the song? I'm not necessarily. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:50:42 All right. You got any other moves coming up, though, that people need to know about? I just stay time keep dropping like I'm doing you're saying for sure well I appreciate
Starting point is 00:50:55 y'all coming up I'm free Osama I'm gonna figure out why he got locked up pretty soon y'all just keeping this a little low key it must be bad
Starting point is 00:51:06 if you guys want to keep it secret that bad I just ain't ain't been to the talk nah facts I'm gonna hit you up when I'm out there too you definitely got hit me
Starting point is 00:51:15 you got to tap in You gotta give me a tour, man. You gotta give a tour, because I'm gonna really show you how DC is. Let me know you go out there. Yeah? You just be staying out there too or no? You just pull up?
Starting point is 00:51:25 Yeah, I'm gonna pull up. Yeah, yeah. Show you how DC really is. I'm so glad that I didn't do this like a month or two ago because it was going to be way too cold. And as time goes by, it slowly getting warmer. It's more. It should be when spring hit.
Starting point is 00:51:38 It's been like 20, 21st. April, some shit like that? Nah, it's this month, spring coming. I feel like DC in the summer has got to be when it's a real vibe. Yeah. You'd be cracking the fire hydrants open and playing in the streets and shit? That's more a New York thing.
Starting point is 00:51:53 I was younger. I was younger. I was sure. I don't remember the last time I seen it. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, that was such a big deal in New York, too, but I don't feel like they do that in New York
Starting point is 00:52:04 anymore either. I feel like they figured out how to make the fire hydrant so you couldn't crack them open. I don't know. Or they just, they like arrest you and give you a fine and shit. I hope they don't arrest you for some bullshit like that. How are you going to know who did
Starting point is 00:52:16 by the time you get there? Yeah, cameras everywhere. Cameras is everywhere. Lock your eyes. That's another thing, too. We got camera. Yeah, it's the downside that you can get away with that. You just do all kinds of crazy shit.
Starting point is 00:52:27 I mean... Actually, no, the cops are, like, the biggest dickheads ever down south, I feel like. Nah, see, for real, they, like, I don't know. Me, staying out here, they, they, they're f*** up. They f*** up. Like, you can't even sneeze while they drive there. And hop, I swam, you know. I just know that.
Starting point is 00:52:45 Like in Florida is probably like the most offended I ever been by the way a cop is treating me. What the fuck they do? Just talk to you like you're the biggest piece of shit ever. Just like... And they know you can't do shit. Yeah. You swing on there. They all police like that, like they all cocky because they know...
Starting point is 00:53:03 What are you going to... You're going to hit them? I feel like in L.A., I don't know. I just got a different vibe from the cops where they've been like properly trained to try to like de-escalate situations and I see the way they act. I don't see how they act. Bank members and shit where it's kind of like, oh, all right. They're like, they're trying to de-escalate the situation
Starting point is 00:53:19 and make shit a little bit more true. I've been in a project. They do not de-escalation. No? Maybe there's a camera out or a white vlogger. No, I'm talking about, like, every day, everyday life. Yeah, I do you. Every day, every day, just, every day, just, I feel like when I interview L.A.
Starting point is 00:53:34 rappers, I don't hear them complain about the cops that much, so it kind of makes me feel. But I'm from, I'm from, I'm different. Our police, they, they be on bullshit. They type, like, drive by listening to music and shit. Oh, really? You feel me? Like, they childish your fuck. That's foul.
Starting point is 00:53:46 They police ain't playing no game. That's foul. They took my brother to jail listen to EST Flo. Like the whole ride. My biggest song. Like, ain't this your brother?
Starting point is 00:53:57 Like, they'll be tripping. That's crazy. Shit, all right. Well, uh, free three, right? Is that good? They call them three, right? I keep calling them Osama, but I feel like people call them three.
Starting point is 00:54:12 People call them, they be three. Okay. Three or something. I was trying to fit in here. All right. Shout out to y'all. Appreciate you for having me on this.
Starting point is 00:54:22 D.C. up next? Hell yeah. Next. Now. Right now. Yeah. Deung Dizzy. Little Rye.
Starting point is 00:54:30 D.C. transplant. You're too young. Probably you don't remember that when Hudrich Pablo won. I feel like he made D.C. his second home for a while there. I know what you're talking about what? Who? Lord dude. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:43 Yeah. Yeah. Kind of like went down there. and like picked up a different style and all that shit he's about to get out he just did five years i saying that shit he get out what in like october i seen that yeah yeah yeah they got them on like all kinds of crazy racketeering and shit i don't know i'm saying that it's really shit but uh yeah free free pablo all right young dizzy little rye appreciate y'all for pulling up much love starburst gang we got a new gang no jumper coolest podcast i like comment subscribe

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